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 https://archive.is/20260627000715/https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15933083/Harry-Meghans-Megxit-deal-ALISON-BOSHOFF-Sussexes-agreed-return-UK.html

I'm not understanding a whole lot of things here.

They want to visit ... blah blah blah ... won't be leaked ... blah blah blah ... he's changed, he's now grown up?  Wait, what?  Where's he been all these years?  and why do we need to be told he's changed without a how?  This is according to some Anonymous Source (AS from now on -technically there looks like  more than one)?  But Haz had years of practice of not behaving like an adult when most people consider someone an adult.  The people I know who can make that kind of level of reversal tend to be people who have joined AA and NA.  Known track levels of support from people who have walked that same path.  What support does he now have that he did not before?

Reviewing things historically, they left after being told they could not have half in/half out by the Queen.  Well a sign of maturity is about being able to handle disappointments and moving on without appearing to be acting out.  (my kids fill in my mantra: we don't always get what we want so figure out how to work towards it)

Coming back and doing the fun parts of being being the British Royal Family but going back to the US for commercialization opportunities - how is that different than half in, half out?  That's still leaving all the hard work of representing the Firm on those who live there year round.  (according to my kids, this is eating dessert as your meal instead of as you get dessert as a reward after you finished your veggies).  

(and ... did you notice?  the claim is that neither adult will do anything commercial on their trips.  But what about the kids?  Aren't we seeing them begin to step up, show as helping/ working up to increasing  support of the various ventures - especially the food/cook stuff?  A curated (meaning highly edited from certain angles) is not the same as the Wales kids who are learning how to work/live the lives of service to the Crown.)

AS also talks about how somewhere, some people in the UK do not have an issue with being "semi-royal".  Really?  I really don't remember much about the various public polls but I thought I remember it as they both were not particularly liked by the public.  As in really low numbers.  So, let's think this through logically, how does low numbers transfer into a majority of we have no problem with him doing X, Y Z in our country so the country is cool with this?  

And, there isn't anything in there really from AS about what she is/plans to do to try to change opinion of her.  The public or ... the family.  That hazy details is exactly one of the problems of a lot of their ventures.  

The article moves into this is really about reversing (oh, excuse me) getting past Sandringham's result and side steps it into hopeful about a different answer now that the main No Sayer is not longer around by dancing around it with a label of toxic.

AS ends with this lovely image of how the brothers can still love, care for each other and that there is some hope somewhere of them all playing happy family but that "... the wives may have to grit their teeth."  Really?  That comes off as a tad smug/patting Catherine's head while telling her that her feelings towards it all are inconsequential to the thought that the two brothers might become close again.  (actually both wives kind of)

If we back up closer to the start, notice that because if we get this, and then that and then that, we have a really wonderful start to rethaw and restore all to before the flouncing off to Canada life.  What is this?  some kind of magic spell to undo years of various accusations, curious actions and so on.

How is that possible? I mean, let's be realistic after all that has come out of the Duo.  That kind of thinking reminds me of the only episode of Mork and Mindy episode I ever watched which had Mork saying suddenly mean things to Mindy because he thought that's how you treat people.  A simple I'm sorry is enough and can just undo everything ugly which just preceded it.

Besides, that whole elaborate plan to thaw or repair the relationships between people needs to have the total cooperation from the other side.  

Swivel to look at any response from the Palace or the King.  Crickets.  They don't confirm or deny a single statement.  Never explain.  That is power.  That is the power of gray rocking.  So what will happen, will happen.  And, then we and the rest of the world will know.





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Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Re your comment in the last post
'It this hasn't already been confirmed, this must be firm evidence that Ravec said `No'. Will there be another law suit?'
It now seems a certainty that Raved won't allow police protection: 'However, the family trip now appears uncertain after the government declined his request for police protection outside royal residences.' (Guardian). Harry has already lost two court cases re his police protection, he'd be foolish to try again. You know the definition of madness.
The decision is taken but the Home office, as far as I know so Charles can't help.
I knew it! I wish I'd said so yesterday that i thought they'd left any mention of `lack of security ' until the last minute, so they could blame someone else.
He's known for ages that he can't buy police protection and that it's only granted when the police themselves deem there to be a risk.

Nasty, lowdown, lyin' snake -belly schemers that they are.
I've just seen there was an update about Princess of Wales from KP - encouraging news. She's just done a serious physical challenge - the Three Peaks (ascent of Yr Wyddfa/Snowdon, Scafell Pike and Ben Nevis within 24hours) to highlight the challenges that cancer poses to one's body.

Serious respect to her.
It just gets better and better:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydwgy7125o
Royal household apparently saying that this is the first they'd heard of H & family's intended visit.
Maneki Neko said…
Harry doesn't seem to realise that reconciliation is a two way street, as is building bridges. The other party has to be willing to accept an apology and agree to bridges being built. Charles might be willing, and this is understandable as Harry is his son, but there should be conditions and first of all, a sincere apology from him & wifey. I can't see * apologising for anything. Apparently, he's hoping the children will meet uncle Will and auntie Catherine and the cousins. I can't see that either.

I know the Harkles are going to the UK for Invictus but this has nothing to do with * - she should remain in the shadows, which I know is not possible for her - and then, or before, they could visit Charles without announcing it to the public weeks in advance.

I must say I don't understand how the duo free to flog jam/spread and dried flowers when in the US and 'treated as cherished [?] members of the RF when in the UK is any different from from the current situation. Actually, Harry doesn't flog anything, it's Meg, and she should do it using her maiden name, not her royal title or anything royal adjacent . This would be a lot less objectionable.

I don't personally agree some that people in the UK don't have an issue with the duo being "semi-royal". Judging by the comments in the DM, they do have an issue with it and are not keen to see Harry, even less *.

Maneki Neko said…
Definitely. These are the three highest mountains in the UK.
@maneki neko
The Grauniad inevitably sees it as the `rug being pulled from beneath their feet. Chris Shipp involved,.
So the very mean daddy has not forced the state to pay Harry's blue lights and cool gun men to satisfy his vacuous pride and he will not let the evil daddy to see his "children".

We are again in the "they won't come" situation and we start the waiting time for "they will come" situation.

Has there ever been more waste of space needless oxygen consumption guy than Harry?

Shauna of the Vintage Read Show called the house of Windsor under king Charles a dysfunctional family reality show and there is some truth in it. He has no power over his relations no authority like The Queen Elizabeth had. He had his short moment in the USA but after that just strange mess. Papers tell us that more than anything he wants Harry and the children. If that is so he is the king, he can invite Harry, can't he? Privately? Well Harry comes with the kids if his father promises him some money, there is no need to moan to the courtiers "I want to see my son, I want to see my son" again and again. Or maybe he does not want to see Harry? Who knows?

Maneki Neko said…
There seems to be conflicting information re the duo and their usual will they/won't they is getting tiresome, in fact this is the word in this DM headline 'Prince Harry has a mountain to climb to fix PR own goal as security row overshadows UK trip: No one knows who is coming, Palace accommodation offer remains 'not accepted'... and patience is pushed to its limits by 'tiresome' psychodrama'
This sums it up accurately 'As one familiar with the situation says: 'For the sake of family harmony the Palace would have been perfectly happy with a peaceful and low-key visit. Yet, once again, they have turned it into a soap opera. It's tiresome.'' Not just the Palace, but the entire population of the UK.
Maneki Neko said…
I saw that today, I was just checking to see if Ravec had refused police protection and this came up in the search. I'm surprised the Grauniad even mentions the duo.

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