Skip to main content

There's something about Archie


It was about a month ago that the birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor was announced in a rather strange fashion, and as of this writing, the public has seen only one photo of the child's face.

This is unusual in itself - most new parents, particularly those who love social media, err on the side of too many pictures of their newborn instead of too few.

But there are several other odd aspects about the new baby, or at least what we've been told about him.

The other Archie

First of all, Archie's name is unusual for a Royal, and makes an unfortunate historical reference.

There has only been one Duke of Sussex before Harry, a man who also married an older woman against his family's wishes. The marriage was not successful, in part because the Duke's wife was in love with another man - named Archie. In fact, Archie was probably the real father of the Duke's children.

(Here's a Daily Mail piece from 2018 about Archibald Hamilton; here's a separate piece from a more reliable source plus one from the UK National Archive).

Names are important to the Royals

The two Archies are an odd coincidence, particularly since the Royal Family is so particular about first names and whom they pay tribute to.

Prince Harry's full name, for example, is Henry Charles Albert David - Charles for his father, Albert for his great-grandfather ("Bertie", aka George VI), and David as a tribute to the patron saint of Wales, since his father was Prince of Wales at the time of his birth.

Princess Charlotte's full name is Charlotte Diana Elizabeth, including tributes to both her grandmother and great-grandmother; Charlotte is also the feminine version of Charles.

Even Zara Tindall, who has perhaps the least formal first name in the Royal Family, is Zara Anne Elizabeth Tindall, after her mother and grandmother. Her daughter is Lea Elizabeth Tindall.

But Archie is only Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. Didn't anyone want a tribute? Why did Harry only reference himself with the weak pun "Harry's son"?

And didn't anyone think that given the earlier Archie's relationship to the earlier Duke of Sussex, the name Archie might be a slightly tasteless choice?  If we know about the other Archie, I'm sure the Royals do too.

In addition, the baby has no title, in a family where titles mean a lot.

Royal jokes

There have been a number of rather unfortunate coincidences since Meghan and Harry's marriage was announced, including scheduling the wedding date on the date when Anne Boyeln had her head cut off and sending a car to pick up the bride that had once ferried Wallis Simpson, the last divorced American to marry into the Royal Family, to her husband's funeral.

The choice of the name Sussex was also interesting, given that there had only been that one previous Duke of Sussex, and he was also a redhead, far down the line of succession, with a controversial marriage to an older woman who had enjoyed numerous other partners.

Granting the small, undistinguished Frogmore Cottage to Harry and Meghan as a grace-and-favor home (they do not own it, as William and Kate own Anmer Hall) could also be seen as a sly dig, since the home has primarily served as staff quarters and was the home of Queen Victoria's controversial Indian Muslim teacher, the Munshi, who was widely disliked by the other Royals.

It also looks out on a graveyard where Wallis Simpson is buried.

And now Archie is the name of their child. Somebody in the Royal inner circles has a cruel wit when it comes to the Sussexes.

It sounds a bit like Philip or Anne, or perhaps even former PR maven Sophie Wessex, who has become a devotee of royal history since joining the family. It could also be a clever staff member like Lord Geidt.

Whoever it is, they have clearly been able to get the Queen on board; the names of Royal children generally need her approval.

Some conspiracy theories

The strange appearance of the baby in its sole TV appearance - it never fidgeted or blinked or had any movement whatsoever - has some conspiracy theorists suggesting that Harry might have been holding a Realborn doll. 

These highly realistic dolls were originally designed as therapy instruments for parents who had lost their children to stillbirth or miscarriages, but are now a popular collector's item. Online sleuths have suggested that "Baby Darren" may have played the role of Archie in the TV appearance.

Others noted that Baby Archie's eyebrows and ears were carefully covered for the TV appearance, so it would be easy to switch in another baby without questions about identifying marks. 

This corresponds to a theory that perhaps a surrogate baby had been lined up for delivery in May but something went wrong, and that the Sussexes are currently casting a mixed-race newborn to play the part of Archie.

Sound absurd? Yeah, it does. 

Is it more absurd than the idea of the 7th in line to the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and other Realms and Territories and Defender of the Faith being named "Archie"? 

Good question. 

Archie's visitors

The press has assured the public that Archie has received a steady stream of visitors, beginning with Princess Diana's sister Lady Jane Fellowes (who gave a reading at the Sussex wedding) and followed by Charles and Camilla, Will and Kate, and Duchess of Sussex's make up artist Daniel Martin and her friends Jessica Mulroney, Serena Williams, and Priyanka Chopra. (Priyanka, whose career is thriving at the moment without the Meghan connection, later denied the story and said she had never met Archie.)

It's quite impressive that none of these people photographed themselves with the baby, or the mother and baby together, to share on their active social media accounts.

One could argue that this is because the Duke and Duchess want privacy; but in that case, why bother to announce the baby visitors at all? 

And there is the additional complication that no one has been seen coming or going from Frogmore Cottage, where the Sussexes' supposedly live. 

More strange occurrences

Wherever they actually live, the Sussexes' life is never dull.

Within the past week, there were press reports that Archie's nanny had already resigned, after two weeks on the job. In addition, Heather Wong, Harry's sole remaining staff member from before his marriage, is also reportedly seeking new employment.

In the meantime, Meg continues to run the Sussex's Instagram feed, apparently without a copy-editor. Typos are frequent, and last week instead of tagging her own patronage, The National Theatre, in a post, she managed to tag Australia's national theater.

Another ham-handed Instagram post, this one for Pride month, linked to 8 US-based LGBTQ+ organizations and only three UK ones.

Harry, meanwhile, has been particularly busy with Royal duties, despite the initial suggestion that he would take paternity leave after the baby's birth.

In addition to numerous events with the Queen (Is she trying to separate him publicly from Meghan? Or is he trying to play nice with the monarch to get a bigger house?) he has also appeared in the Netherlands and at a polo match in Rome.

After the polo match ended early Friday, he chose to stay an extra night in Italy, not returning home to his wife and newborn until late Saturday afternoon.

Meg and the Trumps

Finally, Meg and Donald Trump - certainly two of the most controversial Americans on the worldwide stage - had a minor beef after Trump called Meghan "nasty" in response to Meg's comments calling Trump divisive.

Meg could be called nasty for so many other reasons (after all, we haven't seen the notorious salad-tossing porn tape yet, if it exists) but she can hardly be called an opponent of the Trump family. 

She interviewed Ivanka for her blog the Tig, calling her "staggeringly beautiful, no question, but so incredibly savvy and intelligent" and was reportedly merching Ivanka Trump products as late as 2018, well after Ivanka's father's political views were well known.

What a strange story this is. 










Comments

Amzz Naylor said…
If people thought there was a whole lot of strange before the baby arrived, then this whole saga since the so called birth has been even stranger and I didn't think that was possible after the questionable pregnancy. I'm quite glad that priyanka put out a tweet to say that she hadn't been to see them. Does make you wonder if it was a fluff piece released by her pr team? If so then they are fools.
Could be extremely interesting when and if he is required to have a christening, will they want their privacy and not release any pics then?
Now! said…
The Christening will be interesting, since the baby is not officially in the line of succession until he is baptized, since all potential monarchs must be members of the Church of England.

If Archie is not biologically Harry's son, a good way to divert the question about whether he belongs in the line of succession would be to baptize him in a different church, or give him some kind of alternate ceremony more in line with Meghan's "spirituality."
Paja said…
She has no spirituality. Maybe she is more interested in something so called like this and practiced by Marina Abramovic, but there is not a piece of Christian faith in her.
Wut said…
Another strange coincidence is that Kate's gradmother (maternal) birth surname was Harrison. Added to the fact George was in the media as using Archie as a name in public. There are just a bunch of seriously weird coincidences with this Sussex crew.
Now! said…
I hadn't heard about Kate's grandma, but I did hear the George story, which came out several months before the Sussex birth.

I noticed today that the Daily Mail ran a story about how George likes to meet the Waitrose grocery delivery truck and carry in groceries.

Now that it's public, I suppose he won't be able to any more - too easy for a bad guy to conceal something in the groceries - or the security guys will have to vet the groceries first. Tough being a king in training.
Charlie said…
Lmao all of these theories. I kinda like some conspiracy theories, they are really creative, but people, who are theorised about, aren't smart, so I don't believe in any of them. Life may be tough, but it's simple. So I don't think they cast a new baby, or even it is a doll.

Something is definitely happens behind close doors, I think that this marriage is highly pragmatic, especially for Harry, he wants his piece of fame, right now, when he's not too old, nor too young, perfect age, or he'd end like Prince Andrew. But who said that Harry was smart, doing all of this dumb moves.

Let's say this my conspiracy theory, and it explains overplayed public performance, with a weird "performative" privacy talks and acts, and total coldness behind the doors, like Harry spends more time away from his "lovely" wife and his! newborn! son, Frogmore cottage emptiness and etc.

Other royals definitely have a lot of fun, Harry thought he'd overplay his family, but he only overplayed himself, fool.
The Wiz said…
There's more than just a slight resemblance between Baby Archie and Baby Darren. This is getting damned interesting...
OzManda said…
I find the lack of Archie or Megs in the media really interesting - Like everyone else i dont buy for a minute her need for "privacy". She would have her bath times televised if it will benefit her. I do also note there are more anti Meg stories out there - the latest being her tryuing to get on with a musician before she "met" harry.

What is curious is if this is just a case of that - big whoop, no one expects her to have been a nun. But there has to be a reason why these things are gradually coming out. Added to that in myt thinking in order to get her out, the BRF will need to orchestrate a media campaign that has a dual purpose - 1) destroy her reputation while also 2) Not damaging Harry's.

Also for someone who is a "Besotted new dad" he seems to be spending a lot of time going to official events without her.

Hope my rambling makes sense :)
Aus Unknown said…
Why are you laughing? It's unedifying for the BRF to become a global laughing stock ... my theory is that she's creating all this deception for attention - a very disturbed woman, evidenced by her past conduct which is on the record.
Aus Unknown said…
I don't believe that story because it's too risky for George to be carrying in groceries. He could get hurt and the delivery drivers could be liable. I wouldn't worry though - no one can get near the house. He's not at risk there.
Aus Unknown said…
Just to add, I take your point that the protagonists aren't 'smart', but there is a vast difference between being intellectual and having rat cunning, Meg has the latter. She's a well worn actress who was on a the make for years, she played the Windsors like the fools they are.
Aus Unknown said…
Agree, something to going on, but I always suspected this is how they would do it. They want her gone and are trying to separate Harry from her manipulation. I read elsewhere that it was to "deprogram" him. That makes sense. As my mother would say in general, "he needs to get out of her clutches".

Yeah, she's a fame whore, not interested in privacy. I think they have her on lockdown, as in, no conspiracy, but just told her that for the sake of image, she needs to bond with her newborn. They don't believe in that, of course, but it was a convenient excuse to get her out of the family's way.
KnitWit said…
Agreed. I thought the doll theory was bizarre until I saw baby Darren. Creepy and Crazy.
Anonymous said…
I think there is a real baby and all this speculation should end. It may be delivered by a surrogate but I am convinced that it has Markle genes.
d.c. said…
Er, I can't tell if my previous comment disappeared into the ether, or if it's just awaiting approval... I don't want to be a nuisance by repeating myself... errr, to sum up: Thank YOU!!! for your posts, especially this one.

To continue: I was wondering if the emerald tiara Markle wanted for her wedding ended up being the one that Eugenie wore several months later for her wedding (and my guess was, if this was the case, that the Queen likely had promised it or at least intended it for Eugenie ages ago, given the emerald brings out the color of Eugenie's eyes ).

If it was the same tiara, this may explain Markle's unexpected attention-grabbing baby-announcement at the wedding. I don't know. I can't find any mention of whether or not it was indeed the same tiara. Thoughts?
d.c. said…
(ah, i can see that my prior comment did indeed disappear into the ether, so i shall repeat a little bit more:

I eagerly await your posts, and truly appreciate that you ground us in clearly observable/verifiable facts, to support rational conclusions, in the sea of gas-lighting that exists elsewhere.

And I agree, that someone in the BRF is having a go at the Markles, given the sheer number of overwhelming coincidences: Anne Boleyn, Frogmore Cottage (its view and its history), the bridal car, the name Archie (given its history), etc.

And yeah, what is the deal with all the disappearing staff. Without Heather Wong, who is left? How can this couple lose so many? It's really unheard of... I guess that could be another post, listing off all the staff they've lost (and all the ones who chose to stay with the Cambridges, after the split).

Anyway, THANK YOU for your posts. Please continue.)
Hikari said…
To my knowledge, yes, the emerald tiara under dispute was the same one which Eugenie wore. Since she and Jack were forced to push back their wedding by 5 months to accommodate Harry's precedence for the date of his choosing, she would have had her dress already selected and had requested the tiara even prior to Markle's engagement. There is no particular reason for MM to have selected that tiara--indeed it shouldn't have even been available for her to view if Eugenie had already requested it--other than its cachet was increased by being desired by another bride. A bride whom MM no doubt felt that she was entitled to pull rank upon. The emerald tiara would not have even been suitable for Meg's dress; the one chosen for her was much more appropriate. I've noted that MM favors green a lot--incidentally, so does the Duchess of Cambridge. Catherine looks fabulous in green. Green does not suit Meghan at all in my opinion, but that does not dissuade her from wearing it, especially if it happens to be another royal(s)' favorite color. We cannot know precisely what was going through MM's mind at Eugenie's wedding, but the extremely premature baby announcement to steal the bride's thunder was calculated, I believe, as MM's revenge for being thwarted with the tiara.
Now! said…
Why do you say that, Sonia? Not saying you're wrong - just want to hear your reasoning.

I think there is a better chance that a baby would have Harry genes than Markle genes. Egg harvesting is a tricky matter. Sperm harvesting, not so much.
d.c. said…
I agree with you, HIkari. That shade of green flatters both Eugenie and Kate, but doesn't particularly work well for Sparkles. Yeah, that early baby announcement as revenge for the tiara makes the most sense.
I wonder what Harry thinks of all this (re: tiara going to Eugenie).
50 and counting said…
Young Archie will get his title when Grandpa Chuck becomes King. The Cambridge children only have titles by special decree. Something to do with the Monarch's children and Grandchildren having titles but not greats.

Hikari said…
If Harry has an opinion over this piece of jewelry (most guys struggle to understand why jewelry is so important to women--though H. did craft a stunning engagement ring) that differs from the Queen's, he'd be wise to stifle it forever. Granted, this was his first time getting married and he may not have known all the ins and outs of the Queen's jewelry collection; he's a guy, and I'd hardly have expected him to pore over the 'Rules of Precedence for the Crown Jewels' dossier. I imagine all the female royals have. Once the Queen had decreed that this emerald tiara was not available to Meghan, that should have been that. End of. The reason is immaterial; these are Her Maj's tiaras to dispense as she wishes, or not. That smokescreen about the 'Russian provenance' was probably to camouflage the true reason: it was being reserved for Eugenie, but it is common practice to withhold information about what pieces of the collection royal brides will be wearing. The Russian imperial family were cousins to the British Royal Family so 'provenance' was a weak blind . . though with tensions running high between the U.S. and Russia over alleged election tampering, I thought at the time that was why that excuse was used--that ER did not want to appear needlessly provocative of a delicate diplomatic situation. Then Eugenie appeared on her wedding day wearing it, and I said "Aha." I imagine Harry was a bit torn, because he and William have always been very close to their York cousins, being of similar ages. If Harry really did roar to his grandmother, the Queen, "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!", that is gobsmackingly reckless behavior that perhaps indicates a need for mood-smoothing medication on his part. The answer he received in reply to that childish display was the one both he and his wife-to-be deserved. *Everything* they have and are is because of the grace and favor of the sovereign. Meg didn't have to opt into this system--we Americans separated from it long ago to claim our autonomy--but having done so, she now has to play by their rules, or she can get out. She never should have gotten in.
Hikari said…
I didn't know that about the wedding car. How droll. Elizabeth would have known, surely, Philip, too. Arranging for that car sounds very like his sense of humor. I did not realize until after the fact that their wedding day was the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's beheading (for treasonous *adultery*, and only 3 years after her *lavish coronation*) This would constitute an insider Palace joke if Harry was told this was the date they *had* to choose. If he picked it himself, it was probably a random coincidence because Hazza does not strike me as up on all the arcane ancient history of his forebears. Frogmore Cottage is likewise a regal joke. Queen Victoria couldn't stand the place, complaining of its infestations of . .well, frogs, that made a terrible racket in the summer. Incidentally, Frogmore was the house in which Uncle Dickie Mountbatten was born in, in 1901. Wonder what he'd make of the state of affairs of his old home now?

The name "Archie" is a stumper. I had expected a non-traditional name choice from this couple, in the first name anyway . .but I expected some homages to relatives in the other names. Harry is allegedly so very close to the Duke of Edinburgh but both Philip and Charles were shunned. Archie may be one of the fastest rising male baby names in England, but over here in America, it only summons up images of 'Archie Bunker', everybody's favorite working-class white bigot from Queens, or Archie Andrews, the comic book world's most famous ginger. I can't for the life of me imagine Meghan approving 'Archie' for the first one alone. Unless, as with Eugenie's tiara, she stole a name which had already been appropriated by someone else in the family--namely, George, as a nickname for himself. Frankly, that sounds like something MM is totally capable of, even if she hated the name Archie, just as a roundabout dig at Catherine's family. Harry may have gone to school with some Archies and had good associations with the name, but I still can't believe that after 9+ months to discuss names, *this* is what they came up with.

Frankly the name selection bolsters my gut feeling that this name was never intended for a real child. It has the (faux) ring of a sort of finger-in-the-eye insider joke. The parents (or 'parents') as the case may be would have to be the architects of this one . . because how could someone else bent on humiliating them with the Archie reference *force* them to select this name for their baby? Unless someone Harry trusted (Philip? Again, this sounds so like him) put the bug in his ear that 'Archie' would be a grand name for a little fellow, and H., being ignorant of his own family history had no clue it was an insult? It's a head-scratcher, all right.
Aus Unknown said…
@NUTTY: This, 100%.
Aus Unknown said…
She's on the way out, must be seething with rage that she missed the state banquet ... the Queen is sending a message to her - that she is not important at the top end and will never be Kate's equal.
Fifi LaRue said…
The comment about the wedding being on the day of Anne Boleyns' beheading is a very interesting coincidence. I do believe that the BRF employs a Royal Astrologer to set the dates for important events. For instance the May wedding date was within the arc of a New Moon in Cancer, the sign of family and home. New Moon, new beginnings. I don't know about Eugenie's October wedding date.
Anonymous said…
It's because the Archie's nose resembles Tom Markle's nose. Also Meghan's face was puffy for few months after marriage and the low key visit to Toronto suggest she was doing egg harvesting.
Aus Unknown said…
Either Archie has jaundice or he is mixed race, I don't believe they would colour his skin .... I can't see any resemblance to the Markle nose or features at this point. I don't think he resembles that doll, either. The question is, is it Harry's DNA? Rumours abound that Harry is infertile, but maybe with a little help from Assisted Reproductive Techniques, he can father children ... but then, why is he absent so often from home?
Hikari said…
Since I read Sonia's comment about Archie's nose looking like Meg's dad's nose, now I can't unsee it! It does! Though that may be wishful thinking. A newborn's features are amorphous and likely to change over time. Most newborns have similar features at first. I thought on first sight that Archie looked incredibly fair to be 1/4 African-American, even given that his father is so extremely pale. But in the close-up of his face with Meg's hand, their skin tones seem to match. Again, babies' skin tones and eye colors often change over the first several months, too. When they presented Archie, over those incredibly awkward 3 minutes, with no sign of life from this baby, I got a creeping sensation of horror that he might not be real. And yet, I've looked hard at "Darren" and I don't think it looks like Archie, either. The mouth position is wrong, and the complexion is different. "Darren" is incredibly realistic looking, but the ruse of presenting a plastic baby to Her Majesty may have been one scam too far, even for Meg. I don't recall Meghan's face being puffy early in her marriage, or any other time until possibly the last month we saw her. Her face did look rounder in a few of the latest outfits, but I chalked it up to unflattering styles. That white pillbox hat coupled with a reflective white dress at the Commonwealth Day service would likely make any woman's face look round. For Harry's sake (not to mention this new life that has been brought into the world . .?? . .) I want this presentation of 'happy family' to be real and not an elaborate hoax, but everything surrounding this pregnancy and baby is so very, very odd. If everything is legit and this is really a happy young couple who just had their first baby . .why all the subterfuge? Why are stories being released about Harry's family and Meghan's Hollywood friends streaming into Frogmore to see Archie when this cannot possibly be true? Priyanka Chopra has flat-out denied meeting Archie--seeing as I don't think she's had any face time with MM since Meg's wedding. That casts into dispute all the other promoted stories of all the members of the Royal family coming to see Archie, too. Priyanka has no reason to deny something that's true. Surely a visit to Windsor to see her good friend's new baby would be something she couldn't wait to be made known. I do believe that Meg's celeb friends have been sending luxe baby gifts, but the question remains . . where are these gifts arriving and is there an actual recipient who will be using them?
QueenWhitby said…
The tiara Eugenie wore was reported as the Greville Emerald Tiara, the emerald tiara that Meghan had wanted to wear was reported as the Vladimir Tiara but the Queen refused to loan it as it’s provenance could not be established due to it’s Russian origin. Meghan had her heart set on the Vladimir tiara and Harry hit the roof at the refusal sparking the infamous “what Meghan wants, Meghan gets” comment. Speculation that the tiara was the cause of MM’s nastiness toward Eugenie at the wedding is off the mark I think, the (premature) baby announcement at the wedding was purely one-upmanship and a nasty swipe at the Yorks who had reportedly been less than welcoming towards MM joining the RF.
Hikari said…
Part II of the above. My comments were too long and had to be split. I really warm to this subject!

I can't come down definitively in either camp, but my gut tells me that if Harry had a new son at home (wherever that might currently be) with whom he was delighted, surely Her Maj wouldn't be working him so much as she has been in the weeks since Archie's (published) birth, had he requested more time off. Even if Archie arrived two weeks earlier than announced (again, why fudge that and pretend he's a newborn on May 8th when he may have actually arrived on Easter weekend? What difference does that make? Wouldn't have anything to do with one of the presumptive celebrity godfather's birthdays also being May 6th, would it?), and H. had been with Meg and the baby for those two weeks, surely he'd want a bit longer. Unless . . . nothing about the picture of happy families they are attempting to promote is remotely the truth. Even if Archie arrived via surrogate over Easter weekend, that fact could be acknowledged and nothing would have to be different otherwise about normal new family bonding time. By this point, a month on, with each of her babies, Catherine had released some photos taken at home. We've got one sliver of Archie's face and a Insta snap of some baby feet that do frankly look staged. So what might account for this maniacal campaign for 'privacy' and press blackout? I've had a few thoughts: 1. Archie was a trafficked baby . .or at least, an unofficial, possibly illegal adoption. 2. There was a surrogacy arrangement, and MM simulated her pregnancy, only to have things go sideways when the surrogate (who is the legal mother under British law) decided to keep the baby. Even if she willingly gave up the child as agreed, the biological parents (presumably H. and M.) must wait 42 days before applying for an adoption order through family court. A surrogacy agreement means nothing legally in the U.K. Essentially they would be the adoptive parents of their own biological issue since the birth mother by law is the surrogate. We are coming up on the 42 days pretty soon; maybe after that, we will be seeing more photos of Archie because they will actually have custody of him as perhaps? they do not now. Maybe they were able to borrow him for an hour for the photo call/meet with HMTQ. (Thanks to Nutty, from whom I got this info from earlier postings . . I think?) 3. Meghan did actually give birth, for all her bizarre Pregnancy Show shenanigans leading up to the blessed day, and her appearance at the photo call was real 'new mum post delivery', puffiness and all, complete with a white dress and a post-baby tummy that appeared to the observer to be rather . . .sideways, highly unusual. BUT it's not Harry's baby, nor was he conceived via surrogate using a donor, but he's rather the product of infidelity, which can be proven and that's why LG has the new mum under lock and key somewhere while the Palace builds a case for annulment application. Maybe? Because 4. Archie is the biological and birth child of Harry and Meghan, who was conceived a month or two after his parents' wedding entirely naturally and Meghan breezed through a geriatric first-time pregnancy in high heels thoughout and popped Archie out after a nominal 4-hour labor--and the ecstatic new parents, more deeply in love than ever, just want to be left alone to enjoy their new baby . . . well, it's seeming more and more like science fiction, isn't it? Were I a creative writing teacher and this story were submitted to me, I'd say "Go back to the drawing board, please. This scenario is so unrealistic, it just does not fly. Nobody will buy this!"

Nutty, thank you for your work in creating this community. Otherwise I might feel like I was losing my 'nut', as they say. So glad other sane people have the same wonderments I have, plus a few I hadn't thought of.
Hikari said…
Thank you for that amplification . . I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Her Maj owns more than one stunning emerald tiara. That opens up a few other questions, though.
1. *Why* could the provenance of the Vladimir tiara not be sufficiently established by now? Presumably it's been in the Crown jewels collection at minimum a century? A friend of mine is a true Anglophile, having English relatives and spending a lot of her childhood summers there. The history of the Royal family is one of her dedicated hobbies. She thinks it unlikely in the extreme that there could be pieces in the Crown collection that do not have extensive, exhaustive documentation regarding their provenance and every particular. There is no doubt a staff of courtiers whose full-time occupation it is to oversee the care and cataloging of this priceless national resource.
2. If the first were somehow quizzically true, then why would Meghan have ever been allowed to even view it or form the impression that it would be available to her? Rather than letting her view *everything* like her own personal Tiffany's catalog, a small selection of approved tiaras (perhaps 5 or 6) should have been shown to her and she told, "You can choose from these." 'What the eye does not see, the heart cannot grieve over', as the saying goes. I suppose there is some sort of online catalog that perhaps shows everything and MM helped herself to that and made a wish list.

In any event, regardless of the *reason* she was denied her first-choice tiara, it would have been classless and rude to do anything other than graciously accept the tiara she was given--a lovely one--as a privilege for her wedding day, and not a second-best anything.

I don't think MM needs any additional cause to be nasty, really. If anyone else appears to getting favorable attention, she seems threatened by that.
Aus Unknown said…
With respect, people see what they want to see ... it isn't an exact science. I don't see the Markle nose at all. Like you say, it's a bit too early to tell. Even full African-American babies look reasonably fair. It's the melanin that reacts with the sun to create the dark skin. That's why you could not make any distinction until he's older, but he looks a little "orange" (typical of jaundice).

Take David Bowie's daughter: she was born quite fair but turned darker as would be expected since her mother is African.
QueenWhitby said…
You have posed a very good point, the provenance of the Vladimir tiara is well established and I think there were other reasons that it was not available to MM in addition to current Russian diplomatic considerations. The Royal Jewel collection is well documented on the internet, and in catalogues - MM could have taken a shine to it without it ever being on offer, certainly it’s flashiness would be right up her alley and we know she displays an extraordinary sense of entitlement. My personal opinion is that the Vladimir piece is far too extravagant to be suitable for a bride (especially the bride of the sixth in line), it’s more like a crown than a tiara. It would have outshone any other tiara worn by any other royal bride at any other royal wedding which just would not do, so the Queen shut her down. The phrase “what Meghan wants, Meghan gets” makes me think it was NOT offered to her. Anyway, just my humble opinion as a long term anglophile.
Hikari said…
An extraordinary sense of entitlement is one of the markers for narcissism, along with an over-inflated sense of one's own importance and abilities. Based on these, I think our Meg is batting 3-3. She's made a cottage industry of armchair shrinks like us, and as much as we love discussing her motives, it can only be conjecture. However, I don't think the sense that there is something very, very off and unsettled in the house of Windsor these days, an unrest coinciding exactly with her entre into that enclave is all in our minds, either. Or that Meghan is undeserving of all of this negative press and is just the victim of racist, chauvinistic trolls. If she has been sweet, kind, easygoing, dedicated, courteous to her staff, deferential and eager to learn the ropes, it doesn't seem possible that such ill winds would be constantly swirling around her. There's always going to be online troglodytes or the occasional staffer with a grudge, but naysayers like that could be so easily marginalized as nutters if Meg had people around her genuinely singing her praises as a great addition to the family. Her staff would be loyal; William, of all people, closer to his brother than anyone, would have embraced her. She'd be building relationships within the family with other female royals. We would not be seeing so many staged, strained photos where MM is present, or hearing so many horror stories about what she's like as a boss. We might see her out and about enjoying family outings, not complete radio silence as though she's locked away in a tower.
People said horrible things about Catherine, too, at first. She was 'Waity Katie', scheming with her mother to trap William. She was lazy; no career, just hanging around waiting for a ring. Once she was part of the BRF, she didn't take on enough. She was even, incredibly, accused of faking her pregnancy with George, even though it had been two full years since her marriage. Catherine persevered and now has earned the respect of everyone, but even in the early, rockier days, we never heard tales of her abusing her staff or demanding ostentatious jewels and clothing. Whatever else Meghan wants to perpetrate about her feminist humanitarianism, those extravagant clothing expenditures do not lie. Will MM be able to rehabilitate her reputation like Kate has? Short answer: No, I don't think so. She's burnt too many bridges in her first year. Incessant drama is another mark of the narcissist.
hunter said…
Hi d.c. - this question has been answered on other blogs and short answer is no - not the same tiara - the one in question was reportedly declined due to its dubious Russian connections, they say it is a different one.
hunter said…
Only the Queen can approve baby names so that's how they could be "forced."
hunter said…
yesterday I saw proof that Meghan's tiara was a fake - she had it made herself? It is not an exact match with the former Queen Mary's crown.
hunter said…
Yeah it wasn't until about two months ago the goddamn British public suddenly loooooooovvveessss Kate. It's about damn time, she's stuck in it to win it through her behavior and treatment - really makes the disparity between Kate and Meghan visible. I'm happy for her because it's about time the public truly embraced her.

Camilla too, for that matter. They finally seem to appreciate her too.
Hikari said…
She approved "Archie", which is in itself quizzical. I think there's some reverse psychology at play here, myself, if the name Archie was somehow planted in Harry's mind as a great name and then approved by Her Majesty. Only Harry could answer if he is aware of the name's origin within his own family, and the rather black mark attaching to both the name 'Archie' and the Dukedom of Sussex.
If one of my proposed scenarios is true, and 'Archie' was sired by another man while being passed off (or attempted to be passed off) as his, then the moniker 'Archie' is historically appropriate. And it's not a compliment to either he or Meghan. It gets even more meta . . recall Hazza's seemingly jovial exchange with his wife in Morocco: "Wait, you're pregnant? . . .Are you sure it's mine?"

At the time, I went "Whoa." While jokes like this have been flying around barrooms for generations, if a man indeed had reason to suspect that he himself was the victim of such a deception, that would be too sensitive to joke about. Especially if he is a royal. And most especially if he is on an official tour and his remarks are being recorded and filmed for the world to see. The timing and circumstances of that 'joshing around' suddenly take on a sinister cast, don't they? As I recall, the room was full of children when he said it, making that joke even more tasteless and inappropriate. That's a joke friends at the pub bandy around--not the time and place and circumstances where Harry was when he said it.

I understand that prenatal paternity testing is possible. One wonders if Harry hadn't received some shocking news around that time and his upset slipped out as a (barely) coded jibe to his wife. Of course, we have no proof of anything of the sort. I just thought it was a really weird, squicky making comment from him.

The Queen can approve or deny a choice (Beatrice was supposed to be called 'Annabel' but the Queen put the kibosh on that because 'Annabel's' was the name of a very well-known gentleman's club in London.) So she can 'force' someone away from a name, but I doubt she ever forces anyone to 'choose' a name, or declares outright, "This child shall be called . . .End of." I can't think of a name she would be less likely to force anyone to call a child than Archie. There are tons of other wonderful names H. and M. could have chosen instead. If it turns out that the child's name just happens to be a sort of family in-joke, I'd call that a bonus. Not, alas, for the poor kid.
Hikari said…
Respectfully, I think it's been considerably longer than two months. She was disparaged when she was his girlfriend, for all that long decade. They put on a great wedding in 2011. Then, her first year was a little rocky with some wardrobe malfunctions (Sparkle may have shown us tags and dirty shoes and her bra and the outline of her underwear . .but Kate showed the world's press corps her bare bottom thanks to some impish wind in Australia. That's the grandma of all wardrobe malfunctions. She's learned and been impeccably turned out since, with weighted hems.) Before George was born, William was still on active duty with the helicopter service, and he was not required to do as many engagements. His new wife was at something of a loose end, often alone at their house in Norfolk. Where she did her own grocery shopping and walked the dog on the beach. I can't really fathom Meghan willingly doing her own grocery shopping now . . but Kate's profile was a lot lower when she was a newlywed. There was criticism that she should be working harder on royal duties--but I'm sure then, as now, she waited upon directives from the Queen, as is appropriate. She studied up on her new role and didn't want to put a foot wrong, erring on the side of caution. Turns out that was the better course to take in the end. Kate's in it for the long haul. Sparkle is going to be a colorful footnote in the family history. A short one. So my gut tells me.
Hikari said…
Harry was not invited to the state banquet, either, but I read today on Yahoo that he did attend a private lunch with HMTQ and the Trumps. I'm imagining Sparkle at home in sweatpants, wherever home is these days, chewing on her own heart. Catherine was resplendent. I believe it was the Spencer tiara she was wearing, so Her Maj didn't bust into the Crown jewelry cabinet, but it's a stunning tiara anyway. The guest list included the Cambridges, Chas and Camilla, Anne and her husband, Andrew, the Wessexes, the Duke and Duchess of Kent, the Glouchesters and Princess Alexandra. Quite a superannuated bunch of the Queen's cousins. They probably live for this stuff.
SwishyFishy said…
Meghan wanted to wear the Vladimir tiara. It's big and makes quite a statement. It's only worn by senior royals, such as the Queen and Princess Anne. You can Google it. It's connected to the Russian royal family and supposedly the Queen did not want it worn because of its unusual provenance. I think she just didn't want Meghan to wear it. It's wholly inappropriate for a bride, particularly one who is married to the 7th in line for the throne and a divorcee of dubious background.
SwishyFishy said…
This is the part I do not understand about this whole mess, Archie's lack of a title of some sort. I don't believe for a second that Meghan and Harry did not want their child to have a title. Meghan is all about appearances and self-puffery. The boy didn't even get a "Lord Archie" title, or the Earl of Dumbarton, which would have been his placeholder title until he inherited the title Duke of Sussex from his father. So I am wondering if it is because a surrogate was used. The Royals are very particularly about their children being "of the body." If this child was born of a surrogate, perhaps this is why they gave him nothing. And if this is the case, then he will not receive the title of "Prince" when Charles becomes king. I can't imagine how the Queen would have signed off on this name knowing he would become "Prince Archie" when she passed. It's ridiculous sounding, zero gravitas for the son of a prince/duke and grandson of a future king. None of this makes any sense.
SwishyFishy said…
Kate wore the Cambridge Lover's Knot Tiara, which was commissioned by Queen Mary in 1914 and loaned to Diana, and now Kate. Only women of the Spencer family are allowed to wear the Spencer tiara. As she is not a Spencer woman, Kate will never wear it and she doesn't need it anyway. She has access to the royal jewels, particularly when she rises in rank. The only other tiara Kate has been seen in is the Lotus Flower Tiara that Princess Margaret liked to wear. If Meghan is ever invited to a state banquet, it will be curious to see what tiara she is offered. I'm sure she is desperate to get her hands on one.
SwishyFishy said…
Kate and William were in Wales, living in a farmhouse in Angelsey I think, for the first few years of their marriage. William had to complete his helicopter training, so she acted like most military wives. I never had anything against her, but I did think she was work shy/kind of lazy. She never seemed to do much, other than work out. The rumor is that she would spend up to 5 hours a day on sports (e.g. tennis, jogging) and working out in a home gym. No wonder she is so thin. I also did not like when she snubbed the Irish Guards that one year. I come from a military family and that she took that duty so lightly and blew it off because she didn't feel like it (said she wanted to go home) was a huge error in my book. I think she's made a lot of strides to be more engaged with her work and position these past few years. Now if she'd just get rid of those god-awful, frumpy Erdem dresses, she's be perfect.
Thank you Nutty/Skippy/Enty for keeping me updated on this utter meshugas. It's kind of...really addictive.
Aus Unknown said…
THIS. Totally agree 100%, Swishy.
Aus Unknown said…
The Queen has a lot of powers at law, more than is appropriate to be discussed here, but she rarely exercises her prerogative.
Aus Unknown said…
It's more a matter of perception I suppose; that being the Queen issuing letters patent or not. Whatever happens after her reign is Charles' problem, not hers.
Aus Unknown said…
Meg will never be invited to a state banquet until perhaps after the Queen passes. Harry has only been to one. They are being sidelined. I suppose the reason why the Queen's children were present is because they are her children - not grandchildren - though Harry ranks higher in the succession. I'm trying to be diplomatic, but I guess to be honest, IMO the Queen just doesn't like Meghan and Harry is a casualty of that.
Aus Unknown said…
Both William and Kate were lazy, even Charles' stated that of his son when he was younger. They were pulled into line by the Queen. They have matured and are now both representing the Crown and Her Majesty with grace and dignity. I think William just eased into his birthright However, it won't save the monarchy once the Queen passes, IMO. The people who matter, those in the Commonwealth realms, don't want to support a common monarchy. Also, I don't care about Meg's motivations. I don't pretend to be some 'armchair psychologist'. I just base my opinions on facts and evidence in the public domain. And it's damning. @Swishy: I do agree with most of what you are saying.
People can make all the excuses that they want. I'm guessing they are not British. Kate didn't marry a normal man and it was not acceptable for them to be on the taxpayers' purse doing very little. They don't have that luxury, as was borne out. Kate can not be a "stay-at-home" mother. That she takes extensive maternity leave does not sit well with many British taxpayers. They have a lot of staff (essentially paid for by the public) - so those excuses don't wash.
Aus Unknown said…
@Hikari: it would have been too obvious for Harry to be invited to the state banquet and whilst the Queen is alive and reigning, it's not his future. That's why he was invited to lesser events. I'm not sure why he was present at all, to be honest. Isn't he supposed to be on paternity leave?

I thought Kate looked dull, I've seen her look better. She doesn't appear to enjoy these banquets. But I suppose she doesn't like to be surrounded by food she won't eat and of course, she has nothing to say of any consequence to people who are educated and work in real jobs. I'm not saying she's dumb, like Harry, but she's no intellectual and her intelligence was stunted from years of doing nothing but shopping and being at Will's beck and call.
Paja said…
I want to know one thing. What they will do when the surrogate decides that she won´t give the baby for an adoption? It´s British law, she can do it. She has 42 days to think about give the baby to them or don´t.
Now! said…
You are welcome! I am enjoying your input.
Now! said…
On the topic of UK State dinners, here's a CDAN comment posted by EmeraldCity, who in the past has appeared to have some inside knowledge:

QUOTE: "I would have been very surprised if Megs had turned up at the state dinner, it was almost 5years before Kate made an appearance at one and on average there are two a year so that would be about 8 she missed after her marriage. You have to prove yourself good at non committal small talk, keep your opinions to yourself and listen carefully to what your dinner companions are saying (there will be questions later).

"It is a diplomatic minefield so the palace makes sure that everyone understands the rules and can be trusted to stick to them before an invite is issued. It's basically mouth shut, ears open and act cluless for the younger royals.

"Harry himself has only been to one State Banquet for the Spanish King and Queen in 2017 and they sat him next to Rose Hanbury (you can't make this stuff up) and a British civil servant so he couldn't make an ass of himself and say the wrong thing. He obviously didn't distinguish himself at the last one so he too was left off the invite list as they probably couldn't trust him not to spout some of Meghan's self serving rubbish." /ENDQUOTE
hardyboys said…
Do you really think she tricked the queen and her family members including the public taxpayers that she had a baby of her own when she used a surrogate? I find it too hard to believe. I think she is doing the Michael Jackson thing where she is trying to appear as elusive and mysterious as possible to rev up as much publicity as she can for her next public appearance. She has figured out that too many appearances back fired. Now she is in FU mode and saying you are only going to get a slice of my time. I dont think shes locked up I think shes just so pissed off at the public for hating her shes going to go for the biggest bang at her next appearance. Shes also probably dieting and working out like a fiend. Although her stomach was sideways her face was very round and puffy.
Unknown said…
It has removable pearl pieces (originals) or emerald pieces (added from emeralds won at an auction by.... the duke and duchess of Cambridge (not the current ones, of course). Seems to me she wanted to show she was just as royal as William and Kate... I liked her for a hot second but there’s too much smoke and you know what they say about that.
OzManda said…
Re Kate: It was pretty much generally known that Kate and her parents planned to get William, enrolling in the same school, being there with him as much as possible - that is where a lot of the negative press came from. But since then she redeemed herself by committing to the role - my impression (and i could be wrong) is that while she is in a life of wealth and status, it is clear she is about the family and the realm - she has worked really hard to be a "worthy" consort to a future king.

In saying that - i think this is how both Kate and Wills have Meg's number - and the queen is no pushover either - we are talking about a woman who lived through a world war, handled being queen in a world that usually only accepted kings and navigated her way around the continual embarassments of the members of her family. Just my thoughts :)
Unknown said…
The tiara Meghan wanted was not the one Beatrice wore. They look very different. Yes, the Vladimir’s one (that Meghan wanted) has the choice of green dangles (the Cambridge emeralds, haha) or the original pearls. But the tiara Beatrice wore had permanent emeralds, not dangling. Agree with the rest.
Unknown said…
Or Eugenie. Got the two girls mixed up.
Aus Unknown said…
She was never pregnant and the reason why she pulled this scam is exactly what you have proffered - she knew no one would believe that she faked the pregnancy. Remember, she was an actress, so pretending is not difficult for her.
Aus Unknown said…
I agree with your OzManda, 100% the first paragraph. It amazes me how much Kate is beloved all because Meg is so despised. Yes, I have grown to appreciate her much more, but she still has a past that is not pure as the driven snow. Kate also ghosted all her friends and was known to be rude. I think she has matured.

However, I disagree slightly with the last. First, the Queen is very old. Secondly, royals are cosseted and not They couldn't even contain Fergie and Diana - and they were in their circles. Thirdly, Harry was throwing tantrums - that has been confirmed. Harry went rogue and that's what threw them off-guard.

The fact that William and Kate are on to Meg is merely because to not do so would make them incredibly stupid and ignorant to what is right in front of them. They have slightly more real life experience than say, Charles or the Queen. Plus, in William's case, it's more organic - he just doesn't like flash celebrities as a rule. He's a snob in that sense.
Aus Unknown said…
Just to add: William is reportedly so private as to be bordering on secrecy and paranoia. He would not have taken to Meg under any circumstances, just based on that. He knew she was an actress on the make who craved publicity as a faux humanitarian. That was enough.
Now! said…
Yes, Meg's attempt to take photos at Kensington Palace would have put Will off immediately. Even Charles was enraged and immediately put her on a plane back to Canada.

In addition, there was also a the leak of a story about Prince George, who was an unruly toddler, and his "usual morning destruction." That sounds like a family joke that made it into the public sphere, and it's tempting to assume that Meg was the conduit. Not the sort of thing staff would leak.

I'd be paranoid too if I were the parent of several children who faced constant kidnapping threats and death threats. Ordinary parents worry about their kids; can you imagine how much worse it must be to get the daily MI6 reports about all the baddies out there?
Now! said…
On that note, it'll be interesting to see which tiara Bea gets when she finally gets married. Green looks lovely on redheads.

Her boyfriend Edo seems to have weathered the initial storms and continues to be invited to Royal events. They are living together in St. James Palace. At least he's a born toff so he knows what he's getting into by joining The Firm.
Hikari said…
At the time of this couple's wedding, I was rooting for them to succeed, and truly believed that, though it was a whirlwind courtship, and Meg was such an unconventional choice for the partner of a Royal, that they were genuinely in love and she was going to be a good influence on Harry. But as more and more information about her behavior before and after her marriage has emerged, I'm really wondering where Harry's head is at. It's sounding more and more as if his choice of Meghan was first and foremost a huge, reckless act of defiance toward his family and the monarchy itself. Meg may be a chaos agent, but so is the person that gave her access to his family. She isn't just 'bohemian', or inappropriate--she's dangerous. And she seems to have exacerbated Hazza's already reckless tendencies as well. I wonder if he married Meg in the throes of some sort of mental breakdown. The question that burns even more than "Why did he choose her?" is "WHY was this marriage ever allowed to go forward?" The Queen could have forbade it, and said if the two wanted to get married, they could only do so if Harry would renounce his titles, marry in a registry office and leave the U.K. Until the birth of Louis, 5 months after their engagement, H. still needed her permission. She could have required them to at least delay their wedding and not allowed them to announce an engagement until after Louis was born. Another six months to vet MM before the wedding might have made all the difference in helping Harry see the light.

I just don't know about him. He seems as reckless and selfish as she does.
Aus Unknown said…
@Nutty: re your response to my post above - Will was paranoid before marriage and kids ... there was an article about it, well, more like a snippet about Will's "secrecy" and that Kate was often used to deflect from whatever he was doing. I didn't know about that leak regarding George - nasty, indeed.

I don't agree about the necessary worry for their kids over and above ordinary parents. These kids are the most guarded in the world. Nothing will ever happen to them. It never has (to royal children). Anne's bodyguard took a bullet for her at BP. I have more fear for children of ordinary parents.
Jdubya said…
Thanks for reposting this. Very interesting
Hikari said…
Given what happened with William and Harry's mother, I can't blame William for being cautious, even extraordinarily cautious, about the people he allows close to himself and his family. Overexposure to the media indirectly killed his mother, so neither can I blame him for hating the media circus that must perforce surround him and his heirs all the time as part of the Royal family. None of us can assert that 'nothing will ever happen to them' because we simply can't know that. Any terrible thing could happen to anyone at any time, regardless of our station in life. As for 'nothing ever having happened to Royal children . .' well, not maybe in the 20th century. Ever hear of two little guys called 'The Princes in the Tower'? Royal history is long, and there have been a LOT of royal children down the centuries, so we cannot assert that, either. William's children are growing up in a vastly different world than that inhabited by his grandmother, father or even he and Harry. Then-Princess Elizabeth and Margaret used to stroll around on public outings with their nanny and perhaps one bodyguard . . in parks and stores with regular people. Diana did her best to give her boys normal experiences, too, but 20+ years on, with increased religious and political divisions and public mass shootings every other day it seems, surely an excess of caution is better than a cavalier attitude toward security. The BRF used to worry most about Sinn Fein who, if anyone can remember back to the ancient history of 1979, assassinated Prince Charles' beloved great-Uncle Dickie Mountbatten *along with two of his young grandchildren* while on a fishing trip in Scotland, where they should have been safe and assumed they were.

I always assumed that Harry hated the press intrusion into their lives, and the ever-present risk that anyone who tries to get close to them is only posing as a friend in order to profit off of them in some way. But what does he do but introduce a fame-hungry self-promoter with extensive media contacts right into the bosom of his family? I do not, and probably never will, understand this quizzical action of his. To William, it must feel like the most personal betrayal possible, because it's so very close to him and his family. I suspect that Harry is not playing with a full deck, to either have been manipulated into this marriage by a master manipulator or, worse--that he was fully aware of what Meghan's motives were for joining the family, and the negative effect she would have, and did it anyway. To William, his little brother is now sleeping with the enemy. Is there any wonder there is a rift? One day not terribly distant from now, William is going to be Harry's sovereign as well as his brother, and I don't think Harry is going to make it easy on him, either, based on what we've seen thus far. It's really the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson all over again . . .or will be, if the Crown is forced to exile the Sussexes. I think William is looking ahead and fearing what is to come on his watch.
Hikari said…
Paja, I think that's what we are all waiting with bated breath to find out. The six-week period expires two weeks from now.

The blogosphere has been discussing the 'Woman in the Brown Dress'--a young, brown-haired, white, visibly pregnant woman in a brown velour dress who appeared to ambush Meghan by waiting just outside the church doors at the Commonwealth Day service. She was not part of the security detail. She may have been a staffer, but that seems unlikely. She was standing very close to the building, in close range to the Royal family as they exited the service, so she was not a random member of the public, or she never would have been permitted so near. This person appears to have been seen and recognized by Meghan, though not acknowledged. Is this the surrogate? It's a scintillating possibility, but of course, there's no proof (as yet) that the Sussexes hired a surrogate. Something appears to have gone awry for them in some manner relating to this baby when on April 11th, some two weeks in advance of Meghan's supposed due date, and three weeks after she'd been last seen in public, there was a sudden flurry of press releases from the Sussexes outlining their plans to keep every and anything relating to the birth of their child 'private'. Then another three weeks of feverish speculation passed before the world received word (in a bizarre fashion) that she had had a boy. After proclaiming for 5-6 weeks 'how sorry' Meg felt for Catherine doing the baby photo call mere hours after giving birth and insisting that they would take a picture when they were good and ready . . . in the end, their elaborately staged photo call at Windsor Castle came 48 hours after the supposed birth. Or at most a day and a half longer than Catherine waited to debut her babies. 'Taking our sweet time' translated to about 40 hours, give or take . .or two weeks, depending on one's thoughts about the actual birth date of "Archie".

Had everything gone smoothly according to whatever plan they had in place, it doesn't seem like the PR around the baby announcement would have been so shambolic, or their requests for 'privacy' so last-minute. If they well and truly desired privacy, they could have made that known earlier in the pregnancy, or at the time MM went on maternity leave, instead of waiting nearly a month to plead for privacy around the birth. So either there is a legal or physical hitch of some kind that was not at all desirable to their plans, or else Meg is just pulling a Taylor Swift by 'disappearing' in order to whet the appetite (and demand) for the photos of baby Archie when they eventually arrive.

Their worst-case scenario must be: they have a surrogate and she won't give them custody. If that happens, it would be impossible to sustain the illusion that they are actually parenting "Archie". Everything they are doing now feels like playing for time, but eventually their time will run out. When they released the statement that: 1. Archie would have no royal titles--not even the bare minimum one, and 2. that as a 'private citizen', the public would have no right to photos or updates of his progress . . what does that suggest, other than they do not have a baby to raise and no access/rights to any pictures of him? A month on, we haven't seen any.

The next month or two will reveal more, I imagine. If there is no publicly released christening date or photos, or any pictures or information at all . . or if Meghan's maternity leave drags on past the summer with no further information, I'd say something is seriously awry with them. That photo call last month convinced me that something already is awry. How badly remains to be seen. This will be the entertainment of the summer.
Hikari said…
Pretending isn't difficult . . especially if one is not hindered by stuff like embarrassment or . . conscience. Pretending convincingly (ie., good acting) takes skill. I believe Meg is a deceptive person, but she's not *good* at it or else we all would have bought whatever ruse she was trying to pull. And there wouldn't be so many people who feel we can see right through to her deceptive, money-grubbing, fame-sucking little heart.

If the couple had decided to conceive via surrogate for whatever reason, and been frank about it, they could have done much good, as they are always clap-trapping on that they care about. Maybe instead of playing 'musical chari-ities' on their Instagram account, they might have gone on record as using a surrogate and opened a dialogue about fertility issues and alternative ways to becoming a family. They might have forced an (overdue) change in royal statutes that state a child must be 'born of the body'. When those documents were written, no one could have imagined IVF. In those days, a woman had to be witnessed as giving birth because it was the only way to ascertain it was hers. Now science has elevated what is possible. A child with royal DNA should be considered 'of the body' just as much, however he/she is delivered. Even if honesty would have cost Archie a title, hence all the subterfuge over these many long months with Meghan's Magic Belly . . how's it different than now? If they have both colluded in lies and deceptions, it was all for naught, because he still won't have a title. And they would have done us all the courtesy of being truthful and retaining their dignity, never mind not insulted the intelligence of the world with increasingly desperate porkies and plots. If they have gone to such lengths to obfuscate if Archie did not arrive in this world via the normal fashion, they will have to excuse me if I do not buy for a second that 'No Title/private citizen' business was all H. and M.'s idea. I believe the Queen has declined definitively to extend a title to Archie because something is profoundly unacceptable to her about this situation and H. and M. are still trying to spin it.
NoNONO said…
Hikari, you have really nailed this. I have just begun to read this blog and would just add that, at the tender ages William and Harry were when Diana was killed and due to their positions in the BRF, this is what lead to their personalities forming and becoming the men they are today.

William understands the royal protocols but also remembers how the media affected his beloved mother. Harry was a little boy, was treated as such and given too much free reign to act out since he was only “the spare”.

All this has come to the forefront as they enter into a time when QE2 may not be around much longer and some serious changes in the monarchy will be taking place.

I’m sure Prince William is not happy that his brother has chosen someone like Markle as his mate to move into the next chapter of the Windsor story.

OKay said…
That whole "Kate and her parents (mother) planned..." thing makes me roll my eyes so hard. Hey, not saying her parents didn't dream of marrying their little girl off to the future King, or that sending her to St. Andrews wasn't part of it (and LOTS of UK parents did that, BTW). But here's the thing. They could NOT under any circumstances make William fall in love and decide to choose Kate for his life mate. The fact is, they are very well suited to each other and really do seem to be best friends. Both William and Harry in years past have commented that it's a matter not just of finding someone suitable, but someone who's willing to do the job. Kate is, and she's earned it, but William also married well.
OzManda said…
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and discussion, this stuff is better then a reality show:) What do you all think is going on behind the scenes? The lack of appearance of Megs and the baby is getting more and more mysterious - however i dont remember how soon after birth were the cambridges children seen?
Aus Unknown said…
You can't compare different centuries - security is much more sophisticated now ... and you also can't compare the fact that ordinary persons do not have the highest ranking security guarding them 24/7 as against the royals who do. Is there 100% guarantee? No, nothing in life is a sure thing except taxes and death. However, you are ignoring the salient fact: children who get murdered and/or abducted aren't royal. End of story.
Aus Unknown said…
OKay: it's very true what you say. However, when William was young and free (at St Andrews) by virtue of press agreement, he was vulnerable to the Middletons overtures. There were many rumours going around over the years about how they "courted" him - by reputable journalists. I'm not sure how long you've been following their story, but that is the way it was perceived. William had also lost his mother and was vulnerable to predators, just as Harry was.

Predators are not always so obvious ... to point, the Queen has kept the Middletons at an arms' length. The fact that Kate is now valued does not extend to the Middletons. It's all history now, but there are some people who don't forget and abide by the saying that the "means doesn't justify the end" - as far as their irrelevant opinions go. And by 'irrelevant' I include my own.

I'm not one who thinks the marriage is perfect. I believe the cheating story and it's obvious Kate has issues with eating/weight. Whatever, I still think she's representing the Crown well, as I previously posted. She has her own quiet charisma. I think the marriage will go the distance because, by their own admissions, it was friendship first. But I don't buy the whole "deep love" fairytale. I also think that William has got a lot more respect for Kate since they have matured and had kids. She's a wonderful mother, by all accounts. But again, harking back to an old royal reporter, I think William loves and trusts Kate, but whether or not he's in love with her, we will never know.
Aus Unknown said…
Hikari: exactly right, Meg has no shame or sense of embarrassment in pulling off scams. She thinks it's her entitlement.
Now! said…
Louis was born April 23 and baptized on July 9 - a bit more than 10 weeks. If the Sussex baby follows this schedule, the baptism would be in mid to late July.

Louis wasn't seen much between the the birth and the baptism, but that could have also been because of a desire not to distract from the Sussex wedding.

As I recall, there were some photos of George and Charlotte, taken by Kate, issued before Charlotte's baptism.
Aus Unknown said…
The baby will have to be shown at some point. There is a real baby somewhere from someone's womb ... I'd buy into some conspiracy about complications from the adoption legalities ...
Unknown said…
Hi,

Just a thought on tiara-gate

PE had to delay her wedding because of PH and smirkle, she had already chosen the colours etc and being close to her grandma had discussed it. So when smirkles came along and said she wanted the emeralds (what megan wants megan gets) she waas told "no" by HM as it was the colour scheme of her beloved granddaughter PE had already given up a lot by being the second wedding that year and having to alter dates her grandma was not going to see her loose her colours too.
Hikari said…
Security is more sophisticated now . . .and so too are criminals. Terrorism is a very real and present threat to average citizens and Royals alike. Due to their high profiles, political figures are of greater value as ideological targets than ordinary people, and that would be their greatest concern from a security standpoint. You are correct that more 'average' children are the victims of random, violent crimes than are Royal kids, absolutely, and because they aren't celebrities, crimes against them will never be 'news' outside of their immediate areas. But I hear you saying that you think William is 'paranoid'--ie, unreasonable, even mentally unbalanced--for being super-security conscious. Chances are in his favor that his family will be safe--but the way to continue to insure that isn't to relax his security measures.

People intent on doing harm are oftentimes just lucky, rather than criminal masterminds. That homemade bomb the IRA used to kill Lord Mountbatten was in no way sophisticated, and I think the perpetrators were as surprised as the rest of the world that they actually succeeded. I always think the walkabouts are a security nightmare for the protection squad. With so many throngs of people on the streets pressing up to the barricades, it's impossible to pat them all down for weapons. Gun crime in the U.K. is very low compared to the U.S. since guns are illegal, but there could still be some floating around.

The 'story' is ongoing . .so you cannot possibly assert that no Royal kids are ever going to get hurt just because there haven't been any recent cases of royal children getting hurt which we know about. Before President Lincoln got shot, no American president had ever been shot, either. Since him, look how many attempts and successes there have been. What would you suggest William do--scale down his security on his kids and get complacent because nothing has happened . . (yet)? That's frankly asking for something *to* happen.

William is coming under fire from a lot of quarters for being a range of negative things: uptight, judgmental, a snob, not as fun as his little brother, paranoid, divisive, unforgiving . . . I don't think this is fair at all. Considering the burden of state which he will have to assume eventually, taking over a monarchy in flux, he is dealing with instability from within his own ranks, as introduced by Harry, who should be his right hand, perhaps not in rank, but as an emotional support and ally. William was right to expect that his own brother would be loyal to the Family. Harry has demonstrated that his judgement is compromised and William can't rely on him. The people that Meghan has cultivated around herself could inadvertently pose a risk to William's family all in the guise of getting publicity. William is entitled to concern on that score.
Girl with a Hat said…
from a comment at the daily express about Meghan's choice of godparents :

No surprise! When Prince William and Kate went to visit Mee-Gain and Archie, Kate wasn't allowed to hold Archie and was told she would not be allowed to have anything to do with him. Kate left after a few minutes in floods of tears.....Of course, now Me-Gain's PR team (Clinton's old one) is denying everything....as usual. The best they can do is run around erasing things and spreading their blanket lies.
Hikari said…
Hmm. I wonder how close the Cambridges (or anyone) was actually allowed to get to this baby. Meghan is deeply threatened by Catherine on every level; Kate is a three-time (genuine) mother, who carried three (genuine) pregnancies and who is experienced. William is also an experienced dad. If there's anything 'off' about Archie . . (insert favorite theory here) . . Kate would immediately know it. And Hazza has already demonstrated in spades that the last thing he intends to do is take any advice from his meddling, bossy elder brother. Sure, why would he--William has only been a dad for six years and has no clue what he's on about.

I have to take with a grain of salt any of these reports about anyone, royal or not, visiting Archie at Frogmore Cottage. The conflicting reports that FC is uninhabitable and uninhabited--no extensive renovations; the place is deserted--feel much more reliable, because they contradict Harkle's agenda. I don't have a lot to bet with, but I'd lay everything I could spare with Ladbrokes that in actuality the Cambridges have not held, seen or even been within a mile radius of Baby Archie since his birth was announced. It's shocking to think that . . but I have come to this conclusion. If there is a baby, Meg and Harry do not have him and thus arranging visits from Harry's family is impossible. Also the Daily Express is akin to our National Enquirer and is not a reliable source.
Aus Unknown said…
You are twisting my words. It's all about risk. I reiterate that royal children are less likely to be abducted than regular children. That is a fact and doesn't cease to exist by your denial.

Aus Unknown said…
To add: all children who are abducted and/or murdered or molested are ordinary children. That is what I meant by fact. Anyway, I'm not going to try to convince you any longer. Believe what you want, I won't be responding.
hardyboys said…
I guess my question is how does one trick the queen? Nutty flavour you know you have the best blog ever. The layout your style of writing the inquisitive nature of all your followers but no one has answered how the Madwoman could trick the queen. It's not possible. Also you would have to be clinically insane to put a doll on national TV for the world to see. This is why the doll theories are too hard to accept
Jdubya said…
Nutty once posted about a blog Harry Markle and he has an interesting new post about gold diggers vs grifters.

Between this blog and harrymarkle, I am totally fascinated
hardyboys said…
Me too. Good treadmill material
cricket61 said…
Just read that their wedding photographer's computer got hacked and a bunch of their wedding photos were leaked. Surprise...surprise...Meghan is so thirsty!! Especially on the eve of Trooping the Colors!
Girl with a Hat said…
National Enquirer broke many stories - from John Edwards' affair on his dying wife to stories about Hillary Clinton. I don't read it very often but it has had some very big scoops which the mainstream media wouldn't dare print. So don't go putting it down. I read the London Times every day and they wouldn't print something about Meghan if it were true without the queen's permission.
Fifi LaRue said…
For the Trooping of the Colors, Meghan the Grifter was made to dress demurely and appropriately. In addition, her hair was pulled back neatly, instead of so-called "sexy" loose hairs around her face.
Girl with a Hat said…
she also didn't have the makeup painted on to her face
Hikari said…
I was a bit surprised to see Meghan there; I thought she might be too deep in the doghouse with Her Majesty to attend. But not only did ER let her come, she permitted her to ride in Kate and Camilla's carriage. Kudos to Catherine and Camilla (neither of whom are Farkle Fans) for smiling and being gracious.

Note, however, that when Meg finally appeared on the balcony, the Cambridges had placed themselves way down at the far end. Any further away from her and they would have gone over the the side. Well out of range for her to try and engage them in chat or attempt to paw Kate with the Claw as she did at the Christmas services.

To say something nice (before I resume with Other) . . she was certainly demure-looking, and for once, her hair and makeup were faultless. She looked very subdued, actually . . smiling but not overdoing it and not obnoxiously searching out cameras for her camera-ready face. Perhaps the LG deprogramming campaign is working . .?

Today Meg once again displayed the knack which is particular to her of being sartorially out of step with the occasion. For all that the dress was Givenchy, I found it unflattering and too heavy and dark a color. For a woman with access to top designers and stylists, she gets it wrong nearly every time--wearing a white cotton summer garden party dress fit for an 18 year old in December; funeral black for Christmas (a huge no-no); a gold and silver brocade evening dress to an afternoon family event (to which she may not have even been invited); but when she has an opportunity to dress to the nines, as would be appropriate at an evening gala for one of her husband's primary patronages, she turns out dressed like a waiter from the Olive Garden. Meg favors navy quite a bit, as we've seen several outfits in this color. How odd, then, that at a formal portrait taking last summer when the dress code was 'navy and white', she appeared in a wool knit dress in loden green--a ghastly color on her, completely out of season, and in blatant defiance of what she'd been asked to wear. At the Commonwealth Day service, just prior to disappearing from our sight for 2 months, she wore a white dress in a whimsical print . . for a sober church service in raw early March. She was the *only* person wearing white.

Just as she was the only person wearing dark navy (as close to black as she could get, probably having been expressly forbidden to wear black.) Lady Louise Windsor had on a blue dress--a cheerier blue, in a lightweight style as befit a young girl. All the other adult female royals were in 'springy' colors. Meghan's ensemble would have been very appropriate to the ANZAC service . . for the Queen's summer birthday parade and 'the' event to kick off the summer, it was a misjudgment. Or perhaps it, and all her style 'missteps' are actually on purpose.

She looked nice, not really like herself, which is what I think they are after. Less 'her' is a good thing for the family. I'd just like to know what she's got against colors. It is 'Troooping the COLOUR' after all and is supposed to be festive. Harry was in black again. She's got him avoiding all his colorful uniforms as well. Wills always wears his red one.

Did anyone notice that Meg's hat was a replica of the one Doria wore to her wedding, only in blue? Meg really looks more and more like her mother in the more restrained styles.

It goes without saying that Catherine looked lovely as always in pale yellow. These prissy formal fashions really suit her. She looks like she could be straight out of the 18th century, really.
Humor Me said…
Nutty - I had read/ heard that MM was expected at TTC and there she was. Wowzers - she looked like she had just given birth. Her face, her hands, were still puffy like many women post partum. All photos of her were either with her body hidden - seated, or standing behind many people on the balcony. Did anyone else besides me like that she looked 9 months PG when she debuted Archie? that post partum bump was too big in the trench dress style she wore for the pictures. And, she was not puffy - she looked like she always looked for the past 7+ months. Today for this royal watcher was a shock at 4 weeks postpartum.
gfbcpa said…
The puffiness in her face could be fillers. Or she may been been crying.
Now! said…
It could also be a reaction to prescription drugs. Perhaps SSRIs, perhaps something else. Every outsider who has marred into the Royals has struggled to adapt -from Di to Fergie to Sophie to Kate to Meghan. Severe of these women would have benefited from psychological care. Maybe the young Royals emphasis on the mental health has how allowed for actual treatment.
Fifi LaRue said…
Meghan's face was puffy, as it wasn't before while she was supposedly pregnant. Maybe Rx for mental health issues/personality disorders. Her smile was subdued, as well as her clothes. I still think there was, in American Black vernacular terms, a Come-to-Jesus talk(s) with Lord Geidt, both individually and as a couple. I think there was a no mistaken cause and effect mission statement delivered by said Lord.
Wut said…
Maybe she's actually pregnant now.... During her pregnancy her belly was up and down like a yoyo and she didn't seem to put on weight anywhere else.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/justmythorts

a clip of the row they had on the balcony yesterday.
Jdubya said…
Whoa. That clip. Wish there was sound . Thanks for posting the link
Fifi LaRue said…
The puffiness might be due to fertility drug treatments which cause bloating.
Lurking said…
It looked like she was about to cry.
Girl with a Hat said…
also here at 3:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHPSP7ioRD4
Girl with a Hat said…
there's a rumour that she wasn't invited but arrived with a sollicitor to force herself in and that is why she had to share a carriage. a video called Harry in top form - that has the rumour as it's opening narrative.
Hikari said…
I discount this rumor entirely, for the simple fact that Meghan was given a prime spot in the top carriage--the one carrying the two future Queen Consorts of the United Kingdom. Carriages are assigned, as are spots on the balcony. Meghan would not have been permitted in either had she not been approved by the Queen to be there. I didn't think Harry was particularly in top form, either. There were a few pictures of him smiling in the carriage, but Hazza looked extremely glum on the balcony throughout. Though, if you look at pictures from past years, even pre-Meghan, Harry always looks sour on the balcony at TOC. Video appears to show him chastising his wife for not showing appropriate respect to the Queen during 'God Save the Queen'. I'm gratified to see that Harry hasn't completely forgotten how to be deferential to the Queen, but I don't know that I'd call it 'top form'. I don't think he's been on top form for a very long time. At least 2 years.
Jdubya said…
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a27879351/prince-philip-birthday-duke-of-edinburgh-turns-98/

This article shows prince phillip with a 2 yr old prince Charles. My has he changed! And looks do much like Harry
Jen said…
@Jdubya - oh my yes! that little 2 year old Charles does look a lot like a young Harry....


I am intrigued by all the theories. I'm not sure what to believe any more; she DOES look like a lot of post-birth moms I've known. Seeing the video from the TOC, showing her trying to speak to Harry, and looking like she's going to cry....I ALMOST feel sorry for her. She very well could be suffering from postpartum depression. It may have been a very innocent thing between them, but she's very emotional? I just don't know!!!

Avery said…
LOL. Yeah, I find it odd that she wasn't bloated in her last month - and that her tummy didn't drop after 'giving birth'. I don't think I've ever seen such a high belly on a new mom. Too bad her milk didn't come in either ... hmmmm ... whatever she's taking obviously doesn't affect the top bits, just face.
Avery said…
Whatever it is - hasn't plumped up her mammory's. Archie must be very hungry. ;)
Hikari said…
Harry and his grandfather have identical smiles, noses and jawlines. There's a shot of a young Philip with his head down, and in that shot I see William.
Hikari said…
If MM was turning her back on the Queen (twice) in attempting to speak to Harry (twice) during "God Save the Queen", he was right to reprimand her. Very inappropriate and disrespectful. After a year in the Royal Family, there's no excuse for that. Nothing she had to say couldn't have waited 2 minutes for the anthem to finish. Interrupting the anthem with inane chatter is disrespectful anywhere, including MM's country of birth . . and even more particularly so with the head of state mere steps away from her. Short of trying to say she felt sick and was going to faint (which didn't happen), she needed to keep quiet. Sad that she still needs to be told this. She will be 38 years old in a couple of months and sometimes the children have more self-restraint.
Wolpertinger said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7124183/PIERS-MORGAN-Meghans-decision-M-Trumps-state-visit-shameful.html
Hikari said…
We all know that Piers Morgan has it in for Meghan. For a guy who had a superficial cyber-tweeting relationship with her, followed by a drink at his local, isn't he behaving more like a spurned lover than an Internet acquaintance who met her once? And who is furthermore, *married*? His pissiness over her 'ghosting' him is all out of proportion to the level of acquaintance they had. Tweeting each other, even every day, doesn't constitute a 'friendship' and Piers is old enough to know this. He's a media personality and had to have known that he could potentially be useful to Meghan. His level of ire is more like a guy who'd slept with her and had expectations that it would continue . . .?

As a Briton and a media professional, Piers should be well aware of the etiquette surrounding state dinners with the Queen, and he's just stirring the pot again.

Meghan did not 'refuse to meet Trump' because that decision was never hers to make. The Queen decides who is invited to her state banquets, and they are going to be people of loyalty to herself and to the Family, who can be trusted to smile and make courteous, if inane chit-chat to foreign dignitaries, no matter how boorish or dull or politically divisive they may be. The idea is to never show up the Queen and never make the family look bad. Meghan cannot be trusted to do anything of the sort--and particularly would not, with Trump.

Meghan's grievous error is in thinking that she can practice her politics and burnish her own celebrity star from within the Royal family. Nyet, nada, no way.
The Queen did not invite Harry to this 'do either, despite erroneous reports to the contrary. He got a private lunch with Trump, but not the dinner.

Piers must have memory problems, if he's forgotten already that Catherine was not invited to a state dinner until 5 years into her marriage. There were 8 state occasions during that time that the future Queen Consort of the United Kingdom was not invited to. Catherine had to prove herself first, and have time to season, and so she did.

Piers has an axe to grind and loves to make Meg look as bad as he can (not that she needs help in this area) . . but he's got it flat wrong. MM had no power to decide to boycott this dinner. She wasn't allowed within 30 miles of it. End of.
OzManda said…
Hikari I agree 100%, the conduct of Morgan is completely in line with someone who was her lover and is bitter over a breakup. I have a unproven theory that he was a "client" of hers or they had some other PR agreement that she dumped as soon as she scored her fish.
Wtf is going on with her face? How is it larger now than when she was supposedly pregnant? I’m trying not to be too into conspiracy theories, but something isn’t right. Plus, no 36 year old gets pregnant naturally 2 months into marriage. And, the attention seeking outfit and announcing at Eugenie’s wedding when she was barely pregnant, no woman her age would publicly announce that early. This is a complete shit show. Something’s fishy.
OzManda said…
I dont know anything about having kids so i am no expert but i also think it is weird..is it normal for a face to puff up that much after a birth?
Jen said…
I am certainly no expert, but the Google says that adema (swelling) is more common in the last trimester of your pregnancy, and usually goes away within the first week or two after giving birth (unless you suffered pre-eclampsia or high blood pressure). It's been almost 4 weeks, right? She appears to still have the swelling or maybe it's weight gain?
QueenWhitby said…
I think she’s recovering from plastic surgery. Her “pregnancy contract” with her first husband focused on recovering her looks and figure so her “career” wasn’t harmed.
Lurking said…
Yeah, 36 year olds can get pregnant naturally without really trying. Ask me how I know. It's not like you hit 35 or 36 and all of a sudden you're infertile. There are many many questions surrounding her, but claiming she couldn't possibly get pregnant on any timetable is grasping at straws.
Hikari said…
You may be on to something there, though why would she need facial reconstructive surgery after a 'pregnancy'? Her face does look considerably rounder, though her cheekbones are still visible. The effect is to make her look very much like Doria and also vaguely Asian around the eyes.

Her prolonged absence from the public eye might have been just the opportunity to have a little work done . . though so many of us are convinced that she didn't actually carry 'Archie'. Given her current status in the RF . . (favor: low), and also her reckless financial extravagance during her first year of marriage, I doubt very much that Charles would approve expenses for cosmetic surgery for a woman who is supposed to be bonding with a newborn. One supposes that the Queen frowns upon such a self-absorbed display/use of Crown funds. If she were a proponent of cosmetic procedures, a number of the members of her family could have certainly benefited from some. (Not naming names . . but she and Philip considered, and rejected, having Charles's ears pinned back when he was a child.) Even if Meg somehow finagled her Bestie Amal Clooney to pony up for some procedures . . that would not go over well in the family at all. Though . . if she's been laid up recuperating from plastic surgery rather than tending to a newborn, that would be one explanation for why her husband, 'the beaming new father', has been so often absent from home, often attending multiple events in the same day and taking numerous meetings at KP, where he 'used to' live, and a slightly inconvenient distance from his 'new home' for the purpose of daily engagements.

Who can ever say with these two what's really going on? They bring a special meaning to the word 'chaos.'

Hikari said…
Another of the popular theories--that Meg, with the aid of fertility treatments, has conceived her own child, after a year-plus of Surrogate Pregnancy Subterfuge. If she is carrying a child right now, and is far enough along for the (this time real) physical signs to be apparent, then 'Archie' will be getting a sibling well before his first birthday . . . how would they plan to explain that?

I always had a feeling that Meg would want to have at least two children within two years because: a) she has always known her tenure in the RF would be brief, and b) anything she can do to show up Catherine, she will do . .including naked arms at the TOC and having a second baby within a year, George and Charlotte being 18 months apart.

*If* she is pregnant now, for real this time . . . they sure would have been better off to wait for this first year and see what developed naturally before they rused into any sort of off-the-reservation (illegal, technically) surrogacy contract and all its attendant drama within the first two months of their marriage. If rumors that she was seeking fertility treatments in Toronto even before the marriage are true, they hardly gave natural events time to transpire. Couples who adopt often find themselves naturally conceiving within the same year . . is this what has happened here?

Another thought: She and Harry did conceive around the time of the wedding, either just before or just after . . but she suffered a very early miscarriage, and then panicked that she'd never be able to have Harry's child, hence rushing into a surrogacy thing. Or, more sinisterly, the 9 months of fake pregnancy just past, with ever-changing baby Bump in defiance of both logic and biology were due to a miscarriage-related psychosis she was experiencing . . in which the family allowed her to simulate a pregnancy as a form of therapy? This is a whoo-whoo scenario, along with the plastic baby scenario. Either of these would point to a woman with serious psychological issues being aided and abetted by her husband and his entire family.

Most of us think that Meg does have some psychological issues, but probably not post-partum/pregnancy loss psychosis-related. Though that would be the most sympathetic explanation for her.

Hikari said…
Meg could be experiencing weight gain due to medication or some other medical condition, though that doesn't jibe with her 'holistic health/green tea/yoga' aesthetic. She may have gained weight due to frustration eating and not getting the level of activity she's used over these last three months, especially if LG has her confined somewhere. I think the facial roundness we are noticing could also be at least partially explained by the style she was wearing. Her face tends to look rounder, and always has done, when her hair is severely scraped back and she's wearing unflattering matronly styles and hats. I liked her hat at TOC last year, but I am not a fan of this navy one or the white pillbox style at the CD service. They are just not flattering to her face shape.

Her dress choice this year was more conservative than the Carolina Herrera number from last year, though the short sleeves still violated the dress code and the color was too dark, violating the spirit of the occasion, which called for light, summery colors and styles. It would have been suitable for a remembrance service for D-Day veterans, perhaps. The purpose of the boxy, horrid matching cape in the carriage was later revealed when she removed it prior to the balcony, when the white cap sleeves were then on display, drawing one's eye to her in the back row. Alternatively, she could have just opted for a lighter overall color for the same effect, but this one is always about the dramatic entrance. Also, the cape was cover on the way to the balcony to camouflage momentarily that she had once again violated the directive to not show bare arms. She showed less skin than last year, but still managed to be more uncovered than any other lady once the cape was off.

Just don't know anything for sure. But it sure is fun to speculate about. Meghan has provided a vicarious hobby for so many people, I guess that is a form of public service, isn't it? :)
Girl with a Hat said…
she doesn't need Charles' money - she has made plenty merching to take care of her needs.

She did get some Botox as her forehead is very smooth and has no lines. She may have put on some weight because her neck is thicker but it's hard to see the rest of her body in the clothing she chose to wear.

By the way, I saw her life line in her left hand during TOC and she isn't going to live very long. Mind you, the right hand could be quite different, but chances are, she's not going to make it past 50, and I'm being generous here. My brother had the same length line and he died at 42.
Aus Unknown said…
Of course 36-year-olds can get pregnant naturally and quickly. However, science and biology inform us that a woman's fertility falls off a cliff at 35 ... ask me how I know. It's just not as easy for a woman nearing 40 ... and Meg has lived a hard life, a very hard life. Being thin doesn't help because a woman needs cholesterol to produce the sex hormones.
Aus Unknown said…
These rumours of coercion against one of the most powerful families in the world are just silly, if not downright ridiculous and delusional.
Blackbird said…
I saw this on a blog and it makes perfect sense.

Meghan was pregnant when they announced in Australia but miscarried so lined up a surrogate, who had Archie. But then she fell pregnant again soon after and she's almost due.

If true, maybe they'll lock one away in secret or rotate their appearances just to trick everyone.
Blackbird said…
If true they must've had the surrogate lined up around the first time she fell pregnant because otherwise that wouldn't make sense. Maybe she was worried all along that she wouldn't be able to carry to term or something.
Jen said…
Nope...I don't buy this. A miscarriage would have garnered her so much sympathy and attention (except from those who never thought her preggers to begin with) that she would have been happy to tell the world.
Hikari said…
I agree that she probably would have wanted to play the martyr card if this had happened. My theory since the first appearance of Moonbump (which for me was that engagement in early December with the square-shaped, folding belly that looked to be about 7 months' gestation for a woman who had only entered her 5th month that week) has been that MM is either unable or unwilling to carry a baby, but the couple colluded to arrange a surrogacy/simulate a pregnancy because they feared that had MM admitted openly that she couldn't have her own children, that would have been a deal-breaker to the marriage. If we recall, early on in their engagement, they talked about wanting to adopt children. Knowing that adoptive children could not be in the line of succession, not being biologically related, they explored surrogacy, but since a surrogacy was unprecedented in the royal family, it presented the same legal/constitutional issues. So they went with a 'fake a pregnancy' route, in hopes of no doubt getting their child a title . . but their ruse was discovered and immediately after discovery, they started on about 'privacy' and eschewing all titles and royal privileges for their child (including press updates) so that he could have a 'normal' life. When one's parents are Prince/Duke and Princess/Duchess of the United Kingdom, and son/brother/daughter-in-law to the future sovereigns, 'normal' is not really in the cards. I wouldn't completely rule out MM being pregnant now, but it doesn't feel that likely to me. If she does give birth in a few months' time, this infant will be too little to pass off as 'Archie' . . especially if it's a girl. And who exactly *is* 'Archie'? Is he their own biological child, carried by another? Was he adopted from another woman altogether? Is he a prop? It's hard to fathom H. and M. walking around and smiling as though everything is normal. Current speculations is that she plans on taking a 6 month maternity leave, which is what Kate took with each of her babies, but makes a change from the earlier assertion she made that she'd want to resume royal duties 'as quickly as possible'. Perhaps the revised long maternity leave was issued when she found out she was actually pregnant?

Got to hand it to Farkle; she keeps us all entertained. Now that the Belly Show and the Windsor Baby Reveal is over with, she's got to spin another plan to keep the mystery going. Though I have just read that she is slated to guest-edit the September issue of Vogue, giving an interview and publishing photos of the newly-renovated-at-great-taxpayer-expense Frogmore.

Let's play along with this for a second and assume that the cottage has been renovated and is actually the current full-time residence of the Sussexes and their new baby. The project was set to commence in the next week. Those pictures should be interesting, if they appear. I can't really believe even 5% of what's published about Farkle these days.
d.c. said…
lol, yes, I suppose so - she/they do keep us quite entertained with the speculating, what with all the inconsistent statements and visuals. I do wonder what will happen with the Vogue fashion shoot that supposedly will be at Frogmore Cottage, with Archie in attendance...
Also, presumably, Archie and any siblings could be granted titles sometime in the future, by the next king, or whomever - it's possibly they're counting on (hoping for) that? I don't know.
Anonymous said…
Harry and Meghan are obviously supporting a different agenda kinda like the US democrat seedy swamp team. With friends like Clooney, E. Degeneres, Oprah and now M. Obama the pair might already been recruited, sorta like Epstein, or MM had been recruited from the get-go.
Clooney recently outed as a groomed political tool, E. Degeneres also, Oprah linked to H. Clinton and now M. Obama, they all chose well in the empty and greedy MM and depressed vulnerable Harry. Just the types they prey upon. I'm sure HM know this and why the RF are treading carefully. Who knows what's at stake.
abbyh said…

I don't want to get a whole of political here (as it has created some ripples in the Nutty universe) but I was intrigued by comments of the idea that H&M may have some sort of different agenda we have not picked up on yet based on their new near and dear friends, perhaps she is thinking of USA politics and our long time question of just who is the real target audience.

There are beginning rumors that HRC may run yet again.

I don't know if M would run but Hollywood does have a long standing support of wanting to tell us who to vote for. From that, if HRC won, M could parley that into some sort of thank you would like to be an ambassador deal?



Anonymous said…
CookieShark posted a 2016 article from Page Six that read, in part:

"Markle is meeting with lawyers to help manage her turbulent and sudden rise to international fame. Insiders say Markle, who has starred on 'Suits' for six years, may be struggling to come to terms with the overwhelming attention."

Congratulations! That's the funniest thing I've read in days! "Sudden rise to international fame?" "Struggling to come to terms with the overwhelming attention?" Spare me. What a load of BS. I am an American who watches a fair amount of television, and I had never heard of the B until Go Fug Yourself mentioned that Prince Harry was rumored to be dating her in 2017 and both she and her PR firm were very coy about it. Gratingly so. That made me dislike her right then, and I gradually disliked her the more I got to know her. Her behavior at Eugenie's wedding sealed my loathing for her.

So thank you for finding that article, Cookie. It gave me a great laugh!
secateurs said…
Every time I hear that nonsense about Meghan Markle
(MM) wanting to wear the "emerald tiara" that Princess Eugenie chose, I am annoyed all over again. We should each do the appropriate research before insisting that our "opinion" beats facts.

FACT: The Queen is a kind woman who would NEVER treat Harry's prospective wife badly; neither would she so obviously favor a natural grandchild. If Eugenie had asked the Queen if she could wear the Greville Emerald Kokoshnik tiara for her wedding (that WAS planned prior to MM hooking Harry), the Queen would merely have informed MM of the fact and asked her to select a different one. MM would NEVER have expected Eugenie to wear something that MM would wear first, would she? (Maybe she would!)


FACT: Meghan Markle (MM) demanded to wear the Grand Duchess Vladimir tiara with emeralds. If you look up pictures of both tiaras, they are nothing alike. The Greville Emerald Kokoshnik has not been seen in years, while the Grand Duchess Vladimir is often worn by the Queen.

The Grand Duchess Vladimir (GDV) tiara has three (3) separate looks; either with 15 hanging pearls, or with 15 hanging emeralds, and with NO hanging gems, in the "open windows" style (which is my favorite). The Queen wears the GDV in all three styles; it is one of her favorite tiaras. The Queen wore the GDV with pearls to meet the Pope, she wore the GDV with emeralds to a state dinner with the President of Ireland, and she has worn the GDV "open windows" design for an official portrait.

The Queen prefers that young (ahem) Royal brides wear a simple bandeau style of tiara for their weddings (since it is the first wearing of a tiara which is limited to married women). The Queen also cares about comfort; some larger tiaras can become heavy and the bride might become very uncomfortable since she is wearing it for the first time, and there can be many events on a wedding day, and an aching head or neck would be miserable and not give the best affect. Also, a bandeau is more manageable with a veil. The Queen would NEVER put forward one of her favorite, and most worn, grand tiaras for a young (ahem) bride. The notion is ludicrous.

For Meghan Markle to DEMAND to wear one of the Queen's favorite and most grand tiaras is impudent, vulgar, arrogant, and low-class. The Queen allowed her to wear Queen Mary's diamond bandeau and it was just perfect. (MM would have looked like a child playing dress-up in the GDV.) Just more proof that the Queen is smarter about Royal protocol than a silly social climber.

Popular posts from this blog

Is This the REAL THING THIS TIME? or is this just stringing people along?

Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce.  And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before?  which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know.  I'm not a lawyer.  One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away".  That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice.  But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance.  Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei

A Quiet Interlude

 Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event?   Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th?  Oscar's - March 10th?   In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US.  The IRS just never goes away.  Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on).  There's always another one.  Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California.   That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales.   Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere.  But.  The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.  

Christmas is Coming

 The recent post which does mention that the information is speculative and the response got me thinking. It was the one about having them be present at Christmas but must produce the kids. Interesting thought, isn't it? Would they show?  What would we see?  Would there now be photos from the rota?   We often hear of just some rando meeting of rando strangers.  It's odd, isn't it that random strangers just happen to recognize her/them and they have a whole conversation.  Most recently it was from some stranger who raved in some video (link not supplied in the article) that they met and talked and listened to HW talk about her daughter.  There was the requisite comment about HW of how she is/was so kind).  If people are kind, does the world need strangers to tell us (are we that kind of stupid?) or can we come to that conclusion by seeing their kindness in action?  Service. They seem to always be talking about their kids, parenthood and yet, they never seem to have the kids