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Social media support from Meg's celebrity friends - or are they friends?

The past 24 hours have seen an unusual outpouring of support for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex from an unusual range of celebrities.

The American singer P!nk, who to my knowledge has never had any previous connection with Meghan and Harry,  sent out this Tweet early Tuesday European time.


The Tweet was unusual for several reasons. First of all, it was longwinded compared to many of P!nk's other Tweets, which are usually just a few words or emojis.

Secondly, it garnered 18.6 thousand likes in less than 4 hours - four hours which began around 6am Tuesday Central European Time, or 9pm California time on a Monday night. (Does P!nk maybe have a lot of Sussex crossover fans in Australian and Asia?)

Finally, it garnered 18.6 thousand likes very quickly. P!nk's last Tweet to get that many likes, a well-rendered fan art drawing, has been up for 9 days.

What's going on here? Is it a sudden and unexpected organic show of crossover support by fans of P!nk, whose politics lean left like Meghan's?

Or is it this a poorly-executived fraud from P!nk's PR people?

After Ellen, Elton John

The P!nk tweet followed a previous outpouring of support from Elton John, who said he'd invited Meghan and Harry to his estate in the South of France and paid their private jet fare there, and from Ellen DeGeneres, who posted on Instagram to say that she and her wife had met the Sussexes and were charmed by their concern for animal welfare.

Who is corralling all these random celebrities to speak out for the Sussexes? What favors are the Sussexes trading to get these supportive posts? Why now?

And why don't any of the posts mention Archificial?

Comments

Suzanne Wilson said…
I don't know who this Pink person is, but if she, an ostensibly progressivist individual, seriously believes that the criticism of a couple of private-jet-traveling Royal pop stars is a more egregious example of public bullying than anything going on right here in her own country she is seriously out of touch.
I swear, if some people got their heads out of their asses the fresh air would kill them.

Trudy2 said…
That word again! Kind... it's one of Smeggy's faves, as we know. I used to think P!nk was pretty cool but she's plummeted way down in my estimation after this. I wonder how these celebs are going to save face when the truth comes out to the wider public?
Celebrities coming out enmass to support them... Clearly shows they are going the Hollywood way.
First Oprah. Then Ellen. And the pop stars. Next we'll be seeing them at the Oscars. And Metgala!

One could even venture a wild guess and say they want to pull off and Al Gore, make a documentary on climate change, and gun for Nobel Peace Prize for Harry. (This is a wild speculation, but something tells me this could very well happen in the next two years)
Seems like we can expect a lot of random celebrities to now jump on the bandwagon to appear woke, gain brownie points and get an in into the inner circle. It's the same thing that Mm used to do once upon a time after all.

Most wouldn't know that truth about them, not k kw ow how things work in the BRF/aristocracy/ England. Maybe the PR people are pulling some strings to get this going, reaching out to their contacts etc. We know a celebrity, esp well established stars wouldn't make a random move without consulting their managers/PR advisors.
But being politically outspoken is in right now, and the Sussexs have clearly made this political in a way.
bootsy said…
Celebs will flock to Meg as they mistakenly think that she is now in 'their' world. Which gets to the heart of the matter because Meghan is a Royal and not a celeb.

The idea of Royalty always rests on shaky ground because it is rooted in the idea that simply belonging to a certain family means you are designated to be a higher status human who should be respected, followed, looked up to and listened to. Simply because you are part of a family. That works quite well for many when this illusion is based on people who you can fool yourself into thinking they are better than yourself.

But until 2 years ago MM was a pretty actress appearing in a show that most people didn't watch. And in just 2 years we are somehow supposed to see MM as a person who must be looked up to, followed and respected because....what? She married Harry? She has pricked the artifice that is the Royal Family because her swift transformation into a Royal stretches the credibility on which it is based.

Kate had years of image making by the Press in order to maintain the illusion of being worthy to look up to and to follow. MM has appeared out of nowhere, and even worse is acting more like an old style Royal (looking down on others while living the high life) whilst she has done nothing to command such respect from others.

I think that this is the fundamental problem with MM. She simply isn't believable as being 'better than us' because only 2 years ago she was a divorced ageing actress with a dodgy family , with just one job on one Tv show. And all of a sudden we are supposed to bow and scrape and see her as someone to look up to and respect? Whilst at the same time being the most condescending hypocrite?
Oh dear.

I have said before though that MM might get away with it. We live in celeb culture now, and the same way that cr*p movies get away with being cr*p by claiming misogyny/racism on legitimate complaints, then MM might appeal to enough based on the followers of that line of thinking.

Time will tell!
Jen said…
P!ink....girl, please. We ARE being kind. There are a lot of nastier things that can be said about MM, and people are holding back. I can't believe she even got involved in this sh*tshow. UGH, this is why I can't stand celebrities. They think they have the right to preach.
Hikari said…
Bootsy,

I think time is already telling. Really, she showed her true colors to the entire watching world during the engagement interview, and they'd been engaged for all of five minutes. That is the length of time which Murkle can pretend to be the persona she has created for herself via paid PR and relentless self-promotion on SM. At the time of that cringe-inducing interview, in which she claimed that due to her Americanness and being so busy doing humanitarian work in Third World nations (which consisted in the main of being paid to pose for 'woke' looking photos with native children) that she had no idea who Harry was before their meet . . I chalked up her constant talking over Harry and clutching at him and the drivel she was spouting to nerves and her desire to make a good impression as she was about to join the world's oldest constitutional monarchy.

Well. We've all seen by now that any benefit of the doubt was misplaced. As soon as that ring was on her finger, she reverted to her true self, not that she was ever far away from it. I'm trying to imagine what demographic who isn't already in the tank for her would find either of the Harkles remotely appealing now after the summer sh*tshow of hypocrisy and fakery we've endured. I suppose most of the people who didn't already have her number prior to the 'Archie Mountbatten-Windsor Birth Tableau' were willing to accept her 'glowing new mum' story at face value. Some people even think that all the photos of Archie which we have (a paltry number) are actually unretouched in any way, God bless them.

But after the circus of events kicking off with Trooping the Colour in June up til now, I find it hard to believe that scads of new celebrities are rushing to Meg's banner *now*. A year ago, sure. Maybe even six months ago. But why have celebs as diverse as Sir Elton John, P!nk and Ellen de Generes coming out of the woodwork to embrace Megster at the height of her dipsomaniacal and very public F*ups?

I love this word . . Dipsomania means alcoholism, which is probably apt for someone so very fond of the Tig, but so much other stuff about this couple is 'dipso.' For Harry, I'd keep the 'dip' and add the English word for Elle's favorite expression. The 'maniac' part is all Megs.

The enduring mystery remains why the BRF have allowed things to get to this pass, and why they remain so silent while the Suxxits rampage merrily all over the globe leaving their non-carbon neutral footprints and thumbprints everywhere. The Suxxits + Andy's deep doo-doo with the Epstein mess has to equal a new Annus Horribilus for QEII to top the last one in 1992.

In 1992, Charles and Di split up and Windsor Castle, the Queen's favorite, had a devastating fire. I wonder if she looks back on those days with nostalgia. She imagined it would never get worse than 1992. She was wrong.
Lime_Smoothie said…
This isn't going well for them - BBC Radio 2 (most listened to station in the UK) have just had a phone in regarding private jets/lecturing others/'carbon offsetting' - it didn't go well for them.

Most of the newspapers have managed to get hold of the former head of Greenpeace, who said carbon offsetting is nonsense.

Pubic opinion is on edge at the moment, lots of families in the UK are struggling, and swanning about on private jets, then getting celebs to defend you is a poor look.

Clueless.
Hikari said…
We are encouraged to believe that the Suxxits' tour of Africa, announced these many months ago after the New Year is still happening. It's already out there that Meg plans to charge appearance fees everywhere she and Harry go. During an official Royal tour to Commonwealth nations on the world's poorest continent where millions are starving and dying of AIDS.

So much for Meg's humanitarian heart for Africa. Or Harry's for that matter. Haz turns up in Lesotho once a year or so to pet elephants, his sole charitable contribution, apart from playing polo matches in front of wealthy donors.

If Her Majesty actually lets them go to Africa and represent her this way, She will demonstrate that she's lost her marbles well and truly. Better to ship them off to Los Angeles where they can mingle with all those celebrities so eager to sing their praises on Twitter. I'm sure Ellen & Portia will be more than happy to put them up for a month or two, and after that they can shove off to P!nk and Cory's house before their next all-expenses paid private jet holiday at Elton & David's place.
abbyh said…
I see the celeb pattern as drawing near her, circling and then drifting away for a variety of reasons. At some point, she will run out of new ones who are willing to buddy up.

Currently, yeah, she presents as woke royal but there is an ever growing wake of crazy/not right/good blips following her that (we are aware of) but most are not. And who do you get after people like the Clooney's, Bey, O and Serena? Sure there are lots of A listers but ... I suspect they might talk to each other. They certainly have gatekeeper/handlers who look at situations/people before opening for a reach out. At some point, the doors close more than they open even if the connection is me with a royal.

P!nk? hmm, maybe Sara L has been working on this from her political connections?

Anonymous said…
Think of what it says about a celebrity's status when they have to cling to the sinking ship show* that is the Dumbartons.

*@Hikari, that one is for you :) LOL on "For Harry, I'd keep the 'dip' and add the English word for Elle's favorite expression."
Lilalee said…
First, I love Pink lol. She is an awesome singer and to be honest I’ll keep listening to her music as well as Elton John. I’ve loved his songs since the 70’s. Second, I am not understanding this sudden celebrity backup of this over inflated couple. What do these celebs expect from their adulation? H&M are obviously takers not givers given they’ve had two trips provided to them by A Listers. They haven’t even done anything worth being hailed for! They post sweet nothings on their IG account and show faceless pictures. What else have they done? So what, she wrote a forward for a cookbook. She didn’t sit in a kitchen for weeks on end formulating the recipes. What has Harry done? Gives speeches to the serfs not to take selfies at hot vacation spots? I have pictures of me ( before the selfie era) at major landmarks around the world and I value those memories!
I agree Suzanne that the celebs are the bullies as they have a pulpit to preach from. We the masses only voice are the social media outlets and when we call out hypocrisy, over spending and tax payer spending we are called the bullies! It’s an unfair medium!
Amzz Naylor said…
Great Post nutty. I am so gobsmacked how the royal family has plummeted in the publics opinion due to Prince Andrews perversions and crimes and meghan and harrys behavior. And what alarms me the most is if you try to put forth an opinion that shows them in a negative light you get called a racist and a bigot. I thinks it is something to be very concerned about. On twitter last night people who had commented on threads saying how this is hypocritical of them and that carbon offsetting is a load of rubbish had to deal with vicious comments like Britain is a trashy country and all British people are racist. They shut down legitimate arguments put forward with politically charged and vile comments. I have never been called a racist or a bigot in my life but over the last couple of months it is becoming a frequent and apparently acceptable insult. I do feel like the Queen is in a position where she is worried that's how the house of Windsor will be looked at if they try and deal with her in any way. I am starting to wonder what will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back...
Anonymous said…
Or the smart ones will watch, realize that public support of those two hypocrites is a one-way trip on the highway to hell, and then back slowly and quietly away a la George. I think it's pretty telling that the Dumbartons had to "explain" why they weren't spending the Mrs.'s birthday with the Clooneys (esp given their actual travel choices.)
bootsy said…
Hi Hikari,
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

Whilst I agree with your points, I wonder whether the average person is as well informed as you! How many people would have seen their engagement interview and her assertion that she 'had no idea who he was.' To be honest I didn't see it myself until a few months ago. It's not people like us that MM has to win over, it's the more casual observers who will only see the headlines and not the more detailed stuff,. Those are the people she is appealing to, along with the offense brigade who she mobilises whenever any deserved critiscism comes her way (it's because she's mixed race/a woman/not English/etcetc).

I'm on your side. I would really like the British public to see her for what she is but I'm not as confident as you that they will. This is the country where 6 million people watched Love Island...
Lilalee said…
I think Meghan is basking in the celebrity adulation she is getting right now and it’s all she ever wanted. She can care less about the bad press or even us on the message boards and twitter. She almost reminds me of Sally Fields when she won the Oscar for Places in the Heart. She went on stage and said “ You like me, you really, really like me”. It is all about acceptance on the Hollywood stage. Meghan wants to be a star at any cost. The fact that these celebrities are coming forward like this is giving her the credibility in that arena she so desires. I hate to say she is a creation of her own workings and she is winning. Unless the RF does something she will win in the end. Sad but true.
Girl with a Hat said…
I see a big change coming in the world. People are tired of the very wealthy and the famous preaching to us, while not living up to their own diktats. Also, people are sick and tired of the wealth disparity. We are told to include various ethnicities into our societies, but the rich never include us in their wealth.

Look at the backlash that Harry and Meghan have triggered. Elton John had the same reaction. While it's true that Elton is an odious person who has been accused of sexual harassment of his staff, his pronouncements were not well received.

In today's Daily Mail, there's an article about 150 CEOs saying that their goal is to improve the world, not make money. They sense that the tide has turned.

Meghan and Harry and their PR teams haven't, however. They still think that people give credence to the celebrity pronouncements the way they used to. If they were so "woke", they would understand that things are changing quickly, but they aren't.
Lilalee said…
Thank you. The Sussex title is given at the pleasure of the monarch and can be taken away. Off topic, sorry, but I mentioned this on another message board. How can they copyright the Sussex name? In the States copyrights are good for 70 years. If the Sussex title dies out with Archie (if he has no sons) and 50/60 years from now a monarch gives their child the title (York title changed hands within that time span) are they now in contempt of copy right laws? I may be mistaken on this though. I’m not sure if it’s the name Sussex or SussexRoyal that is copyrighted. But it still bugs me the have a copyrighted to brand themselves with a name that they do not own !
Lilalee said…
Hikari, I think back to the Queens “Annus horribilis” often. By the 2000’s I always thought she looked the happiest I had ever seen her. She had a smile I’ve never seen from her before. I always thought that she finally was in a good place with her family. I have to admit this Andrew stuff has to be giving her heartache. It’s her son. Maybe she believed him maybe she doesn’t. But she still loves him. And now there is Harry going outside of the royal circles to be famous. As much as Meghan is a nuisance, it’s Harry she is concerned with as it’s her grandchild. As much as she was a hands off mother it is obvious she loves her family and they are tight knit.
Back in the day no one in the family went against the Queen. Diana learned that early on. The Queen and PP were to be feared. I think now that they are on with age Harry is pushing the envelope big time. He is backing on Charles support at the risk of both the Queen and William. But William is key in all of this. He is the future. He will more likely have a longer reign than Charles. Even if Charles reigns to his 90’s their is George, Charlotte and Louis to come in right behind. My point is they are alienating the wrong people if they want support. I’m sorry, I’m going on a babbling rant here. Lol. They just infuriate me so much that they created this mess so quickly. At least it was quite a few years before the Charles/Diana and Andrew/Fergie dramas. Their was a fairytale period for both of them.
Beth said…
Hikari, I agree that the engagement interview really did show her true colors. I found it a very uncomfortable watch. Not only the ludicrous claim that she didn't know anything about the BRF but in discussing how long they had been together, she looked at Harry and said, "It's been what, 2 years?" to which Harry responded "A year and a half." As if she didn't know down to the exact second when they had started dating. Also, when asked how they met she cut Harry's response off with, "We have to protect her privacy." Who knows the truth about how and under what circumstances they met and I think she would like to keep it that way. Nothing about her is genuine and it's hard to believe what she says is anything other than spin and self-promotion. The control freakery is epic and she will insist on driving the bus or there will be a gigantic meltdown. Gird your loins, Harry.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think the celeb culture is a dying trend.
PaulaMP said…
I think having all these Hollywood types preaching for H and M is ultimately going to backfire. In my mind it all started with Kapernick taking a knee and the average American thinking it was an insult to our country and the servicemen and women who fought for it. Next was all the same Hollywood people ranting about how the rest of us were doing it all wrong, we should be voting for Hillary and taking all of their hypocritcal advice about giving up guns and letting illegals into the country, meanwhile spouting all of this behind their gated houses and protected by their own armed security squads. Add to this the ridiculous Google "green" meet up. People stopped watching award shows, stopped going to all of their movies, many of them stopped going to professional sports games. If you followed the comments in the DM you could see the tide turning and that's how someone like Trump got elected. It will be interesting to see how this turns out because it's clear as a bell that the Brits are not buying what the Royals are selling any more and questioning if there needs to be a monarchy.
Girl with a Hat said…
good point about Kapernick. I see people rebelling and you're right about the NFL attendance levels dropping because of him.

Harry and Meghan are trying to ride this wave, but the tide has turned. LOL
Now! said…
Personally, I'm eager to see who will be the next celebrity the Sussexes will enlist to send out a social media post that sounds exactly like Meghan wrote it herself. (Which she may have done)

They generally settle for celebrities with the cringe factor, like Elton John. (P!nk is an outlier, I think - she has an audience, it's just not Meg's audience.)

The rapper 50 Cent would be a good choice. He hasn't had a hit in decades and nobody respects him.

Mel Gibson? Kristen Stuart? Cuba Gooding Jr.? Rita Ora? Jaden Smith?

All people who the Sussexes would probably be better off without, although they'd be too tin-eared to realize that.

Alec Baldwin? James Charles? Hilary Clinton?
Now! said…
Get woke, go broke.
Kat said…
I guess all the planted articles about being the Queen's favorite weren't working at all. Now she's paying celebrities to defend her.
I was sideeyeing Elton John trying to take the blame for the private jet. I can only imagine he wants to project some sort of connection to Diana still and since William isn't here to play games then Harry and the Social Climber will do.
I just can't imagine what Ellen gains from this.
As for Pink I hope the check cleared before she posted that tweet. It read more like one of MMs posts then her own.
This is just a mess. Eventually they will run out of A/B list stars to pay for support. At that point it'll have to be the Instagram Influencers and Reality Show stars.
bootsy said…
I forgot to say one more thing Hikari!
I completely agree that the most interesting thing in all this is the fact that no one seems to be doing anything to stop what is going on. We have all assumed that there is some sort of control mechanism, a plan, a way of being called to account if you stray too far from the party line.
Instead what we're seeing is a total vacuum where MM and Harry can do what they want, make the Royal family look bad, and there is nothing to stop them!

If you think about it, what mechanism could there be? The Queen/Prince Charles/Prince William call a meeting say to stop being an idiot. Don't do this this and this, do that instead.
And Harry and MM say "nope sorry we're doing this this and this instead." What's stopping them-PR leaks? Realistically there is no way of stopping them at all!
Girl with a Hat said…
sage14 tweets that there has been a deal between Elton and the Sux excesses and that this will be reported soon. I wonder what it could be? They started a surrogate agency?
Hikari said…
We can only speculate about what Charles thinks of his latter-born son and the daughter-in-law he calls 'Tungsten'. Charles is, I feel, not given enough credit for wit, but he's got it. 'Tungsten' was not a compliment. It's as close as a well-bred gentleman can get to an insult in public. As 'Unknown' observed on the Charles thread, "Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG) welding is a popular type of welding that utilizes tungsten electrodes to join various metals... so the theory was, when PC google TIG (her stupid lifestyle thingy), that's what came up... and that thought made me smile. Just a little inside prickle under the required austere indifference."

Charles takes a lot of flak for being more Woodstock Generation in personality than taking after his hard-as-nails Greatest Generation parents. Chas *is* the Woodstock Generation, having come of age in 1969. Had he been born to a pipefitter and a hairdresser and been called 'Charlie' at his local comprehensive, he may well have embraced the whole hippie lifestyle, look and philosophy. As the Crown Prince of Great Britain, he could not follow his inclinations in all areas, but I actually consider Chas to be something of a Renaissance man within his family. The first heir to graduate university, his interests are wide-ranging. Botany and painting watercolours are his chief delights (besides daily cocktail hour with Camilla that to appearances starts shortly after 12pm) . . but I think he knows a bit about chemistry and enough about welding to have made that pun based on his daughter-in-law's much-discussed blog.

Someone on the same thread also commented that tungsten is a hard, unyielding substance, but its greatest strength is also its greatest weakness--rings made of tungsten are prone to shattering when hit at the right pressure points due to their inflexibility and complete lack of give.

I think Chas was aware of these properties of tungsten when he christened Megs with the nickname. He was with the Dumbartons for part of the Oceania tour, and it was he that had to tell Meg in no uncertain terms that she absolutely was NOT getting a tiara Fed Ex'ed to Tonga from London for a dinner. The fact that this nickname of Tungsten then found its way into the media is the BRF equivalent of throwing down the gauntlet, to my thinking.

Hikari said…
For all that he is allegedly Meg's #1 ally within the Royal Family (apart from HM and PP of course, who 'adore' Meg so much her invitation to her own deluxe birthday party at Balmoral has been misplaced in the post for the second year running) . . . what evidence have we that Charles is even on speaking terms with the Dumbartons? Compare Chas's joyful interaction with William's kids during the family photo shoot last summer for his birthday to Fauxchie's christening photo, the only image we have of the Cornwall grandparents with the baby. Let's say it like it is: Charles and Camilla have never been in the same room with Archie, since that photo was a fake. Where are the snaps of a visit with the baby at Clarence House or Highgrove? No invitations were forthcoming to the Dum-Dums to stay with 'Pa' during the 'Fraudmore renovations'. Chas is no doubt at Balmoral for the month of August, the Royal version of 'the Happiest Place on Earth'. The silence from the Prince of Wales is deafening regarding his newest 'grandchild' or anything his second son and floozy wife get up to.

Inaction? Or proof that Harry has been disowned completely? One does not comment on what does not exist, be it Archie or a non-existent relationship with the son who reminds Charles too uncomfortably of his erratic and glory-seeking mother? Harry has torched all the bridges within his family and is too careless to see what his future is going to be like when Smegs leaves him . . after she and he have drained the trust fund left for Haz by Diana.

Shades of the Duke of Windsor, who at least retained his wife, the source of his banishment, until his death. Megsie isn't going to stick around that long.

The Royals who do the most for the Firm show themselves the least, do you notice that? Between them, Anne, Charles and Camilla do the lion's share of all Royal appearances, and yet they are hardly heard from or seen in the media. Compare this reticence, which given that Chas is going to ascend in less than two years, is notable--you'd think the heir would be more visible--with the incessant saturation of media coverage for Royals who do sod-all for the Firm except set charges to blow it up bit by bit . . .the Suxxits . . now Andrew.

It really makes me wonder what the future holds.
Anonymous said…
Yes, @Hikari, as tungsten becomes harder, it also becomes more brittle and easily cracks or breaks under pressure. I would imagine that Chas was referring to that quality although I guess it is possible that he and Camilla are avid welders, secretly donning the gauntlets and bibs, taking up the torches at Birkhall. I like that idea actually.
JL said…
Racism is the current insult du jour. It’s being hurled so often and without forethought that it has become meaningless.
JL said…
You are right Mischi. People don’t want to be lectured by the wealthy. Hasn’t Nutty said Markle is stuck in the nineties, even the aughts. She is still trying to emulate Angelina Jolie!!! A woman widely detested today foe her hypocrisy and manipulation of the plebs.
JL said…
Nutty—perfect
JL said…
Also to continue Nutty’s trope about being stuck in the past. I believe the overpaid Sarah Latham is another one. All her failed PR efforts (like enlisting celebrity endorsements) may have worked in another era, but all they do today is enrage the public even more.
hardyboys said…
It doesn't give them any more credibility bc celebrities are endorsing the Sussex brand. If that's the case how come they get annihilated daily for her clothes her baby holding private jets vogue covers...whatever Ellen oprah beyonce serena Amal Clooney are doing to boost them ain't working. They are DM fodder and I love it. The comments on DM aren't as fun as they used to be but it still makes for excellent comic relief. They literally have Michelle Obama endorsing her. It doesn't get any higher than that. The Queen of England also publically sort of endorsing her. What's next the Emperor of Japan? The Pope? They get lambasted daily and I love it. If it weren't for their daily hypocritical lavish choices there would be no nutty flavour blog and no DM comments and that would not be fun! 💖💖💖
Hikari said…
@Bootsy,

The Queen lost her advantage way back in November 2017 when she approved the engagement & forced Eugenie to postpone her wedding for 5 months to make way for the Dumbartons. Though perhaps when it was pointed out to Eugenie that May 19th marks the historical anniversary of Anne Boleyn's beheading, and Gene agreed the parallels were so delicious, the date should go to the Dum-Dums. After only three years as Henry's Queen, a position she and her family schemed for 10 years and kicked off the Protestant Reformation to achieve, Anne lost her position and her head when she failed abjectly to live up to her own PR and her red-headed prince with a very short attention span and more ego than self-restraint or spirituality grew bored with her. And he another 'Henry', forsooth! And anyway, October weddings are lovely, too, and we will always have the video of Eugenie looking radiant in the emerald tiara!

Still, HM never should have approved this wedding, particularly if Smegs was strong-arming her by crying another phantom pregnancy in order to lock Harry down into matrimony. Until the birth of Louis, Harry needed the sovereign's permission to marry. ER could have, and should have withheld that permission. Megsy wanted to play the race card? My feeling is, if the race card is the only weapon she's got, let her lob it. So what? This is a woman who denied her own black heritage altogether . . and we've got it in writing on her call sheets. Meg identified as white and dated/married only white men. Bought herself white hair. She only rediscovered her black roots in occasional paid pieces for fashion magazines & oh, yeah, circa 2017 when she moved in with Harry and realized that being biracial was her ace in the hole for Teflon protection.

So what? Her Majesty has weathered far worse than being called racist on Twitter by dimwits. Like losing her beloved father at 25 years old. Or Suez, the IRA and the fallout from Diana's death. Duck, water. Instead, they seem to have caved in to Meg's threats and now they are paying the price.

It's now clear that the photos of the Nice trip, the airport pap pbotos,were planned and planted. They had been invited by Elton John and they wanted that to be made public. So this was a very carefully orchestrated PR stunt... The public shaming and Elton defending them. Ellen has recently been mentioned in the post, and we were all waiting to see what next would happen on that front.

Also, and this is speculation , but Pink is supposedly friend with Ellen. So maybe that's why she chimed in. Using the network of a supposed friend is what the Sussexs are now aiming for. And I'm Hollywood, Ellen seems to be friends with most people, her brand is friendly, approachable, relatable, goofy, sensitive. So why not tap into that?!
Hikari said…
As for the 'mechanism' to stop the Sussexes, it's the same one that started them in the first place: the money. It's always been about the money and the prestige for Megs. HM gave the couple a huge lavish church wedding televised round the world, with the bronzer-fied, middle-aged and twice-divorced former prostitute in virgin white with 22-foot hand-embroidered train. In short, everything Smegs wanted. ER could have shaped an entirely different narrative:

a) If she's pregnant, then by all means, We must get you married ASAP! Due to the bride's delicate condition, it will be a small, private affair at a registry office. I suggest Gretna Green. Your PPOs can be the witnesses and We will let you have Balmoral for a month for a nice quiet honeymoon."

How urgently preggers do we suppose Megs would have been when presented with this? I suspect the next day, she would have 'lost the baby'.

b) "Oh, you had a miscarriage last night? How sad for you, dear. Well, life must go on, mustn't it? Here's the deal: no church wedding unless you two delay it by a full year and attend premarital counseling every week. I will be receiving written reports from the Archbishop as to your attendance and progress. If neither of these are satisfactory, no wedding. The registry office offer still holds. If you balk at these conditions, it's registry office or nothing. I will not move Eugenie's wedding . . take it or leave it."

How long do we suppose it would have taken Megs to 'leave it'? Deprived of her Princess Bride fantasy immediately, and forced to fulfill uncomfortable conditions in which aspects of her past would come to light before she could rush her Dimbulb DumWit to the altar, she'd have F*ed off and tried to make a go of it with some reality show contestant or footballer . . somebody with the dosh to buy her jewelry but without so many strings attached.

What a terrible pity that QEII, once a figure of fear and awe within her family didn't play hardball when it mattered.

Oh, by the way, I don't know if y'all saw this but Cressida Bonas is engaged to another bloke named Harry. I hope our Earl of DumbasF*ck is eating out what's left of his heart. Cressie is really lovely and would have made a regal Duchess, seeing as she grew up in aristocratic circles and knows how to comport herself. She must have loved Harry once, which is more than I can say for Meg-dusa.

How does HM control the Suxxits? 1. Revoke any funding from the Crown, including grace and favor housing. They are not living in Fraudmore and can continue to not live there permanently. 2. Revoke the Sussex title. Issue a statement that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have expressed their wish to live as private citizens and focus on their philanthropic work apart from the Crown. Harry will live off the money his mother left him and they can go live wherever they like and merch what they like and see how many celebrity friends they can collect/hold onto as free agents. They can do exactly as they like, according to their expressed wishes, but as private celebrities, not as representatives of the Crown. Fauxchie has not been officially recognized by anyone at BP or the Royal family as a legitimate heir to the succession or even as a living child so it doesn't matter where he goes.
JL said…
They are international grifters just like the Wallis Simpsons. Harry doesn’t have the financial means to satisfy Markel’s pathologically narcissistic need to be an A+ celebrity. He is forced to call in favors and free rides and his only apparent job is feeding The Meg’s monstrous ego. What is he getting out of this? Was his ego so puny and wounded? Is it her magic sex skills? All at the expense of his own family. Has he been such a monstrous brat that now he is eating his karma?
Hikari said…
I think there has to be a scorched earth policy from the Queen. Her Majesty giveth; she can taketh away. Revoke the Sussex title and effectively kill 'the brand'. No more merching off the Royal connection; no more SussexRoyal. They can call it "Meg & Harry's Page'. Since Hazard and Meglodon have made it plain that they revile royal duties and in fact take a Dumbarton all over them at every opporunity, they should be released from the working royals pool. Along with the titles, the HRHs and the Crown money. Meglodon is so talented at generating income from merching, let her have at it to her heart's content--but NOT via usage of any Duchess HRH Sussex branding.

This is the cost of their freedom to pursue that carbon-neutral Hollywood celeb lifestyle.

But she's a mother!!! cry the sugars. What of Archie????

Well, let Meghan produce Archie, in broad daylight, and show him to us both awake and alive, as a real child and we will go from there. She can't, because she doesn't have a baby. Moot point.
Louise said…
Veena: I agree that DM comments are not as witty as they used to be.

I used to post there myself, but I didn't expect, when it began, that this story would be endless and I have no more energy. I imagine that this is the case for many posters.

Maybe the plan is to wear down the critics.
hildarumpole said…
Harry goes to Google Camp and suddenly celebrity "friends" are flocking to their defense and providing free vacation packages. Weird. What kind of deals were hashed out between movers and shakers and barefoot Harry on the beach?
Lottie said…
Pink I think teaching your children not to be hypocrites is also a valuable lesson

People in general aren't bullying MM & PH although some are angry and rightly so.
Others are offering constructive criticism or showing them that what they say and do are in complete juxtaposition
It is becoming more and more obvious that if you don't agree with the Sussex's then you are branded a bully or worse still a racist.
I think a clever celebrity would stay out of this self inflicted mess because lets face it, they also are all guilty of living excessive lifestyles using huge amounts of carbon much like MM & PH

The end is near , i can hear the death rattle
Tin Hatter said…
From your lips to God's ears, Mischi!
Tin Hatter said…
Hilda, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Tin Hatter said…
If I had time and connections, I'd see who is repping Elton, Ellen and Pink. And then I'd watch what future projects launch and how those connections worked. You know they're getting something for it. And yes, totally agree that Pink's post was more Meg's voice than hers.
Lilalee said…
Agree JL. Which is why I do not understand the A listers support of them. They are obviously takers and not givers. Two separate flights paid for by celebrities? What is there for Harry and Meghan to give in return? Someone posted earlier that there seems to be a business transaction of some kind between the Sussexes and Elton. That will be interesting. Along the same lines as Disney? I think Hikari is right that the Queen can’t put a stop to what is happening but she can stop the flow of finances. Take their titles away, and tell them they can no longer use SussesRoyal as their brand name as it no longer belongs to them. Have them announce they want to be private citizens to work on their philanthropy. Let the just be Prince Harry and Mrs. (or even Lady) Mountbatten- Windsor.
Hikari said…
@Elle,

I wouldn't underestimate the damage that Camilla could do to Tungsten with a blowtorch. The first thing to go will be the weave.

My (torch) burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends—
It gives a lovely light!
--with apologies to E. St. Vincent Millay

Smegs is definitely in Camilla's 'Foes' column. Cam has read Chas the riot act about being forced to share a carriage with the gate-crasher at TOC. Bet that won't be happening again.

No doubt Chas's knowledge of welding is more theoretical than practical . . I'm sure they didn't have welding class at Gordonstoun . . but as somebody with a keen interest in sustainable architecture, Charles has probably encountered a little bit about the subject. He may have even toured a manufacturing facility in goggles and hat.

As I write this, it's 8pm in Scotland, and Chas is tucking into a hearty supper after a full day of deer-stalking, I suppose. Trying not to think about welding or hard metals or anything to do with his progeny and the disaster Harry has brought upon the family. After din dins, he and Camilla will share a fifth of Glenfiddich and then it's off to bed to rest up for tomorrow's day on the moors, fleeing the spectre of what awaits him when he gets back to London.
Lurking said…
I'm so tired of the term "bullying" being thrown around. Calling someone out for their hypocrisy is not bullying. If you are incapable of understanding why there's a backlash against these 2 grifters, the problem is you, not those calling them out.

Nothing is done in the entertainment industry without an expectation of compensation of some sort. Question is, are the celebs being paid outright or do they expect a bit of polish to their image, buzz, access to new a networking circle, and ultimately lucrative deals? The odd celeb out here is P!nk. Out of nowhere, she comments. What's in it for her?

The other thing that occurred to me, is that all these jet-setting celebrities probably don't think anything is wrong with it. In their minds, they aren't polluting as much as the evil corporations. Purchase a few carbon offsets here, a few carbon offsets there, and it's all good in their minds.

Another thing... it's a rallying cry to let every jet-setting celebrity off the hook. If Smeg & Mr. Smeg aren't held accountable, then no one should be held accountable... unless you're one of the little people, then you should change your lifestyle to save the planet.

The quote from Desmond Tutu is the worst. Are they so blatantly un-self-aware? Is there something else going on? Do they suffer from delusions of grandeur and consider themselves some sort of saviors to which doing little things doesn't apply?
Anonymous said…
Could be :)

I do not see any way that QEII could have refused to allow a grown man to marry. The blow back from that would have been horrible. Putting foot down and forbidding works when someone is a child (sometimes), but it would have been deadly. At the point he decided he was marrying this trollop, the BRF was stuck and needed to go with slow-acting poison. Forbidding adults to marry and otherwise keeping true love apart would not play well regardless, but throw in racism and you've got toxic stew. That is why this is taking so long.
Hikari said…
1. Are they so blatantly un-self-aware? Yes, they really, really are. Blows the mind.

2. Is there something else going on? So many possibilities. Joint drug psychosis? Congenital stupidity? Could be anything with these two.


3. Do they suffer from delusions of grandeur and consider themselves some sort of saviors to which doing little things doesn't apply? Yep. Harry wasn't this bad before he hooked up with her, but her malignancy feeds all his worst and weakest traits of character.

I have a vision of Hazza as Professor Quirrel, the weak wizard whose every move and thought was governed by Voldemort growing in the back of his head. If I had any artistic talent, I would draw it, but maybe one of you can run with that and post it on Tumblr. Meg is the Voldemort parasite sucking Harry's will and pulling his strings.

Haz was weak on his own, but aimless and mostly just a harmless douche. Combined with the brains behind the Sussex outfit, he's morphed into a real toxic butthole. There's no coming back from this; it's gone too far. If he's been disowned by Charles and William both, he may as well forget about ever patching things up.
Anonymous said…
That's a very American approach. I'm not sure that it works in this situation. I stand by slow-acting poison for which there is no antidote. It takes longer, sure, but with markle, it must be the figurative stake thru the heart (or whatever organ she has that serves a similar purpose.)
Anonymous said…
Are we sure Lord G didn't ask Elton to make this statement lol? The outrage is growing. Also, Pink - what she said about William, calling him a "hillbilly from the South" for hunting foxes? If these "celebrities" weren't hand-picked by Lord G, they sure as hell could have been.
Lime_Smoothie said…
Channel 4 in the UK are currently showing a major three part documentary series, focusing on royal scandals, including the last Prince Henry and Edward/Mrs. Simpson. Interesting timing. MM would do well to watch it, to see what awaits.

Monarchy is not celebrity. Monarchy is survival and continuity of lineage. For someone supposedly so well educated, she doesn't appear to have bothered with history books.
Girl with a Hat said…
what? she called William a hillbilly? that is rude and not PC!
Tin Hatter said…
I'll be really honest, I vomit a little in my mouth every time I hear someone say "kind" or "kindness". Way to ruin a word, Meg.
Tin Hatter said…
YES!! I always thought of Harry as harmless dumb@ss until he hooked up with Meg. Now he's got Rasputin whispering in his ear, and we can only hope it doesn't lead to the end of another dynasty.
Tin Hatter said…
Here's the thing about being in the public spotlight. If you are going to stand on a soapbox, you should expect to be criticized for it, especially if you're being hypocritical about it. And, given that you're being supported by taxpayers' dollars, you really can't have it both ways.

Now, if they were trotting out real photos of a real Archie, and he had some kind of deformity, or people were just mocking him for being an ugly baby, then by all means, let's have a conversation about bullying. First, show us the real baby.
hildarumpole said…
Hillbilly William? From the South? Slapping a member of the BRF and a whole region of Americans in one swoop. That's not kind. A non-woke celebrity should #P!nk about bullying and being cool. Maybe Dean Cain or John Rich.
hildarumpole said…
That's the heart of the problem with some of these celebrities, and that includes the Harkles. Too many of them live in a celebrity bubble, flitting about with like-minded others, isolated from real people in the real world. These bubbleheads think they are doing everyone a favor, saving us all from ourselves with their special wisdom. Then they complain about bullying when they're, rightly, called out for their hypocrisy and shallowness. They can blather on about compassion and kindness all they want, but if it doesn't match deeds, no one is going to buy it.
Hikari said…
No, I wasn't suggesting she forbid the *marriage* . . . Just the huge blowout televised White Wedding Show with preachers and gospel choirs and celebrities whom the bride had never met but wished to cultivate imported all the way from America. It was in the books that Harry had to get her approval to marry while he was still 5th in line, which he did, and it was duly given. At her age, Lilibet has no desire to repeat the Margaret-Group Capt. Townsend situation and appear churlish, or heavens forfend, racist.

However, she was under no obligation to foot the bill for an obscenely expensive Royal Wedding Event in such haste for a bride who was not even her subject and an only hastily confirmed (yeah, like that really took) member of the Anglican Church. Denying Meghan's Wedding of Dreams would have had nothing to do with racism and everything to do with a few other very pressing factors: the couple was hardly well established, having dated long distance for about a year or less (depends on whether we consider them to be broken up between December 2016 or before and sometime after the Inskip wedding) . .and even more to the point, the bride was a divorcee. Elizabeth was forced by rules of the church to deny her own son and heir an Anglican church wedding the second time because he had been divorced. Yet somehow the iron-clad rule that did not bend for the heir to the Crown was waived for Tungsten. Nor did ER attend Charles's second wedding, but there she was, front row center for her grandson's sham nuptials to a divorced and used-up American showgirl/playmate.

Talk about a double standard. The spectre of 'racism' sure is powerful for a monarch who is the living embodiment of subjugation of colonial peoples, isn't it?

Hikari said…
My suggestion was that Elizabeth should have tested the sincerity of the bride-to-be's intentions toward her grandson by requiring them to delay the big church wedding until they knew each other better and had demonstrated their commitment to each other with the aid of spiritual guidance. She was already permitting them to cohabit in Frog Cott (which was also her call, since she owns Harry's home and is allowed to set the conditions by which he is allowed tenancy), so delaying their proposed wedding by another 6 months shouldn't have been a great hardship to a sincerely committed couple.

Harry may come before Eugenie in the pecking order, but HM created bad feeling unnecessarily by forcing Eugenie and Jack to vacate the date they had been planning for what, over a year? As I suggested also, if Harry's fiancee was claiming that she was pregnant, all the more reason for a speedy and very modest wedding that need not have interfered with Eugenie's plans.

I guess I have far less patience than you for the 'slow acting poison' route. Is Elizabeth Regina the Sovereign of Great Britain and thus in charge of calling all the shots or is she only some timorous little old granny afraid to say 'no' to her appallingly behaved grandson and his demanding American wh*re? It was generous of her to give Harry a wedding at all considering how he's behaved his whole life. He's not *entitled* to anything--Granny is the Ultimate candy machine that decides what he and his bint get, from tiaras to wedding venues to any of it. What's happened to the Elizabeth unafraid to take an unpopular stand because she was following the dictates of her conscience? She *is* Brittania . . but how diminished Brittania has become, if a snotty American nobody can tell the Queen how to run her business.

True love . . that's a good one! I know that's the narrative they were spinning, but the whole world now knows that before their six month anniversary they were sleeping apart and not speaking. True love didn't last very long.

ER wouldn't have been forbidding the marriage of two hearts if she'd declined to move Eugenie's wedding or declined to spend so much money and pomp on the joining of two very minor royals. Harry's nuptials should have been more in keeping with those of Edward and Sophie, given that the bride was not even a subject. Marriage and a huge show wedding are really two separate entities--one is a spiritual estate and the other courts personal attention, TV exposure, carriage rides and mountains of wedding gifts and face time for Hollywood stars.

All of these racism claims and the tears and the drama and the lies and the massive overspending and the negative press over hypocrisy and carbon footprints and phantom babies and phantom renovations could have been entirely avoided if Her Majesty had just made it a bit more arduous for Megster to get a clawhold into the family, is my point. She laid down and let Harry and Meghan have everything all their own way, at the expense of everyone else and she's got to live with the consequences.

Is Harry really a grown man? Chronologically, he is, but mentally, emotionally and in every way else that matters, he's a petulant child holding his entire family emotionally hostage. He needs to be committed along with his capricious evil spouse.

I don't believe the BRF is 'stuck' except by their own ineptitude.
Lime_Smoothie said…
Tin Hatter has nailed it - we accept some of the 'celeb' trappings that the Royals have, including designer clothing, multiple homes, foreign travel. But we are also keenly aware that we are paying for this soap opera, and we have expectations.

Work, either privately, or relentlessly for charity/good causes. Smile for pictures, turn up to important events, and damn well conduct yourself with some dignity. British public opinion is fickle, and once the tide has turned against you, that's it.

The film 'The Queen' fairly accurately depicts the events of August 1997, as I remember them. The public were furious that the royals had not conducted themselves appropriately around the mourning period for Diana, and suddenly opinion polls were showing an uptick in support for a Republic. It has taken years to rebuild public trust, and now this Kardashian wannabe is going to unravel it all, unless someone gets a grip.
Hikari said…
So you keep saying but so far the slow-acting poison only appears to be working on us, the long-suffering public. I pity the British public; my saving grace in this sh*t show is that I am not a subject of the Queen nor a British taxpayer and only have to watch this horror show at a remove. But I'm aghast at how the HarkleFarkles have been permitted to tarnish the reputation of the Royal Family in only a year. They aren't the only sources of tarnishment, of course--maybe the Dum-Dums high profile hedonism and tone-deaf remarks and private jet-setting are minor annoyances to BP considering what's going on with Andrew. But the fact remains that while the likes of you and I are pouring our hearts out in social media asking "Why???" and chugging Maalox by the gallon, Hazmat and Meglodon are enjoying holidays in the South of France with Sir Elton John and other luxury accommodations. We've got acid reflux but no sign yet that the slow dripping poison is doing its work on the intended target.

I put my hand up to being guilty as charged over being an American, so I suppose an American approach would be my default setting--however, is a direct request in *any* circumstance to be deemed too American and therefore too gauche to be within the purview of the Royals? People all over the world regardless of nationality are clamoring for a proper look at Archie. Apart from one picture of extremely dubious provenance, there has been zero public acknowledgement from the Queen that she has a new great grandbaby. The certainty that the RF is actively colluding with Meghan and Harry to cover up malfeasance/fraud relating to this baby is impossible to ignore any longer.

The Sussexes do not return value on investment. I wouldn't have thought expecting them to adhere to the standards of behavior for being Royals and penalizing them for non-compliance would be considered 'too American' in the context--this is a very British way. The Queen is acting very like an overindulgent and possibly deaf dumb and blind American grandparent in not reigning in the Harkles. Very unlike herself, in fact.

It's time to make Harry and his unfortunate choice in spouse either put up or ship out. Play cricket according to the rules of the game or they're benched. The alternative is subsidizing those two tossers for life . . if they are sent to Africa and behave this badly, there's going to be a revolt. It seems mascochistic of ER to expect any proper behavior or useful work out of this couple. Cutting them loose is giving them their hearts' desire . . at least so they say.

I don't know if you and I are going to live long enough to see the results of the slow-acting poison. Look how long Margaret lived despite her debauched lifestyle. This could take decades to sort out. At least the length of King Charles's reign, however long that may be. I don't think I've got the stamina, quite frankly.

Attempting to procure a black market baby after carrying a plastic doll around in public to defraud the entire world . . if these are big enough items to qualify as poison enough . . what will be? There's already footage of her tossing salad for Epstein's cronies out there . . will that be enough? Doubtful. If she was hired to entertain on Epstein's yachts, she is guilty of prostitution, but she was over 21 and just one of any number of other 'entertainers'. She wasn't highly placed enough in that world to have any power and in fact could claim that she was victimized, too.

Short of video showing her smothering Archie or Harry in their sleep . . I feel we are doomed to endure this woman until their money runs out and that could be a long, long time.

Jen said…
You know how sometimes celebrities are sent the exact words to say when they are merching? That's kind of how I feel in this instance, Latham or Megs herself, sent Pink what to say. She cut and pasted.
Hikari said…
P!nk calling William a Southern hillbilly?? My, that's rich coming from the tatted up motocross moll of Doylestown, Pennsylvania with her high school education and her children with such 'woke' names as Sage and Moon and her songs full of expletives. When I think of the word 'classy', Pink's face sure doesn't come to mind.

This is a shame, though, because I liked Pink and her songs until now. Afraid I can't respect her any more after this. As for Ellen, I dismissed her years ago as in any way relevant to how I choose to spend my entertainment time.

I still like Sir Elton's songs, but some of the warm glow I felt toward him after watching Rocketman has dissipated and he's back to being the histrionic Queen of victimology again. I thought he had made progress, but a leopard(print) really can't change his spots in his 70s. At least he has a tenuous connection to Harry through Diana. I have no clue what the other ladies get out of being on #TeamMeghan. #TeamMeghan is only good for Meghan and everyone else gets trampled.
Jen said…
What a serious question to ask anybody who would like to respond. I know that Harry has come out and talked about the environment, and pretty much put himself out there to be a total douche about our carbon footprint. When it all comes down to it though, do you think that they would really be able to fly commercial?

I know that it's done all the time by other celebrities, but I just wonder if they would be more trouble on a commercial flight then it's worth. He is still a member of a royal family, any very well-known member of the Royal Family. I honestly would not be able to pick Princess Anne out of a lineup, but I know who Harry is. It just seems like that would be a security nightmare. Just my two cents.

Thoughts?
Hikari said…
This whole thing is turning out to be the Diana Debacle 2.0, and how ironic that Harry is at the center of it once again. Meg is channelling Diana in a fashion but not in the way she thinks.

It's been 22 years to the month that QEII got her first taste of what it was like to be criticized harshly by her people, and to have her hands-off, emotionally reticent governing style questioned and deemed not only insufficient, but damaging.

Well, Lilibet, it's happening again. As a 93-year-old, she doesn't have the stomach for another go-round . . .but if she does not act, it's only going to get worse, and maybe this time the people will win their call for a Republic. There is even less deference and patience with the meritocracy of monarchy than there was in 1997.

The cure this time is the same as the last time: a painful but antiseptic frank address directly to the people, admitting that mistakes were made, the mood of the people was misjudged and for that hearty apologies are offered.

I actually understood and sympathized with Elizabeth's desire to hunker down at Balmoral and shield her grandsons from the full brunt of their terrible loss.

This current crisis is very different, though, as it relates directly to frauds and lies being perpetuated by two of their own (leaving Andrew out of the discussion for now). Once again, it is August, and the Queen and other senior royals are in hiding up at Balmoral, appearing to be completely oblivious to the gathering storm.

We just want to see Archie and know what the f*ck is going on with Fraudmore, to name two items. We don't even demand the Queen's mea culpa in person on the television . . .just a cogent statement of what we are not being told about the future of the Sussexes.

Andrew is a whole other ball of wax. I predict that maybe the Queen and Philip will never come back from Balmoral and will just have a joint Viking funeral up there when the time comes. I can't blame them, but someone has to mind the store. Chas, you're on deck, man.
Lime_Smoothie said…
The other royals fly on normal airlines, William has even flown economy class.

The Queen often takes the train to Sandringham, and she's the actual Monarch ( I assume she's in the First Class Coach, but this is on a normal bookable service.

The public fund Royal Protection Officers, there's no need for this pretence, they could cope with flying on normal airlines, they are choosing not to.
JL said…
HM the Queen may not take their title back, but the good people of Sussex are planning on not using it or affording the couple any courtesies. They have enough signatures on a petition to take the matter to the Council now. October 24th. I bet the Dumbartons are too stupid to realize what a threat this is. Or as always they think they will just skate and mommy will fix it.

https://phantom.brighton-hove.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=639&TPID=29537362&
Jdubya said…
harry flew to Canada multiple times, commercial flights when dating meghan. So, yes, they can fly commercial .
Hikari said…
Sussex is a lovely and historically important county which exemplifies the best of both England's rural/seaside heritage and its indomitable Bulldog fighting spirit. 'Operation Dynamo', et al. Such a proud legacy shouldn't be tarnished by the Hapless Harkles. My empathy is entirely with the people of Sussex.

Well, there's always the Dumbarton title. Wonder if the tiny village of Dumbarton has a cottage going spare for the Harkles. I suppose they would insist on taking over the Lord Mayor's house, though there may be a house for the Earl of Dumbarton that has more to recommend it than FrogCott. If the Earl of Dumba$$ paid a visit there, he would know these things.
Girl with a Hat said…
they have to hide Archie so commercial flying is out of the question for them. They just need to stay home or travel separately.
Hikari said…
I'd like to know exactly how many London Heathrow - Toronto flights Haz made in the roughly 14 months he was 'dating' Meghan. Transatlantic booty calls, more like, where they stayed at Soho House Toronto in (fully comped) style and most likely never at her modest studio-paid apartment. Funny how the Lifetime movie never once mentioned Soho House. We were meant to think that Haz embraced the novelty of being just a regular bloke enjoying movie nights in with his American girl . .cuddly socks, popcorn, hot chocolate . . gag me.

If they were in fact broken up for 6 months before reconnecting (most unwillingly on Haz's part, based on the pictures) at Skippy Inskip's wedding in Jamaica, then their actual relationship is a lot shorter than claimed. There's the Botswana vacation and however many times each flew back and forth over the Pond. Might have only been 10-12 meetings or less before she moved into NottCott. True to form, she was out of a job and looking for free lodging.

What is this mystical power the Meg has over men? Maybe she's born with it . . . maybe it's . . . demonic possession? Mesmerism? Beats me. It defies logic altogether. She's beastly.
Girl with a Hat said…
I'm beginning to wonder about the Queen. I read a story on the express this morning about Andrew and wonder how she raised her children. Andrew used to kick at the dogs while he was a child. He also once took a wooden stick and hit a horse across the back of his legs. The grooms working in the stable threw Andrew into a pile of manure for doing this, but where never punished. What kind of vile, cruel, nasty children did she bring up? It's not surprising that Andrew hung out with Epstein.
Jen said…
Hikari..that was my first thought when I heard about the private jet. The only way they can travel is privately, because of the fauxbaby. But I'm not as well versed on how the royal family travels, so I wasn't sure if other members of the royal family also traveled privately on occasion. In this case, since it was paid for by someone else, then it's not unlike William and Kate flying to their vacation (paid for by Middletons). The only difference is, they're not hypocrites who stand out in front of people and tell them they shouldn't do it, all the while they do it themselves.
346NYC said…
This is interesting. Love your feedback from this radio program. Obviously we don't get it here in the USA. Good to know what the public feels about these two idiots.
346NYC said…
Mischi, I totally agree with you. It seems Sarah Latham is stuck in the 80s/90s
and continues to use the playbook she used with Clinton's Election Campaign.
Use celebrities to spout RIGHT THINK and call anyone deplorable, racist, homophobic, and sexist who doesn't agree with your abhorrent behavior. It's not working Sarah.
It didn't work with Homicidal Hillary and it's not going to work with the Cow Dung named Meghan Markle and her Ginger Pee-on.
Kat said…
@tinhatter something must be coming up. I can't figure out why the sudden defending of MM by Ellen or Pink.
Kat said…
@jen, right it's a total copy and paste from a PR email.
Kat said…
Their must be a PR blasted. I'm seeing more people coming out to support PH and MM. Which is wild since my Twitter feed is usually very Royal Family free. Of course lots of people are saying it's all based on her race. It could have nothing to do with her attitude, demeanor, or ever social climber/grifter move she's made
Hikari said…
Bring children into a hyper critical, emotionally repressed environment where any hugs and cuddles are administered by paid nannies, and Mummy is a remote and always busy figure whom they see twice a day for about 15 minutes in total, and Daddy is an autocratic bully who's often absent as well . . it's a recipe for screwed up kids.

Andrew was indulged the most, being Mummy's favorite after a 10 year stretch between babies & it showed. It's fashionable to dump on Charles for being a weakling, but actually surviving his emotionally deprived childhood and brutal schooling without turning into a sociopath is commendable. If anything Chas suffers from feeling too much--he nurtures living things and there's never been any hint that he abuses animals or has any sexual depravities.

Apart from his attraction to Camilla and his desire to be her tampon . . . but that qualifies more as extremely awkward phone sex, not as perversion as such.

I was really disappointed to learn that Harry is abusive to his polo ponies and one of them died. The others he just bloodies up with his spurs.

I used to like Harry, but I can say that is definitively no longer true. I'm edging toward hatred, actually.
Hikari said…
I believe everybody flew commercial to the Mustique vacation.

Obviously some airline travel is unavoidable as Royals, but the sheer hypocrisy of taking no less than four private airjet flights within a week of giving a 'barefoot' speech on environmental responsibility is what rankles.

On the few occasions I have heard Harry speak, he seemed comfortable and in command of himself, but it was only in snippets, like when he sang a few bars at 'Hamilton' and charmed the crowd. I think it's the longer stints in front of a mike that he can't handle so well, and his intellectual deficiencies leak out more. Because it's like he's memorizing lines she's giving him to say but there is no connection to the reality he is living.

He's not the only celebrity hypocrite, of course, but he is not just another actor . . he is in a position to really command some respect for his causes, but he's pissing it all away by consorting with the wrong people . . starting with his wife.

For someone who is legendarily stubborn, Haz is also easily led. It's easier to let someone else do all the thinking and just go where he's told to go. With a good woman at his side, how different his path might now be . . but he's made his disastrous choice and we see how that's going.
Jen said…
Lately, its always about race with everything. You disagree with someone who is black, its CLEARLY because they are black and couldn't possibly be because you just disagree with what they said, did, or are doing. this is the world we live in. Martin Luther King is probably spinning in his grave. This is not what he meant.
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Unknown said…
It important to always purchase precious metals from reputable dealers to avoid Tungsten filled Gold bars. Your paying full price for a pure product only to find it's filled with worthless crap.
Perhaps this is what PC meant.
Hikari said…
Yep. Racism is ALWAYS white-privilege-on-non-white, and can't possibly flow the other way, ever. Hence, St. Meghan is exempt from being anything but the victim of racism due to her melatonin from her mom.

Her husband, who told Jane Goodall that everybody who was not fortunate enough to be born non-Caucasian and therefore 'woke' from the womb was guilty of 'unconscious bias'. What a strange conversation to have with the world's leading primatetologist. Wouldn't the whole point of interviewing Jane Goodall be to talk to her about her work with chimpanzees and her conservation efforts in Africa? Instead she was reduced to agreeing with Harry's semi-comprehensible mushy granola indictment that she, as an 80 year old white lady and former English rose is an unconscious racist. Dr. Goodall indulged this nonsense by being a good sport about it all.

One of the lesser known facts about Hero Harry, the Captain Prince of Afghanistan was that the whole cover story for the end of his Army career was a smokescreen. 'The press' was blamed for releasing the location of Harry's unit and jeopardizing his security and that of the whole unit. Actually Haz and his CO had come to a mutual parting of the ways over Haz's insubordinate ways, and Harry voluntarily quit. A dishonorable discharge wouldn't do for a Wales. One of the items in his file of shame: the time he called a squadmate 'a Paki' during a verbal altercation. That is as offensive to Pakistani people as the N word is to American blacks.

So Meghan's married herself a racist but it's OK because he's got money and his granny is an important person. Question is, is Harry consciously claiming that little exercise in bias or was he unconscious at the time? The person he insulted was wide awake.
KnitWit said…
Publicists may have their clients post about the royals to get more hits. It seems to be working. Being anti bullies, anti racists, pro kindness is unlikely to get negative reactions.
Miss_Christina said…
Really P!nk? Really? MeAgain is the complete antithesis of you, sleeping her way to fame and using her looks to get through life. Why on Earth would you issue any kind of statement in her defense? If that doesn't prove that all these celebrity statements aren't favours called in by Meg's PR team then I don't know what does.
Anonymous said…
Oh, I like that idea, @Unknown.

@Hikari: "I guess I have far less patience than you for the 'slow acting poison' route. Is Elizabeth Regina the Sovereign of Great Britain and thus in charge of calling all the shots or is she only some timorous little old granny afraid to say 'no' to her appallingly behaved grandson and his demanding American wh*re? It was generous of her to give Harry a wedding at all considering how he's behaved his whole life. He's not *entitled* to anything--Granny is the Ultimate candy machine that decides what he and his bint get, from tiaras to wedding venues to any of it. What's happened to the Elizabeth unafraid to take an unpopular stand because she was following the dictates of her conscience? She *is* Brittania . . but how diminished Brittania has become, if a snotty American nobody can tell the Queen how to run her business."

True, and I don't have much patience with it either, but I have been round and round it, and I can't find a better option and I've not seen anyone present one, so I'm sticking with slow-acting poison. Of course, ER *could* do all of those things, but power and grace require slow-acting poison. There will not be a public b!shslapping IMO.
hildarumpole said…
Elle, it's interesting that True Southerners don't count Appalachia as part of the South. That's the first I've heard of this. Geographically, large portions of the region are in the south. Is it a cultural issue? Sorry to get off topic, just curious.
Mischief Girl said…
A few things:

1) For me, Harry and Smirkle have become EuroTrash. They are far more "celebrity" than "Royal" at this point.

2) No way, no how will Her Majesty abdicate in favor of anyone when she turns 95. She will wear the crown and do her duty until her dying breath. Charles may be receiving the boxes now, in addition to Her Maj, and he may well take on more official engagements, but she absolutely will NOT abdicate the throne. I'd bet a LOT of money on that. She made a vow to the people of Great Britain during her famous radio broadcast when she was young. She sees being Queen as a sacred and God-given duty. She will never voluntarily give that up.

3) Yes, William has flown commercial and he has flown coach. The one example everyone shares is when he flew coach for a friend's wedding--maybe Dallas to Memphis? I think it was Guy Pelly's wedding, when he married Liz, the daughter to the heir of the Motel 6 fortune. Yes, William flew coach, but it's only because on that short of a flight there is only one class of service. So let's not bow down too far for his correctness. Coach class was his only option, if he was going to fly commercial.

That's all for now. I love reading your blog, Nutty, and I greatly enjoy all the comments!

Anonymous said…
I think we are already seeing the slow-acting poison. It's just most of us are used to seeing direct action taken, things discussed and called out in American fashion. I don't think that can happen here. I don't even think it should happen here, satisfying as it might be in the short run.

As I wrote in a previous post somewhere, to catch a thief, a liar, a cheater, or worse, they must commit their crimes and then be caught, not vice versa. Markle must well and truly ruin herself in order for the BRF to act. I do not see another way. Of course, I could be wrong.

I do believe escape routes are being cut off. You even suggested that the Dumbartons might be chic-rich homeless. There is some rabid anti-Dumbarton hate building. The BRF is not defending or acknowledging them. But I do not see that HM is going to go to the DM and confess all. It is just not going to happen.

So, while I do not disagree with you re the awfulness of the Sussex-Dumbartons, I do not think there will be a public wielding of power from BP. I could be wrong, of course, and your points are well made and taken, but convincing me accomplishes nothing.
Girl with a Hat said…
Harry wanted to marry a woman of colour. He tried to get it on with Rihanna, asking her if she wanted to marry into the BRF. So let's admit that this celebrity lifestyle was his plan all along.
Anonymous said…
For example,

Sussexroyal: 🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘 Today is #WorldElephantDay and we are pleased to announce that since we followed our friends at @ElephantswithoutBorders (EWB) on Instagram in July, when we were celebrating the environment, you and our friend @TheEllenFund (@TheEllenShow) have spread the word and EWB have been able to help protect 25 elephants by fitting them with satellite navigation collars!
Anonymous said…
Not sure that logic follows. The celebrity lifestyle, maybe, but not all celebrities are black, and just because he wanted to date Rihanna and then he dated Markle doesn't necessarily mean he wanted to marry a woman of color. He also wanted to marry some blonde girls, IIRC. Actually, neither Chelsy nor Cressida were celebrities, either.
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Girl with a Hat said…
Eurotrash except that she's not Euro at all.
Miss_Christina said…
Yep. Clear as a bell.
hardyboys said…
That was so funny when Sally woods did that I remember thinking wtf? I think I'm gonna YouTube that speech again now
SwishyFishy said…
The Charlatan Duchess blog has a list of some celebrities who are represented by Creative Artists Agency. I don't think anyone will be surprised to discover that the Clooneys, Ellen D., P!nk, the Beckhams, Elton John, Jane Goodall and many others who are buddy buddy with the Sussexes are on that list. There is also a link between PR, many of her defenders also employ Sunshine Sachs.
SwishyFishy said…
Oooo, nice one Nutty!
SwishyFishy said…
Tin Hatter, someone put the pieces together. You can find it on Charlatan Duchess. Everyone defending her is repped by Creative Artist Agency.
JL said…
Trudy2. Pink has plummeted for me too. It was just too nasty.
JL said…
Poor Sally never lived that speech down, ever. Despite two Academy Awards, three Primetime Emmy Awards, two Golden Globe Awards, a Screen Actors Guild Award, as well as nominations for a Tony Award and two BAFTA Awards and even getting past The Flying Nun (LOL) that speech is what people remember.
Fifi LaRue said…
Elle, appreciate your posts; and, your screen name is very clever!
Fifi LaRue said…
Hikari: Astute observation.
JL said…
So that’s it then. CAA. She hired them. With what money? Lion King?
Meanwhile her other “friends” such as Priyanka and Jessica appear to have been Markled.
JL said…
Hikari, “edging toward hatred” is the perfect way to put it. I’d like to add that I am becoming an Edward fan. He clearly has assumed the role of the youngest child, which is to be of support to parents during their advanced years. I notice he quietly does this. He’s the only one of the bunch who never divorced, even he by waiting so long to marry he was accused of being gay. (And if he is I don’t care.) He seems quite stable.
Anonymous said…
Hikari, I'm a big animal lover, too, and so I was concerned about the polo ponies as well. I did a little research and Celt News did a piece on it, too. Veterinarians talked about it, too. It doesn't *sound* like he was abusing them. Still....

As for Chas, I love that he loves the little red squirrels and lets them come into his house. I'm actually surprised he has the heart for hunting.
Anonymous said…
Why, thank you, Rabbit! I'm sure there's a story behind your screen name, too :)

I was thinking about this a little more:

Is it possible that the Sussex-Dumbartons have already been cut off and that is why no one is living at FC and that is why they're scrambling to different places? Is it possible that when Chas dumped the disastrous duo, they were given notice and time to "decide to leave the BRF and go to LA" instead of receiving a public dumping? This would actually explain a lot of this madness.
Anonymous said…
Well, I checked out woke twitter, and no one seems to care at all.
SwishyFishy said…
I'm in the boat with Hikari. My tolerance is compromised. I can't take much more of this nightmare. I hate seeing manipulative, dishonorable, deceitful people win over and over again. I've deleted most of the places I sourced news, mostly because the negativity of it all is dragging me down, also because they all pretty much say the same thing, and partly because there's a weird backlash happening. I've read some pretty disturbing "sugar" posts about Kate. As if, to tear Meghan down, they have to build up Kate as this saintly, perfect figure. It looks alarmingly like the same bullshit that Meghan's sugars have been doing. It's well known that Kate has also ghosted people from her past (dragon boat race, anyone?) and yet Kate's sugars view that as Kate being a dutiful girlfriend and focusing on her newly reignited relationship with William. Blech. Ghosting is ghosting. You can't condemn one person for it and then in the same breath give someone else a reprieve simply because you like them better.

So I've cut down to a minimum of Meghan news, and at some point I may only be left with the Nutty blog and some random CDAN posts if I don't see some karmic retribution or RF action any time soon. I used to think the Queen was playing the long game, waiting Meghan out in the expectation that give her enough rope and she will hang herself (no "unconscious bias" intended in that comment, it's just a metaphor). However, as the Sussex's go from one PR disaster to the next, one more movie premiere while abandoning duties that have meaning, like the memorial at Deal for fallen soldiers, one more gas guzzling vacation after vacation...there isn't anyone stopping them or admonishing them. The press is getting snarky, but it's not getting real, i.e. asking the pertinent questions and giving us the facts that are left to be put together by common folk on the internet (the christening time stamp photos, links between celebrities and agencies, merching, etc.). The Queen seems more and more like what she is; a very elderly, doddering old lady at the end of her life, who is too tired to care and has passed down the reigns (and the money) to her insecure, ineffective son, who seems ambivalent about doing anything for fear of alienating his ne'er-do-well, insipid dimwit of a child and his calculating, greedy wife. Honestly, it sounds like a modern day Grimms fairy tale. You can't make this shit up.

I feel like everyone is just tip toeing around the powder keg, waiting for someone to light the fuse, but the people who have the match (the press, the RF, Meghan's family, past husbands, friends and coworkers) are too damn lazy or afraid to get up and blow this charade apart and show the public what we've known all along. These idiots are two of the most despicable, fake, narcissistic, bloviating blowhards in the public arena today. I feel so bad that the UK taxpayers are fitting the bill for such complete and utter crap. They deserve better.
SwishyFishy said…
I don't post on the DM anymore either. Mostly because almost everything I post gets flagged as offensive when I'm writing tame content and saying the exact same thing as everyone else. Also, because many of my comments never end up being posted anymore (only on Meghan articles, no problems with any other comments). I wonder if I'm on some kind of banned list. I think some posters have been targeted. I feel like, with thousands (thousands!) of posts all saying the same thing, there's no need for my opinion since i agree with all of it and have nothing new or scintillating to add. I would simply be adding to the morass of despair and displeasure.
SwishyFishy said…
I believe P!nk's quote about William was, "He's like a redneck from the South."
And she's lecturing us about being kind and inclusive?
She's also a member of PETA who often speaks out about veganism, and yet she is defending roasted chicken loving, lambskin skirt wearing Meghan. Hypocrisy runs deep within her. It's a shame. I really liked her for being outspoken and different at one point. Looks like she sold out hard.
SwishyFishy said…
I confess, I've actually found it very endearing that Charles admits he talks to his plants. How lovely is that? I'm sure the plants appreciate his CO2 over that of a private jet.
SwishyFishy said…
In the early years of their marriage, the Cambridges and Kate's family were papped at Heathrow for the annual Mustique vacation. Since the children were born, you don't see the airport pictures anymore.
SwishyFishy said…
Has anyone ever looked at the tweets from Meghan's Vogue poster girl, Jameela Jamil? She's downright scary. Her tweets are so loaded with condescending, vile, ugly, racist hatred towards anyone who disagrees with her and she has a rabid, unhinged defense of Meghan. It's truly disturbing. She's got some serious issues. I can't believe that Meghan put her on the cover of the magazine as someone to watch and emulate. I actually felt a bit nauseous reading some of her tweets because they were so negative and mean spirited.
SwishyFishy said…
The elephant thing is apparently Ellen Degeneris' pet project. Looks like somebody made a quid pro quo deal with the Sussexes.
SwishyFishy said…
Not Motel 6, Holiday Inn fortune. How pathetic is it that I know that?
Anonymous said…
Well, TBC: I think markle is an abomination and I want her gone in the same way you two do. Where we disagree is that I do think it is happening, I do not think it will happen quickly or directly, and I think that in the long term it will be better that way to ensure that markle is truly done.

As for Kate, I haven't seen the OTT stuff re her, but I don't doubt that it exists. I do respect how she handles herself. The kids seem happy and are adorable, and I would drink too many crack babies with her given the chance.

I'm 60/40 on the ghosting thing. Sometimes friendships end. I don't know the circumstances re Kate and the dragon boats, but I do know that she seems to have a good track record of maintaining relationships, at least from the little bit I know. I'm sure we've all ghosted people at one point or another, but not with the same manipulate-use-and-then-step-over-the-body regularity of the markle.
Anonymous said…
"Haz was weak on his own, but aimless and mostly just a harmless douche. Combined with the brains behind the Sussex outfit, he's morphed into a real toxic butthole. There's no coming back from this; it's gone too far. If he's been disowned by Charles and William both, he may as well forget about ever patching things up."

-- I concur.
Now! said…
Just an update on the "celebrity friends" - both Ellen and P!nk have been thoroughly roasted on social media for their defense of Meghan and Harry.

I think their PR/social media teams thought this would be an easy win - "only racists don't like Meghan" - and were surprised to find that there were larger issues in play.

I doubt any more celebrities will be eager to grant Meghan favors anytime soon.


Also, on a related note, I see that a lot of European papers are writing about "flying shame", a concept that originated in Sweden - the idea that it is shameful to fly on an airplane purely for pleasure. Apparently it is so widespread in Sweden that the number of departures from Swedish airports dropped 11% this summer.

So far I haven't seen this concept connected to Harry and Meghan, but it's only a matter of time before some journalist puts the two together.
Anonymous said…
Perfect.
Suzanne Wilson said…
The next time one of the Royals has to fly privately they should charter a propeller plane and let the press take impromptu pics.
Lady Luvgood said…
Ruh Roh, Jessica (loving myself by posting bare a** thong pix on Insta) Mulroney did it, said Megdusa and Harry are being picked on because we’re all racist.

Ummm, last time I checked Harry is white, and calling them hypocrites has nothing to do with melanin.
SwampWoman said…
I notice that the concerts in England were over before she simultaneously supported the Harkle marriage and baby fraud sh*tshow and slagged William as well as a large portion of America. She must be attempting to lower her carbon footprint by alienating a lot of her audience so that she doesn't have to travel so much. Go woke green P!nk, go! No, really. Just go.
SwampWoman said…
Yes, thank you, Lime-Smoothie. While there might be some loud support from "celebrities" in the USA, the most often asked question about MM after engagement announcement was "who?" followed closely by "WHY?"
Trudy2 said…
@Swishy, I too must have been added to their 'banned' list. As you say, it's only on the Harkle stories.
I'm 100% certain that the press know most, if not all, of what is happening behind the scenes. It must be excruciating for someone whose career is based on investigative journalism to have to churn out BP approved content. When the dam finally breaks, it's going to be torrential, I'm sure of it.
SwampWoman said…
If CAA is using the other artists/celebrities it represents to shore up or shield the Harkles against well-deserved opprobrium, artists/celebrities should be livid because it is going to diminish their support or, at the very least, have people question their IQ. I wonder if behind the scenes the eff word is flying.
SwampWoman said…
That's all very well and good about the 'woke' CEOs but, if my retirement funds are invested in them, they better dang sure be worried about making a profit. Any company that is not interested in making a profit will not have the funds to operate or, indeed, to pay the CEOs usually astronomical salary.
gabes_human said…
Bless your heart Reine. So you’ll know what I mean when I ask “who are your people?” To those who can read and don’t spit snuff, many of our Southern traditions are regional adaptations brought to the colony by our British forebearers in the 17th century. Fox hunts in the Carolinas? Check. Card-carrying members of the DAR and DAC ? Check. We still have ‘cousins’ in the motherland honey and we were raised to respect that. In the 1840’s a great grandfather whacked his brother over the head with a single tree and killed him so he hightailed it to the territory of Texas. And yes, I have the silver that was buried so that the Yankees didn’t get it (different branch than the refugee).
Lime_Smoothie said…
She's a sanctimonious twit. This morning she has claimed that it isn't safe for royals and plebs to travel on the same flights because security.

Her replies are full of people telling her she's an idiot/naming a Royal that was sitting in front of them on budget airline flights.

Good to know that the general public travelling from Kings Cross to King's Lynn are 'unsafe' because the Queen uses that train regularly.
gabes_human said…
I got off-topic above. I was happy for H finding a partner to begin with and really didn’t pay much more attention to them until, as I poured over foreign newspapers for less party based news of my own country I was appalled to see that many Brits were using MeGain’s behaviour as a reference for all American women and I was offended. As you can see I’m from the American South but I have lived in France research and culinary school) and paid extended visits (research in UK) to other parts of the world. I was happy to see that the image of the loud, bombastic American had faded. The loud, portly, cigar smoking Texas oilman with his (expensively) overdressed, social climbing frau is only to be seen in the movies these days. Except for the female version who was born RMM. Defending myself and my RWB🇺🇸sisters against those misguided opinions was important to me. While I would love to share companionship with a lovely British gentleman, most of us don’t have an agenda for self-agrandisement.

Do any of you think there is a correlation between H&M’s most recent f-ups and the fact that HM is on holiday at Balmoral and thus isn’t seeing their antics first hand? I know she must be aware of some of their shenanigans by word of mouth but is biding her time and soothing her nerves with Glenfiddich until she returns in the fall. They seem to have waited until the cat was away to really pour on their ratty tricks. Three trips abroad by PJ, accepting EJ’s free hospitality, obviously fake PR... . This is a lot in a short space of time even for them. It reminds me of teenagers throwing a party while mom and dad are away. It looks to me like the press has removed their kid gloves and more is coming out every day. Their is a petition circulating to have the Sussex title stripped from them that now has enough signatures to go in front of the council in October. I do think they are pretty much homeless and getting by on reduced funding. While we’re finding it finger clinchingly frustrating watching the latest BS, I think all hell is going to break loose when HM returns.
SwampWoman said…
I think that MLK Jr. would be appalled to find that his expressed desire "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." has turned into "If you question my character, that's racist!"

gabes_human said…
Men, I do think H&M could fly commercial. It would entail taking over the entire 1st class section or tail section by the time you factor in seats for a nanny and RPOs so I don’t think the peon passengers would be happy. It was brought up that security on commercial flights is higher than on charter flights.
Hikari said…
Swishy,

I saw the story about Chas and the squirrels. I'm sure he would personally breathe on every plant in his gardens at Highgrove to try and offset the damage his son, the Earl of Dumba$$ and Tungsten are doing with their private jet-setting. Chas was talking about environmental issues 40 years ago before it was trendy, and he stuck to his guns despite being an object of merciless ridicule from his father.

I have developed more respect for Charles in the 22 years since that awful Summer of Diana. It's trying to make up for having judged him too harshly during his marriage to her. Diana had a lot of qualities in common with Meg; not as blatant, but there. Saint Diana she was not. I do think Diana was at heart a good person, and a loving mother, but she did have her issues. Borderline Personality Disorder has a lot in common with NPD. For someone raised as Charles had been, stiff upper lip and all that, living with her must have been a nightmare, but he gave it a go for 10 years.

Meg doesn't have a single good quality that I can detect. If Harry was really fooled by her love-bombing nonsense, he's a dolt. The other option is that he knew exactly what he was getting himself into . . . aiming Meg like a weapon at his family as revenge for perceived slights and to damage William and his father the most. He probably told himself he could handle it, and that He'd Really Show Them! and become more famous and beloved and rich than the Queen. That's what Meg was filling his head with.

It didn't take long . . a few months or weeks before he started having profound buyers' remorse. He seems prepared to double down and pretend that he's a joyful new dad and he made an excellent choice in wife.

Whatever. Haz can p*ss off as far as I'm concerned. Oh, how we wish they would.

@JL.

I have new respect for Edward as well. If Harry and Meg were really sincere about helping the family and doing good within their roles, they should be looking to Ed and Sophie about how to conduct themselves. Sophie's life is about to get considerably less pleasant if she's really been appointed Meghan's 'mentor'. But she is a great favorite with the Queen and has her ear. So Sophie's negative reports might actually carry some weight.
gabes_human said…
Mischi, I know this will come across as ugly but I’m from a part of the South where is was wholly expected that a gentleman would have a WOC as his mistress. I his pursuit of darker skinned women, is Harry just continuing this tradition? The Duke of Edinburgh famously said “ One steps out with actresses. One doesn’t marry them.” By his choice of bride, has Harry killed two birds with one stone so far as saying F*** You to his family and country?
Now! said…
Sadly, it’s not my invention, but it seems to be applicable in many, many cases.
Tin Hatter said…
Thanks for doing the legwork on that Swishy!
Tin Hatter said…
I saw that, thanks Swishy!
JL said…
It’s reported Mulroney is calling racism now. Meghan just won’t let this go. The NPD is so extreme she can’t see that it is her horrid personality and grifter behavior that is the problem. She is desperate to be some sainted victim of racism. But as Nutty points out, even the African American community on Lipstick Alley hate her. That is how out of touch she is.
Jen said…
Considering she has been living white her entire adult life, it's a bit "too little, too late" to now be black. I think most Americans (can't speak for folks outside of the US) are sick of the "you're racist" moniker given to folks who disagree with a person of color. I'm seriously over it, go ahead and call me racist. It means nothing any more.
abbyh said…
Back to the comment on 150 CEO's deciding improving the world and no profit focus.

I wonder how long it will take before investor led revolts to overthrow the CEOs, the boards start appearing on the shareholder ballots?

And, I'm with you. I'm counting on that to not be eating cat food in my old age.
abbyh said…
I also think it diminishes the ability to legally do something about real racism (by calling any disagreement as racist to invoke right on your side).
Champagne said…
Honestly when she unveiled her "ever burgeoning bump" ( her Vogue words, lol) at the fashion show, and stood there rubbing it and holding it for all the world to see with the euphoric/rapturous look on her face while all the celebs applauded her and the photogs snapped her pic, that Sally Fields speech moment was the first thing that popped in my head. That was another major red flag for me that there is something not mentally right with this woman.
Champagne said…
@Hikari... yes it sucked that The Queen made Eugenie move her May wedding to October, but it was for the best. Like the saying goes... Marry in may, and you will live to rue the day. According to old english/irish adage May weddings are supposed to be bad luck and meant to end in disaster
.
Married when the year is new, he'll be loving, kind & true,
When February birds do mate, You wed nor dread your fate.
If you wed when March winds blow, joy and sorrow both you'll know.
Marry in April when you can, Joy for Maiden & for Man.
Marry in the month of May, and you'll surely rue the day.
Marry when June roses grow, over land and sea you'll go.
Those who in July do wed, must labour for their daily bread.
Whoever wed in August be, many a change is sure to see.
Marry in September's shrine, your living will be rich and fine.
If in October you do marry, love will come but riches tarry.
If you wed in bleak November, only joys will come, remember.
When December snows fall fast, marry and true love will last.


Even the day of Saturday is seen as a bad luck day to wed in old english/irish tradition.
Maybe this is me looking for answers in the great beyond, but so far this adage is delivering :-)
Girl with a Hat said…
the Brits are up in arms about being called racists. This will not end well for Spenderella.
SwampWoman said…
Abbyh, better to be eating cat food than the cat, I suppose!
SwampWoman said…
I particularly like the schools that PC has established for various crafts for the village children. I hate to say it, but I have been advocating the same thing about vocational versus university education for years. It has been interesting for me to find out that we are similar in outlook in this instance.
punkinseed said…
There's a little used word that escapes me right now that means what abbyh and Jen are talking about. That's what the woke dingbats are doing with the word "racist." They've abused it so much that it diminishes and dilutes the purpose behind its original meaning. I can't find it right now, darn it. It's similar to cliché, but stronger.
When I hear of people calling others racist any more I think of Rachael Dolezall and wonder if she is racist.
Lottie said…
@Mishi
I saw someone from the DM call the Sussex's 'Woke & Broke'
I thought it summed them up nicely

Now I always have a little laugh now when i see the word 'woke'
punkinseed said…
Champagne, thanks for posting this. I was married 1st time on... May 19, 1972, and ya, it was a disaster. Lasted about 3 years. No kids, thank goodness.
KayeC said…
Wanted to add about Edward and Sophie, that she had a tough pregnancy and birth with Lady Louise and both were honest about it. Also, when LL had multiple surgeries to fix her eye (eyes) I remember it being reported on. No secrets or hiding.
Girl with a Hat said…
the tide has turned. The press is turning on Markle. First the express talks about all of the little digs Markle and her submissive have made about Kate:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1168107/Royal-feud-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Kate-Middleton-royal-rift-news

then, an article about how Kate turned down first class travel

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1168275/kate-middleton-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-prince-william-royal-family-spt
BaileyHowe said…
Ever since MeAgain came on the scene i wanted to know everything about this person and what kind of person she is.
I read somewhere she was having career problems and she hooked up with a therapist or someone like that, perhaps a life coach and they gave her advice and Markle stated that ever since she followed the advice she was becoming more & more successful. I always wondered what the advice was. After observing her for the past 2 yrs or so I finally figured out what the advice was. Its this : " You are always number 1 . You are the center of attention and if not make it so. Do ANYTHING to get what you want, claw, climb, trample on others because nobody matters but you. Ignore others advice and guidance only you know best even if your husbands grandmother is HM Q GB & the isles.
Hurt people, leave them behind, disown them as they are only the rungs of the ladder you are climbing to get everything you want , these people are disposable, after all its only you that matters . " I could be wrong about what the therapist or coach said but this sure has been her behavior as I and many others see it.
Ozmanda said…
And now we have this,.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7380717/Meghan-Markle-visibly-excited-makes-surprise-appearance-Smart-Works-charity-photoshoot.html
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Anonymous said…
And for those who need to see her laughing and "giggling", folding over with excitement and hysteria, it's all there. Markle in tights and FMPs, gotta love it.

If, however, you'd prefer one of my favorite classics, the one where the Dumbartons are scarfed by all the Senior Royals, The Charlatan Duchess has it playing now.
Anonymous said…
I think Markle wants to be black about as much as OJ wanted to be black -- not at all and as far away from it as possible. And yet, it's that which saved OJ (at first) and likely keeps Markle afloat longer than otherwise (although I'm starting to suspect that they have been cut off...).

I'm seeing the same thing with "pedophile" and "money laundering" -- two really awful crimes that have a devastating impact. Pedophile, attraction to pre-adolescent children, is even more demonic than the later stages, yet people continue to use it as a panacea to all behavior related to underage humans. There is a meaningful difference IMO.

Money-laundering takes much more skill and ability than regular fraud/theft/embezzlement, and the reason that this is important is because of the way it is linked to global criminal elements (international drug and human trafficking, for example) and the devastating impact it has on our economy (and the global one). FINCEN estimates $300 billion annually for the US - and that is all related to serious crime. It's not just a way to avoid taxes -- in fact, launderers are more than happy to pay some taxes on the money they get into the system because that legitimizes the funds. It's not just a way to grift the in-laws by charging them for clothes you didn't wear. It's a serious crime because of its sources/uses.

The use of the word 'racism' as a panacea to all that ails us also hurts more than it helps, and the meaning has been so diluted and the application of it used in such eye-rolling situations that those of us who are far from racist are even becoming annoyed -- and that means alienating the groups you need for support.
Jen said…
Meh....i applaud the charity, but that article tells us very little about the charity itself. It's mostly about her, and her getting excited, and what she's wearing. Give me a break!
abbyh said…
I saw that article about Smart Works. Things I noticed.

1) in the plane photos you can see the traces of her black bra under the white shirt. I think if she had a good dresser, she would not have been wearing that pairing. You don't see any of that royal generation showing off their undergarments any more than you see them not wearing stockings to a meet and greet. It's not a finished look. Not royal. (personal peeve, sorry).

2) Someone pointed out in the comments about the little girl giggles and how they seem inappropriate. I get that this is to try to spin people into thinking she is approachable, wonderful, look at her and take your mind off the private plane criticism.

It is too little. too late, and will never be enough to even start to change the minds of the angry people. She's too far gone to be able to come back (unless she like went into a convent and stayed there forever).

The DM doesn't seem to watching the comments as I saw one which talked about how badly she treated people on the tour and that they believed what happened backstage at this event was not different. Or that it wasn't a big surprize at all but a carefully managed fluff.

Topic change: Elle, I love your Southern observations. Those Yellow Dogs came to my mind as well as all the dis that come from being truly polite as Mama taught. Good laugh.
punkinseed said…
Is it possible that Megs and Harry's end game agenda is to create so much chaos and disruption that it brings down the royal family? Both are so extremely self serving, hateful and disrespectful towards the monarchy. If you've ever had the crazy train ride of living with a narcissist like I did for 40 years, you'd know from experience that they covet everything anyone has and if the Narcissist can't have it, be it wealth, position, achievement, they will make damn sure nobody else has it either. I think it's possible that Megs hates Kate and William so much that she's doing everything she can to prevent, obstruct, damage their eventual ascent to the throne. Megs would find a way throw as many obstacles in the Cambridges way as possible. She fights very dirty.
Since she married Harry, the British subjects' anger towards the royals has quickened and is waxing faster and hotter every day. I've read the DM for years and I can tell by the temperature of the UK commenters that they are angrier than they were at the queen when Diana died.
One can only hope that MI5 along with LG are on top of all Meg's doings and are prepared to prevent and take action.
I also wonder if Chas. hasn't reduced Meg's and Harry's allowance and that's why they are blatantly marching and taking freebies from their celeb friends. NarcMeg's uses blowback as way of getting back at people, even Chas. for reducing their $$ or cutting them off. They are doing Trade Outs to support their new "foundation." They get away with all of this because hey, what's Grandma or Dad going to do about it? Complain to the press? Yell at them? What? What's the punishment for behaving so badly?
Anonymous said…
Exactly. It's all about her.
Anonymous said…
Oh, @Nutty and Nuttiers: Plane allegedly didn't go to EJ's house after all?

https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/
punkinseed said…
Nutty, right on. They deserve all the roasting coming their way.
There's a vid on dailyexpress UK today. The commentator warns the douche and douchess that nothing is "free" and it's very un royal to accept freebies from anyone. He added with the caveat that those who give them anything expect something in return, sooner or later.... so ya. More Trade Outs and Quid Pro Quo. (Trade Outs is a term from advertising in publishing. Eg. the publisher is given free rooms from the hotel the publication is advertising.
Off Topic, and boy do I hate even thinking about Andrew, but here goes: Why now? Why has all of the information about Epstein and Andrew surfaced so meteorically? Who pulled the lever on this decade old exposure and why now?
punkinseed said…
ohhhh. Nutty and Nuttiers, you have to check this out!
If that's the same plane, they are so very busted. I checked the shots published in DM from the article the other day, but it either doesn't show the plane's numbers. It does show a photo of a plane, but the cutline states it's a plane similar to the one the douches used.
Avery said…
@Swishyfishy - Standing ovation. Bravo!
Anonymous said…
Oh, I did nothing. I just know possible merde profonde when I see it!

If this is true, and the Dumbartons stood silently while Sir John lied and covered for them, I cannot imagine the outrage. Add to that, BP released a statement about that trip. So, either they lied to BP *or* BP knew and let it happen anyway (two possible reasons: 1) still covering for the Dumbartons or 2) allowed this so that the Dumbartons could be set up to fail globally - and that would actually be very smart (and if 2 is the case, then probably Lord G himself dropped that photo lol.)
punkinseed said…
Elle, Exactly! Mwhaaaa haaaa haaaa.
SwampWoman said…
And why would EJ publicly lie about that? Might have something to do with a/the surrogate. Hmmmm.
Anonymous said…
I don't want to be prematurely gleeful, but if this was a setup, it was a lovely one: allow the fools to step in it, have celebrities come to the rescue to lie as requested (celebrities like Sir John and Ellen who probably think they're global stardom makes them impervious to the markle merde machine), and then let the awful truth come out via a third party. It's so much more effective than saying "nah-ah, that's not what happened," because when that's done, it gives the other side a way to blame and lie. In this case, the lie was outed by someone else, and now there have been definitive statements made by those who should know better. Of course, that same person should know better than to wear a cheap-derriere satin pant suit with Gucci Loves Elton on the back, too, so go figure. Regadless, I've had to lie in wait before - it's not easy, but the payoff is so much more excellent. It is also a nice reminder that knowledge is power and knowledge someone doesn't even know you have is even more powerful.
Anonymous said…
@Swampie, I did think that, too, but a more "innocent" take:

Prince Harry, who is the late Princess Diana's son ICYMI, might have called Sir John for a favor, and after seeing the awful, awful racist bullying, Sir John agreed to step in. It would even be better if markle or someone powerful "advised" a solution to this outrageous hypocrisy and then dropped the photo.
SwampWoman said…
Well, if the whole thing was just a merching set up, the celebrities that 'defended' her are going to look incredibly stupid.
Anonymous said…
And gosh, now that I think of it, why wouldn't the media have had that photo at the same time as the others? Could there have been a reason for holding it back from the rest?

If Swampwoman is right (and very well might be), then wouldn't this just be the best way in the world to out a surrogacy? No one needed to lift a royal digit. Nope, it would have all been thru a lie, another lie, a photo, and a third party's research. Sadly, Lord G would not be shining a light and we wouldn't see his thumbprints, but I would bow to the elegance of it.

We could all act surprised then, BRF included "Oh, my, but that wasn't Fauxrchie with the puffy legs and little red tufts!" "We were so over-the-moon with excitement." "Kate is heartbroken that all those motherly texts they'd shared were for a Fauxrchie!" "What about the private wing and the cake?" I can crank out the stories from here. Hey, Nutty, want to start a post where we all get to drop our own PR stories lol? I could see some humor in that one.
Anonymous said…
I don't think it was that at all. That would really, really, really be stupid because seriously, the Dumbartons need to sell jets to rich people? Yeah, no. Rich people already have their own PJs.
Anonymous said…
See my response above to your surrogacy thoughts, though. I did not discount them. I just had to mull them over.
SwampWoman said…
Meh, it was just me thinking to myself, mostly, and throwing it out there for other people to discuss/flesh out. I asked myself "Why in the world would they take the chance of being photographed with Archificial on a plane?" It would make more sense to me to leave him at home with the Nanny or ventriloquist, whichever the case may be, unless they were hoping to switch Pinocchio for a real live boy.
Anonymous said…
I think it is entirely possible if there is a search for a real live boy. It's a way to expose the truth *and* without the BRF doing the dirty work.
JenS said…
Good observations, @abbyh. I think she may have gotten drunk/high and decided to just show up (with a video crew, of course), since DM said SmartWorks hadn't been expecting her and was surprised by her visit. That could explain the sloppy clothing choices, constant giggling and clapping, and flinging her arms around every woman placed in front of her. Also, I doubt she thinks of herself as the age she really is; I'd bet her mental clock stopped around age 19, so that's how she acts. She DGAF about protocol, either, so there's no frame of reference for appropriate royal behaviour operating.

The plane pics were released from a PR firm, and someone on Tumblr used the plane's ID (painted on the tail) to trace the flight, which was owned by a Swedish cargo transport company and did not go anywhere near Nice or EJ's mansion. It's likely not even Megs in those pics, but someone did a poor job of coordinating the clothing/underthings. If this is how the wardrobe person thinks Megs dresses, that's sad (but also funny, b/c everyone knows she has no taste).

I agree that the SmartWorks video will not help, though. Everything she does backfires, and it's all been too much, too fast, for the public to come around now. Maybe with years of image rehab acting like Anne or Kate... but we all know that will never happen. She's too volatile and reactive, too focused on meeeeeee, all the time.
SwampWoman said…
Of course, I'm looking for motives that make sense to me. Perhaps they were just decoys, as some have surmised, and the Markles were somewhere else entirely.
SwampWoman said…
I suppose it is possible that she was answering questions that the FBI had about pictures or computers or address books that she may have been in.
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abbyh said…
I think decoys.

Too much face/head covered for both and we aren't hearing about her clothing (that I know of).

I will say this about the walking out of the plane (or any staircase). You look down but there is a part where you scan more at the horizon level to keep yourself orientated for depth before you start. And that more raised face, friends, would have been "the shot" that really would have sold. They have those rapid fire cameras. Where is or why isn't it there?

And the whole carry the baby thing is ... not leaving your hands free to do much else. It's a safety issue and aren't they supposed to have the new nanny with them to handle all these transitions?

Nothing makes sense.
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Aquagirl said…
The main reason that celebs are coming forth is that they are all with the same PR or Management companies. I posted extensively on this on CDAN on the 8/20 Markle blind. MM is with Sunshine Sachs. They are a PR Firm and also handle crisis management (they were called in for crisis management for Jesse Smollett & Weinstein.) They also have Beyoncé as a client, but it’s hard to get an entire list of clients. I know they handle Leo. Go to Portal.thefledglingfund. org to see some events/ connections. Elton and Pink have the same PR firm, and Pink just so happened to be on the Ellen show on 8/20. Everything is connected. The management company for many who have spoken out is CAA, and the Huvane brothers are key players there.
Almost everyone who has defended Cringe & Ginge is represented by CAA. Oftentimes they are told that they have to make a statement (they use their roster of clients to support each other.) There may be a few exceptions to this, but this is how it generally works. I think it’s quite sleazy, but I am not involved in that world, nor do I want to be. I think in this instance, the major problem is that there is so much distaste for the Sussexes that those who speak out in their support will lose fans. I was a Pink fan, and I’ve always liked Elton’s music, but I will never support either of them again. Same with Clooney (although he sort of lost me with the fake Amal marriage.) Degeneres & Oprah are just nasty, and I have no interest in anything that they say or do. Basically, I think that anyone who supports the Sussex shitshow is a hypocritical fool, and they can count on losing me as a fan if I ever was one.




Aquagirl said…
@Champagne: That was a sickening sight and a clear indication of the true level of her narcissism. I felt bad for Rosamund Pike, who is a very good actress and was supposed to present the award but got pushed aside for the D-List Smarkle.
Aquagirl said…
@Mischi: I agree! In fact, I’d go so far as to say that there is a growing hatred for celebrities, especially in the US.
SwishyFishy said…
As someone who has been ghosted by people I thought were good friends, I would never, NEVER ghost someone. It is incredibly painful to be on the receiving end of it. It's so confusing and you feel like a worthless piece of crap,left holding the emotional baggage. I agree, Kate has many friends from her past. The dragon boat situation is one of the few times her actions have left me disappointed in her.
Anonymous said…
Hi Trudy! Charlatan Duchess has the photos, but the numbers on the plane where the Dumbartons photos were taken in "Nice" - the plane didn't go to Nice, wasn't anywhere near Sir John's house. So if those were the Dumbartons, then they weren't in Nice on that plane. And if those weren't the Dumbartons, then WTH. Someone or multiple someones lied about something somewhere. Now it's just to find out who and what. This link might take you there: https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/image/187173876519
SwishyFishy said…
@hikari, I really liked Diana a lot and was strangely devastated when she died, probably because it was so easy to see her as a caring woman and mother. That said, she was most definitely not a saint. I agree with the Borderline Personality Disorder, which is a Cluster B disorder. Narcissism is a hallmark feature of all Cluster B disorders. I think Diana could manipulate with the best of them. You only need to see how she masterfully handled the press before and during the divorce and used her emotions to affect public perception. Classic borderline tactic. I never hated Charles for what he did. It was so clear that he was in pain too with the marriage, but people dismissed that because of the stereotypical British stiff upper lip the royals adopt. In the 20 years since Diana's passing, I've gotten over the dislike of Camilla and actually like her and Charles together. I think Camilla has some good qualities. I'd love to see her go toe to toe with Meghan. My money would be on Camilla. You can sense she knows how to fight dirty.
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Anonymous said…
Decoys still don't explain the fact that the plane wasn't in Nice.
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Aquagirl said…
I honestly believe that MM will be gone by the end of the year. There is no relationship between them (I’ve heard they’re at the point where they scream at each other constantly) and as far as I can see, there is no baby. At this point, the BRF cannot be accused of racism. They welcomed her into the family, (even invited her to Christmas before they were married, which Kate was never allowed to do), gave her the big wedding & have been very inclusive of her. She went on the train with the Queen (which, again, Kate never did.) Yet she made them look like fools at every turn & is not fit to do her job. I expect that her ‘past’ will soon be leaked, then the fake pregnancy (which constitutes treason, btw) & she’ll be kicked to the curb. Harry will probably go to Africa for a year or two, in the hopes that people will forgive & forget. I think they’re been waiting for the public’s anger & dislike of her to get to this point, and the time is ripe. Has anyone seen the ridiculous clip of the video/photo shoot from today (8/21)? She’s laughing and giggling hugging people and clapping her hands and looks as if she escaped from an insane asylum. It’s totally cringe-worthy & another PR fail. She’s being slayed on the DM.
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