The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have touched down in South Africa with what appears to be a live, appropriately-sized baby.
Meg was carrying the child correctly, which suggests she has been practicing. She was photographed in a white blouse and white trousers, an unusual choice for a Mom with a messy baby in diapers, but we'll let that go for now.
Harry was his usual rumpled self in a grey wrinkled trousers with a large phone (or passports?) visible in the front pocket, plus those battered brown suede shoes he insists on wearing everywhere he goes.
What are your thoughts?
Meg was carrying the child correctly, which suggests she has been practicing. She was photographed in a white blouse and white trousers, an unusual choice for a Mom with a messy baby in diapers, but we'll let that go for now.
Harry was his usual rumpled self in a grey wrinkled trousers with a large phone (or passports?) visible in the front pocket, plus those battered brown suede shoes he insists on wearing everywhere he goes.
What are your thoughts?
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He hasn't grown at all in two months?
He looks at dozens of babies every day and has developed a skill for telling them apart, and he said the Christening photos featured two different babies.
Kaye C, if you're here, please have your husband check out this new baby as well!
Found this little gem!
As per the ole DM.......She’s mimicked the white bobble hat like Harry wore as a baby.....whilst in Diana’s arms, disembarking a plane in Aberdeen.
Like her moonbump, which would shrink and grow in size, apparently, so does her child.
That being said, I'm glad he is well clothed for Cape Town winter, it gets chilly there. He seems to have been styled like his dad, with the pom-pom hat. We've seen that pic of Diana and Harry in the birthday collage, seems that is the only reference that Mm has of Harry's baby days. Either that, or Kate's inherited all of the Will and Harry's hand-me-down baby clothes for her kids....just like she did all of Diana's good jewellary. Lol
Also, Meg's fillers seem to have settled in by now. Her face looks okish in the blurry pics.
What I noticed was that the bobble hat, besides being a link to Diana, covers the baby's hair.
She may be a " woman if Cor", but she dances like a white girl.
Harry is going bald so fast! He needs some Tufts of red hair aka hair plugs
Perhaps his "vegan" diet is leaving him malnourished.
That tells me all I need to know about how she really feels about her black sisters and brothers.
Is it just me though, or does any one else think it looks exactly like baby Harry from Diana's 'coming down the airplane' photo???
But back home, I think she requires the titles on Insta and in official events because she's insecure around people she perceives with status and needs to elevate herself above them.
Interesting that a few commentators here think it's definitely a different baby 😲👶 I can't tell as the pics are blurry 😏 how convenient, but I will take a closer look if there's any more. Maybe that's why we've not seen many pics at all because MM knows they'll be commented on. Wish the Harkles, "their" child & any other's they may get their hands on would just retire quietly somewhere, so over their unecessary antics & drama 🙅♀️🤦♀️
I seem to recall reading at the time of the wedding that the young man playing the cello was actually invited to perform by Charles, as he had been a scholarship recipient from the Prince's Trust . . . the Prince's Trust, which Charles set up when he was in his 20s (much younger than Harry is now) will be his legacy as Prince of Wales and I don't think he will be able to do anything as sovereign to top it.
In my opinion, the cellist was the highlight of that Wedding Show.
I also recall reading to the effect that Bishop Curry and the gospel choir were also arranged by Charles--perhaps at Meg's directive that she wanted the ceremony to be full of black faces to offset the lily-white guest contingent, except for Serena Williams and the SS Oprah. It would seem counter-intuitive that Charles would have more contacts in the African-American community than Smegs does, but are we truly surprised? Charles has been travelling widely all over the globe since he was 21 years old . . he knows a lot of people in surprising circles. Whether he personally knew Jeffrey Epstein is up for debate, but I rather think not. Chas was unfaithful to Diana with Camilla but apart from his desire to be Cam's tampon once upon a time, there's no sexual or financial perversion attaching to Charles.
A few observations from the photos; clips I saw:
1. For the size of the press corps, that from the looks of it took up an entire jumbo jet by themselves, *these* were the best shots that anyone could get?
2. The child known as Archie seems to be quite a bit older than only 4.5 months. More like 6 months. Also, the little tyke is bundled to within an inch of his life. While conceding that it might have been nippy in the morning when they landed, a winter jacket and long pants seems like a bit of overkill. The white pom-pom hat was a blatant homage to the shot of Harry and Diana selected for the IG. Diana and her baby son were disembarking in Aberdeen. Probably in the winter. If the idea was to merch winter baby clothes for TigTots, it'd sure help if anybody could see him properly. Somebody run over to Meghan's Mirror and see if the white pom hat and any others of Archie's duds are up yet!
3. This child at least seemed alive, unlike the prop baby used at the polo or the WTF?? staged 'pub lunch' pics just posted over the weekend. Do they really think we are all complete morons who are sight-impaired? The entire place was deserted, apart from some people in the foreground who were probably the RPOs. They seriously expect us to believe that that's how a very popular pub looks on a Sunday Bank Holiday weekend. Consider how deserted the best restaurants in your area are at lunchtime on a Labor Day weekend Sunday. The kid's shiny head and inert posture with face turned away from camera was identical to the polo kid. Those pics are about as clear as the ones we got of H.& M. disembarking this morning.
4. I will concede that Meg actually looked nice, and situationally appropriate in the black and white dress, which is a South African label. It's a bit more forgiving than the rest of her recent get-ups, but there's no sign of the Puffy Meg of the large caboose we saw at Wimbledon and even just a few days ago at the Nonoo wedding. Can she inflate and deflate herself at will, too?
5. I can't really say if it's a different Archie. He looks similar to the other photos we've seen, taking into account that he's older and it's a faraway shot. But I still have such a bad feeling in my gut that some kind of monstrous fraud/baby shell game is in progress. Why does she allow him to be seen today (albeit not very well) but not at any other time since the christening?
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“I’m excited to welcome my fellow royals, the duke and duchess, to sunny SA.”
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p.s. home sick with vertigo again so I will be posting a lot. LOL
Meg's got hustle, as we all know by now, and so it's possible that she could have found a gospel choir to import for the occasion by working the phones and the SM. She left the viewers with the (intentional, I'm sure) impression that Bishop Curry was *her* longtime pastor and spiritual advisor and the choir was comprised of people she knew well, from her own church tradition. Even though she attended a Catholic girls' school in LA. Maybe she visited Bishop Curry's church and choir while a student at Northwestern? That's the spin Meg would put on it, anyways.
Well, Marie and I were both half-right: somebody other than Meg arranged for the African-American entertainment at the Corpse Bride wedding. 'Entertainment' is the only word I can use, because it certainly wasn't sacred.
I saw something else interesting while I was over there - they have excerpts from the Tig, which she copyrighted, trademarked, etc. So, either they are paying her for the right to use, or she is definitely running the site.
They don't have a baby section.
I thought this was hilarious. You remember when she looked like an unkept mess at the polo with her green tent dress? That look is available under "polo style" at the web site.
And what a strange name for a web site. It's called Meghan's Mirror but we all can see that she doesn't own a mirror.
In all fairness though, love, all the eyerolling from looking at Meg won't do your virtigo any good. You best stay away from listening to her full speech.
Maybe the plane was cool and she wanted him layered so he could be comfortable in any climate. I’m giving her huge benefit of the doubt right now.
At this point I do not want them to have custody of Archie. He will be messed up for life. Can the world cope with someone who's got the worst traits of both his parents? Not to mention, his life will be hell, with a domineering narcissistic mother and a weak, hedonist father with possible addiction issues. Who is taking care of Archie while his 'parents' gallivant 'round the world?
Now they are saying they are going to get their hooks into 'twin girls'? Lord help them and us all.
So very true. Though her 'celebrity hairstylist' traveling with them seems to have tamed her rats' nest for the time being. He must have extensive experience of wig care.
The TigTots is her next hustle as soon as she can get the Tig back up and running. She'll save up all of Archie's looks and those of the 'twin girls' for then.
I forgot one for my list above:
6. White girls really CAN'T dance. (I should know; I am one . . and based on her dance moves, so is Meghan. Is it the Catholic school influence? hahaha)
Really for someone who studied yoga since she was a preteen and has had movement classes in college, and supposedly made a living as a model, MM has a very awkward body language. She can barely walk in her shoes. I think for people with mental disorders, there is a disconnect between their brains and bodies. I see it in her. Though she looks better today than she has for the last year. But we're just gettin' started, so we shall see what horrors await us over the next nine days.
As for her hair, I would hope that the celebrity hair guru she has traveling with her knows how to do wigs. Megs only looks a real mess when she is responsible for putting herself together. For somebody who's spent nearly 2 decades around show business, she doesn't seem to have picked up many makeup or hair tricks for herself.
But she did look nice today. If only this 'happy families' presentation of today jibed with anything we've been seeing for the last 12 months, I could buy it better.
It was probably pointed out to her that to leave it off would show more sensitivity to her audience. Not just because of the conflict diamonds situation but because it would have looked provocatively flashy in such a poor area. Not down to theft concerns so much as the 'optics' of not appearing to be too ostentatious with the Crown wealth. Her attire was much more simple than anything she wore in Morocco, for example.
There would be insurance concerns, too, yes. Stuff gets lost during travel, and the concern would be less for the members of the public at engagements than loss in transit, or perhaps hotel staff. Celebrities get robbed in places not South Africa, too. Just ask Kim Kardashian.
Feelings are running high and the BRF is a symbol of centuries of supremacist oppression for these people. No point in throwing more petrel on the flames.
I would not travel with my most expensive, precious pieces, either.
(Or maybe she is getting the ring refitted with a much larger authentic bespoke diamond as big as an avocado while in Cape Town... cz you know, de beers!! )
She’s never had them before, other than the ill-fitting bolt-ons she carted around during her suitcase days.
And it’s not like she’s breastfeeding Darren or any of the day player rent-a-tots she occasionally merches with.
I agree . . though that was very early on in her visiting of patronages. She was *very* dressed down the last time we saw her there, looking manic and stoned--when the women weren't supposed to look at her in her eyes. She had on jeans and what looked to be a crumpled shirt of Harry's, hanging out. Classic signs of being under the influence, I think. Can't remember if she wore rings or not.
As Alice pointed out, she may have removed it because it was uncomfortable. Or, there is the chance that she is finally taking some advice about the optics (to use a favorite word of Meg's that I detest personally) of what she wears. Maybe even she can grasp that poor African women don't care about her diamonds and in any case they wouldn't be a suitable audience.
Meg is not known for doing sensible things, but leaving the ring at home safe in London would be the sensible thing to do, even with any whiff of political correctness optics removed. One less thing to worry about. 'Archie' might swallow it and all . . .
The perfect roundness reminds me of the butt pads that she wore to the Smart Works clothing launch.
Her hair without extensions/wig
place.
The reason I'm so certain the SA baby is a lot smaller, is that even with all of his layers of clothing, Megs is carrying him comfortably. She's able to get her arms around the whole baby bundle easily. The reason that the polo pics were so alarming & the baby looked so precarious, was that poor giant baby was too large for Megs to hold comfortably. That baby looked almost as big as 8-9 month old George did on his Australia trip! Take a look at adorable George in Oz being held by one or the other of his parents. Polo baby was of comparable size.
No offense to any of the light-complected gals here who can bust a move. I was making a joke, though I am the last person to criticize anyone's dancing. Kramer moves better than me. :)
It's just odd how uncomfortable Meghan actually appears before the camera . . or I should rather say awkward, considering how she hunts them down like a heat-seeking missile and seems in her element soaking up the attention. I just can't believe she's happy with the footage once she sees it. For someone who achieved a modicum of success in her industry, she's incredibly graceless. We all expected her to have such a huge advantage over Kate in the area of media relations and public speaking, given her background. But I'm increasingly convinced that she failed out of drama school at Northwestern . . where are the cap and gown photos? . . .we've got grad pics of Kate & William . . . and got the modest jobs in the industry she got due to the good old fashioned casting couch . .or floor, in her case. She doesn't even qualify as moderately talented compared to her peers in the acting business but she must toss one hell of a salad.
Do we really suppose Harry kisses that mouth? If he knows what we know . . how could he?
Nothing serious. I have a very strong constitution. Just my neck acts up from time to time.
As for babies, no two are alike. And "...all babies are fussy..." is a rather sweeping generalization. My first was definitely big - 10lbs. at birth - and he would qualify as 'fussy' but that was just the colic and delicate digestive system causing havoc. He's 11, and very laid-back. My next was just as big, but was literally the quietest child ever. Slept through the night beginning at six weeks, nursed like a champ (his brother didn't have the patience), and made us think that we'd won the baby lotto after his brother.
*and I nannied through college to pay bills and buy food. Watched a lot of babies and toddlers before having my own. Just sayin' that doesn't give me the creds to tell anyone how old a baby 'looks' based on a fuzzy photo. Features change, etc., so why this looks like a 'different' baby is probably due to that.
Not as easily manufactured or controlled are the opinions of the people she is talking to when she pontificates as she did today in SA. At Smart Works she had an advantage; she did have her lifestyle blog so she can speak in a convincing way about fashion, etc. But again, what are her credentials for talking to SA women about gender violence? There has to be an element of feeling like an imposter at such an event, and I suspect she does.
Narcissistic individuals expect to be appreciated simply for existing. They believe their own delusions of grandeur. They are used to being able to "convince" others of their qualifications (another poster has mentioned the "love-bombing" they often engage in). MM's family has been cut off and frozen out, because they have questioned some of the things she claims. Narcissists don't expect to be questioned. People who question or fail to be "love-bombed" (William comes to mind) are the ones who get discarded or lashed out against by the narcissist.
You made me laugh at the Archbishop teleporting himself from York to cater to Murky! 😂 He’s a funny little man.
I thought Bishop Curry was one of memorable moments of the entire wedding...for all the wrong reasons. 😳 The Queen didn’t look amused throughout the entire service though.
How the last 18 months have unfolded, does she wonder what she unleashed upon the British public, and I wonder whether she regrets any of it?
I think there is something wrong with her, in terms of health. She has that manly jaw and hands, and the huge feet. Like half as long as they should be.
We can't help what we look like, but we don't also spend 10k on a frock to make us look good. And over a million in one year. And pretend to be a fashion icon when we're just a regular person.
As for the baby, I think a majority disagree with you. It's a different baby.
The only reason that anyone remarks on Meg's appearance is that she has been inundating the web with photos of herself for many years, & seems to have made a career based on being 'hot' in the conventional Hollywood sense. I think she even played a small role where that was what she was called, 'the hot girl.' Her hands & feet would probably not be remarked upon if she didn't so conspicuously place her hands on other people & into the frame of photos she's seen in, & if she didn't wear extremely high heeled, conspicuous & very pricy shoes while she's 'shining a light' on impoverished & disadvantaged women. I'm just sayin'.
"...we don't also spend 10k on a frock to make us look good. And over a million in one year..." - well, that just means we're choosing what to spend money on, yes? She's getting clothes. *shrugs in Kanye*
I think we're all (supporters and detractors alike) foisting our own notions about what kind of a person she is. Fair or not.
As for the child, I (once again) dig my heels. Babies morph all the time. Mine did, my siblings born years after I was did, and my years of nannying tell me so.
I'm trying to understand how *following normal logic* she's out here posing with a doll, or someone else's child for appearances - and all the logistical nightmares that would pose - for what reason again? To troll the public and the Royal Family, and to what end? If she's craving attention as much as we all say she is, wouldn't this be an absolutely WRONG way to go about it? And isn't it the absolute WORST, LEAST FOOL-PROOF idea ever?
Again - not to be a contrarian, but I don't get it. We all have our thoughts on this topic, I guess. :-)
The world press corps does not seem to have been informed, based on the truly sicky making press contingent assembled for this exercise in cluelessness.
Harry's portion of the tour may be official, but Megs is not invited along on those portions. Just like the jewelry box, Megs has screwed herself out of being an official royal. It's being packaged for our consumption, but she's on her own. Hence the tacky capsule collection, the equally tacky magazine, the horrific dress at Missy No-No's wedding, the private flights, the fake pub lunch . . HM is not intervening because she's already washed her hands of the Dumbarton Duo.
Somebody said they wondered if Harry was carrying passports in his pocket. Maybe not . . but perhaps the privilege of travelling without a passport is something which Ma'am has revoked, along with the privy purse funding and housing? They are dancing in front of our plebian eyes and putting on a frantic show, but what if there's nothing actually supporting them any more?
Given that it is downright dangerous to be undertaking this tour given the political unrest and the historically low popularity of the BRF at the moment just further making things even more incendiary--I was amazed that this trip went forward. Presumably if Her Maj cared what the Dumbartons did with themselves or their alleged 7th in line to her throne, she'd have rescheduled this visit, or chosen a less fraught region. Not a peep about the ongoing need in the Commonwealth nation of Bahamas has been heard from BP beyond the initial statement, do we notice this?
As for the supposed paid engagements, I won't put it past them, but it's going to be tricky getting someone to pay them to speak while on a Royal tour. Maybe they'll ask for donations for their foundation, a la Disney and lion king. I'm sure it will happen in some way, somehow, just rains to be seen when and where...
Redhead’s are born red heads, never blonde. It just changes shades as they grow older. Trust me I know.
5 nannies, a masseuse, A STYLIST FOR ARCHIE, and a photographer for him:
https://twitter.com/julesverne12345/status/1176243585227927554
I am getting sick and tired of the preachy coming over here to make us adjust our thinking to their preferences.
Buckingham Palace
22nd September, 2019
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex this evening departed from Heathrow Airport, London, for South Africa.
Ms Samantha Cohen and Ms Sara Latham are in attendance.
this!
Does this whole Archie thing make sense? No? Why? Because you are sane.
Trust the evidence in front of your eyes, i.e. the swaying bump, increasing and decreasing in size, changing in shape. That's the only evidence you can understand because the rest is too insane.
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23rd September, 2019
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex this morning arrived at Cape Town International Airport and were subsequently received at the Residence in Cape Town by the British High Commissioner to the Republic of South Africa (His Excellency Mr Nigel Casey).
His Royal Highness, President, The Queen’s Commonwealth Trust, and Her Royal Highness, Vice-President, this afternoon visited Justice Desk, Nyanga Methodist Church, Nyanga, Cape Town.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex afterwards visited District Six Museum, 25A Buitenkant Street, Zonnebloem, Cape Town.
Their Royal Highnesses later visited District Six Homecoming Centre, 15A Buitenkant Street, Zonnebloem.
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@ Mischi - you certainly do have the right to your opinions. I was trying to parse through a whole lot of opinions - opinions you clearly felt comfortable about expressing on Al Gore's internet, and not just yours! - to understand the root of the issues everyone's talking about here. Simple as. If you feel judged, meh. I don't know you, you don't know me, and Cthulhu knows this isn't a hill worth getting bent all the way over for. Rest assured that none of what I'm saying disrespected you in any way, shape or form, so I hope that takes care of that "...sick and tired..." feeling you're experiencing.
https://springbrad.tumblr.com/post/187901843601/a-little-top-up
FTR, I LOVE OPINIONATED WOMEN. We don't have to agree on anything at all, really :-)
The black and white dress from a local company was appropriate. Wearing independent designers us one way she can make a difference. That company couldn't afford the publicity she provided.
Ditching the French and Italian couture for Brit. and independent designers would help her image AND the companies whose clothes she wears.
It is a British island, but the news says nothing about British relief efforts. I am not sure if there is a lack of British support or if it is not covered in the news. I searched British papers and haven't seen any coverage.
I am confused, not trying to be critical.
The Sussex tour brings attention to life in South Africa. I would be afraid to be there now. This is a more appropriate use of their pr power than tennis matches, jet setting, celebrity events, etc. The first day is better than other public appearances, imo.
We can disagree on things, but why judge? Why does she feel entitled to come here and judge us on what we are saying?
The behavior and photos during the pregnancy don't make sense.
It is puzzling. I want to know the truth.
People are sympathetic to fertility issues, health conditions, marital stress.... but not about deceit and fraud.
Basketball Boobs on display were an unwelcome surprise, though. Either she's had work done, or that's one magical push-up bra.
I think using Archie to cosplay the Di/Harry airport shot she collaged for H's birthday was a new low, even for her. I want to see the baby move, and I want to see her holding it frontwards. Betting that never happens, though.
Further predictions: we see drunk/high Megs at some point, there's behind-the-scenes fighting that gets leaked later, she's horrid to at least one staff/employee/local helper, she makes a hideous breach of protocol (probably involving food or manners with dignitaries), and Harry goes a bit wild whilst on his separate itinerary.
You are WAY TOO PRESSED about this. WAY.
Alice commented on the size of the child and I responded with my anecdote. She isn't climbing walls because SHE KNOWS SHE ISN'T BEING VILIFIED ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. I presented my own facts, she presented hers. FIN.
We can't help how we look. That's what I said to you. Them's facts. Nobody puts in applications to the creator/universe to ask for a particular set of body parts of features. FACT. That girl can't help what she looks like, which was the general gist of my entire post.
There is NOTHING unpleasant about that statement or anything else I said, at all. And if there is, somebody point me in the direction of that 'unpleasant' offense. Nobody's judging you. Nobody's vilifying you for "...gossiping on a gossip forum...'
And like I said, everyone's been very pleasant and nice on here. I've read this blog for MONTHS. SILENTLY. You don't know me, so I don't need to check in with you. You're not the gatekeeper here, and this is the WORLD WIDE WEB. This blog is open to anyone with access thereto. Ergo, people check in and out all the time. Some stop and post, others not so much. If there were rules on #s of posts, they'd have been set out plainly. Nutty Flavor hasn't once said that for one to respond to post they need to have "...their name on here..."
For some reason you feel like you're in my head, and can tell that I'm judging '...us...' Where in all of this did I say or imply that I'm "...offended..."???
Alternative opinions aren't judgments. Facts aren't judgments. And I'll say it again for the folks sitting in the back of the room - everyone here is fairly nice, polite and respectful. You got bent out of shape over a non-factor.
I guess we try to destroy the ones we envy.
She reminds me of the Ed Sullivan Show, a variety tv program here in the US in the 1960s. He often featured novelty acts like you might see in a circus. One act he featured was a guy who spun dinner plates atop very tall poles. He started out with one spinning plate, which was easy to keep spinning. But as he added plates spinning atop more and more poles until he had perhaps a couple dozen whirling away at the same time, so many plates caused him to rush around to keep the plates from crashing to the floor in a million pieces.
Meghan has a lot of plates spinning. After not even two years since the engagement, the plates are already crashing to the floor. Watching a narc try to maintain control and start losing on this scale is interesting.
Never forget: “Being 'ethnically ambiguous', as I was pegged in the industry, meant I could audition for virtually any role. Morphing from Latina when I was dressed in red, to African American when in mustard yellow.” - Nutmeg in Elle, 2016
and Mischi - please, settle down.
We’ve been wondering about the vaccinations necessary for such a trip and would we as mothers subject out own children to it. As some of you know, babies are born with a bit of immunity passed via the mothers blood during her pregnancy. It lasts 3-6 months and can be extended if she is still passing antibodies by breast feeding. I seriously doubt there has been any breastfeeding going on except possibly by the birth mother. Since we know nothing about any childhood diseases she may or may not have had or any immunizations she received we can only guess. The CDC recommends the following vaccines if one wishes to travel to South Africa: Yellow fever but not before one is nine months old. Hepatitis A and B at one year of age. Typhus (oral, attenuated) at six years. This is a teeny tiny dose of a live pathogen. Injectable (inactive) at two years. Rabies vaccine can be administered at six weeks of age. Malaria is dependent on body weight only and Archie weighs just enough to the 5-8 kg limit. Those are the immunizations that most of us never have to have unless we are traveling. He hopefully began a series of MMR ( mumps, measles and rubella at two and four months followed by another at six months. DPT (diphtheria, polio and tetanus) ant two, four and six months too. Considering that he isn’t old enough for most of those preventative immunizations, did they really drag an infant to Africa? I remember my babies running a low grade fever with their DPTs and MMRs and I’ve heard military men discussing how lousy they felt after receiving the more exotic shots. I hated having to subject mine to it but I remember walking up to my grade school for a dose of oral polio vaccine on a sugar cube when I was little and there were people still using iron lungs or leg braces because polio was so devastating. Yes, there had been a particularly virulent strain making the rounds before Jonas Salk’s miracle. We had to have smallpox vaccinations back then too. When I went back to school in the ‘90’s they asked for my shot records. I didn’t have any because there were no vaccines. We all had the diseases.