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What's up at Frogmore? Plus 2 new angles to the Meghan story

Not quite four months ago, this blog posed the question of Frogmore Cottage, where Meghan and Harry supposedly live but where none of the locals has seen anyone come or go.

No construction vehicles, no supply vehicles, no waste removal vehicles, and certainly no Royals.

Since then, there have been numerous articles detailing the Sussexes' glamorous life in the cottage, which is located on a swamp, looking out on a graveyard, directly under the Heathrow flight path and perilously close to a public road. (An odd location for a family so worried about security that they are forced to fly on private planes.)

However, I've yet to hear about any local sightings of the Sussexes. Have you?

More money put into the cottage

Instead, the past week has brought two new stories about ongoing improvements at Frogmore Cottage.

One suggested that Harry and Meghan were putting in an 4000 pound outdoor barbeque area at Frogmore.

Barbeque areas work great in Mailbu, where Meghan supposedly really wants to live, but they are chancey with the British weather. Outdoor cooking is really only suitable from May to perhaps early September, and from mid-July on your guests will be feasting on barbeque while the mosquitos feast on your guests. (Frogmore is a swamp.)

Why is more money being put into a residence where it appears that no one currenly lives, and in fact no royal person may ever live?

The house was originally being fitted for Royal staff members, who will likely be the ones to inherit it whenever Harry and Meghan either move abroad, divorce, or convince King Charles III to give them something fancier.

Garden alternations

In addition, the Sussexes made some changes to Frogmore Cottage's approved garden arrangement without telling the local council. They are now applying for retroactive approval.

This may seem like a small thing, but it's part of a pattern with the Sussexes of ignoring the rules when they feel like it.

Refusing to announce the names of Archificial's godparents, which hard-working reporters discovered is legally required even for Royals, is another example. (It was suggested this week that PR lady Izzy May, who accompanied Soho House's Markus Anderson to the Sussex wedding, may be Archificial's godmother.)

At any rate, it's hard not to wonder how many rules and regulations are being shortcutted in the setup and operations of the Sussex Foundation.

More press drumbeats against the Sussexes

The British press has continued its low-key negative coverage of the Sussexes, which is part of a triangle of difficulty for the Royal Family that includes the Queen's role in Brexit and the continuing disclosure of Prince Andrew's misbehavior and ties to suicided sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein.

However, two major US outlets ran slightly negative stories about the Duchess of Sussex connected with last week's unveiling of her unimpressive "capsule collection" of garments that were already available elsewhere. (And in the case of the cheap-looking M&S dresses, had already been available for more than a year.)

Both the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times raised questions about the collection, which the Los Angeles outlet called "so generic it is tabloid-proof" and referred to Meghan as "a duchess who invested in her own public image."

Could this be a break in what has been largely positive coverage of Meghan in the US?

There have also been trial balloons sent out that Meghan and Harry will do a sit-down tell-all with Gayle King to address the "unfair criticism against them."

Small violins all over town are being booked in advance of what will inevitably be a right Royal self pity party.

New image of Archificial

Finally, Harry's birthday on Sunday, September 15 was an occasion for the @SussexRoyal Instagram account to release a brand-new image of Archificial.

Or new to the public, at least. The image was part of the shoot for Archificial's baptism in early July, although image data at the time revealed that at least some of the baptism photos were taken in early May.

Even if this shot was taken in July, that would make it more than two months old, which is a rather odd choice for besotted new parents. If babies change a lot in two weeks, as Harry bumblingly said at the birth announcement, they change even more in two months.

Don't they have iPhones? Aren't they taking new shots several times a day of Archificial doing something adorable?

Most new parents tend to overshare, not undershare, images of their newborns, particularly their first child.

But those parents, of course, have custody of their babies.

Maybe the Sussexes don't.



Comments

Girl with a Hat said…
hey Nutty! thank you for taking the time for creating a new thread for us. It is much appreciated. Now we can discuss away!

This is so off topic but I hope you can appreciate it. This is the pic of Harry sulking at a public event with William and Catherine that I was talking about previously but did not provide a link.

https://twitter.com/BananaScribbler/status/1173133409918566400
Nutty Flavor said…
That's a funny image! It would be great to know the story behind it.

Also interesting that the Royal Family used no images of Meghan in Harry's birthday greetings.

I noticed that the previous thread got a little out of hand near the end, and I had to delete a few comments, which I rarely do.

Please, Nutties, be respectful of each other. Thank you!

Girl with a Hat said…
I am not surprised they didn't use any photos of Meghan. Firstly, it would be hard to find a good recent one, and then they would get accused of trying to shame her.

Secondly, I doubt anyone has the intestinal fortitude to linger over an image of hers to choose one. I know I wouldn't. I am so over Markled.

Speaking of photos, there hasn't been enough emphasis put on the photos of her recent appearance where she is trying to tame her excess of artificial hair. I've seen a few memes on twitter that were hilarious.

Has she no idea that the over over abundance of fake hair makes her look odd? She seemed so proud of "her" hair at that event. I am thinking more and more that she suffers from body dysmorphia because she sees herself in a distorted way.
Fifi LaRue said…
Nutty, the latest People magazine featured Kate Middleton on the cover, with a title something like "Princess Mom." Also there was a logo of a crown. I wonder if Markle failed to make her full payment to People, and this was the magazine's way of revenge.
This is off topic and I do apologise. This is a new article in the DM, could this be the work of Murky’s SS team? The story was originally in Vogue and I personally cannot recall any topless story about Diana, then it brings up the story of Catherine being photographed on holiday in the South of France with William, on a private property

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7465723/Prince-William-upset-Princess-Diana-topless-picture-scandal.html
JL said…
I would sulk too. It’s very rude to talk past someone like that. Am sure Kate was aware but the other guy wasn’t. Hate when people do that. You ar trapped and they can’t be bothered yo include you either. The worst.
Oh goodness, a sit down chat with the Sussex’s and Gale King! More like a pity party.

Let’s hope the rather more truthful American press continues with the negative press about the Sussex’s!
Girl with a Hat said…
JL, Catherine is on very good terms with Harry. I think that Catherine was trying to fix the situation and wasn't provoking it. It's funny that you thought Catherine was at fault. She would try to include Harry in the conversation unless it was already obvious that he wasn't interested.
Girl with a Hat said…
A lot of American chat shows are pity parties. Sometimes, I find that the people that are the most deserving of sympathy are the ones who don't want it. They've decided that they will try to overcome adversity by their own means. Chat shows aren't full of these people.
Too bad it probably won’t be shown over here if it does go ahead. The Sussex’s aren’t taking the Queen’s own initiative when dealing with bad press etc., that is ‘never complain and never explain’. They would be better to simply shut up, because they never own any of their appalling behaviour.
skydives1 said…
Did anyone else feel that the whole Smart Works charade, with the video and roll out, resembled The Emperor's New Clothes? I was expecting a little more after that video and her over-the-top fawning
Nutty Flavor said…
Could be! My guess is that Kate just sells magazines. Pretty lady with pretty kids, and a break from all the doom and gloom surrounding the Royal Family at the moment.
marjorie said…
When it comes to why the RF is allowing Meagain to continue bulldozing her way through and making her own rules, it all boils down to the RF finding a way to get around being called RACIST. The racist card will be the crux of the GayleKing interview. Honestly, I'm sick and tired of anyone getting away with breaking the rules and/or breaking the law because of their skin color... and the fear of being called the "R" word!
JL said…
Mischi I must have expressed myself poorly. What I meant was that I am sure Catherine was aware that it’s bad form so that she corrected the situation as soon as she could. What I was trying to say is that it was probably the other guy who was so anxious to have a word with Kate he didn’t know that it is rude. What I usually do in those situations if they go on too long is excuse myself rather than fume as Harry did.
Nutty Flavor said…
I think that's what both the LA Times and NYT were pointing out. The Telegraph's Head of Fashion got the thankless job of having to praise the collection - I wonder what negotiations were behind that.

("What I can tell you is that Meghan looked darn good in her non-Givenchy-couture. She was very keen on this idea of creating a capsule for Smart Works. ‘Those key pieces you can mix and match,’ she explained. ‘We all know that right. Then suddenly you have ten outfits.’" ) Ten outfits?

Otherwise I agree that there was really not much to write about, except Meg's jeremiad against the lilac blazers other people had donated to SmartWorks.
Nutty Flavor said…
It's a powerful word, but becoming increasingly less powerful with overuse.

I don't think blaming all of Meg's failures on racism will necessarily fly with the Black community in the US - most Black Americans have seen enough real-life racism to sort out the fake stuff. And I see no real evidence that the Black community is buying into (biracial) Meghan as a Black heroine.

What I think Meg is probably hoping for is that the far-left types who populate much of the US media - the Sarah Jeongs of the world - will buy in.

I don't think they will. The overspending and designer labels are a turnoff for them. If Meg really had been a humanitarian heroine, they'd be behind her all the way, but she's not, and the more they find out about her the less they like her.
You aren’t alone. It’s as if anyone of any colour other than white is now deemed above criticism, and if a person does go there, they’re called a racist. I have no idea how the Royal Family will get round this. I think both Harry and Murky have used the ‘r’ card from day one, and will continue to.

@Nutty, it will interesting to see how this plays out in the end.
JL said…
What to say about the charade at Frogmore? I am at a loss. I would like to note that the Instagram birthday greetings from the various houses to Harry today: Buckingham, Kensington, Clarence all omitted mention of Harry’s role in the family or firm.
Seems to be standard practice to add a little something. Someone pointed this out regarding Meghan’s birthday greeting from everyone. And here it is again. Wonder if it signals they are really out.
Nutty Flavor said…
Which is probably why the Royal Family decided to "let her dig her own grave" with mistake after mistake after mistake.

Even The Guardian is figuring out now that Meg isn't much of a heroine.

And I don't buy the PR story that "young people love Harry and Meghan."

Young people love Ariana Grande, K-Pop, and Stranger Things.

Two mid-30s/early-40s Royals with unimpressive fashions? Nah.
Mrs Trestle said…
Thanks for another thread Nutty. I love this blog and enjoy hearing others' take on this situation.
I know Frogmore very well. It is located inside Windsor Great Park which covers miles much of which is open to the public. We lived quite near (we've moved away since we retired 6 years ago) and I often walked my dog there. At the time Frogmore was empty (had been for years) and was quite dilapidated, but you could just push open the gate and walk around. So being nosy I did.
The windows are small and peering through on the ground floor, the rooms were all poky and dark. I wouldn't live there if they gave it me for nothing.
You're right, Nutty, about the garden. It's a bog because there are streams running under the ground so when you walk on it it's spongy. Horrible in the winter months. And that's why there are so many frogs there hence it's name. You can hear them quite clearly in the early evenings. The garden isn't that big either so I don't know where this BBQ area would go, to be honest.
You can easily see Victoria and Albert's mausoleum from the garden which I wouldn't like because that is quite a creepy
building. Perhaps that's why I see they have applied to have a screen of trees put in. They have also been granted retrospective planning permission by the local council for the work they had done without planning permission. Surprise, surprise!
I have a friend who still lives in the area and dog walks there. She has told me it's empty. She's never seen sight nor sound of anyone. Although the electric bars/gate has been erected she has never seen it manned which it should be.
Nelo said…
Majorie, I think you have answered my questions about why the royal family seems to be powerless against Meghan; they don't want to be called racists.
Unfortunately, the queen was with Andrew again today to show the world he has her support. She shouldn't be seen to be openly supporting Andrew until the Epstein issues blows over at least. She's giving Meghan stans more ammunition against the Royal family as they justify why Meghan needed to 'snub' going to Bamoral because of her support for Andrew. That's already the narrative on sites like Celebitchy. If she wants to continue supporting Andrew so openly, then anything done against Meghan will be seen as double standards.
Quentin Letts said on Twitter that his friend was told not to discuss the Sussexes during a horse ride with the queen. The post has been picked up by the Sun.
As per Gayle's planned interview with the Sussexes, I feel strongly that it will happen, it not, of what use is Sunshine Sachs?
About the royal family's bday tribute to Harry, I don't see the need to to include Meghan's picture. During Charles bday, was Camilla's pic included? Can't remember.
Mrs Trestle said…
I read The Telegraph online and they are not allowing any comments on Markle articles any more. Not surprised as they were overwhelmingly negative, but it is annoying. They had four articles on the ridiculous fashion launch.
Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for your input. You've raised another important point - if Harry and Meghan were living there with Archificial, wouldn't there be a substantial security presence as well? Surely such senior members of the Royal Family would require it.

What's so odd is the continuing stream of publicity about expensive renovations to Frogmore when nothing seems to have been done. Where did that money go? Was it spent somewhere else, or not spent at all?

And why hasn't the British media written about what every local seems to know?
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Speaking of words.

"Unfair" is such a cheap choice of word for someone who employs such an expensive PR firm...
Nutty Flavor said…
Interestingly, the Telegraph was also the source for the reporting that Amy Pickerill was at the launch. I haven't seen any photos of her, however.

I wonder if the Telegraph reported something they shouldn't have and needed to work their way back into the Sussexes' good graces to avoid legal action.
Liver Bird said…
I'm probably in the minority here in that I do think Archie exists and I do think Meghan gave birth to him, though possibly earlier than the 'official' date. I think the lack of photos of him is a combination of a) Harry's petulance regarding the British press and b) a wish to manipulate the media in the manner of a minor reality star by drumming up interest in him via sneak peaks and the odd tidbit from 'friends' saying how cute he is.

As for Toad Hall, well, it seems obvious that they are not living there and never have. My only questions are a) why is the media - which has it in for these two big time- not at least dropping hints about this and b) if not Frogmore, then where are they living? I highly doubt it's in Kensington or Buckingham Palace, and if they were in some private London property, wouldn't there have been sightings of them and/or their security entourage by now?
Mrs Trestle said…
Nutty, it's a mystery to me. I mean where are their staff for goodness sake?
I have some contacts in the national media from my working days. From what they tell me I get the impression they've been asked to hold off for now which is why I think something is going down. It will be interesting to see if the SA trip goes ahead.
I’m in agreement that Archie exists, but wonder why he’s never seen.

Agree, where on earth are the Sussex’s actually residing, and why the lie if no one is living at Frogmore? Perhaps they are still at Nottingham cottage.
Nutty Flavor said…
It certainly suggests that someone knows about as-yet-unreleased nude photos of Meghan and wants to frame them with the idea that "all the Royal ladies have been seen nude. Nothing to see here, folks."
PaulaMP said…
I love how we get the "inside" story from Brits who have actually got first hand knowledge of things, instead of the made up media stories. Thank you!!
Nutty Flavor said…
Interesting! I rather hope the SA trip doesn't go ahead, for the sake of the South Africans more than the Sussexes.

I'm also on record hoping that "Archificial", whatever his true parentage, is in the custody of a kind, loving, and secure family, not the Sussexes.
Girl with a Hat said…
it's funny that I interpret it in a complete different manner. I see that Catherine felt uncomfortable for the poor person sitting beside Harry sulking so she decided to speak to him.
Nutty Flavor said…
Lots of gossip that Harry is still at Nott Cott and Meghan is elsewhere.

And if Archie exists, he doesn't seem to be in the custody of the Sussexes, who as of now appear to have no domestic help to take care of him, and travel abroad frequently.

Meg saying she had to rush off an hour after her return from maternity leave for Archie's "feed time" was just too much.

Have the little fellow wait in the John Lewis lounge if necessary and then take a break to feed him, or pump a bit and have Harry give him a bottle.

It's not like this fashion event was spontaneous and unexpected.
Girl with a Hat said…
Mrs Trestle, I am seriously considering cancelling my Telegraph subscription because, as is evident from the articles about "Meghan's" collection, they don't print the truth, even if it's so patently obvious.
Girl with a Hat said…
if you want to find out what Meghan's defence will be, simply go read Lainey Lee. She is Meghan's ventriloquist puppet. She has used racism in every single instance where Meghan was criticised. At the TTC - no one spoke to Meghan and tried to block her from HM? racism. She wasn't white enough to be seen beside the Queen. and so on ad nauseum.
Lurking said…
Do they have a twitter account? I'm only finding fan accounts and parodies.
Liver Bird said…
It also made a mockery of the whole 'back from maternity leave' line. Aside from the fact that maternity leave isn't really relevant for any royal woman, given that they barely work at all, if - as she claimed - she was rushing to get back to feed her baby then that means she is still on 'maternity leave'. After all, once a typical woman returns to work she has to arrange childcare for her baby, not drop everything when he/she needs a feed. Plus, this event was what - 2 hours start to finish including transport - and at a time and date entirely of Meghan's choosing. She probably thought she would sound 'relatable' by saying this, but as so often with her, it backfired and just made her sound even more out of touch.
HappyDays said…
Mrs. Trestle, Thank you for your comment. It would be great if your friend who still lives near Frogmore can keep you updated on the presence or lack of presence of anyone actually living there.

Check mylittlepetal on Twitter. She all but shouts it’s her account. There are several photos of outdoor areas from her (or more likely the nanny’s) walks with Archie. Do any look familiar to you? One of of ducks in water.

As far as the interior of Frogmore when you peeked in, I am guessing they knocked down all sorts of non-load-bearing walls to open it up to a more modern floor plan.

After all, it’s difficult to put a large hand-hammered brass tub in the midst of the master bedroom unless the room is large. Who wants to get out of bed in the middle of night and fall into the bath tub? However, it would be quite funny!
Nutty Flavor said…
Nope - Kevin Keiley, the man they stole the @SussexRoyal Instagram handle from, still has the @SussexRoyal Twitter handle.

He tweets about nothing in particular, but he's had the handle for longer than Harry has been Duke of Sussex.
CookieShark said…
I also wondered if it had a certain person's fingerprints all over it. Since she joined the RF, there has been a deluge of negative press about other members of the RF. Of course it could be a coincidence.
Liver Bird said…
"That's already the narrative on sites like Celebitchy."

The Celebitchy crowd are certifiably insane though. They could kidnap any of the posters' first-born child and they'd still say she was a saint.

So really, who cares what they think? The notion that anyone in the world's most prestigious monarchy knows or cares about some 'woke' American gossip site is laughable.

"As per Gayle's planned interview with the Sussexes, I feel strongly that it will happen, it not, of what use is Sunshine Sachs?"

For members of the royal family to give an interview to an American network, and slag off their own country and even the royal family itself, would be an enormous blunder. Pretty much unprecedented and utterly stupid even by the standards of the gruesome twosome.
Nutty Flavor said…
At any rate, Mischi, I agree with you about the wig. I'm notoriously poor at figuring out when someone is wearing a wig or a toupé, but hers is pretty obvious.

And it's not even an attractive wig - it's Party City Halloween costume level.

I thought the whole idea behind a wig was to have beautifully-done hair with minimal effort, particularly for older women, Raquel Welch style.

Lurking said…
Ah. Was wondering, because it says deactivated. Thank you for responding.
Who could be behind the lies of Frogmore? If it turns out it’s vacant and still derelict, won’t there be egg on faces...but who’s? KP? BP?


Oh the whole ‘ I must get back to feed Archie’, was indeed farcical! As so many of the DM commenters noted, she didn’t mind her trip to NYC, but no mention of Archie.
Nutty Flavor said…
Still active when I look at it. https://twitter.com/Sussexroyal
CookieShark said…
Their presentation as parents is so very odd. Her original statement that she knew of a baby that came 5 weeks early, so anything might happen, was just bizarre. As you say, Liver Bird, it was meant to be relatable, but it wasn't. Any pregnant woman knows their due date and knows there is no way they want the baby to come that early. The press conference with Archie was very strange, Harry kept jostling him and it appeared he was trying to 1) block the camera's steady view or 2) make it appear that he moved. Meghan was also stroking the head in a strange way the whole time, again appearing as if she were trying to obstruct the camera's view of Archie. Most new parents would hold the baby up or turn him towards the camera to show every angle.

Their actions following the birth haven't made sense either. Even with the help of staff and nannies, the couple have rolled out the Vogue issue, Travalyst, the Smart Works collection and managed to make several overnight trips in the weeks since his birth. Best case scenario, they are incredibly energized people but it still appears they are ignoring the first few months of their son's life while promoting their own projects. Harry and Meghan could have easily let other staff promote Travalyst (Travesty)? and Smart Works instead.
Emily said…
Liver Bird, I think there is an Archie some where, but Meghan was never pregnant. Too many pictures and videos showing the bump fold, slide down, big one day, smaller the next, swinging from side to side when walking. It even disappeared for a night in New York so she could get drunk. What an thoughtful bump. I dont know how this is going to pan out in the coming years. The RF are also going to get dragged into this with people accusing them of deceiving the public intentionally. Certainly this is going to be a huge crisis and more calls for a republic. Shame really
HappyDays said…
Lurking,
Look at Thislittlepetal on Twitter. Good chance it’s Meghan. It seems to be a replacement for one called M_Mount_Win that was taken down around August 1, 2019. It seems to be a “secret” Meghan account. If it’s not her account, someone is trying to make people think it’s Meghan.
@Nutty, I’m also hopeless at spotting wigs, extensions etc., even when they are pointed out to me, I still struggle to notice any difference. Is this why Murky has a very white centre parting line?
Girl with a Hat said…
LOL. Yes, Halloween is a good association for that wig. There was one pic where she bent forward to try to deal with the mess of her hair, and she looked some sort of scary creature. There are lots of women of colour who have great hair in a variety of different styles. Why can she not consult one of them for help instead of looking like she's wearing horse hair?
abbyh said…
Thanks for the visual walk around the cottage (and the comments about security). It does not sound quiet.

The negative USA press: a trickle, but it exists. I think most of the USA population does not have her on their radar so it is a tiny blip in the media over all. She's far away. Just not part of their day to day world or what they see in the papers at the checkout stand. If she moved back, then the daily articles would raise her visibility. Given her often negative behavior, it would not take long for the negative articles to go out (not certain about the superinjunction but the USA press aren't as interested in maintaining ties to the Palace).

Do I think the Gail King interview will happen? maybe. The thing about it is that it will be over in a media minute unless one of them says something like "... the family she never had.".

What about the charge of racism? America seems to have become a place where the charge of racism gets airplay daily in the news. I'm not convinced that if you are fleeing racism, America is the promised land.
skydives1 said…
I was looking at celebitchy earlier for their take on Meghan's capsule , thinking they had to see how subpar it is. Nope, they think the "collection" is the best thing since sliced bread.
The article smacks and reeks of nastiness. If SS and Murky are behind it..I really have no words, only total disgust. Even if the Diana bit is true (I don’t think it is), it’s Harry’s Mother as well as William’s, such a low, low blow.

@Cookie, agree. 😔
Mrs Trestle said…
Mischi, yes I feel the same, but it has some great columnists, Sherelle Jacobs, who is brilliant, Asa Bennett, and Charles Moore. I'm going to send them an email telling them what I think of their policy on Ms Markle.
JenS said…
Great post, Nutty, as always. Thanks so much for what you do, and for providing a forum for everyone to discuss. I love it that the discussions here are civil and intelligent.

Here's my theory: Megs controls her PR no matter who she hires/fires. The FrogCott and Archificial stories are part of the "oh so happy, so in love, blessed family" narrative. She dribbles out stories every few weeks to keep it in the news cycle and on people's minds. She must not understand that loads of people are on social media getting the truth from locals about FrogCott, or she thinks shouting racism will stop the press from publishing it.

I think they borrowed/rented a baby for the christening photo shoot, (which we know did not happen on 6 July from metadata on the images), and perhaps digitally altered its features a bit. The baby can hold its head up and sit up, which a two-month old can't do. It's also too big for a two-month old. We haven't seen any full-facial images of the baby other than the ones from this photo shoot, which is very dodgy. Why wouldn't they include a more recent image for Harry's birthday? Never using Archie's name is odd, too.

It all smacks of them trying to cover up that they don't have an actual infant living with them (for whatever reason). They're trapped now, and M is still scrambling for a solution. I suspect SA tour is about sourcing a suitable baby. If she gets one, we'll start to see more images.

Maybe this is how she's forcing Harry to keep up the sham marriage until she wants to go; if his complicity in this mess comes out, he'll be ruined, at least for several years. She could use it to get a bigger divorce settlement when she's ready to leave, too.
JenS said…
Also, it doesn't matter that the renovations were never done. She filed the paperwork to get them approved, and perhaps can get extensions or explain that they changed their minds later. As long as people *think* they're living in FC as a happy little family, that's all she wants.
Liver Bird said…
I'll be very interested to see what the Celebitchy line is if or when the Sussexes divorce. After all,they used to think Brad Pitt was the greatest man ever to grace the earth, but since the divorce, they think he is evil personified. I could see them turning on Harry just as quickly, and of course they'll have the good 'ol' racism excuse to fall back on.
Mrs Trestle said…
HappyDays, your last comment made me laugh. Don't worry, she'll keep me posted. We talk regularly on the phone and she and her husband have been to visit. She and I stayed up very late discussing all this. I haven't been able to travel for some time as I've been ill, but I'm getting better and it's only two hours from where we are now. Nothing by American standards of distance. You've given me an idea. I've told my husband we'll go this week and I'll report back.
I'll also check out the twitter feed, although I'm not good at twitter, and let you know.
CookieShark said…
The population over at CB seems deranged indeed. The posts are almost always about MM, and anything less than praise about her is met with "You're wrong and you're a troll."
Mrs Trestle said…
Louise500, Frogmore certainly appears vacant, but it's not derelict. Work has been done on it apparently. It's all very odd. I don't know where they are, but there are various rumours flying around.
Nutty Flavor said…
Wonderful! We look forward to your report.
Liver Bird said…
Yes exactly. I used to like it but it doesn't live up to its name anymore - it's not really a gossip site anymore at all. Half the posts are about Meghan and how wonderful and how unfairly victimised by the evil racist Brits she is, the other are about Kate and how boring and lazy she is, constantly conspiring about Meghan because the future queen is so 'jealous' of the mother of the 7th in line.

I think they are typical of Americans who really have no clue about British society and the role played by the role family. Like a lot of Americans - sorry if that offends any Americans posting here - they seem to think that what is true for America is or should be true for everywhere else, and as a result are very ignorant of the world outside their borders.
Girl with a Hat said…
as per the comments at the DM, no one believes they are living at Frogmore.
Bardsey said…
@Nutty - yeah, it's weird how Meghan is marketed as hip & young. She's older than Diana was at the time of her death. I was about 14 then, and rightly or wrongly Diana seemed very much part of my parent's generation. She was interesting and beautiful but I definitely saw her as an "adult." Meghan would be wise to drop the insta-influencer social-media-aficinado persona and instead act like an adult with some gravitas, who isn't in need of likes with the cool kids. The cool kids grow up and become adults or they become kind of pathetic. It's time for her to grow up.

On the CB notes: I think it would be great if we could avoid how crazy their commenters are but you can't. Their style of emotional blackmail in lieu of argument is dominating our society. I go to read CB to find out what talking points will dominate the next few months. Learning how to push back against their brand of McCarthyism is important to our future. I hope the RF won't be held hostage by the likes of their shrill attacks and learns to ridicule them as mercilessly as they deserve. Until we all do that our future will get progressively bleaker and nastier.
Mom Mobile said…
Mrs. Trestle, I'm quite looking forward to your report. Please let us know if you need any help with the Twitter feed.
TTucker said…
There's an article on grifters in the NY Times: The Distinctly American Ethos of a Grifter. It is not about MM, but explains what her mindset and future development could be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/t-magazine/the-distinctly-american-ethos-of-the-grifter.html

Lurking said…
The M_Mount_ account posted that they weren't Meghan but having laughing at people who thought it was her. Could be same person.
Catty said…
So true - Kaiser & her loon army at Celebitchy are a joke on every other site I comment on & being banned is a badge of honor - God forbid they listen to rational arguments from the other side - NOPE - the "woke" people love banning & bullying people into adopting their mindset. And that site's numbers have plummeted due to Kaiser - used to be hundreds of comments on every article - hell Angelina (another one Kaiser is in love with) articles would get 500 comments back when her & Brad first started now a Meghan article is lucky to get 200 & that's with the same people commenting over & over again. Nobody takes them seriously so who cares if they are receiving "ammunition"? They make shit up anyway to support their "racist" narrative.
Ava C said…
What an amazing clip. I interpreted it as Harry having had a major meltdown and Kate and the other guy trying to do what they can. As if they've offered lots of calming, reasonable comments directly to Harry already and are now reduced to talking to each other, and agreeing with each other, as a reinforcement to what they've been saying to Harry. It's not working but I think they're stuck because it's a public place.

It certainly is an indication of what the BRF are dealing with as I doubt he has changed much since then. Seems almost inevitable that a manipulator would get him in the end. They would have needed him under 24-hour guard instead of 24-hour protection to stop that from happening.
Catty said…
Thank you Mrs. Trestle for that info - quite informative - glad you are feeling better!
@Liver, I agree with everything you say, and as a Brit myself, I hasten to add that there are also some truly misinformed and ignorant Brits out there too, who really should know better about their culture and heritage. 😔

By the way, for the Brits, there is a programme called Secrets of the Royal Flights on channel 5 @ 9.15 Friday. Unsure if it’s a sort of damage limitation piece, or or just a coincidental topical programme!
Ava C said…
Yes I'm thinking of cancelling my Telegraph subscription too as the Meghan coverage feels like censorship. That says something because up to now I've been able to accept all the pro-Brexit coverage even though I'm a remainer, because at least the Telegraph gives you space to say what you think, and it's important to keep reading different points of view. That mendacious fashion coverage for Meghan with no comments allowed is like slamming the door in our faces.
Ava C said…
Going by comments in major UK newspapers the racist card isn't working. People see right through it and don't hesitate to say so. That's my experience when listening to people discuss Meghan in daily life as well. I think the BRF needed to allow this to build but are now in danger of letting it go on too long as people's anger is spilling over and affecting the whole way the BRF is viewed now, especially given Prince Andrew. The Queen seems to be drifting on all fronts.
Rainy Day said…
Thank you, Mrs Trestle. I’m glad you are feeling better, and I too look forward to more on-scene reports.
@Ava. That was my take on the clip too.
Rainy Day said…
To me, the red flag about Archie is that Media Meg didn’t publish a new photo instead of using a months-old photo of fake provenance (metadata date). I think she/PR realized that anything less than a new full-face shot would be ridiculed, so they didn’t even bother with the artsy hand/foot/back of head shot.
marjorie said…
@HappyDays: Looks like her twitter acct was changed to "THIS"LittlePetal. If this is indeed MeAgain, she has shown her left-leaning commie political colors... RT'ing members of the InsaneSquad, anti-law enforcement and outright lies re immigration! It's truly unbelievable that the RF permits her free reign to do and say as she pleases.

This is LittlePetal's tweet three days ago... certainly sounds like MeAgain!

ThisLittlePetal
@ThisLittlePetal
All threats of abuse including death threats and threats of harm, either tweets, direct message or indirect threats of violence are forwarded to the authorities to deal with.
@Mrs Trestle, I was aware it hadn’t been lived in for many decades, so probably uninhabitable? 🤗

Well I’ll look forward to your update on the property. 🤗
Liver Bird said…
What I simply do not understand is why the CB crowd - and other Meghanistas - love and adore her so much. I get that they may think she is unfairly criticised, but even so, what exactly has she done to earn so much adoration and investment from people who didn't know who she was before she married a dim prince?
Ava C said…
What I don't understand is that surely BRF accounts are audited, even if they are not made public in detail. If funding was given for building work, surely it would need to match invoices received, as for any other organisation? I can accept a bit of minor fudging is possible, but surely not on the scale of millions? Someone somewhere would have to sign such irregularities off. At this rate, Frogmore Cottage is going to be the 21st-century's Affair of the Diamond Necklace, with Meghan in the leading role as Marie Antoinette.

However I do think it more than likely H&M are not based at Frogmore. The whole thing has seemed like an elaborate joke from the start anyway, with the swamp and the frogs and the graves and the planes. The same little touch that gave her the Wallis Simpson car to take her to the altar.
SwampWoman said…
I said at the time of the giant PR build up about the "curated" collection that it will have to be very spectacular to match the press. I thought it was underwhelming at best.
KayeC said…
@Nutty, when I saw the pictures of her with both hands in her face pulling it back, I instantly thought of Cher in the 70s! Make no mistake, Cher was flawless in hair, skin, and wearing Bob Mackie, not comparing her to MM, just how she flipped her hair. Maybe she's up late watching infomercials selling Sony & Cher DVDs.
Julia said…
The event in question is the 2012 Olympics watching Zara take the silver medal. There are a number of photos out there - below is a link to Just Jared which has a gallery of shots. There was obviously no tension amongst the three (those were the days!) Other photos show Harry happily chatting with Kate. And no rudeness either.

http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/2694779/duchess-kate-prince-william-watch-zara-win-silver-medal-15/
Nutty Flavor said…
Now RuPaul has come out in support of Meghan.

From the DM:

“Praising the American-born duchess, RuPaul added: ‘Meghan’s arrival in the Royal Family marks a whole new era. I like the way she challenges the norm.’ “

Wonder if Ru will be the next victim of the Markle curse.
Julia said…
Here's the Daily Mail - also showing more photos.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2181493/Duchess-Cambridge-Princes-William-Harry-watch-Zara-Phillips-Team-GB-silver-team-eventing-jumping-final.html
Liver Bird said…
Like - I suspect - most people this side of the Atlantic, I have never heard of this person, or of many of the other 'celebrities' who suddenly declare themselves 'friends' with Meg.

Would be interesting to know what PR firm represents him......
Girl with a Hat said…
I always wondered about the renovations at Frogmore because it was a listed building and there didn't seem to be enough time for all of the renovations to be approved.
jathomps said…
Me-gain's capsule collection or something very similar could have been purchased at Old Navy or some other equivalent retailer (or even a US uniform company for that matter). And, the recipient would not have had to go through all the red tape that Me-gain's charity required. It's clear this was all bout her and her friend Nonoo and nothing else.

Re Frogmore- Maybe that was the Queen thumbing her nose at those two idiots way back at the beginning of the marriage. What young couple who are presumed to have children are going to want to live on a swamp with a graveyard and mosquitoes? Maybe the Queen was pissed that they ran off and married in Africa so she banished them to Frogmore. They can't admit they don't live there so they are royal couch surfing.
Dredging this story up reeks of MM. And to add insult to injury, she has it posted so close to Diana’s death-anniversary. It’s truly appalling and low. How can Harry stomach to look at his wife? Surely he knows that she is behind this story, right?!
Nutty Flavor said…
He does a reality show competition that requires guest judges. Having Meg as a judge would be great publicity for his new UK show.
Girl with a Hat said…
they were supposed to move to a bigger apartment at KP but were banished to Frogmore because no one wanted them at KP. They had done the renovations to have them move to the bigger place, and the Duke of Gloucester, I think it was, was ready to move out.
Girl with a Hat said…
we need to contact the grammar police after reading that sentence
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't know where I read it but there are bags full of her Vogue issue available for 1$ in NYC bookstores.
fairylights said…
Thank you Mrs Trestle, I look forward to hearing what you have to say! One good thing about them adding a very large barbecue area (if any of this can said to be 'good') is that the construction will likely be very visible as it's outside the house. Easy to tell if it's actually happening or not!
@Liver, they buy into the humanitarian A-List actress, with the 5 million earnings, with the awful family blah, blah, blah story that they love to spin and spin themselves.
CookieShark said…
I also thought this amounted to little more than a "Favorite Things" page in an Oprah magazine. It was 5 pieces, correct? Designed by other people? Her contribution is that she says they are in the collection? I'm also not sure how you get ten outfits out of them. The promotion for this featured MM very heavily and not the people who actually designed the merchandise, which is strange.
Ava C said…
Maybe it's only a matter of time before a capable, ambitious young journalist uncovers the truth about Frogmore. Like Watergate, although obviously Frogmore's not in the same league. I guess newspapers are still treading carefully after the Leveson Inquiry, but eventually the gap between what the newspapers report and what local Windsor people say will become too much to hide. As with Archie. Can't hide forever.

Speaking of which, while looking up officially released photos of Kate's children, I came across the photo from 2016 of the Queen with her two youngest grandchildren (Edward and Sophie's) and all her great-grandchildren, for her 90th birthday. The one with Charlotte on the Queen's lap. If the Queen remains in good health I would expect another one to be taken for her 95th birthday. Surely Archie would have to be included ...

Great Post again Nutty, many thanks too "Mrs Trestle" you can be our "on the spot reporter" from FrogCott lol. Loved the descriptions of exploring the gardens, keeking through the windows etc. Please, please ask you friend to take photos of FrogCott & ask the locals if they've seen MM, Harry or anyone else driving in or out. I'm in Scotland so 500 miles or so from London.

Seems to be a wall of silence where this house is concerned. The newspapers photographed Diana & loads of other Royals going in & out of Kensington/Buckingham Palaces. William & Kate are pictured in vehicles out of KP going to official engagements all the time. All very strange. More comments yesterday on Daily Mail saying FrogCott is empty even one person asking why people are posting this? & have they heard something? I did read MM was living in a townhouse in Mayfair, London but surely she'd be photographed coming in/out? Maybe she's living in that Cotswold's farmhouse they rented on a 2 year lease but had to give up the lease early due to the media printing a photo of it - I never fell for that cancellation explanation, maybe MM is there alone.

Another blog said she was merching the rent, basically they were getting it at reduced/cost, if you like, basis & MM was asking Prince Charles' office (or whoever pays their accounts) for the full monthly rental value - prob a cool £3,000 or even more in her account. Who knows though but I literally cannot wait till this is blown up all over the media & we can find out exactly what's been going on.

Love this blog - everytime I read it it feels like we're all sitting round a big kitchen table with some wine & having this great discussion :-)
Girl with a Hat said…
Scottishwildcat, I agree.
Nelo said…
Beyonce's homecoming was nominated for six Emmys. She didn't nab a single one. Lion
King album flopped. She's airing the making of the album on ABC tomorrow. Let's see how the ratings will be. Who knows how well Meghan's Vogue UK sold? And who knows if Gayle's documentary on H and M had high ratings. I hope the Markle curse is just a conspiracy theory.
CookieShark said…
Something I thought of, and I have seen elsewhere online, is how practical are some of the Smart Works pieces really for women in need? I have a pretty good job but can't afford to dry clean my work clothes every week. Yet aren't the jacket and trousers from the Capsule Collection dry clean only? Please, anyone, correct me if I am wrong.
punkinseed said…
Great points you guys. The CB Flying Monkeys tend to project their own personal experiences onto Meg's., eg. "... my dad, sister, half sister was just as rotten, bad, or worse than Markle's" therefore, by association it's fine and dandy to condemn her dad.
Plus, there's a tendency for the Flying Monkeys to create unified swarms like those who supported the likes of wife and baby killer Scott Lee Peterson. Why? Why why after mountains of evidence proved he was guilty? Because, as many of his supporters raged, "It's because he's so good looking. Nobody with such good looks could do such a thing..." I know, makes ZERO sense, but consider the source who organizes and gathers such a mob of idiots.
They think Sussex attract the younger set like the teens? Really? I double dog doubt it. My grandkids are both teens and know nothing of the royals, let alone Mugsy and Henry. Their passions are binge watching fave shows on Netflix, usually Marvel movies or teen sit coms, paranormal, Ariana Grande and Young Life meetings after school.
I think all of the numbers of Sussux followers are grossly exaggerated, and the rest are fake sock puppets and bots.
SarcasticBimbo said…
I follow @ThisLittlePetal on Twitter and today she misspelled the word, LIAR. I corrected her. She actually THANKED me. LOL
Trooper said…
I would like to comment on her hair per some of the earlier comments. I think some curls would be nice. There is nothing wrong with curls. In years past, women wore curls and it looked really nice. She should embrace some curls and let women of color know that they do not have to torture their hair to get it to be straight.
punkinseed said…
Thank you very much Mrs. Trestle. Appreciate your input and observations. With all of those chimneys at Frog Cott. I was wondering if anyone can see over the next few days as weather turns colder, if there's any exhaust or smoke coming out of any of them. It may not mean anyone resides there; just that the heating system has been turned on or not.
What I really wonder is where oh where do the Sussex actually live right now? You'd think that someone, somewhere would be able to spot them, even an odd off chance. I guess it's possible that there's a blackout by the Paps to stand down and not reveal where they are really living? Why hide it?
Ilona said…
@ Ava C "If the Queen remains in good health I would expect another one to be taken for her 95th birthday. Surely Archie would have to be included ..."
Ha!! Well said, Ava!!
SwampWoman said…
Frogmore sounds like a dank place that would be perfect for somebody that slithered in from the slimier portion of Hollywood. I think stories like that garden renovation sans permit that pop up in the news ever so often is just to reinforce the illusion that they are living there. If it weren't for the people commenting here that know of the place, I would believe it.

CookieShark, one of my pet peeves (I have several pet peeves, my husband can probably name them) is that so many people seem to think that talking about a subject on social media makes them an expert. It doesn't. Doing it does. The saddest thing for me is that the people doing the lecturing to others about a subject often know very little about it because they haven't bothered to take the time to learn, probably because they know everything already. It does annoy those of us that ARE experts in the subject matter, however.

@pumpkinseed, I think the fans are young myself...I find it kind of incredulous that an adult would actually write some of the utter codswallop that I’ve read over the last 3 years. Though at the same time, their target audience is young, perhaps the Sussex’s see that age group as easy fooled/manipulated
and gullible, after all you can’t put an old head on young shoulders as they say.
gabes_human said…
Marjorie, I’m afraid I have to claim responsibility for the warning against death threats. I reminded MeGain that while Diana was loved and admired in life, she didn’t reach Saint Diana status until after her death so like artists and authors, if she hope to be Diana 2.0 she wouldn’t do it while living. It looks like in her hobby-fueled paranoia she takes such comments as threatening. If Rembrandt were still among the living would his paintings be as valuable? No. It’s only after there is no possibility of more works being available do their values skyrocket. Think of what will happen when the last bitcoin has been mined. or As in the case of people, we don’t appreciate their contributions until they are no longer making them. I have to laugh at her reaction to my telling her that there are no living saints as a death threat.
Mary Anne said…
I want to know why there is so much speculation about Sparkles age. Since she is born in California, her birth certificate is public and would be easy to get. It would be hard for her to lie. In some states birth certificates are private, but not California.
gabes_human said…
All the royal properties need periodic maintenance just as our homes do. Back when all the brouhaha started over the cost of renovating frog cott, there was an itemised list of what was needed. It was extensive-floor joists, trusses, beams, plumbing and electrical that hadn’t been touched since the 1950’s... . These repairs would have to be done whether anyone was going to be living there or not just to keep it from decaying into ruins.the building is grade II listed so it holds historical value and no one-well most of us- wouldn’t want it to crumble. Yeah they did run in and on about organic paint for the nursery and triple paned soundproof windows but other than the complaints of a woman who ran on and on in the comments of DE about a floating floor for a yoga studio that supposedly covered an impressive parquet floor, most of it was basic maintenance of a building that had been neglected. What the goofy woman doesnt understand is that a floating floor isn’t some exotic spring-loaded floor; it’s an inexpensive way of covering an existing floor without adhesive or nails. It’s a tongue and groove (laminate usually) that just snaps into place-cheap as chips. The copper tub was a fantasy obviously although I have to admit to purchasing one from a fabricator just outside Paris and shipping it back to the US. Along with a hand painted bidet. It wasn’t exactly cheap but I love copper and was in France shopping for goodies to use for my own home reno and a restaurant I was installing. I digress. My point was that the repairs to frog cott were necessary if future generations want to enjoy the historical buildings.
Abby7881 said…
Granted, I never heard of Markle until she got involved with Harry, but has she dated black men in the past? I don't pay much attention to her, but it seems like the only black 'friend' she has is Serena Williams.
Mary Anne said…
Has anyone seen Artificial's birth certificate? I thought those were public in the UK? It's weird that there has been no official birth certificate for the kid after all this time.
KnitWit said…
Mrs. Trestle, glad you are feeling better. If you have adventures at Frogmore with your friend, hope you take lots of pictures.

Remember the tacky warning to not make eye contact or talk to the Sussexes or Artificial Archie .... kidding.
gabes_human said…
I live for the day that said ambitious young journalist strikes a deal with a buddy in the US or France to split the $ and the whole story comes out. Wouldn’t having a foreign reporters name on the byline of a foreign publication skirt the issue of any supposed super injunction?
KnitWit said…
Wondering about a birth certificate and christening papers. I read that both are public documents in England.
KnitWit said…
Oh my, wish RuPaul would help Meg's with her hair and wardrobe. That would be fun to watch! Maybe MM could be a guest on UK Drag Race.
gabes_human said…
I was born in Cali too and had to get a new copy of my birth certificate when I stupidly let my passport expire. Luckily my parents moved the fam back to Texas when I was two. They do ask who is ordering the certificate and for what purpose ie self, genealogical purposes... . As an aside, Cali is the only place I have ever heard of that asks WHAT GENDER YOU WERE BORN ! I had thought of one of us trying to get a copy but not sure we could answer the identifying questions- mothers maiden name, fathers occupation... . Not sure I want to waste the $20. Either.
Mary Anne said…
@gabes_human
I have gotten plenty of California birth certificates pre and post the the new laws that put that red non legal comment down them and have never been asked about gender. California is actually one of the easiest places to get birth certificates. In New York state they are hard to obtain. I was a professional astrologer for years, so I was always ordering people's birth certificates to do charts. I learned a lot with celebrity birth certificates.
KnitWit said…
Changing her hair would get her some press. A skilled English stylist should be able to come up with a more attractive look. Is Di's hairdresser still around?

Kate is known for her glossy, long, straight hair (some people say she has extensions. I am not good at spotting wigs or extensions).

Meg's hair looks ratty, dry and unkept by comparison.

Parting her hair in the middle and pulling it back makes her face look puffy.

She can say that she needed a change being a busy new mother, bla bla.

She seemed to have naturally curly hair in childhood. Changing to an attractive natural style could help other black and biracial women embrace their natural beauty.
marjorie said…
@gabes: As if the out-of-bounds with self-importance MeGain actually needs any encouragement in that department!! HAHAHA!!
Ava C said…
See this utterly damning and oh-so-effective Harry Markle post, out now:

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2019/09/15/why-was-mms-smart-works-capsule-launch-overhyped/

I know little about the clothing industry but this seems an excellent deconstruction of the whole Smart Works venture with Meghan, that puts major publications to shame. This is what they should be doing.
marjorie said…
@Nutty: Used to be a big fan of RuPaul... until he became hate-filled and started using his show to bash anyone he doesn't like. Apparently, RuPaul isn't the "love everyone" and "equality for all" person after all.
Royal Fan said…
I wish she would embrace her natural texture too.
Royal Fan said…
Someone posted on CDAN (enty’s blog) that the new Archie pic is a photo shopped pic of Louis and Kate?!?!
SwampWoman said…
I agree re the curls! I think curly hair is delightful. She should let her curls fly and ditch the wigs. It seems that would be ever so much easier.
NeutralObserver said…
Re: Megs' wigs. Never mind empty Frog Cott., to me the biggest question is why does Megs look so awful these days? Forgive me if you've already done a post on this Nutty, but she doesn't even look clean these days! She's pudgy, her clothes look unpressed, her hair looks matted & unwashed, what's up? I've seen pre-marriage photos of her in which she looked quite glamorous. In the days leading up to, & just after her marriage, during the Ireland trip for example, she looked reasonably well groomed & appropriately dressed. This is a woman whose career has seemed mostly based on her appearance & who has tried to present herself as a fashion & beauty savant. Is it a sign Prince Charles or the BRF has pulled the plug on the dosh? In her appearance at her 'capsule launch' she looked like the slutty mom at school pick-up time. She was a train wreck at the baseball game, the Lion King, & the impromptu appearance at her clothing charity as well. I think it's significant. She doesn't seem to have any of the stylists, hairdressers, seamstresses, etc. that you would expect a royal to have. It's like the name Archie, I don't care what the succession charts in the Daily Mail or even on the Royal website say, no way anyone named Archie is ever gonna be king! The fact that the queen let them call the rumored baby that says that something is fishy.
HappyDays said…
Abby7881: I haven't seen any evidence she’s had a black boyfriend in the past.

If she did, she’d likely make sure photos and at least basic details of the relationship were long ago made public knowledge so she could use to the guy as a virtue signal. All of her known boyfriends and husbands have been white.
HappyDays said…
Mrs. Trestle, I hope you are feeling better soon.
Fifi LaRue said…
Markle will never embrace her natural hair because she doesn't want to be mistaken for being black. And she doesn't want to attract black people to herself, unless they are fake friends who are extremely wealthy. But only women. No black men for her.
Amanda said…
CookieShark - I noticed the actions at the press conference also! the way Sparkles was stroking Fauxchie just seemed odd to me and I couldn't figure out why.

I actually think Sparkles and Haz don't live together and haven't for quite some time, there is certainly no one at Frogmore and it astonishes me they think people are so stupid they wouldn't notice the lack of activity.



punkinseed said…
NeutralObserver, I know right? She has access to stylists like most of us could only dream of. Why oh why does she choose to look so sloppy all of the time? She's like a tweaker, who couldn't care less about her appearance. It's like a big f you to the public. Her nasty hair is what my sister and I call "tavern hair" wigs or not. Even Diana, when she had no one to do her hair or makeup would do it all herself with hot rollers, etc., and always looked picture perfect. I read that in a book about Diana, but can't recall which one.
And yes. The name Archie is very suspect. It's like the name you'd give as an inside joke, not a real baby.
I don't think anything much is real with the Sussuxes. Their Frogbottom cottage is fake, trips, fake, baby, fake, banana bread, faked. Diana's butterfly earrings, faked. It's like they are playing an ongoing, perpetual crazy shell game and made it into an industry. And what's driving this crazy clown car? Greed.
punkinseed said…
Louise500, you're probably right in that the younger set is their target audience because they are far more malleable. I just don't believe the younger ones are as many as claimed.
They would target youth like Goebbels propaganda aimed at the Hitler Youth. Easier to control and convince and get them to call everything racist. Extreme example but still, like you say old head on young shoulders can't be done.
punkinseed said…
“an opportunity for plying criminal talents,” suggesting not so much the pursuit of illicit profit as general delight in the act of deceit." Grift.
Defines Sussux doesn't it? At this point it's rather obvious that nothing they do or say is the truth and they delight in the act of deceit, no matter who it hurts, robs, offends.
Aquagirl said…
I consider the capsule collection an unmitigated disaster! MM managed to insult the charity, the people and companies who donate, and the clients. And now it’s come out that none of the clothes were new. The dress was on sale in M&S in Fall ‘18, the jacket & pants have been available since at least Spring. Idk if Mischa’s shirt was a new design or not, but all of her shirts are quite similar. The tote bag sold out because only 2 of them were available on line. All of these companies had worked with SmartWorks before, (not sure about Mischa), so MM did not create anything new. Sounds as if she was just helping her ‘partners’ move excess inventory and of course, creating more PR for herself. To think that they did a whole photo shoot (I wonder who paid for that?) a launch event...for what? A line of rejected clothing that is only going to benefit SmartWorks for 2 weeks? Who allows this? MM shouldn’t be the Patron of any charity. She has absolutely no clue &
everything she touches turns to shit.
NeutralObserver said…
I forgot her to mention her weird appearance at Wimbledon & the polo match. She cleaned up for her Wimbledon date with Kate & Pippa, but she's looked like a hot mess at any other sightings. Some of the blogs are suggesting medication, booze or other drugs, but if that's the case, how can she edit Vogue, design a clothing line, post to Instagram, consult with her pr, make numerous trips & 'take care of a baby?'
I have to say that the only reason that I know any of these things is because I've been waiting to find out what the deal is with her 'pregnancy' & her 'baby.' I was only vaguely aware of what goes on with the BRF, but I'm a news addict & do a daily scan of various news websites, including the Telegraph. I saw a photo of her in a beautiful turquoise gown that she wore while in Fiji & the caption mentioned that she was preggers. I knew Harry had gotten married recently, & I thought, 'wow that was fast, they must have jumped the gun a bit, but who am I to judge? Maybe this is what the RF thinks 'modernizing' is. ' Then I saw subsequent photos in the Telegraph, which likes to follow royal fashions, in which her baby bump seemed to vary wildly in size, & not in any sequence that made sense. I even googled 'baby bump changes sizes day to day,' & got several articles in which 'experts' explained why Megs' bump seemed to grow & deflate, so I knew I wasn't imagining things. I should explain that what put the wind up with me is that I've had two children who had the same gestational arcs that Megs claimed her 'baby' had. One was born in early April, the other in early May. One was even born in London with a hand written city of Westminster birth certificate, & believe me, my baby bump, the birth certificate, my post baby body or behavior were nothing like Megs'. Baby bumps gradually get larger, & mostly stay in the same place on your body, at least until the due date approaches, when the babies seem to be trying to get ready for their exit. Oh, and a breastfeeding mom usually quickly loses the baby weight because it takes so much energy to breastfeed. The fact that Megs & Harry were so vague about the due date was another red flag. Your ob-gyn whips out his or her little chart & tells you the exact due date on your first visit, based on when your last period was. Babies aren't born on their exact due dates, but you always have a good idea within a week or so. I just want to know, is there a baby? If there is, who gave birth to it, & whose DNA does it have? If there is a real baby, based on my experience, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that says Megs didn't carry it. I think faking a pregnancy is a pretty cynical thing for a public figure to pull off, although I know a lot of Hollywood types apparently do it. For someone in the BRF to do it is profoundly shocking to me, especially with all of the historical emphasis on legitimacy & so forth. So I want to know what's up with this s*** show!
Aquagirl said…
I don’t think MM has ever dated anyone who wasn’t Caucasian. And I don’t consider MM half black. She’s half orange (her face) and half white (the rest of her body). Did anyone notice that one if the mannequins had an orange hand 🤣? But seriously, she has always referred to herself as Caucasian on her acting resume, so why doesn’t someone call her out on her shit? The BRF needs to make a move. This is getting more & more ridiculous every day.
Aquagirl said…
Am I the only one who thinks that Autumn is an odd time of year to install a barbecue?
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HappyDays said…
Doubtful Meghan would admit it’s her in either account. She’s not supposed to have personal accounts that are public.
HappyDays said…
TTucker, I just finished reading the NYT article. In a lot of ways, it describes Meghan, and the royal family. Especially the part a out the minority student who stole the address book of a studdnt from a wealthy family who grifted famikies listed in the book using their guilt. Sounds like the grift Meghan used on Harry and Charles, and to some extent, HM, whom I think now knows true nature and agenda.
Aquagirl said…
The birthday photo is heavily photoshopped. It seems to be MM’s head on Kate’s body (it’s the dress that Kate wore at Louis’ Christening.) There’s a distinct line around her neck as if her head got plopped on. But it looks as if she’s holding Prince George. Harry is squatting, a position that is common for him when he’s meeting children and disabled and elderly people. And he’s wearing his trusty grey suit. That photo of him could’ve been pulled from anywhere. Then the whole photo is blurred. For anyone who was doubting that they do not have custody of a baby, this says it all. No other photo with daddy and Archie has been taken since then?
punkinseed said…
rabbit, ha haa! Imagine Mugs befriending Rachel Dolezal! Now that would be some interesting conversations on how to embrace racial identification wouldn't it?
HappyDays said…
KnitWit: Using the old photo struck me too, but knowing that as a person with likely narcissistic personality disorder Meghan is a control freak and that any photo she has control of is planned to the smallest detail to make HER look good if she is in it or to enhance her image if it is something like that close-up of Archie’s feet on Mother’s Day with some of Diana’s favorite flowers in the background. She might not have been able to schedule a photo shoot, or if there is no Archie in their possession, get a baby for the Happy Birthday Harry photo shoot.
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Aquagirl said…
@Mischi: The repairs that were done on the KP apt. were structural repairs; windows, roof, etc., not interior design. I did read an interview in which the Duke of Gloucester said that they were moving because their children were grown, etc., and then later they said they decided to stay. I’m sure HM told them to stay, because nobody wanted the Sussexes there. I’d assume that Will and Kate were behind this. Who wants a narcissistic sociopath who is jealous of you and your family living next door?
Aquagirl said…
Let’s get Ronan Farrow on the case!
Aquagirl said…
@Ava: if Markle is still
around by the Queen’s 95th, I don’t think I can take it!
Aquagirl said…
I don’t. Anyone who associates with Markle deserves what they get!
HappyDays said…
gabes_human, Most peopke don’t begrudge when odopke splurge on things who ate private citizens whose funding for these purchases comes from non-public sources. But I seriously doubt the alleged privately funded items at Frogmore are if you trace it back far enough, is private money made by ptivate enterprise or labor. For example, money from the Duchy of Cornwall pays allowances for William, Harry, Kate, and Meghan. It also pays for things like their clothes.

The Duchy is CONTROLLED by the current Prince of Wales, but it is not his personal property. It is, in the end, owned by the United Kingdom, which at the end of the trail, is the public.

Yes, the RF does have some personal wealth, but if it is wealth acquired by investing their allowances or other monies from the government, it still has roots in the benevolence of the citizenry.
Aquagirl said…
Dry clean only.

Shirt can be hand washed (who the heck wants to do that?)
Rainy Day said…
This is the best article I’ve read yet in terms of explaining the dupes and deceptions involved in the launch.
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Aquagirl said…
I don’t think she could do that at this point even if she wanted to. (Which, I agree, she wouldn’t want to.) Her hair is quite damaged from Keratin treatments, extensions, etc. She’s probably beginning to lose it, because I don’t think I’ve ever seen her without extensions, a wig or some type of hair piece.
Aquagirl said…
I think it was wiped on the internet.
Aquagirl said…
Yes, excellent post. She really thinks things through and she’s absolutely correct.
Aquagirl said…
I did. I explained it above. It’s MM’s head on Kate’s body (wearing the dress from Louis’ Christening) but I actually think she’s holding George. Everything is photoshopped and then blurred.
Aquagirl said…
I agree. They don’t live together. Don’t know if they ever did. She initially lived at SoHo. It is astonishing that they think that people are so stupid, not to mention that she taxpayers are up
in arms about the cost. If this money wasn’t spent, the taxpayers would be relieved to know that.
Aquagirl said…
It’s also been reported that they stay in separate rooms when they travel.
KnitWit said…
I agree that she was more chic before the marriage. Maybe the shows stylists or Hollywood connections helped her.


SwishyFishy said…
I'm glad you mentioned that Aquagirl. I've noticed the same thing , but kept my mouth shut for fear of being branded with "unconscious bias". She's overusing bronzer on her face and neck like crazy, but neglects the rest of her body. I think she's trying to make herself darker to appeal to POC. When she first got with Harry, I swear she was only a few shades off me and I'm pretty pale. Suddenly she looks so much darker, especially at royal family events where she is photographed looking decidedly darker than the rest of the royals. I feel this is definitely for effect. She always veered towards her Caucasian side of the family until she started dating Harry, The only male of color she has ever been recorded dating is a biracial guy she met at summer camp, the one who went public to say he was her first kiss. I think she was 14, but I could be wrong. Other than that, she's only dated white men.
SwishyFishy said…
Regarding Meghan being "This Little Petal", I don't do twitter, but seeing as Doria Ragland's nickname for Meghan is "Flower" it would make sense that this is her. How sad that I know this? I disgust myself sometimes.
SwishyFishy said…
I love Drag Race, but i have heard the RuPaul behind the scenes is not the one you see in front of the cameras. He's fiercely businesslike and cold, so I'm sure he can relate to Meghan's desire for money and merching. He's even said in interviews that the private RuPaul is very different from the performer RuPaul.
SwampWoman said…
Neutral Observer, I got addicted to following the sh*tshow when husband read the news of Prince Harry's marriage to me, he looked at the pictures, read about the bride, and asked me "WHAT was he thinking?" Then, mildly curious, I started reading about the bride, saw a story at Harry Markle, then CDAN, which segued to Nutty Flavor, then Lipstick Alley, and now here I am (yawn), reading when I need to be up in 5 hours.
Anonymous said…
@JenS - your theory re "the baby" mirrors mine. The "new" photo released today is absurd in its photoshopping -- check out Markle's nose, it's not the same nose (I swear she pasted Diana's onto her face) and there is a light ring all around her neck. Harry's sideburns look like mutton chops and Darren's has the eyes of the spawn of the Children of the Corn. All in all, it's just bizarre, and I think probably the only photos Markle has of "the baby" so she must photoshop away.

The birthday wishes for PH from HMTQ, Chas, the Cambridges do not include any photos with Princess Pole Climber, either. That speaks volumes IMO.
SwishyFishy said…
The cost of the Cambridge renovations of KP is comparable to Frogmore cottage HOWEVER, Apartment 1A has 22 rooms with some of those set aside for diplomatic purposes (e.g. the Obama visit), while Frogmore was only 10 rooms or less. It's one thing for the future King of England to spend $4 million to improve his digs in a famous, historical building in the heart of London and quite another for the irrelevant 6th in line to the throne to spend that much on an unimportant (though listed) building in the middle of a swamp.
SwishyFishy said…
I love that picture. Mia Tindall with the Queen's handbag is priceless. Frankly, I'd be more interested in seeing Prince Louis in a future photo than Archie. That kid is friggin' adorable.
KnitWit said…
Sharing a link to a funny tweet
https://twitter.com/JoCoCo20/status/1173265475163344898?s=19
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SwishyFishy said…
I agree. The hair is bad. Her hair always looks dry, dirty and like it's full of old leftover product. I'd love to see her with natural texture. I don't think she is seeing a hairdresser with knowledge of how to best style her hair type. I'm obsessed with this youtube channel "Deeper Than Hair" and it's amazing what that woman can do with her African American clients and the level of care she gives towards the health of their hair. There's a lot of options out there, but Meghan doesn't seem to be exploring them. She just goes back to the same ratty, windblown nest that does her no favors. Both she and Harry always look a mess.
SwishyFishy said…
Years ago, when I lived in Cali, I worked in a library and we had a database where you could look up anyone's birth certificate. I used to look up celebrities born in CA. Despite all the rumors, I think she must be that age because of this database that is so easy for anyone to access. Like everything else about her, nothing is clear. I think it's odd that her classmates are older and that her father once fumbled in an interview and said she was born in 1977. Who knows. Everything about this woman is a lie in some way, shape or form.
Ava C said…
Of course straightened hair is also part of the late '90s aesthetic she is so attached to. I remember realising on my London rail commute at that time that virtually all the women in the carriage had the same hairstyle. These days the thing is to embrace your natural style and be gentle to your hair.
Trudy2 said…
@Mrs Trestle, with regard to your media contacts being asked to keep a lid on the Markle debacle, is this a blanket ban on anything damaging or specific areas of interest, i.e. Archificial or Toad Hall, for example?
It sounds like I'm not alone in saying that I'm very intrigued and excited by your input. I have a dreadful lack of patience so it's very encouraging to hear that there are definitely undercurrents of activity going on behind the scenes.
Mrs Trestle said…
Hi Nutty and all posters. Report back on photos on this little petal twitter account.

First can I thank you all for your kind comments. This really is the nicest blog (is blog the right word?) I have found and I enjoy reading all comments and insights.

I looked at three photos: 1. The one at the top of the page, the banner, I would call it. 2. The one with the ducks. 3. The sunset.

Photo 1. Taken from a high position. Certainly not taken from her bedroom window. Frog Cott isn't that high. In the bottom right of the pic is water. I think this is the River Thames which flows through several counties including Berkshire and Surrey on its way to London. If you look you can see people on the far bank on the tow path. Anyone can walk or cycle along the Thames.
I think this photo was taken somewhere in Runnymede, not far from Frog Cott, but too far to walk. Runnymede was where the Magna Carta was signed, but there is also a JFK Memorial which is high up on a hill. This may have been taken from there. This area is outside (just) Windsor Great Park.

2. The ducks. This is not a pond. Again, it's the River Thames. If you look to the left you can see the towpath I mentioned above. I think this is in Runnymede too. This is all common land where anyone can walk, cycle, have picnics, bbqs etc. Plenty of car parks and on nice days, even in winter, people come from miles.

3. The sunset. Well, this is a generic photo and could be taken anywhere in that area.

I read quite a few of her tweets. She really is deceitful. There is a photo (presumably) of her holding a bottle with the name 'Sipsmith' on it and she tweets about having non alcoholic cocktails. But Sipsmith is a gin and she holds the bottle in such a way that the word gin is hidden. This twitter account is definitely her, it reads like her turgid, banal Tig. And any woman who has to keep banging on about her amazing, incredible life makes me think that it's not. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

Hope this is useful.
Ava C said…
There's an interesting documentary on YouTube, made while Diana was still alive, about Fergie and where it all went wrong. Worth watching for little insights into the Queen's apparent inaction over H&M.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BMCWK2_LlXk

I've transcribed a section with Brian Hoey, an experienced writer and broadcaster. (As to credentials, his publisher's website notes he secured the first TV interview ever with Princess Anne.) What he says isn't new to anyone, but it reinforces the strength of the Queen's resistance to engage with family issues:

"The queen will go to almost any lengths to avoid confrontation. She simply doesn't like confrontation with family business at all. She leaves most of that sort of thing to Prince Philip anyway, who doesn't avoid it. He doesn't mind confrontation at all, but the Queen will avoid it. She is very likely, if somebody went up to her and said something like 'Don't you think it's time you had a word with Diana or with Sarah about the state of their marriage[s]?' she would be just as likely to say 'I think it's time the corgis had a walk in the garden' and she would walk away and leave it, and believe it would have disappeared by the time she came back. She simply would not involve herself in any of the private squabbles or relationships of her family at all."

Her reliance on Prince Philip in this area has long been recognised (with unfortunate results at times), but he has disappeared into deepest Norfolk and we have perhaps overlooked the effects of his absence. The lack of response to all the challenges Meghan is throwing down may just reflect a vacuum in the heart of the family. And the PM has a lot to deal with at the moment(!) Usually we might expect a little steer there, à la Tony Blair in '97.




Ava C said…
Meant to say thanks to Mrs Trestle for an intriguing post. Also, I noticed the Sipsmith on the bottle too. It's like a game - how many mistakes can you spot today?
Birth certificates are available to the public in the UK, unsure about Christening docs though. Archie’s birth certificate was released to the public. He was born at The Portland hospital.
Nelo said…
Ava C, thanks for your post. Indeed, the queen is known to always hide her head in the sand when faced with issues except when that issue is defending Andrew. People believe that the RF is giving Meghan enough rope to hang her self. I don't think so. Old habits die hard; so I think what we are seeing is the queen hiding her head in the sand as usual instead of confronting Meghan and Harry's issue headlong. If she passes away, it will even be worse because Charles is not known to discipline his sons.
Marie said…
I think it's because people are grasping at straws to find more reasons why they dislike her, just like with the Fauxarchie conspiracy and her hair and her post-baby weight. It's a bit like the Obama birth certificate conspiracy. Buckingham Palace have stated and date of birth. One can't discredit every official source just because the narrative about Meghan's personality is more convenient when it weren't true.

Whether they live at Frogmore is pretty interesting though. I always wondered if there was a secret, very large underground tunnel installed by order of Queen Victoria from Windsor Castle to Frogmore Cottage so that visits with her astrologer/philosopher confidant could be kept secret. I can also imagine that they have a second residence because they believe they're entitled to such a lifestyle.
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Mrs Trestle said…
I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Ava C. There is a vacuum at the heart of the RF since PP retired. You've described it perfectly.
Mrs Trestle said…
Trudy2, very often with the press it's not what they say, but what they don't say that is interesting. Sometimes they are prohibited from publishing stuff because there are injunctions in place although I haven't heard this in relation to MM & PH. Even with injunctions in place they can get around it in the paper version. Ie a few years ago it was in the papers about a famous footballer who was having an affair. The DM published this and said they couldn't name him, but right next to this was another article and photo of a footballer out with his wife. So everyone knew who had issued the injunction. It's a trick the press often use but you only get the message if you're reading the hard copy. No good on the website.

All I can say about this debacle is that I was speaking to a senior news reporter on one of the tabloids who is also an old friend. I asked him why they weren't printing all the gossip on the net. All he said was "We haven't enough proof....... yet. It's got to be cast iron".
NeutralObserver said…
@SwampWoman, I know, you can't stop watching it, because it's so unbelievable!
Also, it's only puzzling & irritating, not depressing, like so much news is these days.
abbyh said…
I would think no to the idea of a tunnel.

The area is a huge swamp and with that one would have concerns of water seeping in, flooding, the threat of collapse because not being able to keep the tunnel dry enough to seal it off initially before the water starts leaking in.

I do not know if they did have the capability back then to work around that (they might - I have been wrong before in life) but I do know that the water at ground level would be the first of many structural difficulties.

The next would be what kind of rock underlies the area. Granites, hard to deal with. Limestones - water dissolves (you know, most caves). I don't know the geology but that would be the next consideration. Geology in college.

If they really do believe they are entitled to more, more, more then a different place (given what has been said about this one) would likely be on the list.

(Elle, nice to see you).
NeutralObserver said…
@Aquagirl, I think you're right. The V-neckline & shoulder detail on the sleeves are like one of Kate's christening dresses, while Megs' 'christening' dress had a rounded neckline & flat sleeve/shoulders. I thought it was a hoot that Harry is kneeling before her/Kate. I assume the queen glances at newspapers now & then, I wonder what on earth she must be thinking? It's the brazenness of the hoax that is so jaw-dropping.
KayeC said…
Agree about the curls! I've said it before, she should be looking at Solange Knowles, who IMO is fashion forward, more than her sister. Or Diana Ross, Nicole Richie, Keri Russel, Zendaya....they all seem to have embraced their curls.
NeutralObserver said…
@ Mrs Trestle: Fascinating stuff. Facts, not fantasy. I think Megs is aiming all of her ammo at Americans & others who know little or nothing about the UK. I thought it was a hoot when they made the 'birth presentation' in a hall at Windsor that is open to the public & any tourist can walk through, but to her audience it would look so much more regal than Kate's hospital steps photos. Very crafty, but I don't know if she'll actually be able to achieve her goal of making a fortune as a 'global influencer.' The web & global economics seem to be changing fairly rapidly.
I’ve read too many books about our royals and watched every documentary about them when shown to say, it’s always been said that the Queen left bringing her family up and bringing them in-line to Philip, because she wanted him to have an important role. Only when Diana gave that BBC televised interview that she wrote to Charles and demanded they divorced. I’m not at all surprised with her nonchalant attitude towards the Sussex’s.
Girl with a Hat said…
maybe it is photoshopped but it's not from Louis' christening as Kate was wearing a very deep v neck dress with puffy sleeves. Maybe George's or Charlotte's?
Girl with a Hat said…
maybe the pic is photoshopped but the dress in the photo isn't anything like Kate's christening dresses. For George, she had a ruffled neckline and for Charlotte she had a coat dress on. For Louis, she had puffy sleeves at the armhole.
PaisleyGirl said…
Just want to thank you for your highly entertaining and intelligent blog, Nutty. I have been reading your blog from Europe for the past few weeks and am amazed by the mysteries and inconsistencies surrounding the Sussexes and their “child”. My apologies for any mistakes, as English is not my first language. The thing that I can’t get my head around is the timeline for baby Archie. When I compare what Archie looks like on the few occasions he has been photographed or mentioned, his appearance appears to change at random. When looking at the christening photos of July 6th, Archie has a tiny bit of hair, although it is difficult to see properly due to the arty black and white photos. Four days later, Meghan takes him to the polo match and Archie is nearly completely bald. Also, his head seems to be significantly larger than four days earlier. Ellen and Portia visit Archie somewhere around August 12th, if this visit actually took place. Ellen mentions that “He had more hair than I did at the time”. She also states that Archie weighs 17 pounds. I know my children were a lot smaller than 17 pounds at that age (and they were pretty big as I'm 6 ft tall), so I looked up the average weight of a three month old male infant, which Archie would theoretically be if he was born on May 6. The average would be 14.1 pounds. The average male baby does not reach the weight of 16.8 pounds until they are 5.5 months. And then on August 16, Vanity Fair states an insider mentioned little Archie has “tufts of reddish hair”. This leaves me with so many unanswered questions. Did Archie go from being completely bald to having more hair that Ellen (and red tufts at that) in one month? Was the polo baby a different baby than the christening baby? Was Archie born end of February / beginning of March, which would explain the 17 pound weight around August 12th, when he would be exactly 5.5 months old? This would also explain the May 8th metadata on the christening photos. But I still don’t understand WHY? Why would you not just announce the birth in March? Why the complicated photoshopping of christening photos if it would have been so much easier to just tell the truth?
SwampWoman said…
@NeutralObserver, I imagine it must be EXTREMELY depressing to the people of the UK! To me, as a whodunnit fan, I'm addicted to following the connections between an unknown actress, powerful politicians, Soho House, very expensive PR firms and A-list defenders of MM. Where IS the money coming from? She apparently kept a public relations firm and her agent on speed dial even when she wasn't working, and her earnings were not that much. Just those connections are extremely odd. Add to that the question as to whether there is a connection between female trafficker/Pimp Epstein, his aged out of his sexually desirable range former female companions now recruiters/traffickers of barely legal-aged (and less than legal-aged) females, Soho House, royal family members, and Epstein's further web of connections to anybody who was anybody in business, science, and academia. I can't decide if this was a giant blackmail scheme (sorry about that, Prince/Senator/former President/Professor/Mr. Business Leader, the girl SWORE she was 17 and now I find out that she was 12), a giant information-gathering nexus with information sold to the highest bidder, or both?

Where exactly does MM fit into this? Is she a mere grifter out for as much as she can grab before the game is up? Has she been carefully placed in order to negatively affect the RF? Is she just a California doofus, or somebody far more nefarious? What I do not think is that PH met MM by happenstance. I also don't think we'll ever know the truth about what has happened/is happening.
Girl with a Hat said…
the distance from Frogmore to the castle is at least 2 km so a tunnel would be very expensive to build. It's just much easier to have the person arrive in delivery van.

The renovations that were supposedly done at Frogmore would have lasted months and months if the renovations were so extensive. There was no way they were done in the short period of time between the announcement and the date they announced they moved in. They would require permits and these take months to grant because architects and engineers are needed to study the dossier.
NeutralObserver said…
@SwampWoman, Exactly, I'm a whodunnit fan as well. I want to put the puzzle together, & this is some puzzle. Agree, that for patriotic & country loving Brits, this must be depressing. We have our own depressing stuff in the US, & both countries have famous & powerful people involved in the very depressing Epstein s**tshow. Apologies for even bringing it up, it's more fun to look at the Megs show as if it were an HBO or Showtime series or something.
punkinseed said…
Yay! Welcome back mon ami!
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