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Some thoughts on security, and why Meghan should probably take it more seriously

Although I'm no fan of Meghan Markle, I've never wished that any physical harm would come to her. If I ruled the world, she'd have a long and uneventful life presenting low-cost jewelry on a home shopping network at 3am.

But it's a violent world we live in, and the Royal Family's own history is bloody. Although a major member of the family has not been seriously injured since 1979, when an IRA bomb blew up Philip's and Charles' mentor Louis Mountbatten, the threats are constant. (Princess Anne also fought off a kidnapping attempt in 1974).

All members of the Royal Family, from the Queen to Prince George, have been targeted by terrorists, and the Sussexes were the target of violent images by a racist extremist shortly after their wedding.

Unfortunately, Meghan doesn't seem to take her own security very seriously.


The long walk at Royal Albert Hall

Earlier this week, Duchess Megan took a long, slow walk through an arena-size crowd at Royal Albert Hall. 

The crowd had been expecting her - a security threat in itself. 

And although audience members were presumably metal screened and bag checked before entering, there were no barriers to keep them away from Meg as she took her spotlight stroll from the Royal Albert Hall's loggia, down through the stalls and the floor seating, and finally to the stage. 

Fortunately, there was no one with a plastic knife - or even an unwieldy bear hug - leaping out to assault the Duchess, who was glowing with the attention received during her extended entrance. 

Meghan's Royal Protection Officers must have been having hissy fits. 


Meg's bodyguard quit in January

This isn't the first time Meg's casual attitude towards security has been in the news. 

In January, her female bodyguard quit, reportedly for personal reasons, although she was the third person on Meghan's staff to quit in a very short period. At the time, a report in the Daily Telegraph (quoted in the paywall-free Daily Mirror) said:


Unlike someone who has grown up in the royal family and has been used to having close protection from an early age, it can be constraining. 
Even though she was a famous actress, she could still do what she wanted in the way of getting around freely. 
But in her current role she can’t go anywhere without her protection team, and that’s a massive constraining force on an individual like her.

And in February 2019 a post on the question-and-answer site Quora - since deleted - said 


I know someone who worked security recently for a visit to a city in the North West of England. 
He said that Meghan was rude and made life difficult for the security team that day. 
For their safety Harry and Meghan were asked to walk down one side of the rails and then up the other side. Harry was more than happy to oblige. 
Meghan didn't listen. She was crossing from one side to the other saying hello to people. Smiling and stopping to speak to her fans. 
Security asked her again and again, please stay on one side so we can protect you properly. Her response was, I will walk where I like.


Professional security people prefer experienced clients

Professional security people find it easiest to guard people who are experienced being protected and who appreciate it. 

Donald Trump, for all his faults, is reportedly popular with his Secret Service team; he's had security around him since his construction career took off 1980s, so he respects their advice and follows it. He even thanked them in his election-night speech.

(Jimmy Carter, a relative nobody before taking office, was reportedly the worst President to guard; he was rude and treated the security team like servants.)


The pressure of a walkabout

Royal Protection officers are very highly trained, and their duties involve putting their lives on the line for their Royal charges.

One ex-RPO, who now runs a private security service, told the Daily Express:


The most pressured part of a protection officer's role is a walkabout with the Royal Family. 
They are very much principals of the people and they want to go to speak to the public and the public wants to speak to them. 
It may only last for 15 to 20 minutes but it's mentally draining. You'll go back into the safety of a vehicle or a building afterwards and think, 'That was hard.' 
You're constantly checking out people in the crowd.
You're looking at hands, you're looking at eye contact, you're looking at dress - that's very relevant at a time like this when we are dealing with suicide bomber-type scenarios. Why has someone got a very heavy winter coat on on a lovely summer's day?
There was always the potential that something could happen and you were always thinking, 'What if?' What if I open the door now and we have an IED [improvised explosive device] go off? What if I open the door now and we take shots? What if I open the door now and the principal falls out of the car because we haven't parked in the right place and they step into a pot-hole? What if? What if? What if? 

How much more exhausting that job must be when the person you are supposedly protecting will not co-operate.


Not the highest-value target

Meg is not one of the highest-value targets in the Royal Family - that would be Charles, William, George, or the Queen herself.

But if you're a bad guy (or bad gal) and can't get to a high-value target, you go to easiest target available, which is why bad people stage attacks at Christmas markets and Ariana Grande concerts. 

Or you focus on Duchess Meghan, who is walking through a large audience with no protection in order to squeeze out every last bit of attention for herself. 


The aftermath

Unfortunately, an attack on Duchess Meghan - even one that did not physically injure her - would have serious repercussions. 

First of all, it would create an image that Meghan is a martyr - just as Harry sees his mother. 

And there would be suggestions that the cause of the attack was negative articles about Meghan in the tabloid press. 

What would that mean for press freedom, or freedom of speech in general?

Secondly, it would be the font of endless conspiracy theories. Was the Royal Family behind the attack? Who gave the go-ahead - was it Charles? William?

Thirdly, it could be a source of tension between the US and UK. 

If the incident took place in the the UK, American law enforcement officials would presumably have to be involved in the investigation because Meghan is a US citizen. Should it take place in the US, the UK security services would have to be involved because Meg is part of the British Royal Family. 

If it took place in a third country - Canada? Mexico? Botswana? - things would get even more complicated. 


The best approach

The easiest and best approach would be for Meghan to simply listen to her security experts and keep herself safe, so she can live a long, healthy, obscure life selling tacky jewelry to insomniacs. 

But listening to good advice has never been Meghan's strength. 

Comments

NeutralObserver said…
RE: racism, jealousy, royalty, etc. Below is a link to an article about Megs in the LA Times. It's pretty par for the course for what MSM here in the US writes about her.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2019-10-21/meghan-markle-tabloid-war-lessons-from-the-crown

Here's the thing about jealousy of the royals. I think in Kate's case there has often been quite a bit of Meeowing in her coverage, especially in the UK. Hilary Mantel's Barbie doll comment comes to mind. Now Ms. Mantel is obviously an accomplished & brilliant woman, (although I did find Wolf Hall to be a bit of a slog), but perhaps someone like her might find it a bit galling when a rather ordinary young woman like Kate, albeit a very nice & pretty one, glides into an easy looking berth like royalty. I know such women always try to make it seem as though they're worried about Kate being stifled in her gilded cage, but whatever.

Megs presents a completely different proposition to the forward looking & politically correct. Because she can legitimately claim to be a WOC, the politically correct can simultaneously signal their moral virtue in their support of a lowly WOC, but can secretly feel smugly condescending at the same time, because she is, after all, a lowly, weak WOC. So it's a win-win for them. They can appear to be nice people, while reenforcing their own sense of superiority. JMHO.
Jen said…
Archie is barely 5 months old, right? Seeing as she's near my age, and many of my friends have had trouble getting pregnant (or keeping a pregnancy) it seems like it would be pretty difficult for her to be pregnant this soon (if she actually did carry Archie). If she were 10-12 years younger, I might consider it possible, but her advanced age makes me think she would have a hard time getting pregnant.

Everyone is different, I know...

none said…
It's more than just hugging. Watch how she also rubs the recipients' backs. It's a narcissistic control thing. She does it with Harry as well with the hand holding, the arm grabbing, the guiding him along with her hand on his back.
CatEyes said…
With all the talk about Meghan's awful behavior (turning from a sweet fiance to a manipulative, abusive, domineering *B_tch'), I would like to know what basis her first husband got an annulment from her. I am willing to bet it was 'fraud', specifically fraud of character. I bet That husband has tales to tell; maybe we can hope he talks one day!

In the prior thread, I wrote about the different reasons (as I knew it) in California one can get an annullment.

Fairy Crocodile said…
Well the prince Charles documentary seems far better received then H&M drivel. I am so glad about it. It shows people care about things that matter, like environment, sustainable farming, preservation of traditions, support to local businesses. And Charles who will be King one day will be a traditional King (albeit with eccentric former love life, but that is history now). My support towards Charles has grown and I respect him a lot more.
KayeC said…
@Unknown, OMG!!! That funbag comment made me spit my coffee!!! Hadn't heard that in a long time. I agree she had them done, but this time they look better than her first "grapefruit under the skin" versions. I have to say that the colors she's been wearing(purple dress and the maroon/red today) look good on her. She needs to try more jewel tones, they compliment her skin and hair. However, as usual, the fit and mix are all wrong and the hair.....goodness. IMO, the reason she is re-wearing clothes is they have been cut off financially. Also, (since I have commented in a while, but love all the new voices) her outfits on SA tour looked very "off the rack." They look like two tourist on vacation (and she had her new boobs out for goodness sakes). The difference in the SA tour and Pakistan tour was clear, tourist compared to royals.
Well the hugging and back rubbing is definitely a power play. They actually teach that stuff. Once upon a time, not too long ago, I used to have a networking Coach (I know I know, but don't blame me, a girls gotta play to win). And part of his training was how to do a meet and greet that plays on people psychologically. How to look interested in a conversation, how to do a powerful handshake, how close to stand, we even rehearsed how to blink without breaking eye contact. Now this all sounds weird, and most it I dismissed, but I see a lot of those tactics in her interactions. She is after all, a master networker! If nothing, she can check her husband, leave the country, go to the US and teach networking to people. Nobody has done it as well as her.
NeutralObserver said…
@Brittania, Agreed 'tarty office worker' is the look Megs had going at today's appearance at Windsor Castle, of all places. In the US, we'd call it 'slutty office worker.' It could even do as a Halloween costume, there are lots of 'slutty' nurse, maid, policewoman costumes out there in shops at this time of year here in the US.

I wonder how successful one of the Smart Works ladies would be if they showed up for a job interview in Meg's getup? She was at a daytime 'work' event, after all.

I'm ok with Megs' getup for a Friday night hitting the bars with one's gal pals, but not for a married mother of an infant at 'work,' much less a royal one. I do think the more sylph like one is in a tight leather F**k Me skirt, the better. Speaking of F's, I think this outfit is a big FU to the Royal Family.
JL said…
@CatEyes, Disney made that movie. It’s called Maleficent.

At Gender Equality, think Harry’s suit look wrinkled and the only reason he is angry is because the press is there. It is never her.
Then there is her love of leather while proclaiming to all tht she is a vegan.

@Maggie Remember the quote from The Usual Suspects, "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist”?
This is Meghan and Harry. Am certain she has convinced Harry that the Royal Family is a cult that brainwashed him. All the while she was brainwashing him within her cult of two.

I find it so funny that Megs claims to a trailblazer in working women's attire because she played the role of an office going women. That makes her super qualified to design office attire. She was an actress! That was acting! She also grilled burgers in lingerie, that doesn't make her qualified to be a food critic and a chef does it?! Oh wait... It does! Lol
JenS said…
I can't with the lambskin; it's a giant FU to anyone who actually cares about animal cruelty and exploitation. I was nearly sick when I saw it. What happened to Miss Kindness Woke Vegan Dog-Adopter who threw a tantrum when she insisted she could taste EGGS in a vegan selection for the wedding luncheon? Clearly, that girl is gone and we've got the blast-from-the-90s Megs with Boobs and slut strands, parading in a red leather skirt and red suede CFM spike heels -- at an official engagement where she bangs on about gender equality and empowering women. SMH...

If one must dress like that to get the audience's attention, it's the opposite of empowerment.

@Alice, spot on: "It also helps her in her cause to appear to be carefree, approachable, one amongst the people.the narrative to sell would be 'oh she was so down to earth, always laughing and hugging, she never let anyone down if they wanted to shake her hand or get a hug, and she never once cared about her own safety. She is such a humanitarian!'"

Yes, this! Even if she doesn't fancy herself Diana 2.0, martyr edition, she does seem to see herself as a successor to Di's humanitarianism and People's Princess persona.

Ava C said…
@Alice And I do think another pregnancy would be announced very soon. It would be the perfect way to dampen down any criticism of her.

I really think another pregnancy would be the worst possible thing she could do. The great British public hasn't forgiven or forgotten all the insulting PR management of the last one. That sequence of events was, I think, as damaging as all the spending. Easily. To hit us with a re-run, when her popularity is really tanking (thanks Breitbart) would be crazy, crazy, crazy. But hey. That's what she does best!
Jenx said…
@Louise. Re: Trudeau. You have a point but don't get me started on Sophie, Canada's "First Lady". She is like a MM mini-me! LOVES attention! She was contained after the singing fiasco on MLK day, I believe, and we have not heard a peep from her since. Thank goodness.

I have never heard of the Ben&Jessica/Justin connection but I guess it would make sense. Off- spring of political royalty so they must travel in the same circles. I haven't really paid attention. And these circles are rather small in Canada.

Back to the dastardly duo - neither looks worse for wear. Rested, well-fed. The 6-week hiatus will be telling but I fear it may be more deception and gaslighting. The truth never to be known. And, dollars to donuts, madam does not stay quiet or hidden. I imagine it is going to put the Barnum in Bailey and give us a spectacular circus.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jenx. Sophie was in the entertainment industry. Justin obviously wanted to be an actor. The entertainment industry seems to attract a lot of people with unresolved psychological issues. I cannot imagine what living in Hollywood must be like. It's no wonder that Meghan wants to move back - it's the mother ship for her.
KitKatKisses said…
I really try not to comment on Meg's looks. If anything I think she can look pretty. What I most notice about her is how she always looks slightly different; it's hard to explain. But today, wow, that is not a good look. The hair, the low cut top, the too tight skirt....yikes. I would also like to say, I am over gender equality. Sure, maybe in the Middle East or Far East or Africa, but in the Western world, the horse is dead already. JMO.
Girl with a Hat said…
@JL, Harry's suit not only looks wrinkled, it looks badly cut. The way the fabric hangs makes it look like the fabric was cut on the bias for some strange reason. And there's an bulge for the shoulder padding which makes it look like his sleeves are rolled up. I think Harry bought himself a new suit but from a very cheap tailor.
Girl with a Hat said…
@KitKatKisses, I don't think gender equality is a dead issue in the West at all. But having Meghan, who slept her way to the top, represent this cause is laughable. How about someone like me who had to pay her own way through college because the parents thought that spending on a girl's education was futile? then having to work in a male dominated field where my brilliant work is dismissed out of hand because even though it was brilliant, it was done by a woman, so how hard could it be?
Anonymous said…
Charade, I can assure you that hugging everyone upon meeting is definitely not typical of Americans. In fact, I would argue that people who run around hugging everyone are usually seen as being fake. I live in Texas, and even in the South, where people have a reputation for being very friendly and warm, it's not normal. Which is a great relief to me. I am not a germaphobe, as was mentioned here as a reason for not liking hugging, but I am just not a physically demonstrative person. Also, I have fibromyalgia, and being grabbed and squeezed can cause me great pain. I would have issues with someone wanting to hug me, especially someone I was just meeting or didn't know well.
I saw the photos of today's event, the latest in Harry and Meghan's Woke AF Tour, and I cannot believe she went out wearing three different shades of red. And WHY does she think those stupid hunks of hair hanging in her face are a good look? Honestly, this chick is pushing 40. You'd think she'd have her act together by now when it comes to her physical appearance, but time after time it's a clothing fail, hair fail, and makeup fail. She's a mess.
I would love to see the PoW documentary. I am very interested in country life, farming, handmade goods, etc. Sounds right up my alley. I am not a fan of Charles, but I must say that by all accounts his management of the duchy has been excellent.
KitKatKisses said…
@Mischi, I'm sorry that has been your experience. I do not want to go too OT, so I will leave it at that.
Meowwww said…
Megs needed a camisole or something under that sweater. And I know the whole not-exactly-matching colors is a thing, but I just can’t.
The constant hair pushing really bugs me. Someone who isn’t a narcissist would have seen a video or two of themself constantly pushing their hair and been mortified. Realized it was an unconscious gesture and worked to not do it anymore. Don’t get me started on her foundation and bronzer, another thing a normal human would see on footage of themself and strive to fix.
At one point, pre Harry, she gave an interview where she said she refuses to cover her freckles, she loves them. She’s now moved on to freckle-colored bronzer.
I do sometimes feel bad for her. But then I catch myself and it goes away. I do think she is pretty though. And yes to whomever said she just looks different. Then again, I looked different at 40 than at 35.
Midwesterner here. NO HUGS. We just don’t really do that in my neck of the woods. I even hate shaking hands. Don’t touch me lol.
Nelo said…
Lainey is now pleading with the Cambridges and the Sussexes to make peace because no one is winning and it 'its the tabloids and Andrew that are coming out ahead'. Loooooooool. She used to tell us that the Sussexes are a formidable team that will take down the 'Cartel' and the 'royal vipers'. She deliberately avoided talking about Charles threat to cut off funds. Now she has realized that it's the 'tabloids that are coming out ahead'. Hypocrite
JLC said…
I would look forward to her next outing if her stiletto heel would get lodged in a pavement crack rendering her stuck, whereupon a raven would swoop down and make off with her wig for a nest...then directly caused by her struggles a butt pad would plop down her leg...

I am most likely headed to a bad place, but I already knew that anyway.
KitKatKisses said…
I was the one who said she looks different, but I don't mean from 3 years ago. I mean from day to day. On the SA tour when she wore that belted blue dress with her hair down, and the way she was stomping around she looked almost manic. And then I think it was that same night and she wore that long striped dress, her whole face looked different. I've seen it many other times too, and it seems more than just slightly different hair or makeup. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Lainey has some balls! she's the one who fanned the flames of the Meghan-Kate 'rivalry'. She has hated Kate for being everything she's not - gracious, raised by a loving family and most importantly, being white.

Lainey is so despicable, that she's also one of my favourite topics.

Her writing about Meghan recently is so over the top, one wonders if it was written by an obsessed stalker with a psychiatric holding order.
JLC said…
@KKK I know what you mean. Sometimes her face looks rounder and other times more sharp. Is it bloating from something? Not sure.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Kitkatkisses, I think you're referring to affect. The general appearance of a person which gives a clue to their inner thoughts.

I agree. She is either bipolar or her doctor is experimenting with some pharmaceuticals whose dosage hasn't been adjusted properly.
alice france said…
it has been reported that nearly £3 million has been spent on Frogmore Cottage. With such a sum, it would be useful to have mirrors in this cottage and especially with good lighting, but of course the workers forgot this little detail. Also, we see that Meghan dresses without being able to see what she looks like. She has to dress in a dark room. She doesn't look like an elegant and distinguished woman. Nothing is going well: the hanging hair, the different shades of red, probably no pantyhose and the sweater placed inside the skirt, big, big mistake with this style of sweater. I am still waiting for the moment when I will see her in a very refined, graceful and above all royal outfit. Obviously, it won't be for today.
CookieShark said…
Another day, another "surprise" visit for a planned event. This time however the surprise is Harry. As MM said, "Thanks for letting him crash the party" (I'm paraphrasing). As an event planner or project manager, I would be highly irritated for a VIP to show up as a surprise, particularly one in need of security like PH. I don't know why this is one of MM's go-to moves but she seems to think it is charming and fun. It's unprofessional and I can't believe she hasn't been advised against it. Perhaps she's not listening.
JL said…
@Mischi Now I think Harry’s wrinkled look is deliberate. If that cheap suit was new, I imagine him rolling around on the bed in it. I think he may be purposefully distinguishing himself from Princes Charles’ and William’s spit and polish to portray an every man. I have no words for that treasonous turncoat.

Now my ire has turned towards Charles. I blame him for not stopping the dreadful duo. He is the one who initially got rid of Lord Geidt and I bet top dollar that though the Queen brought LG back Charles is not listening to him. Charles is “hurt.” Meanwhile the Harkles know exactly how weak Charles his and keep doing what they love, now rolling out their grifting foundation to all the commonwealth nations.
Who let them have that foundation to begin with? Even if the county of Sussex can’t take the Harkles’ titles away, it needs to sue the Harkles for taking the name of the county for their personal money laundering and grifting brand.

Girl with a Hat said…
@JL, the problem with the Royals is that they have never had to play hardball with anyone. Maybe they thought they had with Diana, but not compared to someone who has to deal with a destructive narc with borderline personality tendencies. They think they will say something and the person will acquiesce because ... royalty.
Jdubya said…
i was trying to remember - hearing about some sort of contract Kate signed when marrying William - not a pre-nup for a contract for The Firm. So i googled it and found something else rather interesting.

But he was left £6.5million by his mother Princess Diana, which through investments is likely to have grown substantially since her death in 1997.

In addition, Prince Charles pays the costs of William’s household. Last year he spent £1.6million on personal expenses for himself, his wife and his sons.

And eight years before her death the Queen Mother reportedly placed two-thirds of her money in trusts for the benefit of her great-grandchildren. But the newly-titled Duchess of Cambridge has no income.

Without a prenup, it is left to lawyers to battle out a settlement if a couple divorce. The Duchess of York received £15,000 a year from Prince Andrew when their marriage ended after ten years in 1996.

But Princess Diana’s lawyers got her a £17million pay-off when she divorced Prince Charles.
Jdubya said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382591/Royal-Wedding-Why-Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-did-sign-pre-nup-agreement.html

sorry - this is the article i was quoting from
JL said…
The LA times: “Markle’s ascendance was an inspiration to many black girls and women. ”
This written by Anne-Marie O’Connor—white person.
How does she know this statement is true? Why does this white chick speak for the Black community?
As I’ve said, it is my experience that black women have excellent bullshit meters. Look what we’ve seen on Lipstick Alley.
Wendy Williams is an astute reader of her audience and would never criticize Markle if the prevailing wind among African Americans wasn’t blowing that way. Did you see the black woman on stage at The Price is Right event who actively avoided greeting Markle? Markle was going in for the sisterhood photo op but the woman wasn’t having it.
I can’t speak for black women either, but Anne-Marie O’Connor is an bought ahole.
Anonymous said…
@cateyes there was no annulment. In California, annulments are public record and there is no annulment on file for her and the supposed “first” husband.
lizzie said…
@drabedcarpet...but wasn't that annulment supposed to have occurred while she was in Illinois? And do we have reason to think that husband (if real) was a California resident?
SDJ said…
Did I detect a "slight" improvement in MM's comportment at the gender equality roundtable:

1. No Sussex claw!
2. She used the duchess slant instead of her usual crossed-leg position (although the table probably prevented the crossed legs...)
3. Flattering colours, fairly flattering silhouette

Baby steps!

I do wish she would wear British labels. She seems to avoid them like the plague.
Artemisia19 said…
I’m starting to think her hugging is another affection of hers. She just seems more and more manic.
FGB said…
It appears that royalty suing the media for "bullying" is catching.

https://twitter.com/OAanmoen/status/1187765283018235905
NeutralObserver said…
I don't think the UK or the RF will ever get rid of Megs. Lots of metallic comparisons for her character. Charles said, 'tungsten' more common ones would be bold as brass, hard as nails. She's punched that meal ticket, & she'll never let it go. I think she's working on her second 'pregancy,' whatever its origins might be, a freezer in a fertility lab or not. If she drives Harry off the cliff, so be it. She'd probably love being a royal widow. She is damaging the prestige of the RF, but they've sort of brought it on themselves, first, by not thoroughly vetting her and demanding a delay in the nuptials, & secondly in not being able to rein her in after the wedding. There have been lots of unpopular royals before, the Duke of Windsor, Wallis Simpson, Princess Margaret, Princess Michael. For the time being Megs is getting more ink because she's a WOC, but the public might tire of reading about her in time. I think she LOVES all of the attention she's getting, whether it's negative or not.
Unknown said…
Let me ask you all something. If you were in Meghan's shoes, had her life of struggling to find jobs, her family and friends, her so called "yachting", ageing actress with a soon to end show, and then meeting Harry and supposedly falling in love.

What would be your reasons for not doing all you could to fit into the family in your supporting role?
Girl with a Hat said…
A lot of women of colour I know have had to scrabble hard for whatever they have attained professionally and materially. I understand why they are turned off by this entitled person who doesn't even identify as black.
Anonymous said…
I don’t know @lizzie but in Illinois, annulment records are public record through the domestic relations division— same as divorce
Humor Me said…
Regarding MM wardrobe choices today coinciding with what Queen Letizia wore yesterday. Who wore it better? Thank you DM for the pix- no question. sMH
Is it just me or does anyone else think Harry and Meghan's chemistry was totally off at the event today? The couple of videos that I watched of her speaking were so awkward. Like she was trying too hard. And so many awkward pauses,neither the audience not Harry seems to be reacting to her.
Ilona said…
@Maggie "Though let's be grateful she's given up taking an oversized tote everywhere she goes. She doesn't need to carry her lunch any more."

What a fantastic one-liner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mimi said…
She looks cheap, scruffy, her hair is hideous, her choice of clothes inappropriate as always and is “flaunting” her boobs in everyone’s face her new thing? I found it offensive in SA and find it just as disgusting back in Britain.
CatEyes said…
@Drabredcarpet From multiple sources, Meghan's first marriage was to Joe Guiliamo (AKA Joe Goldsmith-Guiliamo) and marriage was annulled. In California one can request records such as this annulment can be sealed (so no one can find a record of it). I'm the 'queen' of California Marriage Annulments, having successfully been awarded three (even when my last ex hired an attorney who vowed I would not get one. I laughed and told him I would, which I did all on my own acting in 'pro se').
Mimi said…
Someone brought up Queen Letizia. I USED to like her, thought she looked classy, regal, dignified, etc. until I saw that APPALLING video of her yanking her daughters ear - HARD - in church, and all the other psycho behavior. Talk about looks can be deceiving. Now I look and her and think....she is a true psycho!!!!!!!!!
I believe mm looks different because she has most definitely got some work done on her face. As for her looks chabging every day, it could be because
1. She has rarely been seen without makeup since her marriage. So who knows.
2. She slathers bring her on her face like there is no tomorrow. In SA at times she stayed off of it, so she looked different.
3. She probably got some face lift? And it's just about setting in?
4. She wears wigs, clip on, then she ditched them some days and that's when she actually looks nice.
5. Her face looks better with side part straight hair, no wigs, no bronzer. In SA esp, she did that a couple of times and looked completely different.
6. Her mental state is reflected in her face, as in her attitude IMO. Some days she is like a Godzilla on a mission, so brazen and in your face. Those are the days she looks manic and harsh. When she is playing the shy, coy, relatable as f*** girl next door her face her body her demeaner is all changed. That's one very odd thing about her.
I’m really shocked to hear Jimmy Carter was nasty to his security. He just doesn’t seem like that type of person. A terrible President but by most accounts, a great person. Wow. I’m not at all surprised to hear Trump is liked by his security. I know he’s considered literally Hitler by many but he seems like he knows how to deal with people.

Anyway. I am not surprised to hear Meghan is a hassle and rude. Her little beady rodent eyes and frenzied grin doesn’t hide the glitter of cruelty in her eyes. I don’t want anything to happen to her either, of course not, but I can’t say I wouldn’t like her to just go away. GO AWAY! We have enough lecturing, nagging, wanna be mommy types trying to tell us how to live and how terrible we are.
Jen said…
I've been reading some of the comments on the DM, and it appears that many Brits who are defending Megsy don't seem to truly know her background. I saw quite a few who claim that she came from a poor background and worked her way up to being rich. Can they make the bots more obvious?
Mimi said…
and speaking of hair... (I am on a roll today). Personally, I just love Kate’s hair. It is long, thick and very beautiful. I believe her natural hair is a bit unruly so she has it tamed and styled on her royal engagements and it looks nice. If I had her hair, I would let it grow as long as I wanted which would be down to my waist. I wouldn’t care what people thought or said. The only thing I would do a bit different for her is perhaps style it a little bit off her face, pinned up on the sides, but that’s it, as it looks neater that way. I think she gets pressured into getting her hair cut and trimmed regularly. As for megs hair......no....just NO!!!!!
Girl with a Hat said…
@Mimi, I agree about Kate's hair. She had great hair to begin with. Strong and lovely colour but she improved upon what nature gave her very subtly so that she really looks outstanding.

It's the same she has done with everything else. Yes, we know that there have been tweaks here and there, but not in a way that makes it look obvious and tacky. That's what style is
Mimi said…
Kate has her own style and I have seen her go from her very short dresses to her more modest and appropriate style over the years and she looks like a future queen consort should look.

As for meg...poor girl. The only time I ever saw her dressed like what I think a Duchess should look like was soon after their wedding....something out in he garden, at Charles birthday maybe..she had on a pretty soft pink dress with a pink hat, her hair pinned back. And wearing stockings! She looked very nice. And then what a shock to see her dressed like all kinds of weirdness ever since then!
Anna85 said…
Did anyone notice how she talked down on Harry today? She mentioned how nobody noticed Harry's work since 2013 and then laughed!
Mimi said…
It has been said in many places and many times that they were thrown out of that party but NOBODY knows that for a fact. I read somewhere that they had someplace else they needed to be...... and were simply reminded....you need to leave now.
abbyh said…
I was thinking that perhaps the facial changes are due to some hormonal shots for like IVF?

This would tie into the idea of another baby.

Diana watched what Fergie got and knew she wanted more because her sons were next in line and she didn't have a lot of back up (education, job skills, inheritance). Her phone bill was in the thousands.
Mimi said…
The change from the Mary Magdalen reject at the mosque body and her body today is quite .....what’s the word.....fibro brain 😰
Hikari said…
Based on today's engagement look, I have a few questions for Her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Sucks-So-Hard:

1. Your HRH, your skirt is red and your blouse and shoes are what appear to be magenta. Is this what you mean by 'monochrome'? Because in my world that constitutes two colors, and 'mono' means 'one'.

2. Is Yourself actually able to breathe in this skirt or sit down? It looks a bit snug. That is some Herculean zipper doing its work back there.

3. You will have to forgive me since I am not as engaged and woke as Yourself, but do you experience any internal dissonance at all when you proclaim yourself a vegan while at the same time wearing designer leather goods? Or are those shoes and skirts 'pleather'? Please advise.

4. Please take a moment and select which look you were actually aiming to hit today, on an official engagement at the home of Her Majesty, the Queen:

a) A Royal Duchess representing the Queen of Great Britain.

b) Samantha Jones from Sex & the City working a cocktail soiree in Manhattan circa 1999 with a particularly rumpled junior executive as her date.

c) A convention circuit prostitute escorting your current john. One more tour of the free bar and then you two are going straight up to the room. Or perhaps you have just come straight down from the room?

d) A 'Secretary' audition reject who stole her audition outfit from the Suits wardrobe room

5. What do you plan to do with Harry's testicles which you currently keep in a safe at Soho House?
a) Have your jewelry designer friend gold-plate them and fashion them into earrings?

b) Wash them down with a glass of the Tig?

c) Send them to William in a velvet-lined box with an extortion demand as a warning of What You Are Capable Of?

d) Post an arty photo on the SussexOfficial Instagram as a call to arms for your sugars?

e) Ever restore them to their rightful owner? He's looking really lost without them.
Jen said…
@Hikari....omg 😂😂😂😂😂
Mimi said…
Hikari, where have you been, missed ou! Your post was just too hilarious! I loved it! as for hairy the duke of dumb- bastard, his testicles....I think she could use them as you said as earring or perhaps as a hair ornament or dangling from her purse strap, maybe a necklace???
Mimi said…
Hikari, I might have to incorporate the gilded testicles into my Halloween costume.........pin them to my Mary Magdalen scarf?
Hikari said…
Mimi,

I am uncertain whether Haz has one boy or two. He had to have an operation as a child for an undescended testicle, but I don't know if it was damaged or had to be removed. So perhaps a matched pair of earrings is out; she could hang the remaining one as a rear-view window ornament or perhaps as a pendant. If she gets it crusted with tiny diamonds it could match her oh-so-classy wedding band upgrade.

Discussion of Harry's meagre allotment of the Windsor family jewels no doubt constitutes 'bullying'. Good thing I am not a major tabloid newspaper. Underneath the levity is a genuine concern that Meglodon has deprived her husband of something(s) which should be his by right. If that's not marital abuse, I don't know what is.

Plus, he has brought this on himself. If he still acted as though he had his birth-issued pair in his possession, there'd be no reason to joke about it. But they appear to be most definitely gone now. I'm sure that is the real reason he is so agitated these days. She's holding them hostage and won't give them back.
Mimi said…
Oh Hikari, I have tears from laughing so hard! You really are too much! And fyi...he had a “hernia” operation!
Mimi said…
and yeah, he had a “hernia” operation like she had an “appendectomy(s)”.
KnitWit said…
A woman who alledgedly casting couched for work and yachted for spending money and is only invited to such events because of her husband is not a feminist by the traditional definition. She is not independent. Her father, boyfriends and husbands supported her and provided her job opportunities. She is an insult to truly independent women. Women like her who sleep around to advance their " careers" annoy women who survive by hard work and talent.

Better to be honest like Kate who wanted to be a stay at home wife and mother ( albeit a royal one).

Showing up for a women's empowerment event wearing a slutty secretary outfit is ridiculous.
Ava C said…
I can't get over her wearing a lambskin skirt again. I read at the time about the earlier green one, that it was from lambs who have never even been born. Couldn't bear to think of it. And now this one. How the hell can you do that and at the same time claim to care about animals? Miss Only-Vegan-on-a-Weekday.

She's acting all the time, but only in the form of the most basic imitation and she's incapable of then understanding how it was received and why. She never develops and she never learns. Transmissions are one-way only. Outwards. Hence her unending hustle as she's not spending energy on introspection and self-examination.

I was pleased to see that the DM's review of her current lower clothing spend cut no ice with readers today, who think either she's been ordered to do it or it's a dishonest, insincere PR strategy or she's been cut off. And whatever it is, everyone (apart from commentators like FairySparkles from somewhere sparkly or something like that - can only read it once) has decided it's Too Late.
Mimi said…
KnitWit.......tell that to her fans!!!!!!
Hikari said…
Is that what they are calling it? :p

Well, as I understand it (only vaguely, since I don't have the items in question) the testes live in the abdominal cavity until they descend at puberty. That is the same area affected by hernia. I read that he had this operation at seven years of age, which is far too young for puberty but they must have been aware of a blockage and maybe he was hurting so they had to act at such a young age. Having only one functioning testicle compromises a man's fertility but not totally. I know a man with one testicle who has fathered at least three kids. Three acknowledged ones, anyway.

It's hard for a civilian man to confront a lack of fertility; imagine how much worse the pressure on a royal in a world where bloodlines are everything. Hence the shenanigans over Archie, and hence, why H.'s family might have put it about that he had a 'hernia' operation as a young boy. If Haz is thusly afflicted, that would be one more reason for his self-esteem to take a hit. Harry just can't measure up to his brother in any arena. Certainly not in his taste in wives.
Mimi said…
Ava, I don’t think Charles would cut off her clothing allowance or any of the allowances she gets for a stylist, etc. I don’t know how that works and if someone on here knows I would like them to explain it so I can understand as this “cutting off her funding” and is why she is rewearing her clothes works. The way I understand it, Charles monies for supporting his family and his children's families was increased by $ (a huge number) when H and M married. I imagine funds are allotted for her clothing, stylist, hair, makeup, etc. I don’t know if that is given to them in one lump sum at the beginning of their fiscal year or if she gets reimbursed per royal engagement or HOW that works. IMO she takes the money and pockets it and gets her clothes from Jessica or from designers she wears clothes for merching purposes and does her own hair and makeup which shows as it is hideous.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, hilarious post. As for Harry's testicles, I think she's already removed them, or the one remaining one. She sliced them up into thin slices,had them gilded, (Harry was gelded), & wore them with her black jumpsuit to sit on the floor with moms who had Aids in SA. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
Nutty Flavor said…
The Royals' Fiscal Year runs from April 1 to March 31. It's late October, a bit more than halfway through.

Perhaps Meg used up her allowance for the 2019-20 year and is wearing low-cost outfits until the new fiscal year comes around. (If it ever comes around for her.)

Alternately, after her overspending in the 2018-19 year, perhaps her budget was cut sharply for this fiscal year. (The famous $100,000 Morocco caftan would have been part of the last fiscal year's budget.)
Girl with a Hat said…
Here's a question for everyone - why would Harry deliberately look rumpled as someone has suggested? I don't get it.
Mimi said…
p.s. I am flat on my back with what feels like a hatchet buried in my spine (fibro). And no, no pain meds...just Motrin and a heating pad. That is why I have all the time in the world to be commenting on here. Sorry if I am annoying....as Tatty once said.....please let me know when I am being rude (?). In my case....annoying. I promise I will slink off and just lurk with my glass of moonshine...er...Tignanello (pronounced TEEN NA YELLO). got that Meghan?
Mimi said…
Nutty, Do you honestly believe she paid that much for ONE dress ( the Morocco caftan). One dress that she would probably never wear again? It was quite loose and to alter it to fit a non-pregnant shape would be almost impossible. They’d have to cut the dress in half and go from there. She could have very well bought the dress and paid that much for it with the idea or turning around and reselling it and getting back the full amount or close to it. That is crazy though...that much money on one dress????????? How many kids would that clothe and feed for one year?
SwampWoman said…
Hikari, most boys are born with descended testicles. A premature boy is more likely to have undescended testicles. In order to keep from having an effect on fertility, the operation to correct the undescended testis should be done by @ 15 months of age but earlier is better.
NeutralObserver said…
@Mimi, Megs definitely has that DIY look in terms of hair, make up & clothing, speeches, etiquette. In fact there's a faint possiblity that some of her blunders abroad might have been because she & what's-his-name don't get the briefings & advance work that the other royals do. The tv series W1A had a hilarious episode about Charles visiting BBC headquarters. In a prep meeting, the BBC laiason officer listed things like 'no sweet corn' & a dedicated loo for Charles's use which had to be sealed off 3 days in advance. The actress who played the laiason exec. was hilarious. Megs has been criticized for not accepting proffered food items in foreign countries, perhaps she has allergies or something, or wasn't briefed on how to interact with certain cultures. Maybe she doesn't have the staff to help her look & act professional on her engagements. Again, very puzzling.
Hikari said…
@Neutral,

>>>@Hikari, hilarious post. As for Harry's testicles, I think she's already removed them, or the one remaining one. She sliced them up into thin slices,had them gilded, (Harry was gelded), & wore them with her black jumpsuit to sit on the floor with moms who had Aids in SA. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.<<<

Perhaps she sauteed them after slicing them thin in a little garlic and enjoyed them with a nice Chianti . . ? Probably any number of recipes available since the British are keen on sweetbreads.

******

If healthy testicles are descended at birth, then why do I so often hear the phrase 'Have your balls dropped yet?' I assumed that was a secondary sex characteristic signalling sexual maturity and that they wouldn't be fully descended in very young boys. Kind of akin to girls getting their breasts growing in.

I've got no brothers and nobody of the male persuasion around with whom I could possibly discuss such a delicate topic . . but there is always WebMD!
Nutty Flavor said…
@Mischi, looking rumpled could be a kind of middle finger to the world, a last act of little-boy rebellion.

Now that Edward Lane Fox is gone, it seems no one is checking for Harry before he goes out the door. The Queen can complain later (and does - we saw William apparently responding to her complaints about his short-sleeved shirt during Kate's garden exhibition) but by then the event is over.

People who feel out of control of their own lives tend to rebel in the only way they can.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Mimi, I don't think we really know how much she spends on any of her clothes - or how much Kate spends, for that matter. All we can go off of is the "sticker price", and designers may be offering discounts, or even paying Meg to wear their clothes.

That said, I believe she thought that the Morocco caftan was going to be her outfit to wear onstage at the Oscars, perhaps to present one of the Best Picture nominees, as her PR friend Serena Williams ended up doing alone.

For a once-in-a-lifetime event like that, she may have thought a big spend was worthwhile, particularly when it wasn't her own money.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, 'but there's always WebMD!' I burst out laughing, something I don't often do. I DM commenter who asked if Megs had Harry on a soy diet, & had 'she snipped them off?' did the same thing to me.
NeutralObserver said…
'A DM commenter' not 'I DM commenter.' Most of the time I ignore my typos, sorry!, but this one made the sentence nonsensical.
Mimi said…
Nutty, you’re right and I DO think she would pay that much for that dress to be worn as a presenter at the Oscars. The dress was beautiful but it still made me uncomfortable that due to the type of fabric used, it clung to her and showed things I’d rather not see, like her protruding belly button. ugh!
Louise said…
Anna85: I also noticed that zinger from Smarkle about no one noticing Harry's work. Wowza.
Hikari said…
Neutral said:

>>>In fact there's a faint possiblity that some of her blunders abroad might have been because she & what's-his-name don't get the briefings & advance work that the other royals do . . .Megs has been criticized for not accepting proffered food items in foreign countries, perhaps she has allergies or something, or wasn't briefed on how to interact with certain cultures. Maybe she doesn't have the staff to help her look & act professional on her engagements. Again, very puzzling.<<<

I'm sure Meg was provided with several protocol advisors upon her advent into the Firm, but as we know, Meg does not listen. Nor does she possess enough humility to be instructed. When she is instructed yet does nothing as she has been taught to do it, either she's dumb as a landfill OR she willfully refuses to do anything she is told, ever, to assert how much better and smarter she is than everyone else. Toss up. I'm going with 50/50 on that.

Meg illustrates two really unfortunate signature Narc traits in combination:
1. She is better than everyone else around her in every way possible, so no one has anything to teach her. She is here to Teach Them!
2. Narcs tend to overestimate their mastery of skills and abilities and think they outdazzle everyone else no matter what they attempt. Hence Meg's thespian career on a par with Dame Helen Mirren and the beautiful 'calligraphy' on display in her diatribe to her estranged father. She already knows everything worth knowing in her own mind. It's impossible to teach someone like this a damn thing.

She probably came in pre-engagement and assured everyone she'd done a whole degree in international relations and was eager to 'hit the ground running'. They took her at her world and declined to teach her things she already knew, according to her. I think allowing her to make an international a$$ of herself in Morocco was an early form of Royal shade-throwing. "You already know internatinal protocol for every country and religious group via osmosis? Have at it then, girlie!" Ditto the 'Abduction from the Seraglio' look in SA.

The problem is, in Markle the BF have come up against a person who is utterly immune to embarrassment or shame. Harry is not immune; he's carrying a double load, his n' hers, which is why he looks like such utter shite these days.

I'm trying to reconcile how these Narc traits correspond with the allegedly fragile ego that makes them wig out at any criticism. I'm having a hard time with it.
Jenx said…
@Mimi and the protruding belly button is pretty near identical to one on a moon bump.
SwampWoman said…
@ Hikari:

If healthy testicles are descended at birth, then why do I so often hear the phrase 'Have your balls dropped yet?' I assumed that was a secondary sex characteristic signalling sexual maturity and that they wouldn't be fully descended in very young boys. Kind of akin to girls getting their breasts growing in.

Well, I'm not sure why you would hear that phrase unless they are intimating that the person they are addressing is infantile and/or less than manly.

I forgot to mention that the testes can be drawn back up into the abdomen from the scrotum when infants are quite young, and can play peek-a-boo. If you had livestock, you would know, because you would have to make sure that the testes were in the scrotum before you removed them. All males can have undescended testicles that require attention because, in addition to fertility problems, they can become cancerous.
Hikari said…
@Louise,

>>>I also noticed that zinger from Smarkle about no one noticing Harry's work. Wowza.<<<

Harry, the poor sod, is now in the Narcissist's Devaluation phase, I believe. The love-bombing stopped within 5 months of the wedding, with Bump Gate and the daily screaming matches about the 'pregnancy'. Harry's now in the wilderness. 'Dispose' is coming shortly. Maybe during the '6 Week Break' in America. Feels a bit soon, but it seems to me that she's accelerated her meglomaniacal plan since the 2nd trip to NYC. She's probably got some hot deals in the pipeline and has to be in America for them. Harry's going to be dumped in the New Year, let's hope.
Hikari said…
>>>Well, I'm not sure why you would hear that phrase unless they are intimating that the person they are addressing is infantile and/or less than manly.<<<

In the context of adult men questioning pre-teen boys it could be either. I thought it was also a developmental phase.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Louise said...
Anna85: I also noticed that zinger from Smarkle about no one noticing Harry's work. Wowza.


Was this some kind of bad horrible joke? This is one of the worst things I've ever heard a woman say about her husband, well, except for maybe "Of COURSE the baby isn't yours. To become pregnant I needed a man!"

That is such a lack of respect being shown for her husband that I'm embarrassed for both of them.
abbyh said…
Someone mentioned that wearing something under the sweater top today would be good.

Given the coolness, I would have been concerned of a Farrah Fawcett moment.
Artemisia19 said…
I wonder how long it’s going to take MM to get into her thick skull that she is a public servant and all that money is not for free. To be so ignorant of this fact is just mind-blowing to me.
Mimi said…
This is going to sound real petty but I just have to. It has bothered me to no end that Meghan claimed/claims she used to get paid for addressing envelopes or something in “calligraphy”. I have been studying and practicing calligraphy for many years and I am still not confident enough to dare attempt to make money by doing it professionally. What she calls “calligraphy”. is a joke. it is just handwriting with some decorative flourishes thrown in there willy nilly! HOW DARE SHE CALL IT CALLIGRAPHY!!!!! 😡
Unknown said…
"She's acting all the time, but only in the form of the most basic imitation and she's incapable of then understanding how it was received and why. She never develops and she never learns. Transmissions are one-way only. Outwards. Hence her unending hustle as she's not spending energy on introspection and self-examination."

Well said, @Ava C. That's one of the most astute readings of Markle's character that I've seen.
Anonymous said…
@hikari testicles are NOT in a boy’s abdominal cavity before puberty. One testicle is perfectly fine for fertility— having one doesn’t diminish fertility into infertile territory (azoospermia) and is no cause for alarm or shame for a man. Having two is a back up.
Louise said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7612961/Meghan-Markle-takes-roundtable-discussion-gender-equality.html#comments

The video where Smarkle puts Harry down can be seen here beginning at 1:15.

Otherwise, it is the usual word salad about "communities working together", although strangely this time she said "communities and territories". Territories? Does she now think that she is the Empress Victoria?
KnitWit said…
Perhaps she resells her designer pieces. It would be a way to launder money.

I think their clothing allotment should be given to a royal stylist who approves all purchases.

They have a royal budget but look common.
Anna85 said…
@Louise: "I also noticed that zinger from Smarkle about no one noticing Harry's work. Wowza."

I am from SA, and I lost all respect for these 2 since they used our country as the background for their supposed misery.
We live in a country ridden by crime, economic downfall, joblessness and extreme division. We worry for our and our children's future, and they come here to beg sympathy in their privileged selfishness.
I started reading up on them, and I believe she is absolutely manipulating Harry, and this has been further established through this comment today, the way he was treated like her servant and how she completely puts herself at the center of things.. It's just me me me all the way. She is not serving any cause but her own.
Mimi said…
abbyh, Some say (and it looks like) she has recently had implants. Either she did get implants or she is wearing super padded push up bra’s.
SwampWoman said…
This is going to sound real petty but I just have to. It has bothered me to no end that Meghan claimed/claims she used to get paid for addressing envelopes or something in “calligraphy”. I have been studying and practicing calligraphy for many years and I am still not confident enough to dare attempt to make money by doing it professionally. What she calls “calligraphy”. is a joke. it is just handwriting with some decorative flourishes thrown in there willy nilly! HOW DARE SHE CALL IT CALLIGRAPHY!!!!! 😡

Sounds like you would make bank in Hollyweird.
Anna85 said…
@Louise:
The video where Smarkle puts Harry down can be seen here beginning at 1:15.
Also at 1:02 where she basically says that no one noticed as much the work Harry had been doing and then laughs hysterically.
Louise said…
Anna85: At least she didn't rehash the "when I was 11 years old.... letter.... Procter and Gamble, blah, blah, blah.....

But I agree, it is me, I, moi without end.
Unknown said…
There’s a new piece entitled “When Harry Met Self-pity”, I believe it’s in the Herald Sun, quite scathing! It’s behind a paywall but it’s up on the MMTCD site if interested!
Louise said…
Anna85: That laugh was creepy.
NeutralObserver said…
@Mimi,@Swampwoman,This is going to sound real petty but I just have to. It has bothered me to no end that Meghan claimed/claims she used to get paid for addressing envelopes or something in “calligraphy”. I have been studying and practicing calligraphy for many years and I am still not confident enough to dare attempt to make money by doing it professionally. What she calls “calligraphy”. is a joke. it is just handwriting with some decorative flourishes thrown in there willy nilly! HOW DARE SHE CALL IT CALLIGRAPHY!!!!! ��

Sounds like you would make bank in Hollyweird.

LA is a town where housewives take pole dancing & eating your newborn's placenta is a thing. That's in the last several years, I don't know what's going on there now. I did have an old buddy who worked for a big studio's top exec's wife for a while when my friend was in her twenties. I don't know what the wife did, because my friend did everything from tutoring her kids to ordering the flowers & hiring the caterers for her dinner parties. The wife did not have a job. My friend was pretty scathing about the wife's manners, she did say that in LA 'old money means 2 years.' So yeah, LA Isn't like a lot of places.

I'm going to descend into off topic socializing here, but I have to say, SwampWoman, some of the dinners you make for SwampMan sound delicious, & I'm a vegetarian! I haven't eaten bratwurst or pork, shredded or otherwise, in years. Some of the very best pork I've ever had (in my omnivorous years) was from a little hole-in-the-wall place in the Florida Everglades in the middle of nowhere. They roasted it some underground bbq thing that was like a Hawaiian Imu. The pork could be eaten with a fork, it was so tender, & the BBQ sauce was to die for. We brought a jar home, & my husband was miffed when I managed to finish it before he could. We should have bought a case. I don't know what the name of the place was, & it was years ago. All I know is that it was within driving distance of Miami. I know Megs & What's-it would probably prefer you give up anything that produces methane gas, but I hope you & SwampMan enjoy many more years of omnivorous dining together.
Mimi said…
Yes, they make a kind of smoothie with the placenta. It can be dried out and made in to capsules and God only knows what other kinds of ways to recycle it.
Mimi said…
and darn you SwampWoman, I went out and bought a pork loin and all the other ingredients you mentioned the other day so that I could make it for Mr. Mimi when he comes home from being on the road. Pork is BIG in this house. But I woke up with this hatchet buried in my spine and can hardly walk so I can’t stand and chop or sautee or anything that requires standing or walking. So can you tell me an EASY way to deal with this pork loin that is going to go rotten if I don’t make it today or tomorrow?
CookieShark said…
Just watched the video from the roundtable. Good grief she is front and center for all of it, including the photos. She talks about herself, insults Harry and laughs about it in the first two minutes, complete with word salad and her weird hand gestures.

She is vile.
Mimi said…
can’t watch it. Did Hairy laugh too? p.s. what an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Miggy said…
Gosh, she really did her homework on Hapless Harry.

This from 2013...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uEq19sAf10

Miggy said…
@Mimi

Harry's face dropped when she insulted him.
Fairy Crocodile said…
People, are you serious she said nobody noticed Harry's work since 2013 and then laughed? I don't listen to her word salad any more. Whatever she is taking has damaged her brain.
abbyh said…
I am not SwampWoman but this is a recipe very very similar to what MrA likes. Instead of rice wine, try oyster sauce.

https://thewoksoflife.com/chinese-bbq-pork-cha-siu/

Miggy said…
MEGHAN could be forced to hand over text messages, emails and phone records in an upcoming court battle over a letter she sent to her estranged father Thomas Markle.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10215142/meghan-markle-hand-over-text-messages-court-battle-dads-letter/
JHanoi said…
Ugh. I haven’t seen the video of her insulting him yet, but she sounds vile. What about invictus? He didnt do it all himsef but he was most definitely the face of it and represented it to all the counries/ territories/ leaders etc. it got great press because of him.

She’s done nothing , a third rate actress/climber.

Clothing- her reds do not match, the sweater and shoes seem close enough but the skirt is the wrong color. She needs hose.
And also desperately needs to either cut the loose strands or tack them down. She’s constantly fiddling with them and it’s not cute, sexy, ingenueish, attractive. It’s extremely distracting from what ever word salad point she is trying to make. She needs to pay attention to other world leaders or their wives and see that flyaway hair doesn’t work.

She doesn’t listen to her RF advisors or much of anyone but maybe SS. She’s started this last week to wear /rewear clothes, limit or reduce the super expensive designer stuff to be more relatable. They used the battery car instead of a gas car to appeal to the climate change crowd.

There’s a new tatler pole saying 55% of brits think shes good for the RF. They dont empathsize that the poll was from Sept 6-8 long before H & M stirred the pot with their war on press and RF drama.

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JHanoi said…
She said something like he’s been working in the field of gender equality since 2013 and nobodies noticed it. Hahaha

I do have to admit I like her lower smooth speaking voice, probably years of training at NW. I happen to have a hi-pitch shriller voice and am envious.
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Mimi said…
Charade, good obs. What would you call the leg crossing where she was on
that panel wearing a super short dress that showed her nether regions to the audience?
Unknown said…
LOL @Mimi. I just don't know. Maybe we can come up with a name? Hahaha...
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Mimi said…
Charade, I think we are all tired to the gruesome twosome and their insanity has worn us (me) down. In my opinion, Royalty should mean, ROYAL, dignified, ultra professional conduct at all times. A sincere, quick, firm handshake and eye contact is all that is needed in most cases.. I think it worked very well for Kate and William. They didn’t grab, cling and embrace in bear hugs. They were warm yet dignified with their greetings. Since when does royalty run up to people and crash into them for a hug....Meghan greeting Beyonce and everybody else. SO UNDIGNIFIED! Beyonce is a nobody. Royalty doesn’t do that! Crashing into the woman on stage, how effing embarrassing! Forcing children to hug her or endure her hugs...they don’t know her, they are clearly uncomfortable being made to do that.

AGAIN, she is channeling poor beloved departed ? departed beloved ? Diana but she can’t because there is no genuine, sincere warmth in her. Everything she does is just for show and sadly, so transparent to us who have eyes and can see through her.
Mimi said…
abbyh, thank you. I will have Mr. Mimi pick up the oyster sauce. Sounds yummers!
Mimi, the easiest way to make a pork loin is in the crock pot. Cut an onion, put it on the bottom, rub the loin with whatever spices you want (I usually do bbq type stuff) set it fat side up then cook it on low til it falls apart. I like to make bbq sauce then make pulled pork sandwiches, SE NC style. Easy and delicious.
JL said…
DanJa Zone or Celt News had some interesting things to say re the topics above.
—In South Africa Fred-DoH blurted out to the doc film crew that he is infertile and then begged them not to run it.
I buy him blurting. Think the stress of all the lies is getting to him so he is unconsciously blowing it.

—BP told him he had to join his wife today to watch or and rein her in. This could be the reason for her toxic derision. She is angry at him for caving to their pressure, alrhough toxic derision is her normal state when not figuring out how to get something from you.

—I think she is chomping at the bit to make a beeline for Alex Ohanian. Tired and mixed metaphors I know.


Yes Mischi the RF and Fred-doH have no experience in fighting dirty, leaving that to courtiers. But the Tommy Lascelles of the world seem to be gone. They have to go big on her—like High Treason. Nothing else will ever work.
abbyh said…
If he is infertile, then the whole born of the body thing is ... circumnavigating the law. And would explain a lot. Still does not make it legal.
Mimi said…
Astra Worthington, Oh that sounds so delish! I ‘ve got all the stuff so am going to throw it all in the crock pot and call it done. Thanks!!! 🤗
JL said…
Also who said that they don’t much like queen Letizia? I’ve have had a problem with that woman ever since she wouldn’t allow her mother-in-law to pose for an Easter photo with her granddaughters while the cameras were rolling in church. She and Meghan should be friends. Kind Philip is another Harry to a lesser degree.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/spains-queen-letizia-mother-
Mimi said…
JL, it was me who said I used d to like Queen Letizia but after watching the video of her yanking her daughters ear and doing all that crazy shit in the church and the dumb idiot husband had to put her in check but it was too late because she had already created a spectacle.....that was crazy! SHE is crazy!
SwampWoman said…
Oooh, Abbyh, that sounds delicious! Sorry, Mimi, just got back from the beach. It was so very lovely outside that I stayed out till way past dark.



Mimi said…
No problem Swamp Woman, I’ve got it! Sounds like a wonderful outing, hope you had a great time.
Jdubya said…
I wish people would quit quoting Danja Zone like it is truth vs unknown, typical gossip.
Unknown said…
So according to Tatler, 55% of the public think that Meghan Marke is good for the monarchy (whatever that means).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7614701/Meghan-Markle-poll-reveals-55-public-think-good-Royal-Family.html?offset=102&max=100&jumpTo=comment-476868613

But something seems off here. Am I reading this polling currently? So only 54% of those polled expressed an opinion, and of those only 55% responded positively towards Meghan? I believe I'm right in saying that a 'decline to answer' is usually weighed as a negative in polls. The picture seems decidedly less approving to Markle when the numbers are understood in the correct context...
Jdubya said…
Just watched the video and man oh man, she did diss Harry. His expression during her entire ramble was just so 'disengaged'. and then she says that and laughs !!! Brutal.
JL said…
@JDubya no one said Danja Zone is truth. It’s all gossip and speculation like everything else that is done here.
Ashley does state that she has sources and quotes them, but her videos could be just as pie in the sky as anything else like the myth that black women love Meghan.
The fact that she quoted people who heard Harry as having said it out loud was what was of interest.
Girl with a Hat said…
I wish people would stop telling us to stop quoting from the Danja Zone. :-)
JL said…
@Mimi the pacing back and forth as she built up her rage and to block the camera was weird. What could be the problem with the long suffering Queen Sofia? (Second cousin to Prince Charles via Prince Philip.) That video was a huge scandal in Spain and since then the Spanish royal family has worked overtime to make the two women seem friendly and it is reported that all is well.

Letizia has had a similar bad rap as Meghan, but she is no where near MeMe’s sociopathy.
Mimi said…
JL, wasn’t that video crazy? I feel so sorry for those two girls. Wasn’t it the next day, or very soon after, that she was shown out in public with the mother-in-law she had disrespected in the most horrible way, acting like everything was just fine? Everything was hunky dory? Goes to show what Royalty will do to keep up their image.
Unknown said…
@Charade Thank you for your reply. I'm from a Commonwealth country so I understand alot about the monarchy and BRF, the queen is my queen! I perhaps should have worded my question differently.

Knowing Meghan's background, as much as we do, and entering into such a well known institution and family, why wouldn't she want to fit in, become a well liked member and still have the global exposure for her causes?

Do you think it's narcissism, or a big payday, or the limelight and fame or as some have suggested, to bring down the monarchy? Tbh, there's not much higher on the ladder she can go except to bag a billionaire. She's getting a little too long in the tooth for Hollywood fame and she don't have an original thought in her head to become a respected global humanitarian, not to mention she strikes me as rather lazy, swoop in, read speech, take credit, swoop out. How hard is it to regurgitate your speech for the umpteenth time?

So, if you were Meghan, what would possibly motivate you to do what she’s been doing for the past 2 yrs, everything she does seems to be crafted, on purpose, to be as divisive as she can with the BRF and the public!
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Sandie said…
Yep, the Daily Mail and Telegraph headlines are misinterpreting stats to give MM positive press and thus influence the public.

'The survey suggests 55 per cent of adults think she has been good for the monarchy while 45 per cent disagree.

However, only 54 per cent of respondents expressed an opinion on the question.' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/26/tatler-survey-finds-meghan-markle-good-royal-family/

So, 29.7% of those participating in the survey think she is good for the monarchy, 46% declined to express an opinion, and 24.3% do not think she is good for the monarchy. She does not have a high approval rating.

Unfortunately, there is not enough information on the rest of the questions to unscramble the stats.
Sandie said…
It seems that the Tatler poll was done in early September, before the documentary and blow-back from that. MM is not popular!
lizzie said…
@Misty, I know your question wasn't addressed to me but I'll chime in. I honestly think Meghan doesn't necessarily have a "long game" in the usual way.

Her background suggests she has often jumped from man to man. I think from the beginning, life with Harry hasn't been what she thought it would be based on their time spent dating in a long-distance way. After all, their 3rd date was spent in Botswana! And there were rumors he took her to Norway to see the Northern Lights.

I think she wants either a big payoff OR more freedom to be a "global star" she believes herself to be. That means less expectation she'll have to do "boring & stuffy crap" the BRF does. No charity shop openings and factory appearances, and certainly no tramping around in muddy boots at Balmoral!

I think she hates being compared to Kate (or to any woman.) I also don't think she realizes she's a bit "long in the tooth" in some ways. But even if she does, with a big payoff I think she thinks she can live a life of celebrity, receiving adulation and attracting men whenever she wants. After all, she's not looking for a meaningful "normal" relationship with a man.

For many of us, the BRF might be "the top." But the things that I'd find amazing--the history, the castles/art/surroundings, the overwhelming respect for the Queen, the proximity to future Kings and Queen consorts-- may not appeal to Meghan and in fact, may repel her because it's not all about her.
Ava C said…
I guess publicly insulting Harry is a sign Meghan has moved to the next stage with him. If so, I think she could be caught out as no matter how skilled she is at gaslighting him, he has spent his entire life as a royal. A very senior royal until recently. No one will have treated him this way before. You can't over-emphasise the importance of this. He may be stunned, but he's not finished. Like that Arkansas hunter item in the news yesterday. Harry's the deer.
Longview said…

Re publicly insulting Harry...

I also notice MM didn't use Harry's name, or his title. She talked about "he", and "him". Now he doesn't even warrant a name, despite being him being her husband, her superior in rank (a born royal) and someone who she knows is generally struggling with his mental health and "not ok".

What a piece of work. She has no manners, no compassion, and no kindness.

Mimi said…
Let me ask....what the hell did she mean by that remark????
Mimi said…
Saw a a picture of her on pinterest and it showed a big bald spot between her nasty strands of hair in her face and the rest that is pulled back.
50 and counting said…
The Queen of Spain wore the exact same skirt the day before the Duchess. There really should be a who wore it better picture set of it (Spain 1 - UK 0)

The Twitterites say that by Archie is "King" because babes are the "King" of the household!!!! Not in any houses that I've entered. Queen is an name! Look at Queen Latifah! Anyone that thinks they wish ill on the Cambridge family are nuts!!! They don't have a mean bone in their bodies!
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Ava C said…
Another highly critical opinion piece on H&M:

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1195864/Meghan-markle-prince-harry-itv-documentary-Africa-the-queen-royal-news

At first I typed 'M&H'. Never done that before. Our subconscious minds move fast. Probably a reflection of Meghan's behaviour this week.

This piece only runs through the same criticisms as all the others. I think folk are getting jaded now. It's hard to remain in a state of high indignation when the BRF does nothing day after day. DM comment numbers have built far more slowly this week, and not to such heights, even though Meghan has failed to turn a new leaf (apparent clothing economies are failing to make traction so they can't be the reason). Even Samantha's return, though largely welcomed, was slow to build comments. Perhaps this is good news. Meghan's defenders are as indiscriminate as she is as attention is only assessed by volume. Indifference may pierce their armour when all else has failed.


CatEyes said…
@Ava I think you have a good point about indifference....now Meghan is becoming "Pale, Fail and Stale".
KnitWit said…
Mimi said: Charade, good obs. What would you call the leg crossing where she was on
that panel wearing a super short dress that showed her nether regions to the audience?

The Flycatcher?
The Honeytrap?
Mimi said…
Kniit Wit, HILARIOUS!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Nelo said…
This is the link to the correct person to. The one daily mail published is wrong.. This is the correct one. Tatler – Royals Poll – October 2019 « ComRes
Piroska said…
Ava and Mimi Tried to do this a few hours ago but problems with internet connection. Charles income is all from Duchy of Cornwall assets and he uses this for his charities and to pay the private expenses of himself his 2 sons and their wives. I believe that he divides £4million between the sons with William a larger share than his brother. All of them receive some monies from the Sovereign Grant to pay for expenses for official engagements. Any increase in Charles income would come from Duchy of Cornwall. The Sovereign Grant was increased but this was to pay for the renovations to Buckingham Palace. It is possible that after the excessive expenditure on the maternity wardrobe Charles cut funding but considering the spend on clothes and the amount of jewellery she has accumulated is it possible that the IRS a body which regards gifts etc taxable has presented here with a very large bill? New to comments although have followed you for a few weeks now
Discussing female empowerment and gender equality all the while wearing a cleavage enhancing cashmere sweater and f*** me shoes. I am not suggesting that she goes full Andrea Dworkin, but all the other women and girls were appropriately attired.

And why can't she address a real issue affecting girls and female empowerment? Something like female genital mutilation, cases of which are rising in the UK and requiring treatment in the NHS.
NeutralObserver said…
@Mischi, @charade, Hats off to both of you for working in male dominated fields. Both of you make great observations & I enjoy your posts. @charade, yes, I've thought all along that Megs' skeevy machinations are just standard entertainment/Hollywood self promotion moves that are perfectly normal in her former profession.

If you're in male-dominated fields, you're probably in areas where the renumeration is better than average, so very competitive, whether you're male or female. Yes, every female alive has been exasperated at times by male condescension, but it might make you feel a little better if you recognize that men are just as ruthless & undermining to one another in a competitive workplace. You're probably so busy pulling knives out of your own backs that you don't have the energy to deal with what your male colleagues are going through. Yes, even sophisticated workplaces in fields like banking & law, for example, can develop a sort of 'gang' mentality, where people form protective alliances, & pick on selected victims very subtly. Professional polish can mask a world of sins. If it makes you feel any better, the men you work with are probably no less miserable at times than you are. There are also situations where women are just as undermining of one another as any man is. When everyone from the top down is under pressure to produce, it's hard to have a stressless workplace.

One of the reasons you might be so irritated by Markle is that she's worked in a male dominated dysfunctional field as well, but she's resorted to a lot of stuff you would never dream of doing! I think any actor has to be pretty thick skinned, but some manage to remain at least superficially likable. Megs doesn't seem to be able to do that. The fact that she did a huge passive-aggressive rage number on Harry at their event yesterday is a big red flag that that relationship is toxic. If she's like that in public, they're probably throwing things at each other in private. Hope this makes sense. Dashed off another rant, now must get busy!
Girl with a Hat said…
@Neutral observer! How very condescending of you to assume that I don't know the difference and can't judge how my male colleagues are being treated.I can assure you that the men who have bullied me would never, ever consider doing the same thing to a man because they would get punched out.

The mansplaining in one job was so bad that I started stuttering. Did my male colleagues mansplain their colleagues comments?

I think you need to trust that I am a good judge of my own experience.
Fedde said…
Nutty
Unfortunately, an attack on Duchess Meghan - even one that did not physically injure her - would have serious repercussions.

(...)

Secondly, it would be the font of endless conspiracy theories. Was the Royal Family behind the attack? Who gave the go-ahead - was it Charles? William?


Please, let's not give MM (or her PR) any ideas. Before you know it, they'll hire someone to fake an attack on her for exactly the results mentioned.
NeutralObserver said…
@Mischi, Yeah, my comment was condescending, & I'm sorry I offended you. I defer to your superior knowledge of workplaces where anyone, male or female would get punched out, & workplaces where women are very much in the minority. I was thinking of professions like banking, law, academia, advertising, where sexism is there, but much more subtle, & where everyone competes fiercely, whether against a male or a female colleague, but everyone pretends to get along. I figured that was the kind of industry you were in, & that was the kind of atmosphere you were talking about. I've never actually seen a fist fight in my life other than in movies & on tv! Pretty sheltered, huh?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Neutral observer, what makes you think that I am not in banking?

I was actually hit by a female colleague at a job. No one believed me because I am 6 feet tall and she was petite. My co-workers actually made fun of me, by approaching me and asking if that was "hitting"?

They made fun of me until that female colleague started hitting them. Then, they were all jumpy and worried about her coming back to kill us all after she got fired?

Or how about department lunches where everyone is invited except for me? Is that competitive behaviour as well?

Or all the managers in the company discussing me at their manager meetings, although I didn't do anything and stayed below the radar (as much as someone who is my height could)?

Or how about no one in the office talking to me, not giving me a ride to office lunches, and blaming me for everything that went wrong?

Or complaining about my behaviour to my manager and having him reprimand me without asking me my side of the story?

Or installing spying software on my computer?

Is that all collegial competitivity?

So please just don't talk about anything you know nothing about.
CookieShark said…
Did any of the other guests at the event from this past week also do the "Awards Show" entrance like MM? Just wondering.

I wish when she was being interviewed and she whined about what was being printed the interviewer had said "I thought you don't read any press on you, that is all just noise" (to use her words).

I agree with Misty's assessment that MM did NOT want Harry at the roundtable yesterday and resented it. She spoke of him "crashing the party" and insulted his past work in front of the roundtable, then laughed about it.

This is the same as publicly regifting the Invictus onesie. There are people who are just clueless, but she appears at times to have a truly malicious, mean-spirited streak.
CatEyes said…
@Mischi I was in a male-dominated field (a lot of Engineers in the Environmental field) and for the longest time the only professional (am a Scientist) female. I experienced many of the things you cited' and it is hard to believe but it happens, unfortunately.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Cat Eyes. It's amazing and the worst part of it is that other women think that we "just can't take a joke" or "we don't understand male competitiveness".

I forgot to say that when I was in university, there was a fellow student who followed me around and basically stalked me. He told everyone that I was his girlfriend. When we graduated and he couldn't follow me around anymore, he told all of our classmates that I had dumped him because I didn't need him anymore. He got the best marks in the entire class. I was lower down, but still had good marks. Everyone believed him,so instead of having a network of classmates that could help me in my career, I am considered toxic and everyone avoids me.

So Neutral Observer, you really shouldn't talk out of turn. You have NO F*CKING IDEA what I have to do to make a living.
abbyh said…

A couple of things:

1) That survey. You know, they asked adults and that was not specified to age break down.

I think that because her target age group is most likely to have only a mobile, they would be least likely to questioned.

2) There are people who are just clueless, but she appears at times to have a truly malicious, mean-spirited streak.

Do you remember that at some horse event she, Kate and I want to say Camilla, someone fell off their horse. The later two were photographed showing signs of worry. Someone else was more laughing or smirking or something not showing concern.

Possible alleged bullying.
There is a difference between criticism and racism just as there is a difference between claiming bullying and speaking truth.

What I would like to know is if this is directed out of, say our usual suspect, how would it play out legally in terms of where the court would be?

Could charges be brought in England instead of the States? How would potentially different laws applied work out legally I wonder?

How would the Palace handle it as this would be charges against a member of the BRF?

If Samantha had been controlled before by NDAs, speaking now would mean that the NDA is up in the air so ... could there be something that might be useful to assorted members of the BRF or that M would not want to be out there and that if Samantha could be controlled even temporarily by this legally, actually assorted messages might come out which could really be damaging? sometimes you don't kick that fire ant hill

Just a side note about male dominated industries. I have spent most of my working life in them and other than getting fired because I refused an affair with my boss, I don't really care to get into a whole lot of this or that about it. It's work and I try to leave work at work. I blur over that the way when the comments take a turn weaving into politics or some other topic people might not agree about. I blur over most of the comments which I don't care about and pick up with it settles.

I just don't want the blog to be shut down over this kind of not getting along.



SarcasticBimbo said…
In those pics of them sitting side by side with her legs crossed, did anyone else pick up on the fact that, in one of those shots, the heel of her shoe was resting on the toe of his, as if to say she has him pegged down or is trying to peg him down?
Unknown said…
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Susie Q said…
Carter might show up at Habitat events, but I understand he doesn't stick around, just photo ops. HRC is ugly to SS & being on ner detail is considered punishment. One agent tells yhe story of being assigned to the WH detail & he's bought a new suit so he'd look nice. That bitch stopped him in the hallway, looked him up & down & told him to buy a suit that didn't look off the rack.
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