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Some thoughts on security, and why Meghan should probably take it more seriously

Although I'm no fan of Meghan Markle, I've never wished that any physical harm would come to her. If I ruled the world, she'd have a long and uneventful life presenting low-cost jewelry on a home shopping network at 3am.

But it's a violent world we live in, and the Royal Family's own history is bloody. Although a major member of the family has not been seriously injured since 1979, when an IRA bomb blew up Philip's and Charles' mentor Louis Mountbatten, the threats are constant. (Princess Anne also fought off a kidnapping attempt in 1974).

All members of the Royal Family, from the Queen to Prince George, have been targeted by terrorists, and the Sussexes were the target of violent images by a racist extremist shortly after their wedding.

Unfortunately, Meghan doesn't seem to take her own security very seriously.


The long walk at Royal Albert Hall

Earlier this week, Duchess Megan took a long, slow walk through an arena-size crowd at Royal Albert Hall. 

The crowd had been expecting her - a security threat in itself. 

And although audience members were presumably metal screened and bag checked before entering, there were no barriers to keep them away from Meg as she took her spotlight stroll from the Royal Albert Hall's loggia, down through the stalls and the floor seating, and finally to the stage. 

Fortunately, there was no one with a plastic knife - or even an unwieldy bear hug - leaping out to assault the Duchess, who was glowing with the attention received during her extended entrance. 

Meghan's Royal Protection Officers must have been having hissy fits. 


Meg's bodyguard quit in January

This isn't the first time Meg's casual attitude towards security has been in the news. 

In January, her female bodyguard quit, reportedly for personal reasons, although she was the third person on Meghan's staff to quit in a very short period. At the time, a report in the Daily Telegraph (quoted in the paywall-free Daily Mirror) said:


Unlike someone who has grown up in the royal family and has been used to having close protection from an early age, it can be constraining. 
Even though she was a famous actress, she could still do what she wanted in the way of getting around freely. 
But in her current role she can’t go anywhere without her protection team, and that’s a massive constraining force on an individual like her.

And in February 2019 a post on the question-and-answer site Quora - since deleted - said 


I know someone who worked security recently for a visit to a city in the North West of England. 
He said that Meghan was rude and made life difficult for the security team that day. 
For their safety Harry and Meghan were asked to walk down one side of the rails and then up the other side. Harry was more than happy to oblige. 
Meghan didn't listen. She was crossing from one side to the other saying hello to people. Smiling and stopping to speak to her fans. 
Security asked her again and again, please stay on one side so we can protect you properly. Her response was, I will walk where I like.


Professional security people prefer experienced clients

Professional security people find it easiest to guard people who are experienced being protected and who appreciate it. 

Donald Trump, for all his faults, is reportedly popular with his Secret Service team; he's had security around him since his construction career took off 1980s, so he respects their advice and follows it. He even thanked them in his election-night speech.

(Jimmy Carter, a relative nobody before taking office, was reportedly the worst President to guard; he was rude and treated the security team like servants.)


The pressure of a walkabout

Royal Protection officers are very highly trained, and their duties involve putting their lives on the line for their Royal charges.

One ex-RPO, who now runs a private security service, told the Daily Express:


The most pressured part of a protection officer's role is a walkabout with the Royal Family. 
They are very much principals of the people and they want to go to speak to the public and the public wants to speak to them. 
It may only last for 15 to 20 minutes but it's mentally draining. You'll go back into the safety of a vehicle or a building afterwards and think, 'That was hard.' 
You're constantly checking out people in the crowd.
You're looking at hands, you're looking at eye contact, you're looking at dress - that's very relevant at a time like this when we are dealing with suicide bomber-type scenarios. Why has someone got a very heavy winter coat on on a lovely summer's day?
There was always the potential that something could happen and you were always thinking, 'What if?' What if I open the door now and we have an IED [improvised explosive device] go off? What if I open the door now and we take shots? What if I open the door now and the principal falls out of the car because we haven't parked in the right place and they step into a pot-hole? What if? What if? What if? 

How much more exhausting that job must be when the person you are supposedly protecting will not co-operate.


Not the highest-value target

Meg is not one of the highest-value targets in the Royal Family - that would be Charles, William, George, or the Queen herself.

But if you're a bad guy (or bad gal) and can't get to a high-value target, you go to easiest target available, which is why bad people stage attacks at Christmas markets and Ariana Grande concerts. 

Or you focus on Duchess Meghan, who is walking through a large audience with no protection in order to squeeze out every last bit of attention for herself. 


The aftermath

Unfortunately, an attack on Duchess Meghan - even one that did not physically injure her - would have serious repercussions. 

First of all, it would create an image that Meghan is a martyr - just as Harry sees his mother. 

And there would be suggestions that the cause of the attack was negative articles about Meghan in the tabloid press. 

What would that mean for press freedom, or freedom of speech in general?

Secondly, it would be the font of endless conspiracy theories. Was the Royal Family behind the attack? Who gave the go-ahead - was it Charles? William?

Thirdly, it could be a source of tension between the US and UK. 

If the incident took place in the the UK, American law enforcement officials would presumably have to be involved in the investigation because Meghan is a US citizen. Should it take place in the US, the UK security services would have to be involved because Meg is part of the British Royal Family. 

If it took place in a third country - Canada? Mexico? Botswana? - things would get even more complicated. 


The best approach

The easiest and best approach would be for Meghan to simply listen to her security experts and keep herself safe, so she can live a long, healthy, obscure life selling tacky jewelry to insomniacs. 

But listening to good advice has never been Meghan's strength. 

Comments

abbyh said…
Sadly this is spot on - every detail.
Girl with a Hat said…
too many people resort to violence at the slightest provocation.

I have no evil intent towards her or Harry, and frankly I would relish seeing her peddling trinkets and potions on the Shopping Network. At least it would make it interesting when I am forced to watch with my mother.
Nutty Flavor said…
I think jewelry sales are roughly her level of talent. She could use a lot of her tried-and-true expressions, like holding her hand to her heart with joy when presented with a particularly flashy piece.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Nutty, you are funny.

It's the ceramic knives which are dangerous. A lot of people have ceramic knives at home, but they add metal particles into the mix so that they can be detected by security equipment. Military type ceramic knives don't have that added in. In the Paris attack where a policeman was involved, that was the instrument he used to attack his co-workers.

I am appalled that she is so difficult with her security team. And, the restraint they must show towards such a difficult person. I, for one, would have parked in a puddle of water so she would be forced to tread through it.

How can Harry tolerate such a horrible, disgusting person? Everything I read about her makes me think less and less of her, and I didn't think that was possible. It's more than narcissistic personality disorder. There is definitely some borderline personality disorder aspect to her. They really are impossible to live with.
The Cat's Meow said…
I am reminded about the idea that you should watch how people treat their lowest-class employees (i.e. secretaries) to see how they really are. Though of course being an RPO is totally different (danger and potentially self-sacrifice) I am sure that if one takes them for granted you could also view them as one of the "little people." HRC also supposedly treats them like garbage, though I have to say, I am surprised to hear that Jimmy Carter does as well.

It's about character and respect, both of which MM seems to lack.
The Cat's Meow said…
Also fyi, an anti-MM opinion published in the States:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/save-the-tears-meghan-markle/
abbyh said…
Nutty, snicker snicker. I can visualize it (sadly).

Agreed that something bad happening would ensure her rock star narrative.

The only way out would be the video of her behaving badly (as in tirade, tossing china, politically incorrect labels). It would help if she were caught in major lies as once you caught in a lie, anything coming out of your mouth becomes suspect after public release. Then a porn video release followed by the release of unsavory financial dealings which leads to multiple IRS audits.

Even if you have done nothing wrong with the IRS, gathering all the information, dealing with the merely idea of this hanging over your head even if you are not present can be stressful. Especially if you may not have always done things (dotted i's, crossed t's) in the distant past (possible but I have no direct knowledge). A cousin had lived overseas and thought the taxes were being filed and paid. Nope. When they returned to the States, the IRS agents showed up with guns (unannounced) to have a little chat.
Ilona said…
Excellent post, Nutty!!! Well said!!!

What a frightful individual she is!

Girl with a Hat said…
@Ilona, @nutty. Yes, thank you for pointing that Nutty did an excellent job. She must have spent a lot of time researching as well. She brought up some stuff I had never heard. This gives me more insight into her, and she is definitely borderline. I feel sorry for her poor father and what he had to put up with.
PaulaMP said…
I'm surprised to hear that about Jimmy Carter. At age 95 he still shows up to help build Habitat for Humanity houses. As for Meg, I'm sure the first thing they would like is for her to stop hugging total strangers, talk about the perfect opportunity to do something and with that full body thing she does it wouldn't immediately be obvious
Nutty. I hav been looking forward to this. Love the image of her hawking cheap baubles - maybe some of the ones for sale on Meghan's Mirror.

It doesn't surprise me that she isn't listening to advice - that would be a first.
If something awful did happen, it would be elevate her to martyr status. If she was younger, she could instantly join the ranks of the 27 Club. Mind you, all of them had achieved something of merit so maybe not.
lizzie said…
For those who were surprised by Nutty's mention of Carter and the secret service, here's a link
https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/332143/3
Humor Me said…
@abbyh - MM has been caught in lies: the biggest lie so far is that she had to work her way through college to pay for her education, when her father paid for it, and says he has the proof. i find it very telling that the majority of the Markle clan has been silenced. Many posters have remarked that Samantha was right about her sister as more and more of MM's behaviors come to light. I sense a payoff on the Markle siblings; I have not idea what is going on with Dear Dad - all I see is a very sad situation from the get-go. Harry shares some blame in that fiasco.

Yes, the "long walk" was a security nightmare, but it was what the Diva deemed necessary to enhance her presence in service to (herself).....the Queen.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBeem9gCCkw

Ashlee at Danja Zone has some interesting info. Apparently, Meghan has Harry call her every 45 minutes when they aren't together, amongst other interesting tidbits.

It really is as bad as they say about Harry. He is whipped.
Liver Bird said…
I remember something similar in that tacky 'baby shower' in New York where she seemed to be almost running away from her security people. Not only is it potentially dangerous, it's disrespectful to the highly trained RPOs AND to the British people who pay for them - every penny of it.

But to continue our previous discussion... I'm still quite gobsmacked at how catastrophically stupid the whole 'documentary' thing was. Now Prince Charles has supposedly used his 'sources' to complain about them in the media. She's alienated the entire royal family - mind you she probably did that long ago but they felt obliged to keep quiet - until now. And even parts of the American media which was previously grovelling over her are turning against her. And no sign of all her 'celeb' friends running to their rescue either.

Did these two seriously think they could take on the royal family in public and get away with it? Are they that arrogant? Seems so.

Girl with a Hat said…
Ashlee at Danja Zone says that Charles is devastated by Meghan's behaviour. He thought they had a close relationship but he now realises that he was being played.
QueenWhitby said…
The whole situation has taken a decidedly sinister turn imo. The Sussex parallel to the Diana situation is there but not in the ways they spin it - courting and then vilifying the press, eschewing security, calling papers directly with scoops, changing numbers without notice .... fanning the publicity fire Markle fashion is very dangerous and the Palace knows it - history could repeat itself and just one Mark Chapman out there could see it to it’s fruition.

Then you have her sugars openly discussing the demise of the Cambridges and the Sussexes being monarchs on twitter. This has been on the periphery to me, I’ve really only payed attention in the last week and it’s beyond appalling. Why is twitter not shutting this rhetoric down? Why is Meghan herself not calling out and disassociating herself from that dialogue? She doxed those whose only crime was to criticize her, does she have no concern for “the family she never had” and their safety? This is not KIND and it’s being done on her behalf!

Let’s not forget Prince Charles was also shot at, thankfully with blanks but it isn’t a stretch to imagine something terrible could happen. I have started to become quite concerned regarding the safety of all, not just MM.
IEschew said…
Nutty, you provide excellent, gratis advice...if only the RF would take it. I’d hire you in a second if I were in the public eye.

I am at a loss. The MM PR today seems like more setting us up for a change. I think the latest PH news—that his post-Diana anguish is renewed—is a MM plant. I believe she would set him up as the reason the marriage failed. He is no longer who she fell in love with, so sad, see yins later.

But the IRS piece is the biggie as she considers her options. The IRS doesn’t play. As many have said, it’s how Mafiosos were taken down, and she’s already fought them once and lost. No PR can pay them off, so I don’t understand how MM can come home again if she has been merching via Meghan’s Mirror and goodness knows what else. Can we can get some expert analysis from anyone on this front? I think it is the most likely way she will encounter legal trouble, much as I love the treason line of thinking and wish the RF would take her to task.
Jen said…
@QueenWhitby
Then you have her sugars openly discussing the demise of the Cambridges and the Sussexes being monarchs on twitter.

I think that is disturbing on SO many levels. These are actual people talking about the death of not only William and Kate, but three CHILDREN! I am just beyond horrified that anyone would wish for that.

@Nutty
I can vouch for your Trump comment. I know a few agents on his detail and they love him. Say he's easy to get along with and he's considerate. They paint a very different picture of him then the media, that's for sure. They say this family has been the easiest to work with so far.
Hikari said…
All the laurels to Nutty for this observation, which echoes my own:

"Although I'm no fan of Meghan Markle, I've never wished that any physical harm would come to her. If I ruled the world, she'd have a long and uneventful life presenting low-cost jewelry on a home shopping network at 3am."

Thank you for a much-needed laugh this morning! Of course our Meg would never be satisfied with such a gig. Not nearly enough people watching her at 3AM.

********

As the Murketroid Saga has unfolded over these almost-two years, going from initially hopeful to disappointing to mystifying to bad to worse, it is increasingly evident that we are going to be stuck with the Markle for years and years to come. Even if she eventually separates herself from the Royal Family, we will never be rid of her entirely.

As Nutty points out, a fatal accident for our Meggy, or even passing away from natural causes will render her into that creation of her dearest wish: Saint Diana 2.0, Forever Glamorous Martyr. At this point, anything that happens to her, even as a product of her own willfully reckless behavior will be laid at the feet of the 'hounding media' and the 'heartless BRF' who failed to protect her.

I believe that the world would be a better place if Meghan Markle had never been born. She is the anti-George Bailey from IAWL. Her birth family would have been better off, all the friends she's ghosted, partners she's betrayed and dumped, friends she's used, professional colleagues she has bailed out on. I can't think of a single person in any facet of her life on either side of the Atlantic who has benefited from association with her, least of all, Harry. Unfortunately for everyone, she is here and not going away anytime soon. There will be no quiet post-RF retirement for her. What interesting times we live in.

Trying to look at the mess she and Harry have made objectively . . as much as I recoil from her and everything she stands for, I still don't think the transgressions of the Harkles reach to the level of the Abdication and and the machinations by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor to collude with Hitler in taking down Britain during the war. If we remove the media frenzy surrounding the DumbA$$ pair, all the showcased whining, self-pity, bad manners and poor dressing . . they really are minor figures drunk on their own inflated importance. And they are only inflated because the media will not desist in covering them.

Hikari said…
The two issues that are most concerning: the possible trafficking of an innocent baby to interfere fraudulently with the line of succession is both potentially criminal and treasonous. The spending on Frogmore Cottage, the Empty House where no one lives, is the other huge issue, but that may or may not be the Harkles' doing. In the context of these two major items, (and a third--the shady Sussex Foundation)--whether Megs styles her wigs neatly or wears too much bronzer or gets plastic surgery or recycles unflattering pregnancy outfits and forgoes stockings and sucks up to Hollywood celebrities . . is just so much noise. An intentional distraction, I believe, to take focus off those three really major incendiary items. A tried and true tactic. Make so much noise over HERE--bad fashion! Crocodile tears! Staged-managed pics and speeches! Provocative Instagram posts! so that over THERE (Archie, FrogCott, Suxsit monies) people get distracted from taking their eyes off the ball.

Harry needs serious intervention, that much is clear. If they both bugger off to Malibu and the Land of Wokeness and spa-like rehab facilities, he might feel more comfortable admitting himself for treatment. It's the trendy Hollywood celeb thing to do. Then he can arrange a frothy sit-down with Oprah to talk about his rehab journey for a hefty remuneration.

As for the Duchess of Wokeness, she's like a cockroach. She will survive no matter what. And if she doesn't, she'll get a new version of Candle in the Wind written just for her, cementing her legacy forever as one of the most regrettable chapters in BRF history. An utterly worthless human being.

She thinks she's like Diana. More like Amy Winehouse. Who I don't think of as a worthless human being--she wrote some good songs and has people who loved her and mourn her. Who would legitimately mourn Megsie? I think legions of her victims would rejoice, rather. But the Amy Winehouse comparison is apt for the personal style which MM thinks is suitable as a Duchess of the UK.
This women sees herself as intelligent. No one with an ounce of intelligence, would wilfully ignore professional security advice; it’s their job to keep you safe. Diana dispensed of her RPO and it cost her, her life (not that Harry will ever accept that). If she had kept them, they would have supplied the car, or in the very least would have been driving the car, not a drunk driver which she had instead.

Meghan’s arrogance beggars belief, and I cannot understand why Harry didn’t pull her aside and explain that it was for her sole benefit and safety. If God forbid anything happened to Meghan, Harry would be the first to blame everyone else, apart from his own wife’s arrogance and stupidity.
The Cat's Meow said…
@Jen

Very interesting comment re: Trump and his agents. I believe it...I think that "persona" he has created is likely very different than how he often is on a personal level. He obviously also identifies with the "blue collar" people, and thus treats them with respect. The man still does love his chaos tho ;)
d.c. said…
Wow, @Lizzie, thanks for that link in Prez Carter’s treatment of his security detail. And, of course, thanks @Nutty for blogging about it to start with. It’s certainly not in-keeping with his public persona/image. I’m disappointed, but would rather know the truth.

Posting about Carter’s mistreatment of his security detail, and Trump’s contrasting respect of them, helps further my (and everyone else’s, I imagine) trust in you and your fairness of reporting,@Nutty. The sugars can’t claim you’re mean or biased when you’re so impartial in what you choose to write.

So, kudos to you, @Nutty, for the clear-eyed journalism. (even if I sometimes wished the truth matched my confirmation bias)
Lurking said…
Nutty, you hit the nail on the head. Mike Rowe has said he got his job on QVC because he could talk non-stop. Smeg would be a perfect candidate for late night jewelry sales... or off brand kitchen appliances and tchotchkes. She may not be qualified for the Jewelry Network, as they all have "degrees" from the Gemological Institute of America.
KitKatKisses said…
Mischi wrote: "Ashlee at Danja Zone has some interesting info. Apparently, Meghan has Harry call her every 45 minutes when they aren't together, amongst other interesting tidbits."

This is horrifying. It's exactly like those classic examples of the abused wife, who can't go out with friends, has to call in every hour, doesn't have any money of her own. There are even psychological thrillers about this sort of thing. Sorry, I'm not trying to make light of this. I just can't believe it could happen to someone who is a British Prince. But yes we all have felt something is wrong when we see her arm on his back, when we hear he is alienated from family and friends, and when we see how miserable he looks. Or as another possibility, Megs worries he is suicidal and wants to keep hearing from him.

Regarding Prince Charles finally figuring out he was played, better late than never, Chaz. Butnsomw if us could have told you this 3 years ago.

Good info in this post, Nutty!
HappyDays said…
Nutty: You’re absolutely right that if Meghan was attacked and Injured or worse, she would be enshrined as a martyr against intolerance. I would never want anyone to harm her.

I think she will do enough damage by herself that karma will take care of her in time, either in this life or the next when we all have to answer for our good and bad deeds.

. I agree with one of the comments that you can tell a person’s true nature by how they treat people of less status when they aren’t being nice for image purposes. During and after their Australia trip, there were Twitter posts from family and friends of staff at the places they stayed and lower-level government employees Meghan came in contact with. The reports all said she was rude, nasty, and extremely foul-mouthed and that Harry spent a considerable amount of time following behind her tirades to apologize for her behavior. She was reportedly nice to hotel staff who were good looking and rude to people who did not meet her standards for being handsome or beautiful. Perhaps they just couldn’t afford or find a member of the opposite sex to pay for plastic surgery, $30K of porcelain dental veneers and endless hair-straightening treatments, Botox and fillers.

Meghan was also known to be rude to restaurant service workers in Toronto when she lived there, including staff at some of Cory’s establishments, pulling the ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ line of crap on them.

Another woman who worked in the office building Suits used for some of its shots said all the cast members were friendly, nice people to those who worked in the building with the exception of Meghan, who was a snob who couldn’t be bothered.

One report I read from a woman who worked in craft services (food) on the Suits set said Meghan was nice when they originally met, because Meghan initially thought she was someone important. But after Meghan realized she wasn’t a big shot, she didn’t get the time of day from Meghan and was treated as if she did not exist.

Yes, Meghan reportedly sent hot drinks out to some security people when she moved into KP, but she was new and wanted to make Harry think she was kind and thoughtful. I don’t believe anything ‘nice’ Meghan does is done out of a kind heart, but rather as a calculated move to enhance her image in some fashion. Narcissists are not kind purely for the sake of kindness. The same for the banana bread she allegedly made for the farmers on the Australia trip, and the flowers sent after the baby shower to the hospital. Meghan knew these gestures would find their way into the press or her PR people would make sure they did.

Why do you think so many Sussex staffers have quit? People tend to be loyal when they work for great bosses, even if they pay isn’t great or the working conditions are sometimes challenging as they likely are with royals due to the nature if just being a working royal. I know peopke who have worked for several US Presidents. They work ling hours and they pay is OK, but not fabulous., but they liked working for the President and First Lady, and it is an amazing experience, so they stay. Otherwise, they’ll move on as soon as possible.
Unknown said…
I'm with you all, I would rather she have a looooong life thinking about how she had it all and screwed it up. I absolutely would not want anything to happen to either Harry or Meghan b/c all eyes would then be on the BRF a la Diana. Not to mention that I don't wish death on anyone no matter if I like them or not.

I think it's time the BRF cut its losses. They don't need to "prepare" anyone, just cut them loose. Anyone with eyes knows it's not gonna last between the two and Harry will come crawling back, then they can get help for him. He's not gonna "wake" up no matter what anyone says until she's done with him.

I do think he loves his family and respects his queen but the sad thing is that if they leave and god forbid, something happens to his grandmother (god save the queen), when he wakes from this fog he's in, he will be in even worse shape knowing what he put his grandmother through in the last years of her immaculate reign.

I'm having a hard time believing that a happy, healthy young man, loved by his family, adored by the people could be turned into a sniveling, whiny, spiteful, angry, petulant man within 2 yrs of marriage and a new baby. Perhaps this is the real Harry we didn't know.

Also, what's up with the press? I get that the UK papers need to tread carefully with the Royals but what about the US papers? No US investigative journalist out there looking to make a name for himself? Something sure seems off to me.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Sorry Nutty. I have no sympathy towards her at all. If she fails to grasp seismic shifts in her life associated with becoming royal it is her problem - and those unfortunate enough to work with her. My only sympathy is reserved for people whose job is to make sure this fauxmanitarian is safe.
Unknown said…
From the MMTCD:

"My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humour and some style." Maya Angelou


Hmmm...where have I heard something similar lately????
@Queen Whitby, ‘Then you have her sugars openly discussing the demise of the Cambridges and the Sussexes being monarchs on twitter. This has been on the periphery to me.’

I find this extremely disturbing! Why aren’t they being shut down? I’m aghast that these are the type of fans who call and accuse people like us Nutties the most awful things, and yet they are wishing death on the future monarch and his family, so their Meghan can become Queen!
The Cat's Meow said…
ooooh @Misty, great catch!!!
@lurking. I have no idea who Mike Rowe is but the non-stop talking comment made me laugh. Deffo a Meg trait too. Listening to her droning on for hours would ensure even the most sleep-deprived insomniac nodded off.
Liver Bird said…
@Misty

"I'm having a hard time believing that a happy, healthy young man, loved by his family, adored by the people could be turned into a sniveling, whiny, spiteful, angry, petulant man within 2 yrs of marriage and a new baby. Perhaps this is the real Harry we didn't know."

I think it is. Meghan isn't so powerful that she can transform someone's personality. There has always been plenty of evidence that Harry is a spoiled, whiny brat, possibly with serious mental health issues. It's just that the palace did a very good job of turning around the image of the bratty prince playing naked poker in Las Vegas, to the fun, jovial Prince Charming devoted to his military charities and just looking for the right woman to settle down with.

Unfortunately for everyone concerned, Harry found the wrong woman.
JL said…
Very astute observation and analysis. Given that we are dealing with someone who is mentally ill, I have no doubt that the orgasmic joy she she’d have if someone made on attempt on her life—for all the reasons you state—makes her deliberately take risks. She is too narcissistic to believe that she might actually be harmed in any way.

The fam needs to get her off British soil ASAP.

Having to call the wife every 45 minutes sounds like the typical arrangement when a husband has cheated. He did disappear for 48 hours after her and Darren’s appearance at polo so this is probably his ounishment.
Unknown said…
With all the missiles she has been firing left,right and centre,and going big guns towards anything she wants, I would not be surprised if she has a black belt in karate and can deal viciously with anyone who confronts her.

@lurking. Sorry, I meant chronic insomniac. It is me who is sleep-deprived from spending far too much time here.
drchristna said…
What about the friends she left behind at every level of her life when she moved on to something better, what about the yachters she managed to not make happy. I agree, if she is not that smart to listen those that are paid to protect then she should have her royal status taken away. Who does this?
abbyh said…
I know that she has lied (repeatedly).

What I'm talking about is on the level of treason in great detail and clearly not joking around. Horrible kinds of things to innocent people.

That kind of thing would unify people who are on the fence about her with those already seeing the light and may begin to wake up the sugars that she is not who she appears to be.

Collective Gasp of horror.

I don't think those sugars thought that she should be queen completely up on their own. Or to let it go that far without clarity from some high up sugar says that on some level, someone must think it is acceptable in the sugar camp. I think what they say is scary. When I first started reading those comments on the DM, I thought: Is anyone tracking these people?

Mike Rowe is a guy who did the Dirty Jobs show and has now turned that into backing the idea that college is not some magic job guarantee so think about going into the trades. He has finanical backing to help people get scholarships. (and fwiw) I am rereading the Millionaire Mind books and they are clear that owning a trade business is a big help there. (also living below your means but that's not a topic with M).
abbyh said…
Please forgive me if someone has already posted this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7608849/Royal-family-strange-dont-support-one-claims-expert.html

One of the top 10 comments posted something about how they thought this was the family she never had. Nice touch.
Lurking said…
@Misty & LB


Harry has said no one knows the real him. Perhaps he's always been a spoiled petulant child prone to temper tantrums?

Monday: unable to get out of bed because the weight of the world's problems and being a royal is so hard

Tuesday: stronger than ever

Wednesday: Smeg+1 are unhappy and royal family never supported anyone


I think I have whiplash.
Nelo said…
Nutty, in an unrelated topic, H and Ms documentary which aired on the US drew in 3.3m views, higher than ITV which had 2.8 views. Does it mean they have a huge audience in US?
Liver Bird said…
"Nutty, in an unrelated topic, H and Ms documentary which aired on the US drew in 3.3m views, higher than ITV which had 2.8 views. Does it mean they have a huge audience in US?"

Now, I'm no maths genius, but a simple calculation would suggest precisely the opposite.

The population of America is approximately 5 times greater than that of Britain. Yet the 'documentary' only managed to garner very slightly higher viewing figures in the former than it it did in the latter. Bearing in mind that it was only the 5th highest rated programme on ITV that day, you can draw your own conclusions.
Jen said…
@Abbyh,

We all know the RF is strange...but they are a product of their many years of tradition and protocol. So it's now the responsibility of the RF to bolster up the duo? They don't praise them enough? Not everyone deserves praise. If you feel you need to be praised for the "good" deeds you are doing, then you are doing the deeds for the wrong reasons. The people who write this drivel seriously need to hand back the free trophy they got for last place, and learn what real journalism is.

Nutty Flavor said…
@Liver Bird, I agree that the ratings were not good; 3 million viewers was described as a "disappointing" return for a documentary that ran in April 2019 about the space programme.

It's also been my general experience that more American homes than British homes tend to let the TV run as background noise while they do chores, play video games, etc. (Let's face it - baseball, a very slow game, is made for this type of passive viewing.)

How many American eyeballs were actually focused on Meg and Harry and their problems is anybody's guess.

NeutralObserver said…
@Nelo, The Douglas Dynasty, hosted by 73-year old Diane Sawyer, & about 102 year old Kirk Douglas, his 75 year old son Michael, & Michael's 40 year old drug addiction battling son, Cameron, got 3.01 million viewers on Tuesday, the night before. So draw your own conclusions. Michael Douglas hasn't had a hit movie in years; the Harkles got married a little over a year ago. It is something of an apples & oranges situation, but it doesn't look like there's a groundswell of interest for the Harkles in the US at this time. I'm a bit surprised they didn't do better, after all the $$$ Megs has spent on pr, but maybe this means her shelf life has a limit. The World Series is getting tepid ratings, but drawing over 4 times the viewers the Harkles did. Bear in mind that the US has a population of almost 330 million.
Nelo said…
People is reporting that H and M are seeking the help of American lawyers and PR professionals outside the royal family which confirms Dan Wottons earlier report about SS. I read it on Lainey and as expected, she conveniently didn't post on the CNN story or the report calling them paranoid or Charles annoyance for overshadowing him because it doesn't fit her narrative. Lainey is a hypocrite. She conveniently reminds her readers that Dan Wooton is friends with the Cambridges press secretary and tells them to 'connect the dots'.
Jen said…

@Nutty, funny you should mention baseball...last night was game 2 of the baseball World Series. Game 1 was on Tuesday, and it garnered 12.2 million viewers and last night they had 11.8 million. I can tell you, the two teams in the series aren't very popular throughout the country, so it's really just Texas and DC/MD/VA people watching and they STILL did better than this documentary.

I think Bob Ross would garner more viewers....
Nutty Flavor said…
@Neutral Observer And isn't Catherine Zeta-Jones, who married into the Douglas Dynasty, currently selling bedsheets on a home shopping channel? Apparenly 3 million is precisely the sort of rating that can get you a home shopping gig.

@Nelo Lainey - and Celebitchy, for that matter - remind me of those political websites that carefully filter out all the information you don't want to hear and provide you with only the information that makes "your side" look good. It's not about informing people, it's about comforting them with reassurances that everything *you* believe is correct. I doubt many impartial people go to Lainey for news.

Since announcing Meg as their cover girl, The Tatler's Instagram is being overwhelmed with negative comments. I guess Sunshine Sachs didn't have that one on its duty roster for today.
JL said…
You have to be the US viewer numbers in context.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-wednesday-oct-23-2019/

A five rating with a 2 share is just plain bad. At 8 the World Series had a 2.9 rating with a 13 share.
It was the third worst of the night after Nancy Drew and Riverdale both on the CW (!!)

A bust. Think Iger is happy? Ha
JL said…
I wish there was an editing function.
Put the numbers in context
A point five rating (.5)

PS Since the change to accommodate more posters the point size on the font size on the iPhone is like 2 points
Somewhat off topic but apparently Kate was spotted in her local Sainsburys today. The children were with her to buy Halloween costumes... and she had a burly bodyguard nearby (unlike some).
Liver Bird said…
The Harkles' fans will probably say that the fact that the 'documentary' was already available on YouTube, and that the 'best' bits had been doing the rounds for about a week, explains the low viewing figures. Might be true to a point, but still. The Harkles should be at peak fame now - a 'succesful' tour, a new baby, loads of build-up for the silly 'documentary', yet still unimpressive viewing figures. I think this shows that they don't actually have that big an American fan-base, and that in the event of relocating there, they may well find that interest in them wanes quite quickly once the sheen or royalty wears off and they become just another pair of middleaged wannabes. All a bit pathetic.
Jen said…
@Disgusted, I totally want to see the Cambridge kids in costume!!
Nutty Flavor said…
Are you using Chrome on an iPhone, JL? I also have an iPhone, but just zoom right in with Chrome.

The idea wasn't so much to accommodate more posters, but to get rid of the problem of people (including me) typing out thoughtful responses and having them eaten by Blogger. The old format used to die after 200 posts as well.

We haven't tried Enty's plan yet, with the pop-up windows. That's an option.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Jen, I'm looking forward to seeing Louis in the upcoming family Christmas card. I don't think he's been seen since the Polo match in July.
Liver Bird said…
@ Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells (fab user name!)

Here's the thing about Kate and the Sainsbury's outing: there are no pictures of her and the kids in the media. None. Despite her security telling other shoppers not to take photos, apparantly a few did manage to do so. Yet you won't see these pics in the British press, because they have an agreement not to publish 'off-duty' shots of the royals, certainly not when the children are there. This is just one example of the working relationship the press and the royals have, and it works well for all concerned most of the time. The European or American press would have no such qualms. Yet it's the British press that are the problem? So much so - as all the SS 'leaks' to the media indicate - the poor Harkles have no choice but to relocate to America to escape it all? It's so very transparent!
@Jen. They are very cute children. Would take our minds off all this horror for a bit.
Himmy said…
H&M have nothing original to offer. They have no style and charm. Most people do not care this pair in US. MM is truly delusional if she thinks she could be a “star” here. The only thing people want to see is probably her sex tape and it is an onetime thing. Who wants to see sponge bob naked?
Sandie said…
Maybe the photographers captured a brief moment from various angles, but have a look at these pics of Meghan arriving at One Yong World 2019:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBD_en-gbZA782ZA782&biw=654&bih=655&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTwguQdDLrHUvCcABYAHnWvN_KNAA%3A1571939312347&sa=1&ei=8OOxXf3wFJih1fAPhLqtyA8&q=one+young+world+2019+meghan+markle&oq=one+young+world+2019+meghan+markle&gs_l=img.3...3683.8056..8434...0.0..0.411.5378.2-16j1j2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67j0j0i8i30j0i24j0i30.fis1KLqAwmc&ved=0ahUKEwj9qMiiurXlAhWYUBUIHQRdC_kQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

The RPO behind her is the same one who was at Wimbledon. He is looking down. Isn't that odd? Shouldn't he be looking around and scanning the crowd? Just a brief odd moment!

BTW, I know this is not the place to discuss tarot readings, but the good ones that have proved to be accurate predict a long life for both her and Harry (and the really good ones say the press tsunami has not hit yet, but winter is coming!).
NeutralObserver said…
@Nutty, Wow, I didn't know that about Catherine Z-Jones. She"s had a much bigger career than Megs, & the Douglas's are 'Hollywood royalty,' whatever that's worth. Goes to show how fortunes can change in Hollywood, & Megs should know that as well as anyone. The Home Shopping Channel or QVC would be perfect for Megs. Would she do this while married to Harry, or wait until after the divorce, I wonder?

@Disgusted, speaking of insomnia, I foolishly & uncharacteristically stayed up late last night watching a lame UK police drama called The Bay last night. (I'm an addict of series like Broadchurch, Line of Duty, Happy Valley, etc.) I do like the star, Morven Christie, ( I wanted her character to marry the James Norton character on Grantchester & live happily ever after.) She's a pleasant actress & from Dumbarten, Scotland. Why couldn't Harry have married someone like her? I suppose any decent actress would be able to access enough emotional truth to know that being a royal is not an easy gig, & Harry is no fairy tale prince. Not so Megs, who seems a bit delusional.
Lurking said…
Smeg's RPO deserves a medal for sticking it out this long. Wonder if he's getting combat pay.
hunter said…
For the people considering that a petulant self-centered Harry might be the guy he always was, I'd like to offer this:

Recently I was dating a 45-y/o good-looking wealthy man (making 2.5 million/yr) who acted like a goddamn 3-y/o when he didn't get his way. He was nasty to waitresses and strangers and staff on airplanes and at hotels.

He had no capacity for self-reflection or personal insight. No self-awareness. Painfully insecure which lead to many of these outbursts. Always criticized other. Probably (upon reflection) a narcissist and was definitely always making everything about what a poor victim he was.

After a short period I disliked this fellow so intensely that I left him (much like his wife had - HA).

All this is to say - a person can appear to have it all on the outside (royal prince) but really just be a crap person with very few (to zero) redeeming qualities.

I'm not saying this describes Harry, but I'm saying these things are more common than one may think.
NeutralObserver said…
@Sandie, I obviously misread your post yesterday re: the divorce. You could be right, although I think Megs is such an opportunist that she'd stay married as long as she thinks she'll benefit from it. I don't think she has any real affection for Harry. She doesn't need it in her relationships, which seem pretty transactional.
hunter said…
Also I am in horror the royal children may be wearing grocery-store costumes.

That's just... so wrong.
@Liver. Very good point about the British press being restrained compared to European counterparts. That said, who wouldn't want to see those nippers in their Halloween costumes.

Glad you like my user name, though as you may have guessed from some of my comments I actually live in the frozen North - far, far away from the Royal Borough of T W.
NeutralObserver said…
Nutty, a great post as always. I just hope you haven't made a case for Megs to get RPOs at UK expense for the rest of her life!
@neutral. I like a good police drama myself. Didn't know she came from there. She is too nice for Harry, but at least we would have had a Duchess of Dumbarton who had actually visited the town.
Lurking said…
@Hunter:

"Also I am in horror the royal children may be wearing grocery-store costumes.

That's just... so wrong."


Why is it wrong? Honestly, when my sons were younger, 1 quick trip to the store was a godsend. I can sew, but do not want to spend a couple of weeks making costumes. I've played Mr. Lurking in charge of Halloween this year... there was shopping done at an auto parts store.
alice france said…
@Nutty: Thank you for the subject of today's conversation, which is never covered in the media about Meghan. Extremely interesting and informative. I agree with what the speakers are saying: no respect for the work of her bodyguards, for the money spent on her protection and especially for her lack of awareness of the real dangers for herself.

@Crocodile Fairy: I agree with you and I think this woman has an intelligence well below average, and with spectacular flashes of stupidity

(excuse me tonight for my poor English, an early flu tires my small grey cells and I have trouble thinking in your language. I would like to have bodyguards to protect me from viruses)
Lurking said…
Edit: placed, not played.
Lady BreakWind said…
It is always important to remember that Meghan is that lethal combination of arrogant and stupid.
SwampWoman said…
Jen said: I think Bob Ross would garner more viewers....

Probably. He seems to be a popular cult figure among the young. Who'da thought?
KitKatKisses said…
FWIW, the scuttlebutt of the day is that one or both of our favorite couple will be going to rehab or to a mental hospital. I do sincerely hope H gets the help he obviously needs.
Ann Christensen said…
There you go again,Nutty! Thinking and writing like a perfectly normal and sane (personality-disorder free) person....which we know MM is not. Logic does not seem to avail. Thus the continuing freak show. But it is a comfort to read your adult suggestions. Is the RF thinking about these issues I wonder?
JL said…
@LadyBreakWind (now that’s a name)
“t is always important to remember that Meghan is that lethal combination of arrogant and stupid.”
Bwaaah!
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Lurking said...
@Hunter:

"Also I am in horror the royal children may be wearing grocery-store costumes.

That's just... so wrong."


Why is it wrong? Honestly, when my sons were younger, 1 quick trip to the store was a godsend. I can sew, but do not want to spend a couple of weeks making costumes. I've played Mr. Lurking in charge of Halloween this year... there was shopping done at an auto parts store.


I can see Hunter's point. Can you IMAGINE the costume material in the various castle attics? But, on the other hand, they are probably priceless relics in which case shopping for costumes at the grocery store would definitely be preferable. Plus, they'll fit in with the other kids.
Sandie said…
NeutralObservor: @Sandie, I obviously misread your post yesterday re: the divorce. You could be right, although I think Megs is such an opportunist that she'd stay married as long as she thinks she'll benefit from it. I don't think she has any real affection for Harry. She doesn't need it in her relationships, which seem pretty transactional.

Hi there! I was suspicious of her from the start, but I wasn't keen on Kate and took a long time to warm to her. To me, Meghan has increasingly shown herself to be a narc and she is too old to change. She will never be a team player; the only life-long commitment is to her self; she fell in love with what Harry could give her and she will keep him around as long as he is useful to her and she can completely control and dominate him.

She must be a nightmare for staff, including RPOs!

I just want to shake the two of them and say, go and play some tennis, try fishing or horse riding or sailing, even a team sport ... anything to get some healthy exercise and stop obsessing over your problems and suffering.
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@kit kat. Tell us more. About time if true.
SwampWoman said…
Hunter says:

Recently I was dating a 45-y/o good-looking wealthy man (making 2.5 million/yr) who acted like a goddamn 3-y/o when he didn't get his way. He was nasty to waitresses and strangers and staff on airplanes and at hotels.

He had no capacity for self-reflection or personal insight. No self-awareness. Painfully insecure which lead to many of these outbursts. Always criticized other. Probably (upon reflection) a narcissist and was definitely always making everything about what a poor victim he was.


Oh, I HATE the people that are rude and nasty to those that they consider their social inferiors. They seem to also go out of their way to target people that are not allowed to defend themselves verbally because of their job.
KitKatKisses said…
@Disgusted, LOL all I know is the rumor hitting the Tumblr blogs. My guess is that it is for H, that the RF will put him in an intensive program to treat his alleged addictions and mental health problems. As you say, about time. There are more public clues that support this IMO...William saying he is worried about/concerned for H; palace spokesperson confirming that the 6 week break is for "medical leave." And practically speaking, the RF needs H to divorce M but in order for that to happen he needs to be unbrainwashed. Also I'm not sure how they would have the authority to hospitalize M against her will. I assume HMTQ has the legal power to commit H.
Thanks. Interesting development. It probably is an intervention for Harry. I don't think Megan believes her behaviours need to be corrected. A six weeks period doesn't sound long enough to address his myriad problems. Wish him well though.
KitKatKisses said…
@Disgusted, agree 6 weeks doesn't seem long enough, but there is what they announce publically and what goes on behind the scenes.
Who knows, they might be telling H something low key just to get him to cooperate. Agree about Meghan.
KnitWit said…
Meg's could come up with a line of baby bumps and butt pads to merch on TV!
KnitWit said…
They could benefit from couples therapy too.

Disgruntled staff or people at events should leak her tirades.
jw12 said…
Hey, just found this blog and I'm trying to catch up. One note of intrest is that the Queen removed a pic of MM today according to page six.

Neutral- I love Shetland and Broadchurch. I
JenS said…
Several of us here have noted that M seems to view herself as the Second Coming of Diana. What if (and this is pure speculation), part of that Di-wannabe narrative included putting herself in harm's way to be the "People's Princess," like Diana did? How much more popularity and affection would she gain if she *were* attacked whilst mingling with the plebs during an official engagement?

If that happened, it would confirm and echo H's narrative about his mum, make M look like a royal martyr willing to risk all to bask in the love of her adoring subjects, and cement her place in the RF forever. There would be no exile to the States, no revoking of titles, no quiet fade to irrelevancy then. She would become the object of cult-like fervour forever after. Best part: if still alive, she could blame the BRF for not protecting/supporting her properly. Her unhinged stans could even proclaim it a racist conspiracy to get rid of her. If it got traction, that notion could even help bring down the monarchy.

(removes tin hat) Crazy theories aside, I believe it's simply more of M doing Princess Power Plays: "I'm a Duchess and I will do whatever I want!" She probably enjoys watching the RPOs sweat bullets trying to deal with her.
Mom said…
@JenS
Omg- imagine if she pulls a Jussie Smollett!!
Unknown said…
Glowworm here: (I wish I could figure out how to get my user name on here...so sorry) But anyway, I found this today. ‪What a joke...‬
‪Strict Rules Meghan Markle Refuses To Follow To Lose Weight After Birth https://youtu.be/9yMB4M4-DcA via @YouTube‬
Lurking said…
@Unknown... you have to sign in to your google account. It will automatically include your name once you do that.
Unknown said…
@Jen#: Brilliant theory about Markle putting herself in danger on purpose to appear more like Diana. I can totally see that. I wonder how far she will push that? I’m surprised she didn’t do the fake landmine walk with H...

Glowworm 🐛
Unknown said…
Thanks, Lurking!

🐛
Lurking said…
6 weeks... in order to avoid California income taxes, someone claiming a foreign residence who previously lived in California cannot return to the state for more than 45 days and be exempted from taxes.

They are supposedly spending Thanksgiving with Doria, that doesn't leave a lot of time for rehab. Perhaps a 30 day inpatient program in a swanky Malibu treatment center?
JL said…
@Nutty I stopped using google in safari back when I couldn’t post on your site as well as CDAN from there. Firefox worked then so I switched to it and now it is a habit. Also it doesn’t track me the way Google does. Something about how I hold a phone makes me a poor typist. I’ve tried the dictation function and have learned that it doesn’t understand me very well even though I’m an American English speaker. And how many times do I want to correct “hairy” to Harry?

Of course you and the blog had to change to accommodate all posters. Totally right.
On the phone, the blog type is quite readable until you click “post s comment” then the type face goes to san serif and becomes smaller for the whole thread becomes san serif and smaller. Yes zooming in helps, but you can’t see what you’ve typed as a whole.
I manage. It’s okay. If I was on the laptop more, it wouldn’t be a problem. I’m just not.

I did discover a plus. Once you have clicked “post a comment” and the thread type becomes smaller, if you go up to the top of the thread, there is a teeny tiny “collapse comments,” which, if you click it, you get just a list of user names in order of comment so you can more easily pick up where you left off reading or just quickly eyeball for posts you like like yours.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIgkBMas9vo

this woman used to be the editor of Star magazine.

She says that this is potentially an abusive marriage and explains how Meghan is manipulating Harry. It's the best explanation I have heard yet.
NeutralObserver said…
@jw12, I love Shetland as well. All those dark, bloody crimes in that beautiful place, inhabited by the nicest possible people. I love how Jimmy, Tosh & Sandy mull over the most gruesome facts of their cases in their quiet monotones, LOL. Megs & her Numbnuts hubby should get out & familiarize themselves with places in the UK like Shetland, not go private jetting to Ibiza, the south of France, & enviro/confabs with all the other virtue signalers. We all know that there are big problems in the world, but no need to give oneself pats on the back for saying we need to do something about climate change, & oh, by the way all the plebes need to stop flying, & if they don't, I won't be able to get out of bed in the morning, I'll just have to 'survive not thrive,' while being 'stronger than ever!'

They're trying to revive the beautiful Shetland Fair Isle handknits on Shetland. Maybe some of those ladies would like to be empowered! Even Harry, with his thinning, bristly, badger-like red hair might look good in a colorful, textured Fair Isle knit sweater. Megs could tuck her wig into a brightly colored knit hat. I can see the photo ops now!
Girl with a Hat said…
about my last post - this woman explains how she got stories about the Royals while she was running Star magazine in the USA -- basically, she made them up because it's so hard to get any gossip about them in the USA. Same thing Enty basically said.
NeutralObserver said…
@JL, I know what you mean about the dictation function on your phone not understanding your English. I think they're programmed with software produced by non English speakers, or maybe they just don't understand my bland American accent. I'm always astonished that they don't adjust words for context. Some software is pretty good at it.
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Mimi said…
Someone please tell me....WHAT is it exactly they want? What kind of “support” are they talking about? They have been left to do their own thing since the day they met.....things nobody in the RF has ever done, things that are not right. They have never been prevented from doing all their crazy shit. So I don’t understand what they want. And what was he trying to accomplish by dragging his brother William into all this?

Charles, for all intents and purposes, is in control now so turning down or rejecting an invitation or request is like doing it to the Queen. It just isn’t done!
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NeutralObserver said…
@charade, Maybe we should say 'arry. Oh no, then my phone will write 'airy.' It really is annoying. No way I can convince my phone I'm British.
JL said…
@Unknown who wants to change her username. Try coming at it from the email account that you use to sign in
to comment.
Mimi said…
I love it when people lighten up and throw in some humor. These two are so dark and dangerous with what they are doing. If seems like she is daring someone to do something to her. Very foolish!!!!!!
NeutralObserver said…
@Mischi, I've long suspected that Harry was in an abusive relationship with Megs. Something is off, his demeanor at TTC, the polo match, on the side lines in their African appearances, his agitated state in the ITV interview, not that of a well man. He needs help, whatever is going on. I don't know if Megs could ever benefit from therapy of any sort. I suspect she would be one those people who lie to their therapist, to keep the artificial version of themselves that they have created intact, both for their own consciousness, & for their therapist's perception of them.
Mimi said…
People like her cannot be treated because they see nothing wrong with what they do.
JL said…
@NeutralObserver @Charade LOL “arry

@Mischi I think the Star Magazine woman is dead right. He is being abused, psychologically for sure.
And remember how she slapped his thigh in the carriage at TOC? Not to mention how angry she becomes when he rejects the claw?

Have been leaving comments all over the place that ‘Arry needs to be kidnapped and deprogrammed. It would be wonderful if the royal family really does it. He will be so humoliated when he comes to. But that would be the end of her. He’s her power source. Divorced she would shrivel up like the Wicked Witch of the West.
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earlybird2 said…
from blind gossip:

[Blind Gossip] When this famous couple took a recent trip, much ado was made over a walk the husband took.
It was heralded as an emotional moment for him, as he was following in the footsteps of a relative who had walked the same path many years before.
Afterword, he blah blah blahed about his feelings.
First of all, he apparently thinks you forgot that he did this exact same photo op several years ago! Yet, for some odd reason, this time is the one that is causing him anguish?
Whatever.
Second of all, the outfit and mask he wore were not really unnecessary. They were simply props to make the photos more directly comparable.
Third of all, guess who was supposed to be walking the same path… in the same mask?
Oh, yes!
His TV actress wife.
We don’t know if it was supposed to be just her, or her with her husband.
It was pitched as the ultimate passing-of-the-torch moment.
The expectation was that she would comfort him and the the hearts of the little people would melt and she would be seen as the next coming of a beloved figure.
Then, God save us all, someone came to their senses.
Someone on the team decided that having her do the walk would be too ham handed and perhaps create a backlash, so the plan was scrapped and he was scheduled to simply repeat the same walk he had already done years ago.
Given their long list of publicity blunders, that was probably the first good decision that has been made in months.
Well done, Team!
SDJ said…
KitKatKisses "he needs to be unbrainwashed" - exactly! Doubtful that MM relaxes the Sussex claw enough for that to happen though.

I would love for William to invite him over and while he is in the kitchen brewing a pot of tea, send in the kids to play with Uncle H. They would (kids & H) love it, but can you imagine the questions? "Why don't you come over any more Uncle?" "Why doesn't Archie come to play with us?". Maybe a couple of hours with those kids and their questions might start to get his brain functioning.

As long as he is kept isolated from the rest of the world, she can continue to nurture his victimhood. Does Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy apply here?

I hope he can get counselling and that the counsellor can twig to what's happened to him. MM will want to attend all sessions of course.
NeutralObserver said…
@Mimi, you're probably right. I don't think she feels empathy. She can inflict pain, but not feel it, or acknowledge it in another person. It's one of the big differences between her & Diana. Ava C. & another poster shared some Diana anecdotes yesterday in which she showed she really sensed someone else's suffering, & she did it when there were no cameras or reporters around. Diana also used to make charming little self-deprecating jokes about her looks & brains. Megs just tells everyone how great she is. That may be a function of how her generation was brought up. Self esteem must be protected at all cost. It's not just Megs.
Now I really have to tear myself away. Have a lovely evening, ladies!
Jdubya said…
Blind Gossip. The masked Walker. Good thing some one came to their senses and put a stop to it.

Yes, it's about M&H.
CatEyes said…
Someone blogged about the Disney Exec and what he might be thinking about now concerning the huge donation to Sussex Foundation...I'm thinking he is probably thrilled because MM will undoubtedly given him inspiration for a new kind of Disney princess, a deeply dark maiden who a hapless Prince runs into, falls under her spell and ruins the lives of all the castle's inhabitants.It's happily never after!
Nelo said…
Dan Wotton has a new report. It's worth reading. He says Harry is worth 20m but Meghan isn't worth much. He says Charles people want him to turn off the tap. REVEALED Paranoia, petty snubs and power grabs - the story of the royal war that's set Harry and Meghan against Charles and William. If you want to know what's REALLY going on, read my feature: https://t.co/dqHJaOXZ2H https://t.co/2V0kAunAbi
Lurking said…
@Mimi:

"Someone please tell me....WHAT is it exactly they want? What kind of “support” are they talking about? They have been left to do their own thing since the day they met"

They had support, but Smeg thinks she's the smartest one in the room and thinks she can do it all. Anyone that tried to help got the ax. Now they complain about no support. They must really think people don't remember or weren't paying attention. Another story floated out there to see if it sticks. It will be something else tomorrow.
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lizzie said…
Well, they weren't supported in their reported request to create an entirely independent  (except financially) household in order to "create a Sussex global brand." They weren't supported in being given outright the equivalent of Anmer Hall. They weren't supported at the TOC last year in that they did not get their own carriage. They weren't supported in being allowed to horn in at the POW anniversary celebration.  Instead they were treated not like TQ, not like the current POW, and not like the future POW (as they likely thought was their due) but rather like all the other members of the royal family. I can imagine both H&M collecting ridiculous grievances like these.
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Anonymous said…
Rehab is longer than 30 days.
Mimi said…
They probably want the RF to PUBLICLY support them in their lawsuits. Give them access to any and all resources necessary to win them.
Louise said…
It is beginning to be cold here in Canada, and I can no longer adjust my scarf without thinking of William scarfing $markle.
Unknown said…
Everytime I adjust my scarf now, it feels like a silent 'God save the King.'

... Well, future King I guess, but whatever, the sentiment is still the same. Thank Heaven for William.
Ava C said…
I've only seen part of the Prince Charles documentary so far but I loved it and there's an article here showing I'm not alone:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7610881/Documentary-WORK-note-Harry-Meghan-Viewers-praise-Prince-Charles-ITV-show.html

Looks as if disgruntled Brits are going to take MORE of an interest in it than otherwise, as an antidote to Meghan and as a way of showing THIS is what we care about! The mainland and islands of our own country, rural and city folk, all ages. I loved the reminders of my childhood summers in Somerset, to see agricultural shows still go on. The affection showed by tenants seemed perfectly genuine. Prince Charles was obviously meeting 2nd and 3rd generations of families he knows personally. Also made the point he took over responsibility aged 21 (look at the state of Harry at 33!) when the Duchy was barely breaking even, and now has profits of £21M p.a. It's the bulk of his work. William was in and out too, looking fine and just what is needed for the future. It's not all rural but that's the bit I've seen so far. Camilla stood by, looking stalwart and interested. Both were gracious and approachable. Prince Charles was funny and warm, which I've always appreciated.

The DM article sums it up. This was about his WORK. No obsessing about himself and just seeing everyone else as a backdrop. Antidote is the word. As someone said earlier, they missed the old days of royal watching. Cute kids and big occasions. The BRF are meant to provide relief, not make things worse. That Breitbart article was right when it said Meghan is probably the second most divisive issue in the country after Brexit. I'll leave you with my favourite quote:

"What we object to is being lectured by some random actress who only arrived in the country about ten minutes ago, yet now feels that because she’s married to Prince Charles’s younger son it’s her job to make us all think like politically correct Hollywood drones.

If Princess Pushy feels like she is being got at by Britain’s tabloid media — traditionally the Royal Family’s staunchest supporters — all she has to do is stop behaving like a Hollywood snowflake and start behaving like an actual British royal."





Royal Fan said…
I’ve been trying to find articles that confirm palace stating six week leave is for “medical leave“ but have been unable to do so. Anybody have a link?
Ava C said…
Samantha Markle's back!!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7611281/Samantha-Markle-says-ludricrous-millionaire-half-sister-Meghan-complain-anything.html

Don't know what the DM's on about with her 'brief silence' though. It's been AGES. I'm sure a lot of Brits would welcome her with open arms and apologies now. She's not perfect but we now know she was right. Why has she broken her silence now? What does this mean?
Fifi LaRue said…
@Ava: Perhaps it means Markle has stopped sending "generous" regards to Samantha. So, perhaps Meg has run out of extra funds. Time to tap Harry's inheritance.
Unknown said…
Not to toot my own horn, but Samantha and I have been Twitter ‘friends’ for over a year now. This afternoon, I mentioned to her that you folks at NuttyFlavor thought she was ‘silenced’, ‘paid-off’. She replied neither. She also said her dad not not been invited to dine with the harkles on Thsnksgiving.

Glad to see she’s popping up again somewhere besides Twitter. ‘Silenced’ she is not.
Glowworm 🐛
Artemisia19 said…
I’m sorry if this is of topic but has anyone read Dan Wootton’s article in The Sun? Holy Cow.
Artemisia19 said…
What an incredibly sad situation for Charles, William, and Harry. I can’t imagine Diana would have wanted this.
avocado said…
Much to catch up on, but wanted to share an observation that's slightly off topic. I checked out the @royalfamily twitter feed (official twitter for the Queen and her family's activities), and this time there's no tweet or retweet about Meghan's event at the One New World even though it was posted on the Court Circular. You think it's subtle shade or a mere oversight? I mean, they did post Harry's WellChild event with a photo of Meghan and that event came after the big bombshell of the SA tour lawsuit and the leaks of the documentary clips. What if the CNN piece, which was published on the same day as Meghan's solo event, was the last straw though? I suppose it's wait and see. If Meghan's next solo event at Buckingham Palace with the One New World doesn't show up on the feed, we might have the answer.

KnitWit said…
Maybe MM calls Harry H or the Duke because of voice recognition software.

Not sure if their relationship is abusive, but it seems codependent. It is not healthy to have to check on a partner hourly or more frequently - especially if the spouse seems happier on his own. It is also unhealthy for 0ne partner to not allow the other to talk. Very demeaning and insulting.

Both seem uncomfortable with the child also. They are both the youngest children. He was raised with nannies and nurses. Neither may have experience caring for babies. Neither have family nearby. They probably also have different ideas about childrearing.

Family therapy would be helpful. Who is caring for Archie? MM doesn't dress like a woman breastfeeding and leaking. She doesn't carry a purse large enough to carry pumps and expelled milk either.

Is is no one's business, but silly to lie about such things.

I don't believe that MM is some superwoman, strutting and squatting in 6" heels throughout her first pregnancy, breastfeeding without leaking, caring for a baby who sleeps 10+ hours at a time, never cries, never fusses, sits up unassisted at 3-4 months and is starting to talk early too. Such amazing genetic specimens these Sussex folks.

Makes me think of the movie meet the Dockers with Robert DeNiro and a fake breast contraption to feed the grandson.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Knitwit, you mean she's replaced Harry with a robot? LOL

Remember, Harry has 3 nieces and nephews. I don't know about you, but my uncle started his family after my mother so he played with us a lot. He took us to see the Disney movies and lots of fun stuff. And he babysat when my parents wanted to go dancing.
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KnitWit said…
No. Not a robot. The contraption was so that men can breast feed too. It was a fillable boob vest. Very silly. Perhaps it is trying to be "gender neutral". I could imagine MM following whackading parenting b.s. if she stopped thinking of herself for a minute. Man can be good parents without being emasculated by controlling women.

I had a neighbor who read lots of new age parenting magazines with recipes for cooking placentas and all sorts of far out ideas. She laughed at some, tried others. She teaches yoga now too.

Plenty of parents share feedings, etc. Whatever works for each family.

Narcissists like my mother didn't want their baby to bond with anyone but them. They micromanage and triangulate. She may be threatened if a child bonds with anyone but her.

In my case, fate intervened and my grandmother cared for me while my mother worked. It is very difficult for anyone to be isolated by a narcissist. This is probably why this dysfunctional drama bothers me.

My younger brother is a boy child with substance abuse issues not unlike Harry (without the inheritance). He seems like a great guy, outgoing friendly.... but he is an abusive, violent drunk in private.

I hope some one intervenes for Archie's sake.
KnitWit said…
I knit and design knits. There are some wonderful British knitwear designers in both traditional styles and modern work. There are also historians documenting techniques used in historic pieces.

Imagine if someone in the royal family brought attention to British handcrafts. Artisans could benefit from the publicity. A public platform like Vogue could focus on traditional British wool Mills, tailoring, knits, etc.

Years ago, the Danish royal family had a photo holding a newborn baby in a hand knit blanket. After tons of inquiries magazine published a pattern which was eventually translated into other languages. Knitters all over the world made it, many using Danish wool.

The V&A museum is a treasure trove of hand made items. I love visiting their website.
Girl with a Hat said…
KnitWit, I love to knit as well. I often go to knitting magazines in various countries to look at their patterns. I find the Russian knitting magazines consistently have nice knitting patterns, and also my mother's French knitting magazines from the 50s and 60s.

Do you happen to know where I could have a look at the Danish pattern you were talking about?

I don't think Meghan could ever do something like that. She doesn't appreciate the work other people do. For her, it's just about the price of an item, not the craftsmanship.

There is so much she could do, but from the latest article in DM, it seems like they want to take over the world. The article says that the Sussex Foundation will be active in 53 countries, including all of the countries of the British Commonwealth and the USA.

The BRF are still in denial. They are trying to contain the damage, instead of addressing the root cause. They think that if they cut Charles' funding to the gruesome twosome, they will be brought to heel. It's too late for that. They have found alternate forms of funding through merching and influence peddling like the Disney "donation". They must go to the source and cut them at the root. Remove them from their positions in the Queen's Commonwealth Trust. Sic the Inland Revenue on them. Leak like crazy to the papers and give them permission to print the dirty details of their plans to take over the world. Seriously, that is what Meghan and Harry are planning. Like the Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Except Bill Clinton didn't have to climb over his brother to do it.
KnitWit said…
There is a famous picture of the Duke of Windsor wearing a Shetland best holding a Westie. It revitalized interest in Shetland style sweaters.


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/222787512787561137/
KnitWit said…
Shetland Vest. Autocorrect doesn't knit.
SwampWoman said…
KnitWit said:

I hope some one intervenes for Archie's sake.

YES! People may not understand how urgent it is. Diagnosed narc that I know had two sons commit suicide in their 20s and a daughter go into hiding, living off the grid working for cash only because she is in such fear of her mother. Remaining adult child is in therapy several times a week.
CatEyes said…
@KnitWit After watching the documentary on Charles and his work for the Duchy it would seem like he would be very interested in such handcrafts as you were writing about. I'm in America but having a strong interest in ethnic sheep I noticed some of those Duchy raised sheep are wool breeds. It seems Charles is keenly interested in everything historical, organic, heritage etc...and it seems handmade historical designed knitwear would fit in his scheme of things.
Sconesandcream said…
It's been quite clear from day one that MM does not respect Royal protocol and does not listen to Royal advisors. We all remember that video of her standing on the balcony during the trooping of the colour and clearly being told off by Harry because she was talking when she shouldn't have. So her not listening to the security teams is just par for the course. My concern is for the Cambridges. I know they are experienced Royals who always follow security protocol but there are some seriously deluded female sugars out there who worship MM and see Kate as a threat to their "Queen".

On a lighter note, DM readers are welcoming Samantha's return with absolute delight. Hoping she will spill some more truth about MM.
Rainy Day said…
Dan Wootten’s column in The Sun says that Media Meg fobbed off appearing with Charles on his show because she wanted all the attention to be on her so-called documentary. That, and not going to Balmoral, shows how short-sighted she is. She seems to be deliberately going out of her way to not be on good terms with “the family she never had”, and then she has the nerve to complain that nobody asks how she’s doing???? She really doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on reality.
This topic makes me a a little apprehensive because it's just the kind of ammunition that MMs fans need to say that her haters ate so deranged they wish her harm. We have seen how out of context any critisism of her taken as. That being said, I agree it's a legit concern and something to mull over.

Mm seems so brazen in her grandiose come that she always marching ahead like a drunk elephant through traffic. Managing her security must be a nightmare because obviously she doesn't care about other people's legitimate concerns. But also, I think she is would not take this issue so seriously because she has over a period of time slowly got into Hs head and made paranoid about her safety and well-being. She would have made him think she needs z-grade security but because she has worked to make him think so, she takes it lightly herself. To her this is an illusion she has created around her myth and so any real concerns are not real enough to her. That would be part of her ploy and mind games.

Those of us who have any experience with narcs and manipulative people.would know that this is a classic ploy used by the narcs to make their prey paranoid, jealous, insecure. So she would intensionally make light of the security concerns so Harry becomes more paranoid, we know he has 'my mommy died because of this' issues.

It also helps her in her cause to appear to be carefree, approachable, one amongst the people.the narrative to sell would be 'oh she was so down to earth, always laughing and hugging, she never let anyone down if they wanted to shake her hand or get a hug, and she never once cared about her own safety. She is such a humanitarian!'

This behaviour is part of her MO to whittle away at her husband's confidence, sense if sanity. He will spend sleepless nights worried about how he is not able to save her. And that exactly is what she is feeding off of. After all, is not strange that she appears at an engagement just days after this all blows up, smiling, beaming, strutting through the crowds like nothing ever happened? In her mind, she has scored a point by bring this family disfunction out of the shadows. And more importantly, by infanticised and humiliated her husband which she wanted to do.

KnitWit said…
There is a photo on the heading of the Danish website. Lots of sweaters.

"
Crown Princess Mary used a shawl knitted by her mother, the late Henrietta Donaldson, as a receiving blanket for both Prince Christian and Princess Isabella when leaving the hospital. It is an old traditional Shetland christening shawl pattern (like this: see Marianne Knorborg's site, who translated"

https://danishroyalwatchers.blogspot.com/?m=1


Looking for a pattern. It was similar to a Shetland shawl, knit by a relative, garter stitch center with a wide lace edging.

Here is a pattern on Ravelry:

https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/babysvbet---det-hele-kongerige

It sends you to a Danish pattern which my browser translated well enough to knit

https://www.familiejournal.dk/haandarbejde/strikkeopskrifter/strikkeopskrifter-til-boern/strik-marys-royale-babysvoeb

Most Knitters are familiar with ravelry.com. Lots of Shetland shawls there including free patterns.

This one is similar
https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/feather-knitted-shawl

Piecework magazine by Interweave press features needlecrafts from around the world they did some articles on Shetland colorwork and lace.

Here are some good books on Shetland lace.

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Magic_of_Shetland_Lace_Knitting.html?id=CwivAwAAQBAJ

This great book by Sharon Miller may be out of print, maybe a library search.

Heirloom Knitting https://www.amazon.com/dp/1898852758/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EeNSDb3TYA3SE

Nevermind, Schoolhouse knits reissued Miller's book. It is my favorite.

https://www.schoolhousepress.com/books/lace/heirloom-knitting.html

An older but also good book on Shetland and Irish Knit lace is Traditional Lace Shawls by Martha Waterman.

Traditional Knitted Lace Shawls https://g.co/kgs/hhaVRs

My favorite book on Shetland colorwork is Traditional Fair Isle knitting by Shelia MacGreagor

The Complete Book of Traditional Fair Isle Knitting https://g.co/kgs/9pDcp8

I learned to knit from my Norwegian Grandmother and lots of books. French magazines from the 40s and 50s ohh la la! I have a few vintage Anny Blatt magazines.

Alice Starmore and her daughter Jade are famous modern day English Knitters. Like their work, Alice is a difficult woman.

Rowan company has a stable of English designers including the renoun Kaffe Fasset. The company was better as an independent Moll before the founder retired, closed the mill and sold to Coats and Clark.

Anyone in London interested in English fiberarts should visit the wonderful Liberty of London store that also carries books and yarn, at least it did the last time I visited. MM should buy herself a couple Liberty of London dresses.

I would love to buy Harris Tweed fabric and coordinating Shetland wool. I have some if each, but they don't match.

I am currently in Florida missing my sweaters and dreaming of fall. New to Florida, considering moving back north. Originally from NYC. Spent time in London and Wales for work.


Nutty Flavor said…
Ha ha! Earlier this week someone suggested that we were a "sewing circle" - I suppose we've become a "knitting circle" overnight. FWIW, where I live knitting clubs/fiber arts are very popular with young women, and with some young men.

At any rate, the Dan Wooton story that @RainyDay mentioned above had a figure that stood out for me - it said that Harry had "20 million pounds" in the bank.

We've heard it frequently said that Harry had a trust fund of about 30 million pounds from Diana, which he received full control of at age 30.

Is the Wootton story suggesting that Harry has gone through 10 million pounds since marrying Meghan?

Given the spending on publicity with high-end Sunshine Sachs, it's not impossible.

Nutty Flavor said…
I can now see that @Artemesia mentioned the Wootton piece as well. And I agree it is sad.

I hope William's takeaway from this is that Charlotte and Louis should be encouraged to pursue full educations and find something they can do with their lives. Fine if it's the usual upper-class stuff - land management, art galleries, finance - but they need to have something they do to both serve society and pass the time, to get a sense of themselves as useful humans.

Harry has no skills, no vocation, and no self-confidence.
Nutty, adding to your last comment, I also think that, sadly, Harry has no one in his corner.

The way things are shaping up, it's becoming obvious that his wife doesn't actually have his back. With her comment that her her friends warned her not to marry him as that will destroy her, and she thinks at the time she was too naive to believe them, she has thrown him under the bus. She is blaming him for destroying her ideal life.
Beth said…
Apparently the Markle family circus is back in town. Sammy has crawled out from under her rock and is apparently violating whatever NDA she had being on the MM payroll. I never thought I'd be interested to see her again.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7611281/Samantha-Markle-says-ludricrous-millionaire-half-sister-Meghan-complain-anything.html
@Ava C, ‘'ve only seen part of the Prince Charles documentary so far but I loved it.’

I watched the documentary and thoroughly enjoyed it, I will watch the second episode. I’ve always enjoyed what he does, he takes a genuine interest in people and his country. The Isles of Scilly bit touched me the most. It’s owned by the Duchy, it said most of the islanders manage on a shoestring and 90% coming from tourism. A shoemaker barely getting by, was visibly touched when he spoke about the £2k he received from the Duchy benevolent fund (to help him get by financially). An act of kindness, amongst many shown by the Duchy. I know the Duchy generates a lot of wealth for the PoW, and I know a lot, but probably more foreign nationals would view the feudalism as archaic, but people on these estates (owned by The Duchy and aristocrats alike), are well looked after, and usually for a lifetime and into retirement.

Humility and empathy are traits that are apparently lacking in Meghan and Harry, and could learn a lot from the PoW.
Came across this gem via a link on TCH. While it was a funny, snarky read to begin with, as I read on it seemed more and more like a list of slights that both H and M would be holding in to in their heads. The article is titled "Who's fault is it- list of the Dumbarton disaster duo"
Hope the link works


https://scorpiotwentythree.tumblr.com/post/187095319667/here-s-confirmation-of-what-i-just-mentioned-in-my
@Louise500. Outrageous. That £2000 could have kept Megz supplied with avocados and the finest tea from Fortnums for a good few months.
Maggie said…
From the outside it looks as though Harry may well be the victim of Coercive Control. The subject was covered very thoroughly in the British radio soap The Archers and was discussed widely over a couple of years. Coercive Control is a criminal offence, putting psychological abuse on a par with physical abuse and punishable by a custodial sentence.
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/a31487/what-is-coercive-control/

It's beyond debate that Harry is in a very bad place psychologically and the family must be seriously concerned for his welfare. His wife very clearly thrives on his distress; every public appearance of them as a couple shows a woman who is revelling in her power over him and his ever diminished status. Should the family feel it is the right route to follow they could request that he be sectioned under the Mental Health Act; a forced separation could be the only way to save him. Whilst I agree that to a considerable extent he has been complicit in saying FU to his family he certainly didn't agree to the public humiliation he is enduring every time he is seen with MM. It would be very interesting to know if any of her previous partners recognise this behaviour.
https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/nhs-services/mental-health-services/mental-health-act/
I have just had an idea about what "she who must be obeyed" could do with her RPOs. I am sure the mothers and fathers whose children have been stabbed in Hackney or other inner city London boroughs would be more than happy to have them patrolling the streets. There, problem solved for you, Megz.
Beth said…
Nutties, what do you think of Harry making an unscheduled appearance today, accompanying Meg to the gender equality roundtable today?
An electric car. What happened to the Range Rovers?
Maggie said…
Merching for Audi
Maggie said…
Land Rover was last week!
Nutty Flavor said…
I rarely swear out loud, but I did say something not very ladylike when I saw Meghan's outfit for today.

Her reds don't match! Who wears a burgundy top (blue-based red) with a brick-toned (brown-based red) skirt?

It clashes like nobody's business. It looks simply awful.

And there are burgundy shoes to complete the outfit. Oh, my eyes.
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Nutty Flavor said…
@Beth, in answer to your question, I think they are trying to play happy families for the cameras, and "clap back" (one of Meg's favorite expressions) at anyone who might believe the rumors that Harry has been sent to rehab.

At least not yet.
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Nutty Flavor said…
I think their allegiance is to neither country, but to money and fame. And probably not to each other, in the long run.

I will say, however, that Meghan seems to have gotten her figure back - at least the figure that she, personally, is comfortable with, so good for her.
@Disgusted. Lol lol, she’d pass on the tea...far too British!
Didn't she have a dark green version of this leather skirt that she wore with a green shirt once before??

Also seems to me that she has taken a leaf out of her suits styling book. This is the kind of outfit her character in suits would have worn.

Harry still looks like a Betty downer on this engagement, and boy! She does know how to take ci trol fo the room. You hear her little speech and you would think she was the one that came up with the idea of One Young World.

Agree with Nutty, they want to show a United front, play happy families. But they are iver doing it, driving in themselves, in an electric car. Damage control much?!!
Liver Bird said…
The top is a bit low cut for the occasion and not weather appropriate - it's freezing here today! However, I do think she looks good. Her hair doesn't look like a mop and jewel tones and more fitted styles suit her.

So that's my something nice for the day! We have the usual word salad speech complete with an audience trying to hold back the WTF? expressions. But that's nothing new. It's Harry who is the real story here. He wasn't scheduled to be there, and he looks utterly miserable, as he almost always does around her. Why drag him out in front of the cameras which he finds so traumatising?

Also, Harry was driving their car. Is that another potential security headache?
Nutty Flavor said…
It would be interesting to see where the car arrived from, since they supposedly live quite close at Frogmore. Did anyone see the car driving in from that direction? It would be the least they could do to maintain the illusion they are living there.

@Alice, yes, she wore a version of this skirt in green during a trip to the University of Chichester in October 2018.

That didn't match properly either - the blouse was forest green and the skirt had an aqua tone - but it wasn't as awful as today's pairing.
abbyh said…

Good morning everyone.

Nutty> ooh colors, so clashy, clashy is right. I will say (mum taught me to sew) that colors under fluorescent light can appear to match but does not in natural light. Helpful when trying to match thread to fabric. Don't think that was what was happening here though (TBH).

Documentary - Sounds very kind, caring long term which cannot be pulled off in a shinny pr minute. Hope it hits youtube.

Samantha - I take a tolerant view about her. Family member in a wheelchair. It's not an easy life (mobility) and her disease is not an easy one either. Study up on spoon theory for chronic disease. And, to my knowledge (casually aware), she's been pretty accurate.

Knitting! Thank you, thank you. (the stash is calling me).



Since her usual RPO opened the door I'll hazard a guess and say that probably said buhbye to their driver just outside the gates. I think they'll say this was less than 5mins from our house so we decided to drive ourselves. Their last engagement together set tiungues wagging when they left in separate cars. They were photographed so they can't deny that (and they likely arrived separately too). So this is abitheblah PR strategy.

People are going to talk about it though. It's like every time we see them now, they try some sort of a statement to conter something stupid they did the last time. I'm exited to see what blunder they commit this time. I'm guessing it'll be Harry's 'wtf why am I here attitude's
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Liver Bird said…
Harry looks like a teenaged boy whose mum dragged him to a meeting thinking it would be good for him to listen in on some grown-up talk, although, as his sulky expression makes clear, he'd much rather be back at home playing video games. This really is a very very odd relationship.

Also, her wearing a light top on a very cold day - even if she was only outside for about 10 seconds - is another example of her not dressing for the season. A few weeks ago some people said she was wearing a winter coat - well OK putting it over her shoulders - on a very mild day because she's used to the Los Angeles weather. Well, here she is on a wintry day wearing a short sleeved top with no jacket! It's not about the weather, it's about the merching.

lizzie said…
The skirt is identical to the green one worn last year in Sussex. It does fit more tightly than the green. M now has a bulging belly she didn't have when wearing the green. I mention this not to body shame---but to remind people she wore the green skirt with no bulging belly to Sussex only NINE days before she she showed up at Eugenie's wedding in full maternity garb.

I wonder how often she gets those dangling side hair pieces cut to remain the perfect length to not stay put behind her ears? More than once a month?
Jenx said…
Agree Nutty that she is back to a figure she is comfortable with. But it did happen rather quickly. My guess is that she backpedaled from a second pregnancy stunt. Not too long ago she was lumpy,in an unnatural way, around the hips, butt and belly.
Electric car lol. Look we really are ECO warriors. Lol.
Harry looks better and it bodes well that he is miffed. He is going through the motions. He is with her maybe to contain her? Maybe no more solo outings for madam?
My feeling at this point, about the Firm, is either spill everything, her age, the Archie debacle, the yacht days, the alleged Epstein connections etc etc OR take her away to the country, out of sight, and into deep, intense Royal schooling. Don't let her on the stage until she has mastered grace, dignity and protocol. But way do I see her calling on Amnestry international in the second scenario. Lol
She is a complete and utter farce and many of us are tired of her.,it isn't that much fun anymore.
But ... The DM comments for the Charles doc are glowing. Nice for him in all of this.
They really are embracing their German heritage today - Audio cars and Hugo Boss threads. Harry probably approves given HB links to Nazi uniforms.
Shout out to Hikari. Meghan seems to be rocking Amy Winehouse hair today.
JLC said…
Such a low cut top. The queen must have spat out her tea.

@Jenx - I agree, it isn't fun anymore. I just can't believe she is still allowed to show up to these events...Does she have some awful dirt on the RF and they are agreeing to give her a platform for a set amount of time? So many questions.
Jen said…
@Nutty, I agree that the clash of different shades of red is unsettling! While her hair looked nicer, she needs to stop messing with it! She keeps touching her hair and that bothers me to no end.

@Charade,
I’ve always admired BRF etiquette because they are quite good at being inoffensive on the world stage. Not true for a lot of American etiquette.

I'm curious what American etiquette you are referring to? Not all Americans are hug happy like Megsy. I would never hug someone I don't even know; I'm far from a germaphobe, but I just wouldn't do it. I hug family and friends and in a professional setting, I shake hands. This is a professional setting, not a friendly gathering of friends.
Jenx said…
@jen. Totally agree about the hugging. In Canada, we don't tend to be huggers either, outside of family and friends. Even when people do the cheek kiss thing I've noticed that it isn't full on body contact like madam tackling that poor woman on stage. Handshakes are professional. Leave the hugging behind the scenes otherwise it looks like a show--- see, we are such good friends. I have friends. They love me, they really love me! Lol
@Jenx. Great comment. Total transparency or house arrest. Can't see many people signing the Amnesty petition to liberate her, though.
It looks like a sweater. But it's still a little nippy today, I definitely need more laters than that. She has to be cold.

Her hais is very irritating. I feel.like they must be clip on, she's awfully proud of that lame hairstyle and those tendrils. It makes her look too plain, like she left her house halfway ready, something's missing.
Maggie said…
An explanation of the Sussex Foundation from DM commenter

It is not a charity it is registered as a business in Arizona a low tax state and they can keep 95% of the money for themselves and only 5% to charity. I hope no one gives them a penny. The Disney corporation gave them 3 million for going to a premiere for one night that is a $2,850,000 pay day for a few hours. This is what greedy con woman Meghan wants, Harry is just being sucked into her con. He needs to wake up and get out of it before he had a break down if he is not already having it. He says somedays he doesn't want to get up out of bed, he is in deep depression and he can't see he is being gaslighted by a very dangerous narcissist using him to become famous and rich while destroying his mental health.
Sconesandcream said…
The over hugging is ridiculous. No-one hugs like this. The hair is ridiculous. Does she not trust a professional to do her hair? Her need to be the centre of attention is ridiculous. Harry is just an after thought at this point. It's very clear that she is not suffering but Harry definitely is. Yet she drags him out to this event. For what purpose?
Maggie said…
@Alice - good earrings, a nice bracelet, a discreetly expensive watch and beautiful clutch would complete the picture for me. We expect more from the royals!

Though let's be grateful she's given up taking an oversized tote everywhere she goes. She doesn't need to carry her lunch any more.
Unknown said…
Well, the v neck is much more flattering on her shape than the usual square or bardot necklines that she usually favours. It helps to streamline her silhouette and stops her from looking so 'boxy'. Her hair is also much more flattering up like this, although there is too much volume at the back...she REALLY needs to get rid of some of the length of the weace/extensions. So all in all, it's one of her better outfits. Not great, but...better. Slightly.

I do find it slightly off putting that they only ever seem to send her to these hyper-diverse events. It's like she's been pigeonholed as the token woc in the royal family. I'd find it rather patronising to be a BAME professional woman at these events, frankly. Is it the Palace sending her to these events, or is Markle selecting them herself? Either way, it feels uncomfortable to watch. Theres something calculated and self-conscious about this kind of tokenising, imo, and it isnt something that we Brits usually do.
Jen said…
I wonder when she had the boob job done. If you look at older photos of her, she's almost FLAT up top. This sweater emphasizes the girls a bit too much for my taste. It's tacky.
d.c. said…
Well-written take o.n Mm & the effect of her narcissism, essentially, on PH

https://spectator.us/meghan-markle-lost-sparkle-prince-harry/
Britannia said…
She looks like a tarty office worker.

Suits, anyone?
In all fairness to the BRF , @Unknown , can you imagine her opening a community centre in East Dulwich or sponcering the renovation of the sculpture garden at Anne Hathaway's cottage? She doesn't do dull mundane. Why do you we haven't heard any more about the animal charity she did earlier this year?!
Maggie said…
@Unknown- I totally agree on the predominance of WOC. From Vogue Forces for Change to SmartWorks - she selects predominantly non-white women, and I'm sick of it; it simply isn't representative of this country and it's demographic.

Similarly, in SA there was no concern expressed for the 50+ white farmers who are tortured and brutally murdered a year and massive discrimination against whites.

It appears the Sussexes have chosen to represent a small demographic of the UK and that risks a racist backlash. It's a very dangerous strategy.
@Maggie. That giant tote bag she had on her trip to Dublin was just preposterous. People have commented on her being stuck in time warp as regards her fashion sense -and that huge bag thing, which the stylist Rachel Zoe started, is so passé.

I see she has just been added to a Power List of the UK's most powerful Black Britons. I wasn't aware that she identified herself as either of those.
NeutralObserver said…
Glad to see so many fans of handmade crafts & Shetland knits here! @KnitWit, Shetland Island is so far north, it's practically part of Norway rather than Scotland, & I think there might have been a few tugs of war over it over the centuries. I think the colors & traditional textile patterns available all over the world are beautiful & part of our human cultural heritage.

Re: Megs' look. As Nutty has frequently pointed out, Megs seems stuck in the nineties. To me she's always had a Carrie Bradshaw, in Sex in the City vibe, she of the long dark roots showing, & unmatched gold & silver jewelry. Patricia Field did a great job making SJP look like a Greenwich Village free spirit. As a royal, however, Megs should go with Charlotte York Rosenblatt's look, not Carrie's. What I most object to in Meg's appearance is that sometimes she doesn't even look clean, especially her wig/hair. I think both Megs & Kate would both look great in Ivanka Trump's sophisticated bob & they both could use an update as they edge into their 40s. Kate is much better at styling her long hair, though. I would love to see Kate in a smooth sleek chin or shoulder length style & Megs in a much shorter do that uses her natural hair. She looks so downmarket in her expensive Hugo Boss leather skirt. Yuck. Sorry to sound like a snob, but if anyone should project 'upmarket' it would be a member of the BRF. The rest of the RF goes with classic, not trendy, & that's what they should project. They should also buy British as much as they can, as well! That's only common sense for them.
Unknown said…
The funbags were installed just before the African tour. I think that was at least part of the reason why people were speculating that she was pregnant. People says that she's put on weight, but I think it's mostly a combination of the boob job, cheek fillers, occasional butt pads and what I assume is some alcohol induced bloat around her tummy (I don't think it's a post-pregnancy pooch like some claim. As the proud owner of a mummy belly, it doesn't look right to me. Postpartum bellys hang low, almost between the pelvis. Meghan's belly looked hard and round and sat much higher...more like abdominal bloating, imo).
Remember how she inexplicably mentioned the chicken taco lunch she had while reading Michelle Os email? And she kept bringing food and chef in her Vogue editors letter? How she keeps gifting everyone her cookbook and says she has tried all recipes? Well that could all explain her belly could it? Many be she was so bored during g her mat leave that she just finally started eating. Infact going by Harry's looks she probably eats his share as well, that's why he's been so hangry lately.
NeutralObserver said…
Horrible thought, someone just mentioned that Megs poured herself into a green leather skirt right after announcing her 'pregnancy' at Eugenie's wedding. Hope she's not signaling another 'pregnancy' by revisiting her greatest hits of 2018 wardrobe! If the RF let her get away with another 'pregnancy,' I think the Brits should start making noises about a republic, to make the RF wake up. Does Charles actually want that? It's all so puzzling.
Louise said…
Jenx: "We tend to not be huggers in Canada".

We were not huggers, until Prime Hugger Justin Trudeau, who likes not only to hug everybody, but to almost rub noses with them as well. If the last swearing in of the cabinet was any indication, expect lots of hugging when the new cabinet is sworn in this November.

His wife is also a hugger. Recall that he and his wife are very close to Jessica Mulroney, who is close to Markle.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/its-too-familiar-justin-trudeau-plots-a-perilous-course-by-constantly-trying-to-hug-everyone
"But in a world of non-huggy people, the Canadian Prime Minister skirts a hazardous course by constantly trying to squeeze strangers.".

"Two years ago, Peggy Drexler, a research psychologist at Cornell University, became a scion of the “non-hugger” set when she published a story for TIME calling for an end to the “hugging arms race.”

"Ironically, the Canadian government officially advises foreigners to avoid hugging its citizens. “Decorum is highly valued and this implies limits on the types of displays of affection,” reads a guide to interacting with Canadians on the website for Global Affairs Canada.

The guide adds, “the greeting is a handshake.”
So many funny women in one place. Neutral, the Carrie Bradshaw comparison is a good one. Unknown, I choked on my soup at the installation of the the funbags comment. Ditto eating H's food as well as her own comment. On fire today, laydeez.
NeutralObserver , I don't know if this skirt was a hunt or not but she rewearing most of her maternity wardrobe lately is definitely odd. And I do think another pregnancy would be announced very soon. It would be the perfect way to danpen down any criticism of her. It would be their Africa baby, and Harry would say that's why he was so worked up in the documentary, because she was pregnant and he was worried.

Although, going by PHs moodwings and emotional ups and downs, anyone would think he is the one who is carrying a baby. Hormonal much?

PS: I'm being such a bitch about her today. I think I'll go get myself another coffee and some carby lunch.
Louise said…
If anyone needs proof that she often wears a wig, look a the difference between her hair today and her hair two days ago when she was wearing a wig. It is a different colour today and does not shine like the 100% nylon wig.
SwampWoman said…
@Jenx, Jen, and Charade: Her fake huggy persona is her trying to "act" like a nice, warm personality that does NOT throw pots of tea at the help. Sadly, she draws on the public Hollywood hugging as seen in magazines for inspiration. Surely she knows that those Hollywood huggers mostly hate each other.

Since I live among normal-ish people (I am in Florida which, like California, tends to attract the crazy people from the colder states AND Canada), I look upon MM's behavior in public appearances as a study in abnormal psychology. I did waste some time pondering on whether she actually thinks that people throw themselves at each and engage in hugs in public interactions at, oh, maybe board meetings or buying groceries or being arraigned in court. I decided then that this is just a PR exercise to counter her reported reputation as a class A bish. "No, the blogs have it all wrong, I met her at an awards ceremony and she HUGGED me. She is so warm and personable!" is probably what her goal is. What probably really happens is that people complain to each other about bronzer stains on their best clothes and how they feel violated.
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