The Royal Family will be arriving shortly for the Royal British Legion Festival of Remembrance at Royal Albert Hall.
On Sunday, the Queen and several other women from the Royal Family will watch from the balcony of Foreign and Commonwealth Office as Prince Charles lays a wreath at the Centotaph to honor the British war dead.
This open post is a place to (respectfully) discuss both events.
On Sunday, the Queen and several other women from the Royal Family will watch from the balcony of Foreign and Commonwealth Office as Prince Charles lays a wreath at the Centotaph to honor the British war dead.
This open post is a place to (respectfully) discuss both events.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7668199/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-join-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-Festival-Remembrance.html
She is trying to behave but they are shoved over to the side it looks like. Behind BJ? Tomorrow will be interesting.
I like the dress itself although I agree that it is "too much chest acreage" (great visual description) like that sweater.
And, I don't think that she really understands how thick and thin belts look on something, let alone on her.
Kate looked really good, as always. She always looks pulled together, not too much of anything. (There is a part of me which kind of hopes she is pregnant again with all the swirling rumors about another M&H baby.)
Ha ha Millicent!
Carrie Symonds, Boris Johnson's partner, has an interesting black coat dress on. The DM has a photo.
I think Prince Harry should feel slighted because he may be 6th in line to the throne but he is sitting behind Prince Andrew who has a front-row seat. And itsn't Meghan sitting behind the PM's girlfriend. That has to burn!
MeMe's neckline is too low and wide for the event. Her poppy is hanging on for dear life to keep from falling into her cleavage.
Sophie looks lovely as always.
Megs always wants to flash her flesh!
Supposedly her dress is 'bespoke' Erdem.That's a British designer which is good, but it's also a pretty pricey label. So given that she was wearing an expensive new coat yesterday and now 'bespoke' Erdem, can we say that the short-lived era of the Duchess of Thriftiness has come to an end?
Spin it how you will, but answer me this: Which member of the royal family is placed most distantly from the queen? The answer is telling.
To me, the neckline is too low and too wide for a memorial event of any kind. Low OR wide would be better. But even this neckline probably wouldn't look quite so bad except that this is a poppy event. Having a tiny poppy perched halfway on bare skin just looks disrespectful--- like "oh yeah, almost forgot. Got to stick this darn thing somewhere."
Heaven help us all if she is “pregnant” again.
The Sussex’s sat right at the back last year and were almost out of sight , I see this year is really no better. Have they been sent to Coventry (?), because Harry does not look in the least bit happy....but neither do Wills or Catherine.
I was going to say it would be interesting to see how the Harkles look on TV... except that none of the shots show them! Just right now they featured a brief shot of Boris Johsson and his piece.... but omitted the Harkles sitting right behind them! However much a certain poster might like to think there's absolutely no slight intended in the seating arrangement, anyone who has a clue as to how the royals operate knows this is nonsense.
I also note that Camilla is there, although she had to skip babysitting the Harkles yesterday, supposedly due to ill health. I don't want to read too much into this as it as a full day later and an indoor event.... but still.....
I noticed Camilla presence, too. Obviously, she did not want to babysit them yesterday. in the cold.
@Mimi
Agreed. MeMe's dress is classic, but the fabric almost looks like upholstery fabric and the low and wide neckline is not appropriate for the event. It would look much better with stockings and black pumps. It amazes me how she continually makes expensive clothes look cheap. She loves to show skin!
All I saw was waistline and skirt. I am appalled that she believes she looks good in that dress.
and no hose (ignoring the memo?).....
and then there is Kate, thank goodness.
I also agree that the average looking poppies worn by both Harry and Meghan, were mere after thoughts.
Also, I think her plastered on grin is because she is under duress. She is being minded, followed, monitored, told what to do and how to do it. I think they have pulled the leash in tighter than her belt. She is not a happy camper.
Would you be referring to me?
Yes, it's a lovely dress. It would look great on Lucille Ball, circa 1955. I don't like her hairstyle but at least it's controlled. Too much cleavage as usual. Everyone else was dressed rather boring but that is the whole point for this event. Meghan just had to stand out, and she does, but not the way she thinks.
As for being pregnant (I refuse to say "again" because reasons), I think after fourteen months or however long it was, the belly touching has become a habit now. If it gets people talking, all the better, but I think she will have a hard time getting pregnant herself, and definitely a hard time sourcing another surrogate with all the shenanigans around the first one. She's just gained weight, as we all do, and can't always hide it with her bizarre wardrobe choices.
And then after teasing the public the harkles won’t confirm or deny anything. They got flack for announcing during eugenies wedding, so they’ll take this opportunity to claim ‘privacy’ and not confirm until they need more press..... or the next set of royal rating rankings come out and they find they’ve dropped to the middle/bottom.
If anyone left, it looks like it was the Duchess of Gloucester.
But I'm not sure anyone did leave---I think the perspective is just odd because of the kind of camera lens used and where the camera was focused. Looked at closely, H&M are seated but are several feet taller than Anne. And in the area around Kate, everyone appears to be smooshed on top of each other.
I had family over, so I only caught the end of the programme and then had to watch again on 'catch up' after they had left.
There's only one thing I can give her credit for tonight and that was for joining in with the singing of one of the hymns, but as an actress I guess it was easy for her to memorise the words.
I didn't realise the words were up on a screen! LOL
Scroll down to "And his defenders, the “defenders of the Monarchy” still haven´t learned and won´t learn their lesson. Still refuse to see the writing on the wall. Hell, it´s been spelled out for them so clearly, time and time again, and yet everyone´s in denial." the paragraphs which follow outline how the Harkle's hijack the focus of every event.
https://scorpiotwentythree.tumblr.com/post/188921399722/harry-was-talking-about-baby-no-2-ugh-i-must
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10313051/meghan-markle-dress-kate-middleton-zara-headband-festival-of-remembrance/
Rubbing salt in our economic wounds ...
"Meghan Markle wows in £25k ruby earrings as Kate Middleton looks elegant in £17 Zara headband at Festival of Remembrance"
Couldn't be shadier! :)
Interesting how Camilla is healthy enough to attend this event, but wasn’t yesterday....
https://www.jessicamccormack.com/gypsets
Scroll down till you see earrings on the last but one row. It's there. Plain as plain.
"Signature GYPSET Heart Hoop Earrings 1cts
£25,700"
And both Victoria Beckham and Meghan have had serious money problems. Beckham's design business would have been bankrupt long ago if it hadn't been for her husband.
Waking up, I can see that much of the coverage of Remembrance Day focuses on Meghan's unfortunate dress and it's go-for-broke neckline.
Perhaps she saw herself as Bette Davis in "Jezebel", shocking all the olds with a daring red dress at a ball where everyone else was wearing white.
Meg's gambit would have worked a lot better if she'd chosen a better dress overall. Supposedly this was beskpoke Erdem. Couldn't Erdem have chosen a style more flattering to Meg's figure?
There are a couple of photos in the DM article where M&H are talking to a man. She is looking at the man with the same adoring face she uses for Harry. The look is identical. So much for the look of love! Does Meghan even know what is real about her and what is manufactured for effect?
No PDA for the last few public appearances? Those two don't listen to anyone so I wonder why?
The Queen looked lovely.
The odd thing is how her weight seems to go up and down dramatically in a short period of time. She looked slim in the red v-neck sweater and leather skirt she wore recently. I recall someone described her as anorexic in Australia on tour. Maybe the heavy material of her dress tonight made her appear to have put on weight?
In comparison she looked so well-put together on Suits. It's a shame she does not use one of the stylists from the show.
The low and wide neckline could have been a good example of "give her enough rope" from the Palace's side. They must have known it would offend even casual Royal watchers.
It makes her chest look huge and flat like a billboard. YOUR MESSAGE HERE. New frontiers in merching.
I very much doubt Meghan will still be around when Charles becomes king.
It's not so much her waistline that makes me suspect she might be pregnant - she did look quite slim in the Hugo Boss leather skirt at the Windsor event. It's the belly touching and hints through 'sources' that they're ready for baby number 2 and that she'd prefer to give birth in America. But who knows? This is Meghan and she's well aware that
'bump watch' is a great way to keep media attention on her, even on the most solemn day of hte royal calendar. Classy eh?
However, I don't think she gets the point t or the sentiment behind remambrance week. In her mind it's time to wear black look super sombre, make sad eyes and basically be a wow factor in black. The empathy gene is tragically lacking in her. And so we see her making a lame attenmp to have a pop of colour on the ginor ous black outfit with navy (hat earlier and now shoes) and Ruby earrings. In her mind it's also symbolic of ww2 era so she wears a vintage look. But sadly, it's more than just the look. And so mm fails.
IMO short-waisted, wide-waisted Meghan never looks good in gathered full- skirted, shirtwaist styles, especially those with a thick belt. Tied "bathrobe" style coats aren't her friend either. She aways looks like a stuffed sausage with those styles although last night was worse than usual. I don't know if she gets her short waist from Doria (we don't see Doria wearing shirtwaists with big belts or coats prominently tied up at the waist) but M's stocky shape seems to come from the Markle side. She could be pregnant but it was only last week she wore a leather pencil skirt with a tucked-in top.
Kate has a long waist (as does Carole Middleton) and a few years back sometimes Kate's non-bespoke clothes with a set-in waist looked like they shrunk because the waist hit above her waist. It just a matter of dressing for one's body type/shape. Most of us learn to do that by the time we have reached our late 30s. Meghan either hasn't learned or is deliberately choosing unflattering styles. (Why designers go along with her is beyond me.)
I don't disagree with anything you've said. However, I think we have to bear in mind how utterly delusional Meghan is. We see Sarah Ferguson in her future, but she likely thinks she is so much more clever and savvy than her - and she probably is in some ways. She thinks she can do much better than looking appropriately solemn or interested at dull (in her mind) royal events. If Harry gets in the way of her plans, he will be Markled without a thought.
Also, if I'm correct in thinking her goal is to decamp for Los Angleles sooner rather than later, I really don't see Harry lasting there too long. I just do not think they are compatible in the long or even medium term. I doubt she could ever find happiness with anyone in fact, and maybe the same is true for Harry.
She wasn't on the '3 queens' balcony with HM, Camilla and Kate, and instead was between Sophie and Anne's husband. But that was to be expected.
Kate, I feel, has looked tired and drawn in the past few weeks. I can't imagine what it has been like having to live so close to that drama. May be the end really is hear.
The heart earrings, bathrobe, belt and hat are up on Meghans Mirror. Absolutely no shame.
The RF all look good and respectful though i imagine only the older generation (the queen) who lived through the war and blitzkerg really understand the meaning. I think HRH was an driver during the war.
Comment on yesterdays MM earrings. 25,000 pounds for those cheap frail looking earrings? You’ve got to be kidding. Must be on loan and she must be merching them cause they’re not worth more than $500.00.
It took me years to understand that I could not always wear certain styles (although, like Smirkle, I tried and failed). Unless the dress is bespoke, a waist on a dress doesn't fall in the right place and makes me look thick in the middle, especially with a belt.
The answer is shift style dresses (1960's style) with no defined waist, or separates . (Which is why today's coat works)
The dress that Smirkle wore last night is similar to the one that she wore to the Lion King (minus the portrait collar), and that was a miss as well.
An if ever one needed proof that Smirkle was wearing a push up bra while in South Africa, this dress is it. Despite the chest acreage, there are no defined breast mounds as was so evident in SA. Which makes one wonder what was the point of so much breast amplification in SA.
Kate’s fascinator was OK, i’m not a fan of fascinators, i think they’re silly.
I think it makes her look a little sterner, almost creula-de-vil-ish. But Kate always looks great.
I, too, am short waisted, but busty, and it is tough to dress properly. My belts seem to end up close to bust level. But with her resources i would be using anyone and anything to look stylish and proportioned. Does she not own a mirror or what.
Kate has had the same nanny since George was 8 months.
Will MM now drop Serena as a friend for blabbing to the press about her like she did her father?
That’s what really annoys me about MM, the way she treated her dad, but her hollyweird celeb friends are allowed to gossip about her to the press. total hypocrite!
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/364932376034045003/visual-search/?cropSource=6&h=435&w=272&x=10&y=10
If Smirkle is so strong, then how to explain her comments in the pity party documentary?
Either she is "just existing" or she is strong.
Either she can't "do that stiff upper lip thing" or she is strong.
Make up your mind, Sunshine. If she is strong, then why should we pity her?
The belted coats have to go, as do the belted voluminous dresses. I’m personally following a blog in an effort to up my fashion game and a piece of advice is to “pursue style, not fashion”. That in a nutshell is MM’ s biggest problem I think, she is merching whatever is the latest (or last season’s) fashion instead of developing her own personal style. She’s all over the place. I’m surprised, because her icons, Hepburn, Carolyn Bissette Kennedy, and Diana in her later years had very definite personal style.
Ok, now for the REAL news of the day. William. I watched video of his exit from the cenotaph - he beetled it out of there without even a look leaving Andrew and Harry in his dust. William is done with the pair of them.
Re: the Serena article about the NYC visit including Archie
Too young to go visit the Queen (oops)?
Or when did Serena fit in the time to see Archie? I figure that it was at least a party of three if he really visited NYC: M, the nanny and the baby. Supposedly not at the we didn't win party.
Where did they all stay? and that no one, doormen, drivers, someone saw them or saw her other than yoga or the game?
How odd then and now that she toted the baby along (allegedly), even odder.
(the snarky side asks if there were carbon offsets since it was no longer just her traveling).
Blogger Maggie said...
@Ava C - what do you mean by "an emotionally distant mother-in-law? Diana is long dead.
Can't get more emotionally distant than that!
(re: Meg's hat)
Indeed, Serena has already commented on the fact that the baby was not in New York. With all the fibbing, they can't keep their stories straight.
It is interesting though as we hadn't heard a word from Serena about her 'friend' in some time. And she pops up to utter a blatant and direct contradiction of what she said on record at the time? Excrutiating. But what's in in for her? It's not 'friendship' as we know they're not really friends. Meghan was not even invited to Serena's wedding or baby shower back in 2017. Is Serena represented by SS perchance?
It’s all very strange.
She also said due to the previous critisms, MM stayed at a private residence, and took commercial flights. I found the commercial flights part strange because wouldn’t someone have noticed MM, a baby, nanny, and securtiy on a commercial flight? Even in first class, someone would have gotten a picture or posted it
But my question is: Why bring all of this up again now? The whole 'baby shower' and private jet nonsense is months ago and few really care anymore. Plus, the very fact that she COULD travel to and stay in New York incognito in fact makes it even more obvious that the 'baby shower' was staged precisely in order to garner maximum publicity. Hotels which cater to the very rich pride themselves on their absolute discretion, so there's no way she couldn't have done the daft 'baby shower' privately had she so desired.
And for what it's worth, I don't believe for a second that Archie accompanied her. She'd have been sure to let us know back in Sep if he had.
"Serena Williams thanks Meghan Markle for watching her US Open match even though it meant leaving Archie - and says she 'doesn't know' if she could've done it when her baby daughter was that age"
Maybe Serena owes Smirkle for getting her to accept that horrible blazer from Serena's clothing line on the Australia tour.
Yes I think it's some kind of quid pro quo. It's obvious what's in it for Meghan - she gets to boast of a 'friendship' with a huge sports star who also happens to be black, which is good for her image. As for Serena, her playing career is almost at an end, and she's now promoting her sportswear line, so a 'friendship' with Meghan offers good merching possibilities. It's all a bit sad if you ask me. Someone with all her money, massive success, a beautiful daughter and a loving husband and she still can't stand aloof from all this tackiness?
@On the Bayou, me too!
TCD?
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/188950705444/epic-scarfing#notes
To be fair, from the photos I have seen at last night’s event Ms. Markle was nicely put together and wasn’t flashing the girls like she had the previous evening. The hat was a little overwhelming and it we had another edition of Diana cosplay 1004.4, but I would far rather have her imitate Diana and be appropriately attired than not. Again, with the belt. Sigh. Belts are not your friend, Ms. Markle. Say that to yourself twenty times before you go to sleep at night.
I’ve just started lurking. Interesting stuff.
Can you imagine the temper tantrum if this actually happens?
"I would love to be a fly on the wall when the event is over and they step off the balcony. Do you think they all ignore Meghan? I can imagine her just standing there not knowing where to go while everyone else is catching up and exchanging pleasantries. I hope they make it as awkward for her as possible.
Sophie must have got the ROYAL MEMO... because after the National Anthem is played, Sophie turns to Meghan and either says "Alright?" or "OK? "and Meghan replies "Yes" and then she nods to Tim Laurence and they turn to walk off the balcony.
So, Sparkles can't complain now that no one asks if she's OK!!!
At approx 2.32 in this video
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2045682/Video-Meghan-Markle-Duchess-Wessex-pay-respects.html
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As an aside, the tall grey haired chap that was standing behind them both at Westminster Abbey on Thursday and was watching Meghan like a hawk, also ordered Harry "GO" before he set off walking to plant his cross.
I noticed him straight away at the event last night at the Royal Albert Hall when they first entered the building and he's the one that Meghan gave her doe-eyed look to.
I'm starting to wonder if he's their minder!? (as in 'mind how you go' cos I'm watching!!)
She is not the focus.
She does not get to give a speech.
It definitely doesn't fit her brand of "woke" IG activities.
She is amongst other royals and they "outrank" her.
I believe the SW story launched in the DM today was her revenge.
Glowworm
But I still don't see why SS would decide to refocus attention on that trip from two months ago now, regardless of what was done with the magical baby. Flying to NYC from London to watch a tennis match is still frivolous. It's not as though Serena's family wasn't there to support her. And commercial flight or not, it's still a hypocritical thing to do while telling us we need to be concerned about "every blade of grass" and need to make environmentally friendly travel decisions. (Personally, I doubt she flew commercial if the decision was made on short notice after Serena advanced to the finals.)
I wonder if SS is concerned about people wondering if something else was going on during that trip. We've certainly discussed some possibilities here. Or @CookieShark could be right she was mad veterans and those killed in action were getting attention.
In fact, Smirkle's entire outfit resembles the outfit that Diana wore, including belted black coat.
https://katemiddletonstyle.org/iraq-afghanistan-memorial/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5178965/Duchess-Cambridge-dresses-black-Grenfell-service.html
She's also worn big hats to the Remembrance events.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/style/1042103/Kate-Middleton-Princess-Diana-latest-news-pictures/amp
This one was big and maybe a little odd for the event.
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/11/kate-middelton-wears-dolce-and-gabbana-to-royal-remembrance-day
There are only so many hats/styles in the world and they are all just recirculated.
You are too kind....you don't name the obvious dummy. lol
Thank you for putting a name to the face. Explains everything!
The CB commenters are insane. I mean that literally. Here is a quote from one of the 'articles' about last night's 'racist' seating arrangements:
"I know how some go on and on about how dumb prince Harry is but IMVHO, prince Harry is 10x smarter that prince William and both brothers know it. William will not always be jealous of Harry’s smarts but he will also always be jelous of Harry’s accomplishments, personality, charisma, looks and popularity. That’s why regardless of how much William stands to inherit, he will always pale in comparison to Harry in the above mentioned. William can have all the money in the world but he will always be the Cain to Harry’s Abel and that kills him."
Harry's "accomplishments, personality, charisma, looks and popularity"? What 'accomplishments'? Scraping 2 A levels and dropping out of the army? Charisma? Looks? They are unintentionally hilarious.
The inevitable divorce is going to hit those lunatics HARD. It's going to be worse even than Brangelina. And just as Brad Pitt turned from angel to devil overnight for them, so too Harry the Prince of Wokeness will be rediscovered as the intellectually and emotionally stunted man-child we've always really known him to be. Then again, intellectually and emotionally stunted would be quite appropriate for the CB gang. Even though they're theoretically adult - often middle aged - women, they act like dizzy 15 year olds.
I want to hear other people’s thoughts! The video is at TCD tumblr.
I will avoid that site for sure because I just my 'arse' handed to me by the horrid posters at Lipstick Alley. Some seem really proud of the racist things they say. All I did was simply disagree on a couple of the comments about Meghan and stand up for Kate separately. Whew, one poster started stalking my posts and 'downvoted' me like 80 times in less than 15 minutes!
SW comments are interesting & contradictory. After months of silence suddenly she's talking about MM again? PR friendship yes, but why now? I think it is connected to the California move as why bring this old news up now?
Does anyone else feel that once M&H set up in California there will be a flood of stories/interviews/leaks about them? Sanctioned of course by MM or their PR team. The second documentary & Harry's working with Oprah? The (possible)reunion with her father? What other projects are they working on?
As ever, everything is not what it seems.
My first impression is that definitely William is 'hot-footing it' out of there! I interpret Camillia as shooting a knowning glance, a sly glance of approval. I was thinking Camillia was looking at Kate (who does not seem to catch Camilla's look) to wink* wink* see her reaction.
I agree I think Catherine totally missed Camilla's look, too. it was priceless. I also think that Wills power walked away from PH and PA. My impression is that he does not want to be seen as involved with the controversy associated with either one of them.
I also saw a picture of Diana on another site with an outfit that was virtually identical to what Megs had on today.
Catherine was stunning and regal in her military-inspired outfit.