Prince Philip has been hospitalized, just a few days before Christmas. He reportedly walked into the hospital, and is being treated for a "pre-existing condition."
Of course, we all hope Philip will recover and go on to enjoy Christmas with his family - but he is 98 years old.
What do you think this means for the Royal Family in general and the Sussexes in particular?
Of course, we all hope Philip will recover and go on to enjoy Christmas with his family - but he is 98 years old.
What do you think this means for the Royal Family in general and the Sussexes in particular?
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George mixing what looks like the mince mix for mince pies, Charles, William and The Queen looking on with big smiles on their faces. A Christmas tree in the background. A final photo of the monarch and heirs with a bunch of people (staff, some charity?) posing in front of the Christmas tree and the table with the bowls of fruit mix in the foreground.
I guess Her Maj has decided that the Mary Berry way is the one to save the monarchy, and a clear sign of who is important (Nutty, you would be better at explaining the message in this!)! I wonder how this will affect the Sussexes?
By the way, the pictures are cute, and I can't find an article or IG post as a source, but the photos are real.
>>>A palace statement read: “‘The Duke of Edinburgh travelled from Norfolk this morning to the King Edward VII Hospital in London for observation and treatment in relation to a pre-existing condition.
“The admission is a precautionary measure, on the advice of His Royal Highness’s doctor.”<<<
I know that you posed the question to Nutty, but I don't think that this would have any positive or negative bearing on the Smarkles, as they are not directly in line.
Also,
I think Elle's suggestion that perhaps they were captured by a mobile phone - or Meg was captured by a mobile phone together with Markus Anderson - and therefore turned off their ability to be tagged is a good one. Who knows, she could have had her arm around him in a friendly/more than friendly way...
I'll just snark her with this:
She's a self-confessed "hugger" and it would be interesting, if this is the reason for the tagging freeze, to know what or whom she was "hugging".
I do think that the timing of the release re the family location linked with the tagging cease-and-desist order are linked, but the BRF could also be involved in that. There are a number of scenarios possible.
@Staurolit, "traditionally", true, but I find that there are other factors that play in as well. I also subscribe to the rule of three on that point. In addition, I believe it's important to hit significant points in the natal directly with a combo of close and major aspects. But, that said, I only look at my own charts and those of a few friends, important events in retrospect, and (okay, weird) death charts. Also, I'm not a big fan of predictive astrology (those sometimes it is dead on). I see that as a money-maker and somewhat dangerous. I'll shut up now :)
Also, re Santa Harry: Nuttiers, that's not proof of living, that's proof of just existing
Santa Harry looks like he's answering the important question: how much blow and how much dope can one person fit into a six-week "break".
A pre existing condition could be so many things.
I think that Harry's skin looks good and his eyes look alert and clear. All in all, he looks happier/healthier than he has for months.
So, that leads me to a question: what kind of counselling and self-examination goes on in rehab? Do you think that there would be a chance that his relationship with his family and with his wife would be talked about? Would that possibly lead to his seeing how unhealthy an influence she is? Wishful thinking on my part probably, but I do wonder if any of that kind of clarity usually comes to someone in rehab.
>>>So, that leads me to a question: what kind of counseling and self-examination goes on in rehab? Do you think that there would be a chance that his relationship with his family and with his wife would be talked about? Would that possibly lead to his seeing how unhealthy an influence she is?<<<
I can only recount that I met a person who said they had recently gotten of rehab (court-ordered 6 months) and in the initial month the facility would not let her even call her family. Counseling focuses on the patient as to why they do drugs, meaning causation factors be it depression, stress etc... and the counseling will involve discussing any support system (like family). I would think family counseling and/or involvement is part of the process because it may be family issues could be a precipitating factor and could conversely be a part of the solution.
It sounds extremely like Meghan. There are several grammatical errors and it includes a dig at the UK. That's generally her calling card.
I don't know about rehab, but I do know from personal experience that the only way one changes and grows in life is when forced and then the conscious choice to follow the path is made. Maybe PH is to that point, maybe not. I cannot imagine that his family, after seeing him stumble onto stage in SA and break down later, did not intervene and force some changes behind the scene.
Likewise, it's especially hard to imagine a scenario where Rach willingly goes to spend family time alone in a cabin in the woods when she could shamelessly sashay the merde out of BRF Christmas. I don't think she cares whether they like her or not if it would afford her the opportunity to interpretive dance wearing finger cymbals or whatever other nonsense she could dream up to literally and/or figuratively push the Cambridge children out stage right. But that's just me and I'm jaded and cynical ever since Reese stole my spotlight ;)
I’m not sure the statement should have said, “the welcoming people of Canada, not that all the English people aren’t welcoming....”
It may just mean what it says. Anyone who has been to Canada knows Canadians (the ones I met anyway) are super friendly and very welcoming, wanting to insure you have a great time in their country.
On the other hand, look at the comments from Brits and maybe it was a dig, IDK 🤷🏼♀️ Kinda like the maple leaf really was to give a Canada hint in their thanksgiving IG.
https://jaynescottages.com/2016/05/celebrities-summer-muskoka/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7817263/Royal-Family-hoping-Prince-Philip-return-Sandringham-Christmas.html
https://people.com/royals/queen-elizabeth-prince-charles-prince-william-prince-george-prepare-christmas-pudding/
In my opinion, that style of clothing is a bit too babyish for him.
If I catch a photo of Meg down at the local Burger King, I could post it on my own account, but I have very few followers on Instagram.
By tagging it, I allow anyone who follows @sussexroyal to find it.
Meg turned off that option. She wants to make it harder for random photos of her to gain attention.
The location of those random photos might also disclose where she is.
@Elle, I totally could see that, she had the Santa suit from Deal or No Deal!! Hilarious!
I've seen the word "tagging" used in different ways on various sites. On Instagram, does tagging refer to the embedding of the name of the person into the photo and does the tag have to include "@sussexroyal"? If the insta tag alert is turned on, what does the actual alert consist of?
Are there other ways to tag stray "Burger King" photos of Meg outside of instagram in order to alert other groups of followers such as the Markle groups both pro and con on facebook, tumbler and twitter?
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He looks like he is concentrating on doing a good job of mixing the pudding.
The others look to be having a good time watching him.. by the way that Charles and the Queen are laughing, it looks like something funny just happened or a humorous remark made, but George is only thinking about the pudding.
Since this is my only "social media" besides FB, which I never post anything too, I don't get the tagging either??? Seems like something teenagers worry about.
https://twitter.com/PurpleMartin77/status/1208488851091730433
Have to post something about royals, or Nutty will delete me, & quite rightly.
First, I'm very sorry that Prince Philip is ailing. He's tough, charismatic & funny, & one of the reasons I think Harry could be a Hewitt by-blow. Harry doesn't have anything like his spine. We have to rememember, however, that few men even reach the age of 98, especially men who have had the eventful lives that Philip has had. He's certainly had his share of tragedy & loss, & nary a word of complaint or self pity, unlike some we know.
Re: Tagging. Someone on TCD suggested that the Harkles have been forced to turn off the tagging feature on their Instagram account to rein in Megs merching. It does suprise me that someone with Meg's exhibitionist tendencies would reduce the public's access to her. Avoiding exposure doesn't seem to be in her DNA, & it's not very Hollywood. One of my kids was recently at a Christmas party thrown by some of our cousins. As she put it, 'Scarlett Johansson was there for some reason.' My daughter was embarassed for Johansson when Scarlett's underwear showed briefly while she was bending over to reach her daughter, & some men were olgling her. My daughter could have snapped her photo & tagged it & put it on Instagram & it would have been shared with all of Johansson's followers. I just looked at Johansson's Instagram account. I don't think she would have cared. I doubt Megs would have cared either. Look at her SA photo collection, & that was a royal tour. I'm just astonished that Megs still has the moolah to get press of any kind still. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if she isn't laying plans for another 'fakeancy!' She's a tough one, & seems to have all the chutzpah that poor Harry lacks. She'll never have Prince Philip's class though, & sadly neither will Harry.
Maybe it was just one more ploy to try and get someone, anyone at all to care about their undisclosed location abroad lol. It's rather pathetic that their "we're not telling where we are" was met with a lackluster "whatevs" by the few who even bothered to respond. Rach can't live without the attention and she seems to be stuck in a cable TV low-rent "Chad" Christmas skit. (For those who don't know "Chad", it's an SNL skit and I'm specifically thinking of the recent JLo one.)
The "stop the merching" theory is another fav (and the BRF slapping them down indirectly just like the Sandringham invitation bit), and it would line up nicely with calling Jennifer Meyers(?) out, too.
Unfortunately, I have had quite a few friends/fam with addiction problems, and I have to say that this is not always true:
In my experience with drug addicts (family, unfortunately) they could hardly string together a coherent sentence and could not focus their eyes on you for one second.
Some are quite adept at hiding it and/or pulling it together during times of sobriety, enough to throw off the trail. And maybe it's just me, but PH didn't seem terribly eloquent. BUT to be fair, I went and watched it again, with and without sound, and he just doesn't look confident and happy to me. I see a lot of blinking and twitching and leaning away. Of course, the fact that he looks like he slept in that Santa suit with someone on top of him didn't help, either.
I forgot to mention the photos I saw were on Skippy's blog, not the site you referenced.
But if it WAS a fake, why do such a crappy job with the other details that would have been easy to make look good like the background (or rather the lack of one), the weird-fitting gloves... Why?
Elle, I watched it too without sound and really noticed the blinking and some "movement". I often use that pick up body language I would miss otherwise.
Royal Fan, thank you for the thoughts on PP.
At that age, it can go from in control to wildly out of control in a twinkle ... which makes me really question if staying in Canada is a good idea. That's a long way away even flying. And, the optics are bad before you can layer on history (about PH and not a good goodby to his mother).
Maybe MM might not think so but Harry has a better understanding of what this all means within the family (spoken and unspoken expectations).
(Goes back to eating Christmas candy instead of cookies)
So, can I have some of that candy, please? I like to eat a balanced diet and the candy would offset the ice-cream cake quite nicely.
The more I think about it, the more I consider the Harry Santa video to be one of those sleight of hand things that magicians do to distract attention from what their other hand is doing.
The royal family is wise to pull this off of their YouTube channel because this is a very very bad look for them. By virtue of it being on their official YouTube channel - the medium through which they collectively communicate with the rest of the world, the medium through which they showcase the best of their contribution to the betterment of the world, by virtue of it being there it reflects on them. And this is a very very bad look for the British royals. Not because Harry may or may not be stoned, not because he may or may not be in rehab, not just because he may or may not have been forced to do this. This video, the very existeniof it is bad because it's bad quality. It's shoddy. It's childish. Because it's subtly brandishing the dead mother I'm so alone card. It's bad because Harry looks unprepared, unconfident, uniterested, unclean yet again. It looks like there was no thought out into making this slapdash video, the clothes don't fit, the fake hair and beard are just hanging there, there is no light energy in Harry's demeanor, the background is shoddy, they could have done such a good job with this one. It's pretty easy actually but it's very drunk home video type vibes cheapen the message. And honest I, no kid, no party needs such a half hearted horror message via video through one of their royal patrons. Which kid is going to go home and tell their parents they enjoyed it? What parent attending that party is going to watch this and feel overjoyed and supported via THIS particular message?
I'm pretty sure that the video was uploaded by the Sussex staff. Or some random intern far too low on the totem pole to know better. The moment someone senior watched that they knew it's bad and took it off. I'm pretty sure the Queen, Charles, Willi and Kate's jaws collectively dropped to the ground with a loud resounding thud. The Queen might have even screamed like a banshee for once in her life and ordered to do it herself.
This video is the very reason the BRF ate now looking for a social media expert to run their channel. They'll be showing this to the candidates and demanding that they're present a plan to counter such monstrosities.
Family is GREATLY talked about, in group and in one on one counseling. No secrets are kept, by the time one enters rehab, it’s the bottom.
Many of my groups focused on toxic family relationships. We shared everything, all the awful horrible painful things. Counselors provide support to get out of bad situations.
The drug addicts in my groups were masters at appearing normal...well, we all were. By the time cracks show publicly, it’s the rock bottom. I have so many friends who say they had no idea.
However, once rehab is done (it’s a wonderful safe bubble of love and friendship), many return to the past influences.
A girl in my group died recently (sadly, many do....addiction kills) and to the end she would look you in the eye and say she was clean. She died in a Walgreens bathroom of an overdose.
Addiction is complicated and is always, always there.
It makes us susceptible to narcissists. I was, horrible relationship for 8 years that I let steal my soul. Same with many in my group.
All the therapy in the world won’t work if the addict returns to the old way of life. We leave the bubble so hopeful and strong. But if real life doesn’t change, rehab is nothing.
Harry looks good because we all do after rehab. But if his situation doesn’t change (and how can it, living in the public eye), he will fail. Sad but true.
I’ve known he was an addict for a long time. So many physical “tells”. I just don’t see how he can make enough changes to succeed.
Hygiene is a big thing to go in addiction. Not showering, wearing dirty clothes, old shoes, that’s a hallmark of an addict. At Hazelden, we were required to shower daily. It was a big deal for many. Several of my drug addict friends at rehab hadn’t showered regularly, maybe once a week.
Most addicts I know are “on”. Full of charisma, laughter, fun. On the outside. The inside is a black tangle of struggle. But we go on. As an alcoholic, I drank late into the night but was ON for work early the next morning. It kills our soul, running on empty like that. It’s a weird juxtaposition, acting like life is great but dying on the inside. I see this in Harry.
I hope, for him, that he really is in rehab. And that he’s strong enough to make changes. But I’m not hopeful. Sorry, I’m jaded from knowing so many addicts.
It is interesting that you mention being vulnerable to narcissists. Without getting off track, just in terms of PH and Rach, is that what you see here? I'm curious to know your perspective since it sounds like you've experienced both pieces. What were Harry's physical "tells". Would you share what some of those were/are? If you don't feel okay with elaborating, no offense taken. I would just like to understand more.
I think HnM did this together. Mm probably came up with the idea of Having playing santa, just like she came up with the extremely humanitarian idea of writing messages of encouragement to sex workers on Bananas of all things. The charity might have asked Harry to do a message, maybe even a video, and Mm said 'Oh I know, why don't you dress up santa?!'.
As to why she isn't in it? Well, because even she knows it's bad. It's bad quality, Harry looks dishelved at the very least and high as an effing kite for all to see. So there is no way she would be in it or be so obviously associated with it. She is smart enough to distance herself from.this nonsense. Let harriget all the flak. Let people speculate whether he is drunk or stoned or unwashed for days. Let them see what a mess he is. Let him look stupid.
She has been planning his downfall for a while after all. All the direct criticism is about him. He is not with his family. He is not visiting his 98 year old sick grandfather in the hospital. He has forsaken any and all family traditions. The documentary was also very telling, she threw him u der the bus with her noone asks me if I'm ok remark. And how her frineiwarned her she shouldn't marry him but she did it because she lovi him so much and all she got in terurtwas heartbreak and tears. With this video she is effectively throwing him under the bus again.
I guess every generation needs a prime screwup and waster; Edward VIII; Margaret; Andrew, Now Harry. Viewing pictures of Diana with her boys now is pretty instructive… And nearly every photo I can find, she’s got her arm draped over Harry or he’s sitting on her lap even at older ages. In family portraits when the boys were small, Charles is almost always holding William and Diana Harry. Of course Harry was her baby, and there are always running in the background the subtle optics of the heir and spare favoritism That is royal tradition, not just with the Waleses. But in retrospect, it’s a harbinger of things to come. Harry was always primed to struggle more with the loss of his Mum. Is it a real shock that he’s coping less well than William? I believe William grieve just as much, and still does, but he has his role and the love of a good woman to channel his loss until productive channels. Harry has neither the purpose of a clearly defined role, nor the uplifting love and support of a stable and healthy marriage. Maybe if he were still in his mid-20s, I would feel more hopeful for his successful sobriety and Finding a place in life where he can be content and himself. I don’t want to be a doomsayer at Christmas, but I am no longer confident That Harry can turn his downward spiral around. Even if he ever succeeds in disentangling himself from Meghan And getting clean, I think the damage between the brothers has gone too far for repair. Haz will always be a relapse waiting to happen.
As for Rach directing, @Alice, I am not so sure. If he fails, she fails bigger, badder, faster. She is nothing without him, and while she is not that she's much with him, either, he's the best she's got. She has no talent. She has no power in Hollywood. Her famous friends are silent, and she is at death-knell age for a career that doesn't require a suitcase and/or a pole (I'll stop there for those with delicate sensibilities lol). And if she thinks she can throw PH under the bus, well, bad news Rach, the BRF has a bigger bus, and something tells me that they'll use it with glee.
I have said all along that they were letting Rach blow herself up. It's taken awhile, but this is her one big success: ruining her one big success with amazing speed. I do not see her recovering from this. And I do think that the BRF played her with her own words.
@Hikari, because it's the holiday season and I love a happy ending, I'm going to think that maybe there is still hope for Harry. He does have people who love him, and they will use all their resources to help him, I think, if he decides he wants help. So, I'm going to be the optimist here and see a happy ending for him.
Very astute comments. Two years on from their engagement, harry is most definitely out of the love bombing phase, and in the Devaluation phase from the Narc who pledged to love and honor him for life just 18 short months ago. I think that phase was already underway the minute she got her big Wedding Show. Harry’s current pitiful condition is the result. Yet, as the member of the Sussex duo who has known Philip for more than two years, who is his blood and who used to be exceptionally close to his grandfather, at least so we were led to believe, Harry deserves the brunt of the criticism for not visiting his grandfather. Philip made him captain of the royal Marines, and look at how he repaid that favor. It’s tempting to absolve Harry for his complicity in The current situation by saying that hapless Haz is under the spell of an Uber co trolling Narc... I think now, as often as not, Harry uses Meg as an excuse to get out of doing anything he doesn’t want to do as often as she uses him. Ergo, he never had any intention of going to the boring memorial concert in Deal. His lack of assertiveness with her is a bit of a mystery: can’t? Or won’t? That said, Harry may not Have the physical autonomy to fly to his grandfather side right now even if he wants to. I hope he gets himself sorted out before it’s too late for a meaningful goodbye with his grandad.
Tarot readers (the good, reliable ones) see that the relationship between Harry and Meghan is not karmic (if one sees karma as destiny) and that by grabbing at it and defying destiny, Meghan will pay dearly. However, those who see karma as that which pushes our buttons and gives us an opportunity to learn and grow and become our best authentic selves, then it definitely is a karmic relationship. What we are seeing now, and have been seeing for a while, is Haz and Rach bringing out the worst in each other, and they have not reached rock bottom yet.
Hikari, my research on and experience of a narc confirms what you say about devaluing being there from the beginning (I recognise the signs). If you love someone, you do not put them in situations (for you) where they make an almighty fool of themselves (that statement he put out about her being harassed and racial media reports was astonishing, in its wording, accusations and timing, but it outed the relationship for Rach, who had been planting hints all over the place, and it was a taste of how easily she could control him). Can it get worse than the Santa video? I cringe at the thought!
As for recovery from all this train wreck, tarot readers see divorce, rock bottom for Harry, and an opportunity for them both to go on and live authentic and happy lives (remarriage for both, and more children for Harry). Actually, a woman keeps popping up in readings as someone who Harry is confiding in (probably not romantic) and she will be there to help him recover if he is prepared to do the hard work (will probably disappear for a while). However, I know toxic relationships that persist and there never is recovery - just enabling. What route they take depends on how useful the monarchy is for Rach, and if Her Maj and senior royals are going to tighten control, which just may be the push for her to leave. I think that maybe that PR piece about preparing Christmas puddings (not mince pies!) is a sign that Her Maj is going to make changes (supported and counselled by Charles and Harry) and that it is going to be difficult for Rach to do whatever she wants and use the monarchy as she has been doing.
I just can't understand how HM could approve somebody like this woman and endorse her with solo engagement and special attention. If she had been deceived and or partially informed it means she has lost control and is being manipulated.
If she hasn't been deceived and chose to indulge Harry I fully understand why Andrew turned how he did. In both cases I am truly sorry.
I don't know how to call them. Certainly not art.
I worry about whether Harry has the strength.
You mention:
Family is GREATLY talked about, in group and in one on one counseling. No secrets are kept, by the time one enters rehab, it’s the bottom. Many of my groups focused on toxic family relationships. We shared everything, all the awful horrible painful things.
One has to wonder - how would Harry be able to talk about his family relationships in a group setting? I understand that everyone in the group has probably signed an NDA, but when it comes to the Royals, information tends to leak out. They are privacy-obsessed for a reason.
I would imagine that some of the value of group settings is that the participants can see that the addiction has no gender, color or social class. That said, putting Harry together with non-aristocrats would seem to be asking for trouble. If I'm broke and selling a bit of info about Harry is going to help me feed my family or stay in my home, I'm probably going to sell that info, NDA or no NDA. Particularly if I relapse.
Also, re: Harry not rushing back to the UK due to Philip's illness: it's possible that Philip was the one who put him in rehab, or at least insisted that he go. Who else in the family has the power to do that? His dithering father? His brother? His grandmother, who likes to stick her head in the sand and avoid difficult conversations?
It could be that Philip personally told Harry not to leave rehab (and/or his current hiding place).
I am still perplexed why the Royal Family Channel pulled his Santa video. I saved it to my Watch Later Tab so I can still see the stats before it got pulled:
- 5 views
- 69 thumbs up
- 54 thumbs down
- Comments are turned off
- The uploader has not made the video available
"But someone at Scottie's Little Soldiers must have green-lighted it, right? Or was it streaming live?"
I don't know that people in charge of most charities are willing to tell royals what they think. I can't imagine Smart Works administrators liked having Meghan criticize their on-hand stock as ugly/mismatched and by extension criticize their donors, for example. And I doubt the charity providing meals for sex workers thought writing encouraging messages on phallic fruit was a good idea.
So I don't think we can conclude the video (as it was done) was "approved by" Scottie's Little Soldiers.
I do agree with @Elle there is a lack of central control. But that's been true for many many years. For example, remember back when people were calling William "work-shy" (and he kind of was IMO when he claimed royal work kept him from doing his air ambulance work and his air ambulance work kept him from doing royal events. So supposedly he did little of either. KP then tried to say civil air regs said he had to "rest" when not flying but that wasn't true and it turned into a big mess.) Defenders said "but the Queen gives him all his assignments so she must be happy." So far as I know it is not true HM routinely gives out daily assignments (any more than it's true the Queen personally has to "inspect and approve" the clothes royal women will wear for official events.) Patronages and tours are assigned and when Will does an investiture for the Queen, that's assigned but
each royal keeps his/her own calendar. And the BP has said that on multiple occasions.
What changed changed with Will and Harry before either married. Allowing them to have their own KP communications office many years ago was unusual.
https://thecrownsofbritain.home.blog/
This is what the royals are about. Not about whiny self-pity, merching, celeb name-dropping and shallow wokeness. We can get that from any number of other wannabes. And they don't expect us to pay for them.
@meowwwww thank you for sharing your story.
I hope what we have been seeing is Harry hitting bottom. But I don't think Meghan is going to let him go. Even more than Archie, Harry is her entre into a world she has no access to without him. And the weaker he feels, the more he clings to her for support. She has totally isolated him. And as Meoww said, unless his living situation changes, he will not remain clean and sober.
There is a video snippet out there (and of course I can't find it now!) Of Harry, William and Kate. It looks like a sporting event. William is chatting away, but Harry is clearly in a major snit, pouting with his arms crossed while Kate and another man try to talk him down. Harry seems so petulant, and I am so surprised he would act like a giant baby where he could be (and was) photograpphed. Does anyone know the story behind that?
Finally, wasn't Meg photographed a few months ago with a dishy communications guy.... Christian something? I thought he was the new "chief".
I think it must be very difficult.
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Kate has looked a bit tired....baby?
The Sussexes would plotz for sure!
Meghan.
I’ve never been in a relationship with one but have had several employees and the best thing to do is get them to think it’s best if they leave you. Best to do it in a non-toxic way as well. Make them realize you won’t be the best means to whatever their end goal is basically. Don’t let them gaslight etc.
So I'd be shocked if it's another pregnancy. I suspect it's something to do with one of of her charity projects, or maybe a major international tour for the Cambridges?
I could be wrong but I doubt the "teaser" refers to a pregnancy announcement. I agree with @Liver Bird that's just not how royals announce pregnancies (well, the Sussexes probably will with #2) nor does it fit with Kate's HG medical history.
I expect it has to do with Kate's early childhood stuff or maybe Kate will be doing a solo tour. While she's had days-away abroad by herself, I don't think she's ever had a multi-day solo tour. Sophie and Anne do those frequently. Or maybe W&K will do a big tour. Anyway, I think the announcement will concern work.
@Swampwoman Henry Tudor’s narcsite.com is your best bet for all info on narcissists. He’s going to the bank on his books on how to deal with narcissists, but his website also has invaluable information. What is scary about his site is his contention that you are never free of a narc. They will always see you as a potential source of “fuel.” No contact seems to be the only way to cope with them. You need to cut them out of your life entirely. Block them on all media. Perhaps change your social circle entirely because they will start trashing you the minute you reject them (this is anathema to narcs) if they aren’t in the discard phase already. Discarding isn’t permanent, just temporary as you could be a future source of fuel. His site is a rabbit hole of epic proportions but fascinating. He also has a fascinating assessment on Ms. Markle. It’s in three parts written at various points in this ongoing saga. All three posts are absolutely fascinating and does not bode well for Harry.
It is telling that Meg's PR early on says she made Harry quit drinking but interesting coming from a woman who bragged about her drinking 'Tig' wine and being photographed with wine glasses & wine numerous times. Maybe early on she saw he had an abuse problem or was she just acting like a proper wife concerned about his health. But she could very well (in a divorce) later say how she was an abused spouse and she tried for a year or more to address his problem. Does the UK use 'grounds for a divorce' as a way to punish the offending spouse and reward the saintly partner? Either way, I am afraid Harry is suffering and MM will try to come out on top The only strange thing is why is she quiet now (does she not have custody of Archie), what will their story be when they reappear? -
https://thecrownsofbritain.home.blog/
I'm glad somebody is saying the video itself does not show brown eyes. I just think it's not possible to find somebody who is SUCH a dead ringer for Harry, I think it's obviously Harry. The eye pics must be a trick of the light on that capture.
This shit show is getting really good and the comments on this blog are exceptional.
Yes there are super secret rehab places for super rich and famous people, if you are fancy politician you can't just check in anywhere. Also the sons and daughters of super wealthy families, etc. Discretion is possible.
No reason needed.
You make reasons for him, no addict needs a reason.
I say this as somebody who struggles with alcohol, there is no reason needed to abuse substances.
Which means "because I want to" is a fine reason.
I never said that all Must have reasons, but many do have reasons if in their own mind, as I have seen it and heard it from many.
Perhaps, in theory - on paper - they thought this would be the perfect counter to Kate and William’s Christmas special? And, in a sense, it is but in the worst possible...and hilarious...way.
"Deleted" from where? You can access it quite easily on YouTube. I did so about 5 minutes ago.
" Voices are so easy to imitate."
They really aren't. Not to the point of being indistinguishable from the subject.
And again.... why? Who would bother to do this - and also happen to look and sound very very like Harry? What would be the point? What would anyone have to gain from pretending to be a prince pretending to be Santa?
The way a person's face adjusts during a smile will set two similar-looking people MILES apart.
That was Harry's face & smile, I just don't think one can fake that (and why for such a low profit?).
@CatEyes - sorry I misunderstood you.
To gain would be to prove Harry is a) not in rehab or b) out and about as always..as in still with MM.
But, I think it is Harry and if they ‘gained’ anything it was more proof that Harry is an idiot...and, ironically, ‘should’ be in rehab and/or ‘shouldn’t’ be with MM.
Totally agree. His eyes were too dark (lighting) in that video to say they were brown, I can't really see what color they are - this is too accurate to be a fake.
>>"Deleted" from where? You can access it quite easily on YouTube. I did so about 5 minutes ago<<
This is why I said about deletion:
@Charade said: ":An interesting development about Harry’s Santa video is that the BRF’s YT Channel pulled it just hours after uploading it. Something really is not kosher with that video. Maybe it’s a reaction to very negative feedback? I have never seen them do that."
So I only wrote what another poster observed, @Charade wrote it, upthread not very far up! She is a very kind, careful poster
His head is a bit longer.
Yes, he is that stupid and hopeless. I wish the RF stop using tax money to fund this buffoon and his crazy wife. They are becoming the laughingstock of GB. If they want to continue supporting them, they should use their own money.
British taxpayers deserve better.
I'm not sure how a one minute video against a plain white background which could have been made anytime and any place really proves anything at all.
If anything, the fact that that is all we have seen and heard from Harry in over a month provides evidence for the narrative that all is not well.
The video did have poor lighting
@Fairy Crocodile, at first, I was appalled, and then, this entire spectacle de merde began to break loose. My theory is that the BRF couldn't stop PH from this disaster, but they knew it was going to be a nightmare. So, they treated Rach quite well and did so publicly. She got special things and rides on the train and her own engagements, and now they can say they tried, they really, really tried and they're not racist and they welcomed her, but too bad, so sad. They let Rachel be her own undoing with her obvious greed and disrespect and disdain and haughtiness and selfishness and meanness.
I also think that they've played her with her own words and character flaws. For example, I don't believe for a second that she/they? were invited to Sandringham or Balmoral, but I believe that stories were released to let it look like Rach & PH rejected the invitation. Those may have come from the Harkle camp, or from the BRF, but either way, they were to save face and show strength. Rachel would sooner lose the new magic boobs than admit she wasn't wanted. And the Jen Meyer jewelry, what a way to shut Rach down, and she's too narcissistic to stop in a deep-enough hole. She will keep going because she probably thinks she can beat the BRF at this, but I think she's wrong.
All that said, I could be wrong, but I do see the BRF patience and strategy paying off, and of course, I credit my BFFs for it. Will is much smarter than the average bear, I think, and he can be petty and throw shade as well as TQ, and of course, Kate is beautiful and kind and (best of all) sincere, so she holds a mirror to all that is Rach, and beside Kate, Rach looks all the more wretched. Rachel is insincere, smug, arrogant, dismissive, and those qualities are eventually obvious to anyone watching, but Kate's lack of those qualities amplifies those of Rachel's.
As for how to deal with a narcissist, @Swampy, I have had to do so on several occassions in close relationships that I could not avoid. I've learned never to confront directly because they'll just lie their derrieres off, so silently set it up so truth can be revealed and leave no fingerprints. It takes longer, but when the person eventually blow themselves up, it's far more effective than getting into a 'who said and did what' with them.
I’m with you! The BRF took it down because it’s just unprofessionally done, especially if we are to believe he’s not in rehab. It’s particularly bad if he’s off skiing and this is all he could come up with?? Pretty pitifully bad effort on Hazz’s part if he’s supposed to be hail, hearty, and having a wholesome family Christmas!
On the Cambridges: I can try to find the time stamp to be certain I wasn’t seeing things, but I believe toward the end of the Mary Berry video that we see Catherine drinking/holding a glass of wine. I don’t think she is pregnant, and I wonder if she and William would embrace this new movement of their royal personae as wholeheartedly if they were planning for a fourth child. It feels like a new phase for them and I wonder if part of it is that the child-bearing years are behind them. It is likely I am overthinking, but I do remember feeling a new lease on my “self” once the baby-making was behind me, much as I love motherhood. And Catherine, as has been mentioned by many, seems to have a new and lovely confidence about her.
Perhaps it’s simply an awareness that Meghan has lost all steam and is out of the family. What are feelings about Toronto Paper’s identity and accuracy? (I am on the fence, perhaps with legs dangling on the troll side, but I enjoy pondering the tweets.)
How to get out of a situation with a narcissist was asked upthread. I’ve had many in my life starting with several family members and extending to BFs, teachers, landlords, and people at work (I work in a competitive organization in a technical field of highly-achieving and occasionally famous people). What helped me: getting support to know that I wasn’t “crazy"; ; going to Al-Anon for awhile; becoming self-sufficient; and teaching myself to not need, want, or expect anything from them. A trusted therapist told me narcissism cannot be treated—that made sense, since they don’t think they ever do anything wrong, and any problem (if they’ll even admit one) must be YOUR fault--but she said I could manage my exposure and maintain strong boundaries as to what is/is not acceptable. At times I had to enlist outside authorities in that message, such as the county landlord-tenant office regarding a destructive, narcissistic landlord.
I developed a thicker skin (although that had a price at times) and read a few relevant self-help books or websites. I had to remove myself from some situations--e.g., I did not speak to my alcoholic, very-narcissistic mother for 5 years after one of her worst outbursts. My mother apologized to me late in her life, which I never expected. I also found a little compassion for her and my narcissistic father when they were very old or had passed, because damage had been done to them that helped make them the way they were. In general,I found it hard to trust people, and did not marry or have kids, which I regret. But would I have been able to choose someone appropriately? I doubt it, at least before about age 50.
Why? Probably because I don't like people who gaslight and call them out on it every time.
Luckily for me (!!!) I dislike these people so much I actively distance myself from them shortly after realizing they suck so weirdly enough (THANK GOD) I don't ever connect with them any deeper than that. I seem to have an anti-narcissist feature built into my personality so for that I feel really lucky. It's not something I've actively had to think about.
Both these people (a female friend and a guy I dated), I ended up having to tell them to F-off because they sucked so bad.
I guess I'm just a no bullshit kind of person.
I can only assume having narcissistic parents made you more susceptible to attracting narcissists in your life and sadly, I must agree that if you HAD gotten married, it almost certainly would have been to one, so by that measure you probably avoided a lot of heartache.
Raising children with a narcissist husband would suck.
Yes, thank you. I was just answering @Liverbird because she questioned why I said the Santa item was deleted. Maybe the official site realized it was a fake??!!..just a theory, folks...please, I am not defending anything or wanting to engage.
@whoever regarding blue eyes...I have blue eyes, almost all my family has blue eyes, I've known thousands of people with blue eyes along with photos and although there can be shades of difference some even appearing greenish (like my one daughter) or the fabulous ice blue kind and pronounced dark blue variety, Harry seems to have noticeable blue eyes. I thought the video shown what was very decidedly brown eyes and with good lighting but sometimes people see what they want to see (so to each their own).
If you are asking me, I am the wrong person...I referenced @Charade, so she is the one who can tell you that or someone else. I am busy with my recuperating brother now.
@Thank you @Trudy for asking about him...he is making steady progress and is home with me (and boy is he happy). I take him to his PCP tomorrow and more physicians to come in nxt wk or two.
p.s. didn’t have a banana or a sharpie to write on!
I missed seeing your great posts but I'm back a little. Yes, the best Christmas present was my brother did not suffer a major stroke or debilya]ting seizures (he is coping with news he has dementia), The gifts keep coming as he is walking and not having hallucinations now. Merry Chritsmas to you especially! Thank you for your kindness it has meant so much (even my brother was shocked that people online prayed for him and he is thankful and attributes it to his recovery!!
Here I took time to find @Charade complete quote referencing said 'deletion' on "official" site.
>>> @charade said…
An interesting development about Harry’s Santa video is that the BRF’s YT Channel pulled it just hours after uploading it. Something really is not kosher with that video. Maybe it’s a reaction to very negative feedback? I have never seen them do that.
@Drabredcarpet Where’d you see it HD? The versions I’ve been seeing are very grainy. I didn’t get to catch it on their YT channel before it got pulled.
I think it’s genuinely Harry. He looks worn down to me and not necessarily high. Not sure but what looks like darker color eyes could be explained away with lighting, shadows, and maybe dilated pupils? Not sure.
December 21, 2019 at 8:01 PM<<<
Another poster also referenced this earlier.Today.
Scandi Sanskrit, you are my hero with your Trudeau comments. As a Canadian, I loathe him. I read somewhere that he has the charisma of his father and the brains of his mother, For anyone who knows his family, this is not a kindness. I suspect he’s had many interactions with old Megs in the past and his tweet was a favour. The guy’s been known to wear blackface, I can only imagine the skeletons in his closets.
I don’t think she with the Mulroneys for Christmas, I may have combed thru JM’s Instagram and noticed that she posted something thing like “Palm Beach can’t come soon enough”. So I’m thinking that she won’t be hosting Megs in Toronto.
It’s my hope that Harry is safely housed in some rehab facility far away from his ‘loving’ wife. Although the Santa video makes me question his sobriety.
With regards to Bad Santa and indeed the "fake" pregnancy, I am struggling to believe that the Markles could decieve the RF and get away with it, maybe I am totally naieve, but I jut don't see it. Sure there are under hand things going on, but this is massive, far different from merching and being total hypocrites and assholes. I have no time for either of them, but sometimes I need to step back and decide the wheat from the chaff,
I will get my name sorted in the meantime, I'm D to differentiate myself from other "unknowns"
About Harry, the video looks like him but don't know how it would get done in strict setting? Why would it get posted if it puts him a bad light? Would Meghan want it to be seen (not good optics) since she is a Narc as some say? I don't like to guess so better minds can maybe explain their thinking.
The "Royal Family Channel" on YouTube is not official. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the royal family themselves. The royal family do not maintain any 'channels' on YouTube or anywhere else.
However, MM can turn this around for herself: a bad quality, sad little Santa video is tailor-made for MM to say "You see H? You didn't do it right. You really need me to help you do a better job"
The BRF does have an official YT channel though. I’ve been subscribed to it for years:
https://www.royal.uk/launch-royal-youtube-channel
What do you mean?
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My point to MM and PH is this, when you see the Suzanne character (Carrie) return to "normal everyday life" with fame and famous parents (you could say she was raised by narcs), it is a wonder if Harry could do the same.
Carrie Fischer had two famous parents in Hollywood and she has always said about being cast as Princess Leia, "I had to sleep with the biggest nerd to get that part." But if she, with her inside connections, still had to sleep around to get parts, I cannot imagine what someone like MM had to do.....at least Carrie kept her sense of humor and found therapy in writing....
What do you mean?
D
Nutty has instituted a new rule that only comments related to the BRF will be allowed. All other comments will be deleted. I applaud Nutty re this and that's why I'm back happily commenting re Bad Santa and his scarlet Mrs. So, rest easily, you will not be subjected to any kind of politics or other diatribes.
@Nutty, I didn't apply for the part-time housekeeping position because I knew I would be too ruthless and would have been run out of Nuttyville on the back of Bad Santa's sleigh.
And speaking of sleighs... remember when the Duke & Duchess were just laying low for a quiet family gathering to celebrate Rach's 38th (again?), and that was all a BFL because they were really private-jetting about and partying in Ibiza? I wonder if BP and JT confirmed the Canadian location to give credence to the fact that at least one of them really is in Canada (not that we were looking or cared).
She went to LA and had Thanksgiving with her mom Doria
She then came to NYC and had some meetings with Harvey W
She borrowed a car to go to Toronto but was turned away at the CA border for expired Visa and/or other reasons
She has returned to the NY area
She is spending Christmas with her former husband's family (Jewish) yes he's remarried no I can't explain this
ThisLittlePetal (Meghan's twitter account) did post a happy Hannukah/Merry christmas post
that's the latest
Maybe narcs are naturally attracted to the acting profession much like autists are to engineering.
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And Trudeau snubbed Brits again by suggesting that Canadians were "warm and welcoming" while British are all cold, unfeeling racist treating poor Megs and Harry unfairly. I was not impressed.
This now makes two articles that have appeared in Canadian newspapers in the past month, proposing that Harry become Governor General of Canada. The first article appeared even before it was announced that the Smirkles were in Canada.
And until this month, there has been no suggestion of this idea apart from a suggestion by the Monarchist league of Canada in 2011, and now suddenly two articles in one month, one of which preceeds any acknowledgement that they were in Canada. The second article in a decidedly "anti woke" newspaper would be consistent with the one positive article about the Smirkles in The Telegraph. Those SS tentacles run far and wide.
This, therefore, leads me to conclude that SS and/or Smirkle herself have been working the Canadian newspapers, putting out feelers to gage the reaction of Canadians and plant the idea in the collective consciousness. (This would be in line with Smirkle feeding the press stories about Katherine making a baby shower for her, the Queen making her a birthday party in Balmoral, etc).
It seems that they now want to be based in Canada, but only if they can have a position where they will be treated "royally".
The current Governor General still has a few years left on her term and although her term can be renewed, she is not particularly liked by Canadians as she has an aversion to doing any more than the bare minimum required of her position.
“There’s nothing to stop Prince Harry from immediately becoming our Governor General” https://vancouversun.com/news/canada/theres-nothing-to-stop-prince-harry-from-immediately-becoming-our-governor-general/wcm/8c7642f4-1234-4720-9b6d-6b6c4b215734
“Pellerin: How to save the monarchy – make Prince Harry Canada's next GG”
https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/pellerin-how-to-save-the-monarchy-make-prince-harry-canadas-next-gg
“BLIZZARD: Toronto would be smart move for Harry and Meghan”
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/blizzard-toronto-would-be-smart-move-for-harry-and-meghan
I actually thought that the farm in Wales was a good idea for protecting Harry (but apparently not thought of as a good idea by Sussexes). It does show that Charles is aware of Harry's struggles and thinks that a bucolic setting may be good for him. If the Governor General job requires good judgement and diplomacy, though, I dunno.... If it is more of a ceremonial job, it could* work.
*If his wife doesn't completely alienate the Canadians.
a) The video is Harry without a doubt and he looks ridiculous, so no change there!
b) @Hunter - "Raising children with a narcissist husband would suck."
Correct. One example is that they don't co-parent. Ever. You'll tell your children they can't do something and he'll take them aside and say,"Go ahead but don't tell your mother."
c) It's a busy time of year, so I would just like to wish you all a very MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.
And finally, thank you Nutty for this great blog. See you all, (hopefully) in 2020.
I have a sneaky suspecion that the Harkles will do just nicely on the "donations: for their Sussex foundation, although technically there are rules to prevent inappropriate spending and who knows does Meg make any money merching? Harry's potential salary from being Gov-gen.will be in addition to what he gets now, no?
I personally can't see him landing that plum position but heh! heh! who knows (afterall Meg the grifter got the green light to marry in) lol
If Harry fell into that role because of his daddy, it might make waves. Canadians are starting to make noise about the costs, not only of the current governor general, but the generous stipends extended to former governor generals.
I can guarantee this will not happen. Unless he does it for free, maybe. Lol
From what I can gather (admittedly from Wikipedia) the job requires showing up for ceremonies. I assume that means showing up looking properly groomed and not appearing chemically impaired or hung over. Not Harry's strong suit, at least not recently.
The position also requires diplomacy, tact, and *I assume* the ability to speak fairly eloquently off the cuff. Sure doesn't sound like giggling/crying Harry who seems to say "ain't" an awful lot in conversation. I don't know if Harry's inability to speak French would be an issue but his command of the Queen's English isn't the best. That may sound snotty but it would seem language use would matter in that kind of position.
Finally, I assume the diplomacy and tact part of the position requires the GG to be able to understand/appreciate the disparate views of Canadians as well as understanding the job is not all about spreading one's own "woke" sensibilities.
I can't imagine Charles would be so foolish to want Harry in this role. He must be aware of his difficulties. And given that the GG is appointed by the Queen in consultation with Canada's PM, I can't imagine the Queen thinking Harry is up to this job. The made-up job she gave him of "Youth Ambassador for the Commonwealth" has no official duties so it can't ever be said he's failing to carry out his duties. But I gather there are some expectations for the GG.
Elle, I'm on board with you as to the BRF letting Megs hang herself. Sir Christopher Geidt apparently has British security chops, & likely knows a bit about disinformation. I have often wondered if stories we think the Harkles have put out are in fact his little seedlings. There were several pre-trip stories about the large entourage the Harkles took to SA, for example, but why did they look like such amateur slobs while there? Are the Harkles so hopeless even a large staff can't save them from themselves? I don't know where there Harkles are, or much care, but the Canada story could be disinformation from the Harkles. or BP. It could be Megs trying to save face, or Sir Christopher making them look like absolute jerks for not being in the country while Harry's grandfather is in perilous health. Who knows?
@CatEyes, so glad your brother's health is improving.
@Meowwww, thank you for sharing, God bless.
Nutty, thank you for this fun blog.
And to all a good night!
When the Olympics were held in Montreal in 1976, no one wanted to clean the Royal Box in the Olympic Stadium so the Queen was sitting amongst garbage and litter on the ground. I know, because a dear friend was working as a cleaner there and not being Canadian, volunteered to finally clean out the Royal Box.
That person's son named as GG of Canada? Forget about it. Ever, ever, ever. We had Haitian born GG, Chinese, Jewish, English Canadian and French Canadian GG's but the era of having British people, who aren't even Canadian, and who don't know anything about the culture, is beyond ridiculous.
Also, it was -33 deg Celsius with the wind chill in Ottawa last week. And, no way is Markle going to be happy with the spending limits imposed by the Canadian government. I know someone who had inside knowledge of one Canadian GG who wanted to spend $75,000 Canadian on a security fence around the GG's mansion and refused to sign anything into law while the Canadian Parliament would not agree to it. And, since Markle joined the royal family, the RF costs have increased by 20 million pounds in one year!!!! Also, do you think that she would be happy in a small town of 450,000 mostly civil servants? No way! And there is no precedent for the GG to live in Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver. Ottawa was chosen as the seat of government to balance the power of Toronto versus Montreal. To have the head of state living in Toronto would offset the entire political balance that is so delicately maintained in the country.
And, Canadians would never accept her. Although she thinks Canadians are nice because she has managed to make some friends in Toronto, these friends are not typical of Canadians in general. They are considered vile, woke, materialistic and mercenary people.
So, just forget about the whole idea. Harry and his repugnant half would cause a political crisis by his appointment, and during the duration of his term in office. GG's are usually seen and not heard, and Harry and Markle have shown that they cannot do "quiet".
With a minority government where Trudeau depends on Quebec's good will or the socialist NDP's good will to stay in office for 4 years, it ain't got a snowball's chance in hell of happening no matter how much Markle's stamps her big, bunioned feet.
Is that the kind of situation that begs for a dim witted son of a hated monarch married to a hated woman in his own country to become head of state in a country that is battling the linguistic divide on a daily basis with a minority government in office dependent on the goodwill of the block of Members of Parliament from Quebec? If you want to tear the country apart, sure. I guess after tearing her family, friendships, in-laws' family apart, la Markle is moving onto tearing nations apart?
Watched the CeltNews video today "32 times the palace said no to MM"
If this is true, they had plenty of red flags and reasons to deny the marriage from the beginning. Why wasn't it denied? If MM said they were discriminating, they would have been able to say
1) She was caught trying to take pictures of KP to sell later
2) She turns up at events uninvited
3) She courted the media
Those are concrete reasons, and they could have told her they would gladly release those stories if she accused the palace of discriminating against her.
People in Canada who for some reason have to swear their allegiance to the Queen for official purposes are routinely going to court to refuse to do so because the idea of monarchy in another country ruling over us is considered more and more unpalatable. And rightly so.
Thank you for your kind comment!! I told my brother again today the concern /prayers and kind remarks from online people I don't know and he was again amazed (as he does not go online). He appreciated everything!!
I agree, there is no way Meg’s ‘H’ is ever going to be GG. These articles sound like Meg and her posse building a lame campaign to have that happen. They are out of their minds with their ludicrous demands and aspirations.
America doesn’t want Meg either. I for one don’t want her anywhere near NY. The blue-bloods on the East Coast are Anglophiles and I just don’t see them ever embracing Meg. She can stay in LA with the thirsty wannabes AFTER she is dropped as a working royal. I doubt Hollywood wants her in the neighborhood.
What if people were saying that Harry and Markle should become President and First Lady of the USA, or Donald Trump said that his son could become President of Mexico? Because, you know, the opinion and political disenfranchisement of people other than Brits doesn't matter.
To anyone who even entertains this idea, let me tell you, it will be enough to bring people out into the streets in anger! And I would be among them! So, f**king stop even considering it!
My impression was that a few people were digging in their heels and going to court, but that the majority see this as a formality and could not be bothered to contest it. The majority of people who have to swear allegiance to the Queen in Canada are new immigrants who are just happy to become Canadian and just want to move forward with their new lives.