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Meghan's "voice" goes silent, but probably not for long

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been rather quiet over the past week, and no man could be happier about this than Boris Johnson.

In addition to having to supervise negotiations over the Sussexes' security costs abroad - surely if security were cut back and an incident occurred, Johnson's government would be blamed - Boris has to worry about Meghan's determination to "use her voice" when it comes to politics.

Having just put his signature on Brexit, Boris badly needs a trade deal with the Americans. And for that, he must remain friendly with Donald Trump.

Meghan doesn't like Donald Trump, and she will probably be saying so soon, possibly as soon as her first post-Megxit TV appearance.

Overestimates her influence

Meghan, like most celebrities, probably overestimates her political influence. Even Taylor Swift, who has a large and devoted fanbase, struck out with her very first political endorsement in 2018 - she put her name behind a (male) Democrat running against a (female) Republican in her home state of Tennessee, and the woman won.

That said, Meghan is gifted at causing chaos wherever she goes, and if she inserts herself into the political scene that would be no exception.

What would it mean for a member of the British Royal Family to be openly attacking the leader of one of the UK's longstanding allies? You don't have to like Donald Trump to think this is a bad idea. Would anyone have wanted to know, say, Prince Edward's opinion of Barack Obama?

The Royal Family is by definition apolitical, Prince Charles's repeated appearances with Greta Thunberg notwithstanding. Endorsing one candidate or another weakens support for the institution as a whole.

Not that Meghan cares.

Will Meg run for office?

There have been various media suggestions that Meg might run for office herself. I don't think she will or could.

First of all, a political campaign requires organization, and it requires a talented and hard-working staff. Meg has already shown herself to be completely incompetent if not dehumanizing when it comes to managing a team. (Something which has been a big negative for current candidate Amy Klobuchar.)

Secondly, a political campaign requires hundreds of in-person appearances and handshakes, precisely the job Meg ran away from in the Royal Family. You can't campaign for any office sitting home and posting Photoshopped images to Instagram.

Finally, as a real-life candidate has to be ready to deal with harsh media criticism and still rise to the occasion when the going gets tough. No one "asks if they're OK."

What I can see Meg doing is trying to ally herself with "the Squad", four left-wing women of color who are pushing the Democratic party to the left. Their most prominent face is Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez of New York, who has endorsed Bernie Sanders for President.

Will Meg do the same? The vision of a woman who chose to marry into a reformed feudal institution and is currently living off the largess of its largest duchy endorsing a Socialist candidate is delicious in its irony.

Not that Meghan cares.

The story on Doria 

What does Meghan care about? She cares about her image, or what she thinks is her image, which is why she spends so much money on PR in the past and apparently continues to do so.

Today's Mail On Sunday leads with a long-winded article about Meghan's mother Doria Ragland which managed to answer almost none of the questions people are really asking about Doria, such as where she was during Meg's teenage years and what she does all day now.

(There's also nothing about her current partner, who is reportedly a woman. That's fine by me - the poor lady never asked to get involved in Meghan's mess.)

We do learn that Doria makes an excellent shrimp gumbo, a recipe she passed on to Meghan, that she has remained on friendly terms with Thomas Markle, and that the three of them spent Thanksgiving 2016 at a house rented by Prince Harry in Beverly Hills. "There were no servants, just the family," the article states.

That sounds like a clue of some sort, the sort of thing the MoS drops into the very bottom of an article for readers to follow up on. I'm not sure what it means. Anyway, why was Prince Harry renting a house in Beverly Hills?

Post-Megxit Honeymoon Phase

If Meg were smart, she'd use this post-Megxit honeymoon phase with the US media, or at least some portions of it, to burn off the most embarrassing parts of her story and move forward.

Did Doria spend time in prison? Now's a good time to tell Oprah, perhaps link it to some kind of statement for corrections reform, and sob about how you as a teenager tried to cope with your Mom so far away.

Is Archie not really "from the body" as advertised? Let everyone know now, and tell Ellen DeGeneres about the pain of infertility, especially when living in the spotlight.

So broke during your acting years that you had to be a "ten cents a dance girl" for wealthy men? Say it now, while (some people) like you and will sympathize with your struggle. (The year that the movie "Hustlers" was considered for an Academy Award nomination might mean the time is right.)

The Mnuchin factor

Otherwise, someone else will release the story, and you won't be in control of it.

Someone else like Steve Mnuchin, Trump's Treasury Secretary, who was reportedly one of her "ten cents a dance" clients.

If Meg starts going after Trump, will Trump encourage Mnuchin to retaliate? Mnuchin has an active Twitter account.

A subtle dig in a Tweet from Mnuchin like, "The Duchess of Sussex, whom I have known for more than a decade, was in Washington to protest today" might be highly unpleasant for US-UK bilateral relations.

Not that Meghan cares.

Comments

Wanda said…
I agree with you DesDoc that this one was more balanced but it still gave an unfair and inaccurate portrayal of MM being treated differently due to race. Not enough was said on either doc about her poor character and toxic presence and they thus imo falsely accused the RF and the UK of racism. I just imagine if we are right about her marrying him for nothing more than money and title, and that this marriage is a role for her, that she does not even love him, and that she may have faked her pregnancy...and yet someone watching these shows who hasn't been following the story too closely, would get a very different impression.

I also noticed that neither show hinted about any divorce. They painted the Harkle's relationship as being fine!
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Magatha Mistie said…
@DesignDoctor. Thanks, great reporting. I’m glad I was unable to watch, I feel sick just reading it.
Release the Surrogate Now!!
xxxxx said…
@ Scandi Sanskrit

It is good to hear from someone who is of color, that you are sick of this wokeness. For the most part these wokey types just want to avoid-evade taking responsibility. Taking responsibility for their lives. So they blame others by crying out racism, sexism and so on. They live in the wealthiest nations that ever existed and this is not good enough for these bellyachers. They are spoiled and silly, having been brainwashed by their high school and university teachers.
The amusing part is that among the wokey ones of color, they are usually the lighter skinned one from among their racial or ethnic group. This is part of the "flight from white". Where just for an example, it used to be advantageous to pass for white. This was done blacks, who by personal appearance were on the borderline.
Now it is more advantageous to stake a claim for your blackness, as Megsy is doing, with her claims that racist Britain drove her out to Canada. We all know her acting resume said white or Caucasian and these were the gigs she got.

The wokey whites prevail on twitter and love to mob people who misspeak just a tiny bit. Piers Morgan is a master at trading insults with these dopes.
Wanda said…
@XXXXX
Seacrest really annoyed me in the first doc. I wonder if he plans to try and work with them? I know I keep saying this but someone really needs to light a fire under the RF.
SwampWoman said…
Scandi said...Like stop stealing energy/attention from people who have it way worse than you.

I think it is exactly that, Scandi. They are attempting to get millions under false pretence by alleging that they are soooo mistreated. I consider it theft. It offends me when there are real people that have an incredibly hard life and the networks are wasting time on those two frauds.

On the plus side, since they are worth so much to Hollywood, PC can quit sending checks.
DesignDoctor said…
@ Elle--I am OK! Thank you for asking.

@ BlueBell Woods -- Agree with you if you just watched those shows you would definitely get the wrong impression about Rach and think that they are a happy, normal family. Not true. That is why it is so great we have this blog to uncover and discuss the truth.

@XXXX
We all know her acting resume said white or Caucasian and these were the gigs she got.
I read that she wore different color clothes depending upon the part she was auditioning for so she could fit the part. For example, yellow if the part was for a Latina, red for a different ethnicity.
SwampWoman said…
DesighDoctor said...I read that she wore different color clothes depending upon the part she was auditioning for so she could fit the part. For example, yellow if the part was for a Latina, red for a different ethnicity. Her clothes were probably better actors than she was.
DesignDoctor said…
@Elle
Makes me wonder what will change minds.
I think minds would be changed or at least hope they would be if all the dirt on Rach came out--what was sickening to me as how she was portrayed as Harry's savior rather than the social climbing B we know her to be.

I hope that there is some reaction by someone in the British press about the load of merde which was dumped in these shows.

@ Magatha Mistie--Agreed the Archie birth story has to come out at some point in time. I hope we are not all speculating about his birth/origins five years from now.
Ian's Girl said…
Do they not see how their bragging about PW being a lesser king without Hapless makes them look?

If you really think your brother and country need you that much, doesn't your leaving make you look a million times worse?

The absolute gall of this. I just... honest to God, they have officially made me sick with their BS.

She is what she is, and I never liked her anyway. Harry, though... my God. He has to have had this hatred inside him all along. She certainly has fanned it to heights it may not have ever reached, but he has been bitter and jealous a good long time, apparently.

I still can't believe she was allowed in. I get that the BRF were afraid of being called racists, but hey have to have known about her yachting, so why not just let that get out and say she is not an appropriate choice for a royal, but if Harry wanted to leave royalty, he was welcome to have at it. Isn't that what they did to Koo decades ago?
DesignDoctor said…
SwampWoman LOL perfect comment!
xxxxx said…
@BlueBell Woods

Whatever Seacrest is, he is worth zillions and this how they keep score in Hollywood. So he gets loads of respect there. In any DM article on him the commenters crawl out of the woodwork to make gay insinuations about him. He looks too metro, clean and spiffy. I suppose. Not that there's anything wrong with that. See! I am woke enuff too!
DesignDoctor said…
@Ian's Girl
Maybe if Andrew had been allowed Koo he would not have needed Epstein and would not be in the hot water he is in now. LOL

I, too, cannot believe Rach was let in--there has to be some story there such as her saying she was pregnant in order to push the marriage through.
Wanda said…
DesignDoctor said...
"@Bluebell Woods. I thought it was uttered before that--but I don't know--that's why I asked.
I can't imagine saying that WMWMG to Her Majesty!"
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Yes, I can't imagine that either, but I don't think he said it to the Queen - but rather to the courtiers who were organizing her visit to choose a tiara. I believe she was offered a small group to choose one from but she was aware of the Vladamir and asked the courtiers for it - they said no, so she told Hazza she wanted it and he shouted WMWMG to THEM.
Queenie finds out and intervenes. I don't think it was said before then. I've been reading a lot on them since not too long after it came out they were dating and I don't remember that statement until tiaragate.
Wanda said…
@X times 5 - yea I have no problem with a metro man! Do you think he is after the Harkles?
Ian's Girl said…
@DesignDoctor lol, who knows indeed?

I suppose wondering how on earth she got a foot in is why we're all here in the first place, right? Let alone the trainwreck that has unfolded since.
Wanda said…
SwampWoman said:
"They are attempting to get millions under false pretence by alleging that they are soooo mistreated. I consider it theft. It offends me when there are real people that have an incredibly hard life and the networks are wasting time on those two frauds."
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This seems to be their MO! I consider what they did (especially HER) in the UK to be theft as well! She took all that money for clothes to be worn ON THE JOB as a member of the RF repping the Queen, the money for the wedding and Frogcott - all on false pretenses AND then walked away claiming false discrimination! And if it ends up that she did indeed use a surrogate or even worse that there is NO Archie then that whole situation is a HUGE fraud on the UK as well!
Magatha Mistie said…
@DesignDoctor. Different coloured clothes for auditions/parts, she wore predominantly black in the UK, to portray woc, & the colour of her heart.
@SwampWoman. Her clothes were better actors than she was hahaha
hunter said…
@Magatha "and the colour of her heart" lololol!!
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@DesignDoctor: 💜💜💜💜💜💜
hunter said…
I've spoken to a couple American black women about Meghan Markle, because of course I have.

I don't think either of them follow the real story and both women appear to be fully black women, unlike our daisy princess.

One of them embraces the racist narrative because in her experience it seems entirely believable. She is not interested enough to actually look into the stuff we've all been tracking. I said to this friend, "she's not even black!!!" and we got into erasing black culture and the danger of the one drop rule.

The other girl was more like "she's not even black" which is my personal opinion and she seemed skeptical of the entire Meghan story.

A white friend who had been defending Meghan finally watched the video clip compilation where she continually steps ahead of Harry, speaks over him, etc and came away from it going oh woah holy crap.

Now if only I can get Friend 1 to watch it...

Wanda said…
Catching up on some earlier posts:

Hikari said:
"She's gone and burned bridges with Oprah by claiming that it was Oprah that actively encouraged her and Harry to leave the Royal Family. Oprah has categorically denied ever saying that. So . . .the mental health documentary series with Harry is probably off."

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And MM's made things worse with Oprah by leaking to the press stories that Ellen will get the first big interview with her instead of Winfrey!

They interviewed Oprah on one of the Harkle programs tonight and she mentioned the Harry mental health doc but I don't know how long ago that taping was done.
Wanda said…
I love Magatha's short and sweet punches of humor! Black clothes = black heart indeed!
xxxxx said…
Some smart Alec at DM said these walls have ears!:��

murklesmirkle, Smirkleville, United States, 2 hours ago

Well, I've been saying since the announcement that they were staying in that home which was reportedly owned by a Russian oligarch & that they were moving to Canada, that that house was wired for sound everywhere within 30 minutes of getting the "GO" that Sm u g & Mug would be staying there. You know Putin & those in the Kremlin have gotten one H 8 l l of an earful for the last 2 1/2 months of SM ughan & her NOW husband scheming & bad-mouthing the BRF. Talk about blackmail material!!! These two idiots are too obsessed with a luxe life that they don't even see the danger of what they are doing & what these associates want from them. Unbelievablely stupid!!!!
DesignDoctor said…
That taping of Oprah on the street saying she was not encouraging HAMS to leave the BRF came out a day or two after the bombshell reveal. So fairly recently. The clip was in the ABC show.
Your mention of the Ellen interview leak just reminds me of how little read NO loyalty Rach has to anyone. I guess she has always been up for sale to the highest bidder.LOL

I don't like Ryan Seacrest and now I like him even less,since finding out he is behind the Kartrashians. And even less with his comments about HAMS making so much money. He must be after them.
Wonder how many investors will be after them when they discover how hard it is to work with Duchess Difficult?
xxxxx said…
More DM comments:

Skyline Pigeon, S.H., United States, 11 hours ago

Imagine if the owner of the house the Mercenary Markles and her hapless hen pecked husband are couch surfing at, had it wired for surveillance? Imagine that could prove a potential investment for some sort of future use for those in possession of anything and more likely, all sorts of potential problems for the Royal Family.

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murklesmirkle, Smirkleville, United States, 2 hours ago

Of course, it's wiretapped....they're dealing with the frig gin' RUSSIANS!!!!!! Ohhh, I can't wait to hear the conversations over the last 2 1/2 months, or at least, read the transcripts! It would actually serve the Queen & Useless Charles right for letting that marriage go forward and for caving in on the departure negotiations!
Wanda said…
@LavenderToast - totally agree about Afua H. I was very disturbed by most of what she said. It seemed like she had an agenda and was somewhat smug about it too.
xxxxx said…
How can we miss him when he won't go away?

Prince Harry's close friend Nacho Figueras says he has suffered a lot and he's just trying to protect his wife Meghan and their son Archie by stepping back from the British royal family.

The Argentinian polo-player told Good Morning America on Wednesday that he spoke to Prince Harry just a few days ago and that his friend is just trying to live a normal life.

'He has suffered a lot for all the things that have happened to him,' Figueras, who regularly plays polo with Harry and was among the first to meet baby Archie, said.

'He wants to live a normal life, as normal as his life is going to be. When you have 1,000 paparazzi outside your house in Canada waiting to get one picture of your son, that's not normal.

'He's protecting his family, he's protecting his wife and his child.

'He was the son of someone who suffered attacks from the press and it's undeniable. He doesn't want for that to happen for his family.'

Figueras spoke out ahead of the ABC's prime time special - Royal Divide: Harry, Meghan, and The Crown - going to air on Wednesday night.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7943029/Prince-Harrys-friend-Nacho-Figueras-says-hes-suffered-lot.html?offset=639&max=100&jumpTo=comment-507803175&reply=507803175#comment-507803175
Ozmanda said…
The Mansion they have been staying at appears to be owned by someone who is on the UN Watchlist and may also be the subject to sanctions. As such I wouldn't be surprised if he is also collecting intel from them to sell to the highest bidder.
Wanda said…
@DesignDoctor -
Shall we have a drink together and toast ourselves for making it through AND reporting on BOTH shows??!! I might watch them again tomorrow (dvr) if I have time, just to see what I missed and to perhaps note any other unforgivable comments to hold against the Harkles!

I'll take a big mug of steaming hot chocolate with a shot of peppermint schnapps and a mound of whipped cream.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Ozmanda said...
The Mansion they have been staying at appears to be owned by someone who is on the UN Watchlist and may also be the subject to sanctions. As such I wouldn't be surprised if he is also collecting intel from them to sell to the highest bidder.
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Same here, Ozmanda.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
xxxxx said...
How can we miss him when he won't go away?

Prince Harry's close friend Nacho Figueras says he has suffered a lot and he's just trying to protect his wife Meghan and their son Archie by stepping back from the British royal family.
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Suuuuuuure he is. LOL
Wanda said…
OK British Nutties - now it's your turn. I found this telly listing in the Times:

Inside the Crown: Secrets of the Royals
ITV, 9pm
More insights into pivotal moments in the life of Queen Elizabeth II and her household from historians and insiders, tonight exploring the complex relationship between the press and the royal family. What should be a symbiotic relationship (“The royals need the press, but the press need the royals,” says the author Katie Nicholl. “They sell newspapers.”) is more often fraught and dysfunctional. It starts with a timely look at how the media targeted Meghan Markle when she started dating Prince Harry, before a dig in the archive to look at the news blackout in the 1950s and the feeding frenzy surrounding the marriage of Charles and Diana.
DesignDoctor said…
@Bluebell Woods
Yes, we should toast our fortitude for watching both shows! Hot chocolate with whipped cream and peppermint schnapps sounds divine! And perfect for this cold northern night! Here's to our friendship!

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DesignDoctor said…
@Lt.Nyota U
One of my favorite points in the show was that Harry has not figured out that the pressure from the press and the paps was much worse for Diana once she was out of the BRF. Hello Capt Obvious. How in the world does he ever imagine that he as Prince of the Realm can ever live a free and normal life?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Lots of speculation going on with the Harkles.

Not good for them. All the secrecy erodes their brand day by day. In fact, any secrecy erodes a brand on its face.

Good. Let's see the gross truth from them sooner rather than later.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
DesignDoctor said...
@Lt.Nyota U
One of my favorite points in the show was that Harry has not figured out that the pressure from the press and the paps was much worse for Diana once she was out of the BRF. Hello Capt Obvious. How in the world does he ever imagine that he as Prince of the Realm can ever live a free and normal life?
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DesignDoctor,

It's amazing to me, but Harry has not realized that Diana died because she ditched the professional British security she could have had, instead of the Al-Fayed goons she eventually settled with. Somehow, he seems to think he can make do with the same level of bad protection. Or not. He's an idiot, who doesn't know what he wants until he needs it.
The Russian oligarch mansion story has just come out,and I think it would be worth a look at all of these big names who support The Harkles to see if these people also have ties to some of these shady Russian characters. A hard look into their backgrounds and finances are in order.
What do they get out of their backing of the Harkles? David Foster and by marriage, Katharine McPhee, Elton, Ellen, Oprah and Gayle, the Clooneys, the Beckhams, the Mulroneys, the Trudeaus and others do not endorse people for free or just because they are such "good friends," (or once were before they got smart and faded into the background). They do it because they get something out of it. What do they get? Money.
ALL of these very vocal supporters of the Harkles, who all just happen to have great wealth, need looking into, as does the SoHo House. And so does anybody who works with them in the future, as the Russian connection is know known.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@JocelynsBellinis said...

ALL of these very vocal supporters of the Harkles, who all just happen to have great wealth, need looking into, as does the SoHo House. And so does anybody who works with them in the future, as the Russian connection is know known.
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Yes. Indeed.
I haven't seen either of the shows that aired today but we can add Seacrest and Mark Cuban to the list of people who should be investigated, both personally and financially. Any others?
I don't think that Marcus Anderson has dropped the Harkles. I think he's still working behind the scenes, as are others from the Soho House whose names might not be so well-known.
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all, and thanks to everyone who watched and recorded the TV specials.

From what I can tell from your descriptions, the ABC one seemed a bit more balanced.

Nevertheless, there was never going to be a hatchet job on Meghan. One commenter has already pointed out that ABC is owned by Disney, which has business connections with the Sussexes.

Also, who wants to be the journalist who points out Meg's misdeeds (getting paid to wear clothing and jewelry to Royal events, mistreating staff, announcing 'pregnancy' at Eugenie's wedding and generally competing with otherRoyals over coverage, Sussex Foundation suspicious timing of registration and finances, overlapping love affair timelines, possible surrogate pregnancy disguised by moon bump, hiding Archie from the British public, etc. ) and takes the discussion from Internet gossip to mainstream media?

Talk about a career killer.

You can see a little bit of what might happen to such a person by looking at what happened to that Washington Post lady who pointed out Kobe Bryant's checkered past. (That lady had her own checkered past and in my opinion, very poor timing in her Kobe remarks, but let's put that aside for the moment.) She dealt with a large number of death threats, was briefly suspended from her job, and had to leave her home for security reasons and move to a hotel.

Could that happen to someone who dug up the dirt on Meg and published it? Seems likely that the sugars would go after that reporter pretty hard.

You need a desperate reporter to do that, and desperate reporters aren't working at ABC or at TMZ, which is owned by Warner Media.
Rainy Day said…
“Prince Harry's close friend Nacho Figures says he has suffered a lot and he's just trying to protect his wife Meghan and their son Archie. . . . The Argentinian polo-player told Good Morning America on Wednesday that he spoke to Prince Harry just a few days ago and that his friend is just trying to live a normal life. . . . When you have 1,000 paparazzi outside your house in Canada waiting to get one picture of your son, that's not normal.”

There are NOT 1000 paps outside that house! Is Harry lying or exaggerating to Nacho, or is Nacho exaggerating what Harry told him?
Nutty Flavor said…
I think Nacho is doing the exaggerating. I don't think there's 1000 paps anywhere, including Davos or the Royal Weddings.

Paps make their money with exclusive photos they can sell the rights to. The more people there, the less your photos are worth.
Sandie said…
The trashy supporting actors in the soap opera:

Nachos Figueras (he of the Windsor cologne and the boasting about using private jets) is vocal in speaking up for the Sussexes, revealing just how self obsessed and out of touch they pair are. That he is a close friend of the Sussexes is a good indication of their character.

Thomas Markle (the father of the narcissist duchess) is vocal in keeping the Sussexes on the front page and guaranteeing that he will never see his daughter or grandson, and never meet his son-in-law. However, he is a prime example of a society (those that defend Meghan in the War of the Markles) that thinks it is perfectly okay to ghost a father because he offended you, embarrassed you, and where traits of narcissism are admired qualities.
Nutty, I don't think that just one reporter would be able to connect the dots and stay safe. However, somebody broke the Russian oligarch story and more stories like these will come out. Eventually, the many of the dots will be connected. It just doesn't pay to take on the press and expect to win in the long run.
Hi Nutty

I too think Nacho is exaggerating. He is encouraged by the media and the Harkles (or tolerated) for a few reasons such as
1. He is the only personal friend Harry can count on his side. All others are Meghan's spokespeople and mostly talk about her.
2. He is not a random but job like Scobie or JM. He is a respected polo player, Harry's long time friend and obviously not shy of inserting himself into the narrative. So he is considered a sane voice, so to say.
3. It helps to have him in Harry's camp, and so by extension Meghan's camp because he brings a so-called inside knowledge/behind the scenes picture into this debate. And they don't have to ask him twice. What ever he says doesn't have to disguised as close friend or expert but can be directly attributed to him.

That being said, Nacho needs a hair cut and he definitely needs to stop using his own Windsor perfume. He is definitely sniffing too.much of these shady fumes.

Sandie said…
1 000 paps outside the house where they are staying? That in itself would be newsworthy.

How can a reporter listen to such rubbish, not challenge it, and then simply publish it?
Sandie, A reporter will publish a quote like that so that people like us will question it. That way, they stay safe, but it puts Nacho into a bad light because the comment is ludicrous. Of course there aren't 1000 paps, and Nacho sounds like a fool for saying it.
Also, Nacho's connection to Harry has been long-term, but look at him now. He gets free PR talking about his friendship with Harry and sells his Windsor cologne because of Harry. One hand washes the other, and it all comes down to money.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Nutty. Maybe a group of reporters/tabloids will do the job, together? It took a village of said reporters to raise Harrys profile, & hide much of his shenanigans. Said same village can equally expose him now that he’s fully grown, flown? I live in hope!!
@BlueBell, ‘Inside the Crown: Secrets of the Royals.’

It’s part 2 of a series (not sure how many episodes there are). Last week I was discussing the contents with a fellow Nutty. It’s more of a historical documentary and they’ve showed stuff that people have never heard of before (they’ve been allowed to uncover some letters in the archives). It’s very good and factual. 🤗
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Nutty Flavor said...

You need a desperate reporter to do that, and desperate reporters aren't working at ABC or at TMZ, which is owned by Warner Media.
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I hope they are.

The spirit of François-Marie Arouet, better known as Voltaire, lives in these journalists who are vilified as parasites. Piers Morgan sometimes channels them, but there not enough of them.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
"Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” (Voltaire)

"A witty saying proves nothing." (Voltaire)
Magatha Mistie said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura. I’m hoping many people sing about what Meg was doing in the Life boats.
Duchess Dingy Dinghy is overboard & sinking fast...
Unknown said…
Thanks everyone for the notes on the Sussex specials! I have been sick and was in no mood to watch them. You guys are wonderful for taking those hits for the Nutty team.

Steve Martin dropped by LSSC after those specials aired here. He’s touring the UK with Martin Short and made a couple of jokes about H&M: https://youtu.be/syXVAuSzZg4

First joke: He responded to Colbert saying there were a couple of openings in the royal family now and maybe they could fill them. He says, the difference between Marty and him to them is “we show up.”

Second joke: Steve Martin remarks that Meg gave HMTQ a bracelet for her 93rd birthday engraved with “Do Not Resuscitate.”

I could see Colbert enjoy and understand the jokes but played off the tense and negative reactions from the audience.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Charade thanks. Just watched YouTube clip, good on Steve Martin!! Audience reaction was ok. Many a true word spoken in jest.
Unknown said…
I would love it if there were reporters that would go in for the kill with the Sussexes but I doubt that’s happening anytime soon. Things are too fresh. If we are lucky, we could get comedians to do the prodding.

Can I join Team Introvered Cats in Pantyhose too? My brother who is a classic party-boy keeps wanting to “cure” me. I just want to listen, read, and write. Speaking is optional :P

@Elle Best wishes to you getting to where you want with your career. You call it boring but I still think it’s cool ;)

@Scandi Sanskrit Your posts are all fun in the sun! I also love the sociological topics and links you bring up. Thank you for writing EXACTLY why this non-white Third Culture kid can’t stand Meg’s fakery and virtue signaling. What you wrote is everything :)
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@charade:

Hello fellow TCK & fan of Audrey Hepburn's "Charade", and thank you for the kind words! 💜
Unknown said…
@Magatha Mistie You’re welcome :) I was super glad Steve Martin went there. I thought the jokes were great. I’d love Colbert to go for it with the Sussexes but I doubt it. I was at least happy that I could see Colbert appreciate the jokes. When H&M start being themselves in America, we might get the punches.

BTW, I love your handle. I’m a huge Agatha Christie fan!

Unknown said…
Thanks back @Scandi Sanskrit :)

Good luck and best wishes for all those deadlines you’ve got.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Charade, Team Introvered Cats in Pantyhose would be honoured for you to join us in many evenings of listening, reading, writing, petting various cats and not talking an awful lot.
This is one club our Megs could never join, because: word salad, no cats, no pantyhose. And she doesn't strike me as the type to sit quietly in a corner with a good book either.
Teasmade said…
@charada: Were you here when some of us were confessing our Myers-Briggs? A lot of us are INFPs. (Which . . .any guesses for the HAMS?)
Unknown said…
@PaisleyGirl Thank you so much :) LOL, yes, I think we can add kitties to the list of what Meg shouldn’t go near. That’s after dogs, babies, and man-children.

@tweeymma Yes, I was one of the people who admitted their types. I call myself an INFJ. I am an amateur at typings and I base them off of other frameworks instead of MBTI. I think Harry is an ESFP and Meg is an ESTP. Whatever they are, I doubt anyone wants to claim them.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

@BlueBell, ‘Inside the Crown: Secrets of the Royals.’

It’s part 2 of a series (not sure how many episodes there are).


There are 4 episodes and I hope to discover many more things that I hadn't previously known!:)
DogsMatter said…
Thanks for all your recaps of the shows. I could not stomach watching them, knowing they would be so skewed. It's awful how they are accusing the RF & British citizens as racist. She is whitest dark skinned person I have ever seen!
Suzanne Wilson said…
Harry: ENFP, Same as
Diana.
Meghan: ENTJ
Queen and Kate: ISFJ,
Sophie too, probably.
Charles: INTJ, or possibly ISFJ.
Suzanne Wilson said…
Sorry, I meant INTJ or *ISTJ* for Charles.
Portcitygirl said…
Wow. On all the comments. Too many to even scroll through! All are great that I've read. I missed the ABC airing, but after reading some informative comments, thanks Nutties, here are a few of my thoughts.

ABC/Disney threw major shade at the future king of England. FU ABC/Disney.
And Harry, I know you gave permission for this since you and your wife are now employees of Disney. It looks as if you have given up your birthright and family for dirty Disney money. Quit having your friends moan and groan about your need to protect your family. It's all about the money. See Mark Cuban, Ryan Seacrest, and Dr. Phil. And Oprah you just threw major shade via your spokesman, Phil.

I figured our disgusting hollywood/media bs false narrative dribbling sycophantic bad actors would prop up these two grifters. No big surprise here.

The only thing that continues to shock and disgust me is Harry's willingness to harm his brother. Diana would be furious.
Poor Harry, this path is dark and these greedy creatures with which you've aligned yourself are as well.

I said before, this is the global cabal against the Monarchy, but why? The Monarch
is global. But HM is for her country, as is PW. Not certain of Charles. The global cabal is for themselves.

To sum up, what the American/cabal/media idiots will continue to push, using PH, is
we are good anti racist over here and your evil colonial country is bad and racist. Can anyone say fake media?


Hikari said…
Nacho Figeuras seems like a tool, not above exploiting “best mate” Harry in order to sell cologne. Lots of celebrities sell their own fragrances, but there’s a reason Nacho called his Windsor and not Buenos Aires. For shame. It seems like it is impossible for a Royale to have real friends, unless they are made in childhood. I can understand Harry’s anger, but it’s misplaced directed to the press alone. What about all these so-called “friends” that run to the press and give them fuel to print to promote themselves?

The 1000 paparazzi comment is ludicrous. There might be one, hired by Meg. In any case, if there’s 1000 photographers camped out in front of the Harkle house, where is a single photo of the couple, Together or separately? Since Harry arrived, nada.

Also I couldn’t help noticing the very prominent mention of Nacho “being the first to meet baby Archie.” The placement of this remark is odd in the sentence, and it feels like yet another gratuitous celebrity rushing to ensure us that Archie definitely exists!!! Not forgetting that Ellen and Hillary Clinton have both met Archie and even fed him while discussing climate change and women in politics with his mum.

Sure. Just like Priyanka Chopra Met Archie at Frogmore.

So much doubling down on baby Archie… It’s almost like Rachel is afraid we will forget she has a baby or something. He needs his existence verified by celebrities, and because they are celebrities we have to believe it’s true. One celebrity endorsement trumpet it loudly on the Internet and television beats thousand photographs or live video footage of a a real actual baby interacting with his parents.

A lie repeated 1000 times does not become truth but this is what Rachel has based her entire existence upon.

@DogsMatter,’I could not stomach watching them, knowing they would be so skewed. It's awful how they are accusing the RF & British citizens as racist. She is whitest dark skinned person I have ever seen!’

As a Brit, I now won’t be bothering to download this tripe. To air such horribly non factual biased reporting is more than irresponsible
and lazy journalism (if you can even call it that), it’s a form of propaganda. 😖☹️
Unknown said…
@Suzanne Wilson Diana self-identified as an INFP. She typed herself after a friend (I think a journalist) had a book about the types. She read the descriptions and said INFP matched her exactly.

I know Harry keeps trying to push the narrative that he has inherited Diana’s spirit and therefore her legacy, I just don’t buy it. I think Wills fits her personality much better. Not perfectly but much closer. Harry doesn’t have the spotlight and so the currency he goes by is well, I’ve got my famous Mom’s “je ne sais quoi” qualities. How can anyone argue with that? He sure has her genes and emotional volatility. Diana’s “special-ness” is hard to measure and what he is trying to get us to measure him against is a an image of an image in our memories. Look how much his wife has people spewing she’s Diana’s incarnate because cameras take pictures of her like her MIL.

I really don’t think Diana and Harry have the same personality type at all. Diana doesn’t get credit for having a lot of self-discipline and foresight at a young age. It’s like pure debauchery and hedonism with Harry. I think Harry does everything in his power to make people think he is like his Mom so he has a metaphorical legacy to compete with Wills actual legacy. Who would care if he was some random royal not potentially Diana incarnate? Sorry Harry. Thank you, next.
Are there any other hypotheses as to the game in which she is a pawn?

NWO globalism?

Old-fashioned power politics between major blocs?

Finally destroy `Special Relationship' between UK & US?

Create unfavourable climate for UK/US trade deals?

Destabilise UK as punishment for leaving EU? As warning to other states that might be thinking of doing the same?

Encourage racial troubles in UK?

Serve the purposes of Russian-owned newspaper owners? The Russian State?

Destroy UK economically?

Cui bono? Any other states/organisations that are `not friends of Britain'?

Propaganda? It sure is propaganda.

As for Russia, it wasn't just the polonium case. There was Salisbury - the targets lived, at least 3 innocent people were badly damaged and one innocent woman died. We know who did it and how they did it but only after they'd skipped off to safety in the arms of Mother Russia. Uncle Vlad just laughed at us - they'd only come to Salisbury to admire the beautiful cathedral, we were told...
KCM1212 said…
@Design Doctor

The reason "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets" sounds familiar may be because Sarah Vaughn had a famous hit in the late '50s called "Whatever Lola Wants, Lola Gets". It may have been from the Broadway show "Damn Yankees".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QvcaSBN82ns

And @Miggy, thanks for the blog link. Excellent article!
Suzanne Wilson said…
@Charade-- I've found that knowledge of the shadow functions is a real help in nailing down a person's type, and in understanding my own type, which is definitely INFP. I'm certain Diana was not INFP. We INFPs have extraverted-sensing as a shadow trickster function. The trickster function is your blind spot, and when you try to use it it plays tricks on you. It can also be the source of much of your sense of humor. Extraverted-sending trickster makes it difficult to processes visual information, so I'm clumsy and I have no idea what looks best on me. Graceful Diana types we INFPs ain't. On the other hand, extraverted-sensing is the shadow role function for the ENFP. The role function is a function you're good at, but as a hobby-horse. You're tempted to fall back on it because it's so easy, but if you do you'll feel drained and frustrated and trapped in the role because it has no connection to your core self. Now, extraverted-sensing role function wants to put on a show for people, dress and act for the part, but the ENFP knows this is not who they really are, and much dissatisfaction can result from this.
For us INFPs the role function is introverted-thinking. As an INFP I can easily get lost in abstract reasoning as an escape from actually making decisions and doing things in the real world, but when I do I end up feeling cut off from other people and from myself. For the ENFP, introverted-thinking is the trickster function. Diana herself admitted abstract reasoning was not one of her strengths. And she did like to poke fun of the absurdities of life, which is an introverted-thinking kind of humor.
And Diana got her energy from being around people, which makes her an extravert, not an introvert. She hated being alone. We introverts need alone time, to recharge our batteries. We could never spend hours on the phone as Diana did when she didn't have people around her.
As for self-discipline, that's an introverted sensing trait. Self-will, on the other hand, is a trait of introverted-intuition. It can be hard to tell the difference between a person who has a strong will and a person who has a strong sense of discipline but I'd hazard a guess that in both Diana and in Harry the will is the stronger factor.
Playing a role he doesn't feel connected with? Abstract reasoning as a blind spot? Maybe that goes a way to describing Harry as well as his mother.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Wild Boar, I think you are on the right track re Russia's involvement in this shambles. Putin enjoys nothing more than destabilizing his enemies. He did it with the poisoning in Salisbury, he did it with the Russian involvement in the 2016 USA election, he did it with his denial of involvement in the MH17 plane crash, and this has his fingerprints all over it as well.

It seems a bit of a coincidence that the Harkles are renting a villa from a mysterious Russian oligarch, who (as several posters have pointed out) probably had the place bugged before their arrival. Who is funding Meghan's expensive PR firms, her Russian bot farms, her IG followers?

How did she manage to afford Sunshine Sachs when she was still working on Suits? Who paid for her extensive travels at that time? And who paid for the Tig website? Who put her in Harry's orbit? How did she manage to get the humanitarian gigs around that time? How did she, as an unknown cable actress, manage to meet Obama, Hillary Clinton, Ellen?
KCM1212 said…
Does anyone else think the Harkles probably got paid for both tghe specials last night?

Sycophantic b.s., Both of them.

I can't wait for the denouement to this tale.
lizzie said…
@PaisleyGirl,

"How did she, as an unknown cable actress, manage to meet Obama, Hillary Clinton, Ellen?"

I'm not sure she did meet all those people when she was unknown cable actress. She talked about SEEING Ellen at a dog shelter in LA when she adopted Bogart, the 5-year old dog she left behind when she moved to the UK. In an interview published in 2016, she said she didn't know Ellen but Ellen told her to adopt the puppy it was sort like Oprah saying to do something so she did.

https://www.besthealthmag.ca/best-you/wellness/how-ellen-degeneres-convinced-meghan-markle-to-adopt-a-dog-and-more-from-our-may-cover-star/
Louise said…
Jessica Mulroney has put her IG account on private. She must have been receiving a lot of negative comments due to her mocking of the Holocaust survivor photos.
DesignDoctor said…
@KCM1212
Thanks for your theory re: The origin of "What Meg wants Meg gets," but I know the song from Damn Yankees is not what I am thinking about in this case.
It feels like it has been around longer than Tiaragate, but after others' comments I agree it probably started then.
@WildBoar
Great list of hypotheses of the games that could be a foot. MM appears to either be very naive or selling out her husband and the BRF in her quest for international fame and fortune.
Harry"s MBTI I see Diana and Harry as being different types..

Unknown said…
Thanks @Suzanne Wilson! Very interesting things to consider. Which framework/methodologies are using for the typing?

I am not as familiar with Diana as Harry, so you may be right. However, I do think that ruling out Se-trickster for Diana is problematic. She was groomed and instructed from a young age on her dress, makeup, manners, and so on. Not only that, she had a team to ensure she looked flawless not unlike Kate does today.

What Diana’s fashion and makeup choices were are filtered through the choices and expertise of many “invisible” people heavily invested in making sure Diana was perfect. There were rumors that British Vogue’s Grace Coddington taught her how to pose for the cameras. The Queen Mother and Lady Susan Hussey had a heavy hand in training Diana and building up her royal poise.

What is your take on Diana’s insistence on blue eyeliner a trendy choice but against her MUA’s advice? She eventually stopped but after it became her signature.

Anyways, this was a lot of fun! Nice to hear others takes on personalities :)
PaisleyGirl said…
@Lizzie, thanks for clarifying the Ellen story. What are the odds of meeting Ellen in your local pet shelter?

Re Meghan meeting Obama and Hillary, I looked it up and she met President Obama at the White House in 2015 (before she even met Harry, I think). There are photos if you google "Meghan Markle meets Obama". I know I have seen similar photos of her meeting Hillary Clinton, but I can't find them at the moment.

I wonder how Meghan managed to get so close to all these famous people when she was relatively unknown. She seems to have been in the right place at the right time A LOT.
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Curiously said…
I haven’t yet read through all the comments so perhaps this has already been mentioned.

When I saw the name Mark Cuban, it reminded me of something I read just yesterday. I was actually searching for something else.

This is a an excerpt. The link to the page is below.

“ Ashton Kutcher, Guy Oseary, and Ron Burkle had invested in private equity deals individually, then, in 2010, formed A-Grade Investments to invest in technology startups as a group.[1]

Abe Burns is head of digital operations at the firm.[2] Chris Hollod is a partner at the firm and works directly with the founders to manage the fund.[3]

In 2012 Kutcher, Oseary and Burkle raised additional capital A-Grade from several billionaires, including David Geffen and Mark Cuban.

On May 1, 2013, onstage at TechCrunch Disrupt NYC, Kutcher and Oseary confirmed rumors that the fund was valued at over $100 million.[4]

In March 2016, Forbes published a comprehensive article on A-Grade Investments, entitled "How Ashton Kutcher And Guy Oseary Built A $250 Million Portfolio With Startups Like Uber And Airbnb,"[5] with Kutcher appearing on the cover of the magazine, which became the most-widely read issue in Forbes’ 99-year history.[6] The Forbes article states that the team turned $30m into $250m.”

https://wiki2.org/en/A-Grade_Investments
@Elle

I agree. She likely was at some dinner function at the White House where she sorta met PBO. There's a selfie of hers with BO on the background. It's apparent in that picture that that isn't a proper meeting, just mM being present at a function which her hosted.

I don't think she ever met HRC though she supported her campaign because of the whole feminism angle. That's already when she became a sworn event of Trump's and declared she would leave the US if he ever won lol. HRC was asked on some chat show ( though it was Jimmy Kimmel) if she knows MM. She said she doesn't know her personally but it's aware that MM supported her. That was a nice comment and the rent way to do it. Flash forward 2 years and HRC is an ardent supporter of hers.


As for JM, she is probably doing all this for publicity. Otherwise she is just a vapid airhead. She is extremely sensitive to criticism yet constantly puts herself out there. So passive agressive. I was recently stalking her and Ben ( because it was the dead of night and I couldn't sleep). I came across this post on her husband's Instagram. It was posted around the same time as her Kate dig. Is it just me or does this seem kinda cryptic dig to you guys too? It's about revenge and "kick the buddy" yet seems passive agressive just like his wife's post.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7zQwSDJh5I/?igshid=mn6a13lou3mb
xxxxx said…
@Curious

Same way David Geffen gets wealthier every year. Yachting! In the right location, location, location. Yachting partly for socializing with prestigious people, male and female . But what do you think the guys are talking about? Money and inside track investments aka (just sometimes) insider trading investments. They hear about the best investments long before the general public and before most of Wall Street. Plus they get coveted invites to get in early on companies like Facebook. Ya gotta know someone who knows someone who can get you the invitation to buy 1-2-3% of Facebook long before it went public IPO.

Aston Kutcher is no genius. He just knows the right people who saw him in a movie and liked him. Plus Facebook (just as an example) wanted the prestige and pizzazz of having a Hollywood star buying a piece of them. This helps immensely when the IPO comes out for the plebs.

This post was Megsy approved due to mention of yachting. Big bad 200ft+ yachts floating on the Mediterranean when Canne film festival rolls around. Also other times during summer.
MeliticusBee said…
Both Mark Cuban and Ryan Seacrest are some kind of slimey.

Seacrest was a protege of Merv Griffin - who was a serious, serious perv and super connected, super wealthy.
....and when someone insists upon multiple beard relationships and even, encourages sexual harassment allegations to distract from his sexuality....you wonder why go to such lengths? It isn't like Seacrest is a "leading man" whose career will suffer from coming out of the closet. He is already a diva - both in business and behavior.

Mark Cuban...is slimey in a different way. IMO his interest in Meghan is a personal one - for exactly the reasons you might think. His interest in the couple is all about the money.
MeliticusBee said…
Oh - and a question. Is the "duvet cover" dress worn at the Spencer wedding- the blue and white floral?
I actually like that flowing flowery style - Oscar de la Renta but I can see why others do not.
Lurking said…
Sheeeeeee's baaaaAAaack...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7946629/Meghan-Markle-actively-looking-manager-future-projects-insider-claims.html
Just seen this:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1235680/prince-harry-news-media-complaint-dismissed-IPSO-ruling-meghan-markle

Prince Harry dealt huge blow as Duke’s media complaint dismissed
PRINCE Harry and Meghan Markle have lost their battle with the Mail on Sunday after press regulator IPSO backed the news publication over the royal couple.
I know this is just one of their various press complaints, but I'm wondering if it's a sign of things to come regarding the rest?
Jen said…
@Alice, Surrey James...

It was posted around the same time as her Kate dig. Is it just me or does this seem kinda cryptic dig to you guys too? It's about revenge and "kick the buddy" yet seems passive agressive just like his wife's post.

It may be a dig, or it may just be a cute anecdote about his daughter, with a plug for the game and the Mandalorian saga, which seems to be something everyone is going on about because of baby Yoda (who is adorable, FWIW) . My niece plays that Kick the Buddy game, it's weird.
lizzie said…
MeliticusBee asked:

"Is the "duvet cover" dress worn at the Spencer wedding- the blue and white floral?
I actually like that flowing flowery style - Oscar de la Renta but I can see why others do not."

That's the one!

I would have liked the dress on someone else or if it had been altered to fit M. While the style was flowing and loose, it did have a waist. And because M has a high waist, the top just looked super droopy. And that tiny white structured hat just looked so odd with that style dress.
@Lurking, ‘Prince Harry dealt huge blow as Duke’s media complaint dismissed
PRINCE Harry and Meghan Markle have lost their battle with the Mail on Sunday after press regulator IPSO backed the news publication over the royal couple.’

I’m not sure if you’ve read the article in full. 😉They’ve only lost their case regarding the elephant images shown on their IG account regarding Earth Day of elephants. Not the one against her father.
SwampWoman said…
Russia has lost a lot of power/influence in the world today and if push comes to shove, I do not believe they can even hold Siberia which China is slowly infiltrating. Their birth rate is plummeting along with their population.

There have been three arrests (that I am aware of) this past week of Chinese nationals working at labs being arrested for espionage and/or smuggling. About a month ago, two Chinese Americans, the man an officer in the Navy on a submarine were arrested for passing top secret info about our submarines to mainland China (and is jailed awaiting trial). Every student and professor from mainland China with family at home is a hostage to the government and will do as they ask because of the carrot and stick of bribes/threats to family members.

(Tinfoil hat on.) Were I to think about bad actors behind shadowy machinations, I'd be looking at the Chinese as well, except that they seemed more fixated on stealing industrial and military secrets. However, Senator Dianne Feinstein's 20-year-driver was a Chinese spy. The Clintons were beneficiaries of Chinese money. (I don't know if anybody even remembers the scandal of then VP Gore soliciting Chinese money at Buddhist temples. He wasn't elected because of his green plans (bigass multiple houses and worldwide jet travel and luxury accommodations for ME but not for you peasants!) but because he was suspected of being bought/paid for by Chinese.) I've read accounts of widespread Chinese money being spread about to American politicians so maybe thinking about Chinese involvement wouldn't be off the table. (Tinfoil hat off.)

While I think that globalists trying to erase the national identity of countries may be behind this attack on the royals (and I look at the concerted attacks of groups against anything that represents American sovereignty from borders to citizenship to registering illegals to vote to fundamentally change our country as part of this). There is no reason that it couldn't be a collusion between various bad actors worldwide. (For those that do not know, all of our cultural icons have been under attack from Christianity to national monuments including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and the constitution itself.)

Using an actress of limited ability and no morals as an American agent of discord and trying to whip up animus between the USA and UK countries as racism charges being thrown about seems to be part of the script. However, we (majority of Americans) really don't care about her plus her racism charges are laughable, so there's that. If she wants to comment about fleeing to avoid 'pedophile' Andrew, why is she being interviewed on a Disney-owned station when Disney has had rumors of employees sexually abusing child actors for YEARS? Not to mention that she is a product of Hollywood that is rampant with the same sexual abuse problems, and she is an enthusiastic product at that.

Personally, I think the dastardly duo (or the people behind them) are going to come up with something worse to try to incite Americans/British against each other. World events are about to overshadow them, however, if Dr. Gabriel Leung from Hong Kong is correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=CwXMPsbxFfo&feature=emb_logo

@Raspberry, that's why I popped the second post on about various press stuff after I'd posted it but I wasn't very clear, sorry. I should have pasted more of the article, or at least part that mentioned the elephants.
Which reminds me, do we have a definitive list of their various complaints towards the press? I know there's the Thomas/letter case, and I remember something about phone hacking was mentioned, then there's the elephant one that's just been ruled on - are there any others currently in the works?
gloriosa said…
@ nutties

personal observation regarding post about David Geffen and others about favourable deals. A while back TM was interviewed? about the MM/TE wedding in ? with people saying he wasn't there. Lies said he, I paid, I was present just not prepared to be photographed in a swimsuit. Where did you get the money to pay for a destination wedding? Oh years ago, through work I was offered shares in a company called Facebook before they were listed, sold the shares to pay for said wedding. Anyone else remember and find it strange?

I will also be joining the Nutties in a quiet area with a suitable book. ISTJ - A, so please no tales of woe, when I am trying to read.
Jen said…
@Swampwoman, very well said. China is a big player, but have mostly been quiet. Russia, may very well be a big player, but I often see them being more boisterous about their exploits for intimidation.

While I have my reservations about MM being part of some global attempt to destroy the monarchy, if she was/is, then her life IS in danger. She's a liability now, and as I said previously, taking her out would put the blame squarely at the feet of the RF.
Portcitygirl said…
@Swampwoman, thank you for such an informative post!
@Jen

Lol, I thought that must be a kids game reference. But I didn't know for sure. Us I've been on the blog so.ling everything related to anyone connected to MM seems suspicious. I mean, come on I was stalking JM and Ben's insta, I must be going crazy! Need to meditate more.

Mark Cuban : He doesn't have a very good reputation in silicon valley. He is considered a fame whore and as plastic as Jessica M. My husband is based in Silicon Valley and him and his buddies don't have a very good opinion about him. most enterpreneurs and respectable VCs don't think very highly of him. He is known to chase money, is shallow and has a huge ego. Plus not known to make cery good decisions lately. Very much a TMZ E!online, Meghan Markle famclub type of guy.
Jen said…
@Alice, Surrey James,

Honestly, if she had just showed me the game a few weeks ago, I wouldn't know a thing about it. I did have to look it up when you said the name, because I didn't know it's name, but it's definitely the game she showed me. It really is pretty weird. I was tempted to tell her she couldn't play it because it is pretty vicious in it's "revenge" but it's not very realistic and she's a sweet girl, so I don't think it will do any harm. Ivy seems a bit young to be playing it though, JMO.

Cuban has had a bad reputation with his employees too; there have been a lot of rumors about his sexual harassment of female employees, but they're too afraid to talk, etc..etc. He was also accused of sexual assault a few years back as well. I wouldn't be surprised if his name becomes linked with Epstein, eventually.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
SwampWoman said...
Russia has lost a lot of power/influence in the world today and if push comes to shove, I do not believe they can even hold Siberia which China is slowly infiltrating. Their birth rate is plummeting along with their population.
____________________________________________

Russia has indeed lost any claim they might have had to international prestige. But Russia has to keep on Russia-ing. That is, putting spanners into any works they can. They like it. It is their raison d'etre.

As for China, their raison d'etre is stealing. They convinced the Clintons, with the Clintons' complicity, to wholesale reap incredible American technology in return for phony "legitimacy". We will be paying the price for generations.
Fairy Crocodile said…
As a British taxpayer I am mostly concerned with two things: taxes spent on Markles and them representing UK in any capacity. If both issues are resolved I don't care what Markle is doing and how much money is paid to her by Netflix. Not my business. I made up my mind about both Harry and his wife.

I can assure you the way the world is bigger news will always blow Markles out of the front pages.

By the way, they are telling us lies about the coronavirus. If it is no more dangerous than a flu why governments are panicking? Every day people die from flu but I don't see huge headlines about it. I am sure there is something they are not telling us to avoid even bigger panic.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@FairyCrocodile --

There is flu, and there is flu.

Should we be scared?

The Spanish flu shortly after World War I was very scary. It killed a LOT of people. Millions around the world. It did not go away.

I, myself, lived through it. I could not get out of bed for a week. Literally. I did my "business" in my bed, along with my husband. Thank G-d for caring relatives.

Let's hope this latest scourge goes away.
"
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ I didn't live through the 1918 epidemic. But I suffered through a similar strain.
PaisleyGirl said…
@FairyCrocodile, I certainly think the Chinese government is downplaying the number of people infected with the Corona virus. I saw an article where Chinese nurses estimated the number of infected people at 90.000, and that was several days ago when the official number was around 3000.
Sandie said…
@Lurking With Spoon: 'Which reminds me, do we have a definitive list of their various complaints towards the press? I know there's the Thomas/letter case, and I remember something about phone hacking was mentioned, then there's the elephant one that's just been ruled on - are there any others currently in the works?'

Meghan's legal action:

In October 2019, law firm Schillings, acting for Meghan, filed a High Court claim against the Mail on Sunday and its parent company Associated Newspapers over:

1. the alleged misuse of private information,

2. infringement of copyright (unlawfully published a handwritten letter from Meghan to her father), and

3. breach of the Data Protection Act 2018.

Prince Harry:

He has launched two separate legal proceedings against the owners of the Daily Mirror and The Sun newspapers over alleged phone-hacking (the illegal interception of voicemail messages). It is unclear when the alleged activity took place, and whether it relates to the phone-hacking scandal of 2005-7 and 2009-11. (Kate Middleton had her messages hacked 155 times in the space of a few months between 2005 and 2006, including on Christmas Day and Valentine's Day. William was hacked 35 times, and Harry 9 times.)

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I am hoping that China REAPS what it has sown all these long years. They are THIEVES. Any claim they have to legitimacy in the world stage is due to THEFT. From the United States. With the complicity of everyone from Nixon to Clinton.

Now they are infecting the entire world with …. infection.

Slimeballs. Thanks for NOTHING
Sandie said…
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/30/prince-harry-loses-complaint-drugged-tethered-animal-pictures-12154066/

This is not related to the law suits ...
@Lt. Nyota, ‘I didn't live through the 1918 epidemic. But I suffered through a similar strain. ‘

Without trying to appear rude, I was just about to ask just how old are you if you lived through the Spanish flu of 1918! So glad you clarified!🤗😂

I had the bad flu strain of late 1999 and was ill for 3 months. Flu is deadly and kills. The coronavirus I’m not sure if it’s like SARS (but caught in a different way), but I just see as contagious and deadly, that’s all I need to know for now. 😟
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Sorry …

Lest anyone think I haven't forgotten the Harkles, au contraire.

I am sick to the death that they are even a …. thing … in our culture.

Not sure why they are even a … thing … . They are not evil.

They are jellyfish. Jellyfish cannot destroy anything, on their own. They simply inhabit their spaces. They wreck them, and then move on.

I want to blame HM the Queen, but no one, not even her, could have foreseen these …. creatures.
xxxxx said…
@SwampWoman
I keep current with the same news you do. Thomas Clancy wrote a novel about the Chinese taking over Siberia from the Russkies.

The Bear and the Dragon - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_and_the_Dragon
The Bear and the Dragon is a techno-thriller novel, written by Tom Clancy , and released on August 21, 2000. A direct sequel to Executive Orders (1996), President Jack Ryan deals with a war between Russia and China, referred respectively in the title as the Russian Bear and the Chinese Dragon. At over 1,028 pages, it is Clancy's longest novel.

China is our biggest threat. Not Russia, though their oligarchs are an interesting crew. If you see Mr Carlson on TV he harps on this all the time. Minus the oligarchs. We all know why the Dems hate Russia and make them into the big bad bogey man. 60% of it is racial. Putin is the roughest, toughest, most macho white leader on the planet so he is made into an evil figure. Their whipping boy. Russia is in demographic decline, does not have the human numbers/population to give us real problems.
It took The Donald to come along and start trade equalization with China.

China, Japan and Korea are all very good at long range thinking and planning. Taiwan too I suppose. This is why they do well economically. For example, Toyota has a 100 year plan. Which is a great idea even if they only accomplish 33%.
Hikari said…
@Paisley

>>>How did she manage to afford Sunshine Sachs when she was still working on Suits? Who paid for her extensive travels at that time? And who paid for the Tig website? Who put her in Harry's orbit? How did she manage to get the humanitarian gigs around that time? How did she, as an unknown cable actress, manage to meet Obama, Hillary Clinton, Ellen?<<<

Megsy was photographed in the same room with Obama (interesting that she made sure there was a picture), and she may have shaken his hand, but the same could be said for any citizen who obtained a ticket to a campaign event, of which there are many. Since I've been living in my current city, we've had multiple Presidential visits, open to limited numbers of the public via ticket from G.W. Bush, Obama and Trump. I did not attend any of these because it would have been a madhouse. Tickets are issued in order to allow the Secret Service to vet each attendee. My boss's husband was on the organizing committee for a recent Trump visit, and she was not able to join him at the last minute that day because ticketholders had already been vetted and the guest list complete 48 hours before the President's visit.

When I was 12 years old, I saw President Jimmy Carter disembarking from Air Force One at Dobbins AFB in Georgia. He was home for a visit; my father, then USAF reserve was doing a two-week training at Dobbins and the families were invited to the base to watch POTUS arrive. We were about 100 yards back, behind a cordon, but we got to see Jimmy and Rosalyn exit the plane . . two tiny figures waving.

Were I Rachel, I'd list that on my resume as having met President Carter.

*****

We only have Rachel's say-so that she met Ellen and Hillary, and if those women have colluded in her story, they are as corrupt and shady as she. They are doing it for a reason. Oh, let's not forget also that Rachel 'met' Mrs. Obama, by crashing a book signing Michelle was at and trying to monopolize her in conversation when she was on a tight schedule. And then, remember, Rachel interviewed Michelle 'over a lunch of chicken tacos."

Anything Rachel says has the ring of inauthenticity. She could claim she made French toast for breakfast (egg-free), and I wouldn't believe that, either.

*********

Hikari said…
I always assumed that Rachel's pre-Royal travel, luxury vacations/lodging/meals and social media site were funded at least in part by her Soho House contacts, in exchange for considerations, which included free advertising on the Tig and possibly sexual favors as well. I haven't got any proof, but I don't think Rach would have flinched if asked to provide the latter. It is in her wheelhouse. Soho House Toronto was launched in 2014; that's when she met Marcus Anderson and the Mulroneys, who are founding members. Edward Enninful, BritVogue editor was romantically linked to Anderson & is also a founder member. Meg registered her Tig website this year--it was a low-rent rip-off of 'The Coveteur' website done by the Soho House owner. That same year she also met Mischa Nonoo in Miami. Soho House is the thread that runs through all of Rachel's useful so-called friendships. She did a lot of wheeling and dealing to get upgrades, etc. Lord only knows what that wheeling and dealing entailed.

Mischa Nonoo is supposedly the 'mutual friend' that introduced Rachel to Harry . . if one buys her official version of events re. the 'blind date'. Rach actually met Harry at the Invictus pre-launch dinner in Toronto in May of 2016, not July. In that engagement interview the pair couldn't actually get their stories straight as to when they had met and how long they'd been dating. The chef for the Invictus dinner was Cory Vitiello. Obviously the reason for the fudged 'blind date' was to try to cover the fact that there had been overlap between Cory and Harry. The breakup came swiftly for Cory, which surprised his parents as much as it had him, since Rach lived with him most of the time and he'd told them he planned to propose to her.

Cory, you dodged a bullet, mate.

Soho House got Rachel into the Royal Family, and proceeded to give her 'projects' once she was installed--the disastrous SmartSet venture; the equally disastrous Vogue issue. I don't think Vladimir Putin and the Russians would have been at all interested in a social climbing starlet with her eye on a Prince before the marriage, but afterwards . . ? She is easily the type they could and would want to exploit. Materialistic and amoral people from fractured families have few to no meaningful ties and are very susceptible to being bought. Just the kind of person they recruit to become spies.

As each day passes, it begins to look more and more mystifying why this shady woman was ever allowed entry into the Royal family. How did she ever pass a background check by the security services? How are the Harkles now being permitted to stay long-term in a house owned by Russians? The dispatches from London 'worrying about the 'fragile' couple 'not coping'' sound, between the lines, like frantic concern that the Harkles are selling the Crown out to Russia, even if they don't realize they are doing it.

Elizabeth's reign is now irrevocably tarnished, I'm afraid. The only way to salvage it is to bring everything out in the light and put an end to the Rachel situation for good and all before HM passes on. HM still gets dolled up and goes to church every Sunday, smiling. She must be quite well-insulated from some of the uglier elements of this situation.
MeliticusBee said…
@Paisley et al
I read that the Chinese government is keeping the "numbers down" by not providing testing kits. Reportedly only 10% of the sites had kits - which means 90% don't
If you don't test...you don't get confirmed diagnosis.

This is actually a common tactic in medical research studies where side effects will compromise approval. You don't even have to go so far as manipulation of data. If you don't want a certain answer - don't ask the question.
Assuming these reports are correct - that would likely put the number of infections at well over 100K - two days ago when the number was approaching 9,000.
And - a lot of people have stayed home so the numbers are exponentially higher. As for reported deaths...again, unless a dead person is tested - it won't get listed as "caused by bat flu"
So you could have thousands dead of "unknown" cause...and the Chinese are not known to be forthcoming.

It is clearly a waiting game and the only good news is that there doesn't appear to be a huge spread outside of China/Hong Kong...yet. We also don't have a good grip on how long the incubation time is so...?
Hikari said…
P.S. Rachel's 'humanitarian gigs' were courtesy of her paid PR, Kruger-Cowne. I think they arranged all the foreign 'modeling shoots' of Rach posing with cute kids--once and never again--the One World Summit, the DirectTV event where she met Serena Williams. She met the Clooneys via Harry, since George has been a long-time friend to both boys . . he was at William's wedding as a bachelor in 2011.

The fact that George is pallsy with William and Harry does not reflect well on the boys, I'm afraid. George is a seriously dodgy character with a lot of skeletons in his closet . . and Amal is a bead, writ large.
SwampWoman said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said...As for China, their raison d'etre is stealing. They convinced the Clintons, with the Clintons' complicity, to wholesale reap incredible American technology in return for phony "legitimacy". We will be paying the price for generations.

They sold us out big time (and by us, I mean citizens and companies in the USA and, indeed, the entire western world) with the willing collusion of other politicians for personal gain.

Meanwhile, I'm popping corn and watching Hillary Clinton refusing to be served for the $50 million defamation of character lawsuit by Tulsi Gabbard.




Hikari said…
*beard*, not bead . . lol
MeliticusBee said…
@Hikari
George Clooney has..."skeletons in the closet"

More like - skeletons found at the bottoms of cliffs...😉
Portcitygirl said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura, I've popped some myself.
I have projects to finish for customers and can't look away. My brain is exploding! Lol!
hunter said…
everyone on reddit says the Chinese are cheaters - zillions of stories from students all over who say their Chinese classmates plagiarize like crazy and without restraint and because they pay exorbitant student fees, the universities choose to overlook it

cheating is considered a fair strategy in China

I don't like that.
Hikari said…
@MBee

>>>George Clooney has..."skeletons in the closet"
More like - skeletons found at the bottoms of cliffs...<<<

Um, yes . . I didn't like to say. I'm sure the poor boy is no longer at the bottom of the cliff but has been retrieved and properly buried.

I wish I could go back to the days when I admired him on 'ER'. Ignorance really can be bliss. Now that I know too much about this ugly world, I doubt I will ever be capable of true uncomplicated happiness ever again.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Clooney is enjoying himself on his money. He will offer nothing to Markle.
MeliticusBee said…
@Hunter - I believe the Chinese excel at copying and reproducing but aren't that great in terms of innovation. Everything I have read and experienced in a business sense with China is that...well, it's not good.

On the HAMS front - twitter is trending #NewJobsForMeghanAndHarry and the responding tweets are not flattering.
Hikari said…
@Jen and all, Re. Mark Cuban

>>>Cuban has had a bad reputation with his employees too; there have been a lot of rumors about his sexual harassment of female employees, but they're too afraid to talk, etc..etc. He was also accused of sexual assault a few years back as well. I wouldn't be surprised if his name becomes linked with Epstein, eventually.<<<

I'd love for Meg the hypocrite to ink a deal with Mark Cuban . . Cuban is the producer of the Trumpie vehicle 'The Apprentice', back in the days before he wanted to be President.

In another aside, one of my resolutions this year was to stop buying Made in China. That is VERY hard to avoid.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…

@MBee said:

@Hunter - I believe the Chinese excel at copying and reproducing but aren't that great in terms of innovation.
________________________________

So, what does that do to our efforts, as humans, to climb higher? Isn't that the mandate we have as the price we pay to live on this earth?

What does it add to the upward climb that an entire group of people are thieves?
Jen said…
@Hikari

What is this about a Clooney, a boy and a cliff?


I just can't believe that Harry is such a jerk, that he would sanction those two shows that were on last night. They pretty much called his family racist. He can't possibly believe that's why they didn't like her...I know he's a few crayons short of a full box, but I didn't realize he was ready for the short bus.
@Meliticus,’We also don't have a good grip on how long the incubation time is so...? ‘

Way off topic. 🥴 I’ve read up to 2 weeks. You can be infected and not show signs for up to a week.
Hikari said…
>>>I believe the Chinese excel at copying and reproducing but aren't that great in terms of innovation.<<<

The same could be said of the Japanese . . their knack is taking an existing idea or product and making it better.

I lived in a Japanese university town for six years in the 1990s. I taught English classes at this university once a week and had the opportunity to meet a number of Chinese students studying there. I was impressed by their sense of community--they'd all get together regularly to pool their resources and cook group meals and celebrate their national holidays.

They were extremely hard-working and grateful for the opportunity to study abroad. They lived very simply on not much money but even so the standard of living and social freedoms of Japan were much upgraded from what they were used to at home. They were determined to excel and make a success . .which meant the ability to get good jobs outside of China, for the most part. They had to deal with a fair amount of discrimination, because while the Japanese were happy to pay me, a white American, good money to learn English, they were less enthused about Chinese students coming to their country, given the historical hostilities between the two countries that go back centuries. The Japanese believe themselves to be the superior nation in Asia and look down upon all their neighbors as a result.

The Communist state does not reward individual achievement and excellence, but this is the first I am hearing about Chinese students cheating en masse.
MeliticusBee said…
Oooh...CDAN says polo player friend of Harry's (Noah Figuero?) says that Harry has attempted suicide multiple times.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/blind-item-7_30.html
Wanda said…
@Raspberry Ruffle @Miggy
Re: ‘Inside the Crown: Secrets of the Royals.’

Raspberry said: "It’s more of a historical documentary and they’ve showed stuff that people have never heard of before (they’ve been allowed to uncover some letters in the archives). It’s very good and factual."
**********************************************
This does sound like a great series! I do enjoy British monarchy history. I hope I can find all 4 episodes here in the US when they have finished airing.

The advert for tonight's episode mentions the Harkles and I wonder if they will cover any new info or insight? Quote: "It starts with a timely look at how the media targeted Meghan Markle when she started dating Prince Harry..."

Raspberry / Miggy - can you please let us know what is said re the Harkles? TIA :-)
brown-eyed said…
@Nutty

Hope you don’t mind my posting this:

Link to Coronavirus Live Map at John Hopkins U. Updated all the time. Very interesting to see how it changes.

This a.m. — 6,000 cases, all but 1,000 in China.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Sorry the link is so long. You can also google “live map Coronavirus” and find it that way.

I hope none of the royal family gets sick.
Meowwww said…
Watching the second one now on DVR. How old is Omid and why is his lower lip so much more red than his top lip?
@Astra....not a Putin fan, but I will admit his shirtless horse riding pics were...nice. As a horse person, though, if he falls off on the rocky ground, he’s gonna get scraped up.
I have a secret crush on Gordon Ramsey.
PaisleyGirl said…
@MeliticusBee, this does not surprise me. The news reports coming out that the BRF is worried about the fragile state of the Harkles, giving them an opening to come back home, says to me that the situation in the Canadian villa is very bad indeed. And the situation with Harry has probably been bad for a long time. Which is probably why HMTQ and Charles have given the Harkles more than one would have expected upon their exit. They love Harry and are probably very worried about his mental state and what he might do to himself. Upsetting him further at this point would make things worse.
Wanda said…
CDAN's latest blind:
"This foreign born A+ list athlete in his sport which no one really watches except for rich people says the royal has attempted suicide more than once."

Nacho and Harry. I totally believe this blind and have mentioned here on Nutty's blog a number of times that Harry's depression and possible suicide ideation might be driving certain aspects of the story.

Someone mentioned in the comment section on CDAN that MM got Harry to stop taking his antidepressants. If there is any truth to this, it is despicable and I really hope he is ok.
MeliticusBee said…
@Hikari
<>


Copy and reproduce vs copy and improve
My experience from business and such is that the Chinese copy and reproduce in the fastest, cheapest way possible. This is OK in some things - but not in things where quality control is an issue - like steel, pharmaceuticals - even dog food and construction supplies. The US economy and supply streams have a huge problem because they have become reliant on cheap Chinese...crap.
The Japanese have had production standards much higher than the U.S. - forever, but charge correspondingly for quality.

In any case - I have no personal knowledge of academic cheating - just of stolen patents and intellectual property and suppliers who can't be held to account when their products are substandard. They are protected by the government.
@Bluebell,’Raspberry / Miggy - can you please let us know what is said re the Harkles? TIA :-) ‘

I’ll do my best and try and take some notes like some fellow Nutties did last night. I thought the note taking was a good idea, butterfly brains tend to get the better of me otherwise! 😁🙄
Wanda said…
Thanks Raspberry! It doesn't sound like there will be too much on the Harkles but I'm interested in what a British program has to say about their media coverage.
Jen said…
While it is known that Harry has some issues, I didn't think they were so bad that he's attempted suicide. Despite everything that is going on and what he has done to his family, I would truly hate to see him kill himself. I feel a bit sick just thinking of it.

Sandie said…
The Sussexes are not as popular as they think they are, and the bad news seems to be piling up:

1. Harry loses his complaint against MOS about an article about a photo of a tethered elephant on his IG.

2. The viewing figures for the two recent documentaries on the Sussexes had dismal viewing figures, especially among the 18-49 age group.

3. Friends/acquaintances are talking to the media and saying that the relationship between Meghan and Doria is not actually close.

What other bad news have they had lately, and how bad is it going to get?
LavenderToast said…
@hunter

"everyone on reddit says the Chinese are cheaters - zillions of stories from students all over who say their Chinese classmates plagiarize like crazy and without restraint and because they pay exorbitant student fees, the universities choose to overlook it"

I can second that as I experienced profound disgust that at a top ten university decades ago, there was abundant cheating among the students and me being honest and wanting to learn was at an extreme disadvantage when it came for grades. So guess who got into the Top Med School and Grad schools, not I, but they did! However, I am proud I wasn't a cheat and still am.
MeliticusBee said…
@Sandie
<>

Hopefully - bad enough that he goes home - without her.

AND
CDAN has another - horrible blind about PA.
Just awful. Basically accusing PA of assaulting a friend of one of the girls in the SAME pizza place he claimed he was at when Virginia Guiffre said he was having sex with her (as "proof" that he wasn't near VRG). Blind claims that the assault victim WAS going to be in upcoming wedding but after the interview which mentioned the Pizza place...decided to NOT be in the wedding.
This is pretty outrageous but you'll have to judge.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/todays-blind-items-excuse.html

Incidentally - a lot of people thought it was extremely tone-deaf on the conspiracy front for him to use a "pizza" place as an excuse...because no one believed it.

SwampWoman said…
Off topic alert re: Novel Coronavirus Wuhan so you can skip.

I believe somebody above asked the question about time for incubation. First H2H transmission in USA diagnosed in Chicago. Woman returned from Wuhan Jan 13, went into hospital for symptoms two or three days later, I think, and tested positive for Coronavirus Wuhan on the 24th. Roommate tested positive today, seventeen days after initial patient returned from China. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-spreads-first-time-u-s-cdc-says-n1126566

Here is the original statement: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention today confirmed a second person in the U.S. tested positive for the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The woman in her 60s traveled to the Wuhan, China, region in late December and returned home to Chicago Jan. 13 asymptomatic. She had limited contact and alerted health care providers of symptoms a few days later before going to the hospital, where she is in stable condition and in isolation, as a precaution. Because of the roughly two-week incubation period, CDC is working with the five U.S. airports screening for the virus to hand out information cards to passengers. CDC said 63 U.S. patients are under investigation. The first U.S. case was identified Monday in Washington state, but officials say the risk of transmission to the general public remains low. As of today, there are more than 830 confirmed cases worldwide and at least 26 associated deaths. For more information and resources, including a Jan. 23 Quality Advisory, visit AHA’s coronavirus update page.
SwampWoman said…
Correction: Person infected by woman returning from Wuhan was husband, not roommate.

There was a lot of speculation that the virus did not infect women as readily as men because of the numbers in China being more male than female. I suppose they didn't think about there being more men infected than women because of the population imbalance due to the (past) one-child and forced abortion policy.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/30/801235064/1st-person-to-person-spread-of-coronavirus-has-occurred-in-u-s-cdc-says?live=1
hunter said…
Interesting fresh post (2 hours) on US Weekly where two "sources" claim MM and her mom are barely close at all.

Who would have sent in this article? An anti-MM side or MM herself to promote her own controversy?
Nelo said…
LOOL. US WEEKLY IS REPORTING THAT MEGHAN ISNT CLOSE TO DORIA. COULD IT BE THAT MEGHAN WAS AWARE THAT US WEEKLY WAS WORKING ON THIS STORY AND QUICKLY HAD TO LEAK THE STORY ON HOW DORIA IS THE FORCE BEHIND MEGXIT?

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markle-isnt-very-close-with-mom-doria-ragland/
hunter said…
oops here is link:

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markle-isnt-very-close-with-mom-doria-ragland/
hunter said…
Ha ha Nelo - Jinx!!
Nelo said…
@Hunter, I don't think 'any side' sent the story. I believe that US WEEKLY may have decided to investigate the story that DM wrote
Wanda said…
KCM1212 said...
"Does anyone else think the Harkles probably got paid for both the specials last night?"
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I'm trying to decide who generated the 2 specials last night. I don't think they were PR attempts or that they came directly from the Harkle camp - there was a lot of negative Harkle info provided on both shows.

I also don't think the Harkles would have made money from the 2 programs...although I don't know how it works with their copyrighted materials. Both programs used the video clip of the MM survive / thrive whine.

I think the genesis probably just came from current public interest. Members of the royal family have abdicated and moved to North America - it's a major story so I guess the 2 networks jumped on this narrative to hopefully provide content for ratings.

The story that Meghan has been treated unfairly due to her race has been out there and has been puffed and pushed, so these programs picked up on that and unfortunately promoted it even further.

I noticed in both programs a lot of what I would call "half news" - (I don't know if there is a journo name for this) not fake news - but half-a-story news. An example of which would be their discussion of the difference between reporting on the two duchesses yet not mentioning how Kate was also the target of the British tabs when she was new to the RF.

@Nutty and anyone else with knowledge of the journalism / media world - Do you think the producers of these shows had to get permission from the Harkles for any of the content or quotes from those interviewed that was included? Do you think the Harkles would have been involved in any way at all? Would they have earned any money from the use of their copyrighted materials?
SwampWoman said…
Re Doria and Megsy not being close: Bwahahaha, good job, Nutty and Nuttybloggers! (I know that we talked about this very subject about how can they be close when Doria has been the invisible woman for most of their married life. Oh, sure, Archie can visit Arch, but Grandma Doria? Nope.)
Wanda said…
@Hunter and Nelo - Wow and that is something we here and at other blogs and forums have been saying for a long time - that she and her mother are NOT CLOSE! LOL!!

More dirt please NOW!!!!
SwampWoman said…


I call it heavily biased news.
Jen said…
I have always believed her relationship with her mother was ALL about the optics of being a WoC. And since she taught MM not to do anything for free, MM probably had to pay her to play the part of "doting momma." She looked MISERABLE at the wedding, and even in the christening photo (not to mention the photo with HM and PP). Does the woman ever smile?

I also do not believe for a second that she's been like a second mother to Harry, she's barely a first mother to MM. It's almost pathetic how much Megsy is trying to make Harry JUST like William (who many believe is the man he is today because of the Middleton family). She truly does not have a story of her own, does she? She appropriates stories from other people, then makes it her own (or Harry's). It's truly sad.
SwampWoman said…
BlueBell Woods said...More dirt please NOW!!!!

Well, considering how we do the evening late night blog reading with an adult drink, perhaps they are going to portion it out slowly in fear for the health of our livers.
lizzie said…
@BlueBell Woods asked about use of film from the SA interview with Tom B.

"Do you think the producers of these shows had to get permission from the Harkles for any of the content or quotes from those interviewed that was included?"

I'm not a copyright expert but I expect ITV holds the copyright on the survive/thrive docudrama, not H&M.
MaLissa said…
Hello Nutties!! Just wandered in during my lunch break (yeah its late but been working on a project) to catch up on the daily scoop. Missed the 2 shows that were talked about. I'll have to go look at ABC On Demand and see if its on there so I can watch it.

@Lt. Nyota Uhura love the quotes that you interject every so often and very true regarding the topic.

Charade said... Steve Martin dropped by LSSC after those specials aired here. He’s touring the UK with Martin Short and made a couple of jokes about H&M: https://youtu.be/syXVAuSzZg4

First joke: He responded to Colbert saying there were a couple of openings in the royal family now and maybe they could fill them. He says, the difference between Marty and him to them is “we show up.”

Second joke: Steve Martin remarks that Meg gave HMTQ a bracelet for her 93rd birthday engraved with “Do Not Resuscitate.”


Love the jokes from Steve Martin.

@Elle Good luck in your new job boring as it seems but I think it's badass and cool!! :)

@Miggy Thanks for letting me know ab0ut "Inside The Crown: Secrets of the Royals" that has 4 episodes. I'll have to look that one up - when I get an hour or so.

@ Suzanne Wilson I just took that "test" and ended up ENTJ-A (16personalities.com), weird I would have thought I was more introverted than extravert. I have no problems being alone for hours or days just being me, thinking and doing things I enjoy. On the other had, I don't have a problem mingling and socializing and being in a huge crowd of people, drinking, eating, dancing, chatting, having profound discussion on the meaning of life and such.~~Shrugs~~

Hikari said... Nacho Figeuras seems like a tool, not above exploiting “best mate” Harry in order to sell cologne. Lots of celebrities [...] etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum..
A lie repeated 1000 times does not become truth but this is what Rachel has based her entire existence upon.

Good post!!

Louise said... Jessica Mulroney has put her IG account on private. She must have been receiving a lot of negative comments due to her mocking of the Holocaust survivor photos.

Interesting since she identifies as Jewish.

Well, I'd love to read and comment more but gotta run. Have a great day everybody!!
Wanda said…
LOL SwampWoman!! I guess I'll take the dirt any way I can...
For MM to take H off his antidepressants is surely tantamount to a criminal act.
Miggy said…
@Malissa,

Thanks for letting me know ab0ut "Inside The Crown: Secrets of the Royals" that has 4 episodes. I'll have to look that one up - when I get an hour or so.

You're welcome. :) It's on ITV and each episode is an hour long. (including the ads)

@Bluebell Woods

Raspberry / Miggy - can you please let us know what is said re the Harkles? TIA :-)

Will do my best! ;-)
Hikari said…
>>>>For MM to take H off his antidepressants is surely tantamount to a criminal act.

Is that what she's done? Doesn't surprise me..it's in her interest to have him mentally unstable and therefore more easy to control. If Harry hurts himself as a result, she could be up on criminal charges, yes. Particularly if she physically took the medication away from him and hid it somewhere/threw it out or had his prescriptions stopped AMA vs. just suggesting to him that 'he didn't need it'.

I am very unhappy with Harry, but it is glaringly obvious that he does not have full agency in his actions due to a number of psychological/medical impairments. Traditionally, VIPs like him do not receive the intervention they need in time to stop a tragedy. They surround themselves with sycophants who fuel the negative behavior and anyone daring to speak up and suggest moderation or professional help is removed.

So, I am extremely worried about what is going on with him. If he were happy and relieved to be 'free' of his family and healthy and in a good place, I feel like we'd be seeing some evidence that they are moving forward with activities. There hasn't been anything. Haz doesn't like getting his picture taken, but if they aren't seen, we will have no way of knowing if he's even remotely all right. He could die; how long could that be hidden? She's been hiding Archie for a year now, so it could be managed.

Hope he is at least in touch with his family, but seeing the way he left, he probably isn't.

This is not going to end well.
LavenderToast said…
@Wild Boar Battle-Maid

"For MM to take H off his antidepressants is surely tantamount to a criminal act."

If she withheld it, that might be criminal but if she talked him out of taking them he has a right to refuse taking medicine, everyone does (unless they are under some court order). If true, he is not taking anti-dep. meds and she had a hand in it, I can hear her gently urging Harry to forgo the pills due to them being;
1. Cancer causing (whether true or not)
2. They would reduce his sex drive/ability.
3. They might cause a fertility problem (again, whether true or not).
4. They are what the BRF would want him to do.
5. It could actually cause him to be suicidal (known side-effect for many of these).
6. Can cause him to gain weight.
7. May cause him to suffer involuntary muscle twitches (tardive dyskinesia) which may be permanent.
8. Bad for his image if found out (again not true I think).
9. Cause him to be tired (generally, most of them will).

I think she is so despicable that she likely would rather Harry be depressed and likely to depend on her. If he is not depressed he has a better chance to be strong and stand up to her. She wants a compliant Harry of that I am sure.
Camper said…
@MaLissa

For the first time ever I have just done that test, which says I’m INFJ, which sums me up perfectly, very perfectly in fact. I’m willing to give you some of my I and I’ll take a smidgeon of your E.

As an aside, I watched the first episode of The Stranger on Netflix today. It includes the stories of women that fake pregnancies, including the tests, scan pics and wearing moon bumps for various reasons. One women does it repeatedly as she can’t have children. But one of the main female characters does it because she thinks her husband has an affair. It shows flashbacks of her holding a positive test, scan pics and even her wearing a moon bump. She convinces him she has a miscarriage (around 6 months) yet it appears he can’t believe his eyes deceived him, as it shows his viewpoint in flashbacks. I was gobsmacked how real it all looked, convincingly real.
Hikari said…
OT . . The Corona virus is now in my state of Ohio, brought back by two Miami University students just returned from China. Port Columbus International Airport is 2 hours from me and is a busy international hub. Not as big as O'Hare, but tons of flights go through there.

Well, at least it takes our minds off the Harkles . . .
DesignDoctor said…
@LavenderToast

I am an academic and was told that cheating is viewed differently by Chinese students--it's a cultural difference. So what we think is cheating they do not view it as such.

I have to ask, is lavender toast an edible dish, like avocado toast or lavender honey ice cream?
Wanda said…
There is a new article in the DM about MeGain's search for an agent in her quest to return to Hollywood. Check out the following quotes which all sound as if they came directly from MM herself:

"Last week, a friend of the duchess told DailyMail.com that Meghan had informed close friends quitting the royal family is the best thing that could ever happen to Prince Harry and said 'it was her love for him that made this possible'."

"'She said that like her, his spirit was being crushed and she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore,' the friend added."

"Meghan and Harry also have no intention of stripping the word 'royal' from their SussexRoyal website and Instagram account according to the insider, who added: 'Meghan says they will always be considered royalty regardless of where they live or what they do.'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7946629/Meghan-Markle-actively-looking-manager-future-projects-insider-claims.html
Teasmade said…
@Hikari: She [ER] must be quite well-insulated from some of the uglier elements of this situation.

Or has she insulated HERSELF, burying her head in the sand, thinking that she is above it all, not culpable? I agree that sunshine would be the best disinfectant, but I just don't see that coming from her. I don't think she has it in her to come clean, that is. It IS a shame, because her failures in parenthood have mostly flown under the radar lo these seventy years.

On another matter: I work in publishing, and China's MO is **DEFINITELY** to steal. It goes way back too, centuries back. It is not racial stereotyping. It's a real thing.

I'm not even calling it "copyright infringement", as we would; it's outright theft and profiting from that theft with huge manufacturing or printing runs. Is it any surprise that individuals do it on a micro level, by cheating?

It's just another thing that people in other parts of the world do that is loathsome to us, such as killing tigers for their livers and maiming sharks by cutting off their fins and letting them suffocate and drown. Appalling. Just for some dumb soup and some stupid folkloric impotency remedy. I digress but I am passionate about it.

xxxxx said…
Haz doesn't like getting his picture taken.......

Then he should see the guy who makes Elton John's toupees.
Wanda said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7948973/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-slammed-promoting-phone-network-blamed-death-man.html

Critics accuse Prince Harry and Meghan Markle of promoting phone network blamed for death of vulnerable man
Wanda said…
Here's the story about Harry's elephant photo lawsuit loss:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7948233/Prince-Harry-loses-Ipso-complaint-criticism-wildlife-photographs.html

Prince Harry loses Ipso complaint over Mail on Sunday story that criticised his wildlife photographs that didn’t reveal the fact an elephant was 'drugged and tethered'
Wanda said…
LOL! - And here's an article about Piers' appearance in the Fox TV special last night:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7947299/Piers-Morgan-brands-Meghan-Markle-mini-royal-Kardashian.html

Piers Morgan brands Meghan Markle a 'mini royal Kardashian' who pushes 'wet drip' Prince Harry around and tells of fear 'ego-mad' pair will bring down monarchy in new Fox documentary
@BlueBell Woods said:

`she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore'

That sounds like someone putting an old dog to sleep.
@Bluebell, so far from Inside the Crown Secrets etc

Meghan complained the British press was out to get her. Harry felt compelled to act.

Palace said both princes think the press photographers killed their mother.

Eyebrows were raised by very senior courtiers when Harry released the statement in Nov 2016

I have recorded it, and will go back and re-watch, I had to pop out the room for 30 mins. 😏 From Whit I’ve seen, not much on Harry and Meghan because it was about the ‘royals and the press’.
Mimi said…
BlueBellWoods, please, please explain to me in what way(s) they were being “crushed”????????????
Miggy said…
"Inside The Crown: Secrets of the Royals" Episode 2

@Bluebell Woods

Most of the Harkle news was confirmation of what we already know.

Meghan flew back to Harry crying about press intrusion, Harry made a statement, eyebrows raised from Palace staff.

Meghan was most googled woman on planet and had now endured 3 years of relentless scrutiny.

Harry said line had been crossed. Both Princes consider press to blame for Diana's death.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

Wow - has the Queen got a temper on her!

Laughed out loud at the story of her chucking a tennis racket and shoes at a fleeing Prince Philip when on tour in Australia. LOL
SirStinxAlot said…
If I recall correctly, didn't Diana say at some point that she thought the palace doctors were drugging her?? Perhaps that could be used as an excuse to stop taking his meds. Mm could convince him he doesn't need them and suggest the palace doctors only drug him to keep him in line. True or not, the disasterous duo seem to like to run the Diana narrative alot. Again, Meghan is unoriginal just a copycat.
Hikari said…
The incident of the 'domestic' between ER and PP during their Australia tour early on is covered in Season One of The Crown. Conversation between the couple had to of course be imagined by Peter Morgan, the writer, but as he imagined it, Philip got a tennis racket thrown at his head after he suggested that no matter what Elizabeth did, Margaret had always been Daddy's favorite.

The couple was completely exhausted after visiting 36 Australian towns in 30 days and PP was still salty over having to give up his naval career to trudge behind his wife. Philip also seems to have been skilled at picking at the sorest spots in any person. I don't know how Philip actually felt about his sister-in-law, but the show has them bonding in a jokey fashion over both being overshadowed by the Crown.

The show depicts ER as going out to speak to the assembled press horde who had witnessed the fight and caught it on camera. Deference was still a thing in 1954 and they obligingly destroyed the negatives. That sure wouldn't happen today.

DesignDoctor said…
From The Cut:
A new article https://www.thecut.com/2020/01/what-we-learned-from-abcs-new-meghan-and-harry-documentary.html

I have not read it yet. On my way out the door.
lizzie said…
If it's true M stopped Harry from taking an antidepressant without medical supervision and without adding talk therapy, I think that's awful. But I can easily imagine M claiming "clean living" is better. Not that I think she does that either (if nothing else she has certainly seemed obsessed with wine for many years) but she claims to be a proponent. Just like she claims to be a foodie but thinks chicken has fewer carbs than turkey. And needs a "recipe" to cook greens.
@Miggy, ‘Wow - has the Queen got a temper on her!

Laughed out loud at the story of her chucking a tennis racket and shoes at a fleeing Prince Philip when on tour in Australia. LOL ‘

Yes she does, she has spirit! 😂😂 Margaret wasn’t the only one who was lively! 😜

I was just as surprised that the cameraman filming it had to hand over the film, or that he knew he couldn’t keep the film footage. I didn’t realise how heavily the British press was censored at the time, when it come to reporting on the royals. I thought there was ‘just’ more decorum and respect by the press regarding the royals. Instead it was censorship and decorum. 🥴

I had no idea that no photos were allowed to be shown of The Queen pregnant due to very’ Victorian’ (views) protocol etc.
Miggy said…
From the article that @DesignDoctor posted-

"So far, this has proven true; photographers have been camping out on Vancouver Island, where the Sussexes are staying, for weeks, with paparazzi photos of Meghan being released on an almost daily-basis."


So where are the photographs?
I meant censorship and deference, not decorum. 🤔
LavenderToast said…
@DesignDoctor

"I am an academic and was told that cheating is viewed differently by Chinese students--it's a cultural difference. So what we think is cheating they do not view it as such."

What happened at my university the Asian students would get together in study groups which I can see is a positive thing for them (thus a cultural difference as Americans would tend to study independently) but they would also get the quizzes and tests stolen in advance so that was clearly cheating. I don't know how it was a cultural difference to steal. unless they view it as being cunning and shrewd to outsmart the honest students. Maybe they felt they were the underdogs at an American college and they were foreign students and had it harder (in their mind). Since I was at a prestigious Uni many of the huge core classes were graded on a curve and the 'A's' and 'B's' were given to the cheats., thus honest students frequently got the 'C's'.

"I have to ask, is lavender toast an edible dish, like avocado toast or lavender honey ice cream?"

Funny you mention that, as it is precisely that, a gourmet blend made from cream cheese with honey mixed in along with fresh lavender flowers (looks beautiful) on brioche toast or for some, spread on scones/biscuits. Myself, I love the toast and a sweet latte with extra whipping cream on top.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

I was just as surprised that the cameraman filming it had to hand over the film, or that he knew he couldn’t keep the film footage. I didn’t realise how heavily the British press was censored at the time, when it come to reporting on the royals. I thought there was ‘just’ more decorum and respect by the press regarding the royals. Instead it was censorship and decorum. ��

I had no idea that no photos were allowed to be shown of The Queen pregnant due to very’ Victorian’ (views) protocol etc.


Yes, that was interesting and showed, (as noted) how much power the Royal Family had over the press.
Miggy said…
@Hikari,

I don't watch The Crown, so I'm very grateful to you for the explanation re the incident!!
Teasmade said…
@Design Doctor, who was out the door and couldn't read this:

https://www.thecut.com/2020/01/what-we-learned-from-abcs-new-meghan-and-harry-documentary.html

I learned nothing new, as it has all been perfectly summarized here. Reluctant royal, unfair Duchess comparisons, photographers camped out, valuable brand, blah blah blah.

Humor Me said…
It is beyond me where the claims of racism come from? Do these people live on the same planet as me?
Wanda said…
@Mimi said...
BlueBellWoods, please, please explain to me in what way(s) they were being “crushed”????????????
**********************************
I know, it's so silly! Those are the exact quotes from the article. I guess she/they mean because they had to follow the rules (which she didn't do anyway) and weren't allowed to go out on their own until they actually left the RF.

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@BlueBell Woods said:
`she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore'
That sounds like someone putting an old dog to sleep.
************************************
Too bad Harry doesn't quite realize who the actual person is causing him to suffer!
Wanda said…
@Raspberry and @Miggy - Thanks so much for all the intel from the royals program. It's very interesting how certain things were kept quiet years ago.
Mimi said…
They got every and anything they demanded....always...starting with shoving Eugenie’s wedding date so they could have a huge fabulous extravaganza of a wedding. They did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted. The traveled wherever they pleased whenever they pleased via private jets. They preached to people about whatever they wanted which usually was embarrassing as their speeches made no sense and were not appropriate for the time, country, people. They went off on their own almost immediately and set up their own foundation/ charity, social media, instagram. They accepted gifts or made deals for the sake of making money for themselves. They appeared at Royal engagements if, or when they wanted to. They dressed and behaved atrociously and disrespectfully. They attended non Royal occasions with many Hollywood celebrities. They flew around the world for business and pleasure. They had many “breaks”, “leaves”, “time outs”. They had a child in secret and have pretty much kept him in secret all this time. They said and did ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they wanted without anybody saying “no” to them. I CAN’T understand what was so soul crushing about their life that her love for him could not allow him to proceed with the RF one more minute!!!!!!
Wanda said…
Hikari, Sirstinxalot and all -
Since I was the one that posted the comment about Harry's antidepressants here on Nutty's blog, I just wanted to make it clear -

That was only a rumor that a poster from CDAN wrote below the blind about a royal attempting suicide more than once.
It does seem as if the blind is about Nacho and Harry. I don't know for certain though, and I'm far less certain about the rumor MM talked Harry into stopping his meds. I don't know if Harry was ever on any meds. The CDAN commenter says she got that bit from Danja Zone.

Here's the link to the blind including all the comments:

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/blind-item-7_30.html
Wanda said…
@Humor Me said...
It is beyond me where the claims of racism come from? Do these people live on the same planet as me?
************************
Regarding the claims of racism: It's only become clear to me recently that they are not just talking about what they think is outright racist behavior and media coverage, but also unfair or uneven media coverage of them/her.

When we rack our brains trying to recall any news / tabloid articles that had a racist tone, the only ones to come to mind are Straight outta Compton and the chimpanzee baby photo.

But MM is also upset over the way she was written about compared to Kate - for doing the same types of things. She has sited the baby bump cradling as an example - there are articles faulting MM for her cupping while similar stories show Kate doing the same thing and Kate is praised or at least tolerated. MM is trying to tell us that this uneven storytelling is because we are racist.

However, MM relies on half-news - she doesn't include the part of the story where Kate was also victimized by the press when she was new to the RF, AND she also conveniently leaves out the fact that Kate may have lightly cradled a hand-full of times while MM double-cupped her bump, obsessively swished aside her coat and shoved her pillow into every camera in sight CONSTANTLY for the entire time she was "pregnant".

I'm sure an explanation can be found for every set of uneven Meghan vs Kate stories in the tabs.

As more of MM's true self was revealed and her behavior worsened, she got less favorable coverage. As we have been saying all along, SHE is the creator of her own problems in England. And now she is trying to turn it around to make it seem as if she was victimized.🤮🤮🤮

What I find even more troubling is how some are defending her and blaming her "edit" on racism rather than accepting that she is just not a good person and may have very possibly scammed Harry and the RF.
There was a strong example of this on one of the programs last night when Akua H. claimed people were attributing Meghan to having dark magical powers when they complained that she had changed Harry. We can all see how Harry has changed since he became involved with MM. He does not look happy, has ghosted his friends, fallen out with his brother, deserted his family, left the military and the monarchy and looks decidedly unwell.
Unknown said…
I don't enjoy the atmosphere over on CDAN, but Enty does seem to hit it more often than not. That was where I read about Harvey Weinstein having a huge laugh in the lead-up to the wedding because he'd had sex with the bride.

Between the both of them, Haz and Rachel have probably had most of the social diseases known to man.

I think CDAN was also the source of the allusion I made earlier about a teenage boy dying by misadventure (a fall over a cliff) very close to George Clooney's vacation home. This was not Lake Como but somewhere else. According to that source, the youth slipped and fell to his death in the course of fleeing a sexual assault involving a group of men including GC. This was not available on a regular Google search, so I wish I remembered where I had originally read it. Anybody else back me up here?

I have suspected for many years that GC's succession of red carpet beauties, who never stayed on his arm more than 18 months-2 years were a series of contract relationships. George had his romantic leading man status to uphold. After the early and very brief marriage to Talia Balsam, GC was vocally content to be a bachelor, but he kept turning up with all these beautiful, much younger women. Then came Amal. Unlike George's other squeezes, who were all minor Hollywood starlets/reality TV show contestants on the climb, Amal is a highly educated professional from a wealthy family who has wealth in her own right as an international barrister. This was a weird mixed marriage. By the time Amal married him, GC's career was well on the downturn . . his heyday was a good 10-15 years ago, and now he looks like her dad on red carpets.

This glitterati world seems to be so very dark at its heart. All the legions of fans poring over their favorite celebs in the tabloids really have no clue.
NeutralObserver said…
So many great comments, & I agree with almost every word. LOL

Very low ratings for the Harkle specials. Both of their shows combined had fewer viewers than a show about Super Bowl ADS.
That's ADs, not the Super Bowl, obviously. I think the flop sweat pit stains are coming back. This should be the time for peak interest in them. They only left the RF a few weeks ago. They can't blame Coronavirus. People are probably looking for light entertainment distractions right now.

https://deadline.com/2020/01/harry-and-meghan-tv-specials-ratings-super-bowl-commercials-criminal-minds-1202846703/

The polo-playing chip is a real jerk if he really did spread those rumors about Harry's suicide attempts. What 'friend' does that? I'm sure Tommy Inskip, the old friend Megs forced Harry to ghost, would have never done that in a million years.

If Markle is depriving Harry of his meds, she really is a monster. If this is true, I feel sorry for Harry. He's inherited him mom's instability without her toughness. I hope the RF is being kept posted by his RPOs.
Lurking said…
Thought the nutties would get a kick out of this:

"Shania is not only surviving, she is thriving. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7948375/Shania-Twain-talks-beautifully-twisted-relationship-husband-Fr-d-ric-Thi-baud.html

The Daily Mail has the worst writes, but I laughed at this. I'm hoping this is a dig at Smegs.
MeliticusBee said…
@Unknown
It was CDAN - and it was the Lake Como house.
Back when the blind appeared in the fall - I did a look when the first blind was posted and I did find an article about a dead local teen - but naturally it is gone now.
This was pretty soon after I started following CDAN closely in 2016 - I swear I saw the article.

The most recent blind was here https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/09/todays-blind-items-its-coming.html
and it referenced the blind here https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2016/08/four-for-friday-younger-better.html

I suspected for years that GC was gay....because he was closing in on 50 and never really "married" and really his relationships seemed clinical - until suddenly he marries an international lawyer that no one in the US had ever heard of...she looks the part but they just don't have "it".

and in general...the people who claim criticism of MM is because of racism are either blind - or paid. Clearly she has not been victimized. No one even knew she was "black"...
Like Taylor Swift..I just wish all of this would come out already!
NeutralObserver said…
@Unknown. I've read that story about the young guy falling near a George Clooney home as well. It was somewhere in Cali.
I didn't read it at CDAN, which I only heard about after I started reading about Megs. I read it several years ago. Google is getting pretty useless these days. I can't decide if it's because they've changed their algorithms, or because of my privacy settings on my browser, or a combination of both.

A big handclap for @DesignDoctor for watching both shows, & reporting on them so completely. You're much tougher than I am!
ABC said…
Who wrote this article? Meghan?

15 October 2018
"More than ever, Charles wants to be the grandfather he never had himself..."

Read if you want to laugh
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6279203/At-Charles-gets-grandpa-never-growing-writes-RICHARD-KAY.html
Unknown said…
Years ago, I had a friend who’s Mom was best friends with a famous publicist. She told me George Clooney was definitely gay. I was really young and just devastated by the claim. I had the hugest crush on GC because of his voice and because I considered him a modern Cary Grant. I didn’t press her anymore after that. I just didn’t want to know and wanted to stay in denial. We lost touch and I regret not getting more tea out of her.

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