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Open post: The Megxit Summit

Today Queen Elizabeth, Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince Harry will meet at Sandringham to discuss the future relationship between the Royal Family and Harry, Meghan, and Archie.

Let's discuss here as developments emerge.

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SirStinxAlot said…
@Wild boar... autopsies are not done usually unless there are unusual circumstances or the family request it. My brother died in California (stepped in front of train). No autopsy, would have had to wait months due to back log and family would pay for it. That alone seems odd.
https://www.sccgov.org/sites/coroner/Pages/autopsy.aspx
Duty calls said…
If Doria was in a cult and MM was exposed to it, that could lend an explanation to her behavior. She may be applying what she learned. I have seen articles that refer to her followers as cult-like, and that she is trying create a cult through the sussex brand. The new blind gossip item says stockholm syndrome. On the surface she seems to aspire to mimic Goop, but Goop just seems like a whacky way for wannabes with some disposable income to get close to GP stardust. Sussex brand seems to stem and thrive in anger, hatred, and division. MM seems like one of the bad guys in the evil Empire.

“ Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."
https://www.culteducation.com/mind-control.html
Nutties, Just yesterday we were here discussing and speculating that MM would be soon seen sometime by the end of this week, and lo and behold she is seen driving around, boarding a place, wearing her old clothes and visting a womens shelter. I think this is telling - her royal patronages have probably been taken away and/or she has decided to ghost them.

This women's shelter is her new Grenfel Tower/cookbook. Expecting more pap-walks, womens shelter, bakery, community kitchen stories to come out in the next 10 days.
Just throwing this out there in the H&M mess -- why in the world would they have Meghan's parents depart to fly internationally on May 16, just THREE DAYS before the ROYAL WEDDING on May 19th? Hello, jet lag. Hello prenuptual festivities. There was certainly room somewhere for a week or so in advance to get rested and at least meet Harry before the wedding day. That was super cheap and short thinking of them.
Magatha Mistie said…
AverySunshinyDay. I read, since disappeared? That Ed Lane Fox finally resigned as Harry’s personal secretary because he was miffed at being constantly told, by Meg, that her fathers travel arrangements for the wedding were in hand, they weren’t.
Rut said…
SirStinxAlot: How do you even perform an autopsy on a body to a person who steped in front of a train?
Duty calls said…
Article on Shape shifting baby

https://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-markle-harrys-son-archies-bizarre-morphing-video-sparks-debate-different-2897497
Magatha Mistie said…
WildBoar. The circumstances appear to have been suspect, & the name/s on the Will. The brother thought that he was named on the Will alongside Doria in inheriting the house. This just gets worse, what a bloody family, pure evil.
xxxxx said…
Coming the day after the UK money and titles conference.....
No, no, no Megs and H are not just about the British Pounds they can squeeze out of Charles and his Duchy of Cornwall tenants.
This papped seaplane fly in and women's shelter virtue display was designed to show that Megs and H are fit for Royal purpose. That they will still look after and inspire worthy charities, no matter where they plop themselves down within the Commonwealth. Hint, hint Charles can you get us a good Commonwealth tour next winter? The Vancouver winter skies can depress moi, and for Harry it's even worse. He might go mental on moi. Or act out as if.....
@Sirstinxalot : I take your point - I said I was writing from memory .

Perhaps someone else rang the alarm bell/smelled a rat. I don't know who but it was enough for to start an investigation. I remember being confused by the similarity of the given names of the father and brother when I ploughed through the detailed accounts. Even so, there's a big question mark over the whole business. Or it could all have been made up.

A few days ago, Swampwoman & I become pretty certain that MM exhibits the full Dark Triad of Personality disorders: narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy.

The cult idea is interesting, have people such as Jim Jones been discussed in terms of personality disorders?

In the UK, we've had individual murderers such as Shipman and Ben Field (quite recent, featured in this week's Channel 4 doc on murder of Peter Farqhuhar which also demonstrated aspects of narcissism - targeting, love-bombing and so on). Both became suspects because they were unexpected beneficiaries of their victim's recently-altered Wills. Not quite the same but still...
@AtAVerySunshinyDay, ‘Just throwing this out there in the H&M mess -- why in the world would they have Meghan's parents depart to fly internationally ‪on May 16‬, just THREE DAYS before the ROYAL WEDDING ‪on May 19th‬? Hello, jet lag. Hello prenuptual festivities. There was certainly room somewhere for a week or so in advance to get rested and at least meet Harry before the wedding day. That was super cheap and short thinking of them.’

That exactly, and the problem (he lack of truthfulness )so many saw it at the time. I think Meghan has been spinning stories and lying to everyone from the time she met Harry.

Harry met her Mother months before the wedding and we’ll before the engagement was announced, but no sign of her Father. I think she led them to believe she’d invited her Father, but he never truly was. No Palace advisor flew over to advise him or help him. Meghan never had any intention of inviting her Father into her new life, he was surplus to needs, she’d met a bottomless pit of money and a world wide stage; The Royal Family.
Jenx said…
From my favourite Canadian curmudgeon.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-meghan-and-harry-front-page-news-its-dazzling-how-dopey-we-are

Interest is still low here in Canada despite the media push. Most people have cottoned on to the fact that the Royal Refugees want to sponge off their former subjects. Petitions are being launched.

That girl is gonna have to hustle big time to become/stay relevant. At this point, she has become such a shyster that the authenticity of photos is usually questioned.

If she was on the Eastside? Why was she there besides the obvious photo op? Was she invited? Is this her new MO? Just show up wherever like some blessed lady of Fatima showering all us mortals with her radiance?

Btw Serena donated her prize money to Australia.
Magatha Mistie said…
WildBoar. The penny/lead has dropped! Dangerous, very.
Nutty Flavor said…
I am working on a new page and it will be live in about 15 minutes.
So it the real story is that the brother thought/hoped he was a beneficiary but he wasn't.

Good. Glad to have that cleared up. Thank you whoever mentioned that. No blunt instruments involved, just an unfortunate coincidence of timing at the end.
Sandie said…
Article from the Telegraph (it's brutal):

(1) I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there is a video that Jeremy Vine shared on Twitter showing the Duke and Duchess of Sussex attending the premiere of The Lion King. When the Royal couple draw level with Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, and his wife, this is the conversation that takes place: Prince Harry: “You know she does voiceovers (gesturing at Meghan, who is ahead of him chatting to Beyonce)?” Bob Iger: “Oh, really? Ah.” Prince Harry: “You seem surprised… but, yeah, she’s really interested.” Bob Iger: “Sure… we’d love to try.”

If Bob Iger seems “surprised”, as Harry noted – I’d say startled and embarrassed – that is nothing compared to the look of frank consternation on the face of Mrs Iger. Showbiz royalty like the Igers are used to being ambushed and asked for opportunities. They just don’t expect it to happen when they’re in a receiving line meeting the sixth in line to the throne.

It is mortifying to see Prince Harry pitching his wife as a voiceover artist while he’s on official duty. To me, he has the slightly desperate air of a man scrambling to make things right for a deeply unhappy woman. Why else would he abase himself in that manner? That was back in 19 July. So we know that two months after Archie’s birth, the Sussexes were already looking to leverage their Royal status to secure high-profile work which they knew would never be approved by the Palace. And, lo!, as if by magic, prior to last week’s announcement that the couple would be stepping back from their Royal duties, the Duchess reportedly signed a deal with, yes, Disney. It is said to have a charitable purpose.

Sandie said…
Continuing the article from the Telegraph;

(2) This excruciating, cashing-in scenario is exactly what the Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William will have been worried about. For Her Majesty, the Crown is a unifying, God-given force in the life of the nation. For her beloved grandson and his questing American wife, it is a hugely powerful “brand” that opens doors to people who would otherwise tell a former B-list actress to get lost. I’m sure the Queen would be appalled to think of her family as a brand, even if she knew what one was. To Sussex Royal – am I the only one to find that name incredibly naff? – it is the lifeblood on which their future prosperity depends.

It is perfectly possible to adopt a relatively low-key life and escape the pressures of the Royal goldfish bowl. After William and Kate had baby George, they lived on Anglesey where Kate was spotted in a Breton Boden top doing her grocery shop in Waitrose. I suspect Harry would welcome that kind of anonymity. You can bet it is not the sort of non-Royal life Meghan has in mind

In her statement yesterday, the Queen behaved towards the Duke and Duchess of Sussex with considerably more kindness and consideration than they had shown her. (A majority of the public think the Queen was treated shoddily by the couple, with 71 per cent saying they were wrong not to tell her in advance of their Instagram announcement.) Mindful, perhaps, of Meghan’s history of ghosting key members of her family and friends and colleagues, I guess the Royals know they must tiptoe on eggshells lest an angry, ensnared Harry is either lost to them forever or spills the beans. In a clearly rushed, almost panicky statement, the Queen mentioned “family” seven times and, most unusually, referred to Harry and Meghan by their names, not their titles. She said that she and her family were “entirely supportive” of the couple’s desire “to create a new life”, although they would have “preferred them to remain full-time working members of the Royal family”. She agreed to “a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK”.

Behind that careful, conciliatory tone lies a minefield of hurt, betrayal, mistrust, smarting egos and fear of further unpleasantness. Prince Charles, who dug deep into his own coffers to make the couple feel treasured and who sweetly walked Meghan down the aisle, must feel like he has been kicked in the teeth. Prince Philip is “spitting mad” at the disrespect to his wife. Prince William is barely on speaking terms with a brother whose “character” he frets has changed. How devastated Diana would be to see her darling boys thus estranged.

The Duchess, who tactically left Archie behind in Canada when she and Harry returned briefly to the UK for their bombshell announcement, was not invited to join the Sandringham discussion by phone. No wonder when her PR man – the immortally named Kenny Sunshine – would doubtless have been listening in and taking notes to be used as soundbites in a threatened “tell-all” TV interview.

Sandie said…
Telegraph:

(3) I think we can take it as read that the splitting their time between North America and the UK thing can be translated as Meghan will stay put on the other side of the Atlantic – perhaps turning up at Wimbledon if her friend Serena is playing – while Harry shuttles back and forth, trying to honour his duties to his regiments and charities while keeping his marriage on track.

It all seems so desperately sad when you look back on that perfectly happy day, May 19 2018, when the British people rejoiced as Harry Wales, after his mother the most adored Royal of the modern age, married his dazzling bride. I wrote at the time that Walt Disney himself could not have drawn a more perfect princess. Little did we know that, less than two years later, Meghan would have signed to do a voiceover for Disney

Fair enough, the majority of us now say, let the Sussexes have the life that they want. It’s cruel to keep them trapped in a gilded cage if it’s causing anxiety and even panic attacks. By all means look after your mental health, and your beautiful baby boy, and fly away. But don’t expect to take our money with you, don’t profit from tax breaks you’re no longer entitled to, don’t count on the Rolls-Royce security offered by Royal protection officers, don’t embarrass our Queen and her successors, don’t think you can keep vacant Frogmore Cottage, tarted up the by taxpayer to the tune of £2.4 million, just so you can pretend you live there. Rent it out as other people have to do to make ends meet; you can always put it on HeirBnB.

Freedom, as you’re about to find out, does not come free of charge; it’s an expensive, hard, mucky, tarnished business. And please, whatever you do, don’t claim that you were “driven out”, or that the British people were racist towards Meghan, because that is the most insulting, disingenuous, face-saving falsehood. North America may be shamefully short of mixed-race couples; a tolerant UK leads the world in them. We only ever wished you the best.

When Prince Harry makes the draw tomorrow for the 2021 Rugby League World Cup at Buckingham Palace, his first official engagement since the Sussexes announced their abdication from Royal duties, he won’t be booed. But feelings towards him have already cooled. Remember when just the sight of him used to make us smile? How much longer can the Rugby Football League rely on the services of their Patron? Nobody knows. How long will the Royal Marines have their Captain General, a special role he inherited from his grandfather? Last July, the Duke failed to attend a memorial concert for the Royal Marines. Instead, he chose to be Meghan’s plus-one at that Lion King premiere where he touted for work for his wife. It was a sign his priorities and loyalties had shifted, away from merit to meretriciousness. The lads thought it was a poor show. The old Harry, who used to be be one of the lads, would have agreed.

I am trying not to think this, I really am, because it’s probably not fair, and the story is complicated, but if I sense that, imagine how the Queen must feel. All families have to absorb the quirks and ambitions of new members who, in turn, must adapt to their peculiar new relations. In this case, the accommodating seems to have been decidedly one-sided. The Duchess felt “it wasn’t working” for her.
lizzie said…
@Wild Boar Battle-Maid wrote "So it the real story is that the brother thought/hoped he was a beneficiary but he wasn't."

Not sure about the provenance of the house. The link below goes to a site that likely isn't entirely reliable re: info and spelling!! (Especially of names) But it does contain the following about the house:

"Another correction. Doria's father didn't leave that home to her directly. The home belonged to her father's sister Lillian Ragland Evans died 2004 and her husband William Demont Evans died 1986. Doria's father Alvin A Ragland signed an affidavit death of joint tenancy for his aunt as Alvina was the conservator of Lillie. When Lillie died Alvin took the house. When Alvin died is when Dora got the house. Someone by the name of Alvin J Ragdale had to sign over half of the house."

Someone who can research real estate transactions could make sense sense of it I'm sure.

http://marycumminsrealestatemarycummins.blogspot.com/2017/11/who-is-meghan-markle-soon-to-be-wife-of.html?m=1
Ladies and Gents , Nutty has a new blog post up. Shall we all move over to that one?
Ozmanda said…

@Elle - addiction comes in a couple of forms-

Addiction to narcotics/alcohol/medications happens due to both the physical dependency as well as the culture of it and just the method. There has been addicts who stated the process of takin drugs itself is addictive - even using the needles and the routine.

If you have an "addictive" personality this can be a inherited vulnerability nd it is your "norm". If you are addicted to drugs/alcohol and go through the deto ad get off it, it doesn't solve the problem = it is not uncommon for addicts to transfer this to out addictions - such as sex addiction, co dependent relationships ot hobbies that may ne been seen as a big deal- however if you see they to commit to that hobby you will see similar acts to when they were drug taking - it just transferred.

Dopamine is incredibly powerful..some drugs affect this more then others - Meth or ie is especially dangerous to this - the taking of these drugs cause such a massive release of dopamine that it is significantly more potent than other more "natural" ways to release it. Te effects is also incredibly short so addicts are always chasing that initial rush.

People who indulge in extreme sports also do it for these reasons, as well as falling love.

Falling in love is a little like drug addiction in how it makes you feel - that feeling of euphoria, and then being accustomed to that feeling - relationship breakups are kind of like withdrawal. I think other then other substances the constant need have someone to feed into this is what is keeping Has and sparkles together.

Taking all this into account - think about Harry - pretty much all of his life he has essential been looked after by the world -all his antics are endured due to the "poor harry losing his mum" card. For him this is all he has known and it is really really difficult to let go. Added to the mix some kind of mental issues he may have inherited from his mum and/or the royal family, his substance buses and his was a prime target for someoewho finds that same rush from manipulating others and wanting to control the way things play out.

My opinion Is as long as MM and has are together, it will be almost impossible to help him as he is dependent now on her. And now it is bedtime :)
Ròn said…
@Elle - re cocaine brain. I read an article- it's a while ago so I can't remember the chemicals involved.....

When a couple first get together they produce chemicals that give the 'in love' thing - racing heart, desire, flippy stomach etc. This phase lasts around a year/18months. Those addicted to falling in love will be gone by this stage looking for another fix. If the couple are still together different chemicals get produced. These promote feelings of nurture, bonding, care etc. Basically it's Mother Natures way of saying 'hey it looks like you two are in this for keeps therefore a baby might be imminent so you need to stay together to give this baby the best chance of survival eg One of you will need to care for the child and the other will need to go out and hunt/ gather.
However, were not talking about a normal relationship here - she's a narcissist with a plan so the above doesn't apply so well . Although,we know that H isn't renowned for his faithfulness in relationships- has he cheated on her already in search of that fix, is he too terrified of her reaction if he got found out or is he getting his fix from something else...
Nutty Flavor said…
New blog post is live.
KC said…
@tatty @Magatha Mistie

Blogger Magatha Mistie said...
@tatty. Why hasn’t Alexis denied he was ref H&M, many tweets to him asking if he was alluding to them, no denial from him?

Plausible deniability? If the shoe fits...? Say nothing, maintain dignity? Like a royal!

January 15, 2020 at 6:56 AM

@tatty, the sting is in the tail!


"I can only ***speak for the tech industry,*** of course, *****but I suspect this is largely universal.*****" (emphasis added of course)

And possibly ironic about the depth of his experience

"....I've only been doing this 15 years now"

I enjoy reading this gossipy blog, laughing and groaning as we go. That said, I don't mind the intrusion of facts or if opinion and ideas are identified as such. Thanks, Nutty, for this blog and for supporting civility among us.
Anonymous said…
Hi @Ron I think this is the first time we've chatted :)

Great info on the brain in love, and you raise an interesting angle:

has he cheated on her already in search of that fix, is he too terrified of her reaction if he got found out or is he getting his fix from something else...

I guess I wonder:

--even though she's a narcissist, how did that impact his love drug? Did he get more/less/different/is he more addicted than would be the norm?

--if he cheated, why would he still do this? I guess divorce for him would be more difficult, but still, how damned dumb?!

I'll check back later to see if you've shared your thoughts here.
Ròn said…
Hi @Elle - my guess... is the narcissism hooked him stronger than the brain drug alone would .From what I've read about narcissists I'm guessing at this stage he can't even tell his left hand from his right. He strikes me as someone who bacomes easily bored, needing something new on a regular basis to give him his happy fix. Maybe Archie, at the time he was born, and now all the fuss surrounding his exit from the RF, has been enough to keep him from straying... If i was her I'd make sure he was never bored.
KnitWit said…
Saw this on Twitter, an obviously photoshopped photo of our favorite couple.

https://twitter.com/Jen_Arrick/status/1217436578852810753?s=19
So Meghan's Mirror now incorporatesThe Tig and is already merching outfits with pics of Harry? This defies belief. I am hazarding a guess that the only reason she flew to the women's centre at our expense was to merch the insanely expensive outfit she wore.
Maggie said…
Le Chameau have "as worn by the Duchess of Sussex" - which they won't be too proud about soon!

I'm thinking she genuinely fled the country. She couldn't be charged with extortion because Harry would have to be a defendant, but I'm quite sure there are criminal charges to answer. She's played her hand badly and her fellow conspirators in this con on the RF will be sh!tting themselves. Jess Mulroney won't be looking too good in her classy Toronto circles now.

This is a story that will keep on giving - my apologies to those Tumblr ladies who saw the con long ago, but I couldn't quite believe it.
@Jenx said

""Just show up wherever like some blessed lady of Fatima showering all us mortals with her radiance? ""

Oh dear me, I do hope you are not referencing the Blessed Virgin Mary appearance at Fatima, which Catholics revere?

Oh no, no, no, Meg is as far away from being the Mother of Jesus, my dear Lord. She is dark, an agent of darkness it would seem to the BRF.
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