Although numerous polls of the British people suggest they'd like to see the Duke and Duchess of Sussex lose their HRH titles and funding from the Duchy of Cornwall, cutting the Sussexes off entirely is impossible, and the Royal Family knows it.
It's impossible because Harry is vulnerable and could end up in a gutter - quite literally - without the support of his family.
(As the Prince William character says of his family on the TV comedy series The Windsors, "These people are like budgies. Let them out of their cage and they'll be eaten by the first animal they see.")
And it's impossible because social media makes it impossible to control information that might be released about the Royal Family by Duchess Meghan.
True information, false information, it doesn't matter.
Meg can just make it up, release it on social media, and someone will believe it.
Meg can just make it up, release it on social media, and someone will believe it.
Since the bananas
Social media has been a key player during Meghan Markle's two-and-a-half years of acknowledged connection to the Royal Family.
She first hinted at her relationship with prince Harry with an Instagram photo of two bananas cuddling; when she closed her lifestyle blog The Tig six months later, it was seen as a sign that the relationship was getting serious. After the engagement, Meghan closed her Instagram and Twitter accounts, something her supporters later described as the former actress being "muted" and "losing her voice."
In the run-up to the May 2018 marriage, social media in the form of the Daily Mail comments was the first sign that the British public was not entirely behind Harry's choice of bride.
Meg "clapped back" with a team of PR posters paid to defend her on the DM comment boards, along with some vicioius Twitter bots and perhaps some pseudonymous Twitter accounts of her own. She also seems to be the person behind anonymous messages to the notorious anti-Meghan Tumblr blogger Skippy. (A few anti-Meghan bloggers were doxxed, although Skippy was not one of them.)
Meanwhile, the Meghan's Mirror Instagram and Twitter offered lightning-quick information on where to buy whatever Meghan was wearing that day. So quick, as a matter of fact, that they must have had advance notice of what would be worn, likely by someone who would receive an affiliate fee.
Very confident in her abilities
Ultimately, Meg was allowed to start an official Instagram account again, the much-derided @SussexRoyal, which has been used to trumpet the Sussexes' achievements and offer lukewarm birthday greetings to members of the Cambridge family.
Meg feels confident in her social media abilities, so confident she apparently writes much of the @SussexRoyal text herself without the benefit of a copyeditor.
She also appears to enjoy do-it-yourself Photoshop, as displayed on the Sussexes' bizarre last-minute Christmas card.
Why is is this important?
Because social media is Meghan's insurance policy for the future.
Deference to the Royal Family
When Edward VIII, then Prince of Wales, met Wallis Simpson in 1931 and they became lovers, the British public knew nothing about it.
Foreign newspapers wrote freely about the developing romance between the prince and the then-married American socialite, and Brits abroad delighted in cutting out clips and mailing them to family back home, but British newspapers did not report on the situation out of deference to the Royal Family.
US newspapers arriving in London had articles about the situation removed with scissors. In the case of Time Magazine, pages were ripped out.
The public only learned of the nascent constitutional crisis involving the not-yet-coronated King in 1936, when a local Bishop mentioned it in a sermon. After that, the gloves were off.
No photos of Royal children
The British media still shows some deference to the Royals today, such as the de-facto ban on publishing candid images of the Royal children, whether they are taken by paparazzi or the public.
Various older Royals are also rumored from time to time to be having extramarital affairs, but this is also kept out of the papers unless some event forces the question, such as the theft of then-married Princess Anne's letters to her lover Tim Lawrence.
(Super-injunctions also help enforce this deference, the "articles removed with scissors" of the 21st century.)
But social media shows no deference. Anyone can write anything, and it's up to the public to decide whether or not the statements are credible.
Credibility and rumor
The rumor of an affair between William and Rose Hanbury was invented by a blogger in Utah who has never met anyone from the Royal Family and was inspired by photos she had seen in the Daily Mail; they were given additional weight by a Soho House habitué and Meghan pal named Giles Coren who said "everyone knows" about the affair. (Coren, ironically, was recently bullied off Twitter after making a distasteful joke about a gay journalist.)
But "a lie gets halfway around the world before truth puts on its boots," as Churchill once said.
Some members of the public still believe the thin gruel of the Rose rumors (Enty lawyer at CDAN is one of them). Certainly Meg's fans enjoy adding rose emoji's to Tweets taunting Duchess Kate.
How much more power would such a rumor have if it came from the Duchess of Sussex?
What she could say
Rumors of an affair are one thing, but the Duchess of Sussex could also cause havoc with innumerable other types of accusations - and they don't even have to be true.
Creating quotes or otherwise suggesting that members of the Royal Family are racist, sexist, or homophobic is an obvious tactic, and given Meg's hatred of the Cambridges, they would be her number-one target. How delicious to damage the heir to the throne by crediting him with some vicious statement that would always be believed by at least a few people. A little mud always sticks.
She might also Photoshop embarassing images and release them, or cast aspersions on the Cambridge children, and true or false, whatever she said would follow them for decades.
Meg's a viper. She doesn't have to win, as long as other people lose.
Social media makes it possible, and unfortunately makes it very easy. Some people will believe anything, particularly when they want to.
They need something they can take away
This is why the Royals must always keep Meg onside, at least nominally. They need to have something they can take away - an ongoing income, a title - if she misbehaves. They cannot leave her with nothing, because they will then have no leverage over her.
The only other alternative, if I may be so bold as to say it, is to neutralize her.
(Sensitive souls should look away now.) When I say "neutralize", Ari Behn, Andrew Burkle, and Jeffrey Epstein come to mind.
Controlling information about herself
Ironically, despite the growing power of social media, Meg seems obsessed with controlling what the traditional media say about her.
Her lawsuit against the Daily Mail is ongoing, as is Harry's lawsuit against some newspapers involved in an ancient phone-hacking scandal. The Duchess has long worked with People Magazine to promote her side of the story.
And on their personal website, the Sussexes say they would like to remove themselves from the Royal Rota of traditional-media reporters in favor of "grassroots media organizations and young, up-and-coming journalists."
In other words, small-potatoes types who will be so flattered to meet us that they'll write what we want.
Hey Sussexes - you can cut off the Royal Rota's access to your events, but you can't prohibit them from writing about you. And if you don't have anything to trade, they're likely to be harsh.
Traditionally Royal reporters temper their stories in order to maintain access. If you've already removed access, why should they bother?
The Gayle King interview
There's been some suggestion that the Sussexes are planning an interview with Gayle King, who has been responsible for two previous (low-rated) specials on the pair.
Are the Royals worried about this? A little, perhaps, but Gayle King is an establishment journalist and a somewhat responsible gatekeeper. She'll let Meg say, "I never really felt welcome in Britain" and suggest that Meg is unpopular because she is (a little bit) Black.
But she won't let Meg go full-throttle. She won't let Meg say crazy, damaging, or demented things about Princess Charlotte or Prince Louis.
Social media will. Let go from the Royal Family, Meg will waste no time re-establishing her accounts (there are suggestions that the "Meghan-ish" accounts popping up means she already has) and becoming an ongoing thorn in the side of the Royals at a vulnerable time, during the transition from a beloved monarch to a plummy and unpopular successor.
The Royals will pay her off, or they will pick her off. We'll see which.
Comments
Richard Palmer, nothing
Dickie Arbiter, nothing
Emily Andrews, nothing
Victoria Arbiter, link where she and Anderson Cooper discusses MM and racism: https://mobile.twitter.com/victoriaarbiter/status/1216006621341589504
She is also hitting back at critics and said no one knows who leaked it.
Max Foster CNN, nothing
Rebecca English, nothing
Richard Eden, nothing
Dan Wooton, the theories about how he got the story are untrue and irresponsible. Royal commentators (daily mail link) say Harry and Meghan can expect no mercy. Meghan and Harry might have to bow to Kate and William if their titles are taken away. Fascinating details about why Harry and Meghan went rogue with statement (usmagazine.com link that says they were forced to prematurely announce)... so basically a lot of tweets but nothing new.
Some of these reporters had the statements from the Queen and PC to Canada expressing condolences over the Iran plane shot down. I did not include those since not about The Sussex.
>>>I believe he would be VERY marketable as a speaker. Maybe not on the payment schedule of former presidents, but as a very high profile speaker, yes. (And if he breaks free eventually from a toxic marriage, then even more to discuss as a triumph).
I see it now: Prince Harry: how to make lemonade from lemons<<<
Horse poop, and lots of it. Harry can't even string two coherent sentences together as he needs to rely on his wife's word salad. How has that gone over? Like a lead balloon. He wasn't asked to give speeches before his embarrassing break from the BRF so why would him, being damaged goods now be expected to be sought after now.
He can't even get dressed for an appearance much less show up and mouth the words a teleprompter shows him (remember his bizarre mumbling stumbling laughter or crying jag a couple of weeks ago). I know 10 years old who could do a better job of giving a speech w/o a teleprompter, Oh maybe the magic is in him being barefoot, how royal is that.
Harry is a dolt, in the past, a miserable twat in his current state and will probably be an abject failure in the future.
Besides Harry doesn't have anything to say of value anyway...what. I and my trashy wife can tell you how to treat your loved ones with contempt and get paid for it. He and his message stinks to 'high heaven'. May God have mercy on his soul.
An audio or video of Meg shouting racist statements, for example, would destroy her credibility with the right-on types who are supporting her now.
What did she say to Melissa Toubati while throwing the teapot?
Harry is still a popular royal with many, as his army days and laddish stunts still make him relatable and likable. Also consider that climate change and gender equality panels would completely fall over themselves to have both of them. These topics are popular with many corporations with deep pockets who want to seem progressive and forward-thinking in order to attract the top talent from the elite unis where such views are popular. Hence why Harry was even invited to that climate retreat organised by Google in Sicily.
Wootton has been buddies with Christian Jones, the Cambridge's press secretary, for quite some time. (Some say that they were or are more than buddies. Wootton is openly gay.) That would seem like the obvious leak. It might not be the actual leak, however.
Anyway, the fact that Meg and Harry were likely headed out the door was obvious to anyone following the story, even casual observers like me. Wootton just needed someone to confirm.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SPerryPeoplemag/status/1216076058304417793?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
However, Harry appears to be unreliable. The Royal Family has to put up with him when he shows up in stained or wrinkled clothing, apparently intoxicated, and gives a strange and emotional speech.
Private bookers do not have to put up with that type of behavior. One or two mess-ups and he will never be booked again.
I have no idea at this point what they will do with the slippery viper. She has the advantage of seeming to have no empathy and no conscience. I think she is more than a narcissist.
I did see a meme that was a screen shot of GPS directions for MM with the No Tunnels option chosen. Dark, very dark.
The bargaining chip might be Archie...as in, the BRF could say, if you toe the line we will not let the truthabout archie be known, and we will pay for his upbringing...
Eventually they will encounter something that will topple the firm. May be Sussexes is it.
I used to respect the Queen but now I catch myself thinking she really never acted decisively. She kept silent. She never interfered into anything even to help her own children or sister. Everybody sings praises to her but imagine if she had to actually run the country like a President or PM? That would be a total disaster where action is required.
They say she puts duty first. Now it feels she puts her grandson first. One of the distant royal relatives said they divide the world into "us" and everybody else, making no distinction between a PM and a baker.
Harry is the part, everybody else isn't. Harry is put first and hell what the country is thinking.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7875973/Prince-Harry-time-securing-best-financial-deal-family.html
The bargaining chip might be Archie...as in, the BRF could say, if you toe the line we will not let the truthabout archie be known, and we will pay for his upbringing...
I don't think she really cares about Archie. I think after Harry, Archie is next in line to be ghosted.
Reminds me of Lauren Silverman's 8-year-old, whom she abandoned entirely when she went off to be Simon Cowell's squeeze.
Not so likeable now and as thick as two planks. He’d ramble on about nothing. Not sure there’d be that many desperados (long or short term) willing to pay big money to hear him. Lol
I saw some cartoons his army buddies circulate around. They are not reverential to put it mildly.
If it were up to me, I'd vote for stripping them of their titles (including HRH, even if it would require some legal maneuvring), cutting off the money and undo any recent bank transactions just to be safe.
Others in the previous thread have made arguments about why QEII, PC and PW cannot give in to their demands and appear weak. I only hope they themselves understand this and act accordingly.
Without the titles, income and rank/position, there's very little left for H&M. Certainly not love. Sure, they'd get a few offers for interviews and maybe even speeches by organisations who haven't been paying close attention to their performances the past year or so (and who aren't afraid of alienating the BRF) and who knows, maybe a book or two each. Harry could write sob stories about Diana, even though he's admitted he cannot even remember her aside from some vague tidbits (which in his case are more likely "planted" memories from things others have told him about her, very common in children although they're usually much younger and would remember a relative, especially a parent from that age).
Anyway, those offers, the lime light (apparently only traumatizing to Harry when he's not directly paid for it) and cash flow to them/their foundation won't last long. Then they'll grow even more apart if they're actually still living together. Resentment will grow and they'll end up hating and blaming each other for how their lives have turned out.
The BRF can expedite those events by pushing the right buttons. If MM cannot even restrain herself to not throw teapots at staff, imagine what she'd do when all the right buttons are pushed on purpose. She'll go nuclear and it will happen publicly. She'll lose it, will be unable to keep up pretense and show her true colors.
As for Harry? If I were QEII, PC or PW, I'd say let her keep him. He's gone too far and should not be welcomed into the royal fold regardless of how much remorse he might show (eventually). If one or all of them can somehow forgive him because he's their blood, fine, but I doubt the public would embrace his return He could return to the family but not the Royal Household and no royal duties or payroll.
There's nothing for the Obamas to gain by associating with the Harkles. Or Oprah, for that matter. Serena Williams also reportedly brushed off questions about Meg.
Why should A-listers align themselves with her? What's in it for them?
Meg will need to look elsewhere if she wants celebrity supporters, particularly with Sunshine Sachs out of the picture.
Since I've started following the thread on Lipstick Alley, I've learned a lot about the rapper "Megan Thee Stallion", who appears to be very popular and has a dedicated following. Perhaps Meghan Sussex should get in touch with her. They could do something based on having similar names.
Hope still exists.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10716974/kate-middleton-selfish-meghan-harry/
I can see the BRF giving in to buy time for now, but Meg is a ticking bomb. She cannot be controlled. You have to completely destroy her.
Soldiers on guard have to salute every member of the RF when they get out. Andrew, then 8 or 9, kept getting out, running up to the guard, teasing him, sticking his tongue out. Every ten minutes or so. The guard got hot and tired in his full uniform doing the formal royal salute every time. Eventually, exasperated, he told Andrew to get lost or something similar.
Andrew ran away and complained to his father. Phillip went out and said: "I understand you told my son to get lost?"
The guard mentally said good by to his career and replied "Yes Sir I did" Phillip asked why. The guard told how events went. With every word Phillip got angrier and angrier. Eventually he turned to Andrew and shouted: "Did you hear him? Do as he says".
What the BRF should be doing is crafting a strategy to counter what she will do. They cannot stop it, but they can come up with an effective strategy to counter/neutralise it. For a start, they should be open and honest, fully, about the deal/agreement (have it in writing and make it public) and just keep using receipts.
Meghan Narrative: Boo, hoo, Meghan has been sidelined and has been left without support and no one asks her if she is ok.
Frogmore Cottage: Here is the detailed list of work done and what it cost, what gifts were given by the family, the proof that they live there for free because the Queen pays the rent for them out of her personal wealth.
Support: Here is a detailed list of gifts given, visits made and support given (detailed list of meals made, number of staff involved, special ingredients required), letters sent, phone calls made during her late pregnancy and after the birth of Archie.
And so on. That sort of information has been published, but it is one article that then is overwhelmed by the Meghan PR/propaganda. Find a way to get this information out there in a way that will be noticed. People do not read details, e.g. American supporters have kept themselves ignorant of the fact that the Sussexes are offering to give up 5% of their income (the freebie money they get) in return for being able to make billions commercially and maybe doing a few royal duties that are to their liking. Tom Bradbury repeating nonsense on behalf of the Sussexes should not go unchallenged. Invite him to dinner/tea (a tactic Diane used very effectively) and point out that what he has said does not make sense and show him proof of that.
The BRF can fight this without resorting to a smear campaign or other dirty tricks. Leave that to Meghan, in the sewer, where such destructive manipulative behaviour belongs.
Social Media - the echo chamber which keeps on echoing without a stop
also @nelo - were I SS, I'd rather not represent the foundation = pay to play, corruption, and all other types of questionable financial dealings. That's the kinda' stink that sticks to everyone around, including PR firms, should the IRS come nosing around. And while I'm not that into Skippy other than entertainment, that's another angle she subscribes to: MM has/had IRS issues. Wonder if there is a contract to still serve out and that's why they're still around?
Good points, but do they fit in a headline?
And, in particular, do they fit into a narrative that can create clicks?
Otherwise those great points are going to be bulldozed by shorter, sexier statements that fit into a Facebook or Twitter headline, or can be expressed via Snapchat. (A lot of under-20s get their news via Snapchat, in particular the DM on Snapchat.)
Does anyone have more info on how she crashed Michelle's book signing?
Celt News posted a video about MM's visit to the Theatre. She said MM blew off a meeting with HM, so HM called the theatre and cancelled MM's visit. MM was escorted out with her photographer. This was the famous "rings splayed" picture. Does anyone have more info on this?
All that said, Meghan is setting up her future life (and has been doing so all her life) and knowing she has burnt so many bridges and relationships in her, Harry has to be next on the list, all her ducks are lining up.
I know the royal family have to work out a way to help Harry if he wants to come back into the royal fold full time, so I know he won’t be totally hung out to dry.
There’s been so much speculation in the British press that my head is starting to spin. I’ll be glad when we know what the royals plan is. I did read today that ‘The Queen has reportedly asked for a blueprint that is workable not just for Harry and Meghan but could also apply to following generations including Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis.’ Whether any of this is true, who knows!
(Snipped)
According to a report from British tabloid The Sun, that is what has happened since one of Hollywood's favorite communications and crisis management firms, Manhattan-based Sunshine Sachs, is now representing the Duchess of Sussex, formerly known as Meghan Markle.
The report goes on to say that the move was a “massive break from royal tradition” and “went behind the backs of Buckingham Palace advisers,” all in an attempt to restore her image.
However, in an exclusive statement sent to FOX Business from James Holt of Royal Communications, there hasn’t been any collusion.
“Sunshine Sachs have been supporting us with outreach and coordination in the US around the launch of Travalyst — the global initiative which launched today,” Holt's statement said.
“This is a project being led by Sussex Royal, the new Foundation for the Duke and Duchess — but as we’re still in our infancy and still being established, we felt it was necessary to get external support,” Holt shared about the third-party hire.
(Snipped)
Moreover, Sunshine Sachs has represented Markle in the past when she was an actress on the TV drama “Suits,” according to The Sun’s report.
It also said the U.S.-based PR firm has “been guiding her through recent high-profile incidents, including a guest edit of [British] Vogue magazine,” where she interviewed former First Lady Michelle Obama.“
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10719054/queen-charles-william-harry-historic-summit/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-summons-prince-harry-william-21262742
Re: Charlotte and Louis, they could really just go with the plan that is already in place in most European royal families. The heir has a job for life; the spares need to find other careers.
This hasn't been problem free - Martha-Louise in Norway, Joachim in Denmark, and Cristina in Spain have all encountered challenges mixing royal life with commerce - but at least it's a framework.
I believe it used to be said that the first son inherited the property, the second son went into the military, and the third into the church. Perhaps we need a modern version. Academia might be a good place for a Royal, in a quiet field like Flemish painting or lepidopterology.
Wow, the A-listers want nothing to do with her. They must know more than has been publicly announced. Maybe the real story of Archie?
So first the threat, then if the Gruesomes proceed with Megs money grabbing schemes, then Charles pulls the titles and the Cornwall cash flow.
Better to do this now and suffer the consequences, because Megs will always be able to torment the BRF family via social media. Which is greatly exaggerated in my book. Cut them off now from money and power and Megs will fade away in social media influence as the divorce probably comes. BUT! When Meg's merching pays off in a few years she will have a solid power base to operate from, with some millions of dollars at her disposal to make her anti-BRF mischief 10x worse.
As far as Harry being "mental", the man has issues, but half of what he is doing is display and fakery. Intimidation by acting out. Mental or not he cannot be allowed to ruin the Monarchy. I have zero sympathy for Harry and Megs. They have made their bed......
So limit Megs access to money and power now!
She knows there are ones out there who are afraid to cut her off for the reasons Nutty has given. As long as she has that to hold over everyone’s head, the longer this nightmare will go on. That’s negotiating from a position of fear and that will not work as she can never be satisfied and will only come back for more.
@Fairycroc, I wonder if funny posts might actually be the way to create a narrative that gets clicks. I saw a funny one that was a pretend news headline saying "35-year old announces he and his girlfriend are finally moving out of Grandma's house. Announces he will still require his monthly pocket money until he gets settled" over a photo of them plus a photo of the queen with a funny expression.
It makes their grab for independence less a product of a evil, all-powerful monarchy who offed Diana and now Harry and Meghan are the new victims. It reminds people that they are spoiled and asking for more money.
Charles has lived 71 years with very little in the way of cojones. Will he suddenly discover them now?
No mention of Philip, who lives at Sandringham.
Also, Charlotte and Louis (and future spares) do not deserve the same treatment as Harry simply because of how he went about it. Not only the public demands but also going against QEII's instructions to keep it to himself and discuss it with his father before coming before her with his grand idea.
"As Elle mentioned in the previous post, there is a third way to turn this situation around. Give H&M everything they want and then give the press permission to publish everything they have on Meghan. I think that process has already begun. I see a lot of negative articles on Meghan's narcissism, her running away when things get tough, leaving her child behind on another continent, her greed, etc. It is only a matter of time before the gloves are off and the British tabloids publish everything they have on het yachting, the faux pregnancy, her shady deals...With the Andrew scandal the press also turned out to have a whole lot of dirt they had been sitting on for years. If the BRF just sits back and does nothing, they will not be to blame when the Harkles implode.
January 11, 2020 at 11:04 PM"
I have a feeling that you are right PaisleyGirl. I think this is how the RF will handle it. There were reports between the engagement and wedding that web sites were being wiped of risque photos, and sites wiped of non-flattering info. But as we all know, nothing released into the internet ever goes away. The press have the resources to find it, or are already sitting on the juicy stuff out of respect to the Queen. All the RF have to do is play fair and watch Markle sink herself.
The only downside to this is the level of disgust among the British public who are very angry at the disrespect towards the Queen. Even those who are ambivalent about the RF (and even some republicans) have a soft affectionate spot for our Queen, over 75 years of flawless service to our country. There is a vocal section who will bowl with indignation if they don't get their pound of Harkle flesh, and that could cause some problems. The RF are going to have to find a way to claim the moral high ground.
>>> I agree that a lot of speakers work on name value alone.<<<
If history repeats itself, then Meghan and Harry will have little to show for being paid big money (not chump change) for speeches, Where has their past success been? Oh sure they may have regurgitated some plagiarized quotes and vomited some word salad crap but what of substance? That will not play well with notable corporations and impressive organizations.
I am connected to political and environmental causes and have never seen a single speaker of worth show up barefoot, disheveled and breaking down (from histrionic laughing or crying) pitifully. Meghan could not even pull off a 15-minute presentation on her lousy clothing collection (which she should of been able to talk glowingly about).
Meghan's demographics aren't going to pay $100 much less $250 or more to see their idol. They won't even pay $10 bucks to buy a paperback if she could even get a book ghostwritten.
The best luck she would have is to release a sex tape and a sex-how-to book on how to bag a prince. Harry, could best put his descended testicle on display in said sex tape and write a forward in the sex-tell-all book on how his mind (what little he has) was blown by Meggles 'er talents between the sheets.
This Sandringham meeting and other H$M exit "negotiations" are Charles' moment to shine and for William to back him up.
Or....together nothing they want and give the press permission to publish everything they know.
I don't think any appeasement will work. They simply have to be stopped. I recognize that Harry is a son/ Grandson but to be honest, they created monster by indulging and spoiling him.
Turn the dogs of war (er, press) loose and pick up what is left of him later.
Harry is not getting out of this situation without pain. He will lose his family or his wife (and probably son), or his standard of living. He has already lost his friends, his reputation,and his self-esteem.
To a family member or an addict who asks "How can I help my son ( husband, friend)? The answer is "pray for a quick bottom".
Tough love is still love.
But do you really think that this is a moral and honorable person? Someone you’d want your son or daughter to marry? Someone who is documented as ghosting her family, her friends, and even previous husband(s). Whose veneration for $$$ is cloaked behind a bunch of liberal-speak. Note: I am very left. I cannot imagine how any of you in the pro-Markle camp can explain away someone who spends tens of thousands of pounds on designer dresses, shoes, coats, and hats IN ONE YEAR, and has the nerve, the NERVE to talk like she’s shopping at Oxfam for her clothes—because don’t you know that recycling is the way to go. Did she recycle that 90,000-pound dress and make dishcloths out of it? And the nonsense, NONSENSE, about the environment and global warming versus the private jet hopping and the constant revolving display of new coats and shoes? Honestly, would you want to spend any time with this woman? She proclaims that she wanted to modernize the monarchy when in reality she wanted to take it back to the 17th century, where the monarchs weren’t questioned for their gross extravagance or tawdry behavior. She is a hypocrite of the first order, and I want to honestly know how you square this with believing that she has a legitimate place in this family. Or ANY family for that matter.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10716210/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-agree-to-tell-all-interview-in-us-with-cbs-host-and-pal-gayle-king/
Why take so long to make the denial?
So there she is, in her sinking ship, without so much as a cup to bail with.
She might be willing to make a better deal now.
If there is such a strong bond why don't they spend some if the holiday season with Charles?
@TorontoPaper1, which is enjoying some renewed credibility, said recently that Meghan had already been unfaithful.
Fredde, good point about Charlotte and Louis not be handled the same as Harry. Let them be themselves and not punished because Harry became a problem. And I think that you are absolutely correct that negotiations are a tad pointless if they are going to do whatever they want even if they were told no.
The peerages he received at the time of his marriage are his for life and then pass to his children unless removed by act of parliament, so she will always be Meghan, Duchess of Sussex until she is married to someone else. Nobody is going to associate themselves with the Sussex royal brand until it becomes clear that there IS such a thing as Sussex royal, and that is has some cachet. Launching your brand with an unseemly public extortion of an elderly woman isn’t a good look.
The other thing to consider is whether the monarchy retains guardianship of Archie. I am under the impression the proposed solution has to have some kind of loophole for when Harry regrets what he’s done and wants to come back, so they can’t put in something irrevocable.
If I were Charles, I would offer them a life interest in Harewood as an income producing property owned by the Duchy of Cornwall. The queen can take back Frogmore.
And finally...how dumb was Meghan to leave Harry by himself with his family right now? She can’t control him 24/7 from the other side of Canada.
Excellent point.
I'm sure his family loves him deeply, but they also don't want a "The Windsors killed Harry" story to follow the "The Windsors killed Diana" story.
@TorontoPaper1 was thought by many to be a clever troll, but much of what it has said over the past month or so lines up well with what we know. It's Canadian embassy visit coverage was particularly good.
Recently @TorontoPaper1 stated that it was actually run by more than one person. Interesting, because some French speakers have noticed native French grammar coming out in its English-language postings.
This is spot on!
One of the more hypocritical aspects of their manifesto was how they claimed they wanted to be "progressive"...but upon a quick perusal of the Sussex royal website, I was immediately overwhelmed by how frequently they referred to themselves as "their royal highnesses." Royalty by its very definition is not progressive. If they were truly modern, if she were truly a feminist, they would have already voluntarily ditched their titles.
I have often said, she isn't Wallis 2.0; she is Marie Antoinette 2.0. To spend time in one of the most violent countries on Earth, where people live in such abject despair and poverty, and complain that she is just "existing" and that no one "asks if she is OK..." it boggles my mind.
Sounds like they might be angling to get them to stay by laying out all the tax traps they will have if they move:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876671/Harry-Meghan-confronted-dire-tax-impact-abandoning-royal-family.html
“Palace's warning on Harry's millions: Prince will be confronted with dire tax impact of Megxit at unprecedented crisis summit with the Queen, William and Charles (and Meghan on the phone) - as the monarch fears for her fragile grandson
Senior source said a solution that is ‘compatible' with taxpayers, reality and the Queen’ was being sought
Meghan has been telling friends that move to North America will be welcome relief from ‘toxic’ life in Britain
Prince Harry will be handed documents that will set out the financial penalties for a range of scenarios”
I do think Sunshine Sachs is gone, however. "The PR firm Sunshine Sachs said it no longer represents her" was the statement - that sounds pretty unambiguous.
Sunshine Sachs has a reputation to protect, too, and I suppose they know whatever the Obamas and Oprah and Gayle know that the rest of us don't know yet.
I’m not saying SS didn’t leave, only that we have no statements from them, just a rag said an unnamed reporter said etc.
Exactly this, and I stated something similar on another post. He’s waited his whole life for his legacy, his legacy is in jeopardy, he’s just not going to roll over and see it ruined by some z -lister actress. Something will be put in place for Harry if he chooses to return though, (see my comment further up the thread).
She has the power to damage and embarrass The RF in other ways as well. She will never keep out of the political discussion again. She didn't do that very well within the family. And she loves to hear herself talk.
She is a narc. She is incapable of seriously entering any agreement, even if she wanted to and the other party is paying her or has blackmail. She cannot help responding when angered, or threatened, or its Tuesday. There is no impulse control at all. She sees herself as strategic, and a long range planner, but she is really Ms. Pacman boinging off the walls.
"Tried to be unfaithful" sounds like there are not many men desiring used goods. Harry fell for her second hand charms but how many serious money pouches would?
Rumor is her first husband annulled the marriage to avoid paying her and it was not contested. He is apparently a solicitor or a lawyer or something to that extend and got her pretty quickly to run with minimal losses.
The doors are slamming at an alarming rate. Perhaps, as someone mentioned upstream, she was led to believe she could swagger through any of those doors and fulfill her heart's desires. And, the word went out, and slam. Is Disney next to say Nope?
How can the RF square this with the very threatening public sentiment that I am seeing, which basically says that if PC caves at all, the mystique is gone and with it support for the monarchy?
The RF needs the press to expose her as a fraud immediately. It’s one way to effectively neutralize her.
Uh, yeah.
Why won't she face them? She no-shows the Queen(!), Sneaks out of town, and now won't even phone in? For a call that has a serious impact on her future?
What gives with that?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876671/Harry-Meghan-confronted-dire-tax-impact-abandoning-royal-family.html
Like America is any less toxic or racist? I'm an American and any American wagging their finger at Britain for being racist concerning Meghan better clean up their own house first. America has had a far more racist history.
The Royal Family really needs to find a way to shut this toxic narcissist up. Threaten to strip her titles if she says anything derogatory.
The Queen’s former press secretary Dickie Arbiter said tonight: “This is a landmark meeting which is absolutely unprecedented.”
A Palace source confirmed they will also discuss the “next steps” for the monarchy, with an announcement due within days.
The meeting will be the first time Harry has come face-to-face with his gran since revealing his plan to quit frontline duties last week.
The Queen, Harry, Charles and William will discuss a hastily-drafted document outlining various options for The Firm.
Meghan, 38, who returned to Canada to join baby Archie on Thursday, could join discussions in a conference call.
We can also reveal that Harry agreed to quit after Meghan vowed not to return to the UK full time.
The summit comes as the royals face their biggest crisis since Princess Diana’s death in 1997.
The Palace source said: “The family will gather on Monday at Sandringham to talk things through.
Are we seriously supposed to believe this?
My guess Meghan was not invited to the 'summit' at all.
It's looking more and more like that to me too.
She's run off to Canada, holding their son as a bargaining chip, leaving him to fight the battles for her, great feminist that she is. She is a disgrace.
RE: Tax Trap
The quick read barely mentions it but the US taxation would still apply (but probably most of the people aren't as familiar with the US tax laws).
KitKatKisses, the lie of the streamed down monarchy doesn't include them never really held water from when it was first mentioned with the portrait of the 4 current and future. No spouses the clue after that this kind of portraiture was already common message through art.
Theramenes - Wow, really inventive thinking. Very cool.
Disney voice over - with doors shutting, what about Disney? A lot of movies fall through for all kinds of reasons so that door can shut too. And, even if they tape her voice, that is not a guarantee as to how much she will be heard (hint: things still wind up on the cutting floor for animation too) and sometimes whole scripts get rewritten. Disney is not a guarantee for a new start nor does it guarantee anything past that with anybody.
Something else must have been the trigger. Wish Shakespeare was still around to write this one up as a play.
I don’t see anything about that in this link.
>>>I must revise my earlier statement - @TorontoPaper1 said Meghan had "tried" to be unfaithful, not that she had been<<<
Well if I had a spouse who "tried" to be unfaithful that would be the last thing they tried. unless its walking out the door and not letting the screendoor hit themselves in the ass on the way out" (as we say here in the South).
Probably the potential victim of Meghan's amorous desires is so glad they dodged a bullet with her. lol
Hope he got that DNA test. Wouldn't surprise me if Meg and Archie are "traveling" every time he tried to catch up to them.
Those "tried to cheat" rumours remind me of the way she was acting towards Serena Williams husband in NY.
At the beginning, known as the Idealization Stage in a narcissistic, abusive relationship, showered with attention and flattery, you believe that you’ve found your ideal partner. Prince Charming will be sure to utilize every trick in his toolbox, to blind you to the control and manipulation, that he is about to assert over you.
He will use flattery, and you’ll bask in his constant attention. There will be promises of everlasting and eternal love. You’ll be declared his “soulmate” and told that he’s never met anyone as perfect for him as you.
Public declarations of his love will be constant. He will claim to share the same dreams, aspirations, and viewpoints as you. Progressing at a whirlwind pace, soon you’ll be making plans to move in together and considering marriage, children; the entire modern-day fairy tale.
Filled with surging love, and breathlessness from the rapid pace of the relationship, scarcely a moment is available to think rationally. Caution will be thrown to the wind because he seems so perfect, and you feel as though you have a deeper connection with him than anyone you had ever met before, or could ever meet again.
http://www.freefromtoxic.com/2015/06/10/decoding-narcissistic-devaluation/
I would be very interested to know what kind of libel & privacy laws Canada has, & perhaps if they do settle there, they can circumvent the US's voracious appetite for dirt on celebs, which is what the Harkles are to us. The RF will have a lot of fires to put out if they don't manage to tie the Harkles hands, or tongues, somehow. Or perhaps Megs has her Harvey Weinstein style intimidation troops already lined up. If so, she really does have deep pockets, & how did she get them? I would be curious to know what names are on the checks that went to Megs which are allowing her to pay her current pr people.
Below are some links to a couple of recent NYTimes articles, which are pretty much par for the course for the Times. The Times did allow some pushback on the 'Brits are hideous racists' narrative in their Times Picks comments, but they closed the comments when they began to be too anti Harkle. The Guardian doesn't allow any comments on Harkle stuff, or anything relating to race or immigration. I think it's sad & revealing that 2 premier liberal outlets limit comments, while the right wing outlets let them fly. Everyone's trying to figure out how to ride the populist tiger these days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/opinion/meghan-markle-prince-harry.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/11/world/europe/duchess-sussex-prince.html
Could be a way to soften up "incandescent" Will though.
Thanks! What a shame.
I wonder if she's making calls, telling her pals that "Harry is out, baby, let's set up a meeting to discuss that ..."
The the pal is on the line with their agent "uh,listen sweetie I just heard Harry is a no-go. Let's cancel that...."
One DM headline:
Millennials back Meghan Markle and Prince Harry but baby boomers say they're in the wrong: New survey reveals generational divide over attitudes to the monarchy
another DM headline:
Owner of the world's largest collection of Royal memorabilia slams Prince Harry as an 'absolute fool' for shunning his frontline duties
Make no mistake, it is existential crisis.
Over a 5 dollars brief case girl.
"Thankfully for the Queen, she has been able to rely on her 98-year-old husband for support. Prince Philip spends most of his time at Wood Farm, an unassuming cottage on the estate, after retiring from public life in 2017. However, The Mail on Sunday understands he has been staying in the main house since the crisis broke."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876671/Harry-Meghan-confronted-dire-tax-impact-abandoning-royal-family.html
Maybe there's some hope now. It's just sad that at his age in his current health he's been dragged into this.
Richard Palmer:Sandringham showdown for tomorrow’s paper
Dickie Arbiter: Sandringham summit, repair rift at pace
Victoria Arbiter: she is one of the few who has addressed the elephant in the room, racism
Emily Andrews: nothing
Maxfoster CNN: he has a lot of thoughts and tweets: Sandringham summit, DOS expected to phone in, any decision will take time to implement, first tie senior royals have met since announcement, retweeted Elizabeth Joseph who said she has never wanted a meeting dial in so badly, retweeted Roya Nikkhah who said DOC speaks of his saddness at the broken bond with Prince Harry and his sorrow that the RF is no longer a team. “I’ve put my arm around my brother my whole life and I can’t do that any more..I’m sad about that. “ https://twitter.com/royanikkhah/status/1216121535741689856 And retweets from Robert Jobson tax situation and penalties https://mobile.twitter.com/theroyaleditor/status/1216124498711318533
Rebecca English
Richard Eden
Dan Wooton
Phil Dampier
@octobergirl if skippy turns out to be right, I’ll buy her dinner lol. (The sham marriage, broke up before wedding, not together, her getting kicked out RF and divorce)
Better buy Skippy a big Steak dinner with the best Champagne your little pennies can buy.
1. Sham marriage, as in Meghan never had a vested interest in making it work, she doesn't even want to be by Harry's side
2. Marriage had backers.
3. Harry and Meghan did break up before marriage but then got back together.
4. They aren't together now.
5. She quit the BRF
6. Divorce was predicted (Skippy didn't say it happened yet).
I wonder if RF has a mental disorder specialist to advise them because "I will never come back if you don't leave them" is a textbook narcissist manipulation.
If Harry follows her he will be totally isolated and at a mercy of somebody destructive enough to hammer him into a complete breakdown, possibly suicide.
I don't like Harry but hey he is a human being.
Richard Eden: looks like throwing one’s toys out of one’s pram works.
Dan Wooton: retweets Camilla Long: William strikes the right tone here, disappointment and defeat at the hands of two exhausting, mad, damaged people. The flameout begins https://twitter.com/camillalong/status/1216119513818783745 His comment is: indeed but it’s still and extraordinary intervention from Wills.
Phil Dampier: who wants to be a millionaire? Phone a friend
Yup. Sounds legit.
Not long ago her family in the States was described as "toxic."
What do they have in common?
Give the press permission to print every tidbit of yachting stories and porn shoots the girl has been involved in to drive home the point she has never been committed to this relationship.
Print the facts about Archie - is he a doll? Is Harry actually his father/ . Was a surrogate used?
Let the truth come out....strip the Sussex title from them both - and all the privileges of HRH title - Harry will remain a Prince forever - and in time that may bring him . back to the family fold -
But for now its time for TOUGH LOVE .....and no compromises....
I don't get that memebers of the royal family would have to take a Transatlantic flight to get a visa for a Commonwealth country! I'm nobody and I've been able to get visas through the post. That story doesn't stand up.
Wasn't it claimed MM blew off a meeting with QEII to visit the NT (which QEII subsequently canceled and MM was forced to leave)? That might be the reason H&M came back, only MM chickened out.
DM newest headline as a leak has occurred - dire tax consequences.
- you can't endorse " jewelry "one day and be a royal the next, wearing a watch from yesterday's endorsement. which day is the endorsement.
Taxes on Frogmore
Taxes from Canada depending on how many days they "live" there.
And let's not forget the good ol USA - CA Li FOR NIA (TuPac - California Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wBTdfAkqGU
Peter Hunt: on one level, it’s quite extraordinary that it’s taken this long for the key players to meet face to face. And
It’s worth remembering what the sussexes’ source told @PA: “its in everyone’s interest for this to be figured out, and figured out quickly, but not at the expense of the outcome.
———————-
@liver Bird it is all very bizarre and I have no idea what’s actually going on. As @Jen says maybe we will get something official on Monday.
It is now a scrum to maintain their funding and nothing more. What they don't seem to realize is that they are funded in exchange for the service they provide. It's going to go over like a lead balloon with the taxpayers if they maintain anywhere near the funding they have received up until this point. Also to consider, if other royals take over their duties, those other royals will need/want/deserve additional funding. There is only so much money to go around and there will be an uproar if Smeg+1 demand more at the expense of other royals.
This is very likely a case of the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. Smeg doesn't seem to understand that the UK and Canada have greater protections for celebrities than the US. Our defamation laws are very different and unlike the UK, there is no law regarding using telephoto lenses to photograph people from afar. Anything seen from a pretty much anywhere except property you control if fair game. They are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Annulment worked for Caroline de Monaco and her first husband, who nobody remembers anymore. But there are conditions to it, which should be checked. I think she claimed the marriage had not been consummated, which Harry could only prove if he reveals Archie’s origin... Oh, the irony! Ha ha ha
Then: fate. Or neutralization, as Nutty called it.
Moving this over here because it's on the old thread:
>>what Rach has had to do, and that's gotta suck.
Clarifying my own words here: by 'what Rach has had to do', I meant through her own choices of how to climb the greasy pole of Hollywood and international fame. These were Rach's own choices, to be sure, I was just reflecting that Rach probably sees it as what she "had to do" in order to have any chance at fame, so she took the Harvey Wallbanger etc.
@Sandie, wow, to lie about the Obamas, that's sinking low for her. I am not surprised that it is a lie; I'm surprised that the Obamas undid it so quickly. That tells us sooooo much - no one wants near this. How did the Obamas have People mag undo it so quickly? Well, I'm going to reach here and say that it's because PBO & MO carry just a little more weight than the YachtGirl formerly known as .... well, Nutty doesn't like bad language, so I'll stop there lol
https://people.com/royals/michelle-obama-barack-obama-not-advising-prince-harry-meghan-markle-sources/
No, the Obamas are not advising the Sussexes and have not been in contact with them at all.
He has never met Meghan, and she only met her once when Meghan gatecrashed an engagement she had in London.
She has deliberately blown it all up! She even dissed the Queen in a way that can never be forgiven. who blows off a meeting with the Queen FFS? She tossed Harry to the wolves and left.
She KNOWS she won't get what she asked for. She knew all along it was ridiculous. And now it's "not her fault"! She has her plausible deniability and Harry will be ghosted.
And while the family frets and plans, and Harry worries, she is wherever laughing herself silly and booking flights to Bali.
This WAS the plan. That's why so much of it doesn't make sense!
DM has a record that Harry cornered Disney boss and practically forced him to give a voiceover gig to Meghan.
That's brutal. Using his status to get favors for his wife. RIP British Royal Family.
Last autumn, Harry was guest of honour at a large private dinner party in London. The evening was intended to boost support for one of his favourite charities but the Prince was apparently in a foul mood. He was annoyed by other guests asking where his wife was and snapped back that she was at home with Archie – which was where he should be. Guests came away thinking that this was a young man who was unhappy and angry and didn’t mind letting everyone know.
Shortly afterwards, the Sussexes decamped to North America to spend the Thanksgiving holiday with Meghan’s mother, Doria Ragland. They stayed there until last week when they returned to drop their bombshell announcement.
For those who were at that dinner, it was startlingly obvious that something serious was up. Either Prince Harry was going to have to find a way to come to terms with his life, whatever that meant, or he was going to have to make a dramatic change
There were rumblings that the relationship with Meghan wasn’t going well, but then there often are when you get a group of old pals together discussing the addition of a new bride to the group. The more charitable guests put his dour behaviour down to parental sleep deprivation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876715/ALEXANDRA-SHULMAN-rumblings-married-life-Meghan-not-going-well.html
@Liver Bird The racism narrative and examples they keep citing in American MSM:
- Rachel Johnson, prime minister Boris Johnson's sister, who commented that Markle had "rich and exotic DNA."
- The BBC commentator who tweeted an image of Meghan and Harry holding hands with a chimpanzee and joked that it was their son
- Daily Mail headline "Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton,"
They also keep saying that Meg was criticized for the same things the royals do, i.e. editing Vogue, bump touching
>>>Annulment worked for Caroline de Monaco and her first husband, who nobody remembers anymore. But there are conditions to it, which should be checked.<<<
Here in America, one can typically get an annulment for the following reasons:
- Bigamy (if your marriage partner was already married)
- Under the age of consent (and no parent signed for the consent)
- Mental illness which prevenr]ted you making a viable choice
- Failure to consummate the marriage
- Fraud
The last reason can be fraud on a variety of reasons. I actually got an annulment on this basis by a sympathetic judge.
The perfect tagline for the movie finally made about her after all of the truth is told and she is ruined forever. Because I believe that as @Nutty suggests, this will happen first
An alternate method, of course, would be to so thoroughly destroy Meg's reputation that whatever she says bears little weight with the people who matter.
And then, after that, I do imagine she'll be disposed of entirely in some way, and once again, whoopsy-daisy.
https://www.gov.uk/how-to-annul-marriage
So many people are denying that they are advising Markle. Quite odd. Markle must have floated rumors to see if anyone would bite.
Still on annulment: the grounds to declare this marriage null could be “Deliberate deceit about some personal quality“ of one of the spouses. And, in this case, yes, the media and M16 have to disclose what they have on Markle’s past.
Still on annulment: the grounds to declare this marriage null could be “Deliberate deceit about some personal quality“ of one of the spouses. And, in this case, yes, the media and M16 have to disclose what they have on Markle’s past.
>>>Still on annulment: the grounds to declare this marriage null could be “Deliberate deceit about some personal quality“ of one of the spouses. And, in this case, yes, the media and M16 have to disclose what they have on Markle’s past.<<<
That would be considered "Fraud" a reason I mentioned earlier.
“Even now, twenty-four hours after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex published their intention to start “working towards financial independence” at the ages of 35 and 38 respectively, their brand new website, sussexroyal.com, does not feature highly in the Google search results for “working towards financial independence”.
For those seeking to work towards financial independence, the collective wisdom of the internet still offers frankly parochial advice: live a frugal lifestyle, grow your earned income, invest in the stock market. That sort of thing. It is, indeed, distinctly possible that the Duke and Duchess’s work towards financial independence has not yet driven the newly financially independent* (*working towards) couple to google the phrase “working towards financial independence”. I say this because there does seem to be a rather large disconnect between what is considered the conventional means by which to achieve financial independence, and the methods the happy couple appear to be pursuing.”
Exactly. The only reason any of these celeb 'friends' wanted to be associated with the Harkles was because they represented an 'in' with the royal family. Now that they - or at least she - are on their way out and being associated with them would make it more difficult to forge a relationship with the real royals, their 'friends' are rushing to distance themselves from them. And this is just the start of it.
Hilarious!! Very snarky!
I was mentioning a Civil Annulment not a religious one. Because in most cases religious annulments don't usually involve a civil annulment. One could get one and not the other, or both and obviously, a civil one is thru the courts while a religious one (in the case of Catholics) is thru a tribunal.
Silly of me.
I think that appearing to give Rach & H everything they want is the key, not actually doing so. Appearing to capitulate will embolden both of them, esp Rach b/c she is on the narc high right now, all this ego and attention while then allowing all hell to be unleashed, and not just by the press, but everyone who has something. Think of all of the people who've remained silent out of deference to the BRF. Well, no more need for that, so throw down it is.
Also, while an Archie secret would be leverage to use against Rach in the short-term, the BRF would be wise, IMO, to get that secret out sooner or later. Rach is going to be ruined, and once she is, it won't matter if Archie was a faux bebe, it will matter if the BRF remained silent and bought her off with it. That would be royal merde of spectacular proportion, so if Fauxrchie was never a real baby, the BRF is going to have to get that out sooner than later, because it is only in this window that they have plausible deniability still.
Megs is exactly what her half-siblings said she is. I want to change my moniker from NeutralO to FedUp.
@Nutty Betheny Frankel is trashing Harry and meghan on her twitter.
Another laugh out loud moment. All this drama rivals if not surpasses Charles being a tampon.
I read on another blog the NY Times is reporting Charles is requesting Harry pay back the money spent on Frogmore.
Haven't checked it out yet.
>>>Here the annulment rules in the UK re: civil marriage. But HMTQ being the head of the COE might be a wrinkle. Would she go for that in terms of her religious beliefs? (I don't mean she'd have an official church function.)<<
I can't speak for COE as I am Catholic, but C's religious view of annulment of a marriage usually has nothing to do with civil reasons. Although in my 2nd marriage I was urged by the priest to divorce (due to spouse's domestic violence) and the priest said any man that did that to a woman "Had No concept of a mature marriage" to begin with. I had asked the priest if I should seek a legal separation instead of a divorce but the priest unequivocably said to "get a divorce".
Yep. Release the Kraken indeed!
Here is just the tip of the iceberg:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876707/Meghan-mission-bag-prince-RULE-world.html
A long article by her ex-PR representative. Balanced but a realistic portrayal of Meghan as ambitious and a user of people.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876753/Astonishing-moment-Prince-Harry-appears-tout-Meghan-Markle-Disney-voiceover-job.html
I suppose the BRF are not unfamiliar with senior members behaving in a cringe-worthy way, but it is still amusing to read (and shows that Meghan has been plotting and planning this move for a long time and was not a response to anything external).
By the way, I do not believe the following article (William would never confide in someone who would talk to the press, but if his trust was betrayed, he will find out who it was):
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7877331/Prince-William-reveals-sadness-broken-bond-Prince-Harry.html
No, you're not silly. You would be amazed at how many people don't know the difference. I think it is a shame about not knowing the annulment option (civilly that is) because some people would be able to exercise this option and for those who don't like the stigma of divorce this might ease their mind about leaving the marriage,
I Want To Know, why Meghan's first marriage to Joe was annulled? Did he get it on the basis of fraud?????.
re William - this is to The Times. The Times is reputable. This is William allowing his friend to talk and get his view out, promptly, to show how he is feeling without having a KP statement about it. William absolutely sanctioned this, being in The Times.
Meghan is an abuser and a user.
"She took me to one side and emphasised that she had ‘legs as long as a mile’, demanding that our agency do our best to secure her a substantial offer to showcase this ‘asset’."
Thanks. (Sorry you had that kind of "insider" knowledge.)
I did know there's a difference between a civil and religious annulment. I couldn't find anything on the COE's website, mostly divorce was discussed. But I'd think the unique relationship between the monarchy and the COE might be an issue (for the monarchy) if only a civil annulment was sought (assuming that Harry even could be persuaded) Plus there's Justin Welby and he's a loose cannon although silent now.