The news that the Sussexes have disposed of their UK staff - including a few longtime employees who worked with Harry before he met Meghan - has raised questions about whether they will ever again spend significant time in Britain, at least as a couple.
It was also raised questions about their commitment to "kindness", since many of their new hires had given up other jobs to sign on with the Sussexes, and the staff have been busy defending Harry and Meghan to the media as recently as this week, according to the Daily Mail.
"Meghan up to her old tricks again - getting rid of people no longer of any use to her," Piers Morgan wrote on Twitter. "I've met some ruthless operators in my time but she's something else."
(Watkins produced some truly awful social media, although it's hard to know how much of it was his work and how much of it can be traced to the Duchess' "input". Anyway, good luck on that job hunt.)
However, they are still working to arrange the Sussexes' final appearances in Britain in March, when Harry is scheduled to attend the Mountbatten Festival of Music at the Royal Albert Hall (His last engagement as Captain-General of the Royal Marines - will he wear his uniform for the last time?) and a joint appearance at the Commonwealth Day service on March 9.
Were the Sussexes told that, as ex-Royals, they would be required to pay for their own staff in London, including the expensively-hired Sarah Latham?
The Sussexes seem short on dough, whatever they may be up to with JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, although I have a hard time believing the figures that have been thrown around about possible "deals" with those banks.
The only thing the Sussexes really have to offer those banks are their contacts, and over the past three years they've cut off or annoyed many of the people who might have been useful to the bankers.
What do you think of the Sussexes' staff moves?
It was also raised questions about their commitment to "kindness", since many of their new hires had given up other jobs to sign on with the Sussexes, and the staff have been busy defending Harry and Meghan to the media as recently as this week, according to the Daily Mail.
"Meghan up to her old tricks again - getting rid of people no longer of any use to her," Piers Morgan wrote on Twitter. "I've met some ruthless operators in my time but she's something else."
Redundancy packages
Most of the staff are currently negotiating redundancy packages, including new hires like David Watkins, the social media manager the Sussexes hired away from Burberry.(Watkins produced some truly awful social media, although it's hard to know how much of it was his work and how much of it can be traced to the Duchess' "input". Anyway, good luck on that job hunt.)
However, they are still working to arrange the Sussexes' final appearances in Britain in March, when Harry is scheduled to attend the Mountbatten Festival of Music at the Royal Albert Hall (His last engagement as Captain-General of the Royal Marines - will he wear his uniform for the last time?) and a joint appearance at the Commonwealth Day service on March 9.
All about money?
It's hard not to wonder if the sudden layoffs - and the Sussexes' apparent retreat from having a presence in the UK as well as North America - have something to do with finance.Were the Sussexes told that, as ex-Royals, they would be required to pay for their own staff in London, including the expensively-hired Sarah Latham?
The Sussexes seem short on dough, whatever they may be up to with JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, although I have a hard time believing the figures that have been thrown around about possible "deals" with those banks.
The only thing the Sussexes really have to offer those banks are their contacts, and over the past three years they've cut off or annoyed many of the people who might have been useful to the bankers.
What do you think of the Sussexes' staff moves?
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It goes without saying that it's absolutely shameful to fire people that you've only recently poached from a stable job elsewhere, and to kick in the teeth people who've served you loyally for years. It says everything we need to know about Harry & Meghan's characters.
I think this move was taken both because they're unable to fund staff salaries and the Queen is no longer willing to do so, and because they have no intention of having a presence in the U.K. going forward. What a tragic and ignominious turn of events for a member of the Royal family who was recently so widely beloved and admired.
I'll be really surprised if Meghan shows her face at the Commonwealth Day service. I don't think she has the courage to face Harry's family, or the British public. Surely even she can't be so far up herself that she doesn't know how she'll be received? Not only that, but it would be a slap in the face to the taxpayers to have this narcissist stand with the Royal family after her mask has been so thoroughly ripped off. I really hope she comes down with a convenient illness and Harry has to come alone. Although would she leave Harry alone with his family at such a delicate time in her negotiations for their grifting future? We'll see...
Maybe the queen summoned them to the commonwealth service to stage an intervention for the two of them? Lol. That’s possible too.
As it stands right now, HAMS have left the royal family, and are busy bees getting their foundation up and running. As it seems, their lives are progressing how they see fit to live it.
I’d love to see a pic or video of them at Miami and Stanford though.
I also don't believe that the RF expected the Sussexes to pay for their staff, because the entire BRF is a deceiful institution. They say one thing in public to and do something else in private. They want to give the impression that they dont suffer fools gladly, yet in private, they are still actively funding the Sussexes and trying to rehabilitate Andrew.
Harry is notoriously cheap and Meghan certainly never pays for anything on her own if she can get others to do it. So no way would they pay for any UK staff themselves. And I expect Charles is already paying for the US staff/reps.
Getting rid of staff also gives them an excuse to not come back (although I think the causality goes the other way-- they weren't coming back so they didn't need staff.)
Their only trick at this point is Harry's "mental health" which is simply dragging his poor dead mother up to make money. That despicable trick has a very short shelf life. What else could they possibly bring to the table?
I’m believing very little what I’m reading about the dubious duo.🙄
90% of their income/2 million or so a year/ comes from the Duchy of Corwall via Charles, who does not want to lose Harry. The other 10% from getting paid sporadically, 50-100 thousand here and there by JP Morgan types. To raise their value as speakers and for Netflix they need more visibility, how about some appearances on Oprah or Gayle King? What are they waiting for? My take is they fear they will be big fat flops.
But Meghan never planned to live in the UK. This amounts to a smash-and-grab for the royal title she coveted during the two years she stalked Harry.
I hope their behavior is so outrageously bad during the one-year period before the reassessment that HM will have no options except to remove their duchy titles, leaving Meghan with no royal title at all, because Harry will always be a blood prince. Taking her duchess title is now likely the fastest way to get rid of her. No title likely means no Meghan. She will move on to her next prey faster than a New York baby shower minute.
I also hope there are large protests when they appear in the UK for all of their final events as senior royals and anytime they dare show their faces when they are not busy whoring the memory of Diana and the name of the House of Windsor to the highest bidder. Shame on these two, but you have to have a conscience to feel shame.
I knew as soon as I saw the engagement interview this was going to be bad, but it is far worse than I could have imagined. Harry married a woman with a profound case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
@Vince thank you for understanding
@ians girl I am allergic to most perfumes, so it can’t be my jam, but I would love to take a sniff one day of Diana’s favorites
@animal lover thank you for getting me
@ava C I appreciate and thank you for your comments about not becoming an echo chamber
@raspberry ruffle leaks could happen, I agree it’s possible. Personally, I assume there won’t be leaks. RF and such, if the queen states she supports them, I think it would be hard to leak and possibly ruin your career. I do feel for the Burberry guy, as I believe he was recently hired.
@ozmanda I love your posts, even if I disagree with some of them. As others have mentioned about my posts, I find yours helpful to examine why I think what I think. Plus, my daughter is working very very hard to be able to get into the BAU at FBI so I love when you tell of your experiences.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915063/Meghan-Markle-loses-NINTH-member-staff-aide-ran-Sussex-Royal-foundation-quits.html
If I worked in the corporate world and lost such a high percentage of staff in such a short time, I would be cautioned at the very least!
It really is a mess isn't it?
What about Harry though? He can stay 6 months. What is his tax liability?
I wish we had an international tax expert here to inform us of these issues.
It is dishonest and unethical. Some top people were lured away from their jobs at a time when the Sussexes definitely knew and behind the scenes were actively working on their 'new life'.
1. They wanted people who could boost their profile to increase the likelihood of success on their own (for success read make lots of money and become the most influential and famous people in the world). Meghan's reputation in particular needed a lot of work.
2. Was the idea of being part-time working royals (as declared in their manifesto) a real one that was shut down by the BRF? If it was, then they would have needed some of the staff at BP and one could assume that they hired some of the people with every intention of keeping them.
3. Realistically, their plan of being part-time royals was never going to work. Did they realise that? Were the staff they hired recently best for working royals or best for their scheme to conquer the world and make heaps of money? It seems to be the latter. Yet, they have kept none of them. (Sara Latham is completely inappropriate for British royalty but has plenty of experience in politics and thus elite finance in the USA and Britain, but they are not keeping her. Was she pushed? Did she jump? Can they just not afford her?)
4. I agree with Nutty that they just cannot afford to run an office at BP, not even a very small one. Financially they must have been cut off at the knees by the BRF (smiling and solicitous faces for show but ruthless behind the scenes?) and I suspect their money-grabbing schemes (violating the agreement for the transition period and going forward honouring the values of the Queen, as they have promised) have not panned out as they hoped.
I think this is unexpected (by them). They've been basking in the floating speeches stories, this will all make us lots of money rosy glow and now we can even think of buying a house.
My guess is that after the demand manifesto, the high paycheck numbers in play publically, they were told that they were now responsible for all your staff and here is the bill. Don't know if it was part of some If/Then clause in the written Megxit agreement hammered out by H or a failure to read the fine print of what costs they would cover as part of the ramping toward independence.
And, yet again, it clearly shows a huge lack of long term strategy (by her team) as well as the history of dropping people at a moment's notice (by her). What we are not (yet) reading is anything from the former staff about how this was done or or by whom. And, H is losing the last threads of known people linking back to the past.
humming "What a long strange trip it's been." and, I think it will continue in fits and starts like clogged engine with bad gas.
As far as the lack of public appearances, maybe HM insisted they wait until spring.
Absence is not making the heart grow fonder.
With this move, unequivocally announcing that they are done with England, I think it’s time for the transition period to come to an end. The couple should be told pronto that their allowance from the Duchy is at an end, And their security costs will be funded only until March 15. That gives them one month to find and hire their own personnel... out of pocket. The queen seems disinclined to strip the titles, but really what lucrative and desirable value does the brand “suspects“ have at this point? The duo have made it plain to the world That they do not consider themselves part of the royal family, so it’s time to give them their wish, and that means no more money at all from the bank of dad and grandma. Sussex is now a meaningless And Ludicrous ego exercise. The chances they were cash in big on it are increasingly remote. It’s hardly worth the time and expense and aggrieved it’s going to take to bring lawsuits against Meg For every interaction Of the no merching rule. I say let them keep it, but pull any sources of funding for this ridiculous pair who have been actively cruel To the family that Megan never had in the family that Harry always had. They will fail soon enough, and they are already well on their way to being A pathetic reincarnation of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
Just a reminder that recent research has shown that those with NPD do not necessarily have a deep and profound insecurity. For some, these traits are genuinely what is in the subconscious depths as well and it is perhaps the latter who are unable to change.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/9741#traitsBelow are the most common traits found in people with NPD:
An insatiable appetite for the attention of others
Extreme feelings of jealousy
An expectation of special treatment
Exaggerating achievements, talents, and importance
Extreme sensitivity and a tendency to be easily hurt and to feel rejected with little provocation
Difficulty maintaining healthful relationships
Fantasizing about their own intelligence, success, power, and appearance
An ability to take advantage of others to achieve a goal, without regret or conscience
A lack empathy, or ability to understand and share the feelings of others, and a tendency to disregard others' feelings
A belief that only certain people can understand their uniqueness
A tendency to consider themselves as skilled in romance
Responding to criticism with anger, humiliation, and shame
Seeking out praise and positive reinforcement from others
An expectation that others will agree with them and go along with what they want
Whatever they crave or yearn for must be "the best"
Others may see narcissists' goals as selfish ones. They may describe the person as self-obsessed, arrogant, tough-minded, and lacking emotion.
The following must be present for a diagnosis of NPD to be made:
The patient's idea and importance of self is exaggerated.
Fantasies about beauty, success, and power dominate the individual's thoughts.
The person thinks they are special, and relate only to other "special" people.
They need to be admired all the time.
They believe they are entitled to most things.
They manipulate and take advantage of others.
They lack empathy, the ability to feel and recognize the feelings and needs of others.
They envy other people.
Their behaviour appears haughty or arrogant.
Simply Red - Money's Too Tight To Mention live 1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU_c9o_LuiA
They physical and emotionally abuse their children. They use their children to make them look better. They are deeply envious of their children. They undermine their children and play them against each other. It never ends, until you end it, one way or another.
I am 12 years no contact with my mother. I don't miss her and I don't feel guilty.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/harrys-calgary-club-visit-creates-tempest-in-a-d-cup/article20404492/
I applaud your courage! In my family it has been 15 years and I too don't feel guilty.
http://www.windsorgreatpark.co.uk/en/live-and-work/property/residential-lettings
Gives some idea of what Frogmore Cottage is worth.
I also wonder why Forest Gate Lodge was not considered suitable.
Then again, I wonder why they were not offered more of an estate with larger grounds and more outbuildings as other BRF members have. Was there none available?
I'm going with the million dollar speeches aren't materializing and staff is expensive.
100% agree.
I don’t have any sympathy for Harry - he made his own mess - but can you imagine what it must be like to be marooned in that house with just MM and (possibly) Archie, possibly her friend Markus, probably some new RPOs, living in a new country, cut off from everything and everyone you’ve known as familiar for the last 35 years, being paranoid about stepping out of the house and getting papped, and everything you do being a secret? Plus the dawning realization that MM’s grandiose plans for worldwide fame and fortune (er, philanthropy) may work as well as the rest of her (yak) hair-brained schemes. For someone who may be in a fragile mental state, I doubt he’s in a good place mentally or physically right now.
2. The isolation of H is complete now
3. Meg wants to pour all the resources into her North America dreams
Meg might be using the GS and JPM opportunities to hunt for her next meal tickets. Their so-called charity adventure will also give Meg opportunities to meet billionaires. H is fast approaching his expiration date.
Welcome back.
As far as the BRF is concerned, I'm most impressed with Kate and William.
The Sussexes are a mess in running an organization so far.
I assume that either a skeleton staff will stay on to arrange the last few appearances or the Queen's staff will take care of arrangements (a nightmare working with that messy couple).
Will they stay at BP (Meghan would love the prestige of that even though she has trashed the BRF and the UK, but would hate having no control) or St James Palace or will they hole up at Soho House?
Based on the ‘profound case of NPD’, malignant narcissism diagnoses we arm-chair psychiatrists have laid on her (accurately, i believe), there is no way she would or could have accepted that ‘second place’ slot for a day, let alone a lifetime. There was never another reason NEEDED* for her to abandon her place as a senior royal.
*But there were other reasons, of course, greed being the major one.
Meghan Markle’s Creep Towards Los Angeles: Handicapping Ellen’s And Oprah’s Chances For The First Confessional “Interview”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/02/14/meghan-markles-creep-towards-los-angeles-handicapping-ellens-and-oprahs-chances-for-the-first-confessional-interview/#641197c139b4
I was inquiring,of the Duchess Dumdbutt, how she described the birth of Archificial. Her Royal Hiney exclaimed, “Oh Miss Scarlett, I don’t know nuttin about birth in’ no Babies!” I pretty much knew THAT, then I stopped before I asked if she knew anything besides gritting.
I did find it funny that she suddenly pops up today and tweets for Valentine's Day. Has she even said a peep about Black History Month at all in the US?
There's also a new article out about how her Vogue issue was a HUGE SUCCESS!11!!! *gags* I wonder if the BRF was going to issue something today and she's trying to detract from that?
IMHO - the Sussexes are solvent, but cash poor. Hence the firing of the UK staff. They apparently retain their US based staff, hired by MM. I realize HM loves her grandson, but the bailout only goes so far: if the Grifters, oops, Sussexes desire to be self sustaining, so be it.
Re: the March visit - I will be shocked if either appear. Imagine: Who wants to hear that their life style does not conform / reflecting poorly on the RF/ HM and that they must regroup? More importantly - who wants to hear the boos that will come when they appear in public with the Family?
Re: the Kraken: it is stirring big time. The press is negative: when a reporter asks for verification of a news drop (Stanford citing), then the Tide has turned. My popcorn is restocked for the MoS trial when the gate is lifted.
-The funding to pay the UK staff was pulled
-Markle will not return to the UK, even for a short appearance
- I have no sympathy for her former staff. They knew exactly who she was and accepted a deal with the devil.
-Hope that at least one of them spills the beans.
Would add that I would not be surprised if Latham was rehired in another division of Smarkle ltd. She has a lot of US contacts.
Where's Archie? Travelling or with the nanny?
Did not have time to read the copy behind the story. But it was hard to miss.
To all of nutties, my Valentines Day is really a thank you for all of your wonderful insights into this out of control couple. A special thanks to those who have shared their insights about being victims of NPD parents and other dreadful people with narcissist traits.
>>>I wonder why they were not offered more of an estate with larger grounds and more outbuildings as other BRF members have. Was there none available?<<<
Well, Harry is not the Queen's child so I'd not expect his home/estate to look like theirs do. He's also not a future monarch like Will.
Frogmore is as nice (nicer really) than where Eugenie and Jack live (that thanks to Harry's dumb film we've seen.) And as discussed before, Charles offered them a property in Herefordshire/Hertfordshire (whichever it is, DE uses both names) far away from London paps.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1172713/royal-news-latest-meghan-markle-prince-harry-la-move-snub-charles-Hertfordshire-estate-pla
It was smart not to give them anything else, that's for sure.
I would love, as a malignant narc's daughter, to go no contact.
All I can muster is low contact. My narc has everyone fooled and is very beautiful and charming like MM. However, MM's narc power has seemingly become somewhat diminished due to her absolute disregard for HM and her overly arrogant pushy attitude, to those paying attention that is.
It is devastating to be used and abused by these people. They never change. It is truly a severe mental illness.
For those here that have broken free, I'm so happy for you and admire your courage.
My favourite tarot reader had a look at the issue of the 'big' interview for Meghan and picked up the following:
1. People are still interested in Harry. He is a much bigger draw card than Meghan. The marriage is energetically over (how much DA to cover this up would be needed?) and Meghan is just waiting to set herself up with a definite big income before ditching him. Meghan does not want to do joint interviews with Harry as her focus is solely on setting HERSELF up independent of him. She may have to compromise just to get the exposure of the big interview but it would not be to her benefit.
2. The interviews will be carefully scripted and managed. This is all about the rehabilitation of Meghan's image and setting her up to make lots of money and have the lifestyle she has always wanted and hustled so hard for.
3. She will do both Ellen and Oprah. The latter would be more sympathetic for the trembling lower lip and tears (there is a video clip of Meghan boasting that she can switch on the tears within seconds and then demonstrating exactly that with no prompt at all). So, Ellen mostly for rehabilitation of image (Ellen will show strong and unquestioning support for whatever narrative Meghan sets up), and Oprah for the sympathetic tell-all reveal.
4. She will throw some shade at Kate, the Queen, etc. She does not really want to (she wants the interviews to be 100% abut her), but if pushed, there may be some shade thrown at senior members of the BRF. If Harry is sitting next to her, for her to do so would be to openly and contemptuously show her complete domination and control over him. Her PR team would advise against it. These are family that Harry once deeply loved.
Personally, I think the audience for both interviews will be mostly for curiosity and that Meghan has missed the boat, i.e. left it too long and been too damagingly exposed in the meanwhile, but people can be very stupid and she may get enough support to succeed in her plan.
I doubt that BP insiders are talking/leaking to US Weekly. These are stories put out by Meghan.
1. Since Harry and Meghan are still President and Vice President of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust, it is normal protocol that they would be invited to Commonwealth Day ceremonies. To not invite them would be an appalling breach of protocol and BP does not do that (by invite I mean contact them to confirm they will be there and make the relevant arrangements ... time, procedure, and so on).
2. Harry and Meghan are out (they jumped and were not pushed). They have no role to play in the BRF so why would a united front be required? For what? Why would the Queen use the BRF's best assets (the Cambridges) to bolster the image of the Sussexes for the latter to use for self promotion? This makes no sense to me.
Judging by what the British Royal Marines are saying about him the men of duty are very unlikely to take him seriously. I can't believe the insolence of him going to people who actually risked their lives and never had protection officers following their every move ready to shield them.
It will flop.
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Indeed it will. We veterans can spot a phoney a mile away. If anything, it digs Harry in deeper than he was before.
Why are they doing this to themselves?
D.J. Xxxxx! Hehehe, good one!
@Sandie - that list of traits is chilling. I think I could give at least one example of each behavior off the top of my head.
@MustySyphone and @ANarcsDaughter. My hearts breaks when I think of what you went through with your parents. I applaud you for your courage and because you know you didn't deserve a narc for a parent. Thank you for sharing your insights with us.
This is dominating my thoughts more than any other aspect of this extended train crash. It feels as if this is becoming a race against time, to limit the damage. The only way to do this is to remove that title from Meghan. My understanding is that the title would necessarily have to be removed from Harry too, as while Meghan is his wife, she retains a title through him if he has one. Just as Camilla will be Queen regardless of how Charles sweetened the pill for the masses at the time of his second marriage.
However the Queen will go on hesitating and hesitating and letting her heart rule her head, allowing Meghan full rein and thereby endangering her legacy and decades of effort and sacrifice by her husband, approaching his centenary. It's awful to witness.
That title is both shield and weapon for Meghan and she will use it every moment of her waking life until it is wrenched away from her greedy grasping fingers. Take it! Now! Harry's title can be restored later even though he doesn't deserve it. When he's free again. I know titles shouldn't be bandied about like this, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
I've wished for months that Elizabeth II would channel Elizabeth I as I've grown up with the beloved notion of the hard-nosed practical Tudor queen versus that bloody irritating faffy Mary Queen of Scots. However I've recently been reading some revisionist histories showing that Elizabeth I was far more hesitant and uncertain than I want to accept. She was saved and strengthened by Lord Burghley and Walsingham, to a far greater extent than has been revealed before.
My inner feminist rebels at this notion. I've had to force myself to keep reading as I just don't want to change my image of her. However I've always known Elizabeth I was a real diva and procrastinator. Somehow that didn't damage her Armada image. But that procrastinating side would be consistent with this revisionist interpretation.
This is a long-winded way of saying that great queens need great advisors, and our Queen doesn't have these any more. Not even one. Instead she has a weak, vacillating heir in the wings, getting closer and closer to his turn. Dark times.
Wait, she posted a video of herself giggling and celebrating after the news broke that she had axed 15 people? The same day? What is wrong with her?
I think the best effect is always achieved when a man and a woman are working together in tandem. The best example that comes to mind is Victoria and Albert. They deliberately created a public image upholding straight moral qualities, dignity and duty. Albert practically saved the previously very unpopular Hanoverian monarchy that had been widely condemned for immorality.
When Albert died Vctoria nearly destroyed all the good by going into seclusion and ignoring her role as a moral anchor for the nation.
Unfortunately with Phillip in retirement Elizabeth is not as decisive as she should be. The previous enormous respect for her is still there due to momentum but it is beginning to wear thin.
She may be playing some sort of long term complicated game but the fine aspects are lost on me. I see the fatal softness towards Harry that will come back and bite them later on.
Had MM played her cards right all the jewels and properties would have come their way. She just wanted it all immediately.
An area where I disagree with many is the subject of Archie. Believe me, Meghan gave birth to Harry's son. I can believe she needed some IVF or other treatments, but knowing her cunning and narcissim, the FIRST thing that woman did was get pregnant with Harry's child. It's the ultimate trump card. Remember her tiny smirk during their vows when the minister mentioned having children? The child is real and he is Harry's. My sister and I follow the Royal Family and when she announced her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding, well we were surprised it took her that long to get pregnant! Her secretiveness about Archie's birth, her possessiveness of him, are all part and parcel of the chess game with the Royal Family. One of the main reasons the Royal Family are being so careful in dealing with H & M is because of Archie. I believe the Queen, Charles, William and the whole family are devistated that they cannot be a part of the little boy's life. If Meghan had not had Harry's child, I think they would have put a boot up her ass when she said she wanted out!
Have you seen Harry is trying to create the niche for himself ""working with the injured vets" in the States? Does anybody believe American vets will respect the man who ran away from his duties?
Judging by what the British Royal Marines are saying about him the men of duty are very unlikely to take him seriously. I can't believe the insolence of him going to people who actually risked their lives and never had protection officers following their every move ready to shield them.
It will flop.
Veterans respect others that prize duty and honor. Harry has neither.
I don’t think they are out of money (Daddy Warbucks doesn’t have the stomach to cut them off, after all), but they definitely don’t have what they need to live in the style they have become accustomed to and now people (even some US outlets) are starting to question their, um, “money-making enterprises”. The DM has been running all these stories about how they are rumored to be buying $11 million and up houses in Toronto and that they also want places in New York nd LA and I just keep thinking these two have been freeloading in a shady Vancouver mansion for literally months, in what world do they have the kind of money to buy multiple multimillion dollar properties. Then I remember how divorced from reality Sussex sugar land is and I remember.
Of course HAMS are having some sort of PR spin doctors working for them. But I do not see them succeeding. Why? A single cartoon destroys all of their efforts:
Harry's head on a dog been led away by Markle and a post behind them with a crown on top and a puddle of dog urine at it's base. Harry Markle's latest has it.
I am waiting for the one with the Queen arriving to her office in the morning to find a pile of feces on the table with Markle asking Harry in the background "Are you sure they will not make the connection?"
I can't imagine Harry attending anything military from now on. Ever. Yet he may have to soon, as his last hurrah? She won't. She ran away before, and this would be even more challenging than the Sandringham summit. Especially as she would have been in an ante-room somewhere for that, or at Frogmore. Can you see her having to stand to attention in front of a crowd that despises her? Even she would know they despise her and why, no matter how she explains it away to herself.
You are right, i can't imagine her standing in front before people. Her sweaty armpits prove she knew she was doing something wrong with huge implications and she is a coward.
Brits are polite but I expect some of us could show up with tomatoes and eggs in pockets.
"Plans went ahead [on the eve of W&K's engagement] for an eighty-five-hundred-square-foot, neoclassical stone “starter palace” on the Duchy of Cornwall’s nine-hundred-acre Harewood Park Estate, located some fifty miles from Highgrove in the Wye Valley of Herefordshire. [...] Prince Charles purchased the property in 2000 with idea of turning the property into a model English village—until Kate Middleton came along. Built around a courtyard from recycled bricks, timber, and slate, the new Harewood Park would boast six ground-floor reception rooms, six bedroom suites, fourteen bathrooms, a library, a swimming pool, tennis courts, formal gardens, stables, an orangery, and a chapel. Most important to the ecologically correct Prince of Wales, Harewood Park would be the first truly 'green' palace in the kingdom."
As we've said, what a missed opportunity! My God, what we would give to have that as a starting point!
Different stories
1. Her PR fixers will exploit and monetize
2. Queen wants William and harry to have united front at commonwealth day
3. They won't be going to PA birthday
4. Staff gets the Axe in Megxit bloodbath
5. Meghan in giggles retrospective Vogue behind scenes pics - on same day as staff fired
6. Diana would never have done SussexRoyal...US media turning on MM and PH
7. PH is impulsive and emotional vs PW level headed
marginal but still
PA linked to another creepy sex pervert Peter Nygard (not really new news for some of us)
But they will also have ay least one more home in the US, possibly two, one in LA and one in NYC. Upkeep for all that will cost a lot. So will all the staff, plus clothes and other stuff just to maintain Meghan. They will have to either do a LOT of work or raise a tremendous amount for Sussex Royal so they can expense this stuff, but their foundation will be under very close scrutiny by tax officials in the US and more importantly by The Firm in the UK and UK tax officials plus Canadian tax officials.
I think they will have an initial flush of money come in because they are a novelty right now, but as soon as that wears off they will run into debt to maintain the narcissistic facade of success and it will go downhill from there.
You read my thoughts! 😳This has entered my mind over recent times. I’m now harden to believe if the dubious duo ever showed their faces on British soil again, eggs and tomatoes would be thrown at them. 🤔
OMG - she turned down an "orangery" in the "green palace" with near total privacy...
just proves how her facade, the story she tells about herself and what she wants is much different than the reality.
It was everything she claims to want...a freakin orangery.
who ever heard of that?
What she really wanted was the whole palace...and the crown.
Harkles stuff - this whole thing about them planning for a while kinda pours water in their whole excuse of “we are stepping Down due to harassment day etc etc etc”. I am starting to wonder if this was a arrangement between them from the start? I am starting to question the “poor Harry got duped” narrative.
They seem to be struggling for money? I'm laughing at that. They seem to have no problems keeping their PR going. Who is it? Sunshine Sachs? Because there is an awful lot of Sussex fluffing out there in tabloid world.
More importantly, and the only thing that matters, is that if they feel or we feel they are floundering monetarily it is for one reason only: the public is being brainwashed that they need money in order to be "financially independent". Hello? The guy has millions. THE SUSSEXES ARE ALREADY FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT. And yet they are greedy for daddy's and taxpayers' millions as well meanwhile crying impoverishment.
Bottomline, the Sussexes are already financially independent and we suckers bought their poor me narrative. They have set the standard for financial independence and are leading the public about by the nose with these manipulations, by reframing what "financial independence" means. Like they're hard workers, instead of a failure to launch by a couple of feckless losers pushing 40.
https://blindgossip.com/she-floated-her-buyout-number/
Supposedly, some "go away money" numbers were floated, but the bait was not taken.
I sincerely hope that PC is turning off the money spigot, and that they will be forced to make other changes.
It is funny, I think about myself, if I wanted to "escape" from the BRF and settle in the US (and had a good chunk of money available). I would buy a small home or medium sized condo in my favorite city, and be cozy and quiet. I would do good works and figure out a way to make some money. With minimum security, minimum housing upkeep, etc. I could probably live on what Harry inherited and PC would give me. But, of course that is the opposite of what they want to do!!
""I’m now harden to believe if the dubious duo ever showed their faces on British soil again, eggs and tomatoes would be thrown at them. 🤔""
I think throwing ripe bananas with empowering messages written on them is more appropriate...messages like;
"Don't cry Harry, thrive"..."
"Meg, you don't make it easy
"Be all u can b elsewhere"
"Please immigrate you denigrates"
"Promise you'll stay away"
I am waiting to see how long it will take until Markus has enough - my feelings are he is smart enough to have a nice and juicy dossier on both of them and as soon as they stop being of value to him he is going to release the hounds. I also think we not have to wait long as the tidbits being released seem to be a tester of how the public will want to know.
https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markles-british-vogue-cover-is-way-less-woke-than-you-think/?__twitter_impression=true
Markle had sixteen spots and didn’t put a single female scientist, engineer, or business executive.
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/the-cost-and-karmic-value-of-sussex-loyalty/
Reports only mention 6 staff by name but they supposedly have 15. Does anyone know who the other 9 are and what they do?
Meghan cannot compete with scientists and engineers, or even business executives, no matter how much word salad she sprouts or belly cupping she does ... and so on. Besides, what can they do for her? Hillary Clinton may fawn all over her, but why would women such as those highlighted in the following article have any interest in Meghan?
https://www.srgtalent.com/blog/4-female-scientists-today-who-are-changing-the-world
Just curious.
I suspect that they might have been told in January that the Smirkles were leaving to live abroad 'part time" and not that they would all be fired.
Could it be they are not "upholding the values of HM"? And this is the result?
Equally, could the Commonwealth Day invition/order have been issued to tell them face to face that the agreement was violated and what the new terms are? Dare I dream that Sussex Royal and the RPOs are also cut?
I haven't been on Sussex Royal since I don't want to give them any traffic if I can avoid it, but I'll bet they/she are still using HRH. This speaks to me of defiance. I realize no end day was set exactly to resist using them, so they may not be violating the letter of the agreement, but they would be violating the spirit.
And I am dead certain both are defiant. If thermally that has loved, accepted and nurtured both. What I'm less certain of is a strong, timely and public rebuke from the Queen, so I am probably just wishful-thinking.
>>>I am a bit confused about the reports regarding this firing. The articles I have read state that the staff were told in January.<<<
The reports I read said Harry and Meghan told them when they were in the UK in January. But when M was still in the UK before fleeing back to Canada, there is every indication H&M still thought they'd be able to be part-time royals splitting their time between the UK and North America. So I don't believe the BP staff was told they would be let go in January because I think at that point, H&M assumed their office would continue along. Certainly the "manifesto" and Harry's speech about leaving just before he left the UK suggested the outcome wasn't what he and Meghan expected. I don't think the firing relates to anything that occurred this month--- the die was cast in January after the Sandringham conference. But I'm not buying the staff was notified then of the upcoming firing.
And
*Of the family that has loved, etc.
Le sigh
Americans love the Queen. People I know hate, really hate, HAMS. Most of these haters did not care less about the royals, either way, but they hate cheaters, losers, thieves, liars, and fakers. They both look like reptiles. Harry is know allowing his drug, alcohol and stupidity finally shine bright. Americans lived Diana, for her youth, beauty, heart, and that, no matter what went between her and Charles, Diana had deep respect for the Queen, Prince Philip, the Monarchy, royals (Spencers and Churchill’s, Diana’s blood, had always supported the crown, most of the time. Diana is dead for over two decades, she should not be used to schilling money for a Clinton-type for profit Foundation, or travel company, or whatever. I personally will pull my money out of any company that pays them money to speak, to act, to do anything except be shuttled up.
Harry forgets he is not an only child. He does not remember his mother, but he is living off her bones today. Shameful.
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-zika-factsheet-basics.htm#toc02
“Therefore, in most parts of Australia, there is no risk of Zika virus being spread by mosquitoes. Currently, all cases of Zika virus diagnosed in Australia were caught overseas.”
Zika Virus Travel Advice – Update July 27th, 2018. The Ministry of Health and Medical Services continues to conduct surveillance, including laboratory testing, for Zika Virus Disease in Fiji. In 2017 there was one confirmed case detected. There have been zero confirmed cases to date in 2018.
Ministry of Health (.gov) › fj
Ava C said ..."However I've recently been reading some revisionist histories showing that Elizabeth I was far more hesitant and uncertain than I want to accept."
Tonga is listed as category 1 : Area with new introduction or re-introduction with ongoing transmission.
So when they visited October 2018 Zika was present.
As far as I know we don’t have Zika mozzies here in Oz, do you know Ozmanda?
Maybe M thinks she is impervious to Zika.
Zika virus in pregnant women may cause severe birth defects. Pregnant women should consider deferring travel to Zika infected countries.
Also info on pregnant women avoiding unprotected sex when partner has been in Zika infected countries.
Zit and Ik were laughing all the time at the British people and the Commonwealth people, smirking and trashing the Queen. They should have thought, but both are dumb, greedy and will be shuttling too close to the sun very soon, to listen to “Duh?” Liar Harry, who has ptsd from flashing cameras, will be sorry he ever yelled for doing things his way to thousands of dumb teenagers, and then getting on his knees, as if to be knighted, to the Disney chairman, begging for work. Can anyone imagine what the guy thought? “We paid this schmuck $3 million bucks, and we get two unattractive, middle-aged people, instead of the real royalty? Beyonce, we wanted class, not trash. These two are past sell date. Where are the next kings, or at least the Amazon Princess Anne? Real royals? No York’s, no Porks, no HAMS anymore.”
Harry, wait for when the American paps follow you. Every single day, place, area. If your kid is in a public space, his face can be shown, although most publications respect the children of celebs, and give them privacy. But many do not. Once Charles says “Go!” every move the ZITIKS will be seen buying toilets. Freedom of Press.
At least some of the “experts” quoted in the various articles saying what they thought the Harkles could make as rent-a-royals, were actually giving a monetary range that Meghan would accept to leave. As I recall, the numbers ranged between $400 million to $1 billion.
If this is true, she is just plain evil to be leading Harry on like this. But then, she has been leading him on since their first date at SoHo House and he has been happy to oblige.
Here is the Blind Gossip post. Because I can’t make the html work on here, I added BG: and Source: with quotation marks.
BLIND GOSSIP
She Floated Her Buyout Number
February 14, 2020
[Blind Gossip] We have a fascinating story to tell you about a famous couple!
BG: This actress has caused so much controversy – and caused so many disruptions to the family into which she married – that it is sometimes difficult to figure out exactly what kind of game she is playing.
BG: Allow us to tell you about one game she played that was so public – yet so sneaky – that we all missed it!
Source: “There was actually a point at which his family could have made her “go away” by paying her off.”
BG: When was that? What was she looking for?
Source: “During the negotiations. She would have accepted a very large amount of cash to walk away.”
BG: Here’s what happened. She had her people pass along her number to several outsiders. They, in turn, publicly stated the number as the “value” that they put on her brand.
BG: That (italic text for “That”) was the amount of the buyout she was proposing!”
Source: “That range was her ask. She would have liked the high end, but would have settled for the low end.”
BG: Why make that number so public? Why didn’t our actress just have her people negotiate directly with the family in private?
Source: “To have asked them for it directly – either verbally or in writing – would have presented serious legal issues. This way it looked like a simple and objective analysis done by outsiders.”
BG: Not to mention the fact that her husband would likely have discovered that she was willing to trade him for a very large, ransom-like payoff!
BG: So the ask was made via some very public statements. How did his family react?
Source: “His family knew exactly what she was doing. They probably did debate the pros and cons of meeting her demands or making an alternative offer. However, in the end, they decided it was all so egregious that it was better to simply sever the relationship. They just hope that he will return someday.”
BG: Supposedly she was surprised that they did not make an offer, but not devastated.
BG: While she did not get exactly what she was wanted – which was a quick buyout – she will now set out to “earn” that money alongside her hapless and naive husband.
He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of UK and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada. He was a Rhodes Scholar, as was Bill Clinton, whose daughter,Chelsea, went to Stanford.
Looks like some strings were pulled for this visit, if it even happened. A favor could have been called in to ask him to use his name in PR articles about the visit.
I just can't believe that a university with a population of approx. 20,000 students with camera phones, that not one photo has leaked.
Here's Marc Tessier-Levigne's CV:
https://president.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/08/Tessier-Lavigne_CV_08.2018.pdf
https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/01/28/condoleezza-rice-assumes-post-as-new-hoover-institution-director/
"Don't cry Harry, thrive"..."
"Meg, you don't make it easy
"Be all u can b elsewhere"
"Please immigrate you denigrates"
"Promise you'll stay away"
😂🤣😂 Oh I love it!
@Mimi you’re welcome, glad it gave you a giggle.
"Dr. Tessier-Lavigne serves on several scientific advisory, non-profit, and corporate boards, including the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. He has also co-founded two start-up companies targeting neurological disease (Renovis) and neurodegenerative disease (Denali). He was executive vice president for research and chief scientific officer at Genentech where he directed 1,400 scientists in disease research and drug discovery for cancer, immune disorders, infectious diseases, and neurodegenerative diseases while maintaining an active research laboratory."
https://gef.stanford.edu/people/marc-tessier-lavigne
Background info from Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/4277665
I don’t expect to see them both in the UK anytime soon, they will be booed, & deservedly so. You can’t disrespect the Queen, & country & expect a welcome back. I’m British, I wouldn’t toss a rotten tomato, maybe an over ripe banana, but a full bellied boo is in order, Harry would finally get the message, his wife wouldn’t dare show up.
Excellent point! These con artist grifters will eventually turn on each other. There is no honor among thieves.
Either release his hounds or blackmail them. What a dirty, sordid world they inhabit.
$400MM? Puh-leeze!
Diana got less than a tenth of that and she was married for 12 (?) years to someone who constitutionally mattered, and she gave birth to the heir and the spare.
I mean, Blind Gossip's item is completely laughable. But, it's been quiet on the Harkle front and anything for clicks, right?
Thank you for your kind words.
Last night I clicked on a link that led me to clip of HAMS wedding, can't remember the site, and there was a GIF of PW's expression during their vows. It spoke volumes as to his feelings.
I can't get it out of my head. I felt so sad for him looking at the expression on his face.
I feel this whole situation could have been handled so differently if it were not for MM. The only thing that makes sense to me is that Harry wants to eclipse his brother with fame and fortune. Their greed for money is glaringly obvious to so many and even the mills on Reddit and youtube are asking the hard questions now. One slow thinker just wanted them to be left alone and couldn't understand why everyone was hating on them and about ten others popped up and all mentioned they were fine with that but HAMS are rich and should pay for themselves.
Of course there is still the woke crowd crying racist, but even that angle was getting the beat down. They are also pushing the narrative that Boomers are the only people that care about this and many non boomers chimed in to say they didn't care at all as long as they aren't
having to pay to support them.
I am getting a little bored of it all as well. The direction in which they were heading has been crystal since HRC, MO, Fonda, Oprah and all that crowd began their bleating.
These two will make their money with Clinton et al coaching and us poor plebs in the US will get to hear Ms. Pushy Pants preach her woke politcial bs ad naseum. God help us all.
I agree, ridiculous blind & ridiculous sums.
But.. may be a grain of truth behind it. I wouldn’t put anything past Megs, she would sell her granny if she could, oh, she’s sold Harrys instead.
@Portcitygirl
Once she has given her tell all to Oprah et al, she will be finished. That’s all she has going for her, everyone, including us, is waiting for the reveal. Once she’s aired her many, supposed, grievances she will be forgotten. Everyone is waiting for the interviews, no one gives a toot for their faux foundation.
$400MM? Puh-leeze!
Diana got less than a tenth of that and she was married for 12 (?) years to someone who constitutionally mattered, and she gave birth to the heir and the spare.
I mean, Blind Gossip's item is completely laughable. But, it's been quiet on the Harkle front and anything for clicks, right?’
I never believe the Canadian blinds, but this site has been proved correct many times over.
However, I agree, I really don’t know how the royals would know she was naming her price in the media! and yes the amount was exorbitant! Maybe there’s a grain of truth in it, but I’m also not believing the stories about JP Morgan, Stanford and Goldman Sachs either, I think it’s all PR fluff to make the Sussex’s look like they are both popular and surviving. 🤔
I pray you are right.
So right. “ She doesn’t have what it takes to make it in the US”
She didn’t have it before, despite her lurpak lap dancing, Harmegeddon is nigh!
Regarding the above link, this is the quote that resonated with me, a chemical engineer in my past life.
Markle had sixteen spots and didn’t put a single female scientist, engineer, or business executive.
@KnitWit: The absence of any women from the STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) struck me as a glaring omission. Without going into details of my occupation, I am in the health field. After reading the bios of who she chose, it was surprising Her Wokeness didn’t feature a woman who had achieved something in medicine, specifically women’s health, mother and child health, or my favorite, mental and emotional health issues, which she could have also linked to Harry’s interest in mental health.
But no, apparently there was nobody in these fields who met her known standard of being what she has long called “Brand Meghan.”
Also: Remember that one of the ways the RF gets their side about issues out to the public is to allow courtiers or close friends to speak to the media to pass along info they want out in the public arena of discussion, but can’t say themselves or in a palace press release.
Can you IMAGINE Kate, who participated in a podcast the other day, discussing this? Most certainly not.
Organizations such as the RF in the UK and the White House here in the US (and this is done by all presidential administrations) often leak through others to move info out and still be able to distance themselves from it.
Meghan herself does this all the time now to promote and defend herself. That’s what the mysteriously leaked letter to Thomas and her “five anonymous friends” article in People was about, as well as the most recent quotes from someone allegedly in her inner circle in Vancouver (probably Markus) saying how “besotted” (not a commonly used term by us Yanks) H & M are with each other are since the Megxit announcement.
I think perhaps Meghan knew the info about her offer to walkaway was going to come out, which reveals her as a truly cold, predatory person, which all narcs are. So she used or paid People, one of her favorite media mouthpieces, to attempt to blunt Blind Gossip’s walkaway money post.
I still haven't been able to force myself to finish his book on Elizabeth I. I keep swallowing small amounts like nasty medicine. When I literally wanted to throw it away, early on, I had a frank talk with myself. Did I want to cling to my cosy ideas I've had since I was a child or did I want to examine these claims to a very different truth? It reflected on to Meghan too. I felt I didn't have the right to take part in a blog like this if I was going to be an Elizabeth I sugar!
Meg could have chosen Catherine Hamlin, 96, Australian obstetrician/gynaecologist.
With her doctor husband they moved to Ethiopia in 1959 & established the Addis Ababa Fistula Hospital.
She has saved, & changed the lives of many, many women by providing free fistula repair surgery to poor women damaged by child birth.
Just think what Megs input could have done for this charity, given them worldwide recognition & possible big donations.
Just think what this charity could have done for Meg ticking boxes...
Woc, children, Africa, & Catherine hails from a Commonwealth country, all good but no profit for Meg?
I think what is more significant is the secrecy surrounding the JPMorgan speech & the Stanford visit. Morgan, Stanford & Goldman are huge institutions which are very good at protecting their 'brands.' Stanford has been tarnished by the admissions scandal, Goldman is going through a big restructuring that is causing some heads to shake, JP Morgan is always on the lookout for a way to enhance it's profile, & has had it's own scandals & missteps.
What I'm trying to say is, if any of these institutions thought that the Harkles enhanced their public image in any way, they would have shouted about the Harkle connection from the rooftops. As it was, they seemed to sneak them in & out of back entrances, at least figuratively, if not literally. We know Megs would prefer a big publicity splash no matter how much it annoyed the RF. Look at her 'shower.' She didn't get it. JPMorgan, & Stanford, & probably Goldman , don't find the Harkles to be of any use to them.
If the Harkles need money, it could easily be explained by all the money they must be hemorrhaging to pay for their ridiculous pr stories.
Whether these stories are true or not (seems ham-fisted, but we've seen them be clumsy before) it sure tells you what people think of the pair.
Dirty, disloyal, blackmailing weasels.
@Lavender toast
I love those bananas!
And yes, I remember the "tell all" threat. Despicable!
Especially if someone had done this while she was part of the RF. And she brazenly offered influence with them.
I'll bet she is blatant as hell.
And that would be a Kraken well worth releasing!
Very astute assessment of the situation. Thank you.
So I am a super super long time lurker! I always read along in downtime in work, however my work computer blocks me from posting comments, hence why I am only popping up now.
I have been fascinated watching the Meg and Harry drama unfold, and think that she is truly a manipulative piece of work- far cry from when I watched the wedding with all my UK expat friends in NYC and was delighted by the story!
I have also loved how the Nutty blog has become, in sorts, a support group for those who have suffered from relationships with narcissistic people. I am only just recovering from a long relationship with a narc, which left me on antidepressants, in therapy, and in a very very bad way. You discussions of narc behaviors make me realize that I am not alone, and for that I am grateful.
However, I am having a terrible weekend (don’t feel sorry for me, life has been pretty darned good for the past six months! Just one of those weeks) and was just walking home from the gym, bubbling with upset, when a thought came for me and (bizarrely!) a tiny bit of sympathy for Meghan. And I mean TINY.
So, I hope I don’t bore you guys too much I’ll try to keep this background as quick as possible. I am 28 and am an expat working for a UK company in NYC. As part of my expat package, I am given free corporate accommodation, but this is shared. I’ve lived in my apartment for over three years, and got a new housemate about five months ago.
The majority of people I know would say that I am a lovely, relaxed, chilled out person. However this housemate would have very different things to say. I go mad at her for habits such as pulling lights out by the plug instead of the button, leaving the ironing board out etc. She’s very stubborn and flat out refuses to cooperate instead of just being ditzy. And this makes me UNBEARABLY pent up upset.
In an ideal situation where I had control of housemates and where I live, what would I do? Move of course! But given that I have a great job, lovely boyfriend etc, the cost/detriment is skewed towards having to put up with her.
Meghan, ok on a totally different scale, was an idiot and expected to become this lucrative Beyonce level Alister, and didn’t like the reality. You guys have discussed this is wonderful depth. Again, she made a mess of it and has conducted herself in an appalling manner, but if you have the resources to leave a situation where you feel unhappy… would you do it?
I don’t really want to defend her, I think how she has behaved in appalling. She is dodgy on so many levels, manipulative and has made a farcical soap opera out of the Royal institution. But, even though she was misguided entering into it, I have to wonder if I was on the receiving end of all that critique, I would probably bolt as well.
My underlying thought process is that we all like to be in control of things that matter to us, and her woeful character means that what is important to her is being worshipped.
Wow this is a ramble! But I felt like a lightening bolt hit me this morning and I had to share.
https://youtu.be/hARst5K5A4w
I’m guessing MM called in a favor with Ellen to help Jessica get this gig.
I have seen old videos of Mulroney where her speech pattern was less affected. It was in her pre plastic surgery/fillers/boto days. She used to be a normal person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FORjHFBpOoQ&t=301s
Seems to be a US airline as the exit is marked in English and Spanish.
Given the name-dropping of companies that have clear ties to Oprah/Gayle or Hillary/Latham, I think HAMS are struggling to drum up interest in their charity, foundation or otherwise. The Disney Lion King donation of $3M to the "yet to be named" charity may have been a ruse to attract other big donors and it fell completely flat. Now they have unceremoniously laid off staff and put out a cringy video that only Meghan believes puts her in a positive light.
Maya Angelou's quote is appropriate here - When people show you who they are, believe them the first time - AND don't go work with them!
Some of the PAs and other staff may have been collateral damage, but I’m pretty sure Sara Latham will surface again somewhere nearby.
Also, the agency that audits magazine performance in the UK published detailed information this week on how vogue performed in the second half of 2019 (including the sept issue).
https://www.abc.org.uk/product/2214
It’s very obvious their current plan involves finding and nurturing lucrative for-profit connections (JPM, GS). Why would this trip be any different?
'Also, the agency that audits magazine performance in the UK published detailed information this week on how vogue performed in the second half of 2019 (including the sept issue).
https://www.abc.org.uk/product/2214'
One has to be a subscriber in order to access the data for the September issue.
I doubt that the Sussexes are keeping any of their staff for 3 reasons:
1. They have put together a team in the USA and Canada, with whom they have been working for months and going over their staff in BP's heads to do so. (The 'assistant' who used a Hotmail account to arrange the visits to two organisations for pap-walking Meghan were not BP staff ... that may be Meghan herself.) Note that the Sussexes do not provide office space for any of the 'new' people but employ those who already have their own offices set up.
2. I doubt that any of the 15 staff would want to relocate to Canada/the USA (office space, accommodation, visas, leaving behind friends, family, country and life). The Sussexes do not even have a permanent home anywhere (they have deserted Frogmore) so they certainly cannot accommodate staff with a permanent office.
3. The leaks from BP were quite clear that they have only recently been told that they are losing their jobs (remember the Sussexes wanted to be part-time royals so they probably had some ridiculous impractical idea of keeping an office and small staff in BP and had no idea how they would pay for it). If any of them were being redeployed by the Sussexes, they would have said so. None of them have.
Did they have a traitor or two on the staff who plotted with them and will soon pop up in North America? Time will tell ...
I noted that it all looks slapdash and desperate rather than thriving. We're seeing more and more the lack of a joined-up strategy. There may have BEEN a joined-up strategy but if so other people aren't playing. Their rumoured activities are disparate. Scattered. No cumulative effect or direction.
By contrast look at Ashley Graham, the plus-sized (apologies for using that term) model. I used to be a fan until she lost her sense of moderation in terms of health, but I still would point to all she has achieved against remarkable odds, in the world Meghan swims in. All along she has followed a strategy she mapped out at the start, and one by one she has achieved all her milestones, going from catalogue work to running her own business, a professional, consistent social media and PR presence and lots of covers for Vogue, Tatler, Vanity Fair etc. etc.
I had stopped following her and now see that she has just had a baby and that she also did the flashy baby shower, lots of belly cupping and me-me-me. But I don't mind as she was earning her success by her own efforts. What would be unacceptably tacky in a royal is just fine for her (though I'm glad to belong to an earlier generation). I avoid celebrity culture as a rule, so my Ashley Graham catch-up has joined up the dots with Meghan, culturally speaking. Reinforced how Meghan's been living and breathing in the wrong world. She's been in the wrong box from the start, in her head. Using royal money for that wrong world because she never had the talent to earn it on her own. Ashley Graham's career has a percerptible, constant impetus. An engine. Which she powers herself. While Meghan's on a bicycle with stabilisers provided by the BRF, who've now taken them away and gone home for tea.
Anyways - The current state of the Dumped Dumbarton Duo is cash poor and freeloading to the max. Cash poor as far as the schemes she has in mind. What happened to their Sussex Royal Foundation that wuz gonna help Save The Planet? It must be suffering from a lack of fools to donate.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2909#post-54846647
Remember also that Meghan's Vogue issue was marked down, so I wonder how much that impacted the bottom line. It was a vanity project, enthusiastically supported by EE.
Meghan has been trying so hard to establish herself as a global style icon, global humanitarian, smartest woman in the world, wokest champion of women's rights and nothing has really stuck, because it takes a lifetime of humble dedication, real collaboration and hard work to be effective and do meaningful work, otherwise you are just the influencer of the month competing with all the others out there ... always hustling.
Your link to Vogue mag: if you click on the link towards the top of the page “(View Full Certificate”) Vogue is reporting circulation for each month during the reporting period, July through Dec 2019:
ACTIVELY PURCHASED BY ISSUE
August 2019 -– 131,835
September 2019 — 220,913
October 2019 -– 121,114
November 2019 —152,978
December 2019 — 119,448
January 2020 — 168,851 74
I’m assuming July purchases are calculated in August. So, if I’m correct, the September issue was the largest. (Doesn’t consider Vogue was marked way down at point of sale.)
More data that I’m not discussing is also there.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Meghan++markle+Vogue&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1
Two good tarot readers are quite aligned in their predictions for the separation/divorce timeline (this year):
First hint of rumours that there is trouble in paradise and the 'happy marriage' story has been a smokescreen: by end of February through March
Major signs that there is trouble in the marriage: April, May, June
Filing for divorce: summer to late autumn (Meghan will file to get ahead of things .. she wants to be the victim to get a better settlement)
Official announcement: winter
I agree with the predicted process but have found that predictions re. time are not reliable, especially when predicted far ahead (as the above were done) because little things can change that timeline. One of my analogies for tarot readings is to compare them with a detailed up-to-date map of a wilderness hike (I created a reading based on that concept): you can see the path, the surroundings, all the obstacles and the overnight hut that is the end point for the day, and have a very accurate time to work with, but what if someone trips and sprains an ankle, and so on ...
Plenty more drama to come in this soap opera ... and things will just get juicier after the divorce and Meghan has no one holding her back from pap walks and putting herself out there in every way.
Guess what I saw standing in the check out at Walgreens? HAMS on front of In Touch Mag with a big caption that I could see 12 ft away which read, "Desperate for Cash"!
They had frowns in their cover pic, lol.
Wth is going on? Seems their PR team is floating the cash cow theme, but the media isn't buying the story?
What I want to see are the sales numbers for the other 9 Septembers in the last decade since the claim is M's was the "biggest seller of the decade." I don't see any way to get those data from the posted site without paying for a very pricey subscription. But according to the post on LSA cited by @Sandie, the 2016 Sept issue hit 230K (which is higher than M's issue.) And, of course, there are rumors the issue price of M's issue had to be cut.
Thanks for posting!
You bring up an interesting question--if you could leave a situation that makes you unhappy, would you?
I do think your question is radically different for mere mortals versus the BRF.
MM knew exactly what she was getting into when she was dating Harry and when she married him. A 1000-year old institution is more staid that...than I don't know what, but if she thought she could waltz in and change the reality, she's incredibly stupid. MM is many things (conniving, smarmy, and a social climber among them), but stupid she isn't.
Here's the big "if" for me--**IF** she married Harry and actually loved the guy, wouldn't she put up with some negative aspects of his world simply to be with the man she loves? I guess a narcissist wouldn't, no. (I'm answering my own question as I sort this through for myself.)
Because it isn't just her life that she has upended. The man she supposedly loves has left everything to make her happy. Poor sod will realize soon enough that NOTHING will make her happy, because she will always want more.
If I could leave, would I?
Yes, I would. I planned for two years to leave my corporate job when I realized how unhappy I was. But I had sunk 14 years into an increasingly stressful life. I was incredibly fortunate that I was in a position to save money and then walk away to attend graduate school and create a completely new professional life for myself.
Are MM's internal resources (strength, resilience, reliance on her life partner, her husband) so non-existent that she needed to bail less than 2 years in? FFS she had a long maternity leave, back for a few months, then a 6-week break, then announced they were leaving the BRF. In other words, for most of 2019 she did eff all. Which means she realized she was miserable most likely the first year.
I don't have any sympathy for her. She has no awareness of a "long game". If she'd stuck it out, she could have made a significant positive impact in the world. One day she would have been sister-in-law to the King, daughter-in-law to the King before that. She would have had a massive world wide platform to make whatever positive changes she wanted to. But she threw it all away because it appears she wanted to be recognized as the Second Coming NOW, without putting in the time or doing any of the hard work to build a strong, sustainable platform that is created over a lifetime of work.
I have utter contempt for her. Harry, poor dumb sod, will come to his senses at some point and he'll have to swallow his pride and admit he was taken in by a narcissistic con. It won't be fun, but his family will welcome him back (but won't trust him ever again).
It had received extra attention because she was a newest full member of the royal family then and was expected to do well as a working royal. Plus according to Alexandra Shulman, the former editor, September is always the most popular month for fashion. It even outsold the centenary summer issue in 2016.
What bothers me about the whole MegaVogue disaster is her bad taste and Harry's irresponsible behavior really damaged the monarchy like noting else. Kate and Wills are doing all they can but I see the facade crumbling. Add Andrew to the equation and royals have a huge survival issue.
Do you think monarchy handled the Harkles crisis well? In my view the Queen was absolutely toothless. Why respect something that can't protect itself many people ask.
When Fayed was spreading rumors and throwing mud to deflect attention from himself after Diana's death he had been dealt with. No visa, no British citizenship, in the end sold Harrods. Became persona non-grata. Done and gone.
Charles and Queen's soft spot for Harry already began ruining the crown. With every stupid act this process will go further and deeper. He is still fully associated member and is sinking it.
Just saw about Caroline Flack. Very very sad news.
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/g21997304/caroline-flack-relationship-timeline/
X Factor host Caroline Flack has told how she was once 'Prince Harry's bit of rough', revealing for the first time that she dated the royal before her romance with One Direction star Harry Styles.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3268184/I-Prince-Harry-s-bit-rough-X-Factor-star-Caroline-Flack-reveals-dated-royal-One-Direction-star-Harry-Styles-cougar.html
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/190845530194/for-harry-and-meghan-the-fairy-tale-is-over-and#notes
It is scathing ...
Yesterday at a press conference in Munich, Prime Minister @JustinTrudeau confirmed Canadian taxpayers are paying for Prince Harry & Meghan Markle's security. As a reminder the Royal Grifters just collected $750,000 for a speech at a @jpMorgan function in Miami on Feb 6th
#Megxit
https://twitter.com/inklessPW/status/1228758430707601408
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8007997/Megan-Harry-pictured-time-MEGXIT-stepping-plane-Canada.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR2rYjF7iY3ygWJS_7f8PbUyCIUM6ed3GENQEOlZjJ0VVBXBq5VVJc4DENE
"@magartha and @tatty there is zero mention in oz about Zika. Happy to be corrected from a comment with a source."
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Regarding the Zika issue:
When the Harkles toured four countries in Oceania in the fall of 2018, the destinations mentioned as being a Zika risk were Tonga and Fiji.
As most of us remember, she went to those Zika zones without any apparent fear despite being supposedly pregnant. This fact has always been regarded as one of the "clues" to a possible surrogacy.
Just wanted to make sure this "clue" was not invalidated by any of Tatty's posts claiming there was no Zika.
Linked below are two of many many articles that were written at the time. The first story has many comments questioning the reality of her pregnancy! The second article mentions special measures you can take with what clothing you wear, but I don't recall MM following the guidelines!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277535/Meghan-Markle-pregnant-Royal-visit-Tonga-Fiji-royal-tour-despite-Zika-fears.html
https://www.newsweek.com/how-pregnant-meghan-markle-avoiding-zika-fiji-1186116
Also here is the info Magatha found:
Magatha Mistie said...
According to WHO, World Health Organisation March 2018 Zika classifications
Tonga is listed as category 1 : Area with new introduction or re-introduction with ongoing transmission.
So when they visited October 2018 Zika was present.
"",,,,what Harry and Meghan are doing is a grandiose form of sofa-surfing. They've been sofa-surfing for months now, hanging out in a house someone else is providing, that can be taken back at any minute. What a comedown.""
I have to say that is a big comedown! I have been essentially of modest means most of my life but have continuosly owned homes for the last 40+ years. Only once did I have to take an upscale apartment for a year because I was between buying acceptable homes. Let me tell you I could barely stand it. I don't know how on earth, HAMS can play if off they are living their 'best life' by effing living as couch surfers. I wouldn't have been caught dead sofa surfing no matter how modest of means I was. So the dastardly duo are,,,'Sussex Sofa Surfers'...a new claim to fame! LOL
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Because of Megexit and PH’s disgraceful abandonment of duties, he left open the Captain General of the Royal Marines position for the hardworking Princess Anne to fill and she’s the first female to do so!
The Harkles can share that success story on their next speech / interview tour! It’s better than profiting off the death of Diana.
I guess that she is not familiar with the expression"Dress fir the size you are, not the size that you wish you were"
I wonder who was looking after Archie. Seems like a long time to leave him alone. Many mothers would bring the child and nanny along, but I guess that she didn't want to be disturbed.
Using one of the dozens of bags that she already has!
Looks like a Prada product placement. I see that the items are not on Meghan's Mirror. That's a first. Now that she is out of the RF she doesn't need to hide behind Meghan's Mirror and can merch directly.
It seems pretty obvious that Markle or her PR gave DM the details. She is suing them, but still posing for photos and merching through them. She is such a money whore.
Frankly I have never seen her in anything that makes me think she has one iota of style. She is just very average, and barely even pulls average off, given the dirty shoes and torn stockings.