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Are Meghan and Harry really in Canada?

With the world convulsed by coronavirus - see our sister blog on the topic - many people are rushing to return to their countries of origin or citizenship.

So much for the "global citizens" that Meghan and Harry once hoped Archie would grow up to be.

Meghan and Harry, however, are supposedly holed up in a secluded mansion in Canada, a country where neither one of them are citizens or have any special rights at all.

Or are they?

Latex gloves

Corona virus can affect anyone; in fact, Prince Albert of Monaco recently disclosed that he had the virus.

Far from home, who would care for Meghan or Harry should they become ill?  The two of them are in a risky area, near Vancouver.

Harry is in an age group that has been severely affected by the virus, and has been seen in the company of several people who have fallen ill.

Even if the Sussexes were isolated within a mansion on Vancouver Island, they would still be exposed to staff, who would be exposed to family and friends who would be exposed to others. (Meghan's idiotic statement that she was making her staff wear latex gloves does not inspire confidence.)

That is, if they really are on Vancouver Island.

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This week, Prince Harry released a video announcing the cancellation of the Invictus Games.

It was posed in front of a blank wall and what appeared to be a walnut door - which could have been anywhere.

If you lived in a gorgeous and no doubt lavishly furnished mansion amid beautiful natural surroundings, would you video yourself for international distribution standing against a blank white wall?

Staff seems to have quit 

Meanwhile, Meghan's recent posts to @SussexRoyal could have been sent from anywhere with an Internet connection and a copy of Adobe Photoshop.

Her staff seems to have quit; no professional public relations person would have considered the ridiculous aqua square that was posted on Friday, or suggest that someone could "digitally train to be a counselor" if they were "home and feeling bored."

Oddly for what is supposedly a new mother with a 10-month-old, there is no mention of the difficulties of raising an energetic baby in isolation during an international health crisis.


Where are they?

If the Sussexes are not in Canada in an isolated mansion, where are they?

My best guess is that they are not together: that Harry is in the UK, and that Meghan is in California. (The notorious troll @TorontoPaper alluded to Meg being in the US, as well.)

Archie, if he exists, is probably not with either of them.

What do you think?




Comments

CatEyes said…
@Nutty

I am quite surprised. Why do you think they would be split up now? And do you think Harry stayed in the UK without going back to Canada as was alleged. I sure hope they are not together, then it would probably mean a divorce (I hope). Their sh*t show can't end soon enough for me!
Nutty Flavor said…
Just to respond to a comment on the previous post, which suggested that Meg and Harry are trying to wriggle their way back into the Royal Family.

This seems likely, since it appears they are nearly broke and their career plans haven't turned out the way they hoped.

That said, they've created a lot of enemies in the family: certainly Camilla, probably Kate, and to a large extent William, who is known to hold a grudge.

Plus Andrew has always hated Meghan, and he is known to have the Queen's ear.

In addition, the departure of the Sussexes has meant a big boost for Andrew's daughter Beatrice. Lots of press going around that Beatrice could be elevated to be a "counsellor of state", since the current counsellors are the Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Duke of Sussex and the Duke of York.

Two have become nonworking members of the Royal Family, two are over 70, and William.

Bea is getting a lot of press because of the continual postponement of her wedding, and Edo (or someone doing social media for Edo) has started to create a public profile for himself as well.

They are definitely a couple to watch.

William needs backup, and it must be hard to trust Harry.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Thank you for the new post Nutty.

Do you think royal family is implementing "save Harry" operation? And he is in UK away from her? Shame, because this suggests they intend to impose him on us again then.

We have seen some pics that he flew to Canada after the last royal engagements. My guess he is in Canada probably, just not in the Russian mansion. They are most likely hiding somewhere after the disaster prank.

I am so disappointed there is no part 2 despite promises from the pranksters. Somebody is sitting on it.
Nutty Flavor said…
My prediction: a "wartime wedding" for Beatrice at a time when things have calmed down a bit, but not too much, as part a publicity campaign to create a more favorable public perception of her.

Perhaps Edward Lane Fox could be called upon to create a persona for Bea, the way he once created "Hero Harry."
Nutty Flavor said…
@Fairy Crocodile, I think they may be implementing a "save Harry from himself" operation, but not a "save Harry for Royal duty" operation. He's too damaged and they know it.

He'll always be part of the family, but he won't be part of the Royal Family for a long time, if ever.

The prankster piece is probably being set aside until the Zombie Apocalypse cools down a bit in Britain. Whomever controls it (probably Murdoch) rightly assumes it wouldn't get much attention now.
Unknown said…
@Nutty Great new post! H&M being in Canada never sat well with me.

At the end of the day, Harry is blood and I think him still being in the U.K. makes a lot of sense logistically. If Archie is anywhere, I think he is in the U.K. too for similar reasons. Although, Archie being a figment of our imagination is getting easier for me to believe by the day. Meg in California, that makes sense too.

The Sussex family dynamic is just so odd. In comparison, the Cambridges seem like a wholesome family sitcom. They had that look when they only had George.
Unknown said…
@Nutty I agree with you about Bea-Edo. I think all this PR is going to morph into their wedding being a welcome reprieve for the public from all this chaos. Isn’t escapism for the public the currency modern-day Royal Weddings run on?
It sounded as if the video was recorded in an empty room too large for a broom cupboard, no curtains, carpet or furniture to muffle the echo.

I agree the woodwork could be walnut, English or American walnut? I'll look into it!
MustySyphone said…
Nothing would surprise me any more. Haven't seen a living breathing Archie (if the baby exists, it the baby is a he, and if the baby is really named "Archie") video since TuTu. Thought for sure they'd show him during their last visit/duties to the Royal family. What better way to signal they still have access to sell than all the photos Archie with Charles would have generated. Something isn't right, just really isn't right.
Unknown said…
@Nutty @Fairy Crocodile The only way I see Harry coming back into the Royal fold is if he drops Meghan cold turkey. As long as they are married, he looks like trash. He could give the look of a metamorphosis and redemption with a Meghan exodus and marrying a second time to a woman who wants to be royal but has no problem playing nice and second-fiddle to Kate. He should be aiming for someone like Sophie if he wants to get back in the good graces of his family. Otherwise, he is damaged goods and reeks of pathetic desperation.
none said…
@Nutty

Appreciate the new post and agree with all.

"He'll always be part of the family, but he won't be part of the Royal Family for a long time, if ever."

Yes, very true. I can't remember where I read this but the author said Markel "ruined his royalness". I hope she didn't ruin the BRF's royalness as well.
Louise said…
As someone else mentioned, I recall seeing a Tweet from someone who was in the same airplane as Harry on the last leg of the London-Victoria flights.

I don't know where MM is, but I believe that Harry is in Canada. If MM is there, she might have banished him for 2 weeks to a suite in the house because of his known contacts with Covid infected individuals.

Harry seems to have used the same blank wall for his earlier Santa Claus video.

Where else would Markle be? She doesn't have a home anywhere else.
Louise said…
Holly said:
"I can't remember where I read this but the author said Markel "ruined his royalness". I hope she didn't ruin the BRF's royalness as well."

It's been ruined for me. I used to love watching anything royal related on TV, Netflix and You Tube.

But now, even stuck at home, I am tired of the lot of them. Watching reruns of Judge Mathis instead.
Jdubya said…

The owner of the mansion may have said they cannot show any photo's of the inside of the house.
Henrietta said…
I think they're still in Canada; but, as a Canadian poster keeps mentioning on the DM comment boards, their 180-day (?) tourist visas are going to run out in April or May. That's going to be the fork in the road.

I still think MM lost her British visa and will only be able to return to the U.S. because of CV restrictions. I'm not sure, because of those restrictions, if PH will be able to come with her. That's the big thing. Ordinarily it wouldn't be hard for him to pull some strings and get a visa fairly quickly because of his family connections and being the spouse of an American citizen. But because of the restrictions, that might be a problem now.

A bigger question might be what happens if PH comes down with the virus. He won't be able to travel (his deportation will probably be waived on compassionate grounds), but how will it affect his relationships with MM and his family? If for some reason Harry gets really sick, something might change inside him.
abbyh said…

Archie not with her? believable as, you pointed out, she isn't talking about what it is like to be taking care of a baby increasing in mobility.

Not that she ever really did but the more we don't hear or see, the more less and less real he appears to be (especially when the only comparison is with the polo/park walk unrealistic baby). This is parallel to the visuals of how she holds him when we do get to see him.

So I got around to watching some of the video and he has that what I call vegan gauntness in the face. He blinks a lot. I watch things like this without sound so I am not distracted by the talking (but I don't know how his phrasing is in it compared to past in terms of tone or cadence).

The room: he isn't centered against the wall so the door offsides comes as not well composed*. You can do a I'm off to the side but you have something visually compelling to compensate ... which leads back to is he really at the big fancy Canadian home.

Do you think that the white on the left edge is a window? If so, how odd that it is not the same width at the top than bottom. Windows are parallel (or should be) to doors so ... and yet there is a distinct tilt the other direction with the wood what it is. Does not make sense to me. At all.

* I took a photography class and we had to be careful about not taking a picture where a telephone pole appeared to be growing out of someone's head.

Louise said…
Henrietta: I don't know the US rules, but in Canada a non Citizen or non resident can still enter Canada if they are a close relation of a Canadian citizen or resident.

Could Harry enter the US by virtue of being a close relative of Markle ?

I don't know why they would want to return to the US as it is not safer there than in Canada.
Louise said…
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1016&top=16

"At the port of entry, the border services officer may allow you to stay for less or more than 6 months. If so, they’ll put the date you need to leave by in your passport."

Trudeau may already have arranged for them to be allowed to stay in Canada longer than 6 months. He knew back in November or December that this was to be a permanent move.

However, if he didn't already do this:

"If you want to stay longer than your authorized stay, you should apply for an extension at least 30 days before the authorized end of your stay."

They will not be refused, especially during the Corona outbreak. It's nice when the Prime Minister also happens to be your friend.
SwampWoman said…
That "shelter in place" order must be extremely inconvenient for MM. I don't envision her with the foresight to have acquired a few week's worth of daily essentials for the family plus protection.
Louise said…
SwampWoman: All those things can be ordered online.
Genia said…
Regarding the Sussexes having buyer’s remorse and are now wrangling a way to come back to the RF, I think it’s happening but more with Harry and less so with Meghan. However, both will not admit to this because it’ll make them even more of a laughing stock. Announce they want out in January then come crawling back 3 months later. No way the RF would want them back as working members when it’s even a stretch that they would welcome them back as family members. They’ve burned too many bridges and done it so egregiously too that it would be a long time and lots of genuine remorse on their part before they would be back in the fold as family members. Harry and Meghan would have to admit to and apologize for wrongdoings to everyone, especially William and Kate. It would be in writing in case later they turn around and say they were coerced into apologizing, because you know Meghan is volatile and always plotting something for her own gain.

Volatility is the key word here. The RF have learned their lessons and they will not allow the Sussexes back as working members quite so easily. Meghan and Harry have demonstrated to the RF and the world that they are highly changeable and volatile people. If the wind blows favorably to their branding once again then they’ll be itching to strike it rich on their own once more. Who knows what sorts of excuses and lies they would employ the next time. The RF would be dunces to let them weasel their way back as full time royals. The backlash the RF would be facing if that happened is not something to be desired.

Regarding Harry coming to his senses and now considering a quick divorce and return to normalcy back in the UK with his family, it’s not as easy as that because this is Meghan he’s dealing with. Even with a divorce Harry and Meghan are irretrievably linked for rest of their lives due to this debacle and more importantly because they have a child together. You can bet that in the event of a divorce Meghan will not go quietly into the night. No, she will try to extract all that she can get out of Harry and the RF using every tactic in the narcissist handbook. This is why you don’t marry and have a child with such a lunatic and awful person in the first place. But now Harry is stuck with Meghan at least for the next 17-18 years until Archie is officially an adult, and even that is a best case scenario. Let’s just hope Meghan doesn’t raise Archie to become a toxic narcissist like herself because these traits do run in families, part genetics and part upbringing. Harry has Diana’s worst characteristics: emotionally unbalanced, dumb, impulsive, love of fame and adulation, manipulative, and cold willingness to dump friends.
JHanoi said…
JH and MM may have trouble if they want to come to the US. didn’t trump just close the border with Canada excpt for commercial traffic to keep reduce the CV19 spread?

i do think JH is in Canada because the video environment was similar to the disasterous Santa video.

i also think Bea and/ or Eugenie will step up to help out the Cambridges at this time, even though they already have jobs and aren’t technically working royals. don’t know how that would work if the Harkles got he boot for wanting to be ‘part-time’ working royals.
i’m a little surprised the essexes haven’t been out and about more.

i think JH may be feeling massive guilt for leaving his family now that this crisis has happened but agree, wills carries a grudge and won’t want his help unless MM is out of the picture and even then, it will take time to for wills to get over the massive JH betrayal. so i think JH will get super depressed.



Vince said…
Coronavirus is exposing and shrinking the Harkles.

Meg's childish, vapid Instagram posts on the subject are an embarrassment. Would-be benefactors can see that the Harkles are bringing nothing to the table if you subsidize them. No access to royals (from former royals), and a duo that will bring shame to anyone and any topic they touch.

As the Harkles are MIA, the Cambridges and others in the BRF are coming through to help provide comfort and reassurance to those in the UK. Meg is reduced to taking subtle shots at Trump about needing "truth" now, but no one cares about her vague, divisive claptrap.

The coronavirus is revealing all. And it is stalling the would-be momentum from Megxit, as well.

As this point, the Harkles are essentially social media influencers. And that's it. How the mighty have fallen.
Emily said…
There are reports that they are no longer living in the Vancouver island house. All the over the top security has gone. It was reported as well that the owner wanted them out.
CookieShark said…
The ridiculous Sussex IG suggesting people become counselors "digitally" because they are "bored" at home shows how out of touch they are, if there were any doubt. They go as far to say that people may be quarantined with their abusers (!!!)

Where does this negativity come from? She has played the victim ever since we met her. Poor Harry must be exhausted. I don't believe she's just paranoid, I think she's truly manipulative. And I believe her pathology is on display here. Perhaps she experiences such self-loathing, that she thinks everyone else out there must as well. And this is why she is so incensed at the idea of demonstrating dignity and resilience during chaotic times, as HMTQ does. I think she loves chaos.

Who in their right mind is using this time to earn a degree online??? Most of us are struggling to cook healthy meals for our kids everyday with limited resources. Some of us are still working to protect the critically ill. I'd love for them to stop going on about their security costs and donate it instead for ventilators and hospital supplies.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Genia

You point that mental problems often run in families. Given the dysfunctional Megsy's family and mental problems on Harry's side as well as possible and even probable drug use by both I am sorry to say I can see problems with Archie, either mental or even physical. I am hoping I am wrong here, but we all find persistent hiding of the kid from the public is strange to say the least.
Henrietta said…
Emily, do you have any links for the Markles having moved?
Rainy Day said…
@Nutty, Just a quick note on geography. Vancouver is the largest city in British Columbia, and it is on the mainland. Victoria is the provincial capital city, and it is on Vancouver Island. H&M were/are staying in a suburb of Victoria. There is no Victoria Island.

Wherever they are, they’re stuck and irrelevant.
Anonymous said…
I have heard strange rumors that Weinstein spilled a bunch of secrets in a bid to soften his sentence (he still must sit trial in another similar case in Los Angeles). This would make sense to me except that he was given nearly the maximum sentence possible even BEFORE the trial in L.A. But if you consider that he still has to sit for a another trial L.A., he might have been scared straight into talking to the L.A. District Attorney is a bid to have that trial dismissed while he works on his appeals on his recent case. Rykers, where he will serve out his sentence, is one of the most brutal prisons in the U.S. This is not joke. No wonder he’s in hospital for chest pain. Also, given what he knows, the possibly of another jail “suicide” is not far-fetched.

This is a roundabout way of saying that Weinstein might be blabbing about Epstein and his “parties.” I think there is a reason why Andrew just hired an attorney who is considered the top extradition expert in the U.K. All of these people partied with Weinstein and, ergo, it’s not difficult to assume that they also partied with Epstein. Orpah, King, Ellen, etc. The N.Y. District Attorney is starting to apply the screws. If I were Markle, I’d be terrified. She might be coerced in talking to the N.Y. D.A. In a bid to get to Andrew. Lean on the small fish to get to the bigger fish. No wonder Andrew hates Markle! I think it obvious that if she were a yacht girl, then they would know each other. Every other picture I see of Andrew is of him on a yacht! That might be another reason for Bea and Edo to keep their nuptials on the down low. What a PR disaster if you had Andrew mugging for the cameras as he’s wearing full morning attire to celebrate the gigantic wedding of his daughter. The optics are horrible if the N.Y. D.A. Starts to leak information.
Nutty Flavor said…
Sorry about that, @RainyDay. That's how you know I am an American - I'm terrible with Canadian geography!

I'll fix it in the original text.
Nutty Flavor said…
@wizardwench, Rikers Island is a jail, not a prison - only for pretrial defendants and very short sentences.

Harvey Weinstein has been sent upstate to a prison designed for longer sentences.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/harvey-weinstein-new-york-state-prison-maximum-security

Agree with you about Andrew, though. Yet another reason for Bea and Edo to get married in a super-minimal ceremony, and release just a few photos afterwards, only one of which includes Andrew. The rest can be photos of the couple, photo of the couple with Wolfie, photo of couple with Eugenie and Jack, etc.

BTW, where are Eugenie and Jack? Eugenie has certainly been out of the media lately, except for expressing "concern" about Bea.
Louise said…
Jhanoi: The US border is not closed to American citizens. If the US rules are like those of Canada, a close family member of a US citizen would also be allowed to enter the US.
JHanoi said…
I think Beatrice as a ‘war time’ bride is the right tactic to take.

The picture of the andrew, sarah, the girls dressed up in 18th century finery at one of the girls b-day parties (that epstein attended ) was so marie antoinette looking that it made the family look out of touch, i expected the peasants to jump out of the bushes with pitchforks.

Bea helping out on the front lines ( and not coming in contact with gran for 3 weeks) could really help her and the BRF image
Humor Me said…
"If you are at home and feeling bored, you can digitally train and become a counselor and HELP someone who really needs your support! what a amazing way to use your time!"

I am in hopes that this one comment, and the tsunami of negative comments that followed, are the literal undoing of all things Sussex.
She/ He/ they dramatically showed their ignorance of the mental health community in total, and made it about making the doer feel good.
I can see the daily checklist now:
9 am - one hour email counseling, 10 am - buy potatoes for the needy, 11 am - sort through Archie's out grown clothes, 12 noon - send Harry out for food ; I am famished from all this work, 1 pm - yoga (Must re-center self) 2pm write letters of encouragement to our former staff: keep calm and carry on; 3pm - send Harry out for ink and paper, as the stock is low, while searching the interent for the latest cause du jor. 4pm - thaw the chicken for dinner and do nails. 5pm - cook dinner, send RPO for avocados for tomorrow's breakfast; 6pm - dine. 7pm - Go to meeting with team (i don' t care if it is 11 pm or 3 am their time - this is important!). 8pm - strategize with H how we can develop the C-19 vaccine with our refrigerator; 10 pm - yoga, for I must relax to sleep.

It is all about her!! Hopefully, the world at large is closing doors and not answering the phone, and sending emails to spam.
I do believe they are in Canada, and I don’t think they are trying to get back into the RF, but I do think they, especially Meghan, might be panicking a bit. In 10 days they are no longer royal, the Canadian govt protection stops. There had been talk that a Netflix deal was imminent but while streaming channels may be able to keep themselves going for awhile with their vast digital archives and a lot of bored people stuck at home, Hollywood is basically shut down to all new production for the foreseeable future and it’s hard to imagine during a time of huge economic uncertainty, that anyone would think it a good idea economically or public relations-wise to announce a production deal worth millions and millions of dollars to one couple, especially one that a Disney exec recently admitted was “controversial”. So too with the world economy hurtling towards recession (if not outright depression) and no one able to gather in groups larger than ten anyway, their high dollar speaking engagements have likely evaporated as well. They are about to be broke, if they are not already, their only remaining revenue stream being Charles’ generosity, which seems an iffy prospect when it wasn’t even two weeks’ ago Meghan reportedly pissed off his wife with her PR shenanigans while in the U.K. certainly their Instagram posts seem to indicate they are cut off from everything, when they panic-post either a meaningless array of words to try to beat William to the punch taking about COVID-19 or try to head off the positive PR of Will and Kate going to a hospital by posting about how amateur counseling is a great cure for boredom (this alone makes me think they don’t have any money to pay anyone with any sense). And of course people noticed that the queen’s message was posted exactly the same on all royal accounts, except theirs. I think it will be interesting to see what two desperate, somewhat dim people stuck alone in a house in Canada come up with to try and keep themselves relevant. At least they know Charles won’t let them starve.
Louise said…
I believe that because of the Covid-19 crisis that Trudeau will be tempted to extend their protection. His head would roll if Canadians who are losing employment right and left heard about it but due to Covid, no one will be noticing if they still get RCMP security.

You read it here first.
SwampWoman said…
Louise said: SwampWoman: All those things can be ordered online.

Yes, they can be. IF the items are available and IF there are delivery capabilities available.
Henrietta said…
Louise said,

"Trudeau may already have arranged for them to be allowed to stay in Canada longer than 6 months. He knew back in November or December that this was to be a permanent move."

It's one thing to have your visa extended because you're sick or you need to care for a minor child. But if you have no basis to apply for citzenship -- and my understanding is that neither MM nor Harry have such a basis in Canada -- then I can't imagine circumstances under which Trudeau would inderinitely renew their visas. Can he get them permanent residency in Canada or citizenship? I would have thought no.* I personally can't imagine MM's friendship with Trudeau materializing into permanent residency or citizenship in Canada for her or Harry. I feel sure she's on her way home. So will Harry follow her?
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*In the U.S., Trump could offer a job to a foreign national, enabling them to get a work visa, or lobby Congress to award them citizenship, but he can't grant it outright. (It's governed by statutory law.)
YankeeDoodle said…
Please remember the Newsweek article pertaining to Just H. Newsweek had also followed Harry everywhere for a year, but nothing has been said about this “documentary.” Where is it now? Why wasn’t it televised?

The most interesting, spot-on and incredibly foreshadowing of who and what the HAMS are/would be was at their engagement interview. On Youtube, at the time (I haven’t looked to see if it is still around) there was a woman who interpreted words, and most importantly, body language of the two. I was fascinated by her scientific and non-judgemental facts. For instance, whenever M said she looked forward to being a part of the royal family, or carrying out royal duties, Just H would look down in his lap, frowning. When M mentioned the words change or trying to be like Diana, Just H smiled. All words from M about fitting in, liking her in-laws, acting like a royal, etc. was immediately seen in Just H’s face as something distasteful.

Just H is still a HRH until March 31, the taxpayers should know where the 6th in line is today. What is the secret? Secrets will come out, as a secret,by definition, is something one person knows, - two with a “secret” and it is not a secret.

Money is the root of all evil, except for those lucky enough to have it. Money and delusions of grandeur, but still being “normal” is the destruction of the HAMS. Instead of staying in Great Britain, Just H and his “wife” are hiding out. Just H cut and ran away, for money, nothing else. Where is the coward today? Where is he hiding? Who leaves a country, and hide in some billionsire’s mansion, whether in Canada or elsewhere? Money-obsessed cowards.



Calling it right now: I bet they bolt back to the BRF using the pandemic as an excuse. Their plan is failing miserably and they don't have much, if any, options.
These two are politically problematic for any leader. Any leader who lets them in or stay past their visa risks censure for preferential treatment to non-nationals in a time of crisis. If they are asked to leave or denied entry the political leader would look bad. These two (plus “Archie”) crossing borders is political dynamite for anyone, including PM Boris Johnson and the RF, given the COVID-19 pandemic.

Wherever they are, the UK government and RF really need for them to be silent and unseen up until it’s over, for the visa reasons alone.
I feel terrible for their RPO detail stuck with these two, wherever they are. They are far from their families during a time of crisis because the Harkles are selfish.
Nutty Flavor said…
Agreed, @Midwestern Meg.

At least they know Charles won’t let them starve.

Shouldn't there be at least a little money left in Harry's trust fund?
Ralph L said…
they've created a lot of enemies in the family: certainly Camilla, probably Kate

If Kate believes MM started or fed the William-affair rumors, it would explain her apparent coldness at the Commonwealth service. But I suspect they'd just already met that day.
Henrietta said…
AVerySunshinyDay said,

"Calling it right now: I bet they bolt back to the BRF using the pandemic as an excuse. Their plan is failing miserably and they don't have much, if any, options."

If Harry really gets sick, I can see this.
Nutty Flavor said…
If he gets sick, his family will take care of him, as they should.

If it's just that his business plans don't work out, that's another story.
SwishyFishy said…
I have British friends who used to live in Canada. They have friends who happen to live in the neighborhood of the Harkles on Vancouver Island. They say the house is empty. There's no one home. The Harkles have always been secretive about their home life. Frogmore was reported to be empty as well.

With regards to Harry coming home for duties, how exactly is that going to happen with borders closed? Their only option is to rent a private jet, and we all know how that will go over. I think there will be a big outcry if Harry oops up in the UK with so many sick, especially if Meghan is in tow. And what will they do with Archie? Meghan exposed herself countless times hugging everybody knowing she reportedly had a baby at "home" in "Canada". They keep banging on about Archie's safety and yet she did everything she could to expose herself, not to mention that Archie was reportedly cared for by Jessica Mulroney. For this to be true, Archie and nanny would need to be put on a plane to Toronto. Not exactly maximum safety, in my opinion.

Gawd. Don't get me started about the digital counseling thing. As a licensed professional counselor, it took me years of education, interning, post graduate training, etc. to get where I am today. That she thinks this is something everyone can do on a whim to combat boredom is so damn insulting I could scream. You can do a lot of damage to people if you don't know what you are doing. Frankly, Meghan and Harry are a menace to mental health.

At this point, the Harkles are bombing big time. Meghan needs to be the victim again. Coronavirus is handing her a great opportunity. I would not be surprised if she lies and reports she's infected to garner sympathy. She can do Instagram videos like her good buddy Idris Elba to milk it for all it's worth. She is a shameless huckster.
Henrietta said…
SwishyFishy, I'll see your rumor with another rumor (courtesy of the DM comment boards): MM's nanny is really her aunt, Saundra Johnson, and MM was in her wedding when she was little.

That would go a little way in explaining how MM is willing to leave her toddler for such long periods of time.
Hikari said…
I always thought, given anywhere in the world that they could have gone, the Harkles allegedly winding up on Vancouver Island was bizarre. Meg apparently went there once or twice before when she was married to Trevor, I think once on vacation and once on location for a Hallmark movie. So when the prospect of a holiday from the burdens if being Royal came up, along with the offer of a free vacation home… Still murky as to how a Russian oligarch would have contacted the Harkles about a free house...I could see it as a short term thing, since they were allegedly visiting Doria for Thanksgiving (don’t make me larf!) and if they had evidenced interest in the local opportunities for winter sport. As a permanent home in Canada, it makes no sense. All of Meg’s friends on the continent are thousands of miles away, Including the Prime Minister in Ottawa, and the Mulroneys in Toronto, who are supposedly watching Archie while his parents gallivant to England. That’s so droll, but I guess Toronto is on the way to Heathrow from BC. Maybe Markle tossed Archie in his little parachute out of their private jet as they flew over, and Jessica caught him? There’s enough silicone in her cushion his landing.

I don’t know where either of them is at this point, but seeing as megs PR continually Rams down our throats that they are on Vancouver Island in the Russian mansion, then I believe that to be patently false. Meg lies about everything, so why not this? This is Frogmore 2.0. Different house, same games. There was never a shred of demonstrable proof that the Harkles ever in habited Frogmore, but just a lot of planted stories about vegan nurseries and watching lawn bowls from the window...A demonstrable impossibility. Now we’re getting more airy fairy crap about meg strapping on Archie for rustic hikes two hours a day. I don’t believe a word.

What of the Nonoo house in Malibu? Could both of them have gone there before the California lockdown? Harrys video literally could’ve been from anywhere. These two exhaust me so much. Two... not 3. In my opinion, they have no baby with them now, and never have had. Just as well given the current situation.

Louise said…
SwishyFishy said.. "With regards to Harry coming home for duties, how exactly is that going to happen with borders closed?"

I don't know of any western country that has closed its border to its own citizens returning home.

Henrietta:
"It's one thing to have your visa extended because you're sick or you need to care for a minor child. But if you have no basis to apply for citzenship -- and my understanding is that neither MM nor Harry have such a basis in Canada -- then I can't imagine circumstances under which Trudeau would inderinitely renew their visas. Can he get them permanent residency in Canada or citizenship? I would have thought no.*"

Unlike the government of the USA with its checks and balances, Canada has few oversight mechanisms of the government of the day and the few oversight mechanisms that exist are controlled by the government of the day.

Trudeau has already been found guilty of ethics violations, but in Canada there are no sanctions for ethical breaches by members of government.

So, Trudeau can do whatever he wants. He has been found guilty of ethical violations twice by the ethics monitor for having applied political pressure during an ongoing criminal trial and for accepting large monetary gifts from someone who was receiving government subsidies and he was re elected. So no one will care if he involves himself in his friends' visa applications.
DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari

I agree. They don't have Archie and they could very well be in Malibu squatting in Nonoo's beach house.

Rach should just give it up. She is totally irrelevant now that she is not a Royal and considering the public health crisis. All of her big plans to becoming uber wealthy have been infected and destroyed at least temporarily by COVID-19. Ha. The destruction global domination plans could not have happened to a more deserving couple.

Don't get me started on her inane Insta posts about learning to be a mental health counselor online. Her ignorance is blatantly apparent with that post.
I would not be surprised if now that their potential for making millions is diminished that they would at least contemplate crawling back to the BRF. Her ability to suddenly "dress the part" and somewhat behave makes me suspicious that going back to the royal family is not a "Plan B."
Anonymous said…
@ nutty, I should have added while Weinstein awaits his extradition for his trial in L.A., re: Rykers.

Also, I had a thought about JH’s announcement about Invictus. Could this be yet another PR disaster for the Markles in that since JH has renounced his role in the BRF, this casual announcement is in keeping with his new non-royal status. He’s the essence of casual now. Pop open that iPad and make an announcement. “I don’t need all that fol-der-rol of the BRF. I’ll make this announcement while doing my laundry because that’s the kind of casual guy I am.” The problem with this mentality is that it makes him look like he’s given NO thought to this announcement and its impact. There is a fine line between being relatable and being laissez-faire. These two are so far out of the realm of reality that they cannot conceive of there being a difference. He didn’t need to stand in front of a magnificent fireplace to make his announcement about the delay, but to make it look like he’s shoving this announcement in between wash cycles is just plain insulting. This has all the hallmarks of of Markle’s abysmal PR skills. I can’t imagine that Harry so much as sneezes without her permission.
Nutty Flavor said…
“Between wash cycles.” Ha ha ha!
Royalfan said…
Lol ... the line of the day!
Genia said…
I think Vancouver mansion was a good choice in their minds at the time because it's free and it afforded them to conveniently travel back and forth to LA. In terms of practicality perhaps it allowed their RPOs to easily settle and perform their jobs as opposed to being in the US. The pandemic put a big wrench into all their plans and this was coming quickly on the heels of the Queen effectively shutting down Sussex Foundation. SF was the star vehicle from which they were planning to base their shyster business dealings. Basically the Sussexes suffered two huge financial losses in the SF and now all the moneymaking schemes are shut down indefinitely.

Who in their right minds including JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs are going to shell out major $$$$ to these inconsequential nonentities in the next 12 months or so? The marketplace for lucrative engagements will be obscene and gross to the average person, and the last thing any company wants to do now and in the near future is to piss off the public with let-them-eat-cake level of eco-social tone deafness. Also, no one wants to hear rich scroungers telling people to travel less for the sake of the environment, in fact people would be encouraged to travel more. Airline and hotel industries are likely to go bankrupt or severely impacted financially. People who work in non-essential service industries will be in dire straits. There will be an increase in societal problems such as crimes, spousal and child abuse, homelessness, and food insecurity. It is no time for corporations to pay big bucks to narcissistic ex-royals harping on about long-deceased mother and fake accusations of racism.

If Harry was having second thoughts before, then now he must really be anxious. This is a time that you'd want to spend with loved ones or at least be in close contact with them. No secluded halfway around the world with a controlling grifter you'd met and married and had a child with all under the span of the past 4 years. But Harry has aided her all along so zero, nada sympathies from me as he is as much to blame as she is.
xxxxx said…
I don't see the Direly Departed Dumbarton's slinking back in defeat to the Royal Family. Why be begging for forgiveness, when their finances look OK to me?

1) They are experienced and adept moochers.
2) Harry is still getting more than 2 million pounds, tax free, from Charles annually. (via Duchy of Cornwall)
3) Meghan does not like being around Royal Family members because she thinks they can see right through her.
4) Harry has lead the Royal life for years. He wanted out and he will stay out. And back to #2, Harry gets two million in FU money each year, so he can afford to be independent and living in Canada or wherever with wife and baby.
Portcitygirl said…
@Swampwoman

We are having difficulty with any online ordering and curbside forcing us and everyone else to make grocery store runs periodically.

My guess is the Harkles don't have this problem.
JHanoi said…
Im not a computer expert ( and neither if JH), but in photographs there is often metadata that people don’t realize and it often indicates where the picture was taken. Wonder if Video has the same kind of metadata and it embedded i the video someplace
SwampWoman said…
Louise said I don't know of any western country that has closed its border to its own citizens returning home.

It isn't like the pandemic wasn't known in advance. Lots of people decided to go on travel adventure vacations into countries that have now closed their borders and no air traffic so they're trapped and calling on the state department for help. Sorry, they are responsible for their own situation.
Platypus said…
Hi everyone. Hoping and praying for everyone’s health in this scary time. My company sent me to work from home starting on Wednesday until whenever due to their fears over my bilateral pulmonary embolisms. I see that there is a new Harry Markle up. Tremendously enjoy the discussions, though I am more of an observer than a participant.

It will be interesting to see JH&M’s next moves. Lots of doors seem to have shut and possibly been padlocked as well so far as their options. I think if they tried to go back to BRF at this time that there would be pretty much a shunning going on. They cannot be trusted. Certainly I would not be eager to take someone back that told everyone that I was “toxic.”
Snippy said…
@Portcitygirl, I doubt the Harkles would get preferential treatment at Thrifty Foods or Save-on-Foods. Grocery stores here have been out/low on many staples for days...toilet paper, diapers, pasta, rice, flour, canned goods. Grocery stores are putting in plexiglass shields at cash stations, marking distancing areas at checkouts with tape on the floor, limiting certain purchases to 1-2 items per order, no deliveries or rain checks, putting in security guards. I imagine security guards would be needed if the public saw some burly men roll up in a black Range Rover with English accents and try to cut the lines!
Henrietta said…
I'm still surprised that the Sussex Royal Foundation evaporated into thin air. That was plainly going to be MM's bread and butter. Something must have happened behind the scenes. I know Chris Ship is always cited as the source for the Sussexes' paying their PR people using foundation money, but that's still not very widely known. (I was never able to find it on his Twitter.) Maybe someone threatened to make it well known? That all the Disney money had been spent, and NONE of it went to protecting wildlife?

And xxxxx, I would guess that their finances don't look so hot right now. But MM does seem very certain of their money from PC for her to have done what she did to Camilla's big speech and then simply ignoring Camilla's stare-down at the Abbey. Maybe Charles's guilt keeps the money flowing? My guess is that MM can't keep to a budget with PC's money. It's the kind of wealth that she's never had.
Starry said…
Hi all. Great post Nutty.

I think they're both in California, and Archie isn't with them. I'm in the "surrogate-born and someone-else-is-caring-for-him" camp. I like the Frogmore 2.0 notion! We all know Meg has zero originality!

Nutty - great point that no PR pro would have gone ahead with that ridiculous instagram post.

I'd bet money that they (she) was as high as a kite when they posted that. Typical half-baked ideas.

The "train online to be a counselor" nonsense could be a nail in the coffin for their reputation. Unbelievably naive.
PaulaMP said…
I don't think they are together at all. This is all for show. I can imagine them going back to the UK, Harry willingly and Meg not at all. All their big plans have gone up in smoke, the economy and world will be very different at the end of this coronavirus situation. Nobody is going to be excited to pay big bucks to listen to these idiots drone on, Travalyst is done with, she's too old to be any kind of actress plus she isn't a good one. The Royals would be mad if they give him any type of duties again though, he has proven he cannot be trusted.
HappyDays said…
Henrietta said…
SwishyFishy, I'll see your rumor with another rumor (courtesy of the DM comment boards): MM's nanny is really her aunt, Saundra Johnson, and MM was in her wedding when she was little.

That would go a little way in explaining how MM is willing to leave her toddler for such long periods of time.

@Henrietta: If Archie’s nanny is indeed Meghan’s aunt, I think it says a lot about Meghan’s bigotry. Auntie wasn’t good enough to be invited to the wedding, but she’s OK to be the hired help.

I think having Doria was at the wedding as a virtue signaling device, but she didn’t invite the other members of her mother’s side to avoid too many back faces sitting with Doria.
Animal Lover said…
NY Post reports over 303,000 cases worldwide and deaths about 13,000. Deaths were 10,000 this morning.

The Sussexes aren't relevant anymore.
@Genia
“Harry has Diana’s worst characteristics: emotionally unbalanced, dumb, impulsive, love of fame and adulation, manipulative, and cold willingness to dump friends.” I agree with you! And I am glad that an online forum exists where you can make such a statement without fear of being censored or vilified by trolls.

A bit of levity: I read this in the NY Post (I think). It’s from a British mum and is very funny IMHO:

While many parents are stressing about how they're going to keep their children learning during the coronavirus COVID-19 schools shutdown, one mum seems to already have it all worked out.

She's come up with a home-schooling daily schedule for her children for the next few weeks.

It contains six one-hour lessons followed by an after school club, with a particular focus on the home-schooling section of the curriculum.

The day starts at 9am with a home economics 'food tech' class focusing on how to make coffee - a very handy skill if their parents are working from home.

Once they've cracked that, it's time to move onto mechanical engineering at 10am.



FrenchieLiv said…
Tomorrow is Mother’s Day in the UK so I think she will do something (photo on her IG after the lovely Cambridges’IG post) and we may know if they are with Archie and where).
Henrietta said…
FrenchieLiv, She'll do something Diana-related, guaranteed.
luxem said…
I know people are questioning Meg's suggestion to train as a counselor while quarantined, but if you look at the org links she provided - specifically crisistextline.org - you'll see that you CAN train as a counselor in 30 hours with their web-based training. I looked at the US version of this site, so maybe it is different for the UK and Ireland (had to provide identifying info, so didn't look at the those version).

That said, the crisistextline.org requires an application to be filled out, two references and a commitment for 200 hours, completed within a year. If your reason for doing the work is "I"m bored at home and looking for something to do during the quarantine" you may not be the most qualified candidate for the job.

As usual for Meg, it was not a well-thought out suggestion.
Sorry everyone, my efforts to copy-and-paste fell flat:

My home schooling plan:

9 am: home economics—how to make me coffee
10 am: mechanical engineering—how to assemble and operate a shark Hoover
11 am: PE—run outside putting recycle and rubbish out
1 pm: chemistry—how to bleach the loo
2 pm: geography—lesson in where floor items that they tossed there belong! Tidy up put away ready for use another day!
3 pm: science—how fairy liquid removes grease from pan
5 pm: after school club—go to your room on your iPad and be quiet!



YankeeDoodle said…
Dear HRH Charles, the Prince of Wales, Duke iof Cornwall, and so on,

As a member of the dwindling members of the Americans Who Like The British Royal Family, I must give you a report of a meeting (teleconferencing, of course) that has voted, (yes, people actually voting about a group of people receiving hundreds of millions of pounds per year, aka The Lucky Sperm Club, whose births give them unimaginable rights, too) and thus, the following must be done:

1. Cut off all your tenant)s money from your Cornish Duchy, stat, today, now, yesterday, in one minute, no stalling, too late already, stop being a coward about H, and release the statement: “My grandchildren George, Charlotte and Louis are not leaving our country. My son Prince William and his wife will not leave their children or their Homeland. I will never leave the people of Great Britain, United Kingdom, nor my wife. I would rather die than leave Her Majesty, the Queen and HRH, Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. We are together in these times of trouble. Thus, it is with a little sadness, but accompanied by much relief, that my son Prince Harry, and his non-citizen wife, the latter illegally given the title of Duchess if Sussex (cough cough, Sorry, but I am laughing) will no longer be entitled to any money from my tenants in Cornwall, or from any other taxpayer funds. Security will be cut to the minimum, as Prince Harry deserted his country, and the money needs to go to police in our cities, whose lives may be further endangered by lawlessness caused by fear and lack of food. Thus, Prince Harry will always be my son, but he left to make money on his own. No more takers. Leaving his family, position of great esteem, to make more money than the millions he received every year is a choice I must respect. Thus, no more money from me, my country, and commonwealth countries. Prince Harry, God go with you, but not the money from people who are suffering. Get with the program, and shut up, too.”
Mimi said…
Oh Yankee Doodle, that was great. How can we get that to the spineless wonder [Charles). Unless he is ill he should have said that a looooooooooooooookn time ago. I KNOW the British people would have loved him for that and their confidence in his ability to rule would be renewed!
xxxxx said…
lulz..... Good one Yankee Doodle. For Harry and Megs and the Duchy of Cornwall monies funneled to them via Checkbook Charles. At the very least Charles must cut back the two million to one third of a million pounds per annum. This means they would have to "thrive" on roughly £ 600,000 per year when you include what Harry's trusts throw off for him.
Kate said…
They are likely to go crawling back to the BRF. With the type of lifestyle that Smegs requires, 2 million pounds from Charles per year just will not do.
I have to say the best part of the coronavirus is that H&M’s prospects will be nearly nonexistent!!
Snippy said…
@YankeeDoodle, spot on! The people of Britain need the duchy $ more than Hazbeen and Megs do. Walmart is hiring, they can both get jobs there.
I think Give Us a Shout has a volunteer training program. I believe William answered calls or texts when this launched. However, directing people to flood these organizations right now seems ridiculous. People are trying to gather daily essentials and stay healthy. I doubt the organizations are running full speed and prepared for an onslaught of volunteers. Tone deaf.
Henrietta said…
Nutty nailed it: The Queen will address the nation. The comments on the DM article are shockingly republican.

https://mol.im/a/8138643
HappyDays said…
If Harry receives £2million a year from the family and about another £300-350,000 a year from his trust from Diana, I doubt it will be nearly enough for them (actually Meghan) to live in the style she has become accustomed to since the engagement. Additionally, because narcissists for the most part gauge their self-worth by lifestyle, including material possessions, the size of their security detail, the people they associate with, etc., her overblown senses of entitlement and grandiosity and urge to maintain her carefully-curated facade will lead her to overspend and get them into serious debt and financial problems.

Money is one of the frequent causes of fights in marriages and often, eventual divorces. Meghan likely believes the tripe spouted by so-called SM and marketing “experts“ quoted in news articles since the Megxit bombshell was dropped. Many of you fellow nutties may recall the experts were saying the Harkles could become billionaires. That’s some incredibly high expectations.

So in a way, she’s essentially backed into a corner and will look like a failure if she and Harry don’t become extremely high earners with all the trappings.
lizzie said…
@abbyh wrote about Harry's latest video:

>>>Do you think that the white on the left edge is a window? If so, how odd that it is not the same width at the top than bottom. Windows are parallel (or should be) to doors so ... and yet there is a distinct tilt the other direction with the wood what it is. Does not make sense to me. At all.<<<

I hadn't watched the video until now. (Watching Harry talk these days makes me feel ill.)

I see what you mean about the slanting white strip on the left. Could be a window or a door frame. But it looks like to me the brown cabinet on the right isn't at a 90° angle from the bottom of the frame either which is what I'd expect to see. It looks like both slant inwards.

It's been forever since I took photography classes. But it looks like to me that either

1. The camera lens isn't parallel to the scene being shot. In other words, the camera is mounted on the tripod so the lens is slanted forward rather than being straight up and down. Because Harry is closer to the camera than the background details, his face isn't distorted, plus he's moving around. And obviously he's very close to the camera because he reaches at the end to turn it off.

2. A "fish eye" lens or filter was used. Why I don't know.

It is an awful video. So casually amateur to the point of suggesting he couldn't care less how it looked. Looks like it was filmed in a laundry room to me or maybe a garage that's been finished off inside.

No matter where they are, or where he is, it does seem he could have been filmed outside. Standing in front of a bush or something. It could have been a "tight shot" to avoid including geographic features that might reveal location.
YankeeDoodle said…
The Queen needs to make a speech. In my opinion, she should make references to WW2. Remind people how awful those days were (include footage of Buckingham Palace bombed) and especially show the horrible night the Nazis, Germans, destroyed every building around St. Paul, leaving the cathedral the only building left standing for much of the City of London. The Queen needs to speak and remind her fellow countrymen that this, too, shall pass, but repeat Churchill’s words, of sweat, tears, etc, and we, as people of GB, cannot panic, The character of the British people is Carry On.

The Americanization of Diana’s death was frankly embarrassing, and it is no wonder that Harry is still being listened to, from a tiny minority, when he squeaks like a freak about his mother, whom he shared with the spare to the heir, William. Sadly, Harry is middle-aged, has lost any looks he had, is looked upon as a sad clown, laughed at by the way his wife pushes him around, pulls him down, and actually, in a Muslim country, Morocco, actually insulted the Muslim people (they will never forget her dishonoring their monarch) by pushing herself forth, and touching everybody. Insanity. Diplomatic disaster. Charles should have cut them off at that moment. Instead, the lies about some child that was born was allowed to be an excuse. Where is Archie Bunker, btw?

The Queen needs to make a televised announcement yesterday. Or Charles. And get rid of the disaster called H and M. Cut them off now.

Scandi Sanskrit said…
Re: ridiculous aqua square

Canva is free, Meg. You don't even have to download the app. It works on a web browser.

😘😘

Also, DIN TAI FUNG VEGETARIAN DUMPLING: https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hZyh5puOv/?igshid=11z0glrpkwsbs 🥟💚💚

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I know it's been weeks since she first wore taht but it cracks me up every time I see it, still. Something to lol at during difficult times.

And hopefully will give the Chinese restaurants business as people crave dumplings.
@Yankee Doodle, great comment. But I’m afraid that Charles doesn’t have the cojones to do as he should. And the Queen appears to have a soft spot for Harry that will continue to leave the door open for him to return to the RF.

Wherever Harry, Meghan and the kid are, under no circumstances should they be allowed back in. It seems that only William and Kate would have the backbone necessary to deny them, though. I hope I am mistaken.
Sandie said…
@YankeeDoodle said...
The Queen needs to make a speech.

There is an article in the DM today saying that the Queen will go on television to make a speech but is discussing with government the best timing for maximum impact.
Tamhsn said…
On FB page of HARRY MARKLED people are saying they are reporting Meghan's "be a counselor if you are bored" post...

One said "Very simple. All of us collectively should go to that IG post and report to admin as false information. When Instagram receives many reports collectively, will look into it and hopefully delete the post altogether... "

Should we do that?
Fifi LaRue said…
Spineless Charles. It would drive me absolutely mad. Apparently Camilla isn't bothered by it. When Charles dies, which is a great possibility considering he's been exposed to Covid-19, and he's not in the greatest shape, the milk train ain't gonna run anymore. That's when Harry will really blow up, and show all his anger at his family. He will be spitting all kinds of filth and lies about his family. And, making outrageous demands. In public. That's my prediction.
PrettyPaws said…
Good morning, Nutties

It is 05:13 am here in Winchester, UK and I have just skimmed through the front page of the Daily Mail and there is not one single item about the Harkles! Totally unbelievable! I mean, this is the DM I'm talking about - what on earth can have happened. Either those two losers have run out of money to pay for puff pieces or they're gearing up for something big. Is this the calm before the storm, do you think?
Magatha Mistie said…
@PrettyPaws
She’s busy trying to source a baby to take photos of
for her Mother Megs “Mother’s Day” IG mush.
xxxxx said…
Yes DM is Harkle free! Due to the virus panic! Just one article for the Grifting Gruesomes.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's coronavirus action plan: Couple advise followers to train as counsellors if they're bored at home
Prince Harry, 35, and Meghan, 38, shared Instagram post about mental health
Reached out to those who feel 'alone, anxious or scared' with the message
The Duke and Duchess shared resources to 'help us all through the process'
Asked followers to digital train as counselors in order to help support others
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8135555/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-share-Instagram-message-anxious-scared.html
Prince George weighs in on the Corona virus: :-)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-AlW4kncY7/?igshid=457npk558pfs

The caption reads: “Don’t be surprised if when all this is over I’m King.”
Scandi Sanskrit said…
These two tools need to SHUT UP.

You can't just become a mental health counsellor through an online course because you're bored.

If you're bored, go play a bloody video game.

I have been so depressed I thought I had no reason to live, and I can tell you that if I spoke to someone while I was in my darkest, lowest point, and they said the 'wrong' thing to me or worded something the wrong way, I might've done something stupid.
Ava C said…
@Nutty "@Fairy Crocodile, I think they may be implementing a "save Harry from himself" operation, but not a "save Harry for Royal duty" operation. He's too damaged and they know it. "

I agree entirely. He's too damaged and just not up to it. Only ELF was able to do the emperor's new clothes trick. Now he's gone, Harry's naked before the world for the second time in his life. A much older Harry. The world would be less forgiving even before this virus hit.

I'm all for Beatrice having a greater role, and I want to see more of Eugenie and Jack too. Both sisters were brilliant in the Queen's 90th birthday documentary. They were clued up about their grandmother's life and they also managed to be both respectful and fond. Harry struggles to do just one of those at a time. I'm wary of Edo but I think that's often the way with obviously good-looking men of the 'ladies' men' type. They have to prove that they're nice people too. He's doing well so far, or someone is on his behalf, but I think he must have an eye for detail and a capacity for hard work to have built such a successful career.

Both sisters are educated and willing to make a meaningful contribution. Now is the time for William to enable them to do it.

The Cambridges are still putting their best feet forward. Even now Kate makes me smile, and I loved her pink trouser suit from M&S this week.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Ava C, I saw on Plant that the pink trouser suit was chosen to match the color of the NHS nurses' uniforms.

Having it come from M&S was also a masterstroke. Very important for the British Royal Family to reflect British values and British brands at a time like this.

I also agree with you that it is time to put the York girls to work. William needs backup.
Nutty Flavor said…
One way to start might be to have the York girls Skyping with elderly people who are stuck at home.

A few Royalist elders would be delighted to get a call from a princess.

They should choose elderly people from all over the UK too, not just London.
Magatha Mistie said…
William does need back up, hopefully the York girls will be called upon.
What about Sarah Chatto, I know she has no royal dealings, but is loyal
and knows the ropes. An “All hands on deck” approach is much needed,
and needs must.
Unknown said…
But I still remember the many reports at the time that both the York girls were absolutely vile to Kate when she was first married.....
Magatha Mistie said…
@Ava C
Harry is, for the second time, naked to the world.
Inglorious B...... comes to mind.

I enjoyed “Lady in Waiting” have sent a copy
to my mum for Mother’s Day.
I didn’t know Lady Anne was unofficially
engaged to Johnnie Spencer.
Nutty Flavor said…
But I still remember the many reports at the time that both the York girls were absolutely vile to Kate when she was first married.....

I haven't heard this, although it may be true. Even if it is - and they were unkind when Kate first joined the family - a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then.

They were in their teens and twenties at the time, and are now in their thirties.

Heaven forbid we all be judged by the stupidest mistakes of our youth.
Ava C said…
@Magatha Mistie - oh yes, Lady Anne's engagement to Johnnie Spencer fell through, if I remember rightly, thanks to Diana's grandmother's machinations, to get her daughter (Diana's mother) paired of with him instead. She used the excuse of instability on Lady Anne's family's side, which is rich when you think of it. The end result of the 'more advisable' pairing was Diana.

Although the Spencers have been rocky in their gene pool alone for generations (my knowledge is sketchy here because I get impatient reading about the 18th-century ones). I always think they're tiresome and I have no time for the current head of that family. Give me someone low-key and level-headed any day. That's why I'm Team Camilla. She's not perfect, but she sets a steady course. That's what we need.
Ava C said…
New Telegraph article about my favourite royal:

PART ONE

Making of a monarch: How Kate found her voice

As the younger royals step up, Camilla Tominey charts how Kate evolved from shy newlywed to confident, outspoken senior royal on a mission

The Queen's dramatic coronavirus statement said it all: ‘You can be assured that my family and I stand ready to play our part.’ And with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex now out of the picture, the onus on the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge has never been greater. Yet as the royal couple prepare to step up to the front line in boosting morale, the Duchess of Cambridge has already been doing her bit to secure the future of the monarchy in the public’s affections.

Opening up about ‘mum guilt’, hypnobirthing and the ‘terrifying’ experience of presenting Prince George to the world just hours after giving birth, Kate’s podcast debut last month reminded us why the girl from Bucklebury is fast becoming the nation’s sweetheart. Having largely been seen but not heard during the formative years of her now almost decade-long marriage to Prince William, there is a sense that the 38-year-old mum of three has not only found her voice but decided to turn up the volume. Why now?

While it’s tempting to put Kate’s sudden flurry of solo activity down to the recent and hasty departure of Harry and Meghan from The Firm, Kate has in fact been beavering away for the past eight years. Even before she became a mother for the first time in 2013, Kate had identified the years from conception to five as pivotal in her understanding of why adults might suffer from addiction issues, mental-health problems and other social challenges later in life.

But as one source close to Kate told Stella, ‘She doesn’t just want to talk about this issue, but to build an evidence base for action. It’s easy to dismiss work on child development as nice and cuddly, but the social side of this is as significant as climate change. ‘She’s worked away quietly and become an expert in the field. She understands the science and she’s now respected by the people in the sector because she’s spent years trying to work it all out. So it is only natural for people to want to hear more from her about it.’

Kate sat down to talk to author Giovanna Fletcher for the podcast Happy Mum, Happy Baby to promote her nationwide survey on childhood, 5 Big Questions, which received more than 200,000 responses. Giovanna thought she was only going to have 10 minutes with the Duchess following an official engagement at a London nursery, but Kate appeared so comfortable that they ended up chatting for over half an hour. ‘I didn’t expect any of it. I’ve never heard her speak so openly before,’ she said later. According to those close to Kate, who used to be so afraid of public speaking that she would visibly shake before taking to the lectern, she feels much more confident now because ‘she knows what she wants to say’.
Ava C said…
PART TWO

As one insider put it, ‘It sounds basic, but Kate’s built her confidence with her knowledge in this area. Public speaking is much easier when you’ve got something you want to talk about. And this is a subject she has not only spent a great deal of time researching, but that she cares passionately about.’ Hence her enthusiasm when designing a childfriendly garden for the RHS Chelsea Flower Show last year – and for discussing family matters when whipping up a roulade with Mary Berry for a Christmas TV special in December.

It seems not only as if motherhood has been the making of Kate, but that bringing Prince George, six, Princess Charlotte, four, and Prince Louis, who’s almost two, into her work makes her feel more comfortable opening up about life behind palace gates. In discussing giving birth, the school run and how she enjoys getting ‘filthy dirty’ with her brood on walks in the countryside, Kate has never been more relatable.

But she has also had an awakening as to how influential her championing of such causes can be globally. Another source close to the Duke and Duchess’s Royal Foundation, which spearheads their charity work, described how the couple had only recently come to realise how ‘impactful’ they could be. ‘Their work is being recognised by NGOs, leaders and activists around the world,’ said the source. ‘It’s about creating a positive environment, saying, “Yes, these challenges are daunting, but what can we do to work together to solve them?” The Foundation is about putting intel in the hands of everyone regardless of their circumstances and providing support where it is needed,’ they continued. ‘It has been going for 10 years and what they want now is a number of smaller things on a bigger scale – they want to use their time and public roles as effectively as possible.

‘The Duchess’s early-years work is a platform she’ll head up for the rest of her life. This is what politicians can’t do. Their time horizons are too short, whereas royals can bring about change on a generational basis.’ So what we will be seeing is less tree planting and plaque-unveiling, and more initiatives such as 5 Big Questions – along with William’s launching of the new Earthshot Prize for environmentalists and his Heads Up campaign promoting better mental health in football. It is worth noting that the idea for the original Heads Together campaign, which saw William, Harry and Kate unite to ‘start a national conversation about mental health’, came from the Duchess, having noticed that mental health was the common thread running through all their charitable work. ‘She’s never really taken credit for it, but that’s the Duchess for you,’ said one insider. ‘She’s a bit of a paradox, really. She’s shy and introverted. She’s not a showy person. It’s deeply British. And there’s a recognition of duty more and more.’
Ava C said…
PART THREE

When they first married in 2011, they were cruelly dubbed the ‘Can’t-do, won’t-do Cambridges’ behind palace gates, appearing reluctant to step up to full-time royal duties. But the sudden absence of Harry and Meghan now means that as the future Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Kate, have little choice but to take on more royal responsibilities on behalf of the Queen, who turns 94 in April. In recognition of her growing status, Kate was given the Royal Family Order of Queen Elizabeth II in December 2017 – HM’s highest personal honour. Then in April last year she was made a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order (GCVO) – the female equivalent of a knighthood – to mark her eighth wedding anniversary.

According to Joe Little, managing editor of Majesty magazine, ‘The Queen giving Kate the Royal Family Order is a very big deal – not everybody in the family gets it and they often have to wait a long time for it; Princess Michael of Kent hasn’t got it. The GCVO is for services to the sovereign, so it’s a sign of the high esteem in which Kate is held.’ Describing how Kate had ‘upped the ante’ in recent years, he added, ‘Critics will say it’s because of Meghan and the rivalry between the Cambridges and Sussexes, but I think it’s more a case of William taking his job much more seriously now, and so is she. They are a Prince and Princess of Wales in waiting. ‘She’s more polished, composed and selfassured in public speaking; the real deal – I’m not saying that to criticise the other duchess.

As ambassadors for post-Brexit Britain, the couple have built on a hugely successful diplomatic charm offensive to Pakistan last year with a historic visit to Ireland already this year – and yet more foreign travel to come in 2020. As ever the spotlight will be on the Duchess’s evolving style. Having appeared to have relaxed her look in recent years, last month she caused a sales rush on a pair of £29.50 trainers from Marks & Spencer after wearing them to a SportsAid event at the London Stadium. Once criticised as dressing beyond her years, last April Kate worked with style advisor and former Vogue retail editor (and Telegraph writer) Virginia Chadwyck-Healey, and has brought new young designer labels into her wardrobe mix.

Along with Kate’s long-term stylist Natasha Archer, ‘Ginnie’, who has known the Duchess since their days at St Andrews University, has introduced wide-leg trousers, pussy-bow blouses and block heels to refresh Kate’s silhouette. With the stylists sorted, and the Duchess still being served by her ever-loyal Spanish nanny Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo and Italian housekeeper Antonella Fresolone, there is just one key vacancy to fill as 2020 shapes up to be the year of Kate. Her private secretary Catherine Quinn stepped down in November after two years in the post, and the Duchess is desperately in need of a new right-hand woman. Quinn worked as the chief operating officer and associate dean for administration at the University of Oxford’s Saïd Business School before joining Kensington Palace, and has an MBA from the business school, as well as degrees from US and UK universities – so the next recruit has some impressive shoes to fill.

That a candidate of a similarly high calibre is now being sought to help Kate transition into the role last held by Princess Diana serves as a reminder of the Duchess’s growing influence within an institution that is counting on her to keep it relevant, relatable and radiant into the next decade.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/03/22/making-monarch-kate-found-voice/
Magatha Mistie said…
The monarchy is in good hands.
Charles, & William have good women behind them.
Camilla, & Kate have strong backbones.
Fuzzynavel said…
I really wish the BRF had some influence on the Harkles plan to dabble in the field of mental health. It is easily a touchy subject still and they are making it a comedy sketch and joke material. That isnt helpful.
Nutty Flavor said…
Speaking of Charles, now would be a good time to see him.

The Queen has been visible, and so have the Cambridges, so it's a little odd that we have not heard from Charles and Camilla, even in isolation. It could give rise to rumors.
Nutty Flavor said…
Here's an article about the strains between the York girls and Kate. It's more recent than the wedding - as recent as the 2018 Easter service.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1171766/kate-middleton-news-princess-eugenie-princess-beatrice-royal-family-prince-william
Nutty Flavor said…
BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, @KensingtonRoyal on Instagram has a lovely Mother's Day tribute with four photos.

The text is as follows:


"To mothers new and old and families spending today together and apart – we are thinking of you all at this difficult time. Happy Mother’s Day 🌷

1. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge with their children in Norfolk.
2. Diana, Princess of Wales, with her children Prince William and Prince Harry.
3. Carole Middleton with her daughter Catherine.
4. A card from Prince George to his mother this Mother’s Day.
Portcitygirl said…
There is a Cosmopolitan puff piece about hams. Could not get the link to load, but the headline is ' Harry snapped before moving to Canada.'

It goes on to say bc MM didn't get a fair shake blah de blah.

Poor thing was disliked and criticized for running her big mouth too much. I wonder if jh gets this. Does he get he is disliked bc of this as well? If he doesnt he's brain dead.
Unknown said…
Re Kate and the York "girls" Royal precedence rules are complicated and so if Kate is in the company of William she is high up the list....if she6on her own she's toward the bottom....the York girls exploited this to be vile to her as she wasn't of "royal blood" It is why the Queen made Anne the Princess Royal ..so she wouldn't have to curtsy to Eugenie or even worse MM!!! Sorry but I don't think the York girls are as popular as some would think.....the have iffy mother and father ....
xxxxx said…
@Portcitygirl........ Direct from US Weekly, an American magazine, comes this. Drenched in sugar.

Why Prince Harry ‘Snapped’ Before Moving to Canada With Meghan Markle
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a31847724/prince-harry-snapped-before-canada-move-meghan-markle/

Apparently, Harry got really upset after he saw that Meghan wasn't being given a chance, and he was the one who decided to pack up the family and relocate. A source tells Us Weekly, "When it became clear Meghan was never going to get a fair shake, Harry snapped. He’s adamant that it was his call to move to Canada." And oof—"snapped" does not sound good!

It's not clear whether Harry thought that Meghan wasn't getting a "fair shake" from the British tabloids or from his own family, but it looks like both cases might be true. As we all know, Harry and Meghan previously filed a lawsuit against some British tabloids, and it also looks like things haven't been great between Harry and Prince William. According to a recent report, while William and Harry have "stopped short of trash-talking each other," they’re both "filled with anger and resentment," and William is still upset about Harry stepping down from his royal duties. (But FWIW, the Queen seems to have come to terms with it.)
lizzie said…
Here is an interesting analysis of the Yorks and Kate written in 2016. http://fromberkshiretobuckingham.blogspot.com/2016/06/beatrice-eugenie-and-kate-friends-or.html?m=1

Personally I think it's time to let bygones be bygones. Otherwise, I think Will may be in the position of cutting off his nose to spite his face. While he may have been "right" about Dave Clark, hence no invitation to the royal wedding, Pippa brought a date so saying it was "no ring no bring" doesn't work. And a big deal was made at the time that TQ left the guest list up to W&K because it wasn't an official state wedding. And the guest list was 1000. I'd have been pretty insulted too.

I also don't think it's fair to hold it against the York women for having iffy parents or for things that happened when they were practically teenagers.

While the York sisters may not be as popular as some here think, Beatrice WILL be a counselor of state when Charles is king assuming she's living in the UK. The Regency Act specifies by law the counselors are the Monarch's spouse and the next 4 people in the line of succession over 21 domiciled in the UK. If nothing else changes, that will be Will, Harry, Andrew, and Beatrice. It's not Will's choice.

I also don't think Will and Kate want to have to work what most people would consider "full-time" (as in 40 hours a week. Every week. And no fair counting getting dressed as part of the event or counting commuting time as work time for in-town events.) They have been stepping up but their event totals are still far below Anne's and Charles's and usually below Sophie's and Edward's. That can't continue forever. So Will's going to need help.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Unknown
You’re right, if Kate is on her own she has to curtsy to Beatrice & Eugenia.
If Kate is with William they have to curtsy to her.
Meghan has to curtsy to Kate.

Princess Anne became Princess Royal in 1987.
Beatrice was born 1988.
Piroska said…
@lizzie The Regeny Act is an Act pf Parliament and can be amended as it was in 1953 the emendment that year Making Prince Philip regent should HM die while Charles still a minor - without the amendment Princess Margaret would have been regent. The Queen Mother was reinstated as a Counsellor of State having lost that position on the death of her husband
I have started watching The Crown on Netflix (four years late!) and last night I watched the episode where the Duke of Windsor returns to the UK for his father's funeral, confronts his family about their treatment of Wallis and begs the new Queen to continue his allowance. The parallels between the Windsors and the Sussexes are striking, even though the series was filmed before Harry and Meghan even met. From Harry's facial expressions during the Commonwealth service, it appears that he is now having serious regrets; I don't think he ever anticipated having to give up so much. Meghan, on the other hand, seems to be on a revenge track. Revenge for what? What is the royal family supposed to have done to her that is so terrible she would act the way she did towards the Queen, Camilla and the other members? That's what I don't understand.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Interesting comments about Bea and Eugie been nasty to Kate. That was a big mistake if true. They were also punished for it more than once when huge scandals with their mother and father erupted. As far as younger royals go they have not done anything ridiculous or outrageous like Harry, and the public warned up to them after they dropped public funded RPOs. I don't think Kate will be vengeful to them, she has a bigger prize in mind. When she becomes first princess of Wales and then Queen.

Did you also notice how quickly Harry's relevance is fading away? Outside of the royal fold a day without building up his profile obscures him more than a year for other royals. His presentation standards are also slipping fast.
lizzie said…
@Piroska wrote

>>>The Regeny Act is an Act pf Parliament and can be amended<<<

True. I'm sure many if not all laws can be changed by Parliament. But once Charles is King, realistically how could it be changed to avoid Beatrice serving as a counselor of state? I'm assuming (but think it's a safe assumption) Charles will be King before 6-year old George is 21. Or even 18. If HMTQ were to die before Philip, I suppose a change in the law could allow him to remain a counselor as you point out was done for the Queen Mother. But she was 53 years old when that was done. Philip is nearly 99 years old now. How likely is it if TQ died first, the act would be amended for him? And that in all that attention to amending Andrew would be left in place? Or even Harry if he's not living in the UK?

Of course, I'm not very familiar with how politics work in the UK. But it seems unlikely to me politicians would concern themselves with amending an act to remove the York sisters because they were mean to Kate (assuming they were) or because their parents are idiots (while leaving one of their parents as a counselor of state.)

I'm not talking here about who would be the regent if one is needed. If TQ needs one it's Charles, if Charles needs one it's Will. So it's not a Princess Margaret situation with the possibility Beatrice will ever be regent as some tabs have suggested.
Miggy said…
Apologies if already posted.

Officially no longer a 'royal'? UK charity Smart Works quietly removes 'HRH' when referring to patron Meghan Markle on its website.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8139523/UK-charity-quietly-removes-HRH-royal-referring-patron-Meghan-Markle-website.html
Nelo said…
British women won't be getting a happy mother's day from Meghan. .
https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020032286661/why-meghan-markle-wont-celebrate-mothers-day-today/
Sandie said…
@Barbara from Montreal:
Meghan, on the other hand, seems to be on a revenge track. Revenge for what? What is the royal family supposed to have done to her that is so terrible she would act the way she did towards the Queen, Camilla and the other members? That's what I don't understand.

Let us assume Meghan is a narcissist. As such, some of her traits would be that she needs to dominate and control, be admired and adored, but here is a list of key traits (she would need to have 5 to be labelled a narcissist):

* Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
* Continually demeaning, bullying and belittling others
* Exploiting others to achieve personal gain
* Lack of empathy for the negative impact they have on the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
* Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
* Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
* Need for continual admiration from others
* Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
* Intense envy of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them

She rushes into an engagement and wedding, and to join a family that is an institution and steeped in British traditions and culture and deeply linked to a church that also has historical roots and to which she has hastily converted but feels no connection to and knows nothing about. The family is all about hierarchy, duty, traditions, and family. She even goes to Sandringham for Christmas with the royal family shortly after the engagement. Imagine what her experience there was and how resentful and bitter and angry she must have been feeling inside as a narcissist.
* She has to learn about how to use a knife and fork and drink tea the British way and what all that crockery and cutlery and glasses on the dining table mean and how to use them.
* She has to learn about who to curtsy to and when.
* She has to learn about what presents to give and when and how.
* She has to learn what to wear and when (never mind about finding her way around a huge house).
* She has to try and have conversations when she is not the centre of attention and people are talking about country stuff and people and all sorts of things that are completely alien to her.

I think that narcissistic rage developed and built into anger and resentment against Harry's family from early on.
Unknown said…
To me Harry didn't look sad, wistful or regretful at the Commonwealth Service....he looked furious. Look closely at his reaction after W & K arrived....he is livid. I wonder if he thought they had "won" because W & K had agreed not to join the procession but William's barely there greeting showed him nothing had changed. To me Harry has been utterly complicit in this whole mess....MM is just his enabler
I work with substance abusers and Harry's behaviour is very reminiscent of what can happen to long term abusers....their families don't recognise them from when they were youngsters...it damaged their whole personality
There was a programme on UK tv last night about Harry which basically concentrated entirely on the loss of his mother and attributes every bit of bad behaviour since to grief he hasn't dealt with but as Isay it looks different to me. He's always been self obsessed and petulant(look at old interviews before MM came on the scene - it's there bubbling away not necessarily beneath the surface!) The royal family have a very odd upbringing, add losing his mother, being a bit thick and then imbibing all sorts of rubbish and then add in marrying a narc and what you see now isn't so very surprising.....William should get down on his knees and thank the lord for the stability of the Middleton family several hundred times per day.......
Sandie said…
Of course, what she also seen at that Sandringham Christmas was that Harry has deep connections to his family. Part of the Narcissistic MO is to separate their mark from family and friends so that they can exert complete control.

I think that she was still swept away with the attention from the press, the reception from the British people (people in crowds were fawning all over her wherever she went and all media was awash with stories and photographs of her), and her meteoric elevation during that first Christmas, and so she still planned at that time (and for a while afterwards) to stay in the family and 'revolutionise' it.

For her second Christmas at Sandringham, she was pregnant and the media was awash with stories about a rift between the Sussexes and the Cambridges so she was sure of lots of attention - in public, but not in the family. Her control and domination of Harry was almost complete (and by then his family was definitely seen by her as a stumbling block for that) and she was sure that she was the most famous and popular person in the world. How dare his family not give her the attention and adoration she deserved? How dare they give her a revamped servant's 'cottage' as a home? How dare they give her a bandeau and not a tiara to wear at her wedding? How dare they try to control what she did and said and wore? How dare they not let her create her own court where she had complete control and could outshine all other royals? How dare any of them outshine her? How dare the media publish stories about her (and awful photographs) that did not follow the story she wanted and how dare the royal family not do something about the bad press she was getting?
Sandie said…
There are people commenting on this blog who know a lot more about narcissism than I do and who can fill in the gaps.

If anyone in the family was rude or unkind to her (and I doubt it), it would have been a brief encounter and the person was probably misunderstood rather than deliberately unkind. A narcissist wouldn't see it that way and would hold a grudge forever and take revenge. However, as I outlined in my posts above, the rage and resentment and desire for revenge that built up in Meghan was about her narcissism and not about what anyone did or said to her.

I have talked my way into feeling compassion for her. She does not know how to think, feel and behave any other way, unless she is putting on an act that she thinks is required for a certain situation. If she does not seek help to fundamentally change her unconscious and conscious drivers of her thoughts, feelings and behaviours, she is going to end up alone (she will always have a couple of fawning hanger-ons), running out of money for plastic surgery, holidays and all her other luxury wants, and increasingly aligning herself with dodgy people so she can live in luxury. If her marriage to Harry does survive, it will become more and more co-dependent and toxic.

She doesn't have long-standing good decent caring and wise friends, beloved family or even the right husband to stage an intervention and get her to the right therapist. I have participated in intervention for family members who were drug addicts, so I know what it takes to get someone to the point of an intervention and then to support them through recovery. Meghan has no one who could or would do that for her.

The narcissist culture rooted in the celebrity of movie stars, musicians and so on may not last this Corona-19 pandemic or may be very diminished by it.
Ava C said…
DM says Charles and Camilla have gone to Birkhall (their house in Scotland). Our house ceases to be our house in two weeks' time when our buyers are due to move in (or where will they live?) and our new house is in Scotland. Feels as if it's thousands rather than 300 miles away in terms of the difficulty moving now. No car - was to be by train. Oh to have the royal flight at your disposal.
Ava C said…
Reading about Anne of Cleves in the Telegraph there were a fair number of criticisms of Hilary Mantel because of her recent championship of Meghan. That was the end for many people and they don't sound as if they'll be slow to forget. Her criticism of Kate years ago now did nothing like as much damage. Very ill-judged.

I'm reading the final part of Mantel's Wolf Hall trilogy now. I've never bought her take on Cromwell or Thomas More, but I love her writing. However she still makes you work to follow the dialogue and that seems like one effort too many at the moment. She makes a lot of comments about ignorant ordinary folk starting ludicrous rumours about the king and his court. Far more than I remember in the other two books. Wonder if Mantel ever dipped into blogs before she spoke about Meghan?
FrenchieLiv said…

" Prince Harry, 35, and Meghan Markle, 38, paid global tribute on UK Mother's Day Duke and Duchess of Sussex addressed Instagram post to mums 'all over world' Shared caption alongside image featuring different ways people address mum "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8140019/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-post-global-Mothers-Day-message-thanking-Mummy-Mum-Mom-Mama.html

Where is Archie? Will she release photos for the US Mothers's day?
@Sandie - Thank you for your explanation - of course, she was angry not because of anything they did to her, but because of what they didn't do, which is to make her the center of attention and shower her with admiration. She must have been livid that Kate got more than she did (such as the right to wear a tiara at state dinners)simply because Kate is higher up in the hierarchy. Since Meghan has put so much emphasis on being a humanitarian, I googled "narcissist humanitarian" and learned from a psychologist that some narcs do seek out humanitarian work, not because they care about the people they are supposedly helping (they don't) because of the praise, admiration and adulation they receive for being humanitarians.
Lurking said…
White Wall/Cabinet... it was chosen as a clean backdrop and one that doesn't give away any clues as to their location. They could be anywhere in the world.

Someone in TP's comments said there was a door with a barcode that Harry used as a backdrop, however after going down the rabbit hole, I found nothing. Speculation was that the barcode indicated a military installation, however I've seen barcodes on door frames in office buildings and schools, so meh.

Speculation about their whereabouts... Smeg would be permitted to enter the US as a US citizen. Harry perhaps as her spouse, but realistically, no one is going to prevent a blood royal from entering the US unless they have been convicted of sacrificing babies and throwing a bbq. I haven't heard if Archie (still can't get over the horrendous name) is a US citizen, but doubtful he would be barred, being that his mother is a US citizen.

My speculation: They are together. Harry is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. He spends his days smoking weed and playing on the xbox. She sits around crafting the perfect insta story, barking orders at staff... if they have any left.
7am33y said…
They are probably still at the McMansion. We could order them some avocados and bananas and pens to help them pass the time. Although they probably have a secret code for deliveries. If anyone needs the address to google them let me know, although everyone must know it by now. That place is fast becoming as infamous as the Tate-Polanski house.
Portcitygirl said…
So it's official. They must not have Archie. Posted the only real photo they have for the umpteenth time.
Marie said…
If you are bored, then train yourself to be a (mental health) counselor. What rubbish. Firstly, one of the problems in mental health is that you have under-qualified people who often go into therapy to examine their own baggage and thus doing more harm than good. Anyone thinks they can be a therapist, but it sadly is a field where very little evidence-based reporting exists on therapy effectiveness. Trauma therapy with PTSD patients is a particular example of this - research is showing that the typical talk therapy can be more damaging as it often makes people relive the trauma and without necessary support, reliving the trauma can actually prevent healing. EDMR or other neurological reconditioning is now being more and more recommended. We're seeing probably the effect of Meghan's attempts at being a mental health counselor with Harry.

Second, it shows Meghan's attitudes towards charity and helping others - mainly to bring purpose to her own superficial life "curated" on Instagram and private photographers. Quite the opposite of service to me. Also, not sure why she could not have simply redirected people to William's initiative to train to send text-messages as part of a suicide crisis hot-line, quite a different, more humble endeavour than gaining uni qualifications and licensing as an actual therapist but just as important.

I want to stop harumphing, but I can't.
Unknown said…
No new Archie photo for Mother’s Day makes me wonder if:
(1) They don’t have easy access to him
(2) He’s too big to pawn off as 11-month old
(3) He’s not real
(4) His look/condition is not on brand for H&M
(5) They are planning more lucrative opportunities for his reveal
(6) They want to avoid more Photoshop fails
KCM1212 said…
Gotta love this headline:


MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry surprised fans with
Instagram update 'not about them'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1258649/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-coronavirus-latest-sussex-royal-instagram-update-royal-new
Jdubya said…
Harry Markles new (03-21) "today i feel" post is up
Teasmade said…
Question re Mothers Day postings: I wasn't particularly expecting a picture of Archie (nor do I care about this charade except for when the Truth is Revealed) but shouldn't any post be about these clowns' MOTHERS, not their plastic doll?

That is, honoring their mothers and not herself as a "mother."
Henrietta said…
Nutty Flavor said, "The Queen has been visible, and so have the Cambridges, so it's a little odd that we have not heard from Charles and Camilla, even in isolation. It could give rise to rumors."

The Express is expressing "concern" about Prince Charles:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1258394/prince-charles-news-coronavirus-uk-royal-family-latest-prince-albert-monaco-update
SwampWoman said…

Blogger Marie said...
If you are bored, then train yourself to be a (mental health) counselor. What rubbish. Firstly, one of the problems in mental health is that you have under-qualified people who often go into therapy to examine their own baggage and thus doing more harm than good. Anyone thinks they can be a therapist, but it sadly is a field where very little evidence-based reporting exists on therapy effectiveness. Trauma therapy with PTSD patients is a particular example of this - research is showing that the typical talk therapy can be more damaging as it often makes people relive the trauma and without necessary support, reliving the trauma can actually prevent healing. EDMR or other neurological reconditioning is now being more and more recommended. We're seeing probably the effect of Meghan's attempts at being a mental health counselor with Harry.


Perhaps she should have said "learn to code!"
One poster mentioned a while back that the word among the `people who know' in S.Africa is that the Tutu baby was a hired photographic model. Apparently, the Harkles wanted sole rights for a year, meaning nobody else would be able to use him lest he be recognised. At least he was a real child.

That's a very good point about the Mothering Sunday photo being an old one. After all, hasn't the RF said something about him being with a family that loves him, ie here?

Husband and I were in our local Tesco superstore on Monday. Walking past Children's Clothes, other half spotted a toddler's quilted `siren suit' (as they were called when I wore one made by my mother).

Ever the joker, he held it up and asked if it'd suit him - of course, I thought of that pap walk and told him to turn it upside down. It would have taken mere seconds to stuff it with scrunched up newspaper, ditto a hat & a pair of bootees, plus a few safety pins and - Lo! Instant Archie!

We did need that laugh!
abbyh said…

I do find it odd that on UK Mother's day no one is reading about her joys as a mother.
Yes we want to do something for all the mothers but ...

Not hearing about PC (and C) is bothering me too in a different way.

Teasmade, you're absolutely right - yet again it's all about Me! Me! Me! Mommy Meghan!!!
SwampWoman said…
I would be concerned for Camilla as well, as she is a long-term (but now ex) smoker. I believe that she is Charles' rock.
YankeeDoodle said…
I have studied “How to Be a British Princess” and guess what! I passed all exams, without bribing my tutors, too, and with not one wrong answer. Now I can give official advice to all Wannabee Princesses. The following is just a sampling of my Princess School. Tuition is free, but a roll of toilet paper, Kleenex box, personal wipes, Tide detergent, and canned tuna fish will be looked upon most favorably.

Please answer the following multiple choice questions:

You are a sweet, 25 year old, university-educated English “rose” working in the City as a Vice President of a HUUUGE Bank, helping your parents and paying for your younger siblings education. Oh, forgot to mention that your godmother is the Duchess of Cornwall, and godfather Daniel Craig. Prince Harry thinks you are hot, and after one date, proposes marriage. Do you

A. Say no, I have too much integrity and brains to waste my time on, lol, Harry
B. Look at his bloodlines, and pause at the “madness” running through the family, shyly saying “maybe, sometime, think about it”
C. Say yes, I love his money too much, but not him, so....
D. Say yes, but insist that a Prince needs a job, a purpose in life, show fidelity to country and family, stop dinking, drugging, go back to school and pass the Eton art project without help, shave the silly hair on face, dress respectfully, do not touch wife in public
E. Sign your name Meghan Markle, ‘nuff already

You are Normal and Honest. Answer the following questions in the order of importance:

What is your favorite activity?
A. Betting on the Queen’s race horses
B. Riding bareback whilst in private but riding side-saddle if invited to hunts (loving the fence jumping!)
C. Spending time at bankruptcy courts
D. Taking decorum lessons from a royal-approved woman, or Paul Burrell
E. Learning the names of small British design houses.


You are an American. You think you are brilliant, better than everybody else, and have no friends or family. You lie about how many weddings you attended in which you said “I do.” You are ashamed of your background, including race, and have accomplished nothing but being a bride. Somehow, you are dating the eleventh in line to a royal house, and his fourth wife. What do you do? Where should you turn to?

A. The Greek royal family is no longer royalty, and anyway, you ain’t Marie-Chantel Miller with her family billions
B. Look elsewhere than Princess Stephanie of Monaco’s son, sired by a circus clown
C. Ask the National Enquier to sell your life as the next Lauren Sanchez
D. Love your Prince. He does own half the oil wells in Saudi Arabia

The Princess class in intensely intense, so intense you will never leave the house without tights, covered shoulders, two-inch court shoes, and that is just after the first hour of classes. Sign up today.
I'd have to get fabulously rich and well-connected first (pity my ancestors didn't do more in that direction - one doesn't get far with a gt grandfather who was, in youth, a dead-ringer for the Artful Dodger, later a drunken driver of a horse cab who did 3 months for theft).

After that, Id have to learn to ride properly (too many of my childhood attempts at jumping ended with my lying flat on my back, staring up at the nostrils of a hired pony).

Apart from the bankruptcy courts, I'd be wildly enthusiastic about the other activities, were I 18 again. In which case, I'd say `Where do I sign?'

Thank you, Yankee Doodle, for such a brilliant idea.

Meanwhile, I've already got my own `prince' whom I love dearly.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Today's web funniest reaction to Sussexes inappropriate online counselor post:

"Welcome to the Online Sussex School of Medicine!" accompanied by a pic of Megsy in white doctors outfit with a stethoscope.

And two Sussex simpletons think they can manipulate these people? Ha!
Animal Lover said…
@SwampWoman

Perhaps she should have said "learn to code!"

Ha Ha best comment of the day!
CookieShark said…
People who argue that MM wasn't "treated well" or given a "fair shake" seem to forget she was granted privileges reserved for married-ins when she and Harry were still engaged. They were given a multi-million dollar wedding and patronages. They were granted titles.

If it is true MM was sent packing for trying to photograph "off limits" areas of KP, Harry never should have been allowed to marry her in a big wedding. This was the chance the RF had to state MM was not following protocol, and it would not be tolerated. If the pictures story is true, it's unfortunate indeed, since it appears to have made MM more brazen in her disrespect.

I think the Sussex IG appeared without warning, just like the "we're stepping down" statement. Early on I think there was an attempt to control what was posted, but I think they've given up now.
Sadie Sunshine said…
@nutty ... You asked where you Eugenie and Jack are. As of a week ago, they were in London, per the person I know who is close with them.

They were tight-lipped about H&M, so my source didn't get any intel, other than a comment about how the royal family wasn't happy with "how it was done" and a general feeling there's a general estrangement between the family and Harry. Likely, HMTQ has been firm with family members not to discuss the matter, as usually they're willing to share a bit more freely. (For instance, the person I know was told in December that H&M were leaving the royal family.)

Sadly, I don't have much info for Nutties this time around. It appears that the royal family is locking down the circle of trust!
@Sadie Sunshine, I haven't been around much lately, but have been wanting to thank you for your intel!
Piroska said…
@lizzie said True. I'm sure many if not all laws can be changed by Parliament. But once Charles is King, realistically how could it be changed to avoid Beatrice serving as a counselor of state? I was thinking more on the lines of the possibility of removing Harry since I have nothing against the York girls indeed Princess Eugenie graduated from the university in my home town. There was an article in the Daily Express quoting a Nigel Cawthorne who believes that BP would have to go to H on bended knee to get him to come back if needed as Counsellor of State. The paper conducted a poll the results showed that 88% of those voting do not want him back.

Some of us here in the North of England have been wondering why Madam and her husband omitted from the list of names for mothers the words Mam and Mammy - most of the population here would not say Mummy regarding that as being form those namby-pamby Southerners. Both words are also used in other areas of the UK like Wales and Northern Ireland also Eire.
Ozmanda said…
Those with the level of exhibition narcissism that Sparkles and Hazmat have are psychologically unable to deal with having no attention. They also exhibit the signs of social upward comparison - on forensic psychology this basically means those who are used to a certain level of lifestyle work to gain attention/approval/acceptance from those they consider "higher" on the social standing.

Example - Haz being "friends" with rihanna, Britney, and numerous celebs before Sparkles, and them both Velcroing themselves to beyonce, serena, vogue editors etc etc. Their psychological tolerance means unless they achieve thislevel they will never be satisfied. Their actions lead to all of these traits, and the fear for me is just how far they will go. Sparkles one trump card now is archie. I see the fact there are limited photos and information as her thinking by doing this the public will be so hungry for his appearance they can get top dollar. She constantly releases tidbits to the media when there are others within the royal family who will get some attention.

I have no clue if they are in Canada - I would be surprised if they were, I actually think if they are together they are wanting to base in LA and will do whatever they can to make that happen. The problem here is while Hazmat will always have a security details due to his classification as a internationally protected person, she wouldn't have that same level. She would have some protection but not at the same level - this in itself would make her wigs twitch, I truly think she still believes she is the most famous and popular of the royal family. I also lack synmpathy for her dishcloth husband. I think he has been a part of this plan with her and now feels incapable of getting out of it.

Rant over:)
Rainy Day said…
Very sorry to see that The Crowns of Britain blog, which I always found hilarious and irreverent, is taking a (hopefully short) break due to the online abuse they’ve received.
CatEyes said…
@YankeeDoodle

Love your Princess Test...too funny!!!!
Flangalina said…
Sorry I just had to pipe up as is this funny or not?

On the the telephone to a friend chatting all things covid19 my friend let’s a a long sigh,me thinking she is going to say something profound waits for her to speak,what came was something of a surprise “do you think the world got markled or has the planet markled them?
Eh?? I was for once lost for words!
FrenchieLiv said…
BREAKING NEWS
Prank with Harry PART 2 will be online (January 22 2020) in 4 hours!

This might explains why the Sussex were unusually silent ..


The animation is weird…. Meghan is sitting on a sofa and is shooting at Harry while he is on the phone and paparazzi are waiting for them outdoor.
What does it mean????
CatEyes said…
@FrenchieLiv said...

>>>Prank with Harry PART 2 will be online (January 22 2020) in 4 hours!<<<

Do you know what the link will be so we can watch the video? Thank you!
FrenchieLiv said…
@CatEyes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfH_6aMFb9c
:-)
Fahlina Speaks said…
No, they've always been in the UK, never Canada. The shots were all filmed in the UK.They live in the former BBC offices that Soho House took over as a creative live/ work/ play space. What you're watching is like a movie. The whole Harry/Meghan relationship started election day 2016 in the States. It was to be a continuation of the Obama/Clinton agenda, pushing forth globalism, and facilitating Hillary joining the US to the Commonwealth. They never thought she would lose. She did and the Resistance started. What you are seeing with Old Meg and Harry is part of that. They are continuing on as if nothing had happened with Brexit and the US, and still pushing the agenda. She wanted the wedding. The all seeing eye on her wedding tiara was a big hint. It's not real and it was made for this purpose. It wasn't Mary's. There's so much more, but it's basically an arrangement made to further a certain political agenda, namely leftism/ communism/ globalism; whatever you wish to call it. The royal family are in on it as is the EU, and politicians/ intelligence ops on both sides of the pond. That was the original goal though: foster relations with the US/UK to get people excited about the USA joining the Commonwealth under Clinton. Harry was their most popular royal/ soft diplomat at the time and they thought they would appeal to the young. Obviously it all went to pot with flawed players involved. And yes, Markle is a deep state player. Also, Archie does not exist, that is all an act, but they needed a tie to hold the US/ UK together when these two break up, which will be soon. No telling who they will use in that role, but they will find a child. Hope this helps.
Fahlina Speaks said…
Another quick note: Soho House is a hub of intelligence operators, many belonging to the CIA/ MI. Many in Hollywood/ Actors from the UK, sports and music industries serve their roles for these groups, helping to further agendas on their behalf.
Ozmanda said…
Ummm..soho house isn't a hub of intelligence operators, and the fact you mention CIA/MI is incorrect in its terminology and indicates lack of factual knowledge. Oh yeah Markle is only a deep player in her own drama. Those two are of little value in this arena, except for any possible connections, which is really not work the risk involved.
Jdubya said…
I'm curious @MiMi - if you don't care, why are you here?

@Fahlina Speaks is just plain off the wall.
Forgive me if I am repeating what others have written here. But word is the Harkle family (with Archie) will grace (*sarcasm) the cover of Vogue in May. Get out your sick buckets.
Jdubya said…
the Charlatan Duchess https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/

has a new post about them appearing in Vogue May2020 and Vanity Fair cover story. Already shot with Archie even in it.
Meowwww said…
So...I posted a comment on the SussexRoyal Instagram, deriding the whole online counseling thing. Got a few positive from people who are genuine counselors with all the schooling. I got 100+ of sugars accusing me of attacking MM and H. It’s amusing. Th3 comments that I am a loser, I don’t know real life, etc.
Meowwww said…
Oh and I am told I am a commoner. Ok. Ugh.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Meowwww:

You got told you "don't know real life" for pointing out people can't just become "mental health counsellors" through an ONLINE course?

Okay.
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning! Interesting to see that the second half of the "Greta" prank is coming out. I will put up a new open post when it does to discuss.
Fifi LaRue said…
Megan's mars is n the 12th house, the house of secrets. Even her father knew nothing about his daughter.
Just think: Harry knows jacksh!t about Meghan.


But, the RF knows all. They are not stupid.

Harry is a cocaine addict. Just listening to his rambling talk on the fake Greta news was enough to confirm Harry's current or past addiction. Cocaine addicts are unable to contain their speech. That's the big clue.
Jdubya said…
just looking at the time posted above. 8:20 am and it is 12:57 am here. I've been reading - started a new book - The Lying Game by Ruth Ware. Starting off to be good. But break time to check for the Part 2 and then to bed
Nutty Flavor said…
It's now a bit past 0700 in London - this blog is set to EET! - and the new "Greta" video has been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfH_6aMFb9c

I've put up a new open post to discuss.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Jdubya:

Looks intriguing: https://ruthware.com/books/the-lying-game/

I'd be good at that game, I think (Not that I'm a sociopathic pathological liar, I'm just good at keeping secrets lol).
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Meghan would not be very good at it, she'd sell the story to the DM 😂😂

She just wasnt born into the paradoxically-discreet world of public service.

Hell I think she keeps forgetting she married into a life of public servants essentially. That's the problem.
Jdubya said…
Yum, it was 14 minutes as Harry was on a conference call with others about the UK media. interrupted it to talk to them and it was basically just a repeat of talking about Trump/Boris, the press and how he & Megs are the 1st 2 people to stand up to the bullying. And a comment about people in Russia talking about bringing back the Russian monarchy and them suggesting Harry be involved.

Flangalina said…
Hi,Nutty
Longtime lurking sporadic posting.
I would like to address the comments on the drug use.My longtime knight and yes he wears shiny armour lol has moved in Harry’s circles and still has connections.PH is widely known to have a “taste”for class A’s his favourite tipple being “sniffy stuff” it’s was rumoured widely this stepped up as he got closer to RMM.
RMM also likes the nose candy there are pictures of her out there with suspicious powder in the corner of her nose and she does love”going to the ladies room ALOT ! (Maybe she has a weak bladder)lol. She has holding friends who help her.
It was pointed out if you look closely at the pictures of her in that blue dress her pupils are betraying her and so is her over acting.
She has a hold on Harry in more ways than one,at the function with Ross Kemp she was seen whispering to Harry for sometime which Harry hung his head down and was very red he looked like she was about to put him in time out! His whole demeanour changed and he avoided a certain beautiful blonde female in the room.
In certain circles she is nicknamed “The Spanker” as she always looks like she wants to spank him lol.You can see she is desperately trying to hold it together in the picture with Harry with his legs up laughing whilst the others are trying not too cringe!
PH has always had a self intitled spoilt brat personality,when he was learning to fly apaches he just couldn’t grasp the machanics of it and had “no feel” so to the outrage of the other training pilots PH got intense tutoring as “we must get the spare in the air”.
When he was with his army buddies partying he would not put his hand in his wallet his air of grandness made him believe he was a Prince of the realm why should he pay much to the annoyance of his poorly paid buddies.
So you see PH was ripe for the picking by the raging Narcissist RMM, and boy did she Love Bomb him though it was noticed by all she loved the sound of her own voice was equally tight,liberal with the truth and loved too embellish stories of how kind and wonderful she was.
It was soon apparent that her I’m sweet and kind persona was faux as the tantrum she threw when she was denied an account at coutts the royal bank,whispers have it HMTQ got wind and it was NO.
The rest is all history but as she tightened her grip on Harry the more distant and difficult he became she would encourage him to disappear for days no contact rumours abound to party no less.
Are they in Canada whispers say she is visiting her mother who is being investigated by Scotland Yard He is at the Russian connected to Putins House,Proberbly sulking speaking to RMM on the phone at least 20 times a day!

Have I said too much...Nah she’s as transparent as a window lol she knows it too deeply insecure she sometimes over acts to compensate the fact she thinks everyone can see straight through her!

Thank you Nutty for this blog it takes your mind of the ills of the world,stay safe people look after yourselves and loved ones x

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