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Meg (and possibly Harry) move to Los Angeles

Amid the avalanche of new Coronavirus developments in the media this morning - and images of people all around Britain applauding NHS employees for their devotion to Coronavirus patients - comes the news that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have moved "permanently" to Los Angeles.

According to PEOPLE magazine, they are "living in a secluded compound and haven't ventured out."

California was always the Sussexes' ultimate destination: nobody ever really believed that their move to Canada was permanent, probably not even the local women's charities Meg used for photo ops a month or two ago.

All that was in question was the timing. And even though Meg reportedly told her ubiquitous "friends" who then told the media that she wouldn't return to the US while Donald Trump was president, that promise (like so many other promises) has been left behind in the service of expediency and publicity.

Why now?

According to the Sun's Dan Wootton, who seems to have become one of Meg's preferred mouthpieces, the couple arrived in Los Angeles last week, "taking a private jet before the borders were shut."

Fleeing a safe and isolated island home to fly to one of the the USA's corona hotspots would seem to be a bit counter-intuitive, particularly as parents to a young and vulnerable baby.

According to Dan, the Sussexes made the move because "they have a big support network there. It's where their new team of Hollywood agents and PRs and business managers are based. Meghan has a lot of friends there and, of course, her mum Doria."

The real reasons

It seems more likely, however, that whomever really owned the Vancouver Island house probably wanted it for his own quarantine purposes (Coronavirus is becoming a problem in Russia) and hadn't expected the Sussex's 6-week "thinking period" beginning in November to last until late March.

The fact that the Sussexes' Royal credentials (and eligibility for Canadian security assistance) will be running out in four days was no doubt also a factor.

Their visa status in Canada is also unclear. 

Meg's movie promotion

Meghan, at least, has a project to promote in California: a voiceover on a new Disney documentary about elephants

In a Twitter announcement, Disney+ wrote "Disneynature's Elephant, an Original Movie narrated by Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, starts streaming April 3, only on #DisneyPlus."

How much promotion she can actually do, however, is in question. Streaming movies generally don't get gala premieres, and even if they did, much of Hollywood is shut down at the moment. 

Meg could do interviews, but they would probably be done by telephone or Skype in these Coronavirus times, and she could have done that from anywhere. 

Harry, meanwhile, has absolutely nothing to do in California. 

Oprah, who appears to be his one business contact, is also in quarantine


Are they together?

Which raises the question - are the three (or two) Sussexes together?  The Sussexes' weak social media contribution to the NHS clapping campaign - a black background with yellow clapping emoji - raises questions.

All three Cambridge kids were shown clapping. Wouldn't this have been a great time to show off Archie?  

Not doing so raises the usual questions - do they not have custody of him? Does he have (what is to them) an embarrassing disability? Does he exist at all?

Charitably, one could assume that there is perhaps an exclusive contract to show Archie off on the cover of Vogue US or Vanity Fair. 

But then why not post a photo of Meghan and Harry clapping? There's nothing exclusive about them, and they clearly own a camera-enabled mobile phone. 

Maybe Meg didn't have access to a hairdresser, but then hey, wear a hat or use a filter, or accept that being a bit messy in this situation would make you look accessible or even likable. It's the thought that counts. 

Unless, of course, they couldn't be photographed together because they aren't together, and perhaps Harry (who would have no special visa status in the US) isn't in California at all.

What do you think?



Comments

CatEyes said…
@charade said...

>>>That lack of manners and deference makes her look like she grew up with wolves.<<<

That's rich, lol

Personally I think she was raised by a wolverine (the most vicious animal even beyond bears) and a Black Mamba snake (an aggressive highly poisonous snake).
Sandie said…
The following is an interesting mix:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1620783/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

In this bio it states that Markus Anderson introduced her to Harry.

If you go to publicity listings, you will notice that she did not get noticed until she started dating Harry:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1620783/publicity?ref_=nmbio_sa_2
WalkHumbly said…
Good morning, @Nutty! You make great points about the Harkles escaping Canada because of taxes: “ my favorite piece was about how the Sussexes ran to Los Angeles to avoid double taxation on their ’income’.”

Regular (“normal”) hard working, tax-paying Americans (and I’m sure “normal” people around the globe) don’t take kindly to those who have the ability to “escape” paying taxes. We all try to pay as little as possible, but most of us pay our fair share. We know the tax story is just an excuse, as if everyone can’t see straight through it, but even the excuses for leaving Canada are offensive. They want to make a billion pounds and live wherever they like, and benefit from each country, but not pay back what they owe, letting others continue to pay for them. It’s utterly time deaf but I’m sure they have no thought for the actual “normal” citizens of each country.
KCM1212 said…
Would Frogmore be considered joint property?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Ava C

The point is he doesn't want to break away. He thinks he is right and everybody else is wrong.

The article by rebecca english is very telling in more than one way. While they were members of the royal family protected by the royal machine, she was writing flowery sycophantic pieces about Megsy, going as far as calling him "duchess of Sussex's husband". Now some invisible hand lifted restrictions on insider interviews about what really went behind the scenes, and we have her writing a very different article.

We will see more. Every time sussexes try to get publicity they want a piece will appear to show the true state of things.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@KCM1212

Frogmore is owned by the nation as part of the historic royal estate and managed on its behalf by the Crown. Its use was granted to Sussexes but not the ownership.

I am not even sure what properties Harry has in his own name in UK.
lizzie said…
@CatEyes wrote

>>>The Sussex's already have community property. Harry has at least a whopping amount (est. $500,000) from the JP Morgan speech and Meghan's SA fees ($250 K); Harry having earned twice as much. That's just for beginners..<<<

I'm not sure we know exactly what M earned in SA (before ever uttering a peep about leaving the royal family to be able to earn money) or even what JH earned for whining to bankers about his dead mother. But assuming M earned 250K, would that have been taxable to her as income in the US? (I assume she's filing Married, filing separately.) If not, how can it be part of their "community property" in CA, a part that was derived from her earnings? If she hasn't been paying the taxes that she should have, it seems that would be a behind the scenes lever the RF could use against her.

Given the unconfirmed reports that PC has been giving them gobs of money all along from his personal funds in addition to the Duchy money, it sounds like H&M spend money like crazy (although I guess it's possible H&M put lots of it in a secret bank account while whining for more.) But assuming a minimum of 500K + 250K of community property *right now,* IF they were to divorce right now, would M be entitled to 1/2 of that amount in a community property split even if it had already been spent? And not spent on tangible property that could be split? What if money had been put into their new-fangled "charity" to shield it from income taxes? That's the sort of thing I'm not getting.
DesignDoctor said…
Is anyone else enjoying the delicious irony that the HAMS carefully-laid plans and events surrounding their Hollywood entrance (AKA "premiere") have been sidelined by the corona or "crown" virus?

As many Nutties have often written, "Ths Crown" always wins!

@Fairy Crocodile I believe the attendance at Wimbledon with Kate and Pippa babysitting Rach with smiles on their faces occurred after the Charlotte incident. More proof of our dear Kate's professionalism.

Her video of her three darling children waving for NHS workers was so heartwarming! Really brilliant!
xxxxx said…
fwiw--- I highly doubt that Megs slapped Charlotte. With the tense run up to her wedding, Megs probably spoke harshly to the little girl, who then burst into tears. Katherine was hardly pleased with this (deserved? undeserved?) discipline doled out by Megsy.
WalkHumbly said…
@Nelo “ How was the move of their US relocation received in the US?”

Most people I know haven’t paid much attention to the Markle fiasco, and don’t really care. The magazine covers I’ve seen in the checkout line, from magazines like Us Weekly, may be all the news most people see, and I don’t imagine people give the stories much thought. There have been some negative headlines that you’d see in the checkout line, like MM telling HMTQ to “drop dead”.

She wasn’t well known before she got married. I’ve heard several people say that when they saw photos of Harry’s wedding, they didn’t know who the girl was. I imagine there are some entities who will give her some work, but then when they get the negative publicity for it, they’ll realize she’s toxic. She wasn’t known before and is now just gossip magazine fodder.

I am surprised that Vogue would do a story on her, since Wintour said she wasn’t invited to the Gala. Maybe the editors think she will draw attention to the mag, even if it’s negative.

Someone posted earlier that narcs are agents of chaos, and we can remember that when we are confused by her conflicting stories. She feeds on any attention. The best way to get her to go live “privately” is to ignore her. I’ve personally had enough of her media presence and from comments, it looks like many feel the same way.

I just want the pain they’ve caused to Harry’s grandmother and to the rest of his family, and to his country (!), to be healed. What kind of cruelty does it take to hurt people who love you so? His true character is being revealed, and it’s shameless. Hopefully, he can still rehabilitate himself from this.
WalkHumbly said…
I read somewhere that narcs typically end up more and more alone as they age. In spite of her cruelty, I do pity her in the end. When these dreams don’t pan out, Harry is going to have a hard fall and I hope he is capable of self analysis and remorse, eventually. She may not be capable of ever realizing what she’s done to herself, much less to others, but I think she is definitely insecure inside and will be miserable without much hope as she grows older, because there isn’t a lot of hope for redemption in such people.
SirStinxAlot said…
@Cat Eyes... I 100% believe the reason they wanted to keep Frogmore cottage was for tax purposes. If FC is the "permanent residence" which was announced by BP about a year ago it would effect their divorce in California. If they are permanent resident of UK with their home being in California, UK would take presidency. Many celebrities and wealthy people have multiple homes in different countries. Only one can be your " permanent residence" though. When filing taxes it helps with reducing payments in other areas. It is unknown exactly how much the RF pay in personal taxes also.
My mother has been with the IRS for over 20 years. She tried to explain it to me.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@xxx

Perhaps you are right. But Charlotte can do slightly naughty things, her sticking her tongue out at the press proves it. Do you remember her:"And YOU are not coming" remark?

I find it quite possible she did something that irritated the Kween of Chunga Changa and she handled the kid roughly, perhaps grabbing her hand and telling her off, thus making the kid cry.
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CatEyes said…
@Lizzie said...

>>> But assuming M earned 250K, would that have been taxable to her as income in the US? (I assume she's filing Married, filing separately.) If not, how can it be part of their "community property" in CA, a part that was derived from her earnings?<<<

On the prior page I copied from a Calif atty site exactly what is considered 'community' versus 'separate property'. It is an extensive list.

Community property does not have to do with her tax status. It solely hinges on earned money after the date of marriage. Thus her SA earnings as Harry's speech income are considered community property according to CA law IMO..
KCM1212 said…
I love the hat story. Not only does MM not wear a hat, she apparently styled her hair with the KitchenAid. After smoking a couple fat ones.

What kind of a dope gets a trip with the Queen wrong? She can't even figure out whether she should get in the car first. Twice. After ignoring the directions from the aides and walking in front of the Queen.

And not being invited again was racism, I'm sure.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Walk Humbly

You are a very generous and forgiving person I think. After what I saw I deny Harry's capability of analyzing and admitting mistakes, even less his apologizing and making amends. No, previous reports of his tantrums make me believe he would rather blame the world for his own failures indefinitely.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@KCM1212

Love your comment!

Indeed, had she worn the hat we would have never had an opportunity to see the sorry state of her own hair. As somebody said "Internet is forever, b***ch", and no amount of plastic surgery and wigs will remove the cringy photo of Megsy with a bird nest on her head cosying up to the queen.

Whatever they do will backfire. In the name of justice.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Ava C said...
Could well be this Disney voiceover was the first and last job of any significance Meghan gets in her post-royal life, and she only got THAT when she was still royal.
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CookieShark said…
I wonder what she was like while she was on Suits. Has she always behaved badly?

Didn't someone in her family say they didn't trust her with little kids? That gives me chills.

I have read from multiple posters that she can be very mean. I can believe that she hissed or snapped at Charlotte. I can see Kate being done with MM after that. Maybe Charlotte said she wanted tights with her dress!
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Anonymous said…
I find this focus on not following the rules interesting. It was obvious from the beginning that Markle hated the protocol, although being an obsessive royal watcher, she can’t have been obvious to the amount of do’s and don’ts. But then all she saw were the adoring crowds and her little narc heart went pitty-pat. This is also what I think the social media does for her. She thinks all those clicks represent the adoring crowds, when I’m dead sure they are from a certain, limited demographic. Which works for her had she been a 24-year-old- Kardashian. The Karsashians know what they are doing. They stumble now and then when their greed outstrips their smarts, but it’s rare. Markle? It’s ALL GREED ALL THE TIME. There is nothing intrinsically star power about her. Which is why she went shopping for a prince.

What if part of her allure for Harry is that she disdained the rules? What if Harry was sick of not being able to scamper about in Nazi regalia drinking champagne at eight in the morning and consorting with hookers on a regular basis? What if the Queen or Philip said to him, you must stop this nonsense and start behaving like a royal. I think that his behavior of the last few months displays a real anger toward his family, and I think its targeted at the Queen. His father seems like a total pushover. His brother has washed his hands of him (rumors of William not letting Harry around the kids because of his use of alcohol and drugs rings very true). Philip has ice running through his veins and would have closed that door, good riddance to bad rubbish. But the Queen is very about family. Moving to the states and shunning the family at her time of life hurts her the most. They couldn’t just lie low in the U.K, leading a quiet life per their alleged aspirations? Nope because it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. They are despicable.
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makescakes said…
There's a new article over at the Squib! :) https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/entertainment/36304-meghan-markle-narrates-elephant-movie-for-disney.html
brown-eyed said…
@Elle @lizzie

I recall much discussion about who has to pay child support when some extended, nasty child custody cases were in process. Bottom line was: whoever is listed on the birth certificate is the legal and must pay child support father. It was described as settled law. It applies even if a DNA test proves a man is not related to the child.

I remember this so clearly because it seemed unreasonable to me and father’s groups were publicizing the law as unfair. Probably in California, if I remember correctly.
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I definitely read that it was `slapped' not `slapped down', whether or not that was a misprint may be another matter.

This, however, appears on JerseyDeanne:

https://jerseydeanne.com/2018/12/28/nasty-remarks-to-princess-charlotte-2/

"Being referred to in the comments is IMO that she supposedly called Charlotte “possessed” during the dress fitting situation.

That may be it. But Markle is such a fool who knows what else she may have said and thought there would be no consequence. LOL

Narcs have no normal human feelings (well, jealousy desire for revenge but otherwise nil), so they are very bad at assessing how their behavior is…"

A clear case of psychological projection? If anyone is `possessed by demons' it's MM.

I can well imagine a small child not standing still during efforts to pin the hemline to the right level - I used to hate it. Perhaps that's why one person commenting (in the Sun?) about the to-do said the hemline of the skirt was very uneven. I haven't checked it myself but, were I Duchess C, I'd be damned if I'd have (had it) taken it up properly after that. Serve Bridezilla right.

Also floating around, when I tried to check this out, was speculation that MM hates and/or is jealous of Charlotte because she went to Pippa's wedding but MM didn't; also that Charlotte is such a cutie she would steal MM's thunder on any occasion you care to mention.

What do you think, as Nutty would say?
Another thought about security:

Were they paying for their own safety, the heavies would be answerable to them alone and they could hide anything.

If UK/PC are paying, I'd expect the RPOs to be reporting to their employer(s), above the heads of the Harkles, so more is known about them in London than there would be otherwise.
@ Wild Boar Battle Maid: OMG - what kind of person actually slaps a small child? I knew that Meghan made Kate cry, but I never knew why. What a horrible person.

Canadian here. I've been reading the DM stories about the Dumbartons' security. Now that Canada is no longer paying for their security (thank heavens!), the only security they have are the RPO, paid for by the long-suffering British taxpayer. However, RPO's are not allowed to carry guns, not even in California, where carrying weapons is a necessity for security officers. So the Dumbartons have two options: hire their own security people and pay for them themselves (and we have learned how they hate to dig into their own pockets) or have public protection.

The US law is similar to Canadian law, which is that the state is required to provide security for Internationally Protected Persons but not for mere celebrities, which is why Canada is off the hook as of March 31. The only way the Dumbartons can get publicly funded security is by making a special appeal to ... wait for it.... President Trump! Yup, the man Meghan called misogynistic and snubbed at the state dinner, and the one Harry said has blood on his hands.

No matter how you feel about the POTUS, it's not the brightest idea to publicly insult someone you may later need to ask a favour from.
Hikari said…
If Meg had lifted a hand to Charlotte and hit her with physical force, I can well imagine the incandescent rage from Charlotte’s father. Even though it was the 11th hour, if the queen permitted a $42 million Wedding spectacle in white in her church to a woman who physically abused her great granddaughter, she is out to lunch.

It would certainly explain William’s frostiness to the Duck-a$$ if he’s forced to appear publicly with the woman that hit his little girl over a dress hem. I always thought there was a bit more than postpartum hormones and all these stories about MM making Kate cry...That would’ve been released by Meg’s PR to attempt to portray Kate as weak, too emotional and threatened by MM’s American get shit done mentality.

Well, will you may have been forced by granny to stand up there at the wedding day for the optics, but his refusing to affix his name to the wedding register speaks volumes. I’m sure Meg’s animosity hardened then...giving rise to the Rose Hanbury rumor mill and all the digs in print about Kate’s coldness. I know it’s not the BRFs way to dignify hurtful press with a riposte, But with Meg I wish they would make an exception. If they had made sure it got out into the public domain about Meg hitting Kate’s child, she would have lost most of her defenders instantly.

Narrating a Disney elephant documentary is a far cry from the show business triumph Megsy had envisioned for herself. I wish Bob Iger had told Harry straight out “We’re not really interested in Meghan but we’d love for *you* to narrate an elephant documentary for us.” Wouldn’t Harry have been a logical choice for an elephant project? Elephants have been his thing for years, and he is, you know, the Royal one. He can read, and his voice is decent. I can hardly imagine the kind of over right over dramatic reading Meg is going to give us
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Ava C said...
Could well be this Disney voiceover was the first and last job of any significance Meghan gets in her post-royal life, and she only got THAT when she was still royal.
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@Barbara from Montreal

I am still waiting for the great humanitarians to express their gratitude for the hospitality of the Canadian people. Canada paid millions in their security already.

Unlike the long-suffering UK taxpayer Canadians didn't have to pay. It was a goodwill gesture of a Commonwealth country that was taken for granted by the Dumbartons.

I feel so angry because Harry put the finely tuned commonwealth cooperation and relations under threat with his unthinking behavior. Brat.
Jdubya said…
If Megs had physically slapped Charlotte with Kate present - i have no doubt Kate would have jumped on Megs and beat the crap out of her. The RPO's would have stepped in too. They would've pulled Charlotte out of the wedding. In fact, i doubt there would have been any presence of the Cambridge's at the wedding. She may have yelled at Charlotte, shook her finger in Charlotte's face but slapped her? I don't believe it.

April 1st is going to be interesting. I'm sure they have some type of "coming out" planned. An appearance somewhere. The virus is certainly throwing a wrench in to their plans. No personal appearances (maybe something taped?). Online interview (let's go live with Meg).

Harry will be way out of his element in LA. I grew up there. He has no clue. Only fantasies of what it is really like.
JHanoi said…
MM is probably really jealous of Charlotte because she’s a ‘blood’ princess and if they had stayed, MM probably would have been required to bow to her LOL
Mischief Girl said…
The Royal Family Channel has uploaded a video notification that the Harkles have moved to California permanently. The comments are scathing! I certainly hope that is an official channel and that whoever moderates it (or whatever the terminology is) can get back to the Powers That Be that we great unwashed are sick to death of the Sussexes.

Also, I'm waiting for proof positive to hear the Harkles have repaid the British government for the cost of refurbishing Frogmore. I certainly hope that doesn't get forgotten!

CatEyes said…
@Elle said.....
>>>I guess I don't see $250K and $500K as something to fight over since it's long gone, and I sincerely doubt she'd be getting much spousal support, but I'm not going to argue it.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I Was Not arguing AT All. I don't appreciate the snark! I was commenting on this because of the comment that there was "no Community property'.

BTW I don't just source information I also have what is know as Direct Knowledge. I point out the difference and when I have an opinion which is based on my knowledge generally.
CatEyes said…
@ SirStinxAlot said…
>>>I 100% believe the reason they wanted to keep Frogmore cottage was for tax purposes. If FC is the "permanent residence" which was announced by BP about a year ago it would effect their divorce in California. If they are permanent resident of UK with their home being in California, UK would take presidency.<<<

I can't respond as I have no clue what UK law is. How would the UK authorities believe Harry is a resident of the UK if he is domiciled in another country and is not ever living in Frogmore?

If Meg filed for divorce 1st in Calf. after establishing residency and Archie is with her I believe the CA Ct. would have jurisdiction. Harry could contest it if he has Archie part of the time.

My comments were about Family Law with respect to community property versus separate property not tax status. My remark regarding residency yesterday was also with respect to Family Law not Tax law.

Regulations, Rules and Guidance Documents for US Tax law are different than Calif. Family law statutes, definitons, rules and guidelines.



Seabee666 said…
I don't think their plan to go global megabrand is going to pan out. The Disney deal cost Iger his job. Studio heads are not going to risk that kind of backlash for what? Casting an aging no-talent yacht girl? Inviting Harry to mumble about his oedipal problems? The youth market know they are eco villains not warriors. All rational royal watchers think they are gross trash. Their only fans seem to be some rabid, murderous, foul mouthed instagrammers.They a) libeled an entire country as racists and b) used and abused the tax payers of another commonwealth country as part of a game, it's over. RF knows they've gone too far. All this during Brexit, Covid, decline of Philip, Andrew scandal. They will be stripped of Sussex and allowances. Windsors are ruthless when their backs are against the wall. They do what it takes to survive. Cambridges will not be taken down. Another 100 years of the monarchy rides on them. King William and Queen Catherine are coming.
Piroska said…
For tax purposes in UK if you are resident you pay tax on all income no matter where it arises if not resident you pay tax on UK income.
Whether you’re UK resident usually depends on how many days you spend in the UK in the tax year (6 April to 5 April the following year).

You’re automatically resident if either:

you spent 183 or more days in the UK in the tax year
your only home was in the UK - you must have owned, rented or lived in it for at least 91 days in total - and you spent at least 30 days there in the tax year

You’re automatically non-resident if either:

you spent fewer than 16 days in the UK (or 46 days if you have not been classed as UK resident for the 3 previous tax years)
you work abroad full-time (averaging at least 35 hours a week) and spent fewer than 91 days in the UK, of which no more than 30 were spent working. I worked in Tax Office for years investigating those attempting to evade tax

One trivial point - this has been driving me crazy not only on Nuttys contributors Katherine is the Duchess of Kent - the Duchess of Cambridge is Catherine. I know it's being petty I'm sorry but it does irritate me
Sandie said…
I doubt the story that Meghan was paid 250 000 dollars for a speech/appearance in South Africa. In South African terms that is a huge amount of money. Plus, South Africa does not have that kind of culture. What may happen is that you pay a huge amount for a ticket to a dinner, usually with a politician in a quid pro agreement - I donate for your campaign and you make sure I get a lucrative government contract where I can skim millions for my personal lifestyle. South Africans would not pay that kind of money to hear Meghan give a speech or meet her at a dinner/lunch. The sort of people who have that kind of money to 'donate' in South Africa (Anton Rupert, Patrice Motsepe, Cyril Ramaphosa ...) would have no interest in Meghan.

During their trip to Southern Africa no one even made a donation to one of their 'causes'. The whole trip was a PR exercise for the Sussexes, which they messed up at the end. Such a trip is supposed to strengthen Commonwealth ties, and at the time all South Africans were interested in was a post-Brexit trade deal with the UK, which the Sussexes could not deliver nor even influence in any way.
Nelo said…
@Seebeee666, Iger didn't lose his job because of Meg. He's been saying for over two years that he wants to retire and hand over to someone. So it's nothing to do with Meg.

As per getting jobs, even the most problematic people in Hollywood still get jobs. So methinks meghan will be fine. Lindsay Lohan, Lena Dunham, etc still get gigs. Most people in Hollywood are not worse than Meg and they still get jobs. So who knows, she may just be lucky.


Este said…
The Daily Mail just skewered Prince Harry today.
How Prince Harry dumped The Firm... by emailing his father and the Queen: That’s just one of the jaw-dropping revelations about the true inside story of Megxit – by the Mail’s royal editor who knew Harry so well
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8161963/Prince-Harry-dumped-Royal-Family-email-Shocking-revelations-inside-story-Megxit.html

One source told me: ‘They felt that the institution only wanted to trot them out to exploit their popularity when convenient. Otherwise it wanted to constrain because it was jealous and threatened by their popularity.’
‘Unfortunately he was just too stubborn, blinkered and bitter to see sense.’ He believed he was being forced to play second fiddle to William when it was he – and Meghan – who had the star power.

I thought these two nuggets really exposed Prince Harry as a selfish climber on par with his wife. He didn't want to play "second fiddle" to his brother, the future King. Whose jealous of who? And whose willing to torch is family when he didn't get top billing and get what he wants when he wants it. People skewer Meghan, and I don't like her either anymore but these are 2 selfish peas in a pod. They getting ready to find out they aren't the global celebrities they think they are. She's not a movie star in her own right and he's nothing without his family. They deserve the disappointment and slow fade into obscurity that's heading their way.
hunter said…
I'm with Fairy Crocodile - I had never heard the "slapped Charlotte" rumor but if so, consider she may have slapped the little girl's hand or treated her roughly in a similar "get away" sort of manner, doesn't mean she slapped Charlotte across the face.

I'm not trying to defend MM but it's worth considering what could fall under "slapped" beyond a full facial smack.
CatEyes said…
@Sandie

That $250,000 Meg alleged received was from attendees at a special event where people had to pay. I read this several places and it was reported previously on this blog. Who knows if it was true, like many things we read about them.
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hunter said…
Also @Nutty - excellent point about the paywall, I knew there was a reason it didn't seem worthwhile!
hunter said…
@CatEyes - you mentioned the provision that gives HMTQ custody over her grandchildren but not great-grandchildren.

Yes, I'm familiar with that, my claim the baby's in BRF custody is based on DD and TP commentary plus the fact she appears to have no custody of any live child.

If the BRF discovered the surrogate and the fact there was no blood relation and if HAMS truly are unhinged and despicable, it's entirely believable. It has been suggested (pure hearsay) perhaps Sophie or another side relation family is housing him under the care of a nanny.
Glowworm said…
I know we’ve discussed this DM article:
‪Megxit inside story: Prince Harry left Royal Family by email and more https://mol.im/a/8161963 via @MailOnline‬
But every time I see it pop up - and it’s still perched pretty high up on the front page - I silently snort at the two pictures they chose for it...mm in that hideous, off the shoulder pink number Cameron from Modern Family lampoons* with that stupid dinner plate sliding off the side of her head, looking up at JH with that equally stupid look on her ugly face. And, the other pic is from her pap walk with ‘archie’ the dead frog hanging out of its carrier, grinning that maniac grin/smirk. No question the MailOnline hates her guts.

*one of our fellow nutties, the clever KCM1212,, has this as pic of Cameron as her avi

🐛
Portcitygirl said…
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a31965090/meghan-markle-prince-harry-committed-another-baby/

Just saw this today
Fairy Crocodile said…
Every time the situation makes me feel like world is mad and bad is new good (especially after reading about Harkles) I listen to the following music:

Adagio and Apassionata by the Secret Garden

Anything by the child opera prodigy Amira Willenhagen (especially How Great Thy Art)

Vasary Andre Once Upon a Time in the West or his version of Ave Maria. Never fails to send goosebumps down my spine

Alternative version of Ave Maria by Michael Lorenz (especially coupled with video of Olivia Hussey as Mary). Probably one of the least known and most beautiful Ave Marias there is.

Adajio Albinoni by Hauser on cello. That is emotional and so deep I believe it is something supernatural. This link is superb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr6QnFmCXzk

Schindler's List. I cried on this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqVRcFQagtI

This version of the Lonely Shepherd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orL-w2QBiN8


All of the above is available on Youtube. Give it a go. It restores my faith and spirit.
Who,signed their wedding register? Was that information made public?
FrenchieLiv said…
@Nutties:
Some months ago, on this blog, we were discussing why Kate would have been left in tears during Princess Charlotte's bridesmaid dress fitting.
A nutty suggested that Charlotte may have been slapped by Meghan: it was an ASSUMPTION, even not a rumor (you can check if you have some time)....
Now, some posters are discussing this as a rumor. I despise Meghan and I understand we are discussing rumors and hypothesis but I think for this particular case, we should be fair and not contribute to create fake news (which would spread on the internet/other blogs as a fact)...
HappyDays said…
It may just keep getting better and better for Meghan. I just heard on the radio news that Trump is considering “closing” states that are coronavirus hotspots. Right now, he is considering closing the three contiguous states of Connecticut, New York state, and New Jersey. If this actually happens, then California can’t be far behind.

I’m not exactly sure what closing hot spot states means, but my guess is that there will be no travel across the borders with perhaps the exception of trucks hauling loads of food and other necessities.

At their core, narcissists like Meghan are massive control freaks, and even if she has no plans to travel outside of California, just the thought of none other than Donald Trump preventing her from making a run from Cali if things dissolve into rioting as more and more people fall ill, would be the ultimate in irony and karmic payback.

A gated community would not be especially protective for the Harkles because in the US, where a lot of high-firepower guns are owned by gang members who would not give a flying F**K who Meghan and Harry are.

And the weapons used by any royal security they may have guarding them would be like throwing spitballs. For a group of desperate gang members, stealing from a pair of feckless royals would give the gang members a certain amount of street cred, especially if they overwhelmed any RPOs and took trophy items that were obviously owned by H&M such as jewelry or other personal possessions.

I think this saying might end up following this pair for the rest of their lives whether they stay together or eventually go their separate ways:
Be careful what you want. You just might get it.

A second theme for the Harkles: Don’t sh!t where you eat.
CatEyes said…
@FrenchieLiv said…
>>>Some months ago, on this blog, we were discussing why Kate would have been left in tears during Princess Charlotte's bridesmaid dress fitting.
A nutty suggested that Charlotte may have been slapped by Meghan: it was an ASSUMPTION, even not a rumor (you can check if you have some time)....
Now, some posters are discussing this as a rumor.<<<

I have actually read about the alleged 'slapping incident' a few places way before I saw it mentioned here. Who knows if it is true. maybe just a rumor that has been repeated over and over.

Even if Meg merely corrected Charlotte it is not her place to do so. I would have resented some potential SIL correcting my 4 yr. old.
SwampWoman said…
HappyDays said: It may just keep getting better and better for Meghan. I just heard on the radio news that Trump is considering “closing” states that are coronavirus hotspots. Right now, he is considering closing the three contiguous states of Connecticut, New York state, and New Jersey. If this actually happens, then California can’t be far behind.

I’m not exactly sure what closing hot spot states means, but my guess is that there will be no travel across the borders with perhaps the exception of trucks hauling loads of food and other necessities.


That's pretty much the gist of it right there. Florida Gov. DeSantis has said that we are going to be putting checkpoints on I-10, I-95, perhaps US 1 as well specifically to interdict the folks fleeing the hot spots and carrying virus. I do believe that I-75 will have to be included in that although he didn't mention it specifically. I do believe that some of the states to our north are going to be putting up their own checkpoints very, very soon because they, too, have a HUGE interest in not having this continue into hurricane evacuation season.
Unknown said…
Lemon Tea here

Can someone go back and revisit the comments about borders being closed, or states going into lockdown, and cities being shutdown, and then comment about how drugs cannot bypass these lockdowns for now. Would it not be an addicts nightmare for such a thing to happen?

I see a pattern emerging here, about the Markles being way ahead , with respect to their physical address. My knowledge of such users ( from news article ) and i am no expert, is that they (the users ) circumvent systems , way before the system catches up with them.

Is this why they continue to move house? and to move away from as much authority as they can?
Just an inconsequential tidbit here, but I’ve heard that the Harkles may be hunkered down in Beverly Park, an ultra exclusive, gated community in Beverly Hills. This would make more sense than Malibu, which is not as accessible to LA because of the horrific traffic. It’s also closer to major hospitals and Dorito. From Wikipedia:

Beverly Park, divided into North Beverly Park and South Beverly Park, is a gated community in Los Angeles, California.[1][2] The wealthy neighborhood is primarily known for its concentration of large houses and its famous residents.[3] The neighborhood is located between Mulholland Drive and Sunset Boulevard and Coldwater Canyon Drive and Beverly Glen Boulevard, east of the Beverly Glen neighborhood.[4]
Henrietta said…
FrenchieLiv said: "A nutty suggested that Charlotte may have been slapped by Meghan: it was an ASSUMPTION, even not a rumor..."

I also read this allegation on the DM comment boards.

I don't think MM hit Charlotte, but I do think she made Charlotte cry by reprimanding her too severely for something age-appropriate (e.g., raising her arms [a no-no if you're trying to hem a dress] or just playing or goofing off).

In the version I read, MM went after Charlotte (verbally), Maria intervened to defend Charlotte, then MM went after Maria, and then Kate got called or pulled in, and at one point, Kate exclaimed, "This is unacceptable!" Also I believe at one point MM might have said something along the lines of, "No one is going to ruin my wedding" (as if 3-year-olds have those kinds of intentions). I strongly doubt there were any RPOs in the room because it would have only been the designer people and friends/guests of the bride who would have already been vetted. But if they had all the children in one room, that still could have been about 5 or 6 different adults who witnessed it, and it's taken two years to come out.
YankeeDoodle said…
I find it very hard to believe that M would have slapped Princess Charlotte in the face, or any part of the little girl’s body, at least in front of Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge. Personally, if I saw anybody slapping any one in my family, the slapper would have a new nose job, courtesy of me. (Maybe somebody on M’s staff had enough and thus M’s new nose job she debuted a few weeks ago?) I can see Meghan abusing the nanny, or screaming at Charlotte, or even threatening to kill either of them, or perhaps all the Cambridge children, and then say “Moi?” Princess William probably was told by her trusted, long-term nanny about Meghan. I can also see M sticking needles into Charlotte, during fittings, and protest her being found guilty. I find it unbelievable that Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, would cry over anything M said, threatened, or abused towards any of her children. Kate is a mother. No mother cries about somebody harming or threatening any ill will towards her child.


Sandie said…
@MidwesternantiMeg: Who,signed their wedding register? Was that information made public?

Charles and Doria were the only two witnesses. It was the minimum legal requirement and highly unusual for a royal wedding.

For Comparison: I think Charles and Diana had about 10 witnesses; William and Catherine had about 7 witnesses; Beatrice and Jack had about 6; the Queen and Prince Phillip had about 10; Charles and Camilla supposedly only had 2, William and Tom, but it was a second marriage for both and it was a civil ceremony.

Perhaps there were only 2 witnesses from the congregation because it was a second marriage for Meghan and her first husband is still alive but I am Church of England and I have never heard of such a rule so maybe it is a society or royal 'rule'?

Note that the archbishop would also sign but I have not included him in the above counts.

Since round about the marriage of Charles and Diana the marriage certificate and wedding register have been kept private, i.e. the royal family have been exempt from having those documents available for the public without consent.
Jdubya said…
Unknown - drugs can always bypass anything. Where there's a want, a desire - there is someone to figure it out and provide.
There are so many tantalizing and hair-raising rumors about Meghan Markle’s life—her difficult, willful personality, her days as a Yachtie, her ruthless social climbing, rumored NPD, etc., etc.. I imagine I speak for many people when I say that I long for a respected, fearless pit bull of a writer to commit his- or herself to separating fact from fiction, and get a clear-eyed, honest, no-holds-barred version of M’s story in print.

I, for one, am pinning my hopes on noted investigative journalist and biographer Tom Bower, who has hinted that his next subject will be Ms. Markle (his current project on Boris Johnson is due for publication this year). Mr. Bower is renowned for meticulous and dogged research, scathing style, and unflinching treatment of his subjects, which include several Prime Ministers (Tony Blair, David Cameron), Labor leader Jeremy Corbin, Simon Cowell, Richard Branson, and Prince Charles.

I’ve read several articles on Mr. Bower, and these quotes from a couple of New Statesman articles give me hope that he will get to the unvarnished truth about MM:

From: Tom Bower: the biographer as big-game hunter:

His trick to finding out uncomfortable truths about the rich and the powerful is to hunt down their victims – “because when they climb the greasy pole, they always hurt people” – and then persuade them to speak.

Author Conrad Black once described Bower as “sadistic” (along with a string of other invectives) – and there is a sense that he derives a special pleasure when one of his books wounds its subject.

From Conrad Black once described Bower as “sadistic” (along with a string of other invectives) – and there is a sense that he derives a special pleasure when one of his books wounds its subject

From: Tom Bower’s Diary: My Marxist past, abuse from Tariq Ali, a warning for Meghan and the demise of Today:

Markle my words:

One legacy of writing 24 books is the lingering interest in a vast range of personalities. Prince Charles was my last target. Naturally he and Camilla hated my book but the critical exposé did trigger radical changes in his behaviour that have made him more acceptable to Britons. Unfortunately, he remains powerless to order Meghan Markle, his celebrity daughter-in-law, to follow his new determination to resist controversy. Her criticism of British academia as pale, male and stale treads into dangerous territory. Appointing professors on the basis of race and gender and not excellence will destroy British academia. If she doesn’t stop pontificating and protesting, I give the marriage three years. Inevitably, she’ll then go off to write her blockbuster book. Take care, Meghan. I’ll get mine out first!
YankeeDoodle said…
I’m M the 8th I yam,
M, the 8th I yam, I yam
I am married to the idiot I met in SoHo’s door,
Even though I’ve been married (at least) 7 times before

But all of them were not a ‘enry
Cause they couldn’t make me money
Like me ‘enry
But ‘enry is not as rich as some Americans
So for now, ‘enry is just my trash can

So I will just say ‘enry
‘enry, you were the 8th
You are a loser cause you fell
For my Scams, as all the others
I stole money before

So ‘enry
You ain’t no Willie like your bro
You are just my ‘enry
a loser in my life-long scam


Fairy Crocodile said…
@Rebecca B

Did you notice a change of tone towards Harry in the British press? From "understanding" his desire for independence to "Everybody believes they were disrespectful to the Queen" as the Sun put it today. Both Sun and Mail also make it clear the duo never thought through the practicalities like visas, taxes, security and accommodation thus indirectly calling them reckless and stupid.

This is the end of Harry the military hero, Harry the good lad, Harry the favorite royal.
@ Sandie Thank you for the info. You’re right, only havng two witnesses is extremely unusual.
Miggy said…
Harry and Meghan face mounting pressure to pay their £8million taxpayer-funded security bill as a former Home Office minister warns their Los Angeles move presents further dangers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163677/Harry-Meghan-face-pressure-pay-8million-taxpayer-funded-security-bill.html
Mimi said…
Yankee Doodle 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
YankeeDoodle said…
@Mimi

Thank you. Spur of the moment, but I could not resist.
JHanoi said…
They didnt think of practical stuff because they are such self centered, egotistical, sanctimonious, obstinate, know-it-alls.

The Harkles really thought going nuclear would pressure the BRF into giving them what they wanted. To be part time royals making big money on the side.
They thought they were bigger than the Monarchy and the Monarchy needed them and their Popularity/ Charisma more than they needed the Monarchy.

When their bluff was called they couldn’t back down, plus Harry dreamed of being JH, but again didn’t think it all through and what being JH really entailed.

Crumpet said…
@Yankee Doodle!

you outdid yourself, this time! I am glad these two give you a creative outlet...
Portcitygirl said…
https://mol.im/a/8163975

Tamhsn said…
Wow! This was just posted

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164025/Kate-William-launch-5million-scheme-support-Britains-mental-health.html

MM ll be so mad that Kate and William are doing what she kept preaching on Instagram.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Este: One source told me: ‘They felt that the institution only wanted to trot them out to exploit their popularity when convenient. Otherwise it wanted to constrain because it was jealous and threatened by their popularity.’
‘Unfortunately he was just too stubborn, blinkered and bitter to see sense.’ He believed he was being forced to play second fiddle to William when it was he – and Meghan – who had the star power.

Harry and Meghan didn't hear all the boos in public places from the get go? Or how Kate and Camilla had to ride in the carriage with the Harkles at TOC? They are delusional.

Lindsey Lohan and Lena Denham have talent. Meghan has no talent.
@Rebecca B. Yes, I too am looking forward to reading an objective, factual biography of MM. the only bio out so far - the one by Andrew Morton - is a sycophantic, sugary puff piece. I'm sure that Thomas Bower would find no shortage of people who have been burned by MM. She seems to have forgotten the old adage "Be nice to people on your way up, because they're the same people you'll meet on your way down".

@Fairy Crocodile. We Canadians are not holding our breath waiting for the Harkles to thank us for our hospitality. The media is busy giving us hourly updates on the Covid-19 virus and there's nothing written or said about the Dastardly Duo: I guess the feeling is that they are irrelevant and inconsequential. However, ordinary Canadians have taken to twitter, and they are not happy. The overwhelming feeling is that we have been used and lied to.
Meowwww said…
Lindsey Lohan has talent????? Heh.
Tamhsn said…
https://www.tatler.com/article/prince-harry-meghan-markle-leave-canada-move-to-california

Nutties, read this one..lots of new and interesting information.

One excerpt:

Even in LA the Sussexes’ son, Archie, is now closer at hand for play-dates with the boy that Vitiello has had with singer Martina Sorbara – a baby born just a few months before Archie. ‘What I want to know,’ said another former pal of Meghan, ‘is why no one in the press has mentioned that Martina was such good friends with Meghan.’ Indeed, one of the last posts she put on her personal Instagram feed (before she shuttered it, along with her lifestyle blog, The Tig) was of Sorbara doing an acoustic version of I’m Every Woman, much like a serenade. Not long after that, the Toronto crowd learnt that Sorbara was pregnant with Vitiello’s child. The chef, by the way, has never gone on record to discuss anything Meghan-related. When a friend of a friend asked him about his high-profile ex returning to Canada, Vitiello only smiled beatifically and said: ‘Good for her
I'd like to add that the overwhelming feeling from us Canadians is "We got played".
Nelo said…
Wow. So meghan's ex boyfriend married her close friend.
Nelo said…
The Cambridges are really doing well. I'm happy for them
Magatha Mistie said…
@Ava C
Thanks, I’ll check out “Bitter Greens”
Kate Forsyth gave a talk at my daughters school a few years ago.

I’m wondering whether Doria will be visiting her darling daughter,
nah, she’s served her purpose?
I’m sure Doria will be moving to a fancier house in the not too distant
future, courtesy of the UK tax payers.

As for Archie, are dolls susceptible to the virus 😉
SirStinxAlot said…
Earlier, possibly a previous thread, someone mentioned Meghan showing up to a Christening for Zara's baby. The one she wore the purplish coat with giant black diamond buttons. I was randomly browsing through Pinterest (not related to duo) and saw a photo of MM giving the middle finger. Have any of you seen this? Thoughts?

https://pin.it/61XexFW
Snippy said…
The cases of Covid 19 on Vancouver Island total 60. Total number of people hospitalized with it: 3. New cases have been increasing by only 4-5 per day. The Harkles "fleeing" here for LA, which in about a week will be the new New York, is baffling, and JH's family must think he is insane.
Mimi said…
SirStinxAlot, I have seen that pic of her giving the finger and the same pic of her without giving the finger. I believe the one giving the finger was photoshopped.
Mimi said…
What a brilliant idea to come to L.A. with their baby in the midst of this pandemic! I can’t comment on these too because everything they have done and continue to do is absolutely mind boggling!!!! I am self isolating but the crisis is hitting my family hard in respect to losing jobs, etc......My “faith” took a nose dive when 3 members of my family recently( this week) lost their jobs!!!! (hard to keep a “stiff upper lip”)

Cat Eyes, you have no idea how happy I am for YOU and your brother now that he is in a same place with someone to look after him!!!!!! Bless you kiddo and hang in there!😷
Ian's Girl said…
The pic looks more to me like a Photoshop; I don't see her doing that while she's dressed like that (obviously an event of some sort) hanging on Harry's arm, likely to be photographed?


@Wild Boar Battle-Maid, thank you: I was the one who asked about the Charlotte incident.

I am going to choose to believe that Nutmeg did not lay a finger on Charlotte, because if she did, and Catherine didn't lay her ass out, I would be very disappointed in our lovely Duchess.

I could well believe the heifer got pissy and snarky and might have yelled at someone, maybe even a barely turned 3 year old. Maybe that's why we don't see pics of Uncle Harry and Auntie Megsy with the Cambridge tots?



Mimi said…
DAFE PLACE......
Mimi said…
DAM IT! SAFE PLACE! ( too many “anti ciral” drinks.🤭
Rainy Day said…
@Tamhsn said…
Wow! This was just posted
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164025/Kate-William-launch-5million-scheme-support-Britains-mental-health.html
MM will be so mad that Kate and William are doing what she kept preaching on Instagram.

That’s MM’s problem - all preaching and no follow-through. Plus, Will & Kate have the positions and connections to make things happen. MM and JH have thrown all that away.
Mimi said…
Migraine is a witch for sure but come on folks, “slapping a 3 year old little girl, the daughter of the future Queen consort”? she is stupid but not that stupid . and I have always wondered about the hot pot of tea throwing incident. I never read anything about it except for what people on here have written.
anyone got any details?
OCGal said…
Some posters here question where Harry and Meghan are getting the money to hire former Gates employee Catherine St-Laurent to head up their new charity endeavor....especially since they specialize in never spending a penny of their own money.

Well, I don't know how plugged-in and believable blogger DanjA zonE is, but she got the scuttlebutt that Harry and Meghan have already paid Catherine St-Laurent a full year's salary up front, because they still are under the aegis and funding of the British Royal Family through the 31st of March.

So, essentially, the British Royal Family or the citizens of U.K. -- and NOT Harry and Meghan -- are paying the new hire's full annual salary. That is the kind of grifting stunt Harry and Meghan would pull, so I believe DanjA zonE's intel. She states this starting at the 6 min 4 second mark on her YouTube piece from 28th March entitled "Shocking Reason Behind Harry & Meghan Making Major Moves & A Mad Dash!"

Best wishes for continued health and perseverance to all the wonderful Nutties. Better times are ahead.
YankeeDoodle said…
@Crumpet

The original song included Sam and Willie. Oh, well, second verse, same as the first,

I wish we could have laughs at the two Viruses. Why take them seriously, when the two of them are Just Plain Losers.

I hate liars and cheaters. I hate them 109 times over.

The USA State Department went nuclear over spending, along with the Secret Service and New York State police*via “Fredo” Cuomo, and New York City Police, under orders of “DeBlasio *Where is the $1 billion dollars his wife took, and outed M’s baby shower, and leaked the abusing American police services. Millions of dollars for a few days. Then the rest f the world learned about more abuses of power by the Nazi unfiorm adult/moron and his wife.

The USA will never cover the morons. It is the kiss of death to acknowledge the two deserters, much less the stupid question of even asking why Americans would spend a cent on two pecks who are leagues below the Kardashians.
Mimi said…
I know the queen has not made a public announcement, after everything that has gone on and is going on and MIGHT happen (PP) soon, I can’t blame her for saying.......”I’m DONE...you guys take over from here!”

But I will say that I applaud what everybody else in the RF, that can, have done something positive and are doing their part in these horrendous times. I think that will go a loooooong way for William and Catherine!!!!!! I think they are doing a stellar job! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Peridot said…
It has taken me a while to catch up but something caught my attention from the discussion yesterday about H&M new venture and hiring Melinda Gates' protegee. Are the couple trying to set up a new scheme like Uncle Andie had at the Palace? It sounds like the experience of the new "Chief of Staff" is in setting up incubators. Remember that Andrew's scheme called for the entrepreneurs to give up a certain percent of the profits. That's all history now, but we'll have to wait and see what form the new M&H venture presents. I will bet that it is in no way charitable, but likely a set up of matching female entrepreneurs with investors. Astounding timing of these two when the world is on the verge of a financial disaster.
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MustySyphone said…
Just want to point out MeMe slapped Harry sharply on the knee during the carriage ride with Cam and Kate at last year's TTOC.
Mimi said…
Mustysyphone, who can forget that...in front of the whole world. If Harry ever needed to back hand her that would have been the time. Knocked her right out of the carriage and have the horses trample her!
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Jdubya said…
Ah geez - take a look at Megs updated IMDB page

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1620783/


Meghan, (born Rachel Meghan Markle) is an US-born member of the British royal family and a former film and television actress. and on and on and on.
Ava C said…
Here's an opinion on Harry's visa situation that will make UK-time Nutties choke over their Sunday morning cornflakes - if they have any. From the Telegraph:

Prince Harry likely to be given diplomatic status in the United States to help him get a green card easily, expert claims

After obtaining a green card the Duke would be eligible to apply for full US citizenship in three years

The Duke of Sussex is likely to be given diplomatic status in the United States to help him get a green card easily, an expert has claimed.

Matteo Carrera, an immigration law researcher for Cardozo Law School in New York, said settling Prince Harry’s visa situation would not be difficult.

Given his wealth and status he would probably be classified as a British diplomat, entering the US on an A1 Visa.

Mr Carrera said: “With this he would have been able to enter the US and then adjust his status to a green card."

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are currently living in Los Angeles and reportedly intend to set up a permanent base there.

According to the US state department A1 visas are for diplomats and government officials. If he was not given an A1 visa the Duke could have entered the US on a simple tourist visa, and then apply for a green card, allowing him to become a permanent resident and work.

He could apply as a prominent "business man" with talents of value to the US, or as an "alien of extraordinary ability".

That would require letters of recommendation from people who have worked with him, potentially including Barack and Michelle Obama. Or, he could apply for his green card through marriage to an American citizen.

That would take around a year to be approved, although the applicant is usually granted a travel and work permit in around three months.

The Duke and Duchess would have to prove good faith in marriage through photographs, jointly-owned or rented property, joint bills, joint expenses, and affidavits from friends.

After obtaining a green card the Duke would be eligible to apply for full US citizenship in three years.

It also emerged the Duke and Duchess are keeping their "Sussex Royal" branding until the final moments this week. Under an agreement with the Queen they can no longer use the word "Royal" from March 31.

They are expected to reveal details of their next steps "early this week".
Jdubya said…
Wow she played herself at Wimbledom as a spectator. This whole thing is insane. This must be what she was doing while in Canada - updating her profile.


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Magatha Mistie said…
Don’t know about cornflakes but I choked on my G & T!
I read “alien of extraordinary inability” if so go forth X Citizen JH..
Magatha Mistie said…
@Jdubya
Wow indeed. Interesting she’s finally acknowledged being biracial
on her CV.
Even more interesting she’s acknowledged that she will no longer be known as
Duchess of Sussex, must have hurt her claws typing that!!
xxxxx said…
Snippy said...
The cases of Covid 19 on Vancouver Island total 60. Total number of people hospitalized with it: 3. New cases have been increasing by only 4-5 per day. The Harkles "fleeing" here for LA, which in about a week will be the new New York, is baffling, and JH's family must think he is insane.

The couch surfing grifters have good reasons. Their oligarch sponsored freebie lodging in Saanich BC was coming to an end within a few months. So with the current virus situation, rather than be trapped in Canada and have to actually pay out to rent something, they moved to their next couch surfing accommodation in Nonoo's Malibu, L.A., what have you. They were scheming and vegging out in Canada, now they are doing the same somewhere in the LA region.
Ava C said…
@Jdubya - thanks for IMDB lnk. Did you see that list of their 'wedding guests of note' followed by a roll call of them? Those people invited instead of her family and Harry's lifelong friends. Was she planning to use her wedding guests in this way even then? USE a religious ceremony that is meant to be the most important and meaningful day of anyone's life? Of course she did. No more words for that. There are none.

You can just imagine her beavering away over this profile in recent months. Yet the resume is no better. It's all so THIN. Who would want the world looking at THAT? When you look at profiles of young actresses, their CVs are so much better, at a far earlier stage in their careers. One of my favourites is Florence Pugh, after I saw her star in Lady Macbeth. Meghan by comparison would have only managed to play the servant opening the door for her in that film. And not even the most important servant, as she was a fine actress too.

JHanoi said…
MM was probably thinking “charlottes going to upstage me (ruin my wedding) and do something adorable like stick out her tongue “ . so she snapped at her.
she would know upstaging becuause she did that to eugenie when she announced she was pregnant
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all! I enjoyed the Cambridge's Instagram post this morning, in which William and Kate were "working from home" keeping in touch with their patronages via telephone.

The first thing I noticed in the photo was that there were no breakable knick-knacks in either image. The only ornaments visible were either metal objects or hardcover books.

Par for the course, I suppose, when you have 3 kids age 6 and under.

Compare it with shots of the Queen's quarters or Prince Charles' homes, where there are fragile little doo-dads all over the place.
Rut said…
I predict Meghan Markle is going to make postnatal depression her thing. She is going to talk about it everywhere, she is going to make a documentary about it and she is going to blame her behavior in the royal family on it and she is going to blame the press and people for not treating her nice furing this dark period of hers. Also...Harry was not a support because of his own depression. Buhu
Nutty Flavor said…
FWIW, the version of the Meghan's wedding story I heard was that she called little Charlotte a "brat."

I've never heard the slap story either, and it seems extreme.

Using the word "brat" sounds like the kind of thing a three-year-old would report back to Daddy, particularly since she probably isn't allowed to use the word herself.
@AvaC - brilliant point about `only one queen'.
Magatha Mistie said…
She said she was an “ethnic chameleon “ who couldn’t book a job.
Ah, racism again, nothing to do with the fact she can’t act.

According to wiki, & my interpretation, a chameleon is a very old lizard.
Distinguished by their bird like clawed feet, & a very extensive rapidly extendable tongue.
They have a swaying gait & independently mobile eyes ( scanning for cameras)
unless aiming at prey ( focused & coy )
Chameleons are adept at climbing, & visual hunting.

Also adept at changing colour, religion, countries, & families depending on their next prey...
If Harry gets diplomatic status does that mean the US provides security for him?
Nutty Flavor said…
@Rut

Post-natal depression only works if she has Archie to show off, or at least some good family photos.

If there's still a question about whether or not she physically gave birth to Archie, post-natal depression would be difficult positioning.
Magatha Mistie said…
But Rut
Her behaviour was atrocious before she supposedly gave birth.
Magatha Mistie said…
Also her poor me didn’t know the Queen meant me to wear a hat
doesn’t wash. She had Samantha Cohen, & others to help her.

The fact she has arrogantly disrespected the Queen, & Potus,
should surely ring alarm bells to anyone wanting to work with her,
regardless of their politics, or Royalist views.
Unknown said…
How can anyone take these fools seriously? We're in the midsts of a global pandemic where hospitals all over the world are short of medical equipment. The greasy pole climber and her handbag are delusional, people are dying but they want their security covered by someone, unbelievable self importance. Remove all money and donate it to the NHS, they chose to leave, they are responsible for their own security, they need to shut up now.


From the DM comments....
Nutty Flavor said…
Which reminds me....just in case our occasional visitors do not know, we also have a sister blog that focuses solely on the corona virus and all the events surrounding it.

It's quite interesting, because we hear personal points of view on the pandemic from all over the world - South Africa, the Netherlands, Indonesia, the UK, Canada, and everywhere in the US from Wisconsin to NYC to Florida to Texas to Washington State to California. (I apologize in advance if I've left any of our regulars out!)

https://nuttyflavorvirus.blogspot.com
Ava C said…
@Nutty - yes, I love the photo of Kate at her desk. I've found that pink trouser suit she's wearing such a comforting colour the last day or so. A perfect choice in these dark times, especially being M&S, a British company (as you pointed out earlier). When I was in hospital for long periods my mother would always wear lovely colours and soft tactile fabrics when she visited me, as she knew they would have that effect. A thoughtful and well-judged choice by Kate.

I always enjoy seeing the Cambridge's home environment when we have glimpses of it. You can see how much of a home Kate has made for William after his rocky childhood. Yes she has plenty of money, but you only need to look in Hello or on Instagram to see that money doesn't guarantee a warm, loving, home environment. Everything you see says 'family', 'stability' and 'home'. At the moment that's everything to millions of us.
`Bitter greens' - are these a particular plant or a generic term?

I grow chicory & endive, initially because I like endive frisee, but later for their inulin content. Also the damn' slugs & snails don't attack them as they do lettuce.

Checking on their beneficial properties, I was impressed by what they are credited with. Apparently, our penchant for ever-sweeter vegetables may be doing us no good. Bitter compounds are believed to stimulate the immune system - it's part of the plant's own defence system we've latched onto.
As James Wong, our celebrity ethnobotanist said on the radio about 10 days ago, `Broccoli is trying to kill you'- a neat example of `what doesn't kill you makes you stronger'!

Yet when I googled `bitter greens' the photos didn't look much like a chicory.

Is Meghan talented? Ye-es, but -only in the way that `Mr Ripley' is...
xxxxx said…
Meghan did not write her IMDB intro....though the entry is so long and sugary, that perhaps M was consulted.
"IMDb Mini Biography By: ahmetkozan"

ALSO:
Actors know that children are incessant scene stealers. Megs figured that tiny Charlotte was going to upstage her to "steal" her wedding day. So paranoid Megsy got verbally harsh with Charlotte.
Ava C said…
Just noticed Kate's not wearing her engagement ring in that photo from her desk at home. Very rare. She only leaves it off when visiting hospitals, hospices and such places. That's a subconscious message that we need to be as careful about hygiene in the home now. I stopped wearing my rings several weeks ago so I could be sure my hand-washing was as effective as possible. If I was married, I would keep my wedding ring on, as hospital staff do and as Kate has done, but nothing else.
Ava C said…
Wild Boar Battle-Maid - Bitter greens' - are these a particular plant or a generic term?

I know it as a generic term. The book 'Bitter Greens' is built around the story of Rapunzel. In the book, an old nun, Soeur Seraphina (who is more than she seems) talks to a daring young woman who has been sent to her convent by Louis XIV as punishment for her court writings and stories. Even her paper and ink have been confiscated, together with all her property. The nun tells her:

"‘I knew a girl once who was kept locked away for years, all by herself. It’s a wonder she didn’t go mad.’

I leant forward, eager for a story as always. ‘But why? Who locked her up?’

‘Her parents had sold her to a sorceress for a handful of bitter greens.’

Sœur Seraphina ran one hand through the tiny black seeds in the bag. ‘Parsley, wintercress and rapunzel. When she was twelve, the sorceress shut the girl up in a high tower built far away in a forest, in a room without a door or stair. The tower had only one narrow window, with its shutters locked tight so she could not see the sky …’"

Everything I read at the moment comes back to the virus. Rapunzel's in isolation. At least we can see the sky and enjoy our gardens if we have them.
Magatha Mistie said…
I have to read “Bitter Greens” now!
Reminds me, sort of, Kate Mosse “Labyrinth,” or Katherine Neville “The Eight”
Love these books.

@Wildboar. It’s not easy being green, or bitter 😉
Magatha Mistie said…
So Megs hasn’t contacted her father at all during this crisis.
Thomas Markle has an article in DM saying they should go back to UK.
Rut said…
Magatha Misti and nutty; I know, It makes no sense! :)
You can tell her that when my prediction comes through and she starts talking about her postnatal depression :)
Magatha Mistie said…
@Rut
Maybe post nasal depression, when her nose finally caves in 🥴
abbyh said…

Postnatal Depression? really?

I recognize that it actually needs a good face to help it.

A friend's daughter has this and the family is jumping through all kinds of hoops to be there for the kid for more than a year. The really sad part is that if she really had the baby herself (making it technically possible for PND), then after all the drama of the last 6 months, she's lost a lot of credibility as a source for people to rally behind as it doesn't justify all the drama around her actions before the engagement, the engagement, the wedding, the overseas trips and so on.

Really sad because it does need someone to publically be that face to help women with PND.
Ava C said…
Poor Archie. There's a recent quote picked up by Charlatan Duchess:

"Archie isn’t even 1 years old and he has moved to three different countries, travelled to 4-6 countries and has lived in multiple homes… What a tumultuous life for such a young child. :("
CookieShark said…
Sorry but that IMDB page is embarrassing!!
Sandie said…
We all know that the signs of who the Harkles really are were there in the engagement interview. I had another look at some of what they said and this was very telling:

Harry: 'all we want to do is be able to carry out the right engagements, carry out our work'

Himmy said…
The BRF need to tell the public who is footing the bill for Harkles’ security and how much. American tax payers should not contribute a single cent to their security cost. They live in mansions and take private jets. There are so many honest people struggling in both Britain and US right now. They deserve more help than the two useless leeches.

Why there is no transparency on this matter?
Teasmade said…
Morning! Well, it's morning here in central US. A little while ago I saw on Twitter that the queen had tested positive, and I haven't seen any updates or repetitions. Did anyone else see this? And if so, do you think the news has been censored?
Nelo said…
It was fake news.
Unknown said…
Thanks @Nelo. Good to know HMTQ doesn’t have it.

Thank you @Fairy Crocodile for the music suggestions. It’s been helping with my anxiety. You’ve got wonderful taste.
Sandie said…
William and Kate have sent out a message about mental health during the coronavirus pandemic. Meghan did this a few days ago. It is interesting in that it shows the stark difference between the couples (and I wonder if Harry and Meghan have any understanding of how they are the cause for all their troubles).

1. Funding: William and Catherine made a donation (significant), presumably through their foundation, and to legitimate and vetted and known organisations. No money at all forthcoming from Harry and Meghan, and they have no foundation or are not linked closely to any organisation that could raise funds or use them in the most effective way.

2. Organisations: William and Catherine are linked to and working with organisations that are based on research and networks and connections to power. Harry and Meghan had to search the Internet to find links (it kind of comes across as very amateur and untrustworthy).

3. IG posts: William and Catherine have established branding and continue to use their professional team to get the message out, including the use of videos. Harry and Meghan seem to be all over the place with their IG posts and without that platform the only way they have to communicate is through the tabloids (we don't know what the accuracy of those leaks are) and curated interviews for high-end magazines (presumably to be published in the next 2 months).

4. Mental Health: William and Catherine show with photographs, videos and appearances that they have a strong family unit and are healthy, fit and working. Who knows where Harry and Meghan are or what they are doing but their actions seem more and more irrational, selfish and untrustworthy, and their whining and victimhood is not indicative of good mental health.
Marie said…
"their whining and victimhood is not indicative of good mental health."

This. How can they be promoting good mental health when they aren't exactly living it. Whinging, self-pity, anger and blaming others, demanding immediate praise instead of knowing things often take quite a bit of time, and simply isolating into a positive echo chamber of sycophants, or forcing people to acquiesce through emotional blackmail, threats of stonewalling, and shame (i.e we'll tell the press this and that).

They are promoting the worst ideal of mental health, i.e. presenting a certain image on social media and getting angry or emotionally blackmailing when people and reality fail to play along.

But hypocrisy doesn't seem to matter in the least to them or their superficial, adoring public, as we see with their private jetting, McMansions, polyester clothes and shoe-hoarding, whilst portraying themselves as eco-warriors and social equality warriors or marrying a rich man for his platform yet presenting as a passionate feminist. Her vision of feminism is as bad as Audrey Gelman, the founder of the The Wing, that dreadful 50's style fluffy, Instagrammable women's co-working space for women who call themselves girlboss after starting yet another clothing line, natural make-up/hand lotion, lifestyle brand, graphic design shop, nail salon or cupcake bakery that employs 2 people and a social media manager, and actually make more money telling people how to start a business like theirs at conferences instead of actually bringing in physical revenues. It's a fluffy, pastel pink pyramid scheme.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Charade

Oh, I am so glad you enjoyed the music! It is as if I tried to reach through space between us to touch you and share something good with you. I can't express in words how happy I am to be able to share great music that helps us feel just a little bit better!

I so much want everything to be OK with you.
Sandie said…
@Ava C:
Poor Archie. There's a recent quote picked up by Charlatan Duchess:

"Archie isn’t even 1 years old and he has moved to three different countries, travelled to 4-6 countries and has lived in multiple homes… What a tumultuous life for such a young child.


It is actually worse than that contributor said when we lay out the bare facts, and this is just what we know from media reports:

By 10 months old ...
* 3 continents (Europe, North America, Africa)
* 5 countries (England, France, South Africa, Canada, USA)
* 3 homes, none of which his parents own, and there is no proof of payment of rent or lease agreement for any of them (UK, Canada, USA)

Reputedly:
* 3 nannies
* very little to no contact with great-grandparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and all the rest of the extended family on both sides

Remember all the breathless articles abut the nursery at Frogmore Cottage? Well, Archie was about 6 months old when they fled from that home.

Remember all the breathless articles about Doria as a grandmother and how close her and Meghan are? Doria appeared for photo ops at the wedding (and the day before), the launch of the Grenfell cookbook (that was bizarre as she has no connection), the Archie reveal in a castle (great for history to get a photo op with Harry's grandparents and Doria was dressed appropriately), the christening.

The Sussexes are deeply dysfunctional.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Dear Mimi,

So sorry to hear 3 members of your family lost their jobs. But please listen to this: I am not very old but I lived through times where I couldn't get food and had nowhere to live. I have no family apart from my mother. My father abandoned us. We survived thanks to the help of our friends.

There are difficult times for everybody. But they will pass as the horrible time I lived through did. There may be a downturn in the economy but it is caused by the virus, the external factor. Once it passed -and it will pass, even the European plague that killed two thirds of population passed! - people will get out and recovery will start.

I wish I could offer you more than the words of encouragement, but please believe we will cope with the current crisis. This too shall pass. Hugs from me to you.
CookieShark said…
@ Sandie re: Doria

Don't forget the flutter of stories more recently in the press that MM and Doria are, I believe, "Not that close"

I have also seen a video where MM literally pushes Doria out of the camera shot as she is walking in front of her. I can't find it now but it is on Tumblr.
Mimi said…
Fairy Crocodile, thank you for such uplifting words!!!! 😷
Rainy Day said…
@CookieShark said...
I have also seen a video where MM literally pushes Doria out of the camera shot as she is walking in front of her. I can't find it now but it is on Tumblr.

I think I know the one you mean. It’s just after they get out of the car when they arrive at the hotel the night before the wedding, and MM surges forward to greet the hotel officials.
Rainy Day said…
OT, but we could all use a little beauty and inspiration right now. The Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra just recorded a version of Beethoven’s Ode to Joy individually from their homes, with the track mixed together afterwards. They show each of the 19 musicians as they join in. Absolutely lovely.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-pandemic-beethovens-ode-to-joy-rendition-viral
Anonymous said…
@nutty. Yes, I did notice that about the Kate’s room. Nothing fragile at hand. My mother loved little gewgaws (especially crystal animals) and had them scattered all around the living room just at grabby-hands height.l And she had removed them all whenever we visited. My MIL never removed anything and I could never relax for a moment when we visited them because I’d be hovering over the children trying to make sure they didn’t break her gewgaws. Kate wows me the more I learn about her.

Also, in regards to Malibu. Living there is the ultimate symbol of success in Hollywood. All the biggest movers and shakers live there with their private beaches. There have been many lawsuits as these “stars” try to limit beach access to us plebes. This would be Valhalla to Markle, the ability to rub elbows with the likes of Geffen et al. This is billionaire country. Also, it’s a transactional paradise so she would fit right in. It’s also cut-throat and given her general ineptitude, I can’t see her making it in this world. As a woman she is far too old, and her constant PR missteps would signal her inability to play the “game.” Even with her marriage to Trevor she hadn’t come within 500 miles of that world. The queen of merching has begun to merch her husband.

I think Harry’s star will shine brightly for her for a while, but unless they can prove they have chops, then the powers that be will realize there is nothing to gain by admitting them to the charmed circle and slowly freeze them out. I would imagine she’s toast with Jennifer Meyer’s crowd, although, again, this is a purely transactional world. The only way to make her relevant to them would be for her to be super successful at something right away. That’s why all that trademarking was so important and why it’s so devastating that the BRF put their foot down. She doesn’t want a comfortable lifestyle. She wants to have lunch with Geffen and Spielberg and people like that.

This is also why all those bought bots are important because she’s trying to show that world how successful she is and why she has carpel tunnel from deleting all the negative ones. The recent barrage of negative articles (and this is only the beginning I believe) will start to undermine her determination to prove how “worthy” she. All those negative comments on the DM are not helping. Her daily rage must be incandescent. This is why I think she’s pushing the “racism” card so often. She’s trying to hide the fact that she’s despised by a significant percentage of the U.K. go away.

The surfacing of her inexcusable behavior is a lovely foil (the Crown always wins!) to that narrative and will undermine her with the powers that be. She’s becoming a liability. Of course she can’t see that with every nasty PR push she does, trying to discredit the BRF, it ultimately paints her as beyond toxic. Had she left the royal family with nothing but praise from dawn to dusk, her plans to take over the world might have been successful. Her innate vindictiveness will ultimate sink her. People that complain in the Hollywood industry are punished. Ask all those actresses who complained about getting sexually abused by actors and directors; where are their careers today? Of course, she’s not throwing shade at Hollywood yet, but she CANNOT keep her mouth shut. If she doesn’t start getting the deals she feels she’s entitled to, then she will start throwing around the racism card again.

Truly, the only thing she has left is a reality show. At Home with the Sussexes or Malibu Housewives It’s just about the only avenue she has left.
Nutty Flavor said…
Bryony Gordon at the Telegraph is at it again.

I can't be the only one who's sad to see Harry and Meghan go

I’m not going to lie: I had a moment over Harry and Meghan leaving. Like, a real moment, with tears and snot and running mascara. And it’s embarrassing, because I don’t even really know them that well. OK, I know them better than most, but only really then in a teeny, tiny professional way, a texting every now and then and ‘hey, how are the kids?’ way. I don’t cry when colleagues who become friends depart for new companies, or when they leave for foreign shores.

But with Harry and Meghan, I was genuinely upset. I mean, the whole works. And I reckon there are plenty of people who have never met the pair who feel as if they have, people who are as sad as I am to see that they have left the UK and, as of Tuesday, will formally step away from their lives as working royals.

It’s funny, isn’t it, how some celebrities and high-profile people have a way of making you feel you know them without having ever come within five miles of them? Like most people, I felt shocked and anxious when I heard that Tom Hanks had been diagnosed with Covid-19, before remembering that I have absolutely no personal connection to him whatsoever and that it would be ridiculous (not to mention emotionally exhausting) to feel upset about everyone who exhibits even mild symptoms of the virus. Still, I found myself thinking about him and his wife Rita Wilson as if they were the couple who lived next door, and not huge movie stars.

Some celebrities, like Madonna and Beyoncé, feel untouchable. Their pure star power bestows upon them something intimidating, something that would make you wobble in their presence, and become a gibbering wreck. Other celebrities are loved precisely because of how normal they make us feel – they have that down-to-earth human touch that somehow makes their magic ours, too. Tom Hanks. Jennifer Aniston. And Harry and Meghan, obviously. They have an ability to connect in a way that is rare for people so… well, rarified.


Harry has always had that rule-breaking thing about him – the party prince who became the first royal to break with stiff-upper-lip tradition and talk about his mental health. It wasn’t a surprise that he fell in love with a woman as passionate and spirited as Meghan, a woman who had a history of activism long before she ever met our prince.

And so perhaps it shouldn’t have even been that big a surprise when Harry decided to break yet more rules and up sticks to Canada. Perhaps we should have seen it coming. Still, just as we felt so happy for them on their wedding day less than two years ago – throwing street parties, cooing as they stood on the steps of St George’s Chapel and kissed – their pain now also feels somehow personal. It feels as if we have let them and their little family down. Our loss is the rest of the world’s gain, but please know this Harry and Meghan (or H&M, as I’m sure you also refer to them): we will miss you now you have gone.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/cant-one-sad-see-harry-meghan-go/
JHanoi said…
Harkles future organization started with their half of the money from the old FabFour non-profit foundation.

Are there any laws or tax ramifications in England by pulling out of a Non-profit foundation and not using that money to start another non-profit? Since they aren’t starting a traditional foundation and are doing something ‘different’ will it still be non-profit?
I get the feeling they are already dipping into that non-profit money to pay their expenses.
Nutmeg said…
Hello Nutties! Long time lurker and first time commenter. I believe 'She who must not be named' AKA Voldemeg had two incidents with Princess Charlotte.The first was at the dress fitting prior to the wedding. I agree with everyone that Princess Charlotte was probably just being a typical small child not holding still and Voldemeg flipped out on her and Catherine wasn't standing for it.
A British friend said she heard (not sure from where) that on New Years, before Fauxarchie's birth, Princess Charlotte touched Voldemeg's "pregnant" belly and that's when the slapping incident occurred. If it happened, I'm sure Voldemeg slapped the Princess's hands away from the ginormous fake pregnancy bump lest Princess Charlotte tell her mum that it was all soft and squishy, quite unlike her mum's when she was pregnant with Prince Louis.

Voldemeg is morally repugnant.
Sandie said…
I think those photos of William and Catherine were taken at Kensington Palace. She is wearing the same outfit she wore to the visit to that call centre place, which was before they went to Amner Hall.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a31966705/kate-middleton-prince-william-kensington-palace-coronavirus-photos/
xxxxx said…
Peridot said...
It has taken me a while to catch up but something caught my attention from the discussion yesterday about H&M new venture and hiring Melinda Gates' protegee. Are the couple trying to set up a new scheme like Uncle Andie had at the Palace? It sounds like the experience of the new "Chief of Staff" is in setting up incubators. Remember that Andrew's scheme called for the entrepreneurs to give up a certain percent of the profits. That's all history now, but we'll have to wait and see what form the new M&H venture presents.

I wonder how many of these businesses that Andrew "incubated" were functioning as of two months ago, prior to the corona virus panic of 2020?

That pitch@ThePalace was quite a scheme/scam for Prince Andrew. He made millions off it (my guess at least ten million) and he was definitely cashing in on his Royal title and status in this scheme. Not really that much different than what H/M wanted to do. Though I am sure some of the disparate-desperate young budding entrepreneurs did well via Andrew's rain making via his Royale Connections. And Andrew himself perhaps providing seed money to the young'uns, same as a venture capitalist. Same as what goes on at Shark Tank TV show w Mark Cuban and Company.

I'll bet Andrew was completely oblivious to making millions this way until Jeffrey Epstein clued him in. IOW this was Epstein's baby that Andrew took and ran with it. Andrew did not steal this idea from Epstein, Eppy simply explained it to him. No wonder they were such close buds, besides the abundant sex with young women. If Andrew did/did not make it with (rape?) Virginia Roberts Giuffre, he surely was having his way (consensualy) with some of the over 20 year olds that Eppy had orbiting around him in NY, Palm Beach, Virgin Islands, here, there, and almost everywhere.

At any rate the party is over is for Andrew as far as millions in easy income (how do you think he bought that lovely ski chalet) and lots of Princely sex. He always has and will always have Fergie anyway. As in, where is she going to go?

"Prince Andrew will not celebrate the New Year with his family at their £13 million ski chalet, an insider has claimed.
The Duke of York, who purchased the £22,000-a-week property in the exclusive Swiss village Verbier in 2014......."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7815265/Prince-Andrew-frozen-annual-family-trip-13million-Verbier-ski-lodge.html
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Nutty

Thank you for the article. Gordon has her uses. Her sycophantic article serves to show there are some people even now who feel sorry for the Harkles.

"What do you mean the whole country is heartless racists? Here is the piece by Bryony Gordon. It broke my heart. Cried until I had a big shot of vodka to calm me down. What a shame these two brilliant people chose to take their shining light out of UK. Oh well hope America will benefit from their selfless humanitarian work. Cheers!"
Sandie said…
The latest Harry Makrle post is up:

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/03/29/shameless-attention-seeking-from-the-irrelevant-sussexes-in-a-time-of-crisis/

Something interesting about this one is the claim that the voiceover for the elephant documentary had already been done, with an A-list Hollywood actor. Huge donations to charities this actor supports had to be made by Disney to get the actor to step aside and let the narration be redone by Meghan. What is not made clear is why Disney would have done this? Did they see Meghan as a bona fide royal and with Harry's connection to Africa this made her a far more valuable narrator for them?
TTucker said…
Hi Ava C, Rebecca B and all Nutties.

Even when you do have diplomatic immunity and privileges, it only works when you are on duty, performing an official function. For ex: an official travel mission or an official speech or act. If you are travelling for personal reasons, it does not cover you. Having diplomatic immunity never puts you above the national law and regulations.

Btw, I take the opportunity to explain that there are thousands of types of meetings at the UN, at different level. When Markle gave that poor speech, it was certainly not at the General Assembly... It seemed to be a side event at UNWOMEN, and on the International Day of the Rights of Women, where many are invited.
xxxxx said…
I can't be the only one who's sad to see Harry and Meghan go

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." --- Karl Marx _______ Wallis-Simpson and Edward VIII then Meg$/Hapless. Prince Philip is quoted as "It's Wallis-Simpson all over again" OK all Nutties know this, I just like Karl Marx jumping into the mix.
Blonde Gator said…
New poster here, been lurking for a week or so. Hi Nutties!

Oh my! This just appeared on CDAN.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/03/blind-item-4_29.html


Blind Item #4

For the time being there are about ten-fifteen Secret Service agents who were pulled from bank crimes and other investigations to help protect the former actress and her celebrity husband. The number will probably go down as the rotation process for their permanent security can begin again. Currently that team is frozen in place and won't be able to do their normal two week rotations back home. Also supplementing are county law enforcement personnel. The US is picking up the bill for about 70% of the $20K a day cost which will go higher once everyone starts moving around again.

Posted by ent lawyer at 8:45 AM
Bryony Gordon - speak for yourself!

" Our loss is the rest of the world’s gain, but please know this Harry and Meghan (or H&M, as I’m sure you also refer to them): we will miss you now you have gone."

Miss them? Of course I'll miss them -like I'll miss Covid 19 when it's gone.
Nutty Flavor said…
That's really something, isn't it, Unknown?

The question is, how long can this go on for?

I'd like to see someone ask Trump a question about it at one of his news conferences. He seems to have one every day now.
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https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/03/blind-item-4_29.html:

Well said Nutty!

"I'm not sure Trump can do anything about it. There may be bilateral agreements in place; cutting off the Sussexes in the US might raise questions about the cost of protecting US diplomats in Britain."

`US diplomats in Britain' - a very sensitive point in the UK in view of Mrs Secoolas running back to the US after killing a British citizen by driving on the wrong side of the road.




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Telegraph Reporters
15 December 2019 • 12:24am
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arry Dunn's mother has said she is "distraught" after the American suspect in the crash that killed her son was filmed back behind the wheel.
Dunn, 19, died after his motorbike was involved in a head-on collision with a car outside RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire on August 27.
Anne Sacoolas, 42, the wife of a US technical intelligence officer, claimed diplomatic immunity and was able to return to America.
Jdubya said…
Harry Markle has a new post

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/03/29/shameless-attention-seeking-from-the-irrelevant-sussexes-in-a-time-of-crisis/

However, there are claims that MM was chosen/approached for the role, but the truth is the narration had been completed already, and the actor (A list) was asked to step aside. The truth behind the Disney fiasco is an open secret in Hollywood.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Anon-Unknown

Enty tends to have very good sources in Los Angeles. I wouldn't be surprised if some furious LEO called him with this scoop. Possibly one of the county LEOs.

@WildBoar, good point about the Harry Dunn case. Didn't that woman turn out to be not a diplomat, but a (former?) CIA agent?
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https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/03/blind-item-4_29.html:

Well said Nutty!

"I'm not sure Trump can do anything about it. There may be bilateral agreements in place; cutting off the Sussexes in the US might raise questions about the cost of protecting US diplomats in Britain."

`US diplomats in Britain' - a very sensitive point in the UK in view of Mrs Secoolas running back to the US after killing a British lad of 19, by driving on the wrong side of the road.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/15/anne-sacoolas-harry-dunn-crash-suspect-pictured-back-behind/

Telegraph Reporters
15 December 2019 • 12:24am

"Harry Dunn's mother has said she is "distraught" after the American suspect in the crash that killed her son was filmed back behind the wheel.
Dunn, 19, died after his motorbike was involved in a head-on collision with a car outside RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire on August 27.
Anne Sacoolas, 42, the wife of a US technical intelligence officer, claimed diplomatic immunity and was able to return to America."
xxxxx said…
"If you ain't cheating you ain't trying" --an old baseball and football expression
Now updated for Meg$|Hapless to-->

"If you ain't dipping into your Foundation and hiring your cronies, you ain't trying"
@Nutty, yes, the woman that hit Harry Dunn was a CIA agent and in a more senior position than her husband.
Nutty Flavor said…
Sure, @Anon-Unknown. These are my CDAN comments so far:

1) I'm not sure Trump can do anything about it. There may be bilateral agreements in place; cutting off the Sussexes in the US might raise questions about the cost of protecting US diplomats in Britain.

Officially, the Sussexes are no longer part of the Royal Family as of April 1. You would think that would have an effect on their right to protection, but perhaps it doesn't.

Trump is no Sussex fan - Meghan once called him "syphills" and Harry insists that he has "blood on his hands" for encouraging the US coal industry - but he does have a good relationship with the Queen. Trump's mother was Scottish and a great Royalist.

2) BTW, it's fine to Tweet Trump, but it would also be a good idea to Tweet some of the reporters who show up in his daily news briefings.

If Trump is asked about it live on the air, he'll have to explain why US taxpayers are on the hook for this, or perhaps give an indication of how long it will last, given that the move is "permanent."

The County law enforcement people must be furious. As if they don't have enough else to do in California right now.

(then, in response to Gauloise, who says: @Nutty They have to ask for special protection from Trump as Harry is no longer a protected person as of Aprl 1. The diplomat thing is meant for short stays not permanent residents. This has been stated in a number of news articles.)

3) I understand, @Gauloise, and it really doesn't make sense that the Sussexes are getting protection.

My guess that something extrajudicial is in place, possibly (as a UK commenter on my blog pointed out) connected to the Harry Dunn case, which is huge in Britain but largely unknown in the US.

(Harry Dunn, a 19-year-old motorcyclist, was run down by the wife of an American diplomat driving on the wrong side of the road. The woman claimed immunity and left the UK the next day. The British public would very much like her back for a trial. It has since emerged that the woman was not just the wife of a diplomat, but a former CIA agent.)

Sorry, I made a mess of posting the previous bit about Harry Dunn - then made a mess of trying to delete iy!
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Wild Boar battle Maid

I would be very interested to see Trump's reaction if Americans begin to show their displeasure about paying for the Harkles, who, for a second, do not have any diplomatic role in the USA whatsoever. They are there by private reasons. Trump has to face elections at the time of economic trouble and uncertainty, doesn't he?

Isn't it revealing that her buddy Trudeau quickly caved in when more than 80 thousand Canadians signed the petition not to fund the Harkles within two days? I guess it is something to do with the fact that Trudeau is in the minority government and doesn't want to tilt the boat that is already low in the water.
Maybe the US covering H&M's security, even for a bit, is in exchange for the UK "forgetting" about the agent hitting Harry Dunn.
One of my narc cousins-in-law married an American `diplomat', referred to as a `consul' - I always thought he was CIA.
Whoops - that Blind item has disappeared. Have I said something?
YankeeDoodle said…
Dear Friends ,

I have a friend/family member/ neighbor/ who has been working on the Corona Virus. This person is now leading a team of doctors and scientists from NIH, CDC, and FDA. The person is concerned, but as a statistician, along with medical and science backgrounds, says the virus has probably been seen as a flu throughout the winter. Numbers are fluid. Any person can change statistics to satisfy receiving extra money, cause panic, and more. I know I had the flu shot, but came down with the worst symptoms if a flu after a visit to a family party out of town. Half the people at the party came down with fevers,coughs, aching bones, and sometimes a feeling of losing breath. Nobody died, although we all were miserable. The government is coming out with a test to see if one has had the corona virus, and if so, why, where, who, what and where.

Please do not panic. The person is brilliant, and knows how anybody can massage numbers. Do not panic. The virus is not a flu, but it has flu-like symptoms.
Himmy said…
I don’t quite understand why Harry Dunn’s case has anything to do with we have to pay for Harkles’ security. I just heard that a coworker at my husband’s firm died from Coronavirus yesterday. He was healthy and in his mid fifties. Why do we need spend money and resources on these two useless idiots? I am beyond disgusted.
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KCM1212 said…
Here is at least one petition to prevent Hackles getting US paid security. Forward it everywhere


https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-no-us-funding-for-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-security-in-the-us
Vince said…
Trump just did a tweet saying he will not pay for security protection for Harry and Megan:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244338645198352386

Ouch.
CookieShark said…
@ Vince, GOOD.

Given some of the things H&M have said about him, Trump was very diplomatic in his tweet.
Nutty Flavor said…
Trump can certainly move fast when he wants to.

Enty has good sources in Los Angeles, however, so I don't doubt that the Sussexes have some security, at least until March 31.

Could the UK be paying for the Secret Service to protect Harry and Meghan until the borders open and their RPOs can be rotated out?

This may have been the arrangement in Canada as well - some of the security was provided by Canada, but Canada was reimbursed by the UK.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Vince

Well caught. I hope Trump will not make a U-turn on this one. As it stands now suspect it is exactly what people of US want to hear.
Saying and doing are two very different things. One can make a big bluster/statement publicly, and then do something completely different behind the scene. Sorry. Until those two are gone back to the UK or there are documents from a FOIA request, I won't believe it.
Louise said…
Nutty: As far as I know, Canada was not reimbursed for Smirkle security.

Trudeau never mentioned it when there was a huge outcry by Canadians against paying for security and security would not have had to be stopped by us if we were being reimbursed.
Vince said…
@Cookie

Yes, he was fairly restrained, for him.



@Nutty

Trump does move fast on things that he's focused on. Will be interesting to see how the UK looks at things going forward with regard to the Harkles' security



@Fairy

My guess is he won't change his stance. We'll see. But he has an easy 'out' now in that Trudeau did the same thing. So Trump is just following along.

Americans are never much enthralled with the royals. And we are in a moment of populism and national (virus) crisis. Trump saying this is red meat for his supporters and many Americans. Why say you will spend money on quitter non-royals when people are losing their jobs now left and right? Easy call for Trump.




Notice how Trump praises the queen in the tweet, as well. Queen good, Harkles the bad rogues seeking to grift off USA taxpayer dollars. My guess is Buckingham Palace isn't too displeased with this tweet (unless it's them that ends up picking up the security costs now).
i am confined to the house, as everyone else is. The week is not so bad but the teleconferences are endless, going on and on and round and round, so much so that at the weekend my brain cells have been sucked out and i am in no mood to talk to anyone. So .. i have been scouring the internet and various blogs so i can lurk without participating. I remembered a blog i used to look at months before the wedding and leading up to the wedding. i had some knowledge of miggy markle and it was not kind shall we say. The blog was NYCRealRoyal so i looked it up again. He/She completely disappeared after 'returning from the wedding' never to be heard from again. It is interesting reading, much of what was said has turned out to be true and it would appear they had inside knowledge of both miggy and her handbag. At that time the handbag still had a lot of respect and many believed what was obviously great PR about the prince. Me included. I would love them to return. IF YOU READ HERE NYC - PLEASE COME BACK WE NEED YOU.
Nutty Flavor said…
Rebecca English tweet:

The US would never have been asked to pay for #HarryandMeghan’s security. It’s not their responsibility. But this tweet shows what invidious position the couple are are now in, having decided to leave the UK and move to America.

https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1244343210148757507?s=20
Nutty Flavor said…
I had to look up "invidious".

adjective
(of an action or situation) likely to arouse or incur resentment or anger in others.
"she'd put herself in an invidious position"
Vince said…
Nutty, I think Ms English hit the nail on the head
lizzie said…
If we provide security for H&M, it would be better for the UK to reimburse the US for it than NOT to reimburse but reimbursement really isn't the issue.

All 50 states have activated the National Guard in some form because of COVID-19. This is not the time to divert law enforcement personnel to care for two millionaires and (maybe) their child.

IF the UK did reimburse for the cost of federal personnel or local/state LE, it's not as though that would mean the federal, state, or local government could hire replacement personnel. So taxpayers would still be shortchanged.
Vince said…
One other thing about Trump's tweet -- in case Meg decides to get involved in the 2020 election, anything she says about Trump now (negative) he can just chalk up to it being spite for him not agreeing to pay her security costs (even if he wasn't going to have to do so).

So, simple populism (anti-elite) red meat for his base and putting Meg (and Harry) into a "they're only saying bad things about me because I won't pay their costs" box. Seems a good move by Trump.

Also, the Trump has been up less than an hour and it already has 103,000 likes. It was a hit.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Now, after Trump made things clear, lets imagine Andrew's reaction. He is disgraced but he is still his mom's fav.

Queen: we may have to pay for them. Can't allow anything to happen, it will be bad publicity.

Andrew: You made me drop RPOs for my daughters, and they are blood princesses. If I can pay for two of them so can Harry. Plus my girls are still working royals. Sorry, Charlie.

Charles: mumbles incoherently

Camilla: smirks and pours a hard drink to herself.

Wills: adjusts his scarf.
Louise said…
Canada chose March 31 to cut security to the Smirkles because as non working Royals after that date, they could no longer be considered "protected persons". (Leaving aside that they did about 3 days of work in the UK and none in Canada between their arrival in November 2019 and departure in March 2020).

It was never actually clear between Nov and March whether they were legally protected persons during that time, but it was clear that they were not protected persons after March 31.

I imagine that the same international law would apply in the USA.
Ziggy said…
Hilarious how Trump not only praised the Queen, but called them just Harry and Meghan, nothing about duke/duchess/sussex.
Hahaha
They must pay!

Yeah, pay for what they did to the Queen and country. ;)

It's a layered tweet.
Himmy said…
@Vince - I believe that over 90% of US voters don’t want to pay their security cost regardless their political alignment. We don’t pay Kim K’s security and we should not pay for Harkles’. Let their silly fans or checkbook Charles support them.
Portcitygirl said…
Just saw the news! Way to go President Trump! You will certainly have my vote in 2020!

Suck it Sussexes! US doesn't owe you squat!

You should be ashamed even suggesting ANYONE pay your way with this Pandemic. Call your celeb friends, maybe they will take up your charity case.
Louise said…
I don't understand why the Smirkles don't hire some Russians or ex-Israeli military like other celebs do.

Did they blow their entire budget on Catherine St Laurent?
Rainy Day said…
In a tweet on Sunday, Trump said: 'I am a great friend and admirer of the Queen & the United Kingdom. It was reported that Harry and Meghan, who left the Kingdom, would reside permanently in Canada. Now they have left Canada for the U.S. however, the U.S. will not pay for their security protection. They must pay!'

Hilarious reactions in DM. A lot of people are saying it’s the first time they’ve ever agreed with President Trump! He has a lot more spine than our so very woke Canadian PM Trudeau.

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