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Meg (and possibly Harry) move to Los Angeles

Amid the avalanche of new Coronavirus developments in the media this morning - and images of people all around Britain applauding NHS employees for their devotion to Coronavirus patients - comes the news that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have moved "permanently" to Los Angeles.

According to PEOPLE magazine, they are "living in a secluded compound and haven't ventured out."

California was always the Sussexes' ultimate destination: nobody ever really believed that their move to Canada was permanent, probably not even the local women's charities Meg used for photo ops a month or two ago.

All that was in question was the timing. And even though Meg reportedly told her ubiquitous "friends" who then told the media that she wouldn't return to the US while Donald Trump was president, that promise (like so many other promises) has been left behind in the service of expediency and publicity.

Why now?

According to the Sun's Dan Wootton, who seems to have become one of Meg's preferred mouthpieces, the couple arrived in Los Angeles last week, "taking a private jet before the borders were shut."

Fleeing a safe and isolated island home to fly to one of the the USA's corona hotspots would seem to be a bit counter-intuitive, particularly as parents to a young and vulnerable baby.

According to Dan, the Sussexes made the move because "they have a big support network there. It's where their new team of Hollywood agents and PRs and business managers are based. Meghan has a lot of friends there and, of course, her mum Doria."

The real reasons

It seems more likely, however, that whomever really owned the Vancouver Island house probably wanted it for his own quarantine purposes (Coronavirus is becoming a problem in Russia) and hadn't expected the Sussex's 6-week "thinking period" beginning in November to last until late March.

The fact that the Sussexes' Royal credentials (and eligibility for Canadian security assistance) will be running out in four days was no doubt also a factor.

Their visa status in Canada is also unclear. 

Meg's movie promotion

Meghan, at least, has a project to promote in California: a voiceover on a new Disney documentary about elephants

In a Twitter announcement, Disney+ wrote "Disneynature's Elephant, an Original Movie narrated by Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, starts streaming April 3, only on #DisneyPlus."

How much promotion she can actually do, however, is in question. Streaming movies generally don't get gala premieres, and even if they did, much of Hollywood is shut down at the moment. 

Meg could do interviews, but they would probably be done by telephone or Skype in these Coronavirus times, and she could have done that from anywhere. 

Harry, meanwhile, has absolutely nothing to do in California. 

Oprah, who appears to be his one business contact, is also in quarantine


Are they together?

Which raises the question - are the three (or two) Sussexes together?  The Sussexes' weak social media contribution to the NHS clapping campaign - a black background with yellow clapping emoji - raises questions.

All three Cambridge kids were shown clapping. Wouldn't this have been a great time to show off Archie?  

Not doing so raises the usual questions - do they not have custody of him? Does he have (what is to them) an embarrassing disability? Does he exist at all?

Charitably, one could assume that there is perhaps an exclusive contract to show Archie off on the cover of Vogue US or Vanity Fair. 

But then why not post a photo of Meghan and Harry clapping? There's nothing exclusive about them, and they clearly own a camera-enabled mobile phone. 

Maybe Meg didn't have access to a hairdresser, but then hey, wear a hat or use a filter, or accept that being a bit messy in this situation would make you look accessible or even likable. It's the thought that counts. 

Unless, of course, they couldn't be photographed together because they aren't together, and perhaps Harry (who would have no special visa status in the US) isn't in California at all.

What do you think?



Comments

xxxxx said…
@MustySyphone

You are completely correct. H/M withheld normal family photos and Archie photos so that one day they could merch out exclusive photos of their grand splash of an entrance to their new lives in Hollywood. They employ their own photographer who photographs them exactly how they want to present. They copyright these photos so they can charge for them. Megsy was dreaming of charging mega-bucks for these photos.
All the above can now be filed under epic fail, along with their treasured Instagram they just closed down. Yikes! Can matters be coming to a head for The ex-Royale Duo? As in a month or two we will find Megs and Arch bunking at Doria's and Homesick Harry back in the UK.
Shaggy said…
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HappyDays said…
xxxxx said:

As in a month or two we will find Megs and Arch bunking at Doria's and Homesick Harry back in the UK.

@xxxxx: If a Sussex split ever happens, Archie will most likely be with Harry in the UK. He is a royal baby and I doubt the RF would just let him be in the hands of Malignant Meg. The reigning monarch is considered to have custody of all grandchildren, so as a great grandchild, HMTQ might not have custody, but I think they would win in a court battle.

If they lose, when HMTQ passes, Charles will be reigning monarch and can get his grandson back in the UK for a proper upbringing and not left in LA to be used as a prop by Meghan.
SDJ said…
@Nutty
Couldn't they have renamed the Instagram account? "Harry and Meghan" or something? To walk away from 10 million followers (even if many of them were fake, and even more were hate-followers) seems extreme.

I don't think they want to get rid of SussexRoyal. My thought is that they are going to start a new Instagram, but will let SussexRoyal float out there for eternity. That Woman is going to keep Royal in some way shape or form come hell or high water.
Mary Anne said…
At Henrietta
We no longer pay for former presidents to have secret service, so why should we pay these two gifters? Bill Clinton was the last president to have lifetime security, and we are having problems securing our Democratic presidential nominees, but we are going to pay for these two dufuses? Hells to the no.
Snippy said…
@SDJ, no kidding they didn't want to get rid of SussexRoyal. Highly doubt they had any choice in the matter...
Toronto-based gossip columnist Lainey Liu, a friend of MM's since her Suits days, is pitching a fit based on her belief that the Harkles are closing their IG account at the RF's behest, calling the RF "Hardcore Petty". Lainey has always been one of the Harkle's staunchest defenders and has been very quick to call anyone who criticizes the duo "racist". I'll bet that the comments on the duo's social media accounts have been scathing.
lizzie said…
@Mary Anne wrote

"We no longer pay for former presidents to have secret service, so why should we pay these two gifters? Bill Clinton was the last president to have lifetime security..."

Not true. While there was a period where former presidents didn't have lifetime SS protection, that changed under Obama in 2013.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act

I do agree we shouldn't pay 1¢ towards protection for H&M.
CatEyes said…
@Mary Anne

Actually Barack Obama reinstated it and and Made SS Protection (get this!) it For Life.

From 1997 until 2013, legislation was in place limiting Secret Service Protection to former presidents and their spouses to a period of 10 years from the date the former president leaves office. President Barack Obama signed legislation on January 10, 2013, reversing this limit and reinstating lifetime protection.
Anonymous said…
ALL ex presidents should have life protection. There are a lot of armed political nuts in my country. I dont care what party, what beliefs, whatever, all former presidents need protection.
FrenchieLiv said…
@Sylvia : thanks for the kink :
Now, we know fo sure their communications will be managed by Sunshine Sachs and James Holt.

@Lizzie, with regard to Harry obtaining an American citizenship, what if he chose to become ‘naturalised’. Instead. Firstly, would this be permissible? Secondly, would he still have to renounce his title if he was naturalised? πŸ€—
MustySyphone said…
How I got my name. I have rather an "ethnic" name. Its been misspelled many times but the one I liked best was a letter in the post addressed to Mustysyphone ___________". I thought to myself, do you really think someone named a child musty syphone. And so I am.
FrenchieLiv said…
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FrenchieLiv said…
They want Instagram to move their followers to their new account...
https://blindgossip.com/we-are-exceptional-people/
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle --

With regard to becoming an American citizen -- this website spells it out fairly clearly --

https://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-US-Citizen

The green card requirements might be an easy route for PH, but not the residency requirements. He has to demonstrate FIVE YEARS of residency, living at least 30 months during that time.

--You must have been a green card holder for the three years immediately before you apply for naturalization.

--You must have been a continuous resident for the three years before you apply and have been physically present in the U.S. for at least eighteen months.

--You must have lived in a marriage with your U.S. citizen spouse during the three years. Your spouse must have been a citizen during the entire time.

--You must have lived within the state or USCIS district for at least three months before you file your application.

--You must have entered the country legally. For example, you can’t be in the United States illegally and get citizenship simply because you married a citizen.
CatEyes said…
@Happy Days said...

>>>The reigning monarch is considered to have custody of all grandchildren, so as a great grandchild, HMTQ might not have custody, but I think they would win in a court battle.<<<

Every time someone brings this up I mention the Hague Convention (both the US and UK are signatories) and posters here don't seem to consider this International law. This convention provides for the case of a parent taking a child without consent of the other party and goes to another country to find a more favorable court. I won't presume to be any expert but I think International law would preempt an ancient British law (allowing the Monarch to have custody) and would prevent Harry from absconding with Archie. I base this on assuming Meg and them establish their home in Calif, and she files first in a Calif. court for custody.

"""The Convention provides that the removal or retention of a child is "wrongful" whenever:
a. It is in breach of rights of custody attributed to a person, an institution or any other body, either jointly or alone, under the law of the State in which the child was habitually resident immediately before the removal or retention; and b. at the time of removal or retention those rights were actually exercised, either jointly or alone, or would have been so exercised but for the removal or retention.
These rights of custody may arise by operation of law or by reason of a judicial or administrative decision, or by reason of an agreement having legal effect under the law of the country of habitual residence.[5]

From the Convention's standpoint, the removal of a child by one of the joint holders without the consent of the other, is ... wrongful, and this wrongfulness derives in this particular case, not from some action in breach of a particular law, but from the fact that such action has disregarded the rights of the other parent which are also protected by law, and has interfered with their normal exercise.[6]"""

Besides the optics of a child being wrenched from the custody of the mother without considering the 'best interests of the child' seems improbable. However, perhaps Harry would have evidence against Megs but again, it has to be handled according to law. Generally jurisdiction of the court is where the child resides.
xxxxx said…
@happy days
If a Sussex split ever happens, Archie will most likely be with Harry in the UK. He is a royal baby and I doubt the RF would just let him be in the hands of Malignant Meg. The reigning monarch is considered to have custody of all grandchildren, so as a great grandchild, HMTQ might not have custody, but I think they would win in a court battle.

You refer to old laws, rules and customs that date back hundreds of years. I cannot see this Queen or Charles having the cojones to try and enforce this. Due to Megsy's race card and due to the woman being the preferred custodial parent in a separation.

I see public sentiment running against the BRF if the BRF tries to wrest Archie (faux or not) from his mother. The UK Daily Mail would be hair on fire for weeks!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle --

Insofar as British titles mean nothing to Americans, Harry would have to otherwise demonstrate that he has some kind of diplomatic status, which he clearly does not.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I don't see Fauxchie being *wrested* from the BRF. Neither do I see him ever, ever getting a place in the line of succession, no matter what the rules.
Tamhsn said…
Is this posted here yet?

From Blind gossip:

Let’s say you have an Instagram account.

Let’s say you are also fortunate enough to have a lot of followers.

What happens if you have to move to a new Instagram account? Will Instagram move your followers to your new account?

The answer is “No.”

We stopped doing that a couple of years ago. Now we tell users to simply put a note on their old account instructing followers to follow them at their new account.




This married celebrity couple is in exactly that situation right now. They need boost their social media numbers as fast as possible to start making money.

So they are not taking no for an answer!

We were contacted by their representative asking us to make an exception in their case. Their argument was that this was an exceptional couple in an exceptional circumstance and that it would be to Instagram’s benefit to do this.

We don’t know if Instagram will comply.

But my, my, my! Someone is certainly full of me me me exceptionalism!

Of course the couple will deny it.

In their new, “independent” lifestyle, they would never ask anyone else to fund them… or protect them… or make any kind of exception for them!

What? All three?
lizzie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

Naturalization is the only way for Harry to become a US citizen. I included the oath he'd have to take in my earlier post. The one where he must disavow loyalty to foreign sovereigns.

I believe it would take only 3 years not 5 since he is married to a US citizen (although that clock starts to run only when they've been married 3 years.) Also not sure Harry could pass the civics tests (although it's pretty basic)

Paths to citizenship besides naturalization

1. Birthright (born here)

2. Derived (not born here but at least one parent is a citizen. Probably applies to Archie unless he's a doll.)

3. Acquired (For children under 18 in the US legally, if a parent becomes a naturalized citizen, the child may "acquire" citizenship if certain conditions hold)
Shaggy said…
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Such rubbish about the bullying! It surprises me that such a "woke" person can sing the victim song while constantly throwing out word-salad items like "self-empowerment" and "power of the feminine." I thought you could just disable Insta like you can Linked In and Facebook. They hold it invisibly for a month or so, during which time you can revamp and reactivate. Maybe that is not the case for Insta.
Yes, you can temporarily disable it. It looks like it has gone, but it hasn't.
"This prevents someone else from claiming your username and there is no need to back up your pictures or videos as they will be saved privately for when you decide to restore your account."
Humor Me said…
Looks like "the looonnngggg good bye" has started on the DM with the posting of the syrupy Harry and Meghan site - is it Sussuex royal for 24 more hours? plus the Pa payment for protection article, plus the Archie/ second baby article, the million dollar wardrobe article, the new charity et al to be announced......plus that Meghan will adapt easier because she is like a shape shifter article.

such a glut of articles about a couple with ....nothing.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ lizzie --

"2. Derived (not born here but at least one parent is a citizen. Probably applies to Archie unless he's a doll.)

I believe Harry's citizenship is in question, not Fauxchie. Harry must ride Meghan's coattails to get a green card, let alone naturalization, regardless of children. The laws on that are still in flux.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Humor Me said...
......plus that Meghan will adapt easier because she is like a shape shifter article.

_____________________________________________

That shape-shifter stuff will come back to haunt her, mark my words. She has not bothered to hide it. No morals. No ethics. Only naked, animal, cunning survivalism on the same order as the Nazis in WWII, regardless of who gets hurt.
CatEyes said…
@xxxx said...

"....due to the woman being the preferred custodial parent in a separation."

Unbelievable as it may sound that it is actually generally a father (who files for custody) who statistically is more successful in getting custody of children. This is for cases in states where there is no preference given (pretty much all except maybe Louisiana where they have Napoleonic code perhaps). Now there are many states who threw out a joint custody preference (from the 80's) such as Calif.

I did a lot of research (great reference book 'Mothers on Trial) during my custody battle while representing myself during a hard fought custody battle. The reason why usually is that a father will prevail is mainly because they have the better resources (more money to provide a stable home, adequate childcare, greater income to provide for child's expenses, etc..). Of course in any case some factors may prohibit men if they have a history of domestic violence.
Crumpet said…
@MustySyphone and Lt Uhura,

How I got my Nutty name...Crumpet, a small pancake or batter cooked in a pan which used a crampet or metal ring to surround the batter [I am trying to become more like the metal ring, as opposed to just batter as I move thru life, it is hard to do for me] I took a bite into my first crumpet when I lived in Belfast, but now am back in the US PNW. Thank you, Nutties!
DesignDoctor said…
@Ava C
That is a wonderful idea. JH needs to learn a work ethic for sure!
@lt. Uhura,

The orginal Lt. Uhura really DID have grace and elegance, didn't she? I always thought she was so beautiful and sophisticated.
lizzie said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura,

I agree but said "probably" about Archie because there are questions about his general status. For example, if it was a surrogate birth, adoption would be required under UK law. But I agree Harry's situation is the iffy one. But really, I kind of doubt he's chomping at the bit to become a US citizen anyway.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
@lt. Uhura,

The orginal Lt. Uhura really DID have grace and elegance, didn't she? I always thought she was so beautiful and sophisticated.

_________________

Indeed she did. The actress, Nichelle Nichols, almost quit the show, but none other than Dr. Martin Luther King urged her to stay on and be a role model.

She did, and I am so glad. The actress was almost as lovely as the character she played :)

Always will be my role model :)

--------------

lizzie said...
@Lt. Nyota Uhura,

I agree but said "probably" about Archie because there are questions about his general status. For example, if it was a surrogate birth, adoption would be required under UK law. But I agree Harry's situation is the iffy one. But really, I kind of doubt he's chomping at the bit to become a US citizen anyway.
______________

@ lizzie --

You are right. Fauxchie's status will always be in limbo, I'm thinking.
Fairy Crocodile said…
"Thank you for your support, inspiration and commitment to the good in the world" they say in their final post to their followers.

Do you get it people? They classify themselves as the "good in the world". That is what the wording says.

Megalomania or delusions of grandeur?
Crumpet said…
@Wild Boar, Yankee Doodle, Anon

Karma and reincarnation--if MM came back... I think a bee [not to disparage bees]. Not the Queen, but a lowly worker bee, a female bee that lacks the reproductive capacity of the Queen.
@Lt. Nyota Uhura

Thank you so much for the info., much appreciated. I’m British, so was curious about the variants on gaining an American citizenship. πŸ€—
Unknown said…
Emma here! Has this been shared yet? Opinion piece in today's Times, very very well written:

Coronavirus: the great leveller. Infecting princes and prime ministers, making hermits of most, hushing the concrete council estate and the millionaires’ leafy square. And yet some still seem to soar above it all. Last week it was reported that, just before Trudeau and Trump closed the longest border in the world, a private jet soared over it, bearing our lately departed Duke and Duchess of Sussex from their hideout in Canada to their new home in California.

It is said that the couple are living in a compound near Hollywood, where they plan to settle permanently. Speaking of their hasty flight, a source declared that because “the borders were closing and flights were stopping”, Harry and Meghan “had to get out”, making Canada sound more like a chaotic war zone than a country of gentle folk and maple syrup pancakes.

The timing of this move might delicately be described as tactless. As Prince Charles fights Covid-19, as hundreds die and thousands grieve, and millions suffer distress and financial uncertainty; as a quarter of the world’s population are allowed little further than their own front door, the duke and duchess chose this moment to display their wealth and the freedom it can buy, to sever ties more definitively from crown and Commonwealth, to further their own interests.

Indeed, the timing is so crass that we have to wonder whether it was deliberate. Perhaps, to paraphrase that odious line coined on 9/11, the Sussexes thought this pandemic was “a good time to bury difficult news”? If this was the rationale, it was entirely wrong. Making the move to California, and making it now, only inflames the irritation many feel over the couple’s actions in recent months.

I am one of those who thought the union of Harry and Meghan an exciting thing for our country. The woman is beautiful, charismatic, blessed with Cleopatra-like poise. She glows as though lit from within by 1,000 watts. Harry’s discovery of Meghan seemed as great a boon to Britain as the uncovering of a fresh field of oil in the North Sea. Then came Megxit part 1: a disappointing rejection of this nation by those who had been offered all its riches on a plate. Still, we could find it in our hearts to understand their need for a life away from the spotlight; we could give them credit for staying within the Commonwealth, and we could be hopeful about their pledge to spend a lot of time in Britain.
Unknown said…
Ctd- Now Megxit part 2 has blown those charitable assumptions about part 1 out of the water. The couple who professed to hate media intrusion have headed to a place where their every move will be captured by paparazzi. The people who make so much of their bonds with the Commonwealth — and who reportedly toyed with a move to Africa — have moved out of it. The duke and duchess who still style their communications with a crown motif, whose brand is explicitly built on the back of the British royal family, have decided that in this moment of crisis they will leave the old firm to it.

According to the Times report on the couple’s move, “the royal family is said to be disappointed that Prince Harry and Meghan have not returned to Britain to perform a supportive role.” Disappointed — exquisite understatement! The word carries the weight of 100 courtiers’ raised eyebrows, and the Queen’s own quiet despair. The theme of Her Majesty’s reign has been humility over haughtiness; whenever possible you stand beside your people, not above them. She learnt that from her mother, who insisted that she and King George VI stayed at Buckingham Palace during the Blitz, and who was “glad” when the Luftwaffe bombed the palace because it meant she could “look the East End in the face”.

Second Subaltern Elizabeth Windsor donned overalls in the Auxiliary Territorial Service and learned how to drive military trucks alongside other patriotic teenage girls. This is the record, so when her recent statement on coronavirus assured that “my family and I stand ready to play our part”, we knew she meant it. To such a woman, the decision of Harry and Meghan to move to California at this time must beggar belief. Showing solidarity through this crisis would not mean risking their lives or even leaving their home; just hunkering down at Frogmore Cottage and ordering in Deliveroo would have been enough for now, with perhaps a few hospital visits to praise NHS staff later on.

There will be those who argue that the couple have no obligation to this country at all, because their royal “contract” is now up. But the deal the Queen reached with the Sussexes left them with royal titles to enjoy, their security bill footed, the use of Frogmore Cottage — and thus a reasonable expectation that even though they might not be cutting ribbons on rainy days in Wigan, they would show some solidarity in a time of national crisis.

Unknown said…
ctd- Simply staying in Canada would at least have been inconspicuous (and would have made more sense given that coronavirus is rampaging through Los Angeles). Instead they have chosen this time to move to Hollywood and lay the foundations for lucrative new careers, not out of the spotlight but firmly in it.

Toes across the nation curled recently when footage emerged from last year’s The Lion King premiere showing Prince Harry telling a stunned Disney boss that his wife was available for voiceover work. Last week we saw the result, as the studio released the trailer for a new wildlife documentary voiced by “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex”. Disney’s writers didn’t miss a trick in the film’s tagline: “Powerful stories that show just how far family can take you.” Indeed.

This is what rankles about the Sussexes. Not, for goodness sake, the duchess’s race. Not her sex. It is the hypocrisy. While they have publicly and rather disrespectfully rejected the “shackles” of being British royals, they are only too happy to exploit the status that comes with it. But the price for the Dior and diamonds and adulation should be duty. It should be showing solidarity when the nation needs it, not sweeping in only for a few grand occasions. Contrast their behaviour with that of William and Kate, who have lent their weight to Public Health England’s campaign to protect people’s mental health during the coronavirus crisis.

Still, the Sussexes have made their choice. By making this move, at this time, the break with the royal family feels decisive. There is a loose end, though. We must hope that as they embark on their new lives, Harry and Meghan do the decent thing and seek to cover their own security costs. For Britain to maintain protection for the US-based couple would always have been unpopular; in the light of the coronavirus hit on our economy it is inconceivable. If the Sussexes are no longer servants of the British people, they should no longer expect to be supported by us either. -Fin-
@Lizzie, ‘Naturalization is the only way for Harry to become a US citizen. I included the oath he'd have to take in my earlier post. The one where he must disavow loyalty to foreign sovereigns. ‘

Yes I did see the oath, but I didn’t know/realise it was for naturalisation citizenship. I didn’t know that a person who had a royal or hereditary etc., title would have to renounce it under ‘all’ circumstances. You’ve clarified the circumstances and thank you for that. πŸ€—
Fairy Crocodile said…
Sorry I keep posting but the information is like waterfall:

Apparently they are pressing Instagram to simply move all their followers to the new account. Instagram is not doing this, it is against the rules. Harkles claim they are special.

But I suspect Insta will cave in.
FrenchieLiv said…
Prince William wants to return as air ambulance pilot to ‘do his bit’ in fight against coronavirus!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11290259/coronavirus-prince-william-air-ambulance-return/
Sooz said…
I suspect Insta will cave as well ... they went along with wresting the account name from that guy supporting his local football club.
WalkHumbly said…
Ugh, I hope IG doesn’t cave in to them. If they break the files for the Harkles, they’ll have to do it for others, so I hope they remain firm.

I choked on this line: A royal insider claimed Meghan is terrified because of the financial pressure they are now under and suggested the Duchess has ordered Prince Harry to find a job.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1262201/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-news-Duke-Duchess-of-Sussex-funding-royal-family-latest
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties,

Titles, naturalization, green cards etc..

JH can live in the US for many years without going for naturalization with just a green card--valid for 10 years and can be renewed easily. After he gets his green card [which should take on avg 6 months, maybe less for him, maybe more with the corona backlog], as long as he can show employment or ability to support he will be okay with a green card.

JH will not be the first prince to parade around in Hollywood. Prince Frederic von Anhalt, Duke of Saxony and Westphalia, Count of Ascania bought his title [initially he bought his title from the Principality of Sealand, a fake country which exists on an almost abandonded platform off the coast of England] and showed up in a rented limo, with rented body guards and rented medals on his chest and bagged himself a fading star, Zsa Zsa Gabor, her ninth and final husband. Zsa Zsa finally got to be royalty [her mother's dream] and the "Prince" was able to live in the lifestyle he wanted.

Perhaps, MM was inspired by this story...
WalkHumbly said…
And this, from a “royal insider”!

"Harry has given up on real life for his rebellious American wife, but his sacrifice is exploding in his face.

"Their marriage is tense, they could be at a breaking point."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1262201/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-news-Duke-Duchess-of-Sussex-funding-royal-family-latest

@Crumpet,’ Titles, naturalization, green cards etc..

JH can live in the US for many years without going for naturalization with just a green card--valid for 10 years and can be renewed easily......’

Many thanks is for this. I had heard about the 10 year thing years ago, which is why I was confused when I read the citizenship info., on here. πŸ€—

However with Harry, acquiring the Green Card is going to be a challenge surely, what work will he do apart from being Megsy’s lapdog and handbag holder? πŸ˜„
Quoting The Times: 'Speaking of their hasty flight, a source declared that because “the borders were closing and flights were stopping”, Harry and Meghan “had to get out”, making Canada sound more like a chaotic war zone than a country of gentle folk and maple syrup pancakes.'

Speaking from experience, one can get into a chaotic war with a rutting moose, or overly-protective mother beaver, but that is quite rare.

Honestly, these two are just ridiculous. They aren't even mildly credible, or amusing in their lack or credibility. They are an insult to the human race. I am thrilled that they have left but commiserate with our friends to the South.
gabes_human said…
@Lt. Uhara...
Saint Gabriel Brutus Caesar was 180 lbs of drooling shedding St Bernard. He allowed me to live in his house because I could open the refrigerator and drive him to the ice cream store. He hated dog food so I cooked 10 lb hunks of beef for him and used that to disguise the dry dog food and veggies that he needed too. He owned me rather than the other way around. Yes, I did put a tea towel on the fridge handle so he could grab it in his huge maw and open the door but he preferred I do it for him. Butter left out in the counter didn’t stand a chance nor did my chocolate stash in the bedside table. He crossed the Rainbow Bridge in 2007 and I still miss him desperately despite having three other Saint since. Hint: any St Bernard breeders out there-in in the process of buying another house with a yard and these is no slobber or dog hair in any of my possessions any longer. I have an empty spot in my heart that needs doggy cuddles. I have been Gabes Human since 1995.
bootsy said…
I wouldn't get too hung up on Harry's immigration status. He is worth millions from a trust fund, has guaranteed income from it and will also be able to show discretionary income from his father. If he was just a normal citizen with those finances and his actress wife then he would breeze into the USA and be allowed to live there.
Add on the fact that he is not a normal citizen, therefore he will receive preferential treatment. He'll be just fine.
Ava C said…
Article out today in Town & Country:

Buckingham Palace Will No Longer Comment on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a31979013/buckingham-palace-meghan-markle-prince-harry-no-longer-comment/

I guess we knew this but it's still something to see it in print. Does this mean in ALL circumstances, no matter how crazy it gets? I guess so. The BRF is impregnable where this kind of thing is concerned. Tremendous self-control but at an institutional level.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Ava C

Isn't it supposed to be a year long "transitional" period? Buck Palace didn't waste any time distancing from the duo already.

Not that they commented much before. The usual refrain was "Buckingham Palace refused to comment".
@bootsy,’I wouldn't get too hung up on Harry's immigration status.’

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, and I totally agree.
Ava C said…
@Fairy Crocodile - I was just catching up on the Harry Markle blog which mentions that 'ridiculous' transitional or trial period or whatever it is. As if it will take a year for them to implode. The wheels are coming off already and the transitional year hasn't actually started yet (2 mins to midnight here, when it will then be their last day as working royals). Working royals. What a joke.

Yes, the Palace rarely comments anyway, but they seem to be making of point of this, which is not like them. These things are usually unsaid.

Midnight now. The last day begins. How long can they survive in their trial period I wonder, without admitting surrender in some way? Although of course they are already in surrender as they still need Harry's daddy's money.

The Harry Markle Blog mentioned some Duchy of Cornwall rents are being increased. If so, I hope this is reconsidered given Covid-19 and the massive financial hit so many are taking. PC seemed to go out of his way to help tenants in that Duchy of Cornwall documentary and there seemed to be genuine respect for him from tenants, so it would be yet another sad and wicked - yes wicked - thing to lay at the Harkles door if so. It could only be because of their continued, unrealistic and unjustifiable demands. But that's for PC to sort out. The remedy is in his hands. We're all watching him.
Why does the Palace have to go into these great explanations on behalf of these two? Like they are misunderstood angels or something of that nature. @Raspberry Ruffle. I need to to change your handle please :) Every time I see it, I can taste them. Bounties and RRs are my favourite sweeties ever but sugar gives me even worse migraines so it is pure torture. They sell them in Victoria - and I have to be dragged past the store.
Unknown said…
My guess why Buckingham Palace Is declaring they are no longer commenting about the Sussexes is because they probably see a lot of scandal down the road for them and also because they can wash their hands of them when the Sussexes make a point of “defending” themselves instead of maintaining stiff upper lips. BRF not “standing up for them” or correcting the evil media when they schilled “fake news” about them was reportedly a sore point between H&M and the BRF.
xxxxx said…
A nieuw Harry Markle today. Not yet mentioned?
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/03/30/the-end-of-sussex-royal-cui-bono/
Ava C said…
@Charade - My guess why Buckingham Palace Is declaring they are no longer commenting about the Sussexes is because they probably see a lot of scandal down the road for them [...]

Yes I agree entirely. After all, the royal family has never had to deal with a couple like this before. I think if by chance Wallis Simpson could be transplanted to the 21st-century, she would still have kept quiet and behaved properly. After all she desperately tried to extract herself as Edward VIII was hurtling towards abdication. Meghan would have been dragging him down even faster so she could then swan around saying that her husband gave up an empire for her, while laying plans to get half the money he'd stashed away before dumping him. Could you imagine Meghan putting up with decades of boredom, supporting her husband through a horrible terminal illness and only getting civilised levels of publicity throughout? Meghan's a barracuda.

I was thinking a few nights ago, in tremendous financial uncertainty due to Covid-19 with a house move suspended between exchange and completion, that I still wouldn't change places with the Harkles, for all their wealth. That's quite something to realise. How many of you would change places with them in their situation? Of course we wouldn't have got into that situation in the first place, but it does bear thinking about. To have converted all that privilege and stability - knowing you would never be homeless, never be unemployed, always have wonderful food and comfort and medical care, able to travel the world - into what is really quite a scary situation. Without family, less protection, less deference, financial insecurity (despite the trust funds because Meghan will spend it ALL) and the laughing stock of the world. All accomplished in less than two years.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Harry and Meghan are a pair of dysfunctional personages.

They will be gone after the COVID-19 crisis.

They have no idea of what they are doing. Everything is done on the fly.
If Instagram were to make an exception for the Harkles and move their followers to a new account, wouldn’t that open the door for others who have been denied that service to sue Insta?? Any lawyers among the Nutties?
Ava C said…
I usually have no time for the Express but they have quite a number of really hard-hitting headlines against the Harkles. See this poll, which is like another I noticed on Charlatan Duchess (94% negative from memory) as this is 96% negative:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1262561/Meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-late st-sussex-LA-California-move-update-poll

"An Express.co.uk poll of more than 15,000 people has found nine-in-ten respondents do not care about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex now they have abandoned the UK.

The survey conducted on Monday March 30 between 1.40pm and 10pm asked 15,114 people “Do you care about Meghan and Harry now that they live abroad?”

A huge 96 percent (14,393) of people had little interest in the royal couple and voted no.

Just three percent (578) of people were concerned with the life of Meghan and Harry and votes yes.

Meanwhile one percent (143) of participants remained undecided and voted don’t know.
Another question which I forgot to ask just now: Can anything published in the Daily Express be believed? It seems to be the least credible (and most sensationalized and dumbed down) of the British tabloids I have been exposed to online. Which admittedly isn’t many.
hunter said…
Havent' finished w/ all comments but wanted to chime in:

@FairyCrocodile said,

"It really doesn't matter in the States. Americans appear to have some good natured curiosity towards "real" royals who live outside of USA with their subject and only visit occasionally.

"Call me Harry" will be interesting for about five min for he was born real prince. Megsy? Nah.


As an American I agree 100%, I'm the only person I know who cares about these twats.

However, I slightly disagree with a lot of you about Harry's security (Just Harry) - as our very close ally and buddy, I believe we owe the UK the small courtesy of looking out for their prince boy while he is on our soil. I feel a bit strongly about this. I feel there should be some responsibility to ensure he is at least ... watched or protected or something.

I don't care about Meghan.

But yeah, as a close ally I do think we should at least keep some tabs on him or something.
Mimi said…
a “small courtesy”? to the tune of how many millions?
DesignDoctor said…
@Hunter
I disagree with you about the obligation of the US to provide security for JH. He willingly made his uncomfortable bed with Rach. Now they will have to reap what they have sown. It would be hard for me to think of any behavior that is worse than how those two have treated their families. They have been deceitful and dishonest to many including the British people. They have stomped all over the hospitality of the Canadian people. Even though it appeared that Rach was very nervous about them accepting the Harkles. Remember Rach's sweaty pits that day?
They are users. The US should not be used by these two grifters.
My 2 cents.
MustySyphone said…
I'm with you Design Doctor
YankeeDoodle said…
A few people on the blog have innocently, I believe, written that Mugsy/Bugsy has her toes curled under. Where is Toto when you need him? Or a bucket of water? A house falling on a green witch?

A month or two ago, many people were insulted, angered, chopping at their bits to tell the Praying Mantis and her headless loser where they can stuff iI. In the past two or so days, the tide (not the Tide detergent that is being hoarded by the headless Hirney and his Green Mantis) has turned towards normal discussion regarding abnormal weirdos. What are their purpose in our lives? Why should anybody, including Chuck and his desperate Cornish tenants, or the Queen, who needs to taken less pounds from taxpAyers, givea cent to these conniving Penguins?
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CatEyes said…
@hunter said...

>>>as our very close ally and buddy, I believe we owe the UK the small courtesy of looking out for their prince boy while he is on our soil. I feel a bit strongly about this. I feel there should be some responsibility to ensure he is at least ... watched or protected or something.<<<

Let's see as our ally, I think the Queen will completely understand our position, afterall her commonwealth country Did Not want to fund the 'their prince boy'. With the polls coming out it seems the UK public feels strongly about not caring to see them go (and its little prince boy's own subjects). So who are we to override the sentiment of the UK public and their disinterest.

Surely the Queen with her vast millions can take care of her little 'prince boy'. Oh and of Course Papa Charles should provide for his little son again and again and again if the kittle 'prince boy' is too immature to take responsibility. Afterall the Queen as monarch and Charles as King in the future should respect the will of our supreme leader, the POTUS. Yes good allies should respect our needs and we can sure use those millions on our people certainly more so in these financially trying times.

Hmmmm, guess you might not have heard how bad off Calif is and some inmates are being released early. Our Law Enforcement Officers are paid for by taxpayers and they should receive the benefit of their monetary support rather than two cheap-skate Millionaires get their security bills paid. Harry needs to grow-up and pay his way in life. The UK does not pay for our A-list celebrities security

I guess I feel strongly about this just like @Henrietta's sickening post yesterday which was more outrageous with her reasons why we should pay for the Suchless Pair. I want to puke.

Glowworm said…
I’m puking right beside you Cat at the mere suggestion of paying one penny towards the protection of the middle aged ‘prince boy’ and his predatory insect of a wife. Hunter and Henrietta...and that Heney someone who hates my President...I’ve no time for you.
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I have not seen this article from the Telegraph posted on this blog as yet, so I will copy and paste it. If it is redundant I ask your forgiveness.

Meghan and Harry's LA move may be their worst yet
CELIA WALDEN

Part 1:

Fun fact: Petra Manor – the 12,249 sq. ft, £15 million Malibu mansion that Meghan and Harry are said to be “smitten by” – was once occupied by Kylie Jenner.

That’s the lilo-lipped youngest member of the Kardashian clan, should your pop culture need refreshing, a 22-year-old cosmetic “entrepreneur” whose inspirational quotes include: “I would want to hopefully start more businesses, and just be, like, a businesswoman.”

Why it should matter that the Sussexes would prefer to live there, and in LA, than in a historic British, Grade II country home commissioned by Queen Charlotte in 1801 – a royal retreat previously occupied by the father of novelist Henry James, whose own inspirational quotes included: “Three things in human life are important: the first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind” – I don’t know.

But I do know why the revelation that Meghan and Harry had “left Canada and are now settled in LA” on Friday has prompted the annoyance it has.

It is just annoyance; our anger currently being reserved for the spherical particle with a “corona” of spikes that’s killing tens of thousands across the world and has brought our lives to a standstill. Only not Harry and Meghan, you understand, who chose this moment to leave the Vancouver smokescreen of a bolthole they had been residing in since Megxit, and hop on a private jet to the place that had been their final destination all along: Hollywood.

It felt sneaky, because it was sneaky, like so many of the soon-to-be-ex royals’ actions – from the setting up of their own breakaway Royal faction and the assertion that they wanted to “step back” (and not forward, into a carefully choreographed and lucrative limelight of their own choosing), to the blurring of their intention “to balance our time between the United Kingdom and North America”.

Why not just come out and say it? Because, as I wrote in this very column three months ago: “If you rephrase that statement ‘We’ve had enough – we’re off to La La Land’, it confirms every ruthless social-climbing, celebrity-seeking stereotype Meghan has worked hard to rebut.”

Only in Los Angeles, I pointed out, can Meghan not so much have her cake and eat it, as scoop off the icing and cast the boring, dry part aside. Only there, can the couple ditch the duty and the criticism, whilst retaining all the status and the perks. Celebrity hypocrisy, it’s important to understand, isn’t just accepted in LA but de rigueur.

Only they’d overlooked one thing: namely that the President of the US has the memory of an elephant and the petulance of a toddler. He wasn’t about to forget Meghan calling him “divisive” and “misogynistic” on a talk show in 2016, just as he wasn’t about to forget the former actress’s assertion that she could never live in a Trumpian America.

So when he took to Twitter on Sunday to tell the world that, despite being “a great friend and admirer of the Queen & the United Kingdom […] the US will not pay for [Harry and Meghan’s] security protection” – adding for emphasis: “They must pay!” – it was pretty clear that POTUS wasn’t just talking about the estimated £8 million-a-year bill that has hitherto been covered by the British taxpayer.

I am a great friend and admirer of the Queen & the United Kingdom. It was reported that Harry and Meghan, who left the Kingdom, would reside permanently in Canada. Now they have left Canada for the U.S. however, the U.S. will not pay for their security protection. They must pay!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 29, 2020
Part 2:

The couple hit back yesterday, saying they didn’t expect the US to pay, and that “privately funded security arrangements have been made”. But their pique was as obvious as it had been in their infamous response to the Queen telling them they could no longer sell themselves as “Royal” after stepping down.

That ban comes into force tomorrow, when the Duke and Duchess officially cease to be working royals. But anyone thinking this will impact either the couple’s social standing or their earning capacity is wrong. It’s not simply about who you are in LA, but who you know – and how good a performer you’ve proved yourself to be.

So just as a hefty percentage of Angelenos would probably curtsey to both Dame Helen Mirren and Olivia Colman, convinced that something Queen-like or royal must have rubbed off on them, people will continue to bow and curtsey to the Sussexes as they make their pots of cash and settle into the Malibu home that boasts “an enormous dedicated theatre room”, “full-size dance studio”, “culinary wonder” of a kitchen, and “vast pool and pool-side cabana”.

But as the pair are branded “distant memories” in the UK by royal biographer Penny Junor - in stark contrast to the other members of the royal family, who are helping to combat the deadly coronavirus pandemic – and Canada mourns what it is branding “Megxit 2” (“It’s Canada that deserves to feel ‘stunned and horrified’,” the Toronto Star remarked after their hasty departure) – it seems unlikely that there won’t be more Megxits to come.
YankeeDoodle said…
Nope. No. Non. Nein. Harry gets zero from Americans. He should move to North Korea - I bet he will get everything he needs there coming to him.

What a wimp we are talking about. Wimp. Wimp.,Wimp... liar, cheater, coward, loser. COWARD, CHEATER, LOSER. WIMP. TWAT. TWITl

Go home, you headless insect.
CatEyes said…
@Anon-Unknown said...

>>>We all agree here that Harry needs to be protected no matter where he goes..."

I don't agree. If Bill Gates can go about walking in public without security then Harry can, and Meghan can too. Lot's of celebrities go without security. I know I am minimizing it but egads, why would it take original estimate 20 million, then 8-10 million now just 4 million???? I wonder if Harry and Meg was trying to pull a scam and get $20 million and pocket a bunch of cash and only use 4 million.

Besides who would want to kidnap a trollop like Meghan...can you imagine the grating voice screaming and then Archie is just a rubber Realborn doll. Harry if kidnap would probably die of freight the wimp that he is and what would kidnappers get for a dead victim. Unfortunately, we are going to be reading about these two awful human beings for quite a long time here in the US. Our media unlike the civil restrained UK media will report on anything as banal as Meghan bunions and Harry farting in public. (This is tongue-in-check as I do not wish them any harm whatsoever.)
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Another question (sorry, but I have cabin fever): Although it is admirable of PW to want to return to being an air ambulance pilot to help out during the CV outbreak, I am not sure this is a good idea. Yes, he is an experienced and able pilot. But helicopters are dangerous. And no one wants Harry to advance in line to the throne.
Glowworm said…
Cat, who is pictured in your avi?
Glowworm said…
Cat, It looks Like Carol Baskin...
CatEyes said…
@Gloworm

It's me. I will have to look up who Carol Baskin is...funny coincidence, Carol is my first name.
The Harkles have hired former SAS agents to protect them, per the Sun:
PRINCE Harry is hiring a crack team of former SAS soldiers to keep his family safe.

The unit will provide protection for him, wife Meghan and baby Archie after their move to LA.

Each security guard his expected to cost the couple at least £400 a day
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Each security guard his expected to cost the couple at least £400 a dayCredit: PA:Press Association
The couple chose from a shortlist of two firms whose staff have guarded superstars including Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman and Madonna, as well as senior politicians and diplomats.

The Sun has agreed not to name those guarding the couple due to safety concerns.

A source said: “It doesn’t come cheap — in the region of £400 per operative per day, which will quickly add up with a team on hand around the clock.

“The overall bill will be many tens of thousands of pounds, but Harry and Meghan are huge celebrities, at least on par with the biggest A-listers in the world.
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CatEyes said…
@Anon-Unknown

Yes I agree with you in theory but there have been other British royalty living in Canada (Prince Andrew when young) and I believe it was Princess Beatrice in NYC.

Additionally; "Princess Madeleine of Sweden announced this week that she and her husband, Christopher O'Neill, are moving to Florida with their preschool-aged children (August 4, 2018)."

Many Saudi Arabian Princes have gotten a college education in American (and surely they might have security threats).

Harry's involvement in the military has been over-hyped I think. I don't think he was any war hero/

Audie Murphy was the most decorated US war hero of WWII and he came home and Famously starred in many movies (he was from the area where I live now) and he lived without security not fearing the Germans were going to kill him after the war's end.

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CatEyes said…
@Rebecca B

So approx. 400 UK = $492.agent/day x 3 = $1,476/day x 365 = Only $538,740

If I did it right that comes to only a little more than 1/2 million dollars not $8-20 million dollars first mentioned. Geesh, the Harkles was trying to scam us.

That wasn't even $4 million dollars they are saying they need now. What money grubbing liars!
xxxxx said…
CatEyes said...
Besides who would want to kidnap a trollop like Meghan...can you imagine the grating voice screaming and then Archie is just a rubber Realborn doll.

CatEyes you win tonight for the first pairing of Meghan and trollop in this blog. Trollop has such a great sound to it. It's an oldie, no millennial or under 30 something has ever seen it used.
The crux is that The Harkles had all of the protection they needed to be safe if they had stayed in GB. Well, that just didn't suit them or the lifestyle they had planned for themselves as world jet setters and international influencers. Any sane person would have stayed or returned, not just for their physical safety (and that of their child), but because their elderly parent, grandparents and other members of the BRF just might have needed their help. But The Harkles decided that money and fame were more important than honor, family and country.

They chose their life as it is now. They are not protected people, merely a couple who is jobless in a world at crisis. Let them have what they said wanted- to be financially independent. With financial independence comes a bill for their personal protection force. Either Charles pays or the Harkles do. If they cant afford it, well, that's a part of financial independence, too.

Unfortunately, I think there will be plenty of hangers-on who will hope that a little bit or royalty will rub off on them in Hollywood. A studio, production company or just very wealthy Hollywood types people like Ellen, the Clooneys, and Oprah and Gayle will pull strings behind the scenes to get MM work and/or monetary backers for their new mansion and their glitzy lifestyle. They aren't going to starve unless the pate, champagne and caviar run out.
@CatEyes,
Looking at your mathematics, is the X3 for three agents a day on 8-hour shifts or is it for three agents, one each for Just Harry, MM and Archie? Every time they split up, two or three agents will be needed, and they never seem to all be in the same place at the same time.
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Harry has been hunting for most of his life. Why not just buy him a rifle, and he can sit on a rocking chair on the front porch and guard the mansion and his family, Beverly Hillbillies-style!
Portcitygirl said…
JocelynsBellinis

At this point, they are such a train wreck, it's hard to look away. I notice the above stars aren't dumb enough to flout their opulent wealth while they self quarantine either like some other dummy celebs. People are not amused and resentment is building. This virus has really highlighted wealthy vs the peasants. I would love to see some big donations coming from the above mentioned that could go to our cash strapped hospitals. I know of only a few. Reese was one. I think Simon C gave something. Donations. That is what we should be calling for
Portcitygirl said…
Anon-Unknown

Giant cuke- that is so funny! Thanks for the laugh. Hard to come by these days.
HappyDays said…
Some of us nutties think Mayhem will be dumping Harry soon.

I’m going to have to disagree. I think Meghan will be “pregnant” again soon for multiple reasons.

She’ll be 39 in early August. Getting pregnant again will generate media interest again, especially regarding her likely decision to give birth in the US as a way to assert narcissistic control and thumb her nose at all of those meanies in the RF and the UK public.

And: If one of her eggs was actually used in the conception of Archie in whatever manner he arrived on earth, her number of eggs is dwindling by tens of thousands each month, plus as every month passes, the genetic material in each egg is degrading and the chances for having either a child with an intellectual disability or one of a myriad of other genetically-linked disorders that can result from damaged DNA in an old egg.

She’s got a time factor to think about. Yes, women have healthy babies into their 40s. But there are also greater chances for problems even if a baby appears healthy in all the prenatal testing, there are some problems you can’t test for, such as autism.

Lastly: A second baby, especially a dual citizen child born in the US, gives Meghan a spare prop for merching, especially if its a girl, another insurance policy, and bargaining chip number two she can weaponize just as she weaponized Archie by not bringing him to London for their final round of appearances so as to punish HMTQ and Charles. In her warped mind, she likely got a big dose of narcissistic fuel by asserting control over the Queen of England and the Prince of Wales as a parting shot.



But
@Portcitygirl,

Like Geffen and his yacht. How blind and self-absorbed can he be?
I agree wholeheartedly. Donations should be rolling in from these wealthy people. It has become a class war, hasn't it, down to who gets tested first.
HappyDays said…
Oops! Apologies for “But” appearing at the bottom of the post. I don’t know where that came from. Damn phone keyboard!
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Good Morning Britain (ITV) Piers & Susanna going through the papers - S dismissed P, regarding Smirkles,` Let's not waste any more time on ?them/those two'. (Sorry, can't remember precisely
which she said.)

Anyway, I almost punched the air and shouted `Yes!'

They moved swiftly on to the report that PW wants to go back to the Air Ambulance service. The news was welcomed.
@HappyDays,

I don't think she will dump Just Harry now or in the near future, either. He is her meal-ticket and provides all of the inroads to the money and fame she is seeking. Without him, she is less than nothing. Hollywood and the business world wouldn't even look at her. She needs him now for her world domination plan.

As for another baby, I think she will have another, only because of the reasons you mentioned- a girl for merching purposes and to flaunt her bump around Hollywood for the press. She will think she needs and heir and a spare.

The only reason she would dump Just Harry right now is if a very wealthy man came into the picture, one with billions. She would jump at that. We all know that she finds her next mark before she ends the relationship with the last one. That's her MO.

If things get tough, and she isn't getting anywhere in business or Hollywood, I think she would get pregnant again, dump Harry and lumber around Hollywood, saying that HE dumped her. That would be huge news that she would make money on, while she hides the billionaire until the time is right to introduce her "new love" to the public.

Even with a billionaire husband, she still needs that adoration fix, and would still work toward world domination and a Hollywood career. She just can't help herself. She will try to upstage the importance of the billionaire. I think she will end up with more ex-husbands than Elizabeth Taylor.
Portcitygirl said…
JocelynsBellinis

I agree. People won't forget. They are vulgar and demented to push this in people's faces during this time. I also read, no idea if it's true, that Trump is sending supplies to Italy.
I feel for them, but we don't even have enough masks to go around. So what gives?

AnonUnknown

Thank you and Magatha, as well as many other Nutties, for providing some much needed humor!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
Harry has been hunting for most of his life. Why not just buy him a rifle, and he can sit on a rocking chair on the front porch and guard the mansion and his family, Beverly Hillbillies-style!
___________________________________

Hahahahaha!

Meanwhile, the anti-Ellie May swims in the see-ment pond, LOL

(That is, when the anti-Jethro isn't canoodling!)
@CatsEyes

A brilliant chimera - wonderful image! Thank you.


Every `setting up your own business' seminar I've ever been to has insisted that one does a SWOT analysis at the start:

Strengths - Weaknesses - Opportunities - Threats.

Completely blinded by the fantasy `Opportunities', they ignored the rest...

What a pair of tossers.

RPOs are paid out of the Metropolitan Police budget. This is allowed for in Government funding ie sourced from taxpayer. Anything over and above that impacts on funding for policing London and the Met has said, very firmly, that they can't afford it.

My suggestion would be:

1.Call H home, with `Archie' if he has any existence beyond being a stuffed siren-suit, assisted by US refusing him any sort of residential status. Then keep him out of public view/mischief by whatever means necessary.

2.But only if She is left behind (rescind any UK visa). Let her live as an `ordinary' US citizen and take the consequences she's brought on herself.

If H refuses to leave her and is allowed to stay in US. they're on their own.

The public mood is heading towards a general `Let them lie on the bed they've made for themselves'.
Let's pray/keep fingers crossed/do-whatever-it-takes-to-influence-fate that a willing billionaire comes into sight. Any suggestions as to who might be her next target?

Or will she have to look for some rich sheikh? That could be very entertaining.

Karma is a bitch.
@Wild Boar Battle-maid

My money’s on Elon Musk.
Portcitygirl said…
If she marries a shiek she would probably have to convert to Islam. They don't like divorce though.
Ava C said…
Would have to be a pretty dumb billionaire though. Only staggering beauty and/or style would keep her relevant to such people now, given she scores no points on personality or even basic common-sense. She can look lovely but she's not in that league, despite the obscene spending on her clothes (let down, like the rest of her life, by her inattention to detail).

Every day that passes makes it all the more obvious that anyone she pairs up with will be an international laughing stock. Harry's 'royal' gilt is wearing off fast thanks to her. People can see where the real British royalty are. They're in Britain.
lizzie said…
Re: the cost of the security team and @CatEyes' math

It's unclear to me exactly how many agents they need. Obviously more when they aren't all in one place or even in one country. But the previous estimates on the cost of Metro Police RPOs contained costs a SAS team wouldn't so it makes sense @CatEyes' estimate is lower than what had been publicized.

When RPOs travel abroad (like to Canada), their transportation back and forth, their meals, and their daily lodging has to be paid for. That's true even if the royal family is going on a relatively brief vacation as it would be if the royal is relocating to a new country. And those costs are passed on to the taxpayer. When H&M travel, whether within the US or abroad, I'm sure they'll have additional expenses with the SAS team too.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Markle doesn't seem to think things through.

"Oh wow! THIS will be the *thing*!!!

Harry seems to think the same.
Concerning the Vice documentary (the clue's in the name of the company)
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/meghan-leaving-royal-family-british-people-fault-093202557.html

Lies, all lies. The comments are stinging.

Canada's waking up to what she did to us.
Sandie said…
@Rebecca B:
@Wild Boar Battle-maid

My money’s on Elon Musk.

The thing with Elon Musk is he is a genius, albeit a loud-mouthed and not always acting wisely one (remember the fling with Amber Heard?). He would see through the 'I think I am so smart word salad' and all the really bad 'just mot working out' schemes for global fame and wealth it would just annoy him.
Henrietta said…
Al Qaeda threaten to kidnap PH:

https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/al-qaeda-threatens-to-kidnap-prince-harry/articleshow/5909

Osama bin Laden tracked Harry:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/osama-bin-laden-prince-harry-iraq-cia-files-pakistan-abbottabad-a8037141.html
@LightHealer
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Oh, leave them alone.

Let's keep our eyes on the prize.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Hunter

Your sentiment that US has to keep an eye on Harry because UK is an ally does you honor. You must be a very decent person. My great concern is Harry will not value it. In his eyes he is perpetually wronged by everybody. The duo insulted UK, then Africa, then Canada. They will do this to USA too. They do not deserve good will.

@Happy Days.

Yes, she might get pregnant to keep attention and merching (horrible!), especially now when virus cut all other options for attention. But consider this: "pregnancy" will severely limit her value as actress for at least nine months, may be more. She is nearing 40, a fight to keep in shape will not be easy. Another fake pregnancy still requires a big bump used for several months. What does she have on her plate? Ingenue in cable show, 1 min sex scene, voice over clawed from Dinsney? Not much to show in Hollywood for a 40 years old former obscure "influencer".
Her best bet is "humanitarian", but she failed in this. What she really wants is acting, and can't afford wasting any time.

Another major factor we forget about is competition. Hollywood is full of actors and some of them are really really good. Unlike Megsy. What sort of buttons can she push to get a role? Cornering Bob Iger worked only once.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Henrietta

I suspect Al Q. targets have changed a bit since Bin Laden's days. Sure if Harry walks into the cross lines they will pull the trigger. But I doubt they will go into trouble of hunting him down in complicated expensive operation.

If he thinks he is in danger the worst ever thing he could do is moving on a permanent basis out of the country that knows all about protecting royals and has a well designed system to achieve this.

No, he didn't think anything through, created problems for the whole countries and made himself a laughing stock in the process.

Most people will say "How dreadful, how sad, let's have a candle vigil...but shouldn't he have thought it before he left?" if something happens to him outside of the UK.
HappyDays said…
From the DM:
Meghan Markle's Disney debut gets a drubbing from critics: Narration of Elephant documentary is branded 'over-eager to please' and packed with 'schmaltz and cheesiness'

Well, she’s mediocre at best as an actress, so it’s no wonder she can’t do a voiceover.

Another wrench in her plans to claim her “rightful” (in her mind only) place in Hollywood. This does not bode well for acting gigs rolling in. Who, especially now, wants to risk millions of dollars, their company’s reputation and credibility and their own professional reputation and credibility on an entitled brat with limited talent when far more talented people are plentiful who are easy to work with? Likely not many takers for her limited talents.
HappyDays said…
I just wonder who or what she will blame for the Disney debacle?
Himmy said…
@Hunter - Many Afghanistan translators who worked for US are left behind by US military and they and their family are hunted by Taliban. They deserve more help than Harkles.

If Harkles want to stay safe, they need to adjust their behaviors, but they just do whatever they want and expect other people to pick up the tab.

How many lives we can save if we use Harkles' security money to help the people who are really in desperate situation. We already paid expensive security for Meg's baby shower to satisfy her vanity. Enough is enough.
Ava C said…
@Rebecca B:
@Wild Boar Battle-maid

My money’s on Elon Musk.

The thing with Elon Musk is he is a genius, albeit a loud-mouthed and not always acting wisely one (remember the fling with Amber Heard?). He would see through the 'I think I am so smart word salad' and all the really bad 'just mot working out' schemes for global fame and wealth it would just annoy him

*****

Have you seen the Kyle Dunnigan clip when he's being Elon Musk, Kylie and Caitlin Jenner? Musk trying to talk to airhead Kylie. So funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4z1ghy_Zyw

He's the same guy who does the brilliant Meghan impressions. Everyone's dying for him to do some more. Hugely popular online. He would finish Meghan off if he put all his energies into doing more. It would be Sarah Palin and Tina Faye all over again.
abbyh said…

Tend to agree with you Happy Days about Baby 2. I think this would be easier to pull off if it is a surrogate as there won't be any pesky palace staffers about. In some ways, perhaps easier to control from that within the walls aspect. However, outside, the paps will be everything JH has said they were. And, if past history is any indicator of future behavior, she isn't good about consistency for the size of the bump.

WBBM - That documentary - fascinating that they treated different sources differently. If they were more of a background filler source, they made a point of shooting them as they were placed in with the lights but if the source enhanced their narrative, there was no such shots. I was also impressed how many of them (supporting our narritive) projected the ups and downs of what happened as if they were personally in that situation and therefore it was viewed and magnified through a lense of of that person's historical baggage about race. I am reminded of the saying: When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Anon-Unknown - Maybe I don't understand. If they are broke because they have actually, really paid back for FC, where on earth is the money for either rent or deposit to buy a house going to come from? I don't think they could buy all cash, so the local banks would want to see some sort of financial resources given that neither have a current job. (ah, but if they did pay all cash from JH's trust, that would limit her claim of this is community property).



Fifi LaRue said…
There are plenty of dumb billionaires. Just look at Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. Elon Musk is not far behind.

There won't be another "baby" as Meghan has worn out that schtick. One can't play a superhero while pregnant. She will be focused on losing weight, getting in shape and getting to a size 2 or 0. Anything over a size 2 is considered fat in Hollywood.
KCM1212 said…
I think additional costs for security mentioned when they went to Canada included security monitoring for their home (upgrades, cameras, fencing etc), and the armour plated Land Rovers they insist on using (remember they had several flown into South Africa for their tour there creating a lot of controversy). When Harry travelled to London in March he travelled First class, as did all of his staff and protection.

I thought at the time that the Met might have been exaggerating a bit whenever said the costs could be up to 20m. Stories of the RPOs fetching sandwiches and dry cleaning surfaced at the same time. It seemed to be a campaign to bring the British RPOs home where they were needed and to stop taxpayer funding for this pair of absolute ingrates.

Their ill-advised manifesto continues to haunt them. It will go down in history as an example of where overt entitlement gets you when you are dependent on public goodwill.
Sandie said…
Tarot anyone? There is a tarot reader who did some readings back in January before Megxit happened. She has unearthed them and posted the (what to do during lockdown?!).

They are short if anyone wants to have a look ...

https://keepingupwiththebananadramas.tumblr.com/post/614044480016891904/quick-readings-january-20-2020

https://keepingupwiththebananadramas.tumblr.com/post/614044474161676288/henry-rachel-vs-brf

https://keepingupwiththebananadramas.tumblr.com/post/614044421723422720/h-m-marriage-vision-there-are-arguments-but-then

Sandie said…
Just a thought ... surrogacy will be easier for Megsy to do while ensconced in Hollywood land. Harry will go along with it and Megys (probably also Harry) would love the controversy and endless articles about a baby born from a surrogate being in the in the of succession. It would get her miles of coverage in the press.
CatEyes said…
@JoceylnsBellinis

>>>@CatEyes,
Looking at your mathematics, is the X3 for three agents a day on 8-hour shifts or is it for three agents, one each for Just Harry, MM and Archie? Every time they split up, two or three agents will be needed, and they never seem to all be in the same place at the same time.>>>

@lizzie You are right my estimate was low. Wrote it when I was tired and didn't think things thru. Sorry folks!! :(

You are right...I only used the 3 agent a day (from the number another poster used upthread). I think there would be 12 hr shifts and 3 agents (1 for each H, M, and A) so double the number = 6 agents/day. Maybe 1 replacement for each agent (work one 12 hr shift then off) so this would require a total of 12 agents, possibly 16 agents. Also I think the quoted salary was low IMO (again used facts given)..

So this 12-16 agents needed increases my original estimate x 4-5 so approx. $2+ Million to $2.5+ Mil plus benefits, travel, accommodations (maybe guest house on property to house on-duty agents and immediate back-ups). So reported $4 million price tag is believable...BUT Not the original figure of $20 million which was being bandied about repeatedly (maybe negative PR to bring about public discontent, lol).
Marie said…
One will never know, but I do wonder if the whole Megxit, in particular the unseemly public scrabble over money and funding, was in part precipitated by Misha's marriage to Michael Hess, the oil heir/billionaire. In the very early beginning, she seemed to be ok and willing to play the role of commoner spouse to a royal. Yet jealousy is a terrible thing. Realising that her friend landed a a very rich and capable businessman due to both his family's wealth and his own personal initiative, as well as all the freedom associated with such amounts of wealth, whereas her own husband was no longer a catch. She saw that he was weak emotionally and having to support and be secondary to someone with such a lack of intelligence, it must have been hard to see Misha have the man and lifestyle she thought she should have had herself.
hunter said…
I've been thinking - what if it wasn't the Chinese OR the US government who "released" the COVID, maybe it was HMTQ's final fury at MM to really bury her in a sea of irrelevance.

I know it's morbid and not funny to anyone who has lost a loved one, but the idea makes me chuckle.
hunter said…
As for usernames, I really loved MustySyphone's story, if I received mail like that I would laugh too.

Sandie said…
@Marie: Oh I am sure that played a big role in her being so unhappy she was 'not thriving'.

She wanted the luxurious holiday homes in places where the elite congregate (like the holiday mansion of Elton's that they borrowed), not invitations to Balmoral.

She wanted to wear all the most expensive designer clothes that she can throw out after one wear, not a suitable working wardrobe to re-wear for decades.

Yes, she does covet the lifestyle and freedom that Misha has, and the immense wealth of her husband. Meghan loves to hustle but she does not want to HAVE to just to pay the bills because her husband does not have enough money for the lifestyle she wants.

Unlike Misha though, Megsy wants to be an Angelina Jolie ... walking the red carpet in eye-watering expensive clothes, accessories and jewellery on the weekend and rescuing the poor and 'helpless without Megsy to lift them up and empower them' on weekdays.
hunter said…
You guys are too funny, I've caught up on your reaction to my comment the US should protect their "prince boy," I'm glad you appreciated the moniker.

After I left my comment I considered the complexities and cost of what it would entail and no, I certainly don't want to front the cost myself.

Some ideas are well intentioned but not realistic in execution.

CatEyes is cracking me up and Rebecca B makes a good point about PRINCE Harry - nobody ever took away that title.
hunter said…
The Prince William helicopter story is heartwarming but probably a BRF PR plant.

Fact: the more virus you're exposed to the more likely you are to get sicker and sicker

Fact: Prince William is the only person the UK is hoping sticks around

So, they really can't afford to have him in that position, full stop.
hunter said…
And thank you FairyCrocodile, yes I make covid jokes but deep down I'm a very decent person.
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/

Meanwhile, the Duke [of Windsor], who only a few years earlier had given up throne, empire, riches and power for 'the woman I love’ [Wallis Simpson] was forced to sit out his wife’s menopausal fling with a gay playboy young enough to be her son.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2763725/The-night-Edward-confronted-Wallis-gay-lover-After-60-years-secret-notes-reveal-truth-playboy-pal.html
MustySyphone said…
@hunter

When you receive mail like that, all you can do is laugh!
Marie said…
"Unlike Misha though, Megsy wants to be an Angelina Jolie ... walking the red carpet in eye-watering expensive clothes, accessories and jewellery on the weekend and rescuing the poor and 'helpless without Megsy to lift them up and empower them' on weekdays."

I didn't think about that, but you're right. The comparison is also interesting. Meghan and Angelina Jolie seem to share a crippling insecurity that use charity to bring meaning to their lives. Jolie also managed to land a job as a visiting "professor", to round out the fact that she's not just beautiful externally with a beautiful soul internally, she's also whip-smart (gag). So in that, they have quite a bit in common too. If only the job role of fauxmanitarian would just disappear, but people are still dazzled.
@hunter said...

Fact: the more virus you're exposed to the more likely you are to get sicker and sicker


Can you provide a link to support this particular fact? The more virus you shed, the more people you can infect, but the severity of one's illness isn't dependent on the quantity of virus you are exposed to.
Mary Anne said…
Yeah, Obama reinstated it--just in time for his departure--there are still problems with security for our presidential nominees. Someone came in touching distance of Biden recently. I think the U.S. would turn on these two fast if they tried to make us pay for their security. Remember, not to long ago Sparkles was talking about giving up her U.S. citizenship so she would not have to pay taxes.
Mel in SoCal said…
Nutty I believe you are correct about the situation on Vancouver Island. The owner needed his house back, because VI would be a safe place to self quarantine so he asked them to leave.
I'm pretty sure they are in the Holmby Hills neighbourhood of Bel Air. It is very convenient and private whereas Malibu isn't a convenient place to live under normal circumstances and during the Covid19 pandemic it would be extremely challenging for newcomers. Everything is closed.
From what I've heard (second hand) is that they've moved into a small property designed by Max Azria. It was on the market, then pulled almost immediately. Well see and very soon because there are no secrets held for very long in L.A., they'll regret leaving the UK. Americans will show them none of the automatic respect they receive in the Commonwealth.

I just want to say nobody who is a native Californian calls it "Cali", it's tacky, it's like calling San Francisco "Frisco". Rude and uneducated to be sure.
I live on the Westside of L.A. and love it. It's paradise in my home and neighbourhood. The traffic is horrible but the ocean, the mild weather and the sun shining most of the time make it a great place to live!
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Mel in SoCal

I think you are right about Americans not showing "automatic respect" to them. There are many faults people like to point in Americans (as if all others are blameless) but there is one things US got right: respect should be earned.

If a spoilt brat happens to be blue blooded folk will not hesitate to call him a blue blooded spoilt brat. Harry is in for a shock.
OKay said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Concerning the Vice documentary (the clue's in the name of the company)
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/meghan-leaving-royal-family-british-people-fault-093202557.html

Lies, all lies. The comments are stinging.

Canada's waking up to what she did to us.

Trust me, we already know. Canadians by and large are not gullible people.


@Raspberry Ruffle Your name makes me hungry too. :D I actually looked up what it was, and every time I read your name I think of "Raspberry Truffle" anyway so I was pretty close. *LOL*
@Marie,
Jolie also got to the top of British politics by befriending a member of the House of Lords and William Hague, former British Foreign Secretary. Here's a news article about Jolie's "squad" of British friends, including the infamous Diana Jenkins. CDAN readers will know about Diana Jenkins, especially her controversial photography book, Room 23.

Here's a quote from the article about Jolie that mentions Jenkins, who just happens to own/owned a cliff side mansion in Malibu. Notice the others who are mentioned:

"Jenkins courts publicity as much as Helic avoids it, and is a leading philanthropist and international human rights activist who now operates out of a $32 million cliffside estate in Malibu. She counts everyone from Mick Jagger and George Clooney to Elton John and Sean Penn among her friends."

I do think MM is attempting to model herself on part of Jolie's "work" as an international humanitarian. I'll leave it up to the readers here as to whether Jolie is truly a humanitarian or whether she was working toward world power, greater fame and mega-money, which sounds very familiar, doesn't it?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/angelina-jolies-london-based-power-934114
AVerySunshinyday:


Viral load & dose-dependency:

Not established whether amount you get affects severity of illness - there's been talk in the last few days (BBC) that severity of outcome depends on amount of virus you've been infected with (there seems to be a relationship in the case of flu).
It seems reasonable to suppose that the body can deal better with a smaller initial dose than a larger one

On the other hand, New Scientist (published last Thursday) is less certain:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238819-does-a-high-viral-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/

So it looks as if the jury's out.

Initial reports suggested there were 2 strains of the virus, of differing effect. One major, one relatively minor. Only this morning, I read that Chinese researchers think now that there may be as many as 8 strains. Sorry, didn't note where I saw it but I'll post it if I come across it again.
Sylvia said…
@Mel in SoCal
https://www.latimes.com/business/real-estate/story/2020-03-30/max-azria-designed-morrocan-spread-lists-in-beverly-hills
Best comment ever at the DM: "Harry should hang on to the red jacket he wore at the Mountbatten Festival, he can wear it at a new job as a head waiter in a fancy Hollywood restaurant".

Hahahahahahahaha!
Let's just hope that MM doesn't decide to adopt a baby from a poor or war-torn country a la Madonna and Jolie. Or is that considered passe now?

How do I get accent marks on a laptop?
Sandie said…
@AVerySunshinyDay:
@hunter said...

Fact: the more virus you're exposed to the more likely you are to get sicker and sicker

Can you provide a link to support this particular fact? The more virus you shed, the more people you can infect, but the severity of one's illness isn't dependent on the quantity of virus you are exposed to.


I also saw the article and this is the reasoning:

* As soon as the virus enters your body, your immune system goes into action and eliminates it.

* As soon as the virus enters your body, it multiplies and spreads.

Under normal circumstances, your immune system will eliminate the virus, but if it gets overwhelmed by too much multiplying too quickly, then it has to fight the battle on many fronts and the virus gets more time to do damage and can overwhelm your body.

So your best defence is to minimise exposure AND support your immune system (loads of Vitamin C ... you can never have too much as your body will eliminate what it does not need). Foods (fresh) to boost immune system:
Citrus
Red bell peppers
Broccoli
Garlic
Ginger
Spinach
Live Yogurt
Almonds
Turmeric
Green tea
Papaya
Kiwi
Chicken Soup
Sunflower Seeds
Shellfish

* Rice with turmeric and lightly sauteed onions, garlic and fresh spinach with a garnish of parsley and sunflower seeds
* If you can't get fresh citrus fruit, then buy Vitamin C in powdered buffered form
* Chicken and broccoli casserole with almonds
* Green tea with fresh ginger root and lemon
Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for your insights @Mel in SoCal.

I would imagine that they would need a home that is easy to defend, from a geographical standpoint. Nothing too close to a busy road, for example, or with a public walking path nearby.

For anyone interested in seeing what a Max Azria home looks like, here's one for sale in Beverly Hills.


Nutty Flavor said…
New blog post: "HRH Duke of Sussex and HRH Duchess of Sussex - Gone, but not forgotten (yet)"
@Fairy Crocodile’ I think you are right about Americans not showing "automatic respect" to them. There are many faults people like to point in Americans (as if all others are blameless) but there is one things US got right: respect should be earned.

If a spoilt brat happens to be blue blooded folk will not hesitate to call him a blue blooded spoilt brat. Harry is in for a shock. ‘

I concur! Respect should never be automatic or expected, it should be earned. 😍

@OKay,’

Said @Raspberry Ruffle Your name makes me hungry too. :D I actually looked up what it was, and every time I read your name I think of "Raspberry Truffle" anyway so I was pretty close. *LOL* ‘

You were very close! πŸ˜‚It’s a childhood fav of mine that stayed with me. I always have a pack of bars in the house (loose individual sweets are harder to find) even at these atrocious times. πŸ€—
YankeeDoodle said…
Let’s listen to a story about a jerk named Har,
A moronic rich prince, barely knew where his palaces were shed,
And then one day, while shooting to keep his shot numbers up,
Up from the ground came a piece of Tv crude,
Rachel, she said, Maybe Meghan,
But no movie star

So the first thing Moron’s kinfolk said,
ya Harry, move away from here
Great Britain is too classy for you two,
So the moron Markles loaded up their jets and moved to Beverly

Hills, that is,
Movie Stars, Swimming pools
@Blogger Sandie said...

@AVerySunshinyDay:
@hunter said...

Fact: the more virus you're exposed to the more likely you are to get sicker and sicker


Think of it like this: You get exposed to the measles and you're going to get them, either mildly or severely, depending on your body, right? Could be a nuisance infection, or a severe-could-put-you-in-the-hospital version.

But the particular phrasing used suggests that if you are exposed to more people with the infection, you are going to get way sicker than if you were just exposed by one person with it.

tl;dr: The severity of it depends on your body, not how many people you came in contact with.
YankeeDoodle said…
Raspberry Ruffle, I must say your name makes me hungry.. Crumpets, too.
Sandie said…
@AVerySunshinyDay said...
@Blogger Sandie said...

@AVerySunshinyDay:
@hunter said...

Fact: the more virus you're exposed to the more likely you are to get sicker and sicker

Think of it like this: You get exposed to the measles and you're going to get them, either mildly or severely, depending on your body, right? Could be a nuisance infection, or a severe-could-put-you-in-the-hospital version.

But the particular phrasing used suggests that if you are exposed to more people with the infection, you are going to get way sicker than if you were just exposed by one person with it.

tl;dr: The severity of it depends on your body, not how many people you came in contact with.


Yes, how strong your immune system is and what weaknesses your body has are key to how sick you will get, but how much of the virus enters your body at the time of infection is also relevant. If your body is inundated with a high viral load at the time of infection from a highly contagious person (or repeated exposure to small viral loads, such as the risk for health care workers) then it is likely to be overwhelmed, i.e. the virus will multiply and spread quickly and do damage before your immune system can eliminate it.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Take Zinc. Also vitamin C.
Anonymous said…
Your body can only process 2,000 or so units of vitamin C a day. Any more than that gets flushed, literally. People taking large amounts of vitamin C are just making expensive urine.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Texshan said...
Your body can only process 2,000 or so units of vitamin C a day. Any more than that gets flushed, literally. People taking large amounts of vitamin C are just making expensive urine.
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But productive urine.
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