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Open Post: The Commonwealth Service, Meg and Harry's last stand

The annual Commonwealth service, scheduled for today at 1500 British time at Westminister Abbey, will be the last official appearance of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex as Senior Members of the Royal Family.

The Queen will also be in attendance, as will The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and the Earl and Countess of Wessex.

Apparently only the Yorks will be left at home. 

Curious - I know that in the US when the President addresses a Joint Session of Congress, at least one Cabinet Member is left in an undisclosed location in case something catastrophic happens. Is Andrew that Cabinet Member? Is Anne?

At any rate, let's discuss here as the event approaches and unspools.

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Meg and Harry's Charity

It was reported overnight that the Duke and Duchess of Sussexes will be setting up a charity that will help injured and homeless veterans in both the US and UK.

This seems like a dreadful idea, and it would be interesting to know who thought it was a good one.


First of all, a fund for homeless veterans is a terrible charity to steal from, and you have to assume they are going to steal from it, or at least filter money away from it for "appearance expenses" like first-class air fare, Meg's dresses, etc.  

As awful as it is to steal from the Opera Fund or the Art in Schools Fund or the Build Another Memorial to Diana Fund, it's much worse to steal from a charity whose intended beneficiaries gave up so much and have fallen so low. 

No credibility

Secondly, the Sussexes have no credibility with the military.

Harry turned tail and ran on his comrades to live in a mansion outside the country. He no longer merits the uniform, and he knows it. 

Meanwhile Meg knows so little about the military that she chose to appear at a military event in a dramatic outfit that clashed (and stole focus from) their scarlet mess dress. 

It's a terrible idea. I hope it's just a trial balloon that will soon fall to Earth.

Comments

Nutty Flavor said…
Can't beat the top comment on the DM:

Charities to help veterans already exist, so they could 'support' any number of those. Let's admit the real reason: the past few days have demonstrated that military discipline means that this pair are safest to be seen with this group. They want to maintain the mirage that they have some sort of Royal authority. Being connected to a veterans charity allows that appearance of a Royal connection to remain, and being in control of that charity means that the Super Duper Secret Visits (tm) can happen all the time without the risk of being told they're not doing enough vis-a-vis the National Theatre. It's all just one big act with this pair.
Peggy said…
I hope this isn’t a complete disaster, I think the possibility is there.
I’m getting quite frustrated with the RF for allowing MM and just Harry to attend such events (even if it is the last one), with the utter disrespect they show towards the RF. Although it could be some sort of an agreement for them to attend in order to keep security. Which they totally don’t need as they are irrelevant.
I’ll be watching W & K to see the distance they keep from just Harry and MM, that would say a lot.
I’m expecting MM to not be in the appropriate clothing , although hopefully she gets the “once over” before she is allowed to set foot out the door.
Anonymous said…
I wish I weren't just existing because I'd love to stay home and watch this inevitable debacle. Of course, I hope the BRF let Rach wear whatever too-tight-tawdry tosh she wants. I'm in favor of allowing Rach to blow herself up. That said, i do think that the BRF have to do the biggest, bestest, super-special sendoff for Rach & H FKAP because last event and must avoid anything that could be twisted into meanness or racism. I've already seen tweets about it from Americans, and anything other than the utmost for the Haz Beens would be twisted for the duo's benefit.
Nutty Flavor said…
That's interesting, Elle, since it seems like you may follow a different cohort on Twitter than I do.

Are these accounts people you know to be actual Tweeps, or is there a chance they could be paid shills for the Sussexes?

Let us know how they react to Meg and Harry's last stand.

Unknown said…
@Nutty Thanks for finding that DM comment. As commentary on H&M, those comments are a goldmine.

I don’t understand what it is they want to achieve with such a charity. Harry looked like a fish out of water in that uniform. Yes, Meg’s dress was super clashy and the worst part was her touchy, windmill hands that makes “just Harry” look like her puppet everywhere they go.

I haven’t had a lot of time lately so I’ve just been reading along. I am going to have agree with @Liver Bird and say I think it was a mistake for HMTQ to let them do these events after that tantrum they had.

The cynical side of my brain is wondering if maybe the BRF is gauging reaction to see if they can do something about the H&M situation that they like. Harry looks awful and he’s lost any sort of sparkle he had at one time. Pun intended.

I still wonder where the hell is Archie? The way they behave, it really seems like Archie is imaginary.
I’m looking forward to seeing the interaction between the dubious duo and the royal family.

A fabulous send off from real royals to has-beans? Well of course, isn’t it the best thing to do, if someone is mean and horrid, the best thing to do is to kill them with even more kindness back. 😀

Let’s see them get that charity off the ground first, and then see how far they get with it. 🤔
@charade,’I haven’t had a lot of time lately so I’ve just been reading along. I am going to have agree with @Liver Bird and say I think it was a mistake for HMTQ to let them do these events after that tantrum they had.’

I think it’s a mistake too, but I think they like most Brits, thought they’d never show their faces again on British soil, especially Megs. All they can do now, is be stoic and carry-on.

The next chapter awaits....🤗
@Nutty,
Completely agree that the veterans charity is a v bad idea. We all know that MM has no shame but know we know neither does Harry.

@Charade,

Archie the invisible child indeed. MM mentioned in her "secret" school visit that he was starting to walk. Hmm, I though the Archie we saw in South Africa seemed ready to walk.
Unknown said…
@Raspberry Ruffle LOL, maybe Meg still can’t read the subtle signs Brits make when they shun someone. I’m an American and knew she’d return. She was not going without a Swan Song. She’ll be dragged out.

Meg is not normal and is weirdly both thin-skinned and thick-skinned. She is highly sensitive to any criticism and lashes out. At the same time, it’s like she can’t see or hear criticism either. That weird combination is so awful for someone who is trying to join the pinnacle of “polite society.” She will never win the game.
Nelo said…
Nutty, did anyone see the daily mail's cover today? It's hilarious. For a paper that is the most circulated in Britain, the pics of Harry and meghan that DM decided to use is the one in the car where Meg was looking like lady Macbeth and Harry was looking sad close to a corona virus headline. Type BBC newspaper covers to see it
Teasmade said…
"Posting" so I can see comments via email today . . work beckons anon . .
Nutty Flavor said…
I did see that, Nelo! That picture is getting a lot of circulation - I saw that James Woods was sending it out to his 2 millon followers yesterday on Twitter.
Nutty Flavor said…
Just checked up - it now has 40,000 likes and 10,000 retweets.
Outsider here so forgive me. Can someone straighten this out for me? I was under the impression that H & M were not "Senior "Royals." Didn't Prince Charles make that clear when he told H & M to stay back as only "Senior Royals" were to go forward that one event? I also thought that when H & M referred to themselves as such, many corrected that assertation, including the Palace.
Nelo said…
Now MEGHAN is trying to help Harry keep his military associations. Lol
Nutty Flavor said…
@At Home in France, I think the event you are referring to was for heirs to the throne and their spouses only. They were reviewing artifacts involved in the coronation of the Prince of Wales, which Charles once used and William will soon use.

Anne, Ed/Sophie (and at the time Andrew) are all Senior Royals, and they were not invited to see the artifacts either, just like the Sussexes.
gloriosa said…
@ At Home in France,

PH and MM are not senior Royals as such, but HM appointed them President and Vice President of the Queens Commonwealth Trust (A Charity) she also appointed them as Youth Ambassadors for The Commonwealth (The 54 countries). It is in this capacity that they attend the Service today. They lose these appointments on 31st March 2020, or are supposed to.
Superfly said…
Hahaha Nelo. Indeed a priceless front cover.

I still believe (call me an optimist) that the RF know exactly what they're doing by letting these two idiots having their last hurrah. They are letting the leash go a little before they yank it back for good.
If anything, the Harkes have shown that you can always count of them missing an opportunity, miscalculating their next step, and digging that hole to even grander depths. It's just a matter of time.

The people who are applauding them now, are doing so because she showed up dressed well for once and they took a photogenic picture with raindrops. Is this really sufficient to turn back time and undo all the shite they have done though? I don't think so.

Give it a few days, weeks, months, and it's going to be back to tacky merching, snippy low-rent comebacks, backstabbing, grifting and selling themselves. It's their natural state. This beautiful glamorous IT couple is not there natural state. It's a trick&pony show. And like all shows, this one will come to end as well.
@Nutty Flavor and @Gloriosa, thank you so much for the clarifications. I think I understand now. I appreciate your responses.

Two burning questions for the Commonwealth service -

William's and Camillia's interactions or non- interaction with MM.

And a very controversial one - will she wear or won't she wear hosiery?

Fairy Crocodile said…
If Harry has any pulling power still he could do some good for the veterans. God knows they needs all help they can get. But Harkles will not pull this through on their own. They couldn't do a single sustainable thing. They need the royal machine behind them to do all real work. This is unlikely to happen within this year unless Queen truly lost her marbles and her word means nothing. A lot may happen in a year.
I don't believe this charity will take off.
@Nutty,’I think the event you are referring to was for heirs to the throne and their spouses only. They were reviewing artifacts involved in the coronation of the Prince of Wales, which Charles once used and William will soon use.

Anne, Ed/Sophie (and at the time Andrew) are all Senior Royals, and they were not invited to see the artifacts either, just like the Sussexes.’

Agree, and this is the answer I would’ve given. All Senior royals, just not at certain events which there are very few of. 😀
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11126871/harry-meghan-queen-memorial-service/

Interesting ... the church outing was a memorial service for a soldier that died in Afghanistan. The soldier's father was a gardener at Windsor for many years. Prince Phillip was at the funeral of the soldier.

The church outing was a duty and not an opportunity for publicity for the Sussexes.

How much time does Meghan spend online shopping for new trinkets and how big is the room where she keeps it all (the new earrings)?
Fairy Crocodile said…
They started copyrighting their pictures on Insta. Well well well. Tinsel town comes to the royal family.

As things stand Insta is only reaching to a certain audience and very soon a 40 years old Markle and nearly 40 years old arry will begin losing their appeal. They need mainstream press to stay in front.

What they are trying to do is so transparent. Litigate with paps and copyright everything else. Somebody advised them how to achieve the image control or it is another Meg's diamond idea?

Will not work for two reasons: if they appear in public their pics will be taken and not all will be flattering. DM's front cover pic shows it brilliantly.

Constant litigation and frantic activity to remain relevant will spread them thin. They don't have resources to follow this route for long.

They also learned that to stay valuable on the market they must maintain connection to the Royal Family. Watch how they will desperately try to squeeze in from now on. They are already backpedaling.
Sandie said…
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-harry-not-join-21658946

'They will be led to their seats with the rest of the guests rather than waiting for the Queen's arrival and walking through the church with the monarch as they did last year.

They will arrive after the Earl and Countess of Wessex, who will also be escorted to their seats.'

So, this will be interesting. I predict that the media will be filled with dozens of photos of the Sussexes, no matter what they wear or what they do.
Nutty Flavor said…
Interesting that the Sussexes are being given the same treatment as the Wessexes, the most minor senior Royals.
I do hope that, at the end of the concert, the band treated them to the World War I `women's' recruiting song "We Don't Want To Lose You (But We Think You Ought To Go)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_King_and_Country_Want_You

Just the melody would be enough - after all, do we want them Back?

To be followed by the Last Post, without Reveille.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Sandie

I always thought the Sun was brilliant with headlines. "Elton takes David up the aisle" will forever chuckle me.

But the DM beats the Sun this once by placing their pic right under the thick headline "Third virus victim in UK" and choosing the sea of red with her face distorted with anger and his face blank. You have to be pretty dumb not to get it, even I got it immediately, and I am slow with these things.

In my view they have just killed the "singing in the rain" blue bliss with this one. Oh, DM can be venomous when they truly want!
Jenx said…
I must head out to existing, in the wrong time zone to catch things "live". I predict she will wear black. For some reason this feels like it would be her final twist of the knife.

Look forward to all the observations and insights.

The caption for the James Woods tweet was hilarious. Something like "when you realize you've given up being a prince for talent agent ... "

Also, she be back for the lawsuit. Yes?
Portcitygirl said…
British reporter Victoria Mather called MM "five clicks up from trailer trash"in an article in the DM. I couldn't get the link to load. She also stated in the article that MM gave DC a knife for Christmas.

Forgive me if this has all been discussed- busy weekend. I can't believe the DM even published it. It aired on MSNBC Live. Of course, many are now saying this is the very reason why HAMS had to leave.
Nutty, I agree with the DM commentator. Military charities are the safest bet if the BRF are worried about keeping things civil for the Harkles. Military discipline would ensure the Harkles are politely tolerated.

That being said, I don't give this info much merit. In the past few month we have heard them championing environment, sustainable tourism, feminism, women's causes, fashion, education, commonwealth etc etc. They just start harping about whatever the flavour of the month seems to be. Like clutching at straws, they are probably trying to grasp at whatever comes their way. And with Endeavour Fund, Invictus, Mountbatten Music fest Military seems to be their theme for the month. By April they would have conveniently forgotten this was ever announced in the news.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Portcitygirl

Ah, the story of the knife as present to Kate is well and truly out? Good.

I am definitely looking forward to Camilla's reaction to them. Something seems to be off there, they have been taking digs at Cam for some time now. And Cam has studiously avoided them. Remember she cancelled her remembrance day wreath laying appearance at the last minute. Don't think that was a coincidence. Cam sure seems to have a knack of avoiding situations and people she isn't comfortable with. She is very very authentic in a no nonsense and relatable (almost inspiring) way. So I'd be looking for Cams side eye and sniggers and eye rolls. I bet there would be at least one. Or better still, after the lastest WoW shenanigans, dagger eyes.
Sandie said…
@Alice, Surrey James:

'That being said, I don't give this info much merit. In the past few month we have heard them championing environment, sustainable tourism, feminism, women's causes, fashion, education, commonwealth etc etc. They just start harping about whatever the flavour of the month seems to be. Like clutching at straws, they are probably trying to grasp at whatever comes their way. And with Endeavour Fund, Invictus, Mountbatten Music fest Military seems to be their theme for the month. By April they would have conveniently forgotten this was ever announced in the news.'

Well said! They seem to be very scatty and have no focus or real plan. I have no doubt that Harry has a keen interest in all these issues and would like to devote his life in helping however he can, but there really is no plan and they have 'lost' everyone and anyone who could really help them.

Harry is already well established with Invictus and Wounded Warriors (I think that is the name) projects. Get back the good people, spend all your time on these projects and branch out from there. It takes time and collaboration to do something meaningful but the Sussexes are all abut flitting around sprouting word salad and getting attention, and whining and feeling sorry for themselves and pissing off anyone and everyone who can help them.

Being an influencer and merching and getting stupid people to part with their money on frivolous stuff is what Meghan should be doing - she would be good at it. With a lot of photoshopping and touching up and good camera work she could even advertise perfume and cosmetics. Forget the cooking and politics and women empowerment and philanthropy!
abbyh said…
Military charity? oh, man. I hope that is another one of her trial balloons which go nowhere.
lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote:

>>>Harry is already well established with Invictus and Wounded Warriors (I think that is the name) projects.<<<

I'm not sure how closely associated Harry is with Wounded Warriors (WW) other than stealing the idea for Invictus.

WW would be foolish to take him on publicly IMO. The organization barely survived its own scandal a few years ago. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/09/after-public-crisis-and-fall-grace-wounded-warrior-project-quietly-regains-ground.html

The last thing WW needs is to be associated with a couple that always seems to have their hands in the cookie jar. But it does seem there are a lot of Americans who are pretty dumb about H&M. (I'm an American so I can say that :-)
R_O said…
I think the Royal Family will be nice to Harry and Meghan at the Commonwealth Service as their final sendoff just so she can't accuse them of racism and she can't play victim.

Also, I agree with a poster before that she must have come up with this veterans charity idea after the Mountbatten Festival of Music at the Royal Albert Hall. She mistakenly thought the "standing ovation" was for her and that they are supported and loved by the marines.
Unknown said…
@portcitygirl i have only just heard this story in the last couple of days and was horrified. Its no secret that she harbours an insane amount of jealousy towards the duchess of Cambridge but to gift her a knife!! I heard that she was freaked out and the rest of the royal family were also highly concerned and rightly so in my opinion. This woman isn't even trying to hide her psychopathy. After they crashed the Investiture again.. I am now 100% convinced Harry is complicit in all this. Big question is why this level of hate for his own family.. What has she filled his head with.
Lemon Tea said…
Lemon Tea here

Agree with the comment regarding the DM article as stated above. Of all the imaginable headlines, the fact that they inserted Markles picture next to it , is showing the readers and the country's loathing. Put into words , it would , in my opinion translate as Markle being a virus. Nobody loves a virus. Well done to the DM .

Now how to get rid of the virus! Clinical precision required , otherwise the parasite infiltrates everything.

I think Camilla has the ability to fight dirty, let's hope she does. Same as in the garden party, but with a greater force. If she could do the unthinkable , and marry Charles , and live through the accusations and insults after Diana's death, Markle is small fry. Hopefully she is tutoring Charles, as she must , and reminding him what anguish they both suffered , to now start reliving a new agony in the form of the Harkles.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lemon Tea
DM really hit it, didn't it? On so many levels. "Third virus victim in UK" is superb. Her first husband, her last boyfriend, her second husband. All three victims. And the third one is indeed in UK now!

What a stellar parting shot that will remain in the public memory forever.
FrenchieLiv said…
I think part of her doesn't care not being in the royal procession because :
1/ that fits her pity party narrative
2/ she will be all smiles but she is a coward : she doesn’t want to be around Kate, Wills, Charles and Camilla
3/ she knows all the eyes will be on her no matter where she seats (and she loves it!)
However, I think Harry will be miserable at this moment because he always was in the front row for decades.
I can imagine she wasn’t happy with the last photo (Instagram vs reality).
I think she gave him a couple of orders since she doesn't want the last picture of them in an official capacity being spoiled because of his sad face!
As for the Firm : the show must go on. They’ll be polite, professional, as usual!
Sandie said…
@lizzie: So Wounded Warriors is the American organisation that Harry modelled the Invictus Games on. I think they collaborated for an expedition to the South Pole. It got a lot of attention and gave the vets a boost. He needs to work hard and gather all the right people around him to do so and set up programmes for housing and treatment and job opportunities and lots of support for wounded vets, actually all vets and their families.

He could be using his time to visit every facility and organisation and put together a coalition and a list of priorities. So much he could be doing ... appearing at an event to get photographed wearing a new dress and jewellery is not going to do it, nor is word salad speeches and shaking peoples' hands but Meghan does not know how to collaborate nor how to do and effect long-term change.
Portcitygirl said…
@Fairy Crocodile and @Unknown

It must be true about the knife or someone would have refuted it by now I think.

Also, if it is true, maybe they were forced out by the Queen and allowed Megxit to save face.
Didn't JH say he didn't want to go but but could not discuss it further? All very strange.
Had the Knife as Christmas gift story made the rounds before now? It's priceless if true. And the worst part is that MM would actually think such a passive aggressive token was original.

I would love to see Camilla freeze out MM. For the life of me I cannot understand why MM would try to upstage Camilla when Camilla's husband controls the purse strings. MM must be much more impulsive than we realize. Torontopapers ( FWIW ) has said words to the effect that MM " just doesn't think things through."

Also ,and again ( FWIW ), I read hands professionally for many years. And from the beginning of this dog and pony show have noted that MM hands reveal her impulsiveness ( finger length relative to palm length ) as well as the simian line on her right palm indicates her narcissism, single mindedness, and a certain kind of driven, obsessive & imbalanced personality. This line is relatively rare in the general population and reveals a rules do not apply to me attitude in life. Frankly, in every instance I have seen it in someone's palm I have been told after the fact that X person is really difficult and self absorbed.


I've read the stories of course about PC having MM escorted out of KP ( BP?) because she was taking photos. Is that true as well?
Having recently quoted ITV’s policeman DCI Jack Frost on the subject of greed, last night I heard an interesting phrase on their latest piece of detective entertainment `McDonald and Dodds’. The subject was `misdirection’ as a ploy by criminals:

“The action or process of directing someone to the wrong place or in the wrong direction. `The deliberate misdirection that had put me off the track’ (Oxford Dictionaries)
The phrase was `wilderness of mirrors’, coined originally by TS Eliot:
“In a wilderness of mirrors. What will the spider do
Suspend its operations, will the weevil
Delay?”

The original`Wilderness of Mirrors’ was used as title of a book about Cold War intrigue , something more intense than our experience of `smoke and mirrors’. (There’s no copyright in titles so there’s a novel, too, about 9/11 – I don’t mean that one)

Here are some of the online comments about the book:

From https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wilderness-Mirrors-Deception-Destroyed-Important/dp/1585748242
`… a penetrating account of Cold War intrigue filled with strange doings and even stranger people.’

From https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/575784.Wilderness_of_Mirrors
“One thing of note which is something anyone that works in the CI/HUMINT field should take care to heed is paranoia and chasing ghosts can and will wreak devastating damage’’

`Counter-intelligence is the strangest, most paranoid of games. It is, in the words of James Angleton, a "wilderness of mirrors" where the line between source and target, fact and fiction, trust and betrayal shatter into a million shards.’

From 20committee.com/2012/11/18/the-wilderness-of-mirrors :
” …captures the enduring mystery of never quite grasping up from down in a case, or knowing who’s really running the show, no matter how closely you look at it ‘.

Doesn’t it all sound terribly familiar?
Sandie said…
My favourite tarot reader has predicted that the royal family will play happy families with the Sussexes at this event, but one of the males will be cold and distant with them (she could not pinpoint which one). She has not been 100% accurate with her predictions for the other events (but mostly so) so ... we will see.

She has seen that Meghan is already in contact with her next man and that relationship will be more suited to her, and she saw this man or some other man in Meghan's 'team' being at the concert, but I did not see any sign of that at all. She did predict overt PDA, especially from Meghan, and that cracks would show. That was spot on.

She has also seen that Harry will be more kind of 'annoyed' with Meghan at this Commonwealth event and that it would be connected to something Meghan did in public, sort of throwing him/his family under the bus in a speech. Harry is super sensitive so maybe she said or did something at the school that pissed him off? I haven't read her speech, so maybe I should find it and check it out. No one has picked up anything like that, so maybe not ...

My experience of the tarot is that it always shows the truth but bias or misunderstanding from the reader does lead to misinterpretation.
Miggy said…
Last-minute changes were made to the royal arrangements, meaning William and Kate, who were due to join the Queen in the procession, will also be conducted to their places. A source said the amendments were made yesterday, despite the Order of Service already having been signed off and printed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8091003/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-not-Queens-Commonwealth-Service-procession.html#comments

Being chucked out of KP by PC for snooping (taking photos, for future profit) - as far as I'm aware, that did happen.
@Unknown at 2:56PM - Harry may blame Charles for the divorce and then Diana's death, along with the press. A hard lesson for him to learn is that blame solves nothing. Harry is out for revenge, not a healthy outlook at all, and that's behind his emotional problems.
Lemon Tea said…
Lemon Tea here

@Fairy Crocodile

Oh my goodness, I didn't see it your way , the husbands! Now that you mention it ,of course, your parallel (if that's what its called ) is superb.

@ Nutty

Now that the Harkles are no longer in the actual pomp and ceremony part , it looks to me plans are already out to shunt them. That's what they deserve. Harry will sit there with an awful ache, whilst pretending all is well.

All the staff involved in planning the Service must have had their day of revenge , in making sure they were just bums on seats. I hadn't forgotten about the ex- staff who unceremoniously lost their jobs. How sweet a victory for them to see their employers relegated down to bench fillers. Let's hope with these ex -staff members , when being interviewed for new jobs, spill it out exactly what it was like working for these two. Usually one never badmouths an ex employer, for fear of not being employed, but who will believe them if they say working for the Harkles was , "best employer",or "amazing experience" or whatever. All a bag of lies. Hopefully the new biographer interviews them as well.
Sandie said…
There is a new, long and complicated Harry Markle post that exposes Meghan ... here is one excerpt:

'The annual Women of the World festival was launched where Camilla opened the festival and gave a speech on domestic violence that was covered by all the media outlets. The speech was delivered around 11.30 a.m., and was highlighted on social media around 3-3.30 p.m., (twitter at 3.05 p.m., Facebook at 3.36 p.m., and Instagram about 3.40 p.m.) and apparently MM was told specifically not to pull any stunts to undermine this important speech, not that someone should be told this as it’s called common courtesy and manners. However, we are dealing with an ambitious, power hungry, and attention seeking philistine whose manners would make a deranged caveman look like the perfect gentleman.

We had hoped there would be no sneaky tricks to undermine the opening of the festival, especially as Camilla is the patron and president of WOW, but that was too much to hope for. What had actually transpired was a double handed duplicitous attack by MM, and it wasn’t a coincidence but was a deliberate act of sabotage and disrespect, where the full details weren’t unveiled until 36 hours later as the media fell prey to MM’s trap.'

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/the-sussex-games-06-03-20-disrespect-and-sneaky-leaks/
Sandie said…
If you want to watch live, I think this is the link:

https://youtu.be/z1Kyp2Fvyr0
Well not much happened at the school visit, except that MM kissed a 16 yr old school boy and unleashed her big bad wolf self on to this unassuming Head Boy. No big deal, except that it is so so SOoooooo inappropriate that it's almost predatory. If she was to do this in her beloved Hollywood she would ripped to shreds by her SJW peers.

It's also inappropriate because this little titbit has gained so much traction. So much so that they, tone deaf that they are, mentioned this in their Instagram caption about the event -" The Duchess asked a young student to come in stage and share his perspective on the importance of the day, and whilst much attention has been focused on his initial comments, what he shared beyond that was compelling and true."

That above is the actual quote on their Instagram caption! Can you believe that??! How absolutely idiotic is that??! What professional, what woman, what royal, what adult does that???! If we ever needed proof that she completely rules Iver their insta content then this is it. Its laughable, she wants to highlight that he called her pretty infront of the whole school. Aww....so cute. (Barfff!)
Ava C said…
Most annoyed that the Cambridges are also going to be led to their seats, like the Sussexes and Wessexes, instead of processing behind the Queen as they would usually do. DM readers are also seeing this as an unfair slight on the Cambridges. Yet again, the Queen is rewarding bad behaviour and ignoring or punishing the dutiful ones. I'm getting more and more unhappy with the Queen at the moment.
SirStinxAlot said…
Not going to show up for the procession. Must know they will be booed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/meghan-harry-william-kate-change-130900726.html
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@Miggy and Ava C

Somebody threw the tantrum I see. Hazza or Mazza? That'll make them even more popular with William. I can just about hear doors slamming shut in Harkle's faces.

Will is quickly becoming the most popular royal.

Everybody will see this as totally unfair towards Cambriges who did nothing but excellent job and never placed a foot wrong. So much so that I begin to suspect it is deliberate.
Ava C said…
I put a comment on DM about my annoyance with the decision to remove the Cambridges from the procession and it got 73 likes in a couple of minutes (3 dislikes).
Miggy said…
Royal POLL: Are you sad to see Meghan Markle and Prince Harry leave the UK? VOTE HERE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1252800/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-megxit-latest-duchess-of-sussex-royal-poll

Voted :)
CatEyes said…
@Fair Crocodile said...
"Her first husband, her last boyfriend, her second husband. All three victims. And the third one is indeed in UK now!"

Joseph Goldman-Guiliano, an Entertainment lawyer, was supposedly Meghan's first husband but he got an annulment of the marriage.

An annulment does not mean the marriage didn't happen, it's just that a court ruled it was invalid for some reason (like fraud, bigamy, incapacity, no consummation, etc...) Some contend that no record of the marriage exists but court records can be sealed on family law matters in California. Besides it has been widely reported and if it wasn't true, I think Meghan would have sued by now. It was reported that Mr. Goldman-Giuliano did not want to be saddled with a vain grasping dependent wife like Meghan and his family disapproved of her.


lizzie said…
I guess I'm in the minority but I don't know that it's so terrible for the Cambridges not to be in the processional with HMTQ. Having just Charles and Camilla come in with TQ seems fine to me since he is the next CW leader. It also means there doesn't have to be a "gathering" of royals making small talk waiting to walk in together. I expect Will and Kate might be relieved by that!

What makes it look really bad to me is that this is a change, maybe in response to Harry throwing a fit, since the program doesn't match. The fact that H&M were invited to this event months ago (at least it seems that long ago to me) means there was time to figure this out and not look reactive.
Miggy said…
@Fairy Crocodile,

Somebody threw the tantrum I see. Hazza or Mazza?

The decision to exclude William & Kate from the procession was made yesterday, the same day Her Maj had a private meeting with the Harkles.

Coincidence? Nah!!

I am not amused!
CatEyes said…
@Miggy

The poll is now showing 89% of people voting are Not sad to see the Sussex's leave!!! Everyone please vote!
Sylvia said…
JMO BBC presenters making this all about the Harkles ie the time they will arrive ..
It us their last engagement as members of the Royal Family but it feels Aha I that their presence is overshadowing They shows Harry in a clip before William .Perhaps thus is due to Harry's 're in the
Sylvia said…
Harrys role sorry.Sophie Wessex is amazing in a clip showing her involment she really istens explains and it's not all about her unlike MM
Miggy said…
@CatEyes,

The poll is now showing 89% of people voting are Not sad to see the Sussex's leave!!!

I'm sure by the end of the poll it will be an even higher percentage! :)
Liver Bird said…
@Sylvia

Was about to say exactly the same thing about Sophie. The BBC show is a bit cringey and sycophantic but Sophie was great. This is exactly what royal involvement in a cause should be. Sophie only used the word "I" in the context of "I learned about...", "I listened...." but the real focus was on the brave and compentent women she spoke to. She didn't act as though they needed her to tell them what to do or 'empower' them - they were 'empowered' all by themselves. She was just there to use her platform as a royal to highlight their work. Plus, she was upbeat and optimistic. No whining. Sophie is a gem.
abbyh said…
I think differently about the Cambs being escorted to their seats. It takes out the you are picking on us defense.
Sandie said…
Does anyone know why there are protesters from Cameroon at Westminster Abbey, and what are the placards that some people are holding n the crowd?
So the Harkles are not going to be part of the procession. And Sophie's clip on the Royal Family channel is now up, highlighting her work for the commonwealth and women's rights in Africa. That's 3 ...THREE...of the Harkles favorite obsessions ever.

Me thinks Sophie is going to step into the role of commonwealth ambassador soon. If in the next few days we see any articles calling out the family for some silly slight or a new update on their site we'll know for sure. I do think k that they will not go quiet and definitely rain on their own parade pretty soon. As a parting gift to the family she never had.. :)
Liver Bird said…
Sophie looks fantastic.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Cat Eyes
I thought about it too but decided they stuck to the well known ones. The annulled marriage has never gone beyond rumours, or have I missed something?
Sylvia said…
Mm in green inckuding hat form fitting like go is butt pads in place!
Kate in red looking lovely Sophie I thought looked realky lovely
Liver Bird said…
Meghan doing her model girl walk. Harry with a face like thunder.
Sylvia said…
Eat ing sheen matching hat!
Jen said…
Once again, MM wearing an outfit thats way too tight. Geez...
Sylvia said…
PC is not shaking hands sensibly but greeting instead with Namaste
abbyh said…
Kate looks really good (as usual). Someone else, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.
Sylvia said…
Mm sat legst crossed the Sussex duo take long to PE Sophie sat alongsude PW Kate sat in front of PE Sophie
Sylvia said…
HMQ inairforce blue cashmere coat matching hat Camilla in black
Animal Lover said…
@Nutty
Stunning that the Sussexes now seem to be setting up a charity that will help injured and homeless veterans.

First of all, that's a terrible charity to steal from, and you have to assume they are going to steal from it, or at least filter money away from it for "appearance expenses" like first-class air fare, Meg's dresses, etc.

Agree and wonder if the decision to focus on veterans was made after the standing ovation they received with Harry decked out in military regalia? This is an easy population to fund raise for. There have been several scandals in the USA concerning foundations ostensibly to help vets that have instead been used to bankroll lavish lifestyles for the so called directors of said "charities."

The copyright of photos shows they are monetizing their image. I wonder if will be the money maker they expect? I detect a sourness from the press including the Mirror and Guardian.

Hopefully the daily bombardment of "news" regarding the Harkles especially the female member will plummet.
The world is in crisis due to the coronavirus. We do not need o hear from two light weights on how to improve the world.
KCM1212 said…
Saw a good comment regarding MMs use of the young boy at the school on The Charlatan Duchess



There are so many things that are wrong about MM’s interaction with that teenage boy, but I’m also trying to understand why she had a young man speak about International Women’s Day?? Funny how her version of feminism always involves using men.

So very true
Nutty Flavor said…
Agree and wonder if the decision to focus on veterans was made after the standing ovation they received with Harry decked out in military regalia?

This is a group of people who have spent a lifetime following orders and protocol. No doubt the ovation was for a departing commander, and would be made for any departing commander who hadn't totally disgraced himself. I doubt it means any particular affection for Harry
Louise said…
What is that green thing with the scarf thingy that she is wearing??? Only someone with a long neck could get away with that .

And why the heavy black eye make up for a day time event?

And why is her face swollen?
Louise said…
KCM1212: So true. I also read that she told the students that men should take care of their women. WHAT??
Liver Bird said…
Yeah, Meghan doesn't look awful but she's overdressed - both in terms of the outfit and her makeup - for a day-time event, however formal. And that Marilyn-esque wiggle? Where the hell does she think she is? At least they're not holding hands.
Sylvia said…
Camilla outfit is navy blue PC Camilla now dat in front JH MM Camilla turned as she took her seat .It's hard too decide JH thoughts on this last engagement. Has it sunk in.Is it a relief or regret right now?
Nutty Flavor said…
I agree, Louise.

I'm not feeling the green outfit. It gives me caterpillar vibes.

In fact, now I've got that old Cure tune, "The Caterpillar Girl" running through my head.

Flicka flicka flicka
Here you are
Cata cata cata
Caterpillar girl...
CatEyes said…
@Fairy Crocodile

I can't remember where I saw it but an article cited what Mr. Goldman-Guiliano's family member thought of Markle. I saw that as truth since I can imagine the Queen and other members of the BRF would have and say the same displeasure about Markle.

I see how if it was just mentioned once or twice it might be rumor but it is mentioned many places, far more places and times than the alleged 'Yachting" by Meghan which almost everyone here believes. Rumor is what we do about Meg's and Harry's drug use; no facts of such in 2018, 2019, 2020 yet we say they are druggies.

While OTOH a annulled marriage has more believability than drug use by the Sussex. I am in the opinion it happened or Meg or definitely Mr. Goldman-Giuliano would have sued. He wanted to be divested of her and surely would not want to allow such unseemly rumors go uncorrected if he could. He does have creed in Hollywood as an Entertainment lawyer and would sue if it wasn't true, I think...I would.
Sylvia said…
Agree @Liverbird on reflection.MM tidy hair but overdressed the walk too.
Nutty Flavor said…
Joe's not an entertainment lawyer. He's based in Massachusetts, he's a criminal lawyer, and he focuses on cannabis cases.
FrenchieLiv said…
I do think it’s a smart move from HMQ to remove (not to exclude!) Kate and Wills from the procession.
The more you set them apart from the BRF, the more that fits her pity party/race card narratives: don’t feed the haters!
Jdubya said…
https://ladygreyhound93.tumblr.com/

photo of harry and Megs arriving. I presume this is the commonwealth ceremony today. she is wearing this all green number with another cape like dress.
Louise said…
In the photo that I am looking at in the DM, her lashes are so heavy that she can barely open her eyes. The same lashes that she wore on Remembrance Day, I think.
Nutty Flavor said…
Agree with FrenchieLiv.

Meg's hat is giving me Norma Desmond vibes.

https://giphy.com/gifs/billy-wilder-gloria-swanson-sunset-blvd-mtv2pLVEpRXPi
Sylvia said…
Nuttu as always your assesment descriotion is sppot on that's the word that describes the colour of MMs get up not emerald or Jewel coloured caterpillar exact colour !
PaisleyGirl said…
I am not a fan of the green outfit either. It gives me Kermit the Frog vibes. Which is a shame as I love Kermit.
Also, Meg's padded bra is visible through her outfit, it looks like the same one she was wearing underneath the lovely grey dress during the Ireland tour.
Kate looks wonderful as usual, although she does look very tired. This whole situation must be tough on the family.
And why is Meghan smiling so much when this is a serious occasion? Also, as a poster mentioned above, her face seems swollen today, when it wasn't during engagements in the past few days. Did she have botox/fillers yesterday?
Jdubya said…
the video of W&K arriving and talking with Sophie and Meg tries to give little wave and is ignored. When W&K sit down, Harry says something to Megsy. Love to hear that

https://twitter.com/RoyalCentral/status/1237030915194454016

Louise said…
And she needs to buy a new bra. These tight dresses need a full cup to smooth the lines.. not the balconette with visible lines that she has worn for the past 3 days
Ian's Girl said…
My take on these last few events is still that it was driven by today's event; it strikes me that HM probably told them your asses will absolutely be at Westminster for the Commonwealth Services this year, and here is a list of other events you are going to be at until then.

I think it's significant that the list did NOT include TotC, or any other balcony events. THOSE are the fun ones. HM has insisted on the events that are extremely important from the standpoint of duty and obligation.

Catherine looks absolutely stunning. The Douchess of Sussex looks better from the back for a change. Color is great on her, I don't know wtf is going on with the front, though and it's a pity, because if it were less bizarre, and not so ill fitting, she'd look lovely, too.

I look at the her and it makes me furious and sad at the same time. They really could all have been the Fab Four, and made such a huge difference and brought so much joy to the Queen and the people of the UK, Commonwealth, and really the world. I'd have had a ball following them all. And look what it's come to.

Harry shares the blame, he went willingly. Just so incredibly sad.
Nutty Flavor said…
Did you notice that Harry's suit jacket is lined to match Meg's outfit?
Jen said…
I do think she is wearing hose today. Imagine that...good on her to FINALLY wear hose, for her last and FINAL event.
gloriosa said…
@ Nutties,

My vice is good quality fabric, MM left her dress at home and is wearing the lining, it looks very cheap and nasty. Swollen face has she been crying??? nothing going her way? Hopefully we don't get to see the panty liners today. Photo's of the blue dress.
Belmont said…
Meghan should steer clear of sheath dresses in my opinion...Or have it in a material that doesn't show every nook and cranny
Sylvia said…
@Liverbird I thought Sophie talking mesmerising duch lovely voice could listen and learn from her knowledge and interest Sophie Wessex is much more representative who the RF are . I believe SW has really come into her own.S real gem as you very rightly say.
Sandie said…
Well, that wasn't a warm greeting, if any at all:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237030915194454016

@Nutty Flavor: 'Did you notice that Harry's suit jacket is lined to match Meg's outfit?'

Yes. Cringe. I don't like her outfit, The cape is too dramatic. The dress does not fit well.

I am going to be kind and say that the fixed smile on her face is a form of defence and she does feel some shame. Nah!
Sandie said…
She curtsied to Charles with that inane smile and Camilla just stared at her? I haven't seen the video but I must find it.
CookieShark said…
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Louise said…
Did Smirkle bring her smelling salts? As I recall, she doesn't like the smell of the church.
Sandie said…
Someone pointed out that Kate is wearing the same coat that she wore for the Christmas scarfing incident!
CatEyes said…
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Louise said…
CookieShark: It was bad enough to be hugging everyone else, but she had to draw the line at the hormonal teenager. And it wasn't just the hug.. it was the flirting that went along with it.
Ian's Girl said…
The fixed smile on her face is mainly because she doesn't want a bad picture taken, and also because she's American and we smile a lot, and she's from Hollywood and they all have big fake smiles at important events.

I find myself pitying her; she does put effort in to what she wears and tries so hard, but it always falls flat.

I imagine Harry is feeling gutted right now,
O.M.G.! That green get-up is hideous! It. Does. Not. Fit.

Every little roll of fat shows, too tight, shows off her weird Sponge Bob body. It's at least a full size too small, like everything else she wears. The color is way to bright. Emerald green is darker, she might as well be wearing Day Glo.
Sandie said…
The source for this Angela Levin article was not given, but you can find it here:

https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/612115702796730368

Well said by Angela.
Unknown said…
Ha ha ha @Nutty, that was the first thing I noticed about Harry’s suit. He can’t bother ironing his clothes on the regular but matching Meg’s dress, let’s do that for our Swan Song. LOL.

Meg looks better than usual but yes I have to agree she needs better undergarments and I am not a fan of the dress’s color. That green is better than the khaki-colored she prefers but I don’t think it suits her coloring. She should have went emerald and jewel toned. Forest green would have been nice too.

Her face looking puffy might be because of the hat. I know depending on which hat I wear and the angle, I can look a bit fuller in the face too.
Louise said…
I just saw the dress on another site and realized that it was more "green" ie yellow green, than I thought initially. And so shiny!

You can also see the lining because the back slit is too long.

That's our Smirkle... never manages to see anything through to the end without a mistake.
CatEyes said…
@Nutty

Yes I found he is now a criminal defense attorney but I was citing this quote:
"An entertainment lawyer to help her make contacts to be an actress. He wisely dumped her then the next one was an entertainment agent."

Maybe he became a criminal defense attorney after he tried being an entertainment lawyer. If I am wrong, I just cite things like most people here (without doing exhaustive research).
Humor Me said…
First - would someone please recount/ give reference to the "knife" incident a la MM/ Kate? please? I am so out of the loop..
Second - the gloves are off in that green ensemble! MM will be seen! and yes, she is looking into most of the lens of the paps in the DM shots. (sorry I am running late with my comments - been to the dentist). Harry, on the other hand, looks down at the pavement, off into space. Harry knows what this is costing him. I wonder at this juncture what has been said to him specifically as to this visit/ MM's behavior/ and if anyone actually said "don't let the door hit you on the way out."
Third - good morning! Hope all have a good day.
Ian's Girl said…
Yes, the color is too bright, not rich at all. She just cannot pull off any kind of dressy look.

I think she's also trying to start trends with everything she wears, and she just doesn't have the kind of personal chic to do so.

Louise said…
The camera panned into the RF an there is Smirkle maniacally blinking. She does this when she is angry, nervous, or being ignored.
Jen said…
If you look at a close up of the dress, there are way too many seams. It just is not flattering close up. All of her dresses during this entire week have been like this, from a distance they look okay but close up they're not flattering at all.
abbyh said…
I'm looking at the full picture in the DM which

makes it look like her foundation is way off on the chin in way I don't see in the other photos. either oops photoshop or a case of the lighting screwing things up

Missed the lining matching the dress

looking at her face, I think charade is right. It's the hat ... and I think that you see her face/head but the neck is covered by the capey bit which frames the face from the body as part too.

xxxxx said…
The wise guys from (lol) Sussex better put their image making machinery (in LA) on hold for a few months. The Stock Market crashing down 2000 points will crowd them off the DM front page and attentions as in click ons
Hikari said…
It's still morning in my time zone and I haven't seen the photos yet, but I think HMTQ handled the procession matter rather poorly by benching the Cambs right before it started, as the program reflects. If she thought it was more appropriate for Charles and Camilla to process only as the next leaders of the Commonwealth, fine, but William and Catherine will also lead the Commonwealth after them, and the original plan was obviously to have both couples in the procession.

The change being made at the 11th hour smacks of HM having her arm twisted by somebody's snit fit. Most likely Harry, speaking as Meghan's mouthpiece: "If Will and Kate walk with you, we are not coming."

If threatened with that ultimatum, Her Sovereign Majesty ought to have replied, "Well, that's a shame. Sorry you won't be there. We must close this meeting now as We have great matters of State to attend to, plus the corgis need walkies. (presses buzzer) Have a good flight back to wherever you are keeping Archie; give him my regards. You will be escorted back to your digs to collect your luggage and then immediately to the airport. I do not expect that we shall meet again, Harry. Goodbye and best of luck to you."

Elizabeth isn't that ruthless. In this matter, I say that's too bad. It's what's needed. Her rogue grandson and his Gorgon will insure that she doesn't have a moment's peace until she is dead.

Off to see the pictures now. It's too much to hope that this is the last time I'm going to have them inflicted on my eyeballs.
Sylvia said…
MmM humming 'Oh our bags are packed were ready to go .. (leaving on a jet plane Peter Paul & Mary)continue ' so many times I've messed around so many times I've let you down I tell you now they don't mean a thing' ('well not to a Narc )
DesignDoctor said…
@Nutty

I did notice JH's jacket is lined to match her outfit. Solidarity?
She looks like an airhostess. The look is just too green goblin for me. What's with the capes and superhero theme of her outfits?? She take the superhero blind gossip.too seriously or is she auditioning via the DM??!
Artemisia19 said…
That green dress. Just no. Things are either too tight on this woman or loose and out of shape.
Sylvia said…
BBC lamenting explaining Royal protocol ...William Kate are the business presence arm.expressions dignity
lizzie said…
Harry's blue coat lining matching M's green dress is one of the oddest things I've ever seen! And his tie definitely seems off. Why match the lining to her dress and then choose a tie that doesn't go with the green?

The dress is awful IMO. Too bright, too tight some places, not hanging smoothly other places, material looks cheap....and why can't/won't she buy a decent bra?
Sylvia said…
BBC commentators reasuuring the Sussex duo will be back, bulling them up as if they are leaving on a holiday.All very uncritical.
They are positive about Sophie
Ian's Girl said…
And can I just give a shout out to our Camilla? She always looks fabulous. The woman can rock a big hat. She also looks like she'd be so much fun. I have really come to adore her.
pi said…
I've watched bits of video and seen the photos today and I've gotten angry. As a Canadian I wish Canada would remove itself from the Commonwealth. It feels like it's become a dumpster for offloading your troublesome royal spawn, where they can claw and mooch to their heart's content, legally, or go on free luxe holitours. Just imagine, they have 53 other countries to submit to their greed and entitlement. That's why they became "ambassadors"- they wanted to travel and have fun on another country's dime.

Watching bits of this service, quite wonderful actually, really brings it home how unity can be poached, pillaged, and burnt down by the likes of those miscreants.

I also believe the queen will find a way to siphon money under the table to the Harkles. This proposed military charity requires an infrastructure, the right people to make it happen, like the palace machinery. And (taxpayer) money.

I sense a lot of deception and secrecy fomented by the RF these days. Something's just not right. And I want out of the Commonwealth after this endless debacle. They are no longer amusing, just vulgar and deeply offensive.
abbyh said…
Hikari - I hear what you are saying about W&K being benched but it would have allowed the see how they are racist/one last slap to our faces narrative to spring into full flames from embers of endless criticism.

abbyh said…
especially with the bopper of being called five clicks above trailer trash
Sandie said…
I think this comment from LSA sums it up nicely:

'As far as Kate is concerned there's just two empty chairs beside Edward - a masterclass in unapologetically blanking.

Plus notice how William picks up the programme - with his back to the pair of them and only acknowledges them in passing......... and then busies himself with his jacket and tie - a la the scarfing incident.

TBH if I were Meghan, at that point I'd have just wanted to wither away and for the floor to open up and swallow my shrivelled remains.'

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-3103#post-55561831

1. Edward was a bit of a prat when he was young but marriage t Sophie really has brought out the best in him. He is nice to the Harkles because I think he just floats above the controversy and is nice to everyone.

2. That was not a warm greeting from William or Kate. I wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes that has been revealed about the Harkles that has been the final straw for them.

QueenWhitby said…
I just watched the parade of commonwealth flags at the service, MM is going to find it very difficult painting her racist canvas against the UK after seeing that - very few of the flag bearers were caucasian. I bow to HM - master move. William did not acknowledge the Harkles as he took his seat although Kate and Harry exchanged a smile.
Princess Mrs. B said…
@Sandie, here's the video of MM curtsying to Charles and ignoring Camilla:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1237036788037926912
KCM1212 said…
Flash off the old Harry leaving the church when he saw the kids.

And she crouches. Again. Ugh. She is always always on.
PaisleyGirl said…
@ Ian's Girl: totally agree with you, I have come to admire and adore Camilla. She seems like such a fun character with a wicked sense of humour and she saw through our Megsy straight away, it seemed. I even named one of my cats after Camilla.
Camilla's hat is fabulous today!
It is not difficult to find a dress silhouette that is flattering. Yet for some reason, Smugs finds it to be very difficult. And obviously the fit be damned, she will wear it anyway.
Ian's Girl said…
MM is never going to find it difficult to paint a racist canvas. If nothing else, she will continue to compare how she is treated to how Kate is treated. She never acknowledges that Kate was vilified constantly when she first came on board, far worse than Meghan ever was.

But I have already seen comments on Twitter about no one accusing W&K of upstaging Camilla when they put some sort of picture of themselves up on Instagram the same day Meghan put her school visit on her Instagram.
Artemisia19 said…
I know some people will disagree, but I think it was a good move on the Queen's part. It mitigated the drama that would have ensued if only the Harkles were benched or if they all came in together. I bet she was counting on that last photo of her with the Queen. It's quite awful to be in a family with that type of person. It's draining. There is one long photo there everyone looks somber, except for the loon. She just looks subtly insane to me. Maybe it's because I lived with a narc that it makes me think I may be overreacting but she really does have crazy eyes.
Snippy said…
@Nutty, my first thought was green potato sack but green caterpillar is much more accurate! Bunched up in all the wrong places, with visible bra lines. Yuck!
Beachgal58 said…
Check the video out on DM of Will sitting down. It looks like Meghan is attempting to say hello, all smiles and he ignored her.
Lurking said…
Green dress... notice everyone else is wearing colors of the Union Jack. She did this to stand out.

Knife story... can as someone else above asked, please recount. I'm so out of the loop on this one
Longview said…
Nutty,

Have to hand it to Catherine, Camilla and Sophie, dressing in unison to represent the colours of the British flag. What a simple and proud statement.

Set against that was the jarring, attention-seeking emerald green worn by Meghan, in disharmony with all those around her.

Thank God the UK based version of this horror show is nearly over, and the less-compelling Canadian version is about to resume.
IEschew said…
Catherine and Camilla did not pull fake hellos. I am not sure that either of them even made eye contact with the Sussexes. Good for them, but it must be really bad behind the scenes. I reckon Harry did pitch a fit about the processional. I take back the momentary sympathy I expressed for him last night.

Catherine recycled the C Walker coat which serves to highlight Meghan’s fashion-fest at a very sober moment in our global history (coronavirus, anyone?).

Everyone’s thoughts about the musical selections? The lyrics to Ain’t No Mountain High Enough could not have been easy for JH to endure. We only got one shot of his face during that song and it was thunderous, though I don’t like to put too much import on a single still photo. Would like to see more of how he fared listening to those lyrics, the petulant baby.

All in all I feel disgusted by them and sad for Catherine. If that knife story is true, can you imagine what she has endured? She likely understands the public show they must make to avoid cries of bullying or racism, but it has to feel so frustrating that they must kow tow to Sussexes’ demands. Their departure cannot happen soon enough.

All hail Camilla and Catherine.
Ian's Girl said…
Let's pretend for a moment that her dress was properly tailored and the color was a bit less garish; still green, but a richer one.

Do you think if the cape/scarf thing were draped up in more swoop to her shoulder that it might have been a better look? All these semi-cape ensembles make her look like she is escaping a straight jacket.

I feel like she came close to looking good here, but as usual missed the mark. I don't understand why she can't get the tailoring right.

Hikari said…
Wow . . the word 'stunning' was created for Catherine today! We know her as a very contemporary young mum and wife, and a modern princess, but when she appears in these structured looks with the impeccably tilted hats, she looks so timeless. Her balcony appearances for ToC . . two years ago in the pale blue; last year's pale yellow . .now today's ensemble . .she looks as though she has stepped out of a painting from the 19th century.

She's got great lines, as they say. Her English rose look goes so well in these old-fashioned outfits. The Duke of Cambridge is looking very dashing, spit-and-polished himself. He always does, but today he kicks it up a notch, with a tie that perfectly complements his wife's red coat. This is how you do it, Sucksies. C.'s gloves, clutch and shoes are in a lovely deep wine color that complements the coat while being a few subtle shades different.

For the poster who claimed that Kate is 'only' 5'7" and has been fooling us all along with high-waisted dresses . . there are a number of side-by-side photos of the Cambs. In her 4" heels, Catherine's head looks to be two inches off William's. If the Duke is 6'3", then C. is 5'9" at a minimum. Were she 5'7", the gap would be more like 4 inches, which it is not. Not that 5'7" is short . . personally I'd be thrilled with it, but C. is demonstrably taller than that.

Meg was attempting a similar classic silhouette, taking back green (the color of envy, btw). Green is tricky, since there are so many variations of it. Rather than forest green, in which she looks OK, though not as good as Catherine, this green is more a green grass/Crayola box kind. It looks a bit bilious to me. At least the shoes aren't matchy-matchy today. Again with the pretentious cape, and every bump and bulge visible. It's Meg, so I don't think my eyes are deceiving me when I see evidence of nip in all of these vacuum-packed numbers. I don't understand why such a relatively simple garment as to line is so hard to fit, but this kind of dress is never going to favor a boxy shape. Far too many seams, for a relatively short dress. The seams come out from under the arms and hit her right in the bust, which isn't a good look, and the reason I suspect she doesn't wear a bra is how mashed flat and uni-booby she tends to look. Her breasts should be more perky, particularly if she's paid for them. The effect is that of an MGM 1940s extra who's wandered off the lot in her vintage finery. The hat with its crazy spider netting is a hard 'No'. No hosiery again. Meg always tries too hard, and the effort shows, but to such little effect.

Or we could call this her "Rebecca" look . . the twisted, evil first Mrs. deWinter-Harkle.

At least she is Markling British designers now. I will give her credit for having sleeves, neat hair and nice earrings today. Her makeup also looks appropriate. That silly black handbag is also a hard no . . Particularly when she tries to wave with the same hand that is holding it.

Haz is wearing his only blue work suit and tie today. He's got on proper polished black dress shoes, not those navy blue suede oxfords he's been favoring lately. He looks completely miserable, but that's his default look now.

Bye, good riddance and don't come back. Please.
Sandie said…
@Princess Mrs. B: @Sandie, here's the video of MM curtsying to Charles and ignoring Camilla:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1237036788037926912

Thanks so much. I think Camilla greeted both of them but Meghan ignored Camilla. Gosh!

My favourite tart reader was spot on ... either William or Charles would be cold to the Sussexes. It was William. She did not predict Kate also being cold to them.
pi said…
@Ian's Girl

Do you think if the cape/scarf thing were draped up in more swoop to her shoulder that it might have been a better look? All these semi-cape ensembles make her look like she is escaping a straight jacket.

I imagine Megs thinks the capes make her look regal, like a queen. She just needs a bit of ermine trim.
WalkHumbly said…
@Princess Mrs B Thanks for that link. Is MM required by protocol to curtsy to Charles?

I wonder if Wills and Harry have spent time together this week. They could have recently spoken together, and maybe that’s why they didn’t have to exchange greetings at the service? I hope that’s the explanation.
none said…
The green getup and hat are truely hideous. Looks like a school graduation cap and gown.
Hikari said…
abbyh,

>>>Hikari - I hear what you are saying about W&K being benched but it would have allowed the see how they are racist/one last slap to our faces narrative to spring into full flames from embers of endless criticism.<<<

I agree that the Smuggles would have twisted it to fit their racist narrative--in which case, the best course was to have this conversation two months ago before the programs were printed and explain to the Cambridges the reason for sitting them out this year. As it stands, it looks pretty bad that their names are listed in the program as processing, but they did not. It seems like a ball dropped, or that HM was somehow cowed by the gruesome twosome, who still refuse to accept their proper place in the hierachy, even as they are hours away from being out of it.

Of course, since this incident has gotten people talking (we can't be the only ones) . .it can serve as yet more fodder to support the Palace's narrative that the treacherous pair continued to refuse to be gracious and continued to bully a 93-year-old woman into getting their way until the bitter end. It will be interesting to see if this gets any traction in the MSM.
HappyDays said…
Look at the photo of H&M walking into the service. Once again, her undergarments are visible, especially her bra. Has this woman ever heard of shapewear? She needed a one-piece bodysuit under that dress.
Ian's Girl said…
@pi, my God, you're right! Hopefully you haven't given her any ideas!
WalkHumbly said…
@pi Good call on the “regal” capes. I had assumed they were superhero capes.

What happens next? Is there a reception? Does the family have tea together? Does Prince Harry depart? I keep hoping he will say he has changed his kind, have Archie brought back home, and settle back down.
Humor Me said…
Okay - Knife story! I found the reference.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/msnbc-meghan-markle-trailer-trash-victoria-mather
Sorry - you must scroll through the Trailer Trash comments....

and I will take this with a grain of salt.....IF it did happen, wow. just wow.
CatEyes said…
Meghan may have thin legs and lost some weight but she still has "fat back" and the fit of her dresses reflects that. The green one today was ruined by the fat ripples in her upper back and across the front. The other day her blue dress also emphasized her wanna be Kardashian butt...and my Granddad would of called her a "double-bottom woman". She has no clue on what colors look good on her with the exception og the red (but she spoilt it by toooo much red).

I cannot believe Harry wore a jacket with a lining to match Mommie's er, Meghan's dress. How juvenile. Can you imagine the conversation that took place when Meg informed 'H' his jacket would be color-coordinated. 'Oh please Honey, everyone knows I'm your husband, please don't mess with my blue suit". Meg replies, "it's our last chance to show those awful UK people we are in this together. Afterall, I know what's best don't I"....He replies, "Yes my queen, all of this was your idea. How could I forget" (right before he takes a Xanax and gulps a Guinness down."

And the snub of Meghan toward Camilla was unbelievable. I bet Meghan did not dare look at Camilla due to her upstaging her speech the other day with those photos. The Palace probably read Meghan the riot act and she was so chagrinned she couldn't bring herself to look at Camilla. Much like a scolded dog can't look at its owner when it has been corrected after being bad.
WalkHumbly said…
PS So sorry for thé typos! My spell check seems to change them as it’s posting. :( *”changed his MIND”.
HappyDays said…
Perhaps Meghan is wearing the capes because she wants to be cast as a female superhero. I don’t think there is one named Super Mattress Woman.
pi said…
And there was Uncle Eddie chatting them up. Sick-making. Was he designated sacrificial lamb? What gives?
Ian's Girl said…
I don't think Nutmeg has emotionally matured past high school, where girls co-ordinate their prom dresses in some way with their dates' suit or tux, even if it's just that his boutonniere is the same color as her dress.

She is the archetype Mean Girl, with the world's biggest platform to act out on.

She was born a narcissist, and it's been reinforced by having much older siblings to dote on her, her parent's divorce which probably made her father make extra efforts to cater to her, and growing up in the entertainment industry ( probably the biggest problem of all) Being on the fringes of Hollywood probably made her try all that much harder to really make it big time. All of it just reinforced the narcissism.

It was a Perfect Storm when she met Harry, apparently full of envy of his brother, just ripe for the picking.
Hikari said…
@HumorMe

>>>Okay - Knife story! I found the reference.

and I will take this with a grain of salt.....IF it did happen, wow. just wow.<<<

I'm in the 'taking it with a grain of salt' camp, for a number of reasons:

1. The Harkles were in Canada (or L.A.) for Christmas, and indeed, the entire holiday season from pre-Thanksgiving on. Why would a gift exchange still have been a thing, particularly since the couples are not on friendly terms? There isn't any talk of Kate giving Markle a gift in return. Wills said, F to that, we aren't sending those ingrates any presents. We don't even know where to send them to.

2. The whole 'knife as gift/don't cut the friendship' is a relic of another age. Do people still give knives as gifts any more? Perhaps fathers do to sons, in a hunting family. The image of Murkletroid giving a knife to her sister-in-law and mortal enemy sounds deliciously Gothic, but it's a bit too good to be true, innit? Meg could have read up on the 'diss' factor of giving her enemy a knife, and who knows, maybe she found a good Bowie knife in Canada, but the whole idea sounds a bit too fantastical.

3. Mailing deadly weapons through the Royal Air Mail is impractical, even for a Royal. Could be done, I suppose. If so, why aren't we reading about a matched set for the couple, or of Harry's similarly toxic gift for his brother?

4. The whole idea of 'knife as gift' with its attendant symbology is too elegant and too old-fashioned for Meg. She would be far more likely to come up with a more common and contemporary mean-spirited gift . . say, a book on eating disorders or a supplement to gain weight or such like. Guaranteed it'd be some sort of riff on Catherine's looks or body. Wrinkle cream? A session of laser treatment? Something more 'Hollywood'.

If Meg truly sent the Duchess of Cambridge a knife, I would construe that as an open threat and take it to MI:5 immediately, as well as informing the Queen. It seems unlikely that the Suxxits would have been invited back to come and go freely and garner favorable press for themselves and to sit anywhere near Catherine had this actually transpired. So I'm filing that story away as wishful thinking. C. could have gotten a great rebuttal story in by posing for a beaming picture with the lethal present her sister-in-law gave her. How much would we love to see that picture? I think the whole thing didn't happen. Can you imagine the incandescent rage of William if Skunk had sent his wife such a sinister item? Granny would have heard about it and no mistake.
pi said…
It seems that the Harkles are buggering off back to Canada while the Cambridges host a reception for the Commonwealth reps at BP.
I thought. at first sight, that MM looked better today than any of the previous days - not that that's saying much. The green looked quite good with her colouring on my screen but it was OTT in style and quantity.

Was she trying to look like a Highlander in plaid & wee bonnet?

Then I looked more closely, oh dear.

I started with the back bodice being such a rotten fit, all that bubbling and poking - I thought the side and waist seams should have been undone and the fabric allowed to fall naturally from the shoulder. Then work out where the seams/shaping should be and finally, when the bodice was right, reattach the skirt. (I'm assuming there was a waist seam - if there wasn't, the fit was worse than I thought).

Given the amount she spends - no, wastes - on her clothes, one would think she could find a half-decent dressmaker to run up a little something at the fraction of the price that thing cost.

OTOH, she's be a nightmare client when it came to fittings

Of course, it's all explained by wearing something off the peg (merching?) and not doing fittings.

Thank goodness Kate and Camilla outshone her. Both are tall enough for statement hats that would make Megsy look like a mushroom.


Another WWI song for them:

Goodbye-ee! Goodbye-ee!
Wipe the tear, baby dear, from your eye-ee.
Though it's hard to part I know, (I know)
I'll be tickled to death (for you) to go!
Don't cry-ee, don't sigh-ee,
There's a silver lining in the sky-ee!
Bonsoir old thing, cheerio, chin-chin,
Nah-poo, toodle-oo, goodbye-ee!

https://www.lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/g/goodbyeee.html (tweaked)
Hikari said…
Cat,

>>>And the snub of Meghan toward Camilla was unbelievable. I bet Meghan did not dare look at Camilla due to her upstaging her speech the other day with those photos. The Palace probably read Meghan the riot act and she was so chagrinned she couldn't bring herself to look at Camilla. Much like a scolded dog can't look at its owner when it has been corrected after being bad.<<<<

I have yet to go through the video. Whether deliberate snub or just more typical Meg cowardice when confronted by persons she has injured, being so publicly disrespectful of Charles' wife is not only bad optics, but it's stupid to the core.

Camilla never overshadows Charles in public, but you can bet your buttons that in private, she is his most persuasive adviser. The couple has their cocktail hour--or three--every night to talk things over. The stunt of trying to overshadow Camilla's big speech has not been lost on Charles. Harry shouldn't be that shocked if Pa closes the bank machine after that disrespectful display. After all, Harry's wife isn't the only one who needs 'protecting'. Hell, no . . everyone else's wife needs protection from 'her'.

It was tasteless and wrong of Madam Smurkle to try her utmost to force Camilla's important speech for her very worthwhile cause off the front pages in favor of Madam's own shallow showboating coverage. However, I don't think this ultimately damaged Camilla or her cause. The two women attract completely different audiences and segments of society. Those who cared about and were interested in Camilla's work with WOW sought out her coverage. The vapid set that oohed and ahh'd over Meg watching a video by herself during her 'secret' visit to the NT were unlikely to read a word of Cam's engagement, even if she'd been alone in the papers that day.

This benefited Camilla more than hurt her. She gets to be portrayed as having justifiable anger over being treated so rudely, on behalf of her charity, while at the same time being gracious enough to worship with the Harkles. It's the 'take the high road' time. The low road can come in private when Charles withdraws all Duchy monies and all his private funding for their jet-set security. I hope he does. Mistreatment of his wife and future Queen, regardless of what her working title will be ought to have gotten his blood up. But not too much--we don't want him having a coronary.

If Chas finds it too difficult to cut off his youngest child totally, he could say that he is willing to provide an allowance for 2 security officers for Harry, but Tungsten's security will have to come out of Harry's own pocket, since 'protecting his wife' is such a priority of his. If Charles knows that Archie is real, then perhaps he could stretch to one more for the baby, but none for Herself. If the Harkles can't make do with three PPOs, just too fekkin' bad.
NeutralObserver said…
Ok, had to leave the WSJ & NYTimes pages because all of the coronavirus & stock market news was giving me an anxiety attack. I needed some light diversion, & headed to the Daily Mail.

I thought Megs looked nice & appropriately dressed & was unsurprised that she choose a bright, eye-catching color. I don't watch much video of her, & was struck by her odd gait. Is she knock-kneed? Her knees seem to turn in when she walks. This could be the reason that she has been noticed to frequently stand with her legs wide apart. It might help keep her balance & distract from turned in knees. She seemed to be vamping the church officials who were greeting them at the door. I've never been a big one for flirting with members of the cloth, but her wide vacant grin may have been a sign of uppers or tranquilizers. She had the same vacant smile at TTC last year. She did seem to manage to find the cameras, though. Poor thing, her figure is still more like the 55-year old Countess of Essex than the slightly younger Duchess of Cambridge, but I'm sure she'll work on that. She's got to compete with people like Gal Gadot if she wants super hero parts.

Re: The teenage boy who got hugged by Megs & who seems to be apologizing for it. He's probably a sweet kid, & called her 'beautiful' in the old 60s way, meaning, she's a nice person, but FYI, teenage boys think almost anything is beautiful, including, famously in an old American movie, a cooling cherry pie! When my kids were teenagers, some of my friends & I were bemused & made a little bit uncomfortable, when we learned we were considered 'hot' by the teenage boys. Only a very insecure or vain person would welcome that kind of 'appreciation.' It undermines a parent's authority. It's hard enough to teach teenage boys boundaries, how to treat women, or stay safe as it is, without one's appearance being the subject of conversation. Yikes! Archie's too young to for Megs to consider that, but she's getting too old to be the 'hot girl.'

Her smug self importance makes me both want to see Harry removed from the succession & for the Cambridges to immediately stop traveling together as a family. Only then will I feel they'll be safe from Megs & her crazed stans.
gloriosa said…
@ Nutties,

The knife Christmas present was Christmas 2018, the one Doria was supposed to attend at Sandringham or whatever, so many lies and mis representations, who knows. It wasn't long after that Christmas the move out of KP was mooted. Reason??? Nutty Norma trying to pull the Bates Motel scene? Again everything leads to more questions and very few answers.
CatEyes said…
Now here's a strange thing...the 'lady in brown' was spotted outside the event today.

""The Lady in the Brown Dress was there again, standing in the same spot. She must just have something to do with the event.""

https://hunnymae.tumblr.com/post/612127696870326272/the-lady-in-the-brown-dress-was-there-again







Charlie said…
Ok now I am failing for a rumour that she wants to be in superheroes franchise because she wore outfit with cape/cloak twice in 4! days. It's insane. Rumour had it she wanted MCU, but girl, except Thor and Dr Strange mcu heroes don't wear capes, and all DC heroes who does are men. I clearly don't want her in my precious MCU, plus you need to be really nice and easygoing to be in MCU, huge part of job is press tours where actors should talk about how nice it is to be a part of mcu, and how they all are a family or a team or partners, pick what you like. She isn't capable of that, we already seen this, lol. And for DC she's kinda old already. DC has a long plan, which can go even longer, so you need to play this game for years, and she isn't capable of that too, lmao.
Hikari said…
>>>Re: The teenage boy who got hugged by Megs & who seems to be apologizing for it . . .

I saw the picture of his letter . . very excellent handwriting, but then, as Head Boy, he's the top student in his year . . but also, curiously, a photo of him bent studiously over a table, composing it.

This smells like more Megsie PR to me. Why would there be a photo of him writing it? Why would he have felt compelled to write it? Did the Duckass of Suxxit call back later and threaten sexual harassment? WTF? He's got nothing to apologize for. His comment was sweet, spontaneous . . and he was a bit dazzled by this sudden celebrity appearance at his school. *She* called for a young man to come up with her. As Head Boy (not a position we have in American schools, but it is akin to student body president, usually shared by a Head Girl--the top two senior students as selected, I believe, by their teachers, with possible input from their peers? . . he elected himself, which was appropriate. Once he was up there, she flirted, pawed him and it seems to me, initiated the hug first.

If anything, Smurkle should be writing a note of apology to his parents and to the school for getting too handsy with an underage student.

That visit was completely stupid and had zero to do with the women's movement for equality undertaken at the Ford Motor Co. factory 50+ years prior. This school just happened to be in Dagenham. What were the school officials thinking? As per her usual, Hurricane Meg blew in, did her brief thing and blew out again, leaving devastation in her wake. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of the parents whose children were barred from returning to their classes for 'security reasons' band together in a lawsuit against the administration. The students didn't care--for them it was a short break from the tedium of studying, and some lucky few got the rest of the day off of school, if they were white kids who'd forgotten their student IDs. I guess being in the complete uniform of the Clack school and being vouched for by a teacher was not sufficient ID. But for the administrators who allowed Meg's ambush style visit to disrupt their children's educations and create controversy . .they've got some explaining to do to the parents of the affected children and their school board. I don't see how having their Head Boy suck up to Meg even more in the papers helps matters. Was he paid off to do so? If so, even more controversy!
I saw a clip of Victoria Mather asserting that MM had given Kate a knife (didn't hear her say when, ould have been in UK) on TV. We're cheapskates who rely on Freeview (not all of the channels at that) so I'm sure it was on BBC, ITV or Channel 4, the mainstream channels.
The allegation wasn't refuted.

As far as sending things from this end goes, see https://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/royal-mail-prohibited-and-restricted-items-nov-23-2018---23410530_updated%20April%2019.pdf

Knives (and presumably scissors) are restricted items but not necessarily prohibited. If they are legal under British law, that's OK, providing they are packed so as not to endanger anyone handling them. Counter clerks ask you what's in the package anyway - it's explosive, flammable, toxic, caustic, corrosive and infectious stuff they really worry about.

My last narc left her small pinking-shears (no sharp points) behind when she left in on her high horse. I packed them safely, declared them at the PO, the clerk felt them over to check they were OK and accepted them. No problem.

Did my narc thank me? Hell no. Just gave me what-for on the grounds I'd sent her prohibited items.

B*ll*cks! I saved my breath and decided it was time to go No Contact.
Was Meghan snubbed by Kate and wills?? I watched the video of WnK being seated at their seats several times and it just seems that the pair just greets Ed and Sophie. Mm greets them with a cherry toothy Hi but it feels like they did not even look at her. Kate is absolutely blank. And then MMs greeting just hangs in the air. Harry gives her a most pained teary look afterwards, once wnk have turned their backs. It Al ost looks like he is about to cry.

(But then again, these days H always looks like he is about to cry!)
Hikari said…
@gloriosa,

>>>@ Nutties,

The knife Christmas present was Christmas 2018, the one Doria was supposed to attend at Sandringham or whatever, so many lies and mis representations, who knows. It wasn't long after that Christmas the move out of KP was mooted. Reason??? Nutty Norma trying to pull the Bates Motel scene? Again everything leads to more questions and very few answers.<<<

I'll say. Why is this just coming to light now, 15 months later? Weird.

If she gave Kate a knife *in front of William*, with their kids in the room, she really is bat merde cray cray to the 100th power. The scarfing happened on Christmas Day so they must have already exchanged gifts the night before. Holy Hell.

Well, we know Doria has never been to Sandringham, no matter how many times Meg insists the Queen invited her, so the knife story could be just as genuine as Doria's Christmas visit.
That bright, overwhelming green was to stand out from everyone else. A team player she is not, it is always about her. Noticed her looking into the cameras while others looked ahead and were professional. I just cannot imagine leaving the house in an outfit that shows every single clump of fat I have, same with the ill-fitting bra, and I see the buttpads have been used again. Good heavens. Cannot wrap my head around this-it seems to happen with everything she wears. Whatever mirror she has at home, it must be magic.
Looking at that DM newspaper cover (the virus one), it is like that is the most angry she can look because she can't move her face due to it being so full of fillers and botox. Brilliant cover, by the way, to whomever put it together.
At least she makes me feel better about myself!
Cheers, everyone!
Humor Me said…
@Hikari - thank you!!

True story form my family: 11 years after my mother passed, my father married again. His sister, my aunt, was unable to attend the small ceremony, so she sent a Waterford cheese knife to the happy couple. Her comment at the time, was "what else am I to give the couple who have everything?". Moving forward with what I have learned today, with the relationship between my step mother, myself and the rest of the my family, my aunt was amazingly spot on.........
Sandie said…
The posters at LSA suggested that this is William and Kate tonight ...

https://hunnymae.tumblr.com/post/612127696870326272/the-lady-in-the-brown-dress-was-there-again

Harry's family must be heartbroken that they have lost a beloved family member, but I am sure they are all glad to see the back of the Harkles drama.
CatEyes said…
@Charlie

What is "MCU"? Thank you.
Ian's Girl said…
I'm thinking the knife might have been from a previous Christmas, and maybe she hadn't got the memo about gag gifts? She did give the Queen that singing hamster toy, so she knew it at some point, but I can't remember how many Christmases she'd have celebrated with the family in the flesh.

I find myself in the very annoying position of coming to Nutmeg's defense more often than I would've thought possible, but couldn't it been some sort of fancy chef's knife since we've been given to understand that she's a gourmet cook? I would dearly love for someone to give me
a Jahrhundert Messer, for instance.

Total change of subject here, but this was the first time I'd watched a Commonwealth Service, and all this plain old American could think of is how much I love your Queen, how she truly is Queen of the World in many ways...and how much it's going to hurt when we lose her.

I've been a royal watcher since I was a small child, and have always adored her. There is just something about her. She is magnificent, and the woman I admire most above all others. There will never be another like her, ever.

I think Charles will make a fine King, and he has aged wonderfully (thank you Camilla) but the world will never again see the like of Elizabeth II.
Hikari said…
@HumorMe

You're welcome . . thank me for what? :P

Anyway, a cheese knife is a lovely gift, even if given ironically. I wasn't thinking of cheese knives when envisioning a present Meg could have potentially got for Kate. I thought something pointier and more vicious would be more in keeping with her style.

If Meg got Kate a cheese knife, then this is a big brou haha for nothing. The giver can't wish the recipient harm if she wants her to eat cheese! Unless of course Kate is lactose intolerant and can't do cheese, in which case, it'd be a spot-on Meg present.

Apparently the Harkles have been living it up with imported French wines and cheeses while in their Vancouver exile and have run through a million pounds during their stay. That's 3.5 months, if they didn't arrive in BC until a week before Christmas. At this rate, Haz is going to be broke in about two years.
Sandie said…
Kate has a reception at Buckingham Palace tonight so there will be some fab photos ... a palate cleanser after that green dress of Meghan's.

I had come to the conclusion that Meghan chooses clothes from a catalogue (online usually). It looks great on the model so that is how she thinks it will look on her, but it never does because she is short and boxy and frequently makes errors in sizing and undergarments. This latest concoction seems to be a mixture of two garments ... almost as if Megsy decided that for her last hooray she would design something spectacular. How can the designer have let her do that? It just does not work on any level at all.
Ava C said…
@Hikari - loved your analysis of Catherine's look. You and Kate were both just perfect.

To various calmer, wiser Nutties - I'm gradually coming round to the rationale for benching the Cambridges and I can see it was the best choice in the longer term to avoid accusations of racism, but I'm so pissed off that we all have to make like little dogs in front of the Sussexes, rolling over and showing our bellies, the Queen included. Where will it all end? It had BETTER end this week!
Animal Lover said…
@Nutty

No doubt the ovation was for a departing commander, and would be made for any departing commander who hadn't totally disgraced himself. I doubt it means any particular affection for Harry.

A commenter on Quora also made that observation but stated that M probably thought the standing ovation was also for her.
Ava C said…
Ooops I said Catherine then Kate. Freudian slip. She's truly becoming the Queen in waiting, that's all I can say. Catherine.
TakeThatCity said…
I find it insulting to all the girls in the room that MM chose to ask a boy to talk about what IWD meant to him. This woman has no concept of what is appropriate and what is not. It was inappropriate to not give the stage to a girl in what is still a very male dominated society. It sends the wrong signals to boys and girls - boys can 'lecture' (for lack of a better word) about womens issues or whatever, while girls sit there and listen. I honestly want to slap the fuck out of her. She doesn't care about girls or women, she just wanted to be seen as 'woke' or progressive or whatever by asking a boy to speak on the topic.

Surely men have to be included in discussing gender issues, and it makes sense in group setting. But you do not make men ambassadors for womens issue or via versa. These girls will not only be disadvantaged because of their race but also because of their gender during their careers. It will mean that they will be less likely to progress or take on 'public' roles, including public speaking at or on behalf of their employers. All MM has done is to encourage and send the message that it is 'ok for men to take the lead' - even for issues that do not primarily concern them.

This woman annoys me. She needs to fuck off and leave Kate alone. I guess Kate has endured a lot of bullying by her. It wears you down.

MM was such a joke today with her 'hello' to Wills and Kate when they weren't actually interacting with them. Wills only gave a brief acknowledgement a few seconds after her 'wave' and Kate did the right thing and ignore the pair for her own sanity. The Sussexes wanted to fake that 'all is well', which gave the exact opposite impression.

MM is lacking intellectually and emotionally. All she has are ideas on how to network and who to network with, as is typical with narcs on the hunt for constant need for attention. She completely lacks ethics though whilst doing that without even realising.

I have followed this mess from the beginning. I rarely comment. But God does this woman annoy me today.
WalkHumbly said…
It's interesting that MM was all big smiles and curtsy for PC, which I understand may have been required, yet couldn't look at Camilla. I wonder if Camilla was looking at MM so long in order to catch her eye and be able to say "hello". At the same time, Markle always seeks out the men, doesn't she? She may give more attention to Charles, thinking he has the power (and money), but that play is foolhardy.
Charlie said…
@CatEyes
MCU means Marvel cinematic universe. Basically every movie made after Iron Man (2008) by Marvel studios (x men movies, fantastic four movie (2015), and two spider man movies (2012 and 2014) aren't part of it).
Hikari said…
TakeThat,

I'm with you . . what does pawing at and giggling over a 16-year-old boy have to do with empowering girls? A visit to a girls' school might have been more appropriate for the day, though it's important that boys learn from a young age to treat women equally. But a co-ed school with no ties to the Ford Motor Co. women's strike which Dagenham is famous for made zero sense.

Meg has spent her entire teenage years and adult life garnering social approval and financial gain by exploiting her looks and body for sexual attention from men who have paid all her bills for her. She's only known now because she attached herself to another high-profile man, whose grandmother and dad pay for everything. In what way is she a role model of empowerment? If she wanted to led a seminar for the 6th form girls in "Ways to Make Money Using Your Sex Appeal After You Leave School" . .well, there's one topic in which she is an expert. Empowered? Only as long as she's got access to a man's checkbook, otherwise, no. Not even empowered enough to find a proper stylist or tailor to even look good as a female sex object.
Hikari said…
P.S. The girl that was standing next to the head boy and laughing at the hug was, I presume, the Head Girl. Certainly *she* should have been asked to say a few words about the topic? Maybe she did but that was not included in the coverage because she wasn't as photogenic as the boy, and Meg has no use for girls she can't flirt with.
Elsbeth1847 said…
A commenter on Quora also made that observation but stated that M probably thought the standing ovation was also for her.

If you watch the longer version of the applause, at one point, she kind of looks around and mouths a thank you/acknowledgement before launching into the I'd like to sit now.
Ava C said…
@TakeThatCity - "I honestly want to slap the fuck out of her" - God yes. May be criticised for saying that but I've had it with following the rules for correct behaviour when Meghan is basically burning and trashing all around her.

@WalkHumbly - "It's interesting that MM was all big smiles and curtsy for PC, which I understand may have been required, yet couldn't look at Camilla." History books are now full of peeved women because Jackie Kennedy as First Lady never gave them the time of day yet hung on to every word uttered by their (important or eminent) husbands. That's how much of a throwback Meghan is. We're back to the early 1960s ladies (and gentleman Vince). So much for progress.
Ian's Girl said…
I agree that she wanted to stand out, but I'm not sure how her choice of color could have guaranteed that unless she'd rung everyone up and asked them what colors they were wearing. I suppose she might have guessed they'd choose Union Jack colors.

I like the theory about Jess being her "stylist". She needs a new one, to put it mildly.
WalkHumbly said…
@Ava C "History books are now full of peeved women because Jackie Kennedy as First Lady never gave them the time of day yet hung on to every word uttered by their (important or eminent) husbands. That's how much of a throwback Meghan is. We're back to the early 1960s ladies (and gentleman Vince). So much for progress."

Oh, WOW. I did not know that. Yes, it's the same pattern.

And what @Hikari said: "Meg has spent her entire teenage years and adult life garnering social approval and financial gain by exploiting her looks and body for sexual attention from men who have paid all her bills for her."

This is what I saw in her mega-watt smile for the Prince of Wales - he's the one paying her bills. Camilla is of no significance, at least to MM.
@Ian's Girl, I think a conservative, understated colour, say dark green, would've been fine and safe. At a church service, you don't want to draw attention to yourself.
Fairy Crocodile said…
To all who say a knife might have been a genuine gift. Some knifes can be expensive and intricate or highly practical. The best knives I have are Japanese ceramic, very expensive and superb.

But wouldn't you agree that a gift of a knife would cheer you if it comes from a person you know for sure wishes you well, likes you and has good relations with you?

Now, let's see. We had reports of Markle reducing Kate to tears before the wedding, Harry throwing a tantrum due to presumed offenses during their stay together- undoubtedly prompted by her comments, Kate telling Markle off for mistreatment of her staff, etc etc. Does it paint a happy friendly relations?

If I had somebody like this in my life who gave me a knife in the midst of this or after I would freak out and told my husband no way I stay anywhere near this person without a bodyguard. And sure I would not want my children anywhere near her either.

Perhaps this explains why we saw zero pics of Uncle Harry and Aunty Megsy with the royal children. As well as expulsion from the Kensington Palace.

WalkHumbly said…
@Ian's Girl "all this plain old American could think of is how much I love your Queen, how she truly is Queen of the World in many ways...and how much it's going to hurt when we lose her."

I feel the same way! I just love her! Her outfits are stunning; today's choice was especially gorgeous. I love her grace, her absolutely proper behavior at all times, the way she makes each person feel important...I hope she continues carrying on for many more years.
Ava C said…
The photo of H&M and W&K with a glacier between them is now top photo on DM Online.
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