Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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Dumb enough to antagonise the media you mean dimwit.
The phone call is weird and harry seems to be ill at ease : too much private issue, I should have tried to hang up the phone earlier.
1. Dude got epically catfished (Not judging, I'm an ADHD dum-dum myself(
2. The accompanying animation is HYSTERICAL (reminds me of "Archer", danger zooone). 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm sorry if I've ever called these two "useless" in the past: apparently they make for wonderful comic relief during these scary/uncertain times. The more seriously they take themselves the more hilarious. 😆🤣
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Cheers to to the pranksters 😘😘
However that call says everything we need to know.
Harry is naive, easily influenced and unable to stop something he is not into.
That is why and how he got trapped/pranked by Meghan 4 years ago.
I am not into all the conspiracy theories ...
I don't have time to watch the full video at the moment, but I was immediately struck by how inauthentic the female prankster's voice sounded. Harry has enough contact with various people from around Europe that he should be able to tell the difference between a Swedish accent and a Russian one.
What struck me the most was Harry. He has no intuition and no self preservation!
It's like the William character said on "The Windsors" series about his family - "They're like budgies. You can't them out of their cage - they'll be eaten by the first wolf that walks by."
The most distressing aspect of this, as I see it, is that he's feeding the distrust of the older generation by the young, the last thing that's needed at the moment.
Those of his age in UK would have no memory of Chernobyl (1986), when a few days later we had torrential rain (from easterly winds, oddly), laden with radioactivity, and one would have to be 70+ to remember the Windscale (aka Sellafield) disaster in 1957. In both cases, something dangerous but invisible fell upon us, a reminder that one doesn't have to be able to see something for it to be perilous.
I'm sure those of us in other countries could insert their own equivalent disasters.
The behaviour that we've seen this last weekend looks like Mass Narcissism - `Nobody advises me what to do'. Boris may have tried too hard to get the message over gently but it hasn't worked in the face of stupidity stoked by SM conspiracy theory, attitudes that dismiss those older, wiser and highly qualified, the`We know best - we don't give a damn' about the medics or the oldies' and so on.
In earlier times (WW2, obviously) anyone public coming out with the garbage that spills out of Harry would have been in very serious trouble with the law.
I thought she said appearing on Vogue cover was being proud?
The best thing about the animation is Meghan and her stinky-eyes look as vapid as a Kardashian.
At least Lana/Pam/Malory have intelligent eyes in "Archer", look: https://youtu.be/C3t-tDLKc5
- "Trump/Boris will want to meet you to make themselves look good"
- acknowledgement that Boris has been in politics for a long long time and basically knows what he's doing
- the English press has a complicated relationship with politicians & even if Boris agrees may not be allowed to say what he really wants to say
I really thought he'd be a simpleton.
My maternal grandfather was accused by some of being buddy-buddies with the local mob, see. Not everybody is realistic enough to understand that it's wiser to keep your enemies close. (Even my paternal aunts are negative about it, then they dislike my mother so of course.)
Given that Meghan is just another Hollywood wokie who says whatever is popular (hating Trump is trendy right now) I thought Harry would be just as simple-minded. I think I may have underestimated him, but then he *was* born into a life of public service.
It's just when he chooses to be with someone who behaves like Meghan, you assume he must be even more vapid & simple than she is...
What does he see in her?
I'm confused.
Perhaps the issue was timed to coincide with Meg's rumored appearance at the now-cancelled Met Gala.
Maybe a cover story seemed like a good idea in December or January, when they were getting ready to leave the Royal Family, but it would seem hopelessly out-of-touch now. Same for Vanity Fair.
I wonder if either magazine has gone to print.
I would have dismissed it as a rumour if her hair stylist hadn't posted it on his IG.
I still think H got bamboozled and believed he saw in Meg, a “Commonwealth Flower” that could stand against Kate, the “English Rose.” He also probably thought as an actress she was the equivalent of Emily Blunt or an American version of a Sloane Ranger that went to RADA. He seems clueless about European culture so American history/culture would have blindsided him.
I don’t think Vogue has been relevant since SatC. That was eons ago! Before IG, it was Fashion Blogs and Independent Magazines like Rookie. So it’s a while since people have really cared who is on Vogue. Now their choices have become: who haven’t we put on yet or who is a controversial person we can get so people can actually remember we still exist.
I don’t think Meg is popular here. She gets a lot of publicity but it doesn’t seem organic at all. I can only give insights to NY. The people in fashion I know stay quiet but definitely don’t like Meg. The blue-bloods I know are Kate fans or like other obscure royals like Beatrice Borromeo. Heck, the York girls have a pretty decent reputation. Anyone I know either likes Kate or doesn’t even know Meg exists.
The Vogue issues in May would be a terrible idea. Coronavirus is highlighting more than ever the haves and the have nots. Most of us are stressed about work, protecting our kids and parents, and having food. Plus the increasing number of people dying from this. Where are the humanitarian Sussexes now?
I guess we can say he's gullible (from lack of real-world peasant experience) but he's not naïve (from observation/experience).
It's like being ADHD but having a very high IQ maybe?
In Africa where I come from,we don't use the term 'people of color' because no one will know what your talking about. We refer to people as either African, Asian, European etc. We don't say people of colour.
Back to Meghan, I sincerely hope this magazine covers wont be a continium of the smear campaign she and her dimwit are carrying on the RF.
The Harkles are not well loved in the USA. They are "less hated" here, perhaps. No one cares about them except their very small cult, which is why I have to come here to talk about them. None of my friends or family thinks about them in any way. They're irrelevant.
Oprah is doing an Apple series on the coronavirus. It looks like a series of webcam interviews with various people. This kind of issue-chasing hanging-on is likely where the Harkles are headed, as they follow their fading buddy along the grifter trail. Unfortunately for the Harkles, Oprah made billions before her star cratered. The Harkles won't sniff such a sum.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/beto-orourke-running-president-twitter-mocking-vanity-fair-cover-113219683.html
Not long after that, he would be forced out of the race as his polls plummeted.
Vanity Fair is not what it used to be. And Vogue, as much as it may be a style guide, isn't going to be able to save a pair who have removed themselves from the stage by quitting the royal family.
I like basketball. The NBA. The league was forced to postpone itself about two weeks ago. Since that time, players are trying to keep themselves relevant with IG videos, tweets and the like.
But it's not the same thing. Players only matter if they're on the stage playing. Similarly, royals only matter if they are representing the queen and on the big stage at monarchy-backed events. The Harkles are finished in that regard.
One final thing. A global pandemic helps to put into perspective the nonsense of the Woke culture. What pronoun you use doesn't mean much when the world is facing a deadly virus. So the entire Harkles shtick has been rendered meaningless by the coronavirus. Bad news for them.
As someone who gets paid to profile people I find it difficult to figure which way this goes.
@Nelo I understand what you mean. I will just say that I believe the interest in Meg and these “big deals” she gets are because it’s barely 2 years since she came into the BRF and so we are seeing a lag between her being a brand new shiny toy and her stock plummeting.
The plebs I know (me included) could care less about Meg. I mentioned the viewpoints of the fashionistas and blue-bloods I know because they are the gate-keepers of where Meg wants to go and be celebrated. If they don’t like her already, that means she is not going much farther. Models and actresses get where they are because a biggie likes them and keeps carrying them forward.
How long can Meg keep going if there is no popular demand and the elites don’t care for her? COVID-19 makes everything even more complicated and she’ll have to wait longer to launch and the clock is ticking before she fades away completely.
Can Harry really be that stupid?
(And Philip is the grand nephew of Alexandra Romanov, the Czar's wife)
2) I would like to know more about the smaller house on Denman Island where Archie, his nanny and RPO stay while the Smirkles are away. (referenced in Charlatan Duchess)
Quite a while back my favourite tarot reader picked up that Meghan would monetise Archie (i.e. show him to the public if she can get paid to do so). Her reading picked up that she does love the child as much as a narcissist can, but does not want to be a full-time mother and will not hesitate to use him to benefit herself (as she did with that meeting with Tutu in South Africa, and, gosh she does love to re-use those photos)).
Vanity Fair and Vogue will probably have articles/interviews with the Harkles - victims, throwing shade again at the very people who are financing their indulgent and expensive lifestyles, and lots of woke, cool stuff and word salady speeches about family (of three ... we have other family?), environmentalism and women's empowerment.
The lighting, carefully chosen angles and photoshopping will make Meghan look fabulous ... those who will subsequently meet her in person should be warned!
Magazines like Vogue and Vanity Fair (I used to read the latter for fabulous well-written in-depth articles but those seem to be a thing of the past) often feature celebrities/very famous and wealthy people who do not interest or inspire me at all, but I do not support the magazines or the products they advertises (my Mom used to buy me perfume every year for my birthday so I have enough stock for the rest of my life, and, gosh, she had good taste!) so it does not bother me or cross my radar screen at all.
Exactly...how can Harry not know that he is related to the Romanov's. I even knew that before becoming interested in the BRF. A little pleb like me in Texas knows more than Harry about his own family tree than he does. lol
Can't remember what it was called, does it mean anything to anyone?
For a long time I thought it was Robert Harris's `Archangel' but checking back, to a synopsis of that novel, I'm not sure. Or was the penultimate shock the revelation that the Stalin inheritor was a Nicholas II look-alike from the BRF? Not a Stalin look-alike, as Wikipedia asserts?
People that embrace the environmentally-aware lifestyle and live in tiny houses and grow their own food will have no respect for people that give lip-service to environmental causes while living in ostentatious mansions that scream "look at me!" and fly around the world on private jets to go on pointless expensive vacations.
People that have extreme amounts of money and can afford the fashions in Vogue or Vanity Fair aren't going to appreciate the Harkle pair attempting to feed off of them like a parasitic lamprey.
- Harry is fixated upon what he sees as "criminal behavior" of the media. To the extent that he does not understand his own behavior heats up the attention. "We are locked up here surrounded by paparazzi...we are trying to build a new life".
- He is not alerted by very strong Russian accents.
- He believes he is "protecting" his family and his son!! I immediately asked myself "From what?"
- He claims that after leaving the royal family they are able to "say and do things we were not able to do before", thus fully showing only control from Palace was stopping their idiocy
- He lies "we would not do that (use royal titles for financial gain)" despite fully intending to use royal titles for the foundation.
- He blooming likes the sound of his own voice!
And FINALLY I wished so much for Greta to ask him which charity got the 3 million Disney so generously paid them for abandoning the Royal Marines in favor of the Lion King. Shame she never did.
After listening to the whole thing I am now firmly convinced Harry is suffering from some form of paranoia as well as has a mentality of a 13 years old. He is very far from being stable and well.
She has a strong Russian accent, almost cartoonish. I am disappointed. I was expecting more Natasha from "Rocky and Bullwinkle", so I suppose it wasn't that cartoonish!
Goodness, Harry is SO very credulous. Nice to know that he acknowledges that his wife is far stronger than he is.
*sigh* I can't listen anymore. There is only so much stupidity that I can listen to in a day; I've reached my limits before I've reached the end of my coffee.
I agree with you. There is a big gap between being in the F Vanity and being taken seriously.
Additionally the idiots don't even recognize their claim about craving privacy is invalidated by their orchestrated appearances in various magazines designed to achieve attention of certain audiences.
Harry's PR is one gigantic disaster.
Vanity Fair is losing good taste. Without it it has nothing to justify the price and goes down to the level of Hello, OK and such.
Generally celebrities don't get paid for being profiled in glossy magazines, or in any "legitimate" news media. ("Nobodies" who have affairs with football players and the like used to get paid for their tell-all stories, but these days they are more likely to use the exposure to launch their careers as an Instagram influencer or webcam girl.)
There is a loophole, however, and that is providing photos for the story, for which you can be paid for photo rights. So if Vanity Fair, for example, provides a "candid photo snapped by Meghan at their Canadian hideaway" as part of the layout, Meg can be paid for the rights to that photo.
Including a photo like this might be part of the original agreement for the interview.
- Ye Gods, I've just spotted some parallels between the Kaiser's hang-ups and Harry's.
The Kaiser had a curious relationship with his mother, distinctly Oedipal, combined with the psychological and physical effects of birth damage to his arm and the attempts to `cure' or conceal it. He also had deep resentments towards his granny, Victoria, her splendid Navy and being repeatedly reminded how wonderful Britain was, far better than the newly unified Germany.
Didn't the Kaiser have a reputation for being fiercely competitive when racing at Cowes, with a profound need to come first?
The war wasn't just a result of nationalism, Prussian militarism, the treaty between France & Russia and an arms race but also Bill's own psychological damage. Victoria's aim to achieve peace, prosperity and British influence by marrying her older daughters off to husbands chosen for political reasons failed miserably in his case.
Thank God Harry was chucked out of the Army.
Btw, on the subject of the RF's connection with all/most? of the European royal reminds me about Haakon VII of Norway, first cousin and husband to Maud, George V's sister, making him George VI's uncle by marriage, as well as a blood relative through Queen Alexandra, a Danish princess, wife of Edwd VII (please correct me if I've got that wrong, it's a bit of muddle).
Anyway, he was in exile in UK during the war. he arrived at the BBC to make a broadcast and arrived in a very low-key way. The Duty Officer at the reception desk in Broadcasting House just saw an unassuming chap, wearing a raincoat I believe, who then identified himself.
Nonplussed, the receptionist rang through to a superior for guidance, saying `I've got a bloke 'ere, sez 'e's the King o' Norway...'
They are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Back on topic, I haven't read about part 2 of the prank call apart from here, but I agree Vogue and Vanity Fair are relics of the past. Like Scarlett O'Hara thinking of her little green slippers when she was trudging down long roads with stones in her shoes.
Meghan has a whole roomful of badly-fitting but even more expensive slippers of course, and actually thinks it's a great idea to keep reminding the world of her existence. If I was her I'd be very worried that only two elderly people stand between me and relative penury. William is increasingly alpha these days. He's on his way to being the new broom about the place.
A little reconnaissance:
29 of July 2019 DM reports Meghan Markle didn't appear on the Vogue cover she edited due to modesty. She said to Enninful "it is boastful".
March 6, 2019 Express reports Markle wanted to convey "modesty" in her 90 thousands Morocco dress.
Both Markle and Harry claim multiple times they crave "privacy" away from the "prying eyes and cameras".
So, our modest and unassuming Duchess changes her mind, drops her demands for privacy and appears on the Vogue and Vanity Fair cover?
At this point I doubt they get any PR advice at all. Any PR professional would immediately see what I saw and warn them about the backlash and more accusations of hypocrisy and double standards. They don't care they are so desperate, aren't they?
Apologies for being cynical, but has Meghan ever had an original thought arising from genuine emotion and independent thinking? She seems to pick up ideas online and then implement them, so I wonder if she picked up the idea of arranging for extra food on set to be donated to a shelter somewhere online or in a magazine or on a blog?
I know a narcissist who buys lots of magazines, copies an idea and then beams as she is praised for being so creative* and having such great ideas and never once admitting that she copied something she saw in a magazine. Maybe a lot of people do this, but those with academic training (and Meghan loves to boast about that) should know better and it should be a habit to always cite sources.
* By the way, creativity requires originality. Copying is not original. It is OK to copy but don't take credit for it as if it was your idea.
That all being said, maybe Meghan just hates waste and so did something obvious with the wasted food?
And, Vanity Fair has changed to the point of being boring with "woke" articles. I used to take a copy to the gym to read while on the treadmill. Now, they sit in a pile to be flipped through, and then recycled. Vogue, too, is on its downhill run.
And, if they are surrounded by paparazzi, why are there no photos of the house where they're staying, no photos of the RPOs, not even a photo of a road/driveway leading to the mansion? Nothing. Harry's delusional.
"William is increasingly alpha these days. He's on his way to being the new broom about the place."
I love how William and Kate have stepped up! I also loved the Mother's Day Instagram post yesterday. Lovely! I especially enjoyed the casual pic of giving piggy back rides and the previously unseen to my eyes , anyway, the photo of Kate and her mum. George is quite the artist! I loved his mixed-media card.
Regarding the Vogue and Vanity Fair covers, I cannot see why any fashionista or mother would look to Rachel as a role model!
Frankly, Harry on the tape is boring. Ugh.
My point is that, if this is true, yet another push to try to boost Conde’s numbers. Wintour has some sort of general editorial role at Conde and she chooses to be obvious to the diminishing role that magazines play in our culture. I think it was New York Magazine (ironically!) that did a spread on Conde last September (?) that was, hmmm, how do we say this? Not exactly complimentary to Wintour.
Again, who knows if this cover nonsense is true, but if it is, it’s another fail on Wintour’s part (like the K/K cover) because what does she know about street culture or even social activism? I cannot fathom her reasoning. It’s obvious that Markle’s Vogue issue was a total fail, why would Wintour take this kind of leap again? I can imagine that it was a huge battle because Markle would have wanted the cover all to herself, with Wintour insisting that Harry and Archie on the cover as well. We all know how much she hates to share ANY media attention that isn’t completely focused on her. And let’s face it. If this cover is real, then the entire focus will be on Archie. Markle and JH are merely props. Babysitters even.
There was a time when fashion magazines used to have a dual platform. Harper’s Bazaar used to be the showcase of some of the best fiction out there, rivaling the New Yorker in terms of quality. But that’s no longer the case. Instead of doubling down on the vapid, fashion magazines should look to the past to return to some sort of relevance. HB now seems to be a shill for PR companies. So sad.
Also, if I were the BRF, I cannot imagine how enraged I’d be that a bunch of stylists and photographers got to see their child at a frigging PHOTO SHOOT as opposed to having him interact with his own family. Not that I think he is real. Another rent a baby. Or they actually adopted or bought a child to continue with this farce.
Given the comments that have have been highlighted in the UK news in the last few days, I think it's high time that abusing older people, whether physically or verbally, should be classified as `hate crime'.
Prince Harry is incapable of seeing that, in his case, writing off everyone older than is on grounds of age alone, (apart from MM) is no different from abusing someone for the colour of their skin.
Today, news has emerged of 3 teen toerags in Hertfordshire being held by police for deliberately coughing into the faces of elderly people.An altercation ensued, with a woman of 70 ending up with a black eye.
It is a criminal offence to knowingly or deliberately infect someone with AIDS. Age, if we're lucky, comes to us all.
All I can say is he sure is long-winded. Lots of words, not much content. Quite the bore.
I'm intrigued by the Denman Island hint on that Instagram post about their upcoming VF story.
Denman Island is a small island off the coast of Vancouver Island, 3+ hours north of where their current home in N. Saanich is. Seems like a weird choice of where to stow your child, nanny and RPOs. If your child is safe in your Saanich mansion while you are there, why wouldn't he be when you aren't there? No budget for security at "home" while Mom and Dad travel? Super paranoid parents? What's next, a bomb shelter?
You are right. I am not from a rich or posh background but life brought me in touch with some posh ladies who lunch. To put it mildly, Markle was never and will never be an inspiration to them. And they are precisely the type with enough money to spend on the overpriced glittery products advertisements of which are the lifeblood for fashion magazines.
So pushing Megsy as the new icon of style or beauty will likely backfire.
Great point about the hypocritical "want privacy" thing. The sham is apparent. And agreed, being on the cover of these mags doesn't mean being taken seriously.
As WizardWench points out (if source correct), the two mags apparently aren't turning a profit. Thus, they are just propaganda outlets for the persons or causes du jour.
Young people (the group the Harkles are trying to ensnare) don't care about magazines, as WW said. They care about their phones and the internet.
And does anybody really know where MeMe is? Where Harry is? And where (and if) Archie is?
@MustySymphony you may be right that they have relocated to a more affordable rental.
Nothing the Harkles do makes reasonable or rational sense, to me. Surely it is easier to provide protection at one dwelling, and it must be cheaper?
Sophie, Prince Edward's wife, has posted a short video on the Royal Family IG. I assume the post includes a list of resources.
Get your freaking stories straight, Harkles.
It wasn’t clear how much direct contact the staffer had with the Queen. Apparently there are 500 staffers at BP.
I would guess that anyone who lives in a hotspot like a London or NYC has been in the presence of an infected person by this point.
I just love that there are so many well informed and well written people on this site.
I don't mean the ultimate punishment. I mean well-deserved obscurity on a limited budget, maybe in a log cabin in the woods at Balmoral. That would be fine with me. Archie could stay where I hope he is right now, with people who are fit to care for a child. Meghan can go back to (back to?) hustling. After all, it's all she values. All she knows.
The only good she will leave behind her is a world better educated about narcissism and the damage it leaves behind (as some may remember I have personal experience there, as many of us do). Hopefully some families will hold together and be stronger with that knowledge. The work Kate is doing may help the youngest generation to be better-equipped to deal with it, in terms of resiliency. I'm glad she has found her niche. Gives us something positive to focus on for a change.
Wait for 10th May...
"This royal has burned through all of his kickback money and is stealing from his charity."
Don't know if I would trust Enty on this one....
Nutty: that PR about her getting the food to be donated was first leaked in the last documentary by Omid.
I found it very odd that it had not managed to get out the public before this. It would have been an easy thing for any of her coworkers on the set to mention publically if they felt cornered into saying something about someone they were not fond of.
She hadn't seen or spoken to him for some time when she ran into him in the fall of 2018, shortly after he and Meghan had announced her pregnancy. She went up to him and congratulated him - and instead of answering, he actually sneered at her and cut her dead.
And then the press release by Omid Scobie right after was such a transparent attempt to divert, either from the release of the tape or Beatrice’s announcement of postponing her wedding until 2021.
And finally,I agree that if she had Archie she would be posting pictures constantly. She would one up Kate with them daily. I think the BRF s handling this masterfully. I have always counseled my children to allow unhappy, unkind people alone to destroy themselves. It may take a while, but they always will, especially if provided with a vacuum they feel compelled to fill.
Shelters would never be able to serve leftover, already served food because it would be a health code violation.
There is footage of MM in SA, I believe, or from another tour, where she and Harry are watching children sing in the rain. MM & Harry are under umbrellas. MM, probably aware cameras are on her, supposedly says, "Do we have extra umbrellas for the kids?" But no one moves to put umbrellas over the children, and MM does not offer her umbrella to them, at least not in the tape I saw.
This "give the leftover food to the homeless" is all part of her very shallow "I'm a humanitarian" façade. Time to start a drinking game or MM bingo.
Choose your squares:
- Makeup artist cries in an interview
- Reference to the dish soap story
- Reference to "she paid for her education"
- Wild Card Word Salad: Empower, Impactful, Kindness
- Undergarments don't fit
- Merch pose for pictures
- Harry looking like a hostage in photo
- 5 Friends talk to the press
- Reference to her toxic family in the States
- Reference to the BRF toxic
- Flirty look at Charles or William
- Story in the papers where MM calls Kate or Camilla names
you get the idea!
- Upstages another member of the BRF via press release
- No one asked me if "I'm OK"
- Throws pot of hot tea at staff
- Claw on Harry's back
- Barges in front of Harry to greet dignitaries
- Wanders into events to which HAMS are not invited
- Secret visits to charities
- "Designs" ugly clothes for SmartWorks
- Claims authorship of Grenville cookbook
- Inappropriate PDA
- Shifting size baby bump
- Disappearing baby bump
- Donates used flowers from baby shower to charity
- Turning back to balcony front at TTC
- Scarfed by William at Christmas
- Left out of processional at Westminster Abbey
- Refuses to appear on Vogue cover because it's boastful
"I have always counseled my children to allow unhappy, unkind people alone to destroy themselves. It may take a while, but they always will, especially if provided with a vacuum they feel compelled to fill."
I have never heard that--it is interesting and great advice!
Am I the only one who thinks Meg is taking a page out of Bloomberg’s campaign with her “Get S***t Done” nickname? Look how good that went. I also don’t understand what exactly she gets done? Her days seem like a lot of vain busy-work to me.
Re: food cannot be served again as a health regulation
Is that a Canadian rule as well as USA? Does anyone know?
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Re: food cannot be served again as a health regulation
Is that a Canadian rule as well as USA? Does anyone know?<<<
My first job after college I was a Environmental Health Inspector. In the US the food regulations for public food consumption (ie. restaurants, grocery stores, etc...) are usually enforced by City staff or by County staff in unincorporated areas. The broad rule is that food which requires being kept cold has to be 40 deg F and lower and hot food at 140 deg F and higher until served. Most gov't entities don't allow leftover food to be donated (although there can be exceptions in some locales). Main reason for this is because leftover food might go out of the acceptable range of temperature and that such donated food might have been handled by non-certified food handlers.
Called the “meanest person alive”
Tons of negative twitter posts.
DM no longer showing comments on the story?
I watched Suits and I don’t think I heard this story about her donating food from the set until she left the show and tried to make us believe she was a “Princess.” Please Nutties, correct me if I am wrong but so far, I don’t buy the story at all.
I used to do consulting for companies that sold in big-box stores and it entailed me doing deep-dives into their logistics. My clients who sold food and groceries were always on the brink of financial ruin. The logistics of handling fresh food is extremely complicated and expensive. It is a hard business to survive.
A person sharing food from their house to a neighbor or a person on the street is one thing. Doing that on a large scale is very problematic. When food is donated to the needy, it is either through donations of processed foods (canned goods, packaged foods) or through kitchens that exist for the purpose of feeding the needy.
Corporations giving out food that was most likely improperly handled or with possible allergens is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Either Meg is lying or the people at Suits are idiots.
I just don’t understand why Meg thinks people should be grateful for her leftovers: food, flowers, and her baby’s clothing. Why is that the only type of charity she is capable of?
As you point out, she seems to love giving away what she's already used up. People and objects are for her use, or they're not needed. If they're not needed, let someone else deal with it. Remember how she insulted the inventory at Smart Works before she came along. I think these are her delusions of grandeur.
I am always so bummed I don't get to comment until well after most of you have gone to bed. Out here on the Left Coast, I'm completely preoccupied by this Homeschooling mess. But your blog saves me from going insane. Love you, Nutty!
From the above link:
To ensure everyone’s safety, we cannot rescue:
leftover food that has been ‘plated’ and served, including salad bar ingredients that are exposed to public touch.
prepared food that has been temperature abused – cannot be in the temperature danger zone for 2 hours or more.
It seems a better approach would be to encourage less on-set consumption, a better match between on-set supply and demand, and to help the hungry, production company and personal donations to appropriate groups.
I can totally see MM sneakily planning something like those 2 covers, and back in January or February we really didn’t have any idea of how bad this would get. But they really are going to look insensitive and clueless if those photo spreads come out now.
It's food from buffets, food from catered lunches, food from hotel complimentary snacks and dinners that can't be donated. That's what gets tossed. Food from television/movie craft services would also get tossed.
Sounds like Meg had a huge publicity campaign planned to support a post-March 31 "We're no longer Royals, but we're even better!" campaign.
As others have mentioned, this would have dovetailed with Meg's appearance at the Met Gala, the Invictus Games, Eugenie's wedding, etc.
The question, once again, is who is paying for all these clever PR people. I'm sure Meg's "good friend" - what was her name? - isn't doing it pro bono by this point.
You can't help but wonder if they're eating through Harry's inheritance from Diana with the idea "You have to spend money to make money."
You know what she could do now? Something about what it's like to be at home with a small child who can't go out because of the quarantine. Millions of parents around the world are having that experience.
Archie is a little too young to be home schooled, but Meg and Harry could be shown playing with blocks with him, or throwing a ball, or reading a book (special points for a "woke" children's book!) or anything else a kid in his age range might be interested in.
Of course, that would require them to actually have a kid to take pictures of.
As per who is paying for PR, has the 1.5m she allegedly paid SS already run out?
How does pay for play work in US media? Does SS pay the magazines to publish sugary stories about her everyday? I guess the money they made from JP Morgan, Harry's duchy money and her merching money will be part of how she pays for PR.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-windsors/episode-guide/series-3
I'm enjoying it - there's a plotline about Charles, Anne, Andrew, and Edward going on strike for higher wages from the sovereign grant (they sing left-wing union songs) and Beatrice's love affair with Edo is funny too. Edo is done up like Adam Ant in "Prince Charming" and has a terrible fake accent.
The problem, unfortunately, is Meghan. Her character just isn't funny. She drags down every scene she is in - which is odd, because that wasn't the case in The Windsors Series 2.
How does pay for play work in US media? Does SS pay the magazines to publish sugary stories about her everyday? I guess the money they made from JP Morgan, Harry's duchy money and her merching money will be part of how she pays for PR.
High-level PR people can easily bill $500 an hour, so I would imagine the money runs out pretty fast.
Pay to play happens in a variety of ways. The most obvious is "we represent another star" - ie, if you'd like that exclusive interview with Sebastian Stan about what he's really looking for in a woman, you'd better run 3 stories about the less-interesting stars on my PR roster.
These days, however, it's more likely to be connected to events. Bulgari diamonds is my PR client, they're looking for a magazine to "partner" with for a big party, plus several full-color advertisements, we will need to run a nice profile about Bulgari spokeswoman Letitia Wright, is your magazine interested in that type of package?
On a different issue, have you noticed that the Sussexes have gone scorched Earth on the RF, especially the Cambridges? In the lastest smear campaign in US WEEKLY, the Sussexes allege that William has always downplayed Harry's achievements and implied that he constantly threw Harry under the bus.
But I've observed that that despite the leaks about how terrible the brf are and how uptight Kate is and how jealous William is, the only response from the RF is that the Queen loves Harry and would welcome him back.
There has been no single damaging leak from the brf against the Sussexes since they left. I was worried that the brf will engage in tit for tat but it appears their strategy is 'reply hatred with love'. I love that they haven't descended into the mud with the Sussexes. While the Sussexes call them toxic and racist, the brf talking points has remained 'we love Harry and meghan and will welcome them with open arms'.
It must really hurt that no one is fighting with them. They are just fighting themselves
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8142875/Prince-Charles-Duchy-Cornwall-estate-blasted-community-Scilly-Isles.html
Leasehold in England, as opposed to Freehold, can be tricky - there can come be with extra charges, as well as the `ground rent', as in the `service charges' imposed on flats/apartments. You needs good solicitor when buying as you don't buy the property but the right to occupy it for a specified time.
The relative cheapness of leasehold property may be attractive - but the landlord can have his leaseholders over a barrel. `Freehold' means free of all on-going payments, except to National and Local Authorities.
It's all a relic of the feudal system.
Taking to heart his Mum’s sage advice that it it’s OK to be naughty as long as you aren’t caught and even if you are?
Running through short term female companions like they were hand towels?
Achieving a single D as the only passing mark he could earn without making his teachers fudge his grades under threat of losing their livelihoods? ( to be fair that was Dad, on his behalf. Royals don’t ‘fail’; they get to be ‘high-sprited’.
High spirited choices in fancy dress, choice of drinking buddies, and conduct while in foreign countries
Being discharged from the army prematurely due to conduct unbecoming a soldier in HMTQ’s Army. Because he is a prince of the Realm, this was called ‘for security reasons’
Grandly inflating his contribution to said Army, lacking basic aptitude for the job and a complete contemptcfitcthe chain of command?
Taking credit for inventing Invictus, when what he did was say “hey blokes, I think we should copy what America does with the wounded warriors; organize that for me would you? Granny’s told me I need to get invested in a charity. I’ll be at the pub; call me when it’s sorted.”
A talent for embarrassing scandals that the royal family has to cover up for him on a par with his great great something ancestor, Prince Albert Victor a.k.a. “Eddy”?
A knack for being a son of the prince of Wales, one of the world’s best dressed men, and going around like a hobo in the same roughly 3 outfits and 10,year old shoes
So far, his “achievement” consists of browbeating his Granny into a super lavish wedding and letting his spectacularly unfit bride lead him around by his testicles. I can’t see what William would find fault with here, can anyone?
Like royalty??
Indeed. One can't mock achievements that don't exist.
As far as the BRF is concerned, no need to leak out anything about the Harkles. They are irrelevant, from a monarchy point of view, in about a week. If you get into a back and forth with them, you simply elevate them. And the idea now is to let them fade into obscurity as they no longer have standing.
The Harkles have no meaningful voice left in the UK or the monarchy. Thus, they must focus their intention on trying to convince suckers in the USA that they're important and they matter. That's the game now.
Meg's likely best hope is to go along identity politics lines, as this is her only true 'value' in the USA in my opinion. As much as we in the USA may admire the royals, they don't matter much here from a day to day perspective. People don't think about them a lot here.
It is starting to look as though Joe Biden (presumptive Democratic Party nominee) may select Stacey Abrams (African-American woman) as his running mate. It's early, but she's a strong candidate.
I could see Meg trying to attach herself to Abrams (Oprah endorsed Abrams in Abrams' failed bid for Georgia governor in 2018). This kind of thing (identity politics solidarity as regards gender and race), along with the overall Woke Agenda pandering, is probably the Harkles' best bet to maintaining whatever dwindling relevance they have going forward.
I'm still racking my brain to think of how these people will make Billions
Sure enough, gave away some cakes in New Zealand.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/29/meghan-markle-rushes-back-into-cafe-to-bring-leftover-cake-to-waiting-children-8084281/
Great points about Markles "generosity" @charade. Not only are these donations leftovers, they were also paid for by someone else. So she gets credit for a) something no one else wants and b) generosity paid for by another person, in this case, cakes.
Markles propaganda machine rivals Goebbels. I am looking forward to the day she runs out of money. The level of cynicism required for these stories is truly mind-bending. The couple seems to have no "this is going too far" button, which is ironic considering how sensitive that bar is set for themselves.
Thanks for the post, @nutty and all the great comments from the @nutties.
Well, I believe it on the production company. It's kind of like if no one will publish your book, publish it yourself (or start your own publication company).
Since Hollywood doesn't seem enthralled with Meg, having her own production company is probably a smart move. But even for the Obamas, sure, they signed a deal with Netflix (and I'm sure Meg will try something like that). But how many people actually watch their productions? Maybe it's a good way to get an award and get some easy PR, but not sure that's the best way to make money (unless you know a distributor will buy your stuff).
Agreed about resources needed to run a production company, and also the concept of them making billions (seems beyond them).
I think some stars and wannabes try to get freebies and sponsorships to help cover the costs of these kinds of things. Or maybe you can go with product placement (you give us $500 grand for this documentary and we'll put your car in it). But I'm not sure how much pull or return on investment Meg has or can try to pitch. Her stuff apparently just isn't that widely viewed or cared about, based upon TV ratings we've seen with shows involving her.
Meg has the will to power. She really wants to be rich and be a star, but she lacks the "it" to get there, it seems. Lacks the talent.
I think stepping away from the royal family is going to haunt the Harkles for the rest of their days. They don't matter or stand for anything now.
I was looking at a snippet from the new Meg PR piece in the US Weekly article. It's the same old "Will was mean to Harry" thing. Still playing victim? The "bad, evil, racist monarchy and royals" thing is only going to last so long, even in the USA. Particularly when people (celebs) don't want to jeopardize their ties to the royals to ingratiate themselves to former royals. And given that, as imperfect as they are, no one has ever categorized Charles/Camila or Will/Kate as some kind of evil step-parent type figures that are mean, angry, etc. It just doesn't jibe.
The royal (besides Andrew) with the most infamy and character questions about him is Harry. Glass stones, houses, and all that.
Great post above. Excellent summary
Another excellent observation from you. Markle is generous with money other people paid. She is also liberal with other people's intelligent thought and ideas. Remember quotes she plagiarized.
Love your posts. About documentaries by Harkles-it is a lot more difficult to make a good documentary than fiction. I agree HRkes lack talent to do it themselves, so they will need somebody of David Attenborough calibre to do it for them. Question is would a really talented person with a good name want to attach to the King and Queen of chunga changa? May be, maybe not.
Not an expert consult by any means, but I think MM lacks social intelligence, which could explain her obsession with "surprise" visits and giving away items. The people receiving the visits or items aren't the focus for her, it's about what the gesture makes HER look like (in her mind). Perhaps she thinks "they should be grateful for anything," but it's a matter of dignity.
My sister in law asked me once if I wanted hand-me-downs. I said no thank you as our house is really quite small and I enjoy choosing what to buy for my children. Since then she doesn't ask and just sends boxes of clothes and toys. I. Don't. Want. Her. Leftovers. The virus has made me think about it less, but I can't help feeling I'm being used instead of her going to the Goodwill.
I will never forget the faces of the women in Africa where MM insisted on having them sit on the floor when they were quite comfortable in chairs. And then she made a big show of giving them a onesie that had been gifted to her by someone else. So it's not even a hand-me-down, it's regifting. No home training, as we say this side of the Mason-Dixon.
Interesting how HRcles put themselves into a corner. Let's take Archie. Prank phone call as well as public statements by Harry claim he kicked the royals to "protect his son" from the prying eyes of the media. They show a finger to the people with birth announcement, traditional photos, hide the boy from view. And then, when it is obvious for everybody they are struggling to stay relevant, they roll him out in paid PR about difficult life in isolation? This step will not help them, it will alienate people further and will cause pity for the kid, for being so blatantly used to his parents'advantage by them. It is a dead end. Plus their Christmas disaster pic shows they can't compete with Wills and Kate's professional team. Kate's images with her kids set the standards very high, didn't they?
@Fairy, thank you for bringing up Archie and the Christmas card. Looking at photos last night, SA Archie really does not look like Baptism Archie or even Christmas card Archie. And something is very strange about the lower face and lips of Christmas card Archie.
In the Tutu photos, Archie is not looking at MM or Harry at all. Babies will smile and look at their parents.
My daughter is a pro at social distancing.
—Thomas Markle
You are correct, Archie does not have any discernible or natural connection with MM or Harry at all in the Tutu photos. And I still agree with whoever posted that the Canada Archie photo with JH looked like a photo of MM as a baby. They must think the public is stupid.
And no, they can't compete with the natural photos of the Cams kids in typical family activities.
As I have mentioned before, someday I hope we will know the truth about the mystery of Archie.
94% reply a resounding "No.:
Simpsons producer extends job offer to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
Megan C. Hills
Evening Standard24 March 2020
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/simpsons-producer-extends-job-offer-112757155.html
And I have some recommended reading for them both:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Hold-a-Grudge/Sophie-Hannah/9781982111434
About The Book
NAMED ONE OF THE 100 MUST-READ BOOKS OF THE YEAR BY TIME MAGAZINE
“A cheerful, mischievous rebuke to all that spiritual sincerity and floaty nonattachment and sugary loving kindness” (The Wall Street Journal), this first and only comprehensive examination of the universal, but widely misunderstood, practice of grudge-holding will show you how to use grudges to be your happiest, most optimistic, and most forgiving self.
"Secretly, we all hold grudges, but most of us probably think we shouldn’t, and many of us deny that we do. To bear a grudge is too negative, right? Shouldn’t we just forgive and move on? Wrong, says prolific crime novelist and self-appointed grudge guru Sophie Hannah, in her groundbreaking and irreverent self-help guide. Yes, it’s essential to think positively if we want to live happy lives, but even more crucial is how we get to the positive. Denying our negative emotions and experiences is likely to lead only to more pain, conflict, and stress.
"What if our grudges are good for us? What if we could embrace them, and use them to help ourselves and others, instead of feeling ashamed of our inability to banish negative emotions and memories from our lives? With contributions from expert psychotherapists as well as extracts from her own extensive catalog of grudges, Sophie Hannah investigates the psychological origins of grudges and also offers not-so-obvious insights into how we should acknowledge—and embrace—them in order to improve the quality of our interpersonal relationships and senses of self. Grudges do not have to fill us with hate or make us toxic, bitter, and miserable. If we approach the practice of grudge-holding in an enlightened way, it will do the opposite—we will become more forgiving.
"For fans of Sophie Hannah’s bestselling crime novels who have ever wondered what is going on in her unusual, brilliant mind, How to Hold a Grudge is “a perfect document” (The New York Times) that also reveals everything we need to know about the many different forms of grudge, the difference between a grudge and not-a-grudge (not as obvious as it seems), when we should let a grudge go, and how to honor a grudge and distill lessons from it. Hannah’s practical, compassionate, and downright funny guide can turn us into better, happier people."
Thank you for posting the link to the book about grudges. It sounds like such an interesting read.
Thanks. Enjoy your posts as well. I agree, very tough to make a great documentary. I believe that the documentary that the Obamas won an award for was not their story (got the story from someone else). So the Harkles likely need people to actually craft the story for them, and someone to direct and produce it, too. Then the Harkles try to pretend it's their documentary (lol). Good luck. Also, I don't think there is a lot of money in making documentaries, in general. Nice niche market and virtue signaling mechanism, but not something to bring in large bucks.
@Wizard
Great point on Meg using the same tactics regarding her family as with the royals. Same scam over and over. She needs her fake oppressor to cast herself properly cast herself as victim. Ditto for Harry. Truly, they are made for each other. Two never-was grifters looking to leach off others as a career.
1. She started the Will having an affair rumour
2. She said f*** you about/to Camilla (but not to her face?)
3. She said that HM could "drop dead" (but not to her face?)
4. She called the American President "syphallus" but wants him to provide her security protection in the US
5. She announces a pregnancy at another woman's wedding(and Eugenie has been the most welcoming and the nicest to her)
And yet expects the Royal Family to finance her lifestyle and treat her as if she is an equal in standing to Kate, Cam, indeed HM?????
Am I missing anything?
I do not post often. But I read all the comments. Many of you point out things that are obvious but are often overlooked.
Having listened to the second Greta tape, I am beginning to think that the Harkles have fooled us. Not with the tape , but with their intentions.
I say this because I am in the middle of Michael Caines biography written by Michael Freedland. In this book, Freedland explains that Caine ( not his real surname ) was inadvertently revered for his British accent , not at first , but later on.
Michael Caine's British Cockney accent , of which he was at one time ashamed of ,became a part of his package that was so desired by American directors and producers, that it catapulted him.
So it is not Me Again that is looking for voiceovers or stardom. It is Mr Me Again, Harry whose voice/ accent is coveted. It never was hers. The Americans want his British aristocrat accent and that's where these two were hoping to get into in order to make money. She knew it and fed him enough carrots to entice him and there we are today.
The Simpson nonsense about Me Again is not about her. Its about him, Harry and his voice.
Perhaps a DM reporter should pick up on this and ask about Michael Caine's experience and opinion.
Blind Item #12
The friend who had been banned from this ginger haired royal's life is back in. The friend who was banned was the one who set up the original "date" with the alliterate actress. Apparently the actress is not aware of it yet, but I find that hard to believe. If I know, she must know because we share the same mutual back to the banned friend.
Nothing new (guidelines, support for health care workers)! it's all around us but for them it's a safe bet to avoid backlash.
https://www.instagram.com/sussexroyal/?hl=fr
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-pay-tribute-to-brave-healthcare-workers-fighting-coronavirus/
It's also more direct than that. Philip's grandmother, Queen Olga of Greece, was a granddaughter of Nicholas I of Russia. Of course, the Romanovs haven't been ethnic Russians since Empress Elizabeth in the mid 1700's. They kept marrying Germans or Danes.
Meghan put WHO in her IG as the latest post, with recommendations for what to do re. coronavirus.
I am feeling sorry for her because I don't she has a clue as to what to do next and has no staff left who could guide her (if she would listen to guidance).
While the nation is struggling with the virus and fears for the future he is away posting mindless drivel from Canada or wherever he is.
The rest of the royal family is a part of "us", he isn't. Every single day makes it more obvious. Harry betrayed his country and his people and already cut from it all.
The only thing that can redeem him is a huge multi-million donation to the NHS or to the UK's charity helping the vulnerable, or to the wildlife parks that are struggling to feed the animals now. I don't see him doing that, they will continue with meaningless PR "Meghan donated unwanted food to the poor"
My local COOP has a donation basket and people buy good food to donate to those who need it, it is full every day. Not some unwanted leftovers from the Duchess of Pretense, perfectly good packaged food. And people don't run to papers to report how good they are.
Sounds like they advise us not to breath when we are outside!
I think "practice good respiratory hygiene" means cough and sneeze into your elbow or a tissue, throw away used tissues in plastic trash bag, stuff like that.
Not sure why WHO didn't just say those things.
You make an excellent point about the relative "weight" of their offenses and what they see as "meritorious service".
They try to balance betrayal of their country through donations of unwanted and unusable food and clothing.
Betrayal of their causes with tee shirt slogans and excuses.
And betrayal of family And friends through globalist word salad.
They cannot see that their petty offerings do not carry the same weight as history, as honor, and human decency. In their minds, whatever they offer is superior simply because it comes from them. So they just can't understand why they are so deeply reviled. They can only explain the revulsion through sexism, racism and jealousy.
@jdubya...is that Tom Inskip do you think?
You left a post (on the Nutty Virus blog)for me that you thought you knew me from the small Texas town you lived in before. I answered you but I never saw your response...what was the town you had lived in?
I think you are right. They do not understand why so many people can't stand the sight of them. In their own mind they are great humanitarians and fighters for social justice.
Yes! And they simply cannot and will not see it any differently.
I fear this can only end badly. They each reinforce their shared delusion for each other.
She cleared tables of leftover food and gave them to a homeless shelter?
So one extra task at the end of the work day?
Did she take care of sick children for long shifts as a nurse?
Was she a special education teacher?
Did she work long hours helping people obtain affordable housing?
No, she was an actress, and she decided to donate leftover food and make sure everyone knew about it. Just like the dishsoap story.
Thanks! Intriguing isn't it? I worry for Harry when Markles past is exposed to the public and Ph. He is so easily thrown off course, and finding out his wife was a "yacht girl" who may have "dated" his friends (his uncle?) is going to
bin by devastate him.
I can't imagine he already knows. I don't think MM has told the truth about anything in her past.
Except the "I'm such a fraud" remarks regarding Markle never having had an actors union card.
And isn't that the clunkiest, most ridiculous nickname ever? I can't even say it out loud
I don't think the story is true for that reason alone,
never mind the Health Code violations!
She never disappoints, does she? She never had a grandiose idea that she didn't just love. I cringe for her.
Hi Cam
I reckon it’s Inskip, he supposedly arranged the pay for play
between H & M, he knew her as they had “Sailed” together...
Depends on how old you are whether or not we know each other -- is there a way to send private messages, so we don't bore everyone else on here???
As I raise another glass of Tito's to y'all... Nighty night!
Corona virus address, 28 million, than H & M wedding, 18 million, in the UK.
Subtle shade...
You have driven me crazy trying to find the book you mentioned,
Royal pretending to be Czar? Nothing!! Bizarre 😉
I think it was a typo, should have read
“Meghan s.... on” anyone she meets?
I'm sorry about that - nobody needs to be driven crazy at this of all times.
Thinking it over, I'm wondering if it was Robert Harris's `Archangel' after all? Could it be that the synopsis I read omitted the denouement/spoiler by not mentioning what happened when Stalin's `son' was revealed to the Soviet people? I'll do some more investigation and come back to you.
There is a member of the RF, married to someone who early on upset MM, who in his earlier days bore a striking resemblance to Nicholas II. Nowadays, it's clear that he and Nicholas inherited different pattern-baldness genes - not so obvious when wearing hats which conceal the `very high' forehead!
The book's a darn' good read, as is The Ghost (2007), where, it turns out, a manipulative wife appears to be in charge of her husband - who happens to be the Prime Minister (any resemblance to living person, blah, blah,blah, purely coincidental...
Makes yer think...
Yes, the original Princess pushy. Prince Michael did indeed resemble
Nicholas II when he was younger.
The Duchess of Kent is a favourite of mine,
Yorkshire lass, & my mum vaguely knew her brother Oliver.
I will look out for “The Ghost”
This is the part about MM's con that I really don't get. How could she have somehow "persuaded" or "influenced" Inskip (or whichever one of Harry's friends it was) into not telling Harry she was "pay to play"? Wouldn't Harry's friends have immediately warned him?
The only thing I can think of is that MM made sure to move so quickly that by the time Inskip found out that they were serious about each other, it was too late.
But then again, how could it have been "too late"? Wouldn't a real friend have said something, if not to Harry, then to Wills or even PC? At the very least, this one friend of Harry's must have seen the royal disaster coming down the street. Why didn't he warn someone -- even if it wasn't Harry -- about what was going on?
@Magatha Mistie,
Yes, dear Katharine Worsley - she and the Duke married just before I my O-level exams. I recall one of our younger mistresses (possibly the English teacher?) at school sneaked a transistor radio in and we listened to the service instead of having a lesson. A welcome break from revision.
About 6 weeks earlier, we'd listened to the first manned US space flight (Alan Shepard, Freedom 7) instead of double chemistry.
Hope HAMS PR shields them or there will be pans flying. Lol
Your posts made me think William did try to tell Harry about her past. We only heard a softened version of the conversation. That is why Harry hit the roof. I always thought his reaction was too much for "are you sure you know her well". No, I believe there had been something said that made Markle rapidly hate the Kembridges and others and made her very insecure. Hence her play to get away as soon as possible.
I also believe they had not told the whole truth to Queen to shield her, but she probably knows already.
“Our” Katherine married Prince Edward at York Minster.
Pleased us folk. I don’t remember it.
She, much later in life taught music in a school
in Hull. No one knew who she was, Mrs Kent.
My mum knew Oliver through “Young Farmers” dances.
Breaking News!PC has the virus! Does that mean the Queen may have it, too ?
Or dear!
Oh God, what can one say?
BBC reports that showing `mild' symptoms
Yes, Harry come home - even if you don't feel remorse for not seeing your real family, the British public will never, ever forgive you for not returning.
You won't dare show your face here again.
The Queen, Charles & Wills would have known from the start what she was.
They would have been told by Intelligence services, but would have sussed her
immediately anyway.
Blind/Deaf you would know, she’s so obvious.
The RF underestimated her. Most people of good manners, & common decency would.
Charles is 71 years old. According to this article, his symptoms are mild. Would they tell us otherwise though?
Let us send our prayers for his recovery.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52033845
———
Guess we were right to wonder about the lack of communication from PC. Has it been reported when his positive test and when Camilla's negative test were done?
Prayers for Prince Charles
God Bless Him
It tends to be `Of course she's not like that/ wouldn't do that!' rather than `...not like that, is she...?' or `Wouldn't do that, would she? Would she...?
It leaves observers, and perhaps the victim (much later) being aghast and saying `How COULD She? How could anyone do that?' and it can be months before it really sinks in that that is really what they're like and it's not your imagination.
In this case, the answer is a resounding `Yes! She bloody-well would!'
Due to the numbers of people he sees every day, this was a risk. Hopefully, the social distancing practiced by this family with each other in normal times will mean the Queen has not been exposed. Perhaps the fact that a royal has gotten it will encourage regular citizens to not be blasé about their chances.
I continually ask myself though why a casual good time girl not only drove a wedge between two best pals but why this marriage ever happened. Harry had broken it off, whatever “it“ was, by the end of 2016. Had he gotten bored, or had the extent of her maritime past finally been illuminated? It must’ve been a nasty shock for all concerned when Markle turned up at Tom’s wedding. Until then, most people in Harry’s circle Probably assumed that he was shot of her. Sometime after this, it seems that Tom had a bloke to bloke chat with Harry that resulted in his banishment from the wedding reception and the end of their friendship. Perhaps Tom had to get too graphic in his detail. It seems that Tom, or someone, also put the bug in William’s ear about Haz’s profoundly suspect new bird. The gist of Williams meeting with his brother about this relationship has been heavily edited for public consumption, but there had to have been much more to it. Perhaps William had even been given proofs from his new mates over at MI5. If Wills didn’t pull any punches about Meg’s activities, Harry took it badly to say the least But his anger was directed toward the wrong party.
Paranoia is a symptom of long term cocaine use as well as some firms of mental illness. I think Harry is a chronic paranoid, And these people cannot be reasoned with or talked out of their belief that they are continually under attack. That’s how Williams remarks would have been interpreted… The superior know it all elder brother once again attacking Harry’s choices and his happiness. That hairy could have ever mistaking what Meg was offering him for happiness will be a continual head scratcher even long after this is over. Harry’s friends and family did try to tell and warn him, and we see how H responded.
"Sailed together" hehehe lol
This is the part about MM's con that I really don't get. How could she have somehow "persuaded" or "influenced" Inskip (or whichever one of Harry's friends it was) into not telling Harry she was "pay to play"? Wouldn't Harry's friends have immediately warned him?
The only thing I can think of is that MM made sure to move so quickly that by the time Inskip found out that they were serious about each other, it was too late.
But then again, how could it have been "too late"? Wouldn't a real friend have said something, if not to Harry, then to Wills or even PC? At the very least, this one friend of Harry's must have seen the royal disaster coming down the street. Why didn't he warn someone -- even if it wasn't Harry -- about what was going on?
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I wonder if that is the source of the conflict between William and Harry. And Harry and his old pals? He would have gallantly defended his bride, who then used it to isolate him further.
I'm sorry, my dear!
I answered before reading all the comments.
I agree 100%!
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