It's no secret to regular readers of the blog that we're dealing with some regular posters who are very unpleasant. In particular, they target popular commenters with the goal of making them miserable and driving them away.
My suspicion is that these posters are paid, and that their real goal is to get rid of me and the blog itself.
Social media nitwits have long been part of Meg's PR budget; who can forget her clueless supporters on the DM comment boards? And Meg and her sugars have "outed" or gone after other bloggers who displeased her.
Alternately, we could be talking about a single troubled person who gets their jollies out of creating multiple personalities and arguing with themselves. Whatever it is, it's unwelcome and annoying, and we need to take action.
Anyway, I've identified a few possible approaches, with upsides and downsides.
Here they are:
The negatives: Everyone would have to take a few moments to create a Wordpress profile if they don't already have one. Also, Wordpress shows me your IP which can indicate your general location - unless you use a VPN - plus whatever email address you have set up to comment.
I personally don't care about your email or your location, but if big corporate websites can get hacked, I suppose a small Wordpress site could as well.
Also, this solution would have to wait until I have time to fully implement it.
The positives: Can be implemented today. Allows for nested comments, which is something many Nutties have wanted for a long time, plus GIFS - not sure if that is a positive or a negative!
The negatives: Again, you will have to create an account, and Disqus exposes your email and IP address to me unless you use a VPN. (I suppose our troublesome poster could use a VPN and come up with a lot of nonsense postings from mulitple IPs, defeating the purpose)
I don't go to CDAN much any more - has Disqus worked well for Enty?
Personally, I rather like it that way - should someone get uncovered, I can say with full confidence that I had nothing to do with it!
Unfortunately, that wonderful openness has resulted in abuse. Some dullard seems to think it's fun to make me waste my time deleting multiple idiotic comments, multiple times per day.
What do you think the best way forward could be? I'll leave this poll open until late Monday to get everyone's input, and I'm also open to separate suggestions.
My suspicion is that these posters are paid, and that their real goal is to get rid of me and the blog itself.
Social media nitwits have long been part of Meg's PR budget; who can forget her clueless supporters on the DM comment boards? And Meg and her sugars have "outed" or gone after other bloggers who displeased her.
Alternately, we could be talking about a single troubled person who gets their jollies out of creating multiple personalities and arguing with themselves. Whatever it is, it's unwelcome and annoying, and we need to take action.
Anyway, I've identified a few possible approaches, with upsides and downsides.
Here they are:
Move to a Wordpress Blog
The positives: We can have several moderators, which is not possible for a Google Blogger Account. This would allow someone to moderate during the hours when I am asleep, roughly 10pm-6am Estonian time, which is when the mischief seems to happen.The negatives: Everyone would have to take a few moments to create a Wordpress profile if they don't already have one. Also, Wordpress shows me your IP which can indicate your general location - unless you use a VPN - plus whatever email address you have set up to comment.
I personally don't care about your email or your location, but if big corporate websites can get hacked, I suppose a small Wordpress site could as well.
Also, this solution would have to wait until I have time to fully implement it.
Add Disqus to this Blog
Enty has recently switched to Disqus commenting system on his Google Blog, which allows him to ban users and IPs.The positives: Can be implemented today. Allows for nested comments, which is something many Nutties have wanted for a long time, plus GIFS - not sure if that is a positive or a negative!
The negatives: Again, you will have to create an account, and Disqus exposes your email and IP address to me unless you use a VPN. (I suppose our troublesome poster could use a VPN and come up with a lot of nonsense postings from mulitple IPs, defeating the purpose)
I don't go to CDAN much any more - has Disqus worked well for Enty?
Continue without changes
Google Blogger allows for excellent privacy protection, and it is truly open to all. I see nothing but your screen name; I have no access to your email address or IP.Personally, I rather like it that way - should someone get uncovered, I can say with full confidence that I had nothing to do with it!
Unfortunately, that wonderful openness has resulted in abuse. Some dullard seems to think it's fun to make me waste my time deleting multiple idiotic comments, multiple times per day.
What do you think the best way forward could be? I'll leave this poll open until late Monday to get everyone's input, and I'm also open to separate suggestions.
Comments
I just read your trashcan came back and I had a mental image of a trashcan wearing trainers and googly eyes!
I do not have tea exactly, but I believe there was a story awhile back about Katherine McPhee crashing a private wedding and then complaining about it on social media. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I remember reading it and being shocked that she, a celebrity, would crash a private event and then complain when she was escorted out (if that's how it happened).
In social media posts about it, McPhee allegedly called the bride "rude" and "a loser."
https://pagesix.com/2017/12/04/katharine-mcphee-crashes-wedding-disses-bride-after-getting-kicked-out/
At the time, I didn't know about her connection to MM. But she sounds just like her since she was "crashing" an event and surprised that other people called her out on bad manners!
I agree. Fast losing what little respect I had for him. (PC)
Not really surprised to hear it.
I have to say I’m not very impressed with that super posh Carholic girls’s school Markle and McPhee attended. What exactly were the young ladies learning there? Based in the photos of Megsie attending dances with friends who like her were tricked out like junior escorts, modesty wasn’t much if a requirement. Grifting and gate-crashing seem to have been mastered by a number of the alumnae.
Yup. This is the Press slipping the gloves off. They're primed to unleash the mob via the comments against Beavis and Butthurt, and there isn't any amount of saccharine PR they put out that will drown out the horde. I anticipate waking up to 12k+ comments tomorrow.
That pisses ME off and I’m not British! Isn’t their security estimated to be around 20m A YEAR?!? I’ve heard PC gets an estimated 20-30m from the Duchy per year so for this coming out of the Duchy doesn’t sound likely. So, is PC having the taxpayers pay this? OMG, if he is, look out Monarchy. Could PC and his bad decisions/weaknesses going to be what crashes the Monarchy?
@Gloworm If the British taxpayer is paying for this, there will be hell to pay! This is not going to fade away. Those days are long gone...
Could this blind be about testing the waters for Harry's return to the BRF?
As for Harry Markle... I thought the person was male, but agree whoever writes it has a legal background, and an extensive one. A while back I went down the rabbit hole looking for pictures from the wedding she crashed and couldn't find any other source or at least an earlier source for the photos. Very possible an insider took and/or passed them along to someone burned by Smeg.
NOT saying it's not interesting or that I don't appreciate having another blog to read, just, as I said, on the basis of this one entry I don't think it's the same author.
I work with authors for a living and have an MA in writing so I'm not just going with my gut.
But let me go read some more : ) And thanks for sending it.
Leaving LA for NYC because people won't be "bothered" with them there... they weren't bothered with them in LA!
Agree about PC. I lost a lot of respect for him over the years. He hasn't been a very good father but I'm not sure he had a fatherly example to follow. He needs to practice some tough love so that his youngest finally grows up.
Its always stuck me as odd that MeMe and JCMH have spent so much time apart after marriage. First dating from different continents and then after the wedding she runs off to North America a couple of times without him (early, pre baby). I always assumed it was for IVF given her age. Wish someone with more talent in research than me (which is anybody) could figure out how many times in two years of marriage The Harkles have been apart. Doesn't seem natural.
The Daily Star is one of our least favourable tabloids.
Not to be taken seriously.
That's right! Does it seem odd to you. that newlyweds would take separate (nonwork related) trips? It seems odd to me.
I’m a very, very slow hunt-n-peck sort of typist. At times I feel that I’m not quick enough to join the comments. But I encourage everyone to assume best intentions. If you are not acknowledged by name, it doesn’t mean your comments were not appreciated. This blog is a living organism that benefits from all of you intelligent commenters, whether you post frequently or not. Please know that even if I don’t have a chance to say,”Well done!” that I enjoy hearing the voices of all!
Agree. And they're so contradictory. One day he's lonely, next day he's adjusting fabulously, she's booked solid with jobs, oh wait, she's got nothing, they're moving, no they're not, they love LA, Adele is their new best friend, oh wait, it's Leonardo DeCaprio, oh wait, it's David whoever.
Also, they seem to have a list of ideas that they cycle through. Hardly ever anything new in the stories. This latest b.s. about a project similar to the Obama's....all old news.
It's kinda like...oh let's see, haven't used that one in a while. Or, let's go with 14 today.
Thanks BBW! You would not want that pie. I forgot it was in the oven, so it can best be described as a charcoal pie!
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LOL! And here I thought it to be a nice chocolate something or another!!!
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Loved your comment.
I'm slow at typing due to arthritis in my fingers so tend to keep my comments short and to the point... or I simply post links to newspaper articles. There are ways for us all to contribute. :-)
There are so many intelligent posters on here, I rather sit back and digest their posts, (which I mostly agree with, but not always.) than add little of substance.
What I miss from this blog is an 'edit' button... but a 'like' button would be muchly appreciated too. LOL
@Miggy - Today was the first time I've ever gone to a story there. I'm not sure I even knew they existed! They do seem low level.
Believe me... they're the pits!
"@Indy - thanks for the heads up on exposingsmg - it makes interesting reading. I personally don't think its Harry Markle.... I have always thought (maybe wrongly) that "Harry Markle" is British but this author/collaboration of authors strike me as American..."
I don't think it's Harry Markle either. And I agree that the entry I read today was likely written by an American or at least by a non-Brit. For example, it listed Anne as higher in the line of succession than Andrew and Edward. I don't think someone from the UK would make that mistake.
I've always thought Harry Markle was British too.
last I recall Meg was the one without a family.. what do you suppose purpose of this latest familial PR?
https://micky.com.au/prince-harry-considers-george-clooney-a-big-brother-figure-report/?amp
Is it a hobby, have you taken classes, or is it a profession? Poring over the minute details and shades of meaning in contracts used to be something at which I excelled.
“They had fully expected that British taxpayers would continue to foot the bill for their protection…Harry, in particular, had believed ‘up until the very last minute’ that he would be allowed to keep them " [UK Metropolitan Police officers] ...
The sense of entitlement and complete inability of JH and his barracuda wife to see their own hypocrisy is absolutely astounding.
The British Taxpayer has endured more than 2 years of this pair ripping the taxpayer off, spending money like drunken sailors, being disrespectful to all that the British people hold dear, including HM The Queen, trashing traditions, making money on the side, complaining endlessly, and doing everything they could to put the spotlight on themselves instead of playing their role as a minor support act in the Royal Family.
Despite all that, the deluded duo believed the British Taxpayer would once again be there to bail them out, paying millions of pounds a year for security to make them feel important.
Their delusion is beyond words.
https://www.exposingsmg.com/
Hunh. I would call George Clooney the father figure and David Foster the grandfather figure. Maybe in the next PR reveal Leonardo DiCaprio will be his new big bro. Who is going to be his mother figure, since somebody is inventing an entire new family for him out of show biz people? Emma Thompson?
I lurk but never post. I love this blog! Thank you to Nutty for your time and effort re: this blog! I think you're a fantastic writer. Megsy does give us lots to discuss, it's like a train wreck, you just can't look away! I came from CDAN also, I don't read CDAN Anymore because the other format takes forever to load (also, some of the stories there have become a little off the wall). I scroll past all the bickering, I just don't have the time to read all that ridiculousness! Nutty, do whatever is easiest for you. I am sure the people that love this blog will follow no matter what you decide. Cheers!
I think the familial PR BS is out there to say Harry doesn't need the RF. Don't know that it comes from Harry but M probably wants to show the world he's fine without them. He has Mum Doria (like Will has Ma Middleton) he has a new dad and a new older brother, next I guess we'll hear about his new sister (as Kate was the sister he never had.) Wonder if he'll get a new grandmother too?
last I recall Meg was the one without a family.. what do you suppose purpose of this latest familial PR?
What is with all these new “family figures” that Harry is collecting suddenly? Does he not realize he has a family that loves him and wants to be part of his life? Honestly, I didn’t think he could show his family any less respect. Clearly, I was wrong.
Bless his heart, I think Prince Charles tried his best after Diana died. However, he let guilt guide his parenting so we have the Harry we see today. PC probably should have gotten some professional guidance. Losing a parent is hard for a child and I would imagine even more difficult when you are grieving in the public eye. That said, I don’t think PC has ever been absent, uninterested, or disengaged from Harry or William. I think he did the best he did with what he had.
And poor William! From everything we’ve ever seen, he has been Harry’s rock. They we inseparable from the day Diana died until the day Megsy showed up on the scene. William continued to include him after he married Catherine.
I’d be curious to know if this is coming from Harry or Meghan.
People make the same mistakes consistently. Or they use the same level of difficulty, the same rhythms, number of multisyllabic words, sentence lengths, literary devices . . that's how it works. So in the contracts you were reading, this might come in to play if someone tried to alter some boilerplate, or substituted some paragraphs after the fact.
So as it is, and since I CAN'T start over (too old), I just confine my interests to making an author, or multiple authors', voices stay consistent and to keep the writing tidy.
We're all kind of sensitive around here these days : )
My Mum still buys the Oor Wullie Annuals for all the grandchildren for Christmas every year (as she did for her own children). This year they got a combo with The Broons -- that's what she could get. So not sure if this is the model going forward. I'm pretty sure none of them open a page, but would feel the lack if Granny didn't include it --it's part of the ritual.
So as it is, and since I CAN'T start over (too old), I just confine my interests to making an author, or multiple authors', voices stay consistent and to keep the writing tidy.
It must be difficult to keep a voice consistent throughout a book. I find that I change "voices" (accent and vocabulary) quite often throughout the day and depends upon the person that I am speaking with/to.
The BRF really has to start shutting these two down PRONTO! It's gone beyond mildly ooopphhh, into full-blown "Are you fucking kidding me?!" They are a Gong Show, and it takes an immense amount of arrogance to continue plugging their bullshit yadayada (insert topical issues here)
then waiting for us all to jump on board the "They're sooo Relatable" Train. They aren't, and I'm not in need of a ride.
WILD BOAR BATTLE MAIDEN AND GLOWORM. RE: HARRY MARKLE. I was googling and inadvertently came across a blog called "Exposingscandals. . . .
It is a tumblr blog.
https://exposingsmg.tumblr.com/
Just saw your post. Will read.
Snipped...Shedding light on the deal, a source told the Daily Mail: ‘They had fully expected that British taxpayers would continue to foot the bill for their protection but then the rug was pulled from under their feet and they had to ask Prince Charles to step in.
AliOops said...
@Miggy
Yup. This is the Press slipping the gloves off. They're primed to unleash the mob via the comments against Beavis and Butthurt...
Do you think it's the press or BP? That article included a very specific detail about PH -- "Harry in particular had believed right up until the last moment they would be allowed to keep them [their security detail]..." -- that had to come from an inside source. Could the British press have learned of that?
Is the UK public really against the HAMS as I have been led to believe or is deference to the Queen preventing the UK public from doing anything about this? I know she is a beloved figure and rightly so, but is respect preventing the populace from rising up against the Queen and Charles funding these two? Is this a case of where the Queen does anything she wants no matter what..I ask because it seems when Diana died the UK public had a hand in how the Queen publicly reacted, seemingly bowing to the public's mood.
I ask in sincere interest because it seems that the HAMS has wounded the UK public and it might be a sore that will fester for some time to come. Or are people waiting to see what happens when this one year trial is over. And with that, what does the UK posters or those with a pulse on the national sentiment, think will happen at the one year point!
I read the recent article stating that HAMS Might move to New York but it was such a speculative read as it could have been written by anyone. Personally I think the HAMS will remain in LA for quite awhile and await the reopening of society there, with Meg hoping to get some gigs and Harry of course, working on the Oprah series on mental health. With the depressed real estate market due to CV-19 I think they will buy a house or at least rent one since they are beginning to look like hapless couch surfers, or a more elevated class, a la 'mansion moochers'.
I am currently reading " The real Diana" by Lady C ... I am astonished by the similarities between D and MM!! Mind you this book was written in 1998. It totally feels like deja vu! Even Diana had tendency of waking up really early and calling her stuff from 6 am. ..I got it on Amazon kindle for CAD 8.95. No wonder Harry is so attracted to MM. he feels like his mommy came back...he was so little to understand the real situation."
I'd love to hear all about the Diana and MM parallels, and to understand poor middle-aged Harry's issues grappling with the real situation that occurred decades ago. Please enlighten us!
I think you've got it! They've probably just shrugged and said "howay lads".
It's all starting to sound a bit pathetic from the Sussex Camp now. Umpteen months of "precious family time" is fooling no one who has had two months of it in their own homes, never mind squatters gaffs.
"Do you think it's the press or BP? That article included a very specific detail about PH -- Harry in particular had believed right up until the last moment they would be allowed to keep them [their security detail]..." -- that had to come from an inside source. Could the British press have learned of that?"
Would also like to add - I think you're spot-on with that! BP isn't speaking for them anymore. All parties made that perfectly clear. I think BP is twisting itself into pretzels making non-statements about the two dipshits, while Harry becomes made aware just how much being a working member of the royal family costs. Whilst larking about with the dog at Tyler Perry's pool.That's the sum total of what these two losers have accomplished. At such cost.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/05/blind-item-5_25.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/BaronessBruck/status/1264941748624789504
Re: JH wanting to spend a couple of months in Britain.
I am just throwing these thoughts out there to see if any Nutties agree/disagree with the following possible scenarios:
Perhaps JH & MM have had second thoughts about their book, or rather their whinge-fest dictated to Omid by MM - maybe JH thinks that he ought to come back and butter up the RF in case they take umbrage and stop the money and/or titles. The Queen will be at Balmoral when their book comes out (11th August) and PH wants to be on hand to calm things down.
OTOH, maybe JH has a secret agenda of his own - I understand that the Covid virus should be under control round about August and that should be the time that Skippy turns up to see JH (if his visit is really on the cards). He could back up JH in his quest to come home for a bit, leaving MM to stew in her own juice for a while.
I am hoping it may be the latter reason but I fear that any visit from JH would fit in with the first.
What do you think? Or is it just me?
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The latest estimate for security is $4 million per year, which makes it even odder that PC is covering it. He could’ve just paid the $2.3 million for Frogmore, and had them be responsible for their own security. Although I do believe the quote that JH ‘assumed’ that security would be covered. This would go so far in explaining how chaotic and unplanned this transition was. They went into it thinking that they didn’t owe anything on Frogmore, security would be paid by the UK, they’d have a free place to live, at least initially, and that they would be making 100’s of millions, if not a billion, per year. Seems so easy, right? Expectations vs. Reality.
I think the protective bubble around the Queen is going to be staying in place well past August. I don't see her going to Balmoral at all this summer, which makes me sad for her, but it's too risky. Not will she be seeing her family in person for some time to come.
I think that the separation/divorce is already underway, and I think that Harry initiated it. (Most people believe that MM was using him and would dump him when she’s done, but I think that he’s leaving her.) That’s why we keep getting articles about JH’s birthday, their anniversary, and that they’re enjoying their ‘family time’, even though it’s supposedly been going on since November. Happy, stable couples do not need to leak this crap. I do believe that Enty publishes blinds from MM’s camp. When I read this one, it’s as though she’s giving him an ultimatum. If he goes away for a few months anyway, she’ll use it to say that she decided to divorce him.
Notice that there’s no mention of MM & ‘Archie’ going with him? We’ve already heard previously that ‘Archie’ was definitely going to Balmoral this summer. If lockdown is over, and HM does go to Balmoral, what is MM’s excuse? There’s certainly nothing keeping her in LA.
Even if the Queen is still in her protective bubble this summer, there are still other senior royals that may take umbrage at the contents of the book, W&K especially. Whilst I think a certain amount of self-preservation would prevent MM from saying too much about the monarch, I would like to bet that she's had a right go at them. If the rumours are true about JH getting back into contact with his brother, he won't want him upset too much.
However, if this is really a sign that JH and MM are really splitting up - Whoopie!!! All my Christmases will come at once!
The next day is the “Glorious 12th” start of grouse shooting hehehe!!
@BlueBell
I used to love Bunty, & Judy comics.
I’m sure my mum still has a few Annuals in her attic.
She still sends me Cadbury’s Selection boxes every Christmas,
it costs more in postage than to buy them!!
Just a thought
I have never believed the story and timeline of how and when they met, and the debacle over dates in the Vanity Fair was a huge red flag (print version said they met in May at an event in Toronto), online said they were set up on a blind date in June, probably in London.
What if they did meet in Toronto in May at an event where Corey catered and Meghan gatecrashed? There was a brief flirtation but he walked away from the event and forgot about her. She, however, had found her mark. She dumps Corey, heads off to London, persuades a 'friend' to set her up on a blind date with Harry. The 'friend' could have been Markus Andersen (why does it occur to no one that the two could have completely lied about being set up on a blind date by a female friend ... why protect 'her' identity anyway?). The 'set up' could have been both being invited to a group event (such as a dinner) and Meghan thus getting 'another bite at the apple' and somehow arranging to meet for a drink the next day. Harry vaguely remembered meeting her in Toronto and was very taken, on this second occasion, by the love bombing (those intense looks, the hand on the arm or back, the echoing of his ideas and thoughts). At drinks the next day, at Soho House, Meghan went in for the kill and moved to the next level (i.e. bagged an invite to Africa to sleep with him under the stars, where, in the tent, she got him completely smitten).
The only plan with my version of how Harry and Meghan met and hooked up as an item is the dates. Was there enough time in June in London for two back-to-back meetings?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBD_en-gbZA782ZA782&sxsrf=ALeKk02sj2pgY9cxpY7pQBRH1WniLVsvYg:1590473977200&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=sarah+ann+macklin&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDxL2j8dDpAhWxo3EKHZdTDPMQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=682&bih=655
Consider:
* Harry always seemed to move on quite easily when a relationship/flirtation ended and is rumoured to have done some cheating/two-timing as well.
* A frustrated flirtation with the model would have made him very ready to jump into intimacy with the older look-alike actress.
I will read the nutty blog in any format.
I appreciate the time nutty spends creating and running this community. It is unfortunate that she is forced to spend time moderating and deleting inappropriate comments.
Insults and infighting get out of hand at times.
Like many readers I scroll past some posts. It would be a nice feature to be able to ignore all posts by a single poster. Commenting on particular posts directly under said post would also be a nice feature.
One or two inaccuracies -the Royals aren't `Government officials' in the way that I understand the term (that is, not part of the Civil Service) although Harry's presence at the games in Toronto was `official' in the sense that it wasn't a private/personal trip.
Also the reference to `Charles's estate'meaning presumably the Duchy, er, no. It would accurate to refer to Highgrove a `his' as he bought it.
I noted the comment `Sis was securing the main bag' with regard to the wedding. Does `Sis'imply that the writer is a WOC?
It's assumed they went on honeymoon - over here, we have our doubts about that, thanks to the lack of evidence.
The HarryMarkle photos I particularly had in mind were those taken at BP, indoors and in the grounds at the garden party. Were they leaked? I agree, it's probably someone close to the heart of this.
I'd like resolution to this whole affair sooner rather than later. At the moment, public attention is focused elsewhere on, something with different, but potentially serious, repercussions. Anger about that, plus rage about the Harkle's, could land the country in almost unprecedented turmoil.
On the lighter side, I never expected The Broons and Our Wullie to get a mention here. Suddenly, I see H as Oor Wullie, as in - `I'm awfy tired today' and `Ach, I seem to be stony broke'.
Might the RF be the Broons?
I was a Dandy & Beano girl myself.
http://www.royalfoibles.com/harry-and-meghans-latest-battle-royal/
A long post, but nothing new ... rather a summing up of what has been in the news for the past month or so.
Thank you for researching the Inskip wedding photos - long lens explains those but presumably there was some sort of `public access' to the sites, even if it meant crawling through bushes. I'm less sure about the BP photos.
I know HM has personal photographer who is at everything that happens (there was a TV doc about him) but I still wonder.
up to £4million a year, which had not been budgeted for by the couple.' Not budgeted for? Shows how well prepared and planned their exit was!
'As a result, they had to ask Prince Charles to bear the cost of their security if they were to have any chance of clearing their Frogmore debt.' So Charles is paying £4M/year and they're repaint Frogmore - £2.4M @ £18,000/month??? As a commenter said, "a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul".
There's a video, an old one, I think, at the end of the article (couldn't stomach it, too early) with a still showing Harry (formerly known as Prince) talking to some young lads with the subtitles 'Where are you from?' and the following caption: 'It's the best: Harry and Meghan gush over their love of California'. I wonder if Harry still feels the same.
Duke and Duchess of Auchtermuchty may be more apt..
I could go a Desperate Dan Cow Pie
I still think they jumped before they were pushed.
They were told after the SA trip, buck up or buck off.
The RF knew what their plan was all along.
They took their “time out” to plot their manifesto
and how best to screw the RF and take what they thought they were due.
As always, no attention to detail/laws, just a greedy grab by two entitled sods.
“Where there’s muck there’s brass”
Exactly! As you say, no attention to detail (that's our Meg).
No planning, no thinking things through. They never think of consequences because they can't think long term.
Things are unravelling, methinks.
May I offer `Beryl the Peril' as a handle for anyone who needs a user name here? Or is that a better nickname for YKW?
@RÔDANT: I didn't know that Americans only have two weeks vacation. In France we are lucky. Like most French people, I have 45 days of holidays (9 weeks) to which you have to add public holidays (Easter, Christmas, New Year's Day, July 14th, August 15th, etc....) we have nearly 60 days of holidays per year, and of course also every weekend. My sister who is a teacher has more holidays than me. Every 7 weeks she stops working and has 15 days of school holidays. She does not work in July and August and resumes classes in September. And like all French people we are never happy and we strike to show our dissatisfaction. (The good life anyway...)
This is the link you were looking for. There are three parts in all.
https://www.exposingsmg.com/blog/meghan-harry-pt1
Oprah, Ellen, Elton, Clooney, Jennifer Garner and Tyler Perry all have their own movie production companies. McPhee is well-connected with both Broadway and TV, David Foster is well-connected in LA through the music scene, as is Elton (also Broadway and movies).
None of them can find a gig for MM in Hollywood? None of them can find a job for Harry? Are The Harkles so talentless that the people mentioned above won't take a chance on them? Do they really want to work, or do they just want to be penniless international roving freeloaders?
The kindness of these semi-friends will begin to stale eventually, when they begin to see that The Harkles aren't doing anything worthwhile to help themselves to become financially independent. They also won't stick around as The Harkles become even more of an international joke than they are now. Nobody wants to be connected to two bumbling losers.
Meghan and Harry
Harry lived at Nottingham Cottage, part of the Kensington Palace complex (Crown property). He paid no rent for the cottage and paid nothing for upkeep. We do not know if he paid for utilities. Meghan moved in with him a few months before he proposed.
https://za.pinterest.com/pin/477100154267065883/
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/harry-and-meghans-new-life-together-at-nott-cott/news-story/92f81018f1f9715ea413f69832ea9c2a
Nottingham Cottage seems to have remained empty since they moved out.
Did you know that William and Kate lived at Nottingham Cottage for two and a half years, until shortly after George was born? (So the story that the Harkles had to move when she became pregnant as the cottage was too small was nonsense.) Another family connection was that Diane's sister (Jane) and brother-in-law (Robert Fellowes, who served as Private Secretary to Queen Elizabeth II) were also previous residents of the cottage.
Meghan and Harry rented a small country estate in the Cotswold (further from London than Frogmore and more isolated but close to Soho Farmhouse). Here is some info on this estate (Frogmore Cottage must have felt like a 'step down' for them):
... the royal couple’s rented home is located on the Great Tew Estate near Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, and is comprised of three primary structures: the main farmhouse, a separate two-bedroom cottage for staff and guests, and a converted barn that boasts not one but two kitchens, one on each of its two floors. The converted barn also features an indoor sitting area with floor-to-ceiling windows and an outdoor seating area with patio heaters. The main farmhouse consists of four bedrooms (though one is currently being used as a dressing room), and overlooks the property’s four sprawling acres.
Harry and Meghan reportedly signed a two-year lease on the new home last May, less than two weeks after their televised wedding ceremony at Windsor Castle. The Cotswolds home is meant to act as an interim home base as they await renovations on Frogmore Cottage in Windsor, which will be their new official residence starting this spring.
https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/see-the-first-photo-of-meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-cotswolds-home
https://za.pinterest.com/pin/64739313379995976/
Why sign a two-year lease if they were going to move to Frogmore Cottage? I find that little detail odd.
They moved into Frogmore Cottage (a row of four cottages made into one) just before Archie was born and less than a year after their marriage. Renovations and fixtures (plus who knows how much of furnishing) plus work to the garden and grounds (small as they are) were paid for out of the Sovereign Grant. The amount is not clear as work done stretched over two financial years (that sojourn in Windsor Great Park was so short that the accounts for the second year have not yet been made public). It is unknown how much Charles gave them for the furnishing and decorating of Frogmore Cottage nor how much they spent of their own money. We do now know that they never paid any rent or signed any kind of lease agreement. All that changed when the Queen called their bluff and they were out as working royals. They now had to pay back the money from the Sovereign Grant spent on the property and had to start to pay rent. They only did so when Charles dug deep into his pockets to pay for their expensive security in LA. We don't know for what else Charles pays. Until then, their rent-free occupation of Crown properties seemed to be taken for granted, as Grace and Favour homes (a residential property owned by a monarch by virtue of his or her position as head of state and leased, often rent-free, to persons as part of an employment package or in gratitude for past services rendered).
Meghan and Harry keep acting like victims who have not been treated fairly. Is this so?
If you read further down on redredred's twitter, somebody who lives in Australia said that the book hasn't been released there yet. A couple of excerpts, including the first page, have been released, though.
The living arrangements for these two followed a similar but also very different path from that of Meghan and Harry.
While at university, along with some friends, they rented a place and lived off campus.
They became engaged in October 2010 (announced October 2010) and married April 2011.
Their first home together was in Agelsey in Wales, in a cottage they rented.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-william/10328491/First-look-inside-the-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Cambridges-Anglesey-home.html
Their London base was Nottingham Cottage, as a Grace and favour property (i.e. they presumably did not pay rent).
A few months after George was born, they moved into Apartment 1A in Kensington Palace (previously the home of Princess Margaret). The renovations were paid for out of the Sovereign Grant (including the expensive removal of asbestos), but the amount was less than half of what was spent on Frogmore Cottage (without taking inflation into account). One assumes that they personally paid for furnishings and decorations. However, they do not pay rent and it is thus regarded as a Grace and Favour home. Their home at Kensington Palace is a working one as their offices are located there and they do hold functions there as well.
Amner Hall (plus a huge amount of land around it) was a gift to the couple from the Queen (so they now own it) and she paid for any renovations work (William and Kate personally paid for any furnishings and decorations and fitting for the home). The property is at Sandringham, which is the personal property of the Queen (so, it is not Crown property).
So, the Cambridges have two homes, neither of which they bought, only one that they own, and both for which they paid for furnishing, decorating and equipping. They pay for staff for both homes, but I am not sure if they are liable for rates, taxes and utility bills for the Kensington Palace apartment.
I wonder if Meghan and Harry would have been able to keep Nottingham Cottage as a Grace and Favour home or been given apartments at Buckingham Palace (their home in London) if they had purchased/been given a 'country' property rather than moving into another Grace and Favour property. However, if, like the Cambridges, they had been given a country property, they would have had to pay rates and taxes and utility bills (as well as for upkeep) and would have had to depend on the generosity of family to pay for any renovations.
Remember that the break from Kensington Palace (as their working base) came only 5 or 6 months after their marriage so until then, having a London base at Kensington Palace made sense because that is where their staff was (so, one assumes that they abandoned Nottingham Cottage because they could not have two Grace and Favour homes). One assumes that after the split from the Cambridges, they had use of apartments at Buckingham Palace (maybe St James Palace) for when they were in London for work. If not, the commute must have been onerous, even though they did not drive themselves and thus could use the commuting time for phone calls and other work.
So, Meghan and Harry did not get what the Cambridges got (they got one home instead of two) and still did not have a property they actually owned, but neither did they have bills to pay for their home.
Was this fair? What did the Queen give her children and her other grandchildren?
Charles has a lot of properties, but almost all of them are privately owned (actually, all except Clarence House)
During his marriage to Diane, he lived in an apartment in Kensington Palace (actually, two apartments were combined to make a home for them and taxpayers paid for that renovation work). It was a Grace and Favour property. They personally paid for furnishings and decorations but they paid no rent (and presumably no taxes not any utility bills). It was a working home for them (i.e. their offices were at Kensington Palace).
Their home in the country was Highgrove House, a property Charles bought a year before his marriage, This is property he personally owns and pays for the upkeep.
After their separation and divorce, Diane remained at Kensington Palace and Charles moved into York House, a historic wing of St James's Palace (another Grace and Favour home). Charles lived at York House with his sons until 2002 (he still uses York House as office space and for events). Charles then took over Clarence House as his London residence (also a Grace and Favour residence and a working residence in that he will hold events there and host receptions there, and so on). Before he moved into Clarence House, the mansion was refurbished with the British taxpayer footing the bill of £4.5 million, though Charles did spend £1.6 million of his own money on soft furnishings.
What about Birkhall? The estate is situated on the edge of Balmoral (personal property of the Queen) inAberdeenshire. Dating from 1715, the estate, which sprawls over 53,000 acres, was acquired by Prince Albert in 1852 together with Balmoral. It eventually passed to the Queen Mother, who bequeathed the property to her grandson upon her death in 2002. So, Birhkhall is private and Charles owns it and privately pays for upkeep, taxes utilities, and so on.
Dumfries House (private, not Crown property): Charles bought with a consortium (so he does not own it outright) and does not use it as a residence, although I think him and Camilla will stay there sometimes.
Castle Mey (property of the Queen Mother, but also private and not Crown property): owned by a Trust but Charles will visit and stay there. It is now being renovated to make apartments/cottages/rooms available for paying guests.
Llwynywermod (privately owned) is Prince Charles' 192-acre Welsh estate on the edge of the breathtaking Brecon Beacon mountains in Carmarthenshire. Though he has been titled Prince of Wales since 1958, he acquired the property relatively recently, with the Duchy of Cornwall purchasing the house and grounds in 2006. Charles and Camilla stay there once a year, and I think there are some cottages on the estate that are rented to guests.
Tamarisk (Isles of Scilly): a small property that Charles purchased and thus privately owns. The cottage is rented out to paying guests.
Charles also purchased a couple of projects in Transylvania (why!).
I guess, if you look at this property portfolio, Meghan must have thought: All that property and not one where I would want to live. How about Granny gives us a huge apartment in Windsor Castle (it is so big, she could give us an entire wing and not notice) or Frogmore House with all the surrounding land. Granny believed her that she just loved Windsor and it was where they got married and, and, and ... Granny gave them Frogmore Cottage!
What did Charles get from the taxpayers or as a gift? Well, the Queen has not given him any property at all, but the Queen Mother did bequeath him two properties (Birkhall and Castle Mey). The taxpayer funds two properties in London for him (Clarence House and York House).
Harry and Meghan reportedly signed a two-year lease on the new home last May, less than two weeks after their televised wedding ceremony at Windsor Castle. The Cotswolds home is meant to act as an interim home base as they await renovations on Frogmore Cottage in Windsor, which will be their new official residence starting this spring.
The Delusional Dumbartons lived in the Cotswalds. The rarely lived at Frogmore Cottage. This is why they are addicted to, insist on, and demand expensive security. Their security is very good at covering at their tracks. Esp. their Royal Protection Service.
Between the two residences we know which one Megsy insisted on. Her paranoia meant Cotswalds. She married into a family she cannot stand. If Megsy were not so nutty they could have lived at Nottingham Cottage while Frog Cott was being renovated.
But in progressive steps M was moving them both further away physically from the BRF until it was Canada then Hollywood.
It's early here. I do hope now that I've outed myself that I haven't made any typing/writing errors. There are a LOT of good writers on this site; I have long been impressed by the high quality of writing, more so than on many other boards. Which is interesting! Okay, I'm off topic!
Has an apartment and offices at Buckingham Palace/St James Palace that she uses as a base as a full time working royal. It is Grace and Favour in that she does not pay rent in any way. Any costs are covered by the Sovereign Grant.
Gatcombe Park (a country estate) was a wedding gift from the Queen and is privately owned and privately paid for. (Unlike Amner Hall, it was not property that the Queen already owned.)
Both Anne's children live on the estate.
Prince Andrew
Like Anne, he had offices and an apartment at Buckingham Palace when he was a full-time working royal. He no longer has access to the offices or apartment as he is no longer a working royal (but I am sure Mummy has a room for him when he comes to visit!).
When he got married, he was gifted land and the Queen paid for a house to be built for him and Sarah. That was Sunninghill Park - privately owned and eventually sold.
Prince Andrew's residence is the Royal Lodge in Windsor Great Park, which includes large grounds around the large residence. His ex-wife, Sarah, has an apartment there. It is Crown property so Andrew does not own it. He has a lease. He paid for renovations out of his own pocket and his lease agreement was adjusted accordingly (i.e. he pays a lower rent). I assume he also pays for utilities but I am not sure if he or the taxpayer are liable for maintenance.
Prince Edward
Like his siblings, he has offices and an apartment that he uses in Buckingham Palace/St James Palace as he is a full time working royal. Costs for these are covered by the Sovereign Grant. Like Andrew and Anne, if he stops being a full-time working royal, he loses the offices and apartment (note that by apartment I mean a bedroom, bathroom and sitting room).
He leases Bagshot Park, and a large piece of land around it, which is Crown property in Windsor Great Park. The rent he pays is higher than what Andrew pays as he did not pay for renovations.
The question that occurs to me is the following: why did Meghan and Harry get a Grace and Favour property? Other than Charles, none of the Queen's children have a Grace and Favour property as their primary residence, yet they are all full-time working royals.
The other options were for Charles to gift them a property (he did not for William and Catherine so it would be argued that he was not required to do so for Harry and Meghan, and he did not have a suitable property in his portfolio for either of his sons). The Queen stepped in and gifted William and Catherine a property (as she did for two of her children), but she did so from property she already had and that William would one day inherit anyway.
According to existing models (contrary to what they said), Meghan and Harry had the following options:
* A Grace and Favour apartment in Buckingham Palace (or even keep Nottingham Cottage) as long as they were full-time working royals. Essentially, the costs of the apartment (not a family home) would be covered by the Sovereign Grant.
* A private residence that they purchased themselves (as Charles did).
* A private residence that they leased and paid rent for (as do Andrew and Edward).
* A private residence that was gifted to them by Charles or the Queen from property they privately owned. Charles got two properties from his grandmother when she died (that she privately bought and owned). The Queen gifted one property to William (that she inherited). Both Charles and William are heirs to the throne ... direct heirs.
* A private residence that was bought for them (as the Queen did for Anne and Andrew).
There are no working or non-working royals that get to live on Crown property for free, other than the Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William (none of them can choose to be non-working royals without abdication). It has been reported that the Queen pays rent for or assists with the rent for her cousins, who all live on Crown property.
Should `fairness' be absolute?
Regardless of need? Input? Regardless of status? Regardless of whether they deserve it or not? Regardless of how little responsibility they shoulder?
Should it be `fairness of opportunity'?
If it `fair' for them to behave as they have and continue to do?
Is `fairness' the same as `equality'? What has `equality' to do with the Line of Succession anyway?
They make it clear that neither of them is capable of deep thought and that her greed is knows no limits.
properties!
But they are also projects in that Charles seems to love restoring property and creating something useful for the community to use and provide work for the community.
Didn't Charles offer Harry a working rural estate far from London that he turned down? (Can't remember exactly where but the location started with an "H"?)
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Hereforeshire, in the West, bordering Wales
A friend of the Cambridges speaking to Tatler magazine revealed: 'William and Catherine really wanted to be hands-on parents and the Sussexes have effectively thrown their three children under a bus.'' (DM)
I don't know what genuine friend would talk to Tatler or any other publication but K&W's feelings, if true, are understandable.
I doubt that anything said in this article is true.
Red flags for me:
Those close to her (including staff) call her Catherine and not Kate. That is a big hint that none of this is coming from anyone remotely close to her.
It's lockdown so Catherine is not interacting with people outside of her closest family, friends and staff, all people she can trust implicitly.
Katie Nicholl is all over the tabloids right now. She most definitely does not have access to the Cambridge household and I doubt very much that she has access to the Sussexes. She was one of the tabloid reporters who built her reputation as a royal reporter on information from the hacking of voicemail accounts for William, Harry, Catherine, Chelsea and others. Neither William nor Harry would be talking to her nor would they want their wives talking to her, nor anyone on their staff, in their family or any friends.
Since neither William nor Catherine have taken on any of the patronages or positions of Harry or Meghan, so far there has been no change to the amount of work they do. Besides they are not stupid ... they know that as older royals retire, their workload will increase. It is losing hard-working royals such as Princess Anne, the Queen and Prince Philip that are significant (even the Queen's cousins) and not the not-so-important Sussexes.
in the DM too!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8357249/Kate-Middleton-feels-exhausted-trapped-enormous-workload-Megxit.html
Exactly, in the DM (I did put DM at the end of the quote). A 'friend'? Or one of MM's trying to make Kate look weak and incapable?
"Or one of MM's trying to make Kate look weak and incapable?"
Or possibly setting the stage for Harry's return to shoulder some of the Royal responsibilities.
I don't think anyone will believe this...
But one is that it would have been such a dumb thing to say. H&M's son is younger than any of the Cambridge kids so presumably he requires more hands-on care (from somebody.) And H&M may want another child. So saying H&M should work because of W&K's kids just sounds bad. While it's fair IMO for W&K to be accorded greater privileges, wealth, homes, honors, etc because of Will's place in the line of succession, that doesn't mean less work too!
Think this is SS's work. Kate's friends aren't going to start leaking now if they never did before. Plus W&K don't seem to have taken on work that H&M would have done anyway.
Is "thrown under the bus" a common UK expression?
Apologies? Why? You've said/done nothing wrong. The stage might possibly be set for Harry's return, as you said :)
I don't comment very much but I can't say I was ever made to feel unwelcomed here by anyone. Perhaps not commented back to but hey I am new. I don't like Meghan and always found her fake, do I believe the conspiracy stuff that there is no baby, she wasn't really pregnant NOPE you could tell from TTC she had that baby anyone who was too vain of getting fat to have a baby surely isn't going to inject themselves afterward with Pregnaoise to make them appear full face. Do I think she set up to bag a rich man yep and she picked the dumbest of the bunch and will throw him away when he is no more use to her its in her personality to do so, these are the things I come here to talk about and feel comfortable. Why should people who do not like this woman be attacked by others who adore her? After all they lock up their stuff so you cannot comment or remove your comments (hello celebitchy).
But I think if people's privacy is a person's main concern (getting doxxed etc). Then stay here and don't feed the troll. Ignore it and it will go way eventually. I've probably said too much being new here and only have posted maybe a handful of times but I do enjoy reading what others have written. I Hope we get to stay here.
We had a steady feed last week of stories. Now it seems Kate is being targeted.
If the strategy is to wear down the RF, I hope they don't give in.
Cee Bee
@CeeBee64495886
My friend who works for a PR Company in London told me the other day that she'd heard that an announcement of a separation is on it's way!! And as you say, all these stories plus she's hit her 2year barrier so it can't be much longer!
Could explain why Markle's PR has been blanketing the media with all these ridiculous articles.
Yep, you said it, using multiple names...you are just another name for "Unknown' or 'Elle' etc... You can't prove that I posted what is on LSA. And btw Nutty did not say anything about it!
Yesterday turned out good and no one bothered me now you have to start Shit so STFU troll. You are the troll stupid.
Do you know, I didn't even notice!!! 😂 Thanks anyway 😉
@Teasmade
Yes, quite possible. It certainly wouldn't be unexpected. Rumours have been going round for some time.
But I think if people's privacy is a person's main concern (getting doxxed etc). Then stay here and don't feed the troll. Ignore it and it will go way eventually.
Catseyes is the only dedicated troll. So never engage with her. Even when she posts reasonable items as she has the last few days. Sorry auld Cats, you made it this way
Catseyes sometimes posts as unknown. If it is an unknown talking crazy sh!t then it is her.
We also have a few normal and civil unknowns. OK to engage with an unknown who is civil. Please all legitimate unknowns go get a posting name to reduce any confusion.
Establish a posting name here by doing a search for "Google Accounts". >>>
You sign into Google Accounts then look for Personal Info>>>>>
Under Personal Info look for NICKNAME<<<<
Change the NICKNAME from UNKNOWN to what you like. No one is going to Doxx you.
Guess you have to start in on me too. I know you and "Unknown' are working hand and glove. You are just so attracted to me and jealous of all I am and possess, how pathetic little guy, just a little wiener man.
But lets talk the audacity of the latest Frogmore Deal. How transparent that Meg wanted everything including her own Private Tennis court like W&K. She felt that they were so entitled to it all as a Royal family.So I guess the copper tubs and floating yoga floors are true hahahaha.
If this is a convoluted plot to welcome back Harry into the fold to ''lessen' the Cambridge work load, I think it is delusional. This guy deserted TRF, insulted TQ, trashed his brother and sister-in-law - what more proof of disloyalty does one need? I understand family bonds so let him slink back in but for heaven's sake keep him in the background.
As usual, yesterday I made on-topic comments and people left me alone UNTIL today the poster "Those That Do' and 'xxxx' have to invoke my name and write disparaging remarks trying to incite negativity toward me, especially the alleged new poster 'Those That Do', who has an axe to grind for 'Elle'.
As I have always maintained, 'Elle's minions are all about disruption and antagonistic behavior towards me. This 'Those That Do' proves it once again!
Whenever there is no news, all of a sudden on TP and other places, these dramatic juicy supposed things that are about to happen come out and whip everyone in a frenzy (remember when skippy was popping champagne because MM and Doria were arrested and in the tower lol) and then nothing happens. When something happens, it becomes clear there was nothing of the sort happening.
This supposed separation fits this rubric— down time, no news, nothing exciting going on so a big rumor comes out.
But as I always say, anything is possible with them and nothing they do makes sense, so I give it a 15% truthfulness percentage ( my own made up scale).
I do agree that, taken by itself, it's not very credible, and ANYBODY could say ANYTHING.
(Also--if it IS true, what exactly is the two-year thing? I would still be so ashamed after all those expenditures and that circus of a wedding to be ending it. So if two years is the time she thinks she has to stick around in order to look respectable . . . think again!)
Yes agreed, that some just leave their senses and either make up stuff or fall hook line and sinker for wild theories with no basis of facts or even solid indirect evidence. Then a false story line is embellished as the tale is retold and people add their own ideas to twist the narrative as they see fit. It is almost an insidious contest as to who can out-spin another.
I understand why some people have 'creative' possibilities to explain things but to promote it as the absolute truth is a whole different matter.
Copper tub: I have never understood the attraction but maybe they are the greatest!
Floating yoga floors: The bit about floating floors is true; that they were installed for a yoga studio is not necessarily so. The building is old and listed. To restore the wooden floors according to guidelines would have taken time and cost a lot of money. A quick and cheaper way around this problem was to install floating floors (put a floor on top of the old one but it is floating because it is not fixed, so it preserves the floor beneath). So a floating floor was not some kind of luxury (nor even installed for yoga) but a way to save money and get the job done faster!
By the way everyone, the story about the PR company has been around for a couple of years at least. It is not true but an elaborate hoax made up by someone. It does the rounds and changes it's context but it has lost all connection to whatever grains of truth were in the original story.
In my opinion, the chances of separation and divorce are very high, but let's have a look at her history:
She does not kick a partner out of a shared home nor leave a partner without a home of her own to go to. With Trevor, she had already relocated to Toronto and set herself up there when she dumped him. With Corey, they never shared a home. He posted pics of being in her home, in her bedroom, in her bed; she never posted any pics from inside his home. (I think Corey was always transactional for her because it was through him that she got access to Soho House and society in Toronto.)
She is not known for face-to-face confrontation. I think Corey was very nice about being dumped, but she would have done it in a way that avoided confrontation (and it was just after a lovely trip away to New Mexico so I really would love to know how she pulled it off!).
She cannot leave Harry without a home of her own to go to. I think couch surfing will be too precarious for her in the long run so she needs to set herself up in a home that is in her own name ... that she can use as her base, that is hers and not theirs. And she needs to dump Harry without that face-to-face confrontation (but maybe I am wrong and she adopts 'acting' mode and uses a lot of word salad to do a break up). I am looking forward to seeing how she pulls it off!
I have the Killfile extension for Chrome. It gives you the option to "hush" comments by poster name on many formats, including Disqus. On other Blogger blogs, it works on the main page but not the commenting page, but on this blog, it doesn't work at all.
I never got the copper tubs either :). The floating floor as you say fixes things quick it was just so funny that those are the two stories she got so angry about, I would be more angry about tiara gate and making your soon to be SIL cry and also her child.
I would bet the farm the sources who are leaking this latest crap about Catherine are not ‘friends’ at all. I believe this is Markle calling the tabloid with this line of bullsh!t. No other explanation. Evil to the core Meghan Markle.
Thank you @Indy and @Casielena For the link to Exposing Scandals!!
>>>Copper tub: I have never understood the attraction but maybe they are the greatest!<<<
Cooper is known for its heat retention and undoubtedly the look of shiny copper is striking and usually they seem to be in most cases tall. I have a porcelain claw foot tub in my old farmhouse and its has characteristics of being tall and retaining a lot of heat since it is has such a large volume of water capacity, and I love it! I personally love to have a copper tub in my secondary bathrooms if I could afford it, lol.
This guy deserted TRF, insulted TQ, trashed his brother and sister-in-law - what more proof of disloyalty does one need? I understand family bonds so let him slink back in but for heaven's sake keep him in the background.
@Blythe Spirit: Harry’s disloyalty to the RF translates into not being trustworthy with any sort of sensitive information be it personal family information or wider subject matter that could be related to the UK, the Commonwealth or any other nations that could fall on his ears, even if by accident. When you become untrustworthy, it is something that in most cases, can’t be repaired.
If his marriage to Meghsn does end in divorce, there’s no guarantee Harry has the intelligence or wisdom to learn to avoid women like Meghan in the future. As Prince Charles is said to have observed in the months after the wedding when Meghan was becoming unmasked to reveal her true nature and motives that everyone but Harry could see, Charles called Harry “c*nt drunk.”
Harry will be welcomed back to the family, but only on a limited basis. He crossed a line and will always be tainted by his actions with Meghan. They probably can’t trust him ever again.
I am of the opinion that lots of the drama and resentment in that family comes down to who gets to live where, and the quality and condition of the property. It is enormously expensive to heat and maintain historic homes, so it would have been sensible for H&M to request Frog Cott, at the beginning of its renovation planning and (I think) not subject to as many covenants and restrictions, to make upgrades they weren’t going to get to make on other properties. I’m sure Meghan would have preferred a sleeker property in London, but that doesn’t seem to have been in the cards. (I don’t think they were ever going to get Apt 1 in KP, I think those are going to be given to the Cambridges. 1 and 1A were all one residence until relatively recently.)
Anyway, after all the noise and fuss about Frogmore, they had no problem trying to walk away from the expense of those renovations, but that’s going to be a theme for both of them for many years, where they assume that something once given is theirs to do as they like. Frogmore is a grace and favour residence, and it must have been quite a shock to them both, to be told they were going to be responsible for those additional costs.
To follow that same theme, if Harry is floating the idea that he can come back for the summer...what on earth makes him think that’s a good idea? Is his head wedged so firmly up his arse that he imagines people (and I mean his family and friends) want him on THEIR couches while they’re all trying to work or spend time with their families? He can’t represent the BRF, so what is he going to do all day?
Somebody suggested that Lady Colin's book has the tacit approval of the BRF, and I can see that - they must be sick and tired of MM's mouthpieces telling the world how racist and toxic they are, and how they conspired to make life miserable for poor little Megsy. I for one cannot wait to get my hands of the book and I am trying to find out where I can buy it in Canada.
I don't know how JH can ever go back. Anything MM does or has done, he will always be tainted by it (and by his actions during the last few years) and I can't see how they could ever bear to be in the same room as him again. He isn't deserving of a second of their time. These hit pieces are personal, and things like this are not forgotten. The best he can hope for is they banish him permanently to that farm in the west, never to be seen or heard from again. He is untrustworthy, credibility is shot to heck, and he is seemingly unable to function as an adult.
Take him back if they must, as he is family after all -- BUT no patronages, no speaking engagements and absolutely NO military ties. Make him go to ground like Prince Andrew.
And I doubt he's got many mates left, even the drinking buddies. Even they wise up in their mid-30s and settle down, or else go down in flames if they can't handle the habit.
REMINDER -- Don't feed the troll named Catseyes. Thank you!
May 26, 2020 at 6:54 PM
God Bless You, and May the Holy Spirit dwell in you!
I, for one, cannot wait until Trevor’s baby is born. So happy for that guy!
I agree that JH can’t just waltz back in to his old life. First off, he needs extensive rehab for his issues. Then he’ll have to keep his head down. I’d imagine he’ll spend much of his future life in Africa, ruing the day he ever set eyes on that bitch.
Wow. That will be interesting!
Don't we have a CeeBee that posts here? Maybe she'll give us more info.
I'm so sick off this fake media blitz. I can't figure out why do much on DM. They make a public announcement that they will "no longer engage" with them, yet there seem to be . ore stories about the there, not less.
Maybe Sunshine Sachs didn't take the same vow!😁
Thanks @Sandie for the great posts
Welcome @Madge and @Thosethatdo and all the others who have been quietly lurking. Please come out and play!
@constantgardner33 I would think if the monarchy tried such a lame excuse, there would be overwhelming demands to end the monarchy. Just speculating on speculation lol
I think that’s the biggest challenge for the BRF, especially with a divorce. How do they explain ‘Archie’?
Or things he's allowed his wife to say, with no push back? He doesn't even stand up for his family in the media. Listen to his conversation with Greta, that's the real him, imo. He certainly hasn't put out a letter about 'leave my family alone' the way he did with mm in Toronto. That says everything.
If it was me, I would never want to see him again. The only way he could come back is with complete humility, many heartfelt apologies, repentance, making many amends.
Things that would take years, if not decades. Things that would need to be public and private.
All that damage was done in public; the amends and apologies need to be public, too.
And I'd never trust him again, ever. It's too big of a betrayal to ever trust him again. He not only burned bridges, he torched them and burned down the castle besides, and then set the forest on fire.
Re: Catherine being exhausted and furious. I don't think so. Just another attempt to smear her, imo.
In the latest zooms she looks nothing like the tense, angry Catherine we saw at the Commonwealth Service. (These days she looks like a huge burden has been lifted from her shoulders, she looks joyful.)
That day she was clearly angry about something with the dastardly duo. I think there was also a sense of betrayal showing. She was done with them. Over and out.
Whatever happened, she was through trying. She'd offered H a sense of family which he'd not had, shared her own family with him, offered him her genuine and authentic self....and he betrayed her. She was done.
I suspect that she's the kind of person who gives you many chances, but once she's had enough...you're off the list, never to be back on it.
I think that she highly values loyalty and once you've shown that you've betrayed her loyalty to you, you're done.
Who knows what happened, but I think the duo did one last thing that caused Catherine to see them for who they really are. And she was done.
“If you are wondering why I am so mad about it is this is a private DM between me and my follower that I posted on my not an expert from the book like they quoted in their tweets/retweets. Whatever!!”
From the source. There is no quote about any tea pot throwing/payout from Lady C’s book (so far)
A quarter of a million U S. dollars is a big chunk of change. If a dollar amount appears in Lady C's book about the tea-throwing incident, then she obviously has at least one inside source. It does also suggest BP had a hand in helping Lady C because it would be a typical NDA violation.
There's something about the Tatler article that doesn't make sense: It's such a pro-royal magazine, why would they publish something that looks like an MM attack on the DOC? Doesn't BP just have to pick up the phone to get something removed from it?
The other curious thing about it is that the American phrase "throw under the bus" is misused in the article. The article, if from MM sources, is MM throwing the DOC under the bus by bad-mouthing her, not her children. An American would say something like "taking the DOC away from her children" or "showing no concern" for her children by essentially requiring her to go back to work full-time. Maybe another American on the board can explain it better, but an American source wouldn't have phrased it that way.
What.meghan.wants
“I posted my private chat with my follower on my feed to share with my other followers. They saw it and thought it was book excerpts from Lady C book and took a screen shot and tweet/retweet it without knowing what it is and didn’t give credit. Claiming there is more to come!”
So someone is just making shit up again because it’s a low information/low activity time.
She thinks she will finally "get to speak the unfettered truth" and once people read it, they will "finally understand her"
What she forgets is every time she tells "her side" it bombs terribly. I give the SA documentary as proof of that. Also her "friends stories". Like the famous letter and all of the leaks that have been coming out. People see right through it.
Her side has been told since the beginning. She simply can't see that the way she thinks and acts is 1. Not normal 2. Incredibly selfish 3. Hypocritical or 4. A total lie.
And she cannot see that everything that has happened is her own fault and of her own making. She always blames others: it's a conspiracy, it's racism, it's the media, it's that cold BRF. Never once has she said it was her mistake.
Until she recognizes that, she will fail.
Making stuff up and claiming it’s true isn’t right either. Twitter people need to calm down and wait for the book. Making up stuff just causes trouble. Now a lot of people are unfollowing murky meg because she was part of this problem.
I think publishing the book was part of her initial plan and Scobie has confirmed that they started working on it long ago. Two years ago, if I remember correctly. She can’t ever admit that she’s wrong, so here we are. (Or rather, here she is.) Wish they’d publish the book sooner so that she would have her titles stripped.
What did Murky Meg say that has caused people to unfollow her twitter/blog? I can't recall anything she's done that would cause people to do so, so I just wondered if you could point me to where that happened? TIA.
Yes, yes, and yes. Cannot wait for,that day.
On which I’ve posted; the other Reality tv kids, a blog devoted to the horrible Kate Gosselin. It was on this blog that I first came upon the phrase, “throw under the bus”, something Kate always did (does) to her ex husband Jon.
Apparently, accordion to WMW, this is not the first time murky Meg stole her content without crediting her (but it wasn’t the content MM said it was anyway) and when WMW tried to contact her about it, MurkyMeg became indignant and blocked W.M.W. (Who posted all the screen shots and seems to be telling the truth imo).
So Murky Meg apparently took irrelevant content from someone and lied and said it was content from Lady C’s book and that it said there was a 250k payout do Meghan throwing a tea pot. It is not. That doesn’t exist.
And then it went on Twitter and you and blue bell restated it as fact (I’m not blaming either of you). People tweeted and retweeted the lie.
Anyway, sounds like a lot of drama and the insinuation was that Murky Meg wanted it to drive traffic to her site for payment purposes.
It’s all on what.meghan.wants 4 hours ago on IG.
I am posting for the very first time; however, I have been reading here for a very long time. I love this blog. I finally established an account which allows me to post so this is a TEST as to how i appear. Here goes
@free2gab: Your post looks great, dahling!
What drew me to that blog was me trying to understand the horrible mom's personality. Much like why I'm drawn to trying to understand the dastardly duo, mm in particular.
And why am I so drawn to that? I think it's personal experience. Trying always to understand what went wrong, how it went wrong, how can I do better or how can I fix it
I'v guess I've finally realized that there is no understanding. They're nuts and there is no healing in the cards.
Better to walk away.
With the one I can't escape, doing my best to be a grey rock.
I cannot imagine how Kate must feel, trying to go about her day, act normal, tuck her children in at night and finally get a quiet moment with her husband. There were never such negative stories about the RF before a certain someone. Her own family predicted she would act this way.
If that is so, here is the first one again, with minor amendments - the others may following. Here, I point out that trolls victimise people but make it look as if the victim is at fault. In the next post, I say what I think trolls are really up to, that is, getting nasty little thrills at someone else's expense. Finally, there's also a post about ad hominem arguments.
"... narcissists victimise people.
"They are also past masters at makings their victims look like the aggressor, rather like the hypothetical sign in a zoo:
" `This animal is dangerous - when attacked it defends itself'.
"If you are the victim, sticking up for yourself doesn't work - they've already manipulated the situation to put you in the wrong, so it looks as if you're equally to blame.
"There is said to be a useful, sure-fire, instant test for a narcissist - I can't remember which site was on but it matched my experience:
"If somebody is being mean to you, ask them to stop and watch what happens.
"A reasonable person will offer some sort of apology.
"A narcissist will explode with self-righteous indignation, self-justification and a torrent of abuse, tearing apart your character apart, telling you what a low-down horrible person you are. In short, they go apeshit.
"They are not reasonable people. They have no self-awareness - their narcissism blinds them to their behaviour. Apology? forget it. A narcissist would die rather than do or say anything that could imply that they accept they may overstepped the mark.
"Unfortunately, narcissists can't seem to stop their provocative behaviour.
"One then has choice, continue the row or step back.
"If opting for no further confrontation, one has the choice of applying Grey Rock or going No Contact -difficult in this situation if one wishes to continue posting. Would Grey Rock work?
"For example :https://www.healthline.com/health/grey-rock
"I doubt if any narcissists reading this will recognise themselves. I shall just laugh at anyone who reacts violently this post."
First posted 24th May at 11.17
This one struck a chord --
"There is said to be a useful, sure-fire, instant test for a narcissist - I can't remember which site was on but it matched my experience:
"If somebody is being mean to you, ask them to stop and watch what happens.
"A reasonable person will offer some sort of apology.
"A narcissist will explode with self-righteous indignation, self-justification and a torrent of abuse, tearing apart your character apart, telling you what a low-down horrible person you are. In short, they go apeshit.
Ain't that the truth.
When there's someone you love who's gone to the dogs of (more-or-less) their own volition, there may not be much one can do, unless they are prepared to change - it has to come from them, no matter how painful for you.
In the life of a little person like me, you just have to swallow any sense of guilt and accept it, let them go and hope you don't lose the friends who are critical of you for cutting them adrift.
HM and PC aren't in that position - they are under constant scrutiny and would go down in history as ruthless, hard-hearted and downright cruel. These days, everyone has to be seen as `Caring' - which is in conflict with our demand for the Harkles to be starved of funds.
Heads Meghan wins, tails RF loses.
I'd tolerate H coming back as long as he disappeared from sight, ideally becoming a reformed character. As far as that `wife' is concerned, she can sling her hook.
Separation? Divorce? I wouldn't put my hopes up as I suspect this is a ploy from MM to get more attention.
Will they or won't they? This could go on for a bit. Eventually they will divorce, I think that was always on the cards. They still have 9 -10 months of their provisional year don't they? Maybe if the Scooby book really brings up some dirt then the Queen may ask for a separation but even then I doubt it.
Amid all this media blitz Charles keeps footing the bill. How many more millions this year? This really is the perfect storm.
I voted to keep the format as-is as well. I love this blog site. I believe this is THE best blog on Harry and Meghan out there. The content is excellent. Harry Markle blog is excellent as well, but the advantage here are the commenters. Many of the comments on here are clearly conjecture and theory but most of the content is excellent. Posters are very knowledgeable here. I have felt bad for Nutty many times having to moderate these strange arguments that erupt. I just scroll by and ignore them as I have no idea what the back stories are being a newer poster and I have no interest in offending people online.
Since I am new poster and since some of the arguments seem so weird and random, it could be that there is some interest in disrupting this blog. I normally do not believe in anything that is extreme and that doesn't feel right, however posters can be deep in the middle of a great conversation thread only to be interrupted by a strange argument. So whatever is easy for Nutty the moderator. I do think it would be good to not allow any 'unknown' named posters. Everyone should be named. Just my two cents. Thanks to all for this excellent site.
The good news is that it appears the English are already wise to this. In American, not so sure. I was at the store this weekend, waiting in a long covid spaced line to check out and I grabbed a tabloid mag that had Meghan on the cover, to flip through to pass time. The lady behind me said, when I put the mag back on the rack, "Oh I can't stand that lady. She's out to destroy the Queen's family". So... maybe Americans are getting it too!
For all intents and purposes the Sussex 's have been gone since what, November? But I don't think HM has asked anyone to pick up their workload. Anne was set to be the new Marine General, but that was an honor, I believe, and moot since the post won't be filled until the end of the year.
Actually the Harkles have been busy bothering their patronage from their hideaways. More than I like. If they are done, they are done. They are continuing to try to set up that head-on half-hour scenario threAten denied them. I think they are so freaking stubborn and unused to hearing the word "no" they feel like HM will cave if they just keep "proving it can work". Which is why they wanted to keep their patronages to begin with. They amply demonstrated they have no real interest in Royal life except for the grand events and The Royal association to mwrch.
The BRF needs to lose them now. Forget the year. Pull the titles. Omids book is probably enough reason. If the Royals let them walk without NDAs in place, they deserve what's coming.
Re: Murky Meg. I think I read here that the bloggers get paid by the comments in their videos from sponsors or whatever. That's why they will consistently ask whether you agree to points, or otherwise solicit comments.
Honestly, I heard some of the comments from this blog on youtube, so I'm pretty sure the vloggers come here for commentary.
They would be fools if they didn't. ☺
Half -in, Half-out not Heads on half hour. I corrected that twice!
And
Patronages not patronage