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Meghan and Black Lives Matter

The Duchess of Sussex has commented on the recent Black Lives Matter protests in a videotaped graduation speech to the high school she once attended.

This link includes the video and the transcript of her address.

What do you think of Meghan speaking out to support BLM?

Comments

HappyDays said…
@ Hikari said...

Hikari said...
Well it appears that Meg’s alma mater is Completely unappreciative of her luminary efforts at commencement speaking and political activism recruitment for their young ladies… I’m fresh from the school website and Facebook page, and megs address appears nowhere. No. Where. As we suspected, this was yet another PR stunt by Smeg which was not requested by the school. It must burn Meg’s nads To be no more wanted as a royal Duchess in Hollywood than she was as an unemployed actress there.

https://www.immaculateheart.org/

Meg’s antics continue to fascinate me as one of the most aberrant psychologies I have ever encountered. For such a profoundly damaged and damaging person, she’s made it far, but the fact is the wannabe called Lemon is poised to be one of the greatest cult failures of our time. I bet Her Smugness never dreamed she’d end up here during that smug ride to the church in Wally’s hearse limo. That fly knew BS when he smelled it.

@Hikari:
Excellent comment, Hikari. The analysis in your comments is always spot on. Meghan is likely profoundly affected by narcissistic personality disorder. Things will not end well. It will be messy at its minimum and terribly tragic at its maximum.
jessica said…
So Oprah’s special will be June 9th and 10th broadcast on OWN, AS WELL as Discovery Corp (owns parent company) ‘s 19 !!! Other networks.

Basically Oprah’s special with BLM thought leaders, is going to be all over every TV.

Meghan might as well throw in the royal towel and jump on board. She won’t ever get that kind of opportunity for exposure again. And zero chance they have the time to organize her Q/A and make it scripted. Events rarely work that way, and a town hall even less so.
Hikari said…
Happy Days,

I was not surprised that Archie was fair. Meg’s complexion is very light and Harry practically glows in the dark. Skin tone aside, Meg did have more pronounced African features prior to the plastic surgeries. I am most perplexed by the baby’s hair. Despite repeated attempts to convince us that this child has “tufts of red hair” on his head, I see a fine blond peach fuzz. If you recall Harry’s hair texture until he hit puberty, it used to be pretty fine and straight and more of a copper penny color. This is how he looked at nearly 13 walking behind Diana‘s cortΓ¨ge. It seems like only a year or two later H. appeared seeming to have sprouted a head of wiry, curly darker red hair. The change was so sudden, and not just that his hair darkened as many kids do as they age, but it had an entirely different texture. Mini biracial children have light hair, But with two parents possessing nappy textured hair, I would expect to see courser curlier hair on Archie. I suppose there’s still time for that to grow in. Megs natural hair is extremely bushy and curly, and I would consider that a very dominant gene. The baby appears to have Meg’s brown eyes and the strabismus, which can be hereditary. If they tried to pick a baby out to spec, it would have been impossible, not to mention undesirable from M’s view to order a stand-in baby with a turned in eye. Possible, but not in the ballpark of probability. There is no hint at all of even 18% African features on Archie, which is rather unusual.
Hikari said…
I was trying to track the progression of Hazza’s hair, and found this compendium of photos of him from every year of his life. Two facts: 1. Harry’s looks vegan to decline as soon as he turned 30. Precipitately. He grew the beard sometime between 30 and 31 and it does not improve his face. 2. Apart from the pictures at funerals, Harry appears jovial and focused in his royal duties. There is no hint at all of interior misery and the hair shirt of Not OK that he’s been wearing since he took up with Meg. It’s true that many high functioning depressives Mask their pain so well And our skilled at appearing happy and carefree when they aren’t, that their depression comes as a big shock to her friends and family. This could describe Harry, but the flowering and visible anger and slackness did not surface until Meg entered the picture. What a stunning change in three short years.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/photos-of-prince-harry-remarkable-life-engaged-to-meghan-markle-2017-11%3famp
Hikari said…
“Began” not Vegan!! Maybe the two are connected though. Has has never looked more miserable and unhealthy then when he began his healthy lifestyle journey with his new bride.
Hikari said…
Glowering not flowering!! Stupid phone. I typed it by hand too.
Hikari said…
Interesting confluence of articles today. The Meg machine is Working overtime.

https://apple.news/AjVAJ4--3SFeSCvCS0prTUA

This is the first time I have seen the headline “Meghan was accused of taking her pregnancy” Outside of a blog site. This article is from the Business times, which despite the title is a tabloid. Still, this is the first time I can recall the accusation of being overly printed in a headline. The rest of the article Amounts to a rebuttal.

https://apple.news/AjVAJ4--3SFeSCvCS0prTUA

BT Is always pro Megan, but in the same issue they present this article, which Meg will not like it all. It compares princess Eugenie to Diana. Nope, Meggy won’t like that at all.

https://apple.news/AtnEY5QXcRI2DPOZVGIwQqg
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Mango said…
@Unknown June 6, 2020 at 11:46 AM

Please don’t delete the post. I find it utterly believable. If you thought readers here seemed disinterested, I think it’s just that this is yet another unpleasant episode of our favorite show, “Oh, that Meghan!” She’s tireless. She’s indefatigable. She just keeps coming at us and she never disappoints. I just can’t believe it’s gone on as long as it has.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Unknown

I’m pondering over Megs article in Elle magazine when she said, as a baby/child,
Doria was mistaken for her nanny.
Why?
Earlier photos show that she is biracial, why would anyone presume Doria was not her mother?
@magatha

Doria as `nanny' - perhaps it was yet another of her porky pies, making out that she, Megain, was pure, gleaming white.
Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar

Exactly!!
The camera never lies....
lizzie said…
@Magatha Mistie, good point.

MM was born in 1981, not 1941. I can't believe mixed-race couples were rare in CA in the 1980s. I'm from the southern US and they were not rare here (although frankly, the US South is not as uniformly backward compared to the rest of the country as detractors often claim. George Floyd was born here but he didn't die here.) And as a child MM's African-American heritage was clearly evident before her surgeries and hair changes.

I can't find the Elle article but here's a Yahoo recap.

"When opening up about her biracial parents in Elle UK, Meghan confessed that passersby would confuse her mother with her nanny. “[My parents] moved into a house in the Valley in L.A., to a neighborhood that was leafy and affordable,” the former actress shared. “What it was not, however, was diverse. And there was my mom, caramel in complexion with her light-skinned baby in tow, being asked where my mother was since they assumed she was the nanny.” (Doria is African-American and Meghan’s father is Caucasian.)"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/doria-ragland-7-things-know-154128344.html

Note the quote seems to be about incidents that occurred when Doria and Thomas lived together. That ended when MM was 2. So IF those nanny incidents happened, M would not remember unless somebody (Doria?) told her. She would also not remember teenage Samantha referring to Doria as the maid when they all lived together. (No idea if SM did that. Teenagers have called their fathers' new wives far worse...and done worse than name call. Diana pushed her stepmother down a flight of stairs and Diana was 28 years old at the time!)
@Mango

“The video was supposed to convey gravity, dignity and great inner pain, but it left me with the questions, "Why was this filmed through a gym sock?" and, "What poor horse is walking around without a tail so she could have that hank of hair dangling over her shoulder?"

Thanks for the laugh!! :)
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Magatha Mistie said…
@lizzie

Thanks, looks like more “porky pies” from Ms Whyte.
Would be good to hear from Doria regarding this,
and how Megs battled the “92” riots?


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Magatha Mistie said…
Oprah condoning Megs, & her behaviour, proves to me that she’s no better.
Fairy Crocodile said…
It is easy to find Markle's childhood pictures. I don't see why anybody seeing this child with Doria question Doria's parentage.

Markle is a pathological liar.

And as a side comment. In my view she looked a lot better as her natural self. Certainly her hair did, as well as her skin and nose. There was more harmony and authenticity in her looks.

Now she is destined to spend huge money in clinics just to maintain all changes she did and fight side effects of her multiple treatments and surgeries.

Oh be destined to hide behind a layer of vaseline on the camera lenses.
Magatha Mistie said…
When once, on seeing HM we may have said “pleased to meet you”
We may now be saying “ why did you let her in?”
PrettyPaws said…
I am wondering whether these Oprah interviews are so attractive to MM because they take place before Lady C's book hits the shelves.
Genetics of curly hair?

I've dug deeper on this -it's more complicated than it might seem.

What goes for one racial group doesn't necessarily go for another group. In European populations, it seems simple, explicable as a single pair of genes being in control, inherited in a straightforward Mendelian way.

That is, if both parents have curly hair, and each carries a recessive gene for straight hair, the probability is that a child is three times more likely to have curly hair than straight. On that basis, assuming both M & H have the `European' type, for want of a better term, A was more likely than not to have curly hair.

This may, however, is subject to qualification::

`The gene for curly hair in Caucasians
`It has been long established that curly hair is a dominant trait in Caucasians and straight hair is recessive. This means two things: 1) if a person carries one allele for curly hair and another for straight hair, this person will have curly hair; 2) curly hair is a simple trait and is most likely determined by one single gene. However, a single gene has yet to be found to be solely responsible for the curl'

-from https://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Trait-Hair-Curl


Which means that we don't know for certain whether or not that there are 2 variants of one gene involved or whether other genes can affect how the `main' genes are expressed.

It’s more complicated when African ancestry is involved:
`These data suggest that Black African hair curl variation is “complex” in that many genes are involved each having a modest effect on hair curl.'
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/exd.13347

I imagine it's still rather more likely that A would be curly haired, if only because most mixed race (Caribbean or African/white) children I've seen have curly hair.

The young Harry had straight hair. My no.1 husband swore he had straight hair until he was more or less adult - and that it changed abruptly after he'd been caught out the snow! Of course, it may have naturally been curly all along but had been combed straight until he had to let it dry naturally!

Skin colour is controlled by a large number of genes, it all depends on the overall number of genes for melanin production that are inherited from the parents.

White parents, with unknown black ancestry, can produce an African-looking child, with or without dark skin. I’ve shown a group photo from a family wedding (100+ people) to friends and asked them to find the person `who looks African’. Without fail, they’ve picked out my cousin who was convinced she’d been swapped at birth and brought up in the `wrong’ family.
Today, she would be taken as mixed-race, for all that her skin was as pink as mine.

Conversely, black parents can have a white child (I don’t mean albino).

Such `anomalies’ caused families real difficulties in apartheid S.Africa, when children could be classified as racially different form their parents; I’m sure it contributed to my cousin’s psychological problems in Surrey, although I doubt if anyone saw the real cause of her anguish. I’ve only realised it since her death last year.

To summarise, I’ve no idea who `Archie’s’ parents are. On the slender evidence we have, he might be the H$M’s biological child – or someone else’s. There’s nothing conclusive about the child we’ve been shown. The test may come as he grows up, if we are still shown him.

He could be their child, or her child with A,N.Other, born earlier than stated of a surrogate. Or he might be a hired child, the nearest match to what they could get – and Megsy overlooked the question of size. Or there may be a genuine Archie elsewhere, or no genuine M-W child at all.

I wouldn’t lay any bets on this.
Magatha Mistie said…
@PrettyPaws

Anything to do with Oprah!!
That’s her entre
Ballubas said…
@Jessica said So Oprah’s special will be June 9th and 10th, Prince Philip birthday is 10 June
Sandie said…
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/can-sophie-countess-of-wessex-steady-the-royal-ship-qngnxsdcg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8396073/Sophie-Wessexs-children-not-official-royal-roles-likely-work-living.html

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-4155#post-58741867

Sophie Wessex says her kids have HRH title but they won't use it and they are very likely not to be working royals. She also says like Meghan, the royal family helps all newcomers and that she hopes they will be happy. Her last statement is loaded. She is talking in future tense when she says 'hope they will be happy'. It that seems to imply that at present, they are not happy.

The Countess of Wessex says her children will not take on official royal roles or use their HRH titles when they come of age, and is raising them "with the understanding that they are very likely have to work for a living" @thesundaytimes

In an interview with @christinalamb @TheSTMagazine Sophie spoke of her frustrations on giving up her career following marriage into the royal family: "It took me a while to find my feet. I had to reduce my expectations...I had to take a big step back.”

Sophie also described herself as a "feminist" who believes in "equality for all". On the Duchess of Sussex, she said "We all try and help any new member of the family" and of the Sussexes' departure from royal life and move to America: "I just hope they will be happy."
Sandie said…
IMO the 'news' filtering out there about a drone flying so close that a security guy could almost swat it is fake news.

1. If tabloids/paparazzi were filming with drones, where are the photos? The only we have seen was of Harry playing with a dog by the pool (the narrative that emerged a while later that Meghan, Archie and Harry were by the pool is false IMO, and is intended to give a sense of family and to imply that Meghan and Archie are in danger).

2. If drones operated by some mysterious person or group that is trying to get information in order to do harm to one or all of the Harkles (kidnap seems the most likely but murder by a looney may also be on the list), then it would not be made public. (Don't let them know that we are onto them so that we keep the element of surprise as a weapon of defence. Maybe I am wrong, but it is what makes sense to me.)

Thus, it could be possible that the drone that filmed Harry was operated by the Sussexes and was then published to feed the narrative that they are not safe and need Papa/Granny/British Taxpayer to pay for security.
Seabee666 said…
@lucy

The reason the cop kept his knee on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes should be clear to all. He is pure evil, a true devil who believed he could murder a man for pleasure in broad daylight while being filmed by horrified people - and Satan would somehow get him out of it. Period end of story. And with that, he threw a match onto an already incendiary situation.
Indy said…
@Magatha Mistie , I agree it appears Oprah condones Meghan's behavior. I think it's because they are quite alike in that Oprah is all about herself and how she can climb higher all the time. She certainly was successful but they both have that need but Meghan won't make it like Oprah did . They both focus on what's best for themselves all the time. Oprah's star has started to fall recently and she needs to clean up her act after Weinstein and Geffin drama which funny enough appeared to condone them also. She will be very careful and it remains to be seen if she will have Meghan at her town hall as a surprise guest . I also wonder exactly how much Oprah knows as far as the things Meghan's done to look white and call herself Caucasian on CVs etc. Do any Nutties here remember the Dina Shore story of her having a black baby ? Her husband , George Montgomery , divorced her soon after she had the baby. She must've had a black ancestor in the past. She had very dark hair when young and went blond but NOT because she knew she had some black genes. The story us not 100% confirmed but if you look it up about 80% say it's true. And supposedly GM was a racist and dumped her . It's one of those urban legends and many still can't say for sure .
We're in for more George Floyd riots today - Renta mob and extremists out in force.

Lisa Nandy, Labour Shadow Foreign Secretary who is on record as saying she'd like to see Meghan as Queen, was encouraging people to turn out for another day of chaos, as long as they maintain strict social distancing.

Heaven help us if MM even comes back.
Jdubya said…
Jessica - not sure what you mean by

So Oprah’s special will be June 9th and 10th broadcast on OWN, AS WELL as Discovery Corp (owns parent company) ‘s 19 !!! Other networks.

Basically Oprah’s special with BLM thought leaders, is going to be all over every TV.

---------------
OWN is a pay cable station. It is not available unless you have cable or satellite. Or you pay separately for the station. I have DISH & might have access to the station but i've never bothered to look for it. I think her special will NOT be watched by many just as her magazine is NOT read by many. Her TV station is basically on life support & thought of as a tax write-off for most.

Oprah Winfrey Network
Dish Network Channel 189 (HD) Channel 9433 (HD)
DirecTV Channel 279 (HD) Channel 1279 (VOD)
Cable
Indy said…
JDUBYA, correct. Her OWN station is going down the tubes and she's been able to keep it afloat with her money. Maybe waiting for something to hit big. I have it and it comes with just basic cable. It's not one of those that you have to buy extra . That's the only thing that's saving her. She keeps hoping for something, anything.
Aquagirl said…
Oprah is irrelevant. I don’t know anyone who watches her channel or reads her magazine. Quite frankly, she is a criminal who belongs in jail. Her downfall cannot come soon enough.
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brown-eyed said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
Genetics of curly hair?
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Hair sometimes changes at puberty—texture from fine to course and straight to wavy or curly. My kids’ hair became wavy and no longer fine (but has lots of body). Also, ditto for their friends. My hair was always wavy. It just varies so much. I’m beginning to think simple Mendelian isn’t so simple. (Don’t even get me started on eye color; it can be extremely complicated.)

I would expect Archie’s Hair to change at puberty as apparently Harry’s did. Archie has so little hair, I think we’ll have to wait awhile before the color is obvious.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/865803157/george-floyd-and-derek-chauvin-were-co-workers-says-former-club-owner
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Aquagirl

Whatever rubbish Markle will be speaking at Oprah's show I bet the only question never asked will be "Why did you lighten your skin, straightened your hair and done your nose".

And yet this is the question any person with a brain is asking now when Markle suddenly became proud and talkative about her heritage.

You are either proud of your heritage or you are not. It doesn't work both ways. She may try to bleat about racism in Hollywood, but I always think of Whoopi Goldberg, who is very far from a celluloid beauty and yet she is a great actress. She was superb in the "Ghost" and "Sister act".
Jules Bergman said…
@swampwoman I can tell you that the Northern California county I worked in banned any type of carotid hold (knee or arm) in the early 1990's. They figured (rightly so) this action was dangerous and unsafe. And anybody who has ever worn a badge & had to search a person knows that as soon as the cuffs are on, you put the person in recovery position or on their butt. You cannot search a prone person.

Ok, that said, like many of you I couldn't get past a minute of that 'graduation' video. It was awful and had very little to do with the usual 'charge to the graduates' or even a celebration of accomplishment. It was Me-again.

Honest question here - why hasn't MM or JCMH realized that ANYTHING they try right now is going to look awful? Just stay home and shut up for a hot minute. Let the proverbial dust settle. I mean, they have to be reading people's reactions to every single thing they have tried and without fail, it's been harsh criticism.

Do they not see it? Or do you think they don't want to see it.
Margery said…
@Sandie,
Thanks for the summary of the articles re the Countess of Wessex. I really admire her for her dilligenc and work ethic and for her level-headed approach to raising her children. I have no doubt, as she said, that the family tried to help Markle. The operative word being "try." But how can one help a person who considers herself the smartest person in the room?
Aquagirl said…
@Fairy: You are correct. She will not be asked those, or any other hard-hitting questions. As far as racism in Hollywood, I don’t see her getting too far with that. After all, wasn’t she the ‘star’ of Suits (where she was paid millions of dollars) LOL. She still hasn’t realized that she can’t have it both ways. In claiming to be such a well-paid ‘star’, she has basically negated any possibility of claiming racism in Hollywood.
Fairy Crocodile said…
The Queen appears to have made another mistake. She interfered to allow Andrew enjoy his tax funded protection, although Andrew is not a working royal any more.

This opens two huge cans of worms. People paying for hugely unpopular Andrew who is removed from the royal duties and unpopular Harry having an excuse to demand tax funded protection to continue.

I can't help but arrive to the conclusion the Queen is not in touch any more.

I have a feeling Monarchy begins to crumble and if nothing is done pronto Wills will have nothing to preserve for George.
Aquagirl said…
@Lt. Nyota: I read about them being co-workers at the club early on, and wondered (and still do) if there was some bad blood between them. Nutty commented on this point somewhere at the beginning of this thread. You may have missed it, but it’s worth a read.
Teasmade said…
@Fairy, I do wonder about this too. Not sure if it's a recent development (as in "in touch any more") or a lifelong trend. A is reportedly her favorite child, and H her favorite grandchild. In the US, we'd say "batting .000"
Aquagirl said…
@Fairy: Andrew’s chalet is now on the market (after HM bailed him out.) What will happen to the money from the sale? Will he pay her back? I agree that Andrew’s security should not be paid for and neither should Harry’s. Sadly, these decisions make HM seem out of touch and as though she’s choosing family over duty. So sad after her long reign. Someone needs to step up.
In Bristol, The statue of Edward Colston has been toppled by BLM and has ended up in harbour/river.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

It looks like mob rule - King Demos holds sway, to use the 18th/19th century term.
Have they no common sense - don't they know there's an epidemic on?

I can't see the Welcome mat being rolled out for MM anytime soon - I hope this puts the tin lid on any chance she might have of coming here again. Her presence would certainly not be conducive to the well-being of the country, imo.

This could so easily turn into another 2011- God help us.

Previously, I mentioned extremists - just so you know who I mean, banners have been displayed with Socialist Workers Party slogans & logo - a clenched fist, in red or black. They are closest to, or actually are, Trotskyists, I believe, not wanting gradual democratic change but violent revolution.

From 1968-70 (covering the time of the student uprising in Paris), I had to try and get a class of 14-16 year-olds through O-level biology. Almost all, apart from a few who wanted to pass the exam and those who were terminally lazy, were communists of all persuasions, the progeny of revolutionary parents. I had marxists, leninists, trotskyists and Maoists, plus anarchists, all determined to start the revolution in my lab, three times a week.

The only quiet lesson I remember was the day after the Grosvenor Square Riot, an anti-Vietnam-war demonstration outside the old American Embassy, Sun. 17th March 1968. The troublemakers were either absent, licking their wounds, or too exhausted to disrupt the lesson for those who wanted to learn. Vanessa Redgrave, stalwart of the SWP, was prominent in Grosvenor Sq. that day.

I think most of them scraped through the exam - they were bright, after all. The lad who most wanted to be a doctor did very well, went on to medical school, qualified as a psychiatrist and ended up practising in California. He must be near retirement now, I'd love to know what he makes of MM!

@brown-eyed - Precisely. We shall have to wait to see what happens.
Sandie said…
Perhaps the context with Andrew that everyone is missing is that he was a working royal for all of his life and is now 60 years' old. No one has made a fuss about the Duke of Edinburgh keeping his taxpayer-funded security when he stopped working at the age of 90 or thereabouts.

Yes, Andrew was required to step down clouded in scandal and unanswered questions. However, there needs to be some kind of fair and rational standards applied. Perhaps that is what the Queen is trying to do. His needs are less because he has now been forced into retirement as a working royal (although perhaps like the Duchess of Kent he will continue private charity work). He should also be entitled to less as he retired at a very early age for a royal (other royals have stepped back for a while but I think Prince Phillip was the first to retire). However, it seems a bit mean and spiteful to condemn him and deny him any kind of retirement benefits. The same people who are making those demands would protest strongly if the same standards and principles were applied to them (and there is always someone less well off than you).

Meghan was a 'working royal' for an instant (she arrived with much fuss, made some appearances, acquired some patronages, spent a lot of money, went on maternity leave after just over a year of all of the former, and then left). She is not entitled to taxpayer-funded anything, and has already been given more than her share of a one-off payout (security was extended for about 6 months as was a whole lot of other perks for which the taxpayer paid).

For Harry, retiring from being a working royal (albeit being forced to as his part-time but full pay proposal was rejected, even though he offered to forego his share of the Sovereign Grant once he had achieved financial independence, whenever that wold be and however that would be determined) happened at a very young age of mid-30s. It is unreasonable for him to have expected to have full-on taxpayer funded security for him and Meghan and Archie and shows just how out of touch he is with the real world.

If Harry's position alone (sixth in line of succession), and that of Archie (seventh in line of succession) and that of Meghan (as wife and mother for royals in the line of succession) warrants that they should have full-time fully taxpayer-funded security, then there are a lot of other royals that are going to join the queue. Meghan's claim that they have special status as international whatever is nonsense and that was summarily dismissed. That Harry and his family are vulnerable because he served in Afghanistan is rather strange. Prince Andrew also served in a war and I am sure we can dig up the names of other royals and non-royals who might be a target for terrorists because they are royal or high profile people (I immediately think of war correspondents). If there isn't a clear and fair policy, then it is time to create one.

Bad move on HMTQ's part. If Andrew's security is paid for after being "de-royalled" then so should Harry's. Plus Harry has no connections to Paedo-Epstein. The problem is that Charles would likely be even more likely to support Harry's demands. Yikes, what with the predicted OW performance and this, even I am thinking it is time the RF took a serious look at the role they play. Pandering to politically active family members, paying outrageous sums in security, and generally taking little action to put things right is hardly the stabilizing influence Britain and the Commonwealth expects from them.

For some reason the first line of Gray's Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard comes to mind:

"The curfew tolls the knell of parting day..."


It is all so very sad.
Indy said…
The biggest reason the Queen is giving Andrew protection is because he has gotten death threats. Not the fake H&M kind. The biggest threats are not from people who hate him for what he did,but the influential people who would off him if he was looking like he was going to cooperate with authorities and name names. I would rather he be kept alive for the chance hell squeal.
On Yahoo news now:

Meghan Markle & Prince Harry Hold Meetings About Black Lives Matter

Amy Mackelden
Harper's Bazaaryesterday

Photo credit: Karwai Tang - Getty Images
From Harper's BAZAAR

• Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have been meeting with organizations and individuals regarding the Black Lives Matter movement.

• BAZAAR.com's royal editor at large, Omid Scobie, revealed that the Sussexes want to "make sure that they are educated and connected to the issues of police brutality and the Black Lives Matter movement."

• Duchess Meghan recently spoke about George Floyd's death during a graduation address to her high school.

Earlier this week, Meghan Markle gave an impassioned graduation address to high school students, and discussed the Black Lives Matter movement. And according to BAZAAR.com's royal editor at large, Omid Scobie, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been doing even more work behind the scenes.

Per Scobie, a source revealed to BAZAAR, "This is something that is incredibly personal to Meghan, especially given everything she has experienced. And as a couple, it is, of course, very important. They are both feeling it, just like the rest of us."

As the royal editor reported, "Both Meghan and Harry have been quietly having meetings behind the scenes with people on all levels to make sure that they are educated and connected to the issues of police brutality and the Black Lives Matter movement."

Importantly, a source revealed, "Harry and Meghan have been having private conversations with community leaders and people at every level," to ensure that they understand current events. Per BAZAAR's source, "By speaking to as many people and organizations as possible, it has been a way for them to feel connected to everything that's going on and learn more about the issues surrounding it."

All so predictable!
SwampWoman said…
Jules Bergman said...
@swampwoman I can tell you that the Northern California county I worked in banned any type of carotid hold (knee or arm) in the early 1990's. They figured (rightly so) this action was dangerous and unsafe.


Thanks. It is not used here and lots of folks are saying "WTF" because it is apparently permitted in some places but their state, their rules. I will say that clubs were commonly used in takedown holds in the late 70s (because I learned how to do it).

As to the person that corrected me about what Meghan actually said (I incorrectly thought she talked about walking home), thanks to you as well! I, uh, couldn't listen to more than a few seconds. The spirit was willing, but the stomach was weak.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Wild Boar Battle Maid

I will be blunt. whoever stands behind this "protest" has zero interest in promoting unity. It is absolutely the contrary. They want to divide the country, cause more racial tensions and bring civil unrest. This is extremely dangerous.

The crowd attacked police and their horses using motorbikes, a woman police officer ended in the hospital in serious condition. Horse was seriously wounded too. All this without any provocation from police or law abiding citizens.

I don't care what color the person is, I care how the person behaves. After watching this anarchy in London and other cities I do not want to do anything with this "movement". During this outbreak it takes just one person with the virus for it to spread like a wildfire again in the crowds. And it will. You watch.

It is a fire lit up under a gunpowder keg. That is why Markle is so dangerous with her divisive agenda.
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HappyDays said…

Unknown said…
@Happy Days
I agree that MM is less than 50% black and that Doria is not 100% black. I don't really have any explanation for what I suspect other than Archie does not appear to have any African American ancestry at all - indeed he seems to be especially pale and what little hair he has is very fine.

@Unknown: For the sake of a starting point, let’s say that Doria is between 70 to 75% African ancestry. That would put Meghan at 35-37.5% African ancestry at the most. Archie would be somewhere in the range of 17.5 to 18.75% African ancestry. It could be more. It could be less. These are just ballpark percentages.
It will be broadcast on Discovery Communications's 19 other channels as well as OWN, HGTV being one of them. The press release is at Vanity Fair.com detailing the broadcast schedule.

Just read the DM article that she AND Harry are prepping their thoughts on BLM. Looks like it's going to happen!
Side note re: the article above,

Why does their media friend always paint them as extremely out of touch? It makes them come off as lunatics with a false air of importance. They should change the way he releases things on their behalf.
CatEyes said…
As a biologist I could write paragraphs, indeed, pages on the genetics of 'Incomplete dominanceof hair texture and the even more complicated issue of skin color but the bottom line is, no one here (indeed anywhere unless they have Archie's DNA and am qualified to be a geneticist to interpret it) can explain why Archie looks they way he does.

In addition, Archie still has baby hair which, often can change in the next years or so. Even Harry's change in hair texture could have changed due to hormones at puberty as often happens. The whole issue is complicated and no should begin to draw conclusions based ion arm chair science.

I have seen very white looking children from African American parents and yes the hair was not kinky. Even blue-eyed, hazel-eyed blond babies with an African American parent. Genetics is a beautiful thing not something to be used to castigate a parent with or make them the subject of suspicion. I find Archie's provenance more of a question because Meghan did not look genuinely pregnent at times.

To the poster wondering about interracial couple existing in the 1980's, yes they were an everyday occurrence where I lived in So. California then.
SwampWoman said…
FWIW, Fairy Crocodile, there are black people here who are questioning that if black lives matter, why thugs were allowed to loot and burn their businesses and stores and kill those owners that tried to protect their businesses. Even if the corporate-owned stores such as the Walmarts and Targets and pharmacies and grocery stores started repairing tomorrow (they can't), the black-owned small businesses are gone. Politicians and Hollywood wokeratti have bailed out the people that were responsible for their losses, but did not do one damn thing for those people whose jobs and businesses were looted and burned out of existence.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Indy

To put things in prospective Andrews's personal net worth is about £40 million. He is firmly within the royal network of fortified palaces, armed vehicles, private train coaches, helicopters, trusted servants and mansions. The risk of his abduction or assassination is not high in this cocoon.

Tax funded protection due to Phillip is more honorary than practical. He rarely goes outside of his house and (if I am to believe what I read) has limited mobility. His public appearances now are practically non existent. I can live with a bill for his protection.

Andrew, on other hand, is an active individual who has no intention of sitting quietly looking at the window. He moves around, travels, meets people. All this continues on private basis. The bill for his security is pretty significant. His armed guard costs what? £ 300 000 a year? I suspect the bill is hire because I have difficulty believing he has just one person with him 24/7.

If the Queen is concerned for his safety she can pay for favorite son out of her substantial private wealth. Estimated Queen's worth is well over £500 000 000. She can pay for Harry too.

Sorry for the rant but I am quickly losing respect for the institution and for the Queen. There are times when being a figurehead saying very little while sparkling diamonds around is not enough.
CookieShark said…
It will be interesting to see what happens if MM is part of these televised discussions.

The press was fairly deferential to H&M last year and never really challenged them about Travalyst. Will the American press hold back as well?

If you watch the footage of her from the International Women's discussion in 2019, she is actually not very articulate compared to the other women there. Those women have accomplished much, much more than MM and could speak concretely about their work and ideas. MM kept repeating "education" and it was apparent that she was ill equipped beyond making this suggestion.

Also, what does this mean for Archewell?
CatEyes said…
My comment above was not directed by and large to most posters who naturally question but the mean-spirited who won't let go after people have politely provide info and you still want to harangue.

How would you feel if your child was dissected like he was under a microscope? I feel sorry for poor little Archie as one day he will surely read what was written about him as a defenseless little baby with too-white skin and straight wispy hair; even criminals in our society aren't subjected to this level of scrutiny.
@Fairy Crocodile

You're absolutely right.

From what I've seen and read, few details are being given out by BBC beyond saying that the policewoman who hit her head on traffic lights and fell from her horse is `stable'. I bet that was one heck of a collision and fall. The Sun says she's got broken ribs & a collapsed lung. Had the horse trampled a protester, the police would be blamed.

Could have been serious head injuries - even with a hard hat. A friend fell from her horse and was out cold for quite a time, despite a helmet. She hit the back of her head and it disrupted her sight - presumably because that's the region where vision is processed, IIRC.

Yes, political trouble makers, violent revolutionaries. MM's privileges should be withdrawn immediately.

All I'd heard about the horse was that it went back to its stable.

These protesters make me sick.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Swamp Woman

Yes. Floyd's murder is the murder that must be investigated. There may be criminal structure responsible for it. Looks like the guy who killed him had been determined to kill. May be he wanted to silence Floyd because of the fake bill. If indeed there is a criminal operation there, Floyd speaking about the origins of the bill could have seriously endangered it. And may be there is a chain of corrupt police behind the operation shielding it too.

That is why investigation is crucial.

Violence undermines legitimate demands for justice. People of all colors who suffered as result had nothing to do with the murder of Floyd. They are victims too. Peaceful protesters must distance themselves from any violence, otherwise the whole case is tainted irreversibly.

Indy said…
I don't have a problem with Andrew getting security but then again I'm not a British taxpayer so I don't count. One reason is because he did out in years of full time royal and the other reason is he hadn't been charged ) convicted and you still have to have innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers. That concept understandably frustrates many but think of this world without it. Harry hadn't done much when he was a full time total but compensated as if he put in full time work all these years. He wasn't really kicked out against his will either. He was told full time or nothing and he made that choice .
Sandie said…
Genetics is a strange thing.

On my father's side, I am pure European ancestry.

On my mother's side, an African ancestor was revealed by DNA testing. Mt DNA gets passed along the female line so there must have been a female in every generation passing it on. (When I say African Ancestry I mean one step away from Eve ... it really is 'ancient' Mt DNA that I have.)

I have blue eyes and very fair skin, but the frizziest hair you can imagine (I spent my entire life twirling, and Brylcreaming, and blow-waving until I got old, shaved it all off, started all over again, and said 'let it be natural'.) My eldest sister is fair skinned, has green eyes, and has very straight dirty blonde hair. My other sister has olive skin, brown eyes and straight brown hair (the straightest hair you have ever seen).

When we got the results of the DNA test, everyone in the family looked at me and said 'that explains your hair' then took out the family photos and said 'that explains ...'.

Someone here posted how in South Africa, a couple classified as white (and looking very European) with white parents and other relatives would suddenly have a child who looked distinctly of mixed race. You never know when a trait is going to pop up and what is it going to be. However, Meghan is very fair and it is unusual for someone with her parents to be so fair.

Meghan lived with both parents until she was about 2, then with her mother until she was about 11. There are lots of photos of her with her mother's family (all black). I find it odd that she did not acquire a black identity in those formative years. She only pretends to be black when it suits her (and we can all bring up a story about racism or sexism). Perhaps her school experiences are what influenced her most and she went to an elite Hollywood school from day 1.
So, I met the security team of a very famous American singer who lives in London before anyone knew they were living there full-time. She moved there in 2016 FYI. Think the press release to promote her business came out in 2018.

Anyway, they explained their entire process and I watched it in action:
4 Full-Time guards, 1 Boss.
100k per guard
5* Hotel rooms for each guard, near her house in Regent's Park area.
Food stipends for each guard.
Flights first class, or private wherever she went at the drop of a hat.
The whole operation easily surpassed $1.5MM per year, I'd put it over $2MM.

Unless Andrew doesn't travel much, they are fudging the numbers.

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D1 said…
Maybe off topic now..
I had a coloured/black friend (no offence intended)both her parents and bother were blonde haired & blue eyed.
When she was born her father was ready to divorced the his wife thinking she had had an affair.
They later found out there was African in the bloodline, she was what was referred to as a throwback.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Indy

I respect your opinion.

Just want to say one thing. I had a chance to closely watch Andrew "working" as a business promoter during an official visit. Believe me his value for UK had been grossly overestimated.

He was surrounded by a sycophantic crowd of individuals catching his every word like a peacock among hens. And the information we get is he was vastly more successful lining his own pockets than promoting British businesses abroad. In fact royals could not answer a simple question what he actually achieved at all.

My disappointment with the royals started after this experience with Andrew.

I am quickly losing respect for the Queen, still undecided on Charles (although admittedly he did hugely more good than Andrew) and tentatively positive about Wills, Kate, Anne and Sophie.
Indy said…
I just read Tatler lost 1800 subscribers this week. Anyone know if this is true or fake news? Maybe the true elite that live that life don't want MM in their sphere , Kate or no Kate.
I think Meghan was taught by her mother who married a white man, to distance herself from her AA heritage.

I grew up with a bunch of half White/ half Mexican American relatives, who were taught the same thing from an early age with the purpose of avoiding racism. It was the full blooded Mexican relatives with the mixed children who taught the heritage distancing, so their kids would stand a chance. It doesn't surprise me. You do what you have to do to get out of poverty, and the ghetto. Her black family members were not well off.

None of my family members became famous, successful yes, not famous. The ramifications would be obvious if they had become famous- like Megs. The best policy is that she needs to own it completely and be honest about the measures she took and why. Otherwise, it doesn't sit well with anyone.

It's also obvious she reads this blog based on her press releases - look she popped up including Harry in the race BLM article.

We are probably/accidentally her best advisors lol.
Tatler:
They do not want backlash with the RF. Losing paying subscribers over their false allegations and mistruths is definitely not what they want. They have lasted being a source of truth to the elite. They can't afford to tarnish their brand.
xxxxx said…
@Unknown June 7, 2020 at 8:56 PM /

They all want to lighten themselves up with some cream in their coffee. Lighten up their off spring. This is done all over Asia. There is a tremendous market in lightening creams and soaps. These can be seen on eBay. In Philippines they are very popular.

Sally Hemings was doing the same. She was not raped. She was a willing/companion/sex/no violence adjunct. Her Thomas Jefferson derived offspring are lightened more than Megs these days. I saw them on the boob tube.

Willing as in what else is there to do in the sticks? Back then? I have been to see (tour) Thomas Jefferson's house at Monticello. This was a while back and the slaves quarters were pointed out as an after thought.
M.A. said…
About - Andrew. The queen has been bailing him out for years, its not a surprise nor uncharacteristic of her to keep paying his security via the taxpayer. It would make more sense to pay it privately in my opinion. Charles should cut him loose. I kinda hoping that he goes full Micheal Corleone (with Andrew as Freddo) on him after the Queen pass. I dont know if he will, but it would be fun!
I haven’t read all the comments, so I don’t know when Andrew and his security became topical. I haven’t seen anything in the British press, so I was intrigued what started the discussion. :o)
YankeeDoodle said…
A conversation with my son:

Son: Mom, you are obsessed over loser English dick..ads”
Mom : Son, these two DHs are a Prince of Great Britain, and his American wife. This Prince had Shakespeare write about his ancestors. He had castles to visit, mansions to live in. His grandmother)s face is on the money of many countries.
Son: Mom, nobody cares. No one. Nobody. You look and act young - why do you embarrass yourself talking about princes, black princes, queens, kings? I get they are your fun. But why do you try to tell me why two stupid people are nothings to anybody? Jeez, Mom, you need to get a life.
Mom I guess, but what other people in these days make me laugh?
Son: if you think losers who gave up, what, castles, money, and more, to make themselves important, then I want to be them, and live their old lives. Stupid. I can make you laugh, too.
Mom). Yes, son. Luckily, your Dad and I raised our children to be independent, and never “rely on other persons kindness.” Your education, and talents-
Son: Yeah, yeah. We get it. We are Ethiopian Jews, Eastern European Jews, Scots, Welsh, Finnish Christians. And we got where we are are because of, yeah, yeah, our determination. Tell my friends who think I am special because I am white and black. Stop about English princes.
Humor Me said…
The current DM on how MM/ PFNAH are being "educated" on BLM in America. While this is a good thing for Harry, being raised in British culture, I am shaking my head at the hypocrisy if and when these two speak on what they have learned and how thy will choose to insert themselves into the story of BLM. Harry was a Captain in British forces - oh surely he has had some leadership classes on dealing with ALL individual and cultures in the British army. And MM - a POC by her own admission now that she is with Harry, she who has "passed" as white before she could trade on her heritage. I do think this PR blip will not be in their favor......
@Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/865803157/george-floyd-and-derek-chauvin-were-co-workers-says-former-club-owner

Yes and Nutty also mentioned this connection. Will the mainstream media really look into this further? I wouldn't hold my breathe.
The BBC reported that all officers present during the George Foreman incident were white......

MM is going to run with this racist perspective as it clearly gives her a platform.
Does she care about BLM? Does she care about David Dorn who was killed/murdered amidst the looting/rioting in St. Louis? He was an African American but no statement from MM in support of his or the others who were killed in the riots/protests? Only some black lives matter it seems.....
Sandie said…
I guess Meghan was not invited:

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/how-to-watch-youtube-graduation-obama-bts-beyonce-lady-gaga-1234626544-1234626544/

This is the list of people who are participating in this YouTube Graduation special:
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Michelle Obama’s “Reach Higher” initiative is set to host the first hour of the YouTube original special, beginning at 12 p.m. PT, which includes a commencement addresses from Mrs. Obama and BeyoncΓ©. At 4 p.m. PT, former President Obama will give his keynote address, followed by the ceremonial tassel-turn at the end of the commencement celebration led by pop singer Katy Perry.

Additional commencement speakers include:
K-Pop group BTS,
Lady Gaga,
former Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates,
Alphabet and Google CEO Sundar Pichai,
former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice,
and Malala Yousafzai.

The special will feature a performance of “Beautiful Day” produced by Finneas, featuring Leon Bridges, Camila Cabello, Noah Cyrus, Ty Dolla $ign, Cynthia Erivo, Khalid, Tove Lo, Chris Martin, and Ben Platt. A performance of Maya Angelou’s “Still I Rise” will also take place, featuring Madison Calley, Misty Copeland, Naya Lovell, Janelle MonΓ‘e, Shonda Rhimes, Tracee Ellis Ross, Kelly Rowland, and Yara Shahidi.

Guest Appearances
● J.J. Abrams
● Ray Allen
● La La Anthony
● Jack Black
● Ian Book
● Tom Brady
● Erika Brown
● Jenna Bush Hager
● Andy Cohen
● Stephen Colbert
● Lana Condor
● Cindy Crawford & Kaia Gerber
● Joseph Gordon Levitt
● DJ D-Nice
● Snoop Dogg & Martha Stewart
● Billie Eilish
● Missy Elliott
● Bill & Melinda Gates
● Evan Goldberg
● Jake Gyllenhaal
● Mark Hamill
● Tom Hanks & Rita Wilson
● Michael B. Jordan
● Colin Jost
● Rupi Kaur
● Courtney Kemp
● Keegan Michael Key
● Alicia Keys
● Jimmy Kimmel
● Jennifer Lopez
● Demi Lovato
● Peyton Manning
● Camila Mendes
● Shawn Mendes
● Hasan Minhaj
● Natalie Morales
● John Mulaney
● Katelyn Ohashi
● Chris Pine
● Antoni Porowski
● Billy Porter
● Seth Rogen
● Phoebe Robinson
● Michael Strahan
● Taylor Swift
● Daisy Ridley
● Justin Timberlake
● Gabrielle Union & Dwyane Wade
● Kerry Washington
● Russell Westbrook
● Russell Wilson & Ciara
● Cast of HBO’s “Euphoria”: Angus Cloud, Jacob Elordi, Barbie Ferreira, Storm Reid, Zendaya
● Cast of “Schitt’s Creek”: Eugene Levy, Catherine O’Hara, Dan Levy, Annie Murphy, Jenn Robertson, Emily Hampshire, Noah Reid, Karen Robinson, Sarah Levy, Rizwan Manji
● Cast of “The Simpsons”
Unknown said…
Robin Thicke and Paula Patton are a good example of a mixed couple that had a child that looks completely white. Robin Thicke is a white Canadian. Paula is biracial with a white American mother and a black American father.

Pic of Paula Patton and her son:
https://hollywoodlife.com/2017/01/26/paula-patton-child-abuse-investigation-julian-robin-thicke-son/

It's definitely possible for H&M's genetic child to be completely white passing. In fact, H&M's genetic child technically is white with black admixture. That being said, Meg's bizarre pregnancy and non-stop lying is why I think Archie's birth and parentage is questionable. Unfortunately, sins of the father always haunt children. Archie's parents have exhausted any good faith the public can give them. Trust in their word is absurd at this point.
CookieShark said…
@ Sandie maybe she was hoping her speech would be included?

I think this is exactly the kind of celebrity event she would like.

I thought I read about MM gate crashing one of MOs book signings. Does anyone else recall this?
Fairy Crocodile said…
Raspberry Raffle

Link re Andy

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11801413/andrew-300k-bodyguards-queen/
Teasmade said…
I hate to go off topic too far. Re David Dorn, the retired police office killed in St. Louis: He was set upon by seven persons who were looting as he responded to a burglar alarm at a pawn shop. They were shown on surveillance video:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-release-pawn-shop-surveillance-video-in-hunt-for-killer-of-retired-police/article_5d20c3ee-3234-5647-ac18-24d04e834cb7.html

Dorn was a beloved figure, and 77 years old. Not sure this is on the Harkle radar.

Nice to see you, Lt!
Aquagirl said…
@Cookie: Yes, she crashed one of MO’s book signings and threw her totally off schedule.

Then she lied about MO (I think it was for the Vogue issue?) saying that they had lunch together, when, in fact, MO emailed her answers. I can see why she wouldn’t be included in this event.
Bennie said…
OT..... More bad news for PA

"HAND ANDY OVER Prince Andrew ‘faces court quiz over paedo pal Epstein within weeks’ after US demands UK hand him over"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11805488/prince-andrew-quizzed-over-jeffrey-epstein-links/
Mel said…
It has always floored me that mm thinks that she's a peer to Michelle Obama. As if...
@Fairy Crocodile

Thank you for the link re Andrew. Now I know why. ;o)
Unknown said…
They got the A-Team for YT's "Dear Class 2020" commencement. No way they would have invited her. BTS? The Obamas? Meghan who?

Now I wonder about Meg's "graduation speech." I suspect she did that speech so she could get coverage with headlines like "All the celebs that heralded the 2020 Graduates." I've noticed her making ploys like that earlier as well.
Unknown said…
@Mel LOL, Meg is nowhere near the same league as anyone on that list. While Harry & Meg were "learning" about BLM, BTS donated $1 million to the cause. If Harry and Meg are such millionaires, where is all their charity-giving going?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-bts-minneapolis-police-idUSKBN23E08T
Mel said…
If mm was still with the brf, it would leak eventually what the story is with her stupid commencement video.

OTH, not being with the brf means there's no good way to keep the buzz going about it.

I wonder if she didn't get wind of Oprah's thing and was trying to force her way into that. As in, oh, look, I have this video all ready to go, here you are!

Would be too funny if O said, uh, no thanks.

I can see why mm wouldn't want this to be the cause for her first big outing. Not enough about her. She knows she's a fraud in that arena.

No way to merch off it, either. No fund-raising opportunities to slide funds into their personal accounts.
jessica said…
Mark Cuban has some whacky clip on his Instagram praising the idea of marketing Harry and Meghan and creating products around them.
jessica said…
Not sure where blind gossip gets their leads. They may have gotten it from Omid, or Mega herself trying to get invited to the BLM broadcast.

It wouldn’t surprise me.

As far as the idea of them making money without established real careers- like Sophie elaborates on, the $ they make will be low. Anyone else funding it will make it- Oprah, Cuban, etc.

Does anyone know why Harry didn’t leave the RF after he quit the military in 2015? Surely that would have been a better move.
Unknown said…
@jessica I don't think JCMH FKAP ever intended to leave the BRF. I don't thing Meg intended it either. I just think they planned to be Senior Royals on their selfish terms and their antics forced the hand of the BRF. Saying the leave was voluntary is about saving face. They've been feeding stories moaning about how they didn't want to leave and how they didn't get the support they deserved.
Fifi LaRue said…
I am dx as paranoid schizophrenic. My children will have nothing to do with me they are nasty ingrates, exhusband is long gone, bf lasted about 6 months until I screamed at him for trimming a branch on a tree in my yard which he had no business doing. My mother was the only one who was loyal to me but now she's dead. My siblings don't speak to me because they are vengeful. Maybe I was once professionally employed but that was decades ago. I am now on disability for my health issues. Many of you on this sight pick on me and throw shade and generally bad mouth me. I won't have it. I WON'T HAVE IT! Stop talking and writing about me! Stop disrespecting me!
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Unknown said…
I can't wait for Lady C's book. I avoid Amazon like the plaque so I might order it off of Waterstones.

One thing I wonder about is if injunctions can and will affect the content of Lady C's book? I hope not!

Also, I am pretty sure Oprah and Iyanla Vanzant eventually reconciled years after the fact. Interesting someone brought it up because Oprah's tantrum sounds a lot like the tantrum Lady C ascribed to her and/or her people about not bailing on another party to make it on her show.

I don't believe in words or actions, but I believe in patterns. Oprah has an interesting one.
just sayin' said…
@ Charade - I agree with you. The Harkles are still fighting for their own vision of half in/half out. They refuse to acknowledge that they are out, because “royalty” is the only thing that makes them unique. Without that, they are just a handful of tired, hypocritical, wannabe cliches.
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xxxxx said…
Bring back Elle
Get rid of the stupid, schizo, shit fit throwing Cateyes with her fake avatar and her boasting lying bullshit. Now this dimmest of dim bulbs is a biologist too?

The new confessional Cateyes with "I am dx as paranoid schizophrenic. My children will have nothing to do with me they are nasty ingrates, exhusband is long gone" is a vast improvement. Plus funny.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@HappyDays

“For the sake of a starting point, let’s say that Doria is between 70 to 75% African ancestry. That would put Meghan at 35-37.5% African ancestry at the most. Archie would be somewhere in the range of 17.5 to 18.75% African ancestry. It could be more. It could be less. These are just ballpark percentages.”

DNA is weird. I had a test done by one of the big American companies. It showed me to be 67% England/Wales, 12% Italian and the rest was all other European. I thought this was weird because my maternal grandfather was full blooded Italian. I had my mom do a test. 53% Italian. It matched her to me as my mother. However, I do not have 25%ish Italian DNA. I also had my brother test. 23% Italian DNA and also matched him to our mother. The best I can understand from what I read is that DNA can “express” like traits, i.e dominant/recessive. My understanding may be completely inadequate. LOL! That means my father’s DNA stampeded my mother’s.

I fully believe there is something fishy about Archie’s birth. However, I don’t think we can assume he would necessarily exhibit African traits. I think he looks enough like the MM and Harry that he’s theirs. I just don’t think she carried him.
JHanoi said…
i don’t think PA has been or will be traveling much since his car crash interview. until the epstein stink on him goes away, h’s persona non-grata everywhere. he can’t come to the us or other countries investigating, unitl those investigations are closd. he’s stuck primarily in the UK and maybe visiting his chalet. while he’s ‘home’ in the UK doesn’t he live on one of HM’s properties that already has some security? maybe the estimates are OK for his current sitiuation.
Also wasnt the security cutbacks for HM other kids too?, PAnne, SWessex, PE? isn’t HM askinh them to re-evaluate the whole thing, not just PA?
xxxxx said…
Comments ---- Do not put 100% trust in DNA tests done by those "big" companies. From what I read on the internet they can be sloppy and off. And Prince Andrew will not be going to the US to be interrogated by US authorities. Not in this decade or any decade. His main concern is selling his bloated ski chalet in the Swiss party town that had a huge Covid outbreak. Verbier.
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Indy said…
@Sandie, thanks for the list. I literally LMAO . So hard. Meghan's going to blow up. I hope Harry leaves and gets a room at Chateau Marmot for a few days. She's not on Oprah's list for the town hall and I thought she may be a surprise guest but now I doubt it. I know we've heard rumors of Hollywood blacklisting and her new A-list friends keeping quiet and now I'm starting to believe it. See, Meghan? People , even blacks, don't like it when you lie about being discriminated because it doesn't help. I don't know what Mark Cuban is about but I don't think he's in with A-listers and probably doesn't know. He's just thinking business and money making. Unless people merche them for jokes. I hope I haven't posted this twice by accident . My finger slipped and I wiped out a post.
lizzie said…
@Charade wrote about why there are questions about Archie and said:

"Meg's bizarre pregnancy and non-stop lying is why I think Archie's birth and parentage is questionable....Trust in their word is absurd at this point."

Agree. Also trust in those who speak for them is absurd.

If we hadn't been told by Sara Latham Meghan went into labor when in fact the baby had already been born many hours before and was already at home, if we hadn't been told by Ellen Archie had "tufts of red hair" nearly a year ago, hair that still isn't evident to most of us, if H&M hadn't told people at the Oct Well Child Awards Archie is "definitely" a redhead, if we hadn't been told in Nov Archie was attracted to other red-haired babies at his playgroup so he crawled right on over (yeah, right), if we hadn't been told so many absurd things about Archie's  development and his physical characteristics while being subjected to at least one instance of an "Archie doll" (no way that stiff dangling thing with no diaper outline in Canada was a real baby), I seriously doubt people would be quite so focused on his appearance.
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YankeeDoodle said…
Can we get back to the stupidity of the HAmS, and not figure out the percentage of what G-d gave each of us the blood in our veins? As I know, our blood is red. Let us get back to the blue-blooded Saxe-Coburg-Battenberg-Mountbatten-Hanover-Windsor-Spencer-Churchill- Hesse-Haakon-Bourbon-Romanov-whatevers, and how one supposed very minor lowly prince, who thought in his very minor brain, that he was equal to his older brother, except older brother did not inherit hemophilia, and thus will be King, and his son King, and thus minor prince brother should have figured out that a palace in a hand is worth two tacky, pay-us-back-and-the-IRS mansions in the bushes?


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Anonymous said…
I was going to lurk permanently because I do not have anything more to say of value regarding Ms. Narkle and her sad husband. They are liars and grifters. But I’m still reading here because so many posters are smart and erudite, and it’s a pleasure to read. But today I came across this post by xxxxx regarding Sally Hemings and feel compelled to respond to this because I find everything about this post to be offensive. Nutty , this might be off-topic, but since we are discussing Markle using her racial background as currency in her quest for fame and fortune, it is tangentially related?

Dear xxxxx: Educate yourself. The website for Monticello (www.monticello.org) and the excellent history by Dr. Annette Gordon-Reed, The Hemingses of Monticello, will give you the background on both Jefferson’s mistress and the slave population of Monticello. Are you insinuating that the slaves quarters at Monticello were merely an afterthought because they wasn’t considered important? I have been to Monticello. Twice. Rest assured. The tour has greatly expanded the history of the slave population at Monticello. We are now fully aware of how Jefferson used them to create his agrarian wonderland on the backs of his fellow man. Sorry, on the backs of his SLAVES. The website has an excellent section on Mulberry Row and how integral the slave population was to the running of Monticello. Jefferson inherited much debt when he married his wife, Martha. But thank god he had a population of workers who had no choice but to till those fields, for FREE, until they dropped. Although he believed that all men are created equal, slaves didn’t count. Except when working his fields.THEN they counted.

Sally Hemings was born in 1773. The U.S. at that time was 99% “sticks,” with the exception of New York and Philadelphia. I imagine there was plenty to do in the “sticks.” Between cutting down trees and tilling those cleared fields, making clothes, shoes, soap, candles, and tools, and cooking in the stifling heat and humidity of a Virginia summer, I would imagine there weren’t many idle hours if any. And they had no choice. BECAUSE THEY WERE SLAVES.

The website also does an excellent job on the history of Jefferson’s mistress, Ms. Sally Hemings, by whom he fathered four children who survived infancy. She was his wife’s half-sister, BTW. All in the family. She was 15 when she was taken to Paris when Jefferson was appointed U.S. Ambassador to France. Once in France, she was considered a free woman because France did not recognize slavery. No one knows what transpired between Ms. Hemings and Jefferson. Not even you. To state that she was romping around with him to put “the cream in her coffee” is a despicable thing to say. What we do know is that she agreed to return to the U.S. (as his slave) only if he would free her and their offspring upon his death, which he did in his will. These were the only slaves he freed. No other Hemings relative were freed and no other slaves on the plantation were freed. The Hemings at Monticello were part of his wife’s dowry. How cute, Human beings as a wedding present. Sort of like the family china, only better.

She was his slave. What part of this aren’t you getting? Do you really think she had a choice between living a life of poverty in a country where her skills were minimal and where she didn’t even know the language versus returning to the U.S. where she had a roof over her head and food in her belly.

American history is finally coming to terms with Jefferson’s legacy as a brilliant man but lacking much moral center. His refusal to give up his slaves (because his lifestyle and Monticello couldn’t survive without their free labor) was at the heart of his breach with John Adams. To put a white, older, upper-class gentleman from the pinnacles of the genteel southern aristocracy on the same level with a teenager of mixed race who had no standing in society, NONE, is ridiculous.
CatEyes said…
Lol as usual it is the very jealous 'xxxxx' and 'Unknown' (FAKE CatEyes') who have shown themselves AGAIN TO BE THE DISRUPTORS.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU and MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT heal your anger and jealousy and evilness toward my children and myself.

PS. Notice you two, no one, absolutely no one, joins with you in your expressed sentiments. You are only making a fool of yourselves and elevating me.
xxxxx said…
Unknown said...
But "original recipe CatEyes" keeps blaming ME for "CatEyes#2" and I have had nothing to do with him (Rustiee)!!!
I am using "unknown" because she started trolling me and I'm still getting trolled!


By my count there are three unknowns here so this trolling goes with the unknown territory. The Colonel binned 8 of his "original recipes" of spice blends before he came up with the one that is used today in KFC franchises. So there is still hope for Cats who drove out the Brilliant and sorely missed Elle of the NW.
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There are two KFCs in Estonia and in Azerbaijan they must love this toxic waste dump sht>>>

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In October 2012, the world's largest KFC opened in Baku. The 1,600-square-meter outlet, with a seating capacity of 300, is housed in the city's Sabunçu rail station built in 1926. AFK Ltd reportedly invested 3 million euros to restore the nearly destroyed building.[129][130] 8 outlets.[7]
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@xxxxx (formerly size 'xxxx'; 4x for short) and 'Uknown and 'unknown' (FAKE 'CatEyes')

To paraphrase the poster 'Rut' from a month or so ago>>>>Elle is gone,,,Boo Hoo...no one cares!!!<<<

You two illustrate why 'Mischie' wrote to Nutty that Elle's minions were a detraction to this site etc... You two disrupt and act worse than Meghan; at least MM does not go after people on this blog.

And it is just like 'Elle' (er you two) to go after me on the basis of my being a Biologist. Too bad you are probably high school dropouts and act like elementary students. Sorry if you couldn't cut it and make something of yourself other than blubbering stupid sounding idiots in front of the world.

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@WW - a very good and educated post. Thanks for somewhat splitting it down the middle and don't go away in a huff. I was at (visited, a long 60 minute tour) Thomas Jefferson's Monticello in 1991, when did you visit if at all? I described what I saw and the slave quarters (saw them!) and what they did was 10% of the tour at best. This was 30 years ago so go meditate on this.

And as far as Sally Hemmings DNA goes you know what the truth is. It comes from someone in the Jefferson family. Thomas probably but there is no proof. What you are too dumbly prejudiced to admit is that many/most female slave associations with white masters were not rape, but were done to elevate themselves and their offspring. Those were the times so go on and outrage about them.

As far as Doria etc. and I have posted before. I put Doria at 65% African DNA with the rest white and Native American. The average whiteness of a black American is about 25%, so I have read.
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The publishers write-up on Lady CC's book makes it sound just as sycophantic as Finding Freedom. "The fall from popular grace of Prince Harry, the previously adulated brother of the heir to the British throne, as a consequence of his marriage to the beautiful and dynamic Hollywood actress and "Suits" star, Meghan Markle...

...She analyses the implications of the actions of a young and ambitious Duke and Duchess of Sussex, in love with each other and with the empowering lure of fame and fortune...

...Meghan and Harry: The Real Story exposes how the royal couple tried and failed to change the royal system by adapting it to their own needs and ambitions and, upon failing, how they decided to create a new system and life for themselves."

So I am guessing there will be no exposΓ©s on bumps and dolls. Sorry if this has already been written about. I don't think I'll be forking out $34.36 for it.
Cass said…
Lucy, thank you for mentioning Reginald Denny. What was done to him was unspeakably savage. We can’t ever let anybody forget that he was an INNOCENT victim of racism!!!!!!
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@xxxxx

Unknown said..>>>>We don't inherit an equal split of our parent's DNA.<<<

You are wrong; we inherit one-half of our genome from our mother and one-half from our father. You two jealous idiots make fun of me being a biologist but you don't even know the basics of biology!!
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To nitwit original recipe Cats

You are too stupid and go away. What unknown was talking about is the colloquial DNA conversation that goes on all the time. As to whether the baby and child looks more like the father and his linage or more like the mother and her linage. Go away fake biologist and fake lawyer. You schizo lie about everything. And don't give me your Godly, Holy Spirit bs until you apologize to Elle who you drove off. Cats is 4 watt dim bulb eternal!
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@Lighthearted Astrid

I thought the same thing myself. It may be nothing more than a dressed up version of what we already know about them with a few added details to fill the pages. But at first, it did seem promising. Perhaps Lady C doesn't want to burn bridges with the Sussexes since they may be together for longer than we wish.
A distinct possibility @CatEyes. I guess putting any salacious details on the cover would encourage injunctions as well. I have no idea whether involved parties get advanced copies. I hope not.
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I'm going to be very disappointed if Lady C's book is not anything new. Maybe I'll cancel my order until I hear from anyone who's read it. Another new story from Meghan's friends today reiterating Kate didn't say two words to her and she would've embraced the sisterhood, never helped blah blah. Here's my question. Didn't Harry say his family was off limits? So here he shows again he can't be trusted. And he wants back his military positions? Why would they if he's a two faced liar?
Fifi LaRue said…
No one will ever forgive you nor forget how you treated Elle.

ssssssssssss! Reooowww!
Fifi LaRue said…
Kitty's been skipping the spoiled tuna comments. A yacht racer, a yacht girl, a sheep herder, a cashmere cat fancier, now a biologist and DNA expert! Spoiled tuna does stink. Swipe with my kitty claw. Reoooww!
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@Lighthearted Astrid

I would think Lady C would be smart enough to only write things for which she has sources when it comes to potentially libelous items. But much can be written that is salacious but it based on opinion only. So we may get some titillating items said about the HAMS and even the BRF.

Lady C is an experienced author so I doubt she would have anything subject to injunctions unless of course sue-happy Harkles decide to bring another legal action. In their case, maybe it would even be a good idea so Meghan can 'set the record straight' and give publicity to the Freedom book by Scobie.
Ugh! well we don't want that!
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I hope the book by Lady C gives details on Meghan's alleged temper, what motivated Harry to marry Meghan so quickly and the truth about Archie. It would be interesting to know what the BRF especially what Charles and William think about Meghan and what has happened with Harry.

Well got to go feed livestock and poultry.
I have been thinking they were forced out of the RF too.

The story and behavior doesn’t make sense the other way around, as if they voluntarily left and then their lack of planning screwed them over. Who quits a situation like that without a huge plan in place?

They were notified that they couldn’t merch Royal before their dismissal. Making a public manifesto was a weak attempt to push the Queen to do what they wanted through public outcry.

It was all very strange.
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"Didn't Harry say his family was off limits? So here he shows again he can't be trusted."

I'm not sure he ever said that although I've seen lots of people here and elsewhere claim he did.

In some stories supposedly he said he would do nothing to disrespect the Queen. (Gee, what a big promise for a former Army officer and TQ's grandson to make.) In others he supposedly said he'd not disrespect certain royals--TQ, Charles, and William. In yet others he said he'd not disrespect the RF.

But we don't really know if any of those stories were accurate, do we? And I'm not sure no matter what Harry said he'd do, it meant his wife was similarly bound (or even that Harry would have thought she was.)

Don't get me wrong. I think both H&M have behaved appallingly. Like spoiled teenagers throwing fits because they were told they couldn't stay out all night for a party. Not like middle-aged adults who supposedly have a child of their own. Adults who are critical of "old people" not stepping up to save the world (in their eyes) yet they have no problem being dependent on the Bank of (Old) Dad, on taxpayers they call racists, and on the kindness of random strangers for a roof over their heads.
Well, to use a MM expression, I hope Lady C's book shines a light on all those things. I somehow doubt it though.
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@Lizzie, Yes Yes. You said it perfectly. The two of them are so pathetic I don't know if I'm disgusted or almost feel sorry for two people that are such losers and don't even know.









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CatEyes said...
I am dx as paranoid schizophrenic. My children will have nothing to do with me they are nasty ingrates, exhusband is long gone, bf lasted about 6 months until I screamed at him for trimming a branch on a tree in my yard which he had no business doing. My mother was the only one who was loyal to me but now she's dead. My siblings don't speak to me because they are vengeful. Maybe I was once professionally employed but that was decades ago. I am now on disability for my health issues. Many of you on this sight pick on me and throw shade and generally bad mouth me. I won't have it. I WON'T HAVE IT! Stop talking and writing about me! Stop disrespecting me!

Well done. This pretty much sums up the original recipe Cats. I like the use of "sight" for website. On target for the nitwit Cats who drove off Elle. Elle's commentary would be very good today as all has advanced from Covid into looting and burning down.

Elle vs Cats was 20x better than this nitwit C who still plagues us, though on her meds and off booze is fairly coherent these days.
KCM1212 said…
A Gentle Reminder

Please don't feed the trolls. I thought we had agreed on a policy of non-engagement?

I really don't want to lose this blog.
Or any more posters who add such great insight.
abbyh said…

Thank you Cass for the mention of Lucy's comment re: Reginald Denny.

One of the first things I came across was an 2017 interview with Damian Williams who danced around the idea that his anger made it ok, he somehow did not owe some sort of apology (on any level) to Reginald for being merely collateral damage as an innocent to what happened collectively racially.

This makes me sad. The idea that one should not have to acknowledge they might have done something wrong in an effort to show there is evil in the world ... (aka: 2 wrongs make it right ... so ... that means this anger will not be able to end ... ever ... because that would mean some sort of recognition of responsibility ..who wants to admit that on a legal level?).

Sad. Really sad. People you do not know can decide to change your life because they are angry and you are there doing your job (because if you don't, you will get fired/be replaced). And that was then and this is now ... and so much more is happening in the world which ups people's fears and tensions.

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KCM1212 said…
An even worse event happened Tuesday in St Louis.

A 77 year old retired police captain, who is a POC, tried to stop 7 looters from looting his friends pawn shop.

They killed him.
And live streamed the murder in Facebook.

4 other cops were shot the same night.
How is this supposed to help anything? Where is the rage for David Dorn?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/david-dorn-shooting-arrest-murder-charge-announced-in-killing-of-retired-st-louis-police-captain

Sorry for OT rant, Nutty
Fifi LaRue said…
Original recipe CatEyes now has lost everyone to the Holocaust and yes you complain to your doctor about all the mistreatment you suffer at the hands of others but you CatEyes are the original abuser. Exactly what paranoid schizophrenics do, complain about others picking on you. Thanks for sharing your diagnosis now we know what kind of cray cray. Reoowww! ssssssssss! Swipe with my claw!
Fifi LaRue said…
My DNA results came back. I am 96% English, 2% Scot, 2% Welsh. I have connections that go way way back in English history. I will be checking the results further, and others on the "family" tree. So far, it looks intriguing! I may be related to British Royalty. I just knew it! Will keep everyone posted on further developments.
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I belong in a federally protected class and I am being discriminated against and retaliated against for objecting to the discrimination and prejudice!.
@KCM1212. That is absolutely heartbreaking. Sickening. 2020 is a truly shocking year.

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I object to the racism that 'xxxxx' has directed at me.....

I object to prejudice against me because of my age....

I object to the prejudice against my disabled status....

all by 'xxxxx' and 'Unknown' and FAKE CatEyes

Shame to those who tell me I should face this discrimination and prejudice and racism without objecting!
just sayin' said…
@KC - I appreciate your comments.

Today’s discussion has run the gamut. All the talk about genetics got me thinking about what a miracle each life is. How millions of people are born and each and everyone is unique. How is that possible? Incredible!

Next we talk about H&M and other celebrities, which gets me to thinking about the way in which our society often elevates people for superficial reasons, rather than goodness and worth. Why is that possible? Infuriating!

Finally, the discussion turns to heartbreaking tragedies. Murders. How is it possible that such evil exists? Inexplicable? Intolerable.

I thank you all for your thought provoking comments. They’ve led me to ponder deep subjects today. The world in 2020 certainly seems upside down! I appreciate this blog and the opportunity that it provides me to air my thoughts.
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Thought to do some bedtime reading...
I don’t understand CatEyes’ comments at all! I know some “attackers””(?) are cited, but I find it tiresome to scroll past what may have been otherwise interesting.
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As I understand, if you and your siblings buy a DNA-test from My Heritage ( for example ) the result will not be the same. My brother could be more Swedish than I and I could be more Norwegian than him?
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Plantagenet! York! Tudor!

I am so excited by the possibilities!! Eager to share my DNA results with everyone so you know with whom you are dealing! I have Royal Blood. Respect is my inherited right. Under God, Queen, and Heaven.
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I have been thinking they were forced out of the RF too. 

The story and behavior doesn’t make sense the other way around, as if they voluntarily left and then their lack of planning screwed them over. Who quits a situation like that without a huge plan in place? 


I'm leaning that way, too, that they were forced out in some way.

I think the break in November December was them being told take some time off figure out what you want, in or out. Or maybe they crossed a line and were told to take some time off and think about if they wanted to be royals or not.

Or maybe they were told they were done being royals, take some time as a grace period to sort yourselves out before we announce that you're out.

And then they had to go and get cute with the manifesto, trying to force the Queen's hand. Like that was going to work.
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I am definitely thinking the RF gave them enough rope to hang themselves.

My theory is that after the Africa interview in September, HMTQ or reps had strong words with the two rogue Royals.

Being unable to correct themselves, nor issue a public apology as they are Narc, while continuing to play victim Megs then called up Katherine McPhee for an unassociated place to stay and told the RF they were taking a private holiday as it would 'be best' for a cooling-off period between parties, plus, No Work! Yay!

The RF had probably asked them to take time away, as they were a state on that interview, anyway.

The RF was obviously making plans to demote them, and Megs thought she one-upped the Queen with her 'Royal Branding Genius' LOL. Why else release such desperation?

Clearly, the RF wasn't going to play ball and iterated they were serious, no more games. In or Out, commit or leave.

This is why you see Harry taking it so hard in that speech sans-megs. He's never been serious in his life. He thought he had a lot of negotiations and time to get to the 'leave' outcome. It happened suddenly because of his stupid wife and the RF's smarts. Harry is not a confrontational person, so it hit him like a ton of bricks.

If you all notice, Meghan is not confrontational either. She cannot handle anyone, not even the Queen disagreeing with her. This is why she 'talks through friends'. So she can lie, deny, throw under the bus, fake her way, manipulate and deceive, and most importantly AVOID criticism of her crazy while STILL till her DYING breath be the next.....well....what? Oprah/Bezos/Gwyenth ...

The sad part is, it's so obvious she absolutely hates herself. I don't know what happened to her as a child, but she clearly hates herself and is incredibly uncomfortable in her life. For that, I hope she gets help. No one deserves to live with torment. But she also, cannot torment others, as she does.






Just curious about MM & H being removed from the royal family.

If so why the one year grace period? Is that just for H? I would think this constant drip drip drip from MM whilst still under the one year grace period is quite damaging to the RF. MM is attacking everyone, especially the Cambridges, and I doubt it will stop.

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Unknown said…
re: Waterstones

@Unknown Thanks for reminding me about Book Depository. I completely forgot about it because I stopped buying physical books. Book Depository was my go-to for UK editions of Agatha Christie. In general, I prefer U.K. editions to U.S. editions.

re: DNA testing

@Unknown @Rut In no way am I an expert but when I considered taking them myself, I passed. The reason being identical twins end up with different results when they have identical DNA. The ethnicity percentages they derive are based on the pool-sets of collected DNA they have. The results they give are saying that your DNA matches a percentage of people living in specific locations. I haven't looked into it recently, so my info could be wrong but here's a good article on the subject;

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/1/28/18194560/ancestry-dna-23-me-myheritage-science-explainer

I skim over all of the posts from CatEyes and 'Capital-U' Unknown ....

What is the story here? Why is there some strange fight spanning two forums (LSA). Can someone give a very brief rundown? And if true that one is impersonating another, how about the genuine account get a new name or email?

Sorry not sure how it works, but I would not tolerate it if I had relationships here.



I am not associated with Capital-U, Unknown, sorry.
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@unknown

You wrote that upthread about changing to lower case 'u'. LOL
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Meow........hisss......Unknown has sat too long in the litter box and stinks..Peeeeew Weeee!

Yeowwwwwwwwwwww Unknown is poopy stinky! Uhg stinks like skunk!
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Oh great another Cat Eyes!!!!
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Reowwwwwwwwwwwww Hisssssssssssss Unknown has lost the plot.

Unknown is really little unknown...an LSA stalker.... Remember xxxx is your litter box friend.

Go back to LSA Unknown. Hisssssssssssssssss
Unknown said…
@lizzie So true :) The subterfuge from H&M and all their "friends" is off-the-charts. How can anyone take anything they say at face value? The BRF had no choice but to cut them out before eroding all the public's "good faith" they depend on.
"GoodVibes Eternal said...

Just curious about MM & H being removed from the royal family.

If so why the one year grace period? Is that just for H? I would think this constant drip drip drip from MM whilst still under the one year grace period is quite damaging to the RF. MM is attacking everyone, especially the Cambridges, and I doubt it will stop."

Your guess is as good as mine. I have a guess.

1) The RF knows Harry is broke. They couldn't just dump him outside of Buckingham Palace and call it a day.
As another reader stated, in aristocratic families the wealth is put into trusts, and the beneficiaries only live off of the interest.
Which means a 20MM net worth placed in a trust, Harry would see ONLY about 400k per year in income (a generous 2% withdrawal rate). His personal income from his trust funds must float around that number. It's then past to Archie when he comes of age.

2) Meghan stated the public purse only contributed about 5% of their annual costs as a family. If I remember correctly, that amount is 250k, which puts their yearly outgoings at around 5MM. Charles contributed 4.75MM per year from the Duchy (his private funds) to support them while they were working Royals. - This is where her wardrobe came from.

At the time of the manifesto, the RF realized the duo were in financial freefall. They stepped in to save face for the entire RF and not look like they kicked them to the curb.

They are doing a very nice thing by giving them a year to figure out how to sustain and support themselves. Which is exactly what Meghan requested- Financial Independence.

The RF knows Meghan will divorce Harry before ever being forced back to the UK due to finances. Once the checks dry up and Harry has to buy a modest home in Encino, she will be gone.
When life gets tough in a freaking CASTLE look how she behaves.
There's no chance she can survive life getting tough in the real world with Prince Harry- even Katherine made fun of his immaturity. Every woman including Megs, wants a partner who can handle shit, and he can't handle anything. That's just what I'm seeing here.

I also don't think he cares. I think he's fine and will eventually go back to his granny. He loves the RF, and they married too quickly because she pushed him when Suits was ending/she was written off (idk and idc what happened to that show). I know of a few women who pushed men into marriage when their own source of income was drying up, and that's what happened here. It's always been about the money for Megs.




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I am Gollums Precious. I eat other bloggers. I turn into them.
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Unknown doesn't know she is me. I am Gollums Precious and I took over Unknown. Yum Yum.. Next I will eat unknown. I am now her too.
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@unknown,

"The RF knows Meghan will divorce Harry before ever being forced back to the UK due to finances. Once the checks dry up and Harry has to buy a modest home in Encino, she will be gone."


I agree she will divorce him not the other way around. MM & H are living off Charles' funding and still squatting here, there and everywhere. They really have squandered any goodwill they might have had. Hollywood is not going to be a moneyspinner even if projects start post Covid.

I would like to think that they will divorce soon but within the next year or two? I'm not sure. But then who knows with MM & H? I wonder if they are really living together in that TP house now. I always think whatever MM is spouting the opposite to be true.

CatEyes said…
I can't control how you act dear, you change screen names and personalities like you probably change the boob tube you're watching! But Bless Your Heart!

Maybe you should read a biology textbook and bone up on genetics.
I agree it's doubtful they are both living together. She has nanny, staff, and security.

The fact he videos the UK so often leads me to believe he has been flying on his own to the UK for different reasons. They do technically have Frogmore.

Harry has abandonment issues (clearly!, his therapist must be in tears) and will not divorce Megs.

She will do what she can with the young baby, support, and new connections (Oprah), and move on.

He honestly seems like a really lame guy to be married too, and she's been around the block, with a previous successful driven dashing husband. She knows what shes' missing.

Maybe an affair is what breaks this whole thing apart. Besides finances, she always thinks she's better than everyone anyway.
xxxxx said…
June 8, 2020 at 8:34 AM
An enlightening post by an unknown. There might be four unknowns here by now. Two Cateyes, with the new one on the scene being a worthy upgrade and replacement. For the dim bulb who harassed Elle to death.
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xxxxx said…
Quit catseye with your stupid lying avatar of justice. Invite Elle back for justice. Dumb cat coated with crap from last month's litter box.
Unknown said…
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CatEyes said…
@Unknown...I Found Tour New Lie!~!!
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Unknown said....
I am using "unknown" because she started trolling me and I'm still getting trolled!
June 8, 2020 at 1:55 AM

Then later you reversed yourself and said....
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Unknown said...

The lower case unknown is NOT me!

Click on her profile!
What is wrong with you?
I am completely mesmerized by your behavior here! It is absolutely bizarre.
June 8, 2020 at 9:51 AM <<<<<<<<<<


So it is your behavior that is absolutely bizarre!! Lying and too dysfunctional to remember tom keep your story straight.

This proves what I have been saying all along, she is more than one screen name. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???
If nothing else, the repercussions of events in LA that we've seen over this weekend emphasise why MM has been handled with kid gloves by the-family-she's-never-had.
xxxxx said…
To unknown---

You know it is the OG (original recipe) Catseye posting when she is lashing out at various posters for being Elle in disguise. Crazy paranoia much like Megs.
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CatEyes said…
@Unknown and alterego 'xxxxx' and variious permutations

I am beautiful, I am educated and I am probably everything you are not. Sorry Honey, but you can't be me. You fixate on me because you are eaten up with jealousy. It's not a good look.

Oh I think it is my education that really sticks in your craw; as you stated you have a "background in psychology" which usually means you aren't a psychologist, you are just a wanna-be. Hence why you so frequently mention psych labels when your alter ego talks (xxxxx).

Your reading comprehension is at a 5th grade level at best. Your vocabulary is very elementary also as I have never seen you write any sophisticated words that would denote an excellent education.

And you are also jealous of the fact that I am a farmer by trying to make fun and discount what I have achieved. Get a life for yourself, instead of writing on a blog, go to college.

You attack me like what a child would do, by calling names and bullying.

I heard 😘Elle got banned. I warned her. 😁

What sad little people you are.😎
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