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Meghan and Black Lives Matter

The Duchess of Sussex has commented on the recent Black Lives Matter protests in a videotaped graduation speech to the high school she once attended.

This link includes the video and the transcript of her address.

What do you think of Meghan speaking out to support BLM?

Comments

Kate said…
I think it’s a little late, everyone has already spoken out.

Also, her acting was really lame. Indon’t think she sounded heartfelt or believable.
Mischief Girl said…
I think she was supposed to give a graduation speech, which are supposed to celebrate the students' achievements. She didn't smile once. It became all about her within seconds.

Disgusting. Fake emoting. Fake, fake, fake. Wrong platform, wrong time, if she wanted to speak out on BLM.

You should see the comments on the Royal Family Channel on YouTube (where the video was cut off part way through!) Even on a pro-BRF channel, many commentors don't want to hear from her.

She is, as usual, disgracefully playing recent public events to shine the spotlight on herself.
Unknown said…
I focused on her facial expressions instead of the word salad and the lack of emotion was jarring.
Pantsface said…
Why is she wittering on again about her personal experience of the LA riots when she was "11 or 12"? Surely you would know how old you were? As the riots took place in Apri/May 1992, she would have been 8 years old if her 1984 birthdate is to be believed. Unlesss there were further riots of which I am unaware, Anyway, the whole performance was nauseating and said little about the students it was performed for.
Acting, acting, acting.

Using a tragedy to draw more attention to herself.

Dragging RF into political arena.

A suggestion: if she dares show her face in the uK again, the crowd, rather than booing her, should shout out `How's Archie?'
If she then has a meltdown, `snarl and go ballistic', the chances are it'd be caught on camera and she would have revealed herself to the world.
lucy said…
I don't feel right in commenting on speech as I didn't make it past one minute mark,just here so I get all the comments in my inbox :)
Sarah said…
Meghan reads the daily mail and saw their article on her silence.
Piroska said…
@Pantsface She was orn in 1981 not 1984 she is 39 in August
Comment in DM on video - She pauses after every sentence as though she is waiting or applause
lizzie said…
@Pantsface,

I think her birthday is in 1981 so when the King riots occurred in spring 1992 she would have been 10. Not sure why she said she was 11 or 12. It could be (despite evidence to the contrary) her birth year is earlier than 1981. Or it could be she wanted to claim in the speech (as she did) she was about to start school at Immaculate Heart so admitting she was 10 wouldn't work. In casual conversation one might not remember an exact age when an event occurred. But it's easy to look at when historical events occurred and figure it out for a speech. I agree it's odd.
Unknown said…
LOL @Piroska :) I was wondering what all those pauses Meg was making were about. I thought I had a bad internet connection. Seeing it again with those INTENTIONAL pauses is bizarre. That undercuts any emotionality she tried to convey. Her face was very cold the whole time.
Maneki Neko said…
As usual, she has to make it about her: 'And I remember my teacher at the time, one of my teachers, Ms. Pollia, said to me before I was leaving for a day of volunteering, "Always remember to put other’s needs above your own fears." '
My italics. Why did she need to mention 'a day of volunteering' at the age of 15 if not to show us she was already a humanitarian?? And the irony of putting 'other's (others', surely? Wrong apostrophe) needs above your own fears'.

I didn't watch the video, btw, I couldn't stomach it, I just read the transcript.

I'm surprised she did not use bananas as props with thoughtful messages: you are loved, you are strong etc.
Kate said…
The pauses were really weird! I think that was her way of trying to sound serious!

If she had to make a graduation speech, she should have done 2 separate videos. One to speak about BLM and the other to speak to the graduated without a stone-cold face. Not sure what they could have gotten out of that pathetic display for attention!!

And where is Harry??? I still don’t think they are actually together.
xxxxx said…
This is Megs' current/up to date highlights reel/audition reel for interested Hollywood parties to check out. In my book all lives matter, looking at her transcript it not overly awful or dumb. It can pass for something another Hollywood actress would say on another day or three days ago. Salad or not, her words are the Hollywood norm.

Her acting as presented here is a flat 1 out of 10. Maybe good enough for the new nacho cheese flavor Doritos commercial on TV. Selling this along with a new Prince Dip.
Significant Pauses, gazing upwards at the Heavens - was she trying to make us believe that she was communing with the Divine?

That she is the new Voice of God?
Pantsface said…
Thanks @Lizzie re MM's DOB, don't know where I got 1984 from ? I stand corrected :)
Maneki Neko said…
@Kate

Her pauses are for effect, à la Tony Blair. If you've never heard him make a speech, do. Very theatrical.
Starry said…
Inappropriate for a graduation speech.

Not the time or place for this. And agreed, she always finds a way to make it about her. She hijacked an important day for these girls to further her agenda.

Speaking out sooner about BLM, to a wide/global audience, would have made more sense.

I feel sorry for the students. If I were one of them, I'd be feeling discouraged - the opposite of what a grad speech should inspire.
abbyh said…
I watch without the sound so I am not distracted by verbal.

Staring at the camera (looking sincere), blinking, eyebrows, continues steady stare, starting to do some look aways, body shifts in a lean away and then forward while doing some look away,
hands together moving up and down, more look away into the distance, and that was all in the first minute.

Whomever said "audition tape" nailed it.

My personal feeling is that unless you are offering concrete suggestions on how to fix the "problem" (whatever this problem is) or this is an intimate directly effecting you or a close family member, you are just social media noise.

Snippy said…
Too early/before coffee to watch the vid, but why does the clip on the DM look like it was filmed through 8 layers of Saran Wrap?? Is there some filter I’m unaware of called “Vaseline effect” like they used to use on camera lenses in the 1960s?
CookieShark said…
I believe she only spoke out because accounts on social media were beginning to call her out directly.

It's very Meghan, she gives a speech, and makes it about herself and her experiences. Her statement that her words might be "picked apart" is full of contempt and typical MM, which sounds like her usual complaints. A poised, affluent public figure like Michelle Obama would never start of an important message with moaning. It sounds like the recent quote about Kate being a "CEO wheeled out" or her laments that the palace would defend Kate when she "snapped her fingers." I think at baseline MM experiences intense rage, and it leaks through when she speaks.

It's directed towards youth, which it always is for MM. I wonder if she contacted the school and offered to give the speech, since she attended there. I have found it interesting that she constantly targets younger people and "love bombs" them by showering them with compliments.

I don't know if she avoids her peers or people older than her because she knows we can sniff her out, but it's noticeable.

Much has been said about how MM "has her own money," and how wealthy Harry is. Why aren't they donating?
Jenx said…
@Starry totally agree. I also didn't get past one minute of the video. The lack of authentic emotion is deeply unsettling. I am starting to get a visceral reaction when I see her face. Borderline repulsion.

She had proven to be a divisive force and nothing she can "emote" can change that.

She is a fraud and a terrible actor to boot.

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/06/03/reflections-of-the-sussex-legacy/
MaLissa said…
lucy said...
I don't feel right in commenting on speech as I didn't make it past one minute mark,just here so I get all the comments in my inbox :)
June 4, 2020 at 3:50 PM


Good morning Nutty and Nutties!! I didn't make it past the one minute mark either so I just read the transcript. OH MY!! If I'd have gotten that speech at my graduation ceremony I'd have thought "what a dipshit talking about herself and patting herself on the back". She didn't inspire, she talked about HERSELF!! She didn't encourage to "go where no one has gone before", she talked about HERSELF!!

So tired of this woman who only thinks to boast about how she did this, how she did that and not really addressing the issue at hand which is being an inspiration and a role model to graduating high school students and to have them aspire to something better/loftier than they could ever imagine.

As for BLM - since she doesn't really identify as black, I don't know why she even bothered mentioning it. Because after she mentioned all those people, she talked about HERSELF!

Ah well, what do I know, I'm not a public speaker.

Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Significant Pauses, gazing upwards at the Heavens - was she trying to make us believe that she was communing with the Divine?

That she is the new Voice of God?
June 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM


I don't know about that but when I watched it again, just now actually WITHOUT sound, she never looks directly into the camera which is unusual because she LOVES the camera and can spot one a mile away. No sincerity, no emotion, no nothing in that speech. I mean doesn't she have to look at "you" (as in her audience) directly while speaking? As I said, I'm not a public speaker but eye contact is important - in person or in video. Just my 2 cents.
Jdubya said…
Haven't read other comments yet - 1st thought was she looked good. Looks like her own hair is growing out although she still have some sort of fake pony tail thingy. Her make up was nice. She was dressed nice. The speech itself - she does have a nice speaking voice when she doesn't try to over-emphasize things. It's obvious she practiced in front of a mirror or camera and her mannerisms seemed well rehearsed.

the speech itself, didn't seem very appropriate for graduation. She shouldn't have made it about herself - her alledged experiences. (I personally don't think she saw people running out of buildings stealing stuff on her way home from school).

Overall, i wasn't very impressed.
luxem said…
The US mags are calling this a "surprise" commencement speech. That makes me think she contacted the school this week and said she had video to share with the graduates and then sent it to every news outlet! She managed to jump on two bandwagons at once - virtual commencement speeches by celebs meant to honor graduates and George Floyd protests - and made both about Meghan Markle.
Jdubya said…
Saw LSA mention how she stole a partial quote from a TV show - found it

“We’re petrified of saying too much or saying it wrong. When the truth is, the only wrong thing you can say is nothing at all.”
— Dr. Jackson Avery, Grey's Anatomy, Season 13: Who Is He
Sandie said…
I wonder:

Was she invited to give this speech? Or did she/her PR make it happen for her?

If so, when was this speech arranged? They were so secretive about being in LA until the pap walks so supposedly everyone thought they were in Canada (but I suppose with lockdown the speech was always going to be done remotely).

By the way, I find the fuss made about finishing school strange. Even though it is a big achievement in my country, we do not have a graduation ceremony nor do we have a famous person (or anyone else) give a speech. In fact, your exam results are not available when you finish school so you leave hoping that you won't have to go back, and most do not (the certificate gets posted to you). I suppose the USA really is the land of the celebrity. (How do we celebrate? There is a farewell dance but that happens in the middle of the school year, before exams start, and after leaving school on that last day, most kids go somewhere together for a weekend of partying.)

Anyway, what has she achieved? Had a supporting role in Suits. That is not a big achievement in Hollywood. Married Prince Harry. Wow, that is inspiring for girls in the modern world. But maybe in the context of Hollywood she is the ultimate achiever because she became one of the most famous women in the world and it does not matter what she did to get there or what her character or personal achievements actually are. A shallow celebrity in a shallow world? Methinks I am insulting people of huge talent who do work in Hollywood.

It was a typical Meghan speech and she made the most of the opportunity. In a way it was her audition tape for Hollywood. Can she act? Can she carry a project? Can she make lots of money for producers and funders of movies? Is she still trying to sell herself as a global humanitarian and if so, was this speech enough to get the donors interested enough to open their wallets?

I really tried to watch and listen to the whole thing but I find her voice so annoying that I could not get through it. Thanks to those who did and are sharing here.
Fairy Crocodile said…
The most pampered victim ever.
luxem said…
On the topic of racism. I can't help but notice that Meghan has spent her entire relationship with Haz talking about racism. The two of them have spent about a year "teasing" us with their plans for a charity/nonprofit/for-profit organization that will "be meaningful" "do good in the world" etc. but have nothing to show, except a name. Had these two actually put boots on the ground and created an anti-racism non-profit, which they claim is so important to them, rather than causing chaos everywhere they go, they could have been in line to accept donations from the major corporations like DIsney, Apple, Netflix, who are all dumping money into anti-racism organizations. Between the pandemic and this lack of action, it does seem like the universe is putting her in line!
CatEyes said…
I was most struck by how her words illustrate what a hypocrite she is.

She urges the students to have compassion, empathy and use 'their voice' for change but that is exactly what she didn't do herself, in the UK. She never showed empathy or compassion for the BRF or the UK public. She didn't stay and use her voice to counter the perceived wrongs within the Monarchy or the racist UK public.

No she ran like a coward and couldn't be bothered 'to put the needs first' of the aforementioned 'before her own fears' (as her borrowed quote suggests). What a transparent loser!
Jdubya said…
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a32764460/meghan-markle-graduation-video-address-george-floyd/


Both Meghan and Prince Harry have been quietly having meetings behind the scenes with people on all levels to make sure they are educated and connected to the issues of police brutality and the Black Lives Matter movement.

"Harry and Meghan have been having private conversations with community leaders and people at every level, as well as friends and family, about this issue since the start of recent events," a source tells BAZAAR of the Sussexes recent efforts. "By speaking to as many people and organizations as possible, it has been a way for them to feel connected to everything that's going on and learn more about the issues surrounding it."
@Snippy
Too early/before coffee to watch the vid, but why does the clip on the DM look like it was filmed through 8 layers of Saran Wrap?? Is there some filter I’m unaware of called “Vaseline effect” like they used to use on camera lenses in the 1960s?

I noticed that too, at first I thought there was some sort of screen or glass between her and the camera (OCD social distancing from the camera operator maybe?), then it occurred to me that it looked like a reflection on a tv screen, almost as if someone had recorded it while it was playing on tv. I hadn't thought of filters until you mentioned it.
KnitWit said…
How inappropriate!

She looks better than ever. Face, hair are benefitting from access to Hollywood makeover artists.

She is directing her energies in the wrong direction. Her problem is psychological, not physical. She needs intensive therapy!

She is a terrible speech writer and even worse actress! Hands over her heart looking toward heaven? Vomiting inducing!

She shouldn't have been chosen as a graduation speaker. Mm is famous because of who she married. What does this say to young girls? How empowering - you are what you marry. The school should have said the tape is inappropriate.

A biracial woman who has "passed" as white, with the help of plastic surgery, suddenly speaks for black Americans?

Perhaps if she let her hair grow naturally ( if she has any hair left under the wig) and spoke honestly about her life. Perhaps her personal conflicts mirrored society's conflicts. She passed as white because it was easier, more lucrative. Perhaps she has regrets. What does she think about life for her son/children.

Maybe I misunderstood her speech. Maybe she sees herself as the martyr. The black woman "killed" by the racism of the monarchy. She lives but doesn't thrive. Poor misunderstood Meghan. As if anyone buys that phony narrative.

I am not convinced Harry, Meghan and Archie are living together in LA. Meghan's existence is shrouded in lies and artifice. She tries to polish her image, but creates doubt instead. If the "happy family" is in LA, How ridiculous. They can live anywhere in the world, yet choose to be in a city suffering from a pandemic and race riots.

How tragic. The Sussexes gave up the support of the royal family for what?
Unbeweaveable said…
I feel sorry for Meghan because I think she was pressured into making the commencement speech about racial tension. This isn’t her brand, she is not authentic when she talks about pain or trauma, and she never publicly calls out or addresses racism; it also doesn’t help that in the 2013 video the DM ran again, her framing on racism was that she passed for white so well that her most hurtful memory was hearing somebody call her mother a racial slur. I‘m sure she’s experienced micro-aggressions and witnessed plenty of discrimination, but she’s spent decades pretending these problems don’t apply to her. Her two options were to do what Halsey did, or to say nothing substantive and hope she doesn’t get blasted for being tone deaf.

Having said that...feel free to celebrate women (maybe Black women) when you’re speaking to an all-girls school, Meghan.

it’s very odd that she keeps turning events into personal platforms. Reading for a charity became Archie’s birthday video, speaking at a private event became Meghan’s Thoughts On Racism that SS immediately released to Essence magazine. She needs to crank up another Instagram account and stop hijacking events to get her messages out.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@KnitWit you're back!! 💜💜

We were so worried about you at the Virus blog...

Hope you're doing well!

Take care, stay safe & healthy.
CookieShark said…
She plagairzed from Grey's Anatomy.

It's all over Twitter.
KnitWit said…
Her doppleganger stylist is taking a week off social media " to educate herself" too.

I picture the two "ladies" seated at a table piled high with white powder sniffing and blathering. Two surgically enhanced coke wh@#$ pretending to give a bleep about humanity.

It is clear that both are empty shells of women, useless except as cautionary tales of what not to be.
KnitWit said…
Thank you, Scandi. I have been bouncing around FL. Unlike Meghan, I don't have any millionaire friends with empty mansions. I'll pop back on the virus blog.
I have just forced myself to watch this. All I could see was Rachel Zane giving it her all with dramatic gestures and completely devoid of any sincere emotion. It is plainly too much, too late. Yes, it is true that she is damned if she did and damned if she didn’t give a speech, but her whole demeanor was listen to ME and not to the message.

I did like the fact she named a lot of the people who have been killed because they were the “wrong” colour. I compare this with Kutcher’s comments from a couple of days ago and it was cold, detached, rehearsed and insincere. Someone who destroys families should hold back on commenting on the losses of other families imo.

Also, yet another scenario where PH is absent and not even mentioned. No “Harry and I are devastated by...” It’s high time BP cleared up what is going on. They must be scared of something.
@JDubya “We’re petrified of saying too much or saying it wrong. When the truth is, the only wrong thing you can say is nothing at all.”
— Dr. Jackson Avery, Grey's Anatomy, Season 13

Good catch!
Humor Me said…
I just can't.
This from a woman who traded on her POC only when it suited her.
I am disgusted.
moz said…
A wise DM reviewer named Point Three revealed that Meghan is once again stealing qoutes.

She's repeating a quote from Grey's Anatomy - "Were petrified of saying too much or saying it wrong. When the truth is, the only wrong thing you can say is nothing at all. Doctor Jackson Avery
Sandie said…
"Harry and Meghan have been having private conversations with community leaders and people at every level, as well as friends and family, about this issue since the start of recent events," a source tells BAZAAR of the Sussexes recent efforts. "By speaking to as many people and organizations as possible, it has been a way for them to feel connected to everything that's going on and learn more about the issues surrounding it."

I pity Doria and the friends the Sussexes have left. I have no doubt that Meghan has been going on and on in non-stop phone calls, with Harry chipping in (to the annoyance of his wife ... cue pained look as in the one she gave when Archie dropped that book) to try and say something meaningful and relevant. Never has so much word salad been served.

Hands up to those organizations and people in positions of authority and otherwise who have been talking to Meghan. At this important time of crisis you took the time out to talk to Meghan? Why? How was that helpful to you or to anyone else? Really, these people need to be exposed so that if they are public servants, voters can decide if they stil want them to serve.

Meghan and Harry have no public role or position, elected or unelected. If they have rabid fans who wanted them to say or do something they should have done it on a social media platform with fans as followers. In my opinion, to hijack a media outlet that serves the black population to get publicity was calculated and was a new low.
CatEyes said…
A poster said...

>>>I feel sorry for Meghan because I think she was pressured into making the commencement speech about racial tension.<<<

I am sorely disappointed that Immaculate Heart invited/allowed Meghan to make the commencement speech. I say this as a lifelong Catholic and having sent my children to parochial school through H.S. Meghan is not the role model that the school should have had for the girls to listen to and look up to. A woman who is famous for her lurid sex scenes in Suits, promiscuity and alleged yachting activities. Maybe it's the repentive sinner angle they were going for lol, but then again Meg is not the epitome of Christian love what with the way she treats her father and Harry's family. If I had a child at the school, I would make known my extreme dissatisfaction and threaten to take my child out if Meghan is ever invited again. Shame on the school but bigger blame resides with Meghan who cares not a wit about the girls other than she had an opportunity to show her fake face and even faker emotions. PS. Looks like she acquired a new Himalayan Yak hair wig!
Blithe Spirit said…
Sorry I couldn't bring myself to watch the video. Her fake expressions grate on my soul and today I want to be kind to myself. Thanks to the generous Nutties who saw it and reported back here. Seems like the usual Meghan ploy to talk about herself via a serious issue. I'll give her credit for mentioning the names of people killed.

Did anyone catch the DM story on how Kate is devastated good friend, EIC of Tatler okayed the kill piece? With friends like these who needs enemies?
JHanoi said…
haven’t sen it yet. is it for the little red school house graduates? or for that Ivy League she was tbegging for a freebie Doctorate diploma?

as pointed out earlier, the DM had something on her getting called out for not commenting yet, so she came out with a statement.
maybe her statement should have includd, “i lied and i do scour the internet for all comments, articles, and media attention about me me me me me“.
I’m not watching it, it’s all PR and nothing is ever sincere with her. Ex royal or not she should keep out of politics. :o/
Princess Mrs. B said…
I didn't dare watch the video as I had just eaten and that would be risky, however, I did read the transcript. If this was meant to be a Commencement Address it was a very poor one indeed. How about confining her remarks to the accomplishments of the graduates and encouraging them to go out into the world and be the best that they can be? Period. If she feels the need to speak out on another subject, by all means do so, but save it for another time. Wasn't it bad enough for these young women that their Senior year was cut short and that they didn't get a traditional graduation? Zip it, Meg.
lizzie said…
@Blithe Spirit wrote:

"Did anyone catch the DM story on how Kate is devastated good friend, EIC of Tatler okayed the kill piece? With friends like these who needs enemies?"

As previously discussed on the last thread, Dennen went to St Andrews with Kate and had tried in the past to appear to be her friend. But he wasn't even invited to her huge wedding. Hardly likely IMO he's a good friend even if he wasn't an open fan of MM's.
Aquagirl said…
I honestly cannot stand to see her face or listen to her voice. She just grates on my nerves. I watched about the first 30 seconds—she is looking everywhere except at the camera and she’s definitely merching her bracelets. Notice how she said ‘I’ve been planning....’ at the beginning? So was she asked to give a speech or did she decide that she was going to do it? I read the transcript and the whole part about her doing volunteer work in her sophomore year is so self-serving, not to mention patently untrue, because she has no values in her life and she doesn’t care about anyone except herself. I also thought that this was not an appropriate commencement speech. A woman who has spent her life passing for White is telling 18-year-olds that they have to Rebuild, Rebuild, Rebuild? WTF? Just no.
Lucky Dog said…
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Fifi LaRue said…
Two long scratches with my right paw and my left paw for the looking all over for the fly buzzing inside and outside her head and the dead woodland animal tail draped over her neck. Reoowww! Kitty has hissed.
PaulaMP said…
I knew it would all be about her, me, me, me and I, I, I. She is a truly awful actress, never once has she been convincing.
Piroska said…
I see that Omid is now claiming to be a victim of racism; says this caused loss of his first job in journalism when he was 20. Apparently fear has previously prevented him from speaking out
Grisham said…
It’s also a bastardized quote drin teddy roosevelt:

In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

Theodore Roosevelt
Platypus said…
There is another new Harry Markle addressing this speech.
just sayin' said…
She is SUCH a copy cat!!!

She studied the widely acclaimed viral video essay by Trevor Noah!! HE pauses in thought. HE looks upward.

SHE copies!! Nothing original or heartfelt about MM.
Unbeweaveable said…
@CatEyes, I’m the one who feels sorry for her. She was only a famous alumna after she and H got together, maybe the nuns don’t watch Suits. Nobody else did either.

Given that commencement activities are planned in advance, Meghan would not be a last-minute addition. She was probably planning to do a 6 minute monologue on how we’re all gonna get through the coronavirus by being kind and doing yoga, with a few plugs for Archewell, and had to scrap everything now that cities are literally burning.

Regarding her and Harry having conversations at every level: pick up a goddamn book or newspaper and teach yourself, you privileged wankers. Nobody wants to spend their energy this week explaining institutionalized racism while you nod seriously. Meghan’s proxies have been complaining about this incessantly, surely she herself can do the emotional labor to educate her prince.
Teasmade said…
Well, I wanted do this but not if I had to watch the video to do so: How many times did M use the word "I" (I've, I'm, me)?

Someone just posted this on Twitter: 37 times. In, what was it--five minutes?
Lily Love said…
MM doesn’t care about anybody but herself. There does need to be police reform, but it is a multifaceted problem. Police need better training, there needs to be more consequences for cops. But more people also need to take responsibility for their bad behavior that leads to bad outcomes.
Louise said…
This video is all over the media in Canada. After years of trying to pass as white, she finally discovers that the money maker is posing as black.
Louise said…
just 'sayin: There were so many pauses that I thought that there was a problem with the sound or that the video was stuck.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@louise

I would say her foray into politics has just eliminated the tiny chance for her to try and come back into the royal fold. Royals can not afford being associated with activism.

I believe they may even sacrifice Harry to avoid a bigger disaster. Given a choice between losing one member or losing the future the Crown will cut the person.

If not...well, everything comes to end sometime. If British royalty lost survival instinct it's time is over.
Bennie said…
I am so darn sick of this evil thing!!!! Will she ever go away?!? What will it take to bring her down?!? I'm beginning to think she's never going to go away!!! What have you done Farry???
Hikari said…
KnitWit,

She is directing her energies in the wrong direction. Her problem is psychological, not physical. She needs intensive therapy!

She is a terrible speech writer and even worse actress! Hands over her heart looking toward heaven? Vomiting inducing!

She shouldn't have been chosen as a graduation speaker. Mm is famous because of who she married. What does this say to young girls? How empowering - you are what you marry. The school should have said the tape is inappropriate.

A biracial woman who has "passed" as white, with the help of plastic surgery, suddenly speaks for black Americans?

Perhaps if she let her hair grow naturally ( if she has any hair left under the wig) and spoke honestly about her life. Perhaps her personal conflicts mirrored society's conflicts. She passed as white because it was easier, more lucrative. Perhaps she has regrets. What does she think about life for her son/children.

Maybe I misunderstood her speech. Maybe she sees herself as the martyr. The black woman "killed" by the racism of the monarchy. She lives but doesn't thrive. Poor misunderstood Meghan. As if anyone buys that phony narrative.

I am not convinced Harry, Meghan and Archie are living together in LA. Meghan's existence is shrouded in lies and artifice. She tries to polish her image, but creates doubt instead. If the "happy family" is in LA, How ridiculous. They can live anywhere in the world, yet choose to be in a city suffering from a pandemic and race riots.

How tragic. The Sussexes gave up the support of the royal family for what?


I reproduce most of your post because it was excellent. Nailed Meghan exactly. I don't think Meg is capable of 'regrets' except insofar as they impact her $$$$$. Regrets for her behavior and her own choices is unknown to her . . she will always find a way to blame others.

I still have not had the stomach to watch that video. Gonna need a barf bag handy.
Maisie said…
Perhaps this is an oversimplification of a larger world problem, but what we have here is a narcissist trying to recruit and align her herd. MM's activities will always be about her and for her own benefit.

In addition, narcs are typically emotional black holes, there is never enough for them. Never enough money, power, fame, adoration, love... Get sucked into their orbit and they will consume you.

Envy is another driver of her behaviors. The attacks on Catherine stem from not having a mother growing up, especially a mother like Carole Middleton. (I have seen this type of envy before in my husband's family, a low income, single parent father sent daughter to private schools who in turn has a chip on her shoulder for what she didn't have, rather than being grateful for what she does.)

Life would be so much easier if we all had resourced professional, attentive, polished parents as mentors, and much of the world's problems are rooted in the fact that we don't.

Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lily Love

It has been known for some time that people of African and Caribbean descent suffer from the syndrome which can kill if the flow of oxygen to their brain is restricted.

There has been a campaign in UK to train the police forces to prevent this happening during restraining of people from these backgrounds. It worked and now syndrome associated deaths during police arrests are rare in UK.

I don't know if such training program exists in the USA or if this problem is acknowledged, but this would be a good place to start. Worked in UK, will work in US too.

Markle's appearances are designed to try and give her significance where none is due, she is only barely visible because of her ongoing association with royals. By herself she is zero. We can see that and other people can see that too.

just sayin' said…
I’m also going to call bs on MM’s claim that I’m the ‘92 riots she saw looters carrying bags. What?! Looters don’t carry shopping bags. They don’t stop to bag the items they are grabbing. This anecdote shows that her “riot” story is pure fiction!
Lily Love said…
@Fairy crocodile
They need to overhaul how they train officers here in the US. I think they need longer and better training. They also need to put pressure on these police unions to make it easier to get rid of bad cops and arrest bad cops. The vast majority of people of who work in law enforcement are good people though. They just need to stand up and do their part to push out the bad ones, but by not doing that they part of the problem.
Aquagirl said…
@Fairy, @Lily: Yes, that is part of training in the US, and cops are specifically taught not to do neck holds with either their arm or their knee.
Unbeweaveable said…
@Fairy Crocodile, did you just call asphyxiation “a syndrome that affects people of African and Caribbean descent?” Because there syndrome will kill me too, and I’m lily white.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Aquagirl, Lily Love

"Yes, that is part of training in the US, and cops are specifically taught not to do neck holds with either their arm or their knee".

Then what that policeman did is beyond comprehension. And the rest of them stood and did nothing too? And all because Floyd tried to pay with a fake banknote, perhaps even unknowingly?

Am I missing something?

This is such a disturbing and terrifying story it makes Meghan's attempted PR on the back of it even more disgusting. The best thing she could have done if she was desperate to say something is to offer her deepest condolences privately to the family and avoid any further noises.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Unbeveabale

Sorry I can't remember the name of the syndrome, I have read about it in the book recently. The point is - in people from these backgrounds even the slight restriction in the flow of oxygen to the brain may cause respiratory collapse, something that you and I will probably survive because we do not have it.

I will try to find the medical term.
Sandie said…
@Fairy Crocodile said...
@Lily Love

It has been known for some time that people of African and Caribbean descent suffer from the syndrome which can kill if the flow of oxygen to their brain is restricted.

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And what syndrome would that be? I am African and have never heard of it.

Are you trying to say that black people are likely to die if blood flow to the brain is restricited? And that this is actually a known medical syndrome?

Sounds very strange to me.

What is it about African and Caribbean people (or people of African and Caribbean descent) that makes them more susceptible? What is this syndrome called? (By the way, you do know that black people in the Caribbean are originally from Africa and they got to the Caribbean through slavery?)
Aquagirl said…
@Fairy: Yes, totally beyond comprehension.

The worst part about MM’s speech (besides everything) was the timing. It was released today, the day of George Floyd’s funeral.
Sandie said…
@Fairy Crocodile said...
@Unbeveabale

Sorry I can't remember the name of the syndrome, I have read about it in the book recently. The point is - in people from these backgrounds even the slight restriction in the flow of oxygen to the brain may cause respiratory collapse, something that you and I will probably survive because we do not have it.

I will try to find the medical term.

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Please do find the medical term for this syndrome. It may be difficult as you 'read about it in the book recently' and do not seem to remeber which book that was.

Gosh, I am African and have never noticed people collapsing and dying because of the syndrome.

I do not know who the orignal person who posted this is, but you are talking absolute nonsense. Please stop.

Inform yourself. The man who died, had a police officer kneeling on his neck for more than 8 minutes. That he was in huge distress had nothing with him being black. Any human being would have been in distress and I admire the man for surviving 8 minutes. His actual death happened after he was removed from the street and what happened has o been fully divulged and there were no bystanders filming the actual death.
This is the woman whom a Catholic high school admin thought was appropriate to address her graduating seniors? I find this incomprehensible:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS698US698&sxsrf=ALeKk02Aec7jJ3MT_6DxcYoHgSAkd7aKOQ:1591295027328&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=photo+meghan+markle+french+maid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQn9j24-jpAhWEuZ4KHX_TCksQ420oCnoECAoQGA&biw=875&bih=403

What does MM have to offer to these young, impressionable girls? That getting semi-naked in slutty costumes is the way make your life a success? That using your body, rather than your mind, is what these girls should do to succeed? That cruelly and publicly disowning your loving parent and getting your husband to disown his is the Christian thing to do? That using a series of men to move up the ladder is acceptable? That talking about me, me, me, and always trying to be the center of attention is the way to live good and kind life? That lying is OK? That disrespecting The Queen is acceptable? That trying to get as much money as possible without doing anything except marry a prince is what young girls should strive to do? That discarding and ghosting old friends when they are of no further use to you is acceptable? That throwing hot pots of tea at a person is OK? That throwing tantrums when you don't get your way is acceptable? That publicly grubbing for tens millions of dollars from your father-in-law and three countries, with no limits to what you will do for that money, is a goal for these young women?

I could continue with this lengthy list, but my point is that no school should ever place MM as a role model to children and young adults. It is abhorrent, and the school's admin should be taken to task by the parents who have paid for a quality Catholic education.
Henrietta said…
Fairy Crocodile said...

@louise

I would say her foray into politics has just eliminated the tiny chance for her to try and come back into the royal fold. Royals can not afford being associated with activism.


I just came on to say something similar. If this very political speech doesn't get her title yanked, nothing will.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Unbeveabale

"Sorry I can't remember the name of the syndrome"

Found it, it is called a sikcle-cell trait.

"In fact, sickle-cell trait sufferers should avoid all situations where there may be any threat of oxygen deprivation at all, so as well as climbing high mountains, that includes scuba diving, parachuting … and being forcefully restrained...Sickle-cell disease is the UK’s fastest growing genetic disorder. It is carried by millions of people worldwide, mostly of African or Caribbean origin. Those who suffer from it are more likely to survive malaria (not very useful in metropolitan London).It is caused by a mutation in the haemoglobin gene and haemoglobin’s vital function is to transport oxygen around the body".

So, it is a well known fact that African and Caribbean people may be especially vulnerable to restraints, and this is what makes Floyd's case so terrifying.

Shepherd, Richard. Unnatural Causes (pp. 202-203). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.

Shepherd, Richard. Unnatural Causes (p. 202). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.

Ye Gods - it's even worse than Tony Blair trying to convince us he's the Messiah - it's a parody of his People`s Princess speech after the death of Diana.

There are several versions on You Tube, all of which have URLs that give my machine indigestion. Just Google `Blair's Diana Speech'

On a lighter note, the impressionist John Culshaw on radio (`Dead Ringers') used to make fun of TB's delivery by including what he thought Blair's stage directions were, as `asides'. I can't find an example online but this `phone call' gives you some idea and has a sting in the tail:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p02nw39t
Fairy Crocodile said…
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@Sandie

You are entitled to your own opinion. I did find the name of the syndrome and the source of the information and you are welcome to educate yourself too, as I did after reading about it.

The Sickle - Cell Trait and the book is Unnatural Causes by Richard Shepherd.

Police should have been especially cautious with Floyd precisely because people can die even in mild restraint. According to Hematology org. up to 10% of the African-Americans in USA suffer from this condition.

I find especially disturbing that the presumably well trained and well aware policemen could do what they did, with much force applied for a long time, to a person from the background known to be potentially especially vulnerable, when even a mild pressure can kill.
Aquagirl said…
@Fairy: They shouldn’t be doing it to anyone! It was barbaric.
Sandie said…
I wached the video (mickey mouse badge for that!). She does get lost in her word salad, and like most people says things because they sound good rather than because they make sense.

She just needs some voice training, a good script and ensemble of actors and she could probably do well in a 'soap' drama created with her in mind. I would create a character very close to her and have a story line of her moving back to her hometown of LA after a divorce and starting over, and all the trials and tribulations around that, and I would keep the character close to her (word salad, narcissistic, takes offence easily, ghosts family and old friends and exes - gosh that alone would create interesting story lines - hates having to deal with the ex but has to because of the kid ...).

She is looking much better than she has done for a long time (and, yes, the 'blurring' tool on Zoom certainly helps!).

By the way, she completely ignores Covid-19. When I think back to myself when I finished school, Covid-19 is what would have scared me (the racism issue inspired me to become a revolutionary to change the world when I left school, and I didn't have or need a Meghan to preach to me about that). I would hope that young people would be inspired to become health care workers, and scientists, and environmentalists, and lead humanity in the future as we face the threat of other viruses and diseases, and so on. The speech was also made in the week that the USA got back into space travel again (sending people into space from the USA) and through a partnership with the private sector.

Her speech did not have a sense of history about it but I am expecting far too much of her and no doubt somewhere in the USA someone is making that speech that defines the history of this time for people to remember in the future.
Sandie said…
Palate cleanser?

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a32768260/sophie-wessex-kate-middleton-coronavirus-photo-project/

Sophie, Countess of Wessex submits a photo of a volunteer putting together food parcels for Catherine's Hold Still photogrpahy project.
I'd have thought anyone of any origin with a cop pinning them down by the neck could die of any number of causes - broken neck, compression of the windpipe (suffocation), compression of carotid arteries, to name but a few.

Sickle cell disease is an interesting condition, caused by a recessive gene which is inherited in a straightforward Mendelian way, like cystic fibrosis, and anyone with 2 copies of the gene (homozygous) has severely compromised health and without medical attention their lifespan is short.

Both are rather odd, though. Usually, such genes are present in a very small number of individuals but in these 2 diseases, there are far more people carrying the harmful gene than would usually be expected.

The hypothesis is that carrying one copy of the gene confers, or at some time in the past, conferred, an advantage when it comes to survival.

Sickle Cell Disease is thought to help protect against malaria, in that should the parasite invade and set up home in some of the red blood cells, the cells collapse and the parasite dies. Hence it is advantageous in malaria prone regions. Two copies though, are very bad news. Red blood cells collapse in significant numbers, resulting in severe anaemia.

I don't know what would happen in a case such as the one in LA.

To complete the picture of this genetic quirk, being heterozygous for CF may protect against the fatal loss of fluid from the gut in cholera. Being homozygous, however, results in producing thick sticky mucus in the lungs, hence breathing difficulties.
jessica said…
It would be easy to find out from immaculate Heart, if they reached out to her or vice versa. Probably easy to find out through the board how much she was paid for her ‘speech’ that ended up being all about her and her experiences. Someone needs to train her on how to hide her narcissism.
KnitWit said…
Has everyone forgotten about social distancing? Will there be increased COVID cases following the protests? What about the packed funeral? There are a lot of empty seats, but everyone is crowded in the front rows.

Just turned on tv to see the funeral, shiny brass casket and all! Speaches by the family's attorney, lots of over the top waving and wailing. I feel bad for the family, a loss of a loved one turned into a spectacle.

I just yelled at the fool giving the eulogy at this spectacle. He said women didn't March for their rights. Like bleep they didn't. Women still face discrimination and harassment as we know too well!

America is facing challenging times. I don't thing rioting is the solution. Speeches from camera seeking celebrities isn't either.

Harry and Megan don't understand that Americans don't care what they think! People in England and Commonwealth countries may be impressed by phone calls, letters or visits from royalty. Those two left the royal family and are in America. They are a side show here! They are fighting for attention from the Kardashians and the rest of the crowd "famous for being famous" or infamous.

Wondering if the nuns in charge of Meghan's former school saw her in Suits, flipping burgers, tossing salad and the rest on YouTube. Hope the parents complained.



Sandie said…
Not on their website:

https://www.immaculateheart.org/

Not on their Facebook account:

https://www.facebook.com/ImmaculateHeartPandas/

Not on their twitter account:

https://twitter.com/IHPandas?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Perhaps it is too early for them to have posted/updated. Surely Meghan giving a speech for graduation is a big deal?

BLM a big theme on the above accounts so maybe Meghan was asked by them to focus on that issue in her speech.
jessica said…
Maybe they didn’t ask her for a speech, and she gave one and posted it online. Wouldn’t surprise me. I’m going to email them later today.
The connection is that lack of functional red blood cells, with their haemoglobin, results i the tissues bring short of oxygen, hence the need to avoid anything which could reduce the amount of oxygen reaching the tissues. Someone with severe asthma, or a lung conditions such as emphysema, would presumably be in a similar position whatever their race.

I agree with Aquagirl & Fairy Crocodile - it shouldn't be done to anyone.

Nevertheless, MM refuses to acknowledge that she should not be doing anything that could be construed as political if she wishes to be accepted as `royal'. In a disaster, HM sends her condolences without blaming anybody.

What MM has done is create a very dangerous precedent.

Will she be driven to comment should there be another case such as that of Mark Duggan, a man who was shot because the police believed he had a firearm and was prepared to use it? Will she refrain if it's a white man? These events are bad enough without her chipping in and stirring it.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Aquagirl and Wild Boar Battle Maid

I agree with you both what happened to Floyd is despeakable. The situation is ugly on so many levels only a very special type of hypocrite would wade in it for personal PR gain.

Meghan had nothing of value to say and no personal experience to offer. She should have stayed away from the whole thing.

Looks like even half-wit Harry was able to see this and made himself scarce for once.
Aquagirl said…
Go, @Jessica! Hope you’re able to get to the bottom of this.
Okay, I finally bit the bullet with tightly clenched incisors and watched part of the speech on DM. Then I read the transcript to verify the number of times our would-be dystopian heroine referred to herself: 35. She said the word “I” 35 times!!!! And that, folks, is pretty much all you need to know.

The only vaguely pleasant aspect to the experience of listening to this fraud was hearing the occasional chirping of birds in the background.
Hopefully one of them let loose on her head.
Louise said…
I was never convinced in the past that she wore fake flipper teeth, but her teeth are notably smaller and more irregular in this video.
Mel said…
jessica said…

Maybe they didn’t ask her for a speech, and she gave one and posted it online. Wouldn’t surprise me. I’m going to email them later today.

That's my thought. She created the speech and then found someone to give it to.

I can't figure out why the Harkles don't get some kind of social media thing going. They seem to be way behind on this.

It would be better to have their own platform than having to find places who'll let them usurp their platform. They're gonna run out of places pretty soon?
lizzie said…
Re: Not having their own SM platform

I wonder if they are still trying to convince IG to move their followers to a new acct? Otherwise it makes no sense there is no new account.
Unknown said…
2 things....the Madeleine McCann story is pushing MM out of the spotlight and 2 ....if you want to use your voice and you have a platform be Coco Gauff.....she is barely more than a child but what an impressive, inspiring young lady....
Louise said…
Regarding all the pauses, they all use the same script.

Here is a video of her friend Justin Trudeau making a twenty one second pause two days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjhF1GI9n8A

The hand over heart was used all the time by Trudeau and his wife until even his own supporters began to mock him.
Blithe Spirit said…
@lizzie, thank you for your comment. I had read the earlier thread about the Tatler EIC being in St Andrews during the same time as Kate and William and him being her friend, even visiting France with her and a group of friends. The latest DM story seemed to me to be a 'plant" by him to draw attention to the article by claiming she was upset. Or it could be DM rehashing old news for clickbait.

@Sandie, good work on finding out that the school has not posted the video on any of their social media! That"s very odd.
KCM1212 said…
I tried. I really did.

Couldn't get past the first few seconds. She seemed totally dead.

Oprah, Beyonce, and Gayle King have also spoken out. She couldn't let them speak without joining them, I'm sure.

I am forgiving these celebs props for speaking out against this act. If course they are horrified and shocked. It was murder, pure and unadulterated. Who could justify it? And I hope great good comes out of it.

Meghan making a speech about herself on the back of this is
despicable. She has nothing to offer here. I agree with everything that has been said by those more eloquent. I can't believe the nuns allowed this. Are they that clueless? I'm going to enjoy watching the fallout for this one.


On the other hand, Andrews interview has been nominated for a Bafta. Awkward.

https://people.com/royals/prince-andrews-epstein-interview-nominated-for-bafta-of-which-prince-william-is-president/
Humor Me said…
harrymarkle.wordpress.blog:
"Of course George Floyd's life matters. We do not need her telling us 10 days after his death."

Ouch.

looks like my comment on the DM coverage of the 'speech" did not make it.....
Cass said…
Yes, of course Black Lives matter! But so do ALL other lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fairy Crocodile said…
Humor Me

When the amount of severely negative comments peaks DM stops posting them.

In fact this is a good test of the public mood.
Lurking said…
It's late because she/they stuck a finger up to see which way the wind was blowing before making a statement.
ureallyannoyme said…
The dramatic process takes time. You have to hire a writer, produce a script, rewrites, memorize, block, rehearse, film, retakes, and edit. Being emotionally honest is not quick or easy.
SwampWoman said…
It is a six of one/half a dozen of another conundrum when restraining a large person that is under the influence of drugs. If said psychotic patient bangs his head against the ground resulting in injury, the police are blamed. To keep him from banging his head against the ground, I can see where pressure must be applied. In addition, people under the influence of a huge drug overdose can be prone to seizures due to oxygen deprivation; again, care must be taken to keep them from flailing head/body and harming themselves.

He could not be left to roam around free range because if he had darted into traffic and caused an accident/death of himself and/or others, police fault. If he is in a face up position and aspirates on his vomit (a possibility for people on drugs) then again, police would be blamed. The best position for this is prone with head to one side unless the restrainee is Down syndrome; for those, face-up restraint is indicated.

I was one of those people trained/certified in restraining students with a very tenuous grasp on reality. Sometimes they would suddenly decide to kill other students or the teacher no matter what manner of deescalation techniques were used. The certification had to be renewed fairly frequently, every year to 18 months IIRC. Not sure if the police department there had the same instruction; they probably were not quite so careful to make sure that the person being restrained was not harmed in any way.

The deceased had committed violent felonies in the past, was under the influence of meth and fentanyl, and was reported to be 6 feet 6 inches to six feet 7 inches tall and looked to weigh at least 400 lbs. He had passed counterfeit $20 bills to the store owner who called police. He was sitting on the roof of his vehicle acting all crazy. The police had tried to transport him twice, he'd jumped out of the car, and was screaming that he couldn't breathe at that time (probably the fentanyl) and/or the heart.

So, how would you restrain a man strung out on drugs that is 6'6" tall and weighs 400 lbs. so that he doesn't hurt himself, you, or others?

Do you really think a police department employee in one of the most leftist states in the Union with a leftist AG and a leftist mayor and a leftist governor was deliberately murdering black people? (That is what is charged.) There is a conspiracy theory out that it was a deliberate hit because the foreign-owned establishment where both the officer and the deceased worked (when it was open) was in fact a money-laundering operation and the deceased may have threatened to talk. *shrug*
Grisham said…
just sayin' said...
I’m also going to call bs on MM’s claim that I’m the ‘92 riots she saw looters carrying bags. What?! Looters don’t carry shopping bags. They don’t stop to bag the items they are grabbing. This anecdote shows that her “riot” story is pure fiction!

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They did. I remember it well.

I found a link for you which shows it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJC9JM_rfxc

Weekittylass said…
I didn’t really pay attention to her speech as much as I did her facial expressions and mannerisms. She was a cross between Oprah Winfrey and Hillary Clinton. Two women I am sure she has spent time studying closely. Also the claw. Her hands are always posed as claws which I find odd for someone supposedly trained in dance. The other thing I noticed, which I never have before, is that her right front tooth sticks out farther than the left giving her an overbite on that side of her mouth. It is more prominent. We will have to see if it is noticed and fixed. My mother could ‘pass’. She was Hispanic and black but with a much more olive tone to her skin. When she was young and wore her hair long, it was a beautiful, wavy dark brown that I just loved to play with. She really only experienced overt racism once in the UK. I never even knew what racism was until we moved back to the US when I was 10. She was a high school drop out who died a multi-millionaire. I never heard a curse word either and had to ask my older sister what they meant, lol. My family comes from all over the world. We have white, black, Asian, Hispanic and Turk. The twat is just another mixed race person out of millions here who had a far more privileged upbringing than most and treats the person who provided it to her as less than human. So she can SRFU with all of her virtue signaling and take a Wimbledon stadium of seats all by herself.
Weekittylass said…
STFU not SFRU lol.
Chippy Hick said…
RIP George Floyd. I'm sorry that the discussions seem to be all about the people who are hijacking your name for their own benefit.
SwampWoman said…
If I were looting, I'd definitely want bags to safely transport said loot. I certainly wouldn't want to drop any of it.

/I'd be looting high-priced chocolates, liquor, and shoes. Your looting needs may vary.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
This blurb strikes me as interesting.

“I wasn't sure what I could say to you. I wanted to say the right thing and I was really nervous that it would get picked apart. And I realised the only wrong thing to say is to say nothing.”

First of all, why is she questioning what she “could” say? I wonder if there is something in the agreement with the RF that they are not to be political during their trial period, especially with a presidential election in the US this year. I also wonder if their funding is tied to that.

That aside, if you are going to “shine a light” on things that are “close to” your heart so you can be a “force for change” wouldn’t you just say it? She bleats on and on about doing the right thing. Why would she worry about being “picked apart” if speaking up is the right thing to do?

IMO, this is just another example of her hypocrisy.
Indy said…
I have a beautiful Black daughter-in-law. She's a Columbia Grad lawyer. Needless to say many interesting conversations. My son is an environmental scientist and they live in Seattle. I need to explain something to Nutties here and want to do it nicely. The one thing Blacks do not like is when people say "All Lives Matter". They feel you're missing the point. First BLM doesn't mean all lives don't matter and they never meant that. They have only one meaning. Black Lives Need to Matter much more than they do. That's their message and some cringe at the "all lives matter" because they feel you're not only missing what they mean but you're wrongly thinking they're saying that only black lives matter and all lives don't matter. I hope I've explained this to you understand and didn't want to offend. I would probably not say the all lives matter thing.
SwampWoman said…
I have black relatives in the military and law enforcement. They say all lives matter.
Cass said…
Indy, then what Would you say?
3culprits said…
@Indy 1:53 -- Thank you. Well said.
Fifi LaRue said…
The hissy thing with her paws crossed and gazing with closed eyes toward the can of tuna in the sky looked like dead Ophelia floating away on the River Styx.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Indy

English is not my first language and I am missing something here. If they want to say "Black Lives should Matter much more than they do" why don't they say it? "Black Lives Matter too", or "Black Lives must matter" or something like that. There must be the way to express exactly what they mean.

Please forgive me but when somebody doesn't like when people say "All lives matter" I don't feel good about it, because all lives do matter. This is what equality is about.

I mean no disrespect to you or your daughter in law. I simply do not understand.

Indy said…
Just BLM. They want people to think that blacks think all lives matter without question. Because the believe all lives matter. But the message is Black lives need to matter more to people so they want it distinguished from all lives matter as that's a given . All lives matter but "listen up ,black lives need to matter more than they do in this country . And I probably shouldn't say not to say all lives matter but sometimes in some instances it's better not to. Each to his own. I have a Jewish sister-in-law too. My immediate family is WASP. My daughter was in a serious relationship with an Iranian and he was a great but his family wasn't having it as far as marriage and they really liked my daughter. She's married to a great guy now and the best man at their wedding was Mid eastern . My other son is married to a Latino from Colombia. She's a cardiologist. So we have like the UN and many many interesting conversations !

Fairy Crocodile said…
Indy,

Thank you for the explanation. I think a lot of problems among people happen because of misunderstandings.

Henrietta said…
SwampWoman said...

He had passed counterfeit $20 bills to the store owner who called police. He was sitting on the roof of his vehicle acting all crazy.
 
I always thought counterfeiters were the creme de la creme of criminals because Uncle Sam has come so far in preventing counterfeiting. How credible do you think it is that he was knowingly trying to pass counterfeit bills?
Jdubya said…
A gal on LSA (Cinnamaron?) posted this link to an article

https://www.macleans.ca/royalty/meghan-markles-twitter-bot-network-the-whole-thing-is-a-bit-insane/

thought you'd enjoy it
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Swamp Woman

You make an interesting point saying he was under influence, behaving erratically and refusing to cooperate.

The key thing here was he presenting danger to others? Was he aggressive? Was he trying to attack innocent bypassers? I don't know much about how it happened.

To my layman's view trying to pay with a fake bill is not a violent crime. And if he was screaming he couldn't breath (drugs or heart condition) shouldn't they have called for an ambulance?

I do not know protocols in such cases but there must have been another way of dealing with it instead of pressing on his neck for eight minutes when he already has difficulty breathing.

I am not in the argument with you, I am trying to understand because I hear conflicting reports and comments.
Fifi LaRue said…
Swamp Woman lives with mosquitos in Minnesota disparaging the dead very interesting.
Lindy said…
What if we find out she didn’t give a commencement speech at all? Why has no one else mentioned it?
Indy said…
I read on a breaking news that flashed on my screen that George Floyd tested positive for Corona . I can't remember which news source because they pop up from several I have . Has anyone else seen or heard about this???
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Indy

It's on CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/health/george-floyd-coronavirus-autopsy/index.html
Jdubya said…
I read that too (positive for virus). Which is a non-issue. Who knows if it is true? Testing positive for "corona" vs Covid-19 is 2 different things. They have admitted that half the the positive tests are incorrect. There is no test for Covid-19, just the Corona Virus.

Anyway - kneeling on his neck for over 8 minutes is wrong. They are other ways to subdue a prisoner. There were 4 officers at the scene.

Beyond that, i'm just staying out of it.
Grisham said…
They believe he likely had Covid 19 earlier in the month, as you can test positive for it 50+ days later but not be in an active illness. He had Covid-19 in the recent past. He may have been asymptomatic. Or didn’t need to go to the hospital. He may not have been infectious at the time they killed him.
SwampWoman said…
Yes, he did. He was asymptomatic though, I believe.

I think there is still a DNR (do not resuscitate) in some areas due to COVID-19. Don't know if that was in his area or whether it has been rescinded.
Cass said…
does anyone here remember what happened to REGINALD DENNY?
Cass said…
No, of course not! we don’t talk about that!!!!!!!!
KCM1212 said…
Of someone has already asked this, forgive me...


Why would she release this to Essence magazine if it's supposed to be a commencement address?

And it's not on the schools SM?

This is crazy. As it so often is when Megsy is involved. I think you guys are right...She created the video and the went looking for a place to release it. The school may not be involved at all!

Has she finally flipped that yak-fur wig?
Indy said…
I was only trying to see if it was fake news. I agree has zero to do with anything ! It was just curiosity because I want to check everything I hear because I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of crap put out there . We need to be on our toes and wary of everything.
ElfSelf said…
Hi Nutties,

sorry for the absence. A whole blog post on What We Know to Be True About Meghan and I missed it! I will admit I watched the entire video Maleficent posted and in the back of my mind I had a vision of her asking Harry, "What's my motivation?" I honestly think the Duchess of Deceit was trying her best to have a Meryl Streep moment while making sure to remind everyone how relevant she is because she now recognizes she is a WOC with a message. She'll be on her way to earning that Emmy, Oscar, Tony, Grammy, Bafta... Eh Scratch the Bafta. Can you imagine being a fly on the wall at Harkle House? The insane planning the two of them are doing to make sure Me-Again not only stays on the map but also takes down those she perceives to have caused her harm a peg or two? And Harry is in it to win it. I disagree that he has gone home or pines for his family. He is more than likely having a ball snorting himself comfortably numb and not having to be accountable to anyone who actually cares for his well being. They two of them are like Bonnie and Clyde on a very slow, self destruct path.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I've already mentioned this on the previous thread: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?postID=919690940564318303&blogID=6384787764455104958&isPopup=false&page=4

But I think Meghan's mannerism & how long it took for her to eventually say something about a significant event in her own country while making it all about her...

Is likely because she can't explain how she "fled to seek refuge & freedom" from the awful racism in England: https://theconversation.com/asian-grooming-gangs-how-ethnicity-made-authorities-wary-of-investigating-child-sexual-abuse-130099

The English police will literally knock on your door for posting a transphobic tweet apparently!! They also enploy drones to monitor who's out during quarantine lololol. It's all very Orwellian but it's child's play compared to race-based police brutality in America. Even Indonesian police/military in Papua aren't that brutal if you think about how George Floyd was out there in broad daylight in a city in developed country.

It's not cutesy like Indonesian police helping cats cross the street. It's kind of dysfunctional (no offence to the Brits, I really do love England & I think you're wonderful country). 💜💜

So why would she raise her mix-raced son at the birthplace of the BLM movement (in a town with NO paparazzi whatsoever, it's not like LA is known for it).

She bashed the hell out of the UK, and then this happens. And suddenly none of her actions make any sense.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself here. But thought I'd mention it in case anyone hasn't thought about this PoV. I also mentioned that I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan has relatives the Queen's age who's just as racist as the Queen allegedly is (Meanwhile she chases a 1984-born man who has no excuse for not knowing better about wearing Nazi uniforms for gum, calling people "ragheads" & "Paki", when between 1984-2020 there was nothing in our world that normalised racism like segregation/slavery & eveb Apartheid in SA was dissolving during Harry's lifetime).

I think her accusations of "racism" was more based on narcissism (much like Oprah).

I think Oprah has more in common with Reese Witherspoon ("DO YOU KNOW WHO I AAAAAM??") than George Floyd.

The woman has lived a life of privilege (immense wealth & fame in the US but not in Zürich LOL) for so long, 3 DECADES, that I wouldnt be surprised if Oprah can't remember (let alone relate) to the African-American experince.

Dont get me wrong, I WILL listen & learn.

But only from regular people like you & me.

I'm not listening to narcisistic celebrities who've learn to accuse people of "racism" anytime they don't receive the treatment they think they deserve. Or when the Chanel branch at a banker's town won't shut down the whole store so QUEEN OPRAH can shop alone & have her ass kissed like they do at the Beverly hills branch.

Sorry I keep coming here to drop comments without following up. I've a lot going on. 🙏🏼 I hope everyone's safe & healthy.
Bennie said…
WTF......
PIERS MORGAN: You're not fit to light Churchill's cigar, Mr President so listen to Meghan Markle and stop dividing and start uniting a country crying out in pain

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8388385/PIERS-MORGAN-Mr-President-listen-Meghan-Markle-stop-dividing-country-crying-pain.html
Mel said…
This is crazy. As it so often is when Megsy is involved. I think you guys are right...She created the video and the went looking for a place to release it. The school may not be involved at all!

That would also explain why she didn't greet them as Immaculate Heart students at first.

It had to be a generic speech because she didn't yet know who was going to let her hijack their platform.

I also thought it interesting that she was in all white, so heavenly and pure.

I think she not only had cue cards in front of her, she also had some on the desk in front of her. She looked down at them quite a few times.

CatEyes said…
To all Nutties:

I was away all day and I see Unknown has again co-opted my name and wrote stupid things (actually inane posts) as only she can write since she is an idiot.

But again, the Fake 'CatEyes' doesn't have my avatar it is a fraud just like MM and just as unoriginal in what they post and as dumb as Harry. How fitting...that is why the Unknown does it, they have a kindred spirit to the HAMS! LOL

The fake CatEyes needs to slink back to the litterbox and clean up their act.
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Louise said…
Don't know whether this has been posted.. part of Smirkle's speech was taken from Grey's Anatomy:



"We are petrified of saying too much or saying it wrong. When the truth is, the only wrong thing you can say is nothing at all'"
-Dr. Jackson Avery, Grey's Anatomy, Season 3.
CatEyes said…
@FAKE CatEyes/Unknown

After weeks of trying to impersonate me, Nutties figured you out from the beginning and aren't responding to you at all. They just scroll on past.....You're ignored, completely and utterly ignored!

BTW you write as if you are drugging with bath salts (very damaging to your little brain) or maybe poor thing, you are schizophrenic. Go get help!
Looks like Megs had a well prepared, primary-level presentation and acting. Waited to say anything until recently, because she needed the media spotlight to die down and open up a window for her to make front page. She's working with PR people. They would have coordinated this entire thing. Also the poor remarks on how it was all her idea, major clue it was not her idea at all. She was coached, which is why she comes across very disingenuine. I don't understand why she bothers with all of this. What is she actually trying to achieve?

I went to a dinner in 2017 with a few banking big wigs, and I'm almost positive the Editor of Essence was there as well, hosted in Central London. If I'm remembering correctly, then it would have been a very easy relationship for Meghan to cultivate. As soon as I saw that they 'released' her video, I thought it made sense and was an obvious move on her part. It's not groundbreaking by any means, but easily done is my point.

Further, what is with their lack of social accounts? Is it because their flippant charity site (which has been steamrolled by anons), is not yet built, and has no clear purpose yet?

The whole thing is baffling. Harry should have been in the video with Meghan, having an open and honest conversation about their experiences, but even in the video she stayed personally adjacent to her identity.
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CatEyes said…
Regarding race relations, I think the biblical adage of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" would quite simply work very well in most cases.

I don't think the Police Officer who killed Mr. Floyd would have wanted his neck squashed until his life sustaining breath was literally squeezed out of him until he cried, and pleaded for his life and died.
And still, Immaculate Heart High School has not posted anything about the grad speech.
SwampWoman said…
Fairy Crocodile, the US Treasury Dept. views fake bills very seriously indeed. This guy basically just robbed a store by purchasing something (cigarettes, I think) with fake bills. But the officers didn't know that at the time. They just thought it was a nuisance drunk in the parking lot call.

Probably nothing much would have been done with him after the arrest after being transported to jail. He may have been out victimizing the store again the next day. He had an enlarged hypertensive heart, 75 to 90% occluded left and right coronary arteries (which could on their own have caused sudden death), then throw in a level of fentanyl that could be lethal, some meth, marijuana, and a struggle, and that heart was not happy. Then there was the coronavirus. (I don't think that contributed at all but I just throw it out there because it has been implicated in sudden cardiac arrest.)

Meth's effect on cardiac function is well known: https://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/types-of-addiction/stimulants-types-of-addiction/methamphetamine-use-and-heart-arrhythmia/

From the reported state of his heart, he'd been using meth for awhile.

Did the restraint have a bearing? I dunno. Maybe. There was no bruising or tissue damage, however. There was no petechial hemorrhage. The surveillance camera video shows him complaining of not being able to breathe or stand when the officer charged with murder hadn't even left his vehicle which suggests that the fatal event was in progress.

I just wanted to point out that we've restrained lots of people and none of them have died. While the restraint may look violent and scary, it is to keep people from hurting themselves (and others) and doesn't result in so much as a bruise (at least the way we practiced it). A lot of psychotics (and autistics) find it relaxing. While we *never* used a neck restraint, I understand that it is approved in some police departments. Hmmmmm.

Whoever is lead on the restraint starts calling for gradual relaxation of the restraint when the restrainee is calm for approximately 60 seconds. I found that the lack of removing restraint was strange for the PD; their protocol for a drug OD may be different than ours with a rage event.

When we practiced restraining techniques on each other (at every recertification!), we did get the *opportunity* to be restrained (multiple times) while people worked on their certifications. It was not painful. I bruise very easily and didn't.

My last recertification, I welcomed the opportunity to rest. The restraint process is quite strenuous/labor intensive. My heart said that I could continue indefinitely helping to restrain to make sure that those students with mental conditions were not harmed; my knees said I was delusional and getting too old for that stuff. My knees won the argument.

Perhaps somebody that is currently a working police person could fill us in on the protocols for restraining a person in their area.
Grisham said…
A knee on the back of the neck causes promixal asphyxiation and leaves no tell tale signs.
Grisham said…
*prome positional asphyxiation
Grisham said…
https://www.disabilityrightsca.org/system/files?file=file-attachments%2F701801.pdf
Natalier said…
People are saying the speech is lifted from Grey's anatomy, lol.
Rut said…
I can't stand listening to Meghan Markle. The fake tone in her voice, the way she wrinkles her eybrows, the hands moving...
In her speech she paused, as if she was looking for words, as if the words came to her while she was speaking. As if she had not written and rehearsed that speach

inside her head 300 times before. I don't understand how people can not see how fake she is.
I wonder if she made that video after Trudeau’s speech where he pauses For 20 seconds before responding to a reporter. It comes across as rehearsed and insincere.
She can't even fake sincerity.

Silly thought - the entire saga couldn't just be an attempt at using the Method, could it? Hoping for a part as a princess, she did a Robert de Niro and tried it for real? She forgot the script, then exited stage left, pursued by a tame dancing-bear?

As for the riots she recalled, didn't she have to have it explained to her that it wasn't snow that was falling? Could the looters have been looting bags? High-end ones that is? Like the old story about the chap who was smuggling bicycles across the Mexican/Irish/`Berlin' border?

Not entirely OT: I first heard a version of this tale in a French lesson when I was 16. It was practice for an exam test called `aural composition' - a brief yarn in French would be read out and then we had to write our own version, again in French.

I mention this because it's triggered something else in my mind.

One story concerned a performance of the G&S comic opera `The Sorcerer' - this end with a take-off of Mozart's `Don Giovanni'. A stage trapdoor opens and the Sorcerer is taken down to the Nether Regions, like the Don. On this occasion, the trapdoor stuck and the Sorcerer had to stay on stage.

A wag yelled out `Evidemment, l'enfer est plein!'

If someone asks, `why hasn't MM gone for good?', we too could shout `Evidently, Hell is full!'
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all.

While this is not a George Floyd blog, just to follow up on @FairyCrocodile's comment:

The key thing here was he presenting danger to others? Was he aggressive? Was he trying to attack innocent bypassers? I don't know much about how it happened.

It's been publicly confirmed that Floyd and the bad cop who killed him, Derek Chauvin, worked together in a nightclub.

Alternative media are saying that there was some kind of money-laundering operation running out of the nightclub, in which Chauvin and the other cops present at Floyd's murder were involved, as well as some higher-ranking officers.

Floyd, a heavy drug user, was supposedly putting the wider operation in danger by trying to pass a $20 counterfeit bill.

If this is true, it would explain why the officer was so extremely violent to a man committing a somewhat minor crime, and why the other officers present did not stop him.
HappyDays said…
Meghan’s radical-chic hand wringing.
HappyDays said…
@nutty: I read that the Derek Chauvin and George Floyd both worked for that club, Chauvin’s off-duty job was to sit in his parked police cruiser outside of the club and George Floyd worked inside the club as s bouncer. The article I read said it is not known if they actually knew each other.

As far as a criminal enterprise going on at the club, this is the first I have heard of it.

Back to Meghan. I was wondering when she would get some mileage for herself from the George Floyd killing and the resulting unrest here in the US. Meghan comes across as disingenuous woman who has spent much of her life shunning her black heritage, going as far back to Immaculate Heart school where her schoolmates always thought Meghan was of Italian background. I’ve read a quote from one woman who went there with her that everyone who knew Meghan was shocked after years of knowing her when Doria showed up at school one day. It tells me that Meghan was perfectly happy to let her schoolmates believe she was of Italian descent and never mentioned or let on to anyone that her mother was black.

In the ensuing years, she still shunned her mother’s heritage by altering her appearance and identifying as caucasian in her acting CV sheet.

Meghan also learned she could weaponize that part of her heritage and use it (only when convenient) to attempt to intimidate others who legitimately criticized her behavior or didn’t hire her for acting roles due to her extremely mediocre acting skills, which BTW were on full display in this taped message.

One thing I have frequently read here and other places where comments are allowed is How on earth did someone who was so obviously manipulative and fake get into the royal family?

Well, I think it’s very possible she used race in either direct or thinly-veiled threats to publicly denounce the royal family as racists, using Harry as her messenger (after all, we already know that Meghan IS fond of using other people as her messengers) which could very well have been communicated to the royal family to force the engagement only eight months after the Inskip wedding.

Narcissists of her level are incredibly driven, and will. not let any thing or anyone get in her way. Meghan was so close to grabbing the gold ring (which she literally did when Harry proposed) that she would not have hesitated to put Harry into a corner when she showed up at the Inskip wedding after Harry had reportedly broken up with her.

Harry already had the Nazi uniform episode in his past, plus alleged ethnically insensitive remarks about some of the people he crossed paths with during his Afghanistan tours of duty, so having a manipulative woman like Meghan who specializes in portraying herself as a victim of the entire world literally force her way into the royal family and Harry’s life isn’t far fetched.
Magatha Mistie said…
Megs looking upwards, at the mirrored ceiling of Harry’s closet...
She also looked down, checking her (well rehearsed) spontaneous notes...
Her flickering eyes, left, right, crossed...
Clasped hands at the throat, merching something?
All this without sound...
Nutty Flavor said…
Interesting thoughts, @Happy Days.

It seems to me that the extensive protests/riots/kneeling may be burning out the "race card" for the short term. (I also enjoyed this graph from a popular but controversial Twitter personality.)

Heaven knows that Pride Month and #metoo seem to be missing in action, now that the new trendy cause is abolishing the police.

Anyway, the point at which everyone moves on to another topic would be a good time for the RF to cut Meghan free, if that's what they intend to do.
Unless she thinks that it's her idea to cut free entirely, she will fight tooth and nail to do as much harm as she can to the RF. Even if she did break off from H of her own accord, it wouldn't necessarily stop the bile but it'd be worse were she pushed.

How best can Harry's value to her be reduce to zero, or at least below that of the next gullible rich man who comes her way? Cut the money, of course, but it would need HM & PC both to harden their hearts beyond what may be possible for them - even that is not without risks.

The RF mustn't be seen to play dirty. Even if they revealed the truth about Archie, whatever it is, there's no guarantee that the public reaction would be anything other than `Good for them!' Apart from most of us, that is.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Entirely agree royals should cut Megsy free. She will not drop activism and activism presents existential threat to the Crown because in the Parlamentary Monarchy royals must stay above politics.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Nutty
Megs, & her cock a snook husband, should be freed of their titles,
and related money.
She’s made her game plain, enough, get rid.

Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar

The RF May have to play the Archie card.
If our thoughts are true, she will be revealed as a liar.
There is no excuse for that.

A propos of being apolitical, what do Nutties make of this? (from Yahoo News)

Meghan couldn't have made her Black Lives Matter speech if she'd been a working royal
Catriona Harvey-Jenner
Cosmo21 hours ago

From Cosmopolitan:

`Meghan Markle has spoken out powerfully against racism, in support of the Black Lives Matter movement that has become more prominent since the harrowing killing of African American man, George Floyd.

`In an address to students about to graduate from her old high school, Immaculate Heart (which she attended between the ages of 11 and 18), the Duchess of Sussex spoke movingly about the value of the Black lives, and how they need to stop being so senselessly lost due to racism.

`"George Floyd's life mattered and Breonna Taylor's life mattered and Philando Castile's life mattered and Tamir Rice's life mattered... and so many other people's, whose names we know and whose names we do not know. Stephon Clark, his life mattered," she said.

`But one aspect of her speech may have meant that Meghan wouldn't have been able to speak out about the issue at all, had she still been a working member of the royal family.

`During her video recording, the Duchess called upon the students from her old high school to see this moment not as an end, but as a beginning, and the start of their ability to make change.

"You are going to lead with love, you are going to lead with compassion, you are going to use your voice," Meghan said sincerely.

Omid Scobie
✔@scobie

`"George Floyd's life mattered and Breonna Taylor's life mattered and Philando Castile's life mattered and Tamir Rice's life mattered."

Duchess Meghan has shared a powerful video with @IHPandas Immaculate Heart High School’s class of 2020 for their graduation.#BlackLivesMatter'

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08:14 - 4 Jun 2020

2,629 people are talking about this


`"You are going to use your voice in a stronger way than you have ever been able to, because most of you are 18 or you're going to turn 18 so you're going to vote."
Meghan left a lingering pause after her mention of voting. Without having to say anything at all, the silence forced viewers to think for a moment about how the people we vote in to lead our countries contribute to the state of society. And in urging change for the future

` "We are going to rebuild, and rebuild, and rebuild, until it is rebuilt. Because when the foundation is broken, so are we," Meghan powerfully said - she suggests that voting is a way to make this necessary change. A way to strive for better things to come.'

`The subtext was political. But as a senior member of the royal family, this probably wouldn't have been something Meghan Markle would have been able to touch on in any public-facing address. (My emphasis)

It's widely understood that the British royal family must be politically unbiased. It is the duty of the Queen - who heads up the royal family - to remain "strictly neutral with respect to political matters", according to the official website, meaning she is "unable to vote or stand for election". While this is not formally extended to the rest of the royal family, it is something they, too, typically honour.

`Meghan Markle is famously outspoken about issues she cares about. And while the Black Lives Matter movement is absolutely a social one, indeed, a human rights one - it's also an issue that is political because of the change it requires at the top, as well as from a human-to-human level. It may perhaps feel freeing, then, that it's something she is able to share her thoughts on publicly.

`"I am sorry that we haven't gotten the world to a place where you deserve it to be," the Duchess poignantly told the graduating students."


(My spacing)
So is she Royal or not? Or about to have all Royal privileges withdrawn?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Wild Boar Battle Maid

The Disney official put it best. Megs is controversial.

She is back into the States and back into her usual modus operandi. Activism.

The biggest controversy of all is she is only able to maintain any visibility is her connection to the British royal family, which is apolitical.

Charles may be blinded by his love to Harry but other royals aren't and Harry is sinking faster than Titanic. Once Harkles started making videos and moved into the paparazzi capital of the world their claim for privacy and respect as reason of running out of UK is null and void.

Happy Days said, Well, I think it’s very possible she used race in either direct or thinly-veiled threats to publicly denounce the royal family as racists....

I’ve long thought it and know and read many who believe the same thing. She had them over a barrel with the race card, very little they could do without some kind of media fallout. Shocking when you think about it in that sense. :o(
Aquagirl said…
What the heck is going on with Piers Morgan? He’s acting like a Meghan cheerleader in his latest article in the DM. (Trump needs to look to MM for an example on how to lead?) Rumor was they threatened to fire him if he didn’t lay off MM, but this is a total 180 on his part.
abbyh said…

Another 2 nameless friends commenting about how now she sounds like the friend she used to be (less restrained and post BRF).

I'm always impressed how time and time again by how many friends she has who have this need to show support for her but are completely and totally unwilling to put their name and face to put it in print.
xxxxx said…
Raspberry Ruffle said...
Happy Days said, Well, I think it’s very possible she used race in either direct or thinly-veiled threats to publicly denounce the royal family as racists....

I’ve long thought it and know and read many who believe the same thing. She had them over a barrel with the race card, very little they could do without some kind of media fallout. Shocking when you think about it in that sense. :o(

Then 99% of the blame rests on Hapless for bringing such a vile creature into the BRF. A common American can intimidate the Royal family via her her race card. It sure looks like it. And (laughing) after she got a super expensive wedding a million new wardrobe. Much of this paid by British taxpayers. What a farce.
To think she had the confounded cheek to say there should be more blacks in Britain. She absolutely no say in how this country is run.

I and many fellow Nutties have a greater role in it than she possibly can - we have the vote here, she doesn't.
Whoops - missed a word out - `she has no say'.
I just read the transcript and she uses the word "I" no fewer than 36 times (I didn't even bother to count the number of times she said "me" or "my"). Once again, she makes it all about herself, just like in the video of her reading to Archie, where she is overtly playing to the camera and never minding the poor kid squirming in her lap.
lucy said…
@WBBM it is tried and true logic for royals to "stay out of stuff" with good reason. I think remaining neutral is one of the keys to longevity. depending on public sentiment you are bound to piss off (depending on mood, half the people)

that is what politicians are for
Sandie said…
Actally, once again, a false narrative is created around and soread about Meghan (personally I think she does this because it is her way of exerting control).

Please note that William and Catherine used their official social media accounts to make statements about the George Floyd killing.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a32768499/prince-william-kate-middleton-harry-heads-together-black-lives-matter/

(Including Prince Harry is strange. Is this a sign that the project to rehabilitate him, sans Meghan, has begun?)

I am dismayed that people are simply running with the narrative about Meghan being suppressed as a royal and now she is free to speak her mind. William and Catherine are more royal than she ever was or ever could be and they have not only made what can be regarded as very political speeches but they have also offered concrete support (i.e. they are going beyond pretty words).

PS No matter how one twists it, no matter how much one tries to smear and discredit the dead man, no matter how much one tries to find some kind of conspiracy, George Floyd died because he had a policeman kneel on his neck for more than 8 minutes (after he was handcuffed). No matter what his other medical conditions were, he would not have died on that day in that place in that way if the policeman had not killed him by kneeling on his neck. Even if Floyd did use a counterfeit note, he was not endangering anyone at the time (I am appalled at the fake stories being created to try to justify what happened) and there was no need for so many policemen nor for such brutality. By the way, it is normal for an innocent person to resist arrest, and more than normal for black Americans who know that the odds are stacked against them. (I can show you an example from my country of an innocent woman being confronted, manhandles, arrested and bundled into the back of a van by police. She does resist, vigorously, and shouts for help, but in lockdown all people do is film the incident. Luckily the police at the station, where she was taken, refused to participate in the injustice and immediately insisted on her release instead of charging her. She was white; the police were all black. Race had nothing to do with the incident. Guilt had nothing to do with her resistence.)
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Martha said…
Ugh! She is so predictable! And talk is cheap...those celebrities who feel compelled to opine on political matters, or any matter, are superfluous, in my opinion. But she tops the dung heap. When she discusses her ambivalence, I think it was simply a ploy to use the phrase, “the only wrong thing....to say nothing”; just another hackneyed phrase to toss out for self-aggrandizement, to showcase her thoughtfulness.

There is the opinion here that the BRF has a plan in the pipes to cut her loose, but when? She is insufferable, malignant, conniving and an utter embarrassment. She joined a family in order to destroy it. She created a family to further her climb, and has ceaselessly exposed her intent. I read this morning she’s used her son in an animal charity. It must be exhausting being around her.

Trudeau, our PM, is a total ass. Small wonder Megain looks to him for the dramatic touch.
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Something I'd like to add to my earlier post of MM's constant use of "I" during her speech - most people would just say "My teacher once told me.....". But no, she has to add that her teacher spoke to her just as she was leaving for a day of volunteering - once again, it's all about her as she brags about her humanitarian work. She is so transparent.
SwampWoman said…
Nutty Flavor says: Alternative media are saying that there was some kind of money-laundering operation running out of the nightclub, in which Chauvin and the other cops present at Floyd's murder were involved, as well as some higher-ranking officers.

Floyd, a heavy drug user, was supposedly putting the wider operation in danger by trying to pass a $20 counterfeit bill.

If this is true, it would explain why the officer was so extremely violent to a man committing a somewhat minor crime, and why the other officers present did not stop him.


Yep. Not racism, criminal enterprise. Is it plausible? Sure! Police (and politicians) have been involved in criminal enterprises as long as there have been police and politicians. Could explain the apparent overcharge by the AG if investigators found that he'd been ordered to kill him, but the cynical side of me says that the overcharge is to make sure the officer(s) walk(s) and cause more violence around election. Then the AG will blame it on Trump. Win/win. Also, if there is dirty money out there, the politicians in charge of the state are recipients of it.

$900,000 worth of fake bills that originated in China were seized in January in Minnesota. There has been a rise in the number of counterfeit bills in the area. If the Treasury Department is still nosing around (and you know they are) and the business they were working for was involved in distribution (as well as money laundering) then it would be a shame if Floyd were to die before he had an opportunity to speak to an attorney. The phone records of the OIC of the scene will be interesting.

What I think: Awfully messy and leaves loose ends. If it were my illegal enterprise, I'd just make sure that he had lots of (real) money to buy street drugs with (which seemed to be slowly doing the job). Maybe it was a panic situation.

If the police officer with the main charge decides to "hang himself" in jail, we'll know. He's a huge loose end.

Why would I even read the alternative media? I have found that they are weeks to months ahead of the MSM in reporting things. In my own county, we know where drugs are being sold, which cops are dirty, and which county politicians and employees are for sale. You won't read it in the paper or hear it on the news unless they get too greedy.
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lucy said…
with all due respect if Floyd was involved in some sort of covert sting that went awry, surely there are more apt means to "take him out" less a public display on a city sidewalk in broad daylight

IMO this was a personal vendetta period from cop who systematically eliminated him
Those That Do said…
Rumor has it she wasn't asked to do this "commencement speech" at all and if she was how come as usual its about about MeAgain. She said I or ME over 30 something times. Her fake emotions she must of practiced for days and for what attention and OF COURSE to be billed as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. She literally cannot let go of that title that she claims she doesn't care about now can she. On another note I think we are reading too much into this whole "speech of hers" The truth of the matter if she was NOT married to Harry, Essence would not of given a nobody like her a platform, news agencies would not be writing about her and look at it for what is it is she is only 'someone' as long as she is married to Harry. She will continue to milk it for every little bit she can until Harry is drained.
Superfly said…
I'm bored with this cheap virtue signalling by empty-brained zombie followers.
Look everybody, I'm like, so not racist, cause of my black square. See? I posted it and like, hash tagged it, so definitely no racism here. Cause racism is bad. Educate yourselves. I'm a good person. I care. I'm helping.

Next week: my avocado toast, yoga and outfit of the day.

p.s.: I did not watch MM, why would I? There are enough morons polluting my brain with their platitudes, word salads and trivialities, why add another one to the list?

p.p.s: until 2 years ago, wasn't she caucasian?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lucy

That is why it is so dangerous to waddle into the situation and issue judgements and proclamations. Meghan does not represent anybody but herself when she speaks and should withdraw her titles from signing her addresses.

It is up the law and courts to establish exactly what happened and why. There will be investigation and there will be information available to the public.

The press reports two of the policemen were green rookies with just a couple days employment and the other experienced cop not only tried to stop the murder, he called the ambulance and performed emergency first aid. We must wait for the investigation to establish all facts and not succumb to emotions that run raw and high.

I detest people who try to use Floyd's murder for personal gain, be it PR, politics or looting. This is the ugliest side of human nature.
Sandie said…
Immaculate Heart High School Graduation was due to be 8 p.m. 3 June 2020, but still nothing from the school about Meghan making a speech.

https://www.immaculateheart.org/calendar

They had a virtual prom:

https://www.immaculateheart.org/news-detail?pk=1111747&fromId=201342

I suppose Meghan could not wait for the school to update websites. She made the speech for publicity and so she immediately got the video published in the press. I wonder how the school feels knwoing that she used them for publicity or are they used to that from Hollywood?

By the way, Samantha (or suppsedly Samantha) is claimiing that Meghan was not even in LA during the riots. A timeline shows that the school could not have been watching the commercial because the timing was wrong (the riots started and the children were sent home and schools closed). I think she is conflating two incidents and in doing so puts herself at the centre of the LA riots and puts herself up front for the school project (apparantly it is done every year) requiring students to write a letter of complaint (and it was a group who wrote in protest about the soap commerical, not just Meghan but she got highlighted because her father had the connections to get her interviewed ... I think the other children were also interviewed but Meghan happily lets everyone leave that out as she does when recalling what happened).

Do you think the Lady C biography will unravel the lies and tell the truth? And Tom Bower's book? I am actually sick of these lies being repeated (or embellishiments of the truth) and those on social media, like here, who expose it being ignored and mainstream media and tabloids just ignoring the lies she tells (or embellishments of the truth).
Those That Do said…
@sandie, Also, I didn't listen to her speech but she should of been only 8 years old NOT 11 or 12 at the time of the riots. So what is up with that as well? Or is that urban legend true as well that she's really 44 or 43 and not 38 soon to be 39 years old.

Of course she did it for publicity, I'm sure that Kate and Will probably had something coming out and she of course needed to be one step ahead etc Everything is always about her in the end.
Indy said…
Regarding "commencement" speech. It has been noticed with her Madonna hands gesture that she is wrong a $6,000 Cartier Love Bracelet made famous in the 70s. It was then noticed it's the same bracelet Trevor gave her to wear at her wedding to him. I checked it out out and it sure looks the same. Fake news? I don't think so but can't say for sure but if it's true this is very sick indeed . Also , Samantha Markle supposedly is claiming the race riot in LA story is false. She lived nowhere near the riots and there was never a charred tree in her front yard. SM claims she read heard a story at the time that the riots were spreading to the suburbs and that's where she got it. I would then assume the ash looking like snow was BS too. Fake news? I'm looking around for the whole story. I have to admit the really good reception she is getting today is bugging her heck out of me. She didn't get this much buzz yesterday but George's funeral but I'm wondering if SS kept this growing . Also has anyone heard Trudeau's wife packed up the kids and left? More fake news?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Those that do

Let's do the maths. LA riots in 1992 happened in April and May according to WIKI. Markle's official birthday is August 4 1981. This makes her 10 years old when they happened. So if she says she was 11 or 12 she lies.

I do not know about the grading system in USA or how the Immaculate Heart school grades its pupils. Would be interesting to listen to our USA commentators about Markle's declarations regarding that time in history.
lucy said…
@FairyCrocodile I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment. it is entirely "hot button" issue with far too many variables, one of which is why does the cop continues to compress Floyds neck after he ceases to move, let alone when the medic arrives to check his vitals

the issue is relevant in this blog cause MM inserted herself into the situation but I feel the particulars are best left to other more suitable blogs. the perceived
specifics are ticking time bomb here that is sure to implode around comment 300

Those That Do said…
@fairy crocodile , I am sure they will have a different recollection. She as usual had to interject herself into yet another painful time in American History and make it about her as usual. She lies lies and lies.
Fairy Crocodile said…
The difference between Kate and Wills and Markle in this particular situation is Cambridges did not do personal statements.

The strong statement "We stand with the black community" came from the Heads Together campaign they founded, not from them in person. I checked their official Twitter account and did not see any comments from them on Floyd's murder. And it was a great relief to me.

I am sure they have strong feelings about this as we all do, but they have decency, respect and presence of mind not to step into a very complex and charged situation which could potentially make it worse, at least in UK.
Oh yes, she declared herself as `Caucasian' on her acting resume/cv/call sheet(?) (it's published online), and reportedly let people assume she was Italian, Sephardic Jewish (few of the Sephadim I've ever met even had olive skins) or even Maltese (on the grounds that her Gt-Gt grandmother once lived there for a bit. (Am not sure about the exact no of `greats'. She's no more Maltese than I am - even though I've had holidays there, taught several Maltese boys in my teaching career and have a friend of Maltese origin.)
lucy said…
to be candid, I have far better recall regarding Rodney King and Reginald Denney. not to discount or to say LA riots was not big news, I just must have been in different space in my life.

as a side note do any of you feel women lie the wrong way? and what I mean by that is before MM rebuilt entire face had she said I am 45 people would be all oooo she is looking good for her age

I realize Hollywood is different animal, all about youth but as a generalization if I added 10 years to my age people be like how does she do it!?

kind of silly but more I age less I care what others think , but I mention it because I recall being roped into some Tupperware-esque party hosted by my cousin touting some "revolutionary " youth creme. she opened presentation by stating she uses the cream daily and she is 84. lol she was not even 40 but surely was food for thought in between finger sandwiches
@ Fairy Crocodile

It’s full name is Sickle Cell Anaemia , but I can’t see how it would help cause or hasten a death in the way George died. I’ve known people with this disease too. If anyone’s oxygen is compromised Sickle Cell sufferer or not, your body isn’t getting enough oxygen into it so you’ll die of asphyxiation.

Yes, it does affect the red blood cells (the shape of them causes problems etc) that carry oxygen around the body. IMHO I think this theory is stretching the diseases affects though. :o/
Girl with a Hat said…
Sophie Trudeau and Justin haven't been living together for at least 2 years. More like 2 1/2 now. They are pretending for the sake of his career and to fend off the allegations of sexual wrong doing. He is a cheater.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Wild Boar Battle Maid

Oh yes, once she stepped into the race territory there is no way back. Markles visibility as a member of the royal family is a double edged sword. While giving weight to her support of one group it also makes other groups wonder about being excluded.

Let me give a specific example. I have Ashkenasim Jewish roots. If you read historic books you will know that the word "pogrom" for Jews is as potent as the word "slavery" to the African-Americans. As recent as Soviet times in Russia Jews could not go to prominent Universities, hold official positions or even live in certain central areas. If you married a Jew you could kiss good bye to your career in many fields. Circumcision was a criminal offense. If somebody saw circumcised man he would be reported to KGB. Synagogues were destroyed and religious practices banned - even baking of traditional unleavened bread! During the 19th century Jews were basically outlaws, women raped, man killed and robbed, businesses destroyed. Nazis are not the only who tried to "solve the Jewish question" radically. I am not even going to touch treatment of Jews in many modern societies. That is not the subject of the blog.

So, if Markle de facto speaks as a member of the royal family, at the very least I expect her to clearly denounce all forms of racism. That she keeps emphasizing her own heritage makes her message personal and limited to her own self. She is privileged, protected, tax funded and pampered individual with very little record of service for any community, so why should I listen to her?

Frankly she is doing harm to BLM movement attempting to ride it for personal gain.



lucy said…
how did you all feel about Nuttys poll? despite the less than pleasant subject matter I thoroughly enjoyed tuning into updated results and insights of less prolific posters! not that I do not enjoy musings of regulars, I do. was just neat to hear from the myriad of more muted voices

wouldn't it be fun to utilize feature for more whimsical inquiries? like ranking Megs horrible outfits or worst displays of PDA. lame quotes, horrible speeches etc etc

I think it would be fun and lift the heaviness of recent subject matter

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