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Meghan and Black Lives Matter

The Duchess of Sussex has commented on the recent Black Lives Matter protests in a videotaped graduation speech to the high school she once attended.

This link includes the video and the transcript of her address.

What do you think of Meghan speaking out to support BLM?

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@Wullie's Bucket. I distinctly remember Diana having to see a gynaecologist to be "checked" and how horrified I felt about that.
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CatEyes said…
@Wullie'sBucket

You asked what us Nutties think about Lady C's assertions that Diana wasn't a virgin and in fact was an alleged promiscuous young lady, a very young lady. IMO it is an unseemly lie and even more so in that the book was published after Diana's death (I believe).

Flowers Family said…
Wullie'sBucket, that floored me as well. I had never heard that. I do think by the time Charles and Diana married Camilla had been married for several years. According to Lady C., Camilla and her husband agreed to have an open marriage. If I remember right her view is that Charles was not that serious about Camilla at this time. I'm sure we'll never know for sure what happened.
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Flowers Family said…
CatEyes, I didn't get the idea that she was promiscuous but that she slept with men she had a relationship with.
Shaggy said…
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CatEyes said…
@Flowers

Ok I get it but how many men could she had a relationship with before she married Charles? And has no man come forward to say such a thing has me questioning the veracity of the allegation.
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lucy said…
LOL! from ladygreyhound site
https://66.media.tumblr.com/fca6e61b7f6c6252d98f3d587e4c5c1b/385013abf9f48a0f-7f/s1280x1920/24f8aeb6cc9687b99bfbd008a4fbc2adc6b1b4c7.jpg

is it just me or has MM seem rather quiet since fake commencement speech? I haven't been bombed with the usual 12 articles a day
Jdubya said…
Reflecting a media preoccupation at the time of Charles’s engagement, Tina Brown’s biography The Diana Chronicles addresses Diana’s virginity in almost unsettling detail. Brown suggests that Queen Elizabeth chose—or heavily suggested—Diana for her son because the clock was ticking, and young Diana was irresistibly innocent: only 19, with no prior beaux to sell their steamy stories to the tabloids. Nevertheless, the public was fixated on her virginity, or possible lack thereof. Brown writes that the matter “developed a life of its own” after the so-called “Love Train” incident in November 1980, when tabloids reported that Diana had had two late-night meetings with Prince Charles on the Royal Train in Wiltsh
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Rut said…
Some people here should be put on mute.
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The tabloids (not sure about the heavies) in the first instance labelled Diana as a `teacher' when they got engaged in Feb 1982. I saw she was only 19 and went `??????????'

(Dontcha just love it when anyone who works in a school, who isn't cook, caretaker or school secretary, gets called a `teacher'?) Why did I bother with 5 years FT education after I was 18?)

On her wedding day, she had just turned, 20 by 4 weeks.

It's not impossible for an age gap like that to work. My cousin married a chap 10 years older than she when she was only 20 (and he'd been in the Navy for years) and they had a deeply happy long marriage when he died just short of their 60th anniversary.

C & D (I nearly said D&C!) might have qualified for an annulment under Roman Catholic canon law, but it was under CofE/Anglican and English secular law, so having serious misgivings as one walks up the aisle is no grounds for annulment, says she, very ruefully.

Again speaking from experience, I'd say that wanting to call the whole thing off is a major warning signal which should be heeded and one should ignore those who tell you otherwise.
Today is Prince Philip's 99th birthday - I've read that he was born on the kitchen table!

No upstaging attempt? Has MM yet to ask someone to hold her beer?
Maneki Neko said…
@WBB-M

Yes, I've been wondering too. Have faith, it's only 1.42 in LA, there's plenty of time yet.
@Wild Boar
@Maneki

M will probably release a video of herself performing Jay-Z’s 99 Problems.
SwampWoman said…
I hope Prince Philip has a very happy birthday. I've long been very fond of his acerbic and bawdy sense of humor!
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Swamp Woman

Are you guys all right there? All these rumors about defunding police whatever this means make me concerned for our American commentators.

Hope you are fine!
I'm old enough to remember Diana and Charles' engagement and wedding, and I definitely remember the emphasis put on her virginity - I think that Lady C is dead wrong on this. As for Camilla, I believe the main reason the BRF objected to Charles marrying her was the fact that while she was a member of the upper class, she was not an aristocrat, and at the time, it was thought that the heir to the throne had to marry either another royal or an aristocrat. Of course, Lady Diana Spencer was an aristocrat, and we say how that worked out.

Also, Charles was only 22 when he met Camilla, and most likely did not want to make a decision about marriage at such a young age.

On another topic: Prince Philip is 99 years old today, and the DM has published birthday messages from Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine. Nothing from the Sussexes, although it's still early. Or maybe MM is still smarting from Philip's advice to Harry: "One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them". JH should have listened to his grandpa.
Jenx said…
I was the same age as Diana and followed the whole thing closely. I remember distinctly that she had been medically checked and felt horrified for her.

Also I remember hearing, either from her or someone close - one of those ubiquitous sources ' that she felt like a brood mate chosen to breed some height back into the House of Windsor.

Byoncé's deal, eh? 100M with Disney. SoCal earthquake in 3...2...1!!!!
lucy said…
lol the whole Lion King scene was comical enough but what utter humiliation with the "hey my wife does voiceovers" upon hearing of Beyonce's hundred million dollar deal.the cringe is real
Longview said…
The problem with Camilla as a potential wife of the heir to the throne was not that she had lost her virginity. It was that she had too much history; there were too many boys/men out there who would be able to sell salacious tales to the tabloids, about their steamy trysts with Camilla. She was a young woman who embraced her sexuality and enjoyed laughter and love. The RF needed Charles's bride to be relatively unsullied, with no or limited romantic baggage, and free of potential scandal.

Another poster also commented about Diana 'breeding some height into the line'. That wasn't said by Diana, it was a comment made by Prince Philip, who approved of the fact Diana would bring back aristocratic height to the vertically challenged RF.
As I recall, it was reported that the concern was the succession. In the event of Charles dying, Andrew was next in line - his 21st birthday was about the time of the C & D engagement.

The medical examination of Diana was to ensure, as far as possible, that she was not going to prove barren, I gathered. In fact, this has given rise to rumours of W & H having an older sister, by in vitro fertilisation and surrogacy - all highly illegal, if it did in fact take place.

Indy said…
@Fairy Crocadile, I'm in New England. Really 90% if the country is fine. All is quiet and normal mostly. A number if big cities are definitely out if control. Don't think the US is raging racist . We have 330,000,000 people and our media screams out every single incident which is a good thing ,it needs to be known but gives the impression were all gun crazy and racist. Like when Obama called UK racist because you wanted Brexit even though that was boiling for years before the immigration crisis. And many here( mostly liberal media) think UK is racist because of Meghan. Things need to change and a lot needs to improve but most here are fine.SORRY for OT , I just answered someone's concern.
CatEyes said…
@Nutty

It would be very tragic if a poster committed suicide over what 'xxxx' 'CatEyes' (with the generic blogspot avatar) and especially 'Unknwn" posts since the vulnerable victim has asked repeatedly for you to stop them.
Teasmade said…
I also have to speak up for the young Camilla. Someone suggested that Charles may have thought she wasn't pretty enough to have pretty daughters?

She was pretty enough when young (as most of us are!) On here we always regret not being able to post photos. But you can search for them!

Diana had an average face, I thought, before marriage. (Look at the photo where the photographer made her pose so her skirt was transparent.) She had beautiful skin and eyes, nice thick hair, and a wonderful figure. A+. And she benefited greatly from a makeover when all the wealth of the family was made available to her. As well, once she slimmed down a tiny bit, whether from entering her twenties or the eating disorder, her face became more attractive.

And with her extreme youth and that skin, eyes, and hair, she didn't have to use the amount of makeup that Meghan or Kate do. That helped.

I think if Camilla had married at 20 and benefited from the taxpayer-financed beauty care and wardrobe that Diana did, no one would be criticizing her looks. Camilla's children and Diana's children are about equally attractive, I'd say, so if this was the motivation behind choosing Diana, it didn't work so well.
lizzie said…
@Teasmade,

I agree completely. Camilla was an attractive young woman in terms of the standard attractiveness of youth. But more than that, her personality really shone through as it does today.
As anticipated, a backlash has started against BLM demos in UK.

The was one yesterday in a Hertfordshire town I used to know very well. Most of the towns along the lower Lea (or Lee if you insist) Valley are linear settlements, along what used to be the main road to Cambridge. Hoddesdon is the only one with with space for a static demo. Nothing there to upset the woke. (Hoddesdon now has the nickname of little Sicily, from the numbers of southern Italians who settled there in the 50s & 60s.)

Heading south, the main road leads to London, passing through Tottenham, an area tarnished by the hideous murder of PC Keith Blakelock in the Broadwater Estate riots of 1985:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Keith_Blakelock in 1985

A gang of skinheads and others, apparently from Tottenham, turned up at the demo and yelled abuse at the demonstrators.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/black-lives-matter-hertfordshire-protests-racist-abuse-a9557721.html

They seem to have arranged themselves to protect the War Memorial from damage.

It's not clear whether they were locals/had come from Tottenham/or were supporters of Tottenham Hotspur FC, tho' Spurs immediately made a `nothing to do with us, Squire' response.

The Constabulary issued a standard response about not tolerating abuse and investigating the incident.

So far, no major upset has been caused but it is a hint of where this all might go.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Indy

Thank you for your reply. I am very glad to hear 90% of the country is going as usual. Came to like so many people on this blog and really want you to be OK.

Hugs and warm wishes of safety from me to you and all our great Nuttiers.
xxxxx said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8403717/Queen-Prince-Philip-photographed-Windsor-Castle-mark-Dukes-99th-birthday.html

As a pilot, he logged 5,986 hours in 59 types of aircraft.---- Many nice and old photos of Prince Philip and others.

HAPPY 99TH PRINCE PHILIP!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Prodigal daughter back to the fold. I'm over the ignoring thing :) Resistance is futile :)

I would like to join 5X (@xxxxx) in wishing His Royal Highness much happiness on his 99th (!!!) birthday.

Always, and ever, my favorite Royal.
Teasmade said…
Welcome back, Lt! And I agree about Philip.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Ah, you're a good one, @Teasmade :)

You are one of the smarter ones here! Your insight puts me to shame, but I am the first to admit it :) Well, maybe the "second" as I don't know myself as well as I should, don't we all.

Yes .... I am already missing Prince Philip before he is actually gone. What an original.
Maneki Neko said…
Didn't take long for our duo to pop up. According to Katie Nicholl (a fan) in the DM, 'the couple are shifting to focus on Black Lives Matter which is something that 'really resonates' with them both.' They've been focusing their energy on how Covid-19 has affected their charities but is sounds as if this was getting them nowhere so now it's BLM. Apparently, this is something that 'really resonates' and that MM is 'passionate' about. A finger in every pie.

She sees 'herself as 'a role model' who is able to speak on the issue of racial equality.' She likes to think she's a role model anyway. As for speaking on the issue of racial equality, she has caused discord in the UK by calling the BRF and us 'racist' (and 'toxic'). And after years of being Caucasian she's now discovered her black/bi-racial roots?

Omid Scobie states that ' thhis is incredibly personal to Meghan, especially given everything she has experienced.' Everything she's experienced'?? Such as?? The ultra lavish wedding and wardrobe, being welcomed by the BRF (and given special treatment) etc? Ungrateful hypocrite doesn't come near.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Maneki Neko said...
Didn't take long for our duo to pop up.
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No. And this is the odd thing about them I can't figure out. WHY or how can anyone change their minds every five minutes?

(Right, okay, guilty as charged, but not where it counts.)
Aquagirl said…
Changing their cause du jour to BLM seems quite risky to me. It seems obvious (to anyone who would bother to look) that, until MM started ‘dating’ PH, she always passed as Caucasian and she did so by changing her nose, hair, teeth, and probably bleaching her skin. And she only chose pale and stale males. The fact that the Disastrous Duo is now meeting with people at all levels to bring themselves up to speed is completely laughable. I was up-to-speed on these issues by the age of 4. (I’m not kidding.) It’s as if they are just wandering around aimlessly throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. So far, nothing has, and their window of opportunity is closing (or perhaps slamming.)
brown-eyed said…
@Wild. Boar Battle . . .
I remember reading Diana described as a “teacher’s aide,” but never as a full teacher.

@Lt.
Glad you are back. Don’t go away again, please.

Thank you all SO much for your posts. By the time I finish, reading, it is either bed time or a meal time, it seems.
Maneki Neko said…
@Lt Nyota Uhura

Yes, they, or rather, she, can't seem to stick to one thing, or just a few. It's something new every month. Lack of proper interest? Lack of commitment? A need to stay relevant?
Sorry, but this doesn't make them/her sound genuine - you can't be 'passionate' about every single cause, especially when they keep changing.

Pick a few causes and stick with them!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Thanks brown-eyed ... I too have brown eyes :)

I don't remember seeing Diana as being a "teacher." I only remember "teacher's aide." Perhaps a Nutty can provide us with a link.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@Lt Nyota Uhura

Yes, they, or rather, she, can't seem to stick to one thing, or just a few. It's something new every month. Lack of proper interest? Lack of commitment? A need to stay relevant?
Sorry, but this doesn't make them/her sound genuine - you can't be 'passionate' about every single cause, especially when they keep changing.

Pick a few causes and stick with them!
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This has been bothering me since they got engaged.

How can any human being be so detached from life?
SwampWoman said…
@Fairy Crocodile, we are fine, thanks for asking. Most of America is fine. The only places that are not fine is where there are ineffective (?) Democrat governments. Make no mistake, majority black areas have been absolutely devastated in certain locations. The police, when utilized, arrested shopkeepers that were defending their stores with the result that they were looted and burned as soon as the police took the owners away. Mostly police were ordered to standby and let it all burn. What you definitely did NOT see were the Latin areas where the gangs armed with semiautomatic weapons kept the looters away. So did the Muslim areas. There were (majority white) population towns that beat the sh*t out of George Soros' brownshirts, the Antifa, when they came to town.

Now the cities are dealing with the fallout from their (deliberate?) inaction. Burned out stores such as Walmart may not rebuild, although they are being begged to. (If they do, they are going to get HUGE tax incentives. HUGE.) The thing is, though, insurance may not underwrite coverage of businesses in riot areas. No insurance, no business, and that goes for grocery stores, restaurants, garages, hardware stores, etc. The black-owned businesses suffered the most, because they could not imagine that their community would destroy their businesses and probably didn't have insurance coverage for that eventuality.

"Defunding Police" is code for taking the money that funded the police and putting it into social programs that are used to siphon off money and funnel it to people that are connected to the politicians (see New York Mayor Di Blasio's wife as an example)

Sadly, the people that have the most crimes committed against them are the poor blacks which are committed by other poor blacks. You are not supposed to notice that the rich black (and white) politicians live in gated communities with private security companies as well as taxpayer funded police guards and they commit HUGE crimes against the taxpayers.

Where I would like to defund the police (and the police would agree, I believe) is that with the closure of mental hospitals and asylums with no replacements, police and jails have become the reluctant caregivers of the mentally-troubled population. The police are not mental health professionals. The jails and prison should not be the only places available for people with schizophrenia and other mental disorders. Corrections officers are not psychiatrists. Facilities need to be reopened to care for people that cannot care for themselves.

*My community is fine. The police exist to protect the criminals from us, not vice versa.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Swamp Woman --

Two things.

Harriet Tubman packed a weapon.

Money for nothing and your kicks for free.
Mel said…
Wasn't H going to start something in the US to help sounded vets? Or something about mental health for vets in the US?

They've had so many causes that they're passionate about it's hard to keep track.

Although since nothing ever comes of them, it probably doesn't matter.
They're only passionate about them for all of two seconds anyway.
lizzie said…
As I recall, Diana has frequently been referred to as a "kindergarten teacher."

Here are a couple of examples. The first is from 1981.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/11/05/Princess-Diana-the-former-kindergarten-teacher-who-married-Prince/4379373784400/

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/g22549179/princess-diana-life-facts/
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Maneki Neko

People see right through MM. No amount of PR can change that. As for Harry he is really out of his depth there. Who cares what they think? Their PR only, because the longer they are thrashing about the longer the PR will be paid. That is it.

They will continue sinking. Markle's celebrity friends who first learned about her existence when she invited them to her wedding are too busy surviving in the rapidly changing world.


Aquagirl said…
@Fairy Crocodile: Thanks for thinking about all of us Nutties in the US. It’s definitely a strange time to be alive. I had to take a break from the news for a few days. Defunding the police is one of the craziest things that I’ve ever heard. I was watching the head of the city council in Minneapolis being interviewed. The interviewer (rightly so), asked ‘What do I do if my house is broken into in the middle of the night.’ The city council head said that it was ‘White Privilege’ to expect that your house wouldn't be broken into. It was shocking. Does change need to happen? Absolutely, but don’t throw out the baby with the proverbial bath water.

To me, it feels as if there is a witch hunt going on. As an example, beauty companies were asked to reveal how many black, POC, and people who identify as women their companies employ. There was an article that specifically trashed Kylie Jenner, given the family’s history of black appropriation. First off, I believe that the right person should be hired for the job, any job. That being said, Kylie Cosmetics and another company stated that 13% of their employees were black. They were slammed for it. But in actuality, only 13.4% of the US population is black, so this sector is being well-represented. Also, it didn’t seem to matter how many female employees companies had (even in upper management.) The next question was ‘how many female trans employees do you have?’ And on and on it went, with most of the companies apologizing and saying they had to ‘do better.’ This trend makes me uncomfortable at such a deep level. And I speak as someone who has many friends of different races, cultures, religions, and sexual orientations. I found this article utterly despicable, and quite honestly, if you’re going to try to shame people or companies, the results will be hollow and meaningless.


lizzie said…
@SwampWoman wrote:

"Where I would like to defund the police (and the police would agree, I believe) is that with the closure of mental hospitals and asylums with no replacements..."

I agree but it's not just a matter of money being diverted.

One important reason mental hospitals don't exist the way they used to relates to the legalized notion of deinstitutionalization and the requirement treatment be provided in the least restrictive environment. Community mental health vs centralized state institutions/asylums. Sounded good, civil liberties and all, just like mainstreaming in educational settings sounded good. But it doesn't work in reality.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@Lt Nyota Uhura

Yes, they, or rather, she, can't seem to stick to one thing, or just a few. It's something new every month. Lack of proper interest? Lack of commitment? A need to stay relevant?
Sorry, but this doesn't make them/her sound genuine - you can't be 'passionate' about every single cause, especially when they keep changing.

Pick a few causes and stick with them!
_________________________________


This has been bothering me since they got engaged.

How can any human being be so detached from life?

June 10, 2020 at 6:45 PM

Jeeze not sure why this is happening.

Happened in another site.

It has been fooling people, but not sure why.

THIS IS NOT ME.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
There has got to be place to protect mentally impaired people.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Eh, well, tho I love this site, I will continue to come. I figure if anyone thinks I am authentic, then they will know I am.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Jeeze. What the hell. Why is someone messing with my account?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Yeah, I know I will be confused with Cat Eyes. I can assure you it is NOT me, no way of proof, sigh... a code, maybe. I will have to think. Jeeze, just when I thought I could come back.
Sandie said…
This is how fertility is checked by the NHS (and some of these tests may not have been available in the early 1980s). These are tests and examinations and investigations done if a woman has failed to conceive after a year (most women do not have a problem and so that is the default position ... we imagine that infertility is a huge problem because women are having children much later in life and so there is more time for infertility issues to develop).

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/infertility/diagnosis/

Here are the statistics for today for all couples:

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Around 1 in 7 couples may have difficulty conceiving. ( Difficulty does not mean that they cannot conceive.)

About 84% of couples will conceive naturally within a year if they have regular unprotected sex (every 2 or 3 days). (That is just over 8 out of 10, but it does not mean that those who do not conceive cannot but it does mean they may need extra help to do so.)

For couples who have been trying to conceive for more than 3 years without success, the likelihood of getting pregnant naturally within the next year is 1 in 4, or less. (Still could conceive but may need some help.)
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The story about Diana being checked for fertility is bogus ... a made-up story that everyone accepts and repeats without question.

1. There is no actual fertility test (other than one to check if you are ovulating or not but simply producing eggs is not always enough for a successful pregnancy), but there are tests that can be done to check for conditions that are known to adversely affect fertility and carrying a baby to term.

2. All these tests take time. At what stage were these tests supposed to have been done? One assumes that would be after the proposal. There was a delay in announcing the engagement (as there always is with a royal engagement), so theoretically there was time between the proposal and the announcement, but was it enough time (at most it was 10 days)? Nope!

3. Do you really think the proposal went something like this: Will you marry me? Yes. Wonderful, now you have to be checked to make sure you are fertile and can fall pregnant and have children, although there is no actual test that can be done so you will be checked for anything that may cause fertility issues and we will then assess the results and decide if you are at risk of not being able to conceive and give birth to a child. Oh. If a problem is found, I cannot marry you. Oh!

4. The male can be the cause of the inability to conceive, but no one talks about Charles being tested.

5. When the marriage soured, Diana got her story out in various ways. Do you really think she would not have spoken about being tested if that was what happened? She did say she felt like a brood mare but NEVER spoke about any tests or any kind of examination.

The chances of Charles and Diana being unable to have children were very small ... negligible. If that turned out to be the case, Charles had 3 siblings (Andrew was well thought of at the time). History is littered with examples of the heir to the throne not being the child of the sovereign and the Queen had more than enough spares. Just because Diana said she felt like a brood mare does not mean she was seen as such in the royal family.
"Katie revealed the Duke and Duchess have been focusing on the pandemic during lockdown, and putting their energy into how COVID-19 has impacted their charities and patronages."

Hmm... Correction needed?

Delete `charities and patronages', insert `income'?



My other Duke of Edinburgh story (not `Where's our bloody monarch got to this time?') - it's How Naval Officers Got A Sensible No 1 Dress Uniform For The Tropics:

It was Dinner Night in the Wardroom (Officers' Dining Room). All were in the regulation garb - monkey jackets, stiff wing collars, collars & bow ties. It was sweltering.

Prince Philip suddenly announced `This, gentlemen, is bloody ridiculous!'

Whereupon he removed his jacket, rolled up his sleeves, removed his tie and opened the neck of his shirt. Everyone else, to their great relief, had to do the same (as per George II and the Hallelujah Chorus).

Well, that's the story anyway.


Re Diana's `teacher' status - I was quoting the very first reports - even qualifying the noun as `kindergarten teacher'is not on. It's like calling a first aider `doctor'.

By 1981, teaching in England was well on the way to becoming a graduate profession. Many Certificated Teachers who had qualified at Teacher Training Colleges converted their status to that of graduates by further study, and exams, with the Open University.

Calling Diana a `teacher', even if the word `kindergarten' is added, falsely elevated her educational and intellectual status, even if it was the result of sloppy reporting. She did not have Qualified Teacher Status - I felt I had been conned by the first reports - until they mentioned her age, when it was obvious she could not have QTS. Kindergarten teachers are no different from other teachers when it comes to qualifications.
@Sandie

Leaving aside that the RF wouldn't have to rely on the NHS, I take your point. I hadn't heard that it was a Diana fib.
Teasmade said…
Okay, but but . . . Given that the system of royalty has persisted and promoted itself through superior and specific birth, birthing children IS how it is perpetuated. They are only "better" than we are as a result of to whom they were born. That is the only difference. So every royal bride IS there for this purpose. Let's be honest.

This may or may not have anything to do with romantic feelings. Can we just assume that throughout history it's been maybe 50-50 love vs practicality? (I'm feeling generous.) This is one reason that royal men were expected/allowed to have mistresses.

It's a shame that both Diana and Charles were stuck in this situation, probably just at the cusp of great changes. Previous generations weren't able to shack up before marriage. Previous generations cared, or seemed to care, about virginity. Previous generations didn't have DNA testing in case doubts were raised. They certainly didn't have IVF, real-looking dolls, or graduated sizes of fake bellies to fake a pregnancy.

All subsequent generations will have these advantages, as well as unforeseen ones (assuming that royalty persists to the time of George.)

Okay as usual no one asked for this editorial. TLDR: Diana WAS a brood mare; twas ever thus.



SwampWoman said…
Um, wouldn't that make all of us that have children broodmares?
SwampWoman said…
WBB-m, I knew there was a reason I liked Philip!
hunter said…
I always agree with @Aquagirl on pretty much everything.
Teasmade said…
Yes, Swamp, but our very existence and continuation of way of life doesn't depend on reproduction. Or maybe I should say the stakes aren't as high. Well--there are no stakes, really. If one of us commoners forgets to reproduce for a generation, <.
Flowers Family said…
Thanks for all of the responses to my posts. A lot of you are so good at expressing your thoughts and I truly enjoy reading them. I struggle to put my thoughts into words.

As far as M&H. When they got married, I remember telling my mom that I wanted to like her but that there was just something that bothered me. I didn't know what. I think a lot of us pick up on things that others don't. BLM shouldn't let her anywhere near their cause. Her screams of racism just hurt the cause to help those who have really experienced it.

I hope everyone has a great day.
KnitWit said…
My aunt has a favorite quote about marriage, " MARRIAGE is a BUSINESS for ADULTS". The emphasis is hers. She " married well" and paid the price. I made different choices. Neither lives worked out as planned.

Both Charles/Di and Harry/Meg had conflicting expectations. They both rushed into marriage. Both couples live/d in the limelight. Both brought children into unhealthy relationships. I hope the rumours that the video Archie/s are not living with these two goofballs.

Interesting if the Harry/Adele drinking rumours are true. That could work. He could "get even" with MM by leaving her for a bigger "star". Without M's shopping bills, JH should be able to pay his own security and Frogmore without burdening the taxpayers. Adele/Harry could clean up, dress up, and attend each other's public functions. The British public may begin to forgive JH. Adele/JH could continue until one falls for someone else. Hope royal probably is reading if they are looking for JH exit strategies. Would MM have a title if divorced?

What advice would you give JH?
Teasmade said…
@Knit: Adele is independently wealthy, as well. Maybe even comes with her own security team! And probably gets along with her family, too. Thanks for introducing a unique, innovative solution. : )
KCM1212 said…
@it Uhura

Welcome back LT! Doesn't matter how many dopplegangers are along for the ride.

@Flowers Family
I do agree with you on BLM and MM. She cheapens everything she touched and makes what's true false.

I wish everyone of the people at Oprahs town hall would call her, and all those who use cries of"racism" falsely in order to further themselves, out. She and those like her do nothing but further divide people who are trying to come together.

I can't believe they let her hypocrisy ride.
But I'll bet there are whispers. And those whispers will destroy her (and her little dog Scobie) too!

Why isn't there more outrage at the fake commencement address?



Aquagirl said…
Thanks,@Hunter! Hope all is well!
KnitWit said…
They both could use a media boost. Adele would move past press about the divorce and hanging out with rappers. Harry could hang out in the pub in US or UK or less ce privately as he chooses. MM could blow a gasket, preferably on video.

Adele/Harry could do press like the vomit inducing Blake/Gwen matchup.....sympathetic friend following acrimonious divorce. If there is a real Artificial in LA, Harry/Adele/kids/security could get "caught" at the science museum, Whole Foods, the Getty museum or some appropriate upscale venue to appease the press. Then they can go about their lives within their secure enclave.

The story would work as friends or lovers, preferably vague. They can do the Brad/Jen are they it aren't they indefinitely.

MM can slut around and nab a billionaire ( isn't that inflation, no need wants millionaires any more, bless their greedy hearts)
Teasmade said…
PS all: That bit about Adele was satire, although I stand by the facts.

I really can't think of a suitable partner for him.
Grumpy Kat said…
KCM1212 said...
@it Uhura

Welcome back LT! Doesn't matter how many dopplegangers are along for the ride.

Why isn't there more outrage at the fake commencement address?
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Thanks KCM1212 :)

Dunno, but I'm not thrilled about a phoney. Altho, they may think twice if they saw me, LOL

Why isn't there more outrage? Good question. I really don't get it. It seems so glaringly obvious that it would blind one.

I have a theory about Markle. She was raised wrong, or at least is a "bad seed." Maybe both. Dad thought the world of her, apparently, and she took advantage of it, if that makes sense.

Pantsface said…
Pleased to see some old posters back, I don't contribute much but enjoy reading their take on things. Today I am sad as I have been accused of being racist (not here), because I disagree with the kneeling malarky, I wouldn't nor would expect anyone to kneel except perhaps in church, am I missing something? Perhaps I am and would like to be enlightened, I get the symbolic message about the cop and GF, is that what it is?
KnitWit said…
If Di had premarital sex, it would probably have been with a serious boyfriend in the royal set. Gentlemen don't tell tales. However, if she wanted to be a princess, she may have remained a " technical virgin" to increase her desireability.
jessica said…
Oh I like the idea of Adele dating PH!!!! Especially that he has stepped away from being royal. They both have kids, they both like to party, they are both well loved by the UK, and somewhat in the Us (neutral). What’s there not to love about that PR matchup. Plus if I remember they are already ‘friends’.

Side note: MM would never nab a billionaire, look at her. Harry had his ‘reasons’ for getting with her, which I’m not going to elaborate on other than where he wanted to live. She’ll be old news soon enough to him.
If MM ‘dates’ billionaires like Lindsay Lohan, it would be for money and that’s it, and foreign interest. Plus, she’s getting too old without a solid past to fly in that realm. If she was older and a stand up person, different story- there are always good dating markets for people like that.
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SwampWoman said…
Pantsface, I kneel to nobody. I wouldn't worry about it.
KCM1212 said…
I saw a video of a protester make a woman kneel and "apologize for her white privilege". It made me sick, frankly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fb-esBBFbsU
SwampWoman said…
I have to say that those congressional critters kneeling look like a cultural appropriation pander party.
SwampWoman said…
Or maybe they're offering blow jobs for votes. Hard to tell.
KCM1212 said…
@swampwoman

ROFL!!!!

Hikari said…
We've revisited a lot of the painful past stories of the Wales marriage, but I would like to provide one that shows a lighter-hearted event in the marriage of Charles and Diana. Certainly Charles comes off rather well in it. It is compliments of Stephen Fry, British comedy legend of Fry & Laurie and Jeeves & Wooster fame. Despite being a theatrical type, SF is a staunch Royalist. He and best mate Hugh Laurie also attended the alma mater of the Prince of Wales, so they are fellow Cantabs. The following anecdote was in Fry's autobiography (one of several) called "More Fool Me."

Mr. Fry has an estate in Norfolk, just a stone's throw from Sandringham. He had become acquainted with Charles through some benefit gala or other, I think--that part's hazy. But Charles has always been an avid patron and supporter of the arts, and they met on several occasions. Mr. Fry mentioned that he was a near neighbor to Sandringham and had extended an invitation to the Prince of Wales to visit him at home for tea sometime . . as one does, haha. He really didn't think any more about it for a few months or more. Flash forward to a few days before New Year, 1988. Fry was hosting a holiday house party for several old friends, including the Lauries and Rowen Atkinson. One morning while everyone else was still abed nursing hangovers, the phone went. The master of the house was feeling rather snappish when he answered. It was rather early, being on the wrong side of noon.

SF: Yes!
Caller: (pause) . . . Er, yes, is that Mr. Fry?
SF: Yes . . .?
Caller: Hallo, it's the Prince of Wales here. I was wondering, if the invitation for tea still stands, would New Year's Day suit you?
SF: . . .Oh, come off it, Nigel . . I know it's you.
Caller: Er . . .

Once it was established that Fry was not being pranked by 'Nige', the time was set for a Royal visit for tea, a couple of days hence. The Caller rang off, but said, "Would it be all right if I brought my wife?"

Yes, it was certainly all right! Say what you want about Charles, but he has manners.

Then commenced a frantic round of housecleaning and general furore. Rowan Atkinson was put in charge of manically Hoovering the stair carpet. Then Charles's RPOs came by to check that the Prince and Princess of Wales would not be visiting a terror cell or hotbed of Communism. Everything checked out and the Royal couple came for tea. Charles was a jolly good conversationalist, while his wife dazzled all the men present and confided that as soon as she got back to Sandringham she was going to go up to her rooma and watch 'Spitting Image' which she greatly enjoyed.

All in all, a successful visit during which the Waleses charmed everyone in the room and showed no signs of taking chunks out of each other. It must have been one of the better periods, or else they were just being holiday troupers . .but SF has been cherishing that memory for decades.
xxxxx said…
No kneeling here either. I think this frenzy is good for another week. Strangely enough, a lot of it is a reaction to being cooped up for weeks with virus fears. It spread to England too, with some large crowds and statues being torn down.

It's interesting to read about the past regarding C & D as I am not old enough to know about their early history. It must be (still) difficult for both William and Harry to hear about their parents turbulent relationship and relationships with others.

I think history is being rewritten regarding Charles and Camilla. Camilla is Charles' one and only love? I think it is/was common knowledge Charles had a couple (at least) of sidepieces along with Camilla whilst married to Diana. They fit in when needed in his schedule and his needs and the press never reported on his affairs. Camilla was top dog but I suspect she never really wanted to divorce from APB.

Camilla spends a lot of time apart in her own home Gloustcestershire and not much at Highgrove and always has done. Perhaps that is the secret to their relationship.

Welcome back Lt. Uhura and other posters.
Martha said…
KCM1212
You’re right! Why is there no backlash? The dog&pony show is still being lauded on various sites. I’m utterly baffled.
And insofar as these protests, complete with kneeling, go they depict crowd mentality...at its worst.
I read somewhere that authoress Emily Giffin has again apologized to Meagain for calling her out in the book reading video. We’re living in an inauthentic world, I think, in which one is castigated for uttering an opinion.
Grumpy Kat said…
This is me, thanking you GVB. Not sure why I am appearing as unknown.

Lt. Nyota Uhura
SwampWoman said…
Hikari, wonderful anecdote re Stephen Fry and the Wales'.
Shaggy said…
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Fairy Crocodile said…
Swamp Woman, KCM1212, XXXXX

These people do not understand one striking thing. Political agenda may work and they will manage to screw Trump's chance for a second term. But Trump will be in chocolate for the rest of his life even if he loses. He and his family will be protected forever. He is rich, he is incredibly well connected, his children will eat from gold. Heck, he will probably enjoy a less stressful life writing memoirs.

It is us, the normal people who will have to live with the demon of racial division they set free. Whoever comes to the office, even if it is the ultra liberal socialist, he or she will not be able to control the anger that had been cleverly fed. There will be more mistrust, prejudice and division than before, not less.

Unfortunately once it is started there is no way back.
Grumpy Kat said…
Fairy Crocodile said...
Swamp Woman, KCM1212, XXXXX
__________________

Aren't we meant to not be political on here? One of the reasons I love this site.

Not meaning to offend. Politics are so depressing.

Lt. Nyota Uhura
Shaggy said…
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lt. Nyota

Yes, I apologize for bringing up politics and naming politicians.

Kind of hard to resist because Markle ventured into politics and activism. I can't separate her from her agenda, because this is what she is using her royal connection for - political stance.

I will try my best not to go into this again. Sorry.
Grumpy Kat said…
@Lt. Nyota

Yes, I apologize for bringing up politics and naming politicians.

Kind of hard to resist because Markle ventured into politics and activism. I can't separate her from her agenda, because this is what she is using her royal connection for - political stance.

I will try my best not to go into this again. Sorry.
_____________________________

No need to apologise.

I totally understand.

The problem is La Markle seems to latch onto political problems in her endless quest to achieve "immortality."

This is beyond anger inducing. It veers into the realms of .... well... right.

Lt. Nyota Uhura

lucy said…
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Grumpy Kat said…
Why is the writing so HUGE on this page? LOL
KCM1212 said…
My apologies as well

The topic itself is MM inserting herself into political realms. It's hard to not see the false narratives playing out everywhere.

But I will abstain.
Thanks for the reminder, LT.
Sandie said…
@SwampWoman said...
@Hikari, wonderful anecdote re Stephen Fry and the Wales
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Ditto. I enjoy those long posts that tell a story very much!
Pantsface said…
@Hikairi - what estate does Stephen Fry own? I am from Norfolk UK and know where his current house is - certainly not an estate, perhaps he's been liberal with the truth or maybe back in the day he had an estate, but his current home does not neighbour Sandringham, not far granted but certainly but not neighbouring
jessica said…
The problem Markle has re:politics in America is a)leaving America b)marrying royalty and c) her husband being a Nazi sympathizer.
Mischief Girl said…
Love the Stephen Fry story, Hikari!!

As I've said on this blog before, and I'll repeat now hearing the Harkles want to focus on BLM now: STOP chasing the cause du jour! It makes you look foolish and insincere.

Either wounded veterans rocks your world, or it doesn't. Either you want to focus on Covid, or you don't. BLM? Seriously? When $mirks self-identified as Caucasian until it suited her not to?

Please, these two are just throwing subjects around to see which one sticks.

I have many interests, but only one that moves my heart and soul (elder care, in case anyone is curious). It's been a passion for 15+ years. Either something moves you emotionally, or it doesn't. The Harkles' chasing today's Hot Topic is just annoying and fake as....

P.S. CDAN posted a blind item that Queen Bey is all set to sign on Disney's dotted line for a gig that MM would have given her eye teeth to have. I find this situation quite amusing, as Bey was standing right next to Iger at The Lion King event when 'H' ("I call him 'H'")--gag-- was dropping huge hints: "My wife does voice over work."

You can't make this stuff up!
lizzie said…
I guess I was kind of oblivious about the ramifications of Harry speaking to Iger at the Lion King event about Meghan. Animated films aren't really my thing and honestly, neither is Beyonce (although I think she has talent, just not my cup of tea.)

Yeah I thought it was tacky for a senior member of the BRF to be publicly begging for movie jobs for his (IMO) completely untalented wife, I thought H&M's presence at the event was awful given it meant Harry's absence at the Deal event, I thought it was unconscionable to put Iger on the spot.... But with @Mischief Girl's post it finally clicked to me....Duh, the event was (partly) celebrating Beyonce's voice work and here comes Harry saying (in effect) "my wife can do that too!" No wonder everybody present looked shocked! That's kind of like announcing a pregnancy at someone else's wedding....oh wait...

And BTW, Beyonce's potential Disney deal is being reported everywhere now.
just sayin' said…
I was wondering what sort of character Beyonce could play in 3 separate films, and then it occurred to me - super hero!

Remember the story going around in early Spring that MM wanted to play a super hero?
jessica said…
@Lizzie

OMG. How did I completely miss the fact that Harry begged for voiceover work as if ‘everyone’ can do it, in front of Beyonce HERSELF at HER EVENT FOR HER WORK!!!! Omg. Truly.

Beyond that social faux pax (he’s lucky as f he is a prince), he missed the Veterans event as a Military Leader, AND it was only a month after she had Archie.

She should have been at home, and he should have been at the Veterans event.

I think that moment encapsulated who they are and their deluded priorities. This is why no one likes them. They are disgusting and act like cockroaches.
lucy said…
anyone see or hear of H&M publicly wishing Prince Philip a Happy Birthday?
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@lucy

There's an article on DM that says they spoke to him but there was no public tribute to his birthday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8407155/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Archie-spoke-Prince-Philip-wish-happy-99th-birthday.html

Considering Prince Philip's no BS attitude, I wonder if he told them NOT to make an announcement?
lucy said…
thanks shadee!
lizzie said…
@lucy asked 

"anyone see or hear of H&M publicly wishing Prince Philip a Happy Birthday?"

No. But DM is reporting Carolyn Durand (of Finding Freedom) says H, M, & Archie called him for a "private" video call.
Henrietta said…
Sandie said...

The story about Diana being checked for fertility is bogus ... a made-up story that everyone accepts and repeats without question.

Diana herself confirmed it.
Grumpy Kat said…
lizzie said...
@lucy asked

"anyone see or hear of H&M publicly wishing Prince Philip a Happy Birthday?"

No. But DM is reporting Carolyn Durand (of Finding Freedom) says H, M, & Archie called him for a "private" video call.
_________________________

Well, I did.
Grumpy Kat said…
Ugh, this is tiresome.

I am not "unknown," I am Lt. Nyota Uhura.

And I wish His Royal Highness Prince Philip (again) a very happy 99th birthday.

Lt. Nyota Uhura
jessica said…
I saw the DM article about the birthday wishes today, but noticed the DM had low priority for it. Side bar, about 20 articles down.

Either they aren’t paying enough, or they aren’t getting clicks anymore. Noticed a lower engagement over the last 2 weeks on all their PR efforts at DM- less comments.

I think as the year goes on, people are just not interested in the Royals that Quit.

Funny enough, in line at the supermarket I saw a tabloid, don’t remember which? Maybe Us Weekly? But only one out of the 20 had them on the cover and it was about the fact they Grift and now Charles is in Deep financial trouble trying to support them LOL. I would be humiliated if I was megs, ran errands, and saw that being the cover! So, no, the Us public seems to be onboard with the continued hate press towards the duo.

Going to be hard for them to come back from their reputations, whatsoever.
Lenore said…
Hi guys! Very long-time lurker. I just wanted everyone to know the Lady Campbell book is available again on Amazon US. Sorry if I missed a comment about this, but I wanted to make sure we can all read the book and discuss it! It’s supposed to be released on July 28th. I really can’t wait!
lizzie said…
@Unknown wrote:

lizzie said...
@lucy asked 

"anyone see or hear of H&M publicly wishing Prince Philip a Happy Birthday?"

No. But DM is reporting Carolyn Durand (of Finding Freedom) says H, M, & Archie called him for a "private" video call.
_________________________

Well, I did.


Did what? Reading that a source told Carolyn Durand (who then tweeted it) that they wished PP a happy birthday privately by video isn't quite the same as publicly wishing him a happy birthday. Maybe I'm missing something?

Of course, without a SM platform H&M may not have had a way to convey their wishes publicly. After all, all their recent public pronouncements have been put out by others.
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties!

So funny that Queen Bey got the super massive Disney deal! Also, I was half expecting to hear if MM was on the Oprah special last night--nope. The second half of the show is tonight, waiting to see--although I suspect by now it would have made the news at least on East Coast time. I guess the Duo was too busy with video calls to other important people or maybe they did not want to be "away" from Archie. What bandwagon will they jump on next? I am surprised MM did put her two cents in re the whole JK Rowling trans/woman row. I guess there is always the second series (if there is one) of her pal's tv series, I Do, Redo. Personally, I think the only way out is for MM to adopt an African baby just like her idol, Angelina or possible friend, Madonna.
Lenore said…
@SwampWoman— you’re very welcome! Hope I wasn’t too late to the party with that info! I’m just glad I was able to purchase my copy in Meghan hate solidarity 🤣!
Sandie said…
@Henrietta:

Could you provide a reference please? You state that Diana herself confirmed that she had been tested for fertility before marriage to Charles. Please supply the reference of where she said this (not some person saying that she said this, but Diana herself actually 'confirming that she had fertility treatments before she cold marry Charles' as you claim).

Please explain how this could have been practically possible considering my explanation of why it was not. What were these fertility tests she had done in 1981?

Have a look at what is available today in terms of 'testing fertility'. The idea that after Diana accepted the proposal, she had all these tests done (even some, as most were probably not available in 40 years ago) is absurd. As you can see, there is no absolute test for fertility, but, when pregnancy does not happen, we can look for problems that could affect fertility (in both partners) and start by addressing those problems:

https://americanpregnancy.org/getting-pregnant/female-fertility-testing/

No professional, self-respecting doctor would have done any kind of test on Diana then nor today.

There were no fertility tests. Diana never said that she did have to undergo any fertility tests. And I was mistaken in saying that Diana said she was treated as/seen as a brood mare. Others put those words in her mouth, but Diana herself never said that.
Magatha Mistie said…
Megs & Harry, No - Hoprahs ....
jessica said…
Hi Leonore,

I just checked my amazon US for the Lady Campbell book and it shows as available to read on Amazon Kindle on JUNE 25TH!

Exciting.
Crumpet said…
@ Magatha!

Your pithy poetry is prophetic!

Shaggy said…
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Laurence Fox is a brave man - we need more of his kind.

I kneel for God - and for the Queen, should the occasion arise.

As for the Duchess of Sussex, even if she were with H, she wouldn't get get so much as a `housemaid's bob' out of me (learnt for my first role in a play at infants school - my `lines` were `Yes, M'm').
Funny how the myths about `loss of purity' survive. Or is it about the survival of sperm?

My parents in the 1930s adopted a spaniel bitch that had escaped whilst she was on heat and had had a litter of crossbred pups. She was deemed not longer fit for breeding on account of it. Biological nonsense.

Yet nobody would dream of preventing a widow from remarrying - and MM had been married at least once before.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Crumpet

Cheers, back atcha 😉
Hikari said…
@Pantsface,

Re. my rendition of Stephen Fry’s story

It was I and not Stephen who gilded the lily a bit and called his house ‘an estate’. It’s been a few years since I read his book, but I’m sure he called it a house. He never stipulated the number of his rooms or the size of his acreage, but I figured it had to be a pretty good size, considering that Steve has done pretty well for himself professionally, and was hosting at least half a dozen other people who were equally wealthy for a Christmas house party, and he was proud enough of it to invite the Prince of Wales for tea. I found a picture online. Not the equivalent of a Royal estate but certainly a nice little pile.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cameron_self/3459011882

I am entirely ignorant of the geography of Norfolk and can’t recall if Mr. Fry included the exact mileage from Sandringham to his place. I used “Stones Throw” metaphorically. Since you’re there on the ground, how far would that be? I am assuming a fairly easy drive in the car, since Charles was willing to visit on New Year’s Day, as presumably it wasn’t going to eat up the entire afternoon to get there and back. Where I come from, driving an hour to get somewhere is no big deal. Those embellishments were mine and not Mr. Fry’s, though I’m sure Stephen might say why let dull facts get in the way of a good story? I believe that Charles and Diana came for tea to his on New Year’s Day in 1988, but I do have my wonderment as to whether he actually called the prince of Wales “Nigel”.

Norfolk sounds like a very interesting county and I’d love to hear more about it.
Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar

The only role Megs mastered, “housemaid’s bob”
That’s why we’re in this mess now!!
Hikari said…
@Lizzie, Jessica and all

I have recently discovered YouTube Vlogger ‘According2Taz’ Who specializes in all things Harry and Meghan. She is British and has an entertaining perspective. She showed us the map from Deal in Kent to London, And said it was only about two hours by car, and that Harry could have taken a helicopter back to London to make both events. Perhaps he tried that, but was denied, seeing as the Lion King premiere wasn’t really considered a royal engagement. There was nothing royal about how they looked or behaved on that urine yellow carpet. When we learned that the project that came out of this shameful panhandling for work was a short documentary film called Elephant, I confess I laughed. Was that a sly reference on the part of Bob Iger to how Meghan looked vacuum packed into that stiff horror with the straining zipper? That thing looked like a goth prom Halloween costume, And it was at least two sizes too small.

I know, I am such a monster for body shaming a postpartum mother. (Right.)

Not Meg’s idea of her triumphant return to the acting business, I’m sure. I hope that someday soon, Disney will be released this movie with its original narration provided by Sigourney Weaver. I feel incredibly gypped that we are all missing out on her work. Somehow I don’t think Meg’s effort will be rating a DVD. Those would just end up in landfills with all the unsold Duke and Duchess of Sussex wedding Merch.
Magatha Mistie said…

Saint Megs is our new saviour
despite her past behaviour
To shill and screech
beyond her reach
Is par for the course
for our unknown source

This makes us sit and ponder
Who is this wench
who stirs up stench
Then wonders why were no fonder
Magatha Mistie said…
@Hikari

The urine coloured carpet hahaha
represented their yellow brick road to LA
The Wicked Witch of West Hollywood,
her Cowardly Lion, & their Munchkin.
All smoke and mirrors, in toto...
Crumpet said…
@Magatha!

Love how you use the brilliant and devastating Hikari observations in your wicked poetry. You are on a roll or on something!
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

In flying form again :). "Housemaid's bob". You're incorrigible!! 🤣
Maneki Neko said…
@ Hikari

Very entertaining account of PC's visit to SF, thank you.

His 'estate' is about 20 km from the Sandringham estate. Norfolk is very pretty, full of very picturesque towns and villages. Well worth a visit if you're ever in that part of the world.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Crumpet @Maneki Neko

Thanks, enjoying myself whist roasting chicken 😉
and a crimson goblet, or two..
Nelo said…
Jessica Muloreny has been outed for being a racist. She made efforts to destroy a black influencer's career because she was told to speak up against racism.

https://t.co/JqoUJA679W
Maneki Neko said…
Sorry, me again.
While scrolling through the DM, I saw a CCN (not CNN!) story abt our duo saying Meg was going to ditch H. More speculation than an assertion. The introduction says 'I think Meghan Markle will ditch Prince Harry if he doesn't fall in line with her Hollywood ambitions. He's already talking about leaving L.A.' The best thing for him but we shall see. There is a photo montage with MM in her Deal or no deal days and H, William and the Queen that says it all.
The comments largely reflect what we think.

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-going-ditch-prince-harry-heres-why/
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Nelo -- We will see if Markle throws her BFF under the bus.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Maneki Neko said...

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-going-ditch-prince-harry-heres-why/
__________________________

Well, we all thought so, but still. The element of surprise!
Magatha Mistie said…
@Maneki

I’ve been getting “pop ups” all day re Megs dumping Harry?
Ignored them, maybe... Hoprahing..

As for Stephen Fry, love him, very erudite.
Would get on well with Prince Charles.

Magatha Mistie said…
As for Diana, I do remember a quote that
“She had to keep herself tidy” before marriage.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Yes! I remember that phrase now! ('Keep herself tidy’)
Apologies if this has already been posted - I may have missed it:

https://blindgossip.com/i-have-a-speech/
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Already in the mainstream.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11835765/meghan-markle-jessica-mulroney-white-privilege-apology/
Fairy Crocodile said…
Re Diana's pre nup check up. She loved theatrics. Virgins do gynecological check ups too, just without a full vaginal. I did.

There is a big difference between a health check and a special evil virginity test of a poor sacrificial lamb Diana portrayed.



Leela said…
@MagathaMistie We all love it when you get on a roll. Your “housemaid’s bob” gave me a much-needed belly laugh. Thanks for all your lovely poetic contributions. I’m a lurker but I see most all that goes thru here. To quote Van Morrison, “Poetic Champions Compose” you’re our Poetic Champion.
The DM has a most interesting story this morning. There's a peek inside Omid Scobie's bio Finding Freedom, saying that the duo had planned Megxit even BEFORE the wedding. It tries to pin the blame for the decision on Harry, saying that he had been "deeply unhappy" about being in the BRF even before he met MM, but - holy smokes! So they accepted the titles, the extravagant wedding, very expensive wardrobe, renovations to Frogmore and all the rest - at taxpayer expense - knowing they had no intention of being working royals? So right from the beginning, they planned to grab all the goodies they could and flee, doing it in the most hurtful manner possible. This is the very definition of bad faith.

I don't believe that Megxit was Harry's idea; I think that MM had plans from the beginning and exploited his unhappiness to get him on board. However, I'm not going to give him a pass. Yes, he's not very bright, he has mental health issues and is married to a manipulative, controlling spouse, but - dammit! Doesn't he have any moral compass? Is he like his uncle Andrew, seemingly unable to distinguish right from wrong?

The Queen can take away their Sussex titles and at this point I think she should - the British public will be on her side. Enough is enough, and this is too much. Harry will always be HRH Prince Henry of Wales, that is his birthright, but take away the HRH and Duchess of Sussex titles from Megsy.
abbyh said…

CCN story about JH wanting to leave LA/MM will leave unless he falls inline with her HW ambitions ... oh man (spin, spin, spin). That comes off as he is a 2 yo who is being willfully disobedient as those 2 year olds tend to be and it could easily be a way to undercut the DM article about how they discussed Megxit before marriage (in the exclusive interviews in the explosive Omid book).

JM/Sasha Exeter kurfuffle about JM failing to fall into/under Sasha's line. There is a big difference between not understanding the problem and not responding to it as someone wanted them to. JM understood it but she chose to support other interests she has supported in the past. That does not mean she was trying to stop Sasha's involvement or sway as an influencer. It just meant she feels closer to other needs in the world.

In theory, we all still have choice to support or not support a cause and it doesn't mean that we think this or that is not worthwhile, it means we feel closer to something else. I feel closer to special needs as we have some special needs people in the family. All needs need to be supported and if we don't offer choice, we a) are running a dictatorship b) other needs will not be met and that will cause more than discomfort/problems for those people which could make them the "new" underdog which uniting to force social disruption/upheaval to bring about change ... so wouldn't it be better to have a system where, through diversity of choice, the chance is to meet everyone's needs?

And, as we all know, MM is not the biggest name out there within the black community with name recognition linked to JM.

Nutty Flavor said…
Hello all. Sorry I haven't been around much. Meghan hasn't been too busy, and I have. I'll put up a new post in an hour or so.
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