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Meghan loves taking pictures. What photos does she have of Harry?

The most interesting news about the Sussexes this week hasn't been about the Sussexes.

It's been the ugly case of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, as their volatile relationship is dragged through the court system as part of a civil trial in Depp's case against The Sun newspaper.

Several humiliating photos of Depp have appeared in court, including one of him passed out and covered in melted ice cream.

In addition, several obviously staged photos have been introduced into evidence, including a very neat photo of some nicely-arranged lines of cocaine on a glass table near several other attractively posed objects.

Perhaps Depp got Martha Stewart to cater his orgies. Or perhaps Amber set him up.

As a regular reader of Mail Online, Meg can't help but notice.

Blogger Meg and her camera

Meg has had an interest in taking photos of the Royal Family since the very beginning.

There has long been a rumor that she was tossed out of Kensington Palace and sent back to Canada while dating Harry, after a staffer caught her taking photos of a private area of the palace.

It's also not hard to imagine that Meg's fondness for taking photos was one reason the Cambridges did not want the Sussexes to live next door to them at Kensington Palace. 

The Cambridges are very careful about the privacy of their three children. Would you want blogger Meg to live next door?

What photos does Meg have?

Given that Meg has been living with Harry for nearly three years now - and that Harry is a known drug user and heavy drinker - it seems likely that she has some photos as embarrassing as the Depp images that she could threaten to release as part of a court case. 

Photos of passed-out, pants-wet Harry, or video of a drunken Harry saying God knows what about his father or brother, would be terrible for the image of the Royal Family. 

Concept: Meg insists on getting her way when it comes to a monetary settlement, custody settlement, or specific title, using the photos as leverage - with or without a court case.

Of course, aristocracy has been behaving badly for centuries. But as little as 50 years ago, they could largely impose upon the British press not to print unflattering images.

In the age of social media, that's no longer true. 

A few taps on the keyboard and Harry's worst moments could be around the world in an instant, badly damaging the British Royal Family's brand value.

Images that would damage Harry most

What type of images do you think would damage Harry most?












Comments

Morticia Markle -

The hair! Is she channelling Joan Baez, c.1975, as an SJW? Did she get that barnet off an old narrowboat? (When the horse died, its tail would be attached to the tiller)?

Is she trying to outdo Julia R with the `bicycle-pedal' lips? or reaffirm her African connection?

Or is she identifying with the First Nations now, although the nose is wrong?

The stare - that bores through the lens and comes out the other side? I shall look for a video of Eugenie's wedding with the stare that gave me the screaming hab-dabs. If I can find it, I'll post the reference.

re `my husband' - No Englishwoman now, if they have an accent like mine, dares say `My husband and I' nowadays. It so HM and leaves one open to mockery. I've had schoolkids calling it behind my back as I've crossed the playground, for example.

The `rule' goes like this:

When an aristocrat refers to his wife,how he does it depends who he addressing -
A friend - he'll use her name
An acquaintance - `my wife'
A servant - `her Ladyship'or whatever her title is.
WBBM said, Lady C makes a case for thinking that they may be supported financially by Bill and Melinda Gates - she certainly thinks there is likely to be someone other than Charles keeping them afloat financially - what do you think about that?

I don’t believe that, that’s reaching. Why on earth would they? What reason or cause? I very much doubt they’ve ever met, I‘m pretty sure Bill has met Charles and William though. The Gates have zero reason to fund the Duo IMHO.
@Mischief Girl

Great comment and I very much agree. ;o)
jessica said…
There are plenty of positive females here that are not faking a thing! One of my favorite parts of this blog in fact! All of your thoughts and opinions. Even if we are just discussing Meghan, it’s thoughtful and engaging. I feel like I learn a lot here from you all. So thank you!

As for Meghan and her placeholder husband and cash cow baby. Sigh.

Lucy commented that she just droned on and on and on. Yeah, no kidding. I’ve been reading follow up articles today and a few are saying she is taking digs at the RF. Being a narc, it’s obvious the whole speech is about Her Personal Experience (TM) that everyone should listen to because she is so self indulged and enlightened and because she bagged a halfwit entitled trust fund guy who was famous for being a ‘bro’, she thinks she has all the answers for all us women. There is nothing worse than someone who thinks they have all the answers. She also comes off as somewhat, paranoid? As if she’s justifying to herself that spending her days suntanning in Beverly Hills, with a rich family paying all her bills and taking only paid work that elevates her fame was superior to Duty, and a life of privilege in the UK. It comes off as so crass, because nothing changed. There’s no ‘woe-is-me’ story. She actually lives in an $18MM mansion next to some super famous people. Of course in her head, she thinks it was the right thing to do. She is insane and delusional! Lol.

She slept with a rich guy and he was also stupid so he married her. That’s literally her story. There’s nothing else there. This world isn’t made up of villains and power grabbers who kept her from being successful in her field. Even as a Royal. She just quits, can’t play well with others, can’t work well with others, is extremely demanding, doesn’t have manners, and insults family members left and right.

When Harry expressed,”what Meghan wants, Meghan gets.” He was not wrong.

Her whole speech was about how you should always do what you want and if someone doesn’t let you, it’s because you’re a woman and you should do whatever it takes to get what you want, no matter what. Because what you want is Right and Fair and no one can tell you otherwise. A speech only a deluded psycho could give.

It is crazy to me she talks about these things as if she has superior intelligence. It’s like, really? Where’s the substance behind all these weird anecdotes? Oh, right, it’s just her made up world.

“I want to share something with you,” she said. “It’s that those in the halls and corridors and places of power – from lawmakers and world leaders to executives – all of those people, they depend on you more than you will ever depend on them. And here’s the thing: they know this.”

If that isn’t a jab at the Queen and an extreme lack of self confidence and paranoia, I don’t know what is.

She acts like the world is taking advantage of her. Newsflash Megs, you put yourself in all these weird situations. She could be at frogmore raising her baby in a great environment with family values. Instead we are dealing with an unhinged deluded fool who is obsessed with how the world works and telling us about it as if we are all idiots. It’s insufferable.


Maneki Neko said…
@WBB-m

At the risk of sounding terribly old fashioned, I would say 'my husband and I did/went' etc to someone who doesn't know him, otherwise I say 'X and I', certainly not 'I and X/my husband'. Worse still, 'me and X/my husband'... (I am a stickler for correct grammar, in spite of probably a few mistakes when typing here quickly). I'm not overly fond of the word 'husband' but really dislike 'partner'.

Sorry for being OT.
jessica said…
Now it has me wondering why this woman is obsessed with power structures and not focusing on raising her baby in a healthy and loving environment.

He is barely 1, right? And she did not take much time off, then flew around the world in an impulsive anti-royal rage.

How is Archie being raised if she isn’t focused on him and normal new mom subjects? Why not give speeches about kids and her lessons with that. Is it because he isn’t real?

I’ve just never seen a new mom focus on ‘all this other stuff’, and not want to spend most of their time with or talking about their new baby. I get all women are different, but this one is nuts so I’m focussing on the obvious lol. Is this need to be a Huge Star and Eclipse Daddy and throwing herself into work there because now Archie is the center of attention? Is it affecting her ego?

I really wonder how safe this is for a baby.
jessica said…
I really dislike the use of Partner as well. I find it too nondescript.

Her phrasing didn’t make sense,’ I, my husband, and Archie.’ She needed to say “my family and I.” If she is aiming for privacy. To not mention Harry, who everyone knows better than herself, and only name Archie, well that doesn’t make sense to me grammatically either.
Unknown said…
@Maneki Neko I'm confused how Meg's "hair" is cultural appropriation. The hair from Meg's wig most likely comes from poor women in India that had it either cut and/or shaved during religious pilgrimages in their country.
Unknown said…
LOL, good to know I wasn't the only one who thought Meg looked like a vampire. The hair was too long and didn't suit her. She sort of reminded me of Demi Moore with the new look. IMO it aged her.

The reason Hollywood has perpetual "duck lips" is because when you start lip fillers, you won't be able to stop even if you want to. You can stop plastic surgery but the lips get distorted. So it's a matter of starlets choosing which is worse looking. Most stick to lip fillers because the look is at least mainstream.

Thanks @Hikari for Bea's portrait. I have a soft spot for her. I do hope things work out for her. I think I'm the only one who thinks her and Edo are end game.
Unknown said…
Sending a virtual hug to you @Aquagirl. I know exactly what you mean about all the Hollywood starlet coverage. I'm so sorry about your friend.

I never realized how much Cool-Aid I was ingesting until Meg came along. Now I cannot tolerate Hollywood news at all.
BellaDonna said…
Good morning all from the UK! Long time reader but cannot hold back much longer!

I played yesterdays video to my husband who is a frequent conference speaker and a minute in I asked him what he thought of Megs as a speaker and he said "sorry, I zoned out, it was just white noise, what is she talking about?"
SwampWoman said…
Jessica said: Her whole speech was about how you should always do what you want and if someone doesn’t let you, it’s because you’re a woman and you should do whatever it takes to get what you want, no matter what. Because what you want is Right and Fair and no one can tell you otherwise. A speech only a deluded psycho could give.


Yeah, here's the thing, Crazy Meghan: If you are working for ME, in MY business, it is all about MY vision of my business, not yours. How hard is this to understand? If you can't fulfill my mission statement AND get along with my customers as well as your fellow workers, I don't need the drama.
SwampWoman said…
BellaDonna said...
Good morning all from the UK! Long time reader but cannot hold back much longer!

I played yesterdays video to my husband who is a frequent conference speaker and a minute in I asked him what he thought of Megs as a speaker and he said "sorry, I zoned out, it was just white noise, what is she talking about?"


Yes, she's got no game. I can only assume that she is speaking for free; I certainly wouldn't pay for that incoherent mess.
xxxxx said…
Meghan's 8 minute speech on you tube --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjbm9DaiYDs

I watched 30 seconds
SwampWoman said…
Charade says: @Maneki Neko I'm confused how Meg's "hair" is cultural appropriation. The hair from Meg's wig most likely comes from poor women in India that had it either cut and/or shaved during religious pilgrimages in their country.

Well, Meg is now embracing her biracial identity (which she hid for most of her life) but not her biracial hair. She should embrace her curly biracial hair, not 'steal' the Caucasian hair that she never had (grin). Personally, I would kill for her (former) curls but, as I'm not willing to spend coin and time at the beauty shop to acquire them, I'm rocking my Caucasian hair with the silver highlights.

I have heard "cultural appropriation" ad nauseum; I'm sick of it. Live up to the standards you attempt to impose upon the rest of us, woke people.
SwampWoman said…
@Charade, there has been a shipment of hair/weaves from China that has been recently confiscated because it is suspected of coming from their Uyghur genocide camps. Meghan may be wearing the hair of dead Uyghurs on her head.
SwampWoman said…
xxxxx said...
Meghan's 8 minute speech on you tube --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjbm9DaiYDs

I watched 30 seconds


I am a glutton for punishment, I suppose. I was mesmerized watching the weird lips and the hair of dead Uyghurs. I made it to 1:41 when she started talking about all the other buzzwords that she uses that she knows squat about.
SwampWoman said…
Well, my gracious, look at the time. It is a little after 7 a.m. here, coffee is ingested, the sun is fully up, there will be strong thunderstorms with torrential rainfall and prodigious lightning by noon, so well past time to get to work. Have a good day!
Unknown said…
Yes @SwampWoman, I read about the seized hair weaves. The world of wigs is a terrible world to look closely into.

I understand some women have needs and their own reasons to wear wigs but it's a bad look on a "woke" weekends-off vegan humanitarian to wear hair with such questionable origins. It's all vanity with Rache. So much for the new world order she keeps trying to herald.
That video -

`...on the precipice of change.'

Does she mean as in `SPLAT!'?

I clicked on `learn more' with regard to the comments being disabled - the first reason to be given was `The video owner selected the setting to "Disable comments".'

My, what a surprise! A coward, as ever.
xxxxx said…
Uighur hair shipment seized (long article. lots more at the source)

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials told the Associated Press that 13 tons of hair products worth an estimated $800,000 were in the shipment.

"The production of these goods constitutes a very serious human rights violation, and the detention order is intended to send a clear and direct message to all entities seeking to do business with the United States that illicit and inhumane practices will not be tolerated in U.S. supply chains," said Brenda Smith, executive assistant commissioner of CBP's Office of Trade.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hair-weaves-chinese-prison-camps-uighur-muslims-seized-u-s-customs/
Piroska said…
I had read the report of how wonderful Meghan looked in that video glowing skin etc. and was thinking of how haggard Harry looked in his apperances then for some reason Countess Elizabeth Báthory sprang to mind - I'm glad to find I'm not the only one to think of vampires
Maneki Neko said…
@Charade

By 'cultural appropriation' - and I'm sick of the phrase too, SwampWoman - I meant that MM views herself as biracial now but has dead straight hair like white women. That seems ok, and it is, but should a white woman/man wear their hair in corn rows, then that's not acceptable, certainly here in the UK. To me this is rather hypocritical.

Incidentally, The DM states that Celebrity hairstylist James Johnson told FEMAIL that the stunning new look gives Meghan a 'professional' feel but maintains a level of 'coolness' befitting of her Los Angeles lifestyle. He also pointed out that the style is easy to do at home and makes her look more 'current' like an influencer, rather than a royal.

Hmm... Stunning? Professional? Coolness? Influencer? Don't think so.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Re chest size on the sex video

Markle had significantly enhanced bust in her younger "modeling" days which was greatly reduced later. For reference see Meghan Markle Modeling

thehollywoodgossip.com

Plenty of proof
Teasmade said…
@Maneki: Sorry, but I can't let this go: "style"? "easy to do"? WHAT style? What is there to do to style it but purchase it and let gravity take its course?
lizzie said…
Professional?

I'm on the US east coast and I realize LA is different. But I've never thought 40-something women wafting around with long ironed hair flying everywhere looked especially professional. As others have said, the look reminds me of Demi Moore, Cher, and the TV character, Morticia Addams. While Demi and Cher had professions I'd not call their looks "professional."

And I doubt M thinks anyone associates her new look with Demi who is in her late 50s or Cher who is her 70s! I'm sure she thinks she looks like a fresh-faced 25-year old and I guess some of her teenage fans agree. Pretty amazing.
Acquitaine said…
I strongly disagree that any private photos of Harry during the past 3yrs looking like Johnny will damage the family. It will only damage Harry, but ultimately damage Meghan more. Here is why

1. The PR game of the family. Notice that from day one the family has positioned itself as the welcoming, give Meghan everything she wants as well as goodies no one else has, supportive family. Even when Meghan slung mud at them, called them toxic etc they countered with love, supportive, worried loving family distressed at the obvious distress of the Sussexes. Very little publicly direct return of fire.

For the majority of people who don't understand PR, they don't see the very obvious results of the family's private moves and retaliation against the Sussexes. They just see a family bending over backwards to ridiculous lengths to be nice and kind to Sussexes.

2. The family has very publicly distanced itself from the Sussexes and made it very clear that the distance is final no matter how often the Sussexes try to re-attach themselves to the royal life they were so disdainful in January/ February. Everything the Sussexes do is very clearly being framed as the fault of the Sussexes with no input from the family. The family has made very clear that the Sussexes cut themselves from the family from the moment they wed, if not before. Any dirt or accolades do not blow back on the family.

2. The family has very steadily promoted the idea that Harry is a fragile, sheltered man whose head has been turned by the worldly Meghan. Harry has contributed to this perception by repeatedly invoking his poor mental health. He may be doing it unconsciously or deliberately, but it's given the family a powerful weapon to use against Meghan whilst keeping the door open for him if they decide it's worth it to bring him back. It's a weapon that could have been very potent in Meghan's hands, but positioning her as a schemer who took advantage of a fragile, sheltered man wins every time.

3. They've clearly allowed Meghan to show herself as the grasping, veruca salt, self-aggrandizing, lying gold digging user she is. Unless the private photos show Harry engaging in animal abuse or child abuse, their release would spectacularly backfire on her because it would prove beyond reasonable doubt for those who don't pay attention that she is indeed everything horrible ever written about her character.


Acquitaine said…
About Meghan's hair in her latest audition tape......

For reasons unknown Meghan's worldview is fixed in the late 1990s. She graduated high school in 1999. The celebs she courts, the styles she wears, her inspirations are all from that period.

Her hair in that tape is peak 1999/ 2000 - every celebrity, fashionista had waist-length, central parted straight ironed hair. From Jen Aniston to Demi Moore to CBK to Madonna to Aliyah. All she needs is buttery blonde strips at the front and she's back in 1999 / 2000.
Acquitaine said…
Just wanted to add that i think the family understood very well how to play this woman in public and Sussex so their PR game is consistently wrong-footing her and making her look repeatedly and incorrigibly ungrateful as well as revealing herself.

It's barely a year and everyone now knows she's an idiot even when they argue that she's a victim of racism.

Poor Meghan and Harry so believed their public image as popular royals that they jumped off the cliff thinking thry could do and say whatever they wanted and the public would eat it up and or save them.

Meghan clearly read that part of Diana's lifestory without understanding that her story had so many layers that appealed to the public which adopted her as if she were their beloved daughter.
Maneki Neko said…
@Teasmade

@Maneki: Sorry, but I can't let this go: "style"? "easy to do"? WHAT style? What is there to do to style it but purchase it and let gravity take its course?
_________________
I certainly don't agree with that sickly sweet comment by the celebrity hairstylist. As you say, it is no style (I'm not sure if I gave the impression I liked his comment).
Teasmade said…
@Maneki, No, you didn't give that impression! : ) I just had to dig in a little further.
luxem said…
GirlUp - it's too bad Priyanka's speech isn't getting more press. My daughter and I watched all the speeches/panels in that segment and hers was the best - age-appropriate, interesting, inspirational, positive. Besides Meghan, Sheryl Sandberg was a dud. She didn't give it much thought and focused on how women spend more time on household chores than men and this generation can change that...weird.

Gates Support - Maybe the Gates are paying the 1-year salary for Catherine St. Laurent that was rumored earlier this year. Bill Gates was pictured visiting KP last year and the Gates foundation is supporting William's environmental competition initiative. I could see the Gates foundation agreeing to fund an employee to get the Harkles charity off the ground and if successful, the charity would then take over the salary. The 1-year window would fit in with the Queen's review strategy.
Emily said…
The RF could finish her off once and for all with the fake pregnancy. They were completely blind sided but covered themselves by releasing the statement saying the surrogate had given birth. It was taken down not long after.
In the court papers she has said that she was pregnant, which is a lie, so if the MOS go down that route to win their case, she would be totally finished. So would Harry.
CookieShark said…
Priyanka's speech is great and full of actual examples, instead of the word salad we heard from our friend. Use of footage of her speech, by the way, evidently has to go through approval from her team.

Priyanka's speech is all about gratitude. I don't think we have ever heard Meghan once thank the RF for her increased public profile, which leads me to believe she's not thankful. Not surprising though, because her treatment of her father has been horrific given everything he sacrificed for her.

I thought she did not pass the Foreign Service exam. Why is GirlUp giving her a platform?
Blogger Emily said...
"They ... covered themselves by releasing the statement saying the surrogate had given birth. It was taken down not long after.
"

I must have blinked at the wrong moment and missed this. I recall Nicholas Witchell of the BBC being dumbfounded live on camera but don't recall anything that looked like a confirmation of our suspicions?
HappyDays said…
Lucy said... She needs to find something she is passionate about to even be remotely successful.

Meghan’s problem is that as a narcissist, she is at her core, an empty, vapid vessel whose only remotely genuine interest in life is herself. She latches on to interests as if she is trying on shoes at a department store.

Narcissists hide behind the facade or mask they create to serve the purpose of the moment, much like the flavor of the day at the local ice cream shop.

Meghan was a sex bomb Diana 2.0 to snag Harry. She made a half-hearted “attempt” for public consumption to be a working royal, but she never intended to wear that mask more than a few months as she used it to create the mask of “victim of the British people and the royal family” to form the basis of her original plan to move to LA via a pit stop in Canada, which was also a short-term mask to cover their brief stay north of the border.

Even though she made it to LA, the pandemic is preventing her from building her Hollywood/World-Changer mask, so as has gradually been happening since the BBC engagement interview, her overall facade is falling away. She has been mostly unmasked and is frantically grasping at anything and everything to hide her ugly narcissistic core. Meghan’s full unmasking will come if she and Harry ever divorce.

Even the alleged passions she has seem to be fleeting or at best on a rotation, dependent on which of them fits her requirements at the moment and is on the collective mind of the public, usually via the media attention she requires as one of her main forms of narcissistic fuel outside of Harry, who is probably still her intimate primary fuel source — for now.

Meghan is one of those types of people that media people say the following about: “Never get between XXXX and a microphone or a camera. They’ll mow you down trying to get to the reporter or photographer/videographer.”



Maneki Neko said…
@HappyDays said...
Lucy said... She needs to find something she is passionate about to even be remotely successful.
____________________________
She cannot be passionate abt anything because she is so shallow. How can you be passionate for a cause for a week or two, only to jump on to the next one for a short while, again and again and again?
We could start a thread on guessing what her next `apparent craze' might be! Homeopathy? Foot detoxes? Save the Arctic penguins?
I loved Lady C's comment that M is as `shallow as teaspoon'!
Maneki Neko said…
@WBB-m

Fear not, there'll be another bandwagon or cause to jump on pretty soon. She'll find something...
lucy said…
Lmao hacker extraordinaire I am not. I learned my lesson and now I got big mess over here. I switched up google account so I could play fool over in the comments of Meghans speech and now I am stuck with her head as my avatar on account I use to email my family!

I cant switch it back because it switches my youtube comments to other account in the comments. I really dont care so much but now I am wondering if all previous emails I sent out to family now switched to Meghan's head? My family is going to be who in the heck is that? What is going on over there?

For what it is worth NEVER have I done that here. I have respect for all of you. I had that Unknown for a bit cause evidently someone booted my original lucy from here and it was hassle to figure out so I left it until it was overtly rude to just leave it as I kept talking. I spent over 45 minutes hooking this up this masterpiece as clearly I have no idea what I am doing

Lesson learned.

I just had to tell you all as I have no one else to voice my shame and angst to.

Damn that Meghan somehow this is her fault?

-dummy
Hikari said…
Acquitaine,

Love your handle!

I have to commend you for your comments re. the BRF PR strategy & how it's much more effective behind the scenes than we plebs out here watching understand. I'm reproducing it again for anybody who might have scrolled by. Your remarks really get to the heart of the matter.

I strongly disagree that any private photos of Harry during the past 3yrs looking like Johnny will damage the family. It will only damage Harry, but ultimately damage Meghan more. Here is why

1. The PR game of the family. Notice that from day one the family has positioned itself as the welcoming, give Meghan everything she wants as well as goodies no one else has, supportive family. Even when Meghan slung mud at them, called them toxic etc they countered with love, supportive, worried loving family distressed at the obvious distress of the Sussexes. Very little publicly direct return of fire.

For the majority of people who don't understand PR, they don't see the very obvious results of the family's private moves and retaliation against the Sussexes. They just see a family bending over backwards to ridiculous lengths to be nice and kind to Sussexes.

2. The family has very publicly distanced itself from the Sussexes and made it very clear that the distance is final no matter how often the Sussexes try to re-attach themselves to the royal life they were so disdainful in January/ February. Everything the Sussexes do is very clearly being framed as the fault of the Sussexes with no input from the family. The family has made very clear that the Sussexes cut themselves from the family from the moment they wed, if not before. Any dirt or accolades do not blow back on the family.

2. The family has very steadily promoted the idea that Harry is a fragile, sheltered man whose head has been turned by the worldly Meghan. Harry has contributed to this perception by repeatedly invoking his poor mental health. He may be doing it unconsciously or deliberately, but it's given the family a powerful weapon to use against Meghan whilst keeping the door open for him if they decide it's worth it to bring him back. It's a weapon that could have been very potent in Meghan's hands, but positioning her as a schemer who took advantage of a fragile, sheltered man wins every time.

3. They've clearly allowed Meghan to show herself as the grasping, veruca salt, self-aggrandizing, lying gold digging user she is. Unless the private photos show Harry engaging in animal abuse or child abuse, their release would spectacularly backfire on her because it would prove beyond reasonable doubt for those who don't pay attention that she is indeed everything horrible ever written about her character.



Hikari said…
It was some time ago that BP released a statement that the Palace and the RF would no longer release any comment about the Sussexes. For an institution that abides by "Don't complain, don't explain", this statement, as bland and mild as it appears on the surface is tantamount to a repudiation. The drawbridge has gone up and the Sussexes are on the other side of the moat.

Just a week or so ago came the comment, published in various sources that TQ and PP boycotted Archie's christening, that the stated 'prior engagement' of HM in Scotland was the explanation given for TQ's non-attendance (meaning clear: the Queen refused to attend Archie's 'do). And why? Because HM felt 'publicly humiliated' by the antics of the Sussexes over the whole Archie affair.

Like, wow. Elizabeth Regina does not have 'feelings'--not in public, in her role as head of state. Her MO has always been, as counseled by her grandmother Queen Mary, to be that serene, untouchable sovereign, seemingly above human strife and failings, regardless of what Elizabeth Windsor was battling as the human woman underneath the Crown. "Never let them see you sweat . . .or cry" has been her motto for all her long life. The fact that this factoid about Her Majesty 'feeling humiliated' is practically unprecedented. The last time she admitted to negative feelings was probably back in '92 when Windsor Castle caught on fire.

This is a clear message being sent: Meghan (and her Handbag) have humiliated the Queen by their behavior and that is a cardinal sin. They are done. Harry might be allowed to crawl back to the U.K. at some point where he will be tolerated, perhaps even supported financially to a modest level, but he will never again be a working Royal, and his future invitations to family get togethers seems tenuous. He will be like Andrew . . no longer allowed to be seen at public events. He'd better pray that he will be allowed to live in Africa after Meg is done with him, and he will be effectively exiled.

@ Maneki Neko


Yes, her bandwagons are like London buses, `There'll be another one along in a minute', rather than the other scenario of waiting ages, then 6 turn up at once.


re Joan Baez & Bog Dylan c.1975: this is the photo I was thinking of:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Joan_Baez_Bob_Dylan.jpg

Perhaps writer and singer of Protest Songs is her next plan? Naturally she would expect to top the charts. Is there any evidence that she can sing any better than she can act or dance?

Remember, you saw it here first!
Hikari said…
Acquitaine said,

About Meghan's hair in her latest audition tape......

For reasons unknown Meghan's worldview is fixed in the late 1990s. She graduated high school in 1999. The celebs she courts, the styles she wears, her inspirations are all from that period.


Yep. Meg has a normal, perhaps even above-average intelligence--for a schoolgirl. She peaked at her emotional and intellectual development in high school. I feel that there is a profound disability there, a function of her personality disorder, perhaps, that renders her in some way brain-damaged, really. Because she's like a sponge that has been saturated and is unable to accept any new knowledge, to expand her horizons beyond her very limited preoccupations with money, status and manipulating events/reality to make herself look better. Her intellect is stunted and her learning is done. She cannot unlearn negative patterns and adjust her behavior or perception to be different/better, or take advantage of all the new experiences she was introduced to upon marriage into the Royal family. She had an unprecedented opportunity to see the world--literally--and immerse herself into a new way of life. She bucked it all the way . . wasn't interested. All she cared about, and cares about to this day is recreating the 'Hollywood glamour fantasy' she had as a teen in high school watching Beverly Hills 90210. This is why she keeps harping on her 'youth' . .her body and face may be nearly 40 years old, but her mind is still stuck in 1999 and will not be pried out.

It's really very sad. But she's found herself a co-conspirator who is very much the same. Harry is also stuck at the level of a young 20-something lad-about-town . .parties, drugs, girls, not a care in the world. That's his version of 'a normal life'. He wants an endless lads' holiday free from responsibilities. Also tragic, for a man who is a couple months shy of his 36th birthday, and ostensibly, a father.

Both of these losers are so pathetic. That they keep getting platforms to display their narcissistic immaturity and hollowness just astounds me. They are neither aspirational nor inspirational. I am flummoxed.
Fahlina Speaks said…
This comment probably won’t win me any friends but honestly I think it has something to do with Harry and children. He seems to have a particular fondness for little children of color and that’s who he was usually pictured with as a working royal. He also has a special love for his African getaways.
Even before he and Meghan married, I always found it strange that a guy who spent so much of his working life pictured mainly with kids spent so little time around the children in his family, especially the kids of the brother he was so close to, and always wondered why? You would be hard pressed to find a picture of Harry playing or interacting with his Cambridge nieces and nephews or the Tindall or Phillips cousins. I was always under the impression they actively kept their distance from Harry, which was so odd, especially when he seemed to be so comfortable with them on the job.
Even if nothing actually happened, I can’t help but wonder if Meghan has some type of photo that insinuates something inappropriate?
A lot is coming out right now about people in high places and their pedophile proclivities . There are rumors about Prince Andrew, lots about Uncle Dickie Mountbatten and evening Charles has been mentioned regarding the company he kept with men like Saville. So it wouldn’t be completely out of the ballpark to suggest there is some deviant “there” there within the royal family. They are human beings with faults like everyone else and the resources to get away with near any type of crime/ deviancy. In any case, knowing how Meghan Markle is, I’m sure one day we will get an answer with regards to this as she isn’t one to keep anything quiet for long.
@Lucy-

Thanks for the laugh -I do sympathise though. Technology is marvellous - when it works.

My chap, a few days ago, decided it really was time he got a smart phone. Starting from the moment he began to order it online, it's been driving us crazy. First it was `arguments' with the bank's computer because he used his credit card on an account where I'm the first-named. And I have no history of buying technical stuff. I think we ordered 2 of them thanks to difficulty in paying - had to sort that out.

Now, he expects me to know what to do and how to work the thing - but I have no idea either. We may be old but we're not stupid - it's just that we don't have access to any children, of any age, who could help.

To us, it's all voodoo.

My old Nokia does one thing supremely well - it lets me talk to people. That's all I ask.
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CookieShark said…
I think there is a reason she and H are always targeting young people.
You do not see them in talks with the 50 plus crowd.
They would be called out right away by people who have worked for what they have, while raising children.
I suspect they know that this demographic can see right through them. Any physician, attorney, or otherwise accomplished professional would suss them out right away.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Fahlina Speaks re: Harry and his own nieces/nephews versus other kids -- I think it's a problem he has with his family issues, more so than either other kids or perhaps unhealthy relationships with other kids. JMO
HappyDays said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I loved Lady C's comment that M is as `shallow as teaspoon'!

@WBBM: LOL, the Lady C description is spot on!
Add this similar description of Meghan, which I made in the DM comments on the day of the wedding, long before finding this wonderful blog...
Her depth can be measured in millimeters.
SwampWoman said…
CookieShark said...
I think there is a reason she and H are always targeting young people.
You do not see them in talks with the 50 plus crowd.
They would be called out right away by people who have worked for what they have, while raising children.
I suspect they know that this demographic can see right through them. Any physician, attorney, or otherwise accomplished professional would suss them out right away.


Oh, you said that so very tactfully. I am in awe. If I weren't busily blessing their hearts while rolling my eyes, I might accidentally blurt out something like I can recognize bullsh*t when I see it.
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Maneki Neko said…
CCN - not CNN! - has another article on MM and brings her down a peg or two. For instance:

It’s just that charisma and the ability to captivate the audience isn’t something you can buy. A new hairstyle, a change in wardrobe, or even marrying a prince doesn’t make you something you’re not.

Hollywood knows this.

Those Meghan Markle fans who are scratching their heads, wondering why their idol isn’t penciled in to co-star with Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie need to realize that Meghan isn’t on that level.

And just as she was an average actress, she’s also an average public speaker.
.......
Sadly, at some point, Meghan Markle had to deliver, and the truth is, she can’t. Not to the level expected anyway.

She’ll do okay, of course, just as she did okay in her acting career. But it doesn’t look like the royal family is missing out on much with her leaving.

Much ado about nothing, in all honesty. The Queen can relax for now and have a cup of tea.


There are also some excerpts from Suits which I did watch (oh the shame!) as I've never watched it before. At 8"45' (yes, I did endure it...), MM says "I'm not wearing tights. I'm not wearing underwear' and proceeds to walk away doing her slut walk...

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markles-girl-up-speech-confirmed-my-unfortunate-suspicion/
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(A)

Okay, at this juncture I finally feel brave enough to put forward astrological reasons for why Meghan and Harry are what they are/do what they do. (Just to add another dimension to laser-sharp accurate observations already made.) (Pretty much only here. The rest of the world is still in thrall to some kind of wishful thinking. What I'm putting forward is confirmation of what every incredible observer here has already identified.)

Long been a devotee of astrology, while finding the math, i.e. aspects, houses and so on, difficult to process. Like a former Pope, however, with *pron, I know good astrology when I see it. And it is an unarguable marker for people. Like it or not, even if all you read is your Sun sign, you ARE like your sign. And if you read further, into Ascendant, Moon, houses and aspects, your personality and motivations become clearer and clearer.

(Chiron and asteroids is another whole ball game. This is deep stuff I'll never get my head around, but the real astrologers know what they're doing.)

Had the benefit of a dear friend, a lifelong astrology master, to do my chart and reading. Sadly, he has passed. But the lessons he left were these: 1) ASTROLOGICAL READINGS ONLY INDICATE, NEVER DICTATE (more on this as I go along) and 2) NEVER ACCEPT A SEEMINGLY GOOD ASPECT AS CARVED IN STONE and 3) YOU WILL MANAGE TO SCREW UP IN LIFE, DESPITE YOUR "GOOD" ASPECTS. AND YOU WILL ALSO MANAGE TO DO GOOD AND GREAT THINGS, DESPITE "BAD" ASPECTS. Oh, and 4) NEWSPAPER AND CELEBRITY ASTROLOGERS ARE CHARLATANS WHO DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. Boy, was he right, on all counts.

So, *deep breath*, here goes.

I'll begin with Meghan.

(This is the first of many posts, which one has to break up lest they get too long. I will letter them -- this post is A. Next post B, and so on.)
Fahlina Speaks said…
I also agree with the above comments about Meghan being stuck in the late 90’s.
I wonder if it’s due to some type of trauma that occurred at that age?
It’s very strange not to move on and adapt. I also liked the Blood Countess comparison.
She cannot seem to accept that she is aging and those days of the 90’s are long gone, as is her youth.
I think she would look so much better, and more sophistication with a shoulder length sleek bob, if not her natural hair if any is left.
KC said…
"I and my husband and Archie..."

Even TQ is known to say My husband and I...she used to anyway, to make her sound more down slightly (advised by her PR back in the 70s).

MM looks like she is trying to pass for, maybe 25? Not working all that well, but approaching 40 is a difficult gate for many people. Just think, she may have been telling herself she would be a huge star and a fantastically wealthy woman by 40. In that case she likely would not have meant AT 40. Time's a-wasting!
Blogger Fahlina Speaks said...
"This comment probably won’t win me any friends but honestly I think it has something to do with Harry and children. "

I think you've made a very good point, Fahlina - you've looked at closely at the question. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility. Sometimes the truth is hiding in plain sight and sometimes what we see is misleading. I wonder which it is?

A simple, innocent, explanation is that kids are at the same stage of mental development as he is, so it's easy to relate to them. The other explanation is horrible to contemplate but we may have to brace ourselves for something ugly.

I've read that Catherine didn't want him around the children when he was drunk but there may be more to it. The release of photos of the Royal children is very controlled anyway, so that may be why we've never wondered about it.

Could the suspicion about MM and her illicit photography in KP, possibly of the Cambridge children, have anything to do with it? Did she have blackmail in mind, as opposed to it just being a nice little earner?

In Africa, OTOH...

Unless we are aware of the warning signals/red flags, we tend to project our own good faith and decent behaviour onto others and don't expect them to behave badly. Nor do we find it easy to believe when they do - just like how many of us have been taken in by narcissists.

Saville always struck me as very creepy but who would have guessed it of Rolf Harris?

When I was 13 or 14, I was assaulted by a trusted friend and colleague of my father who was well into his 50s. Not seriously but it was very unpleasant. My parents had only just left the room, when he grabbed me, kissed me savagely, then walked out after them without a word.

Had it been a random stranger, outside the house, I'd have been believed if I'd told my parents; my father would have been after the bloke's blood. I couldn't, however, rely on them it in this situation. I could imagine all sorts of consequences, whichever way it went, so I decided to say nothing, just to keep my distance from him in future. I don't think he ever came to the house again. I was taken aback but not traumatised by the experience - but I never forgot it.

Please God, Fahlina, you haven't put your finger on it- so this is just speculation. I trust Nutty to remove this comment if she thinks it's too risky.
brown-eyed said…
@lucy

Jelly Preston was being treated at MD Anderson Medical Center in Texas. It is one of the premier medical treatment facilities in the US.

Hikari said…
@Fahlina,

Given the unsavory stuff that's been coming out about various shenanigans within the RF lately, the speculation you raise is pretty justified. The Royals have hidden a lot of their bad behavior behind palace walls for centuries.

Harry is guilty of tons of bad behavior but I do not think that sexually abusing children is one of his sins. Even Uncle Andrew likes them to be at least 17 years old. I don't think Harry is a pedophile. He has been captured many times on camera being adorable with children . . often these were Black children because the encounters happened in Africa in the context of his Sentabale charity. There have been other adorable encounters with white children, too--the scene of a little blonde toddler girl stealing his popcorn at a basketball (?) game has gone viral, and last winter, when Meg was 'expecting', Harry paid a visit to a YMCA ballet class and made a beeline for an infant girl sitting on the sidelines in the arms of her mom. At that time, the Sussexes were promoting that Meg was expecting a girl, so now I'm kind of revisiting that encounter, which appeared completely spontaneous, with a view toward 'optics'. Before Meg came on the scene, I never suspected Harry of interacting with the public solely to 'look good', and I accepted his rapport with children as genuine. But seeing as he's got no visible rapport with the baby presumed to be his own, it makes me wonder what sort of PR games he might have been playing before. It's not that hard to look cute with other people's children when one is performing for cameras. Now that Harry is supposedly a dad, but we have only the Sussexes' word for it, I can only observe that he's never seemed very interested in his own child. Presuming he's got: 1. A child and 2. Said child actually lives with him.

It has been making the rounds for some time now that William had put a stop to Harry coming 'round to see the kids because Uncle Harry kept turning up sloppy drunk and it was scaring the children. Haz has been a loose cannon/lush/dopehead of interdeterminate origin for years--since he was a young teen--and his drug use and heavy drinking/partying have been often documented. William eventually had enough; Uncle Harry was erratic, probably stank, and was not to be trusted around small children. This was *before* Meghan. So the rift between the brothers Wales is largely to do with Meg, but there were problems before she arrived on the scene. She's handily exploited Harry's weaknesses, but I think he'd have been alcohol and drug-dependent without her . . she's just allowing him to bury himself deeper in his addictions.
Even making out that the expected child is a girl, not a boy, is pure Diana.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(B)

Meghan, it turns out, is not that hard to figure out, astrologically speaking.

In the beginning of Meghan and Harry's relationship, all kinds of astrologers (charlatans, money-money-money) eagerly jumped on the bandwagon, seeing only good aspects (if they bothered to see any of the other aspects at all) to please their audience. Bleccch. Hey, she's a Leo, generous, outgoing, blah blah blah! Here's why she and Harry are the bomb! You would have to (and still do) wade through this dross to find common sense and truth.

Thankfully, there ARE real astrologers out there who actually READ THE CHARTS. Such a one that I discovered is Raven Ways, on youtube, who tags her posts with "secret astrology", a sly dig at the charlatans.

Here is her take on Meghan -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9alhQJn2-0

This astrologer acknowledges the charlatans -- "A lot of astrologers only focus on the goody-good things" -- but she delves deeper. Noting Meghan's Cancer ascendant, all about mothering, points out that she ought to be all about children and family, plus philanthropy, caring about others.

Moon in Libra -- seeking justice for people. A LOT about Meghan seems to be about justice, and grandiose plans for the future. (But more about that later.)

AMBITIOUS -- see 3:42 ("All about the business, and modern")

ROLE OF FAMILY see 4:10 (NOTE: This is extremely important) ("What is this deal? Her family just can't stand her!")

(Astrologer then begins to explain what has happened in her family. Right on the money. Remember, this is in 2018. Quite revealing. Keep listening.)

LEO IN SECOND HOUSE -- Preoccupation with ASSETS. Money, property, etc. -- "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME, ME, ME." A "materialistic vibe."

But then we get into Mars in the ascendant of Cancer. All kinds of eye-opening family/personality dynamics, and so true. Meghan laid bare, if you ask me.

(Post C next)

lucy said…
@WBBM I appreciate your sympathies. I feel like idiot. Such a stupid thing to have happen and do. Plus couple weeks ago I had to get a new phone and for whatever reason they told me it was free if I changed my number . I said sure. Epic disaster! All my passwords didn't transfer and so I had no passwords and no access to old phone number to go through verification process. Makes my head hurt just thinking to it

I am same way. I do not have fancy phone. No idea what I am missing and that is ok

Oh geez now my sister sent me text "are you ok? I am just ignoring that for now

Thank you for who replied regarding Kelly Preston. I feared she spent last couple years in agony swearing off doctors, I hope it is true

I also saw mention of the sock sex tape dont you dare make me go look again. I just remember thinking not her and sticking to it

@hikari you write some fantastic posts!

Also saw mention of royal debauchery and I am hearing all the chatter as well . I recently watched brutal documentary and Part 2 looks like it is set to feature Prince Andrew
Hikari said…
WB,

Yep. At least Diana didn't commandeer a microphone and croon about the 'embryonic kicking of feminism' while rubbing herself and hiking her minidress up to her hooch.

Diana should have told Charles the truth as soon as she got home from the scan. Better yet, he would have been in the room when they both got the news, but seeing as he wasn't . . it was not kind in the long run to string him along for 7 months that the baby was a girl. He could have grown to be happily expecting another son over time if he hadn't been sandbagged with disappointment on the day and had proof that Diana had been lying for months.

I do have some sympathy for her pretending . . Charles was so happy and she wanted to keep things peaceful between them for as long as possible . .but it backfired on her in the end. Harry has had to have heard this story many, many times (I'm sure his wife, expert on all things Diana, will have reminded him of it if he'd managed to forget.) This, plus the murkiness surrounding his parentage--Hmm, out pops a boy with ginger hair; was Charles's cold reaction *just* because he was disappointed that Harry wasn't a daughter? . . would have dogged Haz his whole life, adding to his messed up head. He's unquestionably a Mountbatten . . spitting image of his grandfather, but those rumors still would have hurt.

@Swamp Woman
@Charade

Well, Meg is now embracing her biracial identity (which she hid for most of her life) but not her biracial hair.

She is definitely not embracing her biracial nose, either!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(C)

Meghan with Mars in Cancer -- "challenging" aspect for children, BAD in plain-speak. "They don't get what they want, they get angry."

Meghan's problems with family start there, and go on predictable lines. Listen to the astrologer for more insight ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9alhQJn2-0 )

Aspects in square with other planets Mars in Cancer "makes Meghan who is someone who starts fights with her family. It shows tension, and the tension is in her personality. Mars in Cancer is not a happy person. They're not exactly trustworthy, they sometimes lie, they hold massive grudges, these are people who have a hard time."
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@HappyDays said...
Lucy said... She needs to find something she is passionate about to even be remotely successful.
____________________________
After watching a little over 2 minutes of her latest audition tape, the thought occurred to me again that Meghan would find a welcoming and appreciative home in Scientology. It’s the kind of place where she would be able to use her skills as a con artist to lure in young, unsuspecting, vulnerable recruits to the cause. And because Scientology is basically a pyramid scheme, she could get filthy rich playing their game. And who knows? Maybe Tom Cruise would put her in one of his movies. She could play the role of a psychopathic, cougar seductress.
KC said…
Fairy Crocodile said...

Out of all comments today the one made my blood boil. Harry killing hen harriers.

Animals are defenceless against humans. It takes a special kind of unhuman to use a firearm against a bird or any other animal.

Harry is a disgusting man. Period.


Well, technically we don't KNOW he did it. The word "allegedly" is often applied in these cases...but I cannot deny a certain gut feeling...

Grisham said…
Jumping in late:

Bill and Melinda Gates have pledged to give away their wealth while they are alive. They are members of that club— I can’t remember the name, and they are only leaving their kids like 100k each after they die.

So I don’t see how anyone could jump to the Gates’ are funding HAMS.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(D)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9alhQJn2-0

"Her attitude in the home is very different to the attitude outside the home."

"Family members have had a hard time with Meghan. They don't really get it. A lot of them just don't get it. They don't understand where all the anger is happening."

(more tomorrow)
Nutty Flavor said…
@Fahlina @WBBM, I'll leave your comments up, although I don't see any evidence to support Fahlina's suggestion that there may be something unacceptable going on between Harry and children.

That said, there's a lot of talk right now about pedophilia in Hollywood, and Christy Teigen, of all people, has been deleting thousands of tweets very quickly, supposedly because she's fearful of being linked with Jeffrey Epstein.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1170583/chrissy-teigen-says-she-deleted-60-000-tweets-out-of-concern-for-her-family-s-safety

It's not impossible, of course, that Harry also had an Epstein connection.

The Royal Family might have trouble withstanding not just one (Prince Andrew) but two members who were involved with underage escorts.
Blithe Spirit said…
Priyanka's speech on Girl Up was motivational, sincere and dedicated to girls who inspired their worlds in various ways. The focus was not on her, the big Bollywood star, but on the girls who inspire her. How much of her activist image is PR created I don't know but she does bring a genuine quality to it. I didn't watch MM because in my opinion she had no business being there and I can't bring myself to watch her anyway. The pic of her Morticia Adams hair was enough. From the excellent comments on this site it appears that she didn't stray too far from her usual spiel of me, I , myself and the unfair, racist world. How to play victim when you don't get your way could have been a better theme for her to lecture on. But that would require honesty, another commodity along with talent and community spirit, she sorely lacks.
Nutty Flavor said…
Also, it seems to be important to the Royals that Harry will have a path back whenever Meghan is done with him.

This is important not just because they love him - he's their son, brother, uncle - but because to toss him aside would make the rest of the family look cruel.

One of the Telegraph comments yesterday was, ""Frankly, the one thing which keeps coming into my mind on this is the thought that I hope William will be kind to his brother when this ends in tears."
Grisham said…
@emily and @wbbm the tweet was a fake one made from a tweet generator app and the date was years ago.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Aquagirl, I'm sorry I didn't respond this morning your comment about Kelly Preston and John Travolta. I apologize.

When it comes to inspiring women, I don't think we can ask too much of any one woman. Some choose good partners and have great relationships, others are wonderful mothers, others make great artworks, others make money, etc. etc.

I personally prefer historical biographies to following women in the present day, because their stories are complete and we can see which of their achievements have endured.

Of recent biographies I've read, one was Debbie Harry - a great stylistic icon, but not much of a businesswoman, and I think her style has endured more than her music. A long one is Leni Riefenstahl's autobiography - she worked for Hitler, so no admiration for her beliefs, but her innovative film techniques influence every documentary and every sports broadcast. Neither of those women had lifelong relationships or children.

And then I read about Minnie Marx, the mother of the Marx Brothers, who was the business brains behind their early careers and much loved by her sons. And Barbara Sinatra, who lived her life through her husbands, Zeppo Marx and then Frank Sinatra - she was basically a professional wife, and did it pretty well.

I read a good autobiography by Lisa Robinson, the rock writer from the 60s and 70s. Fascinating career.

Let me know if I can give you any more specific suggestions.
SwampWoman said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura: Fascinating about the astrological readings providing insight into MM's character. I'm wondering, though, if a person that was good at reading body language wouldn't be equally good at providing insight? Some tarot card readers are incredibly good (and some are incredibly bad *grin*). Some skilled criminal interrogators seem to almost be able to *see* the crime taking place.

I wonder if all the tools for insight are a way to access/harness psychic ability (if such a thing exists).
Maneki Neko said…
I think we might err on dangerous territory if we start speculating abt Harry and children. He seems to have a good rapport with them when visiting children in hospital or when in Africa.

Because of J Epstein, Andrew and now G Maxwell, I think it's easy to see paedophilia everywhere. And in any case, I think it's wrong to label Andrew, for instance, as a paedophile - he might have been with young (?) girls but not children (as WBB-m, I think, said, the age of consent in the UK is 16).
Piroska said…
Anyone else notice that the GirlsUp event was sponsored by P&G otherwise known as Proctor and Gamble the recipients of the letter she says she wrote at the age of 11 about their dishwashing liquid ad.?
Thanks, @Tatty, I take your point about the tweet being fake but if you're referring to a mention of the birth, that was only 15 months ago - it may seem like years but we've been aware of MM for less than 3 years, hardly out of living memory.

Are we at crossed purposes?

BTW - paedophilia refers to acts against pre-pubescent youngsters, and puberty is starting younger and younger. Hebephilia (11-14) and Ephebophilia (15-19) are the term to use when referring to older age groups.
I have a question that I hope a fellow nutty can help me with.

Assuming MeMe merched her blue dress, how much money realistically could that bring in? Popular opinion is that she was NOT paid for this speech (they should ask for their money back if she was). There have been tonnes of warm fuzzy articles about her hair, dress, face, speech etc. All strike me as paid PR.

So I have to ask: did the merching cover the cost of the paid PR or does it cost her more to make the speeches look successful than the money it brings in????
lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko,

I agree. We don't know that Andrew has ever been sexually involved with a female under the age of legal consent in the UK (16). And there's no evidence Harry is sexually attracted to children.

It does seem odd Harry hasn't been seen interacting much at all with Archie in public given his apparently easy rapport with children in the past. And I don't think the "walking on water" photo released around New Year's was the same Archie we saw in the videos. But I do think IF there is an Archie, M wouldn't want to risk Archie seeming to prefer Harry to her. She did seem to show a flash of anger in the reading video when the child seemed to say "dada." It would have been the most natural thing to say, "yes, that's Daddy." But she didn't. Of course, we don't know who the child was talking to either. Or if the child is at the age where every man is dada.

But it also could be Harry is fine with kids when he's not responsible for them in any way and will probably never see them again. But with his own son, perhaps he's paralyzed with anxiety about not measuring up. And I'm sure M would reinforce that feeling. A supportive partner she's not. From everything we know too, Harry likely wasn't planning to be a father before his first wedding anniversary.

We don't really know what Harry's upbringing was like. But even Diana said Charles was a good father. He supposedly liked bathing the boys and did change diapers...although there were reports she felt jealous at times of his relationship with their children. So I'm not sure Harry's anxiety about fatherhood (if he has any) comes from his relationship with Charles or just Harry's general feeling about being second. I suspect Will wasn't always kind about that when they were young. And Harry's school failures were certainly well known.
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@MustySyphone,

According to the DM article, the GirlUp speakers weren't paid.

The blue thing she wore is a silk top according to Meghan's Mirror. Originally retailed for $990 but was reduced to $148. I'm not seeing how much she could make merching a reduced summer top especially when you couldn't tell it was a top. Think she made money when merching next season's clothes. But I'm not sure how all that works anyway.
Maneki Neko said…
@Lizzie

Thank you. I agree with everything you said abt Harry.
@tatty

[Bill and Melinda Gates] are only leaving their kids like 100k each after they die.

Actually, Bill Gates had stated in an interview around ten years ago that he would leave “only around $10 million” to each of his kids. But he’s already gifted his daughter Jennifer, who is in medical school, close to $20 million in real estate. And I suspect that like Warren Buffett he may create a foundation for each of his kids so they can play at being philanthropists themselves. Buffett’s son Peter married Jennifer Heil, the daughter of an old Milwaukee family, and they moved to NYC when his father established a foundation in his name with over $1 billion in assets. Buffett did this for each of his children.

Sorry, but there are so many ways for the uber-rich to feign moral superiority by claiming they will leave their children a minimal inheritance, when in fact those kids will have access to a sizable portion of the family’s wealth. It’s the kind of hypocrisy that galls me.
xxxxx said…
Paid or unpaid, I am sure Megs main reason for wanting to be on girlsup was due to Michelle Obama being on. Obama being a holy grail for Megs to be associated with. For Megs to get on the show means she still employs PR people.
HappyDays said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
Even making out that the expected child is a girl, not a boy, is pure Diana.

@WBBM:
Meghan’s extravagant New York baby shower had a strong pink theme running through it, no doubt to stir the media and royal watchers to surmise that a girl was on the way. I also recall Harry working a crowd at an event and mentioned something about the desire for a girl, so I have to wonder if Meghan in the role of Diana 2.0, led Harry to think they would have a girl.

I hope if they have ten children that they’re all boys. Emotionally, Archie will likely have more baggage than a 747, and the bulk of it will be courtesy of Meghan. Narcissists are toxic destructive parents who often view their children as miniature versions of themselves, but far beyond the normal vicarious hopes most parents have for their children

If Meghan has a girl, that child will be subjected to severe control and OTT manipulation aimed at stifling the healthy development of a daughter’s sense of self because she will be steamrolled by her overbearing narcissistic mother who will push her to fulfill Meghan’s empty dreams that she was never able to achieve. Compound that with fame and links to the RF gives any female child of Meghan an even worse outlook than Archie or any other male siblings who would likely be mostly ignored by Meghan if she ever has a girl.
hunter said…
I wanted to step in and agree with @Unknown above regarding the body of the girl in the Celebrity Jihad porno. It is a deepfake using Meghan's face.

The same reason as Unknown said - her boobs. Meghan's implants were stiff and round and tight. Porno girl's boobs are far more pendulous with natural motion - she has a more shapely waist and legs.

A friend of mine recognized the male porn actor as a known porn celeb. The lighting and angles make it pretty clear it is a professional sex scene. Long story short - this particular video is fake, a good fake, but not Meghan Markle.

The salad tossing video is rumored to definitely be her, I'm sure we'll never see it.
The Cat's Meow said…
Wow @Piroska great catch.

Incredible that MM is still trying to manipulate P&G.
Aquagirl said…
@Lucy, @Charade, @Nutty: Thank you all for your good wishes and suggestions. Nutty, I absolutely love Debbie Harry.

I think what’s putting me over the edge is, not only all of the celebrity stuff but everything else that’s going on in the world. I’ve mentioned on here before that many of my friends have been effected by COVID and I take it very seriously. I work from home so it’s easy to social distance; however, that being said, I do like to go out for walks, etc. In the past week, a BLM tent camp has gone up in the park across the street from my apartment. These are not homeless people.

Here’s a text from someone who lives in my building. He’s also self-employed and has been out of town for the past several months. I warned him of the situation before he returned. ‘Ok. Must say that you got me excited for a revolution but instead it looks exactly like a floor sample of a business model for a new franchise opportunity called America Resist. FFS, there’s a teepee that looks like it was purchased from an LL Bean catalog.’ He’s absolutely right. And this is a sweet little park that normally has a farmer’s market in the park and the surrounding streets on the weekends during the summer. That has now been moved in favor of BLM. They also usually have free movies in the summer, but I’m assuming that is a ‘no go’ this year. I normally attend, and would go this year if it was being held and we could socially distance. But, at this point, it seems like BLM is taking over all of our freedoms.

As far as COVID, the restaurants near here offer outdoor seating. Most of them are nice restaurants, and have been allowed to take over part of the streets for seating. Which is fine with me because I want places to stay in business. There is one place that’s always been like a frat bar, and now they have tons of outdoor seating. The noise and the drunkenly behavior are over the top and there is absolutely no social distancing. It’s 2 blocks from here and I can hear people screaming right now despite the fact that my windows are closed and the a/c is on.

This cannot possibly be the ‘new normal.’ Somethings gotta give.
Aquagirl said…
@Hunter: Agree with you about the Celebrity Jihad video not being MM, based on her body and especially her boobs. Speaking of which, I’ve been wondering how your new business is going? I’m sure it’s difficult to fundraise in the current environment but have been thinking of you and sending my best!
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I'm still writing that blog post in which I use meghan markle as an example of bad behaviour.

Thought I could release it & make it public by mid-July but then it's turning out to be this 30,000-word autobiography in it's messy draft/dictated form (and Meghan is just a teeny-weeny part of it, she's not even the SCHTAR).

It's thérapeutic writing as I go through the many times I've been robbed a livelihood (the worst example being when a pair of American expats threatened me with violence at work after being promoted because one of them felt more deserving of it). It's difficult to write as it's one of the reason I have been to anxious to return to office work & have relied on work-from-home freelance gigs since.

Anyway I thought about making it public on August 17 (Indonesian independence day) and then I remembered that Meghan's a Leo, isn't she? Her birthday is in August? LOL.

Thanks to Nutty, I'll be blurring out the photos of Meghan on the news piece screenshots (because Nutty shared that a photo agency might take you down for using unauthorised photos—I recall a while back a whole load of Tumblr blogs were taken down by pap/photo agencies for that very reason).

Also, have you ladies considered whether Meghan has watched Sofia Coppola's film “Marie Antoinette”? I criticise that film in my blog post (for its portrayal of an Austrian royal/aristo where she says, "this is ridiculous", that's Holywood lingo & an Austrian princess would never say such a thing). And while writing it, I thought: HAS MEGHAN SEEN THIS FILM?? IF SO, HOW MANY TIMES HAS SHE SEEN IT?

It's a very "Valley Girl" portrayal of Versailles, in case you haven't seen the film...
Scandi Sanskrit said…
This is hard to write even 2nd hand as a comment on this blog. I think I'm about to cry an fits only 08:42AM Indonesia time. I need a break from this place or I'll cry everyday until I finish the blog post

Sorry I keep spamming this olace
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Take care and wear your masks.
I wish you all well (yes, even the Americans—but only the nice once who aren't constantly trying to “put me in my place”).

Take care and stay healthy💜💜
Aquagirl said…
As much as I think that JH is not the guy that we thought he was, and that his entire career was created by ELF, I don’t for a minute believe that he is a pedophile. I think he absolutely adores kids, and it makes sense to me that he especially seemed enamored with children while visiting his favorite place where he felt most at home. I can see W&K not wanting him around their children while he was under the influence, (which, IMO, is also why MM was not welcome), but his current issue is that he doesn’t actually have a child and he has to pretend. Imagine how difficult that must be.
@Sandi Sanskrit

I wish you all well (yes, even the Americans—but only the nice once who aren't constantly trying to “put me in my place”

You mean the Americans who don’t appreciate your hate speech against them?
CatEyes said…
@Scandi Sanskirt

If you didn't trash Americans like you do from time to time maybe no one would respond to your insults.
Thank you, @CatEyes. I’m glad I’m not alone.
Hikari said…
@Scandi

Re. Marie Antoinette as depicted in Sofia Coppola’s movie, there are certainly a lot of similarities between this character and MM. it didn’t end well for Marie either, but I can cut her a little bit of slack seeing as she was only 14 years old when she was ripped away from her home and everything she knew and shipped off to the court of France to be a teenage bride in a purely political marriage. Though Antoinnette had the advantage over Meg of being raised with the concept of royal duty from birth, as a princess of the blood. She should’ve done better, but she was only a kid, and she paid for her mistakes at a far younger age than Meg now is.

The tone and style of the movie are intentionally anachronistic...The idea was to portray the court of Versailles as a 21st century music video. It is definitely not intended as a history lesson. I had low expectations for it, but surprisingly it turned out to be the only film in Sofia Coppola’s very slim body of work that I can tolerate. Sofia was raised in the kind of Hollywood royalty privilege That Meg has aspired to all her life, and what she continues to chase. Like Meg, Sofia had an overindulgent father He treated his only daughter like a princess, and who out of love, just like Thomas, propped his daughter up financially and artistically and has given her an Overinflated idea of her own gifts. Because she is the daughter of one of the great American directors, Sofia gets to shine in her papa’s reflected light. She has been ridiculously over rewarded for her slender output, And the scuttlebutt is that it’s actually Francis who does most of the directing on his daughter’s pictures. What grown professional woman now in her 40s takes her daddy to work with her every day? Like Meg, Sofia has ridden the coattails Of influential and connected men in show business to get where she’s at, either by being related to them… Her dad, her brother Roman, Both of whom gave her her first and only acting jobs, or sleeping with them. At least Sofia does not inflict herself on us in front of the camera any more. I’m sure Meg would be interested in cultivating her, for starring part in one of Sofia’s movies.

Don’t let the bastards get you down!
CatEyes said…
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CatEyes said…
@Hikari said...
"Don’t let the bastards get you down!"

Would you be referring to me as a 'bastard' since I objected to the anti-American insults Scandi writes? Just want to clarify....
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@puds: thank you for your kind words, I am sorry for the can of gresusome worms I opened. 🙏🏼💜💜

@Hikari: yes I am aware of anachronism of that film (ex: Converse shoes).

@Golden Retriver: so telling a story about how Americans wanted to bash my head in in front of a British colleague after an Australian manager/director promoted me is "hate speech"? Speaking up against someone being disrespectful toward a history church in England is "hate speech"? Saying it was unfair to commit a genocide against falsely-accused "communists" is hate speech?

Is posting these links also hate speech:

Exhibit A: https://indonesiaexpat.biz/featured/american-arrested-after-hit-and-run-in-bali/
Exhibit B: https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/799143167/u-s-wont-hand-over-wife-of-american-diplomat-wanted-in-fatal-u-k-car-crash
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7980031/Like-Anne-Sacoolas-killed-biker-driving-wrong-road-ex-MP-JULIAN-BRAZIER.html

@nutty: I apologise for triggering the person we're supposed to not engage with. I really am. I'll leave the blog for now. And will stop talking about how Americans have treated me in my life & how that compares to how meghan behaves, keep that on my own turf, and leave it out of your blog.
CatEyes said…
@Scandi Sanskirt

I was referring to the insulting things you said the other day about how dumb Americans are because we don't know who the Indonesian president is and we expect you to know about American history. I merely responded "don't include me in your stereotyping" the other day. I never insulted you nor Indonesians because I don't do what you do, stereotype.

Nutty has never said for people not to engage with me or anyone else in fact!
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Aquagirl said…
@Puds: Yes, I’m in the thick of it. But luckily I have a car and it’s supposed to be a nice weekend so I may take a drive to a beach. My favorite time of day at the beach is around 4 pm, which is when most people are gone, so it works quite well for me. A long walk on a beach is very soothing.

Believe it or not, I haven’t watched TV in about 2 years (even though I have a television). I usually watch Netflix, or go to an Indie theater. I generally read the news and books on my laptop, which makes me think that I’m probably getting too much blue light. Most of my hardcover books are Art and Design books, which I love flipping through, but probably best to buy a novel. Nothing like getting engaged in a great book.

Just got off the phone with a friend (the one who works in a hospital and has COVID 2x.) She recommended that I paint, which is another hobby of mine but one that I don’t always keep up with. Yet it’s another one of those things that totally engrosses me. I also have a few apartment projects that I’ve begun.

I think that’s why I’m finding this time so difficult. I’ve always known how to entertain myself (give me a few days of a blizzard and I’m fine.) Or during Hurricane Sandy, I spent days with my aforementioned friend and a few others, playing board games and drinking wine by candlelight.

But unfortunately, right now, so many of my friends have been/could be, exposed to COVID, so that’s nearly impossible. And sadly, my family is just quite irresponsible. My niece/goddaughter turned 16 on Saint Patrick’s Day, right after COVID hit here. They were planning on having a ‘friend’ party and a ‘family’ party. My brother got sick a few days before, so got tested, and it turns out he had Influenza-A, but still carried on with the ‘friend’ party (16 teenage girls.) They have a huge house, so I asked him if he planned to stay upstairs, but he didn’t. He participated in the party. They FINALLY canceled the family party, but only because 2 other family members got sick (not to protect the rest of us.) Really insulting. Anyway, her Confirmation got delayed from March until this weekend. There is a party but I declined to attend, knowing how irresponsible they are. Very sad, but consistent behavior on their end. I sent a gift. She loved it. That’s all I can do.
Aquagirl said…
Love Sofia’s movie, ‘Somewhere.’ Many people I know thought the movie was ‘slow’, but, for me, that’s her trademark. You either get her style or you don’t.
Hikari said…
CatEyes

Just to clarify, my use of the word starting with B was not directed to anyone here. It was more an exhortation along the lines of Keep Calm and Carry On..Life in general or Covid if you like. Just a turn of phrase

It’s definitely a fraught time for us all right now. The antics of the Harkle Farkle’s are not helping anyone’s peace of mind. Forget what her Majesty might have planned for those two; I think God is laughing at them pretty hard, and I think He’s got plans for them. Markle is a Jezebel and Harry is the proverbial fool. They are both mockers and liars and earn what’s coming to them. If they seem to be prospering now even a tiny bit, I trust that we don’t even have a fraction of the whole picture. This is going to end badly; it’s just not ending quick enough to suit me.
Aquagirl said…
@Puds: Thank you for your kindness. Speaking of photos, I’ve been perusing lots of old family photos which are so amazing! Especially love the ones of my grandfather! (He was the only grandparent I ever knew.) My goddaughter (who is making her Confirmation) imitates him! I’ll ask her, what did my Grandpa do at your Grammy’s wedding? And she gets the poses perfectly every time. So adorable!
CatEyes said…
@Hikari

Thanks for your comments.

I agree it is going to end badly with the Harkles and it can't come soon enough for me! I used to be addicted to keeping up with this blog but I finally hit a brick wall and can barely stomach reading any more of about them, much less commenting on them. I just hope they don't harm the monarchy irretrievably as I hope to live to see William become King one day.
Aquagirl said…
@Hikari: Agree. But when someone mentioned here the other day that the Harkle’s situation could go on for at least another decade...wow, please say it isn’t so.
Aquagirl said…
@Puds: Kanye vs. Megsy. Who ever thought we’d be considering either one of them?
Aquagirl said…
@Puds: Everyone I know in the US (I should specify....those who actually know who she is) despises her. I cannot imagine her ever getting elected. Perhaps she should follow Kanye’s path and become a (for profit) preacher. Her merching fits right along with that scenario.
lizzie said…
@Puds wrote:

"The poor Brits will be done for if Megs becomes President [of the US]"

Admittedly I'm an American but I think the chances M could ever be elected president are so close to zero they might as well be zero. But if she was, I think the US would be in bigger trouble than the UK!
Fifi LaRue said…
For a billionaire, with a lot of billions, a million or 10 million dollars is but a drop in a bucket for them. I personally don't think Bill and Melinda Gates are funding Markle and Harry. No, not when those two Lazy Loafers have the $$$ of the Commonwealth supporting them.
HappyDays said…
Hi All,

OT, but Celt News’s latest video says the Cadillac Escalade Meghan and Harry rode in to the dentist last week was an armored vehicle with gun ports, electrified door handles, and a pepper gas system. She said the vehicle costs about $350,000 which is on the right price range for a fully armored vehicle like that, which if this is true, drives the fuel efficiency way below the reported 14 miles per gallon for a standard Escalade. I’m guessing perhaps as low as 5 to 7 miles per gallon due to the added security weight, which likely includes bullet-proof glass.

Doubtful they own it, but it still seems a bit OTT.

I am wondering where Celt got this tidbit of news. She is generally accurate with factual info and lets the viewer know when a source has given her inaccurate info. Has anyone seen this info about it being an armored vehicle anywhere else?
abbyh said…

Shooting birds on the endangered list - well that's not helping the environment as it is screwing up the nature balance/food chain. We don't always understand how it works until we add something which is highly invasive or kill something we really need (we aren't doing well for the bees).

Aquagirl, I was very sad to hear of what happened to your friend. Male rape is years behind female rape in terms of understanding/willingness to do something about it legally or options for mental healing.

An interesting book is The Witch Doctor's Apprentice. She wasn't terrible well known (then or now), she writes about indigenous people in the Amazon in the 1950/60's so that world view is a little dated but she went there and things happened. She was trying to collect ethnobotanical information/plants for pharmaceutical companies. Give her some credit (she thought of the perfect gift to give each village "witchdoctor" to get them to talk to her: a glass eye).

Nice to hear that gratitude had a mention in the speeches (Priyanka).

I tend to agree that the BRF is been good about playing the long game and that it would be difficult for her to play innocent while he slid down. Some questions worth asking (when pictures are released) :
so what did you do about this besides taking pictures and how did you document this (taking action)?
how can you prove you did not partake in drugs/sex/anything else?
This would be all about responsibility for seeking help and not being an enabler (and considering he really doesn't know anyone in LA, how would "the right people" have had access to find drugs for him in the time of covid?).

Her future looks like it is getting fewer and fewer choices.

Loved the comparison of the lip look to the bicycle foot-pedal. That was a good one (almost spit out the coffee).
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties,

@Scandi, I do not mind your comments re Americans. There are rude/awful Americans at home and abroad. And of course, there is The Duchess One--THE personification of ugly Americans--pushy, know it all, demands respect, demands attention, who is always right and expects the world to worship her, greedy and probably does not really speak any foreign languages! The reason we are all here, really. Those of use, Americans or not, are horrified by her behaviors and dumbfounded that "our betters" allow this behavior to continue. Write your blog and put it out to the world.

@AquaGirl, your comments about family. To get your mind off of other things or if you are stuck at home--you might want to get into genealogy. It can take up all your time, if you let it.

According to the Daily Express (yes, the Express) JM will not be writing a tell all, says her husband. Darn, I say!
According to the `Hello!' article in Yahoo News today, MM made a `sweet'(excuse me while I heave...how I hate that word!) reference to Archie in her Girls Up speech. It is accompanied yet again by the photo of H in `Canada' holding the presumed little `girl' in a 2-bobbled hat.

It is captioned `Archie and Harry in Canada last year', of which `Harry' is the only word we can say is categorically true.

How blind/stupid do they think we are that we should contemplate that this is the same child as either the Tutu Baby or Duck-Rabbit Baby, assuming that these were different children?

Bless my soul, it's so surreal its is getting like `Spider-baby' from Father Ted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AB7IDw3PNI

They must think we're clones of Father Dougal McGuire.

As we've said so many times, it's all smoke-and-mirrors with these two. Too easy to think that everything we see is untrue and to imagine that anything else may be true.
jessica said…
I imagine Meghan does have photos and diaries of everyone’s misfitting behavior.

If Obid’s book is in line with these WOKE ‘do what ya want YOLO’ immature speeches, then it is just not going to go over well. Pretending they don’t ‘have freedom’ in the lap of luxury and spilling the secrets...bizarre behavior. She signed up for a place in the RF and decided it wasn’t for her, who cares? Further, why is she still hanging onto that title.
The only person who cares about that narrative is Meghan. Even Harry said “JKMH”. He’s over being a Royal. She’s still hanging on for dear life. Don’t understand why, at all. Be yourself, girl. Female empowerment. Yada. This is what I mean about Megs. She is a walking giant contradiction on almost every point she makes. She has one foot in and one foot out of everything so that she can play her twisted games until she gets a bet right (like Harry). It’s confusing, obnoxious behavior. She is not an example to others, so this woke crap has got to stop.

Now, I’m sure the RF is side eyeing all of their antics. The ‘royal’ without royal plans.

I don’t think anyone but the RF is funding them. I think Megs has photos and will live on in infamy and always be a thorn in the RF’s side. I think she’s trying to nab her next spouse. I would be shocked to see her in London again. And I think Harry will only go along with this for a little bit. I think once Charles pulls the rope on the finances (as they keep hinting), it’s going to be a ‘come to Jesus moment.’ For these two. Meghan has put Harry in an impossible position. Charles is going to have that talk ‘you’re on your own financially’ end of year and they don’t have independent cash to save face and cover their bills. They aren’t entitled to ‘protection.’ It’s all going to get stripped back. What will they do then? I think they don’t believe her PR budget will end.
Jdubya said…
I keep thinking maybe Charles isn't the only one paying them. The queen may be contributing funds too. I can't see PC ever completely cutting them off. I feel he carries a lot of guilt over all the Diana stuff. And i think Harry knows which buttons to push to get what he wants.

Harry always seems to look sour in all the Pap shots. I think he really doesn't like doing them and it is Megs that is always setting them up. He just goes along because he can't stop her.

I also think Harry is the one stopping any merching of Archie. I think that is the one thing he has said "hell no" to.
Crumpet said…
@Jdubya and @jessica,

Speaking of bleeding red and the RF funding the Duo. In a new Spectator UK article, "Could Felipe Be the Last King of Spain?", it talks about the growing demand for a Spanish referendum re the Spanish Royal family. Spain, being hit hard--economically--by COVID, has had enough of the hypocrisy and lavish spending by Spanish Royal family while the average Spaniard is struggling to survive. Hmmmm......
@Happy Days-

Assuming the info from Celt News about the armoured car is pukka gen, it tells us about the H$M's thinking - they are at least half-expecting an assassination attempt.

Anything as obvious as that would have finger prints all over it. We'd better not go down that rabbit hole.

Which leads me to wonder- could `Duck-Rabbit' have been a coded message for all of her critics, a reminder that we often don't know what we're looking at? Perceptions constantly shift?

Even if that is too subtle for MM, it's a good metaphor, inviting an academic paper -

`Duck-rabbit: towards a new understanding of the mechanisms involved in the manipulation of illusion in contemporary public affairs, with reference to the sleight of hand practised by aspiring individuals exhibiting signs of profound personality disorder within the context of current Californian celebrity culture.'

Please add your own cliches, I've used all the ones I can recall, then feel free to write your own Abstract.

Btw, I can't remember where I first read `bicycle-pedal lips' - it was a snide reference to Julia Roberts. Thanks for the warning about having to keep up with the fillers once one goes down that path.

Which reminds me, I once heard terribly cruel, but funny, comments about a former Prime Minister and an elderly rock star by an art tutor talking about how to draw mouths & lips. Of his examples, one had a mouth that looked like as if it could be used as a tin-opener, the other could be stuck a window with his lips.

Now, presumably it's non-racist for a white Brit to make such comments. Also, in cheap novels, thin lips are a signifier for cruelty, or at least hardness. What about MM using it in that way to imply something unpleasant about Catherine's character? Did that count as racism? That is, was it a racist remark in that context, or didn't it matter that way round?
Anonymous said…
Re calls for a Spanish referendum on the aboilutiin of their monarchy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain
Maybe tghe generation that remembers Francis facist dictatorship for 40 years 1935 -1975 will think otherwise about a referendum .The economy then was far worse during Franco's 'reign' until Franco restored the now ruling monarchy in 1975 prior to his his death
Anonymous said…
*abolition *
jessica said…
I don’t think we’d be seeing so many articles about Charles plans to strip back the monarchy and budgets unless this was a precursor to how they plan to handle Harry. Prince Andrew had many financial struggles while IN the RF! His daughters work full time (with the perks of being apart of the RF in London).

The only way I see Charles funding them further, is if they back off public speaking gigs and take regular jobs, like people do. Even acting gigs if they can get them. There’s just no way they will keep funding these political speeches and the association with the RF. If Megs doesn’t agree to back off, the yes I’m pretty sure they will take the titles. It’s the only way to keep The Monarchy brand safe.

So I see it playing out with a few options, because the RF is kind and considerate. A)titles and regular jobs b)no titles and do whatever you guys want c) either way the budget gets rolled back and e)no security. I think Meghan is worried about the titles. Why else mention working Bea and Eug in her lawsuit?

While the RF IS a trust fund family, there is precedent for how they’ve handled finances and stripped them back from heirs that are not senior members. It will be painful for the RF, of course, to watch Harry make those choices. I don’t believe Charles is as big of a pushover as we think. I think William is definitely not a pushover and Harry crossed him and abandoned his duty.

So at the year mark there will be an important meeting to finalize all such things (in or out, money or no, titles or no). They are seeing how much money they can make (or who Meghan can meet) before such decisions. I don’t think it will be rolled back from
The year because of the antics they have displayed while using their titles.
If we are right about the odd lumps and bumps visible on M's back, she was wired for secret recording. She's probably got every single injudicious comment made in her presence logged and tucked away somewhere.

Could she have gone as far as planting bugs? There were reports that when Ceausescu came a-visiting to Buck House, his goons stripped off wallpaper, looking for mikes. She's as crafty as any dictator, even the Romanian one.
Anonymous said…
@WBBM It must have been alarming for security seeing those Ceausescu goons stripping off the Buck House wallpaper during tbeir visit.Imagine the horror it must have been like watching vandalism .The very careful way that refurbishing if Buck House at presents being undertaken right down to the inute detsuls .Including the utmost care taken of preservation of the wallpaper having it removed .The Royals appear very tolerant of the many visitors to Buck house from souvineer swipers to ducrstirs demanding wallpaper stripped for security measures theyve experienced every type it seems .
Magatha Mistie said…

If she was “wired” in the technical sense
whilst wearing her green “ fasten your seatbelts” outfit
she would have been disappointed, no one spoke to her.
Unknown said…
OT Warning for Nutties...

@Aquagirl Be well. Be blessed. I share those feelings about what life has become since Covid-19, BLM, and just everything. Now, every "normal" step of life is so costly and expensive on the mind, body, and spirit. Every morning, I wonder if things will ever get back to "normal." I was spiraling to a very dark place before but I got some semblance of sanity by starting everyday listing my gratitudes. I also do meditation walks daily. I've never liked seated meditations but I enjoy doing them walking because I can manage longer bouts of "freedom." I started with 20 mins and now go for 2 hrs. I hope you can find bouts of your own freedom.

@Scandi Sanskrit I hope you and your loved ones are doing well. I am truly sorry about what you went through at your job. I'm sending a virtual hug to you. Be well. Be blessed.

I'd love to read your blog because I love your writing style and all the culture and sociology you bring into the mix. I'm not surprised there is so much to write about Meg. I've been brushing up on psychology, anthropology, and sociology because of how great a case study she is on so many things. Some Ph.D student has an easy thesis in the making.

I second what @Crumpet says about not minding your comments about Americans. It's no accident that the BRF call Meg "The American." As someone with a lot of family and friends in Canada and Europe, I've gotten used to the "Ugly American" stereotype and it's gotten worse the last few years. Thankfully, they still think I'm a "nice one." I also contend with the NYer stereotype when I visit family in the South and Midwest. LOL, I am always analyzing and re-analyzing *my* personal American-isms and NYer-isms so things go smoothly. I look to the BRF on lessons of diplomacy all the time because it's not easy.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(E)

Another astrologer -- https://www.astrogold.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Meghan_Markle-birth_chart_report.pdf

This reading is one of the more accurate ones, because it is objective, and not colored by "oh, the Meghan-ness" as so many astrologers are.

Note from the beginning, Sun in the 1st house -- [Y]ou believe strongly in the right of the individual. This is because it's so important for you to
have the freedom to explore your own personal interests and make your own way in the world. Some would call you arrogant and selfish; however, you're equally determined that others should also have the ability to express themselves. You learn most through your own experiences, rather than relying on the advice of others. You may not realise it, but you also make a strong impression on those around you. They see you as
assertive and independent, whether you feel it or not.

______________________________________________

Okay. I have gone as far as I have the strength to go with Meghan, and would like to move on to Harry, and then the two of them.

There is SO MUCH MORE that I am unable to share, on account of I'm not good at it, nor do I have the energy. But it's all there.

Her childhood, her motivations, "friendships" that really weren't, etc.

Hoping those who might have an inkling of this kind of stuff might see.

*waving* till next time

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

The odd lumps and bumps on Megs back could
also be excess botox/fillers, trying to escape her.
Too toxic for toxins.
Crumpet said…
@Charade and @AquaGirl, I hope there is some type of normal that returns in the future, but while we wait, I love your freedom walks idea.

@Magatha, @WBBM, both of you, so funny! Love the duck-rabbit title for your fantasy academic paper. I think it is actually a very accurate portrayal of what is going on socially and politically.
Just watching a piece on BBC news about the big names recently being hacked on Twitter to send out bitcoin scam posts. Kim and Kanye were mentioned and I'm now wondering whether the Harkles would have been included if they had an active account - or would the hackers not have bothered because they'd have realised that nobody would fall for a "send me $1k and I'll send you back $2k" scam from that pair as everyone suspects they don't actually have the amount of money they pretend to have?
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Duck-Rabbit, Daffy and Bugs?
Eiderdown and Roger(ing)
Anonymous said…
CatEyes said...
@Scandi Sanskirt

I was referring to the insulting things you said the other day about how dumb Americans are because we don't know who the Indonesian president is and we expect you to know about American history. I merely responded "don't include me in your stereotyping" the other day. I never insulted you nor Indonesians because I don't do what you do, stereotype.

Thank you again @Cat Eyes. . I don’t think she gets it, though.
For general enlightenment, the name of Indonesian president is Joko Widodo.(Wikipedia)

I looked it up.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Charade

OT. I love New York!
Only been twice, first time 1987.
Exciting, bit hairy in parts!
2010 took my kids, without husband, for a week, fabulous!
Christmas time, Macys windows, Rockefella ice skating and
Radio City Rockettes. Wonderful.
Also took in a Knicks V Celtics game at Madison.
Still managed to shop, and have hot chocolate in Central Park.
What a city, love it!!

New Harry Markle up - Meghan incites anarchy, gets thumbs down
I'm still p*ssed off about the earlier comment about older people (over 40?) not being able to change their mindset.

I'm twice Markle's age and certainly changed my mind about them!


Eowyn said…
Lucy wrote: "@sharon LOL about the socks! Really makes me think it is her. I checked it out very long time ago. Looked like her but her boobs looked too big or something. I wasnt convinced but the socks may tip me over the edge LOL!"

Meghan Markle had breast implants when she was suitcase girl on "Deal or No Deal." She had them removed later.
Could they have been the virtual cotton socks I sent her for their 2nd wedding anniversary?
JHanoi said…
i think PH is almost beyond redemption in the eyes of the general public. his continual attacks on his own country aren’t endearing him to the people. bailing out on his family and duties is fine if he had an upstanding way support himself (dr. engineer, militarty, pilot, gardiner, or something! ) and his family, but he doesn’t and his wife is shadyier than he is. Sponging off dad and rich celebs is extremely negative and will bring nothing but greif.

when Randy Andy was younger like PH’s, he was very popular with the people, until time went on, and he got old, plump, middle-aged, more arrogant, more flawed, more sponging & money making schemes with his rich hangers-on, and finally epstein. PH is in for the same thing, once HM isnt around to protect / pay for PA, will PC do it or cut him off? when PC isnt around to pay /protect for PH will Wills do it or will he cut him off?
I think PW would want to try to help PH, but until the nightmare wife is gone, PW may have to cut him off and let him make his own mistakes.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I'm still p*ssed off about the earlier comment about older people (over 40?) not being able to change their mindset.

I'm twice Markle's age and certainly changed my mind about them!


Older people have experience with those that have severe personality disorders and do not instantly accept their narrative. Young people, not so much, unless they have personality disordered family members. Megs wouldn't like to be around those that do not regard her with instant adoration and blindly believe everything she says. Older people with experience will just sigh and think "Oh, great, we have another crazy here!" as soon as they hear her word salad.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Aquagirl, if you're a Debbie Harry fan, here's an idea: get the audio version of Debbie's book on Audible.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Face-It-Audiobook/0062694812

Debbie herself reads the book, so you'll get to spend 9 hours with her as she relates her life story.

I personally find audiobooks very good for sleepless nights, as well as for getting dull chores done.

I believe that you get one free audiobook when you sign up for Audible.
SwampWoman said…
OT: Scandi, I would like very much to read your blog. Don't obsess over getting it perfect. Just set it up, and start posting some blog posts tomorrow about your interests. Best to avoid politics (grin) unless you have a *very* thick skin and do not really care about what anybody else thinks of you.
SwampWoman said…
JHanoi said: when Randy Andy was younger like PH’s, he was very popular with the people, until time went on, and he got old, plump, middle-aged, more arrogant, more flawed, more sponging & money making schemes with his rich hangers-on, and finally epstein.

I remember when Prince Andrew showing up at local restaurants with his Navy pals was a VBD years ago. Personally, I would welcome the lack of recognition so that I could finally have a meal in peace.
Hikari said…
@Puds

@ Hikari, I have been trying to think of an historical figure whom I could compare Megs to, even a film anti heroine but I am coming up blank. She doesn't touch the Borgias, there's possibly an element of Anne Boleyn but I think Megs is more scheming, latest on CCN is that she will, at some point go for President of USA. I have a funny book elsewhere on all the Kings and Queens of England and they are quite murderous and ruthless, I don't think Megs is murderous. I shall have to refer to this book for some help. Megs herself will be an historical figure, will she just be glossed over, or will films be made in the future recording all her machinations. Maybe if a divorce is soon she will merely be dismissed as Harry first wife. I sort of doubt that, it depends on what's to come.

I too am coming up dry for an historical figure outside of Hollywoodland. I could draw parallels with Megsy and products of the old studio system during the Golden Age of Hollywood--you want to talk about a powerful PR machine?--I believe Hollywood in those days was called 'The Dream Factory', and Meghan is certainly trying to manufacture herself as a dream girl extraordinaire and jam it down our collective throats. The Bette Davis - Joan Crawford rivalry, replete with colossal bitchiness & scheming makes the rivalry Meg is trying to manufacture with Catherine look very small time, because of course, it's a rivalry of one. Meg's target isn't playing and doesn't respond to her poison.

('member back 2 years ago when all the papers and the blogosphere were saying "Now that Meg's in the Firm, Kate is really going to have to raise her game and stop being so dowdy and boring.' Catherine has grown admirably as a more high-profile consort-to-be in these last few years, but I'm sure it wasn't out of a sense that she had to compete with the person who vowed to 'hit the ground running' and who turned out to the laziest Royal. Out of 18 months as a 'working royal', about 12 of those were on 'maternity leave' or 'taking a break'.


Bette & Joan were widely acknowledged to be terrible people and neglectful/abusive mothers. One thing they had which Meg categorically does not was exceptional acting talent. But they were certainly career/image driven to the expense of all else and thought nothing of sacrificing family members, lovers and friends on the altar of their ambition. Just like Meg.

It's hard to find other women in history like Meg because when history records women at all, it tends to record only the exceptional ones. Before the age of social media--this age--somebody as nasty and sub-mediocre as Meghan would not have come to wider attention, unless she committed a notorious crime. The Farkles have been oft compared to Bonnie & Clyde, who live on in legend but who'd have been even more famous if they'd had an Instagram account. Then of course there's the Wallis Simpson comparison, except I doubt the Duchess of Windsor was a sociopath. Also she knew how to wear clothes.

Hikari said…
One modern person does come to mind. Ever heard of the Lululemon Murder?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lululemon_murder

The perpetrator, Brittany Norwood, was an attractive young Black woman with a personality, as described by family members, very much like Meghan. Spoiled, materialistic, encouraged to think she was All That, she dropped out of college and fictionalized her resume to get a great job in the hospitality industry at a high-class hotel in Washington, D.C. greeting dignitaries and celebrity guests. At this job, as all others Norwood had ever had, money and possessions went missing from the business and from coworkers. Norwood moved on to Lululemon, the high-end women's workout apparel store in Bethesda, where she trained as an associate. Jobs at Lulu were highly sought after, and you had to be a hot, fit young female to work there and model the clothing line. This prestige job paid very little and despite strict anti-shrink policies, the store began to experience clothing and money going missing whenever Norwood was working. Her supervisor called her in for a meeting and accused her of the thefts, saying there would have to a review and probation. Norwood lured her back to the store after closing on the pretext of a forgotten cell phone and brutally murdered her, then claimed that some male assailants had broken in and attacked the two women, killing the other woman and tying Norwood up in the stockroom. She inflicted injuries upon herself to burnish her tale, trashed the store and managed to tie herself up.

Do I think Meghan capable of this? Yes, I have to say I do. I think she meets all the sociopathic markers; she just hasn't been pushed to her breaking point yet. If (when) she is, I fear for Harry's safety and that of any vulnerable child living with her, though I lean toward 'Archie' being a fiction.
I've concluded that there's too little emphasis on wisdom these days. It's right that we should try to solve the challenges of dementia but an overemphasis on this leads the young into thinking that those of us who have been around for a long time are all ga-ga.

Older people were once respected for their ability to use what they had learnt in life for the benefit of those with `minds unclouded by experience', an approach rejected by western youth culture.

A friend, aged 70, told me this week that she was watering the garden and her 7 year old granddaughter started cheeking her for being an old fogey.

She pointed out that the old should be respected for their wisdom.

`What's wisdom?', the child asked.

So friend told her it was something born of experience, the ability to act well and apply what one has learned in life, or wtte -

`What's more', she added, `I'm the one holding the hosepipe!' - and she turned a gush of cold water on the cheeky little blighter.

A quick lesson in the wisdom of recognising power!

My dictionary defines `wisdom' as

`a) the ability or result of the ability, to think and act utilising, knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense and insight

& b) accumulated knowledge , erudition or enlightenment.'


(Collins English Dictionary 1986)

That just about covers all dimensions of `wisdom' and enables us to see how severely lacking H&M are all aspects of this quality.

How do we increase our own wisdom and encourage others to do the same for themselves? Wisdom is what the world really needs. Unfortunately, it is all too often driven out by greed and selfishness, as demonstrated by all those narcissists we have encountered.
@Hikari- The Lululemon murder.

Hmm. Not impossible. Didn't Harry say something about being afraid of her? Has she cowed him?

She lets nothing get in her way.
gfbcpa said…
@Nutty - I enjoyed Lisa Robinson's book very much, too. I remember reading Rock Scene in the '70's when she was writing about the New York Dolls and wishing that I lived in NYC, but I was only 15, so I had to wait a few years (actually eight years) before I convinced my parents and came here for grad school.

On a positive note, I received my copy of LCC's book this morning FINALLY !!!!!!
YankeeDoodle said…
I remember the Lululemon very well, as I had been a customer in the store just hours before the murder. It was horrific to read about, especially the almost total indifference of the employees in the Apple store that was next door. The Apple employees heard the fight, the pleas for help, and did not even call 911.
Hikari said…
Yankee,

Wow, what a chilling coincidence! Do you remember seeing the killer on the premises? She was a very pretty girl, but probably isn't as pretty now after 7 years in prison. She got life, deservedly.

I think we are all capable of murder under extreme duress. Sociopaths view other people as either useful objects or nuisances/obstacles/threats, so they don't have the same curb of conscience/morality that would make most people hesitate to hurt another except in the most extreme circumstances, like self-preservation.

This girl had never been violent before, but the insult to her self-image--being driven out of a job she loved (because she got to show off her hot body in skin-tight athletic wear, and the element of competition in a commission sales environment)--being called a thief to her face, even though she was one--could not be borne. But the consistent theme running through her early childhood days to her young adulthood was a propensity for lying and shoplifting. It would be entirely in keeping with Meghan's grifting ways as an adult embezzling huge sums of money to have often employed the five-finger discount when she was at the mall with school friends who could afford those luxury brands she craved.

The Apple store employees certainly should have intervened earlier; they dismissed the fracas they heard from next door as a domestic dispute, but that doesn't excuse them not calling 911. The victim might have been able to be saved had she been reached sooner.
Hikari said…
https://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Store-Murder-Lululemon-Athletica/dp/0425263649

A friend at work is into true-crime stories and she turned me onto this book. I recognize the personality type of the central antagonist very well now. I read it a couple years ago now, but I didn't really decide MM was a malignant Narc until six months into the marriage. Now there's no un-seeing it, so I wonder why everyone in the world hasn't cottoned on.
Hikari said…
@Yankee

Just on the Amazon site, I found this review of 'The Yoga Store Murder', which was written in January 2019. The book was published in 2013, two years after the events at the store.

The title of this review is "I Was In Prison With This Monster!!!"

If we take as true the writer's firsthand observation of Ms. Norwood, compare this with MM. We could be describing her. MM is also very fond of yoga, she keeps telling us.

I first heard of this on the news, then watched the complete documentary/story about this and could not believe my eyes, and ears!!! This woman almost pulled it off!
This book is very detailed and graphic but very true and keeping with the facts.
In prison she was this very frail looking, extremely thin woman who didn't seem to fit in with anyone, she was always alone and when interacting with others they appeared to be fake with her, not really her "friends". She worked in the School, I believe as a Teacher's Aid.
I was amazed at the degree of physical violence she inflicted upon her victim considering how tiny she really is.
I hope she isn't making g any money off of this book, as if what she did isn't crime enough. I'm pretty sure you can't profit here in Maryland from murdering anyone.....and everyone knows she was more then guilty of that .
Her victim was a beautiful young woman with her entire life ahead of her, and to think this killer took it all over to save face in light of her being caught stealing a pair of yoga pants.
BTW all the women in the Women's prison in JESSUP, MD. Call her "Yoga Pants" they do not refer to her by her name ...whether she is aware of this or not, I couldn't tell you.
If you're intrigued with true crime stories this is a good one! One you'll never soon forget.
Anonymous said…
In the Express:

Meghan Markle ‘stole Steve Jobs quote’ in speech sparking fresh plagiarism row
MEGHAN MARKLE has been accused of stealing a popular Steve Jobs quote and weaving it into the speech she gave to the Girl Up Leadership Summit this week.

lucy said…
OT

Remember when HM or BP in general issued the statement and/or directive regarding what the Press was printing about Meghan. I can't articulate my question correctly because I don't remember clearly.

It was basically a manifesto or call to arms to press headlines regarding both Catherine and Meghan. Am I making sense? It was in response to Meghan "being attacked" by the press. Can someone please direct me to where I can read up on it

I LOVE Deborah Harry. Beautiful and voice of angel. This is a favorite of mine :)
https://youtu.be/h0Hd3uWKFKY
If a child called Archie exists and is with them, what might she do to him once he was of no use?

Precursors of MM in English history? Try:

Isabella, She-Wolf of France (1295–1358)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_France

Yet more plagiarism to demonstrate how profound her thinking is? I'd take Lady C's comment further -` She's a shallow as a mustard spoon and as sharp as a butterknife.
Anonymous said…
@Lucy
https://eu.press-citizen.com/story/life/2019/03/04/kate-meghan-prince-harry-prince-william-social-media-guidelines-palace/3054297002/
Platypus said…
I was on Skippy’s blog earlier and someone had put a pic of Amber Heard and Meghan side by side, and they were standing the same way and even wearing the same type shoes — chilling. The pics of Amber in the DM of her smiling just sent chills down my back.
Hikari said…
@Puds



That really is the burning question, besides "Where is Archie?"---> "Where did all the money go?" The $3 million given by Disney ostensibly in exchange for Meg's narration of the Elephant video seems to be in the wind, too. All eaten up by PR, when that money should have been donated to elephant conservation in Botswana.

There seems to be very little oversight over these vast sums of money. Where are the accountants? I'm sure Charles puts a certain amount of money allocated for allowance into a bank account for Harry's use, but anything 'extra', like the bills for Meghan's extensive wardrobe or home reno should be submitted directly to Clarence House by the vendors involved, no? With Meg's clothing, they were obviously relying on her to submit her own tricked-out, wildly inflated receipts . . but I just don't understand how that much ready capital would have ever been accessible to Meg, the recently married-in wife of #2 son. If Charles just gave them limitless infusions of cash every time they said they needed some, well, shame on him. Where is the paperwork trail/proof of what was spent where? Very shifty.

I think the Harkles are paying back the amount they claimed on home reno, but perhaps when agents of Charles came to FrogCott to check on the progress of the interiors, they were greeted by a vacant, empty home with no new furnishings or visible work to account for all those millions of pounds. In the Royal family, the households are so spread out and everybody basically left to their own devices, the right hand really doesn't know what the left is doing.

Meg and Harry pulled something fast on his dad with that money. Meghan was denied her own separate bank account at Coutts, because Coutts is sensible and knows an embezzler when they see one. Presumably, Harry as the blood royal would have more access to his dad's money than his wife and would have been in on the scheme. Why in the world would a new wife who'd been on the scene only a few months, an untried entity, be given the keys to the safe, in a manner of speaking? Somebody enabled this reckless amount of spending.

Even though the Farkles' expenses for security alone far outstrip what they owe on the Cottage, that payment was inserted into Megxit to make a point. And financial irregularities, along with Meghan's absolute inability to accept that *she* was not the star/leader of the Royal Foundation led to the split. She actually complained, often and loudly how 'controlling' William was. Miz Kettle, that is so rich. Meg the Control Freak won't abide having control imposed upon her by *anyone* . . Not the future King of England who set up this Foundation, has his name on the masthead, and is the senior and the leader in the room by dint of both position and age. It's William's charity and he let his little brother and bint participate in it. It would have been great, had Meg been a normal, honest person eager to be joining the family and such an illustrious charity.
lucy said…
@Unknown Thank you for link!
CookieShark said…
@ Hikari re: the Lululemon killing

I remember this story well, as I was into "true crime" at the time.

Somewhere I read that sociopaths are their most dangerous when they realize that you mean business. The Lululemon killing certainly shores this up, as do the cases of Scott Peterson, Jodi Arias, and Chris Watts. In all three cases a boundary or line had been drawn by the victim.

I agree that she's not been pushed to her breaking point yet. As I said before, it's telling that she's always addressing the youth crowds. Her peers and elders see right through her immediately.
Catlady1649 said…
I've just seen a pic of Doria and Archie on Jerseydeanne. Archie in a plastic car thing. Don't know who could have taken pic. Maybe another leaked pic so that Megsie can sue someone else. We'll soon find out
abbyh said…


Where are the accountants?

Probably chasing information and receipts to do the taxes from last year or the year before.
lizzie said…
Wow. Archie surely looks closer to 2 than 1 to me in that picture with Doria. And while Doria is pretty stripped down (barefeet, short shorts, tank top) Archie has on a hat, long-sleeved knit shirt, and pants that come below his knees.

The picture seems to have been taken in a courtyard area of Tyler's property but no telling when it was taken.
Catlady1649 said…
I thought he looked nearer 2.
jessica said…
Meghan can’t sue anyone for that pic. Which is good news!

I mean she could, but it would go no where.

I have a child the same ‘age’ as Archie with a similar car.

Archie is not the age they claim.

Looks like a drone pic, and like Meghan took it and leaked it (because who is camping there caring about this family in Germany) It’s interesting this pic has come out after another commenter said it was probably Harry who is preventing him from being public. I agree with that sentiment and I don’t think Meghan likes it one bit. So here we are.
Hikari said…
@Cookie

@ Hikari re: the Lululemon killing

I remember this story well, as I was into "true crime" at the time.


Surprisingly, since I too like true crime and have read several of Anne Rule's books, and used to be an avid watcher of 'Dateline NBC', I had not heard about this case until my colleague started telling me about this book which she had received in a donation pile to the library. I heard the story over dinner, and then she lent me the book. I can't recall making any connection to Meg then, but Brittany certainly seems cut from the same cloth: Described by people who only met her superficially as bright, vivacious and charming--at her hotel concierge job, she presented so well--attractive and outgoing--that she was put in charge of the VIP guests at the hotel. She was making a serious 5-figure salary but working all the time and she quit and got the job at Lulu's. If it had crossed my radar at all, I dismissed it, 'cause 'lululemon'--yoga store for rich women--not relevant to me.


Somewhere I read that sociopaths are their most dangerous when they realize that you mean business. The Lululemon killing certainly shores this up, as do the cases of Scott Peterson, Jodi Arias, and Chris Watts. In all three cases a boundary or line had been drawn by the victim.

I agree that she's not been pushed to her breaking point yet. As I said before, it's telling that she's always addressing the youth crowds. Her peers and elders see right through her immediately.


If the money train dries up & the titles are revoked . . and even sooner, if the MoS lawyers completely destroy her attention-seeking, frivolous, snowflake lawsuit, she might lose her $#%^. She's trashed personal and work relationships before now, and burnt bridges with must be hundreds of people through her life to date, but never on such a high profile stage. Megsy hasn't considered that when you claw your way to a very high place, the whole world can see you fall off it. I feel like we are watching influential people and media outlets cater to this one delusional woman like she's the next coming of Oprah, Diana, Mother Teresa and Sojourner Truth ('Ain't I a woman?) all rolled into one.

There is literally NOTHING THERE to justify a crumb of attention being paid to her outside of the Royal family. Never have I seen a more blatant case of the Empress (in Her Own Mind) having NO CLOTHES. Having no clothes never particularly bothered Megsie; she seems to feel the most comfortable the the less she has on, but I am gobsmacked that she's still garnering so much fawning press attention in this age of a global pandemic and civil unrest the worst it's ever been. This is the great mystery of our time. Meghan is not just a modestly talented woman with a big mouth and a talent for honing in on the woke phrase du jour . . .She is literally NOTHING on her own merits. She appropriates everything she says, does, wears and writes from other sources. Of course she's a plagiarist; what is intellect theft of ideas but just another form of grifting?
lucy said…
I like the picture of baby with Doria. Unfortunately everything surrounding Archie is sneaky and suspect so who is to say who this even is. Regardless, looks fub for baby

Doria looks good! Very fit and toned, especially for 63. Maybe there is something to this yoga.

Looks like we know who Meghan got her feet from 😏
Unknown said…
Looks like Archie is merching a Buggy for what is it 79€? I wonder if they are trying to merch his hat, shorts, and rash guard too.

Talk about growth spurts! What are they feeding him? He is huge and I don't see any resemblance to Harry. This baby resembles baby Meg to me though.
Unknown said…
@jessica How old do you think "this" Archie is?

I wonder if Meg set up these shots for the British Press but they refused to print them. That's why we've got a German paper printing them instead. Maybe it's the British press out of loyalty to the BRF *not* JCMH FKAP that has prevented printing of shady Archie photos.
German commentators are saying faces of children in pics are pixellated unless parents give consent for the face to show.

Chances are the pics are approved and paid for. Pure commerce. End of story.

Or we may here about another lawsuit. If we don't it is money for pics.
Unknown said…
@Fairy Crocodile I believe it. I think these pics are British press rejects. Similar situation to that TMZ video.

Poor Archie or whatever baby this is. Meg is just too thirsty.
Re "Doria & Archie" pic. Is it just me or does the baby appear to be staring directly at the camera?
unknown said…
I think this is a set up by Meghan.

Harry doesn't want his kid out there like this. Everyone understands that. He left the RF claiming invasion of privacy, among other things. They didn't want to play by the rules like William and Kate. So be it. I'll never understand that decision by Harry, though. Meghan, sure, Harry no. She must have really pushed the 'im leaving' card to get away with all of this.

So Megz sells a picture. Remember they are creating the illusion of 'need for privacy' so that they can sell that 'privacy' at a high price. She's not wealthy enough for true discretion. Otherwise, why do we know anything at all about this family?

Megz lies to Harry all the time, so 'oh look the German photogs got us again! Help Harry! Your fame is going to kill Archie!' Harry, calls dad. "We need more money for more security and more exclusive house."

That's the media handbook that Meghan lied to Harry about. Her involvement and ruse with the press she then ran from in the UK when it was catching up with her.

Harry is still under the illusion all of it is real.

I can't imagine he is 'in the know'. To go from upper crust, true discretion where you don't work with the press to selling your stories to the press? No chance. Harry is dim, but he is from a certain class. He would never condone such a thing. Hence, why I believe he still doesn't know Meghan does this.

I agree the DM and US outlets turned down the pictures. They've learned how 'Sue Happy' Megs is. Unless the photos or videos come directly from her team, they aren't going to give her free press and then be backstabbed. Too costly.
unknown said…
I was wondering what PR thing she had on her calendar today as things went quiet after her dull speech.
lizzie said…
@Lurking With Spoon asked

"Is it just me or does the baby appear to be staring directly at the camera?"

I thought so too. I guess he really is M's son--- has the same uncanny ability to spot a camera no matter what! ;-)
unknown said…
"Hikari said...
That really is the burning question, besides "Where is Archie?"---> "Where did all the money go?"

As for foundation payments, I have no idea. I imagine that was overseen by KP, though.

As for Meghan's personal spending, it was clear to me due to her 'runaway' timeline, she realized she wouldn't have access or direct payments for any of her Royal work. No bank accounts, no hard cash, no assets in her name. She married Harry, Harry didn't marry her. And besides the Royal rules, the UK is pretty progressive in rules regarding adults and earnings. The USA, well, everything gets split.

I believe they operate on a 'credit card' basis and they had to get approval from Courtiers for all expenses, just as you do when you run a business. Weekly statements, reviews, and budgets. No doubt about it. She needed to make money on Harry's name and fast and it wasn't going to happen ever in the UK.

My theory is Charles gave her a lot of credit budget until he realized she didn't know what she was doing with it (Dior caftan?), and was common, unwilling to become Royal.

The cottage. I don't know what happened with that place. Meghan clearly didn't care for it either. Who renovates a home and bails within months of moving in to a brand new mansion? Most people would kill for that accomidation.

So I really think Meghan knew her budget was out of her control, her jobs were out of her control, and everything would be left with Harry in the UK including Archie. She was going to get a nice flat in Kensington upon their split, school fees and an allowance. Considering the public started hating her, she saw there was no chance to make money on the side in the event of a divorce. Fergie but worse.

So she bailed for those reasons alone. Everything else is just excuse.
Jdubya said…
I'm going to go off topic for a brief moment - having a good case of the giggles imagining this.

They are Saying ghaislane Maxwell is "secretly married" and won't name her husband.

What if she and PA go secretly married sot hey wouldn't have to testify against each other?

sorry sorry - just couldn't help myself on that.
Hikari said…
Re. Pic of Archie & Grandma

Gee, isn't it really weird that the EXCLUSIVE! rights to this photo belong to a German magazine? I wonder if it is Der Spiegel. Do Germans care about an addled British runaway prince and his washed-up wannabe wife?

Doria is in bare feet, pushing the (beefy) tyke around the patio at Tyler Perry's (whatever) in a toy car-stroller. This item has been around for years in multiple countries; my nephews had one. It's hardly a hot new toddler toy for the season. You'd see a hundred of them at any county fair you attended, if we were having county fairs this year.

The resolution on the photo is quite poor, obviously taken by one of those invasive drones that keep bombing the property. The buzzing noise must have got 'Archie's attention because the child does appear to be looking right at the camera. Presumably, even if a professional baby model, he's too young at this stage to coach to look directly at the camera.

A chubby toddler in a white sun hat; looks to be some blond hair peeking out, really. Could be a trick of the light and my eyes. 'Duck Rabbit' Archie had at most some light blondish fuzz, nothing to show from under a hat. It *could* be the same child, but it's just conveniently far enough away that it 'suggests' Archie while not being close enough to say for sure that it is or is not the same child we saw most recently.

Even if this child is big for his age . . I'd put him at at least 18 months, if not even closer to 2. He has totally filled out that little car.

One asks the reasonable question, if Doria is living with the family and helping Meg take care of Archie and hand-make his organic baby food . . why not have a nice, clear family portrait with Doria holding Arch and everybody smiling? One decent picture where they could arrange the shot to their liking? Instead it's all these clandestine fuzzy shots, to give the impression that 'their privacy was invaded . . unsuspecting Gran takes Arch out on the patio and he winds up in a German magazine, next to a caption and price tag for the stroller he's sitting in . .

These people exhaust me.

The following link is a companion piece to the photo, detailing the bucolic life there chez Perry with Grandma and the organic baby food blender. Barf me.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/inside-doria-raglands-stay-with-meghan-markle-prince-harry-archie/
Jdubya said…
Archie is definitely looking directly at the camera and Doria is not. Which tells me a lot.
Jdubya said…
Hikari's mention of a drone taking it makes me remember - Harry loves to play video games etc. he would very easily be able to fly a drone. What's to stop him from buying one and flying it around as part of their play - oh look we are being harassed by drones?

Also, if Archie can hear the Buzz, then so can Doria. And why had no one ever taken a photo of a drone buzzing the house? that would be H&M's proof they were being harassed.

SDJ said…

@Rebecca

Re the Express article mentioning how Meghan "possibly" plagiarised Steve Jobs. I love that the press is picking up on her total lack of independent thought.

Here's MM's quote:

And sometimes those voices can appear on the outside and sometimes they can appear to be painfully loud, but you can use your own voice to down out that noise. Because that’s what it is: It is just noise. But your voices are those of truth and hope, and your voices can and should be much louder.

Steve Jobs

Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your inner voice.


I wouldn't call it plagiarism, more like "borrowing" an idea. BUT, note the economy of words with Jobs' quote. The succinctness of the thought.

Compare with MM's which is a sentiment? admonishment? instruction? advice? Many, many words which don't really accomplish anything.

In MM's case, whenever she talks, the sum of its parts is always greater than the whole.
abbyh said…

The baby does look like it is looking at the camera. The angle it was shot at means that the person taking it is on the property, not outside it.

Then I was thinking about the whole we need privacy pitch which then got me thinking about the security/we need to be safe and this is why we need drivers and protection with people and houses. And then that super deluxe car incase something would happen. Maybe I don't remember it correctly but I thought someone said something about part of why her body had an off look in the green caterpillar dress was that there was a bullet proof vest.

That's a lot of crazy paranoia but, otoh, maybe it would be easy to keep him in must protect her mode by periodically raising the idea of a threat. That would keep someone off balance.
xxxxx said…
The drone shot doesn't say Backgrid or Splash...hahahhaha. Not Harry, he is too inept. Maybe Megs brought in someone to take some "faked invasive" drone shots.
unknown said…
They aren't being harrassed Meghan is selling the pictures and no one really wants them.

Harry didn't take them, because he would recognize them as his photos. I imagine it was deranged Megs, and Doria knew about it thus not looking up to get the 'granny on a stroll shot' and "archie, who whatever that kid is" looking up.

When running coordinated PR stories, Meghan would have a PR calendar and would know and authorize the release of paid PR content on the german mag. So it was a day without other press in the news, and this was sent to print.

unknown said…
I watch, through my sig other, the inner workings of a paid PR team on 50k per month, and their system is pretty weak. Meghan's is probably very robust.
Why id Doria living with them as the nanny when her house is 10 km away or something? And why is this picture of Doria and Archie? Do his parents never play with him outside or are they "too busy" with hobbies?
The spacing of that child's features are not the same as the kid in the book video. He is really solid but the features are less bulky and more delicate. More PR rubbish.
Grisham said…
I thought the baby was looking straight ahead and not up. Regardless, Doria looks great.
@Tatty

Doria looks better than her daughter.
abbyh said…

Lighthealer Astrid - I wondered if that was a different looking lad or not. I wasn't certain. thanks
Sooz said…
As to the timing of the story, I just realized that perhaps it's because it's Camilla's birthday tomorrow and they've just released a new portrait in commemoration. Does anyone know when these pics hit? I'd bet it's within a matter of hours ...
Sooz said…
Just checked, Clarence House and Chris Jackson both released Camilla's picture around 6pm EDT ...
I agree that the latest photo looks like a Meghan stunt.

Another bonkers idea: `Though she be but little she is fierce' -

If Harry believes that he is the father of a child, might she have threatened harm to it if he didn't toe her line? Perhaps she produces a child every so often, out of a hat so to speak, and Harry is too befuddled to realise it's not/may not be his?

I toyed with the idea that she might have made out he'd got her pregnant during the very first phase of their relationship. Hence the Invictus Games confrontation was equivalent to an angry father threatening daughter's boyfriend with a shotgun unless he made an honest woman of her. This scenario, however, would have required H to be so hopeless at arithmetic, and ignorant of biology, that he was unable to work out that she couldn't have fitted a secret pregnancy into her schedule.

That `procreation smirk' during the marriage ceremony still haunts me - it was so full of confidence, triumph and `duper's delight' - and possibly the knowledge that a child was already on the way, with or without H's participation. I couldn't tell, though, whether it meant `We know something that they don't' or I know something that you don't'.

Our latest analysis confirms the notion that Doris is in on the scam. Perhaps she and the child live together in a cupboard, to be brought out as the occasion requires. I'd have thought that H's professed loathing of the press would stop him being involved, or it would if he was telling the truth about how he regards them.

If he can't stand flashbulbs, how did he cope with thunderflashes during Army training? Did he curl up and whimper pathetically?
Hang on - that child's got quite a pointed chin. I bet it's a girl!

Could H tell the difference without changing its nappy?
Aquagirl said…
Nutty: Thanks for the information on audible. I’m sure I’ll enjoy it!
Btw, Who remembers `Kinky Boots'? Play,musical and film based on true story of a British shoe firm that survived by specialising in a certain kind of footwear?

Markle's legs and feet remind me of it every time I see a photo of them.
KC said…
WBBM made an excellent point:

If he can't stand flashbulbs, how did he cope with thunderflashes during Army training? Did he curl up and whimper pathetically?

A likely response:"Ummm.....that was different?"

Ah, Kinky Boots, I do remember that one!
Aquagirl said…
That is definitely not the same baby as the Tutu baby or the Duck Rabbit baby. And he’s huge! For someone who supposedly just started to walk, he looks as though he’s ready to run!

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