The most interesting news about the Sussexes this week hasn't been about the Sussexes.
It's been the ugly case of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, as their volatile relationship is dragged through the court system as part of a civil trial in Depp's case against The Sun newspaper.
Several humiliating photos of Depp have appeared in court, including one of him passed out and covered in melted ice cream.
In addition, several obviously staged photos have been introduced into evidence, including a very neat photo of some nicely-arranged lines of cocaine on a glass table near several other attractively posed objects.
Perhaps Depp got Martha Stewart to cater his orgies. Or perhaps Amber set him up.
As a regular reader of Mail Online, Meg can't help but notice.
It's been the ugly case of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, as their volatile relationship is dragged through the court system as part of a civil trial in Depp's case against The Sun newspaper.
Several humiliating photos of Depp have appeared in court, including one of him passed out and covered in melted ice cream.
In addition, several obviously staged photos have been introduced into evidence, including a very neat photo of some nicely-arranged lines of cocaine on a glass table near several other attractively posed objects.
Perhaps Depp got Martha Stewart to cater his orgies. Or perhaps Amber set him up.
As a regular reader of Mail Online, Meg can't help but notice.
Blogger Meg and her camera
Meg has had an interest in taking photos of the Royal Family since the very beginning.
There has long been a rumor that she was tossed out of Kensington Palace and sent back to Canada while dating Harry, after a staffer caught her taking photos of a private area of the palace.
It's also not hard to imagine that Meg's fondness for taking photos was one reason the Cambridges did not want the Sussexes to live next door to them at Kensington Palace.
The Cambridges are very careful about the privacy of their three children. Would you want blogger Meg to live next door?
What photos does Meg have?
Given that Meg has been living with Harry for nearly three years now - and that Harry is a known drug user and heavy drinker - it seems likely that she has some photos as embarrassing as the Depp images that she could threaten to release as part of a court case.
Photos of passed-out, pants-wet Harry, or video of a drunken Harry saying God knows what about his father or brother, would be terrible for the image of the Royal Family.
Concept: Meg insists on getting her way when it comes to a monetary settlement, custody settlement, or specific title, using the photos as leverage - with or without a court case.
Of course, aristocracy has been behaving badly for centuries. But as little as 50 years ago, they could largely impose upon the British press not to print unflattering images.
In the age of social media, that's no longer true.
A few taps on the keyboard and Harry's worst moments could be around the world in an instant, badly damaging the British Royal Family's brand value.
Images that would damage Harry most
What type of images do you think would damage Harry most?
Comments
Whatever she has on Harry I am sire same or worse can be dug out on her.
May be I am in the minority but I think she was involved with eh, sex entertainment at one point.
And I think Michelle Obama needs to be insulated from her. She's looking for more coattails.
I feel this is one of the reasons they don't cut her off financially - because heaven knows what she will come up with if they do.
It would be fascinating to know who is paying for Schillings, the expensive lawyers who are suing the Mail on Sunday.
My suspicion is that Harry is spending down his inheritance.
Drug use would be bad and very un-Royal, but hey, this is a guy who has already been photographed in a Nazi uniform, so Meg would have to up the ante.
My suggestion for the worst possible image - and I know we're all over 21 here, but look away if you're the sensitive type:
Something sexual involving bondage and discipline. (Joe Jonas of the Jonas Brothers was reportedly blackmailed with this type of photos a few years ago).
Harry wearing a dog collar, Harry with some kind of ball gag, Harry on his hands and knees doing God knows what - there would simply be no recovering from that - particularly in the very conservative Commonwealth countries!
A former military man in that type of situation...
That image would follow him for the rest of his life and make it almost impossible to have any kind of public presence going forward.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled comments.
I see we were thinking along the same lines. That said, I feel the British have a great deal of tolerance for camp. (Look up the terrible and embarrassing death of Conservative politician Stephen Milligan, if you dare)
I think some of the British public might find the bra and panty set amusing.
Looking forward to reading fellow Nutty comments. ;o)
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
Drug use would be bad and very un-Royal, but hey, this is a guy who has already been photographed in a Nazi uniform, so Meg would have to up the ante.
My suggestion for the worst possible image - and I know we're all over 21 here, but look away if you're the sensitive type:
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Jeeze, I guess you're right. I was being pretty naive!
Seems like more and more stories are coming out about public figures and kinky behavior. G-d forbid THAT becomes seen as drug use is anymore.
With Meghan, tho, I guess I wouldn't put anything past her. And gormless Harry is such an easy mark, I would think.
As for Harry...everybody knows he is a dimwit and plenty of damaging pics have already been made public. Nazi, naked, puking in the bushes. No surprise. People already know about his drug use.
The biggest damage to the royals will be a compromising picture of Wills, not Harry. If she has that then all bets are off.
Not sure but I think the latest pap walk in the loose dress from the medical building was a threat: "It's time for another baby"
Could be - do something I want or I produce Archificial Part II.
Once again, those car photos (for anyone who hasn't seen them, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513577/No-sweat-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-step-appointment-scorching-Beverly-Hills.html ) show no sign of them being parents at all.
Not only no child present, but no apparent car seat, or the sort of items that parents of children always seem to end up picking up for them whenever they go out.
That said, I saw another California woman of a similar age wearing a similar dress in the Mail Online today, in that sad story about Elvis Presley's grandson. So perhaps it's just the local fashion at the moment.
Meghans mirror is taking an interesting turn.
I suppose a video of him helping M strap on a fake bump and talking trash about fooling people would be bad...not that M would release that.
Or a recording of him talking trash about some in the RF. Trash about Will, meh. Who cares. Think it's accepted as close to fact as it can be Harry is jealous so would be a one day story unless it's trash about real events that were covered up in the past. Talking trash about TQ would be damaging. Lots of people like and respect her so they would be outraged. And for anti-royalists, it would be fodder. Or talking trash about the Cambridge kids...
Of course, compromising pics with clearly underage kids would be a big problem. But those would have to be 100% staged I'd think. I don't get the feeling he's a pedophile.
The biggest damage to the royals will be a compromising picture of Wills, not Harry. If she has that then all bets are off.
Agreed - Wills is the Royals' Golden Goose right now.
But he's always been cautious about his privacy and wised up to Meg pretty early, so I doubt he disclosed anything to her directly.
I think the big danger there would be something that William told Harry that Harry then told Meg.
Perhaps Meg has a drunken video of Harry saying, "I know Philip killed my Mummy, and William believes that too" or something along those lines.
Yeah, I don't get the feeling that Harry is a pedophile or that he is gay, although I know some people have suggested this.
It does seem like Markle dominates him, however, so some domination videos aren't out of the question. Possibly with dialogue.
(I should add that if these two enjoy that type of activity in their (enormous amount of) free time, that's up to them - they are adults, after all. I just think that images of a submissive Harry - bound, gagged, whatever - would be terrifically destructive to his once-macho public image.)
Joe seems to have a sense of humor about it all - he parodied the situation in the Jonas Brothers' video for their hit single "Sucker."
If Harry is unhappy now, he only has himself to blame
Prince Harry is said to be struggling to adapt to life in LA, but his complaints are falling on deaf ears, writes Celia Walden
Do you hear that sound? That wincingly high-pitched lament drifting across the Atlantic all the way from LA? It’s the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, sitting on the terrace of their Beverly Hills mansion, playing the world’s smallest violins.
In the three and a half months the pair have been holed up in Tyler Perry’s $18 million villa, all we’ve heard are plaintive noises. Back in April the Prince’s primatologist friend Dr Jane Goodall admitted that Harry was “finding life a bit challenging right now.” Within weeks a royal expert had backed this up, claiming Harry was “struggling” and “at a loss, without any structure in his life.” There were more reports of Princely distress in June: according to Andy Tillett and Dylan Howard, authors of Royals At War: The Inside Story of Harry and Meghan’s Shocking Split With the House of Windsor, Harry was “secretly tortured” over his dramatic move away from the Royals, and “overwhelmed with guilt.”
With the Prince feeling “particularly down on William’s birthday on June 21”, as an insider claimed, and his wife Meghan “having gone very quiet” amidst the fallout of her best friend, Jessica Mulroney’s ‘white privilege scandal’, the couple were last week “struggling to cope.” And things don’t seem to be looking any sunnier in Megxit Mansion this week. According to royal author, Tom Quinn, who has spoken to a number of sources close to the couple, the Prince isn’t just “struggling” to find his “role” in LA, but struggling to find himself. Having been “swept up in Meghan’s positive energy”, Harry now simply feels “lost.” “Because he is now experiencing in America what Meghan was experiencing here,” says Quinn.
Meghan, Harry: you could have had it all. You didn’t even have to ‘play the game’ – an expression I know you both hate. You could have invented your own game. You could have hot-footed it to LA the day after the wedding, built a horrifically vulgar Sussex-Crested McMansion in Beverly Hills at the British taxpayer’s expense, and spent every Sunday guzzling lobster ceviche with George and Amal on the Nobu Malibu patio - without losing an ounce of national support. I know: I was in the grounds of Windsor Castle on the day you got married. I saw the tears of excitement in women’s eyes as they prepared to welcome this independent-minded, biracial glamazonian into The Firm, felt the force of royal adoration as you both took your vows.
You wouldn’t have had to be constrained by the same traditions as William and Kate. You could have diluted your royal duties down to the odd so-low-profile-it-has-to-be-heartfelt event and the royal calendar biggies – the weddings and christenings, along with Royal Maundy, the Christmas Day service and Commonwealth Day – where you could have turned up and had your picture taken before going back to your own lives. In fact there were only three things you needed to do in order to live the easier life you craved: honour and respect the Queen and Commonwealth, however distantly, avoid hypocrisy like Covid-19, and always, always behave with grace.
What you couldn’t do was turn your back on the Commonwealth – and then insult it. You couldn’t publicly take the Queen to task over “branding issues” in a manner of such Kardashian-like crassness that just reading your ‘Sussex Royal’ rhetoric made the country want to bathe in hand-sanitizer. You couldn’t guzzle lobster ceviche (with George, Amal, Oprah or whoever else you felt validated your importance in a city that’s built on schmooze) whilst mourning white privilege, or drive around Beverly Hills in a gas-guzzling six-litre engine SUV, whilst lecturing us about environmentalism. Do you see how that works?
I suspect we know the answer to that question. But until Prince Harry works it out for himself, those increasingly tremulous minor notes will keep drifting across the pond – and falling on deaf ears.
That's what comes of having worked in agricultural colleges (now called something like `Colleges for the Land-Based Industries'). Cattle and sheep were at risk -every so often a student would be caught in flagrante.
The British public would be livid on behalf of the animal.
I thought the Telegraph piece copied above was rather weak, to be honest, but they are allowing comments, which is always interesting.
Samples:
"He’s an unlikeable privileged brat, it’s impossible to pity him. Whatever mess he makes, he’ll never suffer consequences."
"Harry and Megan's wedding is the only royal wedding i have ever celebrated. Had I known, I would nor have bothered."
"Frankly, the one thing which keeps coming into my mind on this is the thought that I hope William will be kind to his brother when this ends in tears."
"I have not finally, irretrievably given up on Harry yet, or even on Meghan, but I'm getting close to it. The criticism of the Commonwealth was clumsy, unfair and disrespectful to the Queen. I can't see how they'll ever get the respect and affection of the people back, but I don't say it's impossible, just very unlikely."
"You gotta hand it to them. They are trailblazers, in this case demonstrating that it is possible after all to be both woke and cancelled at the same time."
And this is The Telegraph. Behind the paywall, so paying subscribers, conservative people who generally like the Royals.
"Harry even a kamikaze pilot can change their minds. You can land safely back on this small island and pick up the pieces for yourself."
Nearly 300 comments, but someone at the Telegraph is deleting them quickly as new ones pour in.
If Meg releases pics or tapes of Harry, she will become an island. No matter what channels she uses, Harry will know it was her. So will the BRF. The aftermath of those tapes will be awful but won't the knives that come out both sides of the pond not be worse.
Amber Heard's future has been finished for a while. Look at what happened to Angie when she went after Golden Boy Brad.
`...video of Harry saying, "I know Philip killed my Mummy, and William believes that too" or something along those lines.'
Yes, I've wonder about what confidences he spilled to her and she immediately made a note of. Even if it was only about someone breaking wind at a diplomatically awkward moment.
I well remember Stephen Milligan and his bizarre departure from this life. He was MP for a constituency in Hampshire, where I was living at the time. Some years later, a Lib Dem MP for the neighbouring constituency met his political death, if not his actual one, as a result of a sordid sexual revelation.
Must have been something in the water...
Brutal. Or should I say, things are taking a turn for a rough and bumpy trajectory.
Seriously, the BRF could say they had no idea, we thought it was just drink and offered to pay for detox and were turned down.
S&M, threesomes (they could cluck and tsk,tsk while shaking their heads).
Is he spending down his inheritance? If he is, that may be the end of the road for their relationship when it runs out. Charles has been making the noises about less money already so that is the perfect excuse to hold on to saying no to them or rather her. (allowing people to hit bottom and all from AA).
Back in April 2019, HarryMarkle quoted some Blind Rumors about MM being involved in what was referred to as `pay for play/ pay to play' activity - but not the sort that Wikipedia covers in it article under that heading. See H-M April 23rd 2018.
I'd read similar on Jersey Deanne - even saw her alleged rate per hour mentioned. At one time, English law had a `price list' to assess where on the social scale, from Common prostitute up to Courtesan, a particular offender fell so that she might be described, and charged, accurately. I've even seen a specific rate alleged for MM - not bargain basement but not top class either, but I know nothing of these matters.
All unsubstantiated rumour, of course. Yet that wig didn't pay for itself.
The same article as in the Telegraph was in the DM yesterday and now has 6K comments:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8514497/Prince-Harry-feels-lost-LA-way-Meghan-Markle-did-UK.html
I trust that William took care of himself, Kate and the children. Ditto for the wily Camilla. She and Carol Middleton saw right through Markle the first time Rache did her PDA schtick with Haz, and probably before. And, I always have thought that CM made sure Kate understood to steer as clear as possible. If Harry simply said something untoward about his family to Markle, and Markle exposed it to press, the past six months of their combined shenanigans have laid bare for all to see (endure) Harry's general idiocy and mental health issues and Markle's sociopathic, bi-polar, narc personality traits. IMO, she is also a pathological liar and I believe most people would now agree. I think the BRF knew that the two of them together, out in the world, left to their own counsel, would destroy one another in a relatively short period of time. (BTW, where is the former Melinda Gates prized worker?)
Circling back to Depp, regardless of the self-inflicted tragedy that his former marriage to Heard appears to be, and the current embarrassment of the litigation circus, he has most likely inflicted a mortal wound on her HW career. As we all know, under the glitz, glam, razzmatazz and all around fabulousness of HW, lurks the cruel grind of business. That grind includes insurance companies. I have known some underwriters in my day and I can assure you that no matter how lovely Ms Heard physically is, her insurance premiums, if available, have skyrocketed. I think this is one of Markle's issues with her no-go HW career. Would anyone insure her at this point? I would not. Plus, she does not share Heard's beauty and I have read plenty about her lack of acting skills. I am personally proud of my achievement of never having watched or heard her act in any production. I intend to keep it that way.
Lastly, Nutty, if Harry told Megs that Granddad "offed" his Mom or something along those lines, I would, at this writing, think that is so sad, but would also think he (PP) might consider ......
As for Harry, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if M has a bank vault full of diary entries, photos and videos documenting her short but fruitful (*sarcasm) association with H and the royal family.
My hope is that the RF has the atom bomb and M has the squirt gun.
Something sexual involving bondage and discipline . . .Harry wearing a dog collar, Harry with some kind of ball gag, Harry on his hands and knees doing God knows what - there would simply be no recovering from that - particularly in the very conservative Commonwealth countries!
A former military man in that type of situation...
Particularly if this scenario involved another man (or men). Meg would be sure to keep *her* hands clean, in a manner of speaking . .she wouldn't be in these images because they'd be worthless for blackmail.
Harry wouldn't have to be complicit, willing, or even conscious for staged photos with him purporting to frolic with men (or minors, boys, girls) to be effective. I think Meg and MA sandbagged Haz with something along this very line at Invictus in Sept. 2017 to force through the hasty engagement and marriage. They threatened to release the pics/video if Haz didn't marry her. She will anyway, just watch.
I think it will be MM who will be immolated in the aftermath of any such revelations. No one will want to touch her. She might break the internet as she yearns to do. But it will break her life into pieces forever.
just foton, sorry if someone already mentioned this.
@Nutty kinda wish squirrels at oranges as now I just want to toss mine out into backyard . Lol that poor fella. My poor oranges :(
I have said all along that whatever MM and MA have on Harry, it’s got to be worse than just sex or drugs. We’ve already been treated to Harry loaded in hot tubs with girls and even one of him kissing a girl in his birthday suit, his hands cupped over the Royal jewels. Looked like a not overflowing handful, either. At this point, dope and willing legal girls would practically be wholesome.
It’s worse than Las Vegas. At the time, I thought it was kind of a tempest in a teapot. Prince Harry, on holiday in Sun City does some blow, gets blown. That’s practically a PSA for things to do on the Strip. Strip on the Strip, so banal. Irregular for a prince to be caught with his pants down so literally, but we all expected High jinks from Harry So it was hardly a big surprise.
Worse:
Sex with underage.
Rape
A playmate dying via sexual misadventure. Accidentally or no, still bad if Harry was on the scene.
A snuff film, made with or without Harry’s participation or consent.
Sex with animals.
Call blooded murder with intent.
Could Harry, would he do any of the above, or be so out of his mind on drugs and booze that he could be convinced he was responsible of any of these?
A tamer though still damaging collection of Harry saying vile though potentially true stuff about his family?
God only knows. I wonder if we ever will.
At that time Harry Markle seemed to detect the stench of conspiracy involving `Doris', MM & Markus.
I've seen a photo/video of H tweaking the nipple of a wheelchair athlete Ashley Coles; I found a report here (from 2016):
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/20/prince-harry-plays-with-athletes-nipples-on-live-tv/
According to the comments, it had already been reported in the mainstream news.
Could the blackmail stuff be Harry,ahem, carrying on with a bloke, then being disciplined for being a naughty boy by Mummy Meghan?
Could H have sexual guilt about these `tendencies' and then the penitential treatment from MM is a kind of absolution?
Just speculating.
With regard to the Las Vegas pics, they struck me as perhaps having homoerotic undertones/overtones but then I don't know what's usual male-bath behaviour after rugger.
I thought similar thoughts but you've been brave enough to put them into print! I didn't dare.
I enjoyed the image conjured up by
...`on holiday in Sun City does some blow, gets blown'
I bet the residents of Sun City, Arizona, think `Chance'd be a fine thing!'
Photos of Harry abusing the corgis..
“Footage” of him kicking the canines whilst
wearing Megs stilettos ðŸ‘
Answers the question why Megs shoes are so big,
they’re Harry’s
@Lucy "She is monster, I am going to go with one of her bra and panty sets."
I see we were thinking along the same lines. That said, I feel the British have a great deal of tolerance for camp. (Look up the terrible and embarrassing death of Conservative politician Stephen Milligan, if you dare)
I think some of the British public might find the bra and panty set amusing.
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LOL I think they would find it very amusing. Like a Benny Hill sketch!
And besides, they aren't Senior Royals any more so what would it matter? and doe anyone truly believe that she wouldn't leak such photos even if she got every financial settlement and title she wanted?
Just saying
I dont know why but call it my instincts based on over 15 years in the investigations field. Take in account what the public has already learnt about harry's previous behaviour - so this would have to be pretty damaging.
Another theory -does anyone else think he may be in a facility or away from her? The only pap shot we have seen of them together was that photo recently and their call which looked like they were in a office environment, and not in a home?
Or maybe i am reading too much into everything.
PREFACE
A wing and a prayer
There can be few birds that have been the subject of a whodunit – a national hue and cry, no less – but Circus cyaneus, or hen harrier by its common name, hit the headlines in 2007 when a pair of these elegant raptors were blasted out of the Norfolk sky, watched in horror by a Natural England warden and other reliable observers. And there was a twist in the tale, for the nature reserve adjoined the royal estate of Sandringham. Shooting together that day were Prince Harry, a friend, and a gamekeeper.
The warden notified the police; there ensued an investigation. No feathered bodies were recovered. No witnesses came forward. Nobody knew anything. The Guardian newspaper succinctly reported:
“Two hen harriers dead, one prince questioned, no charges.” [sic]
Why the hullaballoo? It is not as if Britain is unaccustomed to losing its wildlife: there are 44 million fewer birds since 1966, according to the RSPB. But certain endangered species are ‘red-listed’ – and the hen harrier is so classified. It clings by the tips of its talons to a precipice marked “extinction”. Under the watchful eyes of conservation organisations and their dedicated volunteers, only fifteen pairs breed in the whole of England.
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Of course I immediately thought of sharing it here. Then I thought, it might not even be true. I'll just check like a proper Nutty reader.
Oh, yes, it is true. Hen harriers fell from the sky that day and JH was somewhere in those woods. I looked at the news reports and then I spotted this headline: "When Prince Harry went down to the woods." I clicked, and read, and came upon these words in a blog entry dated October 24, 2017:
At the time of the Dersingham Bog incident Prince Harry was 23 years old – just a kid in many ways. Ten years later he seems, as far as one can tell from what emerges in the media, to have grown up a lot but still to have an interesting degree of independence and edginess that would probably make him an interesting person with whom to share an evening.
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Now, I don't know who shot the birds, Harry could be in the clear, innocent til proven guilty, even if many seem to be ... suspicious. But I'm really looking at "23 years old - just a kid in many ways." Yeah. just a kid. An interesting guy, that Prince Harry. And if you read the whole blog entry, it does not appear to be sarcastic or opposite speak. This guy really thinks of Harry that way.
We are told JH got a pass to misbehave. A twenty-three year old.....kid, in many ways. Harry was definitely given the benefit of the doubt. By the truckload. I don't think it helped him.
Maybe I should just finish Lady C.
Sources:
Beckham, Bruce. Murder on the Moor: NEW for 2020 – a compelling British crime mystery (Detective Inspector Skelgill Investigates Book 15) . Lucius. Kindle Edition.
https://markavery.info/2017/10/24/prince-harry-woods/
23 is hardly a kid. They always play games with their ages using them to duck accountability.
If he had been 15 or 16 I would have cut him a little slack. But at age 23 it's old enough to know better. Plus they had a games keeper with them who definitely knew better.
Just like her being over 40 and him being over 35 is almost middle-aged and yet they're referred to as a young couple, implying that they're inexperienced and don't know any better.
Which is a little bogus since she's on her third marriage. It can't be that hard to adjust to being married.
So will any and every billionaire she might be aiming for.
"The aftermath of those tapes will be awful but won't the knives that come out both sides of the pond not be worse."
I think then the gloves would definitely come off.
KC re: birds
"23 is hardly a kid. They always play games with their ages using them to duck accountability."
Exactly my point. Any excuse!
"If he had been 15 or 16 I would have cut him a little slack. But at age 23 it's old enough to know better. Plus they had a games keeper with them who definitely knew better.
"Just like her being over 40 and him being over 35 is almost middle-aged and yet they're referred to as a young couple, implying that they're inexperienced and don't know any better.
"Which is a little bogus since she's on her third marriage. It can't be that hard to adjust to being married."
Indeed. you have it right! They are NOT a young couple. What they are is a NEW couple. And not even that new! I've thought that her reference to a "young mother" in her court filings may just mean a "new mother" of any age. "
I am also sure that she is not taking the process of aging that gracefully, maybe even thinks of herself as 29 and holding (as hard as she can, as the country song went!) You know...like she's got those "legs that go on for miles" on her 5'4" frame. Wonder who told her that one.
Meghan may never get the difference between "classy" (Harry and Meghan) and "a class act" (William and Kate).
I venture a guess that there are much more damaging images of Megs at the BRF's disposal to release in response to anything Megs might have a mind to release to the public.
There is no media that will touch the Queen, or even Charles and especially the Princess of Wales, Camilla, aka Duchess of Cornwall. William is untouchable, as he suffered the most from his parents, and especially in the last weeks of her life, from Diana. William called his father from Fayed’s yacht, as he was humiliated by his mother and her callings paps, exposing the two boys to incredible Invasions of privacy, with his mother trying to get even with her last boyfriend, a two year relationship with a brilliant Pakistan-British heart surgeon, who broke up with Diana for many reasons. William protected Harry, and they left their mother to join their father and family in Scotland a week earlier than was called for - William was crying and yelling at his mother for her allowing paps to take his little brother Harry’s picture, and his, too. William never forgave his mother for her Panorama interview, and although she apologized in advance, William said how could she do it to Harry? Ruin his baby brother, and his own life, with her nasty, stupid and deeply regrettable interview.
William has looked after his little brother all his life. Their upbringings may be called not normal, but what is normal anyway? All I know is that William was in horrible grief after his last words to his mother were how can she let paps go after him and his brother Harry? What mother would allow this? William has protected Harry all Harry’s life, and now, again, he feels he has let Harry down, by not protecting him from It.
Interesting comments.
I believe that William has worked hard at trying to protect his brother but maybe, just maybe, he has decided that now is the time to lay that burden down. He has his own family to protect, care for, learn the ropes of ruling from HM, alongside of his father (while both are still around to help and answer questions).
I have been reading Lady C's book about the Queen Mother. Interesting commentary about how she (the QM) zipped, here, there and got the people she didn't want around to go.
From the Telegraph:
If Harry is unhappy now, he only has himself to blame
Prince Harry is said to be struggling to adapt to life in LA, but his complaints are falling on deaf ears, writes Celia Walden
Do you hear that sound?
If I remember correctly, Celia Warden is Piers Morgan's wife.
Woke up to see the Telegraph article on my monitor. Unsurprisingly, all the comments have vanished and the comment section is closed.
The previous thread went naturally to moderation after 7 days, but Jessica did do some good detective work there - check it out. It's one of the last comments in the thread.
There's a new story out today which I can't read from the EU but the headline says, "Police, family saying little about investigation of alleged hate crime."
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-family-saying-little-about-investigation-of-alleged-hate-crime/article_19d1508e-2916-54bf-9b86-bb662d9447b6.html
Nearly three weeks after an alleged racist attack on a biracial woman in Downtown Madison, police and the woman’s family are saying little to nothing about whether the authorities are any closer to identifying the perpetrators.
Althea Bernstein, 18, of Monona, told police she was stopped at a stoplight, possibly on West Gorham Street at State Street, at around 1 a.m. June 24 when she was approached by four white men, one of whom yelled a racial epithet.
One of the men allegedly sprayed her with lighter fluid through her open driver’s-side window and then threw a lit lighter or match at her, setting her face and neck on fire before she patted out the flames.
She described the men as looking like “frat boys” — two of whom were wearing “floral shirts” and blue jeans and two of whom were in all black and wearing masks. The man who allegedly sprayed her was wearing a “salmon-colored” floral shirt, she told police.
Asked for an update on the investigation, police spokesman Joel DeSpain on Monday pointed the Wisconsin State Journal to the online incident report in the case, which was last updated on June 30.
“I will continue to check if additional information can be posted,” DeSpain said.
cting Madison police chief Vic Wahl said in a statement Wednesday that the investigation “remains an open case and we are actively investigating with the assistance of the FBI.”
A spokeswoman for the Bernstein family, attorney Andrea Love Sumpter, said “law enforcement has been in regular communication” with her and the family.
“I have advised the family against making statements during an ongoing investigation, in order to avoid compromising the hard work of law enforcement officials,” she said in an email.
On Wednesday, she declined to answer questions about the investigation on behalf of the family.
The Los Angeles-based StandWithUs Center for Combating Antisemitism on June 30 announced it was offering a $5,000 reward for information in the case. It came on top of a $5,000 Crime Stoppers reward announced earlier.
Unlike in other unsolved cases, police have not released any images from surveillance cameras that might have recorded the attack or the assailants.
@KC
H&M would now be classed as “declasse”
I am going to drop a couple of comments now. Then, as it 1:30 in the morning here, I’m going to go to bed. The things I am going to mention are a bit too repulsive and nauseating to think about just before turning in. So I’ll just lay them in down here in the broadest brushstrokes and fill them in tomorrow with a barf bag at my side.
The first is regarding Meg’s sex tape, which was reportedly acquired by a German and posted on the internet perhaps a year ago. Certainly members of the BRF have their own copy, ready to use as a counter-punch should it become necessary though many have shouted it down as a fake. The guys at dataloung we’re discussing it an a link was provided so I bit the bullet and viewed it— twice.
It’s not for the squeamish. It certainly convinced me and I will go into my impressions of it tomorrow.
The second item is very convoluted. I will simply say for the moment that it involves Andrew, bastardy, Marcus Anderson, and Meg, naturally..
Tomorrow friends, for the filling in of these two sagas...
I can't believe they've gotten the FBI involved with that mess.
I certainly remember the Case of the Hen Harriers - strong circumstantial evidence as to the guilty party but apparently nothing that would stand up in court... Has she got a `trophy' photo of him with 2 dead hen harriers? That could sink him.
A gentle reminder - the age of consent in the UK is 16, not 18, not 21. We're never guilty of something that isn't against the law.
On the subject of humiliation, hasn't it been asserted that David was hooked on Wallis for that reason?
What struck me most forcibly, shocked me even, about Diana's Panorama interview was that she showed little or no concern for the boys. That alone was enough to damn her in my eyes.
To offer Charles up to public criticism, as willingly as she did, regardless of the effect on W & H, was unforgivable. In effect, she was also attacking them, insofar as they were `half' her and `half' Charles.
to think, she was widely regarded as a perfect mother. Pure image management.
As for H being in a facility, if he's not, he probably should be - but in the UK, not anywhere near M In view of what we've just learned about Diana and how William was so angry about her calling the paps and humiliating the boys, M's treatment of H can be seen as another part of her Diana act.
When I first heard of narcissists lacking an Authentic Self, needing instead to `construct' a Self by copying other people, I didn't know quite what to make of it. My goodness though, haven't we got an example here!
I think the FBI is involved so the local authorities don't have to deal with claims there was a cover-up. The FBI, rightly or wrongly, has more prestige than local investigators.
It's also significant that Devonere Johnson, the man whose arrest set off the Madison riots (he went into a restaurant with a baseball bat and threatened employees unless he was given large amounts of food and drink for the protesters) was charged on a Federal level.
This is strange, and I've seen both left wing and right wing commenters questioning it. He was charged under the Hobbs Act for threatening interstate commerce, which I don't really get.
My only guess is that either the Feds or the locals think the Madison municipal types don't have what it takes to prosecute here. FWIW Madison is extremely, extremely left wing area.
Anyway, a bit off topic, but it shows that Meg has once again involved herself in something she doesn't really understand.
Thanks for the warning. We haven't mentioned necrophilia yet have we? Or anything about human waste products? Torture?
Just clarify, as far as I know, the nazi thing was that H's idea of fancy dress for a `Colonials and Natives' (IIRC) party was a swastika armband, rather than flaunting an SS get up or quiff-and-toothbrush-moustache. My thought at the time was that he probably was thinking in terms of the Afrika Corps and Rommel, who posthumously benefited more from his military reputation than was in fact justified.
Even so, it was a huge misjudgement of which he seemed oblivious. He'd have been better to have given that party a miss and waited for a `vicars and tarts' do.
Most damaging would be dick pics that he takes and texts to questionable recipient (the queen?) a la Anthony weiner
A lot depends on timing. If her naughty pics come out while she is still married to Harry this can damage the royals. How are they looking when whispers turn to certainty about welcoming a sex worker into the family.
As for Harry...everybody knows he is a dimwit and plenty of damaging pics have already been made public. Nazi, naked, puking in the bushes. No surprise. People already know about his drug use.
The biggest damage to the royals will be a compromising picture of Wills, not Harry. If she has that then all bets are off.
July 13, 2020 at 10:42 PM
Ooh, Fairy, I totally agree with you. If she got her hands on pics of Wills in a bondage dungeon, in submissive gear, or in any kind of submissive position ... that's what would keep the BRF paying.
So will any and every billionaire she might be aiming for.
"The aftermath of those tapes will be awful but won't the knives that come out both sides of the pond not be worse."
I think then the gloves would definitely come off.
Agree with this. Megsy would be toast and no one would go near her with a barge pole. The royal family could play a far bigger game than her, with an even bigger playing field.
You both mentioned that as a possibly damaging photo for MeGain to use against Harry might be a three-way or bondage scenes. If any of you follow Ashley at Danja Zone, there is a very good chance that such a scenario was played out and witnessed by someone on the staff. Supposedly Harry was bound on a bed while M sat in a chair watching. MA entered the room and tossed a bucket of ice and water on him. H and MA fooled around and then M joined in. This was witnessed by a staffer somehow and reported to a journalist friend of Ashley’s.
Harry has reportedly begged to some of his friends about how ‘open-minded’ M is in the bedroom. We’ve wondered about the extent of the relationship between MA and M. We’ve been told that MA and Scooby Doo were lovers. Some of us have heard stories of a relationship between H and Adam Bidwell. Just today some old photos were re-released of H tweaking the nipple of a participant at the Invictus Games and of him suckling another young man at a party. Rumours of MA staying with H&M have circulated from last year at Christmas in Canada and more recently while they are squatting in Tyler Perry’s house. Sooooo, it’s not a stretch to imagine that if such a ménage a’trois ever took place, you can bet MM has photo and video proof. I can only hope that if such evidence does exist, M will keep,it to herself while Harry’s elderly grandparents are living.
@gabes
Harry wouldn't have much to fool around with
if Markus tossed ice cold water on him.
Shrivel me timbre..
Clapped in irons
All hands on dick
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if royalty of the past had engaged in similar pleasures - particularly the notorious sybarite Edward VII, Queen Victoria's son when he was Prince of Wales - but there were no camera phones in the day, and no social media.
I often wonder how current young royals will be able to grow up and enjoy their teenage years and young adulthood knowing they're only one click away from public humiliation. How are young George or Charlotte (or Norway's Ingrid, Denmark's Christian, or Belgium's Elisabeth, for that matter) ever going to be able to go to a party and have a few beers and some quick kisses with a willing partner?
Generally, of course, they will stay within a trusted circle of friends, but it only takes one greedy outsider invited to a party (or working at the party) to take a quick and potentially embarrassing photo.
There was a rumour, which, IIRC, we dismissed, that Markus might be Andy's unacknowledged bastard from his Canadian days.
I suspect Markus is a bastard anyway, birds of a feather y'know, even if his loving mom and pop were faithfully married to each other.
Andrew also - he snubbed a pal of mine and her husband years ago - she's still hasn't forgotten it, let alone forgiven it.
@WildBoar
Hee hee
Dick Henery
(I'm talking to you Wild Boar.)
https://youtu.be/YB5JCfoeGWU
Companion planting
The gillyflower and hoar
Oh yes, Edward VII, known as Tum Tum, with a special piece of furniture in the Parisian brothel, so his bay-window didn't impede his fun.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chabanais
This article mentions `oral sex' and `several participants'.
And this may make you smile:
https://www.thewhoresofyore.com/kates-journal/dirtybertie-the-love-chair-of-edward-vii
There's even a copper bath involved, which he had filled with champagne (not sure about the acid in the wine dissolving the copper - doesn't sound very healthy - I can't remember whether hydrogen would have been evolved - my chemistry was such a long time ago. An explosive situation?)
Then again, lack of photographic evidence didn't stop rumours linking royal misdeeds to Jack-the-Ripper! No mention of the Freemasons yet but I suppose it's only a matter of time.
See https://www.history.com/news/who-was-the-king-who-never-was
I can't help thinking that the best response of the Royals would be `(Yawn) We've seen it all before...')
Good to see you back.
Unfortunately I don't think Harry has any say, whatsoever,
regarding Archie or anything else.
Whatever photos/tapes Megs has I’m sure the RF
has much more damning evidence of Megs shenanigans.
You could be right about evidence of neglect of Archie. But I think that could damage M more in terms of public opinion. Women are always supposed to be responsible for their kids. Fathers, even royal fathers sold as connecting with children, not so much.
I guess some Anthony Weiner type photos of Harry with Archie would be damaging but given that M doesn't have a job much less a full-time job outside the home like Huma Abedin had in HRC's presidential campaign, I still think she'd get blamed too if Archie is mistreated or neglected at home...especially 1) if she's behind a camera recording abuse rather than protecting Archie and 2) she holds onto old incriminating photos vs taking immediate action to protect the child. (For those not familiar with former US congressman Weiner, he was constantly texting photos of his genitals to women...including one he took with his sleeping young son beside him. He did have on underwear but it didn't hide his, um, excitement.)
It's not as though most sensible people see M as connecting with the child. The intro of Archie with M touching his soft spot was cringe-inducing, the sweaty polo shots with infant Archie without a hat or sun protection made M look disturbed, the SA video was bad IMO, the Canada shots with a stiff dangling Archie doll with no visible diaper outline were insane (& so is the lawsuit about those), but the reading video was excruciating to watch IMO.
Whether he really said "dada" and if he did, whether it was aimed at Harry, we could clearly see he wasn't connecting with M. Sure, he might not have been in the mood for reading but they had the ability to redo the tape...it wasn't live and that's the best they could come up with?
Painting Harry as a bad father? I guess eventually that will have to happen if they divorce but I don't see it as her big "hold card."
@lizzie
Painting Harry as a bad father would mean producing evidence of a child.
Megs Marriage Wows
I take you Harry, for everything
For richer, not poorer
in thickness and wealth
To love and to cherish
me and myself
Ameg
"Painting Harry as a bad father would mean producing evidence of a child."
You'd think! And also in the case of a divorce & child support...but lack of an Archie cuts against Harry too.
But I'd think the issue might come up sooner in the lawsuit she filed on Archie's behalf. Can Archie's privacy really be invaded if there is no Archie? Or if there is an Archie, can it be invaded by photographing M with a doll?
Personally I do not believe that dangling thing she had precariously attached to her chest in the Canadian park was a real baby. But if it was, it's hard to believe that quiet unmoving child with his face squished into M's chest was the same baby we saw as an active toddler with a big body and an even bigger head in the reading video a little over 3 months later. I know kids have growth spurts but wow.
Animals are defenceless against humans. It takes a special kind of unhuman to use a firearm against a bird or any other animal.
Harry is a disgusting man. Period.
I do believe there is an Archie, I do not believe
Megs birthed him.
No doubt she will claim at some point she used a doll
to protect her child from the merciless press.
“They wanted photos, I felt pressured, victimised
so I gave in and paraded myself with said doll
in the hope they would give me the privacy I craved”
A photo of Meg, last thing at night.
Take off the wig, eyelashes, teeth,
padded bra, butt pads...
Ooh, stuff of nightmares!
"No doubt she will claim at some point she used a doll
to protect her child from the merciless press."
Maybe. But I'd think if that came out during the lawsuit for the press invading Archie's privacy for taking the pictures in Canada, she'd lose. Owe attorney fees (her own and her opponent's.) And potentially be sanctioned by the court. I'm not an attorney (and I'm in the US, the the UK) but I don't think a doll can be a plaintiff even if a woman thinks she has a good reason to prance around with one.
@lizzie
Megs has her own agenda, a law unto herself.
Fortunately she constantly comes unstuck.
Lack of detail, and ignorance of rules/laws.
A picture is worth a thousand words
those pictures say it all.
You've put your finger on an important point about the reading video - how it fails to project a favourable yet the opportunity to do it again is ignored.
There's a singular lack of awareness that it sends the wrong message to anyone with eyes in their head. The child's not interested, she gets snappy. Any parent trying to make a video to showing a caring and successful mother would want to call it a day and try again on another occasion.
We don't know when, or, frankly, where it was filmed. Or who he was looking at off-shot. Was it his true father, whoever he may be?
Could the explanation be that it was a hired baby and its father said `Enough!' and took the child away? Yet M's narcissism prevented her from seeing what how bad an image it projected of her?
The matter of the law suit over the `dead-frog Archie' photos has convinced me once and for all that she is stark, raving, bonkers. (I call it `dead frog' because the supposed `child' resembles how departed amphibians float in our pond)
It was bad enough that most of us interpreted what she had lashed to her was a doll and that she looked thrilled to bits to have her picture taken, despite the dissonance between that and her complaints of having been ambushed.
Add to that the alleged evidence that she called the paps herself, that she is determined to control her image, that they have told the Mail they don't want anything to do with them and yet...
The Mail was able to publish the photo, presumably they paid an appropriate amount to her agency for such a gem, despite her attempts at control.
Then to sue the Mail goes beyond the bounds of reason, to expect a judge to accept that this is a living child (who, incidentally,looks as if he's being abused) and to expect to win the case - as my old dad would have said -
`Well, that beats cockfighting!'
Perhaps she thinks the Archie, as a minor, would qualify for legal aid (any English legal eagles able to comment on that?) so it's no financial skin off her nose.
It looks like a time-wasting frivolous case, unless of course I've missed something - do dolls have legal rights?
“Shes so F...ing AMBITIOUS
Harry Wales claims Meghan Markle
acquired him for fame!
Coming soon, hot on the trial of Johnny Depp
I think the last paragraph on Althea Bernsteins case is the most interesting:
"Unlike in other unsolved cases, police have not released any images from surveillance cameras that might have recorded the attack or the assailants"
Because it doesn't exist??
Re. my typo
@Hikari -
I enjoyed the image conjured up by
...`on holiday in Sun City does some blow, gets blown'
I bet the residents of Sun City, Arizona, think `Chance'd be a fine thing!'
"Get the nitroglycerine ready, Mildred! . . I feel lucky tonight!"
I made an unintentional funny!
A really damaging video would be of Harry verbally mistreating a POC, but probably would do the most damage to Harry and Megs brand.
To be really damaging to the Royal Family you would have to catch one of them doing it.
A huge embarrassment for Wills (Def bondage or gay lover) would be worth major bucks to the Crown.
Re Dirty Bertie
There's even a copper bath involved, which he had filled with champagne . . .
I really don't credit Markle with having read any further back in British Royal history than Diana, but do you suppose this is where the infamous Frogmore 'copper bath' (that no one but no one has actually seen, nor do any pictures exist . . 'Member last year before Megxit, right after her Vogue issue that she was gonna host a documentary tour of Frogmore Cottage and 'invite people into her home'? There was online advertising, an actual network and all. Yet, hmm . . poof! Nuttin' came of that. One more reason why she had to run away to Canada)
'Copper Bathtub' may be a code within the BRF for a sexual scandal of such epic proportions it would blow the lid off everything, which is why it kept getting mentioned. Then suddenly it was one of the items she's suing the Daily Mail for, along with the orangerie and the floating yoga floor. No charges made against the hissy fit over imported avocadoes being false, though. My take on that was always--Now why in the *world* would any DM writer make up 'an orangerie' of all the items to include in Meg's fantasy home? Sure, she's an Angeleno, but they were living in Windsor (or were they . .?) not Paris.
Copied a quote from lipstick alley today
'She is already trying to drumb up attention to her speech and draw the focus by announcing she will be making a major announcement in her speech. What a loser to announce this when sharing the spotlight with other speakers'
This kind of stuff is not my personal cuppa; I find it pretty distasteful, but what consenting adults choose to do in their boudoir is no concern of mine as long as they aren't hurting anybody else. has made BDSM almost mainstream. If Meg & Harry enjoy that kind of sport in the bedroom . . well, they're married. We all saw it happen. (I guess.) If damning pictures/video exist of Harry participating in bondage orgies with men/women/inanimate objects, it would be compromising, sure, but seeing as he's fallen so far all ready, such wouldn't truly shock anyone where he's concerned. He is not important constitutionally, and such photos, or ones with a needle in his arm would only underscore how far he's fallen. I don't think he's a redeemable cause at this point.
A sex party like that wouldn't be *illegal* . . depending on the ages of the participants, it might be, but I'm more interested in what might have happened during such activity that would be the silver bullet which MM and MA might hold over Harry. Any number of things might have gone wrong during a sex game that was entirely accidental. Or maybe not an accident. I used to credit Hazza with being a basically good-hearted person, just a bit of a Peter Pan who enjoyed a good time. The Harry we've met these last couple of years has surrounded himself with such bad company, I feel like he's found his true level, and we were all misled. *This* cold, bitter, angry, Beta narc Harry might have done something unspeakable to a vulnerable person he regarded as lesser than his exalted self. We are into Andrew territory now, if not worse.
Oh, to know what the security services know!!! I'm sure those files are thick.
Oops, my computer ate Fifty Shades of Grey . . not sure what happened.
I hope your computer survives the experience! lol
On topic,
I spotted an apt new title for Harry in comment on a random Express article earlier:
His Ranting Hypocrisy
As it can be adapted for Meghan as well, perhaps instead of stripping the HRH's completely, HMTQ could just change the wording :OP
On MM's penchant for taking photographs, BG ran an item a few weeks ago which said the rift between her and Kate began in the fall of 2016, when JH brought her to the Cambridge's apartment in KP to introduce her. The visit was going well and MM was on her best behavior until she went to make a call in another room. One of the Cambridge children followed her (it had to be George, who was 3 at the time) and Kate went looking for him, only to find MM taking pictures of him on her phone. Kate was livid and never trusted her after that.
Here we have the context for the beginning of the feud with William & for the persistent story that she was escorted from KP and sent back to the airport for taking pictures in private areas of the Palace. I believe it. That would also coincide with the reported (by Harry Markle on her blog) timeline of Haz breaking off this LDR booty call arrangement some time before New Year 2017, some nine months before the "reunion" at Invictus in Toronto, where Harry was ambushed by the dastardly trio of MM, Marcus Anderson and Doria. Marcus had secured them tickets somehow; they were decidedly not guests of JHFKAP, who was hosting Mrs. Trump and sitting next to her. It's definitely not a happy face Haz wears as he spies his former inamorata across the room. If I had to caption it, it would be, "Oh ... S#I%!"
I believe that for a brief while, Harry had seen sense, perhaps after a row with William, to end the affair. The Inskip wedding in April was another cause of her gatecrashing where she was neither expected nor wanted. She'd been invited months prior as Harry's 'plus-one', but any normal, sane person would understand that she was no longer Harry's 'plus-one' if they'd broken up four months prior. It did not look like a happy visit at all, and she was ostracized by all his friends.
So imagine being William or Catherine and finding out that not only is Harry seeing 'that woman' again--the one kicked out for photographing the child without permission--but they are *engaged* and he's bringing her to Christmas! Catherine has been under such visible strain in the company of Markle. She has bloomed since that toxic irritant is out of her face on the daily. Whatever else happens with Markle, she will never be back in the U.K. to torment Catherine or stalk her children. At least I can't conceive of any scenario in which she would be tolerated back in the UK. Harry has probably also signed his permanent banishment papers. If he gets lucky, perhaps Granny or Dad will let him live somewhere in the Commonwealth with Markle is done with him.
How are H&M getting access to dates for the rest of the RF?
@Puds, that reminds of the old gag `Her teeth are like stars - they come out at night.'
@Hikari - I'm terribly conventional, and have no direct experience of what I speak, but am sure that their antics are `different, so very different, from the home life of our dear Queen.'
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_understatement
- it explains a lot about the Brits, including a Korean War tragedy for the Glorious Glosters as a result of this habit being understood.
@Hikari - I'm terribly conventional, and have no direct experience of what I speak, but am sure that their antics are `different, so very different, from the home life of our dear Queen.'
In her 2018 book, "The Queen's Marriage", recently purchased by me, she discusses the reaction to the Elizabeth-Philip match. Only Uncle Dickie was delighted with the match. Philip was seen as a fortune hunter. (The Crown has Uncle David calling him, derisively, "The Foundling". ER is "Shirley Temple" and Queen Mum is "Cookie".) Despite being extremely different in many ways, the Queen and her consort share some important traits in common. Philip is the more outwardly dominant personality, but LCC describes ER's singular way of bending everyone to her will by refusing to do anything except in her own time. She absolutely will not be hurried. She will not be cajoled, and she will not give up a decision once she has decided upon it. (The speech after Diana's death being perhaps the one notable exception of her reign). Once she'd set her cap for Philip at the age of 13, there was no discussion to be had in her mind, and she got her way in the end. The other trait they share, according to LCC is 'they are both highly sexual people'. The Queen must be like the proverbial volcano, simmering under the surface. They did have four children, after all. Less than half of Victoria and Albert's number, but still double the amount any of their children produced. The Tindalls and the Cambridges have three each.
HMTQ as a volcano in the sack is at odds with her stoic, untouchable Elizabeth Regina public image . . but Philip knows the real her. I'm sure their volcanic activity was nevertheless on the more conventional side than anything the Harkles have got up to. Just thinking about Harry and Meg makes me want to take a shower.
I still await delivery of her latest opus. After that, I want to read her book on the Queen Mother. I gather that LCC is not a QM fan.
HMTQ moving at her pace, learned that from her mother.
HMTQ and PM were not expected to come close to the throne, the QM was raised by a mother who considered education from books to be non-essential, learning how to be a lady so the daughters could marry well was way more important so that HMTQ got as much as she did was more do to others working around the QM to get that done.
There are some parts I don't get (a lot going on at the house so my comprehension is diminished) but I also think that if I had grown up looking at photos of this person or that person, reading about them, it would be easier on me as I could have an instant picture of them.
There are some really funny parallels between the QM and MM in the how they dressed but some differences. QM was loved as she was clearly making an effort to be approachable (something not done by the royalty in that time) so even though she was dowdy, she was lovable for her smiling (and not stopping when she was tired or bored).
Cecil Beaton described her as "the Steel Marshmallow" as she "was a marshmallow built on a welding machine".
on pages 226 to 227, she talks about how two people were describing the QM as "...so sweet" and how it was unclear if it was "...praise or code..." and then goes on to talk about how it was "acceptable to over-egg the pudding" and how she does this in her own private life as, she says, no downside and yet you have sent a message. It was nice to read that part where the comments on the new book are you have to pay attention to what she isn't saying.
quote originally was underscored not italic this didn't seem to allow underscore
Re MM's visit to the Cambridges at KP:
Harry brought her to the Cambridges' apartment in KP to introduce her. The visit was going well and MM was on her best behavior until she went to make a call in another room.
Unless it's a typo, she went to make a call, not take a call. Wasn't that very rude? Even if her mobile rang, she could have rejected the call but to make a call during a visit - first visit, I think - to Kate & William was the height of bad manners. What was so urgent, except that was just an excuse to take photos?
Also, could they maybe find someone who could frame them a bit better?
https://twitter.com/byQueenVic/status/1283074685928972291?s=20
1) Either taking or making a phone call during her first visit to W&K would be very bad manners, and we have witnessed her have very bad manners.
2) If she decided to make a phone call, it might have been a power play, important to someone with her pathology: "I'm so busy and important, I have to make this phone call right now" is what she would be telegraphing.
,I'm always suspect of people who can pick and choose their sexual preference based on the net worth of their mark. Between her two multi-millionaire meal tickets, Amber Heard was exclusively with women. I don't want a lecture on gender fluidity and bi-sexuality. Amber Heard is a lesbian who will sleep with men for money. She just another terrible actress who uses her sexuality to gold dig. Speaking of Meghan Markle, I don't think her blackmail is a match for what is known about her and she has lots of enemies. Prince Charles can't afford the ransom she likely wants - because tens of millions are not gonna do it. But if she releases photos of Harry drugged out or drunk, he'll be vindicated as a man with mental issues abused my a scheming shrew. That's the only way he makes a comeback. However, I'm afraid Meghan knows her next best role is tragic widow gives birth to the late Prince Harry's daughter named Diana. Would not put it past her.
If there was an agree button I would push it. So very nutrient dense from SeaBee and thanks
From what we know of Megs Gruesome character..... For sure (like Amber) she has been taking tons of photos, video and audio ever since she launched her dismal self into the British Royal Family/ This is a no brainer.
Harry you idiot! You have placed a ticking time bomb into your family. Idiot!
“MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry’s wedding conductor, Karen Gibson, has revealed how the royal couple never got to approve the final version of their rendition of the classic Stand By Me.
Ms Gibson from the Kingdom Choir said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were very demanding about what they wanted. And even a visit to Kensington Palace could not make up their mind.
The MasterChef contestant said: “They wanted our version of Stand By Me to be like Tracy Chapman’s version of Fast Car in that they wanted it really stripped down and pared back and they wanted it to have less beat.
"But how can any song have less of a beat? Anyway we couldn’t get it right and we did version upon version.
"I think the final version was the 12th version and they didn’t actually get to listen to it before the RoyalWedding itself.
"We took so long getting it right that we ran out of time.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1308416/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding-choir-stand-by-me
Puds has left a new comment on the post "Sigh. Meghan and Harry talk politics again":
I think Class and Classy have two different associations. To have class can be an inner quality that shines out, acting within boundaries with elegance. To be classy implies a wannabe, putting on the finery but not able to carry it off, attempting to be someone they are not, overdoing the bling. To be called classy can be a slur
THIS. In the US we have the expression "a class act" which is kind of slang but someone who has class as Puds defines it her. (People with class do not say it, it is said about them by less sophisticated people or maybe by their peers who are consciously using slang).
Next, she'll be mother Teresa.
New look, super long, super straight hair, and looking more youthful.
I do not believe that they ever ordered a copper bath; House and Garden published an article claiming that they were going to employ Vicky Charles described as the mastermind of the Soho House look to renovate Frogmore Cottage and claimed that outdoor copper tubs were part of the Soho Farmhouse look. The Clooneys and the Beckhams employed Ms Charles to design some of their properties
The straighter her (kinky) hair the more she will declaim about anti-racism. This dynamic was also going in the South Africa tour where they used.abused Desmond Tutu and family. The real blacks in South Africa are going to look up to Megs the less than half breed? More like a quarter breed. A fake black woman/
2) If she decided to make a phone call, it might have been a power play, important to someone with her pathology: "I'm so busy and important, I have to make this phone call right now" is what she would be telegraphing.
@Cookie Shark and Maneki:
As a flaming narcissist Meghan is all about power and control. It hit me in May as the Harkles had their second wedding anniversary, that Meghan inviting a church filled with Hollywood elites she didn’t even know was a power play sorts. By marrying Harry, she could MAKE these A-listers pay attention to her.
It was basically a case of “You wouldn’t pay attention to me then, but I can make you pay attention to me now.”
Eighteen months earlier, most of the people at the chapel didn’t know her from Adam’s house cat and the only meeting they would have taken with her would be if they needed to hire someone to grill hamburgers at their next pool party.
The wedding was an occasion for Meghan to exert power and control. Manipulating Charles to walk her up the aisle was also power and control.
She is a walking advert for plastic surgery and skin manipulations.
All her outings are about her looks, not what she has to say, which is not much.
Sad she thinks so little of young people's perception and intelligence.
I was reading the tabloids at the time and that was a purchased costume (and you are right, it is more like Afrika Corps). They quoted the guy at the costume shop as saying William$ and Harry came in together, and William encouraged Harry to do the nazi costume,while he went with a lion costume. Never seen pics of that.
I recall in her book Diana in Private in the 90's Lady C said much the same of Charles. She said it was a trait inherited from the Hanoverian side of the family.
I had a thought: If we could find the address to Tyler Perry's mansion we could send Harry some colorful shirts. LOL!
GirlsUp should have done some research on her before inviting her to speak. I'm sure SS arranged it and pushed for it.
As an American, it makes me livid to see them in action. I'm sure those of you who are British must be furious.
Have a good day!
I recall in her book Diana in Private in the 90's Lady C said much the same of Charles. She said it was a trait inherited from the Hanoverian side of the family.
Well, we Germans, we are a lusty lot. :) Despite my avatar, my ancestry is German-Irish. Mostly German. We are lusty, but also conventional . . so volcanic activity in the marital bed that lasts for a goodly while is devoutly to be wished.
I can believe this about Charles. Poor lamb had to spend most of his childhood and adolescence with his father thinking (and probably saying aloud, like as not) that he was a nancy. I think the whole Bonnie Prince Charlie Playboy Prince period was to prove his father categorically wrong on that score. Chas had more girlfriends than there are named storms in a hurricane season there for a while in the 1970s. Turned into a sportsman, too, after being a tubby youth. He hated Goundonstoun, but it did him a favor in the long run by getting him fit.
Diana slinged plenty of mud about her husband's capabilities, but she never denigrated the physical side of their relationship. That's probably why his dalliance with Camilla hurt more and had to be destroyed; if things had been bad in the bedroom, one would suppose that it'd have been a relief for Camilla to be the beneficiary of his amorous attentions.
Chas had two birds on the go, that hound dog. Whether PP admits it or not, his eldest boy IS like him in some salient ways. Charles is also like Mummy in other salient ways. Both sides of the family are sexual beings so there we are.
She didn't much care for the outcome, 9 children, but I have read that emotionally she was more stable when pregnant.
As for her relationship with John Brown, who knows what went on? There has been a suggestion that she regarded him as a reincarnation of Albert - and didn't they spend the night alone together in Highland bothy?
The public image, however, as one of (absolut erectitude - sorry, my fingers are forever transposing letters and spaces but I'll leave it!) I meant `absolute rectitude' of course). Certainly by comparison with Cleopatra.
While Catherine St. Laurent, Mrs. Gates Ex-Chief of Staff, has moved over to the Sussex 'Foundation' or whatever they are trying to call it nowadays, she is also from Canada, I highly doubt she met them through the Gates themselves. I'm sure Meghan assumed they could get a grant FROM the Gates Foundation, via Catherine's connections.
Bill and Melinda aren't known to support initiatives in that way (public profile people) as they are superstars in that world themselves. Not that I know of, at least. They also are strict with their cash within their family.
If Meghan was a true philanthropist who even understood and had a great track record for good causes in the UK, sure, I think they'd be inclined to grant money for work in Africa (their main focus I believe), but she didn't do that and has no reputation of appropriating funds in a productive way.
Re MM's hair, I've never seen it so straight. Isn't that 'cultural appropriation'? Works both ways...
I also don't think I'm alone in reaching my "I'm over the Harkles" point.
So having said that, short of JCMH FKAP being photographed murdering someone, I don't think anyone would care. Neither would we be shocked to see any photo of MM looking slutty, sexually easy, or on her knees in front of some strange man with his zipper undone.
These two have shown us all, repeatedly, that they have no shame.
They have repeatedly badmouthed the BRF and, by extension, HMTQ.
They've had public tantrums.
They've lied. ("We want privacy!" to "Here, look at my video where I'm lecturing school age children about racial injustice!"
They've made a point of separating themselves from the BRF, so the BRF can justifiably say "They aren't one of us anymore" regardless of when JCMH FKAP was filmed snorting drugs from a stripper's belly button (for example). We all know he's been troubled and we all know he now brings this trouble onto himself. The BRF tried to help and he walked away from them. So, Game Over.
The Harkles have passed their "sell by" date and are completely irrelevant. It's alternatively humorous and tragic to see them rush after the cause du jour to garner some sort of attention for themselves.
They have nothing to add to any conversation.
So bring on the pictures, of either of them. I don't think anyone will particularly care.
Re Bill and Melinda Gates: “ They also are strict with their cash within their family. ”
Not so much, really. Maybe relative to their having billions of dollars, but they did reportedly splash out around $20 million on two properties for their daughter—an apartment in NYC and a horse farm outside the city—who is in medical school.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1283115542132355072
I simply find Megsy sinister now and she looks slightly insane.
Her hair extensions and lip fillers combined with a manic look in her eyes turn her into a character from the Insidious.
She has crossed the line
Blah Blah Blah...executing and managing communications strategies and campaigns to drive perception change and build brand reputation.
I am currently acting as Chief of Staff to The Duke and Duchess of Sussex as well as Executive Director of their non-profit organization. Most recently, I was acting as Director, Brand and Special Initiatives at Pivotal Ventures where I oversaw the organization's brand and positioning strategy and worked in partnership with the senior leadership team to identify, define, and prioritize critical new initiatives necessary to advance the brand strategy and core capabilities of Pivotal Ventures.
From 2012 to 2019, I was responsible for Melinda Gates’ profile and communications activities at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and subsequently at Pivotal Ventures. In that capacity I was responsible for managing strategy development, communications planning, and implementation in partnership with program teams and advocacy colleagues. I maintained broad oversight of Melinda’s external and internal communications engagements and was responsible for advising on her media interactions, speaking platforms, and network-building within the global community of her peers and opinion shapers.
Prior to the foundation, I was based in London and Brussels. During my time in London I worked at HSBC and Vero Communications, a strategic communications consultancy specialized in the business of sport.
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"I am currently acting as Chief of Staff to The Duke and Duchess of Sussex as well as Executive Director of their non-profit organization. "
Just a couple months ago, she was hired solely as their Exec Director of their still not named non-profit.
Apparently, that is still, on hold. Now she is their Chief of Staff supposedly meant to manage their "Brand" turnaround and communications.
Good luck to her. LOL.
is someone's career on the decline.
Prior to the start, we looked at the speaker list and every speaker had a title related to something they did. Hillary, Sheryl Sandberg, Priyanka (UN Ambassador) as well as many women who had started businesses or charities. In fact, the teen leaders themselves had all done something significant for the girls in their communities. Meghan was listed as Duchess of Sussex - not much of an accomplishment in the female empowerment arena!
When she was introduced by the teen hosts, they said she had been involved with "women's equality issues her whole life". Yes, whatever - noticeably missing was the name of any specific organization with whom she was involved!
M started her speech by saying she had spoken at the graduation of her alma mater. I don't recall if we ever got the scoop on whether she was actually scheduled to speak or just sent the vid to Essence to attract attention, but this story may take on a life of its own, like the soap commercial, if not refuted.
DM has pretty well covered what she talked about. Notably, at the end of her speech she said "I and my husband and Archie are cheering you on". I guess the purpose in saying that was to imply that she is raising TWO "woke males", but NONE of the other speakers mentioned their husbands or kids. It was a weird thing to add on to a female gender equality speech.
My daughter noticed her hair right away and said it didn't look very good. She wondered why she doesn't wear it shorter like the actress who played her in one of the Harry and Meghan movies because that would look much better!
^^^ That trajectory...Gates.. to a venture firm...to Meghan...as a communications specialist (she is not a brand specialist- I would know, I'm married to a CMO)
is someone's career on the decline.
I would say YES. Working for MM is NOT something that I would put on my resume. I would hide it.
What IS it about Hollywood and deformed-looking duck lips? It is NOT an attractive look.
I figured she had no 'edge'. She's not hot enough to get pop attention, and I guess she realized that too. The style she is going for ages her, though. She also needs to stop moving her arms and hands so much.
I haven't commented in awhile because I'm over the Harkles and actually don't care a whit about them anymore. But I still check in here to see the most recent blog topic and scan quickly to see what people are saying.
I also don't think I'm alone in reaching my "I'm over the Harkles" point.
Nah, I'm right there with you, Girl. There's *nothing* about them in the news here; nobody cares about either of them. NOBODY. It must be hard for them with California closing down again. No restaurant sightings, no glamorous outings. *sniff sniff* Oh, well.
I don't know of anyone who was successful in a career on the speaking circuit who had nothing to say.
What does this woman say of any substance? That her and Harry are above everyone and support them from their castle they rejected?
It's some sore of bizarre 'we are up here', and 'you are down there', and one day you can reach 'my heights' speech. All the time.
I don't get it.
She literally stole Harry's job of giving speeches due to being royal, from him.
And further, if the Queen is watching how this plays out too see if other Royals. can just copy them. Would they let Beatrice and Eugiene and everyone else trade on their Princess, Duke and Duchess' status, just to make a quick buck giving speeches? Is there a precedent for this? Is the RF going to let them trade on their Royal name forever? Wouldn't that get out of hand and off 'RF' brand?
Since Andrew is no longer 'RF' status, can he too now give paid speeches? In questionable countries?
There are many questions that affect the RF structure. Charles talks about streamlining the family to maintain power. How can they maintain that, if the fringe royals go rogue like this?
And, further, I thought their agreement was to not use their Titles for gain. Which is what she is doing....
So what on earth is going on?
In her speech that you quoted, MM said "I and my husband and Archie" etc. Note how she put 'I' first instead of "My husband, Archie and I". Typical, putting herself first.
Continuing with the two tales I began late last night but had to abandon lest I lie awake retching all night: The first regarding Meg's sex tape; the second a curious tale of bastardy coming full circle from Canada to Britain/
DataLounge provided a link for the sex tape and there was an enormous amount of discussion about is it Markle or a look-a-lot-like, so I finally decided that I'm a big girl, not easily shocked anymore, and clicked on it. It's a fairly basic, long, very graphic indeed run-of-the-mill hetero banal sex tape. The male, whose face I don't recall, is extremely well-endowed, and there were long tedious shots of the ins and outs of such goings-on just as you'd imagine. Nothing at all left to the imagination.
The female, however, was interesting to me for a couple of reason. First, she looks exactly like Meghan (the young version), complete with mole on the upper lip. Most of the time, when her face is to the camera and they are doing it doggy-style, as they say, one would swear it is she. The only thing different about her is the enormous, pendulous breasts. But I've read that she had implants for her suitcase girl gigs, subsequently removed. So, it's possible.
Here's what convinced me it is Markle indeed. When the actress's face is to the camera (most of the time), she's really overacting. She's moaning and purring and laying it on very thick. But her eyes are following the director, or whoever is behind the camera, as if for directions. They must have gone through a truckload of KY Jelly because I did not believe for one minute that this actress is enjoying it; rather wishing it would be over so she could collect her money.
Also, she wears socks! Yes, foot coverings. The only part of her anatomy that is unseen. Must have been sensitive about the appearance of her feet!
Enough said. This woman cannot act her way out of a paper bag. She had the plaintive face at times that Ma Markle exhibits in her Archie birthday video reading, when Archie, whoever that poor child is, repeatedly flings the damn book on the floor and Meg looks plaintively at the camera for a moment, as if to say, "HELP! When will this be over?"
I'll save the Andrew saga for a bit later, I think. Rushing off for a quick shower. Later, Nutties
Hard to mix and mingle at the Billionaires Ball during a pandemic
She can name her autobiography "Tepid Tolerance in the Time of Covid-19"
Socks!!!!!! It had to be her!
I am laughing so hard
Speaking to FEMAIL, Judi said: 'This was a very redesigned and rebranded Meghan, with her body language suggesting she has now fully emerged from the royal experience and is back on track and on form as a confident and inspirational speaker in her own right.
'Meghan’s gesticulation was more ‘guru’ than Hollywood actress and wife of a prince.
'The way her cheeks rounded in a calm smile at the start showed happy confidence to be there addressing her young audience and throughout her speech she avoided showboating or over-congruence, both of which are trait-traps that less experienced and less adept speakers often fall into, using over-exaggeration to try to hammer their messages home.
'Instead Meghan spoke with a calm and warm tone, using long blinks and a raised index finger to suggest wisdom and empathy. Her finger pinch gesture flagged up precise thought and a desire to give advice from a place of experience and when she pulled her hands into fists she showed a desire to create change.'
Barf!
That is what would make her truly go away.
OMG! Thank you for taking one for the team.
The SOCKS!!! They all but give it away!! XD
Off topic, but very funny (and short) from Kyle Dunnigan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1283115542132355072
July 14, 2020 at 11:20 PM
Thanks for this, quite a giggle. And if you keep scrolling down, you will see MM... channeling 70's Cher? Long straight black hair. Bright blue dress, which actually looks like a good fit. It's a pic from her vid to Girls Up? Tourre Bakahal tweeted it and his 140 characters went like this:
"Would love to see the Markles challenged with precise questions after vacuous outpourings like this. Both preach in exactly the same style - no facts, no reality, just waffle. They come across as manipulative hypocrites who are desperate for adoration."
Oh, I'm sure they'd muddle through somehow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1283115542132355072
Margery, extra thanks for this! I scrolled down after MM pic and found some really hilarious stuff, some Sussex, some not, because the world does not really revolve around them and other things are funny too!
This is why i don't often look at Twitter or Pinterest, they are TIME EATERS!
ok, signing off for the evening.
Unless of course they aren’t really at Tyler Perry’s crib. I’m really getting
more of a La Quinta vibe.
i’ve never seen MM act and have rarely seen her in video so i cant comment on the acting and mannerisms and if they are MM’s.
but i didn’t notice the girl was wearing socks... thats very strange for a sex tape isnt it? and MM seems to be self conscious of her feet.... maybe it is her?
Royals are not meant to represent their designation during speeches not authorized by the RF, no?
I wonder what William thinks of all of this.
https://people.com/royals/princess-beatrice-glamorous-photo-magazine/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
I think both her father and the RF have her pegged. Her father is a nuisance and interfered with the image that needed to be cultivated and sold in the UK. And there are rumors that the RF have witnessed her bad behavior. She is not able to tell people "Look, I just don't like my Dad that much anymore," so situations must be manufactured where she appears to be the victim of her father and the RF.
I think she harbors intense rage both towards her father and the RF, despite the lavish lifestyle they provided for her. Is it because neither can be love bombed or pushed aside? They know her true nature, and they can't be manipulated. I think this was why members of the RF have been trashed like no other in the press since she came on the scene.
I just saw a still photo of Megatron, against the poop coloured wall and she is wearing a blue dress. Crikey, she looks insane. Seriously, her eyes and expression
I thought she looked like a vampire.
Was MeMe insinuating girls should challenge THESE authority figures??????
I thought she looked like a vampire.
@Golden Retriever:
Ironic you mentioned Meghan looking like a vampire. She most certainly looks like one, and emotionally, she IS one. Just take a look at any of the msny photos of Harry, especially the recent ones since Meghan masterfully succeeded in achieving the total isolation of Harry. He is now completely psychologically and emotionally dependent on Meghan and fully under her control.
In psychology circles, people with lower-level narcissism all the way up to people like Meghan who likely have diagnosable profound narcissistic personality disorder are often described as being emotional vampires, especially in their relationships with romantic partners, spouses, and their families.
For more info, here are some good non-clinical articles that describe how narcissists are emotional vampires in relationships with others. You’ll see Meghan and Harry throughout these articles. Sorry these aren’t linked. Not sure how to create a link on nutty’s blog, but you can copy and paste these.
Dr. Judith Orloff › the-emotional-va...The Emotional Vampire Survival Guide - Judith Orloff MD
Psychology Today › blog › the-...The Vampire's Bite: Victims of Narcissists Speak Out | Psychology Today
Thought Catalog › ... › EmpathsWeb results7 Ways Emotional Vampires Drain Empaths And Highly Sensitive People | Thought Catalog
What jarred me the most, was at the end when she said “I, my husband, and Archie.’ First off, “my husband?!” It’s fucking Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, it was then JKMH and further “h”, now he’s nondescript no name “husband”. For someone who doesn’t particularly take to the term husband, having had a few now, meaning it’s nothing actual special to her, I was aghast and her description of her family in that way.
I thought it was incredibly rude and disrespectful. Why did she say Archie, and not ‘our son’. The person she is suing Splash over privacy invasion? I, my husband and son. Or I and my family. Or just I.
I’m really worried about Harry. I know we joke and talk about how horrid he is, how he’s in on it, how he needs to get it together, but to watch her reduce him publicly to ‘placeholder_husband” even though he is the reason she is able to speak, is utterly shocking.
I really don’t think Harry is treated very well at all by her. I think she feels she holds all the power and is holding everything over him while trying to divorce and take it. I am very worried. She knows Harry isn’t in her future.
And she’s speaking on behalf of that damn child who has yet to form an identity himself, once again not protecting him.
I am over this woman.
There are mysteries that need solving, but as far as I’m concerned Harry needs to GTFO of there ASAP.
Everyone mentioned from that video previously that they didn’t look like they engaged well with one another. And I think this shows that she thinks she’d actually be better off without a pesky ‘husband’ in the way.
I do feel bad for Harry today. He needs to go home.
Can't she find some art work to merch or potted plant? The Wall now appears to have some sheen added to it but it is just that wall. So cold, sterile and uninviting and her microphone was dreadful!!!!!
She talked way too long and wow you really can tell when someone doesnt give a sh*t to which they speak. Try as she did to be engaging, but falls like lead balloon when there is zero heart or soul behind the words
I think it may not have been so bad had she cut it to 3 or 4 minutes. As it is it was 8 minutes of filler. On and on about NOTHING. It got to the point I was feeling like there were technical difficulties and she had to kill time before real speaker could connect
It was so prolonged, awkward and cringey that around 6 minutes she could have set off distant goo goo gah gah noise to imply Archie was off the distance, would have been cute 4 second diatribe diversion. She may have tried but that mic was garbage
I will say it was sly of her at the end to mention Harry then look off to the side like he was there. It came off ok to me even if he was just an afterthought ,or more than likely at other end of the house
She needs to find something she is passionate about to even be remotely successful . This is not it
@sharon LOL about the socks! Really makes me think it is her. I checked it out very long time ago. Looked like her but her boobs looked too big or something. I wasnt convinced but the socks may tip me over the edge LOL!
@Jessica I searched around for "effervescent media" I saw nothing either but there is such a thing as "effervescent media works" which seems to be wedding planner or photographer smh
I’d love to read a positive story about a famous female, but alas, I don’t see any on the horizon. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
I will read them tomorrow (it’s nearing 2 am here).
Vampire, indeed.
@Hikari, that is a lovely picture of Beatrice. Thank you for sharing.
I got the impression that Bea and Edo were very eager to start their own family. Too bad they can't have a small, private ceremony now and then a big blowout later.
No idea but time for bed so hope it is cheery never seen it before in my life :).
I wonder if Kelly had any treatment for her cancer. I haven't read anything other than she died.
Hope you can cheer up :)
I don’t think many Brits will ever forgive him (I’m one of them). His behaviour goes way beyond the excuse of any potential drug problem. Harry is showing us who he really is. He’s way past redemption by any PR plan. :o/