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Open Post: Additional developments in the Sussex saga

My vacation continues, but here's a fresh post to discuss additional events in the Sussex saga.

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Lily Love said…
This isn’t Harry or Meghan related, but I am pretty sure I am going to have to end up disowning my brother.
HappyDays said…
What I want to know is if Meghan had no knowledge of her five friends talking to People magazine to protect defenseless victim Meghan, then how on God’s green earth did People magazine acquire a copy of the actual handwritten letter from Meghan to Thomas?

Was Meghan handing out copies of the letter like Halloween candy? There probably were only a copy kept by Meghan, a copy with her attorney and/ or public relations team and the original the was sent to Thomas.

The People article contained close-up readable photos of sections of the letter in Meghan’s handwriting. As a flaming narcissist, Meghan is too much of a control freak to allow copies of the actual letter to just be floating around between five of her girlfriends. Access to copies of the letter were likely tightly controlled, and we KNOW Thomas didn’t give it to People.

The purpose of Meghan sending the letter to Thomas was she likely figured that Thomas would go running to the media as soon as he received the letter. It would then allow her to cry foul and portray Thomas as an awful man inflicting deep emotional harm on his innocent vulnerable, pregnant daughter. She was trying to manipulate and set Thomas up for a public hit job with that letter. It had nothing to do with “breaking her heart into a million pieces.” In order to break Meghan’s heart, she’d first have to have one.

When it became obvious sometime in late 2018 that Thomas didn’t take the bait and was just sitting on the letter, it must have infuriated Meghan. Her attempt to manipulate Thomas wasn’t working, so she probably came up with Plan B, which was much more elaborate and called for using five of her friends giving interviews to People, one of her favorite mouthpieces, but to make it sensational, it would necessitate providing a copy of the actual letter to the magazine.

So back to my original question: Who provided the copy of the handwritten letter to People at a resolution that was suitable to run as a large photo in the story? If it wasn’t directly from Meghan herself, it was likely provided by someone who had an approval from Meghan to provide it to People. She’s too conniving, manipulative, and controlling to allow copies of the letter to be just floating around.

Any thoughts?

Barbara said…
I know that on Wednesday, the High Court heard MM's petition to keep the identities of her five friends a secret, but I haven't heard anything else. Does anyone know when the judge is expected to make his ruling?
Sandie said…
The Duke of Sussex is like the Duke of Windsor, but Wallis actually had more style and class and good manners than Meghan will ever have. Imagine the show she will put on when it comes time to bury Harry's grandparents! They will try to make their appearance all about them. His family should be in no doubt that the couple are completely poisonous. Dan Wooton (sp?) has an opinion piece about them in The Sun that confirms some rumours. It is well known that William had issues with his father but that rift has healed, to the benefit of all. Any surprises for anyone in the article? Well, Harry, I hope her and the life she led you to are worth throwing away family, friends, interests, home, country, values, honour, respect ...
Sandie said…
@HappyDays: It was the DM that reproduced a facsimile of part of the letter, not People magazine.
Barbara said, I know that on Wednesday, the High Court heard MM's petition to keep the identities of her five friends a secret, but I haven't heard anything else. Does anyone know when the judge is expected to make his ruling.

The judge said he’d let it be known in due course, no actual date given as far as I know. I’ve only heard/read August. I hope he makes them testify. Megsy can’t drop the case unless the MoS agrees to it. We need for the MoS barristers to keep up the pressure.
Barbara said…
BG has a new post up called Benjamin Franklin and the Sisterhood, about MM's five friends. Will they perjure themselves for her? Hell to the NO! They have hired their own lawyers, incurring costs they never expected to have, and their own reputations are about to be tarnished badly unless they tell the truth. I was wrong about MM - I thought she was intelligent, but all of her actions show that she is dumb, dumb, dumb. All of her plans are falling apart. She thought the hagiography Finding Freedom would rally the public to her side, but it's having exactly the opposite effect. This court case against the MoS was supposed to gain public sympathy for her, but again, it's having the opposite effect. If the truth is revealed, namely that she orchestrated the People magazine article and then lied about it, whatever is left of her reputation will be ruined.
Sandie said…
It was MOS, the media outlet she is suing, that published a facsimile of part of the letter, not DM. Apologies for that error. People magazine published a short quote that was so acurate that it could not have been reproduced from memory. It is all highly suspicious. I wonder if the judge will continue to tolerate the dramatics from Meghan.
Food for thought:

I don't know if this link will work but it's a cartoon which seems relevant:

https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=leunig+cartoons+selfie+phone&fr=yfp-search-sb&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.leunig.com.au%2Fimages%2Frecent-cartoons%2Fselfie-phone-2.jpg#id=9&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.leunig.com.au%2Fimages%2Frecent-cartoons%2Fselfie-phone-2.jpg&action=click

The alternative is to google `Leunig selfie phone'

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I also came across this on line:

https://barendspsychology.com/narcissism-facts/

Narcissism facts – prevalence
• 6.2% of the people have narcissism. 7.7% of the men and 4.8% of the women [1].
• More young adults (20-34) than older adults (50+) have narcissism: 8.9% versus 4.4% [1].
• Narcissism is more common among Afro-Americans (12,5%) compared to Hispanics (7.5%) and Caucasians (5.0%) [1].
• There are more single (9.6%), divorced/separated (7.3%) narcissists than married ones (4.9%) [1].
xxxxx said…
@HappyDays
Whoever was the principal of the five, gave the letter to People Mag. Abigail Spencer probably. I doubt Megs gave it directly. She had to maintain a fiction.
Fairy Crocodile said…
My respect for Dan Wooton has grown. He obviously has very powerful sources and can expose Sussexes lies. He did many times.

The one I like is Megsy was crying they were pushed into action by press reports about their exit while the truth is Dan had been in touch with their office about the story for days.

He also confirms what we all knew: while Harry is glued to Megsy reconciliation is highly unlikely.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Happy Days

If you and the rest of us are asking these questions then the MoS lawyers definitely do too. Media can't talk about the active court case until it reaches Amber and Depp stage, but, if not dropped, the details will be publicly exposed.
@xxxx
`Whoever was the principal of the five, gave the letter to People'

Yet, if that was the case, why didn't they check it with Megsie?

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Have this been flagged up yet:


`Prince Harry slammed by former transport minister for 'hypocritical' travel speech'

@ https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/prince-harry-slammed-former-transport-22446863
Sandie said…
@WBBM: Those statistics for narcissism are surprising as it seems to be more prevalent than that. However, we all have some degree of narcisstic traits that wax and wane. The full-blown narc has a number of traits and behaviours that go beyond being self-centred and wanting to be in the spotlight.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Barbara
Loved your post. She must be absolutely uncontrollable, to the point of psychotic, to alienate both Wills and Queen's friend and dresser Angela Kelly to the extent they concluded royal jewellery can not be trusted to Megs.

Angela Kelly by her position has a say in these matters, and she is very discreet and doesn't do anything without the Queen knowing. And now Scobie's book alienated Will, Kate, Angela and countless others even more.

The only talent Megsy has is destroying relations and turning people against herself.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid

Yes, the link works! The cartoon is very good and very apt.

Re

Have this been flagged up yet:

'Prince Harry slammed by former transport minister for 'hypocritical' travel speech'

Yes I did late last night at 12.54am. Although no one replied to me, I think someone may have mentioned it. It was in the DM.
Lucky Dog said…
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Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki I posted this on other page for you

Harry’s latest Travelyst
was filmed whilst he looked drugged or p...ed
Megsies love for Harry’s ghost
has seen them move from coast to coast

All we know are Megsies versions
of what went down on these excursions
Make no mistake she’ll claw for more
whilst booting Harry out the door
These latest ploys are mere diversions
she’s now intent to cast Casper’sions
IEschew said…
I didn’t realize there was a new Nutty post-moving my post of a few minutes ago here. Also adding, after reading comments on this thread, that perhaps the threat to H that I reference below, if I am right, is because she feels desperate right now. She can control him with press leaks like the ghost emoji story to show him she means business and he had better not leave her. I think all she has at this point is her claims of worse stories to tell about the BRF than the BRF and press have to tell about her. I am not sure that her race card will work so well in her favor if she plays it, given her utterly tone deaf behavior this summer, though it might still have some weight.

*My post from previous thread follows:*

Hello everyone. I have not been able to keep up with all the posts here lately, so I may be echoing others: The ghost emoji story is, in my opinion, part of Meghan’s PR setup against Harry. Sort of like “bless your heart” in the US South, she is saying look, how “cute” (aka stupid) is he, he doesn’t even know how to use emojis properly. I believe the divorce wheels are already in motion, maybe just as a contingency plan or even a threat to H.
I'm a lawyer, so I would just like to clarify something regarding Megsy's lawsuit against the MoS.

There have been suggestions that the lawsuit could be settled out of court, but I think it's very unlikely. In order to come to a settlement, both parties have to agree, and I just don't see why the MoS would want to settle, on any terms. Why should they? As long as the case is ongoing, they can continue to report on it - and expose Megsy for the liar and vindictive brat she is.

Could she drop the case? Sure, a plaintiff can withdraw their lawsuit at any time (unless the defendant has filed a counter suit, in which case the counter suit continues). BUT - and this is very important - anytime a plaintiff withdraws her lawsuit, she has to pay the other side's costs. She's already been ordered to pay the costs for the hearing held on MoS's motion to strike some of her allegations; paying the costs for the dropped lawsuit would be even more expensive. And of course, she has to pay her own lawyers, as well. So for her to drop the suit would not only be a humiliating admission of defeat (although I'm sure she would try to spin it some way to try to save face) but would also be very expensive. Of course, if it goes to trial and she loses, she would have to pay the defendant's costs as well, so either way, she is trapped.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

I have some old Michael Leunig
Christmas cards and wrapping paper.
Nothing pertaining to Megs and her traits,
thank goodness.

Another point I'd like to make: I cannot fathom on what legal principle a judge would agree to keep the identity of Megsy's friends secret. One of the basic principles of our judicial system is that all proceedings are public, with the identity of witnesses made public as well (in contrast to totalitarian regimes, where people are often condemned in secret trials). Now there are some exceptions to that principle: one is where children are involved as parties or witnesses, another is where someone has to testify against a mobster and his open testimony would considerably shorten his life expectancy. However, I have never heard of a case where a witness' identity should be secret because he or she might be written about in the media. Megsy's lawsuit against the MoS is a high-profile case, just because of who she is, so it's to be expected that the media will write about it, but that is not a reason to keep witnesses' identity secret.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I, too, didn't realize there was a new thread, so am reposting this from earlier one --

Miz Malaprop said...
@Lr Uhuru

Think of Hollywood as an industry town. for every movie star, there are agents, lawyers, cosmetic dentists & plastic surgeons that live alongside the famous faces, but the quest for beauty, attention and money infiltrates so much of the city. Even though Meghan wasn't in a celebrity household, she schooled with the children of film executives, actors, agents, etc. Her father's position as a lighting director made him "crew" thus, the unglamorous. Like NYC, London, Paris, there's a very high a level of ambition and status consciousness that trickles down to the school kids.


I'll say this, that Doria sent her to the Little Red Schoolhouse says she, Doria, was ambitious and looking to make well-placed connections. Great school, hard to get into, very hip and lots of rich famous parents send their kids there. Less abiut academics, more about kids getting to truly express themselves .... So she started young proclaiming her truth.


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Thanks, Miz M. I do think it's important to examine MM's childhood as well as her adulthood in order to get better perspective. You have helped give me some important pieces of the puzzle.

So status is a key component of the facade. The lure of reaching the *highest* levels is what feeds the all-consuming ambition. I wouldn't be surprised if both Thomas and Doria fed MM endless drips and drops of "You are a star, go for it" from the time she was a small tot. Their idea of *love*, I guess. MM fixated on that and never looked back.

As for *expressing themselves*, sounds like more of the "everyone gets a trophy" dross that took hold in the '90s. "All your thoughts R good," regardless. Makes sense!

Thanks again :)
Magatha Mistie said…

@Barbara

Looks like win win for MoS
even if they lose
Sandie said…
Unfortunately, the Cambridges have been painted as saints in comparison to the Harkles. Beimg born high up the working royal ladder does not eradicate the difficulties in coping with the unique role of being a full-time working royal. Anne has been the only one who has come close to emulating her mother without some painful mistakes or choices that drew criticism. The problem with Meghan is that she could not adapt, lacked commitment to values, disrespected everyone and has a supremely enabling husband. She was never going to fit into Harry's life and at her age should have known that. Not so whip smart after all. That she feels no shame about all the money wasted on her is most disturbing. That she feels like a victim is unacceptable and a huge insult to the Queen and everyone else.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Sorry, I didn't see your earlier post - I read everybody's.
At this stage, taking the p** out of them is all we've left. A big thank you for reposting 😘
Sandie said…
@Lucky Dog: Thanks for the indepth analysis. Her motives and actions have always been questionable.
Mischief Girl said…
@Sandie,
I agree that JCMH is a lot like the Duke of Windsor and that he is becoming and will continue to evolve into a completely tragic figure. Such potential, completely wasted.

From what I know, at least Wallis devoted her public, married life to the attention of the Duke. She did what she could to maintain the fiction that he was important and central in her life, even if she had other romantic liaisons (and I don't know if she did or not). But her public, outward face was nothing but respectful to the Duke and helped create and sustain the fiction that he was a Great Man. I get the sense she was deeply unhappy in the marriage, but she maintained the charade, at least in public, anyway.

MM is the opposite of Wallis in that everything is All About ME, as this team of Nutty bloggers have dissected thoroughly. MM makes JCMH look pathetic--with help from him, to be sure--but she does nothing to boost his reputation. Granted, it's hard to prop someone up when you're too busy standing on their shoulders to make yourself more visible.

I don't like either woman, Wallis or MM, but at least it appeared Wallis knew how to play the game, whereas MM is in this relationship strictly for her benefit.

All of the Wallis comments are purely my conjecture. I don't claim to have any deep insight into Wallis' psyche as I haven't read a lot about either of the Windsors. I find other historical and recent royals far more interesting and sympathetic. There are too many books to read and too little time, so prioritizing has to take place and the Windsors fall to the bottom of that heap.
Sandie said…
Hollywood seems to be the right place for the Harkles as it reflects their values. But they have nothing to offer Hollywood in terms of talent. Nor are they trustworthy and neither of them has a strong work ethic. Nor does anyone want to work with entitled brats. They may get invited to social events as curiosities, but woe betide those who agree to work with them, Just my opinion on the messy affair.
Natalier said…
I think there is another reason why the MoS will not drop the case yet - by forcing her to take the stand, being cross-examined and probably spilling private and unknown information about the royal family - for the MoS and the press, it would be like a goldmine previously unavailable to anyone. It was the obvious motive for the NGN/Depp case - for them it was not about defending The Sun or Dan Wooten but about bringing this Hollywood megastar and his beautiful ex-wife together and watch them fight it out in court.

I am scared of the private info that Meghan will spill during the trial - she is a vindictive woman and may damage and even bring down the monarchy. You can see from her actions of releasing totally unrelated info to the case. What she can't have she will try to destroy.
xxxxx said…
@Barbara from Montreal

Thanks for the legal analysis for Megsy. And what she will be paying out...From other people's money of course, such as the Cornwall Duchy

For mega-leech Megsy, this case is not costing her a dime. It is risk free for her.
xxxxx said…
MoS will not settle, they like to see this case prolonged. They will get more Megsy-articles out of it over the next months. This means more clicks and more $$$ rolling in.
@ Natalier

Every time she attacks the royal family it backfires. British regard royals as sort of their property, almost family, and most of the royals fit the nation's expectation quite well. Even Charles is now viewed as a victim thanks to the book.

Meghan will not win anything by pouring dirt. She will lose more.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Lt = I think if we look at Meg's childhood and upbringing, one thing we have to bring up is her physical attributes.

She had some very unattractive features - crooked eyes, bulbous nose, very uneven teeth, wiry and unruly hair, big feet, disproportionate limb length, no waist, big jaw

I think this might cause a real inferiority complex in a place like Hollywood. And narcissism is just a cover for a very bad case of inferiority.
OKay said…
@Mischief Girl It's my understanding that David and Wallis BOTH had (mostly same-sex) lovers. It's just something royalty do, apparently, though not necessarily the same-sex part. At least they had the decency to be discreet about it.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Mischief - I once read an expose of Wallis in Vanity Fair - apparently, her lover would pull out his penis onto a plate and ask the wait staff to slice his sausage. She found this hilarious. And it was in full view of David.
Humor Me said…
The comparions between MM and Wallis Simpson have been ongoing since the wedding. I never thought that Wallis would emerge as a saint until H&M declared their independence.
As to the MoS lawsuit - I love the fact that in British Courts, MM must pay the legal fees as part of the ongoing trial due to her side losing a motion (forgive me if I do not state it properly). In American Courts, it would be an 'oh well", but this looks like a slap on the hand with a ruler like the nuns did in catholic schools! Ouch!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Girl with a Hat said...
@Lt = I think if we look at Meg's childhood and upbringing, one thing we have to bring up is her physical attributes.

She had some very unattractive features - crooked eyes, bulbous nose, very uneven teeth, wiry and unruly hair, big feet, disproportionate limb length, no waist, big jaw

I think this might cause a real inferiority complex in a place like Hollywood. And narcissism is just a cover for a very bad case of inferiority.
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Bingo.

MM had to have grown up horribly insecure, given that many (most?) of the upper-echelon Hollywood girls were not only privileged but looked better naturally, due to attractive-gene people producing them as their children.

In her quest for perfection, MM had to have spent tens of thousands of dollars (and still does, now that she's almost 40).

Can't do much about being shaped like Sponge Bob, tho, stick legs and all ;)
Miggy said…
Apparently Megsy has donated some money!

Migrateful @MigratefulUK

"We're so excited to share that we have received a donation of £8000 from The Royal Foundation on behalf of The Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle! We are immensely grateful for this donation which will go towards supporting the Migrateful mission."
Miggy said…
BUT... I thought they were no longer a part of The Royal Foundation???
Girl with a Hat said…
@Lt, the people I know who had to have plastic surgery because they were unattractive and we're made to feel that way, also turned out to be horrible narcissists. Either by parents or school mates.
Sandie said…
Perhaps the donation was Harry's share in the split. Since the Harkles do not have a foundation set up to take the funds, they are donating them to organisations according to legal requirements?
Enbrethiliel said…
@iEschew
The story about the ghost emojis came out of nowhere. My friend thinks that Meg leaked it because she thought it would make her and Harry seem cool and relatable to her youthful target audience. While Meghan's aim has been off before, I don't think that's the real story behind it.

But if she planted it to make Harry look bad, well, that is something out of the narc playbook! Very vindictive and very petty of her. I wonder what the poor fellow did to trigger it this time . . .
IIRC, I read once that Wallis and David actually charged people to attend their parties, etc. It was a revenue stream for them but rather sad when you think about it.

Also
@Tatty. I've been thinking what you said about there must be a real Archie because she filed suit for him. Except that she filed suit against "John Doe' and not real people (because she didn't now any to sue) and nowhere does the legal system require proof of life or existence when filing a suit agains "unknowns". I mean he may very well exist but the filing of a bogus, and yes its bogus until she supplies the names of real people to be sued, lawsuit does not guarantee Archie exists. Or she has custody. Or that he was "of the body" . or all the other questions. Basically she used the legal system for free PR because you can't sue unknowns until they are known (by somebody anyway).

I hope that made sense.
Sandie said…
PS They have Sussexroyal set up but they are not allowed to use the term royal so it is dead in the water. Archewell has not been registered or set up (the application was submitted and then withdrawn).
Christine said…
Good Morning (for me at least) I know you all live allover the world!

Such great reading you guys. Learned so many new things ie. Kate wearing the rose fascinator to the Commonwealth service. I sensed such anger and bitterness from Kate toward Meghan that day. I suspect that no one dislikes Meghan more than Kate. I feel that Kate has had to constantly deal with Meghan's b.s. Whether directed at her or her husband. Especially if Meghan is the source of those Rose rumors. I remember Kate's last birthday, I recall seeing a pic of Kate driving somewhere, which is a rare photo in any case. Kate looked massively stressed. Meghan pulled some crap that day. Kate has a beautiful face but she looked so tense.

Re. The Five Friends- There can be no doubt whatsoever that Meghan colluded with them for the People Mag article. As Happy Days so perfectly put it, "Was she handing out copies of the letter like Halloween candy?" Exactly, you don't have to be a genius to put this entire puzzle together. She very stupidly filed this suit and it will greatly backfire on her. Meghan describes herself as whip-smart but I wouldn't say that is true. She has an end goal in mind, all the time, but she cannot piece together the proper way to get there. That is how she makes so many errors and foolish choices.

Re. William and Charles- Yes I believe there has been a lot of tension there over the years. I love William but yes, he can be petulant as well. Maybe petulant is the wrong word (describes Harry perfectly). William is the relunctant King who had to be turned around. The combination of the grounding of Kate and the Middleton family, having his own children, William's inate sense of duty and his serious love of his Grandmother have all turned him around I think. That 'Dad Dancing' thing was so funny. Look it up for a laugh. That was very bad PR for William and Kate though. But very small in the grand scheme of things compared with the Harry and Meghan sh** show

Re. Meghan's insecurities about her looks growing up. It seems to me that Meghan's parents utterly doted on her. I get the vibe that she was the absolute favorite. I don't sense insecurity there. I think she was a complete narcissist in the making and the combination of her laid-back allowed her to rule her roost. She corrected some of her appearance issues and voila we have the Meghan Markle of today.
According to BG, MM launched the lawsuit against the MoS thinking they would fold like a cheap suitcase and give her millions of dollars in an out of court settlement. Surprise!!!! Instead, her plan blew up in her face, just like all of her other plans have. She was going to leave the BRF and move to Hollywood with JH where she would be the toast of the town, invited to all the most glamorous events, have famous directors offering her choice parts in prestigious films, and make lots and lots of money. None of that happened and it's not just because of coronavirus - with the way she has acted, I don't think the outcome would be any different even if there were no pandemic.
abbyh said…

Oh I don't know how much money they will get from PC to cover the lawsuit (although I suspect it would have been touched on during the Megxit negotiations).

He has already commented that the Duchy is not nearly as profitable this year so I suspect that the idea they can just dial up and get more money has faded.

I would like to think of it as he offers them a set amount and do they want it for living expenses or pay the lawyers (giving them the control they want over their lives).
Seabee666 said…
HappyDays said…

What I want to know is if Meghan had no knowledge of her five friends talking to People magazine to protect defenseless victim Meghan, then how on God’s green earth did People magazine acquire a copy of the actual handwritten letter from Meghan to Thomas?
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People didn't get a copy. Meghan's friends quoted parts of the letter verbatim trashing Thomas in the midst of fawning over and flattering Meghan. They refer to visiting her at Frogmore, so"heavily pregnant" they were worried about her health. Except the issue was published on Feb. 7. Interviewing five different sources, fact checking (ha!) and editing takes a while. So no one could have been at Frogmore any later than early January - the tale end of the holiday season when these women would all have been with their own families. At any rate, Archie was born mid-May and weighed 7.3 lbs. Meghan should not have been heavily pregnant with five months to go. It's all such lies. These women all must have been very invested in Markle's marriage to go to such lengths for her. We know it wasn't friendship. What? More followers on Instagram? Better parts for the actress? Business promotion? You know what they say, a fish rots from its head.
Mel said…
Barbara from Montreal said…have famous directors offering her choice parts in prestigious films, 

I never understood her thinking there....she's gotta be the world's worst actress ever. She was lucky to get (and keep) that part in Suits.

I don't understand her wanting to be an actress when she is so incredibly bad at it.

I wonder what made her think that she would have a chance there. She's not drop dead gorgeous and has no acting skills whatsoever, two of the things that she would need the most to have a successful career in acting.

It's interesting that she wasn't guided to some other sort of career that would have worked better for her.

Migrateful - that's about par for the course, choosing an charity that benefits a selected, somewhat controversial, part of the population.

Pity she didn't send a donation to https://www.trusselltrust.org/ which helps people according to their need, not their origin.

Only to be expected. Anything to stick it to the Brits, under the guise of doing good.

I'd better not say any more.
Piroska said…
@Miggy Apparently Megsy has donated some money!

It is from Sussex Royal
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have dissolved their Sussex Royal foundation, and they're using the remaining funds to support causes close to their hearts.

On Friday, the charity Migrateful announced on Twitter that they received a $10,000 donation on behalf of the Duchess of Sussex. "We are immensely grateful for this donation which will go towards supporting the Migrateful mission," wrote.
Catlady1649 said…
The quote "Never argue/sue a man who buys ink by the barrel" comes to mind
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Girl with a Hat said...
@Lt, the people I know who had to have plastic surgery because they were unattractive and we're made to feel that way, also turned out to be horrible narcissists. Either by parents or school mates.
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Yes, after all, *normal* people only spend one tenth the time and money on their appearance that narcissists do, IMO.

I bolded the bit in your post because we've become such an appearance-worshiping society across the board, where it once was more or less confined to Hollywood and the East Coast upper classes. Social media seems to have every young girl obsessed with her own appearance and devastated when either she can't live up to the impossible, or she is bullied and shamed because of her looks.

MM is the poster girl of this.
Seabee666 said…
Blogger Barbara said...
BG has a new post up called Benjamin Franklin and the Sisterhood, about MM's five friends. Will they perjure themselves for her? Hell to the NO! They have hired their own lawyers, incurring costs they never expected to have, and their own reputations are about to be tarnished badly unless they tell the truth. I was wrong about MM - I thought she was intelligent, but all of her actions show that she is dumb, dumb, dumb.
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I have always thought so, too. What Meghan has is an out-sized ego, a good education, and fearlessness about lying. She also feels very sorry for herself. If you look at the series of photos from Ninaki Priddy's kiddie birthday party, Meghan is sulking in every one, clearly unhappy not be the center of attention. In her secret blog, The Working Actress Markle related how hard and discouraging it was to chase fame and fortune in Hollywood. The blog follows Meghan to Suits and within a season or two she's whining about all the time in hair and make-up and attending boring industry events.

Meghan is stupid and slick. If she had been a little slicker, the world would have been her oyster. A global ambassador allowed, in a large part, to write her own script. If she could live in the shadow of higher ranking royals and obey their rules, she could have outshone them all. But her greed and entitlement drew criticism which she couldn't handle and Victim reared her ugly head, again. So yes, I agree in my meandering way, Meghan is stupid, stupid, stupid.
Snippy said…
Re. the ghost emojis and initial necklace: these come across as so middle-school! If I was seeing someone in my late 30s who carried on a conversation via text with emojis instead of real words, and gave me a cheap trinket necklace with our initials on it, I would have run screaming the other way. Soooo tacky and juvenile! Megsy must have some actual acting chops, cause I wouldn’t have been able to conceal the horror on my face when I opened up the tacky necklace (alleged gift from Harry) and saw something that looked like it came from Claire’s.

I guess she didn’t have to fake it anymore once the ring was on her finger (and she had it remade to add a bunch of diamonds)!
Snippy said, Re. the ghost emojis and initial necklace: these come across as so middle-school! If I was seeing someone in my late 30s who carried on a conversation via text with emojis instead of real words, and gave me a cheap trinket necklace with our initials on it, I would have run screaming the other way. Soooo tacky and juvenile! Megsy must have some actual acting chops, cause I wouldn’t have been able to conceal the horror on my face when I opened up the tacky necklace (alleged gift from Harry) and saw something that looked like it came from Claire’s.

I guess she didn’t have to fake it anymore once the ring was on her finger (and she had it remade to add a bunch of diamonds)!


So true and I agree! They act like love-struck teenagers....totally embarrassing considering they are nearer 40! Lol

Oh the ring changes! I hated the tiny thin band that replaced the original thicker one. It looks far too top heavy now. I thought it was rude and ungracious to change it. :o/
Grisham said…
I haven’t been around much.

How do we know th 5 friends hired lawyers? Thanks.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/BaronessBruck/status/1289234360936222721/photo/2

this is a celebrity photographer in Toronto, Canada.
Bubbles said…
Something that’s bothering me .... why was Kate supposed to go out of her way while pregnant and having just given birth to a third child!!!??? As someone so sympathetic to Young Mothers?? Oh megs. They sky is blue until that doesn’t fit your narrative anymore.
Grisham said…
@musty one of us is losing track of lawsuits.

Archie’s lawsuit is not the same lawsuit as the drone John Doe lawsuit.

I think.

Lol.
Grisham said…
Ok, yes,

Archie is the plaintiff in a lawsuit suing Splash for photos taken in Canada.

https://extra.ie/2020/06/24/entertainment/celebrity/prince-harry-meghan-markles-archie-sue-photo-agency
Teasmade said…
I just looked up what Migrateful does, and, uh, I approve. It pushes all the right buttons and helps in several ways. I'm -- it's, I'm kind of speechless. Surely they didn't come up with this themselves. What am I missing?
@ Mel: in MM's narcissistic mind, she is not only drop-dead gorgeous but also very talented. She really lacks self-awareness and doesn't see how others perceive her. Apparently her parents, but especially her father, fostered her attitude - from the time she was a little girl, he told her all the time that she was the most special little girl ever and would grow up to be a big star, and she believed him -and still does. It explains why she responds to criticism, not with humility and self-reflection, but rather with anger and outrage.
Unknown said…
MAY 8, 2018

THE STORY BEHIND MEGHAN MARKLE’S H & M INITIAL NECKLACE

The necklace

Back in 2016, the Right Hand Gal jewelry company was commissioned to create their signature mini initial necklace with the initials M & H. Meghan’s BFF and stylist, Jessica Mulroney, went into Ani + Wren, a boutique the friends often shopped at, and ordered one of the necklaces with the initials “H” and “M” on it. The girls at Ani + Wren shared with us that they knew the order was placed by Jessica and that they were puzzled about who the titular “H” and “M” were.  Right Hand Gal actually photographed the exact necklace before it was delivered
Christine said…
Barbara from Montreal- I 100% agree. She is an unusal person. Most of us like some things about our selves but not all things. Most of us try to work on the things we don't like. A smaller majority of people do not like themselves and struggle all their lives. Meghan is far on the other end of the spectrum. I really believe she truly utterly adores herself. An attitude fostered by her parents, especially her Dad. Although Doria is to blame too. When I read that horrible tig blog entry about how Meghan exists in two worlds (celebrity and charity) and her mother said "That's just how you are Flower". I kind of wanted to barf.
Teasmade said…
May I just add about this stupid necklace that to categorize it as being for a middle school girl (12-year-old-ish for the non-US of you here) is -- well, to me, it's the kind of thing you'd give a baby if you believed in jewelry for babies, which I do not. (But many people do. When I went in not too long ago to have my ears re-pierced it was hard to find earrings that weren't eentsy, like the size of a capital O filled in. Or the size of a dried green pea.)

I did receive an Add-a-Pearl necklace as a baby but the deal is, you get a pearl for subsequent birthdays so by the time you're old enough for jewelry, you have a decent size necklace; it doesn't STAY eentsy until you are almost 40.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
@Teasmade

Yes, it sounds very worthy but, from where I'm standing:

The people that Migrateful trains are not allowed to work because their status as refugees has not been confirmed. Britain is an island, surrounded by safe European countries. International law decrees that refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. So technically, the only refugees we should be expected to take are those who arrive by air and those the Government agrees to take in by international agreement.

Nobody can walk into England, Wales or Scotland. On their own, they'd have to swim.

Many of these people have paid handsomely for criminals, aka people smugglers, to bring them here, not out of the goodness of their hearts but for hard cash. The last part of the journey is done by crossing the Channel in tiny boats, across one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. They have come through a number of EU countries in which it would be perfect safe for them to claim asylum.

A recent case highlights this - a refrigerated lorry was found near the Essex docks. Within were 39 Chinese people, every one dead from suffocation. They had travelled overland all the way, through safe countries, apart from the last journey on a ferry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50162617

Britain has a proud history of accepting refugees, from the French Huguenots, who gave us the word `refugee', right through to the present.

My black ancestor presumably did not come of his own volition but the Huguenots and Jews in among my forebears were able to find sanctuary from the persecution going on in France and the Low Countries. We took in Spaniards, German and Austrians in the 1930s, and also those from the Eastern bloc who had been here as Allies in WW2 but who could not return home when it was over. We've taken boat people from Vietnam and Ugandan Asians. I have taught youngsters who had escaped Czechoslovakia with their parents after the Prague Spring (1968) and those of anti-apartheid activists who'd had to get our of South Africa. Many more of my pupils were the children of refugees from the 1930s.

We are a small, densely populated place - even when the deserted wastes of the Scottish Highlands are taken into account. We are heading for a major crisis of unemployment in the wake of Covid 19. We are desperately short of decent housing. We do not need to encourage yet more people to arrive unbidden.

IMO, Meghan was yet again giving us the middle finger.
CatEyes said…
@Christine

When I heard Meg's family nickname for her was 'Flower" I almost barfed. Having a strong background in botany made me immediately think of the infamous plant called 'Amorphophallus titanumn' or commonly the 'Corspe Flower' because it stinks like rotting dead flesh or spoiled baby diapers when it blooms. So the Botanical world would be wise to rename this plant the 'Meghanphallus insanitium'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369911/Huge-plant-stinks-rotting-flesh-set-flower-time.html
hunter said…
Dan Wooten's new article in The Sun explicitly states "William and the Queen’s dresser and closest confidante, Angela Kelly, were united in their decision not to loan Meghan items from the Royal Collection, which included tiaras worn by Diana."

Queen Mary's tiara is a piece within the Royal Collection.

Wooten has just confirmed Meghan's tiara was a fake.

This also explains why her tiara was missing the central stone placement and upper crest clearly seen on Queen Mary's version yet mysteriously missing from Meghan's.

The Queen doesn't give a toss what the public thinks (borrowed tiara) when everyone in the Royal Family knows the truth.
Humor Me said…
@hunter - do tell! where is the piece that Dan Wooten spills on the tiara. I cannot find it. Thx.
Grisham said…
That is old news from 2019 and after the wedding: https://pagesix.com/2019/04/04/the-queen-bans-meghan-markle-from-wearing-crown-jewels/
Grisham said…
What part of the diamond bandeau was missing?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/jewellery/meghan-markles-wedding-tiara-queen-marys-diamond-bandeau-tiara/
The link to the latest Dan Wootten piece in the Sun:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1229327/harry-meghan-book-huge-misstep-worse/
Grisham said…
One more for good measure: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7695724/royal-wedding-meghan-markle-difficult-behaviour/
Grisham said…
From golden’a Latest link, Dan states it was after the wedding: “The now infamous tiara row, which I first revealed in November 2018, was the culmination of many fallouts before the wedding.

Afterwards,...”

Meaning after the wedding...


(afterwards means “at a later time” )
jessica said…
I think Meghan really started struggling with reality when she met Harry.
Maneki Neko said…
@WWBM says:

We are a small, densely populated place - even when the deserted wastes of the Scottish Highlands are taken into account. We are heading for a major crisis of unemployment in the wake of Covid 19. We are desperately short of decent housing. We do not need to encourage yet more people to arrive unbidden.

IMO, Meghan was yet again giving us the middle finger.
____________________________

You're so right, also your post at 7.55pm. What is that Floozie doing giving money to that organisation? Where does the money come from? (sorry, I haven't been able to find much about it). And dare I say this is very political.
jessica said…
I say that after reading about People and the Letter, and Thomas’ comments.

She changed who she was to snare Harry. Harry is a gullible sheltered fool.

In her games, she forgot she just this regular middle class part time actress. She started thinking she could
Keep ‘acting’ for PR. She justified it thinking Sam and Thomas would make a lot of money off the whole thing, not realizing Thomas actually seems to care about his reputation, and basic facts.
xxxxx said…
abbyh said...
He has already commented that the Duchy is not nearly as profitable this year so I suspect that the idea they can just dial up and get more money has faded.

Charles has been saying that the Cornwall duchy has been deferring rent and lease payments due to the Covid19 situation. Charles might be compelled to send less money Harry's way whether he likes it or not. The Harkles might have to tighten their belts

Charles cannot be brutal with his Duchy people. Many are agricultural tenant farmers and Chas screwing them will make for very bad PR. Thus the deferrals, plus I think Charles is a good enough person to do it this way anyway. Shared sacrifice.
KCM1212 said…
hello all

Where did MM get 10k to give to anyone?

Has to be part of the Travalyst/Sussex Royal liquidation, yes?
So why did only MM get the credit?

There is a tumblr blog I stumbled across that has a couple of interesting items.

The first is some previously unseen MM shots purportedly taken as proof she was back in Canada after being booted by PC for the sneaked photos KP.

The more interesting item is Wikipedia 's pages on Doria. She started out described as a "yoga instructor". A month later upgraded to a "yoga therapist" and a masters degree in
Social Work. A few days later Clinical Therapist was added.

MMs resume included a "Communications degree" from NW. At the same time Dorias entry was changed (Nov2016) MMs was changed to the Double Major in Theater and International studies.

IIRC, we had some discussion to the effect that the double major would have been listed under "communications". But since Dorias entries would have required licensing, it would be interesting to see whether she was licensed, and who made those changes. Today, she is apparently listed as a former social worker.

The other changes to Megs as humanitarian, etc. has been tracked back to an early pr firm in LA Megs used. That isnt on this blog, but I think I can find it if anyone is curious.

https://bunnieuniverse.tumblr.com

Unknown said…
@tatty The way it's written, "Afterwards" could mean after the wedding OR after the "infamous tiara row" which happened before the wedding. Dan knows exactly what he is doing by writing it that way.

I doubt Rache was wearing a fake tiara but when it comes to H&M, who knows?

Dan Wooten wrote...
The now infamous tiara row, which I first revealed in November 2018, was the culmination of many fallouts before the wedding.

Afterwards, William and the Queen’s dresser and closest confidante, Angela Kelly, were united in their decision not to loan Meghan items from the Royal Collection, which included tiaras worn by Diana.
BTW there's a difference between the Crown Jewels and the the jewellery belong to the Royal Family.

The Crown Jewels are the formal regalia (ie the items to do do with Kingship) which are kept in the Tower and brought out for Coronations and to a far lesser extent, the State Opening of Parliament:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Jewels_of_the_United_Kingdom

They belong to the `institution of the Monarchy'.

They are not necessarily `jewels' n the way we might think of them.

If Archie really were baptised, I would roar with laughter if the Charles II font were used, rather than the Lily Font we were told about.
Blithe Spirit said…
Talk show Ellen Degeneres is coming under siege for allowing a toxic atmosphere at work. She is threatening to walk away because there is no way back from this PR disaster. Wonder if someone's ears in a freebie Hollywood villa are perking up? Maybe, she is thinking, this is the perfect position for me: money-making high-rated TV show, ideal slot to trot out faux humanitarian ideas, while fame, power and millions in my bank propel me to the top! If Ellen is accused of instructing her employees not to look her in the eye, nor come close, and not eat meat or fish before a meeting. Can you imagine Meghan's arrogance going haywire ? This is after all the woman who insisted on clearing out seats around her for a Wimbledon match! I hope Warner Bros will decline politely.
Miggy said…
EXCLUSIVE: 'Archie has not been in public since the family arrived here.' Meghan and Harry to subpoena records of paparazzi they claim took illegal 'drone' pictures of their son at California home.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8581817/Meghan-Harry-subpoena-records-paparazzi-claim-took-drone-pictures-Archie.html

Meghan referred to as a TV star rather than a Hollywood actress in this article!
Jdubya said…
OT but - documents in Maxwell's case are being unsealed. Here is a link to some of them

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1289009776433782786

It is prior testimony and PA's name is in it.

I feel badly for "some" members of the RF. The backlash the family will have as more of this comes out. But, some members knew he was scum and protected him.
Piroska said…
I like this comment from LSA re donation to Migratefful

It wasn't the Ducharse who donated the money. It was the people who donated to the Royal Foundation, 50% of which went to the now defunct Sussex Royal. So how can it be on her 'behalf'?
Jdubya said…
Piroska - and why is the donation only mentioned as from the Duchess vs the Duke & Duchess?
Girl with a Hat said…
oh my!

look at Scobie before and after plastic surgery!

https://jerseydeanne.com/2020/07/31/richard-eden-meghan-harry/

another one with body dysmorphic disorder
Girl with a Hat said…
Scobie has obviously bleached his skin. And he talks about racism!
Girl with a Hat said…
Also has had his chin chiselled down, like Meghan. No wonder they get along.
lizzie said…
@KCM1212 wrote:

"...since Dorias entries would have required licensing, it would be interesting to see whether she was licensed, and who made those changes. Today, she is apparently listed as a former social worker."

From https://www.humanservicesedu.org/california-social-work-requirements.html

"There is only one type of license in California and that is the Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW). Although, one needs to be registered as an Associate Clinical Social Worker (ASW) with the Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) to gain the required experience to become a Licensed Clinical Social Worker."

Doria is registered as an ASW through 7/21. Her original ASW registration was in 2015. For whatever reason--not enough hours (which is odd if she was full time from 2015 until 2018), couldn't pass national exam--she never got the license-- the LCSW.

I don't know if "therapist" is a protected term in CA. It's not most places so anyone can claim to be one.
Teasmade said…
@WildBoar:Oh, thanks for the explanation! I had no idea about Migrateful (obviously, having just that minute searched on it.) Wow, that is a really subtle slam. She is a gifted conniver. What a snake.

I do understand a bit about the migration situation. I've seen several Brit police procedurals in which people perish in containers (and recently, "Years and Years") -- all sorts of dramas and real-life reports actually.

(I have a tiny bit of Huguenot myself. Mine went to Canada and then down to the US or perhaps the colonies at the time.)

Thanks again for the education! I withdraw my temporary admiration.
CatEyes said…
@Girl with a Hat
"...look at Scobie before and after plastic surgery!
https://jerseydeanne.com/2020/07/31/richard-eden-meghan-harry/"


Oh my, Scobie looked so much better before the 'procedures'. He almost looks hideous in comparison, poor dear! He 'markled' himself so it seems (much like Michael Jackson did in trying to emulate Diana Ross it appeared).

Mango said…
Sorry to interrupt but it’s to be noted that those of us who read and comment on this blog come from many different countries, races, religions, political affiliations and economic ways of life and we all find Meghan Markle repugnant.

Signed,

Mixed Race Reader



Girl with a Hat said…
another Meghan lie! I read that it was said that she would make a cameo in Beyonce's newest video, Black is King. It dropped today and she wasn't in it!
KCM1212 said…
@lizzie
Thanks for the Doria clarification, Lizzie!

Apparently Andrew lobbied the US Govt for a leniency towards
Epstein, reports the Telegraph. Based on unsealed court documents.

http://archive.ph/xnwAZ
Hikari said…
Ellen has been well and truly Markled. She’s toast, and I look for her show to be canceled before the end of the year. So I guess Megan and hairy won’t be invited to be guests. Ellen should’ve kept her trap shut about the fictional tufts of red hair. Maybe Meg performed sexual favors for that celeb PR.

Guess what—Ellen sounds just like Meg. Peas in a pod.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ex-ellen-degeneres-show-employees-claim-culture-rampant-sexual-misconduct-new-report-170312455.html
Girl with a Hat said…
@KCM212, the story about Andrew has not been proven. This is what that woman who says she had sex with Andrew at 17 said.
Jdubya said…
3 new pics of Harry on LSA TODAY AT 6:30 PM POST #145172

He looks horrible. He has lost weight/muscle

the 1st in sweats & a knit cap - while his security is in shorts.
2nd in black looking back at camera
3rd in black again.

I am wondering if these are from So. CA though due to long sleeves. Been hot there so i'm not sure how old these are.

He does look horrid
JHanoi said…
OT- Ellen. Full disclosure - Ive have disliked her ever since years ago, she sent her rabid fans after a dog rescue lady and destroyed the lady’s business & rescue organization. Ellen was totally in the wrong, but thought she was above it all.

I find it fascinating that the metoo/woke/cancel culture has hit her and her show. she perhaps could have avoided some of this if she had paid her staff during the Covid shutdown, instead not paying them and hiring an outside production company to film her show from her home. and her filming from home is very very lame, pathetic, and shows how unfunny she really is.
but the fascinating part is these people/ employess/staff that are blabbing about the meanies will probaly result in the cancelation of the show and all those people losing their jobs. granted alot of them probably dislike her, but they need the jobs don’t they? especially in todays unemployment environment. even if the show isn’t cancelled, id expect ratings to drop., meaning job loss for some.

people often do things that aren’t in their best interest. oh we’ll complain and things will get better, no, the show will be cancelled and you’ll lose your jobs.
SwampWoman said…
JHanoi said people often do things that aren’t in their best interest. oh we’ll complain and things will get better, no, the show will be cancelled and you’ll lose your jobs.



Like MM and JCMHFKAP storming out of the BRF. I doubt that those people on the Ellen show, if they are accusing the star of sexual, racial, etc. harassment, will be able to find homes on other shows.
Hikari said…
@Wild Boar

Carryover comment from the last thread. Another entry for the transatlantic “Separated By a common language” Lexicon.

“Dormitory towns” are called “bedroom communities” in the US. Not so far apart.
YankeeDoodle said…
I talked to an American lawyer, and the lawyer is a member of the bar of the Supreme Court of the United States (won several Supreme Court cases).

I told the lawyer that the two Sussexes are allowed to sue in American courts in L.A. against not-known at the time, or now, reporters and photographers, all of whom have not published or written anything about their kid, known as Archie. Nothing published, but they are suing up to 100 unknown people.

Without knowing any further details, the lawyer said it is unconstitutional for plaintiffs to go after any person or business without just cause. In a civil trial, or even criminal, a plaintiff cannot invade a person or business, looking for whatever they want, without just cause. The absence of any photos, is not a reason to break into the private homes or businesses. If this is upheld, then anybody can sue anybody for whatever they want. I can say my neighbor used a drone, and then I can sue every drone company, and have a judge issue a writ to go through every personal or professional drone company and my neighbor, too.

The two maniacs are crazy. The judge needs to throw out the case, as it is frivolous, unless the judge wants his/her name known.

Every lawsuit, the Supreme Court lawyer said, must first pass the basic “smell test.” The lawsuit regarding a less than interesting kid, especially to Americans who have no idea or interest in his life, stinks to high heaven.

BTW, American taxpayers are now forced to use their tax dollars in an American court with the two smelly Sussexes. They need to leave the pap capital of the world.
Shaggy said…
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It makes sense that someone told them photos were being shopped around.

But nothing make sense with these two so who knows.
Crumpet said…
@WBBM,

I agree with your comments re migrants and the impact on the society they are migrating to and also the country they have left behind. Having young men and women leave in droves is devastating for the economy, towns, communities, families and children left behind.

I think perhaps another reason, Mega Whinge, donated to Migrateful, was her obsession with being a humanitarian like Angelina Jolie--who single handedly saves refugees with a scarf placed strategically on her head like a white Madonna surrounded by brown people--desperate to live (at least she brings attention to their plight).

Madam probably also thinks this might get her some brownie points with some type of UN ambassador position in the future as well. It will look good in her wikipedia bio as well.
@Teasmade - my pleasure! You're welcome.

The other thing is that the people who donated years ago to the Diana Memorial Fund, which is presumably where at least some this money this money originated, had no say in it. Somehow, I don't think they would have approved 100%, or given the money in the first place, had they had been able to see into the future.

Of course, it would have been too much to expect her to donate `her' money to the National Emergencies Trust, given that Wm's involved with that; but it's all too easy to guess that she'd choose a cause guaranteed to get up the nose of many Brits.

@Hikari - nice one! I always think `Vest and pants' is a classic!
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties,

A great little extract in the DM, of Tommy Lascelles book: King's Counselor: Abdication and War. His description of King Edward, VIII--dim, greedy, zero interest in service to country and empire, could not wait to leave the RF (until he left)...sounds like another more contemporary prince.
Enbrethiliel said…
@JHanoi
I suspect, now that the truth about Ellen has come out, that her employees are at peace with the possibility of the show's cancellation. Given how toxic the work environment was, it couldn't have kept going much longer. Perhaps they're surprised it lasted for as long as it has!

It's not a great time to be without work in the entertainment industry, but everyone has had months to brace themselves for the worst. We've already seen a lot of stories about single proprietorships and family businesses closing. Ellen's staffers at least don't have that kind of deep connection to the show.

Now I'm just wondering exactly what opened the floodgates here. Was it simply that these terrible incidents had reached critical mass? Or was there a specific mistake -- a particular person that she rubbed the wrong way? Asking for Meghan. Not that she'd ever believe this sort of thing would happen to her. The rest of us could use the foreshadowing, though.
Originally published in D.Telegraph, published today by Yahoo, with telling photos.

A great shame Markle didn't tell these people what a nasty racist lot we are...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/migrants-pictured-drying-kent-bench-101848207.html

Migrants pictured drying on Kent bench after dumping their stolen dinghy
Gareth Davies
2 days ago

A group of five migrants have been pictured drying off on a bench on the Kent coast having dumped the stolen dinghy they used to cross The Channel.The photographs were taken in Saint Margaret's at Cliffe on Thursday morning.

More than 3,000 migrants have now made it across the Channel to the UK this year.
And with hot weather forecast for the next couple of days - it could mean another influx is imminent migrants typically opting to make the trip when the temperature is warmer.
Kent Police confirmed it was assisting the Border Force and HM Coastguard following reports of suspected migrants seen in the Deal area at around 8.30am.

Campaigners have said that evictions of migrants from camps in Calais are at their highest intensity for years and that attempts to cross the English Channel have risen as a result.
This was the scene in Kent this morning
Aid workers in northern France say police evictions are happening at the highest levels since the Jungle camp was cleared in 2016.
In one incident, more than 500 migrants were put onto buses and moved away ahead of a visit from UK Home Secretary Priti Patel earlier this month.

Clare Moseley, founder of the humanitarian charity Care4Calais, said conditions in the French city are as bad as she has seen since 2016 and criticised police tactics.
Calais MP Pierre-Henri Dumont said that he believes there is "no link" between the evictions and attempts to cross the Channel.

He said the huge number of migrants trying to reach the UK is down to "British law and way of life" and said migrants would rather live secretly in the UK than claim asylum in France.

More than 3,100 migrants have made it across the Channel to the UK in 2020, analysis by the Press Association shows.

Ms Moseley, who runs charity Care4Calais, said a safe, legal process for the people in Calais is essential to end what she says is a humanitarian crisis. She also criticised police tactics - including the use of tear gas - and the forced evictions of migrants from the camps where they live. Ms Moseley said: "This policy is cruel and it is counterproductive. It succeeds only in increasing the numbers of people desperate enough to make a dangerous attempt to cross the Channel.
"Priti Patel and the French authorities are only adding to the chaos in the Channel, they have no strategy to protect vulnerable refugees and get control of our borders long term.

"The people in Calais are normal people: doctors, builders, sons and fathers. Terrible things have happened to them, they're fleeing wars, torture and persecution.
"The least we can do is give them a fair hearing and treat them with decency and dignity."
She called on Ms Patel and her counterparts in France to "stop grandstanding" and tackle the root of the problem.

Calais MP Pierre-Henri Dumont said he too noticed a "huge dismantlement" of a migrant camp before Ms Patel's visit.
However, he said that since then migrants have returned to the area in larger numbers.
He added: "To me, there is no link between the dismantlement and the crossings. The huge number of crossings is the result of the British law and way of life, making it easier for the migrants to live in clandestinity in the UK, to work and find a place to live, than in France.

He also defended police actions in the area.
Following their joint visit to Calais on July 12, Ms Patel and new French interior minister Gerald Darmanin agreed to create a Franco-British intelligence cell in an effort to reduce the numbers of small boats making it to the UK.
On the same day, a record number of migrants made it to the UK, with at least 180 making it across the Channel.
Crumpet said…
@WBBM,

Lily Allen beat her to it. Allen apologized on behalf of my country to the refugees in Calais in 2016. I don't think she ever housed a migrant in her house either, as was the suggestion for all to do, at the time. So, all is forgiven!
Maneki Neko said…
Looks like MM needs to be careful with her lawsuits in the US. I've just seen a comment on the DM about the judicial council of California and the vexatious litigant list.

From stimmel-law.com:


The cost of litigation in the United States can be extreme and even a party that defends a case and wins often faces significant damages in the time lost and the expense of the defense. It is not uncommon for even a simple civil case to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend.

Thus, a party who is repeatedly sued by the same party and wins still suffers significant costs and there are persons who are prone to file suit, often representing themselves, on a repeated basis. Some people are addicted to litigation. Others are convinced that they are right and will keep finding excuses to sue if they can. Often they are insolvent and thus represent themselves and get special waivers of filing fees from the courts because they are indigent.


Obviously, this point of law didn't feature in an episode of Suits.
Yes, they seem to be litigious.

They have not sued the same person more than once.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sugar/diabetes

As far as I can see, it's not limited to suing the same person more than once. I think it means five litigations in seven years. The way she's going she might well end up that way.

There is also the psychology of serial litigants (article from and.news):

People who file numerous lawsuits, known as serial litigants, are often motivated by the hopes of winning lots of money or obtaining justice. And according to forensic psychiatrists, in some cases they're also motivated by deep psychological reasons -- paranoia, the need for attention or a belief that only in court will their perceived suffering be validated.

Also from a medical website:

These individuals wish to have their alleged suffering, humiliation and victimization witnessed on the stage of litigation. Their common fantasy is that unspecified “others” (the jury, initially the Court itself) will sympathize with suffering and offer some sort of illusoryl vindication and redemption. Narcissists are mentioned in this context.

Maybe something to consider.
Co-incidence coming so soon after the recent book serialisation?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53617966

James Murdoch, the younger son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch, has resigned from the board of News Corporation citing "disagreements over editorial content".

In a filing to US regulators, he said he also disagreed with some "strategic decisions" made by the company.

The exact nature of the disagreements was not detailed.

But Mr Murdoch has previously criticised News Corp outlets, which include the Wall Street Journal, for climate change coverage.


[...]

News Corp also owns The Times, The Sun and The Sunday Times in the UK, as well as a stable of Australian newspapers, including The Australian, The Daily Telegraph and The Herald Sun.
@ Maneki Neko
@Sugar/diabetes

Of litigants such as MM:

Even if she had come across this in Suits,she would not perceive it as applying to her. The `logic' of her actions may be incomprehensible to us but she has a consistent world view which makes sense according to her reasoning, even if nobody else can see the sense of it.

These individuals wish to have their alleged suffering, humiliation and victimization witnessed on the stage of litigation. Their common fantasy is that unspecified “others” (the jury, initially the Court itself) will sympathize with suffering and offer some sort of illusoryl vindication and redemption

A brilliant assessment.

Unfortunately, there are cases where a sympathetic juror awards heavy damages in cases of real injury although, IMO, the wrong party may have been sued. I'm thinking of that fairly recent case in the US of the poor chap who had suffered severely from using weedkiller without proper supervision/protection.

It seemed to me that the negligent party was his employer who tolerated mishandling and apparently ignored the manufacturer's warnings as to safe use and protective equipment. UK law is very tight on professional users of herbicides being properly trained and certificated, and on the correct negligent party being identified, under the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Of course, Monsanto had more cash then his employer, so why sue the real culprit if you can get greater damages out of someone else?
Piroska said…
ITV documentaray on Princess Anne is being repeated on Tuesday at 10.45pm
Piroska said…
This is also from the Tommy Lascelles article mentioned by Crumpet
Money, and the things that money buys, were the principal desiderata in Mrs Simpson's philosophy, if not in his, and, when they found that they had been left the Crown without the cash, I am convinced that they agreed, in that interminable telephone conversation, to renounce their plans for a joint existence as private individuals, and to see what they could make out of the Kingship, with the subsidiary prospect of the Queenship for her later on.

The events of the next ten months bear out this supposition; for, throughout them, he devoted two hours to schemes, great and small, by which he could produce money to every one that he devoted to the business of the State.
Mel said…
Their common fantasy is that unspecified “others” (the jury, initially the Court itself) will sympathize with suffering and offer some sort of illusoryl vindication and redemption
.......


Omid has even said that...that once people read this book their eyes would be opened as to the suffering mm has endured since meeting H.

I was expecting examples such as overhearing her being called the n word, or things equally horrendous.

But nope, just a few petty slights which she brought on herself.
Mostly it was a book singing her praise and adoration, it sounds like.
Flowery, adolescent prose. Sounds like a 13 year old wrote it.

And it doesn't answer or address many of the larger questions. Or even the little ones.

Like how did it evolve that she taps him like a dog when she wants behaviour changed. For example, when she wants to walk first when it should be him first she taps his elbow and he immediately acquiesces.

How did that evolve? And who put her in charge anyway? What makes her think that she knows better in these instances? He's had a lifetime of knowing how to do this.
Piroska said…
@KCM1212 Apparently Andrew lobbied the US Govt for a leniency towards
Epstein, reports the Telegraph. Based on unsealed court documents.
I read some time ago that the woman making these allegations had at the age of 14 accused 2 young men of rape. The prosecutor declined to go forward with the charge as she was considered not to be a credible witness. I wonder why so many people consider her to be credible now
Just wondering, do all royal dukedoms have land and a living attached like Cornwall or only some? I thought I remembered reading that Kent did but now I cant find it. It was the one that had the Prince killed in the plane crash in WWII. George?
If they dont what does a royal duke do differently to just a duke?
lucy said…
@piroska Not sure what was alleged to have happened at age 14 (regarding Epstein I do not believe they came into contact until she was 15)

I have read others have corroborated her story, or parts of it. She will always be labeled not credible by opposing parties, maybe the perceived surge in belief has to do with Dershowitz coming under rabid scrutiny as he was the one who tore her up on stand previously. Just my thought, no idea otherwise

While here I must comment on Scobies before and after shot. Wowza . He was previously cute kid what a mess. Curious if he has regret or thinks he looks good now and I wonder if that metamorphosis was done in one failed shot or multiple surgeries? Egads.

Fairy Crocodile said…
@Crumpet, Wild Boar Battle Maid.

MM's donation to the migrants will make her even more unpopular. Most British rightly see illegal migrants as a huge burden on the economy. Now the situation is worsened tenfold because of the damage to the businesses and pressure on the NHS. So illegals are even more unwelcome.

She is so tone deaf it is staggering. I also think she may try to deliberately provoke people to suite her racism agenda.
Teasmade said…
Where has everyone gone?
Teasmade said, Where has everyone gone?

I thought the same! Lol I read comments via email and thought it was me, I then checked to see if there was a new post and there wasn’t. Maybe peeps are busy, or Markled out! Lol ;o)
@Tatty

You might be right. So many law suits I can't keep track.

So, anybody, how many law suits is MeMe involved in right now and against whom?

Thanks in advance
Dallas Alice said…
I’m glad to see Ellen called out. The most interesting thing about her is that she is gay and that’s not terribly interesting anymore.
Dallas Alice said…
I never bought her sugar-sweet exterior. She has crazy eyes. I actually watched her show for quite a while, but the overt glee on her face when pranking employees or guest was a bit disturbing.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Dallas Alice, I firmly believe that pranking people is a very passive-aggressive act. I had an ex bf who used to do things like that -- he actually pushed me in the swimming pool on my birthday, while I was fully clothed and coiffed, not just once but 7-8 times, after I would get changed into some dry clothes. He ruined a lot of my clothes that way.

I didn't hang around long after that. Everyone else who thought it was funny was cut out of my life quickly.
Dallas Alice said…
Oh, @Girl!! Pardon my phrasing, but I’d have to cut a bitch. What an awful thing to do!! Good on you for getting away from that mess.
LavenderLady said…
@Crumpet said...

Hello Nutties,

A great little extract in the DM, of Tommy Lascelles book: King's Counselor: Abdication and War. His description of King Edward, VIII--dim, greedy, zero interest in service to country and empire, could not wait to leave the RF (until he left)...sounds like another more contemporary prince.

I saw that! I immediately read it. I will have to find the book here in the US. I have read many books and seen several films on David and Wallis. Of course the similarities can't be ignored. I wish the RF had taken a harder stance in Mexit but I understand why they didn't with today's PC climate.

What I found really interesting in that article is it was mentioned that David was sterile that is why he never had children and why he suffered from arrested development! That is interesting.

I thought I read somewhere it is rumored that Harry is also sterile. That is why a surrogate was procured for Archie. But then so much is discussed about those two from sophomoric necklaces to feet and toes etc, etc...don't know what's true or not.

Thank you for mentioning that very fascinating piece in today's DM.
Hikari said…
According to the DM, Ellen has signaled to producers that she's 'had enough and is ready to walk away' from her eponymous show.

She can't defend herself against the truth of her nasty behavior anymore, not with myriad celebs who've been on the show piling on on Twitter to share their experiences.

Now there are going to be lawsuits against the perpetrator(s) of the alleged sexual harassment on the set. Ellen's trying to get out of the way.

Her troubles really began since she lied last summer about holding Archie and all his 'tufts of red hair' at Frogmore Cottage . . despite being in a rush to get to the airport to catch her private jet.

Everyone else who has colluded in Meg's lies should have a big helping of what's coming to Ellen. Mr. Perry needs to kick them out of his home, stat. Let them move in with Oprah .. or go to a long-stay motel.
LavenderLady said…
@Teasmade

Where has everyone gone?


I have wondered the same. I am guessing it's holiday season?

At first I thought maybe I put people off because I mentioned I am a person of color (not of our Black community). With some of us older generation POC, it's often the first thing we think. Sad but true. Things are so touchy right now that one wrong word and it can get explosive so if that's the case, I understand completely.

When I received no responses to my posts, I quit posting. I'm back to reading on occasion when I'm have a good day health wise.

I really don't enjoy the banality in the many details on looks, body parts, hair treatments, the nauseating lawsuits etc. so I've been waiting for something really juicy or remotely fresh and interesting!

I've enjoyed the posts lately!

Thanks, Nutties :)
LavenderLady said…
@Dallas Alice,

I’m glad to see Ellen called out. The most interesting thing about her is that she is gay and that’s not terribly interesting anymore.


Someone recently said (I think a on Twitter post) that there are two groups a person cannot say a thing against. One is the Jewish community and the other is White gay males. I am just quoting what I read. I'm going to assume this is in reference to American identity politics. I cannot speak for Britain.

What I found very interesting is Ellen is a perfect example of the second half of that quote.

I'm wondering if it had been Elton John, or another White gay male celebrity, would he be have been singled out and cancelled?

Just curious.


Grisham said…
Of all the lawsuits, Archie is a plaintiff, MM is a plaintiff and isn’t Harry a plaintiff? It’s not just MM suing everyone.

How many lawsuits anyway? In what country?

Archie’s lawsuit was filed in the UK.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Pink Peony -- re: Getting no response sometimes -- been here, gotten that, threw a tantrum of sorts and then apologized. I think if most people are like me, you're flitting in and out of this blog around your life, in my case working from home. Or, like yesterday and today, trying to prep for Hurricane Isaias here in South Florida. Due to start raining/wind blowing in a couple of hours -- hopefully the power stays on for quite a while!

I'll have to respectfully disagree on *banality* as regards the Harkles -- I derive a fiendish sense of laughter and delight at each of their missteps, I'm sorry to say. Having said that, tho, I equally enjoy some of the more cerebral discussions here as well. Quite the mixed bag, which makes this blog all the more interesting, IMO!

@ Teasmade -- Your post reminded me of Pink Floyd -- "Hello (hello ... hello), is there anybody IN there ... :)

Another Nutty pointed something out which I laughed my head off at -- MM constantly appearing in her hideous green outfit, I guess because it's one of the few photos that doesn't require payment of some kind, or something like that -- the Green Hornet! Preying Mantis! Robin Hood! Hahahaha!
Teasmade said…
@Pink: Whatever color you are, even if it IS hot pink : ), I truly doubt we all fled for a few hours because you mentioned that! I'm thinking it's Saturday and everyone is out to the shops (UK), running to Target (US), doing a bit of weeding (?), taking care of an older or younger relative, or any of those things we can't get to during the week if we are lucky enough to still have a job.

It is rare that we go hours with no postings!

I so appreciate that we are all from around the world and all pretty much agree on most of the important points. There are things that don't interest me either, and I just scroll on by, and eventually the conversation turns to something else.

And I ESPECIALLY value input from POC, honestly (although we usually don't know who is who on here) because of, you know, the large part that misdirected accusations of racism have played in this ridiculous drama.
LavenderLady said…
@Mel,
Like how did it evolve that she taps him like a dog when she wants behaviour changed. For example, when she wants to walk first when it should be him first she taps his elbow and he immediately acquiesces.

So funny! But true. Wallis had a similar way of "training" David-along with lurid rumors of her sex techniques she picked up during her Shanghai days (spent in brothels and opium dens)! I suppose the yachting of those days...

So true, The Duch has H very well puppy trained :)

Dallas Alice said…
@Pink Peony- cancel culture is so rampant, no one is safe.
lizzie said…
Tatty wrote:

"Of all the lawsuits, Archie is a plaintiff, MM is a plaintiff and isn’t Harry a plaintiff? It’s not just MM suing everyone."

I think Archie is a plaintiff in only one lawsuit--the one filed in the UK for the pics taken in Canada with Archie or an Archie stand-in dangling from M's front.

Harry is not a party to that suit. Meghan is Archie's "litigation friend." Only one is required. It's a bit odd to me it wasn't Harry given her grins in those photos.

The CA lawsuit doesn't list Archie as a plaintiff, I don't believe.  
Girl with a Hat said…
how she really behaved on the set of Suits. Hint - she was a nightmare!

https://pagesix.com/2020/08/01/meghan-markle-a-diva-from-her-early-days/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
LavenderLady said…
@Teasmade,

@Pink: Whatever color you are, even if it IS hot pink : ), I truly doubt we all fled for a few hours because you mentioned that! I'm thinking it's Saturday and everyone is out to the shops (UK), running to Target (US), doing a bit of weeding (?), taking care of an older or younger relative, or any of those things we can't get to during the week if we are lucky enough to still have a job.

Realistically, I know this, however as I mentioned, it's sad how many older POC think this first off!

I Do see myself as pink:) the color.
Lol...I'ts such a happy color.

I don't concern myself with Meg's color aside from I find it appalling and loathsome she and Harry use it to weaponize against the RF and to victimize herself.

My opinion is in EVERY color she would be what she is. And we know what that is...

LavenderLady said…
@Dallas Alice,
@Pink Peony- cancel culture is so rampant, no one is safe

So true!!
Elona said…
Hello everyone

I have been reading for ages and did not dare post as I am tech useless. I could not resist the comment that in that virulent shade of green maybe she is poison ivy or Peter Pan (she never grew up or matured).

Elona
LavenderLady said…
@Lt. Nyota Uuru

I'll have to respectfully disagree on *banality* as regards the Harkles -- I derive a fiendish sense of laughter and delight at each of their missteps, I'm sorry to say. Having said that, tho, I equally enjoy some of the more cerebral discussions here as well. Quite the mixed bag, which makes this blog all the more interesting, IMO!

Very good point! I suspect I'm crabby and cranky because I'm battling a case of shingles and nothing is funny to me these days.

When I'm feeling better, I'll re-read and get a good guffaw off the zany descriptions of the Duch and her lap dog Lol...

Thanks for the reply. I feel better now:)
LavenderLady said…
@Elona

Hi. A warm welcome!

I LOATHE that green dress. I am sick to the back teeth of the repetitious photos of that monstrous garment Ha ha.

I so agree! The Duch is definitely dealing with some form of arrested development as well as her H.
Maneki Neko said…
@Pink Peony

Don't worry, I don't get responses to my posts very often either. As for you being a POC (I don't like that expression, we’re all ’of colour’!), I didn't know or else had forgotten as have many people on here.

And like you, "I really don't enjoy the banality in the many details on looks, body parts" etc and am also waiting for something really juicy! I guess there's nothing of real interest happening chez H&M right now and we are all suffering from Markle fatigue, hence a scarcity of posts today. Take care.
LavenderLady said…
@Lt. Nyota Uuru

Another Nutty pointed something out which I laughed my head off at -- MM constantly appearing in her hideous green outfit, I guess because it's one of the few photos that doesn't require payment of some kind, or something like that -- the Green Hornet! Preying Mantis! Robin Hood! Hahahaha!

See my reply to @Elona. Great point- the pics are probably freebies. Ugh but those pics! Makes me want to hewey every time I see them.
Sandie said…
The various legal spats the Sussexes have been embroiled in over the last couple of years: 1. They sue over photographs taken of the Cotswold place they were renting. They get a settlement that they supposedly donated. 2. Harry lays a complaint about an article about a cropped photo of him with an elephant that they posted on their IG account. The media outlet is exonerated of any wrongdoing. 3. Harry launches legal action to sue various media outlets for hacking of his phone about 10 years ago. This is bizarre as there already been a court case and some people went to jail. Also, Harry was the person least affected by the hacking. 4. Meghan sues MOS on three counts for publishing a part of a letter to her father. The trial has not started but there have been a couple of pre-trial hearings and she keeps adding more irrevalent evidence and making dramatic statements. 5. Archie sues a photographer over photographs taken and published about 5 months ago. 6. Meghan and Harry sue 100 anons for photographs taken of Archie, supposedly in the backyard of where they are staying, and for waking him up early in the morning. I think helicopters and drones are mentioned but I am not sure if dates are given.
LavenderLady said…
@Maneki Neko,

Yes Markle fatigue and Corona fatique.

Thanks...hugs :)

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Pink Peony -- I'll pretend our incoming hurricane's winds are blowing your (horrible, I know) shingles right off you :)

(Won't be long now, she says nervously, clicking on the Accuweather update site for the 100th time, and watching the cloud cover starting to move in)

We should start a list of all the nicknames for the Harkles -- they're starting to pile up! That's always good for a laugh :)

Ginge and Cringe
Whinge and Whine
Cash and Harry
The Duke and Duchess of Griftershire
Hag and Drag
Eeek and Geek

(Just to name a few!)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Elona -- Hello! :)

Poison Ivy, hahahahaha! Good one ;) So apt! But Harry is the Peter Pan if you ask me, so maybe HE should put on the green outfit ;)
Greek Mom said…
Girl with a Hat said...
how she really behaved on the set of Suits. Hint - she was a nightmare!

Omg, thanks for the link! That article made me chuckle, confirms everything we already knew about Megsie!
Anon said…
@Teasmade Hi
Sheilding ended or paused in the UK today 1st August following lockdown in March recon 2 million people who sheided are allowed out to the shops and to visit family from today I believe ?That's possibly why the blog is quiet todsy.Its my guess anyhow.Augugust 4th Tuesday is MM's birthday WWonder if thecill the planned hoped for hinted at asked for gathering happen?
Richard, Duke of Gloucester (born 1944, about to turn 76, first cousin to the Queen) had an elder brother, William, who was sadly killed in a flying accident in 1972, so it was Richard who became Duke following the subsequent death of Father in 1974. William was quite a dashing figure whereas the young Richard, say at 19, looked a bit of a geek to me. Still, it was an era of unfortunate spectacles! William had been very important to Charles and I've heard that`our` William was named after him.

Richard read architecture at Cambridge - I remember one of his contemporaries saying, after Finals, that the entire class had been optimistic about their results because Richard wouldn't be allowed to fail so the rest of them expected to pass! Rather unkind, especially as he did subsequently earn his crust as an architect.

He inherited Barnwell Manor, which came into the family from his mother's side (Scottish aristocracy), along with the ducal title, when his father, Henry Duke of Gloucester died. This has an estate but financial straits mean they have had to `let it go' (whether it's been sold or just rented out, isn't clear; I suspect the former.) He and his wife Birgitte live in KP.

The Kents, too, were affected by an air crash, in the previous generation, the present Duke becoming such before his 7th birthday.

`The Old Duke of Kent',as my mother always called him, (Prince George - not to be confused with King George VI [that was his regnal name, originally baptised Albert, known as Bertie, like his grandfather who became Edward. Are you still with me?]) died in the war.

He was a rather dubious character, like our 'Arry in an embarrassing number of ways. His death, on a flight bound for Iceland, raised all sorts of questions, rather like Diana's.

The Duke of Kent performed Royal duties as well as having an Army career for over 20 years. He had a house, Coppins, in Buckinghamshire which was eventually sold. No mention of it being an `estate' as such. Now lives at Wren House in grounds of KP.

I believe both dukes pay rent to live at KP.

There is also the Duchy of Lancaster - HM is Duke of Lancaster, just as she is Duke of Normandy! See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lancaster for a better explanation that I can give.

It's actually administered by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a government post.


That's about it.
SwampWoman said…
@Pink Peony At first I thought maybe I put people off because I mentioned I am a person of color (not of our Black community). With some of us older generation POC, it's often the first thing we think. Sad but true. Things are so touchy right now that one wrong word and it can get explosive so if that's the case, I understand completely.

When I received no responses to my posts, I quit posting. I'm back to reading on occasion when I'm have a good day health wise.


Meh. I don't care about race, I care about character. I'm more involved with getting ready(ish) for the hurricane about to hit (not that I expect it to do much in the way of damage, but it is a good exercise for checking hurricane preps), plus trying to avoid the WuFlu while caring for grandkids. I really don't care too much about the Gruesome Twosome other than their siphoning money off for themselves that has been donated to help people of far less means than they possess donated from people of far less means.
Since this is a relatively quiet thread I thought I would post this from today’s Air Mail:

Whine and Cheese
Does Finding Freedom really lay bare all the bitterness and infighting that drove Meghan and Harry to quit the royal family”
By Stuart Heritage


Part I

The amazing thing about Finding Freedom, the new and probably-not-unauthorized biography of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, is that it miraculously manages to reinforce every single one of your existing beliefs about the couple, no matter what they happen to be.

A fan? The book does everything in its power to demonstrate how thoroughly unwelcome the royal family and Buckingham Palace staff made Meghan feel, with courtiers sniping behind her back and Harry’s own brother being “snobbish” and “condescending” when it came to discussing her.

Examples of this behavior come thick and fast in the excerpts that have recently been published in The Times. Kate Middleton apparently once ran into Meghan, before she married Harry, on the grounds of Kensington Palace; they discovered they were both going shopping on the same street, but Kate didn’t offer Meghan a ride. Observers noticed that it seemed as if the various royal households would attempt to undermine each other by scheduling conflicting social-media posts and events. One member of the palace staff referred to the Sussexes as “the squeaky third wheel” of the monarchy. If you’re of a certain disposition, then this book will underline precisely how Harry and Meghan’s break from the royal family was less a decision and more a complete emotional necessity.

But then again, this is a book—filled with such specific information that it appears to have been written with the support of its subjects, if not their full cooperation—called Finding Freedom. As Piers Morgan has pointed out in the Daily Mail, intentionally or otherwise it implicitly draws a line between itself and Nelson Mandela’s autobiography, Long Walk to Freedom. One of those books is about a man who spent 27 unimaginable years toiling away at hard labor on Robben Island. The other is about two rich people who decided to move out of a nice palace in England and into a nice mansion in Los Angeles without gaining or losing any tangible responsibilities. You could argue that a closer comparison could be found in Finding Nemo, in which a young clown fish leaves his family and everything immediately goes wrong.

The other key text when discussing Finding Freedom is Andrew Morton’s Diana: Her True Story, the gossip-filled 1992 biography that served as Princess Diana’s method of severing all ties with the royal family. That book became a sensation for its blockbuster revelations of alleged infidelity and attempted suicide by the future king of England’s wife, putting the royal family under more strain than at any time in living memory.
Part II

But, again, it isn’t a fair comparison. Finding Freedom has none of the shock of Morton’s book—one of its biggest revelations is that Harry issued a statement to the press while Prince Charles was trying to publicize a trip to the Middle East, and it made Prince Charles feel “disappointed”—plus, it’s about two figures who are now, in terms of the monarchy, utterly irrelevant. The Times ran three days of exclusive extracts from the book last week; the well ran dry so quickly that by day three it was resigned to printing descriptions of the wallpaper in a bar where Harry and Meghan once had a drink. So what’s the point of the book? The extracts are so sympathetic that they seem like a clear attempt by Harry and Meghan to show the world who they really are. But that can’t be the case, because this is a couple so fixated on maintaining their own privacy that surely they’d never stoop so low as to help out with a tawdry tell-all book. Or maybe this is a gentle reminder to the world that they’ve both still got the unqualified star power that, as the book incredibly claims, “might eclipse that of the royal family.”

Whatever the intention, it seems likely that history will look back at Finding Freedom as a document of what gets left behind when you remove the royalty from members of the royal family. If the paucity of the extracts are any indication, the answer is not an awful lot.
Elderflower said…
Craving a Martini said
Just wondering, do all royal dukedoms have land and a living attached like Cornwall or only some? I thought I remembered reading that Kent did but now I cant find it. It was the one that had the Prince killed in the plane crash in WWII. George?
If they dont what does a royal duke do differently to just a duke?

Wild Boar Battle-maid has beaten me to some of this, but here's my take on your question.
The Duchy of Cornwall supports the heir to the throne and the Duchy of Lancaster supports the Queen. I think that they make up a lot of their protocols as they go along. At the moment royal dukes are family members, legitimate descendants of a monarch. The Duke of Richmond is descended from the illegitimate son of King Charles II of England and never been royal but has a nice racecourse.
Girl with a Hat said…
those five friends don't seem to want to testify for Meghan.

https://twitter.com/karenstonehous3/status/1289608382588960768

she will lose because her friends don't seem to want to testify
SwampWoman said…
Oh, my, so sorry about the awkward sentence structure. I have two grandchildren hanging off of me plaintively asking "Do you REALLY have to do that right now? We want you to play with us!"
CatEyes said…
@Lt. Uhura said...
"Poison Ivy, hahahahaha! Good one ;) So apt! But Harry is the Peter Pan if you ask me, so maybe HE should put on the green outfit ;)"

Oh but I think Harry DID wear green...wasn't that the time when he had a stupid green lining to his jacket to match her 'Green Giant' dress (also 'preying mantis dress) she had on that day in question. How juvenile, like they were two teens going to the prom in matching colors.
HappyDays said…
jessica said…
I think Meghan really started struggling with reality when she met Harry.

@jessica: Not a lot of people seem to know about this, but when Meghan was on Suits, she used to haul around a red-headed doll she named “Harry.” (Im not kidding!) To me, it just adds another link to Meghan being a royal family groupie, especially her obsession with Diana. When she was on Suits, she was one asked in an interview who she would prefer of Diana’s two sobs, and she replied “Harry, I guess.”

It also gives credence to the theory many have about Meghan, myself included, that as soon as the ink on her divorce papers was dry in February 2014, she put her plot to target and stalk Harry into action by using her Canadian connections to polish her worldwide humanitarian credentials while working those same contacts to move herself into Harry’s UK social group.

Here’s a URL to an article in The Mirror with a photo of Meghan on the Suits set with the doll she named Harry, although the photo caption doesn’t say its name. Sorry, but I do not know how to create a working link on this blog, so you’ll have to copy and paste it.

I think it’s creepy a woman in het 30s would be hauling a doll around with her like that, and double creepy she named it Harry.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-larks-set-suits-12440740
jessica said…
Of course her friends don’t want to testify. What an embarrassment! Meghan AND I decided to lie about her dad and the media. Lol. Forever it will tarnish their reputations. How funny. Now it makes sense Meghan is trying to prevent the court from calling them up to stand. Nothing to do with privacy, everything to do with reputations.

It’s incredible
Meghan didn’t think people would have anything to
Do with this case.
CatEyes said…
@Pink Peony

Welcome! I love your avatar, how appropriate, two beautiful peonies, one of my favorite flowers.

I would have posted something during that 2 hour lull but lately I just haven't really felt like I had anything to offer compared to everyone else. Maybe people are preoccupied since its the first of the month, I know the stores are real busy (as I just got back).
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Maisie said…
@KCM1212
8/1 12:12

What I find really funny is that Doria even had a Wikipedia page that had to be updated when MM and Harry went public with their relationship. She certainly was a nobody that no-one would even be curious about.

Did MM instruct someone to create a page for her mother and when was it first created?

There is an interesting dynamic between these two. Thomas was a GIVER and I am wondering if Doria withheld affection/attention, and then there was that time in prison. I suspect she is the 'nature' contribution to the NPD where Thomas was the 'nurture". Is MM still trying to connect and get approval from an absent and self-interested mother?
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties,

In relation to the Ellen comments, The Sun is saying James Corden will be the new host! A white cis gender guy, no less--but he did snag an invite to the Harry Markle wedding! I would have thought with all the talk from Hollywood about how we have to do more better, a POC would have been picked.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Cat Eyes -- Ah, yes, I'd forgotten about that stupid dress-up stunt Harry pulled with the green lining of his jacket -- what a putz!

@Wullie'sBucket -- I guess I haven't been around long enough to be aware of which posters have left and which have stayed -- I do like it when lurkers come out of the shadows tho, lots of nice new people to converse with --

Tho I agree with you that the format is a bit awkward as far as actual conversing goes. Sites that have replies built in to the original post make it much easier. Still, if this format prevents trolls (which it pretty much does), that's a good thing.

You said, My current favorite topics are the recent books published and the lawsuits. Not only have they served to uncover much about this Megalomania Megxit Mess, but they are also acting as the impetus for the revelation and leaking of even more information. Altogether the books and suits may be the Kraken event we've been fervently hoping for!

Agreed! Not to mention the fact that I read somewhere (LSA?) that there have been some high-profile Hollywood events the Harkles were somehow not invited to, ;) I hope they drown in their stupid lawsuits!

SwampWoman said…
That doll confirms to me something that I have suspected because it IS Hollywood, after all. She was using sympathetic magic. (I have read about it is all.) There is a lot of voodoo and other magical arts practiced in our state with the connection to the Caribbean.

Good luck preparing for the hurricane, south Florida people! (Our preps in centralish to north Florida include grabbing the surf boards and heading for the beach, I ain't gonna lie!)
LavenderLady said…
@Happy Days
Not a lot of people seem to know about this, but when Meghan was on Suits, she used to haul around a red-headed doll she named “Harry.” (Im not kidding!) To me, it just adds another link to Meghan being a royal family groupie, especially her obsession with Diana. When she was on Suits, she was one asked in an interview who she would prefer of Diana’s two sobs, and she replied “Harry, I guess.”

Whoa! Sweet Lord of mine now that's juicy! She had a mini me Harry doll...crazy AF!
Now she has two (or three counting Archie, if that's true). In any event the Harry doll must be stuffed with sawdust not unlike the human version.

I agree with Wullie's Bucket. Harry the doll looks like a ventriloquist dummy which is rather fitting since she rules what he thinks and says. What a crap show...



@Teasmade Hi
Sheilding ended or paused in the UK today 1st August following lockdown in March recon 2 million people who sheided are allowed out to the shops and to visit family from today I believe ?That's possibly why the blog is quiet todsy.Its my guess anyhow.Augugust 4th Tuesday is MM's birthday WWonder if thecill the planned hoped for hinted at asked for gathering happen?

Makes perfect sense about lock down being lifted today. Everyone wants out of the house!

@swampWoman,
Meh. I don't care about race, I care about character. I'm more involved with getting ready(ish) for the hurricane about to hit (not that I expect it to do much in the way of damage, but it is a good exercise for checking hurricane preps), plus trying to avoid the WuFlu while caring for grandkids.

Lt. Nyota Uhura
@Pink Peony -- I'll pretend our incoming hurricane's winds are blowing your (horrible, I know) shingles right off you :)

(Won't be long now, she says nervously, clicking on the Accuweather update site for the 100th time, and watching the cloud cover starting to move in)

We should start a list of all the nicknames for the Harkles -- they're starting to pile up! That's always good for a laugh :)

Ginge and Cringe
Whinge and Whine
Cash and Harry
The Duke and Duchess of Griftershire
Hag and Drag
Eeek and Geek

Though I like all the names these are my faves:

Cash and Harry
The Duke and Duchess of Griftershire LOL!

I feel for you guys. I can't even imaging myself awaiting a hurricane though I will take even a hurricane blowing these shingles off! I'm miserable! I will sigh a prayer for you two and any others on here waiting for the hurricane. Hugs.

@CatEyes

Thank you! :)

I hope I didn't miss anyone. I'm signing off now. Happy posting Nutties :)



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Hi I lurk daily and post extremely rarely. I think this is a slow time as most are at least trying to have some semblance of a vacation plus the gruesome twosome are not doing much except litigating the shite out of everyone. You missed a description I like of these idiots. Common and wealth. He he.
SwampWoman said…
Pink Peony, I had great relief when I had shingles from taking L-lysine (an amino acid) and bathing the pustules with organic apple cider vinegar with the mother in it. It was recommended to me by another shingles sufferer who gave me the holistic website that he learned of it on, and durned if it didn't make me so much more comfortable. Before that, it felt like my skin was on fire and I couldn't bear to wear a bra or anything more confining than a loose T-shirt which pretty much precluded me from appearing in public (grin).
Hikari said…
@Crumpet

In relation to the Ellen comments, The Sun is saying James Corden will be the new host! A white cis gender guy, no less--but he did snag an invite to the Harry Markle wedding! I would have thought with all the talk from Hollywood about how we have to do more better, a POC would have been picked.

I will have to check out that article, but I'm not sure I believe this. James already has a very successful gig as host of the The Late, Late Show (he took over for Craig Ferguson in 2014). Daytime TV is considered a demotion. Unless JC is going to pull a Seacrest and do both shows. Does the article say?
Crumpet said…
@Hikari,

The articles goes on to say, "could be" and then "Corden was seen as the long term successor long before the scandal hit..." (whatever that means). Maybe he likes the hours better, even if it is a demotion... Who knows!
Mel said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…

@Cat Eyes -- Ah, yes, I'd forgotten about that stupid dress-up stunt Harry pulled with the green lining of his jacket -- what a putz!


That was soooooo stupid! That strong emerald green lining looked terrible with the light blue suit fabric.

Hardly looked regal.

Too bad that they didn't have any royal dressers to help them with color choices.
Haha.

Preferably the lining should not have been green at all. But it absolutely had to be green, then it should have been a very, very light green. Or else the suit fabric needed to be a very, very dark blue.

Think she did it on purpose? To make him look dumb and her the shining star?
Seems like a pretty passive aggressive move like she might pull.

It often seems that she will look fairly put together and he'll look like a hot mess.

She probably told him it's no big deal, don't dress up for it, and then she shows up dressed to the nines.

Didn't he used to dress up decently for royal appearances?
Mel said…
Pink Peony...

Also some good names just for her out there...

Megtoinette (my personal favorite)

Duchess Patron of Hot Button Issues
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Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/yankeewally2/status/1289672693000933386

ha ha.
Crumpet said, The Sun is saying James Corden will be the new host! A white cis gender guy, no less--but he did snag an invite to the Harry Markle wedding!

He was invited as their MC at their reception. I can’t stand the man and know few Brits that do. He’s too much up his own bottom and a one trick pony who just isn’t funny. The Duo have an odd sense of humour with a liking for shallow types like themselves.
Crumpet said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

It sounds like James is another Ellen, then!
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8583967/Queen-scolded-Prince-Harry-using-bad-language-closest-aide.html

The real story about the tiara - Meghan just showed up at BP and demanded to see the tiara, and when she wasn't given access, Harry used foul language towards Angela Kelly.
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties,

Saw in the DM the picture of Wills, Kate, and kids (so cute) holidaying in Tresco (looks marvelous)! They are staycationing to help out the UK tourism industry, so the article says. Meanwhile, Harry talks about some 'Travesty" thing from a room in LA--while Megah wants a birthday bash somewhere nice, to get away from the horrors of a free mansion on an LA hilltop.

I remember reading that Hikari wants to visit Yellowstone one day and I think WBBM has probably visited some really interesting places. Anyone going on holiday this summer? Or, have fond memories of a past holiday or a future post Corona holiday wish?
Sharon said…
Sharon aka Poodle 12 here

@Lt Uhura: You forgot

Woke and Broke
Ginge and Cringe

(Still thinking, there were so many great monikers...)
Crumpet said, It sounds like James is another Ellen, then!

You got it in one! Lol He’s a legend in his own mind. Lol
Crumpet said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Oh, thanks for link to another version to the Tiaragate events. Fascinating!
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@Girl with a hat

Contrary to previous reports, Harry's fury was not about which tiara Meghan was allowed to wear – but about access to it.

This is interesting. And it makes me wonder about the credibility of other stories in circulation. I’ve read over and over again about how Meghan demanded the emerald tiara—but now we learn that isn’t true. This doesn’t make her or Harry’s demanding behavior any more excusable, but the misinformation sure muddies the water.
Thanks WBBM and Elderflower

Didnt know about Lancaster. Thanks for the link. Will check it out.

So basically there are 2 duchies set up to make income for specific purposes neither of which H will ever have access to. So the only way he can make money from being a Duke is to sell himself.

@ Golden Retriever
Love the article especially the comparison to Nemo. It really fits. Dumb youngster who thought he new everything about the big bad world and would be fine in it.
@Crumpet

Saw in the DM the picture of Wills, Kate, and kids (so cute) holidaying in Tresco (looks marvelous)!

That is a lovely photo of the Cambridges, but it was not taken recently. It would have been nice to see one of them in Tresco, though.
Unknown said, Speaking of blogs being quiet and responses not received, I have a question.

What is the usual blog etiquette if another poster addresses you? Isn't it correct form to respond and acknowledge that person? Otherwise, that person may indeed think they are being ignored for some unknown or upsetting reason as Pink Peony contemplated.



Once you’ve been here a while you notice a lot of comments go unanswered or unresponded to. It’s not personal, it’s just how it is. I have comments emailed to me, it allows me to follow the flow of subjects discussed and comments made. Even then the comments build up and more often than not, I just don’t have time to read them all.

When there were far fewer posters, it was far more intimate and the conversation jogged along but this was before Nutty changed from embedded comments to this format. It allowed far more posters to comment, but it doesn’t allow a direct reply to a comment. Now it’s helpful to include the bloggers name and comment you’re addressing when replying etc .

I personally preferred when the blog was more intimate, there seemed to be far more blog etiquette then too, which I don’t see much of now sadly. :o/
lucy said…
@Unknown I think this format makes it rather difficult to personally reply. Especially so if you aren't around for a day and then are met with 200+ comments. I think if someone tags you, a response is polite but I just tagged you yet I am not seeking personal reply so I am obviously of no help whatsoever :-)

I have been known to ask a question then take off for the day and it isnt always easy to rejoin and thank someone for reply 100 comments later, or rather it seems weird

Like this post for example I just said something to allow me to read the conversation through email and that was after trying to keep in the loop without having said nothing and reading via the web

I think alot of us read all comments and shy away from engaging as it has been already said. Like Meghan with that doll oh my gosh that is crazy! But that is all i got so me just posting the above seems like me just looking at my self speak, doesnt mean I didn't appreciate the share I just have nothing to add to it

I would like to say to poster who felt she was ignored for being PoC that is very sad to me. That is certainly nothing I have ever seen displayed here. Yet again this format is rough for me on phone I can't scroll through 100+ comments to address you by name and for that I apologize
lucy said…
@crumpet funny you should mention holiday. I am going stir crazy here and waiting for Europe to open borders as I cannot wait to get back to Slovakia. I went twice last year and I love it! I will even go in cold if need be, looking like it. I also too was just looking at flights to California, I would like to stop in and see family for few days. I know it is probably wrong but I desperately need away
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