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Sigh. Meghan and Harry talk politics again

I almost hate to make a post about Prince Harry's latest venture into the arena of woke politics.

Speaking to young Commonwealth leaders in a video released today, Harry focused on the negative aspects of the countries' shared history, saying that while many people had "done an incredible job of acknowledging the past and trying to right those wrongs, but I think we all acknowledge there is so much more to do."

It's all so tiresome, and reminds me of a McDonald's employee campaigning against the beef and french fry industries.

What pays your bills?

Dear Harry: the fruits of those historical wrongs have paid for, and continue to pay for, everything you've received your entire life.

I'd have a lot more respect for your wokeness if you renounced your income from Dad and your inheritance from Mom, both of which are at least indirectly related to the profits of colonialism.

You can't change the past, Harry, but you can change the future.

Stop paying for private jets and cocaine with money from what you call "endemic institutionalized racism" and then we can talk.

Like Nancy Reagan

Meanwhile, the video shows Meg looking at Harry adoringly, a bit like Nancy Reagan used to look at "Ronnie" back in the day.

Meg told the attendees at the conference that it was "not just in the big moments, it's in the quiet moments where racism and unconscious bias lies and thrives."

Perhaps Meg should make a commitment to a bias-free future by pledging that her son, Archie, will attend only state schools - nothing private - and that she and Harry will choose a school with a majority nonwhite student body.

After all, the Commonwealth is majority nonwhite.

Is this impactful?

The question is, are Harry and Meg really convincing anyone to change their point of view on historical injustices?

When people really do take a moment to examine a long-held point of view, it's usually because someone they respect has urged them to do so. 

Someone like David Attenborough or Dolly Parton. Someone known for talent, kindness, and a long career of good works. Someone not like Meghan Markle.

When Harry and Meg speak out on the issues, it always seems part of a plan to make themselves look better - not to make the issue itself look better.

All they seem to have achieved with their latest statements is increased profits for the Mail Online; the article about the Commonwealth video has 15,000 comments right now.


Comments

Unknown said…
Thanks Nutty :) Anyone else notice Meg made sure she was dead center in the video. I think that's the reason she looks sharper in pics/video as opposed to fuzzy JCMH.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I am in despair and feel helpless.

I don't care what will happen to Harry but his s**t is damaging a very good cause - the Commonwealth. What inequalities and problems in it the idiots want us to apologize for? Commonwealth is a VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION of independent states, it started in 1931 and it works to improve cooperation, economic development and social programs for the members. His drivel applies that UK and other western countries in the Commonwealth did not treat other countries fairly, which is a damaging lie which destroys the very idea of the Commonwealth. Nobody forces anybody to be a member in it. The simple fact that Harry is allowed to spill such poison on a good cause shows how monumentally royals screwed up the situation.

I came to the conclusion that the 93 years old woman on the throne doesn't control things any more. She lost it and her sycophantic surroundings do not have the guts to admit it and do what is necessary to take control back from the train wreck.
I hoping, praying this is the nail in the coffin for this duo and the royal family finally says no more.

Just a post do I can read comments via email. ;o)
Unknown said…
As a person who takes racism and feminism seriously, I do not appreciate H&M using it to sell an image of themselves that they cultivate for profits. I despise faux-manitarians. As I mentioned in the last thread, they have no right to be political influencers of any kind unless they forfeit all their ties to the BRF.
Good Lord, these two are tiresome.I am guessing that the agreement they concluded with the BRF in January, which says their position will be reviewed after one year, also includes the condition that PC will give the duo an allowance during that year and that they will be allowed to keep their titles. And in return, did they promise to stay out of politics and not do anything to embarrass the family? If so, they are not keeping to their word. TQ and PC know that cutting them off completely and stripping them of their titles would look petty and vindictive, but they really are abusing that.
You'd be a lot more convincing of your pointing out the evils of colonialism if you gave up your titles. After all, they are huge reminders of what isn't woke.
Maneki Neko said…
Slightly OT but my husband reckons Harry in his video looks like one the two RAF pilots captured during the Gulf War.
Humor Me said…
I too hope this video-babble from H&M is the final straw for HMTQ and The Firm. In my humble experience as a commoner, one is entitled to one's opinion in private conversation. But one does not issue statements that could (operative word - could) reflect on one's employer, or on one's social connection (as a a volunteer group or benevolent organization) or one's church. H&M just did this - the Queen is the official spokesperson for.....the Commonwealth. If their words do not align with HMTQ, they should be disavowed.

I have the popcorn ready!
Hikari said…
@Fairy Crocodile

I am in despair and feel helpless.

I don't care what will happen to Harry but his s**t is damaging a very good cause - the Commonwealth. What inequalities and problems in it the idiots want us to apologize for? Commonwealth is a VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION of independent states, it started in 1931 and it works to improve cooperation, economic development and social programs for the members. His drivel applies that UK and other western countries in the Commonwealth did not treat other countries fairly, which is a damaging lie which destroys the very idea of the Commonwealth. Nobody forces anybody to be a member in it. The simple fact that Harry is allowed to spill such poison on a good cause shows how monumentally royals screwed up the situation.

I came to the conclusion that the 93 years old woman on the throne doesn't control things any more. She lost it and her sycophantic surroundings do not have the guts to admit it and do what is necessary to take control back from the train wreck.


I haven't seen today's video . . not sure I can bear to without losing the lunch I just ate.

Just shaking my head over and over that things have come to this pass for the RF. I'm sure back in January when they drafted Megxit, the Queen and everyone else hoped that the worst was over and the the Sussex insurrection had been put down.

Let us be clear: that is what this is, an openly defiant act of insurrection from two people who owe their support still to monies coming from the very institution they are flagrantly not only disrespecting but seeming to want to destroy.

Meghan is not a British citizen, and so the term 'treason' does not apply to her. Sedition, perhaps, since she's still happy to take money from the Bank of Charles and flaunt that Duchess title. But Harry, Harry . . .Let's just say that if he were the grandson of ER I, he'd have spent the last six months in the Tower of London and have an appointment with the executioner, if he'd not already had his head separated from his shoulders. Persons closer to the Queen than a sixth-in-line grandson have been executed for less insult to the monarch than Harry and his bint are now giving.

I think the courtiers are sheltering ER from the worst of the Sussex behavior. Surely even the tolerance of an indulgent grandmother has its limits? Perhaps ER is really failing? They need to move up the plan for Charles to assume the running of state on her 95th birthday by a year then--now. If the future King Charles III is to have a prayer of peace or respect in his reign, he must confront the distasteful task of essentially disowning his own kid. No more financial support from any Duchy money. No more titles, other than the bare 'Prince' he was born with. Let Harry's new woke celeb friends look out for all his needs. He's a grown man of nearly 36. He wants to go his own way? Let him.

Do they hesitate to cut the duo off because they have a vulnerable child? Putting up with such blatant, continuous mockery, disrespect and full-out lies being told in the world media about them is incomprehensible otherwise.

abbyh said…

I remember Nancy Reagan and read her autobiography. It was interesting. Some nice points Nutty.

But I want to point out the bit about our child will go to schools where his apparent skin color will put in the minority. Now how is that going to happen given where they are looking to buy a house or at least live? That kind of public school is not probably going to be anywhere nearby.

Reminds me of when the Carters put their daughter in the local public school (think not great inner city school). The Clinton's on the other hand, made a decision as a family to send their daughter Sidwell Friends.

@Fairy, I know that feeling well. There was absolutely no heed to history, simply the naive belief that Commonwealth countries are victims of a racist Empire. Also, taking anything out of temporal context is plain absurd. She is very articulate though and I fear the undereducated will hang on to her every word. All I can ask is: WHERE is our Queen in all of this?
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Lighthealer Astrid

Yes indeed, where is our Queen in all that? The Harkles attack the free press, brand the whole country racist, claim the royal family gagged them and refused to support them, they spill poison about Kate, they push unsubstantiated declarations about their own positive impact on the British economy, they get involved in shady financial transaction (where is the Lion King three million?), they even imply other members of the royal family are allowed to do what they aren't, and worst of all, they rush into politics at the most sensitive time in the USA election year. Now they spill crap about Commonwealth too.

And the Queen is all benevolence and contented silence. She takes no action whatsoever.
I greatly disappointed by this diamond clad figurehead. This is the situation that needs solution, not puffed up cheeks.
@Wullie’s Bucket

Re the LCC book, mine was shipped by Waterstone’s almost two weeks ago. The tracking info states that it has been in the US for one week!!
Still has not been delivered. I’m afraid it may not get through customs until the US version is released.
I believe the inertia of the RF re the Harkles is rooted in their fear of being accused of racism by M and JHFNAP. Nothing more, nothing less.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Golden Retriever.

In this case I am sure the royal family may find a great solace as they capsize that their wise policy spared them a direct accusation from Markle.

They have already been accused of exactly this indirectly by the Harkles. So good luck to the Palace in their further cowardice.

By doing nothing they choose the worst possible route. Stephan Zweig once said: "The most deadly way in politics is half-way". The royals chose half-way with Harkles and it will come to bite them.
CookieShark said…
Thank you Nutty for highlighting my first thought after seeing this headline: so stop taking the money!

Back in January, H&M were set to fully support HMTQ and have a progressive new role for the Crown. I believe the RF drew a line in the sand and said you can't be Royals and merch on the side. After this they went burn your house down crazy.

Speaking of houses, they are not living in their own house, who pays their bills? Who has given MM the limelight she could never generate in the States? I do not think they will do well as paid speakers because all they do is criticize others. I feel depressed after listening to them.
Hikari said…
@Golden

I believe the inertia of the RF re the Harkles is rooted in their fear of being accused of racism by M and JHFNAP. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree, but their non-action is tardy to say the least . . . she has already lobbed that grenade and continues to lob it. Ever since the RF gave the Sussex duo what they said they wanted and let them go, MM has been gearing up to lob the R bomb. We've been listening to it come from her camp now for months.

Everything the RF sought to avoid by acquiescing to this marriage on Markle's terms was all for nought--they gave her everything she wanted and she STILL accused them of being cruel, bullies and the dreaded 'R' word. There's really nothing left in her quiver now except to claim that some males in the RF--Charles, Andrew . . William, even, sexually abused her. She's accused her own father, so she's not above that. I can just about see that coming, particularly if Charles grows a late pair and announces that he's cutting off their money. Markle will concoct a tale. Watch for it.

Meg's unleashed the 'R' word despite all evidence to our eyes that the RF bent over backwards in every way possible to make Harry's biracial bride welcome. Meghan got privileges as a fiancee and new wife that no one ever had before, not even the future Queen Consorts. So in my opinion, they have nothing left to lose now. She calls them heartless racists on the daily. She's baiting them. Time to unleash the Kraken of all the receipts the family's got on her.

Puds said, Then Prince Charles comes out also in DM and says he plans to -"dampen a sense of entitlement" to housing and other perks among minor members of the firm. Thought he might be calling Harry and Megan out as they seem to be the only ones making entitled demands but would Prince Charles refer to Harry as a minor Royal?

Charles needs to act now not when he’s King. As for referring to Harry as a minor royal. We have no idea who Prince Charles is referring to. However, Harry and Megsy are no longer working royals, so they’re very much on the peripherals. Once William’s children are old enough to be working royals, Harry (Megsy if she’s still hanging on) will automatically become a more minor royal.
KCM1212 said…
I'm a big fan of the Queen and I like Charles, but if the pair of them can't handle a pair of twits with delusions of grandeur, they need to bring in help. And that is probably William. He is the one who will be dealing with the fallout from these two for The whole of his own reign most probably.

Between this and the photo of two sexual predators laughing it up on the throne of the British Monarch, they have never looked more ineffectual, unless it was the week of Diana's death. And even then, they may have seemed cold, even uncaring, but they did not look ridiculous.

The Queen may feel that she shouldn't move on the Harkles before the year is out, but she must remove them from the Commonwealth role at least. This is the second time they have used he QCT to showcase their politics. A message on support of BLM was tweeted from the Trust by Meghan and Harry (and later removed, I believe) and now this.

(https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/prince-harry-meghan-markle-queens-183300231.html)

The Queen must:
- Remove them from the QCT immediately
- They must create their own social media accounts. Piggybacking on charities accounts need to stop. They need to be accountable for their own messages.
- They must stop using British charities for PR.
- The funding from Charles must stop, or at least be paid for specific, approved bills. Rent, medical, food, security, and car maintainance. The amounts shall be set in advance.
No more paying for PR or lawsuits. Charles is spending money damaging himself and his family.
- No more anonymously sourced press. BP must make arrangements with the papers to stop those articles if they can. There has to be something they can do, at least in Britain. It's very simple No source=No story. If course, pulling the funding will lessen the barrage.

Andrew. He lied to the Queen about the photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and Kevin Sperry sitting on the thrones of HM and PP and laughing. He told her it didn't exist. She has got to do something to separate herself from him. He has made a mockery of everything she has worked for. Exile?

Magatha Mistie said…

Birachel and her bifacial bias, again...
KCM1212 said…
,*Kevin Spacey
Spacey!!
KCM1212 said…
Wish we could say "bye bye" @ Magatha!
Fairy Crocodile said…
@KCM 1212

"two sexual predators laughing it up on the throne of the British Monarch, (royals) have never looked more ineffectual... And even then, they may have seemed cold, even uncaring, but they did not look ridiculous".

KCM, you summed it up in one phrase. Royals do look ridiculous, pathetic, powerless and toothless now. Two rotten individuals and a Z-lister former actress did more to damage the institution than the two WWs and a great revolution combined.

I said it before and I will repeat it now. Impossible to respect the institution that does not respect itself.
Richard Kay article in the DM...it does include Megsy and Harry’s behaviour too.

RICHARD KAY: Prince Andrew's silence is ruinously damaging his mother... he MUST end this excruciating stand-off....


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8495721/RICHARD-KAY-Prince-Andrews-silence-ruinously-damaging-mother.html
Magatha Mistie said…

“Oh dear! Oh my! Oh trouble!”

Lippy the Leo and Harry Haw Haw!!
Shaggy said…
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Teasmade said…
(Commenting so I can follow from work via email.)
Nefarious P. said…
I love this blog and appreciate the civil discourse it allows on a relatively uncivil character!

A couple of points about book publishing and shipping:

1. USPS and Royal Mail/Parcelforce are as uncoordinated as, well, Harry and Adele after a night of drinking. Been shipping things between the UK and the US in the past months and it tries my patience.

2. Due to COVID some printing plants and book warehouses have had reduced staffing. Hence not enough printed and not getting out fast enough. Better safe than sick!
KCM1212 said…
This is a bit of an aside, but does Meghan look DIFFERENT?
I can't quite figure out why. I'm looking at stills, so maybe it's a weird angle. I simply cannot watch the video.

Not trying to get into looks per se, it's that she almost looks like a different person.

Curlytop said…
My goodness, where to begin???

As noted above: you have the embarrassing pic of Maxwell and Spacey on the throne making waves, so it's a nice tie to Epstein to compound the other incriminating issues w Britain's National Pedo treasure Seville who had ties to the BRF, and these two low rents are allowed to lecture vapidly on social issues while still living in the the lap of luxury? These twats live better than 99% of us. If the goal is for the Harkles to deflect from the other bad press, it isn't working. It's making.it.worse!

Good grief! How is the BRF this hapless? *And as an American enduring an election cycle w an obvious dementia candidate against a reality show star, trust me: I get the embarrassment. We're ALL being led by fools!
Magatha Mistie said…

@KCM

All her jaw dropping drivel
has caused her jaw to drop
Bi-witched
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Lily Love said…
It is going to take us years to move on from the wokeness and political correct society that we are currently living in. I blame the overwhelmingly left leaning biased media and the public education system that we have, as well as lazy parenting for this. We are now in a time where moderate people like myself and most people on here try to look at both sides and come up with a solution and we are vilified for it because it’s not progressive enough. I didn’t mean to turn this into a political discussion. However I feel like us moderates failed because we did not do enough to stop the extreme ends of the political and social factions from getting the power that they have. We also did not enough to fix the things in society that needed to be fixed. As a result of that we have people who think and act like Meghan and Harry, as well as the people who love nothing more than causing the maximum amount destruction that they can.
KCM1212 said…
@Magatha

Poor thing!

Maybe she needs a biopsy
Magatha Mistie said…

@KCM

Or a Bi-Pass...
KCM1212 said…
@Nutty SAid:

"I'd have a lot more respect for your wokeness if you renounced your income from Dad and your inheritance from Mom, both of which are at least indirectly related to the profits of colonialism."

And
"Stop paying for private jets and cocaine with money from what you call "endemic institutionalized racism" and then we can talk. "

And
"Perhaps Meg should make a commitment to a bias-free future by pledging that her son, Archie, will attend only state schools - nothing private - and that she and Harry will choose a school with a majority nonwhite student body."

Yes! This^^^

And finally:

"Meanwhile, the video shows Meg looking at Harry adoringly, a bit like Nancy Reagan used to look at "Ronnie" back in the day."

Every time she looks at him like that I think of the way my dog stares at me when I might have a potato chip on my person.

She is clearly trying to telepathically train me.

As Megs is Harry. She is a stage-mother.
KCM1212 said…
@Magatha

Maybe just bifocals 😀
Svetlana said…
Usually just a lurker here, so appreciate this blog. But if you gave Meg another minute, she’s have Harry muscled right out of the video . And she always looks so proud of herself after she delivers cliche after cliche after cliche. I had to quit watching. It beggars belief.



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CatEyes said…
Nutties have written that 'what difference would it make if the Queen did not give permission to Harry to marry Markle' as as a grown man he would have married her anyway.'!!

It would have made a Big Difference if the Queen did not give permission to Harry, 6th in line to the throne. Without the Sovereign's consent it would disqualify him and Harry's descendants from succeeding to the Crown.

Ouch...would Harry still marry Markle if he would have been so humiliated? Would Meghan with her obsession with status have married Harry knowing her children would not be in line of succession?

Reference:
Succession to the Crown Act", Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 2013 (20), Section 3(3), 2013, retrieved 7 April 2014, The effect of a person's failure to comply with subsection (1) is that the person and the person's descendants from the marriage are disqualified from succeeding to the Crown.
Magatha Mistie said…
@KCM

Hahaha

Harry’s next mission?
A bi-polar exploration...
KCM1212 said…
This is interesting. The Sussexes violated ACT guidelines as well. This is from their website under Digital Safeguards link.

"Do not post about The Royal Family without approval.
• All posts that refer to the Principals or Patron of QCT must follow the appropriate sign off processes with Palace staff and be signed off by the CEO or the Marketing and Digital Innovation Director.
• Posts should be neutral and factual and must not imply that QCT is a representative of any member of The Royal Family or their views.

CONTENT
Remain neutral and do not comment directly on sensitive political issues.
• QCT remains politically neutral and does not participate in direct activism or lobbying.
• QCT supports the work of young leaders across the Commonwealth who are challenging the problems
in society and influencing policy, focusing its messaging on youth leadership and the actions of young people without commenting directly on political issues."

Maybe the Trust themselves will ask for their removal.
This is definitely grounds for removal.
KCM1212 said…
*QCT not ACT
Sigh
Fifi LaRue said…
Meg and Harry really don't do anything worthwhile, do they?

They are certainly not walking their talk.

It's all lip service.

Empty words.

Private jets. Cocaine. Cosmetic surgery.
Kate said…
I saw the video. I could barely make it past 2 minutes. Megs word salads are so boring and are utter nonsense. She does look very proud of herself everytime she thinks she says something intelligent.

She has definitely had more work done. Her nose is slimmer ao I think she had a touch-up. Also, her hair finaly looks more normal, very smooth and not unkempt like it always looked in the UK.

Do you guys think that was really them together in the video?? A lot of tumblr people seem to think the video was spliced together with Harry and Megs in different places. I kinda see that this is possible because there were many points in the video where it looked like they should have been touching shoulders/arms but never did, it was weird.
YankeeDoodle said…
From Her Majesty, QE2, and Prince Philip:

Dearest sixth in line to my throne, thus a nothing in the BRF unless you work, and I believe that you are my grandson, although your mother did not understand that you do not Shi-e in your home, and admitted that she was the person in her, may I say, marriage of Charles, Camilla, James Hewitt, Barry M., and all the married men (including a dear friend of mine, who threatened Diana with a lawsuit for harassing her day and night with phone calls; threatening to kill her friends and family; Diana was warned by Scotland Yard, but continued her insane criminal acts until she was literally brought to a police station, and said stop; Diana, or perhaps Charles and his family, had to pay for pain and suffering to my friend).

Diana was beautiful, caring (mostly about herself), tormented by her horrible parents and extended family; uneducated, but literally a star, in America, at least. We adored her until we knew her; Diana, no matter what she was guilty of, was blessed to be able to let her light shine upon AIDS, suffering, land mines; a lover of dance, ballet and music; a teenager who married a young 32 year old Prince, a fabulous wedding that in generations before, would have been acknowledged as a marriage of convenience, and after the requisite heirs, spares, etc., each would quietly lead separate lives, without the pesky media interfering in their love or lost lives.

As soon as I heard Rachel Meghan Markle, I googled and Wikipediad her life. Surprise, but Meghan considered said she followed nothing;. She said that her name Rachel was all you should know about her. Plus her Horowitz niece. The Archbishop declared that Meghan can be married in an Anglican Church, no matter what her religion *Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Protestant” could be. Of course, Megs converted to the Church of England, or so people were told.

Reading back what I just wrote, I realize that all of us are making two stupid, racist, thieves of Great Britain’s Money; more than the numbskulls could ever achieve if they were patriotic, kind, intelligent, worthy people. We have made the two losers the biggest losers, and why? Because we love to see two stupid, despicable people fall down from their lies. Megs and Just H, pay the IRS your back taxes. Any more of your shi,te, and watch out - Megs will have to appear in court for non-payment of taxes. This is why she is bringing up crazy lawsuits in GB - to derail attention to millions of taxes due to the USA, appearing in federal and state tax courts.

KCM1212 said…
Here is more:

Avoid referring to prominent QCT stakeholders, including members of The Royal Family.

The public and media interest in some of QCT’s key stakeholders is such that extreme caution should be exercised if sharing a post, tag or hashtag that relates to them.

Personal opinions or comments made by QCT Representatives in relation to the QCT Principals or Patron, or any member of The Royal Family, may be linked to QCT as an organisation and could create unwanted personal attention online. This is true even if you restrict your social media channel pages to viewing by friends only.

• Socio-political issues should never be linked with any member of The Royal Family or any other stakeholder of QCT, including staff, donors and Trustees.

• QCT advises to repost official content from QCT or official Palace channels only. If in doubt, do not post.

Same source

https://www.queenscommonwealthtrust.org/digital-safeguarding/?
bootsy said…
As many have mentioned there is clearly a war going on between the Palace and MM/PH.

If that is the case then war, like chess, is a game of many different moves in order to reach a winning postion. This video is, for me at least, an extremely well played chess move. Don't get me wrong I can't stand this pair but this really was a good one.

Think about it-the RF only exists on good will and popularity. The RF are not giving MM what she wants. This video is either a shot across the bows, or a direct assault, on the foundations of the RF. MM is showing them the damage that she can do by turning one of the sons and getting him to criticise their very foundations.

She's an evil cow but damn this was a clever move. The gloves are off now, she's playing for keeps and the RF can no longer just do a powder puff bit of PR with Kate playing lacrosse or posing at a desk with a phone in hand saying that she's working hard.

Make no mistake, this video marks a MASSIVE turning point. PH is showing that he's totally gone to the other side now. Of course the hypocrisy that Nutty mentions is disgusting as always but forget all that. People are so easily manipulated nowadays that they'll just forget it/claim it doesn't matter as PH is finally 'doing the right thing.' He is the poster child of an entitled (literally) and vastly wealthy recipient of privilege claiming both victim status to spare himself from the mob, whilst at the same time joining the mob.
Sickening, cowardly and hypocritical.

These 2 are vile but as mentioned, get your popcorn because the sparring is over. This is now the real thing. The hostility and MM's desire to damage the RF to it's core is now out in the open. I expect to see some big things in the next few months if the RF are up to playing the game. If not then MM is going to destroy them.
Fifi LaRue said…
PS: When Nancy Reagan was a Hollywood starlet, everyone in the business knew she was trash-ola. She'd do anyone, anytime. There was one story of her in the backseat of a convertible with a gay man on either side. She gave them a simultaneous hand job.
When Nancy got to be FLOTUS with her fake very proper demeanor, people who knew the real Nancy must have thought, "Now that's some A-1 acting."
KCM1212 said…
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Fifi LaRue said…
Did Meg have her cocaine ski nose repaired? The bridge was collapsing.
KCM1212 said…
@magatha

He can fly there in his bi-plane!

(We have to stop, don't we, lol)

You do the last one. You are more cLever than I...
Shaggy said…
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Magatha Mistie said…

@KCM

Sequel to “Finding Freedom”
“The Bi-got and his Bi-le”
A bi-odegrading tale
of their High-ways and Bi-ways
Maci80 said…
My favorite part is her saying “what I hear you telling me is that it is as important to listen as to speak” and then never lets anyone else speak for the rest of the video.
And other commenters are right that little by little she is nudging old Harry out of the video. This is Monty Python skit level stuff.
Idiots!
KCM1212 said…
@Wullies Bucket

Oddly, it's not on their site Wullie. Maybe all the violations,lol.

Here is a link

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/meghan-markle-prince-harry-talk-131012434.html

@Magatha
You always make me laugh. Kudos!
lizzie said…
@CatEyes wondered if TQ hadn't given H&M permission to marry:

"would Harry still marry Markle if he would have been so humiliated? Would Meghan with her obsession with status have married Harry knowing her children would not be in line of succession? 

That's a good question. Personally I think Harry would have still wanted to marry M. I don't know what happened between the Inskip wedding and the engagement but I think H wanted to marry M. I don't think he was forced into anything. And I suspect H threatened to marry no matter what.

As things have played out, I think it's clear M would not have married H under those circumstances. But TQ couldn't know that nor could she or anyone else in the RF know the depths of M's pathology.

We are acting as "Monday night quarterbacks" I think now that we have benefit of hindsight. I suspect the RF had plenty of doubts but thought the marriage would last 5-8 years with the pair of them acting acceptably enough as working royals.

I really doubt when permission was granted anyone imagined they'd act as terribly as they have in public. (Whining about their own hard lives while in southern Africa, are you kidding me?) That they'd spend so much money so openly (a $57,000 dress for the engagement photo?) That M would prance around the world double-clutching what looked like a fake baby bump starting 4 months after the wedding. Or that they'd dramatically leave the UK in a huff after about a year and a half followed by criticism of the monarchy and RF from afar while camping out in someone's borrowed Hollywood mansion. You couldn't make this stuff up so why would the RF think it would actually happen?
Aquagirl said…
@KCM1212@1:19am
Thanks for summing up my thoughts perfectly! No need for me to type now!
KCM1212 said…
@maci80

LOL..you had me searching for the "like" button!
KC said…
Barbara from Montreal said…

Good Lord, these two are tiresome.I

HEAR, HEAR!!
KC said…
Raspberry Ruffle said...

Puds said, Then Prince Charles comes out also in DM and says he plans to -"dampen a sense of entitlement" to housing and other perks among minor members of the firm. Thought he might be calling Harry and Megan out....

Also, possibly, Andrew.
Midge said…
The video is on the QCT website under the tab "News and Inspiration"
KCM1212 said…
Well, This is the time for Charles to cut the Harkles off, or at least drastically minimize their allowance. The Totals are laying off a couple of hundred workers.

I dont think the British people are going to tolerate PC supporting the Sussexes in obscene luxury while the country is in an economic crunch.

They won't starve living off Hairless's money.

They just have to accept reality.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12049708/hundreds-of-royal-staff-are-being-axed-this-month/
KCM1212 said…
@midge

I missed it Midge.
Thanks!
KCM1212 said…
Doggone it!

*Royal, not Total

Why does it DO that!

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jessica said…
By becoming more and more antagonistic, they are effectively trying to control the BRF response.

They assume if they become more ‘modern politically woke’ while saying things people can’t go ‘oh no, not that, we can’t do that’, moreso obvious statements sheered in superiority and virtue signaling, the BRF would Then look ‘out of touch/victimizing’ and be seen to be petty and in the wrong if they take action against the manipulative duo. If they strip them of their titles, Meghan and Harry will be given a bigger platform As apart of the globalist subset. The few who are ‘modernizing’ the world for us. They will play the victim narrative till the end of time.

It seems Meghan and Harry decided they weren’t going to leave without a fight (I’ve had a theory they were slowly kicked out anyway they are awful!) and are trying to bring down the reputation of William and Kate so in 10-20 years they don’t have to acknowledge reality.

We might be in this for the long haul guys.

Meghan knows she cannot do better than Harry for an A list husband, and it looks like Harry is just like her- ready to show who he really is to his family, resentful, angry, manipulative, cunning, conniving, and twisted.

All they can do is cut them off from funding from the royal trusts and private wealth, but being that is a status thing for aristocratic families, I have my doubts they will do that. We did see what happened to Andrew, but Andrew didn’t lose his marbles and fly off to America and hold his mothers reputation hostage (hence why I see this strategy working for the jerks for a while longer).

What they may do is strip of patronages first, lower the budget, and then titles.

It should have happened from the get go. Why they were given a year (unlike people in the real world who step away from work) is beyond me. They don’t respect it. I bet it was only 1 royal who wanted all these extra perks for ‘dear Harry’....was it the Queen? Strange way to handle someone quitting work and leaving the country.

jessica said…
I agree that Meghan is in the video to show she is validated PH and PH gets his rocks off by doing whatever she wants him to do.

They both hate the RF for different reasons, and are too widely culturally different to really understand each other.

This is what bonds them, she’s angry about the pecking order and lack of money, he’s angry about the pecking order and one million other things. It’s all aimed at ‘other people’ and ‘things’. Not each other.

Instead of moving on, they’ve realized it’s in their best interest to bring down the RF.

Look how smug they are. It’s incredible.

It’s probably only going to kick into high gear. They get more attention as a freak show couple than individuals. Meghan has realized this by now.
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bootsy said…
@Jessica
Very interesting synopsis, I never thought of it that way! I can't disagree.

@Wullie'sbucket For whatever reasons, PH doesn't like the RF and wants to bring it down or, more likely, get it to work 'for him' for a change. This is where his anger lies. He has no real standing in the RF in comparison to his brother. This will have been clear when growing up. His brother who was not good at sport and didn't have the same easy charm still got all the goods because...he'll be king.

Add on the fact that Princess Di was killed, add on the fact that MM has nurtured, twisted and given free reign to his sense of victim hood despite his privileged upbringing and you get to the situation that we have right now.

Oh yes of course, we can't forget that PH isn't very bright can we.
bootsy said…
And also I think he knows that he has millions, as does his father, and that he can get money from.speaking engagements/charity work etc so I don't think he believes he will be leaving himself destitute.
Midge said…
Maybe it's been mentioned and I missed it but there's a new Harry Markle up.
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Mango said…
Five minutes of platitudes and cliches, and Meghan, the girl who let her classmates assume she was Italian and listed herself as Caucasian on her resume, oh so proud of herself as she hastened to assure us of her personal experience of racism. And Harry’s getting as bad as MM with the word salad, “righting wrongs...still much to do...acknowledge the bias and do the work to become more aware...things coming to a head...continue this momentum for as long as it takes...” I could feel the hot air coming off my iPad. As others have said, “Give up the allowance, the title, the perks like private jets.” Until then, all this posturing is meaningless, but regrettably there are some out there who will buy what these two are selling.
Barbara said…
Where the dastardly duo getting the money to pay for their lawyers and the PR firm? They are using both the lawsuit and the press releases to take non-stop pot shots at the BRF so if they are using the allowance they get from Charles, he is essentially funding the destruction of his own family.
Lucky Dog said…
I just can’t explain any of this anymore. They use their titles, when they aren’t supposed to. They keep suing, when it’s terrible optics for the monarchy and his family. And, they grasp and cling for dear life to whatever last bits of fraying ties they pretend to have to the family they fled, disrespected and insulted. What a mess they are - and what a mess is this video. He’s out of focus, she’s in clear focus. The lighting is more on her, but they are next to each other. Yet whenever they should bump, there is no movement in their shirts, The line blurs out and kinda skips and they apparition through each other. They seem spliced together. And when she’s “looking at him,” she’s not really focused on him but on where she thinks he is? It’s really odd. I don’t think they were actually next to each other, and it was too scripted with quasiplagiarized soundbites that didn’t sound genuine. Plus, Meghan has admitted she never felt direct racism, though she repeats that her mother was taken for the nanny (not necessarily racism, is that?) and was once called n-word (which is horrible, of course). And here, she references her experiences with racism in this video? Her histrionic proclivity to invent fluff du jour is really tiresome. People don’t connect with lies, there isn’t the same suspension of disbelief in real life when watching someone pretend a narrative of their imagination. It feels false and contrived with her every time. People connect with sincerity and truthfulness, being genuine. The Sussexes and all their pretend philanthropy and activism are a total turn off, start to finish. It’s so disappointing and disheartening to watch it be indulged at all, including by the Queen and Charles, who are coming off spineless and resigned, which is so not the spirit of GREAT Britain. William and Kate can only do so much good will smiling to overcome the ick factor run amok. Sad, sad, sad.
Lucky Dog said…
P.s. it’d be great to let MM know that we all know she spent more on her wardrobe in the last 2y than the start up funds for their corporate “charity” from the Royal Foundation payout, and most of that wardrobe was wear once unnecessary maternity garb. She has likely also spent more in legal fees In cases she has no chance of winning but uses to air her petulant grievances than she’s donated to worthy causes. She’s caused more division in her own family and then her husband’s family than anyone else we’ve had the displeasure to watch in the public sphere. She’s also been caught in more lies and mischaracterizations than anyone else I can remember. What the heck is wrong with this woman, how the heck did she infiltrate our airwaves and where the heck is Markus Andersen?! And if JM is truly sorry, then she needs to make amends and come clean on what the heck went down that this malignant grifter is still getting away with this nonsense.
Hikari said…
Charles needs to do more than “dampen” The rampant sense of entitlement… He needs to douse it in petrel and set it on fire. I think he would have a far easier time doing this with his younger brother, with whom he has never gotten on, except the time when he joined forces with Andrew to get his mothers chief advisor Lord Geidt...S-canned. That was before Megan even joined the family, so frankly, if Elizabeth Regina allowed two of her children to dictate who and who would not work for her, she’s already lost the thread long before this. Charles could really use lord G fighting his corner now, so I wonder if he regrets the hissy fit he threw to force Mummy to demote her Walsingham.

I have no wish to hasten the demise of this Queen, Who is slim so large over the latter half of the 20th century and the first fifth of this one, but ER is, For all her other virtues, the relic of a time gone by who resists change or confrontation of any kind. She is trying to cling to the status quo of a more genteel time when her authority was unquestioned. Had the Harkle debacle occurred even three years earlier, When Philip was still a force to be reckoned with, I think things will be playing out very differently now.

For all his privileges, I do not envy Charles, because he is the architect of this mess to a large degree. He hast to bear some responsibility for the utter embarrassing ruin that his younger son has become, And a huge liability to the family. Williams time is coming, and though he should be the person Closest to Harry in all the world, William is not going to forget the grievous wrongs Harry has done to the royal family and him personally. Any love that still remains for a wayward younger brother has to be set against the injury harry has done to Williams wife and his kids. Not to mention the heartbreak it causes himself and his father personally, and his beloved grandparents. This will not be forgotten, nor do I think, forgiven. I think William contains plenty with his father behind closed doors, so his voice cannot yet be the official one in decision making. When he becomes prince of Wales, I think there are going to be big changes down the pike, And very possibly his father will handover all the unpleasant decisions having to do with the Harkles to him. William will then control Harry’s remaining source of funding from the royal family. And when William becomes King, Harry will be further disenfranchised. It remains to be seen if Harry will ever see any of his family again. He has chosen this, so as far as I’m concerned he can go to the devil, Most of us believe he’s already with her, Satan in female form. Throughout English history, I doubt there was a more pathetic prince then just call me Harry. It’s a pity Mr. Shakespeare is not here to memorialize in iambic pentameter for the ages what we are now living through.
Hikari said…
“Contends” not contains
Hikari said…
Test ...are we still receiving?
HappyDays said…
Jessica said...

We might be in this for the long haul guys.

@Jessica: Sadly, I think you might be right. This could go on for years, and I mean decades. After I read Miggy’s posts of excerpts from Lady C’s book, my opinion that the Sussex marriage could be lengthy, more than 10 years at a minimum. I have been hoping this would be a “starter marriage” for Harry and he’d wake up and it would hit the rocks after five years or so. But Harry seems deeply under Meghan’s absolute control. It is not love. These relationships are often incredibly sick, twisted and abusive relationships, but I’ve seen sick, twisted, and abusive relationships go on for decades, and even for life. The crippled relationships just limp along for years.

Harry is likely so deeply codependent on Meghan that he will put up with pretty much anything from her. Especially now that they are away from the UK and he is absolutely isolated, Harry has probably been the subject of emotional abuse by Meghan. Devaluation and gaslighting are two of the favorite tools of narcissistic abusers.



I honestly don’t see Harry having any sort of awakening and taking Archie back to the UK and divorcing her. He actually still holds the power in their relationship. Without him, Meghan is nothing, but Harry has handed control to Meghan and I doubt he has the emotional strength to take it back anytime soon, if ever.



The best bet for an early parting of themeays would be massive financial problems, which I think is very likely,

@Nutty,

Great post, especially-
"It's all so tiresome, and reminds me of a McDonald's employee campaigning against the beef and french fry industries".

Quite. H&M are continuing to bite the band that feeds them.

The hypocrisy is astounding. Will they stop, no. Will they be stopped? Maybe but not anytime soon. H&M popping up again after a couple of quiet(ish) months makes me think MM along with H is going to use the R card as a way to stay relevant. It may even work in our current climate.

Lady C's book hasn't put much of a dent in MM ego/aspirations has it? I am reluctantly coming round to the notion that MM is going to be around and be a thorn in the royal family's side for some time yet.

Whether MM & H have real supporters or popularity doesn't seem to matter as many uS commenters have mentioned most people in the US aren't bothered. It appears some elements of the media and other players (behind the scenes) are supporting them and most likely enjoy the disruption they cause.

The Queen, Charles and William should do something but can they do it? Time will tell.
Hikari said…
I did a test post because the thread had gone so quiet for like an hour… Well I just watched a portion of the QCT video...As much as I could stand. I disregarded the millennial word salad from all concerned that was completely incomprehensible to a non-woke GenXer like myself and concentrated on the picture.

I have several wonderments.

I wonder why the visual feed is so jerky. A little bit of glitching might be expected on the zoom platform when the participants are in different spots around the world, with varying degrees of Internet connection. But Harry and Meg’s feed seems particularly jerky. Sometimes it cuts out all together. Their shoulders are sensibly touching but the line looks very weird. Sometimes her shoulder appears to be in front of his entire arm in bits of the same frame. Their body language is extremely stilted and stiff. When she turns her head to look at him, it’s like an entire 90° angle. He looks as gormless as ever, and she’s doing her Hispanic hair flip again. Somehow the visual line of their bodies it’s not matching up, for two people that have a great deal of experience appearing in front of cameras, it’s very awkward. And why are they so very stonefaced when the other people are speaking? There isn’t a smile or a flicker of acknowledgment that they are listening to any other audio feeds. WinMag is going off on her monologue, hairy stares off into the distance, almost like he’s not there, while the other participants on this call stare straight ahead with stony unmoving faces. Where is the active listening from anybody? It’s like they can’t see each other at all.

Let’s just say I am deeply suspicious that this was an actual active multi person meeting that the Dumbarkles were actually invited to. Even given that it’s a zoom call, it feels so hollow and posed, almost like those tiles that were the opening credits for the Brady Bunch...Meant to project a cohesive group experience, but actually filmed separately, And each participant was only pretending to look at the others, because the others weren’t there at all.
@Lucky Dog you are right. There is something "wrong" about their movements and they do indeed appear to be spliced together. I don't know about anyone else but I can't get the sound to jive with their mouths either. This doesn't even look like Meghan. Her brows are lower and the eyes suddenly hooded. Her face much fuller in the upper cheek area. It could be fillers but I don't think so. Curiouser and curiouser...
Snippy said…
I haven’t watched the video. I have no stomach for someone who has never been a citizen of a Commonwealth country lecturing us on anything. Megs you are an American citizen, go clean up your own house!! HMTQ needs to take action on those loose cannon Harkles; the Commonwealth is hanging together by a very loose thread at the moment. Many members including Canada and Australia have been questioning for some time what the benefit of membership is, and the thinking is that despite the recent handover to Charles, once Her Maj is gone many member countries will be leaving.
Snippy said…
Also many Canadian taxpayers are still fuming over the Harkles security bill. Reason enough there to take our leave from the Commonwealth.
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Hikari said…
All of the Sussexes antics feel like the Truman Show to me. They have both been engaged in gaslighting us since November 2017. Meg is determined to bend reality to her will, no matter how many lies she had to tell and how much media she has to manipulate to get there. She is the ghost writer of her own story, and she’s roped just call me Harry and a tot she calls Archie into her plot.

Hikari said…
Just call me Harry has never looked more like a puppet than he does in this video, Except for the time that she had to drag a visibly zonked H by the arm in South Africa.

For two people allegedly so in tune with each other, and soulmates of the century, their interpersonal dynamic is very very awkward. He seems completely disconnected from her even when he is by her side or being dragged around by the hand. That cheeky prince checked out years ago;,I don’t even know who this is. He’s a completely vacant pod person spouting his lines on command, pre-programmed like the robot alien he is. JCHFKP is The male version of a Stepford wife.
abbyh said…

I'm looking at the video and agree that there are some odd bits. strictly watched silent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=JRNr8Jow9WM

First, they are both standing. They are not seated in chairs.

He sure blinks/closes his eyes a lot. and she sometimes closes her eyes too.

Agree Lucky Dog about the not interacting as they move close, she is in front of him (12/13 or 14 minutes marks). The shirts don't move and there is not oh, excuse me for bumping you, hey we are here together doing this video intimate interplay moments between them. The closest you might get is just before the 18 minute mark where they both slant the same way.

There are not a lot of moments when they do a full screen together either. You see a fair amount of full screens for everyone else but not the duo. The background is interesting as it blends nicely. Not a consistent color. The lighting is such that you can't really see shadows.

What you do see is that they are not centered together the way the others pretty much are. She has all this space to her left and his ear almost crosses the border.

And, they don't come off as looking at the same camera. Eye gaze is not parallel.

Hikari - nice catch about not active listening body language.

CatEyes - glad to hear the sheep are safe. You might find this interesting
https://www.lightningmaps.org/?fbclid=IwAR38-5SM4BSvRRJerWSsiHJtV3X6MiovudNsmAP5QbJYykPDYEyWixqsKBc#m=oss;t=3;s=0;o=0;b=;ts=0;z=4;y=37.2303;x=-67.5;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;
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Miz Malaprop said…
Perhaps this latest political jab is to force the Royal Family into a final settlement, not wait another 6 or 9 months to get their so-called freedom. Megs likes to get things done & probably wants a big deposit in the bank before filing for divorce.

All the lawsuit activity, all the wasted legal fees on pointless petitions are probably all paid by Charles, so it's another way of turning the screws to force a final, and of course well-funded, solution.
Miz Malaprop said…
Blue screen! That is the strange effect in their video. Harry's was filmed first, pauses scripted. Then Megs was filmed against a blue screen and the two videos were blended. Movies use it all the time, but they weren't using high-end technology.

Also, the Zoom listeners looked like they were filmed listening to a prerecorded video.
Unknown said…
So I watched the video in full. I didn't really pay attention to the word salad but I was keeping my eyes on H&M throughout. Here are my observations:

- That special brand of yellow in H&M's hostage-kidnapper videos keep reminding me of Raskolnikov's apartment walls in Crime & Punishment.

- The mustardy yellow background, lighting, and filters hurts my eyes. The other participants were on clearer video and much easier to watch. I think H&M's background choice is deliberate so eagle-eyed Megxit-ers have a harder time scrutinizing their videos.

- Like Hikari mentioned, there are quite a few big jumps in the video of H&M and not the others. Those jumps looked like video editing not glitches. Why do they need editing for the video call? I cannot imagine why.

- Meg does indeed look different and her facial expressions were tight. I kept noticing her eyebrows and forehead which I don't normally. Her lips look filled and hair was neater. I do think she had recent work done.

- Harry looks very washed out and insecure in the video. I don't understand why he is chained to always wearing clothes in the white and oatmeal color family. Any color especially blue and green would look better against his coloring. I can imagine that Meg makes him do that so she can stand out next to him.

- The standing positions of H&M are very awkward. JCMH is all the way on the left side standing on a pivot with his left shoulder and leg behind. He looks physically uncomfortable standing that way. You see him zoning out a few times when Meg rattles on.

- Meg is dead center, head first into the camera, and doing a power pose most of the time with her hands on her hips, often invading Harry's space. Sometimes, she shifts to a pivot too but oddly not the natural way any normal person would given JCMH is right next to her. Instead, she pivots to the left the same way Harry does, like someone is standing to her left but no one is there. Or is there?

- Meg whipped out her "at war" personality instead of her "doe-eyed, sappy" one this time. JCMH was beta as usual.

- I agree with Hikari, the body language was bizarre between H&M. There was no connection except the couple of times Meg surveilled him. Even then, it felt forced and H&M's shoulders danced a bizarre tango.

- I think the video call was shot together not separately. The lighting and Meg's right shoulder looking like it was in front of Harry's are why I think that way.

- The highlight of the video was when JCMH FKAP called himself "Ancient" for being 35 years old. Meg said he wasn't. He replied he was, especially compared to those on the call. LOL, that must have stung Rache and her 38 years 11 month old self.
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Aquagirl said…
I honestly have a difficult time believing that HM welcomed MM into the BRF. I just don’t see that happening when it was so clear to the rest of the world what a lying phony she was/is.

As far as MM being ‘bi-racial’, the only person I know who was interested in watching the wedding was my aunt. Part of the reason was that she was recovering from surgery and was bored out of her mind as all she could really do was watch TV. I spent the night at her house the night before, but had to be somewhere else the ‘day of’, thankfully. I did watch MM walk down the aisle (eye roll), and when the cameras focused on Doria, my aunt blurted out ‘who is that black woman’? When I said that she was MM’s mother, my aunt said that she thought MM was Italian. The only other person I know who knew her prior to JH is a cousin of mine (she was one of the 12 viewers of Suits) and she thought MM was Italian as well. I knew that she was bi-racial but only because I had read about her. I’m speaking as an American so may be totally off base here, but nobody here GAF about her heritage.

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I’m blonde/blue-eyed and have often been mistaken for the nanny. I’ve always taken it as a compliment. Maybe the true ‘problem’ was that her mother was/is a pot-head who spent years in ‘parts unknown’, leaving her daughter to be raised by her father.
Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’s Bucket: Aww. Makes sense since both Me-again and Octomom idolize Saint Angie.
Aquagirl said…
I can’t watch the Zoom call as I’m sick of looking at their faces, but I’m assuming, as I have been for awhile, that they don’t live together. There were a few videos awhile back of them separately and the backgrounds didn’t match, although you could tell that was MM’s goal.
FrenchieLiv said…
Good morning everyone!
According to Newsweek :
- The Palace knew about HM's statement : " Buckingham Palace knew about it so it's not a surprise or anything like that."
- The Palace supports their statement: ""Part of the work it's doing is looking at the history of the commonwealth. It's what they're there for and it's important for young people to look into it."

https://www.newsweek.com/palace-support-meghan-markle-prince-harry-talking-about-race-1515724
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Catlady1649 said…
Thank you for this post. The comments are very enlightening.
I agree with so many points you have all made,
The bottom line is that they are a disgrace to the UK.
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@ Fairy Crocodile
@Hikari


I agree with you both completely about the RF’s cowardly approach to dealing with the Sussexes.
@Wullie’s Bucket Thank you!

Great posts on this thread! Thanks everyone.
I'm watching the video (sound off) and although I'm only a few minutes in it's just occurred to me that so far they both look like drunk people attempting to look sober. They have that "serious" look on their faces that drunks tend to get when they're concentrating and they can't seem to stand straight.
Maneki Neko said…
Golden Retriever said...
@Fairy Crocodile
@Hikari
I agree with you both completely about the RF’s cowardly approach to dealing with the Sussexes.
_________________________

It certainly does appear cowardly. Could it be, however, that the BRF are letting those two carry on until they have a very solid 'charge list' against them? Yes, the list is long enough
and bad enough but maybe they're waiting for more serious stuff. Then they can stop the money and remove the titles and the Harkles won't have a leg to stand on, i.e. cry racism (which at this stage I don't think anyone would believe).
FrenchieLiv said…
Rebecca English, royal correspondent confirms "BP sources tell her they've no issue" (with Harry and Meghan's statement).
Frenchie Liv said, According to Newsweek :
- The Palace knew about HM's statement : " Buckingham Palace knew about it so it's not a surprise or anything like that."
- The Palace supports their statement: ""Part of the work it's doing is looking at the history of the commonwealth. It's what they're there for and it's important for young people to look into it."


Oh yeah right! Sure they do! Not! SMH
Anonymous said…
There us a tick you clip on Skippy Tumblr blog here's the caption
I’m just adding this short clip to show you how advanced technology is. This is one guy.playing both. He splices two celebrities together with an App called face swap, making them appear in the same space. This is just a Free App. Readily available. For free to anyone. A play thing. Imagine what can be done if you have a whole PRofessional PR machine behind you. And you love telling lies and playing games. And that’s why we can’t believe everything we are fed even if we see it with our own eyes
@Lurking with spoon

I also just watched the video with no sound. The staging is so weird. Were they trying to be artsy by using negative space to Meghan’s left? Was it her deliberate attempt to be front and center while JH was marginalized at the edge of the frame? The harder they try, the more abysmally they fail.
@Golden Retriever, it is weird isn't it? I did notice at some points they seemed to be more centered but it didn't last for long before they were more or less back to where they were originally.

Random video thoughts:

Could the reason they're having to stand be because they've sold the furniture to pay for PR?

Harry looks like he *really* doesn't want to be there, there are points where he seems to look at Meghan and almost rolls his eyes or curls his lip when he isn't gazing into space looking like he'd rather be watching paint dry or something. Also, why does he keep looking off to the left (his right)? Is that where the cue cards are located?

I'm not so sure it's been spliced, the points where her arm seems to "vanish" behind his I think is because she has her hands behind her back (to highlight the buttonless shirt I suppose, there were times I thought she was about to flash us when she put her arms behind her and leaned forward) and the angle just makes it look weird. She puts her hands behind her back when she's not as close to him and her shoulder is literally the only thing "poking out" - I've just realised it puts me in mind of someone who's handcuffed and is distorting their arms to try and get out of them. I've been watcing the shadows and at some points when she moves, faint shadows do move on his shirt in a logical manner so if they have been filmed separately then their editing skills are rapidly improving (or they might have paid a professional with the income from the furniture).

When she's staring at him while he's talking it actually makes me feel quite uncomfortable. It puts me in mind of the stare my ex used to do when I was talking to other people. In his case it was because he absolutely hated me talking to someone who wasn't him and he was monitoring me so he could later on accuse me (for example) of enjoying talking to my sister more than I enjoyed talking to him if I showed too much pleasure in the convo, although in H&M's case it could be she's making sure he doesn't decide to go "off-script".

Non-H&M observations: The guy in the kitchen... I know it's nothing to do with the video but all I want to do is go and remove that sticker from his oven (microwave?), it bugged me far more than it should have done. I did however quite like that lady's potted plant.
Unknown said…

I’m just adding this short clip to show you how advanced technology is. This is one guy.playing both. He splices two celebrities together with an App called face swap, making them appear in the same space. This is just a Free App. Readily available. For free to anyone. A play thing. Imagine what can be done if you have a whole PRofessional PR machine behind you.

Hadn't thought of something like that. Would it rely on people being already in the scene with just the faces changed out or does it insert complete people? I still think some of the shadows show that there were two people standing next to each other (admittedly the shadows could be edited in, but if they are it's a much better job than their previous half-ar$ed efforts), although whether they were actually H&M or randomers with the faces changed, or a combo of the two, I have no idea. It just seems such a crazy thing to do that I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it.
Aquagirl said…
@Unknown; @Lurking: Google ‘Voice Cloning’ or ‘AI Generated Voices.’ It’s amazing what’s possible. The video could actually be MM/JH doubles, that’s how easy this technology makes it to fake it.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Maneki

I’m also hoping the RF are waiting, just waiting,
to get Megs and her dregs all lined up.
No chance for “isms” nor redress for imagined slights.
Then cut their titles, and money. Cheque Mate
Just got around to reading the newest Harry Markle and had to laugh because the placeholder image for the video on there is one of the times when Meghan almost flashes the camera.

@Aquagirl, that's a good point too. I think the main issue I have with the idea that it's not them is their body language in the video is actually what I'd expect from them. Although to be fair I'm now going to spend the day chuckling over the idea that Meghan's double had extensive notes telling her she had to get the cleavage in (can you tell that's one of the things that really stuck out to me - pun unintentional lol).
Magatha Mistie said…

DM reporting Jessica Mulroney is said to be “ distraught and devastated”
ditched by Meghan.
Do we believe this?
Snippy said…
Is she standing on a box or step stool? In her usual 5 inch heels the top of her head barely clears his shoulder.
bootsy said…
@Lurkingwithspoon
I watched the footage for a minute and also thought how she was staring at him was REALLY weird. Just imagine being in a conversation with someone and your partner just stared at you closely the entire time you were talking. It would be extremely off putting and would make me think that my partner is a bit of a psycho.
Stop staring at me!!
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Except it’s ironic because her arrogant #UglyAmerican behaviour during her time abroad & pissing on another country’s tradition is a modern-day example of cultural neo-colonialism.

But do carry on with the preaching. 🙏🏼

You should see how people like her behave when visiting Indonesia.

How about you “modernise” the Empire by NOT taking their historically problematic colonialist behaviours into 2020?

Global injustice is oversimplified by clueless people like Madame Markle and her English husband Just Pleb Harry.

The way I see it is like this, here is an excerpt from a blog post I'm currently drafting about how the BLM movement only highlighted the level of privilege American citizens have at the global scale:

"IDK why global injustices between developed countries and developing countries is somehow acceptable. the way i think of it is like segreation on a bus, except:

at the front of the bus, you can have Asian-Americans, African-Americans, white Americans, Native Americans, Americans of Middle-Eastern descent, Latinxs (with only the most privileged members of society getting the nice window seats)

at the back of the bus, there are Asians who come from Asia and Africans from the African continent, everyone else around the world, along with some underprivileged Caucasians (and then, of course, there’s the Crazy Rich Asians who get to buy their way into a window seat… but at the end of the day, it’s still only a window seat at the back of the bus, and it’s just not the same as being at the front of the bus.)

so while we;re moving away from colour-based segregation, the injustices and inequalities are still there. except now that it’s less colour-based thanks to a select “token PoC” at the front of the bus, it’s all cool.

it’s still a discrimantory system, but now just because there are a few BAME sitting at the front of the bus, suddenly it’s okay? and the speration is based on my having the wrong IP address and not based on skin colour, but it’s still discrimnation.

even the most marginalised people from those countries turn into bigoted monsters"


The blog post will be about how there was so much pressure for anyone on English social media to "say something" (post black squares etc) that middle class Jakartans started a fund raiser to donate funds to the US. Ignoring our own countrymen (dark-skinned Melanesian Eastern Indonesians in Papua) who are not only facing police brutality by the Western/Javanese-centric Indonesian police, but also the Indonesian government AND American mining companies in Papua. The most heart-breaking part of it was when some Eastern Indonesian tweeted, "it's nice that you (middle-class Jakartans) care about the BLM movement oh, but that stuff happens at home (Indonesia) too."

Papua was "my cause" as a UN intern, and I'm emotionally attached to it. And that just broke my heart.

Anyway sorry for rambling and going far to off topic. I'm only mentioning this because it pertains to colonlialism. THE NERVE these two have to talk about colonialism!! and I do plan on using Meghan's Behavior abroad as examples to make my point...

in particular of the time that she said the historic church she was meant to have her wedding at was too smelly for her... with her superhuman sense of smell, I'm surprised she seems to believe her s*** doesn't stink like everyone else's!!!!! 🌹

I'll go back to hiatus until August now.

I'm only posting right now because I think it's important to "shed a light" ✨ on the level of hypocrisy.

Sorry if I dont respond. I really can't stomach current events & the news. 🙏🏼 It's frustrating, I literally had to unfollow an American YouTuber the other day because he kept spewing anti-Asian sentiments & I non longer comment on CDAN.

Take care, be well, stay safe. 💜💜
Love this community, but just can't handle the state the world is in rn. 🙇🏻‍♀️🐈💔
Magatha - `Harry Haw Haw' -

Yes!!!

Being an Irish citizen didn't protect Lord Haw-Haw from being hanged for treason.

`Meghan is not a British citizen, and so the term 'treason' does not apply to her'

It would if she said it in Britain.

Unfortunately, she's got her hand up Harry's back and is pulling his strings. She's a bloody ventriloquist and Harry's her other doll.
Magatha Mistie said…

On their Commonwealth tour Megs gave a slight curtsy to the Queen of Tonga,
almost an afterthought.
Much like the “bob a job” she gave to HM at her wedding.
Rude and disrespectful.

Yet here she is, ready to right the wrongs of the Commonwealth.
I’d laugh out loud, but I’m drinking a rather good red.

Scandi Sanskrit said…
Oh and one last thing:

Global injustices aside,

Why was she pursing her lips like a kardashian?
Kanye just announced he's running for president.
Who watched David Olusuga's programme on the BBC last night? The final one in the Black and British series?

The story of Charles Wootton/Wootten being chased into the dock at Liverpool and drowning was uncomfortable - that was in 1919.

It paled, if I dare use that phrase, beside what was said about how the US Army brought its colour bar here with their black GIs in the Second War. White GIs reacted very badly when reminded that they had to obey British law when here, not the Jim Crow legislation.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Meghan! Remember, too, that the first legal statement that `no man could be a slave in Britain' was made in the late 17th century.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha 11.49am

Yes!! Here is hoping and praying 🙏 🤞
Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar

She needs to acquaint herself with William Wilberforce.
Staunch slave abolitionist, member of UK parliament.
In 1792, Wilberforce, buttressed by the support of hundreds of thousands
of British subjects who had signed petitions favouring the abolition of the slave trade,
put forward another motion.

The act was finally passed in 1833.
CatEyes said…
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Magatha Mistie said…
@Maneki

Metoo!! I still believe the Queen has what it takes 👑
CatEyes said…
@Wild Boar Battle-Maid

Sorry if you already pointed out Wm. Joyce was American.

William Joyce ('Lord Haw Haw') was born in America then when quite young his parents (Irish father, English Mother) moved to Ireland and in 1940 he allegedly received German citizenship. Hanged for broadcasting sympathetic diatribe supporting the Axis powers

So Meghan beware, if you committed a fraud on the BRF with surrogacy and thus tried to interfere with the line of succession. Treason may be in the offing.
Maneki Neko said…
Now Harry has made a new video for Sentebale (DM):

"Opening Ceremony of the AIDS 2020 Conference, the royal said: 'This year's theme is resilience, something all of us around the globe have understood, specifically in recent months. For many, digging deep to find that resilience has been a challenging experience.'"

Trust me, Harry, it has been for us too to endure you & your wife.

New buzz word, 'resilience'.

For once, he was filmed outside with trees in the background but it could be anywhere.
Magatha Mistie said…
I’m just pondering, probably the wine,
before I go to bed.

Royalty in regards to my family.
My Dad was ergh. Mum is still staunch,
as am I.
Three sisters, not really bothered, they like Kate
& Wills, think Megs is ok.
Nephew loves the Queen, niece, eh?
Husband, who? Daughter, who cares?
My son loves them.
I was doing research for a project and came across something interesting.

The etymology of Harry's name in old English.

harry (v.)
Old English hergian "make war, lay waste, ravage, plunder," the word used in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for what the Vikings did to England, from Proto-Germanic *harjon (source also of Old Frisian urheria "lay waste, ravage, plunder," Old Norse herja "to make a raid, to plunder," Old Saxon and Old High German herion, German verheeren "to destroy, lay waste, devastate"). This is literally "to overrun with an army," from Proto-Germanic *harjan "an armed force" (source also of Old English here, Old Norse herr "crowd, great number; army, troop," Old Saxon and Old Frisian heri, Dutch heir, Old High German har, German Heer, Gothic harjis "a host, army").


He certainly is living up to his name.
Miggy said…
PIERS MORGAN: You're right, Meghan, confronting inequality is uncomfortable – but not as uncomfortable as watching unemployed Harry lecturing the world about it from the comfort of your Hollywood mansion hideaway.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8497895/PIERS-MORGAN-Confronting-inequality-uncomfortable-watching-Harry-lecturing-world.html
Magatha Mistie said…
@Maneki

“Trust me, Harry, it has been for us too to endure to endure you & your wife”
Hahahaha

I think he’s mistaking resilience for intolerance,
our intolerance to his, and Megs views.
QueenWhitby said…
@Bootsy and @Jessica, your posts were very thought provoking, thank you.

I harken back to Elle, who always maintained the RF would let the Harkles hang themselves and leave no fingerprints and I think we’re seeing some of the set up for this - Charles announcing losses in the Duchy, layoffs of “hundreds” of palace staff, and slimming entitlements to minor Royals.

There are two things that will trip the Dumbartons up, one is money, and lack thereof. They are on a spending juggernaut, careening to financial ruin with lawsuits, PR, staff, clothing, plastic surgery, project development, IRS, etc. They can’t afford a home without decimating Harry’s trust, Hollyweird hasn’t rolled out the red carpet, and I think after the CWT video Harry Walker Agencies must realize they’ve backed a lame horse.

The second thing that will trip them up is the dossier on her past, and the provenance of Archie coming to light. The RF need that info out there, hopefully the lawsuits will do this for them and sway public opinion in the US. It must be shown how the actions of H&M belie their faux altruism, and what their true agenda really is. If the lawsuits don’t quite do this, the floodgates of the foreign press who aren’t hobbled by super injunctions will open afterwards, perhaps with the help of Jessica M seething in the wings? No dirty hands or fingerprints on the RF to let this all play out, and there is plenty of room for plausible deniabilty when it comes to Archie, all the RF need to say is they were bamboozled too and they followed the advice of medical professionals in protecting a vulnerable baby with two unstable parents.

The RF are softly, softly making moves and only when the Dumbos credibility is totally smashed can the RF act with impunity. They will justifiably withdraw funding, putting on the squeeze while simultaneously letting the Farkles run amok until they’re forced to come begging the Royal Bank to bail them out. That’s when the RF will swoop, and that’s why HM gave them a year. Bottom line, all Meggie wants to make her go away is a big settlement - the RF know it. It will be offered with the caveat that the Dumbartons voluntarily give up their titles. After all, they’ve renounced the foundations of Royalty in their own words so where’s the integrity and street cred with the woke crowd if they don’t renounce their colonial ties to racism and the toxic family and country that gave it to them?

The RF will continue to play the long game, and as many, many have commented here, Meg does not think things out, she is a short term strategist up against an institution that plays the long game like a Stradivarius. I’m sure the palace is seething over the CWT video, but telling the press otherwise is a brilliant move. No fingerprints, the RF supports the CW and lets the Farkles hang themselves in the court of public opinion. As a commonwealth member I, like many others, am incensed when they only very recently exploited my country with their white privilege - taking taxpayer money for security and telling us they are VIP’s and thus deserving. Absolute NAPALM grade hypocrisy.

Removing the titles now will just damage the RF further. They are still playing the “we’re doing all we can to help them” card, quietly refuting the damaging volleys sent from the Harkle camp, waiting for the lawsuit and the Dumbartons own actions to do their work for them. They are also simultaneously resolving the Andrew situation which needs to be finalized before handing Megan her walking papers, she’s a loose cannon waiting to go off on that one if she is thwarted.

I can wait to see how this plays out, I feel your despair @Fairy Crocodile and that is just the mood, displayed here and across other forums, that the RF needs to translate across the pond to deal finally and decisively with these two. The chess pieces aren’t quite in place yet but when they are the RF needs to make their move or they are finished. I hope important lessons for the future have been learned by Charles and William in all of this.
Anonymous said…
Extract frontiers Morgan DM article about the Harkles latest communication

'She (MM) continued: 'Because it's only in pushing through that discomfort that we get to the other side of this and find the place where a high tide raises all ships.'

This sounded very profound.

Then I remembered where I'd heard it before.

President John F. Kennedy famously said the words 'a rising tide lifts all boats' in a 1963 speech.

Meghan just forgot to credit him'

Anonymous said…
*Piers*
Nutty Flavor said…
Just a follow-up on the Althea Bernstein case - the (possible) hate crime victim who Meghan got in contact with and publicly supported.

Steve Sailer wrote another couple of short posts about it today:

Althea Bernstein was set on fire by "classic Wisconsin frat boys" wearing Hawaiian shirts. What will the next roving racist hate criminal gang be wearing? Dockers? Brooks Brothers sports coats?
https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1280274191879516161?s=20


Monday marks the 12th day since the horrifying and widely publicized news that a roving gang of Hawaiian-shirted white racist frat boys had set on fire Althea Bernstein, a biracial young woman in Madison, Wisconsin.

Even more alarmingly, the white-dominated news media, such as the New York Times and Washington Post, have completely stopped talking about this racist enormity perpetrated on the body of a young woman, Althea Bernstein, just for being biracial.

It's almost as if journalists, deep down, racistly suspect that Althea Bernstein's Hate Crime of the Century was actually merely just another hate hoax of the week.


https://unz.com/isteve/12-days-and-counting-since-classic-wisconsin-frat-boy-lighter-fluid-attack/

Meanwhile Matt Walsh, another conservative blogger who has 12x as many followers as Sailer (393,000 vs 32,000) also took up the case today.


Two weeks ago, the media breathlessly reported the story of Althea Bernstein, who claimed she was set on fire by four white men as she sat in her car at an intersection at 1 AM. She says they somehow shot lighter fluid into her car and then tossed a lighter.

The story is extremely bizarre. This roving band of racists was wandering around the city in the middle of the night with a spray bottle full of lighter fluid? And there are no other reported attacks by this terrifying gang? Nobody else witnessed them?

If this happened, it should be easy to prove. She should still have the lighter with their prints. And there should be some noticeable fire damage in her car. And given that this happened supposedly at an intersection in a city, there should be all kinds of surveillance footage.

Yet we've heard nothing about this case for two weeks. No video has been released. No witnesses have come forward. No one else had any encounter with the murderous, flame-wielding white supremacist gang. They have apparently vanished. It's almost like they never existed.


https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1280473667139506177?s=20
Maneki Neko said…
@QueenWhitby

'I harken back to Elle, who always maintained the RF would let the Harkles hang themselves and leave no fingerprints and I think we’re seeing some of the set up for this'
___________________________

I don't remember this but this is exactly was I was trying to say in my post this morning (10.12am). Let's just hope the BRF is working quietly and waiting in the wings. The blow will be all the harder as it will be delivered swiftly and suddenly 🙏.
Magatha Mistie said…
Thanks@Miggy

And thanks to Piers Morgan.
Welcome back!!
Thomas Clarkson, anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Clarkson

As a kid, I used to go for bike rides passing the memorial stone at Wadesmill, marking the point where he stopped en route from Cambridge to London, when he made his commitment to the Abolitionist cause. It's a good story, wiki is spot on.

Then there's John Newton, he who wrote Amazing Grace:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Newton

Then there's my ancestor, whoever he was, who must have lived as a free man in 18th century London. The sitter for Reynold's oil sketch, `Study of a black man' c1770, could easily be he. He closely resembles my aunt, mother of my mixed-race-looking cousin, with his wide cheek bones and long neck. Wishful thinking perhaps, but Mum's family lived in the right place, at the right time.

He is a noble figure, whether he is Francis Barber, associated with Dr Johnson, or Reynold's own servant. Yet I fear that celebrating him may also be seen as a curious inverted form of racism?


QCT,

I notice how un-representative of the Commonwealth these young leaders are. Clearly, she wouldn't include white Canadians, Aussies or Kiwis, for all that the last named struck me as working hard at establishing a non-British identity for themselves back in 2008-9 (Scots are OK 'cos they're `oppressed' too, I suppose).

Each of the other participants seemed to be of black African origin.

Members of the Commonwealth:
(https://thecommonwealth.org/)

Africa
• Botswana
• Cameroon
• Gambia, The
• Ghana
• Kenya
• Kingdom of eSwatini
• Lesotho
• Malawi
• Mauritius
• Mozambique
• Namibia
• Nigeria
• Rwanda
• Seychelles
• Sierra Leone
• South Africa
• Uganda
• United Republic of Tanzania
• Zambia
Asia
• Bangladesh
• Brunei Darussalam
• India
• Malaysia
• Maldives
• Pakistan
• Singapore
• Sri Lanka
Caribbean and Americas
• Antigua and Barbuda
• Bahamas, The
• Barbados
• Belize
• Canada
• Dominica
• Grenada
• Guyana
• Jamaica
• Saint Lucia
• St Kitts and Nevis
• St Vincent and The Grenadines
• Trinidad and Tobago
Europe
• Cyprus
• Malta
• United Kingdom
Pacific
• Australia
• Fiji
• Kiribati
• Nauru
• New Zealand
• Papua New Guinea
• Samoa
• Solomon Islands
• Tonga
• Tuvalu
• Vanuatu

Clearly, brown, pink or any other colour lives don't matter. What can we conclude from that? No, don't say, just think it.
Sarah said…
I think Charles is slow walking cutting funding from the Harkles. The stories about his income being negatively impacted by Covid and his plans to slim down the royal family are deliberate. When he cuts off the Harkles, it won’t be personal, it will be part of a larger plan. They can be like princess Madeline of Sweden who lives in Florida. Her kids have no titles and her husband has a job
Good Vibes Eternal - good work!

The Harrying of the North by William the Conquer is widely regarded as a genocide.

Any hope that H would turn out like Shakespeare's Prince Hal, who dumped Falstaff and reformed himself, have vanished in a puff of reefer smoke.
Good point, Sarah. A warning shot across the bows of their sinking ship, disguised as a breeches-buoy rocket to rescue Duchy finances.
HappyDays said…
GoodVibes Eternal said...
I am reluctantly coming round to the notion that MM is going to be around and be a thorn in the royal family's side for some time yet.

@GoodVibes Eternal:

Even if HMTQ, PC, or eventually William remove all of the Sussex’s titles given on the occasion of the wedding and she and Harry eventually divorce and Meghan reverts to just Meghan Markle, she will always find a way to be a thorn in the side of Harry and the RF. It will be a case of OTT narcissistic rage that will last her lifetime. And if she manages to get custody of Archie and any other children she one way or another manages to spew forth, she will attempt to poison their minds so much that they carry on her toxic legacy once she takes the eternal celestial dirt nap.

She will NEVER take her settlement, invest it wisely, and go away and lead a quiet life. Meghan profoundly narcissistic and just plain mean to not spend the remainder of her life portraying herself as the ultimate victim.
Apologies folks, about William Joyce. CatEyes is absolutely right.

It's taken me a long time to wake up today.
re the Bernstein case:

I came across a pic of Bugaloo Boys - no way they could be mistaken for Frat Boys.
Magatha Mistie said…
@QueenWhitby

You have said it all.
So very right on all aspects.
Elle did always say the RF would leave no fingerprints.
I’ve always believed in the long game,
frustrating as it is.

Thank you
Nutty Flavor said…
@Sarah, you're right about Madeline living in Florida with her husband, who has a job. Madeline was smart enough to marry rich, however. Harry married a broke actress.

All this talk about how much trouble the Sussexes are causing the Royal Family certainly punctures some of the conspiracy theories about Diana being off'd by the Royals.

If she was worth getting rid of just because she was dating a Muslim fellow, wouldn't the Sussexes be long past worth getting rid of? You could easily blame it on COVID-19.
lizzie said…
@Nutty,

Thanks for the update on Althea Bernstein. It looks like you may have been right the case will be allowed to die quietly. Kind of surprising to me but maybe journalists do realize it was likely a hoax.
Bennie said…
Just saw this article....
Meghan Markle teams up with Michelle Obama for special event
The Duchess of Sussex has an exciting upcoming engagement

Danielle StaceyJuly 07, 2020 - 15:23 BST


https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020070793014/meghan-markle-michelle-obama-girl-up-summit/
Nutty Flavor said…
Seems like a virtual event, and they'll be speaking at different times.

Sounds like the headline was written by Meg's PR team, though. I'm sure Michelle Obama is thrilled.
KCM1212 said…
@Pu ds

It won't even let me spell your name!!

Thank you! I had no idea such a thing was possible. I will find this feature and dismantle!




I like the idea of them being had for Interfering with the Succession with the Archie fraud.

An IRS case would be politically safer though.
from Yahoo News today:

Prince William and Harry split Diana Fund as brothers part ways
The Telegraph
Hannah Furness
The Telegraph 6 July 2020
Miggy said…
In the DM now..

Good practice for the public speaking career! Meghan Markle is announced as a keynote speaker at the Girl Up campaign's online leadership summit alongside Michelle Obama and Priyanka Chopra.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8498461/Meghan-Markle-announced-special-guest-Girl-campaigns-online-leadership-summit.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed
CookieShark said…
Hi Miggy, I saw that too.

It is interesting. PC stated publicly she had not met Archie after a story was floated last year. I also remember a story that MM had crashed MOs book signing and we all remember the "lunch" that was really over emails.

Is she copying MO?

@Wullie’s Bucket

My LCC book was in NYC a week ago. Five days ago it was in Miami. Today I got an update saying it is now in Jacksonville. I live in Wisconsin. WTH?
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,
Thank you, I am always amazed how witty, insightful and interesting you and other commenters (too many to mention) are here.

@Happy Days,
I agree with your comment and even if she doesn't get full custody of Archie she will do her utmost to manipulate and use him. The best would be if she would be a hands off mother like her own mother, Doria. Sadly Archie will be a useful pawn for her, poor Archie.
Miggy said…
@CookieShark,

Is she copying MO?

I don't know enough about MO to answer that.

Can you elaborate?
Fairy Crocodile said…
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Bennie said…
MM name is NOT on the list!!!! LoL

New Article....
Mrs. Obama Shares Special Message with the Girl Up Summit
Share Article

https://www.prweb.com/releases/mrs_obama_shares_special_message_with_the_girl_up_summit/prweb17214411.htm

Announced June 24…..
Also joining Mrs. Obama as part of the Girl Up Leadership Summit speaker line-up:
Nadia Murad, 2018 Nobel Peace Laureate, UN Goodwill Ambassador, and Founder and President of Nadia’s Initiative
Sheryl Sandberg, COO Facebook and Founder of LeanIn.Org and OptionB.Org
Storm Reid, Actress and Activist
Dr. Tererai Trent, Global Humanitarian, Author, Scholar and Educator
Monique Coleman, Emmy-Nominated Host, Actress, Champion for Young People
Liz Plank, Author, Activist and Journalist
Wade Davis, Thought Leader, Writer, Educator on Gender, Race, and Orientation Equality
Maneki Neko said…
Now Andrew Neil from the BBC has slammed H&M abt their video on the Commonwealth:

The discussion wasn't to telly firebrand Mr Neil's liking.

He took to Twitter to hit back at the Queen's grandson and his US actress wife.

He tweeted: "What is it that the Commonwealth has done wrong?

"And since they don’t live in it, what’s it got to do with them?"


Andrew Neil is a respected journalist who says it as it is.
Unknown said…
@Puds and any other Nutty having trouble with their text getting replaced with words they didn't type, you can turn off the auto-correct on your iPhone and iPad. If I make writing mistakes (which I do almost every time I post), I prefer my mistakes to be ones I actually made and not ones my cell or laptop wants me to make.

If you've got an iPhone or iPad, go to:
Settings > General > Keyboard
Then click the Auto-Correction toggle so it's not green.
lizzie said…
But she is listed on the link in the PR blurb
http://www.girlup.org/Summit
I expect she was a late addition.
Unknown said…
LOL @Wullie'sBucket Octomom indeed ;)

Thanks for understanding my mistake @abbyh @CatEyes.

@Bennie Wonderful find! I think Meg's article was a way to get a last-minute invite. The pattern of Rache never ceases to amaze me. She has no shame at all. Yuck!
Fairy Crocodile said…
To the esteemed Nuttiers who still think royals control this pile of bovine waste product and have a plan

There are reports that following Harry's comments Jamaica wants reparation payments for past slavery. They already tried to press for billions of pounds in reparations in 2015.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/jamaica-calls-britain-pay-billions-pounds-reparations-slavery

Harry has just given them the new ammunition.

Very well manged indeed. Commonwealth has just got markled.

Kisses to the Queen
Unknown said…
@tatty I think Meg did look better than she usually does. You could see she put a lot of effort into her appearance.

I don't think Harry looked that good. He was off to the side and washed out in the white shirt. I wish he'd embrace some color, especially cooler tones. I suspect Meg doesn't want him to outshine her visually. She's got a love affair for white button shirts. If Harry wore more complementary colors, eyes would go straight to him.

I cannot stand that yellow background and the lighting H&M insist on having. I get flashbacks to when I was knee deep in Russian Lit and the foreboding Dostoevsky wanted me to feel seeing the color yellow. The only time I like yellow is when Coldplay sings about it :)
Ròn said…
Johnny Depp is testifying in his case against Dan Wootton and The Sun. He states he married a “ narcissistic sociopath who only married him to advance her career....” Perhaps he and JCMH should meet up to compare notes.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Maneki Neko

There are some seasoned royal reporters who just about understand where this royal train wreck can potentially end.

Too bad Harry is still speaking about matters he has zero clue about and zero understanding of. To give you just one example of the huge can of worms he opened - black people also had slaves. Below is the article from Jamaica Observer. It was an eye opener to me.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/the-agenda/jamaica-s-best-kept-secret-blacks-owned-slaves_183096?profile=1096
xxxxx said…
######## Things getting tight at the Monarchy. Duchy income down with many rent deferrals. More reason to cut Harry's allowance.
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Hundreds of royal staff 'are being axed with up to 250 offered voluntary redundancy' after coronavirus hits tourism income leaving £18million black hole in Queen's finances
The Royal Family are feeling the financial effects of the coronavirus pandemic
Between 175 and 250 royal staff are facing voluntary redundancies this month
There are doubts over whether the Queen will ever return to Buckingham Palace

Furthermore, the Royal Collection Trust has deferred its annual fee to the Royal Household as there is no income from tourism.

It is therefore predicted that the Trust is set to lose £30million by the end of the 2020/21 period due to the virus.

As a result, the Trust will also offer voluntary redundancies to up to 650 staff, including caterers, office staff and wardens, with their wages paid in full.

A Royal Collection Trust spokesperson said: 'The Covid-19 pandemic has posed by far the greatest challenge to Royal Collection Trust in the charity's history.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8496349/Hundreds-royal-staff-axed-250-offered-voluntary-redundancy.html
Boomshakalaka said…
Dear Nutties
Long time lurker here, first time blogger. May I say how much I love reading this blog - what a lifesaver it’s been during recent times.
I’m clearly not alone in wondering what the mystery is surrounding the provenance of Master Archie. So on the topic of HMTQ removing the hapless couple’s titles, what of their titles and why doesn’t Archie have one?
Can anyone believe that MM refused him a title on principle, so that he could live a “normal“ life. No way, not for a second. She LOVES being royal, positively THRIVES on it. HRH and Sussexroyal had to be prised from her claws. Why would she want her precious child to be plain, common Master Archie when she is a Princess of The United Kingdom. Someone of the highest order in the land and the commonwealth.
So what were the options for baby Archie. 1. Prince - First choice for MM and that’s what she thought he would be. I bet there was some serious foot stomping and tea throwing when she was told that wasn’t possible. 2. Earl of Dumbarton - MM would NEVER have him called that - “DUMB? DUMB? WTF Harry! Tell your grandma GF herself “. So the last choice, Harry’s other title given to him on his marriage 3. Baron Kilkeel. Better than nothing some might say. But wait, what do we know about Kilkeel? Kilkeel is a town in Northern Ireland and takes its name from the old church overlooking the town. The church was thought to be the the principle church in a group which included KILMEGAN and Kilcoo. Kilkeel is known to have been visited by Prince Charles and Camilla.
Was someone having fun when they were dishing out titles to this pair?
CookieShark said…
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Bennie said…
Couldn't agree more @ CookieShark!!!!! I know I wouldn't want my daughters listening to her word salad!!! She's EVIL & LIES!!! I don't believe anything she says!!! Absolutely nothing!!!
Hikari said…
@Maneki

Thanks for providing Mr. Neil's Tweets on the latest Dumbarkle affair. I'm reproducing them again because it makes me smile.

He took to Twitter to hit back at the Queen's grandson and his US actress wife.

He tweeted: "What is it that the Commonwealth has done wrong?

"And since they don’t live in it, what’s it got to do with them?"

Andrew Neil is a respected journalist who says it as it is.


*********

I think I begin to glean the BRF stategy here. They will sit by, seemingly impregnable to Dumfarkle dumfoolery, though behind Palace walls I'm sure there is real human emotion, seething and gnashing, et al. Though not so that any but the very most trusted staff would know. The Royals are doing that 'duck feet' thing which William alluded to before . . feet churning madly below the surface while up above, unruffled serentity is all that shows.

They will use the 'mean old tabloid press' whom the Dumfarkles are currently (unsuccessfully) suing to express their outrage while officially remaining completely undisturbed. If H. & M.'s (mostly M.'s) intent is to bait her opponents and make them lash out so they can be branded as racists some more, her slings are going to bounce harmlessly off this soft pillowy target the RF is presenting.

"Oh, Meg and Harry arranged a video conference call with some youth leaders from the Commonwealth. How nice. Well, Meg always promised to hit the ground running, with the Commonwealth in particular. We hope she continues to run with it as far as she can possibly go (away). Her Majesty is available for a FaceTime chat with Master Archie; Meg just has to give the word."

Meanwhile their true contempt is veiled. Bet they smiled at Mr. Neil's use of "the Queen's grandson and his US actress wife". Notice . . not only no HRHs .. no Sussex, no Duke/Duchess, not even 'Prince Harry'. Harry wanted to be called "Just Harry" (only he didn't really, it was just more words to make him sound better, like one of the ordinary blokes. Only, Mr. Neil doesn't even use his first name. 'The Queen's grandson"--just a little dig/reminder to ex-Baron Dumfarkle that being the Queen's grandson is the *only* reason anybody was interested in him, the only reason he mattered at all, and he's gone and resigned from the family.

Her Dumfarkle Highness must be seething at 'US actress'. It's what she came in with and it's all she'll be leaving with if the RF has anything to say about it.

I think the Dumfarkles will be lulled into a false sense of being untouchable until the end of their review year, which just so happens to coincide with the planned takeover from Charles of most of the sovereign's day-to-day duties, if he has not already done so. The dampening down of the entitlements will begin in earnest then, I imagine. Hopefully sooner, but they are making sure that rope is good and sturdy.
CatEyes said…
@Wild Boar battle Maid

You are just the Best Poster so I certainly didn't want to be 'right' about Wm. Joyce. Love your amazing knowledge of history, all things Great Britain especially everyday life, zany yet modest humor and personal stories like the grey hair bicycling incident recently recounted.

@abbyh
Thank you for your post and the Lightening map which I will use as we get a lot here in NE TX.
Bennie said…
Another News article about Andrew Neil...

"Andrew Neil confronts Meghan Markle and Harry on video – 'what’s it got to do with you?"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1306103/meghan-markle-BBC-news-Andrew-Neil-prince-harry-commonwealth-video-royal-news-latest
M.A. said…
This two are dumbasses. While Im not from a Commonwealth's country, my country is an ex colony and even after 200 years, its possible to feel the scars left by colonialism here. I can only imagine that in countries that gain their liberty less than 70 years ago would too. A discussion it is needed? Sure, it wont change anything, but one can learn from history if willing. But its not their discussion to be have and their sense of entitled irks me so much. R

A mostly white, rich couple saying that it must be a discussion is rather condensing if they are talking to people in those country that once were a colony. We know our struggles and history. We dont need your enlightment, last time we were enlighten 75% of our native population end up dead thankyouverymuch. Its not much better if they are talking to the England considering that they ""belong"" to the family that benefit the most of it, the regular joe had no saying on the actual system and they dont want nor deserve a lecture from people who did benefit from it.

This could have real political impact, in a very negative way. I know that they dont actually care about the Commonwealth or an actual discution, they just want to pat themself on the back all the way to the bank.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ M.A.

Thank you for saying it. "The regular Joe had no say in how the system was run and didn't benefit from it"

You just nailed it why people in UK are so angry with the Harkles. Two overprivileged puffed up nobodies lecturing others from their undeserved dukedoms while funded by the most privileged family in the world.

It would be ridiculous if it wasn't so ugly.
Yes, Boomshakalaka, we rather think they enjoyed the jokes- probably the most fun the Royals have had out of this dismal couple.

Briefly, the rule now (from before M came on the scene) is that gt-grandchildren don't automatically get title of prince/princess. This has to be specifically bestowed by HM issuing Letters Patent.

HM has done this for the Cambridge children.

`Sussex' is a tainted title, not as bad as Windsor or Cumberland - a previous Sussex duke blotted his copybook relatively mildly by their standards.

`Dumbarton' - we've had many a laugh about this.

`Kilkeel''s - not quite so obvious but it used to be in the Barony of Mourne. I hadn't heard of Kilmegan (best not comment on that) - both are in Co Down.

I wonder if it's significant that all the places in his titles are on the edge of their respective countries? Whether almost in the sea/Clyde (Kilkeel, Dumbarton & Sussex) or almost in another country (Kilkeel). Trying symbolically to push them out?

Archie is a laugh too- apart from referring to Archie Andrews (the English one is a better fit than the US - ginger ventriloquist's doll).

There was an Archibald somewhere in royal history but he didn't cover himself in glory either.
They clearly do not understand that the Commonwealth, as it currently exists, is not

a)the Commonwealth of the 17th century which was, in effect, a republican military dictatorship,

nor

b)The British Empire.

It is a free association of nations, including a significant number of independent democratic republics.
Gosh, thanks, dear Nutties, for the kind comments.

I know that I just have to tell it how it seems to me. Come the Revolution, I expect to be the first who's put up against the wall and shot!
lizzie said…
@WBBM wrote "They clearly do not understand.. the Commonwealth, as it currently exists..."

I expect the you are quite correct. H&M are factually incorrect on a number of occasions when they spout off. But they are counting on their "fans" being uneducated too.

And that seems to often be true. For example, I can't believe most people who know anything about the RF thought it made an iota of sense to bring up the York sisters in the court filings. Obviously they aren't working royals and never have been. But M is counting on her low-information teenage mentality fans to think "yeah, how unfair just because the Yorks are white." Nor did it make any sense to make that silly claim about generating £1billion for the "public purse" from the wedding. Leaving aside that tourism figures do exist and they don't support that contention, only an economic idiot would think money from tourism = the public purse.
KCM1212 said…
From The Spectator


We need to talk about Prince Harry
He's started to resemble a captured dignitary forced to spout horrifying woke propaganda
Damian Reilly
July 07,2020

Harry. It’s why over the years we’ve indulged his excesses and grown so disproportionately proud of his achievements. We know he’s not the brightest, but we’ve watched him emerge from a childhood defined by tragedy and we feel protective of him.

It’s also the reason we find the internet videos in which he now keeps appearing like a captured dignitary forced to spout woke propaganda so horrifying. To us, they’re proof positive we’ve been usurped. Harry has married an American woman who seems to have turned him into a sort of west-coast liberal zombie.

Yesterday, in a joint video statement with his wife Meghan, he apologised for the British Commonwealth itself – the sizable vestige of Empire for which his dear old granny, the queen, is meant to be the living embodiment. Looking shiftily at the camera, he said: “There’s no way to move forward unless we acknowledge the past… and try to right those wrongs.”

Last week, he was at it again, repeating verbatim the strange mea culpa his wife had previously issued for not having ‘got the world to the place where you deserve it to be’ – as if we, the lumpenproletariat, expect the British royal family to heal humanity.

We need to talk about Harry. He seems to have lost his once characteristic self-confidence. Where previously he was reliably lively, now he appears brainwashed to speak exclusively in platitudes about ‘coming together’. What happened to the fun-loving rogue? And, more specifically, who is responsible for his comprehensive reprogramming?

It seems laughable now that, when she was living in England, Megan Markle largely adhered to royal protocol that dictated she rarely spoke publicly. Yes, we heard rumours she was wildly unpopular with courtiers, but we never heard much from her directly.

Now she is on home soil, hasn’t that changed? Rather than deferring to him during public appearances, she seems not only to script the words her husband says but she finishes his sentences when she thinks he is rambling.

KCM1212 said…
Part Two

The Hollywood love gaze she bestows upon him, too, for the duration of these short films can seem somewhat belied by the speed at which she is prepared to cut him off, and by the submission to her his body language implies.

I wonder, what does Megan really want? Do we take her at her word and believe she seeks merely global peace and harmony following resolution of all global injustice, both current and historic?

Or do we consider she is a highly ambitious woman and harbours secret goals of high office?

“A high tide raises all ships,” she said yesterday. Does she think it’s a tide that could be surfed all the way to the White House? The fact that, at her side, is a converted, tamed, and now penitent member of the least woke and most quintessentially white privileged family on the planet is certainly testament to the forcefulness of her character.

And what next for Harry? He is now living in LA, separated from his family, his friends and his country. Additionally, he has lost his jobs as a royal and as an official representative of his beloved British Army. His world has been turned upside down. Perhaps he feels his suffering is just part of his long journey of atonement. Or is the real Harry screaming to get out?

All mothers of boys secretly fear the arrival of the girl who will turn their son against them, first by capturing his heart, then by filling his head with poison. For better or worse, Harry has made his choices and in his motherland we are powerless to do anything other than wince.
Christine said…
Hello All-

I'm in agreement with all of you. And it's a depressing outlook... I keep reading on the DM that Harry has a foot out the door and I 100% disagree. Watching H&M's latest video, those two are in DEEP together. I do not mean this literally (hope to God) but it's akin to a suicide pact. Here's what I mean- They know they have to get something cooking for themselves fast, before Charles becomes king. I do feel that maybe Elizabeth isn't as well or capable as she used to be. Meghan has moved to defcon 5 and she convinces Harry that they have to go all out to make a big splash. Their underlying anger towards the Royal Family is now completely out in the open. I hate watching their videos. What Harry has turned into is so depressing. I wonder if he cracks a smile even at his son anymore. It's gross and pathetic. So clear that Meghan is emotionally abusive. That stare that she gives him, she wants it to look admiring and affectionate but instead it looks creepy and controlling to me. Like she's willing him to say what she demanded that he say.

So yeah. There will be no Sussex divorce coming soon. They know that's what people expect and are hoping for. The two of them are 100% in it together. Whether you view Meghan as the influencer and Harry the follower (the most likely scenario) or both of them egging one another on. We'll get more stupid woke videos with people gullible enough to talk with them, more scandalous PR stories, more books... all while Elizabeth and Charles appear to do nothing. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. I do not believe any of them speak to Harry. I don't buy the stories of the weekly convos that Harry and William have. They probably speak from time to time

KCM1212 said…
hey! here is a handy twitter link to GirlsUp leadership summit!

https://girlup.org/programs/leadership-summit
KCM1212 said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1306328/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-titles-Duchess-of-Sussex-Duke-royal-news-latest
KCM1212 said…
These videos may be more damaging to the reputation and gravitas of the Sussexes than the private plane debacle.

As with the jets, they have again outed how completely hypocritical they are.

KCM1212 said…
sorry, forgot link

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1306328/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-titles-Duchess-of-Sussex-Duke-royal-news-latest

I'll stop now
Bennie said…
Article from The Telegraph....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/harry-meghan-lacking-awareness-call/


Harry and Meghan are lacking in the very awareness they call for

It's hard to take a lecture from a prince who has benefitted from unearned privilege since the day he was born

Allison Pearson7 July 2020 • 7:00pm


Harry and Meghan are lacking in the very awareness they call for

It's hard to take a lecture from a prince who has benefitted from unearned privilege since the day he was born

Allison Pearson7 July 2020 • 7:00pm
Be honest, what was your reaction to the latest Cash and Harry video? The one in which the Sussexes hold forth on righting the wrongs of the “uncomfortable” Commonwealth. The same Commonwealth that Harry’s grandmother calls “a very special family” and which Her Majesty has spent the past 73 years loving and serving without any apparent discomfort. Quick, get Granny on an unconscious bias training course!
As Harry spoke fluent Woke and Meghan gazed at him with a look of terrifying, moist-lipped sincerity, I thought, “Just pay the ransom. Please. Whatever it costs, let’s get him out of there.”

Should we send in the SAS to extract him? Probably not. Alas, our cheeky prince is no more. He has been taken over by this earnest handwringer who use phrases like “move forward” without rolling his eyes and falling about laughing.

“I thought it was Spitting Image puppets doing a parody,” said my friend the Princess Diana fan. Nope, perfectly real, I’m afraid.

Meghan and Harry are always calling for more “awareness”, a quality the couple seems to sorely lack. Even a whit of self-knowledge might have suggested the following:
a. Possibly not a good idea to weigh in on white privilege when you are His Royal Highness Henry Charles Albert David, the Duke of Sussex, The Earl of Dumbarton and Baron Kilkeel and have benefitted from unearned privilege since the day you were born. Basically, your ancestors have been oppressing people since the Norman Conquest. Say nothing.
b. You were supposedly thinking of living in Africa to do some good for your causes. Instead, you ended up in an $18 million mansion on the Beverly Ridge Estate in Los Angeles. It is quite a diverse community, with a lot of non-white people watering the gardens and cleaning the pools.

c. This makes you look spoilt and vacuous and is not the ideal base from which to lecture others on equality and social progress. Oh, and doing all your Zoom calls in front of a plain adobe wall in the maid’s room is fooling no one.

d. On your marriage, HM thoughtfully made you President and Vice-President of the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust youth organisation. Perhaps consider how a 94-year-old might feel before publicly criticising one of her life’s proudest legacies.

e. That bit about wanting a quieter life and not seeking the attention of the dreadful, intrusive media?

Still a good plan.
hunter said…
I have to serve Michelle some serious side-eye when she is co-guesting events with Priyanka Chopra and Miz Markle, that's not great company.
HappyDays said…
Sarah said…
I think Charles is slow walking cutting funding from the Harkles. The stories about his income being negatively impacted by Covid and his plans to slim down the royal family are deliberate. When he cuts off the Harkles, it won’t be personal, it will be part of a larger plan. They can be like princess Madeline of Sweden who lives in Florida. Her kids have no titles and her husband has a job

@Sarah: Gosh, I hope your theory is correct. It gives spineless Charles an easy out to explain why funding to the Sussexes must be cut, especially with the news today about the hundreds of staff reductions due to royal belt tightening as a result of the negative financial impact of the COVID-19 virus. At nearly 36 and 39 years old, the Harkles will have to suck it up like most of everybody else and make do with less or actually go out and EARN a living.

hunter said…
@Boomshakalaka - welcome!

Yes HM The Queen was taking the piss when she awarded all those titles and everybody knows it.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Hunter

Mark my words, Michelle Obama will be markled if she shares a platform with Markle. Don't know how, don't know when, but it will happen.

Every single person or institution that got involved with the Skid Markle was.
Christine said…
I do get the stress that the Queen and Charles are under. They love Harry, they want a connection with Harry and his son but they cannot possibly tolerate what H & M are currently doing. It gets down to an intrinsic family thing. But geez, Meghan won't let up, so Charles has to act and act fast.

The thought of Markle and Michelle Obama together gives me the chills. I hope Mrs. Obama is smarter than that. Markle will skewer her!
hunter said…
@Fairy Crocodile - I don't disagree but I'd think she would have better sense. Plus we all know Priyanka is a terrible human being, so it all gives me the bad feels of fakery.
Mel said…
Blows me away that mm thinks she is a peer to Michelle Obama. But on the other hand she thinks she's a peer to Queen Elizabeth, too
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