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Meghan, Harry, and Community Property in California

This is what happens when I take too long to write a post. My original idea - that Meghan and Harry should consider purchasing one of the "cheap old houses" popular on Instagram and fix it up as part of a reality series - seems to have been overtaken by events.

Page Six is reporting today that Meghan and Harry already have a house in Santa Barbara, near Oprah and Ellen's pads, and in fact have been living there for at least six weeks. (This is not entirely unexpected; Harry's most recent hostage video had a different background than usual.)

"This is the first home either of them has ever owned," writes the couple's PR agent via Page 6. "It has been a very special time for them as a couple and as a family - to have complete privacy for six weeks since they moved in."

They could probably still be having complete privacy if the couple's PR team wasn't leveraging their real estate news in order to promote the new book "Finding Freedom" - which the Sussexes, of course, insist they had nothing to do with. 

Bad timing

Meg must be a little peeved that the timing of the house announcement conflicted with bigger news about another biracial Californian; it was announced late yesterday that Kamala Harris would be the Democratic nominee for US Vice President.

You can almost hear Meg's screams in her publicity team's hastily-concocted story headlined Meghan Markle reveals why she's voting in the 2020 election. (Spoiler: it's because she wants her "voice to be heard.") 

Roughly 130 million Americans voted in the last election, so I look forward to Page Six's in-depth accounts of why the other 129,999,999 will be voting this time. 

Paired with the fact that Megan Thee Stallion is rapidly becoming America's most famous Megan (with Meghan McCain probably in second place) and the news cycle just isn't being kind to the Duchess of Sussex.

Community property

Anyway, what interests me most about the Page Six story is the quote that "this is the first home either of them have owned." 

Could Harry - or Charles, who probably provided the downpayment if not the full purchase price - really have been dumb enough to put the house partly in Meghan's name? 

First of all, there would seem to be obvious tax benefits as well as privacy benefits to putting the house in the name of a corporation, and Meg seems to have registered several over the years through her business manager. By this time, there must be a corporation in which Meg and Harry are both directors - Archewell? 

Secondly, any good financial manager would plan carefully when a married couple purchases a significant asset - particularly a couple with two different citizenships and two different tax liabilities. Even moreso when the family strongly suspects the marriage might not last. 

Could Meg possibly have convinced Harry to make her an equal partner in a home that was financed by his family or his inheritance?

I'm no lawyer, but California is famous for its 50-50 community property settlements

While these aren't fully in force unless the marriage has lasted 10 years, it seems clear that Meg would be able to walk away with at least half of any house that had her name on it.

What do you think?

Comments

AnyaAmasova said…
@Wullie'sBucket
I do believe she was kicked out. I also believe Harry was given an ultimatum. He chose to go because he believes he has a way back in, a safety net. Why not hang in California for a year to two. See what's up? He is an idiot after all. He can not see how diminished he is. Is it his petulance and sense of entitlement or does she really have him all tied up?

What I really can not fathom is that though Harry won the big lottery (~7.5B people on the planet and he was born #2), yet he was not satisfied. It wa not enough. He was only envious of PW for being born first. Geez, if I had been born #2 I would be working my tail off everyday serving the UK constituents and helping out where ever I could. I would also thank my lucky stars to have professional people advising me on how to go about things in support of my grandmother and family.
Hikari said…
@Sandie,

Was there any statement fromBNP about a 12-month review? I thought that was misinformation put out by the Harkles. The March visit had an air of finality about it. The Queen said they would always be family. She has many beloved family members who are not working royals not supported from the British taxpayer in any way ...

I have always been under the impression after the Sandringham Summit that the 12-month review was instituted by the Queen. Elizabeth R. is a conciliatory person and as both sovereign and grandmother, she evidently still wished to give a favored grandson a soft landing. The Harkles did list this offer on their ungracious/whiny recapping of Megxit, but the initial offer did come from BP.

According to this piece in The Sun, referencing a passage in the Harkle's own mouthpiece, Finding Freedom, Harry was so keen to be gone that he rejected the 12-month review, or wanted to. It's now a bit hazy whether or not it will be going forward. Hazmat and Smut have certainly not been keeping their noses clean and abiding by the terms of the agreement not to exploit their royal titles or otherwise live in such a manner so as to not embarrass the Queen. They never had any intention of being cooperative and are still whinging over their grievances, like Harry being stripped of his military titles and associations.

WT Freaking Flying Flip did they expect? They want to refuse to be Royals while still holding onto all the goodies--money, housing, security, patronages & titles.

If there is to be NO 12-month review, then apparently, what we've got now is going to be the Way It Is ad infinitum for as long as these two stay married. So--Everything which the duo was agitating for circa January 2019 at the time of the bust up of the Fab Four/RF--their independent Sussex Court and jet-set lifestyle as part-time Royals, doing all the glam jobs and big events of the Royal calendar, with nothing more modest or boring--has come to pass. Told No, they just went ahead and did what they wanted anyway.

Based on how the Commonwealth Service went, it seems a certainty that neither of them will be welcome ever again on the balcony or at any of the high profile events.

My only hope, in the absence of a public stripping of titles/funds and an essential 'disownnment' publicly is that it has in fact already happened behind the scenes, and this latest showboating move with the house is Woke and Joke showing off that 'We don't need you == nyah, nyah.'

My guess is that Charles has quietly taken care of the Frogmore payments and is resigned to kissing that money goodbye. As to the true status of the Slimy Sussexes . . who the hell knows. I have long admired Elizabeth despite the messiness of her family . .but if the Crown will not deal with a couple of grifting traitors and starve this insurrection of its fuel, than on behalf of the beleagered British people, I say it's time for a Republic.
Hikari said…
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1210241/prince-harry-meghan-markle-12-months-review-finding-freedom-book/

Here's the link which I forgot to put in.
LavenderLady said…
@CatEyes,

I've tried but they come out very corny :(
Plus my sense of humor can be very wicked and I'm in trouble enough! Lol...


I've often thought if I were a man I'd be John Lennon. I have this sardonic side to me that can be not very nice-my shadow self as it is called,which we all have. I do a lot of spiritual work to counteract my sardonic tendencies in my communication style.

Men seem to be able to get away with that more than women although Joan Rivers was a master at it. For a nobody like me, it can alienate. Just sayin...

(Nutties, sorry if I've offended anyone, hugs)

You and Magatha are both as good at poems- you each have a different slant. You both get a larf off of me on a regular basis!
AnyaAmasova said…
@Hikari,
Do you think Harry will be allowed back in for say HRH PP's funeral when the time comes? Will he be in uniform and allowed to participate? What about HMTQ? Sorry to be gruesome. And, what about Dad's coronation? PW's Investiture? I agree with you that Megs will not ever be seen on a balcony again.

Also, after HMTQ's death, technically "Archie" whatever he/she/it is or is not, will be listed as #6, now in the jurisdiction of all of the laws. I can see Megs updating the Wiki before HMTQ takes her last breath. At some point the good people of the UK will demand to understand more about "Archie" and its beginnings.
LavenderLady said…
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Hikari said…
@CatEyes

Your effort made me smile.

I for one not lay a cent
on his swimmers
be they potent and regal.


'Potent' and 'regal' have never described Harry, sadly and now they sure don't. He is the very essence of impotent and venal. IF there is an Archie, I'd lay my money on him being Meg's but not Harry's. Her Narcissism would demand that her egg be used, and she had some handy in cold storage in Toronto? Why hie there within weeks of the wedding? I really doubt it was to 'visit friends' whom she had only just seen a month before at her wedding.

MA is a plausible Daddy, or perhaps some ginger uni student who resembled Harry. The real Haz has always seemed to have been sandbagged by his questionable contribution to this enterprise. Maybe he can't, and knows he can't. Or Megsie just had no intention of delaying her anchor baby for the agreed-to 1-2 year period. Harry seemed very confused at his wife's 'pregnancy' for someone allegedly involved in it.
LavenderLady said…
@Cat Eyes,
Larf, a great word I picked up off the DM comments. I love the way it sounds so I use it :D

With that said, George is my favorite Beatle. IMO he was the most gorgeous in his hippie days and his spirituality/outlook on life. Plus he was a talented man who I feel did not get enough credit for his work as Lennon and McCartney. Though I love all the Beatles.

Julian Lennon is a beautiful man. Just a gorgeous soul. His mom did an amazing job raising him. His dad was a #$#@.

OT alert. Carry on. Will go back to reading.

Have a great day everyone!
NeutralObserver said…
Insight into Megs' mind? Several months ago, Sandie directed us to a pre-Harry interview of Megs, in which she said her favorite dance song was Murder on the Dance Floor. Below is Wikipedia's description of the video that went with the song. It's a hoot. I copied and pasted, I don't spell center that way. LOL.

Music video
The music video was directed by Sophie Muller and it centres around a dance competition. The winner's prize consists of a pair of golden high-heel shoes and a substantial amount of money. Desperate to win, Ellis-Bextor proceeds to sneakily injure and disqualify the majority of the other dancers. She causes one to slip on butter, before tripping up another, who sees her do it and angrily points at her to no avail. Next she slyly poisons a trio of potential rivals by spiking the punch during a refreshment period and then unstraps a female contestant's clothes causing her to run off. She finally frames a male dancer for cheating on his partner, by planting a G-string on his person; this results in his partner slapping him and exiting the dance floor.

Ellis-Bextor then turns her attention to the trio of judges. By using what seems to be chloroform, she incapacitates the only female judge on the panel. Once the competition is down to the final four couples, Ellis-Bextor notices that the lead judge (played by Colin Stinton) has a weak spot for beautiful women. Using this to her advantage, Ellis-Bextor approaches him when he is alone at the judging table and seduces him. Lovestruck, the lead judge succeeds in persuading the remaining judge to have Ellis-Bextor declared the winner, much to her fellow dancers' disapproval.

The video concludes with the other dancers grudgingly applauding (before promptly deserting) Ellis-Bextor and her dance partner, as she happily clutches her cash prize and the golden shoes on the winner's podium.
Shaggy said…
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Hikari said…
@Anya

@Hikari,
Do you think Harry will be allowed back in for say HRH PP's funeral when the time comes? Will he be in uniform and allowed to participate? What about HMTQ? Sorry to be gruesome. And, what about Dad's coronation? PW's Investiture? I agree with you that Megs will not ever be seen on a balcony again.


I think Harry will be invited back to attend his grandparents' funerals, and the eventual one of his father, presuming he himself is still with us. At the rate he's going, even PP might outlast him. This would be done at Charles' command though I doubt William would be happy about it. I suppose the same conditions will be in place for Harry as were extended to the Duke of Windsor: He attends alone, without his wife, and certainly not in uniform. In a black suit. And then he boards the first available flight and gets the hell out of the country.

Also, after HMTQ's death, technically "Archie" whatever he/she/it is or is not, will be listed as #6, now in the jurisdiction of all of the laws. I can see Megs updating the Wiki before HMTQ takes her last breath. At some point the good people of the UK will demand to understand more about "Archie" and its beginnings.

Over the mysterious Archie there is drawn a veil which is too much for my poor noggin. Personally I do not believe Meghan gave birth to a child or has one with her. Any surrogate child was either kept by the gestational mother, who is the true legal mother according to British law, or else was adopted by another family. I am leaning against 'Archie' being cared for on the QT by royal family members as it would be just too hard to sustain that long-term. Servants talk. The family might be paying for his care, but if so, the child is being raised far from palace walls and under another name. If there is a child with Harry's DNA, this might be done. If Harry is not the father, then Meg is guilty of adultery. Either way, I think 'Archie' is why she was hustled out of the Firm.
HappyDays said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
The following excerpts are from The Telegraph:

Prince Harry faces prospect of hefty tax bill in California, expert warns
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's new lifestyle in California is likely to cost several million a year in bills, security and tax
By Victoria Ward
16 August 2020 • 7:22pm

@Lt. Nyota Uhura: Thank you for kindly copying and posting this article from the Telegraph.
Hikari said…
also to add to the above, Harry will henceforth have no public role in any ceremonial occasions. If he attends, it will be as an audience member only. No eulogies, speeches, patronage visits, etc. IF he is allowed to return to England and be housed at Crown expense, he will be on a par with Andrew--tolerated but not seen. The shine is off his star, whether or not he realizes it. He's got to be as loathed now as Andrew. The Royals cannot allow him to be their face again.

At this point, the best thing for Harry is to disappear into the wilds of deepest Africa and never be heard from again.
abbyh said…
Nutty -

Maybe a new topic of have they been kicked out?

So much to say wow about.

YankeeDoodle - your family is/was really good people for stepping at the time of need. very impressed and moved at this (clapping).

Sheep - so cute (want). Thanks for the comment about cashmere. I will remember that and notice where my yarn is sourced next time.

The interview - notice that you don't see his co-author really out there flogging the book, making the talk show rounds. Thanks for the note about how the video rolls on.

I do seem to remember when that story first started making the rounds, something about how Angela wasn't even in London at the time.

So, I find it odd that M allegedly . Really odd story. I doubt they would have just let her wander about on her own while they were trying to figure things out. And, that this kept happening to her such that JH had to step in to make things happen. I'm just having difficulty buying in the idea that the appointments were really set up on both sides (without the not in London story factored in). And that it kept happening (which is supposed to be clear signs of how the Palace was out to make her life difficult). Consistently. That just does not sound like the well oiled BRF staff.

I could see, on the other hand, someone calling in and saying that they would be at a certain place at a certain time and not really pay attention/notice that it might not be convenient on the other side. Especially if you are under the impression that staff is there to make your every wish come true.

Or, is it possible that contacting Angela didn't really happen that way? Banking on the Never complain, never explain?

That Never c/e, I suspect that if the assistant who left (that no one according O liked mentions not quite names) really was not liked, then the Palace would be trying to smooth over the wrinkles caused by the leaving. But then again, saying the person was not liked by everyone could also be a cheap spite shot at someone bound by an NDA.

All the poetry is very witty.
abbyh said…

opps, part got deleted

So, I find it odd that M allegedly would just show up at the Palace for an appointment and Angela was not there. Really odd story. I doubt they would have just let her wander about on her own while they were trying to figure things out. And, that this kept happening to her such that JH had to step in to make things happen. I'm just having difficulty buying in the idea that the appointments were really set up on both sides (without the not in London story factored in). And that it kept happening (which is supposed to be clear signs of how the Palace was out to make her life difficult). Consistently. That just does not sound like the well oiled BRF staff.
Shaggy said…
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I don’t know how the RF could exclude Meghan from the funeral of PP or HM without provoking more accusations of racism against them. And due to the fact that PC has been suckered into supporting M and Harry in their legal actions against the media, it seems all but a given that he would not have the guts or good sense to make Harry take a backseat at such an occasion.
Shaggy said…
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NeutralObserver said…
First, apologies to anyone of Russian descent whom I might have offended by my 'Russian' comments, some of which were jokes. I think most of us aren't too fond of people who amass huge fortunes without thought to their fellow citizens, particularly ones from a regime which was founded on class resentment & a supposed commitment to 'equality.'

CatEyes, you made my head spin when you mentioned Kamala Harris' Senate seat. California is a very Democratic state, & has sent some unlikely people to Washington before. Yikes!
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Nutty Flavor said…
New post: Has "Finding Freedom" improved the Sussexes' reputation?
Just a thought about WW2 that we oldies absorbed almost at our mothers' breasts: one of the simplest, but truest, comments I've heard is that it was `a time of ordinary people doing extraordinary things'.

Such a shame that the younger generation whom Harry lauds to the sky are so ignorant of it.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
HappyDays said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
The following excerpts are from The Telegraph:

@Lt. Nyota Uhura: Thank you for kindly copying and posting this article from the Telegraph.
_________________________

My pleasure, @HappyDays.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, @WBBM, "In the immortal words of Wild Boar, the Queen appears to be peering at a hand-knitted tea cosy at a WI fete rather than her living, breathing 7th great-grand" I laughed out loud when I read that. So true, & the Queen, bless her, has spent a lifetime politely looking pleased by various things being presented to her.

I'm re-reading earlier posts more slowly. Hikari , you are so perceptive. You touched on so many of the 'Archie' mysteries. I think the RF should come clean about both 'Archie,' & how they finance the Harkles.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, This. "Then along comes Harry and the prospect of a quick anchor baby was too tempting. Actually being pregnant herself and getting fat and stretched out would have insulted her Narcissism."

Yes, she comes across as someone very invested in her appearance, & worked in an industry, (two industries, if the yachting rumors are true), in which looks are important. Having a child in your late 30s takes its toll. I know, I had one of mine in my late 30s. I haven't worn a bikini since. I don't care, I'd much rather have my child, I don't obsess about my looks, now at my age, I just don't want 'scare the children!' LOL.
Maneki Neko said…
@Pink Peony at 7.58pm

Sorry, I don't understand your comment. Did you think I thought you were Pinkdye? If so, I don't understand the confusion, I never thought you were Pinkdye, aka MM. You write correct English and Pinkdye didn't (although she may have deliberately made spelling mistakes). Sorry if I sound dense but I don't understand.
Ralph L said…
Alice of Athlone died in 1981, and her father was Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany.

Leopold's son Charles Edward became Duke of Saxe-Coburg in 1900. He fought for the Germans in WWI and became a Nazi and Brownshirt.
Essexgirl said…
The cost of the house, their legal fees and general living expenses is chicken feed compared to the enormous wealth of PC and HM.
They are ridiculously wealthy. My parents helped me buy my first property at the grand age of 30. I think most parents do if they can.
Just for balance here - how do you think the aristocracy has continued to preserve their wealth in the Uk for all these years?
The royal family don’t pay inheritance tax (40%) . They have squillions. To be fair 20 million a year, is nothing to Charles. Nothing at all.


SwanSong said…
Stuart Heritage covers the RF in Airmail Weekly, Braydon Carter’s newest online weekly. H&M’s new digs were reportedly purchased with her money from Suits, which I find fascinating. Did Charles cut off the syphon? I find it hard to believe Meghan could possible have made that much money on a cable tv show. https://airmail.news/issues/2020-8-22/unreal-estate?utm_source=share
Cass said…
Essexgirl, I am absolutely 100% behind you that the RF has IMMENSE wealth squirreled away!!!!!!!!! But don’t let’s bring THAT subject up for fear of having people come after us with pitchforks denying they have enough money hidden in so many places they will never want for a single thing!!!!!! 😡
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