This idea comes from reader @Happy Days.
Where will Meghan and Harry be in ten years' time - in October 2030?
Archie (assuming he exists) will be about 12 years old.
Will his parents still be married? Will they live in the US, the UK, or someplace else entirely?
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Was it intended as a dig at the RF or MM?
Although I’ve seen the interview so many times, I still recorded it. I too have been wondering why it was being shown again and yes why specifically at this time?
Much has been made in the British media of Megsy emulating Diana. Most importantly they both bring her up and use her life in the media and her death for the cause of Harry’s emotional issues. I think most Brits are far more cynical about Diana now, they are aware how she used the press when she wanted attention, when she wanted to upstage Charles etc. I think it’s a bit of mixed bag personally, and if Channel 5 wanted to stir the pot and aim it at the Royal Family, I think this was a bit of a damp squib and they’ve failed.
Unfortunately I can’t remember the quotation, nor have I been able to find it. It wasn’t quite what Dickens’ Mr Gradgrind said, more like `the accumulation of indubitable facts is what leads to the truth’. Perhaps Magatha can help with the exact wording?
Our mystery is notable for its lack of hard, established, fact, especially about Wee Archie. Is there anything at all that can be taken as firm evidence that he really exists, rather than being a figment of their imagination, played by either a doll of a child actor?
I thought there was a typo in your posts then realised!! Waht-a mistake-a to make-a!
@Maneki
Hahaha.
Also belated thanks to you, and other Nutties,
for your encouragement to keep “ Buggering On”
Very much appreciated 😘
“Listen very carefully, I will say it only once,
Megs, you stupid woman” 😚
`The-money-was-only-resting-in-my-account' Father Ted.
Or I would be, were H genuinely innocent.
(Thanks-a to Maneki-a too!)
Sorry WildBoar, can’t help.
A couple of other quotes from Hercule, Three Act Tragedy,
are rather apt though..
“One knows so little.
When one knows more, it is too late”
“In all the world there is nothing so curious,
and so beautiful, as truth”
Drink!!!!
Which helps explain why he remained unmarried until he met MM. Perhaps that despite all his wealth and privilege he isn't actually a good partner/person at all, and MM is the only kind of person who would actually be interested in him. Basically someone who doesn't care about his personality because they're just there to use him.
If that's the case then in 10 years time Harry will be divorced as he will have outlived his usefulness.
He'll probably remain alone for the reasons that I have mentioned, plus the personal baggage of a messy divorce from MM. She'll release all kinds of info about him to ruin him and his image.
He'll ping around other predatory women looking to use him because he's so unattractive for all the reasons that I've mentioned (by then it will be physically as well) to any normal person.
MM will be well set up as some sort of guru like Oprah, but with the important proviso that she will be nowhere near as popular due to her divisive nature. She'll do enough to earn ok/good money from a small but committed fan base. And that's about it. MM's future will very much depend on there being no bombshell revelations/secret footage of her being released where she is seen being horrible to someone (member of staff/Harry) or having Ellen style leaks against her. Which is quite a high probability if you think about it!
Even then there will be enough people to listen to her and swallow her crap. But it won't be that many. Sorry to say she will not disappear no matter what happens.
Glad to hear we're on the same page. I enjoy your posts :)
I have been thinking about this:
Ten years? who knows but what might be a far more telling clue for which way the wind might blow is how they are handled in the next big state event like a death in the family?
Who shows? Where do they stand, are seated, wear, or stay? Can they even come back in the time of covid? Would this require the presence of Archie as in line for participating?
Is there some sort of clause about what happens like that during the year review such as who takes over this review if HM is not feeling up to it?
A cheapskate like Harry makes the most of it, it seems.
Look at that poor Malala. She does this stupid 'chat with them, thinking she'll get some publicity and a generous donation.
When the Markles ask how can they help her, she says they desperately need cash and tells them where to donate.
Do the Markles donate anything? Nope. I guess they thought she should simply be graced by their ex-royal presence.
Didn't ask their followers to donate, either. Or offer anything in the way of publicity. Losers.
what might be a far more telling clue for which way the wind might blow is how they are handled in the next big state event like a death in the family?
There's a looming event no one here really wants to contemplate -- not just because we all respect the heck out of Prince Philip, but because we all know Meghan wants revenge for the "degree wife" comment.
I really hope that she doesn't try to fly back to the UK and get a spot beside Catherine or any other of the royal ladies who have behaved all this time. But if she's denied a place that she thinks is rightfully hers, the racism slinging will start up again.
I think that if the only way to keep Meghan away would be to have Prince Harry away, too, then even he won't be back for the funeral. And as bad as it would look not to have him there, it would be worse if she made an appearance. She is incredibly unpopular as it is, and I can't see how her showing up at such a sensitive time would be anything less than fire to dynamite. (Unfortunately, this is exactly the sort of chaos that narcissists love.)
Several months ago, I wondered what an appropriately Machiavellian courtier might do to keep Meghan away. Is there a big-enough celebrity who could be asked "to take one for the team"? Perhaps George and Amal could invite Meghan up to Venice and promise that there will be lots of paparazzi -- but it has to be on the day of the funeral? How about David and "Vic" Beckham themselves?
Several months ago, I wondered what an appropriately Machiavellian courtier might do to keep Meghan away. Is there a big-enough celebrity who could be asked "to take one for the team"? Perhaps George and Amal could invite Meghan up to Venice and promise that there will be lots of paparazzi -- but it has to be on the day of the funeral? How about David and "Vic" Beckham themselves?
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As an admirer of PP this is a great idea! Re-directing them, however, no one but the Obama's could successfully pull this off IMO. It may work. Fingers crossed!
She'll make a point of bringing her own being photographer to record her having to stand in line with Joe Public (Oh! The humiliation that the In-laws have subjected her to!) for the Lying in State in Westminster Hall.
On the day, having raised 2 fingers to protocol by insisting on wearing funereal black on joyous occasions, she'll turn up in something patterned in screaming colours; fluorescent Day-Glo orange, pink and lime, perhaps.
Her entrance to the Abbey may be barred, with doors slammed in her face following a petulant demonstration of `Don't you know who I am?'.
If she does manage to force her way in, the congregation and the TV audience will be treated, at the most solemn moments, to a display of gurning worthy of the Egremont Championships. Only the horse's collar will be missing.
It'll go down in history along with the Coronation of George IV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEH1rUB7-Ys - for gurning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_of_George_IV
Malala And The Two Hustlers
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/malala-and-the-two-hustlers/
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That bit about Meghan having her own photographer reminds me of the wedding of my sister's best friend. The mother-in-law hired a separate photographer and gave him specific instructions to focus only on her and the groom's family. The bride just went along with it because she just wanted a smooth day after all the stress of the wedding planning!
Perhaps a courtier could arrange it so that Meghan's car takes a detour into Scotland? To excuse her absence, they could tell the press that poor little Archie had fallen ill and his devoted mother didn't want to leave him.
And I just saw that video compilation of gurning! Oh, my!
Amal was believed to have a surrogate for the twins, and I believe that Markle went to Amal for a referral for a surrogate.
Something went terribly wrong, and Markle is forever persona non grata with the Clooneys.
Over at LSA, all out war has broken out and it seems to have something to do with race and the Chinese. Like any social media sites, people do fight and the spats at LSA usually blow over quickly and most folk stay out of the fray.
I catch up with this conversation and find a bizarre argument that I can't follow.
Sorry to charade and nutty who have to clean up the mess.
Remember nutty's last post about Meghan's 'untruths'? It is actually an ongoing conversation because as we all noted there were some porkers in her latest appearances.
A few dozen pages back, someone at LSA copied and pasted part of what Harry said to those kids and not only does it not make sense but I cannot work out what he was trying to say at all. I think they may just become hot items as speakers for sheer entertainment value ... a great drinking game (down a shot every time she references herself/tells a lie), an even better guessing game (translate into plain language that makes sense what they actually just said, and the best translation is rewarded with an entire bottle of wine) ...
My expectation is that she'll turn up for the next State Funeral, even if she's told her presence is not wanted.
She'll make a point of bringing her own being photographer to record her having to stand in line with Joe Public (Oh! The humiliation that the In-laws have subjected her to!) for the Lying in State in Westminster Hall.
On the day, having raised 2 fingers to protocol by insisting on wearing funereal black on joyous occasions, she'll turn up in something patterned in screaming colours; fluorescent Day-Glo orange, pink and lime, perhaps.
Her entrance to the Abbey may be barred, with doors slammed in her face following a petulant demonstration of `Don't you know who I am?'.
If she does manage to force her way in, the congregation and the TV audience will be treated, at the most solemn moments, to a display of gurning worthy of the Egremont Championships. Only the horse's collar will be missing.
It'll go down in history along with the Coronation of George IV.
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I'm sad to say I agree with your very likely assessment. How sad for PP who has served his Queen and country so loyalty. She will make a mess of it some how, some way.
@SirStinxAlot,
I too had thought that perhaps if PP states in his will and/or last wishes to keep certain individuals away from his final services, maybe mayhem may be avoided. I don't think that would work though because La Markle will find a way to make it known and the RF will more than likely want to avoid the media attention it could cause.
It is certainly going to be a dilemma but I want to have faith in the "grey suits" in handling royal messes.
I do like the idea of `kidnapping' her when she thinks she's en route for the Abbey - apply central locking so she can't escape, remove whatever electronic devices she might have about her person so she can't be tracked, keep her happy/well sedated with lots of her favourite medication, or something that would induce amnesia from the moment she gets in the car.
Then, when she eventually comes round, gaslight her like crazy - tell her she was wonderful in the Abbey...
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keep her happy/well sedated with lots of her favourite medication
Here I was stressing out over the logistics when it could be as simple as making sure she is well-supplied with her you-know-what of choice. Perhaps make it a tad stronger than what she is used to (but still 100% safe, of course!) so that she's extra happy?
Interesting comment about liars, how they emphasize normal things.
I found the Malala video with the Narckles and their body language interesting. When Hairy goes all in (toward the very end of the vid) and says how they got to see Archie's first step, first fall...Megs pulls way back from him and just laughs, like Hairy just made the best joke/lie ever. Strangest reaction ever to a parent supposedly making an emotional comment re the development of their child. Kinda like Hairy laughing (or as the press reported, he was crying) at the Well Child Awards ceremony.
Sadly, I think she will show up invited or not, wanted or not. She simply believes that she DESERVES to be there as she is so loved, woke, whatever (even if they have divorced by then).
There should be a way to keep her away as they did Fergie. But then again, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Fergie had respect for the monarchy and their requests.
Also, no way will Show Me The Money Markle miss anything approaching a "reading of the will" as I theorize she is hanging on for PP and HM to die and will the ball-less wonder millions of pounds.
I found the Malala video with the Narckles and their body language interesting. When Hairy goes all in (toward the very end of the vid) and says how they got to see Archie's first step, first fall...Megs pulls way back from him and just laughs, like Hairy just made the best joke/lie ever. Strangest reaction ever to a parent supposedly making an emotional comment re the development of their child. Kinda like Hairy laughing (or as the press reported, he was crying) at the Well Child Awards ceremony.
Wasn't Harry's original Best Joke Ever "Is it mine?" from Morocco?
I watched the end of the interview just to see that part. The whole clip is pretty low quality, so it's hard to see facial expressions. I think Harry sounds bored and as if he's reciting a scripted litany ("His first steps, his first run, his first fall, his first everything"). Meghan seems a bit more believable, because she's just reacting to him; but there's no real warmth there. But as we all know, I'm biased! Also, there's a slight cut between their talking about "our little one" and Meghan taking control of the conversation again. I wonder what was edited out.
@WBBM
I have the book Three Act Tragedy and looked for that quote but couldn't find it. If you can remember any details (who Poirot was talking to, when it was - beginning/middle/end - etc), I might be able to find it for you :)
Something went terribly wrong, and Markle is forever persona non grata with the Clooneys.
That's the way I'm leaning, too. Who knows what happened, but I think Amal was involved in it somehow. At least at the beginning.
It seems odd to me that Amal, a lawyer, would help find a surrogate for a couple who (presumably) wanted a child to be in a royal line of succession. Even if she hadn't known that a royal baby would need to be born "of the body," surely she'd be sharp enough to know that a surrogate pregnancy and birth would be a big issue. Why get involved in what could be a huge international mess?
Or perhaps I'm giving her too much credit, and she actually was complicit in helping to pull the wool over the BRF's eyes. For reasons of her own. In which case, she would have been blacklisted by the Palace right around the time she outlived her usefulness to Meghan.
I agree with everyone who says that the Clooneys have cleanly cut ties with the Harkles. And there's enough smoke around the surrogacy issue for me to admit there could be fire. The pieces just fit together really oddly for me on this one. I feel Amal would have wanted to keep her hands clean of the kind of conspiracy Moonbump Meghan decided to pull.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8831047/Prince-William-perfect-Captain-General-Royal-Marines-role-says-Major-General.html
https://twitter.com/BarkJack/status/1315442946356006913?s=20
As the Harkles overshare with teens in a room filled with props, did they miss out to the best Zoom event of the week, The Carousel of Hope Ball, hosted by Oprah herself with Tom Hanks, Robert DeNiro, Samuel L Jackson, Jane Fonda--the A list of Hollywood Zoomed in. Did their invite get lost in the mail? Could they not afford a donation, assuming the A listers donated to this event or perhaps they are just expecting the huddled masses to do so.
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Nice catch, Crumpet! I LOVE that this was organized by Oprah, and that they weren't invited.
We didn't even see the normal manipulation tactic announcing their participation (only to be denied by the organization later).
Isn't it odd that aside from the purported friendship with the Beckhams (and Harrys with Adele) they have very few friendships with any British celebs. The Clooneys are silent as is Sir Elton. They all apparently copped to them early on.
And now, the US celebs are silent as well. Even Hillary who defended Meghan (while promoting the "UK is racist" trope)
is quiet. Sunshine Sachs must have worked through their entire client roster. Thus the Sussexes reliance now on small charities.
It couldnt happen to a better couple.
I've been so confused as to why they are so insistent on hanging on to their patronages in the UK. Harry Markle does a great job of explaining that the Sussexes are relying on those charities for their travelling expenses back and forth to the UK. Probably many other expenses as well. I really hope the charities follow the Royal Marines and get themselves a patron that is: local, invested in them, and honest.
Ahh! That is the best joke! Love your posts!
As to Meghans Mirror--bring it on TaxMan!
Finally, shame on any charity that funds their trips to and from the UK. If you've got money for a private jet or first class seats for an entourage, then you don't need my donations.
Blind Item #5
The Princess who has been married longer is being cheated on by her husband with the wife of one of his best friends.
This blind comes the day Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank celebrate their 2nd wedding anniversary and Eugenie shares unseen photos from her royal wedding . I can't believe this blind.
Before Megxit, we had a couple of nasty blind gossips about Kate. Lots of us (nuties) thought it all came from MM's camp.
I think this one also comes from Nutmeg because she hates Eugenie for being pregnant right now and she still has a grudge against her.
Ah, so Oprah has cut the Harkles loose.
I wonder if Amal originally did help line up a surrogate etc, assuming that the HAMS would bring much needed light to the plight of couples who are childless not by choice. But I firmly believe she would never, ever, have guessed that MeMe would go the fake bump route in front of the entire world. And that's about when we quit seeing the Clooneys associated with (as in documented not rumoured) the Harkles.
Now that makes sense. And I imagine she was horrified when she realized exactly what was going on .
I don't think anybody would have guessed, even up to the wedding, what kind of shenanigans Meghan would be happy to pull in the public eye. To this day, I have friends who think I'm tin-hatty because I've pointed out Meghan's belly going up and down in size not just from day to day, but from minute to minute. It's such a crazy stunt that it doesn't seem real.
Amal and George jumped ship when they realized she is a toxic person. I can imagine her team having the nerves to ask them to sign NDA :-)
The 2 grifters live in L.A but their only friends are D. Foster (70 years old) and K. McPhee (sorry but I've never heard about them 2 weeks ago).
Where are Amal, Priyanka, Serena and all the so called BFF she invited to her baby shower?
On another note, Kate will announce the winner of the Wildlife Photographer tomorrow.
She shared a video today and she looks gorgeous. She is the embodiment of class and elegance.
I have been reading on Harry Markled FB page - that the recent filings showing H"s name on this Tsessebe Ltd company may be not as suspicious as thought. Apparently Williams name has recently appeared on some other filings "William has had the same happen to his off shoot company so it may not be so suspect after all, but a real division. It does indicate that Harry doesn't intend to reside in the UK though"
They are now thinking this may be some final stages of "cleaning up" and fully separating Harry away from all connections (with W and BP). A very clear split in everything that connects them in case of pending problems with H and his finances etc.
Sounds like a valid reason.
All A-listers 'exiting' the trainwreck that is the Harkles, is a common-sense move.
The Beckhams have been after that knighthood forever and are probably smart enough to know that the life of Harry (just harry), isn't over yet. They need his connections. I doubt they care about Meghan at all, and Vicky knows she has more power than megs here.
"I wonder if Amal originally did help line up a surrogate etc, assuming that the HAMS would bring much needed light to the plight of couples who are childless not by choice."
Maybe. But if Amal used a surrogate as rumors say, she could have done that herself and she didn't. And if she didn't use a surrogate, why would she know how to find one up for M?
I said over a year ago, I think, that ever since a certain person married in the members of the RF have been dragged through the mud like never before.
A malignant narc uses people and discards them. If they cannot be moved (blood members of the RF) they are torn down by her instead.
https://twitter.com/BarkJack/status/1315442946356006913?s=20
You do not need twitter to see this. Just copy & past in to your browser & it will come up
Agreed. Nobody would have guessed the shenanigans MeMe would pull because it is so far from normal expected behavior as to be impossible to guess.
For me the killers were the pensioners' home visit (sharp edges on bump? um no if you're really prig) and claiming to be nursing while attending Wimbledon high as a kite wearing a tiny bra and sheer blouse. No nursing mother ever would wear that bra and blouse.
Amal wore a fake baby bump of her own. She showed up at some award ceremony with her husband at supposedly 6 months pregnant with twins, thin as her usual self with a small baby bump.
I am reading over at plant's that there has been a two year investigation into Meghan's Mirror. Meg's involvement confirmed?
https://twitter.com/BarkJack/status/1315442946356006913?s=20
yes, I posted this yesterday from a comment at CDAN
In addition, to writing a best selling tell-all book, MA helps the grey men recover much of the stolen money. MM finds herself in deep problems with the IRS. Doria's role in MM's scams come to
Light. She finds herself being investigated by the Cailifornia agency that licenses nursing homes.
With 10 years, MA is given a knighthood by king William.
I found the Malala video with the Narckles and their body language interesting. When Hairy goes all in (toward the very end of the vid) and says how they got to see Archie's first step, first fall...Megs pulls way back from him and just laughs, like Hairy just made the best joke/lie ever. Strangest reaction ever to a parent supposedly making an emotional comment re the development of their child. Kinda like Hairy laughing (or as the press reported, he was crying) at the Well Child Awards ceremony.
I think those two sit around smoking weed and devising new lies to foist upon the public in regards to their son's developmental milestones and the whole process of being parents in general. Harry is not as practiced at lying as Meg, so his deceptions pop out as inappropriate giggles and other physical tells. He knows he is telling horrendous lies and on a subliminal level, he is ashamed.
If they are not actually parents, then they are creating fiction. And having a right old gas at our expense. I espouse the theory that the name "Archie Harrison" itself is one big old joke/double barreled bird finger to the Royal family and to the public. For number of reasons. "Archie" may be a sort of cute (nick)name, for a household pet, a comic book character or a school chum of Harry's . . but it decidedly lacks heft and dignity for a Royal baby. Had they wanted to use it as a nickname for something grander, that would have been fine. Something Royal . . with the customary two or three other names tacked onto it. After all, "Henry Charles Albert David" was called 'Harry' from the time he left the hospital in Diana's arms . . but he's got a suitably regal name for the family register.
ARCHIE = the name of Meg's lost-deceased cat (allegedly) +
ARCHWELL = the name of the company Meg registered in 2018? some months before her marriage + HARRISON = the luxury home goods and linens line used at the Soho House hotels and sold in their catalog . . . .
I can be forgiven for assuming that Archie Harrison is a big fat joke cooked up one night in Soho House Toronto as a stoned Haz and Mess played 'Let's name our future child!'
Whether there is at this moment an actual living toddler with this name and either Harry's or Meg's DNA is open to conjecture.
It's been 5 months since the Duck Rabbit travesty. The beefy and very active young man in that video appeared, besides exhibiting zero familiarity with the woman who was allegedly his mommy looked quite a bit over just 12 months old. My guess was 16 months. Most babies are walking by 14 months, some as young as 11 months. The child Meg was uncomfortably holding in that video looked to be walking already, given his repeated attempts to get down and away from her. Archie would be over 17 months now if we use his given birthday . . personally I think nearer to 21 months. Either way, he's been walking for quite a few months now. Yet they mention these milestones like they just happened.
I don't know if the kid we saw nearly 6 months ago is the real Archie, but he was big enough to be walking and was already starting to talk as well. Meg's conception of child development is screwed up.
Which would be easier to do if she doesn't actually have a normally-developing child living with her.
Does Archie figure at all in "Finding Freedom"? Because a new mother would talk about and show her child a LOT more than Smeg has been doing.
Why do none of the royals mention him, ever?
We hear talk of Charlotte, George, and Luis, as well as Harry and Williams' younger cousins, and relative's children at least once a week.
But nothing on this mysterious baby Archie. Isn't that sign enough that something is off?
Personally, the way they spoke of him during the Malala interview was bizarre. No one talks of their kids in these generalized tones. You can simply point out in conversation.. 'ah yes, we watched Archie take his first step mid- June, was it darling?' 'We've been fortunate during this time.'
I agree with the over-emphasis and 'storytelling' means they have lied about a lot to-d Archie. Meghan laughing was probably just her anger than Harry was even mentioning the poor boy, remember all attention on MEGHAN at all times. She further devalues Archie by referring to him constantly as 'the little one'. It's distant, cold, and harsh. He's going t see these interviews one day.
That, or I think Archie might have a disorder, due to Harry point out all the 'obvious' things a baby does, as if it were incredible. Maybe it is for him.
On another note regarding Malala (I thought Malala was exceptionally professional compared to the Harkles), did anyone catch that as soon as Malala started talking 'female breadwinners' Meghan looked down and touched her leg, as if she was unhappy about that - I personally am still sticking with my theory that she is a nutcase, but holds Harry responsible for not knowing how to function in the real world and not telling her his true net-worth and royal situation. I think Meghan has a real issue with Harry and I don't think Harry cares. Downhill spiraling couple. They don't even interact or touch in interviews, no warmth...
Agreed. I seem to remember Amal tried the fake bump route but couldn't pull it off. IIRC it was outed that they were using a surrogate (no problem with that in my book) and then later it was rumoured, repeat rumoured, that Amal and George had a surrogacy business on the side. That doesn't sound right to me but I believe they did use a surrogate and I believe that they know where/how/who to have it done.
I believe Markle went to Canada to arrange it but I still believe she herself was never pregnant. The Canada trip, solo, right after marriage was too strange and very suspicious . If not arranging surrogate then IVF. But I still don't think she was really pregnant.
Also, I have never heard a parent brag about watching a child's "first fall". First steps yes, first fall....um no. That is way too strange. Like poster said above liars give too much information to try and sound honest.
H seemed like he was sitting with his back to her in the teenager interview.
The "breastfeeding" details about the SA trip seem to be like the "young mothers" stuff during her recent court case. Anyone criticizing her now is picking on a tired, breastfeeding mother! How dare they! She was tired and Archie had to eat/have a bath (yes, that's what kids need)...
This new defense sounds a lot like the stories that she was "hounded" by the paparazzi after she and Harry started dating. Perhaps they believe if they just tell people over and over again that she was breastfeeding, it will be believed.
The "breastfeeding" details about the SA trip seem to be like the "young mothers" stuff during her recent court case. Anyone criticizing her now is picking on a tired, breastfeeding mother! How dare they! She was tired and Archie had to eat/have a bath (yes, that's what kids need)...
This new defense sounds a lot like the stories that she was "hounded" by the paparazzi after she and Harry started dating. Perhaps they believe if they just tell people over and over again that she was breastfeeding, it will be believed.
I enjoy going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories as well as the next person, but those two take crazy to a whole 'nother subterranean level.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do
14 day quarantine
Take particular note of 2.8 and funerals. not limited to 6, can go up to 30 but that would limit a lot of who has to be there and then sorry but you don't make the cut would not a personal thing as so many would not be allowed to attend.
interesting comments about Amal and surrogacy. Perhaps M asked her questions, sources and so on "for a friend" and Amal hadn't realized who the friend was or the implications of the association. Although, with her legal background she probably would have heard about titles, inheritance and surrogate kids.
Love, love, love your comment! Someday all nutties must meet for a glass of wine! Or just hang out....
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Plant has a link to a picture of Eurgenie's wedding reception dress. The picture the press ran back then made it look like a super hero costume with boob sweat. This picture (Zacposon twitter) is from the side. And OMG! Breath taxingly beautiful dress!!!
Harry and Meghan epitomise the true Covid Divide
The Sussexes live in a bubble at the best of times. If they're going to weigh in, it needs to be done cautiously – and with empathy
By Celia Walden
Altruistic: showing a disinterested and selfless concern for the wellbeing of others; unselfish. Perhaps the Duchess of Sussex should have looked up the adjective before inviting a group of California teens who had set up their “relaxed but altruistic” podcast, Teenager Therapy, into her Santa Barbara home for a bout of virtue signalling on Mental Health Day.
Because there sat these three kids, eager to discuss the teen anxieties and experiences that have been heightened to a crippling level during the pandemic – and they couldn’t get a word in edgeways. You see, Meghan wanted to “speak personally”, and turn Teenager Therapy, once again, into All About Meghan.
“I’m told that in 2019 I was the most trolled person in the entire world – male or female,” she announced, as the trio of teens were forced to bite back their own tales of isolation and estrangement in order to make room for her irrepressible #feelings.
A few words would have killed the Duchess’s violin solo dead. Adele was, in fact, the most trolled person of 2019 (weight loss), with reality star Gemma Collins (fatness, bad make-up) in second place. But the only words worth hearing were hers. “Now, for eight months of that, I wasn’t even visible,” Meghan went on and, again, one imagines the teens watching their precious time draining away, all those notes made on the key issues to highlight during the podcast – the epidemic of depression and suicide among teens – wasted.
“I was on maternity leave or with a baby. But what was able to just be manufactured and churned out… That’s so big, you can’t even think about what that feels like,” Meghan insisted, despite apparently having devoted a great deal of time to thinking about what that felt like for her.
“Because I don’t care if you’re 15 or 25” – that much was obvious – “if people are saying things about you that aren’t true, what that does to your mental and emotional health is so damaging… it’s almost unsurvivable.”
Somehow, Meghan seems to have struggled valiantly on in her and Harry’s £11 million Santa Barbara mansion, a tidy £112 million Netflix deal under her Givenchy belt. Although some might question the “emotional health” of a woman who saw fit, the very next day, to stress how much “really good family time” she, Harry and their son Archie enjoyed during lockdown. In a YouTube discussion to mark the International Day of the Girl on Sunday, Markle marvelled at “having this time” to watch their son grow.
“In the absence of Covid, we would be travelling and working more externally and we would miss a lot of those moments.” Which was heart-warming stuff and, despite a last-minute save from Harry – who was left to point out that, “at the same time… we completely understand and get how challenging this is for absolutely everyone” – makes one question whether there is a degree of deafness beyond tone-deafness. A cursory Google search on this brings up something called “Disconnection Syndrome”, which seems apt, encompassing as it does the “perceptual deficits” that can accompany “auditory incapacity” in cases of extreme deafness.
Because the Covid Divide isn’t just geographical and sociological but mental – with the Sussexes epitomising the lack of sensitivity the pandemic has shown up in some with regard to the less fortunate.
Not only will Markle’s own in-laws be unable to enjoy “really good family time” for some months, holed up as the Queen and Prince Philip are in their ‘HMS Bubble’, but thousands of ordinary people will also have been devastated by Covid in a similar way, and with no silver lining to be found.
One would hope that most of us are aware of this divide. It’s the reason I didn’t regale my neighbour – whose lungs are still devastated by a month-long battle with the virus in March – with anecdotes of the glorious mummy-and-me time I spent with my daughter during lockdown. It’s the reason I didn’t send my parents, who have been in semi-isolation since late February, photographs of the trip to France we were lucky enough to have managed in August. It’s also the reason I baulk at the people who persist even now in pushing the “it’s all a giant over-reaction” narrative, and don’t bother lowering their voices to say: “It’s not like you and I even know anyone who got Covid, is it?”
The pandemic has divided us emotionally, physically, financially and politically. And given how different all of our experiences have been over the past six months, it’s easy to slip up and be insensitive. But for celebrity figures like Meghan and Harry, who live in a bubble at the best of times, those risks are twofold. So if they are going to weigh in, it needs to be done cautiously, altruistically – and with empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. Meghan would do well to look it up.
Thanks for the Telegraph article. Spot on!
I remember when the planes hit on 9/11. I stayed home from work watching TV coverage until after mid-day because my classes were in the afternoon/early evening. On the way to work I listened to a live acct on the radio of the 2nd tower coming down. All of America was pretty much in shock. I didn't live near NYC so I didn't have that additional sort of personal connection. But I did live near a major military base so locally people were freaking out for other personal reasons.
When I walked into the building a student (age 19-20) walked in with me. I asked her how she was doing and she said "not good." I said something to try to support and acknowledge her feelings then she said "yeah, I've had a sore throat for 2 days. I wouldn't even be here today except that Prof X won't excuse absences without a doctor's note." She then told me how unfair that was. When I finally picked my jaw up off the floor I reminded her she could be seen at Student Health for free and probably should go because she would need medication if she had strep. I then fled to my office.
For nearly 2 decades that student has held the top spot in my mind re: how to be self-centered and tone-deaf in the face of a national/international crisis. But Meghan has her beat by a mile.
I do agree with a lot of what you said abt Archie. I then thought if - and it might be a big if - Archie is, say, four months older than his official age, this might be the reason why they keep him under wraps. They must know people have discussed his age and at this stage, four months do make a difference, which is why he needs to be kept hidden. Once he's about 2½/3 years old, then a few months won't make any difference but while he was a baby, and now, it's a bit too 'risky'. Some argued that in SA Archie was older than four months. Not sure...
The Three Act Tragedy dramatisation was broadcast as 5 x 30 minute pieces consecutively and, sadly, I can't face a 150 minute `Listen again!' on line.
The quotation was after both poisonings so perhaps 90 - 120 minutes through, say two-thirds to three quarters of the way through? I don't know how much was cut, so have no idea if that corresponds to its position in the book. It may have been somewhere near the point when nicotine poisoning was diagnosed. I've searched for HP quotation on line, without success.
It seemed so apt at the time.
Skippy It has been confirmed that the teen charity rented and paid for the location of the podcast.
Not the alleged home.
Also Malala is a sunshine Sachs client
Thanks for the info. I'll try later but can't guarantee success!
@WildBoar
It’s driving me to tragedy!!
Can’t find your quote.
I did however find these pertaining to Megs:
“It was what every sane and logical person
would be expected to think.
I felt that I was in in fact looking not at reality,
but at an artfully painted bit of scenery”
“One should always start an investigation
with the simplest, and most obvious theories”
Help Maneki 🥺
She argues that our different hormonal regime has such a powerful effect on our health in general, and on our brains in particular, that it is the driver behind the much higher rates of Alzheimer’s Disease in women than in men. (She explains that the gap in life expectancy between males and female is narrowing as males start to look after themselves better but women indulge more in risky `male’ behaviours - it’s not that women have higher rates of AD simply because they live longer – rather that our hormones make us inherently more susceptible).
According to Mosconi, it’s not enough to shout about injustices and the need for female empowerment – this is a serious medical matter needing female-appropriate research.
I believe there is a big opportunity there for `the Most Famous Woman in the World’ to do something extremely valuable .
Of course, we know she won’t. She’ll continue to p*ss around wasting time, money and her opportunities. She lacks focus and commitment to anything other than her own greed for money and attention.
Whereas her scenery is slapdash!
Megs secret mission
To be the worlds biggest bichon
Has gone a little awry
Her aim for top dog
Using lies, hard to flog
Has us laughing, oh Megsie, my eye!
Slap & Dash, perfick WildBoar !!
Courtesy of The Everly Brothers
Megsies Clown Prince
Don’t want your claw, no, no more
Don’t want your diss-es, that I abhor
I cringe each time my strings are drawn
Here I am, I’m Megsies clown
I had to look up the controversy again, not having followed it closely the first time. Amal claims she carried and gave birth to the twins herself. A bunch of people also had questions about her baby bump while pregnant -- but if there's a "truther" community on this, they're either well hidden or they just ran out of steam.
I personally don't care if a private citizen who didn't reveal her pregnancy at another couple's wedding and then proceed to coat-flick and belly-cup for ten months is lying about using a surrogate. But IF that is what happened -- and IF the breathtakingly unoriginal Meghan actually grabbed the idea from Amal -- then I can see why Amal would want as much distance between them as possible. Amal's pregnancy had raised eyebrows only one year before and Meghan was going to town with a Moonbump in a way that might make people ask questions again. Extra toxic narc points if Amal had told Meghan the truth in confidence.
Add to that what I've already said about Amal, a lawyer, possibly being uncomfortable that the wife of someone in so high up in the British line of succession would be pulling a stunt with such huge legal ramifications.
"Add to that what I've already said about Amal, a lawyer, possibly being uncomfortable that the wife of someone in so high up in the British line of succession would be pulling a stunt with such huge legal ramifications."
Yeah, that could be true. But Amal certainly seemed all in at the time of the private jet baby shower and that was months after M began her coat-flicking, bump-clutching performance. Somehow I can't imagine Amal attended the shower because she just couldn't pass up the chance to spend a weekend with Jessica, Gayle, Serena, Marcus, and the crying makeup man Daniel.
Seems to me the Clooneys only started to fade away when Amal solidified her relationship with Charles via The Prince's Trust International.
Probably they were using M as much as she was using them.
I do recall people being upset that George and Amal's sucking up to Meghan had paid off, when Amal got a Prince's Trust award named after her.
After the door shut, the PR team must have each poured themselves a strong one.
There was an item yesterday that Markle was "complaining" that she is most trolled person on Earth, and that it is almost "unsurvivable."
Her use of the word unsurvivable is concerning, however. Makes you wonder what she has threatened when she doesn't get her way.
I think that's a control technique. Something used to keep Harry in line.
His attention strays...to his family say, or even his own needs, for 10 seconds...and mm pulls out the unsurvivable card.
She must have H's attention 100% of the time.
She even resents him paying attention to the baby.
IMO, the unsurvivable card is a way to manipulate people.
I don't get what I want, I'm going to do something dangerous, so you better do it my way or you'll be sorry.
The other thing is, who cares if things are said about her that are untrue? Her friends and family know the truth, and who cares what random strangers think.
It seemed that it was the comments on media stories that upset her so much. Why does she even read those? It's just nonsense anyway.
Not necessarily what people really think. Easy to type up something on a computer screen that you wouldn't say out loud.
I can't figure out why she doesn't just ignore all that.
She sounds like she wants to be adored by 100% of the people 100% of the time.
Just not possible, not gonna happen.
DM comment on the upcoming virtual summit:
"She's insane, but at least she's owning it. The face mask she wore the other day "When there were nine" is the first time Meg's has ever acknowledged the nine other people who which reside in her head with her. It's a start, good for her."
Glad I was only drinking water when I read it.
After freezing the PR executive with the same glare she had for the interviewer who reminded her she was only one of many powerful women in the world, she decided to edit the words "one of" out of the description. So she is "the most trolled person" of 2019 and please don't let the facts stand in the way!
I saw an old People magazine article online last night. It was about MMs Instagram hints early on that they were dating.
This is not something you do if you are trying to keep it under the radar. She was not that well known and her hints didn't cause the stir, I believe, that she wanted. There is no evidence she was hounded by paparazzi except for her own accounts. At least one photographer has implied she called him.
The buzz she was hoping for did not occur. Shortly thereafter came Harry's warning shot to the press, which left most people perplexed. Has anyone seen actual photos while they were dating to demonstrate this hounding?
When she emphasizes the word "manufactured" in the podcast I found it ironic. That's exactly what she does!
If Meghan wanted a worthwhile cause to support, even initiating a serious charity which would truly benefit womankind, she could do worse than read and inwardly digest Lisa Mosconi’s `The XX Brain’. The author is an American medical researcher focusing on how traditionally medicine has tended to treat women as being just variants of the basic male pattern. Have any Nutties come across her?
@WBBM: I have some moderate familiarity with this book and its discussion.
We’d all be dreaming if Meghan took up anything beyond the cause of the day that her fellow celebrities have taken up to create a bandwagon to attach herself to and milk it until it’s dry and then move on to the next bright, shiny object on the public horizon.
Meghan’s vapidness drives her to reach out to the causes and topics that allow her to easily float along the surface, pretending to be some sort of murky “expert” that at its core, is mostly based on marrying a royal and being given a royal title as her soapbox to stand on as she lectures the rest of us about whatever topic she has attached herself to for the moment.
Meghan isn’t interested in doing hard work. She just wants to skim as much cream off the top of any subject du jour that will generate cash , attention, and propel her forward as some sort of ersatz expert and caring humanitarian in whatever topic she is proffering at the moment, just because she is Harry’s wife.
Meghan only goes for the easy, sexy issues and doesn’t do a deep dive into anything except Harry’s pants.
Some friends bought a house that had rooms with terrible paint colors and garish wallpaper, so we spent the past few days helping to remove wallpaper (ugh) and painting several rooms.
Will submit my take on the Harkles in ten years. Our fellow nutties have been the source of great conversation on this topic!
Thank you, for graciously accepting my suggested topic. I marvel at your ability to come up with topics that generate intelligent and lively discourse.
@Swampwoman
Love, love, love your comment! Someday all nutties must meet for a glass of wine! Or just hang out....
Oh, and I have so many new wines to sample and it will be a shame to keep it all to myself! My lil' brother the winemaker sent three different bottles of grape wine (different grapes), a pear wine, and a blueberry wine home with me for me to critique. (I met him and his wife and had a restaurant dinner for the first time in MONTHS).
@WBBM
WBBM, I'm sorry but I couldn't find your quote. I've been skimming and scanning the book again, this time more carefully,to no avail. I do wonder if the quote is really in the book as you listened to an adaptation. I might try again.
When we saw SA Archie I was not sure if he looked age appropriate because my daughter is 17 and I just don't remember. My nephew and his wife had a baby on July 6 and I finally saw him yesterday. He is still learning to hold his head up. He was in the NICU for the first two years of his life, not because he was a preemie. He was 9lbs when born. Based on that, I do think Archie is older.
I mostly lurk but really enjoy all of the thoughtful comments made here. I suspect I've never really dealt with a narc but Meghan's behavior is appalling and I would be mortified if I were Harry.
Not years, weeks. Sorry
It was good maxim though - just focus what is certainly true, especially the tine details, and ty to put them together.
We're dealing with smoke and mirrors, as we've said so often - imitations of reality that disappear the instant we try to grasp them.
Meghan only goes for the easy, sexy issues and doesn’t do a deep dive into anything except Harry’s pants.
Exactly! Just think what somebody else could have done with the issues... There must be umpteen causes that could benefit from the dedicated attention of somebody high-profile.
Meghan? Nah! She probably believes that the way to immortality is paved with fillers, botox and the hair of less fortunate women.
Female suffering? Damaged brains? Families run ragged trying to care for the sufferers?Forget it! She's got to be the most famous woman in the world. Such a pity it can't be for doing something wonderful.
Not years, weeks. Sorry
No worries, I could tell that is what you meant!
My youngest grandson was @ 2 when "Archie" was allegedly born, and I was skeptical about the age in appearances since I had just been through a thorough review of developmental milestones.
The problem is that I don't think MM does details, never mind tiny details. Let's hope this will be her downfall...
possibly. But in the end a secret that big would never stay secret for 18 years--even with a super injunction. If indeed surrogate was used, I expect it will come out sooner rather than later.
Swampwoman. Agree that their interior decoration is just blah. So bland with its nude, white, greige scheme, the go to for people afraid to be accused of having bad taste. Harry might have wanted to go bold but she who must be obeyed put the kibosh on that.
But Harry is all these things, too, and he was before he met her. I think we’ve all come around to the realization that Meg did not corrupt Harry so much as latch onto a guy very like herself, only with a Royal title. Harry got out of the Army in 2015, at least a year before he crossed paths with his Narc. At that time, Sentebale and Invictus were devised to ‘give Harry something to do.’ For a while, he seemed very involved with Invictus particularly. The African charity was a bit of image rehabilitation on a par with what Maggie did when she wanted to be rebranded as an international humanitarian—Being pictured laughing and playing around with little colored children. Meigs humanitarianism was strictly limited to photo ops, and Harry’s was largely too. If he had such a passion for the African continent, and wildlife conservation and actually doing something to help the people of Africa, he could’ve chosen to plug-in in deeper more meaningful ways. He could have gone to Granny 5 and a half years ago, When he was free of encumbrances and his reputation was at an all-time high, and asked for permission to be a part time royale working for half the year in Botswana and Lesotho on his charities. He could have asked for a goodwill tour of other countries on the continent that were part of the Commonwealth, and rolled up his sleeves and got stuck in. But all of that would’ve represented actual hard work and commitment, and making the sacrifice of the London social scene for a big chunk of the year.
He didn’t do it. He chose instead to hang around William and Kate like a third wheel, collecting his grievances as their children were born, I’m spending the majority of his time partying and feeling sorry for himself. How do you opted to do genuine charity work in Africa on his own for an extended stay, he might have met a lovely authentic woman of the Commonwealth, or even a fellow Briton who was affiliated with a charity and working in the ground. We shall never know, and more importantly, Harry will never know. The Harry we thought we knew before all of this turned out to be a construct and figment of Edward Lane Fox’s imagination. Harry can’t be authentic any more than his wife can, because he has no idea who he is. Like her, he is just an endless pit of grievances, victimhood, envy, hedonism, and sloth. For hairy to have chosen differently and better, he would’ve had to have been different and better man. He was such an easy mark for Megan because she appealed to his shadow side. I think the shadow side has consumed him completely and there is nothing good left, if there ever was. So much like his great great uncle David. Like David, The signs were there early that he was going to be a bad seed. People just preferred to believe the shiny fiction and look the other way.
Do you believe the Queen and Charles have had an epiphany regarding Harry, though? Or are they still clinging to a belief that he has simply lost his way and will eventually find his way home if given enough time? I hope it’s the former.
Blogger Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells said.... Agree that their interior decoration is just blah. So bland with its nude, white, greige scheme, the go to for people afraid to be accused of having bad taste. Harry might have wanted to go bold but she who must be obeyed put the kibosh on that.
I was passing on Lady C's thoughts on it. I'm hardly one that can criticize anybody else's interior decoration since mine today consists of dinosaurs vs. trucks and Legos. Small grandson just got picked up (early!) by daddy, and I look at the mess and wonder if I will have the energy to pick it up tonight just to have it repeated in the morning (grin).
I will observe that white/light decors and small child/dogs do not coexist happily, but that's none of my business. Her housekeeper(s?) is one busy person.
Also, Harry refuses to take responsibility for his own well being and his work. He latched onto Meghan because he thought she could do the heavy lifting of sticking up two fingers to his family AND to make him richer and more powerful than his brother while he sat back and smoked weed.
I just watched LCC’s video discussing the tacky interior of the Harkles’ McMansion, and their lack of good taste. This quote made me laugh out loud:
Maybe they don’t have a self to express...Going off the empty platitudes pouring forth from their orifices which appear to be mouths but are actually anuses placed in the lower part of their head...Neither of them has good taste.
Harry founded the charity Sentebale with Prince Seeiso in 2006.
His only involvement with the charity is to participate in some fund-raising events, like playing polo, and to turn up at gala evenings. Half of the funds for the charity come from fund-raising events.
Meghan is all over the website but is absent from the annual report.
Archie has grown up a *lot* during lockdown!
The Editors
Tue, 13 October 2020, 11:15 am BST
From Cosmopolitan
Are we being prepared for him looking like a teenager on their Christmas card this year?
Interesting observations, @Hikari.
Do you believe the Queen and Charles have had an epiphany regarding Harry, though? Or are they still clinging to a belief that he has simply lost his way and will eventually find his way home if given enough time? I hope it’s the former.
It is hard to say about parents/grandparents and how they will react. I have seen parents deny that their (middle-aged or older) child was at fault when they looted their bank accounts and left them destitute. There have been cases around here of grandparents denying anything was wrong with their mentally-ill grandchild right up until the day that he/she killed them. I'm sure that other people have seen the gamut of behaviors that people will tolerate from family.
That being said, I believe that the Queen may accept insolence and deliberate disobedience from a grandchild to her, the person, but not so much to her, the office, if y'all see the difference. I expect that Charles the future king will feel the same way. (I'm looking at it from the point of view of a business owner. When you are repping MY business, on MY dime, you do NOT go behind my back and do things that I disapprove of and flout my authority. You can plead with Momma at home all you want but at work, I'm not Momma, I'm the boss lady and it will be my way or the highway.) I'm thinking that is how the Queen and Prince Charles will view it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8836453/Meghan-Markle-compares-social-media-users-drug-addicts.html
You only need to look at her clothing, wedding gown and
jewelry and her Tonronto home to see her lack of taste. She is too arrogant to hire an established interior designer to layout a plan for the Montecito home.
I have credionals to speak about taste; as I worked for one of the nation's largest furniture manufacturers, h
Which manufactured very high end furniture lines. I worked in that. corporate position for over seven years. I wonder if she even subscribed to Architectural Digest or even Veranda. One has only to look at the bird
nest prints that show up on her Zoom calls. Or the tacky blankets next to stacks of white books on the console table behind the white sofa shown on her videos.
Take a look a Lady C's home tour to see an example of very high end taste found upper homes in Great Britain in the US
In both countries, old money shops in their attics or family homes. They rely on what they have first and then fill in with they need.
I don't mean to offend anyone who likes or owns white sofas. I am only speaking from my experience.
It seems that you and I are on the same page re. Harry.
Growing up Royal is certainly not the picnic it appears to be from the outside. The pressure and emotional repression seem par for the course in this family. George V and Queen Mary were distant and autocratic parents who barely knew their children and left them in the care of sadistic nannies. But the Queen’s father had an even tougher time of it with his speech impediment and he did nit follow the same course as his elder golden child brother. So I am not sure how much defense I can accord to David for his conduct, seeing as he cozied you to Herr Hitler, compromised state security by letting his lover take state papers toner other lover the German ambassador, and encouraging Hitler to bomb London into oblivion from the safe Port of the Bahamas. His objective was to be reinstalled on the throne under a Vichy style government where he would’ve been Hitler‘s puppet, and he didn’t seem to give a toss that he may have been condoning the death of his brothers entire family, not to mention millions of his former subjects.
Bertie, with a similar, and even worse childhood, took up the mantle of the crown and became a hero of his people. We are all products of our childhood to a degree, but at some point in adulthood we bear the responsibility to overcome a less than perfect start in life. Because who among us can post of a perfect childhood? We all have scars. Harry and William will be forever marked by their parents loveless marriage, the divorce and their mothers untimely death. But only the younger son is milking this as an excuse to make nothing of himself Apart from that perpetually bereaved little boy...He’s trading on his dead mother for money. Yes, he is under Meg’s sway But this is an under developed personality that can’t or won’t resist what he knows to be wrong in favor of wallowing, and trying to stick it to his brother.
Thanks for the reminder that Sentebale goes back further than Invictus. Harry would have been 22 when it was founded. He was still living down the Nazi costume regalia scandal and needed some positive PR. It’s kind of a shame really that no other role could be found for him in terms of lasting insignificant involvement, apart from charity polo galas. Digging wells or building schools or becoming a full time coach for these young people is too plebeian to interest a party prince. Like his wife, Harry likes the showy bits and wants all the accolades for none of the sweat equity. In this he and Meg are well matched.
I so agree with your (and everybody else's) comments about MM's decor. It looks as if she just tore a page out of a Crate and Barrel (or Sears!)catalogue and ordered all of the furniture, prints and doo-dads. I'm going to call them doo-dads, as they have no true decor value whatsoever. The tacky bird nest prints are so prosaic, and the white and gray/taupe color scheme has been done to death. I don't believe that she had any help with decor, unless she went through one attached to a mid-range furniture store, as they usually come up with this type of decor-very safe and boring, such as the ladder with the throws on it, which has been done for at least the last 15 years. She is too unsophisticated to add interest with antiques, color or intriguing soft furnishings.
@Sandie,
You mentioned Sentebale, and many have said that it would be good for Harry to leave MM and to live in Africa. I don't think that would work for Harry. He isn't going to want to work, and he will just go back to the party boy he was before MM got her claws onto him. He has nothing to offer, doesn't want to work, and he would just become more of a drinker and drugger than he is now. If he ever leaves MM, he cannot be left on his own, and he will need constant supervision. I think the best place for him would be under the watchful eye of the BRF, with a full-time medical/psychological companion. He is incapable of living on his own at this point.
I was on Skippy and she has 2 photo's of H, one from 2017 and one 2020. She believes they are not the same person............ but........I have to say, what a difference in appearance. I did a search of images of him from 2017 and wow, his looks have really gone down hill. Between weight loss and hair loss and whatever the heck else is going on with him. Really deteriorating in appearance.
He didn't look the same to me, either, but maybe he's had some surgeries as well?
I'd like to be worshipped and showered with unlimited cash and accolades just for existing, too, without doing all the boring "work" parts. Sadly for the rest of us, without doing the boring "work" parts, whatever is being built is likely unsustainable. Most people have had to choose whether to put most of their time and effort into building a business, a career, or family obligations or as balanced a life as we want/can manage/can afford. I think that is what is so aggravating about the Harkles; they could have had it all, comfort, mansions,fame, without much in the way of effort, and they threw it away.
She does not change her patterns. She has criticized Deal or No Deal, the audition process, of course the Royal Family, and now digital media. I wonder if Instagram is smarting after being thrown under the bus?
1. So does this mean that Messica, Scoobie, Oprah, Kamal, Edward Enninful, Gloria Steinem, Kat McPhee, Malala and all sugars are like users or drug addicts, as they’re all on social media regularly? Seems like an unkind thing to say about important people in one’s life.
2. What do you call someone addicted to churning unwanted videos, social lectures, Zoom calls, and interviews?
3. “For Archie, our son.” Did anyone else get vibes of “Archie, our son, the child that is ours, a boy, named Archie, who is our son, because really, there is one, a son, who is ours, and growing, we, meaning I and my husband, who is here, saw him, at some point, ours.”
4. An Ibiza slip dress or 90s camisole for a powerful women summit for Fortune. In October.
5. Is this the argument she may be using to keep Hazza from reaching outside his dungeon to old pals via social media?
6. What do you call someone who can’t stop vomiting PR, and blowing masses of money on daily stories and pap images about themselves? Is that a kind of addiction too?
7. What is it called when a person is so obsessed with fame they’d do anything to get more? A fame user?
8. If you can’t stop belittling and staring at your sister-in-law, and you want to do it every week, which addiction is that?
9. Are you a “court user” if you keep filing lawsuits?
10. If you keep marrying men one after the other to climb, is that being some kind of user too?
11. If you are told you have to stop using all the social media platforms you registered because you have no legal right to the name you gave them, and you can’t transfer all the followers you got and bought, so you pout, is that being a kind of social media addict or user?
12. Are people who register a zillion foundation and company names on and on some sort of money addicts?
Will being any of the above make this a better world for children?
Gosh I am grateful to be learning so much about unfortunate behavior!
For example:
An Ibiza slip dress or 90s camisole for a powerful women summit for Fortune. In October.
I can't stop laughing. Well done!
You point out that Megz is, once again projecting, but this time the term 'user' on everyone else in the world.
When is Megz going to realize that the more she moans on and on about useless platitudes and reminds people she is supposedly a mom, oh sorry, a family...it's becoming very painfully obvious she and Harry don't actually do, anything at all during the day.
Everyone else around 40 with a family, in all classes, are busy. They aren't drug addicted social media users, non-voting do nothings....
She always, always reveals more about herself (which is her favorite topic remember!) than anything about society as a whole.
I think dead magazines who are Zooming for publicity, are going to give up on The Duchess soon. She sounds like an idiot all of the time. It's actually rather embarrassing. I didn't think it'd go this wrong for her, but here we are. She just can't help herself, I guess.
When asked about whether motherhood had made her more courageous or more cautious, Meghan, speaking from her home in California, replied: "It's interesting because my gut is that it makes you more courageous. "My gut"? Sounds as if it was a hunch as opposed to something your know/have experienced. It does sound a bit funny to me.
"At the same time I am cautious of putting my family in a position of risk by certain things, and so I try to be rather very clear with what I say and to not make it controversial, but instead to talk about things that seem fairly straight forward - like exercising your right to vote." She is obviously trying to impress upon us the fact that she was simply encouraging people to vote and was not trying to influence anyone. We know better, Meg, in spite of your lies.
"People who are addicted to drugs are called users and people who are on social media are called users and there is something algorithmically that is in there that is creating this obsession and I think it's very unhealthy for a lot of people."Funny, I was just thinking of drugs... What does she mean by "there is something algorithmically that is in there that is creating this obsession"? This is the worst word salad she's concocted.
Maybe she's terribly misunderstood and I am at fault for not seeing she is just being "authentic"...
The saddest comment I've read about current precautions was from another `senior' who observed that having to be holed up at home felt like being buried alive. I'm about 20 years younger than HM (give or take a couple of years) and wonder how she really feels about it? I know I feel it very keenly.
How these two, the human equivalent of the nasty sort of stuff one has to scrape off one's shoes, can treat his father and grandparents like this is beyond me. They don't deserve a moment of anyone's attention, let along the vast amount of cash they squander to no good purpose.
The sooner they meet their nemesis, the better. On the subject of which, I found this at the top of my Google Search results:
How do you deal with nemesis?
So, here are five tips on How to Deal With a Workplace Nemesis:
Get over yourself and deal with it. ...
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. ...
Don't let ego get in the way of business. ...
Take a long, hard look at yourself. ...
Maintain perspective.
That cheers me up - there's no way that they will be able to deal with retribution, whether it emerges from the Law Courts, the Royal Court or the Court of Public Opinion.
Meghan avoids 'controversial' topics for fear of putting family 'at risk'
Published3 hours ago
Codswallop!
Maneki Neko said:
"Maybe she's terribly misunderstood and I am at fault for not seeing she is just being "authentic"..."
Perhaps she is "authentically `inauthentic'"? That is, inauthenticity is her authentic position?
All her appearances have about as much depth as a pininterest page. I mean, what is she actually saying of substance? Its always about having a voice. What use is having a voice if all you spew is word salad? Having a voice just seems a metaphor for attention, publicity and making money for doing nothing. We dont want to hear from an actress turned Royal turned speaker. We want to hear from pioneering female scientists, teachers, soldiers, lawyers and doctors.
There is more to the comment but that is the jist. I think this frustrated melbournite (city has been under lockdown for weeks) has nailed it.
She cannot tolerate comments and articles about her that do not fit her narrative and constructed reality. Strange that she seems ok with her deranged stans! Surely they are a perfect example of what she is bleating about?
Her word salad has been deteriorating, as has Harry's. In their last appearance he seemed to 'wake up' to pronounce practised comments and then fidget and 'switch off' in between. I wonder how far the deterioration will go before someone notices that they are unravelling?
Calling the BRF an institution was passive aggressive. We have seen Harry display this kind of behaviour to Meghan in public, but this is the first time I have noticed her doing it.
@Wild Boar Battle-maid...that information on dealing with one’s nemesis is so interesting! Thank you for sharing it. And, totally agree, they
Montecito won’t know how to handle any retribution that may be coming their way via court cases, because we can see they cannot handle the fallout from their own terrible PR or obvious missteps and own goals.
The more we hear from them, the more I see not just a worn-down, unmoored man and his perpetually devious spouse, but just two self-absorbed, bratty, selfish poorly educated teens with scowling faces, privately moaning and pissing that they want bigger allowances, a new car, more clothes, etc.
So I actually think in ten years’ time they will have run through all the handouts and favors and “friendships” for which they could whine, and will at the cusp of 50 be alienated from everyone of influence. They will be living on the fringe, nursing fresh anger, creating more teen drama from some Vegas bungalow, a merely clownish tabloid blip. If there is an Archie, he will have been handed off by the pathetic 50 year old teens to the BRF in exchange for a much needed $25k. Yet they will still be smug. Scowling, but smug, because they are sure they will win the lawsuit against their rental’s landlord for failing to provide adequate royal-level security, and Meghan is this-close, she thinks, to a deal in the Ukraine to design bikinis for teen girls who have no idea who she is.
And of course, any sign of `authenticity' from her is inauthentic!
I'm wondering whether the bland interiors of the spaces that we see are her "authentic" self, or whether it is an attempt to HIDE her authentic self. She probably has a room devoted to voodoo dolls of the royals, people that haven't "helped" her enough, torn up/defaced images of her past friends, and DIE DIE DIE stabbed onto Harry's picture.
If you walk into my house, you will see that my authentic self is dedicated to comfort (grin) with overstuffed chairs, colorful walls, comfy sofa, and books on every imaginable subject *just in case* the Kindle is not available (although I do have several iterations just in case for if/when the grandchildren get hold of one).
Off Topic: I didn't know why we were being moderated since I missed the outbreak of renewed hostilities, so thanks, moderators!
What strikes me about her decor is the lack of anything personal. There are no personal photographs on display (of family, people, places, holidays), no treasured items or gifts. The white theme must be a nightmare to keep clean with dogs, a toddler and an outdoor lifestyle, and the items such as the display ladder and cloths are a dust trap.
Everything is curated and posed, like an advert in an online catalogue. There is no sense of the house being lived in, but maybe that is one of the two corners set up for Zoom calls. However, I would guess that the rest of the furnished rooms follow the same theme.
Charles, Camilla and Sophie usually are seated in a very personal room filled with personal stuff. The Cambridges tend to use a bland background and fill the screen with their smiling and engaged presence. The Sussexes have a middle class online catalogue generic home setting.
Change of topic ... I see the tabloids are joining social media sites in pointing out that Meghan was a keen social media user and her posts were focused on showing a full and intimate view into her life. She has always been keen in being very public about presenting a view of herself. Staff are probably locked into NDAs, but the sussexroyal IG account was obviously controlled by Meghan, and the use of American spelling and terms was one obvious giveaway.
Was she never affected by negative online and media feedback before she met Harry? Maybe the people who managed the boring practical stuff for her censored heavily?
He seemed to regard this as a good sign.
Was she never affected by negative online and media feedback before she met Harry? Maybe the people who managed the boring practical stuff for her censored heavily?
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Presumably, the only people following The Tig etc. were fans. Meg didn't have the kind of global profile she has now and, well, careful what you wish for and all that.
Agree with your observations re the home decor. Its very "sterile" and not "homey" at all. The lack of anything personal, but especially photographs (even ones that have been seen before i.e. wedding, christening, SA tour) is an interesting observation, to say the least.
When is Megz going to realize that the more she moans on and on about useless platitudes and reminds people she is supposedly a mom, oh sorry, a family...it's becoming very painfully obvious she and Harry don't actually do, anything at all during the day.
The nitwit duo spends their days trying to get various KarTrashians (Megsy's model) on the line for career advice. Oprah too. But they are not picking up the phone for Megs who is living 5-7 years in the past as far as creating a buzz about yourself and creating a reality series.
The Royal nitwit H is looking like a dead fish. I give them 12 months before their Montecito Mansion implodes in the inevitable mudslide. When the DM quits flogging Megsy daily you will know they are finished, as in no one cares about these empty heads and their preaching.
I so agree with your (and everybody else's) comments about MM's decor. It looks as if she just tore a page out of a Crate and Barrel (or Sears!)catalogue and ordered all of the furniture, prints and doo-dads. I'm going to call them doo-dads, as they have no true decor value whatsoever. The tacky bird nest prints are so prosaic, and the white and gray/taupe color scheme has been done to death. I don't believe that she had any help with decor, unless she went through one attached to a mid-range furniture store, as they usually come up with this type of decor-very safe and boring, such as the ladder with the throws on it, which has been done for at least the last 15 years. She is too unsophisticated to add interest with antiques, color or intriguing soft furnishings.
Given Meg's propensity for compulsive lying and spin, I continue to be quite dubious that she and Harry actually own Mudslide Mansion. They went from couch-surfing at Tyler Perry's to the sudden owners of a $14 million dollar property?? Harry is a guy who refuses to even buy his own beer so that outlay of funds seems really extreme, even if Charles covered the down payment. Meg has never stuck with any domicile, relationship or job more than a few years and she's got to know that sailing as close to the wind as she's doing that Mudslide Mansion isn't going to be any sort of permanent family home. Somebody else mentioned the complete lack of any personal touches or items like photos in her bland Zoom showplace. Why would she have any personal things like that when she's ghosted every bit of her past and thrown it away? She wants to live in a curated Instagram world because she thinks that will mean that she's made it. She's got no inner core or happy memories to cherish, no real self at all, so her house is a blank reflection of the void within.
Personally, it is my belief that they are renting that place or only going to be there very short term and they know it. They don't have the funds to sustain the lifestyle Meg wants and she's not generating much money giving 15 minute word salads on Zoom, most of which have been gratis appearances and hence, the merching.
The room we have seen has all the earmarks of a pre-furnished 'staged' home. There are companies that rent furniture and interiors to realtors and homeowners who want to stage their home for sale, and I think this is what Meg is doing. The idea that they bought, reno'd and furnished a house that size, during lockdown in a pandemic hotspot of the U.S., on the QT with none of this 'move' being seen or commented upon is hinkey, to say the least. Let's see what becomes of Mudslide Mansion in 6 months' time after the official end of the review period. I think massive changes will be coming in the Harkles' lifestyle.
Oh, and in her last couple of Zoom appearances, in tiny, sleeveless tops showing so much skin, she looks like an aging prostitute. And this woman thinks she's gonna run for President. SMH so hard it's about to clean come off.
It's not just her hair colour that changes constantly, her face does as well.
Wish I could change may face on a daily basis.
She is sitting in a way with Harry to disguise that it is sheer in one picture, and hiding behind him in another. It was inappropriate, perhaps not for the Earth but certainly for engagement photos for a member of the British Royal Family.
I remember the gown's cost was so controversial at the time that a statement was issued that it was purchased privately. I am SURE she would have been advised not to choose a dress that was sheer on top and so expensive, if not by palace courtiers then by Harry. The fact that she insisted on this dress gives you some insight to her personality and the way she treated "the institution" from the very start.
I think that MM and JH are being cruel to Archie by isolating him from his extended family. My parents emigrated to Canada in the 1950s before family reunification policies came into being and i remember how lonely I was, and envious I was of my friends who always had cousins, aunts and uncles, grandparents and other extended family members around on birthdays and holidays. My family couldn't have visits with relatives for financial reasons, but the Harkles don't have those constraints. MM doesn't value family and she sees no reason why anyone else should, either.
Just want to clarify that although the decor of the Sussexes is not my taste, I do not find it aesthetically hideous. That look seems to be trendy because I see it a lot, especially in expensive rentals, mostly for sale now as the virus killed the market for months.
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I tend to agree. Now in my older years, clutter and too much doo dads that need dusting are not my thing. I like clean, crisp, a **tad more minimalism in my home. Much easier to clean! IMHO.
Someone mentioned Castle Goring as a symbol of upper crust taste. I agree it's a gorgeous place however, I noticed in LCC's recent tour vid, too many plates, odd doo dads etc. Antiques, if not done very selectively can look horror film creepy. She has a great mix! I would let the architectural embellishments speak for themselves.
I love how she mentions she pared down the ballroom because the architecture needs to shine. Exactly!
I don't hate La Markle's décor but some pieces are a yuck waste of money, like the bird nest framed wall art. Modern young people seem to like homes that look more like office buildings not character so much, as us boomers do. I think La Markle is copying the younger folks because that is who she is targeting.
I think PC and Camilla's house looks as if it smells like mothballs. Over the top old people décor (this coming from an old lady). JMHO.
Sometimes when people have multiple "living rooms" one is more formal and in my experience, usually doesn't contain personal photos especially of the unposed sort. Those spaces don't have to seem sterile though. Framed photos/"snapshots" are more often displayed in less formal rooms like a den, study, or family room (as we've seen with both Charles and Camilla's work spots.) But the space we've seen of H&M's (besides looking stuck in a Pottery Barn ad) is both sterile and informal. For example, in a traditionally formal living space, you wouldn't have multiple throws displayed. Purportedly those are for guests' use but at a formal gathering, guests wouldn't be wrapping up in throws. Just odd.
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Yes! I have a galley of selected photos on a long wall that is visible but not in a main area. Photos show family bonding so I like having a few. A favorite of my children by my bed is the first thing I see when I wake up.
I would expect she would have at least a wedding photo as a focal point because to her that was the score of her life! I don't include JH in the décor convo because I figure his choices don't matter...
What l like (admittedly as an old lady!)
about the parts of Charles and Camilla's house we've seen is the sense we are seeing stuff collected over time, much of it personally meaningful. Some of it does collect dust I'm sure as does my stuff. But I like my spaces to reflect my personal history, rather than be composed of a bunch of junk that could have been acquired in one day from the equivalent of Crate and Barrel. I don't know what H&M's targeted demographic likes though. You could be right they like impersonal office-type homes although I'm not sure those who are still actual teenagers do.
I believe the £75.000 engagement dress was purchased privately (by Charles no doubt) and at the time it was said the dress had a sheer top but was lined with nude fabric for the pictures.
She always tries the sex kitty but its inappropriate for a Royal. As a Royal, you don't need to call attention to yourself, you already get it. Or you should.
The cream dress was seen in a picture on the Queen's desk (or table???) and is way more in line with the traditional engagement photos of other royals.
What l like (admittedly as an old lady!)
about the parts of Charles and Camilla's house we've seen is the sense we are seeing stuff collected over time, much of it personally meaningful. Some of it does collect dust I'm sure as does my stuff. But I like my spaces to reflect my personal history, rather than be composed of a bunch of junk that could have been acquired in one day from the equivalent of Crate and Barrel. I don't know what H&M's targeted demographic likes though. You could be right they like impersonal office-type homes although I'm not sure those who are still actual teenagers do.
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Great way to put it! I guess I was thinking about pictures of their formal greeting area in their main house. It's looks stuffy! The offices are just as you describe which I think are nice, homey and personal. My office is similar.
I have anxiety and have learned that clutter makes it worse...sigh.
Thanks for helping me to reframe my thoughts! :)
I wish Megsy poo would get the memo her "sex kitty" left the litter box years ago. Is it even possible to look like a caricature of yourself after just a few years in the spot light?
Thought it would take at least a couple of decades for her to look like cat lady Jocelyn Wildenstein. Well not quite yet but stayed tuned...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1347120/meghan-markle-news-black-history-month-duchess-sussex-royal-family-spt
Just want to clarify that although the decor of the Sussexes is not my taste, I do not find it aesthetically hideous. That look seems to be trendy because I see it a lot, especially in expensive rentals, mostly for sale now as the virus killed the market for months.
EXACTLY! The decor for those are extremely bland so as not to clash with anybody's personal belongings. I would think that the family formerly known as royal family members would at least have some pictures of at least the two of them as a family unit in the background somewhere as they are their favorite and most loved people in the world. I suppose if they had pics of themselves, more people would start to wonder about the absence of Archie pics. New parents have pics of their first child everywhere (grin). Subsequent children, not so much.
https://archive.ph/hl26a
Someone on LSA pointed out that the only time Meghan told the truth is when she said 'I am such a fraud' on a Suits panel promo!
Blankets are used to snuggle up in on cold winters night, add the candles and you have a nice cosy setting.
I think a lot of it depends on where and how you grew up. My parents had a mid-century modern house, which I grew up in. So, the minimalistic, clean-lined, mid-century modern house is my parents' home and not my style. I've lived that look, and it reminds me of my parents and older people, so a more curated antiques, books and art-filled home is more to my liking today. My sister was the same way. We like more "stuff" in our homes, while our cousins and friends who grew up in normal 1960s homes now want the all-white, gray and taupe look that's so popular with the young ones now. That look just seems dated to me.
It also seems dated to me because it's been pretty much the same look since everybody got rid of the rose tones and flowery looks of the 80s. Hopefully, a new look is coming, and I see signs of it in people replacing stainless fixtures and cupboard hardware to gold tones now.
@ Hikari, I think you are spot on about the house in Montecito being a rental at best because I see no proof that they have the funds to make payments and take care of upkeep. What strikes me as hysterically funny at the moment is the thought that Markle is all in to campaign for the guy that has guaranteed that he will raise their taxes. I think that they would be hard pressed to pay taxes at the lower rate at present (and then there are the legal fees).
Just want to clarify that although the decor of the Sussexes is not my taste, I do not find it aesthetically hideous. That look seems to be trendy because I see it a lot, especially in expensive rentals, mostly for sale now as the virus killed the market for months.
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EXACTLY! The decor for those are extremely bland so as not to clash with anybody's personal belongings. I would think that the family formerly known as royal family members would at least have some pictures of at least the two of them as a family unit in the background somewhere as they are their favorite and most loved people in the world.
Yep. 'Meg's House' is tricked out exactly like an expensive rental home/show home.
Which is what I said in my last entry--all her stuff is so bland and basic, it just screams 'staging company' to me. Meg is used to enjoying other people's things for the short term and shoving off, and this is what the Montecito house seems like. After sitting vacant for years, it is suddenly occupied by the world's two most notorious entitled refugees from political oppression, who have somewhat limited funds in the circles they wish to fly in. I think Meg wanted to be close to Oprah, in case she could grift some deals with the Big O. Something likely soured with Tyler Perry, or else they would have stayed there, gratis, closer to where the action (Hollywood) is. Suddenly they announce that they've been househunting in a global pandemic and have reno'd, repainted and completely furnished a huge estate that's been neglected for almost a decade? Nobody in the area doing reconnoiters has seen a damn thing except maybe some boulders laying in the road. No sign of life at the guardhouse. Hmm.
Painting every surface white is the first thing realtors do when wishing to offload a property. And then, if this is an upscale listing, stocking it with a moderate-to-sparse number of bland, personality-free pieces just to help prospective buyers envision what furniture would look like in the space. Methinks the Harkles just moved into this showroom house, perhaps for a negotiated monthly rent, to generate some buzz for a vacant property in the midst of Covid. In a few months' time . . 3-6 months at a guess, they will announce that Montecito isn't working out and they are moving. Archie is too isolated . .or it's too far for Grandma Doria to help out . . or Harry will be living primarily in the UK so they need a smaller place . .or something. Because remember how much Harry absolutely LOVED L.A. until the next week he hated it?
Meanwhile, the Russians' real estate agents are quietly compiling a list of clients that actually have the money to pay for this white elephant. The Harkles are short-termers, I'd bet my boots on it. Meg's merching all those coffee table books and the birds' nest hangings. That stuff won't be coming with them wherever they land next.
Frogmore Cottage is being prepped for Meghan and Harry's return
Catriona Harvey-Jenner
Wed, 14 October 2020, 11:04 am BST
From Cosmopolitan
`Meghan Markle and Prince Harry might be all settled in to their new Montecito home, but it seems they haven't forgotten about little old Frogmore Cottage, the couple's UK dwelling in Windsor. Because according to new reports, Prince Harry (and possibly Meghan too) are hoping to travel back to the UK before the new year, and their family home in Windsor is being prepared for a possible return.
`Speaking to the Sun, a source said: "Staff at Windsor have been told to prepare [Frogmore Cottage] for the possibility Harry could come back."
`The insider added that "Meghan’s name was not mentioned" in conversations about a return, but it seems nothing has been confirmed yet. With the coronavirus pandemic continuing to grip the world, travel is still precarious, and so any firm plans are likely to be made last minute depending on what's deemed safe at the time.
`When they announced their plans to step down as working members of the royal family, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle insisted they intended to "balance [their] time" between the United Kingdom and North America, so the Duke and Duchess could "continue to honour our duty to The Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages."
`However, nobody foresaw back in January that, by March, we'd be in the midst of a pandemic with global travel largely halted. Coronavirus has meant the Sussexes haven't been able to return to the UK as much as intended, so it would make sense that they might want to try to squeeze in at least one visit this year, if safety allows.
`After all, their son Archie is growing quickly, and the British side of his family will be missing out on much of his development. Speaking to activist and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Malala Yousafzai, over a video call recently, Meghan and Harry shared how many important milestones Archie had hit throughout lockdown.
"We were both there for his first steps, his first run, his first fall, his first everything," said Prince Harry. As if Archie is now running!
`Despite the intention of stepping down as senior royals being to gain financial independence, the Sussexes have kept hold of Frogmore Cottage, their official residence here in the UK. What they did do, however, was repay the £2.4million of taxpayer money that was spent on renovating it in preparation for them moving in back in early 2019.
So whenever they can get back over, Frogmore Cottage will be waiting with open arms. As will we!
His `first everything'???? How ludicrous!
Open arms? Speak for yourselves, Cosmo!
Yet again, they're pushing the `Archie's grown much more than you peasants would expect' angle.
Is it speculation or does Cosmo know something we don't? Such as we're about to be presented with the sight of a huge child who looks more like a 3-yrs-old? Rather than one that's just reached 18 months?
Or are they coming back for some secret filming of the RF? Or to show us the decor of Frog Cott?
It beats me.
There are otherlanky, pale balding gingers in the world, of course, but beyond those generalities, Harry has an extremely distinct face. The close-set eyes inherited from his father and grandfather and the unique nose shape and the ratio of the brow and jaw are all the same. These things do not change when somebody loses weight or becomes haggard-looking. Harry's eyes are a very pale blue and show up as darker in poorly-lit interior Zoom videos. Video is distorting, furthermore. Harry's proportions and his distinctive gait all indicate that it's him, and he's no patriot but fully complicit. I'm not sure what it's going to take to convince the Skipettes that their poster boy is totally in cahoots with Meg--a public repudiation from HM? A drug OD? I would have thought they'd have given up on this fantasy about a year ago when the move to North America first happened.
Why would Hazza be a covert operative against Meg on behalf of Her Majesty when *he is the one who introduced this parasite into his family to begin with*? I do not have a Tumblr account so I cannot comment, but anyone who dares to suggest however mildly that Harry is most likely doing exactly what he wants is met with a very chilly reception. SMH. Seems like Harry stans are as deluded as Meghan stans. Both attribute superhuman powers and impeccable character and motives to their objects of worship.
I read this morning that when Harry comes back he won't be staying at Frogmore or in BRF residence but in a hotel. I can't remember where I saw that, something called inquisitor something?? Maybe not reliable.
I think a lot of it depends on where and how you grew up. My parents had a mid-century modern house, which I grew up in. So, the minimalistic, clean-lined, mid-century modern house is my parents' home and not my style. I've lived that look, and it reminds me of my parents and older people, so a more curated antiques, books and art-filled home is more to my liking today. My sister was the same way. We like more "stuff" in our homes, while our cousins and friends who grew up in normal 1960s homes now want the all-white, gray and taupe look that's so popular with the young ones now. That look just seems dated to me.
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I live in the house I grew up which I inherited. It was built in the 60's and is MCM. I decided to not change it but do only certain things like re-do the kitchen. It does not look like a scene from the Brady Bunch anymore though thank gawd! The MCM detailing remains, so yeah I can totally see what you are saying. Either one would want a change or one would want to maintain the style and yes, my current décor matches the MCM design of the house (influenced by the Danish modern of the early 50's) with a touch of eclectic, tribal/global and minimal pieces). I had not realized this until you mentioned it!
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@Hikari said,
Methinks the Harkles just moved into this showroom house, perhaps for a negotiated monthly rent, to generate some buzz for a vacant property in the midst of Covid. In a few months' time . . 3-6 months at a guess, they will announce that Montecito isn't working out and they are moving. Archie is too isolated . .or it's too far for Grandma Doria to help out . . or Harry will be living primarily in the UK so they need a smaller place . .or something. Because remember how much Harry absolutely LOVED L.A. until the next week he hated it?
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This is an interesting perspective. I can so see her doing that! They are very unstable and it shows in their constant moving around. I think maybe it is possible they didn't put down 14 mil for that monstrosity but chose to lease a home already staged and ready to go (and to desert). Her décor does look like an Airbnb lol...no offense to Airbnb owners- it's the trend.
Re. 'otel 'arry
Brr. Can you feel the chill? If this factoid is true, there's no cozy suite and crumpets with Granny at Windsor awaiting Harry when he touches back down in Blighty. He is no longer entitled to stay at a Crown property and has been demoted to barely-tolerated tourist over from the States for a visit. Stick that troublesome article in a hotel, where the hotel staff, not the Royal staff, will have to pick up his towels and carry out the empties.
Harry is constitutionally obligated to maintain a permanent address in the United Kingdom in his function as Counsellor of State--the immediate four in succession above 21+ including the spouse of the monarch. Currently this is Charles, William, Harry and Philip. It is unclear whether the Queen can remove any of these heirs as counselors or they have to stay in unless willingly abdicating their place in line. That'd be huge if this happens. Has Harry been told: Choose: Meg and Montecito, or your titles and place in succession? I submit that he should have had those questions put to him three years ago.
The counselors deputize for HM as required. William has done investitures. Were the monarch to be incapacitated or out of the country, the members would cover her duties as assigned. Charles is already handling a great many of these, under Mummy's directive. But Harry cannot be a full-time resident of America and still act as counselor while refusing to spend any significant time in England. It's just been unprecedented. Perhaps this is what Granny is going to be talking to him about on the upcoming summit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8840307/Meghan-Markle-donned-dress-African-American-female-designer-Fortunes-virtual-summit.html
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IMO this dress can only be worn by an under 30, waif type body, and look good. It looked matronly on La Markle.
Plus she has crazy eyes in the video...
His `first everything'???? How ludicrous!
Open arms? Speak for yourselves, Cosmo!
Yet again, they're pushing the `Archie's grown much more than you peasants would expect' angle.
Is it speculation or does Cosmo know something we don't? Such as we're about to be presented with the sight of a huge child who looks more like a 3-yrs-old? Rather than one that's just reached 18 months?
Well, IF Duck Rabbit Arch is the 'real' Archie . . doubtful in my mind based on the fact that he didn't seem to know Meghan from the Mexican landscaper . . that boy looked to be approximately 16-18 months back in May. I think he's a cute kid . . but he was already walking and talking then based on his use of short sentences. So six months on . .? Yeah, definitely running all over non-child friendly Mudslide Mansion. Still time this season to kick the old soccer ball round the 'garden' with the old man!
Here's my problem with 'Archie'. I think there are at least two main players for him. A third, the little one in 'Canada' (or Turkey) was a little girl. Different facial shape, different eyebrows . . delicate little hands, and oh, yeah, SHE'S WEARING A LITTLE GIRL'S OUTFIT. We've not heard anything about the gender neutral childrearing lately, maybe because the principal hire-baby is all boy, visibly so.
The christening/South Africa baby was not this baby, though. That little tyke (who was about 8-9 months, not 4 months last September with Tutu) had a more delicate narrower head and decidedly darker hair. Also the strabismus was on the opposite eye.
Here's a wrinkle: at the 'christening', we were presented with the 'official' (koff) color portrait in the Green Room. This little tyke was SA baby. But we were also shown a B&W photo of Harry and Megs outside looking at each other and ignoring their son who was smashed between them. The child had his eyes closed against the glare . . or maybe the proximity to these weird strangers . . .but I could swear that THIS baby is Duck Rabbit Arch. I wondered why a baby's head would morph into a different shape and the fuzz on the head turn suddenly blond between photos. Another former poster here showed these to her pediatrician husband, who said, "Those are two different babies." I remain steadfast in the belief that 'Archie' has been represented by different children throughout his first 'year and a half' of life. We haven't seen 'him' again because a) she no longer has access to those baby models and/or b) they now look too different and too big to use for the age that Archie is supposed to be.
Come clean, Meghan. It'd be good for your soul, if you had one.
The USA are not on the travel corridor list, i.e. Harry will have to self isolate for 14 days on arrival. I suppose he could have video meetings with the Queen. He's a pro at zoom meetings so this shouldn't be a problem. If he's staying in a hotel, he'll have to be stuck in. He would, of course, book a suite but this would still be very restrictive. We shall see. In the present circumstances, it would be much easier for him to just phone or do a zoom meeting from Mudslide Manor.
Re Archie, I'm not convinced there are different Archies. If you look at Archie with Desmond Tutu
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/25/royal-baby-archie-meets-desmond-tutu-on-south-african-tour
also Archie in SA
https://www.eonline.com/news/1148633/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-share-adorable-new-video-with-archie-for-his-first-birthday
and Archie on his birthday (scroll down a bit)
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-made-archies-first-birthday-cake-and-his-two-best-friends-were-there/
they are not very different. The child is obviously older but the ears are exactly the same and ears are as unique if not more than fingerprints. The nose and mouth are the same. The photos were taken eight months apart and babies' faces do change in eight months, mine did.
Sorry, i missed a word but i suggest that MM did not tell Amal she would be keeping it secret.
Every now and again someone here references the veteran BBC announcer who announced it as a surrogate birth, and there was a written one posted somewhere and pulled down to be replaced by what you might call the "BROKEN"annoncement--demoted her to princess, doctor's sig wrong, not according to time honoured custom.
Got the lawyer to sign an NDA and probably claimed everyone would torment Archie about his parentage all his life if tbe truth were told. So, our little secret...Harry might have gone for that.
Harry received a lot of guff about his parentage and James Hewitt, even with redheaded Charles Spencer and the old Earl and the two sisters. I think Tina Brown in the Diana Chronicles has a story about when he was with a group of students at the start of school and one some ways away but not far said something like it is obvious Hewitt is his father and I dont care if he can hear me.
It's been said here once or twice even.
Got the lawyer to sign an NDA and probably claimed everyone would torment Archie about his parentage all his life if tbe truth were told. So, our little secret...Harry might have gone for that.
To a degree, it's working, I guess. Notice how scrupulously the MSM plays along with the pregnancy and birth scenario as written. For all the cyber-ink that was spilled about Meghan's pregnancy 'style' ('scuse me while I pry my tongue out of my windpipe) no one ever breathed a whiff of 'Boy, her bump acts weird!' or anything like it. During the birth announcement circus, everything was presented for our consumption as 'normal', and only poor Nicholas Winchell, veteran newsman struck dumb at the scene gave any hint that something was rotten in BP. But he didn't *say* anything .. just refused to speak at all. That can always be attributed to a mini-stroke, not his unwillingness to spout lies.
Super-injunctions surround anything to do with Archie. Poor Mike Tindall let it slip, a couple months after the birth that 'none of us have met Archie yet'. He was fortunate to not be disowned on the spot. So whatever Meg is up to, we can bet that there is a Royal cover-up of gigantic magnitude in play here. Meg cannot get away with what she's getting away with without complicity from the very top. Elizabeth R. certainly knows whether she was presented with a live baby or not on May 8, 2019 . . which may or may not have been the sole time that 'Archie' was ever in her presence. The tin-hattiest amongst us could go so far as to say that thanks to the magic of digital manipulation & a 'keep schtum' policy among the BRF on this matter, that 'Archie' has not in fact ever actually met *any* of his royal relations nor they him. The only 'proofs' we have are 2-3 photos of extremely dodgy provenance--copyrighted exclusively to Sussex Royal, and therefore not official Palace photos of events in the line of succession. The Palace can claim resolute Arctic distance from the entire Archie matter. The glacial silence continues, though we hear tons about all the other Royal children. Only the blogosphere has the freedom to conjecture about the true origins of Archie.
Harry received a lot of guff about his parentage and James Hewitt, even with redheaded Charles Spencer and the old Earl and the two sisters. I think Tina Brown in the Diana Chronicles has a story about when he was with a group of students at the start of school and one some ways away but not far said something like it is obvious Hewitt is his father and I dont care if he can hear me.
It's been said here once or twice even.
Besides being a smear on the integrity of Harry's late mum, who admitted to the affair with Hewitt only after Harry was two years old, in 1986 (Hewitt himself teased the idea but admitted later that Diana's timeline was correct and they did not meet until 1986), it's demonstrably glaring that Harry is a Mountbatten. Line up photos of Philip, Charles and Harry. It might as well be in neon lights. Apart from dark red hair (a hair color not terribly uncommon in England, and prevalent on the maternal side and going back far enough, also on the paternal side), James Hewitt has brown eyes and entirely different bone structure. Harry's got Charles's eyes, Philip's nose, jaw . . On this point, Diana was telling the truth. She was not unhappy enough in her marriage to play around outside of it until after Harry was born.
In their engagement interview, they teased the possibility of adopting children. That would have been another worthy cause to embrace, though obviously also presented problems of succession in a hierarchy based on shared genes. Any notion that the Harkles would be able to put heirs in the line of succession except via the old fashioned way must have been shut down swiftly because whamity-bam . . within 8 weeks of her marriage, boom! she's pregnant. Such an event at her age and with her past history would have been unlikely bordering on science-fictional unless she was on a cocktail of hormone therapies and not only do those courses take months to complete, but they also have physical side effects, not of which she exhibited the first summer when she was very svelte throughout and extremely visible on the event circuit.
Their aim was not having a child to make a family so much as manufacturing an heir to pound signs. Arguably, they have done this, but interestingly, how their fleeing to North America coincided with the first international appearance of a baby who was charitably about twice as old as advertised.
The baby shower, I'm convinced, was more to show NYC & LA that she was a glitzy and glamorous celeb, hence the crowds (there are rumors they were rent-a-crowds). Even then rumors persist that she didn't get attention in NYC until her location was leaked first by a pap shot, and then even more details were leaked by her or someone from her team (allegedly).
Absolutely. When she decided to announce a pregnancy 5 months after the wedding, she was about to be upstaged as the newest Windsor bride and her supply of Narc fuel was running low. Ostentatiously announcing a pregnancy and then ostentatiously being pregnant for the next ten months fed her monstrous ego. Only the BRF got wind of her plans and that's why she disappeared from view for two months prior to 'the birth' From mid-March to the first week in May she wasn't seen at all. I wondered if Lord G. had her on house arrest.
Someday, long after this Queen is gone, a book shall be written about that incredible circus and what exactly went down . . maybe? I think King William would be OK with all that coming to light, if he's the one that posted about the surrogacy on the vanished KP Insta post. He can claim, correctly, that at the time all that was happening, he was too junior in the hierarchy for his views to be implemented and he had to go along with the seniors.
@Hikari: You are almost right, but I think she fell — face first — into a prince’s lap!
FORTUNE Failure (part II) ~ More Markle Madness.
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/10/14/fortune-failure-part-ii-more-markle-madness/
Americans do not care about 'titles'. The press Meghan is getting/coordinating at last minute are failing magazines with dying readership.
They are attempting to ride on Megz dailymail popularity to boost their own numbers (she is a headliner there with her own thumbnail/section).
Malala is sunshine saks client.
Nothing Meghan is doing translates to numbers. She has to stay in the papers for spike readership (mostly the shock value, but this proves to be lost on her) to try to get deals eventually from those numbers.
She doesn't have social because it would be an account with very few organic followers, I'd guess under 25k, up to 250k if I'm being generous. She cannot do 'deals' as it would discredit her biz pitches if her real numbers were shown. She even says 'Sussex Royal' was run by the firm. ok fine. what is Megs numbers without the firm now? Not good.
She would have social if it benefited her, but it doesn't. Plus she doesn't stand for anything and has zero real 'calls to action' which is marketing speak for 'the sell'....
Well, if Arch is actually theirs and not a baby model, I’d say “mission accomplished!” In the first 18 months to two years of this child’s life. So far his childhood has been absolutely nothing like Harry’s. Who as we all know, grew up in a Dickensian hellhole where all he got was crust of bread and had to Trail around the streets of London shining shoes and sleeping on the pavement. Lucky Archie, Growing up in Mudslide Towers, With a Narc mother who’s too famous and self-absorbed to take him out of the house, and a father he’s too depressed and stoned to get out of bed. Arch maybe cared for a nanny who may or may not be his maternal grandmother, or his parents could be fostering his autonomy and creative self expression by letting him fend for himself and cook his own meals, because he is such an advanced child. Yes, so far he’s had excellent parenting and will no doubt be the happiest and most famous perpetual invisible baby in the history of the world!
Bizzy Bee. Apologies if this has already been posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPavXBpd6G4
Utter BS. No way did they just happen across that.
Why would they be listening to teen podcasts on YouTube? They wouldn't.
There's a connection there somehow. We just haven't heard of it yet.
One of the parents is a friend of someone they know. Or one of the parents works for Sunshine Sachs, or knows someone who does.
Think Sunshine Sachs trolls the internet looking for things that Mm can insert herself into?
From the post, it looks like Teenager Therapy’s response to Maria was to post a disturbing Satanic curse against her, calling “Lucifer”to “smite” and “break” the person, complete with a bizarre satanic themed illustration that looks like a very old etching.
So, perhaps what links the Harkles to Teenager Therapy is sociopathy?
I thought I’d toss my two cents into the mix as I have been swinging back and forth between the Harkle’s marriage lasting between five and ten years or limping along for decades, or perhaps even a lifetime.
Meghan’s psychological and emotional grip on Harry has several facets that are go-to tactics used by people like Meghan who have narcissistic personality disorder. She initially lured him in by portraying a helpless orphan with no family and quickly morphed it using triangulation into being a damsel in distress first victimized by Toronto paps, then William and Kate, and the UK press, and morphed it into being victimized by her father, the UK public, the UK press, the royal family, and the world at large who made her the most trolled person on earth. She manipulates Harry into playing the part of the heroic prince who repeatedly rides in on his trusty polo pony to rescue her from the meanies of all sorts.
This creates a trauma bond that she uses to keep him under her control and influence, which, as a blind gossip item noted a few months ago has likely caused Harry to become a victim of Stockholm syndrome. She uses Archie in this bond too.
If Harry has the inner strength and perhaps some support from family and friends in the UK, he might be able to break free of Meghan’s spell and the marriage could be over in another three to five years. That is, if he doesn’t overdose on what I am guessing is a steady supply from high-end dealers eager to provide everything on royal command. If he dies OD, Meghan will become a professional widow and putbupon single mother for life, wringing every bit of victimization out of the situation while surfing through life atop Harry’s casket and the memory of Diana.
If he survives past the three to five year mark, Harry could end up so broken and tied to her via their kids, and the isolation she has created. She will continue to use their child/children as emotional weapons and pawns with Harry and the RF to keep him stuck with her for the next 20 years, or even a lifetime.
Of course, she might dump him, but the royal title is a huge reason not to discard him. The two things that I think might cause Meghan to dump him are if she meets a more useful mark, or they become incredibly deep in debt and the money dries up. If William is king, I don’t see him rescuing the Harkles. But if Charles is ruling, his weakness could cause him to open his wallet and fund them because he is afraid she will play the race card and he wants to help Harry and his grandchildren.
Archie and his sibling(s) will grow up confused and end up with PTSD from having a narc for their mother.
Megs in 10 years time? Back to yachting, recruiting...
Madame Mariner and her Sexy Sea Dogs.
Harry ‘Frogman’ Henry, will deliver the ‘extras’
Via Scuber, under snorter order...
Agreed.as i have said she did not think a baby would ever be a golden ticket.
@CookieShark "Hikari it also would have been intolerable for her to give up the spotlight that came with being pregnant, sorry to say. We have already seen that she can't stand for anyone else to get attention even for a day."
Agreed. Once baby comes the spotlight and fascination shifts to the baby.
"The baby shower, I'm convinced, was more to show NYC & LA that she was a glitzy and glamorous celeb, hence the crowds (there are rumors they were rent-a-crowds). Even then rumors persist that she didn't get attention in NYC until her location was leaked...."
I think you called it! And we see that it did not bring the great and (truly) glamorous crowding round her. Even before the pandemic her star was descending, along with...that guy's...uh, yeah, Harry, that guy.
Hear, hear! Also there is some prestige to being a patron...but H&M may become anti-prestigious for charities if they are not already.
Think Sunshine Sachs trolls the internet looking for things that Mm can insert herself into.
Your very probably right about SS trolling the internet fio online news for things the Sussex pair can be inserted into . The students were profiled in the New York Times
'The podcast usually features five students from Loara High School in Anaheim, Orange County.
Harry and Meghan learned about the “Teenager Therapy” podcast a few months ago after the hosts were profiled in The New York Times'
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-meghan-markle-world-mental-health-day-podcast-b931780.html
Then one needs the guts to say `I'm going to do whatever it takes to get out of here.'
I bet she's got H into such a mental mess, doubting his own perception of reality, that he hasn't a clue that the `reality' she projects for his `benefit' is totally false.
If there is a flesh-and-blood child involved, she may be threatening to harm it in a way that H can only prevent by staying. He may not even know if it's his child or not.
This is not going to end well, whichever way I look at it.
Harry's got Charles's eyes, Philip's nose, jaw . . On this point, Diana was telling the truth. She was not unhappy enough in her marriage to play around outside of it until after Harry was born.
Oh, I agree with you. But all the talk, gossip and lies certainly had their effect on Harry. Which was my point--if Archie was/is really a surrogate baby and publicly known as such, the tabloids would likely call him that every single time even if they liked Meghan. And when he went to school, it would be ammunition for some mean kid or kids to bully him. Harry would not want that.