If you throw a coin up in the air 100 times, you would expect it to come up "heads" somewhere in the area of 50 times, based on the laws of probability.
Life never goes as expected, of course, so in your real-life experiment, it's quite possible that heads would come up 40 times or 60 times.
On an unusual day, it might come up 30 or 70 times.
How, then, can it be that Meghan and Harry's coin comes up tails every single time?
It's statistically improbable, almost impossible, but they never seem to do anything right.
Own goals
Having been away from the Sussex story for awhile due to a work-related focus on the US presidential election, I quickly skimmed developments from the past week or two and found myself shaking my head at fiasco after fiasco.
Harry's made the most prominent own goals - from popping up on a lowbrow reality show (Britain's "Strictly Come Dancing"), to a self-pitying PR campaign about how the Royals refused to leave a Remembrance Day memorial wreath on his behalf, to bringing a celebrity photographer to a graveyard on Veterans' Day to shoot him looking solemn and wearing all his (mostly) unearned but shiny decorations.
Meghan was, comparatively, less obnoxious, although one has to assume her advice was behind some of Harry's dumb initiatives.
Little hope for PR hires
Meghan's media instincts are reliably bad, which means there's not much hope for her latest PR hire Christine Schirmer, a "top PR" woman with a cv that includes roles at Pinterest and Apple.
Since Meg is known for being unwilling to listen to advice, why such a supposedly successful PR presence would want to work with the Sussexes - and how they will get the money to pay her - is an open question.
(There's also the possibility that this particular hire may be one of those empty suits that goes from corporation role to corporation role, interviewing well enough to land top jobs but failing to produce much.
Schirmer has a remarkably empty LinkedIn profile for a woman working in the tech industry in San Francsico, and even her Pinterest page is meager, considering she worked there for 6 years.
She did attend Meghan's university, and online databases describe her as 44 years old, the same age Meghan is rumored to be. Some reports say they were members of the same sorority; could they have known each other at university?)
Magic bullet
A few stories about the PR hire suggest that Meg knows the Sussexes are no longer a "golden couple" (if they ever were) and that they will have to work harder to attract attention.
Yet strangely, they still seem reluctant to bring out their "magic bullet" which would guarantee them some immediate positive publicity - their son Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, supposedly around 18 months old right now, and entirely unseen for at least six months.
Why is that? And why are there never any signs of Archie in the Sussexes' multiple videos from home?
As many other media parents working from home have discovered, children do tend to turn up in work-from-home online appearances.
Not only does Archie never appear and is never heard in the background, but there are no stray toys, crayoned walls, or juice stains on the white furniture, the sort of things with which parents of "real" children are quite familiar.
If the Sussexes want a publicity "win", or at least something resembling one, their best approach is probably to bring out Archie.
If they can.
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I predicted that he wouldn't say anything about this Bashir investigation until he'd figured out a way to make it about himself, and lo and behold here we are.
That's why he's pivoted to the US army veterans / organisations.
The permanence of this move makes me question everything we have heard about Frogmore cottage since it was allegedly paid off in September.
The actual statement said he'd made a 'contribution' to the Sovereign grant in respect to FC. Media claimed he'd paid off the full £2.4K and in the future would rent.
Then last month we are told that Frogmore cottage was being prepared for his return for a visit.
Except going by that cemetery stunt which was filmed days or weeks in advance and the fact that his new press team started working last month and i presume on the cemetery stunt, he wasn't going to be in UK any time soon.
That prep last month was his belongings being removed and Eugenie being installed - we are told she moved in 2wks ago.
Richard Palmer is at pains to tell us this was done by private arrangement between two cousins, but this is a crown property. The crown estates and the Queen's office would have to be informed and involved in this private arrangement.
And then there is the secrecy of moving out in the night like thieves. That echoes their departure from Canada and not in a good way.
My conclusion is that Frogmore was taken from them, and we've been sold a slight of hand puppet show to make it seem otherwise.
This move cuts any remaining UK ties.
This excludes the "wokest" of virtue-signalling super emitters - those who fly around the globe in ultra-emitting private jets, lecturing the rest of the world about the dangers of global warming.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/super-emitters-1-people-cause-half-global-aviation-emissions
So, this dovetails with the DM report, except the way he spoke of it, Frogmore is/was absolutely not in their hands in any way any longer. Not for months, in spite of press releases. In other words, this arrangement with Eugenie and Jack would have had nothing to do with Harry, if my interpretation of what I was told is correct.
(He also said awhile ago there is no one-year review. He scoffed at that idea. He sees Harry’s tale as finished, over.)
Apart from that, it is my own belief that this story of “their things were moved out under cover of night“ is a lie, and nothing was removed because nothing was there. Night was used as a plausible excuse for lack of removal vans in daylight.
I wish Eugenie and Jack well. Happy for them. I wonder adds any credibility to the idea they may move up to active royals role.
The strange sudden article months ago claiming M&H paid off the restoration debts, and were paying rent was highly suspect mainly due to tax implications. This must have been Meghan’s PR getting in front of the fact the property had to be removed from their Grace and Favor as they no longer represented the Monarchy.
Frogmore was most likely agreed to be returned at their “talks” with the BRF in Jan. Charles then agreed to help with new accommodation wherever they settled. This also falls into line with those that think Megxit already occurred, and Meghan made up the ‘one year review’. Also, Harry’s distraught demeanor during January’s events. They are out of the BRF completely, but Meghan needed the one year review to claim royalty to promote themselves, since she couldn’t get the half and half deal.
I still don’t understand why Meghan and Harry don’t have two homes, with one near London. Or do they and we’ve never been told of it? It seems even more likely their home has been elsewhere around London and they never moved into Frogmore.
Acquitaine, I agree with your analysis. Frogmore was taken from them.
PLEASE, can anyone post this report. It's behind a paywall.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-william-and-prince-harry-wage-very-different-wars-on-the-media
Considering what Prince Andrew was up too promoting the Princesses only seems right. He destroyed his own dignity and it is wrong to not show support to his children who happen to be women. Promoting them will only make the BRF stronger in light of the scandals.
I think you’re right about ‘the dead of night’. No one moves in the night and even if they had, they’d need spotlights to load the trucks.
It’s starting to look like Megxit was also a BRF coordination. I think Meghan has something on Harry. The Soho House tawdry affair confirms this is highly likely. Drugs + uncouth threesome material. The possibility of Harry being a woman beater when he’s angry or drunk enough. Meghan gaslighting him and setting him up. Things that would bring such shame to the Monarchy and William and Charles. He’s too far down the line to allow his antics to damage the RF more than they already have.
Distance is the only option.
Why does it matter? Really? Are you sure you’re at the right blog? :)
If they never lived in Frogmore and/or it was taken from them, how do we know they are in a residence in Montecito that they supposedly purchased, as their PR claims?
Nothing they do or say publicly matches their actions.
I’d say the removal of FrogCott matters a lot on symbolic grounds. In my opinion, the Harkles never lived there. A semi derelict servants quarters overlooking a graveyard where they buried the last American Duchess was never going to be acceptable to Mugsy, no matter how much was spent on it. But it was their last remaining tie to England, and as long as it was being promoted as their home, they could always tease the prospect of going back. Frogmore will become the bucolic family home it was intended, though I’m surprised that Eugenie wanted it, given how much controversy surrounds that place. This smacks of the Palace washing their hands of Harry. There may not be so much as a camper van awaiting him if he ever decides he’s had enough of LaLaLand.
No idea. The word tourist was his word choice, not mine. I assumed he meant that Harry, as a now-distanced personage, has no more rights to expect a guest room or welcome at a royal residence than would any other traveler. Hotel time, in other words.
Jessica,
Well, you’re making me wonder if the “exchange” my client referenced was more like “we will pay it off, but give us the keys” — I guess I thought the exchange might have had to do with covering up wrongdoings by H&M, and taking the house, but now I don’t know.
Otherwise, do you think the duo need cash badly, so rented it to Eugenie? Tell you the truth, I would have the place thoroughly checked for hidden mics and cameras before moving in. Not kidding, M strikes me as super Soho-creepy in that way.
It’s very possible they needed the rental bill covered, especially if they aren’t returning to live and can stay at a Soho House. Meghan and Harry have a lot of explaining to do around Frogmore Cottage.
The cynic in me thinks it was taken at Megxit, as you say part of the ‘exchange.’ The firm covered the costs, and won’t comment on it. Employment had ended. This left the door wide open for Meghan’s PR insanity; More drama, more Royal connection, more statements of payment, teasing their return, on and on.
Was the Eugenie announcement from Meghan’s PR?
If the BRF kicked them to the curb and took the keys away, their Royal galavanting (cemetery, medals) is even more absurd!
Then I remember history. Will Harry be in the history books? Frankly, except for DM in America, this blog, and once in a while People magazine, nobody frankly gives a damn in America. Harry is not Diana, and most people today care less about her death almost a quarter of a century ago. When I as a young kid, everybody (females) stayed up all night to watch Diana marry Charles. Not one person 40 and younger know, or care about, Harry and Meghan. Nobody gives a damn about them. It is hard for the British to understand that Americans care about the Queen of “England.” Americans do not care or know that the Queen is a Monarch over England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and the Commonwealth countries, with her face on the money. Americans love the Queen, and William (Diana’s very cute until age 30 son.). Americans love the idea of British royals. They just don’t care to read or even look at a People Magazine Most What. There is no voting. The last four Sexiest have been Black Men. Nobody knows them, since nobody buys People magazine.
M and H are losers in every way.
That commenter is right, it was boring, but it wasn't without a lot of plotting planning scheming drugs and alcohol. I doubt Harry agreed to a date with Meghan without being totally shit-faced at the bar. He probably did think it would be a one night dinner affair. They probably recorded the whole thing and are using blackmail. Harry doing hard drugs would fit the bill.
I'm thinking that Soho House doesn't sound like a nice, benign place to stay, eat, or gather to me. (Alleged) blackmail, drugs, pimping, pretty sweet gig Markus had there. I wonder how many other members might have been similarly ensnared, because I doubt Prince Gormless would be a once and done deal. I wonder if procuring of drugs and sex workers was just one of the services provided and was sanctioned by the owner or was this just an independent operation by senior management? I also wonder if this isn't an Epstein-type blackmail operation, albeit with a slightly thicker veneer of respectability, disguised as a chain of private clubs.
I expect PH the Gormless does, in fact, have a severe learning disability since he didn't learn his lesson when the family jewels were publicly exposed in Vegas. The BRF reportedly had to expend a great deal of money then to keep most of his whoring and recreational pharmaceuticals out of the news. I shudder to think what they are paying to bury now.
I know, I sound like a naive idealist that isn't aware that there is no such thing as illegal if there is enough money involved. I think humanity would be better served if light was shined brightly on the cockroaches and a pest control company brought in.
Does this mean she will become a working senior Royal? The Cambridges sure need the support.
After all, FC is a Crown Estate property so can the Queen handed it out to whomever no strings attached?
No matter what you believe about them, I have to say that this is a show which keeps on giving.
And just when you think the story has been exhausted - something else comes flying out of left field (a twist you never thought of).
Perhaps they could find a job with either the soaps or the telenovelas. Clearly they could add to the plots (for years to come).
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/duke-and-duchess-of-sussex-delighted-to-open-frogmore-to-princess-eugenie-and-jack-brooksbank-152783/
In which the Montecito Mountbatten-Windsors assure everyone that FrogCott is *still their home*, which they fully intend to stay in, you know, when they make all those visits to England someday. Being the magnanimous philanthropist and caring young parents that they are, they want us to know that it gives them great joy to be able to “open THEIR home to Eugenie and Jack as they start their family”. They are letting E. and J. stay there, see. Kind of like the same way Tyler Perry and assorted Russian oligarchs let the Harkles crash at theirs for indefinite time periods.
This is very reminiscent of the time they shot back immediately to another bit of news they didn’t like, to wit: the Queen doesn’t own the word Royal. Apparently she doesn’t get to decide how she dispenses Crown Estate properties, either.
Perhaps the “exchange” mentioned in an above post was this: Renounce all claims to Frogmore and Harry’s Counselor of State berth, there by freeing him of the obligation to maintain residency in the UK. Replace the 2,300,000 pounds that was either spent or taken. In exchange, Charles would help with a lump sum for an American residence. Personally I think Mudslide Towers is being rented by the hour. Once a scammer, always a scammer. And she’s got a massive reckoning in court coming her way.
Harry is in exile, hence his pathetic posturing and cosplay as Prince of America and her Armed Forces.
Harry needs a remedial American history and civics tutor stat. We told his great grandfather six times removed or something like that, George III to p!ss off. Harry obviously thinks the American good will for his glamorous mother who died tragically will automatically be extend it to him because he’s her kid...For profit. Not so much, Hemorrhoid.
I'm enjoying all your thoughts!
I'd like to throw in that I agree it looks as if FrogCott is now being taken from them - even if it is nothing more than a symbolic gesture (since we are not sure they ever lived there to begin with).
I think they may be headed to a final tossing out but I'm not certain it has already been done as I don't know why they would be allowed to keep those titles, place in the succession, prominent patronages, and roles in the CommonWealth Trust.
Those titles are what allow them, especially her, to play at being royal, to monetize being royal, and to use their royal connections as a platform.
The RF really needs to rip that bandaid right off and call a final separation - and do it publically. I'm sure the Queen can do this in a diplomatic way by declaring how she loves her grandson but understands his need to follow his own path.
I'd love to hear her wax on about how she does not want the restrictions of being a royal to hinder him in any way. 'For Harry's sake, Her Maj regrets it but she must remove him completely from the firm and the monarchy so that he may become truly free to explore his full potential'(LOL).
I'm sure they would still wave around the "prince" title but with the public being clear on both the duchy titles and the place in succession being removed it would certainly serve to defang them.
Well, this certainly explains the petulance of not publicly (or privately either, I expect) wishing Daddy a happy birthday or a happy anniversary to HRH and PP. I wonder what it was that earned them the final royal boot applied firmly to a** and whether something else disreputable that hasn't been reported is about to be exposed? (I need more popcorn for this movie!)
I expect that a veritable floodgate of suppressed information may be about to break forth.
The strange sudden article months ago claiming M&H paid off the restoration debts, and were paying rent was highly suspect mainly due to tax implications. This must have been Meghan’s PR getting in front of the fact the property had to be removed from their Grace and Favor as they no longer represented the Monarchy.
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I meant to add to my last post...
On the other hand, I believe we heard the Queen wanted them to keep FrogCott as part of her way of making Harry feel welcome if he wanted to come back - with or without the Megstain. This is why I think it's so important she does a true bandaid rip now that they've proved themselves to be vipers.
Does anyone else remember her Maj wanting FrogCott kept in their names?
Even though they did not get their way with a half-in-half-out agreement, they were still left with some royal roles. The pandemic wasn't quite up to full boil when Megxit was negotiated and maybe the Queen believed they would actually still need a place to stay when in England.
As I mentioned in my earlier post at 2:12am - I really hope Harry and Meghan are not making money off of Frogmore by renting it out to his cousin.
https://www.quora.com/q/themarkles/I-am-often-asked-about-Soho-House-I-have-been-both-a-member-and-also-worked-for-them-as-a-contractor-I-refrained-from-p?
If true, it confirms a lot of our suspicions.
Not to mention that she died almost 24 years ago at the age of 36. The Americans that she meant the most to (aside from creepy stalker Meghan who was using Diana to lull her prey) were women aged 55 and up and at least half of us are now aware of her mental problems that were covered up in the past. We watch him, say "Well, bless his heart, he's just as special as his Momma was!" but that just means that we think he should be in a protected home for the mentally incapable, not that he should be showered with riches because he was an obligatory spare heir.
It doesn't have to be a magazine spread showing how they redid the copper tub and orangerie!
How about Eugenie waving from the front door?
A photo of them in the garden or the couple driving up to the property?
Fergie arriving for a visit?
Sounds to me as though they are still trying to one up Eugenie just like they did at her wedding, implying that Eugenie and Jack will be living at THEIR castoff home in a grace and favor situation FROM THEM while THEY are living the high life in a mansion in California. Somebody who shall remain nameless (no demon summoning from me!) is pissed that cute baby pics will be coming soon, the baby will likely be displayed to the public by the proud parents, and the birth announced in the traditional fashion.
I doubt highly that the purported previous residents ever paid a cent or lived there despite public announcements. If they did ever spend any time in the residence, I hope an appropriate cleanser of evil spirits was hired to sanitize the house of malign influences and vegan paint before Eugenie and Jack moved in. (The mysterious late night lights were probably just for the exorcist.)
If they could have, I'm sure H&M would have done a deal to make money off Eugenie living in Frog Cott but I don't believe Eugenie would have been willing to hide stuff from Granny or from the courtiers. I just don't think she'd think Frog Cott was H&M's property to do with as they pleased. (I'm amazed how many news stories still state TQ "gave" the house to H&M.)
I'd say it does. We are providing (for as long as this stays up anyway) evidence for the attitude of thoughtful, educated, people which would not otherwise see the light of day.
It's a version of the Mass Observation scheme of the 2nd WW in UK which now gives historians valuable first-hand accounts of what ordinary people thought at the time, not the official view nor that expressed in the papers or `on the wireless'.
http://www.massobs.org.uk/about/mass-observation-project
Before the 20th century, there were the political cartoons of the 18th century and, earlier still, the tracts of the first half of the 17th century (a time before newspapers) which fed into the discourse leading to the Civil War, aka Great Rebellion, the execution of Charles I and the establishment of the Commonwealth, a republic that was more or less a military dictatorship.
I also like to imagine that we function as a `hive mind', gathering information/intelligence that might otherwise slip through the net.
Think of the future theses: `A Preliminary Evaluation of the Evidence Provided by the Weblog `Nutty Flavor et al.,The Attitudes of Thoughtful Individual Observers Worldwide to the Downfall of Prince Harry the Gormless (2016 - date tbc)'
Mass Observation is alive and well at the University of Sussex (nice coincidence!) so I hope there's someone there who is aware of us. I volunteered a while back as an Observer but heard nothing. They'd probably been overwhelmed by people like me.
I wonder if we will get photographic confirmation of Eugenie and Jack living at FrogCott?
It seems to me that it would have been checked for signs of life frequently by reporters and paps. Perhaps it was "assigned" to Eugenie so that Prince and Princess Harry couldn't come back expecting to squat there for free. "Sorry, Frogmore has been reassigned to Eugenie and Jack, I suggest you get a hotel at your expense."
I remember at the time of the first alleged moving in to Frogmore that people from the UK concluded that it was unlikely that the extensive renovation work that was required to get the house fit for habitation could have been completed in time. Workmen should have been crawling about the place like ants in a disturbed ant bed but no reports of such.
I have no idea with them what is fact or fiction. I'm assuming it is 97% fiction.
After they decamped from England after a giant temper tantrum, perhaps the renovation work could have been completed quietly sans vegan paint and floating yoga floor?
For someone that is anti-bullying, she is relentless with Eugenie. Leave Eugenie alone you crazy person!
Wasn’t Harry very close with his cousins?
Re: court case. If Meghan is inserting Senior Royal Family members who cannot be witnesses...it looks to me she is hoping they (BRF) will pay for the case to go away.
Info dump here we come!! 🍿 🍿 🍿
...reads very dramatic and attention grabbing! After the way that Megsy tried to upstage Eugenie’s wedding with her super oversized coat indicating she was with child I doubt very much the handling over the keys was ever a thing that actually occurred. More like the Sussex’s chucked the keys back to the courtiers etc. made a quick and hasty get-away across the pond and The Queen gave the cottage to Eugenie etc.
It goes on to say....
Couple were gifted the Grade-II listed house by the Queen ahead of marriage... The word gifted is not a word we use in the UK, so I could ponder on the fact it’s another PR fluff piece put out by the Megsy, but the DM has very lazy so called journalists and doesn’t worry about stuff like that.
Of course the article could also be entirely fabricated.....to garner good PR and attention for the Duo, after all the positive PR about the royal family.
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Everything about them is a lie. Why? Now I understand why he was so surprised about Meghan being pregnant. Especially, if true he is bi and may have been seeing Markus, too.
Is this to throw Meghan to the wolves or to defame the BRF? 🍿
When you think it through, and everything we’ve been told is a bold faced lie between these two idiots (also involving others) I am actually gobsmacked. Meghan’s behavior was never meant to be Royal. Maybe Meghan is a lesbian too. Now they are in the US, we see her not acting so hard. She doesn’t touch Harry.
This might be way off, but I cannot read that Quora and look at the interviews and not see complete BS now.
If the whole thing was a scam, perhaps there won't have to be a divorce settlement (no marriage, no divorce). I've no idea what might befall Archie, if he exists.
Btw, today's Mail states that a `palace spokesman' said the Frogmore Cottage `arrangement was a private matter between the Harkles and Pr. Eugenie' but the other `sources' sounded straight out of Megsy's mouth, via Ominous Scabby.
If the whole thing was a scam, perhaps there won't have to be a divorce settlement (no marriage, no divorce). I've no idea what might befall Archie, if he exists.
Btw, today's Mail states that a `palace spokesman' said the Frogmore Cottage `arrangement was a private matter between the Harkles and Pr. Eugenie' but the other `sources' sounded straight out of Megsy's mouth, via Ominous Scabby.
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisshipitv?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
What kind of lease agreement do the Harkles have for Frogmore Cottage, and why does it remain private? The lease agreements for Andrew and Edward are available for the public to peruse. Why do the British people and media tolerate this secrecy?
Do the Harkles have the right to sub-let Crown property? Do they have the right to make a private arrangement for property they do not own?
The idea of the Harkles and Eugenie and her family sharing Frogmore Cottage is absurd. They need the royal connection, because that is all they have, so they spin these stories ...
Maybe the Harkles defaulted on rent and were 'evicted', but to save face, his family is allowing the PR spin. Maybe Harry has finally realised that he is never going back and that was Meghan's plan all along.
I do think that the Harkles did live at Frogmore Cottage, but not for long. The building was already scheduled for repair (roof, windows, painting, wiring, plumbing ...,) which could have been done while no one was paying attention. Stripping and replacing bathrooms and kitchens, knocking doorways into walls to create one dwelling, putting in floating floors ... all could have been done in 4 or more months. I have stripped and replaced a kitchen (moving the sink so major plumbing work), installed a new geyser system, redid the bathroom and flooring, which was tortuously slow and delayed but took a couple of months. (Getting planning approval for a listed building in such a short time means special favours.) The only time Meghan was 'stuck' in that house was when she was on pregnancy leave, and even then there were luxury getaways for her.
Meghan wanted Windsor Castle. She was given Frogmore Cottage. She must have been seething! Did she manipulate and lie to Harry or did he genuinely believe that Frogmore Cottage would be their home?
The real scandal that a good journalist should objectively investigate and report is that far from her whining about how she was treated, everyone bent over backwards to give her special treatment. She took and took and took from everyone, cynically using them to get back to Hollywood to live like the A-lister she can never be and never was. Her spending was out of control, even for a royal; her web of deceit and spin can perhaps never be fully dismantled; her destruction of Harry's ties to his family,country, friends, life is tragic. Yes, of course he is weak and flawed, otherwise she could not have exploited him the way she did.
This person posting on Quora is supposedly legit, and, gosh, he has a lot of tea!
It sounds believable, but it could all be posts by some deluded person making up stories. If you want to go directly to the Quora account and explore ...
https://www.quora.com/profile/Christopher-Jones-18
I totally agree. I also agree that if he was gay etc in Western society it wouldn’t be a scandal, people might raise an eyebrow and say oh but to infer it as something salacious is very odd because it’s perfectly legal.
On a related note, Lord Ivar Mountbatten who came out as gay and has since re-married (to James Coyle), and is a cousin of the Queen.
Megs/Hapless get hit via a revealing info dump at Quora.
I think the Grey Men were behind this one and have more info dumps awaiting. Believe me, this Quora entry is circulating far and wide. The bisexual part might help them with their young sugars.
The Gruesomes never paid up for Frogmore but Charles might have paid it off from Duchy money. I hope the titles get stripped after Christmas via a zoom chat. No need for them to tread on "racist" British soil.
Quora --- I liked the claim that all the Soho Houses are empty, doing zero business due to Covid 19. I believe it.
It sounds like a play on words by AnT’s client.
As quoted by AnT...
So weeks ago, my client, the older, PC-aged connected source in that world, said he’d heard via his circle that H&M has been required to give up Frogmore fully “as an exchange” (did not elaborate in exchange for what). He suggested the duo were finished, as in, the upon their next UK visit they would “enter as tourists”— that is all I know. That has been his view since spring. But, he hasn’t really been wrong.
They were basically saying Harry was no longer welcome and as such a stranger in his own country.
However, I never considered the possibility that they met at Soho House and Meghan approached and then seduced him. Sine Cory catered for a private dinner for Harry with the Mulroneys as guests, I always assumed she pushed her way into that occasion and met him there, and then stalked him by following him to London and getting a friend to arrange a date at Soho House (perhaps the story about the silver dress is true and the mutual friend showed him that photo as he had forgotten meeting her in Canada). If they first met at Soho House in Toronto, there was probably a follow-up date in London at Soho House that June, when she rushed over the pond to bag a prince, but it was not a blind date.
And, yes, she was still in a relationship with Cory when she met and hooked up with Harry.
The image of what roast chicken actually means in urban slang is 'eek' but I somehow find it believable ... a couple of bottles of Tig and half a dozen beers after she pushed herself into his life, with his private room not far away ...! I can somehow also believe that they would enjoy the double entrende of the reference to roast chicken in their engagement interview.
Is it not awful that it is so easy to accept that everything they say is a lie or spin? Surely between them they have enough maturity to realize that their actions and behaviour have a large part to play in this and they are not poor, helpless victims of bullies? When they complain and whine, what comes to mind is the saying 'there is a river in Egypt called denial'.
Mr and Mrs Brookshank have legally taken over the lease of Frogmore Cottage from Prince Harry as arranged by (insert name of person in charge of Crown properties). Since the Queen and Prince Charles paid back from their personal funds the Sovereign Grant funds used to refurbish Frogmore Cottage for Prince Harry and his wife, the Brookshanks are not liable for any of this repaid debt. The Queen and her family wish Eueginie and Jack and their family a long and happy life at Frogmore Cottage.
I found the information around their HRH interesting especially that it confers automatic diplomatic status to holders of it if they are British royals. That's something i was unawarebof as i thought the HRH was only good for UK borders and only a social status rather than actual international diplomatic status.
This explains why the Harkles fought hard to hold onto their HRH even if it's mothballed.
The author goes onto reveal that the Harkles, as per their usual, markled themselves here with their flit from Canada leaving behind a security bill for the Canadian taxpayers. This on top of RPOs complaining about the trivial things they were expected to do for the Hackles whilst in Canada which had nothing to do with their jobs.
The security bill allegedly led to complaints sent to the UK govt and the UN from 18 commonwealth countries. The US would have been made to provide security because of that HRH. The UK, UN and entire commonwealth allegedly swiftly moved to remove this diplomatic status from the HRH for the British royals - screwing up this cushy perk for the other British HRHs.
This is why the POTUS tweeted 'No security for Meghan and Harry' seemingly unprompted. The Harkles immediately said they hadn't asked, but their handlers would have asked. I doubt Harry (or Meghan) paid attention to how their security was organised.
I think this revelation might explain Harry's entry and continued stay in the US. His HRH granted him a diplomatic visa or perhaps he holds a diplomatic passport and no other.
His diplomatic status may have been revoked, but his visa / passport may still hold until expiry or the end of the review period.
https://www.quora.com/Did-Harry-and-Meghan-ask-the-US-to-pay-for-security
Is it possible there are still powerful being the scenes discussions about dealing with the trouble making Harkles?
The king who had to go: Edward VIII, Mrs Simpson and the hidden politics of the abdication crisis
Phillips, Adrian, author
The untold story of the backroom politics behind the handling of the abdication crisis of 1936. 'The King Who Had to Go' deals in the harsh realities of how the machinery of government responds when even the King steps out of line. It reveals the pitiless and insidious battles in Westminster and Whitehall that settled the fate of the King and Mrs Simpson. Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin had to fight against ministers and civil servants who were determined to pressure the King into giving up Mrs Simpson and, when that failed, into abdicating
Perhaps the Rose stories about William were actually her threat to Harry, if he had his own secret affair with Rose’s supposedly bi husband?
Perhaps there is video of awkward threesomes with MM and MA, an encounter with OS too, or polo Nacho, or his other long term best pal and they convinced H it was bad for the world to know this. Again, he is a dim bulb. His security would know all about his preferences by now, in any case. The only other reason to hide it would be potential blackmail against sitting royals, or serious retribution from cultures who still deem homosexual leanings a crime. None of it seems likely. Did MM encourage invitations to the Clooneys and trips to Uncle Elton to bait this speculation, if this was a longer term plan by Markus, alleged to live with them on and off per Quora? And what if MM herself involved Jessica and her husband in this game, as there have been rumors about Mulroney in Toronto for awhile?
The only thing that I can see causing an issue is if they brought in underage partners for H for, as the DM would say a “drug-fueled romp” and there is evidence of that and something going wrong.
Harry is a weak fool obsessed with his public persona and tabloid comments and so, yes, I can see him hiding this. The funny part is, the only one who risks fallout is MM, if you think about it. Entrapment, living a lie, shaming H.... if he were to open up, this could be over quickly. He is too stupid to know this.
How H continues to stay here is the question. How his tax status is handled is another. He cannot seek work in the US under his current visiting or application status, yet there are speeches and Netflix. He now lacks a fixed U.K. address. Frogmore was not his to rent out, and Eugenie would hardly want MM as a landlord anyway. Such fishiness all around. Which is also why I posted the Oprah green screen comment.
Seems, appears, perhaps are all subjective and not facts. My concerns are, just because someone comes across as legitimate doesn’t mean they are nor what they state. We all know how fake news travels these days, the internet is rife with it. It’s tittle-tattle and rumour till the truth is known.
Maybe Harry is bi, maybe he would be apprehensive how that would come across to the public and some of his family. Perhaps he and Megsy have an understanding , so many maybes . It still really isn’t anyone else’s business. Discussing it comes across as muck-racking. :o/
Harry's sexual orientation is being discussed as a possible explanation as to how Markle was able to worm her way into his life. Nothing more.
The only thing that I can see causing an issue is if they brought in underage partners for H for, as the DM would say a “drug-fueled romp” and there is evidence of that and something going wrong.
Harry is a weak fool obsessed with his public persona and tabloid comments and so, yes, I can see him hiding this. The funny part is, the only one who risks fallout is MM, if you think about it. Entrapment, living a lie, shaming H.... if he were to open up, this could be over quickly. He is too stupid to know this.
Yes. I was thinking last night that, were it to be revealed that Harry is gay, he would be the toast of Hollywood, Ellen and Elton could co-host his coming out party, maybe somebody would take him in hand (so to speak) over his grooming/clothing and, best of all, he could ditch the b*tch and have somebody ghostwrite a book about the bullying he received over his royal gayness. I am not seeing the downside here. I would think that any presentable man that he partnered with would be welcomed into the BRF with tears of relief and thanksgiving.
Logically, though, I think "SURELY it must be more than this. Why would somebody subject themselves to being cut off from their friends and family over sexual orientation in a western society where there is no death penalty for such? *sigh*
Most of us live within a prison of our own making whether we realize it or not.
I'm not at all sure the diplomat claim re: the US made by that Quoran for any and all HRHs is true. Otherwise, we surely would have heard it mentioned for Andrew! (The only time I have heard it mentioned it was discounted. The family member has to be formally representing TQ.)
The Quoran may indeed have good tea about Soho House. But before believing everything he says, I (still) urge you to read some other Quora answers of his as he makes some rather fantastic claims.
Here he claims Archie can't inherit the throne because he isn't being raised in the COE.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Archie-in-line-for-the-throne
Here he claims Harry can't be regent because M is divorced and the Commonwealth voted for Anne to be regent of the UK. (Of course, she's divorced too!)
https://www.quora.com/In-the-event-of-him-being-needed-would-Prince-Harry-make-a-good-and-popular-regent-for-the-United-Kingdom
Here he claims when King, Charles controls Archie and all his travel.
https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think-will-happen-with-Harry-and-Megan-once-Charles-is-King
Here he again claims if George came to the throne as a minor the regent would be Anne, not Harry. (And not Andrew, Bea, Eugenie, or Edward either)
https://www.quora.com/If-Prince-George-came-to-the-United-Kingdom-throne-while-he-was-a-minor-would-it-be-possible-to-bypass-Prince-Harry-as-regent-and-appoint-someone-else
Hmm.
Maybe Harry is bi, maybe he would be apprehensive how that would come across to the public and some of his family. Perhaps he and Megsy have an understanding , so many maybes . It still really isn’t anyone else’s business. Discussing it comes across as muck-racking. :o/
I thought that trying to understand their inexplicable, contradictory behavior WAS the reason for this blog.
It absolutely is, but someone’s sexuality providing it’s legal should be off limits. It’s only my opinion but I feel this subject cheapens the blog and brings it down to another level.
http://www.massobs.org.uk/about/mass-observation-project
Interesting. A project like that could also show the divergence between what the public are told to believe versus what they actually do believe (BUT most people are too circumspect to reveal their true beliefs at this time).
The discussion here of this Quora item, be it true or false, simply is another part of our long discussion of why H would have married MM after seeming distressed by her presence on several public, photographed occasions. It harks to her manipulative games, threats, ability to access millions of taxpayer dollars. It links to the shady Soho connection, the shady financial games and secrets. We discuss every nugget we find and weigh it, trying to figure what has turned Harry from the brighter seeming person he was to thus diminished self, and implications. His wife is engaged in a costly trial that now has the scent of fraud about it. We are trying to figure out and understand many things, and this is one more piece.
"...someone’s sexuality providing it’s legal should be off limits..."
I think the issue of sexuality is relevant in the sense of discussing whether the RF would feel the need to go to great lengths to "cover it up" if Harry was anything but 100% heterosexual. (But it's very easy to go over the line.) We've certainly discussed Andrew's sexual appetites and sexual "persona" and so far, it's not clear he knowingly did anything "illegal" either.
The fact is human emotion, sexuality and the impetus or momentum provided by same, have influenced history, royalty, business and its players forever. Even the history we now live. My opinion.
SwampWoman said, I thought that trying to understand their inexplicable, contradictory behavior WAS the reason for this blog.
It absolutely is, but someone’s sexuality providing it’s legal should be off limits. It’s only my opinion but I feel this subject cheapens the blog and brings it down to another level.
So we're not supposed to talk about whether his sexuality has been/is being used to blackmail him? Seems *very* pertinent to me. Prince Andrew didn't do anything illegal, his sexuality is his own business, and yet where is he today?
The fact is human emotion, sexuality and the impetus or momentum provided by same, have influenced history, royalty, business and its players forever. Even the history we now live. My opinion.
Absolutely. Sex, power, money has been the impetus throughout history (although it may be cloaked under more prosaic reasons).
Good pts. I thought Charles had dropped the Defender of Faiths idea. I thought it had originated with him, not on his behalf.
I'm not sure how one decides if a person "follows" the COE teachings or "belongs" to the church. Christening, of course. Harry obviously was christened but if Archie wasn't christened, that's a good point. But other places Jones claims Archie can't be king because his godparents aren't known. And what's with all his claims about Anne being voted in by the CW? She wasn't married (this time) in the COE. She was married in the Church of Scotland. In that church, Jesus is the head, not the monarch, I believe.
People have questioned how often Will and Kate actually attend church too. Obviously none of the younger royals attend church or appear as devout as TQ certainly appears to be. But I've never seen it suggested Will isn't in line for the throne.
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Sorry Puds, I think I was confusing you with Pantsface she lives in Norfolk as I do. It was Fairy Crocodile who wanted to know about Norfolk. I was the one who said how remote life can be with no trains, buses etc. ;o)
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"I had one person in the [British] royal family — they would not disclose their identity for obvious reasons — they had me edit their pretty petty text messages they were sending their boyfriend. Just crazy stuff," Fasulo says of past writing gigs.
I think it's highly reasonable to believe this is about Rache texting Just H. The press release is just weeks after the Sussex wedding and it makes no sense for any of the BRF to hire an American to ghostwrite private texts. If true, I think @Wild Boar Battle-Maid is onto something when she talks about fraud perpetrated in this marriage. Maybe I'm too idealistic but I would shudder at the prospect of my boyfriend/husband sending me private texts written by a modern-day Cyrano de Bergerac.
This writer's testimony seems credible for a few reasons. First, Rache the queen of word salad cannot hold a candle to any serious writer including this blog's slew of writers and bards. Second, there have always been rumors the Tig was ghostwritten. Third, we now have reports palace staff contributed to the writing of Rache's letter to her father. Why not lovey-dovey texts? Rache says she composed her father's letter on her phone. Maybe the reality is she regularly employs ghostwriters and edits while she hustles gig after gig.
I do not deny the power of emotions and sexuality. (HIV/AIDS is, in my opinion, so cruel because it uses these very human experiences to spread.)
But, there is nothing in Harry's past to suggest he is gay or bi, and what his preferences are behind closed doors are not relevant to his life other than among bigoted people and as long as he does not break the law or is abusive.
Basically, I was saying that I live in a society where being gay or bi is not scandalous or unusual and a public figure would not try to hide it beyond normal privacy. I live in a society where 'being outed' as gay or bi could not be used as a threat for blackmail. Some of our most prominent public figures are gay and it is not a big deal nor something they try to hide.
However, I do understand that those who have different experiences might find this idea relevant and interesting to explore.
I certainly had my tin hat on in imagining how they met at Soho House in Toronto and then hooked up in Soho House in London! But, that tin hat theory is plausible and maybe the tin hat theory that Harry is gay or bi or likes group sex is also plausible! Just not to me.
I’ve too have read that The Tig was not her work or creation so we shouldn’t be surprised at any other ghostwritten or otherwise letters, emails etc.
I could add if she had a cold heart (it appears very much that she does), maybe this is why she can’t write heartfelt letters nor lovely-dovey texts to a boyfriend (Harry). So disingenuous if that’s the case.
For everyone else, Harry's sexuality is no bar to his working as a senior royal nor becoming King. Historically we've already had many gay / bi Kings.
In 2020 it would he celebrated as progressive for him to out his sexuality if he wasn't hetero.
The Church may frown upon sexuality in various ways as a moral issue, but i'm not aware of any specific teachings that would bar him from his job plus it would become a scandal if they barred or influenced a barrier to him based upon his sexuality. It would go very badly for them.
Ireland had an openly gay Prime Minister from 2015-20 and that's a country that still minds the Pope's pronouncements.
"According to international lawyers, crowned heads such as Queen Elizabeth do get a special kind of status when traveling abroad. It's not diplomatic immunity, but rather sovereign immunity". Harry is not a crowned head, let alone Megsy.
@Acquitaine Thanks for the company name. I remember reading of them many moons ago.
@Raspberry Ruffle I agree with you completely. If true it is highly disingenuous. I have no problem with ghostwriters in a professional setting. I just draw the line at employing them for personal letters, texts, etc... For me, it would be a dealbreaker and a serious breach of trust.
I must admit I was smiling when I was replying to your comment! I found it amusing to have to write to a Puds regarding Pantsface, with a Raspberry Ruffle thrown in! Poor Fairy! My humble apologies to your most fabulous cat! :oD
The Fight Over Frogmore Cottage.
What does if matter if Frogmore, which many here INSISTED was never remodeled much less lived in, was taken away from them? They don’t live in England any more and have established themselves in a residence in Montecito
Oh, the overlying story is coming into alignment with the true state of things....we care here but IRL, not much interest...
Thanks for confirming and providing the details I had forgotten.
Promoting herself through IG was a business for Megsy. I would also say it would be prudent to outsource a self promotional IG account. Would save one from one too many Tig-inspired posts!
Her IG account did not reveal the 'real' Meghan but an image of her that she cared enough about to pay a company to manage it for her.
Exactly. The concern is not If Harry is gay or bi, we have no evidence that he is and if he is, fine. would anyone care? Let him live his life as he wishes for his happiness.
The concern is if he has been manipulated, blackmailed in some way due to this, or some other private matter, propelled into giving up his life or into living a life he didn’t want. Thus his misery, thus unfairness to him. If MA and MM are involved in something like this it is wrong. If they make him fear walking away, being open, choosing his own path, that is terrible too. If he is lumbered with MA via being set up, in addition to MM, also wrong. If they word salad him into terror and shame, also awful. No one should be subject to this. But he would not be the first person tricked bus drink or drugs and then blackmailed for being what he is — or what he isn’t.
As Wild Boar Battle-maid spoke of possibilities of marriage fraud, this might be part of it, one way or another. The Quora info was not titillating, to my mind, it was profoundly sad. If true, perhaps it is also a locked door finally swinging open so H can escape.
We don’t know.
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The interesting part to me is that it suggests again that she may not have enough creativity and content production experience to pull off creating something for Netflix, certainly not generating a viable multiprogram package or a series. She can hire people, as she continues to do for letters, PR, etc but that eats into the profits, which is why the top or richest show runners and movie directors are big on generating their own original content as they start out.
Sure, hire people to smooth it out or contribute bits, but farming everything out? An established producer can do that, not someone at her lower level. She can hire (or use) newbies cheaply, but expect uneven quality. And still she is paying out. From what cash pot?
She is likely burning cash in every direction and so, pop the corn.
I’ve found the link below....
Playboy who tried to blackmail Royal Family for £50,000 over gay sex scandal killed himself with drug cocktail...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4654838/amp/Playboy-tried-blackmailing-Royal-Family-died.html
I’m positive if Harry was blackmailed I’m sure it would have been dealt with. There was a BlindGossip piece a while back about the shenanigans that went on during Harry’s Las Vegas trip and how everything was swiftly dealt with. Can we really believe that Megsy and pals could pull one over on all of the royal families security etc., and get away with it?
The Sad(sack) Saga of Hapless, Formerly Known as Prince is a case in point why one should never give into blackmailers. Far better to take one's medicine and get it over with--release whatever shameful information is the source of the blackmail oneself and take the consequences. Trying to stave off insatiable blackmailers who lack honor to keep their word anyway is a recipe for a living hell without end. I think Haz has had ample time to learn this, to his detriment. The truth sets you free, Harry. Not in terms of there not being perhaps painful consequences to honesty, but you would have a peace of mind about being honest that dodging, hiding, lying and covering up is never going to give.
Is Harry bisexual? I wouldn't have thought so, given his infamous penchant for casual hookups with many women over the years. But we don't know what actually went on . . maybe just drug parties and a helpful cover: Hazza the rakish swordsman with the lassies, bird in every port . . certainly not gay! Women may have even been paid to 'date' Harry for all we know. The relationship with Chelsy began in secondary school, where they were friends before they were partners. They certainly looked cosy in some of those old pictures. Maybe she represented a safe haven for him if he wasn't sure about himself in this regard. They were both very young when they were a couple. The relatively brief relationship with Cressida Bonas, which I knew very little about, smacked of a potential showmance with mutual benefits. It could only boost a rising starlet's profile to be seen dating a Prince, and Harry got to squire around a gorgeous actress/model to quell any potential rumors about himself.
If H. were gay (I am agnostic on this possibility), this would be the most accepting time in history to be so. Harry could have modernized the Royals from the inside as the first openly gay royal in the house of Windsor, and lent a lot of support to the community. No grasping bunt required. But perhaps that would have been just a tad 'too' modern for the royal house as it's currently configured. I think HM and Philip, both in their 90s, would have struggled to cope with a vocally out grandson. Perhaps not personally, but in his capacity as a representative of the very traditional institution he is a part of. Charles is quite progressive, for a Royal. Now that William has his heirs and the succession is assured, Harry needn't have pursued a traditional family life just for the optics. But Charles is going to be a controversial enough monarch on his own demerits--the divorce from Diana, her death; some of his other out of the mainstream views--to cope with another revelation of this magnitude. Though, considering the damage which Meg has done to the Firm and to Charles' reputation, would Harry's presenting a male partner to the family and world have been so bad?
The other huge factor for Harry would have been his military associations. Admitting to liaisons with men wouldn't have fitted so well with the Hero Harry image, even though we all know that they go on. Gay service members certainly exist and serve with distinction--but this may have been *Harry's* thinking, and why he'd be vulnerable to blackmail. He is, as we have found out, obsessed with his image and also about as deep as a hangnail on the inside. If H. is gay, he'd successfully managed to hide it for 20 years, and wasn't keen to be outed by the Soho House bunch.
Shortly after the wedding, William released a statement in conjunction with a LBGTQ+ awareness initiative where he said that he would wholeheartedly love and support his children if they are gay. It was in the context of an official engagement, but I find the way he personalized his remarks like that to be quite bold, and possibly--a coded message to his brother? It is of tantamount importance to the Crown that George at least take a wife and reproduce, so William is probably hoping that this would be a theoretical scenario in his family. But I think that qualifies as the first Royal statement to be so intimate on the matter.
If Harry was compelled/coerced into going through with the wedding due to pressure/blackmail for *any* reason, and it can be proved, then the marriage is nullified. Marriage is a legal contract and both parties to a contract are required to be sober, of sound mind and not acting under compulsion. Harry would have to be able to prove it now, of course. If he were, and this marriage could be annulled, I think that's the only way he can ever hope to rebuild any sort of life in the UK. He would get sympathy then, if all of his extraordinarily divisive behavior can be proved to have been mind control over a very vulnerable psyche. He'd have to be willing to seek help, though and he seems determined to go down in flames rather than speak the truth about what has led him to this sad pass.
As for 'Archie' meeting the qualifications to become King of Great Britain through his CoE baptism . . I kinda think that's a moot point. Harry is a baptized member of the CoE; that's not in dispute. I don't think they take roll as a prerequisite for continued good standing. The stickiness over Charles ascending as a divorced man was a huge part of the reason he dallied so long in marrying Camilla. They did not want to seem overhasty in disrespecting Diana's memory, but 8 years was plenty enough time. I believe the Queen put it to him that it was past time to put a ring on it. If being a church member or Defender of the Faith was based solely on impeccable moral behavior, there's not a sovereign in history who'd have been able to pass. Except possibly, the current one. I don't believe those rumors of an affair with Lord Porchy. But even ER is human. Surely she throws shade with relish and has been, at best an inattentive mother. We all have our faults. Some people have more than a usual amount . . Smeg.
on the one hand it was a total waste for HM to give/allow the Harkles Frogmore, it meant evicting the existing residents, a 2 million + pound remodel to their specifications and they never bothered to live there more than maybe.a few months?
in a way its also a huge slap to E & hubby because they get sloppy MM/Soho designed seconds.
E wasn’t ‘worthy’ enough to get any nice residence from HM.
But I’m assuming HM really doesn’t feel that way and would never consciously disrepect her granddaughter, and it was all for the firm.
HM owns the resisdence and only allowed the Harkles to live there and remodel it. sadly E is stuck with the cheap floating floors, white rugs and whatever else MM installed. maybe she can cover them up or replace them. and it is asham for that remodel to go to waste , so it makes sense... and HM is nothing but sensible.
supposedly it’s remaining the Harkles official UK resisdence, but somehow, i doubt it, next time JCMH steps foot in the UK will probably be for a sad occasion (that MM views as a happy occasion), and he’ll stay at a palace.
(I look around, and over at Charles, and on to Montecito.)
....yes. So far, yes.
Note the initials for such a place of residence - HMP - the usual abbreviation for `Her Majesty's Prison' as in HMP Winchester and HMP Strangeways.
It's a euphemism if ever there was one!
Now blackmail, drugs, fraudulent/ forced/ coerced marriages, obtaining money or employment under false pretences, to say nothing of coercive control, perjury, secret recording and money laundering, all fall, I believe, under the Criminal Law, even if sodomy is no longer on the statute book.
Then there's treason.
The trial, with full reporting, could give us entertainment for weeks, months even. Those individuals who had wriggled out of jury service and missed their opportunity to be there would regret it for ever.
Small wonder she doesn't want to return to the UK. I don't know what chance we have of extraditing her but it would be intensely ironic if her next court appearance were at the Old Bailey, in the dock.
I wonder if we could get hold of Markus and Doria as well, to try their part in all this, as Harry Markle speculated near the very beginning of all this. She was commenting on a photo at that notorious Invictus Games where the camera caught them together; HM remarked that they looked as if they were together in the dock at the Central Criminal Court (aka Old Bailey).
Better still, if she were to end up in an ordinary jail with common criminals.
She could try the insanity defence, if successful in demonstrating her madness, in which case it would be a `Special Hospital'.
I daresay she would argue that she was entitled to special arrangements - no small shared cell for her (I can't imagine anyone wanting to share with her) - `Slopping out? OMG!!!'
She'd want a luxury apartment in the Tower, as a Royal. Too bad, they're all accommodation for Yeoman Warders these days. Remember a wing of a house in Australia was not good enough for her? She wanted the lot.
There used to be somewhere she might have liked , at first - `Holloway Castle' a Gothicke fantasy on a hillside - HMP Holloway - but that closed in 2016.
Lengthy incarceration (under an indeterminate sentence) would be sweet, sweet, justice. Not so much `revenge best served cold' as a statement of the continued power of the State exercised under the Law by the judicial system.
Oh well, we can but dream.
I think that offer for her to leave was 37 million American dollars. The reason for the last minute flurry, joke of a cake and oddness at the signing of the register (photo taken, Will declining to sign). Or so the story goes. Perhaps they should have offered the money to Harry to slip the noose and let come what may! I agree he seems complicit now, albeit in a “Tanya” Hearst sort of way.
Hikari,
Agreed, it would seem like it would have to be something much more. I can’t imagine Harry being vilified if he came out. It is probably a sum of something not a problem in itself, and something he was drugged or manipulated into being part of ——- or something terrible that never happened but he was tricked into thinking it did. Video or photo manipulation. At this point he seems bitterly resigned to being with his blackmailers. He is in a dark place with some very bad sorts, who I think feel keeping him away from family and friends keeps him locked in the hell of their gaslighting, just where they want him to be.
I always think of him in that Invictus Games photo, surrounded by Doria, MM and MA, and I think that was the moment he should have run.
I hope everyone is doing well.
on the one hand it was a total waste for HM to give/allow the Harkles Frogmore, it meant evicting the existing residents, a 2 million + pound remodel to their specifications and they never bothered to live there more than maybe.a few months?
in a way its also a huge slap to E & hubby because they get sloppy MM/Soho designed seconds.
E wasn’t ‘worthy’ enough to get any nice residence from HM.
It is my understanding that Frogmore Cottage had been unoccupied for a number of years before the renovations got underway. Apparently the flooring and wiring in that very old listed building was deemed unsafe. Based on the few photos that we were shown over and over again, of the sad and overgrown back garden or the view of the chimneys from across the field, the house had slid into a sad state of disrepair. Harry Markle had obtained photostats of the planning permissions dated December 2018, but it's unclear if there were earlier ones or that work had been going on for some time. Considering the extent of the renovations and the fact that the house needed roofing and other exterior work in addition to the interior stuff, the window from December to April when the Harkles ostensibly moved in doesn't seem to have been sufficient. Unless it was an incredibly mild winter in Windsor, it would seem like the weather would have delayed a lot of the structural work, not to mention the Christmas-New Years' holidays. And yet, the legend goes that everything was hunky dory for an expectant Meghan to while away the last 8 or 10 weeks of her 'pregnancy' taking the air in the back garden with Doria, her new nest all furnished to her specifications. They would bolt for the hills of Canada when Little Blighter was only four months old, so IF they ever darkened the doors of FroggCott, they didn't stay more than a few months, despite it being such a celebrity mecca and all.
There may have been a super-injunction with the press about publishing anything to do with the reno work or Harkle sightings on the property, but with a public footpath running through the back and it being extremely close to a public road, the main public road . .how is it that nary a single cell phone snap of this magical house ever made it out of Windsor? 2 years on, we still haven't a clue what FroggyCott looks like now. Secrecy over a potentially non-existent baby, I understand. But why such secrecy over a house which categorically exists and is visible to most of the residents of Windsor if they have a mind to go look?
Eugenie and Jack do reside in a Crown property and have since their marriage--Ivy Cottage at Kensington Palace. It sounds charming, but they are ready for something larger with the baby coming in the New Year. Kensington is home to other non-working members of the Royal family, but Eugenie having been given the use of Ivy Cott actually sounds like a mark of favor to me. Beatrice comes before Eugenie in the pecking order, and she and her new husband are apparently officially still at Royal Lodge with her parents (though Royal Lodge is also a Crown property.)
The whole saga of Frogmore Cottage is a bit of bad juju, so I'm kind of surprised that Eugenie wanted it, particularly if Meg EVER lived there. Considering how beastly Meg has always been to the York girls and Eugenie in particular, I wouldn't have thought being seen to accept a 'Smeg' castoff would have been appealing. If it's been beautifully restored AND Smeagol never actually lived in it, that would change things. Let's hope any nouveau Soho House crap is gone and Eugenie can add her own personal touches. Perhaps repainting the walls from a vegan gray is the first order of business. Gray for a newborn's room . . triste majeure. Babies need to see color for their eyes to develop properly. I'm sure E. will choose something cheerier.
supposedly it’s remaining the Harkles official UK resisdence, but somehow, i doubt it, next time JCMH steps foot in the UK will probably be for a sad occasion (that MM views as a happy occasion), and he’ll stay at a palace.
I think this very public announcement that the Brooksbanks are taking over FC has put paid to the ongoing PR that it was still Harry's official UK address. Apparently there is some kind of little outbuilding . . a tiny studio flat, sort of a hut really, that is on the grounds of the cottage. I don't think it is considered one of the 5 original flats. It would be a real wheeze if HM told Harry he could keep the hut as his 'official UK address'. After all, it's not like he's actually going to be living there. If he renounces his Counselor of State position, he doesn't have to have a UK address. As far as I can tell, the Counsellors (currently Philip, Charles, William and Harry) are tapped by the monarch for duties at her discretion when she will be away or indisposed. Hence, we see Charles and William passing out investitures, etc. As it is impossible to imagine Harry ever being trusted with any of the monarch's duties from now until hell freezes over, he may as well give it up. It does not affect his place in the succession, but is mostly just a custom. His place would pass to Beatrice as the next in line who is over 21.
Despite Charles's clashes with Andrew over demoting the York girls for a 'streamlined monarchy', Chas may be reconsidering the value which Eugenie and Jack add to the Firm. Eugenie is very active with charities on her own initiative, and she and Beatrice both have patronages, though they are not officially working members. With the defection of the Sussexes, the Firm is in need of some younger faces to help with the charity work. The Wessexes and Anne are already plenty busy, as are the Cambs, and Wills and Kate have additional duties too as they prepare to take over the Prince and Princess of Wales roles. Eugenie and Bea, and Lady Louise, when she gets a bit older, would be great fits for some of the smaller organizations. If Chas was willing to let Mugsy spend a million pounds on clothes in one year, it seems really parsimonious to deny blood royals a small stipend for helping out. The York girls should not continue to be penalized for the behavior of their parents . . it's very unfair. Charles needs some positivity right now. If he was seen to reinstate Andrew's girls to even a part-time role, I think it would go down well with the people . . and several organizations who are short a Royal patron. Harry and Meg did barely anything in their tenure as 'working royals' . .lots of shopping and holidays via private jet but very little 'work', and that with bad graces. The York girls could do a lot more even on a sporadic basis.
I read this too, I believe it was a BlindGossip piece. I’m sure Charles could have afforded it if offered to her. There is absolute no basis or proof in it. Hmm...if we go down this route with a tin hat on, maybe it wasn’t about money or just about money, maybe it was about a platform . The royal family are on the worlds stage, there’s no bigger platform. No amount of money could buy that and that’s why she said no. Megsy nearing 40 and unlikely to get the acting parts she was getting needed something far bigger. I’d never heard of her or Suits before she met Harry....
I second your motion about allowing the York girls into the working royal fold. They show a true aptitude for it, especially Eugenie. And your point about Charles throwing millions at useless MM for wardrobe and travel and ultimately betrayal— yes she is his son’s wife, but he should by now open his eyes to the steady proven value of the York princesses. Agreed, it is not their fault their parents are what they are.
I keep feeling Charles will heed the advice of William, and that may be why Jack and Eugenie have Frogmore now, as a step toward bringing the girls into the young working royal fold to help out, while sealing Harry and M out. I think Frogmore was a message sent.
Perhaps they are just monitoring the depth of the remaining Eugenie-Harry connection, to coach them to avoid leaks back to the Sussexes.
Harry is a compromised individual who cannot be trusted in any governmental capacity. He has been kicked out due to his seedy associations.
Obviously, people knew this [limited brain capacity] about Harry and studied his weaknesses, invited him to their clubs, and the rest is history.
We've long suspected the tacky group of grifters targeted and infiltrated Harry's life using his vices and weaknesses.
All these revelations do is confirm the obvious.
Harry looked happy at the wedding and the 'birth' video because he is an idiot who accepted his choices and hoped for the best. The RF protected him his whole life and he had no reason to think they would stop doing so, picking up the pieces as they fell.
Unfortunately, marriage is an adult decision Harry was completely incapable of fulfilling in a productive way, without help and guardianship from others.
And here we are.
....yes. So far, yes.
Well there’s no way Harry paid for that house, so yes Charles. Maybe they got read the riot act and told to stay out of the UK. There are a few plausible reasons and the Duo’s money isn’t paying for their new life.
As to moving into MM’s old digs, I have two thoughts.
First, Eugenie seems to have a cheerier, more positive and pragmatic can-do attitude. I think she will look at the glass half-full, and see a bigger home than she has now, near parents and grandparents, and be ready to repaint and redecorate to her own tastes with her friends helping her pick out items. I think M’s phantom life there won’t matter to E, as she probably knows it didn’t happen. She and Jack know they are doing nicely and moving up, with a real baby to look forward to.
Second, I think Fergie tipped off the press about the cottage, and is happy to see the eviction-like removal of the scant possessions or housing rights of the woman who tried to outshine her daughter at her wedding, and public slap down of the weak disloyal ginger prince who let the grasping bunt do that to his cousin (with whom he is supposed to be so close) on her wedding day. Fergie will encourage a full on paint-over of the Harkles’ drab gray outdated tastes, after she and Andy dig through every inch looking for recording devices, letters, salacious tidbits to sell on to the media. The Harkles are in for it.
The article went into great detail about months long discussions behind the scenes around various properties that were though to be good fit, but no definitive decision on the part of anyone at the Palace ahead of the Harkles tour of AUS.
If you recall, the removal of the Harkles from KP and the royal foundation was made within the same announcement as the gift of Frogmore Cottage while the Harkles were in AUS on tour.
I remember a discussion on various royal forums likening the entire arrangement and announcement to a divorce where you wait for the ex to go away for a few days and change the locks, file the paperwork and send them a message telling them no need to come home because of the new changes. Exceptionally brutal to do it when they were on tour.
This impression was helped along by Richard's article which also gave Frogmore Cottage's history with the current family where he said that after it was vacated by staff in the 90s / early 00s it had been left vacant like many royal homes doted around the country and completely forgotten by everyone except for the royal household maintenance staff in charge of properties. I distinctly remember Richard saying he would be surprised if anyone in the family remembered or knew of it's existence such was it's abandonment.
Richard also said that the Crown property dept ( whatever they are called) had decided to renovate Frogmore cottage to bring it back upto date for staff and applied for planning permission for modest changes that didn't require huge structural change. This view was supported by the fact that the planning permission documents filed in July 2018 were still available online and open to the public. When the property was announced as the Harkles' new residence, a new planning permission application was filed in the same week that October 2018. The new application was publicly visible for about a week before it was taken private. That's how we found out that it was to be taken from the 5 flats back to single home residence that required extensive work.
Richard essentially confirmed a sudden coup against the Harkles executed whilst they were out of town and made it seem like the Harkles were caught unawares and given no choice.
I'm not surprised that Meghan looked like she was barely holding herself together at the Remembrance service which was a few days after their return.
Unsurprisingly the article has since been scrubbed from the DMonline archive, but it remains within the wayback machine archives and in royal forums that copied and pasted it.
I expect to see headlines like these soon:
* Eugenie finds “ absolutely untouched” Frogmore kitchen still plastic-wrapped, thrilled being first to cook in it for father-to-be Jack”
* Floors in Frogmore were still “rough, uneven totally unfinished” says star decorator as she creates whimsical nursery
* Deadly paint removed from Frogmore nursery walls; eucalyptus oil known to cause infant asthma
* ”Jammed, old, warped” Frogmore front doors replaced with handcrafted doors from Duchy
* Frogmore’s “nonexistent” yoga room doesn’t dismay mum-to-be Eugenie, who plans a baby playroom instead
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2020
Blind Item #8
"The alliterate one and her husband now want the husband's cousin to start paying $10K a month rent to the couple. Please."
Grab some popcorn and stay tuned !
Blind Item #8
"The alliterate one and her husband now want the husband's cousin to start paying $10K a month rent to the couple. Please."
Frogmore Cottage is owned by The Crown Estates, so the ghastly Duo can’t ask for rent on a property they don’t own.
zinza texasrose • 44 minutes ago • edited
They needed a place to live and wanted Windsor. The Queen said "b*tch, please" and offered Frogmore. Then they made a HUGE renovation paid with taxpayer money, but that was fine because back then they were "royal employees" and would pay it back representing the Queen in years to come.
The problem is, they decided they were out and public opinion in the UK went mad because of all the spent money with marriage and housing. So at some point they said they agreed to pay the renovation back in several parcels during a good amount of years. But apparently they are now trying to force Eugenie to do so.
I have to say, they are f*cking smart when the goal is to live a life free of responsibility.
I would not be surprised if they were actually asking for money.
"No matter what you believe about them, I have to say that this is a show which keeps on giving.
And just when you think the story has been exhausted - something else comes flying out of left field (a twist you never thought of).
Perhaps they could find a job with either the soaps or the telenovelas. Clearly they could add to the plots (for years to come)"
Agreed! I keep thinking, oh, give it up but I keep coming back here, or checking tumblr for the latest doings of the Duo.
Sometimes i am reminded of the fairy tale the Fisherman's Wife, where they lived in a squalid hut. Skip to the last line if you don't want to read my hunted and pecked on my phone version.
One day he caught a magic fish which begged to be released, and promised to grant his every wish when he did. He thanked the fish and asked for something minor.
When the fishwife heard of all this she demanded her husband keep going back to ask the magic fish for more and greater riches, higher honors and more exalted rank, each wish granted...until she demanded he to be made Queen of the Universe! At which point the fish said, Aw, go home, you'll find her in the hut, and swam away.
Moral: There is no pleasing some people.
She needs like 15-20MM a year.
I’m sure royals past and present have been subject to some form of blackmail and I only know of one more recent one that came to light.
I’ve found the link below....
Playboy who tried to blackmail Royal Family for £50,000 over gay sex scandal killed himself with drug cocktail...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4654838/amp/Playboy-tried-blackmailing-Royal-Family-died.html
I’m positive if Harry was blackmailed I’m sure it would have been dealt with. There was a BlindGossip piece a while back
Yes but in that case the royal went straight to his security officer and reported it. Would Harry?
Re the Quora references to Harry, gay sex, and threesomes, the "roasted chicken" reference from Meghan do sound like a threat to Harry right there in the interview. (If SwampMan asks what is for dinner, I shall never be able to reply "roast chicken!" again with a straight face.
Agreed! Both counts!
Yes but in that case the royal went straight to his security officer and reported it. Would Harry?
Well what reason would he have not to? Why would he just sit on it if something can be made to go away? Would you allow yourself to be blackmailed if it could be dealt with? If his RPO’s dealt with the Las Vegas shenanigans, I’m sure they’d deal with other messes (of all kinds). It would be naive to think otherwise.
Love your idea of them supplying crazy ideas to soaps or telenovelas. Since she humorless, though, they might have present her with a monthly list of “what if” questions and ask her to simply respond with whatever she would do in that situation, agony aunt style. I’ll wager her responses would be both appalling and hilarious, and fuel those shows for a decade.
Puds,
I think we all see a moth in a wig, veering ever closer to the burning bulb.
Prince Andrew didn't do anything illegal, his sexuality is his own business, and yet where is he today?
CDAN had a story within the last few years that one of his daughters had some school friends to stay (early teen girls) and when they were all in bed PA went to each one in turn to proposition them, each one turned him down but the last. Next morning all went home, lawsuits were threatened and much money paid in damages. This was after PA had made his reputation as Air Miles Andy and was another, reason PC was angry with him and wanted to trim him from the working royals for good.
Of course it was a blind but PA was given as the perp.
KC said re being blackmailed...
Yes but in that case the royal went straight to his security officer and reported it...
"Well what reason would he have not to? Why would he just sit on it if something can be made to go away? Would you allow yourself to be blackmailed if it could be dealt with? If his RPO’s dealt with the Las Vegas shenanigans, I’m sure they’d deal with other messes (of all kinds). It would be naive to think otherwise."
True but he can be naive. "If you fly you are ruining the planet" says the guy who just had four trips on private planes, etc. Maybe he thought he had an agreement with MM, not understanding that the cost of blackmail just goes up. "If I marry her, she will keep my secrets!" It depends on who would have told him, "i have this on you..." Sometimes people prefer to pay rather than be found out. Not the best choice as you rightly point out, and maybe he thought by keeping her alleged yachting secret he had something on her....
Also, he was at an age, 35, where lots of his peers have got families of their own while he was still a bachelor--william was enjoying marriage and kids and getting good publicity for it. I mean fun is fun but perhaps H was looking for respect as a family man. Dunno.
Billy then threatened to write a tell all book it is believed .
Prince Charles intervened and found Billy a grace and favour flat with a pension?
Rumour was Billy was paid off?
Maybe because PC had taken over Clarence House from.the QM.therby evicting Billy ?
Billy later died in mysterious circumstances put down to alcoholism?
Betrayed and banished: How jealous courtiers took vicious revenge on Backstairs Billy – the Queen Mother’s flamboyant favourite servant... but did they steal his little black book of Royal secrets
How jealous courtiers took vicious revenge on Queen Mother’s servant
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005715/Jealous-courtiers-took-vicious-revenge-Backstairs-Billy-Queen-Mothers-favourite-servant.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead
AnT said...
KC,
Love your idea of them supplying crazy ideas to soaps or telenovelas. Since she humorless, though, they might have present her with a monthly list of “what if” questions and ask her to simply respond with whatever she would do in that situation, agony aunt style. I’ll wager her responses would be both appalling and hilarious, and fuel those shows for a decade.
All the credit goes to abbyh, not me!
I do like your idea of her being the storyline agony aunt! Except--simply respond? It's not in her, i am afraid. Much word salad ensuing with emphatic hand gestures while the poor questioner tries to figure out what she is saying.
I heard the 90 million was for her to leave Harry during Megxit.
Frogmore Cottage is in the Queen‘s gift to give, and to take away and gift to someone else. What she is gifting is not the house itself, but the right to live there and pay but must be under market value for the privilege. For the Harkles to claim that the house is still theirs and Eugenie owes them 10 K a month for a home they have rejected, and a rental agreement they never honored, not to mention the 2,400,000 pounds that it’s very doubtful that they’ve actually repaid is just beyond egregious. They don’t own that home And are in no position whatsoever to call themselves Eugenie and Jack’s landlords. There is no such thing as a private deal between cousins when it’s not some purchased condo they’re talking about, but a venerable Crown property.
Harry is a bigger knobhead Than even I imagined If he knew zero about the cottage before the queen sent them there. He would have spent a great deal of time in Windsor growing up. I’ve never been there of course, but it doesn’t sound like a really large place, and Windsor Great Park Is the Royals playground. The Yorks have always lived at Royal Lodge, and granny is a Windsor Castle nearly every weekend. William and Harry learned to drive in the Park. Hapless spent six years at school just down the road at Eton. It would’ve been a staff building when he was a child, but it was not invisible. It’s right near the main road, and he must’ve passed by it 1000 times. How can he say he had no idea it existed? I’m sure he wasn’t inside it...But it’s directly across from the family cemetery. Surely he must’ve been by it before. Before it was demoted to staff housing, it had quite a storied history...A favorite retreat of Queen Charlotte, who had it built as a respite place for her and her ladies when she was visiting the royal green houses. Queen Victoria housed her Mushi there...And more recently, it was the house that Earl Mountbatten was born in, in 1900. So it’s relatively humble as it is for a royal residence, it has an important place in family history. Wouldn’t Charles perhaps have pointed out these facts to his sons on a family visit to Windsor? Things that make me go hmmm.
"FrenchieLiev said, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2020
Blind Item #8
"The alliterate one and her husband now want the husband's cousin to start paying $10K a month rent to the couple. Please."
"Frogmore Cottage is owned by The Crown Estates, so the ghastly Duo can’t ask for rent on a property they don’t own"
Ah, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't even think of trying!
That’s hysterical and original! Lol Well that’s that mystery solved, now we know why you use that name! ;o)
I remember the articles saying Harry would have to pay $22,000 a month, rent plus pay back from refurbishing. If he (alledgedly) has paid back the refurbishing, the rent perhaps is $10k a month?
Did anyone every read what the "normal" monthly rent would be for that place? Seems like i saw it somewhere and $10k sounds a lot higher than what i had read. H may be trying to turn a profit vs just being reimbursed. Eugenie is no fool and the family won't let her be taken advantage of.
Did anyone every read what the "normal" monthly rent would be for that place? Seems like i saw it somewhere and $10k sounds a lot higher than what i had read. H may be trying to turn a profit vs just being reimbursed. Eugenie is no fool and the family won't let her be taken advantage of.
Those drugs aren't buying themselves!
See the Megxit website statement, revelations in all the books about the Harkles this year.
ALL have revealed his stunning ignorance of everything about his family. I bet Meghan knows more about his ramily's history and protocol despite choosing to ignore or subvert it.
The loathsome Robert Lacey repeatedly makes the point that Harry handled everything badly because he had no grasp of his family history or protocols. Still blames the royals, but the point about Harry is also made.
It should therefore come as no surprise that he doesn't pay any attention to anything that doesn't directly impact his life.
Just like he claimed recently in his hostage videos that London has no diversity despite living in a city that is 42% black and Asian. There are no single race areas in London. Not even Chelsea or Kensington. Grenfell tower is in Kensington. You have to be wilfully blind to not notice that many black and Asian people in the city you reside in.
Frogmore Cottage was staff quarters during his time growing up. Why should he bother himself with knowing what ir where it is.
The same goes for all the royals as per Richard Kay's article. They have lots of properties with significant history, but tend to only pay attention to those they reside in and not much else. They don't care.
All the credit goes to abbyh, not me!
To be honest, I was thinking about a Keanu Reeves movie, Tune in Tomorrow (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100822/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_80) which is from a story, translated from Spanish, one of the plots was that the telenovela was so wild that it caught the imagination of the country (basically). (have not finished the movie or the book).
@Hikari, within days of FC being announced as the future home of Harry and Meghan, Richard Kay wrote an article saying it was both a fait accompli gift AND that Harry was unaware of it's existence until he was presented with it.
The article went into great detail about months long discussions behind the scenes around various properties that were thought to be good fit, but no definitive decision on the part of anyone at the Palace ahead of the Harkles tour of AUS.
If you recall, the removal of the Harkles from KP and the royal foundation was made within the same announcement as the gift of Frogmore Cottage while the Harkles were in AUS on tour.
I remember a discussion on various royal forums likening the entire arrangement and announcement to a divorce where you wait for the ex to go away for a few days and change the locks, file the paperwork and send them a message telling them no need to come home because of the new changes. Exceptionally brutal to do it when they were on tour.
My comment: This is how I remember the way the story progressed. Yet the current news states the decision to give FrogCott to the Harkles was made in April 2018 before they were married. This supposed April 2018 decision also does NOT align with the planning docs as I believe those filed in July 2018 were to upgrade but still maintain FrogCott as separate properties for staff housing. Why would they be changing this story around now? Does it have to do with the money spent on this property?
Richard also said that the Crown property dept ( whatever they are called) had decided to renovate Frogmore cottage to bring it back upto date for staff and applied for planning permission for modest changes that didn't require huge structural change. This view was supported by the fact that the planning permission documents filed in July 2018 were still available online and open to the public. When the property was announced as the Harkles' new residence, a new planning permission application was filed in the same week that October 2018. The new application was publicly visible for about a week before it was taken private. That's how we found out that it was to be taken from the 5 flats back to single home residence that required extensive work.
My Comment: Do you know of any site/anyone that has a copy of the Harkles' plans? If it was public for a week I hope someone somewhere grabbed a screenshot.
Richard essentially confirmed a sudden coup against the Harkles executed whilst they were out of town and made it seem like the Harkles were caught unawares and given no choice.
This is how I also interpreted it at the time. I saw it as William and the rest of the senior Royals wanting to distance themselves in every way possible from Markle. The impression was that Harry and Meghan were quickly shipped off after their behavior in Australia AND the beginning of the whole pregnancy performance.
The foundation was split, they were banished to FrogCott, and were told they could not have their own court but instead their staff was to answer to the Queen's agents.
I had thought H&M wanted the KP apartment next to the Cambridges after getting turned down over Windsor Castle.
Yet Markle and her PR has consistently painted this story as if THEY were the ones that left to raise Archie in a quieter location, and that it was the Harkles who wanted out of KP and away from William's controlling ways.
Unsurprisingly the article has since been scrubbed from the DMonline archive, but it remains within the wayback machine archives and in royal forums that copied and pasted it.
I'd like to try to locate this article on wayback. Do you remember any part of the headline?
I can't help you with that headline but the revised story that Frog Cott was given to them before the May wedding but not announced until mid-fall makes no sense.
For one thing, why did they sign a two year lease for a house in Cotwald before the wedding?
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a25831922/prince-harry-meghan-markles-cotswold-home/
I suppose one can never have too many country getaway homes?
On the heels of granny taking the cottage away, comes a resurgence of this tired old story about how Harry’s wife should have been entitled to Diana’s ring...But H, Ever the loving and kind brother sacrificed his treasure to make his brother happy.
I have always thought it odd that William did not choose the ring to begin with. At the time, he was only 15, and doubtless not thinking about marriage. His mother’s tank watch had happier associations for him. I am thinking that at the time, he may very well have hated that ring as a symbol of his parents’ failed marriage and his father’s lack of investment in it from the beginning. His attitude must have changed as years went by. If William was not thinking about marriage in 1997, how much less must 12-year-old Harry been thinking about it? His only comment about the ring seems to have been “I hated that ring because it hurt my hand.” Any discontent that he had swapped jewelry with William did not surface until Meg entered the scene.
Good point about the Cotswolds home.
Bearing in mind that Harry seems to filter all his memories of his mother through the psyche of the 12 year old he was when she died, ask yourself if Harry would really have said this to William in 2010: Wouldn’t it be fitting if she had Mummy’s ring? Then one day it will be sat in the throne of England.
That sounds like a line from a script For a costume drama about Henry the eighth starring Richard Burton...Not an original utterance from the mouth of the 26-year-old party prince.
A Nov.14 newscast states that officials have announced that Harry and Meghan will move to Frogmore cottage in early 2019.
https://abc7ny.com/society/royal-relocation-harry-meghan-to-move-to-the-suburbs/4755294/
If plans were already filed in October to make the cottage into a one family home, then this was done before or during the Australia tour.
I would think that given that HM is good at throwing subtle shade (that specific car for their wedding linked to her uncle, not the house but the cottage overlooking the grave and so on), perhaps they could work out something about the former quarters of Anne Boleyn if necessary?
Hilari - ...There may have been a super-injunction with the press about publishing anything to do with the reno work or Harkle sightings on the property, but with a public footpath running through the back and it being extremely close to a public road, the main public road . .how is it that nary a single cell phone snap of this magical house ever made it out of Windsor?
I thought there was something about how they changed the public access as it was deemed too close to the house and that it made a difference for or to the locals not allowed access to something they used (cannot remember what but I want to say it was like a gym or games or parking lot for this building). DM had an article with limited comments by the people impacted as they didn't want to really trash talk.
https://pagesix.com/2020/11/21/meghan-markles-pal-jessica-mulroney-was-suicidal-after-she-was-cancelled/
I would think at £10.000 per month, E&J could get a very nice place without the MM drama.
For some reason I was under the impression that the rent Royals pay is actually quite low compared to the common person.
I think if E&J do live there, they have been granted grace and favor by HM and will become working Royals (Eugenie has always been much better at the meet and greet than MeGain. Much, much better).
"For some reason I was under the impression that the rent Royals pay is actually quite low compared to the common person."
I think that was true but wasn't there a big hoopla about that? When taxpayer money was needed for BP maybe? Weren't questions asked about why grace and favor rents were absurdly low?
I share your general skepticism about this. I can't believe Eugenie would agree to move in and pay $10K a month to Harry without an official palace ok. While I can imagine Eugenie not having a negative feeling about Frog Cott (knowing the full history since its origin, the fact she grew up in Windsor) it's hard to believe she'd pay &10K as I doubt that's the rent charged to Harry. And even if she has a soft spot for him, I can't believe be anxious to line his California pockets. Nor can I believe she'd be looking forward to the possibility of ever having H&M as houseguests. Of course, she did let Harry film that stupid video with Ed Sheeran at her house at KP (when he still had his own place there.)
Up thread a fellow Nutty stated Omid Scobie wrote this on his twitter account. Just how believable and credible is he with information?!
No, it is not. It is Crown property.
Perhaps BP has a standard response when it comes to the Harkles?
This with Frogmore is all part of H/M's one year review. They were told that Frogmore has been reviewed, "That you must get your possessions out of there. We are so glad that you are established across the ocean and 6,000 miles away, that we will pay the shipping. Out of sight means out of mind"
"Furthermore, the Crown's one year review is in its last months. You have abused, misused your Royal titles and patronages. They are under review and headed for the chopping block after the New Years. Be advised that you have schemed and embarrassed us enough, therefore we have the best UK and Californian law firms who keep you two birds and your money grubbing commercial ventures under constant scrutiny."
It states Buckingham Palace said it could not comment on whether Princess Eugenie and her husband are going to be paying rent on the Crown Estate property - and if so, to whom - or how long the arrangement was due to last.
A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: ‘Frogmore Cottage is the private residence of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and as such any arrangements are a matter for them.’
These two parts contradict themselves, either the property is owned by the crown estates (which it is) and rent could be paid to them or not. The cottage can only be on loan because of the above so it can’t be a private (this to me indicates privately owned) residence of the Duo who can discuss who and can’t live there. It’s down to the Queen and Crown Estates.
I also don’t believe the duo paid any money back to the tax payer for the refurbishment etc. If any money was paid back it came via Charles.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8973931/Meghan-Harry-struck-deal-hand-Frogmore-without-knowledge-royals.html
Beatrice and Eugenie had an apartment at St James Palace and then Eugenie and Jack moved into the cottage at Kensington Palace. Supposedly Andrew paid the rent for them. Neither are working royals.
Grace and Favour homes on Crown property are for employees and I think now they are booted out when they retire. Working royals are treated like employees in this regard, but like non-working royals, can rent properties.
I think the only royals who do not rent, i.e. do in effect have Grace and Favour homes on Crown property, are the Queen and Prince Philip, the Cambridges, Prince Charles and Camilla. I think the Queen has been paying rent for her cousins, even though they are/were working royals .. the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke and Duchess of Kent, and Princess Alexander (her daughter rents a cottage on the Windsor Estate).
If this response is real it is 100% opaque and pro forma. A signal to Harkles that the Crown has nothing more to say, but by all means you and your Sunshine PR should elaborate and make yourselves look worse fools. The Crown spoke by its actions of eviction with Jack and Eugenie moving in. Why should the BRF say anymore?
You could be right about the standard response from BP regarding anything to do with the Duo. Throw them to the wolves each time and let them sort out their PR led lies.
This is a very sychophantic article in The Sun.
Why would Eugenie and Jack be so disrespectful at least and thumb their noses at rules at worst? (The article says they went behind the Queen's back and struck the deal with Harry in secret.)
Why would Eugenie and Jack 'share' a home with The Claw? Are they in financial dire straits?
Fab Four? One dinner does not a friendship make. Harry was close to his cousins so I believe that dinner could have happened, but I do not believe there is any kind of friendship with Meghan ... absolutely no evidence of this.
Megsy has her huge PR team on overdrive!
I said up thread that after the way Megsy tried to upstage Eugenie at her own wedding and Fergie was upset about it, can anyone truly believe they are even on talking terms with the ghastly duo?! PR nonsense strikes again.
I like your explanation and it makes sense.
@Raspberry Ruffle
The use of the word 'private' and the distance it creates seems to be a standard response.
The Harkles are in PR overdrive, desperate to hold onto an imaginary close royal connection.
Is Megsy going back to that strategy?
The first round brought people like us to places like this. How will we cope with the reset?
A poster at LSA came up with it.
Brilliant!
Infant baptism, otherwise known as `christening’, isn’t just a naming ceremony. To believers, it is a sacrament, `an outward visible sign of God’s invisible grace’, whereby a child is first admitted to membership of the Church. The godparents make promises that they will ensure the child is brought up as a Christian. (many Christians, btw, reject infant baptism )
For a child as young as `Archie’, I’d have thought it’s a matter of surrounding it with love and trying to teach it to behave lovingly and setting it a good example as it grows in understanding, until it’s old enough to understand.
That's a fail then?
Frankly though, I’m still pondering that christening:
Did they really drag the Archbishop away from York, down to Windsor, when he was at the General Synod?
By road? That’s about 215 miles each way, on a good day (between 3 & 4 hrs – in the dead of night I assume) on the M1, M25 & M4. Presumably, he'd have had a driver, so that's someone else being put to work.
By train? He’d have had to have changed a minimum of 3 times, up to 5 times; the shortest time is just under 4 hrs. It’s possible overnight, if he’d roused himself to change trains at least 3 times! It’s just about possible for him to have left York the evening before - if he’d been prepared to check in at a hotel at midnight.
See https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/YRK/WNC/281120/0730/dep#outwardJump
Added to which, it was a weekend – that means engineering work and the dreaded `bus replacement service’…and we weren’t told whether the service was in the morning or afternoon.
By air?-
On a commercial flight, he’d have had to have flown from Manchester (about 80 miles, about 90mins drive, plus needs to arrive an hour before take-off) the flight to Heathrow is about an hour.t leaves It’s then about 20 mins by taxi into Windsor.
Was a helicopter laid on? It could have landed in the Great Park but surely someone would have seen it and commented?
See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3676086/Prince-Andrew-spends-5-000-taxpayers-money-helicopter-journey.html
No consideration of carbon footprint?
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So I am sceptical that the Archbishop ever left York.
We know the group photo was a fake; the other one proved nothing.
As far as I know, Justin Welby hasn’t made any comment about the event, neither confirm nor deny.
Have we just been left to work it out for ourselves, with timetables? What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuW8TaAlBfg
For Fr Jack Hackett in Father Ted, the phrase "that would be an ecumenical matter" was a way of getting out of difficult conversations.
@Beard_Club
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`The Rise of Woko Moano'
It's not for those of nervous disposition (look away now if you are) but if what is said is true, it's as bad, or worse, than we imagined.
https://jerseydeanne.com/2020/04/22/oldie-but-goodie-from-lipstick-alley-meghan-markle/
I do remember that drama surrounding Frogmore Cottage and the split from the royal foundation that was quietly arranged during the Australia tour. That was a scant 5 months after the wedding. Little did we know, or the Royals either, how much worse things were going to get. Such a public chastisement of their conduct would have impelled other normal people with any capacity for shame to straighten up and fly right. But no. Something more egregious than a personality conflict with the abrasive M led to William giving the Harkles the boot from his Foundation. He was also instrumental in their removal from KP. For all of this to be undertaken within months of the wedding, things had to have been worse than anticipated, and it had to be manifestly clear that Meg wasn’t working out. But here we are, more than two years later and her PR is more invasive than ever...still taking potshots at William’s family from across thousands of miles.
If the sycophantic RRs have tweeted the official Palace statement correctly about FC being the Sussexes “private matter for them”, I can only think that there is some coded message here for the Hapless duo in regards to every palace statement about them reverting to the use of the word private and privacy. This is what they were after after all, when they fled the family, so they said. BP had said sometime ago that they will have absolutely no further comment on the Sussexes, and using “It’s a private matter; We have nothing further to say.” Is going to be there go to response. Not sure how FC can remain the Harkles’ private home when another couple are taking it over. The “gift” was rescinded when they refused to earn their keep as working members of the family and swanned off to North America. Sounds like Harry was offered the option to rent the Cottage as his permanent address, But that offer was withdrawn and FC reassigned when he failed to make good on the money outstanding from the taxpayers. He had an every sense abandoned that property.
Harry and Meg remind me of two monkeys with their hands stuck in jars. They chased after sparkly, more appealing looking jars in California, but at the same time are trying to keep their paws stuck into the jars they had in England. This greedy pair purposely sows confusion, and through Meg’s spun doctors, refuse to admit defeat. The cottage has been taken away. I doubt Harry will ever return to England. When his grandparents and his father pass on, maybe he’ll send a wreath, but I can’t imagine him having the courage to face his family and the nation. When he passes away himself, however long that is, perhaps the royal family would prefer he be buried in California as befits a traitor, and kept out of the family plot. The duke of Windsor is buried in France. Harry has trod down the same path.
It makes them look petty.
He’s buried at Frogmore, that’s why there was the running joke when they got the cottage. Because they weren’t that far from his grave.....he was the royal who left in disgrace and a not so subtle reminder to them.
So he is… I can’t imagine where I had read that he was buried in Paris. I dare say it was very sporting of the family to take him back in death, and gift proud of place on his grave stone to his not quite 11 months as King. His regnal name and the dates of his reign are the largest letters on the stone. It was even more sporting of the family to bury his Duchess next to him.
So I guess this means that no matter how debauched, lost, ungrateful and treacherous a Royal son is, he can be assured of a burial at Windsor. If Edward had remained on the throne, I assume he would’ve been entombed at Westminster Abbey with the other sovereigns.
Harry is not near the rank, though. Will he and his renegade Duchess have their final resting place among the Royal ancestors? That would be up to George most probably, unless Harry’s mode of life leads him to predeceasing his brother. Or, at the rate he’s going, Charles could outlive him.
I haven’t checked but it’s entirely possible that he died in Paris and the royal family had his body bought back.
Harry’s legacy isn’t concluded yet so it’s unclear how his niece and nephews will feel about him once he’s passed. As for Megsy, I’m not sure she’ll still be married to Harry so a few possible scenarios there.
When the Duke and Duchess of Windsor both died, Britain was of another era. I don’t even know whether the royal family will be a thing in the future, people aren’t particularly deferential and the last 2 years hasn’t been good for the royal family; the future of our royals isn’t clear and in transition all the time, even if it’s only subtle.
I agree completely with your main premise, that something *very* bad happened for William to take that action. I don't think that it was *just* a case of Meg not working out; I think that both of them were to blame for whatever precipitating event happened. It isn't *just* that Meghan is a venomous viper introduced into the royal family; it was that Harry enthusiastically embraced the venom and added his own to it.
I Imagine fiscal shenanigans over at the foundation, Where M and H tried to use Foundation monies for themselves, unauthorized. William spotted a grifter when he saw one, which is why it’s so weird that the Sussex‘s were made part of the partnership to begin with. Maggie is absolutely not to be trusted around money. I suppose William was facing a great deal of pressure from the palace For he and Kate to be seen as welcoming mentors to Harry’s fiancée/wife. It would’ve been less costly in the long run for Catherine to have taken Meg shopping, Considering the amount of mileage M has milked out of ostensibly being denied a ride to the shops one time.
After the Christmas invitation to Anmer Hall when Meg was engaged, there is no evidence of a personal, social contact between the couples. It has been said that William did not speak to his brother for six months after the wedding. The following July, during the infamous polo match with Doll, It was reported that the two brothers had a blazing row prior to taking the field. William has never trusted Meg and has been extremely wary of her where his family was concerned. Being neighbors at Kensington Palace must have been a trial. It’s very possible that Meg forced unwanted encounters on Kate and the kids. Did she stalk them around the grounds? Make menacing remarks? Mock the children? Stuff nasty letters under the door? Having them is next-door neighbors inside KP proper would’ve been out of the question, given the suspicion surrounding Meg regarding photography and surveillance devices. Then there were the tales of their extreme partying behavior Disturbing all the residents. Louis was just a baby at this time. It doesn’t seem that for most of her tenure as Duchess of Sussex, that Meg had many occupations for her time apart from scheming, plotting, and buying shit. I have no difficulty believing that she harassed Kate or attempted to and William absolutely wasn’t having it anymore.
You beat me to it regarding Wallis. She was a much better and dare I say classier woman than Megsy could ever be. I don’t think either of them will have earned respect to have the funeral even Wallis or Edward got. I’d rather the pair never set foot in Blighty again, they deserve no better.
"Then there were the tales of their extreme partying behavior Disturbing all the residents."
I've read the gossip but I'm not sure I buy that H&M were tossed from Nott Cott because they had noisy parties. KP itself looks like a fortress. And the announcement they would be leaving was made after she was supposedly pregnant. And as much as her friends talk, no one has ever claimed to have attended a "party" at Not Cott. Honestly, H&M rented the Cotwold house before they were married. I doubt they ever spent much time at Not Cott. That's one reason the 5 anonymous friends spent so much time describing the cozy atmosphere M created at Nott Cott. M knew people suspected they weren't really living there much. And everything said in the PEOPLE interview was said to counter specific rumors.
None of us know, of course, but I think it was money shenanigans. Hence the simultaneous splitting of financial ties at the time the residence relocation was announced.
You beat me to it regarding Wallis. She was a much better and dare I say classier woman than Megsy could ever be. I don’t think either of them will have earned respect to have the funeral even Wallis or Edward got. I’d rather the pair never set foot in Blighty again, they deserve no better.
Great Britain and your monarchy should never be plagued by the Disaster Duo again. Let them live in America for good. Let them live out their fates in Montecito/Los Angeles. I am an American and don't mind absorbing these fake artists. Keep them out of the cozy, comfy UK where everybody knows everyone. btw I lived/worked in London and Denmark way back when for six months so I have a feel for your situation/
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-5883#post-65213913
Yes, those interesting post by the Christopher guy could very well be a scam to make money. Supposedly you pose a question ... the more views and replies you have, the more money you earn.
Further to the layout, the French Ambassador's residence garden backs onto KP gardens nearest the Orangery. It's the first house along the shared private road.
My recollection of his comments was that he was describing fun party people who were very sociable in the garden loud enough for him to hear. I don't recall that he complaining about them per se.
Edit:
Google throws up several articles quoting him specifically - same information recycled by different outlets, but it quotes the Ambassador by name as opposed to 'sources'.
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a27627318/meghan-markle-prince-harry-kensington-palace-parties/
https://observer.com/2019/05/prince-harry-meghan-markle-kensington-palace-nottingham-cottage-big-parties/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/prince-harry-meghan-markle-party-all-night-former-neighbor-2019-5
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1131890/meghan-markle-news-latest-update-prince-harry-archie-harrison-kensington-palace
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9048514/meghan-markle-prince-harry-parties-baby/
"Yes, those interesting post by the Christopher guy could very well be a scam to make money. Supposedly you pose a question ... the more views and replies you have, the more money you earn."
True. The person asking the question will be compensated IF he/she is in the Partners Program. (Many people on Quora aren't in that program.) People who answer questions aren't compensated. That policy leads to alot of dumb questions being asked.
If Christopher Jones is profiting from his answers, he's using another account and name to post the Meghan questions he's answered. (His acct shows he's asked only 5 questions and only 1 was about M&H.) Having two accts isn't allowed but people do it, I'm sure. A few get caught and booted.
I'm not sure what Jones's motivation is but I am sure much of what he posts in his answers is factually wrong. (The Commonwealth voted Anne the next regent of the UK should one be needed, for example.)
Megsy needs to be in control, dominate, have all the attention. This is a woman who will fake a laugh and pretend to be part of a conversation when she is being ignored in public ... for the optics.
No way was she going to be part of a foundation where she was not in charge and not the star. And I think she was just not listening when Harry told her the rules, and then she manipulated him into defending her and throwing his entire life away when she was told she could not live in Windsor Castle, or even Frogmore House, and could definitely not have a separate court, and so on.
They were supposedly looking at many properties on Crown Estates (i.e. freebies), and fussy Megsy could not make up her mind so they were simply allocated Frogmore Cottage. It was scheduled for renovations so the thrifty Queen probably thought it was a good idea (and Megsy professed that Windsor was so special to her).
George was about a year when William and Kate moved out of Nottingham Cottage and into their apartment in KP, but I think Meghan was keen for them to set up their own court elsewhere and become unfettered royals stars as quickly as possible.
I don't think Harry was a misguided innocent in all of this. By the age of 33 one assumes a person has developed some maturity and strength of character, and he had certainly been taught about good manners by his parents, his schooling ... He said yes to the claw and has been sulking about the consequences since the marriage, or shortly thereafter.
There are a number things he’s got wrong. I know Catholic’s are now allowed to marry into the royal family without either having to convert to CoE or the royal marrying a Catholic having to remove themselves from the line of succession. However, I didn’t think that extended to direct heirs, e.g. Prince George. I haven’t checked but I’d like to know.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CH5l8xeF219/?utm_source=ig_embed
Thanks for the info. Since the French ambassador was quoted by name, it's probably true he said that, I guess. But I'm still personally doubtful that noise complaints were the reason they got booted, assuming they were booted. Knowing what we now know about M&H, there are much stronger reasons for Will wanting a total split than noise! (Or even for M forcing one.)
I also find it a bit odd the ambassador said he saw "friends and family" coming and going all night from M&H's home. What family? He was also complaining it was "boring" without them at KP. Are we sure he's not repped by a French Sunshine Sachs? And do people really have the fireworks shows all night in densely populated parts of London as he described? Even royals?
I'd read something at the time about 300,000 being taken from the fund by one or both of the Harkles, without authorization. There were only a few articles about it; talk of it was shut down quickly.
I worked in accounting, so this was something that caught my eye. It would have been a huge no-no, triggering a forensic audit. It's a big deal. It could trigger the whole fund being shut down. The last thing you need when fund raising for your charity is any hint of impropriety. Especially as royals.
They were supposedly looking at many properties on Crown Estates (i.e. freebies), and fussy Megsy could not make up her mind so they were simply allocated Frogmore Cottage.
Wasn't there some talk of the Netflix deal not being finalized yet because Megsy couldn't decide what she wanted to focus on? Same pattern as above?
but I think Meghan was keen for them to set up their own court elsewhere and become unfettered royals stars as quickly as possible.
I think that's true. She couldn't wait to get to the USA and set herself up as a star. Haha. Even without Covid-19 that wasn't going to happen. Covid-19 just delayed their failure becoming apparent. Slowed the fall.
She wants all the rewards without doing any of the work. So does H.
Look at his comment to Greta about all the free money just hanging around for the taking.
(Curry lunch: G&T/brandy & ginger ale; chicken or lamb curry with all the inauthentic accompaniments one could wish for; finally vanilla ice cream with chopped stem ginger in syrup - always the best bit! I have a very good memory for food!)
Well, the LA area seems to be a good place to settle for those that like the excitement of whether their demise will be from fire, mudslides, or earthquake.
Mel, yes...rumor in LA is they still haven’t signed the Netflix deal officially, and there is some level of anger about this within Netflix, of the feeling slapped in the face variety. There may be issues sooner than later if she spools this game out too long, ie she would lose her option and the deal would be written for Harry alone.
My client asked for something today for a personal use, and so I decided to ask about the cottage. Not the Sussexes to live in or rent out, per his info. They are already without standing. I guess we’ll see.
The French Ambassador was said to have complained about rowdiness, fireworks and intoxication, with a between-the-lines hint about other substances. Fireworks probably weren't restricted to sparklers and tuppeny squibs - they could have been serious Chinese mortar types that shook the neighbourhood but I'm only guessing. Presumably they gave themselves permission?
"The Fireworks Regulations 2004 (as amended) are designed to tackle the anti-social use of
fireworks... Under the 2004 Regulations, it is an offence to use fireworks after 11pm and before 7am without permission (except on permitted fireworks nights when the times are extended)..."
https://www.gov.uk/fireworks-the-law#:~:text=The%20law%20says%20you%20must,the%20cut%20off%20is%201am
Thanks! I was going by the quotes from the ambassador in the linked articles @Acquitaine posted today. Family was definitely mentioned and the ambassador said he was sorry to see H&M go because it was boring without them.
I'm surprised firework shows can be put on in a crowded city as long as it's before 11pm. Seems there could be fires and injuries from flaming particles.
The articles could have been a SS plant but the ambassdor's name was mentioned. And I wouldn't think H&M having all-night parties with fireworks would smear the RF! No matter who was there. (And I'm also not convinced they had so many friends to invite either.)
I also wonder whether the earlier posts (2016 from the `beards thread') had been `scrubbed' but then allowed to reappear, having been stored safely, `just in case'? I'd be very disappointed in our security services if they hadn't bothered to keep copies.
What else can we look forward to seeing if it's re-released?
Thanks for confirming what we thought about FC. Landlords hate sneaky subletting - it reeks of profiteering by the tenant at the owner's expense.
In the late 1960s, I lived in Islington, London N1, when the then-residents of one street celebrated Guy Fawkes night with a very large bonfire in the road; when the fire brigade arrived, they got stones chucked at them.
Islington has changed beyond recognition since then but attitudes to antisocial behaviour have not.
Just for info - the Duke of Windsor did die in Paris at his apartment.
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I think that's what happened with Archie, too, if there is a baby of which she has custody.
She dilly dallied so long that now no one is interested. Couldn't make up her mind how much she wanted for pics? Wouldn't compromise on price?
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Would be funny if NF signed with H alone. But he wouldn't dare do that.
She might actually see that deal slip out of her hands?
Indeed. My (very light) understanding is that the house is a property of the Crown Estate, the control of which was ceded to parliament then in the last ten years, the Sovereign Grant replaced the Civil List....so any lease funds are split between government and the sovereign grant, and there are administrators over it all. The sovereign can and did offer it to the Sussexes but it would seem the administration of the Crown Estate would need to approve if or sign off on changes of tenancy and “rent” proceeds would go to them, not the Sussexes.
Someone else here must know more than I do. I just wish to say, this sounds very much made up. So, a typical Sussex press bit!
Also, regarding the jerseydeanne tidbits, I should add don’t believe the Thomas or Clinton portions for a minute, they sound like the usual embroidery from pity-seeking and self-aggrandizing MM herself, but, you never know, I suppose,
See this comment on Knockoff Duchess (after the one on Lupo, the Cambridges' dog). https://monstermarkle.tumblr.com/
I wonder if MM will say one of their dogs has been injured or is sick?
You're right in saying that Harry wouldn't dare sign a NF deal alone but only because wifey wouldn't let him. She's the important one! (in her mind)
Many thanks for confirming. I suspected this was the case seeing this is the city where they lived.