Apologies to all for my absence - I am overwhelmed by work-related duties related to the US election.
Here's a fresh link, so you no longer need to wade through 1000+ comments.
Back later in the week, I hope!
- Nutty
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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They insisted on including things like my email which I do not recall every having given. This, in addition to address, dob which would make sense and then went on to say that I am not registered at the correct address.
I voted today without trouble at the location I have been voting at for like 20+ years.
No gift for Meghan from Beyoncé?
'They told me they were there for me': Ashley Banjo reveals he was 'grateful' for hour-long phone call from Prince Harry and Meghan Markle who offered their 'knowledge' amid Ofcom row
-Diversity's BLM-inspired routine garnered nearly 25,000 Ofcom complaints
-Amid the backlash Harry and Meghan reached out to Ashley with a phone call
-The Diversity star, 32, said he was 'grateful' to hear from the couple
-He said they imparted their 'knowledge' and said they were 'there to lean on'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8909115/Ashley-Banjo-grateful-hour-long-phone-call-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html
Excellent point. She literally marries a blood prince of the UK and still can't get an invite. That says something about her, or Harry's tarnished legacy.
People are getting together again. Whether or not it's advisable is another matter, but gatherings are happening and she'd be at one if she were invited. Remember the "everyone will take a Covid test before my birthday party?" Did that happen?
Hollywood did not know her/like her before she married Harry, and I doubt she is liked now. Look what the F (sorry) she has done William & Kate. That is not lost on true A-listers in Hollywood. And people with kids have to think that their treatment of their son is strange.
The "that pic of Harry was photoshopped" for the Time 100 event was just like the Archie photoshopped Christmas card. Remember the disastrous "Picture Kill" travesty with the red X over his poor face? The "William just didn't want to worry anyone about his Covid" sounds nothing like him and everything like the Sussex camp. They have a need to correct, point out, and explain that defies reason.
we assume Handbag knew about his brother's covid in real time and The Harkles sat on that nugget until needed. It is possible it was kept from them and just recently slipped out
This is probably most likely, because I can't for the life of me imagine Mugsy sitting on a tidbit that juicy for 6 months. If they weren't the leak, it leaves the question of how exactly this news of Will's Covid hit the papers after he'd successfully kept it quiet since April, considering the number of people that work for him and would have known that the Duke was not adhering to his normal schedule and having meals brought to him in a separate room. Seems like speculation would have arisen earlier. KP neither released a formal statement or did so indirectly by giving approval to a Telegraph piece. The Sun surely wouldn't be their choice to get the scoop. I don't suspect his doctors . . so, who? Do the Harkles still have a mole working for them within KP--one with smarts enough to keep his/her eyes open and mouth shut until the most opportune time to release the sandbag?
Where did Sara Latham land, or the other 'directors' of Sussex Royal? Didn't I read that one or two of them went back to work at BP? If so, they'd be the first suspected. William must be pissed, because this release does not feel intentional. Maybe now that it's out of the stables, he should do a Zoom PSA where he talks about his experience of illness as a PSA. He can acknowledge that he was too flippant about the virus in March, just before his father, and then himself came down with it. He has recovered, as many of his fellow Britons have not, but his words might give comfort to anyone currently battling the same kind of relatively mild case at home. That way, if the release of this information was intended as malicious, regardless of who it came from, William can turn it around to a positive.
Now the only caveat to this theory was excellently introduced by FrenchieLiv. If Meghan had known that long ago, she would have DEFINITELY wanted to push Harry forward as the leader while his father and brother were ill. That's in Meghan's narcisstic wheelhouse and I think it would be nearly impossible for her to avoid acting on that impulse.
I feel that of all the Royal Family relatives, Meghan despises William the most. William is the brother she wanted. William has the power and William didn't like or trust her from the start. She managed to schmooze Charles, the Queen, Prince Phillip, etc, but she could not break through William. I hope that William has sound protection around his family. I don't just mean physical protection (that too), but also people he can really trust. It would appear so if this news of his covid was only released 7 months later.
I agree that Mugsy hates the Cambridges . . .William because he will be King and he rejected her skanky a$$. And she hates Catherine because she herself can't be Catherine, and C. has Diana's sapphire ring. And the real, legitimate heirs. Even if Catherine had given her a lift to the shops that time, Mugsy would still hate her. This leak smells vindictive to me.
But . . .she's got a partner in crime. Harry appears to hate his brother even more, and had he not been already nursing this jealousy and hatred over 20 years, he wouldn't have been such easily pluckings for Mugsy. At no point has Harry said, 'No, this I cannot do' . . he is complicit in all her schemes. I always knew he was dumb but the depths of his hatred for his family is really astounding. I also think that if William were suddenly single, Mugsy would still make a play for him and drop her ginge like a hot potato.
William must have his moments when he wishes he were an only child. His reign is not going to be easy with the Sussex albatrosses to carry. Mugsy & Harry are incredibly stupid and short sighted. They should be trying to keep King William V to be on side and at least appear cooperative.
It's a Meghan leak. Also, if William suspected some other kind of leak, he likely would have had the Palace issue a statement in response. The fact that he doesn't, shows that maybe he isn't happy about the source of the leak.
Yes Harry is complicit. I'm sure William has moments where he just can't believe the bitterness and vitriol that is directed his way.
I don't remember ever seeing a Queen Elizabeth commerative doll but i have seen several such Diana dolls over the years.
The quote attributed to William in the wake of the Sandringham schism breaks my heart.
“I’ve put my arm around my brother all our lives and I can’t do that any more; we’re separate entities,” the Sunday Times reported.
William continued: “I’m sad about that. All we can do, and all I can do, is try and support them and hope that the time comes when we’re all singing from the same page. I want everyone to play on the same team.”
The only way Harry might be reconciled to his brother is if he divorces Meghan, comes back to England and grovels for forgiveness. Even if he did all that, I think the treachery has gone too deep to be forgiven or forgotten. He will never be reinstated to anything like his former role, or any of his appointments--the tide has turned too far against him. The best he can hope for is to not be permanently exiled from the UK. The problem of What To Do about Harry will be an ongoing one.
There was a man standing right behind her, appearing to issue instructions as to when to move, etc. He seemed to have an eagle eye on her at all times.
She had a very martyred look on her face. Knew she'd been taken down a peg. That man was taking his job very seriously. She wasn't going to get by with *any* wrong moves on his watch.
I think Puds was referring to the 'Fuzzy blue coat made out of dead Cookie Monsters'.
Meg has absolutely no idea how to dress her body. None. If I didn't know better, and just saw some of the pictures of her outfits, I might assume that she was legally blind. Like, literally, unable to see. Whatever she sees in her head when she looks in the mirror, it is not reflecting reality.
The color palette was sedate, but the fabric and details, so wrong. With the bulky bathrobe coat made of blue Muppet fur, she had a super-skinny patent leather belt that so obviously did not go with that coat. She looked like she'd fallen head first into a bag of Oxfam rejects and that's how they were assembled on her body. Never has so much money been spent for such a negative result as Meg's wardrobe.
While I am not from the UK, Charles is not the leader (yet) nor is Harry. QE is the leader. If both PC and the Duke of Cambridge died (which happily did not happen), and QE died before George reaches the age of majority in England, then I believe that Harry would serve as Regent until George becomes King. If Parliament thinks that Harry is not fit to serve as either King or Regent, I believe that they can remove him from the line of succession.
I got the impression that he was there to make sure she followed protocol and performed all the steps in the tribute properly, and to prevent her from "shining any lights" on herself! It really said a lot about Markle AND the RF's opinion of her, that it was decided she needed someone to lead her through the service prompting her to exhibit proper respectful behavior.
Regarding the news about Will having Covid in April...I wrote above that I didn't think the Harkles knew until we did, but I agree with @Musty that they may have found out months after and chose to leak the info now.
I just can't see Markle knowing something like that for 7 months and not dropping the news sooner. I also agree with @Frenchie that MM probably would have released some PR to push Harry's place in the line of succession around the time Will and Charles were actually ill.
The royal family had been together a number of times prior to C and W becoming ill. I can also believe that if "Hyperbolic Asserter Markle" had known from the start she would have arranged for some nasty press stories about a "super spreader" and/or the alarming possibility of the Queen and PP becoming ill.
"Whatever she sees in her head when she looks in the mirror, it is not reflecting reality."
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Quite. She thinks she's that sultry, alluring, sexy, irresistible woman. She also has a distorted perception of her character and personality, being so intelligent ('whip smart'), interesting etc., again only in her own mind.
As for "Never has so much money been spent for such a negative result as Meg's wardrobe", MM always reminds me of Dolly Parton's words ‘It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!’
Checking today for evidence of Markle PR regarding the William/Covid story I found a few articles...
This first one has a sensational title although the story doesn't seem to fit the headline!
Meghan Markle’s Royal Family theory ‘vindicated by Prince William’s coronavirus scare’
MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry have arguably been proved right in their theory about the Royal Family by the revelation that Prince William contracted coronavirus in April.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1355603/meghan-markle-news-prince-william-coronavirus-royal-family-theory-prince-harry-spt
The second one sounds like an angry clap-back at the Lacey story regarding the lying about Archie's delivery and birth.
Royal Family LIVE: Meghan Markle fans launch bitter attack on William - 'Double standard!'
MEGHAN MARKLE fans have launched a furious attack on Prince William, accusing him of "double standards" after the Duke of Cambridge kept his coronavirus diagnosis a secret.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1355398/Royal-family-news-meghan-markle-prince-william-coronavirus-queen-kate-middleton-prince
Both articles are from today and there are other stories in the Express that make me think Markle is angry and lashing out via her PR.
After finding these stories I'm doubling down on my idea that H&M didn't know that William had Covid in April until fairly recently.
IMO if the Harkles leaked the info then they only found out not long before we did. They then jumped on the chance to use it against the pregnancy lying story. If they knew earlier they would have used it much sooner for any number of other gripes they've had since April. I'm getting the impression the Harkles (Meghan) are angry and jealous that William got away with keeping this secret. She probably thinks that William was protected by staff and the RF while she claims that SHE wasn't.
Here's a good view of the dead Muppet coat with the weird bunching around her middle from the skinny belt. Apparently the coat has no fastenings and without a belt would have been flapping in the wind. I don't see a single button. For a winter coat, isn't that odd? Then it's still gapping open showing her black skirt underneath. The only thing I like about this is the color. If it were a well-cut and fitted coat in wool instead of whatever this fabric is, it would have been a win. As it is, it looks like a half-finished home sewing project.
The black wide-brimmed hat was from her first Remembrance Day in 2018. That was her copying Diana look. Not sure who the Muppet coat was copying. Her minder is the gray haired gentleman directly behind her right shoulder.
I have just noticed the epic side eye being given to Megs by the elderly veteran in the white beanie who can be seen two rows behind in the gap between people's shoulders. Everyone else is looking ahead or down; he looks like he's giving Meg the stink eye.
Meg and Harry got SOOO much protection from the RF and deference from the press until they bolted, it's ridiculous.
We and our sister communities spend hours scrutinizing every last little (unflattering) detail of Meg's grooming, wardrobe, quizzical behavior, spending and utterances. Some of the anti-Markle bloggers on Tumblr are savage, and unearth all the disturbing photos. So it's easy to forget that until they fled to North America . .maybe starting with the South Africa whinefest, the MSM coverage of Haz and Mess was quite favorable, fawning, even. Meg was hailed as a style icon, for God's sake. She was on lists as Best Dressed! That had to be shade disguised as adulation, didn't it? Maybe not--I see Anna Wintour, one of the fashionistas who sucked up to Meg the hardest is being forced out at Vogue.
The BRF protected Meghan like Teflon. All throughout the 10 months' worth of belly gymnastics, did we see one single MSM story puzzling over the bizarre antics of the Duchess's bump? No, we did not. I have yet to read a single piece in the MSM speculating that Meg used a surrogate and/or has no baby at all. All the Amateur hour Photoshop projects were splashed all over every publication and praised . . .special commemorative magazine issues devoted to Archie were published. Nobody forced Meg out onto the pavement post-partum to show off her baby . . possibly because nobody knew where to find her . .certainly not in a luxury labor and delivery suite at the Portland.
For two years, they let her bizarre antics go on and there was never any hint that the Duchess's mental health was unstable or anything of the sort. For the last year, she's needled them from North America and published all kinds of lies about members of the family, and still they refuse to say she's crazy as a s-thouse rat. No one has broken ranks over Archie, though they certainly know if they've ever seen Meg or Harry with a baby or just a series of dolls.
She has been protected beyond reason. She dragged Harry away to another continent and away from that protection--still pissed probably that she doesn't rate 24/7 Royal protection any more.
I think it's time to remove the super-injunctions and the dignified silence. Take away all that protection she says she's not getting now--let her REALLY be exposed and then she will know what not being protected anymore feels like.
She probably thinks that William was protected by staff and the RF while she claims that SHE wasn't.
Meg and Harry got SOOO much protection from the RF and deference from the press until they bolted, it's ridiculous.
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@Hikari
I see you quoted me although w/o my name - I'm not sure if you're addressing me and/or if you misunderstood my post and are angry with my comment?
I apologize if my post was misunderstood in any way. I absolutely agree that Meghan got much more than she deserved from the RF and I've been eagerly awaiting the "Release of the Kraken" since the beginning. Getting past any super injunctions that may be in place and finding out all the answers to our questions is really the only thing keeping me still interested in the story.
One of the points I was trying to make in my last post was that I believe Markle herself thinks she did NOT get protected by the RF. That doesn't mean she wasn't actually protected - but she has stated that she wasn't, and she has complained that she was unable to defend herself.
We all know that not only did the RF bend over backwards for her but that MM also hits back via her PR articles in the press.
She either doesn't understand how the RF works or she is so delusional she feels she is deserving of extra special treatment.
I sense that she's currently upset and jealous over the William/Covid story. I think she realizes that his staff (some of whom once worked for her) kept his very big secret for 7 months and she resents that loyalty.
Although we haven't seen her in a recent zoom, she has been very active with the PR articles. If you do a search on the Express website you'll find a few stories on top of the ones that I already linked that appear to be clap-back attempts at the RF.
Reaching out to the controversial BLM artist and the articles about the first royal to vote also seem like attempts to cause embarrassment for the Queen/RF - could that be more clap-back for not only the William situation but the lawsuit disaster? I have a feeling MM may be escalating.
It's worth a listen. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNs5HqafIE4
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I really truly hope that someone, somewhere, facilitates her complete fall from grace and exposes her for what she truly is. It's not the fall, it's the sudden stop at the bottom and if she lands in a crumpled heap, so much the better.
And to think that the announcement in Africa was orchestrated in order to meet a deadline over some changes that were being made in the UK court system! They had to file their case before a certain date (which was during their tour), in order to get the chance to have the suit tried in a more favorable environment.
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Heh. I thought that it was an apt substitution; I mentally substituted the "s" word for the "f" word.
https://twitter.com/JoCoCo20/status/1323692752425553920/photo/1
she photoshopped a baby's face onto one photo of Jessica Mulroney's baby for that second baby picture of Archie's, the one where you only see part of his face and of "Harry's hand".
Everything is identical except for the little one's face.
No worries, I am not angry at your post… On the contrary I was agreeing entirely. The RF has gone to ridiculous extremes to protect Markle, including sanitizing her shady past...Harry brought home a yacht girl Who had been married twice before, with some soft porn videos on her sheet, and gave her a huge royal wedding, made her Duchess and did everything in their power to bedazzle a turd. They tried to make her presentable princess material, and there’s still must be injunctions Relating to the pregnancy, Financial shenanigans, her blackmail and extortion tactics, and God knows what all. Even after all she’s put them through, the palace has not released what they know. Their objective is probably to get Harry out of her clutches before they do. I think they had better remove the gloves of noblesse oblige pretty soon unless they want to get stuck paying tens of millions of pounds to the Mail on Sunday. At some point they must realize that continuing to shield her is a fatal mistake and she’s not worth protecting at the expense of bringing themselves down.
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Lol! I typed the 'S' in subconsciously..it is more apropos.
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@Hikari
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In one of your posts, I apologise I do not recall which one, whereupon you mentioned that Handbag must indeed really despise/hate his brother. It would appear so, and it would also appear that he is a much better actor than SIAM, having disguised his true feelings for so many years. It may be that the Palace does not want to bring the hounds of hell upon The Odious Pair whilst Her Majesty is still upright and walking. Perhaps they deem that William will eventually sort The Odious Pair out at some point in the future. Chuckie certainly will not.
Dame Peggy Nisbet, the British dollmaker from I think the 1950s through the 1980s, made a Queen Elizabeth II doll in her Coronation gown. My grandmother had one standing under a little glass dome on a guest room dressing table. I remember it had a big velvet and gold crown.
I tend to think it is more likely a sloppy staffer leaked it. Somehow, modern lips don’t seem quite as tight as they were in the Queen’s younger days. I don’t think Harry or the wife are in any sort of loop anymore. I don’t know who the story benefits. William is still behind Charles, then there is George. Harry is extremely on the outs, far away, castoff land, and I am sure wheels would be in motion to shunt him even further aside before he could pack three gray shirts and hop a budget flight.
My thought: William doesn’t strike me as a limp whining sausage of a man. He is not going to want to emote as a sick poor baby after all his country has gone through, and the serious toll. If he is like my husband’s friend who had Covid in a miserable way two months ago, he would think it flat out unmanly and too effete and attention hogging to talk or complain; best to just “shut up and get through it, I am not a child or an elderly lady, if I have it, I have it,” etc.
William has flown lifesaving missions and seen a lot, has talked with NHS about tragedies, and may have felt his case was too mild and/or too well tended to discuss. My guess is he was not willing to be “me me me, oh my poor head.” He was not willing to have the public imagine him on the pillows in billowing nightshirt with golden goblets of tea handed to him by weeping maids. Men his age aren’t into drama (*cough* except Harry *cough*).
But in any case, even if he did choose to cover it for nefarious reasons of state, or to avoid worrying the public, that was a one-time situation involving extremely, extremely unusual pandemic circumstances.
The Harkle Baby Mystery on the other hand has been an endless lava flow of tricks and games, bumps and photoshop, dolls hanging from harnesses with plastic hand tied to her neck with a string, fake photos, baby models, invisibility and escape. From Eugenie’s wedding to Australia, Africa to Canada to LA, a baby unseen in the very country where live the taxpayers who pay for his dirty onesie. Two years.
Not even apples and oranges. An apple, and a hyena.
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It’s not the coat that shocks me. It’s her height in 4-5inch heels next to Harry! He is only 6’1”. She looks about 5’7” -8” with heels on next to him. She’s very short! I thought she was 5’6” + . My husband is 6’1” and when I put on heels, I am almost his height and I’m 5’7”.
I thought she told everyone she has mile long legs? Never noticed it before for some reason.
I thought she told everyone she has mile long legs? Never noticed it before for some reason
Yes we chortled over that a while back when her former agent, i believe it was, was quoted as saying M came to her one day and in all seriousness said I have legs that go on for forever and i want you to stress this feature in publicity for me from now on.
I remember one of the nutties saying, she is 5'4'! Which is as tall as the Queen, and people often say how "small" or "petite" or outright "short" Her Majesty is.
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Dame Peggy Nisbet, the British dollmaker from I think the 1950s through the 1980s, made a Queen Elizabeth II doll in her Coronation gown.
Aw,thanks! What a lovely memory. I had just never seen even a picture of such a doll or even a mention. Lots of pictures of the biscuit tins and mugsthough! You might expect to see one on the British Antiques Roadshow, i have seen several people with royal memorabilia collections of varying quality on there.
Was it because they were lying? Or are they just cateless and sloppy with details? Megsy said they had been dating for 18 months before they got engaged. That was not the truth. April 2016, Megsy was still with Cory. May 2016, Harry was in Toronto. Even if they met then, and not in June/July in London, as they said, it adds up to 17 months, not 18 months before the engagement, which happened before that interview.
By the way, another outtake of them fooling around like teenagers during that interview was a huge red flag for me. It was not appropriate behaviour.
Did all the lies become too much for Meghan by the time of the South African tour and so she ran away? Bleating about not being ok while on an official tour is inappropriate and unacceptable, no matter which country it is. It would have been just as bad if the country had been Canada.
Even so, with someone behind her a `prompt' she still couldn't stay on her `mark' and get it right - edged up to Harry and almost got got clouted when he saluted after planting his poppy.
Some actress, huh? Must have been a nightmare on stage.
Is this true?
The Queen has a large extended family. None of them have ever voted? None of her relative's partners ever vote?
Megsy is not a working royal, i.e. does not represent the Queen, is not a British citizen, and does not live in the UK. There is no reason why she cannot vote as she is constitutionally irrelevant. What is the problem is that she clings to a royal title and the royal connection and thus sends confusing messages to the ignorant, stupid and ill informed. I have always said that stripping her and Harry of titles would create controversy and feed their victim narrative, but now I wonder if it may not be necessary.
It is a long time since the Duke and Duchess of Windsor lived off their royal connection without any damage to the monarchy in the UK, but maybe that example is not relevant today.
Only time will tell.
That would be the greatest Markling to date!
The Letter Case ~ MM’s Desperate Tactics To Gain Control In 2021
What is astonishing about megs narcissism is that she insists on lying bald faced About things that are very easy to check and immediately disapprove. She most definitely did meet Harry in May 2016 at the Invictus dinner in Toronto, catered by her then boyfriend, Who is she essentially lived with full time despite retaining her apartment—chef Cory. Bet Cory feels like a mug for introducing them but he dodged a bullet. Cory’s specialty was chicken but she had pictures of his huge ass hamburger platters on her Tig blog enthusing about them. So much for being a vegan. Or there is the matter of her height and the mile long legs when she is at most 5’4”, maybe less. We have eyes.
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That would be the greatest Markling to date! "
I posted something similar before I went to sleep last night but don't see the comment now.
Biden might win after all the mail in votes are counted, but Markle obviously does not have the power that she thinks that she has.
On LSA, I saw again a clip from the engagement interview that was not included in the broadcast. Megsy is clasping Harry's hand with both hers and kneading it, and she has a very stressed look on her face.
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I saw that, too. H was looking curiously off camera at something. Finally Mm noticed whatever it was. She very nervously,anxiously draws a deep breath and with her hands pulls H's arm over into her lap and starts kneading it, effectively drawing his attention back to the interview.
For a split second she looked scared. Like she was afraid that he was suddenly going to tumble to some previously unknown truth and bolt. Very odd.
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He was not willing to have the public imagine him on the pillows in billowing nightshirt with golden goblets of tea handed to him by weeping maids"
LOL!
Has anyone seen this?
I don't know anything about Private Eye, so do not know why they would put out such a story (that William reached out to Harry to be involved in the Earthshot Prize, and Harry turned him down).
https://mobile.twitter.com/richardaeden?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
did anyone see this?
https://twitter.com/JoCoCo20/status/1323692752425553920/photo/1
she photoshopped a baby's face onto one photo of Jessica Mulroney's baby for that second baby picture of Archie's, the one where you only see part of his face and of "Harry's hand".
Everything is identical except for the little one's face.
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That is very very interesting, Girl. Why, I wonder would they need to do that?
The Harkles would shout " privacy" of course. But now there is proof they lied about Archie twice: the timing of the birth and the photoshopping.
Perhaps the big reveal will come in dribs and drabs.
A slow-motion Kraken, if you will.
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It's rather cheeky, often in trouble with the political classes, and genuinely scurrilous at times. Great fun too.
In one of your posts, I apologise I do not recall which one, whereupon you mentioned that Handbag must indeed really despise/hate his brother. It would appear so, and it would also appear that he is a much better actor than SIAM, having disguised his true feelings for so many years. It may be that the Palace does not want to bring the hounds of hell upon The Odious Pair whilst Her Majesty is still upright and walking. Perhaps they deem that William will eventually sort The Odious Pair out at some point in the future. Chuckie certainly will not.
I agree that it appears BP is going to play softball with the Odious Duo as long as Elizabeth and Philip live. Charles has been indulgent to them thus far, but once he becomes King, he may learn to stiffen his spine if they represent a real threat to the security of his reign. Having power transforms a person--Elizabeth herself has said that all the timidity and insecurity in herself she felt as a young Princess, with fear toward what the future was going to bring with the Crown largely evaporated once she was propelled to the throne, and she felt much more sure of her course. Having belief in your purpose in life eliminates a lot of the noise of self-doubt.
I don't think Charles will completely change his personality overnight, but with William's stature as a counselor for his father also elevated, he might find the strength to be more of a pililess sovereign than a pushover parent.
The most heartbreaking feature of this debacle to me is the revelation we have had about Harry's true character, or lack thereof. If his relationship with William had been as loving and tight over the last 20 years as we have been told it was, Meg could not have so easily come between them and pried Harry away from his family. Harry would not have gone all to pieces over a respected, loved elder brother telling him to take his time to be sure about his choice of bride. Someone more secure in his relationship and in himself would have seen the wisdom of that advice. Harry was already jealous and aggrieved and looking for 'slights', had been for years. In my opinion, he wasn't 'acting' like the loving brother at all, and his family were well aware behind closed doors what he was like. Harry's PR gloss did a fab job of selling him as the loving, loyal hero brother to the public, but I don't think Harry's escalating tantrums and general d*icheadedness toward him were any shock to William. He's had years of it. Decades. Harry's been a b*tth*le since he had single digits in his age. So sadly, I conclude that William has not had that close-knit sanctuary of his brother's support and love since they were little. Harry has always been who he's been--it's us who were hoodwinked by stellar image management and the silence of his family about his real, deep-seated emotional problems. As William trains to be King, he is alone as a son of Diana . . thank God for his wife. Like his great-grandfather, he will know the pain of having lost a treacherous brother to whom he had once been close as he takes over the Crown.
William will do what he has to to safeguard the monarchy, and hopefully he can help his father do the same if Charles starts to waver. Harry is a massive liability who can never again be trusted. Not sure that has sunk into the Ginger Dummy's thick skull yet.
May 2016 was a busy one for Megsie. In addition to meeting Harry at the Invictus dinner, catered by her unsuspecting live-in boyfriend, chef Cory, she also was featured in Best Health magazine as its contortionist covergirl that month. Here's a bunch of pictures showcasing Meg's dedication to yoga, and also, just how singularly she is put together. I've never quite seen proportions like this on such a petite frame.
The leading photo of her in yoga pose actually makes me a bit queasy to view. It looks quite painful. Obviously Meg wasn't lying about her yoga practice, but I marvel that a woman who's dedicated so many years to this discipline could at the same time be so very clumsy and uncoordinated when on official engagement. Why so stiff when dancing with kids? Or holding kids? It's like she can do the poses but yoga isn't really integrated into her daily life based on how she moves.
https://www.besthealthmag.ca/best-you/yoga/meghan-markle-the-beauty-of-balance/
Here's a quote from Meg's yoga teacher, also featured. (Meg's patented 'looking away from camera while hunched over and laughing with closed eyes is here, folks!)
I remember helping Meghan with some of her first inversions. They can be fun yet terrifying if you aren’t comfortable going upside down. I remember Meghan being quite timid yet coming into handstand anyway. Her ability to trust, feel fear and then move beyond it speaks volumes about her as a person.
'Timid'. I bet she didn't like that.
Her next big cover story came the next year in September 2017, when the October issue of Vanity Fair hit the stands. About three weeks after this mag came out, Harry was ambushed at the Invictus opening ceremonies, and eight weeks after *that* they were engaged. Interesting how extremely rapidly things moved in a couple of months.
Battered by the tabloids—to the point where her boyfriend, Prince Harry, issued a statement defending her—actress and activist Meghan Markle has largely ignored the media storm. And as Markle tells Vanity Fair about her bi-racial background, her romance, and her hit series, Suits, it seems that this 36-year-old American may be just the woman for Britain’s iconoclastic royal.
Battered by tabloids??? I had never heard her name until the engagement announcement, and didn't see that VF piece until then, either because I don't subscribe.
The editor Graydon Carter was fired after OK'ing that story. Claiming she was battered by the tabloids was an obvious lie. Among the first to be Markle'd on a public scale.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8913165/Meghan-Markles-political-activism-wont-end-election.html
Meghan Markle's political activism 'won't end after the US election' because she feels 'encouraging people to get involved' is 'important', her spokesperson has revealed.
The Duke, 36, and Duchess of Sussex, 39, have faced furious backlash over the last few months by weighing in on the US election - breaking with centuries-old tradition that calls for members of the Royal Family to remain politically neutral.
A spokesperson for the Sussexes said the comments were 'not time specific', telling Insider: 'Part of being an active member of society is to take part in the democratic process. So encouraging people to get involved in politics is something that is important.'
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Really, does anyone in the US care? She's a lightweight, has no political experience. It was her right to vote, of course, but she could have voted quietly without boring anybody. If she thinks she can make her mark on the political scene, she is seriously deluded. Time for the RF to tell her to put a sock in it.
Harry pretty much lost Invictus and Travalyst is stillborn, Netflix is losing audiences, all is left to him not to disappear into oblivion is political activism.
I remember Harry issuing the statement and I was like, "What? Who?" Because I didn't even know he was dating anyone. Perhaps they believe if they repeat this over and over again, people will fall for it.
There are stories of her walking up and down in front of the Daily Mail offices without anyone taking note of her. There are rumors she badgered the police in Canada to the point where they took turns dealing with her. There is also more evidence that she was calling the paps, not the other way around. She did a magazine interview about the relationship and hinted heavily at it on Instagram. That is not what you do if you are trying to keep something under wraps.
She behaves the same way in the USA, "reaching out" to everyone, gatecrashing (digitally now) events and feeding stories about how she's voting and not going away. Lucky us! Notable, accomplished, interesting people (even celebs) just don't behave this way. The pics of her at the freebie tents, posing and picking up swag, are revealing. That is the real her, along with the furious, jealous faces she showed when she was at the Jamaica wedding with Harry.
Lacey says Archie was born on May 5 at 5:29 am.
His birth certificate says May 6.
That is perjury and a big legal problem for Harry, if true. They may have to reveal more about this birth than they want to to put this to rest.
Its one thing to mislead the public for privacy concerns, but quite another to lie on a birth certificate.
Actually that my be why there were no drs signatures on the
announcement and the certificate looks sketchy. They were both faked for public consumption.
https://news.yahoo.com/prince-harry-meghan-markle-lied-163000893.html
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a27506227/royal-baby-archie-birth-certificate/
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo5/1-2/6
Or doesn't it exist?
Or is it a US one?
She is an attention-seeker who grabs any platform she can find to deliver over-acted word salad about her opinions, or what she thinks are woke opinions in the moment.
Political activists ACT to bring about change, and often, as in my country in the past, risk their lives and freedom to do so.
Why must there always be hyperbole with this woman?
Politics, not really.
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"We are here to discuss Meghan, Just Harry and what they are up to.
Politics, not really."
I don't understand. Harry and Markle are currently involving themselves in politics, so it seems on topic to discuss their involvement.
In chapter two, he writes:
“But Harry won the next round. On 8 May he had appeared with Meghan cradling the two-day-old Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor in the soaring and magnificent surroundings of St George’s Hall, Windsor, with the press pack excluded.
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Wherever it says 5 May is clearly a typo. You know these days it seems online articles no longer employ an editor...
I think Lacey talks about the privacy issues in the book, and when she actually had Archie. Does it say the 5th or the 6th?
If I'm not mistaken that is the basis for the "lies" articles. Of course, that could be based on times as well.
Would you mind checking? Thanks!
Not really. She's not even relevant in her state of California. The idea that somebody in, say, Georgia or Maine would GAF about what she says or does about anything is laughable. Most people would roll their eyes upon hearing her and say "Okay, Karen".
Lacey says Archie was born on May 5 at 5:29 am.
His birth certificate says May 6.
Maybe they'll just throw Lacey under the bus for this the way they're doing to Scobie now?
And I'm sure it will be Lacey who goes down. He will be "scobied" lol.
He kind of deserves it...sycophantic ass.
Yes, the confusion was that with the Cambridge children, the office showed the press the original birth certificates to photograph. For Louis, the birth certificate was typed, but the press were still shown the original to photograph as it has William's signature. (I assume they photographed them at the office instead of having photocopies made as you can see William's signature in ink.)
For Archie, the press were given a printed copy of the birth certificate, which was then signed (certified) by the Registrar of Births at the office. It did not have Harry's, or Meghan's, signature as the press were not shown that original copy.
I think the birth certificate is real, but the Sussexes refused to allow the press and public to see the original as had the Cambridges. They have different views on public service and different attitudes to being very richly supported by the people so that they can live in a luxurious bubble.
What I did discover is that birth certificates can be fraudulent. Supposedly almost a third of folks do not have their actual biological father named on the birth certificate. That fraud is easy to do and get away with. It is more difficult to lie about the mother, but not impossible. Harry did not have to provide any kind of documentation from a medical person, so the birth certificate has the information he, or Meghan, provided.
No one at the hospital ever confirmed anything about the birth and we only know it was Portland because that is what was on the birth certificate.
As someone on LSA said, they lie about and create secrecy about stuff that does not actually matter and that feeds gossip and speculation. In my opinion, they are both shallow, immature and full of their own self importance ... certainly not suitable for a life of high-profile public service.
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battle of brothers
Chapter 1:
“But 12 months later, almost to the day (19 May 2018 to 6 May 2019), here was the fruit of the blessed union about to arrive, a springtime baby to thrill its parents and to bring all the family back together again— especially those two Windsor brothers and their allegedly warring wives.”
I’ll add more as he references the date.
“But the Portland Hospital did its job efficiently and confidentially through the night of 5 May 2019. On the morning of 6 May , Meghan was duly delivered of her delayed but healthy son, weighing in at 7lbs 3oz. Baby Archie had arrived with the dawn at 5:26 a.m., allowing grandmother Doria and the happy couple to return to a Windsor with their precious cargo undetected. Their stratagem was bolstered by Buckingham Palace’s putting out a strangely misleading statement at 2 p.m. that day saying that the Duchess of Sussex was just going into labour— when she had, in fact, been delivered if her new son eight hours earlier.
Harry and Meghan had played fast and loose with both royal tradition and the truth, but for once they had successfully outwitted the hated press.
'The fruit of the blessed union?' 'A springtime baby to thrill its parents'?
For the love of God.
I hope you have a sick bag handy as you read and stock up on Gatorade before you get any further in. I can't believe that any publishing house would have published such overheated tripe in our day and age. Mills & Boon was not Mr Lacey's usual style when writing his 'historical scholarship', I presume?
Looks like Meg is ghostwriting this one too. The verbiage sounds suspiciously like Scobie did in the last go-round.
The whole Harkle show has me profoundly cynical and disillusioned--money really can and does buy anything in this world. Robert Lacey has Markle'd himself. I can't believe the ingratiating level of this garbage.
Thanks for taking one for the team. Looking forward (maybe) to hearing more.
Yes, Archie arrived *exactly* with the sun at the precise *second* of the sunrise that day. How very clever of Meghan to manage to time her delivery so perfectly! I wonder if she stood up in the stirrups and did a perfect warrior pose to salute the sun as soon as she dropped the kid into the world?
(Or, as the cynical like me tend to favor . . .having to invent a birth time for a child/event she didn't actually participate in herself, looking up the time of sunrise on her smartphone was quite plausible.)
I guess Grandma Doria was in the delivery room, too? Wonder if she knows that?
Their stratagem was bolstered by Buckingham Palace’s putting out a strangely misleading statement at 2 p.m. that day saying that the Duchess of Sussex was just going into labour— when she had, in fact, been delivered if her new son eight hours earlier.
I absolutely LURVE this one! Meg is now putting the blame for the cock-up over the birth announcement squarely at the feet of Buckingham Palace. BP misled the people, not her!!!
When in fact, it was Meg's own flunky, Sara Latham, who had to fall on the sword for an epic 'tech failure' never before seen in the history of Internet communications when the announcement of birth which she sent in a timely fashion (she said) somehow got lost to EVERYONE in the international press corps for 8 hours . . .except Sky News. Theirs went through fine. Buckingham Palace was as much in the dark as everyone else having been misled by MM about the entire pregnancy, so how could the Palace have *intentionally thwarted Meghan's honest intentions* with a false announcement?
No words.
Harry and Meghan had played fast and loose with both royal tradition and the truth, but for once they had successfully outwitted the hated press.
So, Meg is admitting playing fast and loose with the truth (ie, lying--right here in black and white). Is this why BP's statement was so 'strangely misleading', perhaps? LIESLIESLIESLIES . . She is the Queen of Lies!
There are certainly reasons for the lateness, both in Archie's arrival and the timing of the official announcement, but they weren't natural gestational reasons or an evil plot by Buckingham Palace. She is never going to stop.
Thanks!
I believe I owe you some insulin!
That is truly purple prose right there!
Here we have a couple who are in -and chose to embrace- a high-profile government regulated Firm, The Monarchy, while pretending that they were completely unaware of the press/Rota involved with their positions.
Running from the press boogieman, hiding facts, shielding a baby.
The story they try to sell just wreaks of supreme stupidity.
If they didn't want to do all that, then they were free to go get regular jobs and a terraced house somewhere.
1.Harry's declaration in her defence while calling paparazzi herself for publicity
2."Family she never had" - what an insult to both her mom and dad. Lies about when she actually met Harry to hide the fact she had been living with someone else while dating him
3.Wedding invitations to celebs she had never met vs inviting family from both sides
4.Tiaragate, vielgate and "what Meghan wants Meghan gets"
5.Absolute catastrophe of the joint engagement with the Queen, where she violated protocol several times
6.Dressing disasters, most notable Oscar de la Renta calling off the pic of dress she worn and the label attached to the red dress
7.Massive overspending on wardrobe, well above her position in the royal family
8.Multiple protocol violations during the visit to Morocco which led to the comment "She is repugnant" from Morocco media
9.Staff exodus due to bad treatment
10.Idiotic pictures with Vogue editor both wearing ridiculous toy hats she had been advised against
11.Telling lies about her Vogue project and plagiarising a book cover for it
12.Messages to sex workers on bananas (this one takes a cherry!)
13. Gatecrushing British fashion awards ceremony (that was a true cringe)
14.Private flights while preaching on ecofriendliness
15.Frogmore cottage bruhaha and open feud with Kate
16.New York baby shower
17.The Sun story about using drugs as wedding favours
18.Parading herself during Serena's tennis match despite being asked not to
19.Wimbledon "do not take my pic" catastrophe (they guy took his own pic, not hers!)
20.Rude behaviour towards the Queen
21.Eugenie's wedding selfish pregnancy announcement
22.The Lion King catastrophe
23.Neglecting her royal official patronages while pushing her own agenda
24.Inappropriate dress during the mosque visit in Africa
25.Disastrous "killed" Christmas photo
26. The Lettergate and People attack on her own father
27. Attempts to silence the media coverage of her inappropriate behaviour and selective use of journalists to her own advantage, which didn't work
28.Insulting attempts to monetise the monarchy
29.Scandalous misuse of Canadian hospitality
30.And an absolute top of hypocrisy and selfishness, the "nobodyaskedifiamok" teary tantrum
during the Africa official visit. That one is just mindboggling.
All these PR disasters except a couple happened within a year and a half of which she was "working" may be a third of the time. That is quite an achievement even for a sociopathic narcissist, folks.
On this background Archie birth show is just a drop in the ocean. The woman is a walking PR catastrophe.
Has BP spoken to him? William?
What he's doing doesn't make sense, if he is trying to achieve any professional goals. He's already famous. He doesn't need to be on Zoom everyday. He would be far more effective with Adele's discretionary approach to work.
Meghan really really cheapens his brand.
Well, it's posted on LSA and they are right - it is very odd
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-5757
Post # 172683 by District Ten What is H looking at? And why does M seem so freaked out?
That is one damning list Fairy.
I wonder if the Queen had that list in front of her when she "suggested" some "time off" about this time last year.
One step before the townfolk-with-pitchforks came calling to Toad Hall.
Thank you.
I couldn't believe my own compilation, seems too much and yet it all happened. She was an absolute disaster for the royal family's reputation right from the onset.
Thank you. I am sure you remember other things I missed, we have discussed it so many times here.
Just horrible to see something like this happening to the institution based on propriety and tradition, isn't it?
ALL her tics were going there, weren't they?
As for the LSA video, Harry looks to be listening to an aide and responds. Meghan looks like she is having a panic attack. What a high strung person.
I think she knows she's trying to get away with the con of her life to keep Harry. Harry is so calm it's like he still has no idea it's not just Meghan has nerves around press. It's that she is trying to act the entire thing out and clearly cannot handle the pressure.
Another idiotic move from Markle.
This has me wondering, what is something that we think Harry will NOT give up for Meghan. Everyone has their limits. What are Harry's?
Every single official copy birth certificate that the RGO (Registrar General's Office) has ever issued for both my family history research and my application for Letters of Administration (a Court requirement if I was to wind up the estate of a recently deceased, intestate relative) up to 2020, has borne a Stamp of Authenticity, with Royal Coat of Arms, in the bottom righthand corner. This shows up in photocopies.
If anyone is still convinced that this is a genuine BC, would you please explain to me why this stamp is missing from what we have been shown?
The only explanation I can find is that there is no stamp in cases of gender reassignment or, more likely here, adoption. In either case, it can represent the date when a person became a new legal entity, having previously existed under another name, having been borne by another woman in the UK.
Have we any evidence that the BBC is telling the truth?
I mentally put a text balloon reading "GET ORF ME!!" over Harrys head so often......
She is literally wringing someone else's hand. I have never seen that before.
I like the LSA comment that Harry is looking for the exit"
Presumably Archie.
If there is an Archie. And he is Harrys.
Those grey shirts?
He has given up everything: home, family, country, honor, reputation, career, self-esteem, trust fund, patronages, respect
All he has left is his dog and those grey shirts
Sorry for opening up that can of wriggling things Battle Maid
I'd throw in few more from the Oz tour..although we didn't really see all of them for ourselves: banana bread, flying tea, security flight from the market where women had waited all day, wearing a hat to arrive in Fuji in violation of local customs, laughing at the Mosquito Dance in Tonga...
And I'd include making women sit on the floor in dresses in South Africa to give them trademarked gifts that had been given to Archie.
It should be a certified copy of the original registry, shouldn't it? So it should bear a certification stamp. Just like a marriage certificate is a certified copy of the entry into the Registry of marriages and bears the certification stamp.
I am pretty sure the document that doesn't bear the stamp is not a certified copy of the original entry into the registry.
LOL at the Queen of Lies! or the Duchess of Deceit!
Lacey's motives are so perplexing, aren't they? He unfairly shaded William in his version of this "battle" and hasn't really offered anything of note to assist Megxiteers regarding the Harkles' scheming - until this pregnancy and birth story!
However, we may find that Lacey worded the story of the birth deception sympathetically with phrases like "outwitting the hated press". It may have been the tabloids/press who had the guts to call it "lying" when discussing the book.
It doesn't matter though, as we also have all the original conflicting details of the story in the previous articles written at the time. I linked a few of them in an earlier post and they are an amusing reminder of how crazy that whole period was.
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Markle's relentless PR continues in the Daily Express. Here is the latest example:
Meghan Markle felt British people didn't understand her while she was in England – expert
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1355970/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-megxit-royal-family-news-wallis-simpson
Well done! How could I forget making women sit on the floor in Africa! We had several comments at the time saying it is very much against the local tradition where people sit on the floor during funerals, plus women would be wearing their best to meet a royal, and forcing them to sit on the floor had been extremely rude.
A huge faux pas.
Love your List!
May I add to it?😁
-Inappropriate behavior at royal events - hanging all over Harry, laughing at man falling from horse and Tonga boy's mosquito song, leaving Fiji market early, talking during anthem etc
-used Oceania tour to "shine the light" on herself (speech at Invictus, belly cupping, etc)
-using her royal platform for dangerous and divisive political spewing in the US/attempts to use platform to interfere with election
-bizarre obsessive bellycupping and coat flicking through-out "pregnancy"
-choice of child's name
-isolated Harry from family and friends, and sucked the life completely out of Hazza so that he no longer resembles the person he once was.
-possibly releases info to hurt members of the RF - (Rose story/recent blind about abuse)
Re: Lacey
I can't imagine anyone still thinking of Markle as their ticket to the big time. She has a record of ghosting people once they are of no more use to her, and she doesn't exactly have much to offer. How can she help anyone else achieve his goals when she can't even achieve any of her own?
It seems like a tad OVERemphasizing the existence of her BABY, with the constant repetition. Now, WHY would she feel the need to do that, I wonder . . .
putting it back on the tray. Rude is an understatement.
- sending day old flowers to children that are in hospital
- giving uneaten cakes/sweets to children whilst on the Oceania tour after she had had
her tea
- smirking whilst in Ireland when visiting the Potato Famine statues in Dublin
I apologise if these have already been listed.
This is dripping with the smugness of having won a stupid prize for playing a stupid game. (I mean the game of Meghan vs. The Media.) Assuming she actually did give birth that morning and was able to do it in complete secrecy, the press had already been "outwitted." The 2 p.m. e-mail about her going into labor was completely unnecessary.
But here I am, thinking like a reasonable person who is (for all her flaws) capable of empathy for others. In her little narc mind, of course the press deserved to be lied to, jerked around, and made fools of. Even at the expense of the truth and one's personal integrity.
Thanks for typing that out, @Tatty!
Amazing list, almost unbelievable. Thank you so much for composing it. Brilliant summation of the lunacy thus far.
(And people wonder why we are fascinated, laughing, appalled!)
I add my compliments to those of the other Nutties. That's a great list!
Great work complii g the list and also other contributors least we forget..
Remember "I'm feeling very pregnant today when meeting retired actors at the Royal Variety retirement home
Also 'Have you travelled far today?'
'https://youtu.be/1x4XdOTgFSY
smirking whilst in Ireland when visiting the Potato Famine statues in Dublin
I think we can also add:
**Wearing Ulster colors while in the Republic of Ireland (Huge, awful diplomatic faux pas!)
**Multiple crimes against decency for poorly fitted or absent undergarments.
**Going around like a sexpot **in church**
**Massive deodorant failure
**Eyelash glue disasters
**Brazen disregard for security measures or directives of Royal Protection Officers
**Inappropriate laughter at personal injury of others
**Dropping f-bombs while in a Royal carriage
**Public intoxication at a public sporting event
**Abandoning a 'breastfeeding' (Sure Jan) infant in favor of flashing a friend's husband while masquerading as a 'Royal Duchess'
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If I had that many, I'd never remember their names and have to use the Roman method of referring to them by their numerical order of birth.
I really think Lacey & others need to watch it with the "hated press" mantra because I think it is going to come back to haunt them. They dumped gasoline on the fire with each manifesto, and the press has actually shown great restraint (or a legal restraint) by not printing more. Kate was pictured TOPLESS but the Cambridges still don't "hate the press" or remind them of it at every turn. How many times did H&M taunt them with "there will be zero engagement" snipes?
Recently I saw an old Daily Mail article from when H&M were in Fiji. ALL of the comments were very complimentary and the story was full of praise. ONE commenter said something rude and everyone basically told him to F off. The comments were full of people saying they couldn't wait for the baby to be born, in MARCH. Pretty damn weird he was born in May!?
Great list! May I add:
- the cringe making engagement interview where she was giggling like a 13vyearbold schoolgirl. She was also distinctly underwhelmed by the ring
- sticking her tongue out coming out of church that Christmas
- walking to church to a wedding with a few buttons undone, showing her bra
- going to Trooping the Colour with her neckline lowered to show her shoulders
- walking around at official events with clothes tags on display
- nearly getting in a car before the Queen
There must be quite a few more...
Goodness, I completely forgotten her sticking out her tongue after the church! That was a WTF moment for me.
With your and everybody else's contribution the list of her PR disasters must we approaching a hundred. All within the shortest working royal career in history!
-Discussion of abortion referendum in Ireland
-Grandiose articles about the Queen making a cake, parties being thrown for her, MET ball/ Oscar invitations
-Couch surfing for months (at at least one sketchy connection's)
-Offending a sitting president (now now)
-The entire "who is going to pay for our security?" mess
-The Sussex Royal Megxit drop and "they dont own the word Royal"
-10 minute warning to PC on lawsuits
- Animal negligence on both their parts (ghosted dog, broken kegs, and spurs on polo pony)
-Ze Wigs! Ze wigs!
-Inflicting Scobie on the world
-Making Catherine cry
-Inviting people to "the outside" of their wedding and telling them to bring their own food and water. Later rescinded.
- Did they want the homeless moved for the wedding?
- Showing her ladyparts to Serenas husband at Serenas match
Oh My God. I forgot the abortion referendum in Ireland she tried to push for.
How could the Queen let this train wreck go that far??
We know for certain now that one/other/both date(s) of birth is/are fraudulent!
Sally1975 quotes `Meghan Markle felt British people didn't understand her while she was in England – expert'
On the contrary, many of us understand her only too well.
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Did anyone mention using a visit to a shrine for a murdered girl all about her and her merching activities?
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had the child been called archy would that have made her the alleycat mehitabel?
Not really curtseying before HM after the wedding (looked more like a toe stub than a curtsey)
-Elbowing man out of the way at Hamilton
-Knocking chairs aside to get to aisle ahead of Sophie and Edward at Commonwealth service
-Showing up uninvited to Investiture Ceremony and at the 50th anniversary of Investiture for Charles
- either laughing at Harry or declaring she was bored at Charles's garden party a few days after the wedding and being kicked out.
- laughing at an old man who fell off his horse (Trooping the Colour)
- taking forbidden photos of KP/ trying to take sneaky photos of the Cambridge children
It would quicker and easier to write a list of what she did well.
I agree - She certainly goes in for a great deal of yowling and caterwauling!
Any ideas about what she actually did well list? I couldn't
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1) social climbed
2) travelled
I don't know if that stuff counts, though, since most everyone travels and makes it to their destination and Royals are typically upperclass. Commoners might see it as an achievement and/or aspirational. The class shift could have made for a lovely story about her, if she had been authentic about it (but as we know, she sold Harry the narrative that she was already Mega Famous in America *look at all my paid-for-press* and *humanitarian work*, while actually achieving her _inflated_ status via the non-family, ex-husbands and boyfriends). Oh Harry. Sigh.
That's how I would have made my $$$ on the come up in the Royal family. Too late, now Megs!
What did Meghan do well?
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Tossed salad?
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a) having her RPO's tell people not to take her picture, including the poor guy who didn't even know she was there and was just trying to take a selfie
b) clearing several rows of seats around her, so throwing spectators who had paid for their seats out of those seats
c) showing up in jeans and a hat, even though she had been told explicitly (according to BG) that they were inappropriate for Wimbledon
d) not congratulating or even greeting any of the British tennis players, even though she was a member of the British royal family.
* MD shouting (at a Duchess no less) at the polo when she was looking in the car
* The strange deleted messages on KP twitter re the labour and surrogacy
* The deranged visit to the polo with Archie where no one appeared to speak to her
* Dangling Archie
* Varying bump sizes
*no picture, message, pr about Father's Day this year. Why not?
*closest thing to a Mother's Day pr release was the disastrous "Duck, Rabbit"
*zero first birthday pictures (even though "smash cake" pr release)
*no first time parents EVER missed a chance to brag about their baby's Halloween costume (what? no picture trick-or-treating all the famous people--with proper social distancing? or just "aw how cute our little pumpkin")
*only picture of Harry holding baby (if Girl with Hat is right about photoshopped picture) is the pompom hat in Canada picture; possibly fuzzy pub shot holding a carrier but can't see a baby
* Only picture (after christening) of both with baby is Christmas card; or questionable pub shot
*only pictures of MeMe holding Archie (after christening) are polo (is it or isn't it a doll), possibly getting off Aunt Elton's private jet, SA tour (does that baby even know her?); and of course "dead frog Archie" in a carrier that she is not wearing correctly and no way in hades would a kid that weight wouldn't pull said carrier off her
*but there is a picture of Archie with Doria........
Re: birth certificate. UK surrogacy has up to 42 days to finalize adoption with a new birth certificate issued that shows adoptee parents as birth parents. It was speculated if baby born in late march/early April that would explain the late May birth and for 42 days to get a BC.
EARLINE of Dumbarton. I’ve never met a smart Earline! ( Or even an attractive Earline, for that matter! ) lol 😜
My top two theories:
If Archie doesn't exist, then BP (or KP?) is paying the parents of the Duck, Rabbit rent-a-baby more to keep him away from Meghan than Meghan can afford to match. And even she knows that it's much too late in the game to try to hire another lookalike baby and pass him off as the same one.
If Archie does exist, then she is inexplicably still waiting for a media outlet to pay for exclusive photos or video. Barring that, she might love to whip him out at another occasion that will flip the bird to the BRF and the people of the UK. I imagine she was envisioning Joe Biden's victory party . . . but then again, I have the US elections on the brain and am struggling to come up with something more creative.
Oh, wait. My brain came up with something . . . If that Christmas "soiree" with the Fosters actually takes place, then she might leak a photo of the three generations bonding around a piano: Archie, Harry and surrogate father David. But with Archie's face obscured somehow.
I just watched a short feature that Vice did on Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her own show. The pain was evident on her face as she talked about having her life's work taken from her and knowing that long-time friends whom she trusted (some of whose careers she had launched) helped others to cancel her.
"The worst thing they could have possibly done to me was to fire me from my own show and let other people write my life story."
It made me wish someone from Vice cared enough to ask Thomas Markle how his life has been since his daughter's wedding.
But of course, Meg is superior to the queen of England in every conceivable way.
https://youtu.be/mxobyKJYIHI
Or IS he?
Let us now observe a moment of silence for the blue coat of slain Muppets worn by HERSELF 1 year ago. RIP.
Thank you for the link. I was hoping it would be Eugenie. Nobody did it better IMHO!
https://europesroyals.tumblr.com/post/116335666216/royals-curtsybow-to-royals-as-requested-by
IIRC, Miss M didnt even WATCH the British players.
She was there to solidify her connection to Serena.
And maybe to watch herself on the Jumbotron.
And she has the nerve to complain about her treatment in the press!
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@Fairy
Also, that ridiculous manifesto to the press announcing they would not work with xxxxx media outlets.
And proceed to work with them daily in her PR blitzkrieg.
We did get THE Manifesto, didnt we?
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And @Ron
I would like to know
-The real story of the surrogacy
-Who are Archies Godparents?
-Whose house in Canada were they couchsurfing in, and why did he let them?
-Why did Tyler Perry let them stay at his place?
-Who is really paying for their security?
-Who really paid for the renovations to Froggy Cottage?
-Who the h+ll is Marcus Anderson and what is he to MM?
-What really happened to make Catherine cry?
-Which celebrities did MM invite to the wedding who declined because they had never met her?(Reese Witherspoon is one)
-What, exactly, is their relationship with Oprah?
-Who is paying for the PR Blitz?
-How did PH get the RF to agree to the wedding?
Questions I have:
Why did Meghan and Trevor breakup, what did Meghan say that upset her best friend and led to the end of the friendship (I think it was that he hit her and no one believed her because they knew Trevor ala Heard and Depp)?
When did she and Cory break up?
What did she think of the cottage Harry lived in at Kensington Palace?
How much money did she think Harry really had?
Was it a shock to learn she was wrong about everything?
Did she spend a majority of her Royal time in the UK or elsewhere?
Everything to do with Archie and/or the Story of Archie. How did they reason this?
Why didn’t she like Harry’s friends?
How much does she spend on her American team, PR, and influencer keep (hair makeup admin)?
Is Harry ever embarrassed by this Nuevo-Rich lifestyle she loves?(New money)
Where is their real address?
What is the Netflix agreement?
The real truth about the ‘Serena’ friendship?
And the best question of all, from Andy Cohen of Bravo- Did you know before your engagement you weren’t going to stick around the RF? (Because of the obvious answer that explains all their behaviors)
And do you read Nuttys blog?
In answer to your last question: how could the RF say no? Harry is, after all, a full blood British Prince. He's an a$$hole but still family. At 35 years old the Queen really can't say no. Theoretically he's an adult. I think the big wedding was expected of someone in his station (I always thought Charles pushed for it) and he was happy to try to outshine his brother (not even close).
As to how to get to agree? R card. Pure and simple.
Great questions, Jessica
I especially like the last two, and the question about Harry being embarrassed at their Nuevo Riche lifestyle!
If he isnt, he should be
He HAS to be embarrassed! No question. He’s from the upper class so knows how to handle it- with curious silence (like the LSA video above, aloof). I don’t think he feels embarrassed for himself, though!
This is a completely different topic, but I read this quote and immediately thought of Meghan’s interpretation of activism, social media, and ‘human tech’ :
The quote is from Melania Trump: .@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism - It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.
-not journalism, activism (anonymous sources)
Interesting how Meghan paints herself as an activist and how in her head activism is supposedly truthful and forthright when the opposite is what occurs- secrecy to promote an agenda. Everything around Meghan has been secrecy and diversion ‘sources’ and ‘whispers’. Never direct and cohesive. She, once again, is contradicting herself and covering up her real motives straight down to the definition of words! Does anyone thing besides Meghan being evil, that perhaps she is on the aspergers scale? She follows some of the typical behaviors and traits of an aspie.
Most interesting to read contributions to the list of what she got wrong. I would only add a tiresome level of constant PDA taken to extremes and never before seen in a couple, especially in a professional context. To me, much of the PDA comes across as demonstrations of ownership and control rather than genuine affection.
@MustySyphone ... That is a very interesting comment about surrogacy. It would explain so much ... Each baby is unique, but Archie's birth weight was small for a baby overdue by 10 or more days, and we can see that he is a big boy - more like a Markle. I think his birth weight makes him the smallest royal baby of that generation.
So, for a baby born of a surrogate, the birth certificate would reflect the date of adoption?
I found this article about surrogacy in the UK, which did not answer my questions but is accompanied by photos of Archie being presented as a newborn!
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/surrogacy-uk-cost-it-legal-how-work-baby-kim-kardashian-a8907461.html
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I imagine that this may well be the case. I believe in `ordinary' adoption cases the true certificate is sealed in envelope to be given to the youngster when it achieves its majority. That age came down from 21 to 18 yrs just over 50 years ago.
As I understand it, the adoptive parents may choose whether or nor to tell the child it was adopted; the `temporary' certificate helps avoid the embarrassment of the adoption being broadcast to the world.
I'm basing this on a case I read about where a transgender person obtained court permission to use such a document to avoid their history becoming public knowledge eg to new employers, as birth certificates now have to be used to prove that one is entitled to work in the UK by reason of having been born here. The image of the new certificate did not show the vital stamp.
I may be wrong but I'm open to being corrected.
Fawkes was a papist who decided to blow up parliament with everyone inside including the King but he was hanged drawn and quartered and in that order for his ambitious plan. It is curious that these says the effigies of those burned by the various bonfire societies especially in the County of Sussex (the county with the most of these pyromanic societies) are often parliamentarians. I wonder whether this year they will burn effigies of their Duke and Duchess - or has the lockdown meant cancellation.
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To get some idea of what it can be like, have a Google for `Lewes Bonfire Boys'. This really got going in the 19th century but for something more primitive, try `Ottery St Mary tar barrels' in East Devon.
Such activities were more widespread in the past - in Winchester (Hants) they used to roll blazing tar barrels down the High St - they must have picked up quite a speed on that hill!
The images of Archie's birth certificate shown in the media do not have the stamp because they are not the original but print outs that were then signed by whoever the official person is at the office, thus certifying them as true copies.
So, the details for the original birth certificate were typed into a form, which was then printed and signed by all the relevant parties. This original was then filed as the official birth certificate. It was the same procedure when the birth of Louis was registered. The difference between Louis and Archie is that the press were shown the original, signed and certified, copy for Louis, which they then photographed. For Archie, the pre-signed and stamped form was printed, signed to certify that it was a valid copy, and then given to the press.
The difference is odd. The world was not going to come to an end if the press were shown the original, all properly signed and stamped, to be photographed. It shows a huge difference between the couples in how they view their roles.
Perhaps, the office themselves made the decision, but I don't see why they happily and very proudly brought out the originals for the Cambridge children but followed a very unusual procedure for Archie. As you pointed out, the copy of Archie's birth certificate is actually not a copy of the original as it does not have the stamp, or the vital signatures.
Everything the Sussexes touch becomes so messy when there is actually a straightforward way of doing things. I wonder if they will ever realise that they have created their own bad press, and, actually, the BRF, the press and the public went out of their way to give Meghan special treatment and to welcome her with much gushing and hyperbole.
I wonder if something did not happen that turned the Cambridges and led Meghan to run away? I saw a clip of them all on the balcony when Meghan was actually looking good in a dark blue dress. William was very friendly and chatty, not only with Harry, but also Meghan. What happened? Did William find out that Meghan was behind the Rose rumour? Did he just finally reach a point of having enough of the whining and entitlement and chaos that follows in the wake of the Sussexes?
You know, I thought it seemed early for Remembrance Day...We observe the same date, November 11 as Veteran’s Day here as well, with similar ceremonies. We do not wear poppies (as demonstrated by the facemask brouhaha, Americans take a set against being told they must wear an accessory for patriotism… Sadly To our shame if I’m honest; I wear mine, and I stand for the national anthem too). There is a picture of Camilla laying arrived yesterday, which was the 4th. I shall have to look again and see if they are corroborating stories about it. Perhaps they had a scaled down ceremony a week early because of the corona? Or maybe it was just a warm-up to the official events next week.
Remember, remember the Fifth of November; Gun powder, Treason and plot....!
I suppose coronavirus is going to throw a wrench in Bonfire Night celebrations. I hope some socially distance bonfires will be happening.
It's my shout
This wine is melting the bounds
Between good taste
And what I might say
Matador
Swing your blood red cape
Ole, Ole
I was born an a**hole
[...]
You've seen the best in me and you've seen the beast in me
So don't expect me to be not thinking out loud
[...]
Don't ask this songbird
To hide his song lines
Blown my alibi
[...]
Double life
Is surely breaking my back
I can't fly
But I can Catapult
https://genius.com/James-catapult-lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooIQXwZD7tw
It just occurred to me that the upcoming lock down, which starts today (Thursday), right? May be why Camilla was sighted doing that yesterday. Which means it’s bad news for Bonfire Night. Perhaps with the awareness that community gatherings for bonfire parties could be super spreader events Lead to the choice of today to implement that second lockdown. It seems unlikely therefore, That armistice day Large scale ceremonies won’t likewise be canceled.
I wish all of our British friends fortitude as you go into lockdown again for another month. Godspeed! Here in the states, individual state governors make that decision for their constituencies. So there has never been any sort of nationally consistent policy about virus management, and we see the results of this in our astounding case numbers and deaths. Many schools have already abandoned in person instruction and gone to remote learning again. I really do not foresee another large scale lock down here no matter how bad things get. Too many Americans have shown by their actions that they prefer to die rather than embrace some simple directives from the government. The problem is that there are also killing others who are trying to comply. What interesting times that we do live in.
To register a birth requires a hospital letter, with supporting signature(s).
The birth weight suggests a child born at more or less the expected time - could a 42-day delay account for the discrepancy we see between given age and apparent age of the child?
Of course, we are assuming that the postulated `2nd registration' took place within the 7wk window but there's no guarantee of that.
After all, the Earl of Strathmore (H's gt.gt.grandfather) was late registering the birth of his daughter, Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon (future wife of George VI, later the Queen Mother). Apparently he was given a good ticking off by the Registrar at Hitchin. Presumably he'd been in Scotland in good time for the `Glorious 12th' - the opening of the grouse shooting season. The child's mother had been left in Hertfordshire, at St Paul's Walden, - why should a peer bother with English legal trivialities (or with the welfare of his 9th child or its mother?) when there were grouse to be shot in Scotland?
I saw a clip of them all on the balcony when Meghan was actually looking good in a dark blue dress. William was very friendly and chatty, not only with Harry, but also Meghan. What happened? Did William find out that Meghan was behind the Rose rumour? Did he just finally reach a point of having enough of the whining and entitlement and chaos that follows in the wake of the Sussexes?
Do you mean the RAF flypast? (Her dress looks black to me, but maybe it was just a really dark navy blue or charcoal?)
I'll bet it was the Rose rumor. Everything else could have been explained away as a newbie's honest mistakes. (Yes, I know that blaming so many faux pas in a row on naiveté, ignorance or confusion is really pushing it, but I'm setting up a contrast here.) On the other hand, getting your flying monkeys in the media to print a made-up story about your brother-in-law having an affair is deliberate malice however way you look at it. No possible reason in the world could justify it. The Cambridges must have felt so stabbed in the back after putting on such a friendly, united front in public for her sake. I think Prince William could have forgiven (or at least overlooked) anything that happened in private; but Meghan getting the press and the public involved crossed a very definite line.
Markle's ship sailed shortly after the wedding. Her fortunes will never return.
When did you realize you just couldn't support her any longer?
After MM arrived at the National Theatre with her photographer to deliberately overshadow Camillas very important speech thst day on domestic violence .MM being forwarned still grabbed the headlines in the Evening Standard that day
When Prince Charles after welcoming and supporting MM Then walking her down the aisle in place if her father. MM refused to support PC at his 2019 exhibition
MM let PC down by not showing up giving no notice One of suggested reasons for this was was that MM bekieved pc was using her by cashing in on MM's popularity !?
That's a particularly infuriating one. She was asked to support not just Camilla but also a very worthwhile cause -- one which was also right up her supposedly feminist alley -- and she flat-out did the opposite.
I wonder what Camilla has to say to Prince Charles about his continuing financial support of the Dumbarton Duo.
I came across this talkRADIO interview, (from a few days ago) regarding her lawsuit disaster!
It's worth a listen. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNs5HqafIE4
Yes it is. Over 1,000 comments on Nov. 5, most are definitely negative. Scrolled through most, seems like fewer than 10-15 were positive, supportive or just neutral.
It was the baby shower for me. Her supporters maintain she had her own wealth before she married Harry, so I was shocked a rich/richer person flew to the States, late in pregnancy when it isn't advised, for a lavish baby shower. It was very tacky. I know rich people like the Kardashians have fancy baby showers, but I expect it from them since they are Ultimate Consumer Suckers. Also it clashed with her "humanitarian" persona.
The photos from the baby shower are the real her. She appears to love the attention and had no shame about taking a private jet. I believe she was advised by the palace to not have the shower but did anyway.
On Twitter recently someone from Meghan's Mirror implied that they were given specifics from her camp about the baby shower. I believe even this person stated they weren't comfortable giving details about her location for the shower. Someone on another blog said that initially the press did not cover the baby shower, but then they were called/fed specific details.
It was a photo of this event which I saw yesterday.
Camilla laid a cross at Westminster Abbey honoring war dead. She was standing in for the Ginger Numnutz who has performed this ceremony since 2012. Camilla was impeccable and accessorized her outfit with a poppy face mask that I gather has broken the Internet, at least in Britain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_y2x6DMRqw
Why doesn't she appear with Archie?
I guess Megonna with a Child learned that his pictures don't have the desired effect.
Christmas photo disaster and ridiculous book reading in diapers comes to mind
Don't forget the dark nail polish that meant she was disrespecting the BFA organizers and the Queen at the same time! What a multi-tasker!
This is kind of petty, but my No Mas! moment was the Rose rumors. I take it personally because I smelled a rat from the beginning and had to defend Prince William against friends who were happy to take out their disappointment at the men in their lives on a new public scapegoat. Do you know the way people look at you when they think you're so naive you'd believe the earth is flat? They were looking at me like that. Thanks, Princess Harry!
My very personal experience aside, I find her attack on a family one of the worst things she has ever done. As I said upthread, everything else she was doing as a senior royal could have been chalked up to ignorance or confusion. (Even pinning it on residual American revolutionary spirit gives it an endearing side.) But the affair rumors was simply malicious, sneaky and ugly. And I'll bet that if she revealed candidly what the Cambridges did "to deserve" it, the peek at the abyss of narc's soul would leave even us narc scholars gaping.
The photos from the baby shower are the real her. She appears to love the attention and had no shame about taking a private jet. I believe she was advised by the palace to not have the shower but did anyway.
I agree. She didn't just show her true face to the whole world that day; she flaunted it with a smirk.
Does she still sell magazines or get clicks? She has played the media for fools so many times that you'd think reporters would have grown too disgusted to keep covering her non-eventful life. The Bank of Pa must be paying really, really well. But if that's the case, then quite a bit of residual resentment is going to follow King Charles III into his reign.
https://news.trust.org/item/20201104145311-h280p
Health authorities found virus strains in humans and in mink which showed decreased sensitivity against antibodies, potentially lowering the efficacy of future vaccines, Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said at a press conference.
"The mutated virus in mink may pose a risk to the effectiveness of a future vaccine," she said.
*sigh* We can only hope that it is less fatal, but it may be more fatal with the antibody evasion.
Standing there, by herself, showing respect. Dressed appropriately, humble.
Didn't have her blouse unbuttoned down to there, wasn't trying to be a sex kitten, wasn't trying to shine a light on herself, wasn't pushing anyone out of the way so she could be center frame.
the affair rumors was simply malicious, sneaky and ugly. And I'll bet that if she revealed candidly what the Cambridges did "to deserve" it, the peek at the abyss of narc's soul would leave even us narc scholars gaping.
The epic Scarfing was the Christmas before last . . Meg had been 'in the family' for barely 2 years at that point, and only married in for 7 months. The Rose rumors started in March 2019. So if I had to hazard a guess as to what William 'did to deserve it', the roots may lie in the global humiliation (as Markle would have perceived it) of being so visibly snubbed by the Duke of Cambridge the Christmas prior.) I think Wills had made it a practice to have as little to do with her or Harry as possible, apart from the bare minimum interaction required by their joint public appearances. Making Wills the scapegoat of infidelity rumors may also be tied to him kicking Meg and Harry out of his foundation and effectively dismantling the (Not-So)Fab Four (Only 50% Fabulous and Megsy was in the wrong half).
I wouldn't have credited Mugsy with being familiar enough with William and Catherine's social circle amongst the aristocracy of Norfolk to be the sole source of this rumor. Had she ever met Rose, in the presence, or not, of William also? For someone who took so little interest in her new surroundings, I'd be surprised if she even knew who William's neighbors at Sandringham were. Therefore, I have to blame Harry too for generating this, if it's true that this emanated from the Sussex camp. He escorted Rose to a formal Palace dinner, pre-Meghan, which he must have told her about. Perhaps it was he who voiced the rumor that his brother was too friendly with his comely country neighbor. I think Wills would have kept Meg well away from any of his friends, but she may have encountered Rose at the truncated garden party or Royal Ascot or somewhere, and Harry filled in the blanks.
Was William guilty of the accusation? I certainly hope not . . . after what his father did to his mother? And given that Catherine was heavily pregnant and/or just delivered of Louis at the time? What really happened is between the two couples. Marital infidelity is very prevalent in those circles, but we all expect better from William. Hopefully he expects it of himself, too. The thing with these types of rumors--anything sexual, be it affairs or sexual abuse/harassment is that they do not have to even have a grain of truth to them in order to be damaging. Once the seeds of toxic doubt are planted, it's really hard to eradicate them. The accused is stuck. Do they issue a strenuous denial, making it seem as though they are protesting too much to cover over guilt? Or do they remain silent, fostering speculation that they are guilty as well? It's a no-win situation.
If Meg did have a hand in this, it would be in her wheelhouse. She is well acquainted with infidelity, as all her previous partners can attest to. In her mind, everybody cheats because that's how she rolls. Classic narc maneuver. Though it *is* possible, given her status as a rank outsider to aristocratic circles, that the rumor was generated by someone else in William's circle who actually knows the parties involved well. Harry springs to mind, but it could be someone else. It ties neatly into her scheme for revenge, however it happened, but there is a possiblity that it was opportunistic rather than engineered by her.
Well. Two minute warning for Harry has entered the last 60 seconds.
A quote I found today on thecrownchronicles.co.uk in a nice article about Camilla’s appearance at Westminster Abbey yesterday at the Field of Remembrance. (Lovely photos, very much worth viewing.)
From the article (sit down for it, Hazza):
Surgeon Rear Admiral Jarvis, said of the duchess’s (Camilla) involvement, “It was a lovely event and very poignant despite the lack of crowds. There is a certain level of poignancy in doing it this way, in this weird world in which we all now live.
“The Duchess is an incredibly supportive patron of The Poppy Factory so I think this will now become a regular thing. Prince Harry has obviously got other preoccupations at the moment. We will see what happens over the next year. We think that [her regular involvement] would be very nice.”
.................*boom*
Harry sat next to Rose Hanbury at the Spanish state banquet in summer 2017. He was also her escort in the royal procession Into the dinner. They were said to get along well, chatting amiably. William and Kate were seated not far away, I believe.
It is my opinion, and always will be, that that was the impetus for the rumors, which certainly seem like they might have been perhaps allegedly seeded by a wildly jealous, sidelined, Z-list cable actor furious at the way the event and royal family underlined her lack of invitation and lack of importance.
The thing with these types of rumors--anything sexual, be it affairs or sexual abuse/harassment is that they do not have to even have a grain of truth to them in order to be damaging.
EXACTLY! And leave it to a former yacht girl to smear someone else with a sample of what she is desperately trying to hide.
My friends who believed the story were so angry precisely because "Prince William should know better." I argued that I didn't believe the story because Prince William would know better. He also reportedly loves and respects his mother-in-law, likely because she brings the kind of stable maternal support he wished his own mother could have shown him. I imagine he'd be more afraid of offending Carole Middleton than of offending his own wife!
Now, I certainly don't believe anyone in the world is 100% squeaky clean, however much I may admire him or her. I clearly recall Catherine looking extra drained (and in my estimation, sad) some time after the birth of Princess Charlotte, though I didn't wonder much about it at the time. If there had been cheating going on, well, the timeline supports the theory that Catherine found out about it around that time. And who could forget the jokes about Prince Louis being an "apology baby"? (Joke's on them: He's simply The Best Apology Ever!) Yet Catherine has also been glowing since Louis's birth. Absolutely thriving, in fact. And the Cambridges' body language remains much too "in sync" in public for them to be anything less than a team in private. So IF there was cheating going on, they either made up and forgave each other for whatever previously went on in their marriage, finding out like many similar couples before them that it was absolutely the right decision to make . . . or they're typical spouse-swapping aristocrats who are happy with the lifestyle and can remain good, drama-free friends.
Talking of adultery rumors in the Cambridge marriage always reminds me of the first and last DanjAZone video I ever watched. (You'll be able to figure out why it was the last.) Ashlii started out by saying that she has always been super intuitive and that her mother had the same gift. She has some inside sources, but she also just knows things by looking at people. And one of the things she knew just from looking (which was later confirmed by someone else) is that it was Catherine who had had an affair with Harry. (I still hear Ashlii's Southern-accented voice in my memory wistfully calling it "a great love affair.") They both believed they were in love and wanted to be together, which, of course, was unacceptable to the rest of the BRF. Catherine even had to see the family psychologist/therapist for it. In the end, she decided to stay with William and Harry's heart was broken forever. And this, children, is the true reason why Megan hates Catherine.
Also re Rose, remember that timeline:
Harry seated with Rose at a major state dinner around July 12, 2017.
In September 2017, Meghan,and Markus Anderson, visibly startle an upset Harry by appearing at the Invictus Games ceremonial event.
In November 2017, they announce their engagement saying they have actually been “secretly” engaged for “months” dontcha know.
In December 2018, at a public Christmas church outing, Prince William scarves Meghan. Cameras eat it up. DM has a chuckle.
In Spring 2019, while a now safely married M is supposedly busy expecting a baby (which we shall dub securing the bag) and famous for her recent trip to NYC for expensive celebbaby shower with private jets, paps a bumpless night out with Markus and being yelled at for being a fake Duchess by someone in the crowd, and same spring when she has already shown us her sociopathic messiness on a grand scale in every way, the Rose and William rumors suddenly spill out,
Meghan and Harry were at Soho House Amsterdam with Giles or whatever his name is who started the rumour about William and Rose at the time that he sent out the tweet, which he then retracted when he sobered up the next morning, but it was already out there. Despite the time difference, Lainey in Canada picked up the tweet and made sure the gossip spread. The tabloids accepted it was truth and kept trying to find links and back stories.
There never was any affair.
Meghan and Harry were on the scene and with the person who started it all. I doubt that it was maliciously and carefully planned by Meghan or Harry. They were probably drunk and talking carelessly, and Rose was the target simply because of that connection with Harry (Meghan would hold a grudge because that is how narcs operate, and she was probably extra bitter because she was not only not on the list for any state dinners in the future, but had been denied a tiara for her upcoming royal tour).
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What is eerily creepy are the photos of Mugshot beaming at William. There are quite a few, and one that pops to mind is the one where Her and Handbag are behind The Cambridges as they are leaving the Commonwealth Service. The look on her mug is rather frightening. Could it be that in her mind once the Rose rumours started she thought she stood a chance to get with Wills somehow but still stay married to Handbag.
Their Soho Amsterdam weekend was in September 2018, and yes, Giles was said to be there along with Markus.
The scarf incident with William, December 2018.
The William and Rose nonsense rumor emerges in Spring 2019.
I suppose Giles just took his time? IMO, a planned release as retribution.
Off topic, COVID-19 related: Have y'all in Europe heard much about the new mutated virus (via mink farms) that means that the new vaccines probably won't work?
I live in the area, luckily we are not part of the lockdown.
Listening to the news to see what the plans are.
October 27, 2020
The ginger one can huff and puff all he wants, but he won't sue anyone about those military claims. It would make him look even more whiny, plus, even in his threatening letter admitted much of the article was true.
Prince Harry Markle
to refer to him at Markle - what a downgrade for him. He isn't an individual any more.
Not that the Dumbarkles care about causing embarrassment obviously. It’s what they live for!
Harry may have fantasized about his brother’s woman but I can’t really imagine Catherine being sexually attracted to William’s moody, immature sibling with the drug hobby and idea that going to war was just like playing a really bitchin’ video game. Harry acts much younger than his years and comes across as a pouty half-witted adolescent. Catherine was a good friend and like a big sister to him until Markle came along. Catherine is way out of his league, which is probably a huge part of the grievance Harry has toward William.
I'm not as familiar with timelines, so help out?
I think a couple of things. One was wasn't there some talk of funds unaccounted for at the fab four foundation? And that it had something to do with the Markles? That talk was shut down quickly, but the fab four split up shortly thereafter? And didn't the Markles move their offices around that time also?
The second thing that could have started problems is that they were perhaps told very early in the pregnancy that their child would not have a title. Thus the beginning of them starting the Great Pout.
After those events, I think they started accumulating grievances. Things that otherwise they wouldn't have fussed about, but now each one added to the growing pile of grievances until they had a mountain.
We are keeping a close eye on how things are progressing here at the mo, will let you know how the land lies.
The past week our map has all turned deep red.
I am being very anti social, go for walks in the woods but steer clear of people.
Have been shopping only twice since March.
I have only been at one of the Sussex bonfire parties but not Lewes. A year or so ago they burned Grenfell Tower which I thought very funny black humour after all the nauseous virtue signalling from which if I recall correctly the Duchess of Sussex was not immune but three men were in a lot of trouble for that.
Do you ladies have a roladeck of Harkle events? I only ask because so many of you seem to have all the dates and facts at your finger tips. Really, I am both amazed and impressed.