Apologies to all for my absence - I am overwhelmed by work-related duties related to the US election.
Here's a fresh link, so you no longer need to wade through 1000+ comments.
Back later in the week, I hope!
- Nutty
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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In the photo of her in the blue and white bedspread she must have been in very very high heels judging by her height with Harry, how can she walk, all that fabric wooshing around and stiletto heels whilst heavily pregnant. Guess she needed all that extra padding so if she fell she would just bounce back up;)
Ah, the Wedgewood blue Regency duvet accessorized with the toilet paper chapeau . . . This was the following month after the wedding, I believe, and already the wheels were coming off Mugsy's bus. In her first appearance as a Royal, post-wedding, in the blush pink garden party number (and hosiery!) she looked suitably demure and situationally appropriate, for a tony spring event. We didn't know anything about the drama and the temper tantrums behind the scenes at that point.
Her second appearance, TOTC 2018 in her 'Harry Rochester's Little Island Bride' balcony number . .still a decent effort, bare shoulders aside. Compared to how she was dressing on the Tig and the wolverine-ravaged jeans for her first public appearance as Harry's girlfriend, still trying, though pushing the envelope already with skin on the balcony.
The psychopathic sniggering when the gentleman fainted and fell from his horse came to light later, of course.
The bedspread/bog roll ensemble wasn't too far in, and was her first proper upper crust British wedding. The Jamaican nuptials of Skippy didn't count here. And Mugsy mangled it. Willowy Kiera Knightley, queen of the period costume could have rocked that dress, in a size that fit properly. Mugsy was swamped in hers. And, she fell in her ridiculous shoes, if you recall . . nearly face-planting into a grassy hill. Mugsy, Mugsy . . so clumsy for a life-long yogi . . so devoid of ANY fashion sense at all, for a working actress/aspiring fashionista of two decades. Trying so, so very hard to fit in with the cool, rich kids and failing miserably.
Here's my favorite photo from the event. Herself is NOT happy and is glaring at the camera. First time for everything! She has just been forced to see some of the other glamorous leggy aristo blondes arriving, in flowered dresses and fascinators that look effortless, while there she is, a Duchess, but still dumpy little Megsy wearing a ball of toilet paper on her head.
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Meghan and Harry’s involvement in the election is interesting. A commenter pointed out that it limits their future involvement because instead of waiting and be impartial they put all their eggs in the PR basket in this instance. I find that really interesting.
Does anyone think we will continue to hear from Meghan and Harry in a political nature or was it PR opportunity of the moment (which is how they roll)? This might be another reason the BRF draws the hard line in Spring.
I think besides M&H a lot of celebrities have PR egg on their face due to the election being so close.
That’s as much as I will wade into election conversation and I agree we should stick to Meghan and Harry and the BRF’s actions in this case.
Why she wouldn't stop, knowing it was not want her in-laws wanted...I guess you chalk that up to a pathology that gets more joy "making them uncomfortable," to use a quote of hers. This is why the stories that she didn't get enough support/she's a vulnerable newlywed etc/ don't wash.
I liked your comment because you point (correctly) at the implications for the royal family given Markle's political activism. After watching her in the USA I have the answer why she was totally incapable of operating within the royal environment.
She thinks in short term goals; she can't grasp the mindset of the institution that centres at the woman who has been it's leader for nearly 70 years. It requires completely different modus operandi compared to the actress who can't see beyond her next TV role or another gig or the immediate way to make more money.
@ Cookie Shark: This is typical behavior of a person with narcissistic personality disorder. Narcs have wrap themselves in extremely inflated egos with an exaggerated senses of grandiosity and entitlement. The presence of a sense of entitlement is already commonly present in many millennials, and Meghan’s got a triple helping of it.
From the warped viewpoint of a narc like Meghan, traditionally accepted norms of behavior, politeness, social rules, and especially in the case of the RF, protocols, are regarded as beneath the narcissist. In other words, rules are for everyone else but not them.
In effect, Meghan has been lying fro the start. At the BBC engagement interview, one of the question along the lines how different her life would be upon joining the RF would be, Harry said that they had spent a lot of time discussing the RF and everything involved with it and how it would be a huge change for Meghan. She acted (acted being the operative word here) how much she looked forward to this change and becoming part of the team.
But she was in essence lying. Narcs are NOT team players unless they
are the head of the team. They want to have ultimate control and they want to be the star.
Within the confines of her relationship with Harry alone, it was already obvious at the interview that she was the dominant person in their relationship, and she would also take on the starring role. No more secondary cast roles or bit parts for Meghan.
The big problem is that while within their relationship of just two people she had what she wanted, but as a cog in the much bigger structure of The Firm, with many people above them, the Sussexes were just two members of the team and not particularly special in the big picture of the Royal Family. This causes people with narcissistic personality disorder to chafe with frustration. Their anger and resentment toward people farther up the hierarchy of any organization, be it a corporation, or a family like the Windsors, causes them to lash out.
Before meeting Meghan, Harry seemed to be OK with being the spare. He could enjoy all the benefits of being a royal without facing the heavy mantle of being monarch that hangs over William. He could be the fun one.
Harry had a pretty sweet deal.
But then Meghan came along and quickly exploited the aspect of being the spare to her advantage by encouraging to join her in the pool of victimhood she had built for herself. Harry had already been so manipulated and controlled by her that he happily jumped in head first.
She has played Harry magnificently, all the way to quitting the family and duties, which are in many ways one and the same, and running off to Netflix land.
Harry’s preaching about race and systematic racism are a continuation of him being manipulated into buying more shares of victimhood with Meghan, who has gone to great lengths to shun her blackness to live as white of a life as possible.
She used race to tap into Harry when they met and through the quickie courtship. She also used it as a tacit threat against the royal family to prevent them from discouraging their relationship.
But now that race has come to the forefront of the American psyche, Meghan is suddenly all in while continuing to live an uber privileged life.
After all, she feels she is entitled to it and the people that provide it to her are beneath her and can go to hell.
Harry is beneath her, but she still needs to use him. For now.
"Bea and Eugenie are less perfect and therefore more relatable. They can be an asset, no?"
I agree the York sisters would be more relatable to many younger people. And older folks who are royalists probably remember them as tiny adorable princesses. IMO both their weddings showed some positive values. Eugenie with her scar showing and her beautiful curtsy. She also used Louise and James as "child wranglers." I thought that was a sweet way to include family members of that sort of awkward "in-between age." And while I'm sure the reception and any honeymoon they took was fairly lavish, Bea's wedding was in some ways reminiscent of the best of a "wartime" wedding down to wearing a dress of Grandmother's. All in all, both women telegraphed "family first" and that's not a bad thing IMO.
While we tend to think of their mother, Sarah, as only a disaster on wheels, at one point she was a loyal asset to The Firm and quite relatable too. Not like the unattainable Diana. Too bad the press ("Duchess of Pork") was so hard on her. "Fergie" did have her admirers though (and that may have created some of the jealousy Diana supposedly ended up feeling.) But a young Sarah Ferguson was often quite charming in her royal work. I think Eugenie and Bea could be too. I don't know if Charles will ever soften though.
What are Meghan's political next-steps?
Maybe when they went to Morocco Megs thought she would come back laden with Diamonds having love bombed the King and bedazzled the young Crown Prince whilst heavily pregnant.
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Maybe so, when Charles and Diana visited Saudi Arabia the Saudis gave Diana a parure, i think it was necklace, earrings, bracelet--Kate sometimes wears some of the pieces...Stephen Barry in his first book talked about how excited the two were when they got back to England, showing it to him and talking about how much it might be worth.
MM may have been hoping/dreaming of similar gifts.
Fairy makes a good point re:Meghan's short term-ism. I never looked at it quite that way before. If we couple that with Meghan's BFF political crew in Canada and the picture gets very clear. If Meghan is no longer friends with Jessica, pigs fly.
What are Meghan's political next-steps?
Maybe she'll be the US Ambassador to the UK.
Megsy the next ambassador to the UK? She didn't finish her internship at the US embassy in Argentina and didn't pass her exams. She doesn't have what it takes anyway. And I can't see her at the court of St James.
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Sandie said...
Re the South African tour ...
I never understood what was the justification for it. The British ambassador certainly pushed for it and made some tone deaf comments about curtseys and hats.
Most South Africans were not interested in them or the tour. The enthusiasm you saw was warm hospitality.
The tour was not tied to any event or anniversary or programme ... no special event or state occasion. In fact, the Harkles did go to the President's residence to greet and exchange gifts, and they were late, keeping the President and his wife waiting, and Meghan was under dressed for the occasion.
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@Sandi / Nutties
I always thought the African Tour was at least in part planned as a preliminary look-around for Megalo to see if she would be willing to relocate there with Harry and "Archie". I remember all the talk that surfaced about them being sent to Africa to live for a portion of the year after it became clear there would be no "Fab Four".
Of course, now we know the Harkles were already plotting to leave the royal family...so they agreed to take the most expensive royal tour of that year and then used it for their own purposes. Not only did they arrange events to highlight and advertise themselves, but they also made a secret video and launched their lawsuit during the tour. And they obviously had no intention of living anywhere in Africa.
I did a search for DM articles that tell the tale of all the African plans for the Harkles and came up with the following:
>>>These first two early articles discuss the idea of Harry and Meghan living in Africa part of the year. They describe RF assignments ranging from 6 months to 3 years!
#1 From April 2019:
Harry and Meghan 'are being lined up for a three-year assignment in Africa combining Commonwealth and charity work' after the birth of their child
-Duke and Duchess of Sussex will settle into Frogmore Cottage before decision
-Believed role will be in Africa because of Prince Harry's Lesotho trip on gap year
-Comes as pair move out of Kensington Palace and into Frogmore Cottage
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6943657/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Courtiers-lining-plans-hand-rock-stars-job-Africa.html
#2 From June 2019:
Prince Harry 'wants to take Meghan and Archie with him on Angolan trip to finish anti-landmine work that his mother Diana started'
-Prince Harry is said to be hoping to take Meghan Markle and their son Archie on a tour of African countries
-Harry wants to carry on his late mother's legacy of anti-landmine charity work in Angola during six-month visit
-Malawi, South Africa and Botswana are also thought to be possible destinations on the 'secondment' itinerary
-Princes Diana visited Angola in 1997 to do charity work, just months before her death in a car crash in Paris
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7130471/Prince-Harry-wants-Meghan-Archie-Angolan-trip-finish-work-mother-started.html
>>>The next two stories were written just prior to the tour and address the reasons the RF gave for sending them there.
#3 From Sept 2019
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have been asked to tour Africa because they 'connect to young people in a way other royals can't' and 'fly the flag for multicultural Britain', aides reveal
-Foreign office said they were picked as they can connect to young people
-They will visit South Africa, Angola, Botswana and Malawi in a two-week tour
-It will be their first tour with baby Archie, who Meghan has been looking after
-She returned from maternity leave yesterday and launched a charity clothes line
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8770539/The-sky-high-cost-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-big-tour-Africa-tore-Royals-apart.html
Part 2
#4 From Sept 2019:
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are under pressure to make their royal tour of Africa a success to 'turn the tide' of bad publicity, and baby Archie will be 'key player', royal expert claims
-Meghan Markle, 38, and Prince Harry, 35, set for royal tour of Africa on Monday
-Source claims couple know it 'has to be a success' to turn tide on bad publicity
-Royal commentator Ingrid Seward suggests Archie will be 'key player' in this
-Faced controversial summer after privacy demands and use of private jets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7486221/Meghan-Prince-Harry-know-Africa-royal-tour-success-turn-tide-bad-publicity.html
>>>The last 2 articles were written more recently and focus on the cost of the tour and resentment over the waste of money they ended up being!
#5 From Sept 2020
The £240,000 slap in the face: Royal experts say Meghan Markle and Prince Harry would have justified year's most expensive royal trip if they hadn't used it to launch 'personal' attack on press
-Royal accounts show £240,000 of taxpayers' money spent on 2019 Africa tour
-Experts say tour, including South Africa and Angola, could have been a success
-But they say couple scored 'own-goal' when they ended it with attack on press
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8772379/Royal-experts-say-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-ruined-Africa-trip-attack-press.html
#6 From Sept 2020
The sky-high cost of tour that tore Royal Family apart: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's African trip cost £245,000 making it the most expensive jaunt by The Firm last year, as total travel bill hits £5.3m
-The trip to South Africa, Botswana, Angola and Malawi had been billed as one of showpiece events of the year
-But couple left months of work by staff and diplomats in tatters after they launched a rebuke against the press
-They also secretly recorded explosive TV documentary in which Meghan painted Harry's family as uncaring
-The Sussexes, who took Archie on the trip, stepped down as senior working royals months later, and live in US
-Royal accounts show £245,643 was spent on scheduled flights and a private jet for the couple and entourage
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8770539/The-sky-high-cost-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-big-tour-Africa-tore-Royals-apart.html
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I don't think it was as much not listening as it was nobody was gonna tell Ms Ready to Hit the Ground Running what to do.
If protocol had said bare shoulders she would have been covered from head to toe. If it had said no hats, she would have had some brightly colored monstrosity for every outing.
I think she went out of her way to do the opposite of whatever protocol required, just because it was the opposite.
Oppositional Defiance Disorder to add to her list of disorders.
Well done. Good sum up. The Harkles cynically used the high profile African trip to give visibility to their own complains. They planned and timed it completely disregarding the consequences to all sides.
They won the battle but lost the war.
People in the royal surrounding are not idiots, they could see what we can see. This tour was the biggest disaster in royal tour history.
That is the point! She is not really qualified to do *anything*. I would suggest that she take up waiting tables, but she would have to actually listen to what customers want to order and the restaurant would have some say on her apparel.
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That seemed not smart on their part. Locks them into a position which might not have worked out.
I think they would have been better off staying far above The fray. Keep their options open.
Perhaps the Queen and Harry were trying to sell South Africa as a possible second home for Harry and Megs,
Or trying to sell Meg to South Africa? Well, after the way she behaved, we can't blame the South Africans if they'd rather not have her!
(Before the SA tour, there had already been rumors that the Sussexes were to be sent there in order to be a more effective President and VP of The Queen's Commonwealth Trust. If those were actual plans and Meghan got wind of them, she probably deliberately muffed up the tour to make sure she wouldn't be wanted back. The messy hair under the headscarf comes to mind immediately. Those dangling locks of hair had to have been pulled out after she put the headscarf on. She wanted to look like an unkempt mess at a mosque.)
Meghan and Harry’s involvement in the election is interesting. A commenter pointed out that it limits their future involvement because instead of waiting and be impartial they put all their eggs in the PR basket in this instance.
I saw their political involvement not as short-sighted but as totally blind -- and what they didn't see was their own place in America. Obviously, Meghan hopes to get a political career out of this and believes her chances would be better if the team she has backed wins. But she is obvious that no one on that team wants her. They may be happy that she picked them -- in the way we're all happy when we see that someone we don't like is at least on our side on an important issue -- but they're not going to reward her for it. This move has no real benefits for her and only a looming tidal wave of negative consequences. If she thought that a US political party would rescue her from the horrible, nasty foreign royal family that is being so mean and cruel to her, then she picked the wrong knight to play damsel in distress to.
Oh my goodness me, yes!
Narcs can use it in the most trivial situations - I had no fewer than 3 instances of it, in quick succession, in my own kitchen - Narc absolutely refused to hand me some cutlery so I could pop it in the dishwasher when we were in a hurry:
`No, I shall wash it up!' whereupon she took as long as she possibly could, washing everything else she could find as well.
I then warned hers about dropping our very sharp knives (husband sharpens them without mentioning it and I often cut myself) into cloudy washing-up water but she still went ahead. (I made swift decision to wrap a clean tea towel round any wound, take her to the front door, give her directions for walking to the Minor Injuries unit, then give her shove to see her on her way.)
Finally, she refused point blank to stop tipping tealeaves down the sink when asked - I knew she didn't do that in her own kitchen and we have very good reasons for not doing it either.
She was 75 at the time but, looking back, I can see she'd always been like it. That was over 2 years ago and I still hope never to set eyes on her again - the `wound' is still very sore, as you can probably tell. So much stress which could have been avoided but, short of fisticuffs, I couldn't have stopped her.
I read somewhere that a psychopath can't see a boundary but they have to go over it. In this case, what you do not do in another woman's kitchen. In the case of Markle, it may be taking a leaf out of Diana's book - didn't she speak of `rattling the cages' of the RF?
I posted my reply to @Puds before seeing the list of news stories you had complied. Obviously there were more than just the "rumors" I had alluded to in my own comment.
Well, she's have to `present her credentials to the Court of St James's' and be formally received.
She might make history by being the first ever diplomat of any gender or colour to be declared persona non grata and removed from the Kingdom before she gets that far!
Maybe she'll be the US Ambassador to the UK.
I said above that I don't think her preferred political party will ever offer her anything, but wouldn't it be wonderful if the next US President, as a favor to Her Majesty, called Meghan to the Oval Office to ask her to be Ambassador to South Africa?
"It was such a successful tour, Ms. Markle -- and we could tell that you really connected with the people, especially the other mothers. We're certain Archie would love to see Archbishop Tutu again as well."
I wonder how quickly she would nope out of there and what her little narc mind would come up with for revenge!
You guys have got me cracking up. Yes, it is a remote possibility, but the UK ambassadorship is the most coveted if all in politics. They have a great residence, parties, diplomatic favor...it's the best gig around.
Unfortunately, due to the diplomatic nature of the role I don't think a member of the BRF can hold that position. I would DIE to see it, though. I am totally here for the entertainment factor of Ambassador Markle.
I doubt the assumed presidential winner would want to insult the Queen this way, though. They are a very nasty couple in terms of foreign relations.
It's funny to me that Meghan loves liberalism, and hates the UK. The UK is much more liberal with the social endeavors she pursues than the US. She's a champagne socialist. She thinks she can benefit personally from liberalism and fails to see the irony in her choices thus far. Backing away from the political convo here...hope you guys understand the point I'm making. It's not meant to be 'political' just more of the same from Meghan the Ironic. ;)
I know it can get difficult to always get along but I am putting my trust in all of you to be civil.
I ask that Nutties please limit discussions to things directly related to the Sussexes. For now, politics should be discussed in a very narrow scope and just in direct reference to actual Sussex activities.
Thank you for your cooperation.
I posted the wrong link on article #3.
Here is the correct one:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7460985/Harry-Meghan-asked-tour-Africa-connect-young-people-better-royals.html
Can anyone get past the Times paywall and see that article about JCMH being denied his request to have a wreath placed at the Cenotaph?
Someone should tell him he no longer holds that position.
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Apparently, someone did. Ouch.
"Prince Harry, who stepped down from royal duties in March, made the personal request to Buckingham Palace, but was denied by courtiers on the grounds that he is no longer representing the monarchy. He first laid a wreath at the Cenotaph in 2009 at the age of 25."
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925455/Prince-Harry-calls-Remembrance-Sunday-moment-respect-hope.html
He said: 'When I get asked about this period of my life I draw from memories, I draw from what I remember and who I remember.
'Like the first time we were shot at and who I was with, the casualties we saw, and those we saved. And the first medivac we escorted out of contact in a race against time.
From a couch somewhere in the greater Los Angeles area, the Ginger Whinger did a podcast to steal the thunder away from his Gran today, explaining how much Remembrance Day means to him and what an honor it is to have served and wear the uniform...all doing his bit to make it a safer world...! It goes on to share how watching Harry lose his ceremonial military appointments “was the hardest thing for Meghan to witness”. Even in an article about Harry, it Has to come back to being about her. She can’t resist another job at the RF, saying how it was “so completely unnecessary” for H to lose this military positions. It closes with a reminder that as a military veteran, Harry still is entitled, and always will be, to wear his medals.
I just have no words for these two absolute tossers. I’m to the point where I feel sick, literally physically ill, when I see either the pictures or read any of their toxic tripe.
Can anyone get past the Times paywall and see that article about JCMH being denied his request to have a wreath placed at the Cenotaph?
Someone should tell him he no longer holds that position.
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Here you go...
Prince Harry’s plea to lay Cenotaph wreath denied
Roya Nikkhah, Royal Correspondent
Sunday November 08 2020, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times
The Duke of Sussex was refused permission for a wreath to be laid at the Cenotaph on his behalf today, in the latest sign of the growing gulf between him and the royal family.
Prince Harry, who stepped down from royal duties in March, made the personal request to Buckingham Palace, but was denied by courtiers on the grounds that he is no longer representing the monarchy. He first laid a wreath at the Cenotaph in 2009 at the age of 25.
The Queen was not made aware of her grandson’s wish.
Harry is understood to be deeply saddened by the decision, the clearest sign yet that his official links to the royal family are permanently severed. His decade of military service, which he once described as “one of the best professions you can ever be involved with”, transformed his image from that of a playboy prince. He became a campaigner for veterans’ causes, including the Invictus Games, the sporting event for wounded and ill service personnel.
The duke gave up his military posts after relocating to California with the Duchess of Sussex, including his role as Captain General of the Royal Marines. But a year-long “review period” agreed with the Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge aimed to leave the door open for Harry to resume some of his military links, an option that now seems unlikely.
In a recording for the Declassified podcast which will air today, Harry, 36, said: “Remembrance Day for me is a moment for respect and for hope. I wear it [the poppy] to celebrate the bravery and determination of all our veterans. These are the people and moments I remember when I salute, when I stand at attention and when I lay a wreath at the Cenotaph.”
Harry is not the only royal to be absent from today’s service. The Duke of York will also not attend.
Buckingham Palace declined to comment.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harrys-plea-to-lay-cenotaph-wreath-denied-t2wtght2m
https://apple.news/AOeRWl_xETMmLpeVg9t3QPw
LOL
The Kingdom of Markle is a sparkly and magical place where Reality never intrudes. It’s really something. I’ve only seen this level of denial in one other person, and he’s just got notice that he’s being evicted from his current address.
Why was my comment at around 1.12am deleted? I was only quoting Lavender lady and asking her to stop making assumptions about what we "all" would be doing or not doing about candidate X in the elections. I was certainly not discussing the results.
Thanks for the Times article @Sally
Interesting they stated the Queen was not aware
of Harry’s wish?
They also mentioned the year long “review period”
All in all a not so gentle reminder to Hazard
that he’s finished.
Trussed, and stuffed, like a Norfolk and Good turkey.
Megflix and Grill
Megs MO for politics
Toss more salad, see what sticks
Who she cons to be her backer
Will soon realise it’s best to sack her
Megs, the low down bag of tricks
Is better suited to Negflix
Looks like Godfather part 2 to me, with William as Michael Corleone:
"Fredo (Harry), you're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the hotels, I don't want you near my house. When you see our (grand)mother, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there."
For those who have not watched the Godfather series, Fredo was too dim to take good advice and it ended badly for him.
The Goof Hairy
Harry’s wish to lay a wreath
Knocked back quick, caused him grief
Maybe he now understands
They’ll not give in to his demands
What a fall for Harry Wails
His wishes naught, but fairy tales
Hmm?
(H and Rache?)
@SwampWoman
Does Harry like fishing 😉
One of my friends told me last night that she awakens every morning at 3 a.m. for her shift in the hospital when I complained to her that now that I can sleep in, I can't. I awoke in the early morning this A.M. for her hospital shift (that she is retired from) and have now given up sleep as unobtanium. I am drinking a cup of bitter, stale coffee left over from yesterday before I brew a fresh batch so I'll salute y'all with it. Cheers! (Probably a perfect time to embark on Javascript in 3 Hours. I'll either be coding or asleep shortly, win/win.)
@SwampWoman
Does Harry like fishing 😉
He should probably decline all fishing invitations from any of the family (or their security)!
@WildBoar
H and Rache, the “Hachers of Hollywood”
The R’ache on the make..
The Goof Hairy
Harry’s wish to lay a wreath
Knocked back quick, caused him grief
Maybe he now understands
They’ll not give in to his demands
What a fall for Harry Wails
His wishes naught, but fairy tales
WHAT a succinct summary of the situation! (I'll save a cup of that stale, bitter coffee for Harry. He's gonna need it.)
@SwampWoman
Bitter Weeds even better..
Cannon Fodder
At the end of the day
Silly Haz ran away
He did us all a big favour
The loose cannons, now shot
With his sidekick, the Thot
Much schadenfreude for us to savour
Cannon Fodder is a masterpiece! I am just sitting here savoring the savagery.
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Whitehall today:
PC looked rather upset, I thought, as he arrived at his mark - blinking rapidly and swallowing hard, almost tearful?. Camilla too looked strained. I wonder what, if anything, had been going on?
HM looked neutral, as did Wm (marvellous bearing!)
Catherine fantastic - what a coat!
Dumbty diddly dumb di dumb...
Remembrance. The Queen looked good, stoic as always.
Kate, such forbearance, love her coat, magnifique.
Megs underestimated Kate, big mistake.
Kate and William, the backbone of the RF.
Looks like the whole thread on which you commented is removed. I don't think it was specifically your comment.
I have never seen a single offensive comment from you.
@Sandie
I’m so sorry you’re having a rough time X
@Maneki
As Fairy Crocodile said, you’ve never said anything offensive.
There was a lot going on, I’ve subscribed to emails,
very telling!!
You were caught up in all the mess.
Please keep on posting 😘
He doesn't really understand the consequences of walking away from his duties as a senior royal, does he? He thought he could be "half in, half out" - all the privileges and perks of being royal with none of the responsibilities or restrictions, just as MM promised him. Instead, the reality of his situation is slowly sinking in. Also, I think it is ridiculous of him to be upset that he will lose his honorary position with the Royal Marines when he couldn't even be bothered to keep in touch with them. He loves the prestige and the snappy uniform - the duties, not so much.
You're on yet another roll! Megflix and Grill is my favorite so far!
@Enbreth
Cheers, still rolling ☺️
Because it was deliberately trying to sabotage the blog and everything that quoted "it" as well as any of the other personages/sock puppets arguing with itself are purged when moderation is deemed necessary.
My goodness, that was a convoluted sentence.
Thank you for your kind words, they mean a lot 😘. I'm at a loss to understand what I did wrong. I've never been offensive to anyone and was not commenting on the elections. I haven't even had - so far - the courtesy of an explanation.
I just don't like someone assuming they speak for "all" of us, i.e. the poster I was addressing.
@SwampWoman
I really don't understand. Are you saying my comment was "deliberately trying to sabotage the blog"? Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick.
The whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. There is a fine line between moderation and censorship.
For Maneki
I call on us Nutties
Comfort, like our chip butties
A place that we hold, very dear
No need for division
Despite Megs derision
Nutties stand strong, together,
that’s clear.
I do not know why the Harkles have not started their own YouTube channel/series so that EVERYBODY can tune in for their latest life updates and fashion tips. They're in such demand that it should be an instant success. They can MERCH! They can preen! They can give their own (formerly) royal updates and insights into royal life! (Okay, maybe I am suffering from lack of sleep here.) Seriously, they *could* have had a channel commenting on various royal appearances, the good causes behind it, why it is so important, but nooooo.
My first guess is that they were forbidden, as per the agreement with BP, to have one. But considering Meghan's Oppositional Defiance Disorder (Thanks, @Mel!), she would have found a way around it, had she really wanted to.
My current guess is that YouTube isn't prestigious enough for her. Anyone can start a YouTube channel and multiple amateur YouTubers already have a million subscribers. An additional 653 have reached the 20-million mark, and an elite 15 got to 50 million. Unless the Harkles buy subscribers (the way they bought Instagram followers), I doubt they'll ever get to 1 million. It would be too humiliating to be objectively less successful than PewDiePie.
And it's not just subscribers that they'd have to budget for, but also a full production team. Meghan would probably insist on writing her own scripts and be able to figure out lighting and sound equipment. But editing might be beyond her, to name one other aspect. She surely learned enough from her stint in Hollywood to know what it takes to create something really polished, even if it's only five minutes long. There's no way she's going to hitch her brand to something with obviously low production values.
Better to cultivate the aura of exclusivity that comes from having to grant interviews to the peasants -- and preferably paid interviews.
@SwampWoman
Exactly that!!
Surely a big sign of madness is arguing
with oneself?
I wonder if JH reads the blogs such as this one and Harry Markle? We know he reads the British tabloids, since he's threatening to sue the MoS for an article which says he abandoned the Royal Marines.
@Maneki
Subscribe to the emails.
Very illuminating....
SAVAGE!
Unfortunately, even Disney no longer wants them . . . if it ever did.
Thanks for being so patient for my response. Both abbyh and I were sleeping when you posted your message and today is a work day for me.
You didn't post anything offensive or do anything wrong. I apologize if my deletions made you feel that way. This blog is generally free-flowing but the goal is on-topic posts. Last night, there was a kerfuffle and I removed posts connected to that thread. When there are arguments or negative back-and-forth between posters, it generally will be deleted from littering the blog. It doesn't add substance and most Nutties don't care to read it.
All of us appreciate what you bring to the blog. I hope you stay and continue to post here. However, I support whatever choice makes you happiest. Thank you again!
And I mean nothing - not motherhood, not the respect one owes one's parents when they have sacrified to raise one, not the sacred bonds of matrimony, friendship, common human decency. Nothing.
Thank you for getting in touch and your kind words. I certainly didn't mean to add fuel to the fire. I always post about H&M. I just got annoyed that someone purported to speak for all us on a non Harkles topic.
Thanks for the advice. I did subscribe to emails at first, then got fed up with them! I'll try again.
I've just seen your latest poem, thank you so much 😃. I was just thinking I needed one of your poems to cheer me up. Thank you xx
Kate was suitably attired, looking solemn and regal which MM could never achieve. The Harkles must be peeved. Too bad, they sidelined themselves.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8926015/Kate-Middleton-cuts-sombre-figure-Alexander-McQueen-coat-attends-Remembrance-Sunday.html
this tweet says:
Harry YOU are responsible for more deaths on that tour of duty then any other tour before and after. Why were you called bunker Harry? The army did not want you there because it made the soldiers more of a target but you would not listen!
SwampWoman said...
Maneki Neko said: Why was my comment at around 1.12am deleted? I was only quoting Lavender lady and asking her to stop making assumptions about what we "all" would be doing or not doing about candidate X in the elections. I was certainly not discussing the results.
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Because it was deliberately trying to sabotage the blog and everything that quoted "it" as well as any of the other personages/sock puppets arguing with itself are purged when moderation is deemed necessary.
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@SwampWoman
I really don't understand. Are you saying my comment was "deliberately trying to sabotage the blog"? Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick.
The whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. There is a fine line between moderation and censorship.
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I think SwampWoman is saying that poster LL was "deliberately trying to sabotage the blog" so therefore, all comments connected to her posts were deleted along with LL's disruptive remarks - which were apparently every single one of her posts.
I agree with Magatha that comments through email are illuminating as they contain everything including those that have been deleted.
It's also easier to access links that posters provide as the emailed version of posts displays them 'live' and clickable.
Thanks for the Times article @Sally
Interesting they stated the Queen was not aware
of Harry’s wish?
They also mentioned the year long “review period”
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You're Welcome Magatha!
And Thank YOU for your latest witticisms.
Yes, the article had some interesting points - I tried to highlight them in 'bold'.
Hopefully, this is all heading to a stripping of titles and removal from the succession.
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Fairy Crocodile said...
@Sally1975
Well done. Good sum up. The Harkles cynically used the high profile African trip to give visibility to their own complains. They planned and timed it completely disregarding the consequences to all sides.
They won the battle but lost the war.
People in the royal surrounding are not idiots, they could see what we can see. This tour was the biggest disaster in royal tour history.
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Thanks @Fairy!
I enjoy researching. I think putting together a series of articles on any aspect of the Harkle story can be very revealing as well as a good reference. I had wanted to do a separate post analyzing the articles but got sidetracked with all the blog drama.
Thanks also for the other kind post you wrote to me.
When reality strikes and Megs hits bottom, she'll try to deflect it all onto Harry, BP, et al et ux et vir. She'll use all of her media flying monkeys to publish as much adverse information about him and others as possible, blame him for every single flop she has created.
Watch now as she next tries to schmooze her way into the new Biden admin. in some kind of diplomatic role. Ha ha. My prediction is she'll be rejected and blown off because she's made herself and Harry so radioactive.
Thank you :)
If Harry had married any other American, famous or not, I think we would have seen someone who would have respected what the crown stood for and their adopted country.
Meg from day one has been looking out for herself.
I had never heard of her until Harry sent that silly letter to the papers.
I've always been pro monarchy, but think they screwed up big style with her.
She has embarrassed not only the UK but also the US.
Sorry I will be ranting.
Our working royals are a strange bunch, aren't they? Born into a superb luxury and even a special legal regime. Their only task in life is not to embarrass us and keep the standards of duty, in exchange they have their every need cared for. Tourist revenues is a nice extra, of course.
We are used to the idea that he Monarchy is bigger than the individual. It provides us with links to our couple thousand years of royal history. We can still see the real faces of monarchs (effigies) who reigned in 13th century, in the Westminster Abbey . Henry VIII is still very real to us (bastard with six wives who destroyed miracles of architecture); his daughter Elizabeth I is the first child free feminist. Bloody Mary for us is not a vodka cocktail but a damaged woman Mary I, who had been treated horribly as a kid and looked for happiness in the wrong place. We calmly discuss how the recently found Richard III looks very much like his medieval portrait and really was a hunchback. We are still gossiping about Queen Victoria and her Mr. Brown.
We do have a very high expectations of our royal family because of all that and much much more on top. It may be difficult to understand for a dayfly like Meghan Markle.
Personally I have a lot of resentment towards Harry and Andrew because they turned out to be too stupid to grasp that Monarchy is not about them. They let us down and the nation will not forgive this
Seems like Harry has completed his coursework in tone-deaf pushiness with his teacher, M. He thinks he can simply keep sh*****g over the military, Tim after time, and still lay a wreath there for some press or a scene for Netflix? Go scrub a Montecito loo, you daft beast.
I hope whoever received and mid-field denied his request burnt H’s foolish ears off.
Or, I hope Prince Philip and Anne are laughing their royal behinds off tonight about it, over a nice jolly drink with the staffers who let some stallions from the Horse Guards soil Harry’s wreath whine, at PP’s direction, before shipping it back to California.
Thank you, you are kind😊
As much as we despise Andrew he was brave during the Falklands war. He was flying a helicopter based at HMS Invincible when the Argentinians targeted it with the missile fire and it did put him in the real danger. He faced the real enemy fire and risked his life.
I think this is the reason why the Queen was so enormously proud about him and shut her eyes to his behaviour so many times. He is a war hero for her, like Phillip. She sees his father in him.
So Andrew's military career was reported truthfully and it wasn't all PR?
What else can you tell us about his time in the military?😍
What does everyone think of the Times article statement that the Queen didn't know about Harry's request for a wreath?
Would a decision like that be made without her?
I am sorry but I do not know much. Falklands war is a bit in the past so I can't say anything apart from what is a generic knowledge.
Perhaps our esteemed Nattiers can contribute to this? I am sure Andrew's bravery has been extensively covered in the press then.
So Andrew's military career was reported truthfully and it wasn't all PR?
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Andrew served in the military for 22 years, starting in 1979. I think at the time there was no PR like now and what was reported was what happened (in my opinion). I don't think the press tried to big him up.
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1325531175201419278
Pretty pathetic, really.
Besides, it was the Queen who would have made the decision, not Charles, as was the case for Harry. And we all know Charles has no steel in his spine.
@Sally1975 maybe your British cousins can fill you in with Andrew and his time spent in the Navy better than we can?
@SwampWoman
I really don't understand. Are you saying my comment was "deliberately trying to sabotage the blog"? Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick.
No, no, not you, the thing that you quoted. This is not the first time that it has happened and it usually occurs when it thinks (if it isn't a bot) that the blog owner/moderators are sleeping.
If it makes you any happier, I have been censored many times for the same thing (quoting a disruptive influence). After being swatted on the nose with a rolled up newspaper often enough, I learned not to do it (and I have moderated several blogs myself, so I have sympathy for the moderators). Again, the deletion was not directed at you but at the comment that others may have quoted and started a bar brawl. (Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good bar brawl but some folk have more delicate sensibilities than I do.)
Moderating is not easy.
In the First War, as Prince Albert, he'd fought at the great naval Battle of Jutland (1916) - plenty of references online, even the in the Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/future-king-left-the-sick-bay-to-fight-at-jutland-698774.html I calculate he would have been 19 at the time.
Also his first-hand account of the fight is there. The Indie makes the point that he was the first king since William IV to have seen battle - not surprising as Victoria could hardly have gone to war in the Crimea and there were no European wars during the lifetime of Edward VII.
David, Prince of Wales Edward VIII
From:
https://www.historyextra.com/period/first-world-war/how-war-scarred-the-playboy-prince/
"Edward (sic)pushed the boundaries, using every opportunity to visit the front lines and, ultimately, was able to get moved to a position nearer the front. Assigned to staff work on logistics, Edward now had an excuse to be in dangerous locations and believed it important that he shared in what ordinary soldiers were going through; he visited advanced positions and found himself under shell fire in front-area dug-outs many times.
A British officer, Alan Maciver, serving at a dangerous front position, recalled how they had “not seen anyone from divisional headquarters for six weeks… The only really senior commander, senior officer, I ever saw, top officer, during this period, was the Prince of Wales who had insisted on being taken up to the front line.” During the battle of Passchendaele, Edward recalled: “I got the most vivid close-ups of the horrible existence that had become the lot of the British soldier.”
Prince Philip: war record
Try https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/dec/28/monarchy.davidsmith for starters.
Camilla, Catherine and their coats
The loyalty of the armed forces is consciously focussed on the Crown, embodied in the Monarch, even though they have to enact Government policy. This is an important part of our unwritten Constitution, which I learned as an Army wife.
The Royal Cols in Chief and so on are rather like the old clan chiefs of the Highlands; this triangular relationship is deemed to be a safeguard against a military coup. We could be in a very different place were they expected to direct their loyalty to, say, any of the unpopular figures we've seen in Parliament over the last few years.
Both Camilla and Catherine, I believe, were expressing their understanding of their role in supporting the Armed Forces
It might even be seen as a message to H - `We deplore how you behaved as a member of the military. We choose the Armed Forces, not you.'
Sorry for being unclear. I've been measuring, sketching, and preparing to start demolition to turn two small bedrooms into one larger bedroom to accommodate my in-laws in their 90s. They are becoming too prone to falling to be living way out alone in a rural area far from help (they live four hours away). They do not want to give up their independence but the CNA that does home health visits called to let brother in law know that they shouldn't be alone anymore.
In laws do not want to give up their independence, husband and his dad never got along, but something must be done before one of them falls and does a fatal injury to themselves.
*sigh*
My next thought was `Is she marking the Second War by wearing a dress made of old blackout curtains?'
It looks like the big piece of sateen that my mother kept for years after 1945!
Third thought - is the mingey little bunch of flowers a way of telling PC to send more money?
I found the pic of Harry and his wife looking like a crow beside him, surrounded by white grave stones, with photographer for PR in tow, extremely creepy. That didn't look like a tribute to the fallen at all. It was just sinister.
These two just send shivers down my spine. There is something deeply wrong about them.
Thanks for clarifying :)
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Quite agree. Pathetic. Of course Handbag is whinging because his request was denied by the courtier. So what do they do? Use Remembrance as a photo op. Disgusting vile behavior. News for you Handbag, you and your Odious wife no longer represent Her Majesty The Queen, nor the Royal Family.
I agree completely about the crow - a carrion feeder circling, waiting for H to drop so she can pick his bone?
If there was a thought bubble over her, would it say `I've already got the dress for your funeral - now you must do the decent thing...'
Or, is this an audition photo for a part in the next Hammer horror production? `The Crow Widow'?
And old broken-hearted Harry polished up his medals to wear with his blue suit.
So the self-pity train has left the station once more. They will bleat about this all week.
They dont like the UK, or the British people, yet they are moved to remember the British war dead. Its pretty obvious this was an attempt to hang on to those Commonwealth Trust titles. Aside from bringing the photographer along, they found the graves of two Commonwealth soldiers (no easy feat in an American veterans cemetery, one would think) to honor with their paltry offerings.
Riddle: If the Harkles do a "good deed" and no photographer is there to catch that deed, did it really happen?
Answer: Trick question. Since they wouldnt do any good deed without a photographer, they have actually never done a truly "good" (unselfish) deed.
I think this is Harry cracking. He doesn't want to give up his Royal life, clearly.
Royals are doing this as the highest duty and honour. This is the only occasion the Queen bows her head. They honour every single fallen soldier who fought for their country.
Harry is doing this as sulking and PR declaration. After finding two persons from the Commonwealth in the cemetery full of fallen American soldiers. Don't they all deserve a sign of respect? Why emphasise just the two? Should have been for all of them. Another false note.
Feel the difference as they say.
"Royals are doing this as the highest duty and honour. This is the only occasion the Queen bows her head. They honour every single fallen soldier who fought for their country.
Harry is doing this as sulking and PR declaration. After finding two persons from the Commonwealth in the cemetery full of fallen American soldiers. Don't they all deserve a sign of respect? Why emphasise just the two? Should have been for all of them. Another false note.
Feel the difference as they say."
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Wow, Fairy. You just perfectly summed up what is so wrong with this incident in general and the Sussexes in particular.
If you go through the photographer's Twitter engagement he is a foul-mouthed idiot.
This is all getting rather stupid now isn't it.
So much for the Rota!
Where did H&M get their poppies? Sent from the UK? And Harry moved to California with his medals?! It's all a bit sad really.
We wear our poppies in remembrance of our dead veterans on Memorial Day, the last Monday in May.
Oddly, I do not recall her dragging a photographer after her for a photo op while laying a bouquet at any of the National Cemeteries on Memorial Day. Thousands of people do it quietly every year without trying to make a buck off of dead veterans. But not them, oh, nooooo.
like Michele Obama is KH Markle's next stalking target?
Meghan is pitiful.
Meghan needs to brush up on her American History.
If this Remembrance day PR in LA was also shot by the Netflix crew via documentary video I think Netflix is in for a PR nightmare of epic proportions. I imagine they are doing a 'life in LA being ex-Royal documentary' and they could have gotten away with it IF they had STFU this year.
She is a PR overdrive nightmare. There is such a thing as overexposed.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have been branded "attention seeking" after releasing pictures from a private Remembrance Sunday visit to a Los Angeles cemetery.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex visited the Los Angeles National Cemetery to mark the occasion.
They placed flowers picked from their garden at the graves of two Commonwealth soldiers, royal biographer Omid Scobie tweeted.
So now it's s a 'private' visit (which is why they were photographed). And they picked flowers from their garden. Is this in a bid to make themselves more popular or could they not make it to a florist?
And they walked hand in hand. Yet again, that was neither the time nor the place.
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1325534786492968968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1325536594338701314%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailystar.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flatest-news%2Fprince-harry-meghan-branded-attention-22978418
https://tinyurl.com/y34a79bc
It's not like you really going to need a purse in a cemetery, is it?
She did manage to wear black this time, versus the navy blue that she just had to wear one of the other times.
My apologies, I've just realised that you posted the same info, Chris Ship's twitter.
Here's the end of ITV write up:
The images were taken by a professional photographer, Lee Morgan, on behalf of Harry and Meghan and released to ITV News by their office.
Neither the Queen’s grandson, Prince Harry, nor her son Prince Andrew, were at the Remembrance Sunday service at the Cenotaph this year because they have both quit their roles since the last event in 2019.
Ouch. Lol. It's funny they are bunched in with Andrew forever.
Wanna bet they didn't get one?
Somebody should FOIA that.
In the photographs Megalo released she is not bowing her head.
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I noticed that too!
And in the photo where they are wearing their masks (making sure they prove they are covid-prevention responsible), Meghan looks as if she is angry with what appears to be a scowl on her face...furrowed brow / upturned eyebrows. I can just hear her scolding and correcting Hazza about the correct method of flower laying in the US!
I am so sorry for your loss.
I share your disgust
I cannot find the words to express how disgusted I am. My husband is buried in one of our national cemeteries. That they would use the final resting place of our veterans for a photo op is beyond comprehension.
I know. I am beyond disgusted and into deep contempt territory.
Please Americans tell us you will not hold us Brits responsible for this insult.
*I thought his IQ might be around 80 but I can see that I was overly generous.
My father, grandfather and uncles served proudly and well, three are at rest in military cemeteries, as are the husbands of two friends. If I saw these two monsters, these self centered useles whinging posing hucksters, posing over their graves with their photographers and handful of weeds, they would rue the day forever. Forever. I cannot imagine they had permission.
I am livid on your behalf, Midge, all of our arms from around the world are around you tonight.
This pathetic pantomime with the medals clipped to his suit, like cheapened attention-seeking jewelry (is he even allowed to do so?) proves that this man is the biggest fool, puppet or idiot we are likely to see. He ignored the Deal event, tossed the welfare of Invictus in the dirt, but obediently rushes out with his narcissist boss to stick a middle finger yet again at the Queen et al while puffing up their photo collection for Netflix or a run for office. Neither of the, give a good god damn about those who served, or the dead.
That he stood in a room pinning those ribbons onto his useful hollow lying deserting self for this travesty, for this bid for PR, to please his cheap joke of a wife, and to boo hoo his way into more cash from Charles — strip them now, BRF, strip them now. Now. They have crossed the line in the sand by yards. She is a mentally sick woman actually sitting around stewing up ways to abuse and mock the hearts of the British, and he is a worm, honorless, trying t pretend for Netflix and budget photographer that he is again some victim instead of the disturbed shameful fire-starter he is.
After the composure, true emotion, honor and respect of today’s actual ceremony with the BRF, tears in Charles’s eyes, the Queen visually aching, Catherine poised as if to show the strength and resolve and grief of the entire monarchy......this. F*** them both.
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Article mentions that they sought out graves of deceased Commonwealth military from Canada and Australia. (The Queen MUST strip them of their Commonwealth roles). However, both Canada and Australia honor their war dead on November 11. The preceding Sunday Remembrance Day is unique to the UK.
And the US honours their war dead on Memorial Day in the spring and Veteran's Day on Nov 11.
So no one from Canada, Australia or the US would be following this. (Especially with the US election occupying the media in North America).
So who was the target audience here? If not for their Netflix special, then the target would be the UK. Do they really not understand how despised they are and how this posing can only make it worse?
Article said that the flowers were from their garden. Those are clearly hydrangeas, which stopped blooming 2 months ago.
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@Mel
Some types of hydrangeas do bloom into the fall, especially in CA. I think all panicle types do. And there's one that look's like a mophead that also blooms late. I think it's possible they did come from their garden as I think I remember some similar hydrangeas in a vase in one of their zoom videos.
I apologize for my rant above, and typos therein. I wrote it fast in a rage.
Meant his “useless hollow self” not useful. Etc.
I truly cannot believe this.
The consensus is that even by Markle standards, this is a new low. I wish that the DM and other UK papers had refused to accept these photos for publication.
Nothing else makes remote sense whatsoever, except for the fact she is truly evil. Clearly.
....there are one o two small dedicated British cemeteries for war dead in the state of North Carolina, US, one in the Outer Banks (a beautiful coastal stretch of seashore and islands. Every May since WW2, Britain sends an official military envoy to the cemetery, as do Canada and America. An official service of honor is held, and meanwhile the islanders and Coast Guard maintain this little plot of land in pristine, respectful condition under some lovely shade trees surrounded by flowers on a quiet road. (The men lost were from a British ship, the Bedfordshire, attacked off the North Carolina shore one night by a German U-boat. The islanders buried the bodies that washed to shore.) The land was given to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
That these two frauds think they can enact some sort of clumsy one-off faux British ceremonial, holding hands! — no, you are not needed. Go back to your tacky 16-bathroom bolthole, you pointless junk merchants. You are not worthy to step on or near any of these graves.
Agree with all you have written here. And yes, this is beyond showy narcissism. This was evil.
Netflix is not doing itself any favors by having these two in its "stables".
Tourre says in part, “so they are literally working with a pap who sells their image IN A CEMETERY for big bucks to anyone who pays. Making big dollars out of pictures taken IN A CEMETERY.” Emphasis his.
“Not taken today. Very high winds.”
............and I thought we could not be more disgusted..Taken early to photoshop, merch up, then drop in tabs for victim effect.
Utter trash.
And even though I'm an American, I'll be looking up Wed night in honor of all who served.
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Think they are in the LA National Cemetery. There are two CW WWII fallen buried there. One from Canada and one from Australia.
https://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/losangeles.asp
AnT: said "He is as appalled as we are, and notes these images are appearing in all the tabs they said they no longer work with."
Just last week, that "expert" Lacey was telling us how the couple admitted to lying about the birth of Archie because of the "insane and lethal" cameras that killed Diana.
Here we are one week later and they are posing for the very papers that they swore never to work with in their "Sussex Royal Manifesto"... the same lethal newspapers..
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/search-results/?Surname=&Forename=&Initials=&ServiceNum=&Regiment=&WarSelect=2&Cemetery=LOS+ANGELES+NATIONAL+CEMETERY&CountryCommemoratedIn=null&Unit=&Rank=&SecondaryRegiment=&AgeOfDeath=0&DateDeathFromDay=1&DateDeathFromMonth=January&DateDeathFromYear=&DateDeathToDay=1&DateDeathToMonth=January&DateDeathToYear=&DateOfDeath=&Honours=null&AdditionalInfo=
Any thoughts from anyone for why they are back to hand holding? We have not seen any touching since they moved to the USA.
Is this something that she does just to annoy the Brits?
As usual, she didn't do her research. Both Canada and Australia do their Remembrance Day ceremonies on Nov 11 and not on the Sunday before as they do in the UK.
She can't even get pretend Commonwealth princess right.
I wish that the Queen would strip them of all Commonwealth roles. As a Canadian, it is insulting for the Queen to dump these two on us.
There's an @MeghanMarkle joined July 19, 2020 It has 8 followers but I have not tried to follow at this point. so i'm not sure if it's actually her. There another MrandMrsMeAgainMarkle too. LOL
This is so insulting and infuriating of them both to use anyone's grave to promote themselves. This is like they both think every idea they have is so high and mighty above us, and that it's perfectly fine to ride Diana's coffin, and now the fallen veterans' graves as a vehicle to their own selfish means to garner attention and project feigned sympathy. Sick!
This is a sicker move than Harry wearing that Nazi uniform!
If they put flowers on my family members graves I'd demand they be removed immediately and if she was anywhere near me I'd want to slap her face off.
They didn't just remove the comment.. they blocked me. It is the only time that I have ever left a comment there so it's not as if I was trolling them.
Very bizarre.
Do you see this as a prelude to seriously setting up a rival court in the US, since all their other games failed?
Hand-holding to warn the BRF they are still a package deal — you don’t get him back unless rain money and mansions on her?
Or because she sees him cracking?
"As usual, she didn't do her research. Both Canada and Australia do their Remembrance Day ceremonies on Nov 11 and not on the Sunday before as they do in the UK.
She can't even get pretend Commonwealth princess right."
Thanks, Louise. I did not know that. M may have discovered that though. But what good would it do to do this on Wed? It wouldn't compete with the UK Sunday ceremonies. (Pretty sure that was the point. In fact, some of us wondered last week what M would do today. But even if it wasn't the point, there may not be a UK service person buried in LA. These 2 were the only CW ones in that cemetery of 90,000 graves.)
As usual the Harkles are leaving no stone unturned to find a way to pr- i.e. notoriety. Wonder what their next move will be?
Don't forget that Harry and Markle humiliated themselves on a visit to Ireland by referring to it as a Commonwealth country.
And that was when they had an entire team to brief them.
But, yes, I agree that even if she did know that there was no interest on her part to do this on a Wednesday.
It just infuriates me that she pretends to care about the Commonwealth, when in reality it is the only remaining designation that makes her appear to be "royal"
Dear Elizabeth: TAKE THE COMMONWEALTH DESIGNATION AWAY FROM THESE TWO PARASITES.
(Sorry for yelling.)
I agree! Isn't the "any attention is good attention" part of the narcissistic profile?
Plus, the.. you know.. FU to the RF and the UK.
I LOVE your avatar pumpkin. One of the funniest skits I have ever seen
But they know that most Americans don't understand the role of the Monarchy, so they can try to sell the Americans any bill of goods, including the pretense that they are still Royal. Maybe she wants an invite to Biden's inauguration in the princess category.
I mean, she even wore her "royal uniform" to the cemetery, including those ridiculous stilettos and the all black coat and dress. She hasn't dressed like that since she left the UK in Nov of last year.
I don't know exactly what to make of the hand holding.
Meghan wore these gorgeous pumps from Jennifer Chamandi for a 2020 event. She also owns them in two-tone. Jennifer Chamandi's 'Lorenzo' pumps have the designer's signature needle stiletto, which she says "creates the curve of the foot and the sway to the hips." This pointed pair has been made in Italy from smooth black leather and is detailed with a slender buckled strap which can be removed...... etc
And that's what Remembrance Day means to her.
(Only $1582, by the way)
Meghan doesn’t have real followers, so it would be surprising if she made any money off of Meghan’s Mirror referral purchases.
My guess is she is getting free merch, which she is of record previously hunting down and doing, putting it up on her MM Mirror site and selling the faked (bot script) analytics for future merch opportunities and ‘clients’ that think this advertising works.
She ‘proves’ viewership to the product with the analytics and PR record (images in X many papers, dailymail tab etc)....
No real person goes to Meghan’s Mirror to actually shop. It’s a big faked Ad cycle for Meghan’s benefit. If the client is dumb enough, Meghan might be squeezing a bit of payment out of them, along with the shoes. There’s a reason she is marching these ‘Royal’ look-a-like events. And it’s disgraceful (it’s the only things brands would engage with)
I’m married to an Ad exec. I know how these things work.
I hope she’s enjoying her ‘free’ shoes. Lmao. Goodness how the mighty ‘Royal’ have fallen.
I do have a question though... some of the items come up on the site repeatedly. I presume that she only receive one Cartier watch. Does she have to promise to wear it a certain number of times?
Also, perhaps I misunderstood one point that you made, but Meghan's Mirror has been advertising all the non Royal LA looks that she wears, as well... shorts, jeans, etc
She just dusted off the Royal look today so that she can compete with the Real Royal Wives.
Lousie, glad to help! I have not looked into the site, but yes she would receive ONE item and have a contract to merch it X number of times. With truly famous people it is usually only once. This tells me her value is not very high or her offer is not very convincing which is why they would only agree to the deal if she wears the object in ‘public’ multiple times. (I use quotations because if she didn’t arrange the photogs herself we would never see her)
This is the business model she engaged in prior to Harry and she kept her businesses rolling even while in the RF. It’s not very profitable but would explain her constant need to be in the paper everyday. She has marching contracts to fulfill.
This girl is just a ‘for-sale’ grifter of epic proportions. The fact Harry doesn’t get it and thinks her skills are valuable is beyond me. That guy is old money. . He says she works so hard. Now we know why: it’s hard for her to make money.
I guess he doesn’t care that she still makes him look like an idiot publicly. When will Harry care....
Most would just be ‘gifts’ like she used to get at the awards parties and swag rooms.
Posting them to her site and buying fake views gives her a portfolio of fake engagement to sell brands with bigger pockets like high-profile ‘Royal Look’ days like today. Today obviously gets more PR than say, Harry’s zoom the other day...
Remember all Meghan thinks is she has to be mega famous at all times to make money. She can’t get sponsorship deals like Serena. She’s low low level and clearly incredibly insufferable. At least now we can pin down a method to her madness.
If this is also for a Netflix documentary, then it makes even more sense from a brand merching perspective.
The truth is that she cannot have social accounts because she doesn’t have a real following, that and her following would be abysmal. Add to hit, the negative environment it would be due to blowback from her actions. No Brand would go near her on any social media channel.
So, here we are: an $$$ explanation for all of Meghan’s very evil and manipulative antics all to sell small-time brands on fake views. The money is not enough, so it’s a daily thing. It’s a massive relentless daily PR churn for these purposes. She doesn’t care how it makes Harry look, and now that Harry doesn’t have BRF $$$ what else is he going to do yet support his boss and handler ‘Meghan, the low brow merch Queen’ lmao. It’s incredible, really. Haha. Harry can always go home and I think he deep down knows this.
The levels she has to go ‘railing against social media’ to try to prove a point and pull one over on brands is hilarious. Somewhere along the way someone told her social media doesn’t even make money anymore (compared to years ago) and emails are the marketing way-to-go, hence her swift appearance of Archewell. She was trying to sell someone else with that data.
Sunshine Sachs is not involved in this. ITV stated that Meghan and Harry sent them the story and photos.
Omid ran the story on his Twitter. Omid owes Meghan and has to do this. She made him a lot of money through Finding Freedom. If he doesn’t comply she will ruin him in court. They are both deeply in $$$ bed together. That won’t change. Too much dirty laundry. Meghan will make the case go away, she has too.
Blogger Jdubya said...
So i am exploring other options to FB and was suggested both MeWe and Parler - i have joined both and trying to learn them. I am putting in names of members and.........No MM or H or MeWe that i can find but.....
There's an @MeghanMarkle joined July 19, 2020 It has 8 followers but I have not tried to follow at this point. so i'm not sure if it's actually her. There another MrandMrsMeAgainMarkle too. LOL
Funny you should mention that. I went to daughter's FB page as I was curious as to what she would do (I don't have a FB account because I find Zuck to be incredibly creepy) but I DO have the password to hers and comment occasionally). She left a KMA message to FB along with her new parler address for her friends. She got hundreds of replies with THEIR new parler and MeWe (?) addresses. I tried to sign up today but apparently they were slammed. I've had an account at Gab since it first came out BUT family and friends were stuck on FaceFarce so long that I've forgotten my password.
FB is mostly for older folk now, I believe. It is incredibly uncool for kids to be on the same media platform as their grandparents (grin).
I guess he doesn’t care that she still makes him look like an idiot publicly. When will Harry care....
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This is something I have wondered about since the beginning.
And the question has been on my mind even more so since viewing all those photos of MM controlling him with The Claw.
People have been making fun of Hazza since early in the relationship. Even before they married, folks were calling him whipped and dumb for falling for her obvious charade. I would read thousands of cringeworthy negative comments in the DM and be simply amazed that a high profile person would continue in a relationship that was making him look like a fool! And a royal fool no less.
I was certain he would break up with her and was amazed he went through with the wedding. How could a man stay with a woman who has made him look like a complete idiot in front of the entire world? And how could a woman be attracted to a man who allows her to dominate him, take advantage of him and make him look utterly foolish?
Their relationship is just totally cringeworthy and bizarre.
@Sally1975
Andrew served in the military for 22 years, starting in 1979. I think at the time there was no PR like now and what was reported was what happened (in my opinion). I don't think the press tried to big him up.
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Thanks, Maneki. That makes sense!
The idea that his military career may have earned him a more favorable place in his mother's heart is intriguing. I will have to read up on it a bit.
@Sally1975 maybe your British cousins can fill you in with Andrew and his time spent in the Navy better than we can?
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LOL - I don't have any British cousins - you must be thinking of someone else!
But thanks anyway!
Their relationship is just totally cringeworthy and bizarre.
I suppose it could be that he really IS that stupid, or it could be that he is also butthurt because he is not lauded with praise for merely existing, or he could be eeeevil and wants to see the world burn. Maybe he got a head injury playing polo one too many times. Probably a combination of any or all of the above.
That or Harry is totally in on it, letting Meghan get some $$ and do what she wants because she is going too anyway with or without him, and he will rejoin the BRF when he is bored of it?
He doesn’t seem to care much, if at all. I think he is smarter than Megs, and at least has a trust fund family to rejoin once he tires of her. Otherwise I really have no idea why he wants to engage the world this way. If it comes down to his obsession with her, I guess it makes sense. It just looks insane. He seems happy or desperate to keep her appeased and it looks like he could care less about the negative publicity. If they are seeeing $$ off their antics via small merch deals, maybe he finds solace in making money off the ‘big bad press’. I’m reaching here. It would make sense why he respects her ‘game’ though.
He’s just as selfish as she is.
Yes it could be a combo of them all - plus throw in some 'Markle narcissistic mind control', a pinch of low self-esteem, and perhaps a splash of untreated depression and it's a recipe for a Hazza-disaster!😢
The man admits to reading the DM comments. Those comments alone would have been enough to send me running for the hills. Maybe she hypnotizes him. 🤣
It sure is a puzzle.
My guess is she is getting free merch, which she is of record previously hunting down and doing, putting it up on her MM Mirror site and selling the faked (bot script) analytics for future merch opportunities and ‘clients’ that think this advertising works.
The same clients that would happily buy her e-mail list, I suppose? Thanks for the insight, Jessica!
And I just saw photos of their "private," royal-wannabe Remembrance Sunday wreath-laying. My first thought: So Meghan can wear black for dead US servicemen but can only find navy blue for their British counterparts?
The response to the latest appalling stunt has generated what much be record comment here and I share the absolute disgust and anger that everyone else has expressed. Poking fun at the enemy is sometimes the only way I can deal with it in the first instance.
I was the youngest of the cousins on my father's side; now I'm almost the only one. 3 died in the war: 2 were RAF and crashed and one was a merchant seaman who died on a convoy. The narcs elder brother was incinerated in a tank in Normandy. All horrible deaths.
My father and another cousin flew together in a bomber crew and survived. Dad was one of the lucky ones, he'd also come through the First War in Flanders, as did his brother and 2 future brothers-in-law.
Mum was a bus conductress for her war work - her London Country Bus was strafed by a German plane outside the de Havilland aircraft factory. Her brother was a D-Day veteran.
Few spoke of their wartime experiences - it just `wasn't done'. None of this video-game gloating; any lethal effect of one's actions was regarded as a `sad necessity'.
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To explain Remembrance Sunday:
In the 1920s & 30s, it was Armistice Day, November 11th, that was solemnly observed, regardless of which day of the week it fell on. Come the Second War, this was deemed too disruptive (war production would have suffered) and the commemoration was moved to the 2nd Sunday in November.
It stayed like that, with the single date, until the 1990s, when the Royal British Legion campaigned for the original date to be honoured. We were in London (Sat.Nov 11th 1995) and heard the guns for the Silence.
It is very funny how incensed they get about the comment ‘hate’ that is directed at them. Everyone can see amoral and unethical activities from a mile away. I think the only reason they are mad is because it limits their $$ ability. :) should have tried harder.
Knowing her actual agenda here, how much would it hurt if someone figured out the brand/manufacturer of the coat and called for a boycott instead? People would still have to go to Meghan's Mirror to get it, so stats would go up somewhat, but having bad publicity elsewhere on social media might make brands think twice about working with her.
Coat: TBC, Black Button-Up Coat
Heels: Jennifer Chamandi ‘Lorenzo’ Heels
Bracelets: Cartier ‘Love’ Bracelet
Watch: Cartier Tank Francaise Watch
Dress: TBC, Black Dress
Belt: TBC, Believed to be Elisabetta Franchi
So nobody has admitted responsibility yet for the number made of blackout curtains? (Unless TBC is a brand and nor `to be confirmed?)
Is she `honoring' our civilians who died in the Blitz?
Thinking on from what Sally1975 said about a man who allows a woman to make a monkey out him (Gosh! Does that make her the Organ Grinder? Strange how the double entendres keep popping up...) - are any Nutties familiar with Robert Browning's poem `My Last Duchess'?
It features an Italian duke of the Renaissance talking about his first wife and how she humiliated him - and, reading between the lines, how he had her bumped off.
We should have learnt by now that there are no depths they will not plumb -
I’m absolutely appalled, and if this doesn’t kick the royal family into actually publicly doing something about them once and for all, then nothing will. :o(
@Sally1975, yes, I was hoping too that Harry wouldn't marry MM. I think that with another woman, someone like Chelsy, he would have been a much better man, and also much happier. MM has brought out the worst in him.
Did someone tell C what's what and it had to stop?
https://monstermarkle.tumblr.com/
I figured she was broke and this goes to show she is going into PR / Merch overdrive. I guess she’s giving up on her other antics unless she can zoom more clothes, etc. She wants to do appearances as long as she makes money on them. This was her big gripe in the BRF. She will continue faux royal event gestures.
It’s disrespectful, but since when did Meghan care.
Re: Meghan's latest brand partners
I was surprised to learn that Jennifer Chamandi is a British brand. Surely the people behind it know how unpopular Meghan is! Is this their way of expanding into the US market?
At this point, I think the only thing that will stop Meghan's merching is an obvious "markeling" of the profits or reputation of any brand that she wears.
Thinking on from what Sally1975 said about a man who allows a woman to make a monkey out him (Gosh! Does that make her the Organ Grinder? Strange how the double entendres keep popping up...) - are any Nutties familiar with Robert Browning's poem `My Last Duchess'?
It features an Italian duke of the Renaissance talking about his first wife and how she humiliated him - and, reading between the lines, how he had her bumped off.
In last month's predictions thread, we were wondering if Meghan would find a way to bump Fauxrchie off. As Harry's humiliations pile up (and you can bet he knew how that stupid wreath laying "ceremony" in LA looked), he may just snap and it could be Meghan who gets bumped off. He wouldn't be the first abused spouse to say that enough is enough -- and also not the first who has alcohol and drug problems.
If this happens, I don't know what the BRF would do. Find a way to make it look like an accident? (Would that be possible in the US, though?) Say that Archie had died, too, or bring in a full-time lookalike child -- the son of an understanding (and well-bribed) aristocrat -- to stand in for him when Harry returns to the UK? In any case, he wouldn't suffer any more consequences than Prince Andrew has.
Rant away, I’ll join you.
Agree that we do have high expectations regarding the Royal family.
I was never a fan of Andrew, he was well known for being the most arrogant Royal, I see Harry is the same.
I don’t believe that Meg had any intention of being part of the Royal family, it was just one long PR trip for her.
Harry has moaned and complained about everything and nothing since he met her.
Their latest stunt shows how low they are willing to go.
Meg is trying too hard to look solemn, she can’t even manage that.
Why did they think this was a good idea.
It’s time to put a stop to all their antics, remove the titles and tell Harry to pick a new surname not royal related.
Even if they're told to go with "Sussex" as a surname, I have a feeling that Meghan would just call herself "Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor" in all her press releases going forward. That Oppositional Defiance Disorder again!
I think she's after the Wales name.
Both Harry and William used that as a surname at school and in the services.
One thing I noticed in her latest pictures, she's not pregnant :)