It's been a while since I've written about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, but it's not because they've been idle.
They've launched their new Archewell website, released their first podcast on Spotify, and announced that they would not be re-establishing a social media presence - supposedly to protect their valuable content.
Regular articles are placed in the Daily Mail and the New York Post about the Sussexes' doings, in particular about their relationship with the portions of the Royal Family that have remained in Britain.
There's only one problem: nobody cares. The coverage is driven by supply, not demand.
Selling people something they don't want to buy
You can see it in the number of comments on Daily Mail stories about the Sussexes, which are way below the numbers attracted at the time of Megxit, which took place almost precisely one year ago.
Yet the bots play on, delivering new puff pieces about the Sussexes almost every day.
Presumably approved by the Sussexes themselves or their PR minions, they to sell the public on their own importance, while offering little that the people might really be interested in.
Photos of Archie? Rare, and usually obviously manipulated.
Tour of their current California residence? "You can see a wall or cabinet in the background of our umpteenth diatribe about social problems."
A view into their relationship? That's a staple of any reality program featuring a couple. But there's none of that, and the Sussexes could have collected a lot of sympathy with about the inevitable tensions between a culture from different countries and economic backgrounds.
But the PR people will continue writing something, anything, as long as they are paid to do so.
Coming soon
Coming in 2021 is Meghan's court case against the Daily Mail, a book from sister Samantha and a movie from her father Thomas, and the first episodes of the Sussexes' Netflix series.
Will any of them be enough to create more public interest in the Sussexes?
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P.s. I don't court replies because I don't need them. My currents posts are just an FYI
@SwampWoman,
Yes. About ten years ago I spent a year working on business development for two direct retail companies, one based in the US, one based in the U.K. In both instances, the age range of self-identified grandmothers (in our groups and surveys) was around 40 to 45.
Oldest granddaughter is engaged and may marry in June (depending on COVID -- they may wait until next year). I could be a great grandmother before I reach 65!
The services must know. Impossible that they don’t. Hope and pray, definitely.
Congratulations on your granddaughter’s upcoming wedding!
Trivia: I have a 51-year-old sister-in-law with 19 and 21-year-old daughters....and a final “surprise” 4-year-old son. I think of her whenever I view surveys now!
(Also, is this the real reason why Archie doesn't have a title- dual citizenship in the US?)
OMG JennS- the braid. LOL
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Watch for his next look!!!! Hazza makes frequent trips to the salon in Montecito!
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**@Swamp Woman
LOL at a beehive for Harry...with a ponytail coming out of the top - sort of like one of the hairstyles from the original Star Trek series!
I was thinking of what she implied sometime earlier, that MM was backed by some very powerful people, including ones known for being covert/underhand, who may or may not have official blessing - in a word, sp**ks.
To my mind, the balance of probabilities are shifting towards what I thought in the first place, that, knowingly or unwittingly, she is a pawn of those seeking to destabilise the UK in the name of internationalists/globalist plutocrats who do not hold with the concept of the nation state.
'Nuff said.
Btw, I can't seem to be able to call up anything recent from of Murky Megs - can someone help with a link to her latest videos please?
Here ya go!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtFgjP6EiDO9w5wKmLiQFXg
I wonder how much that costs Harry to insert Markle into US politics. The Harkles are pathetic and laughable!
Everyone knows Meghan has no style, at all.
@Jocelyn’sBellini’s, thanks for the Murky tip, will watch those videos. I sometimes think she and Lady C are closer to the truth than anyone. And Yankee Wally is running the Paula Tricky video again (in which the woman, Paula, describes Suitcase-era Megs as a single mother. I think something about children is about to escape the lockbox. Could this be it?
Just occurred to me: Megs is Suitcase to Suits to lawsuits, nothing more.
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@Not Meghan Markle, I think Harry has waded defiantly into US politics because that is his brief from his controllers and backers. Yes, I said what I said. For all we know, his weak father might well be part of it. Perhaps they need to chip off the prominent monarchies. I view William as the wild card, looking at his wife and children, and refusing to play along. I feel an iron spine exists in William, one we are soon to see.
The video links you want are found in Murky Meg’s Twitter feed — I just looked and they are there, you’ll see them.
"Why is Harry commenting on US politics? If he applies for a green card and then citizenship doesn't he have to give up titles? While holding his titles, and being close in line to the throne isn't it forbidden to get involved with another countries policies and politics?
(Also, is this the real reason why Archie doesn't have a title- dual citizenship in the US?)"
Re: Titles and US citizenship-- That's not why Archie doesn't have a title. US citizenship doesn't preclude titles except if serving in the federal government. Then approval of Congress is required to accept one while serving.
However, while not required to give up foreign citizenship (i.e., dual citizenship is permitted), a naturalized citizen must give titles up to take the oath to show he/she owes no allegiance to a foreign monarchy. That's the issue for Harry IF he wanted to become a citizen. (I doubt he does.) Archie has birthright citizenship so accepting a title isn't a concern. They aren't a concern for M either since she has birthright citizenship except if H's titles go, so do hers since they are only courtesy titles. If he has none, neither does she.
@Ant,
I agree that Lady C and Murky Meg are the best around. I'll take a look at Yankee Wally's latest. Thanks for mentioning it.
I keep going back to Lady C saying that The Harkles have powerful backers. Is she speaking of Sara Latham, who is tied to Hillary Clinton? Am I making a huge leap in judgement here?
The hugging......I forgot the inappropriate hugging (right through the start of the pandemic during her last U.K.appearances). Your decription of her Messica hugs as “sly, sexual” makes me think she feels she always has to be “on” to sell to potential customers. A hard to break yachting habit?
Since she somehow still seems to consider herself a delectable early 20s cupcake, along with her fantasy role as a young mother, I wonder what will happen as Hollywood reopens and the leading lady calls never come.
@Fifi LaRue,
....and Yahoo News says actress Jennifer Garner (America’s holy queen of mum’s) was seen wearing “Meghan approved” Vera sneakers. Trying so hard to make Meee into an influencer, it is pathetic. The sheer amount of money wasted on embarrassingly lame PR and stupid lawsuits is incredible. Either Charles is an idiot or her backers have a stupid gene, because this clunky Z-lister is long past fresh.
Your ponytail and braid work on Harry is sublime. Might I suggest a “Pregnant Fergie in White Sailor Dress at Polo with Boater Hat” Ponytail? Or, a try with the famous pert beribboned Olivia Newton John ‘Grease’ ponytail?
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,
Hmm. My guess for backers is more dire, but yes, supposedly might be HC adjacent. I think Sara Latham is soft cheese in that world. She is more like the woolly cardigan Hitler would lend to Mussolini.
Sorry that I've stepped on your toes. Yes, I've read all of your posts, but sometimes catching up with all of the posts, and remembering what everybody said is almost an impossible feat on this blog. I read and listen to so many Harkles sites to get different views of the same Harkles subject that is being discussed, that I can't remember where I've read what. My apologies.
I like your efforts here, and also like Murky Meg's contribution with her videos. She cuts right to the quick and says it in simple and very readable terms, as you do, but it's always good to read more than one view to get good overall news coverage.
I understand what you're saying about SL, and I suppose that we'll just have to see how all of this pans out. It's just in direct opposition as to what MM originally said- that the Harkles had nothing to do with FF. The Harkle and Scoobie lies to the court and to the public are slowly coming out now, and it doesn't look good for them.
I originally thought of Russian backing for the Harkles, but it could be the Clinton connection as the powerful backers. Could it be both? This is another one of the Harkle mysteries. Everybody have a good day/evening, depending on where you live.
I'm off to sit on the patio and watch the waves. I'll check in later.
PS Dinner is roast chicken! Lol!
If she's willing to treat aggrieved family members this way, what would she do to friends or business associates? You just know everyone that comes across her thinks this.
The Cambs have a new puppy (thanking her brother) and Pippa is preggers (reportedly).
I have a mental image that Ginge is being remotely controlled by “the mothership” (aka MM).
“Take me to your leader.” 😂
I originally thought of Russian backing for the Harkles, but it could be the Clinton connection as the powerful backers. Could it be both? This is another one of the Harkle mysteries. Everybody have a good day/evening, depending on where you live.
I'm off to sit on the patio and watch the waves. I'll check in later.
Interesting comment on the Clinton's. Absolutely *everybody* that was going to testify against them in important cases died under mysterious circumstances. But how did a couple of nobodies from Arkansas acquire so much power? It does make me wonder who is *really* in charge, and I'm pretty sure it isn't the obvious figureheads.
Meghan cannot sue the BRF. She would have signed a massive agreement to leave the firm baring her from suing them in exchange for their year of financing. This is common with severance packages. You can get the cash that you want/need when leaving an employer, but you have to give up any legal recourse. And as we know Meghan and Harry didn't need the small government provided Sovereign Grant, but the massive private Charles/Duchy payment. The BRF who helps Charles manage these funds would have lumped that into one deal.
That is an incredible find from the LSA font — thank you for sharing it here.
I for one think she will definitely have to go to trial. There are too many loose ends and unanswered questions, too many changing stories and missing evidence from M, for a summary judgment to be applied. This is no slam dunk. This a mess with new bits of evidence popping up weekly.
The MoS will never consent to a settlement even if Megs marches wailing up and down the Coast Village Road in Montecito with a bump the size of her dad. Why should they? I think MoS can sense she is going down as her privacy claims splinter. And — remember the tabs have thick files on MM they politely have been sitting on at the request of the BRF or the Queen herself. They know they have a juicy rat by the tail and they won’t let go.
Richard Eden is calling for Megs’ two patronages (The National Theatre, and the Association of Commonwealth Universities) to be immediately removed from her, saying she “did absolutely nothing” for them, and Edward and Sophie will do a much better job of it. The Express is boldly telling the story.
This is the sharp sound of the boards cracking away in the hull of the HMS Sussex. They’re done. The tabs will be fed their ex royal bones by year’s end.
@JennS,
That is an incredible find from the LSA font — thank you for sharing it here.
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No problem Ant. I've got some new Tea too but need a beak. I'll be back.
It is a very interesting copyright case now and many in media will be watching it. This is a dangerous edge of the wedge.
You make excellent points. And, didn’t we hear a rumor or gossip item that M had requested a settlement and had been rebuffed by the ANL lawyers? I think it cannot be stated often enough that she cannot merely drop the charges on her own. The party she is suing must agree to it. And again, why would they?
I cannot even imagine the public opinion if she attempted to sue BRF family members or employees for being witnesses, can you? It would be an outrage, a howler, a press field day all in one, and her reputation would be sunk even deeper.
She is a fool and she is walking the plank.
It's either Harry's or Charles' $$$ funding Markle's madness. And Markle is barking mad.
Dumb’ho
Megs the Arrivistecat
Promised to go in to bat
For her poor old father, dear
What she meant, was intent to smear
*Petrie Pan will get her comeuppance
When the court awards her tuppence
*Petrie- Urban Dictionary 😉
Cheers Nutties, summer finally arrived
sunning, & sipping sweet sherry Puds 🍷
Cui bono? My very first thought, way back, was `person or persons unknown', prepared to inflict damage on the UK in the pursuit of political objectives and personal gain. Not Moscow though.
I shall name no names. It's wisest to be cryptic.
Think means, motive and opportunity, also modus operandi.
Of course, this is pure speculation; if she's managed it all on her own, she's even worse than I thought.
Yeasterday’s News
Harry’s set to take a ride
On SS *Mother’s Pride
He really needs to raise his dough
Which is proving, very slow
Must be filling Megs with dread
She really kneads her daily bread
*UK loaf makers
Ooooh WildBoar!
I’m thinking your clue is in the method/action?
She can hardly dress herself properly,
can’t see her masterminding much
beyond Harry’s petrie!
I always felt M's own group (Soho House people, Marcus Anderson who is still MIA)>
And I wish people would quit referring to Omid Scobie as Scoobie Doo. Geez, i love Scoobie Doo (where are you) and it feels like an insult to the REAL Scoobie. LOL
Jdubya
How about Ovis Doo
Sheep Poo?
Wokaine on Moonshine
Where there’s a Will, there’s a way
I’m hoping he’ll make Hazzers pay
For all their slights, and their digs
And usurping of gigs
The RF will have the last say...
Jdubya or Bovid, which includes sheep
and goats, both can be milked, and fleeced!!
Their droppings only good for manure!
Petty Fools
Can’t wait for the palace petit four
To open their mouths, and the door
To what really went on
Between her friends, all anon
They’re ready to even the score
Hahaha, WildBoar, not thinking of sex!
My husband will agree!!
Initial thoughts, the partner stinks?
Fast Company= Pay for Play Quickies
Harry’s new game for the day
Fast Company, isn’t gaining much sway
It’s all rather bent
Like his missus intent
Curb the truth, and have her own way
Fast Company sounds like a lunch time brothel?
So, now that the Duo are no longer on social media...
I just saw where Rolling Stone is taking payments from those who want to be " cultural thought leaders" for an annual byline fee of $1500 (and also they will be vetted for the right kind of thoughts), just in case Lady Swampie you are thinking here is your chance!
I am sure MeMe is on the phone right now while standing of front of a mirror practicing for her cover pose--would it be burger girl, sexy mom, savior of all mankind, legal expert extraordinaire?
Not my partner stinks,
Mr Mistie will be mortified!
Sorry for the mishmash, so many
comments/articles to catch up on.
I'd say so - a gambler with a political agenda.
That's how I feel at times faced with the Harkles - we can use our minds and speak out but that's all.
WildBoar
Goliath was slain by a stone.
Keep faith, Megs, etc, day will come.
"Oh no, Dumbo, Peter Pan and Aristocrats banned for the under Sevens for racial stero typing.
Is there going to be a big black market for all the banned things, men in big raincoats hawking Dumbo and anti Harry litrature."
When Gone with the wind was temporarily pulled from HBOMax streaming in the wake of BLM concerns last summer, the sales blu-ray / dvd copies of the original film immediately went UP in value to extent that the cheapest copy on Amazon was $300 during those weeks.
It's settled down to affordable prices, but it's still in the range of 2-4 times more expensive than pre-BLM concerns.
Crumpet, you reminded me...
Plaitypus
Haz and his new ponytail
I’m waiting to see him unveil
The hair on Megs feet
Would make a perfect French pleat
The twat, with the plait, is unreal
A message from Prince Harry about the evils of social media:
https://jerseydeanne.com/2021/01/23/a-message-from-prince-harry-about-the-evils-of-social-media/
Copies of Pink Floyd - Dark side of the Moon
will be re-labelled, Fluid - Eclipse
My eyes are bad,
I read it as the evils of prince Harry 😉
"Seen from this perspective, it might be argued that the Ottomans’ decline set in early in the 17th century, precisely at the point when they abandoned the policy of ritually murdering a significant proportion of the royal family whenever a sultan died, and substituted the Western notion of simply giving the job to the first-born son instead. Before then, Ottoman succession had been governed by the “law of fratricide” drawn up by Mehmed II in the middle of the 15th century. Under the terms of this remarkable piece of legislation, whichever member of the ruling dynasty succeeded in seizing the throne on the death of the old sultan was not merely permitted, but enjoined, to murder all his brothers (together with any inconvenient uncles and cousins) in order to reduce the risk of subsequent rebellion and civil war."
You can understand their viewpoint! Being a member of the Imperial Family in Ancient Rome wasn't too healthy either! H should just be grateful he wasn't born into either of those families.
I think it was ANL who offered to settle right at the start, which would be their usual response. Meghan refused.
ANL settled with Harry when he sued them for that article, backed up by a letter, about how he had abandoned the army. Harry was wise to settle, but petulantly insisted that his submission to court be read aloud for the public. I wonder if Meghan was furious that he settled (an apology that probably did him more damage and a donation directly to Invictus Games), or if she encouraged him because she did not want him to spend millions on his court case (more for her), and basically, despite what she says, she does not mind if he looks like an idiot.
But it was Meghan who refused a settlement right at the start because she wanted a trial and/or because of her hubris. I guess both sides did not anticipate how much damaging information about Meghan would emerge.
I think Meghan is refusing to see outside her little bubble. What do you think it would take for her to wake up and do some serious introspection about herself? Or do you think that in years to come, there she will be, face frozen from too much plastic surgery, being interviewed by a very old Oprah, still prattling on the same old story in deluxe word salad?
Of course, she will always have stans, including in the media. Hitler was supported by millions of followers, and there are still dozens hiding in suburbia. She does not have the popularity of a Hitler or Kardashian, but she is not going to go away.
Quite a few posts back Nutty asked who Meghan influences. How dangerous is she?
Yes, the Kardashians promoted narcissistic materialism. They also seem to have some what I call American values deeply embedded in their character: hard work, professionalism, total commitment. Add to that an acknowledgement from the start that privacy was out of the window and they would need to have a team of good professionals that they actually listened to ...
And the Kardashians are a family at the end of the episode. They have drama out the wazoo but they care about each other, are in and out of each other's houses and business (and laugh all the way to the bank).
I've just read your post your post at 5.24am and it's is an excellent find. I don't think Meg can drop the suit against MoS/ANL. Didn't the MoS suggest to her to drop the case and she refused? So many twists and turns, I can't remember. So she had her chance and she blew it, greed was stronger.
I remember how some of Diana's letters to Hewitt were published in the press (small excerpts) and no one, Charles or the Queen, sued the papers, IIRC.
I hope Megsy will be forced to go to trial. This is a lesson she needs to learn, although I don't know if narcs can learn.
Puds, thank you.
Glad that you get it X
Not always sure?
X
"Didn't the MoS suggest to her to drop the case and she refused?
I don't remember that but as you say, there have been so many twists and turns.
Last spring the MoS did ask her to agree to remove all the extraneous accusations/quasi-charges such as "dishonesty" and "intentionally causing conflict with Thomas" as these were unrelated to the main charges. They wanted her to drop them and to forego the hearing because of COVID. Said they we wouldn't try to collect expenses from her. She refused. She lost and ended up on the hook for more than £50,000 of expenses for the MoS.
You are absolutely right, ANL was said to have offered to settle and Meee refused, thinking she would somehow get a dramatic amount of publicity and cash by pursuing,
But then, when the water was up to her thighs, and lawyers were strongly advising her she was in a mess, she had a change of heart and reportedly asked to drop the case or to settle, expecting a large quick sum and an apology. ANL, deep in nicely researched information by this time, promptly refused. They are thriving on the clicks and the knowledge they could even win this showdown.
Now the water is up over her chest, she is splashing around for delays, or a summary judgment, and trying to build frantic boohoo press as a tragic young mum with a kid who needs ten therapists. She is naturally still trying to threaten the royals, while hoping Warby falls for her gasps, all while she keeps her phone records and emails buried in a box of oversized dirty stilettos.
Even if ANL do not win on any count, they have a legitimate platform to dig for dirt and expose it! That will continue long after the trial has ended as they have been given so many leads to follow and have so much more material, and after the trial they can unleash it all.
I wonder if they have contracted a top author to write a book about this court case. I would.
"You are absolutely right, ANL was said to have offered to settle and Meee refused, thinking she would somehow get a dramatic amount of publicity and cash by pursuing."
I may be mistaken, but wasn't the supposed settlement offer from ANL before the suit was actually filed in the fall of 2019? Has there been an offer to settle once the case headed to court?
I think it was you who said above that it is quite common for an author to send a manuscript to the royals before publishing. This does seem to be the practice, but in reality I doubt any author expects the royals to fact check an entire manuscript. (Just from the few excerpts I have read there are factual inaccuracies in the book.) Perhaps the act of submitting the manuscript to the relevant royal and any feedback adds some kind of authority to the book and the author can use it to add an air of legitimacy.
I agree with you though that we assume that Sara Latham is going to throw Meghan under the bus and this may not be true. It might be the opposite and she might hope to work for them in the future or might even act as some kind of mole for them.
I've never heard about that before. Who is that A list actor? Is it known how much he received for his silence?
I don't think either side have spoken of a settlement once the case started in the courts. Even once she filed the suit with the courts she could have settled, as Harry had done, but there was no talk of settlement since the court case got underway.
There has been no official confirmation from Disney, but there has been no official denial either. Rumour is that Signourey Weaver was the actor who did the original voiceover.
It is more than that, it is about banning females from female sports. It is about banning females from sports scholarships. What was happening, before it was banned, was that males that were mediocre in sports were self-identifying as females, and then genetic males were winning races, tennis matches, etc. and getting the scholarships to college.
Black women are especially up in arms about this and feel betrayed. This means that there will be no more Venus and Serena Williams in women's tennis. This means that there will be no more Flo Jo's (Florence Griffith Joyner's) in track and field events. Instead, there will be "females" with the given name of Blake or Travious or Miguel now rejoicing in female nom de plumes and sportscasters saying "And look how Bambi, formerly known as Blake, left the field behind and established herself as the new fastest woman on earth!"
*sigh* Maybe it is sexist for women to have our own sporting events because we cannot physically compete with men.
Great point. ANL would have a serious lot of material for a book or — a documentary!
I am trying to dig up the references and links for what I recall reading about the offers to avoid, drop or settle from each side, to make sure I am not confusing the details.
BTW, Do you think that she, lacking accountability and used to getting what she wants, assumes that it is now all just a bore that “someone” will sweep away or pay for? So she can focus on other goals? What will she say if Warby pushes on to trial?
I posted earlier before reading your post and you're right, MoS/ANL tried to settle, not tried to get MM to drop the case. I wasn't sure/couldn't remember. Of course, she knows better and thought suing would be a quick route to £££ 💷 💷 💷. I hope Warby can separate the wheat from the chaff and decide on a full trial.
Meghan infiltrated herself in the royal family like a pro. She secured the ring without delay and was granted some perks Kate could only dream of within a couple of years through the relationship. We don’t know how, but it happened.
After the lavishing expensive wedding though everything seems to go downhill. It’s mess after mess. In your face kid of mess. You can’t unseen or ignore it. Take my case, for example. I live in another country, another continent, not part of the Commonwealth, english is not my language. I didn´t knew Philip or Edward even existed until a few years ago. I thought the Queen’s husband was the king, and since there was no king, I always assumed he died before my time. Here where I live, the british royal family is nothing but small footnote in news (except Kate and William wedding, that was huge). My husband wouldn't recognize the Queen if he saw her face to face. And yet, in spite of all, I wasn’t able to avoid their freak show and I can only imagine how ennerving their antics are to the good people on GB.
My point can be ilustrated by the last Christmas Card. It's so obvious that child can not be Archie. If Archie doesn't exist, why didn't they try to find a suitable replacement? If Archie does exist, why replace him for an older child in the Christmas Card? It’s just bizarre.
I've been wondering why their shenanigans are so absurd, offensive even, and it occured to me that is exactly the point. Everytime they open their mouths or do something, anything at all, they manage to belittle, to diminish, to taint the monarchy. It’s the only thing consistente about them.
There is no aspect of their much publicized life that is straightforward. And if their mischievious atitude does nothing to improve their reputation or their finances, it does wonders to discredit and corrode monarchy’s public support.
We cannot forget that Lady C claimed she was offered 250 thousand pounds for a mere TV show suggesting that the heir of some throne is not ideal to the task. Surely there is a market for Meghan’s priceless achievements amongst those who will benefit from political and institutional instability in GB. I don’t doubt at all she is receiving a lot of cash through Netflix and Spotify.
I really really think the British people ought to open their eyes before it’s too late.
Where are witnessing a crime against humanity. Sports is the least of our problems. We are about to flush down the toilet achievements that generations that precede us fought hard for. Achievements that don't belong to us, that are supposed to be passed for those who will come after us. What's going on is unspeakable and I'm glad I don't have children.
Americans often miss English humor or true feelings owing to the supreme understatement which is practiced as a norm
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I found this to be true amongst the Irish also. I was taken by an Irish born boyfriend to meet his mother. Typically when an Irishman takes you to meet his mum, you are in like Flynn.
I wish I had known that golden nugget at the time, lol.
When we were sitting together, she asked me if I would like a cup of tea. I asked if she happened to have some coffee made. If not, don't go to any trouble, sure I'll take tea. Thank you kindly.
Oooof that sparked a family drama. Turns out I was too Yank for him and since I was his second yank, ahh no thanks, we can't accept her.
I laugh about it today and thank you God I missed that boat. So yeah, we Americans are much less formal and free speaking.
Since I was not raised in the American main stream, I too find a lot of Americans loud and brash. I'm sure I come across that way (when defending my honor!) but I'm typically mild mannered. My bravado comes from y'all not really knowing me. The shadow self, when integrated with our other good traits is not always a bad thing. Key word=integrated...
But I don't really think this is Meghan's real problem. She's just a first class ass.
At least she's first class in some department.
I am a typical old school person who feels it's weird as hell and I don't like it. If someone wants to change gender, fine do it and live in peace but don't compete in sports as your new assigned gender.
We Natives have what we call a Two Spirit. I get the metaphorical analogy; female Two Spirits fought along with men in battles as warriors and then went home as wives and female members of the tribe. Some were fluid. It's different now. There is no way in hell I want to share a toilet with a galoot man. Beside, I find lady's rooms much cleaner. I'll leave it there...
Good day Nutties, I'll bounce out of here.
I echo Puds: very good points, in both your posts. I agree. Regarding Meghan, William, at least, needs to keep his eyes wide open.
Many thanks for your post about no settlement being offered. It makes a lot of sense.
So, you think Meghan was expecting to be offered a settlement (apology and money to be laundered through the defunct Sussex Royal Foundation) that she could then smugly brandish as a victory?
I will stock up with popcorn for the show of the year - the release of the Kraken!
I do make my feelings known about the Harkles but they do not occupy my time as I have no need to prove my sleuthing abilities to anyone for acceptance. I know who I am.
Thanks Nutties!
Thank you for that timeline. I am finding some points I thought existed were based on hearsay, and seemingly poor reporting.
I did find something interesting though which you probably know but I hadn’t realized — an article about the case posted on thekit.ca says that Megs originally was presenting all the “they are mean to me” side complaints to the court as a reason for her to seek “exemplary damages” from ANL. She was, in other words, seeking a much larger than usual amount of damages payout ostensibly to punish the tabs and set an example, per a Dr Wragg at the university of Leeds who focuses on libel law.
When all those side claims were tossed out and the poor-little-me posturing was pushed aside as irrelevant to the case, which Warby said would be solely decided on the matter of privacy, the possible cash value of the case for Megs plummeted dramatically. It is now just an idiotically expensive train wreck for her, while it makes nice money for ANL.
I have repeatedly read that the normal amount of potential damages to be paid to the victor in such a case is quite small in the U.K. courts. A few thousand of pounds perhaps. I think M was seeking millions as if in an American court. Maybe she finally realized her error, and thus the waffling and delays began.
The article is not the best, using the Daily Mail instead of the MoS for example, but a few points from Wragg are interesting:
See: https://thekit.ca/life/royal-report/harry-and-meghan-lawsuits-daily-mail/
"@AnT
I think it was ANL who offered to settle right at the start, which would be their usual response. Meghan refused.
ANL settled with Harry when he sued them for that article, backed up by a letter, about how he had abandoned the army."
It's standard practise for the news organisations to settle if they don't have a strong case, but we don't know if any such offer was made to Meghan.
Given MoS's editor Tom Verity's very confidently worded court submission where he gives his reasons for publishing the story, it seems very unlikely that they offered any settlement from the outset or at any time at all.
It's known fact that the MoS editorial team uses copyright lawyers ahead of any articles they publish which is why they have rarely lost any cases brought against their team plus their articles are perceived to be true rather than tabloid sensationalism. For anyone in the public eye, you don't want a story about you in the MoS because of that perception.
Harry's article was published by the editorial team on the DM online which is quite different from the MoS editorial team. Dm online can be sloppy and aren't always as meticulous as their counterparts on MoS. They are routinely sued and settle cases because of that sloppiness.
IIRC (can't find original article), DM online settled because they claim there were verifiable administrative reasons why Harry didn't respond to the Military General's letter though they acknowledged they didn't dig deeper to check their veracity.
The thrust of the article rested on the absence of a communicated response to letter from General and his skepticism at Harry's ability to do the job when he lives in California.
It didn't go into detail about the various times Harry has visibly chosen something else over the military.
In that lawsuit, Harry's side must have demonstrated strong administrative efforts that the DM didn't bother trying to verify them. A weak case in the face of evidence. A settlement, but one on their terms.
It's important to note that Harry and Meghan keep suing the publishers of the Daily Mail in the hopes of tarring / bringing down entire organisation, but in reality they end up in court with whichever branch published the offending article.
Each branch has it's own editorial team, standards, styles, audience and reputation etc and are treated as independent branches of the same family. They share articles, but it doesn't always mean that everything that appears in the DM (print edition), DM online, MoS edition will appear in the other branches.
To that end, the case of the letter is being defended by the MoS which is the branch that published it and the case of the abandoned military was defended by the DM online.
That new hair styling! Little Orphan Harry crossed with Carrot Top?!
I burst out laughing and made our dear napping cat jump. Oh my goodness. Bravo!
"I personally don't think the Obamas will want this mess wreaking havoc near their brand."
Lol.
The Obamas released a "we-don't-know-these-people"statement back in January 2020 and it was very careful to clarify the circumstances of any contact the Obamas and the Sussexes.
https://people.com/royals/michelle-obama-barack-obama-not-advising-prince-harry-meghan-markle-sources/
It speaks to Meghan's brazenness that her PR articles continue to invoke the Obamas with an implied association after that statement was released.
Re genders, there's a BBC programme on their website telling children mother's are over 100 gender identities. Mind boggling.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9179703/BBC-programme-tells-9-year-olds-100-genders.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9180019/SARAH-VINE-masterclass-indoctrination-licence-fee.html
I really really think the British people ought to open their eyes before it’s too late.
We do, Putuhepa, we do, or at least, most of us do. I'm sure the BRF have had their eyes opened, too. Maybe the trial, if trial there is, will be the catalyst for the downfall of the house of Harkles. One can only hope.
Thank you for that information. I am aware of the different textures, shall we say, of those news titles, but wasn’t sure if they separated legal and financial teams, expense-wise.
Also regarding Megs and the Obamas,
A friend once remarked that Megs seems to try to pose in photos and on her former SM as the worshipful, “sexy”, wide-eyed ingenue 19-year old “daughter” of people like Messica, Oprah, and Michelle Obama.
As my friend said, “I don’t think they’re adopting.”
@Acquitaine,
"Thank you for that information. I am aware of the different textures, shall we say, of those news titles, but wasn’t sure if they separated legal and financial teams, expense-wise."
I'm not sure if legal, financial teams are independent like the editorial teams, but i assume they are with an option to share as appropriate.
On a different note, did you notice that in Harry's latest diatribe he invokes murdoch press?
How idiotic is this man?
He frequently uses Murdoch press to promote his projects - They own The Times and published FF!!!!
Clearly he hasn't made the connection between The Times and The Sun.
Plus he has a tabloid journalist as his mouthpiece. Someone who cut his teeth on the type of tabloid that thinks the ticker tape on DM online is pulitzer prize winning copy. Someone who lies easily to a court of law and doesn't hesitate to throw him under the bus to save himself.
"Last spring the MoS did ask her to agree to remove all the extraneous accusations/quasi-charges such as "dishonesty" and "intentionally causing conflict with Thomas" as these were unrelated to the main charges. They wanted her to drop them and to forego the hearing because of COVID. Said they we wouldn't try to collect expenses from her. She refused. She lost and ended up on the hook for more than £50,000 of expenses for the MoS."
And this is why she is already on the hook for millions before the case has reached trial.
At this point she can't afford to settle. She has to go forward and hope to win so ANL will cover her legal hills.
It's a fallacy to start a fight with soneone who has asssess to a barrel of ink, but it's especially idiotic to go against the DM who are worth billions and can keep you in court forever if they want.
I know! That Murdoch comment underlined the idea that Harry is either a dim bulb mouthing words, who can’t help but stumble into uninformed territory every single time —- or, that the SS intern/staffer/Mego ego who wrote the garbed answers for him doesn’t know about the Murdoch holdings either.
I feel like once before, we heard their silly disconnect between FF and their publishers and tabloid-fed plastic bestie Omid.
They are such hypocrites. I also fault the journalists who don’t see and point out these gaffes (unless they are told to wait for now). If we can figure this stuff out and research it, why can’t they?
And that takes me right back to the “backers” supposition.
I think he is being allowed to continue to make a fool of himself as long as his idiocy doesn't touch the visible symbols of the UK govt.
If he continues on that path, he'll be stripped of everything so fast it will maie his head spin. And it will be delivered via the gentle iron fist of his granny and he is too stupid to have made the connection between his granny ( and Charles and Willuam and George) and the UK govt - internal and external of UK.
What worries me is that with America's new and woke administration - an administration which strikes me as fairly anti-British - they will use the Harkles as their unwitting agents to get at the United Kingdom and its independence. Unwitting in the case of Harry FKAP and otherwise with the next American President aka The Duchess of Sussex. I am filled with foreboding.
What worries me is that with America's new and woke administration - an administration which strikes me as fairly anti-British - they will use the Harkles as their unwitting agents to get at the United Kingdom and its independence. Unwitting in the case of Harry FKAP and otherwise with the next American President aka The Duchess of Sussex. I am filled with foreboding.
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Are you feeling our new Admin is anti-British because Biden removed the Churchill bust? And the alleged planted pic of Harry at the inauguration?
I admire what Churchill did as a staunch ally of my country but that bust doesn't belong in my home or office either. Not my style for decor nor to make a statement. I would rather have a bust of George Harrison on my mantle but that's just me. I think the pic of Harry was a fluke which grew legs by the anti Harkles folks. JMHO.
I feel ya. What I know about the new admin is President Biden seems to be a centrist while VP Harris is more controversial. Since I too am in the middle and I got off my duff to vote for Biden, I am waiting to see what happens.
All I know is I would have voted for Howdy Doody before I would see what we had continue. It was my hold my nose moment, and it had to be done.
I respectfully disagree that the current Admin in the WH is "anti-British". And I don't think they care one fiddler's fart about the Sussex duo. They have too much on their plate and cleaning up to do...
Please expound.
Thanks.
Unwitting in the case of Harry FKAP and otherwise with the next American President aka The Duchess of Sussex. I am filled with foreboding.
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Please rest assured that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. They are too much of a joke in the USA. So some like Oprah promote them, most of the power players have distanced themselves completely.
If she runs for President of my country, I will hit the streets (which I haven't done since my youth). I've said it here before, she won't even make the primaries because Americans in general love your Queen.
I am sorry to see you ladies becoming worried as to men pretending to be women entering your bathrooms or beating you in the 100 metres. I promise I will never do such a thing.
What worries me is that with America's new and woke administration - an administration which strikes me as fairly anti-British - they will use the Harkles as their unwitting agents to get at the United Kingdom and its independence. Unwitting in the case of Harry FKAP and otherwise with the next American President aka The Duchess of Sussex. I am filled with foreboding.
Opus, I am not at all worried about you beating me in the 100 metre race. I'm sure you could. (I was always a distance runner.) If, on the other hand, a women's sports scholarship for a college education was at stake and you came in first and self-identified as a lesbian woman named Penelope while I finished second, we would have a problem. Actually, you would probably have had an unfortunate accident because, per husband, red-headed women with horses are the most dangerous kind (grin).
The dangerous thing about even speaking out about the "woke" agenda is that people are labeled as "haters" and dismissed from their jobs and prevented from making a living, blocked from social media, and blocked from even speaking out about the repercussions of the Pandora's Box that is being opened. (What happened to JK Rowling happened here, too.)
You can probably see the danger of FKAP and Medusa insinuating themselves (or trying to insinuate themselves) into an extremely volatile situation that they are seemingly too stupid to understand. Meanwhile, they live in a state that can't keep the electricity on, that has a HUGE divide between a few extremely wealthy in their guarded estates, a shrinking middle class as business owners and workers relocate, and a huge number of cases of extreme poverty and homeless.
We shall have to wait and see.
I am of course not privy to the administrations thoughts but these are the worrying signs:
1. The removal of Churchill's bust.
2. The pro-Irish rhetoric of Mr Biden - a Roman Catholic.
3. Being that Biden was Obama's VP and Obama threatened that should the British people have the temerity to vote to leave the E.U. Great Britain would go to the back of the trade queue then presumably Biden would have the same approach.
I had not heard about Harry's photo.
One can of course read it differently:
1. That removal of Churchill's bust is merely anti-Trump and anyway Churchill who has now been outed as a very bad man has even had his statue in Parliament Square boarded up and so....
2. American's are always double barrelled as in [insert country name] American and in the case of Mr Biden that would be Irish American and he is merely playing to the Irish American community and other Roman Catholics.
3. Brexit is now a done deal and the time for sabre rattling is thus past.
Even so the Harkles might be used as a weapon and seem to espouse the same woke rhetoric as at least certain supporters and indeed Congresswomen in the Democratic Party.
Might one not find it useful if one were an American President to have the seventh-in-line to the British throne and his American wife as a wanna-be Monarchy in exile in ones own country?
The dangerous thing about even speaking out about the "woke" agenda is that people are labeled as "haters" and dismissed from their jobs and prevented from making a living, blocked from social media, and blocked from even speaking out about the repercussions of the Pandora's Box that is being opened. (What happened to JK Rowling happened here, too.)
You can probably see the danger of FKAP and Medusa insinuating themselves (or trying to insinuate themselves) into an extremely volatile situation that they are seemingly too stupid to understand.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Per Biden's pro-Irish rhetoric, rightly so you are nervous. I would be too. I know the inner dealings of Irish Republicans. With that said, many Irish Americans are caught up in the romance of the IRA movies Hollywood has churned out. They know nothing of how the average Joe and Jane on the streets of Northern Ireland really feel about the issue. I highly, highly doubt Biden would embroil himself there. As I stated, his plate is more than full. Rest assured also, Americans in general care not one bit about Joe's ethnicity. Those would be in the minority.
I do not feel concerned that a sitting President would use a British Royal to do his biddings. But then again the past four years certainly set a precedent.
Really, The Duke and his moronic wife are the last thing on American's minds.
There is a lot of inadvertent misinformation even in the official information. It isn't deliberate; it is the reports back to the state of Florida from the labs throughout the US that are doing the COVID tests. What happens is that people that are quickly taking information from people being tested do not always enter it correctly, and thus we have people from Orlando being counted in my county totals because the labs in another state have no idea that Orlando is far away from my county. The people in Tallahassee that enter the information correct it when the county people have a chance to go through and correct it BUT our county health staff are busily setting up testing sites and vaccination sites. Some information is just getting dropped through the cracks, as it were, to be corrected later.
I have to say that I appreciate all of y'all poring through every bit of information, much of it deliberate misinformation to hide the facts, to try to ascertain the hidden nuggets of truth. I appreciate Tatty fact checking. Yes, some reports are red herrings that lead to nothing, but I think that all of you do exemplary work in trying to correct the record by using your areas of expertise to comment.
Before I got off on a side tangent thanks to Opus (grin), I was thinking about how this situation with the Markles was analogous to my going through every COVID number for every county and city in the state of Florida (daily) for fun.
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I have done the same for my state but then I stopped because I realized every one of those numbers had a name and the sadness became to great for me to bear.
I find it incredulous how Harkles continue to traipse about in LaLa land without a care in the world, spouting their crap that the tech giants show no responsibility for using SM to make money. The audacity of Harry's statement there is more the issue I would think.
I don't read here regularly so I 'm not up to snuff what has been said about that statement and the sheer irony of it. I just find it mind numbing ridiculous in light of their own life situation...
The bust of Winnie gets around...Trump had reinstated it to the Oval Office 4 years ago after Obama had banished it to another room for 8 years. Each incoming President is free to redecorate the residence and his official workspace as he likes; the removal of Churchill’s bust could be a mix of petty retaliation against his predecessor and also a commentary against Brexit. The astonishing election of Mr. Trump was due to sentiment within the American electorate which echoed those of the British public supporting Brexit— the two events are connected by the same Zeitgeist. It’s really very predictable that the bust of the colorful, controversial wartime Prime Minister is banished to Siberia once more...Be assured the minute a Republican administration gets back in, Winnie will be restored. In the meantime, Mr. Biden will be sitting every day at the Resolute Desk—A gift from Queen Victoria, and an even more indelible sign of the bond between our two nations. To give credit where it is due, it was President Kennedy, a Democrat, who reinstalled the Resolute Desk as the symbol of the Chief Executive’s office.
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk
As for Merching Meg and her Dimwit posing a threat to the governmental security of two nations ... I am not worried. They are a couple of whiny, talentless, lazy juvenile delinquents who have run away from home and are playing at being big shots. They have nothing to sell. Outside of the echo chamber of the publicity which she has paid for, they are roundly disliked or else completely ignored. These two don’t have enough charisma to compete on a game show, never mind giving lectures on global problems. I peg Harry’s IQ at 90; Any lower than that and we are in the realm of mental retardation. I’m not ruling that out, actually. Word has gotten around that the duo are impossible to work with and are bad investments. We really haven’t heard a single other peep regarding Netflix, Spotify, even the oat milk latte deal was a one and done. Charles and Granny need to completely cut off Harry’s allowance. Considering the precedent of HRH The Duke of Windsor Who got to keep his titles after the most grievous injury possible to the United Kingdom, I don’t forsee the queen taking Harry’s titles away. But that was a different time, and a different set of circumstances. Edward had been the King, with money in his own right. He and Wallis may have wanted a separate court in France, But with no social media or 24/7 New cycle, that Royal defector was a lot easier to ignore. HM may have to strip everything from her punk grandson to show him she means business...If only as the means to strip MeMe of hers.
They are an international joke...No one of influence is taking them the least bit seriously, even in the new Wokey administration. They are box office poison in Hollywood and Washington.
Actually, after that statement, it's no surprise that he partnered up with Humane Tech. Kills 2 birds with one stone. He gets to censor speech and profit off compassion.
Sir Winston has a message to the persons responsible for moving his bust from the Oval Office.
https://images.app.goo.gl/FbiCuYFUYwZrESc69
"......Meanwhile, they (the Sussexes) live in a state that can't keep the electricity on...."
This is the other woke agenda that labels one a heretic if you dare question.
California switched to approx 25% green energy for their energy needs supply in order to lead in this area and to get ahead in transforming to a green economy and are finding it wasn't worth their time, energy or money to go there.
Now they are doing the equivalent of shed loading because they can't generate enough electricity to meet the needs of their state. And they are too bullish to admit they made a mistake or put money into exploring a different approach to the system they put in place.
Wait who does that remind us of......🤔?
As an aside, Sammy M has posted replies to posts on twitter, saying that the hazing incident is untrue and MM was not expelled and did graduate, in addition, there is no other child of MM out there, be interesting to see what her book covers.
Ladies I really do have sympathy - some hairy-assed builder is not what you need in the ladies. I have known professionally and otherwise I suppose upwards of about ten trannies - all MtoF and not one of them has ever persuaded me that they are female. One instantly goes - that's a bloke. I would think then was a sufficiently large cross-section, and they are not all Homosexually inclined either. Don't they realise women are oppressed by the patriarchy? lol
"Don't they realise women are oppressed by the patriarchy? lol"
Ironically, they are acting exactly like the partriachy except they are in "woman" disguise.
As for SM's book, I hope it will be interesting, although I have no time for the Markles, I would like to know the truth rather than internet rumours which seem to gather traction the more times they are re-posted. Im sure there are hideous truths out there which may get missed whilst people are focusing on the untruths, perhaps that's the plan.....
If anything, I think Covid has been a friend to the Harkles. It has allowed them to obscure their movements, where they are living, who is working for them, if any, and given them a prime excuse for their complete lack of anything resembling productivity. They get to hide out, only appearing at highly orchestrated virtual events and a few papp strolls. Meg has complete control and can maintain that aura of mystery around herself that shes so cherishes. She can play peekaboo with “Archie”. Let’s be honest and say that JH is not fit for public consumption most of the time; she gets to control when he is seen as well. If it had been business as usual in Hollywood when they touchdown a year ago, I think it might have been evident even sooner that these two have nothing to offer. They may have been invited to some industry red carpet events as a curiosity...And we would have been treated to the same kinds of awkward sartorial disasters we saw back in England. If Meg had been given a microphone in live broadcast on national TV...It would’ve been evident all the sooner to the general American public who didn’t follow them before what a couple of braying asses they are. They are both their very worst enemies just when they open their mouth’s and talk. It would’ve been engagement interview 2.0 repeated on the talk show circuit. Thanks to Covid somewhat leveling the field, meaning that Hollywood shut down and establish stars are broadcasting from their living rooms too, I think this has enabled both of them to sustain their joint delusion that they are big shots and America can’t wait to vote them to the A+ list of celebrities. They would’ve had a wake up call much sooner if there was no excuse for not getting out there and networking in person.
@Opus
Churchhill’s sitting for and subsequently destroying Graham Sutherland portrait of him, which has been hailed as a lost masterpiece is the subject of Episode 9, S1 of The Crown, entitled “Assassins". It is well worth of you as one of the highlights of the series. John Lithgow is Churchill and Stephen Dillane is Sutherland. As the portrait sittings wore on, The two became tentative friends after both discovering that they were bereaved fathers, having each lost a child in infancy. Sutherland's picture Was not hagiography, but depicted the Bulldog of Britain in his twilight years, With the ensuing decrepitude. Churchhill’s ego could not stand for it. The real picture was not half as ugly as the one painted for the show, but the spectacular bonfire scene is included at the very end. The CROWN is Taking heat for its portrayal of events In its most recent season, but the first two seasons are really outstanding, and provide some insight into events early on in Elizabeth's reign that we’re completely new to me. I was just three years old when Charles was invested as Prince of Wales, so I had a lot to catch up on.
Hikari, Hikari, you are behind in your wokeness. We no longer have mental retardation; we only have differing degrees of intellectual disability. (I'll go with an IQ in the 80s, maybe 85, for $5.00.) Heh. Not really. Just judging the man on his actions and speeches that were NOT written by the palace professionals.
If the person is mildly intellectually disabled, experts say to look at the parents. If the intellectual disability is more profound, look at brain damage or genetic anomaly.
My tale of sorrow and constant woe.
My Uncle Walt
One day when I was 6 and half years old, I saw something that would change my life forever. The Aristocats. The momma cat named, DUCHESS, the meatballs, the kissing cats, that powder blue bow on littlest cat Marie. As soon as the movie ended I threw a tantrum, forcing my mother to take me to the local barber to get a skinhead hair cut on my fine wispy red hair. Then, it was across the street to the local tattoo parlor, were I insisted on getting the letters SS inked on what was to become my left bicep. The next evening, I lit a burning cross on the neighbors yard, I paid no attention to the words ‘protect and serve” in black and gold letters on the car parked in the drive. My pits were sweating, I was a marked man! The playhouse in the backyard and the attempted escape to Canada afforded no protection for me.
My Descent into the Cooler
Who knew that Disney would be the gateway drug to racism? But, worse was yet to come. In juvie, I was locked up, but still defiant! Tom, Dick and Harry you say? No. more like Mark, Will and Winston. First, I was caught reading The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, then even worse a play, by Shakespeare, Measure for Measure and the final line in the sand, all twelve volumes of Churchill’s, The Second World War and the four volumes of A History of the English Speaking Peoples. Into the cooler for me.
My Shawshank Redemption
I entered the prisoner visitation room, sitting across from me was a researcher funded by a loving kindness compassion grant from Stanford University, Doria M. (Ph.D. A.B.D. and A.W.O.L.). She administered the Likert Scale on Disney Movies and Racial Attitudes. I had seen them ALL, Herbie the Love Bug, That Darn Cat and Bedknobs and Broomsticks and more. She promised me a dollar for my time (I never got it) and a chance to be famous, her research was to appear in the Journal of Scientific Socialism and Perpetual Victimhood. Sadly, no article, perhaps there was not enough data or perhaps not enough dollars, but I was on the path to hope and healing.
Armed with my online certificate from the Kim Kardashian School of Law and Beauty, I am gonna sue Disney for millions! I may never hear the lions singing on the savannah or get hugged inappropriately by a sparkly princess, but I can be the change, the force for good (at least that is what I am going to tell my parole board next year)—no child will ever, ever, have to hear a voiceover elephant documentary again.
PS: Can you send me a copy of a book with the provocative title, Finding Freedom, don’t worry, it is on the approved list of recreational reading for model women prisoners.
I know mental retardation is out of favor as a term, but I’m so pissed at Harry, I’m going with it. I don’t think he’s as low as 80, Because at that level we would see problems with physical coordination, and Harry has always been athletic as his sole claim to being good at anything. When things are pitched to his comfort level, he can function, but having to dispense long strings of $4 words in a word salad must be his personal nightmare... like having to sit for A levels all over again.
It’s hard to disentangle laziness, a disinclination to work, and an allergy to authority from low functioning intelligence. I.e., is hairy organically stupid, or does he just not give AF? If he had not been born a prince, and been forced to Sink or swim at school on his own merits or demerits, And make a living in order to survive, there would be more clarity on this question. Without the protections and the props of the royal family, within which he was of some limited value for PR purposes, he really is good for nothing. He was given a very overinflated view of his own abilities and position within the hierarchy, and now that he’s so foolishly run away from their protection, he has revealed what an empty and juvenile nothingburger he is. Talk about a lost soul. Whatever happens from here on out, it’s not going to end well for Harry.
The royal family could and should have gone a number of different ways with Hazza. Instead of sending him in William’s footsteps to Eton and Sandhurst, fudging his scores and taking away places at both schools from deserving students who could actually do the work, harry needed another path. He needed alternative schooling that would give him hard skills in something like animal husbandry. He could have worked with the Queen’s horses, or become an estate manager. He could have been encouraged to go to school abroad in the Commonwealth and to be on the ground doing charity work somewhere like South Africa or Australia from his teen years. Some rugged course of study that would have turned him into real soldier material or made him into more than just a figurehead for a charity organization. I don’t know if Harry has any redeeming qualities; we’ve been snowed so long by the palace PR,It’s hard to sift reality from the spin. My mental image of Harry is still that smiling, cheeky ginger boy on outings with his mum and brother. Was it all because of the loss of Diana that it went so wrong? Harry needs help; he’s needed it for 22 years and never got it. What we have now is the result. It’s not entirely surprising that he fell victim to a toxic marriage; he’s been surrounded by toxic influences since he was 13.
Well Tristan went on Joe Rogan’s podcast a few months ago and exclaimed ‘Meghan was the most trolled person in the world last year.’ After he was told this by Meghan.
Joe Rogan then proceeded to fact check this on air, and Tristan was proved wrong. Check it out on YouTube, pretty funny.
Now, it’s come out on the Archewell site that they are sponsoring or putting charity towards Tristan’s foundation against Tech.
Says all you need to know really. Bunch of conning fools getting together for a fake cause.
We need more people and journalists fact checking all the nonsense they and those groups spew. They all have agendas and their primary agenda is to enrich themselves.
Someone needs to tell Harry this. Just because he and Meghan *feel* a certain way about how things didn’t turn in their favor, there is no use not accepting those feelings and moving on in a productive way (ie not moaning about the past).
Does anyone else think most of population is over reading about their 12-24 month history they regurgitate every single day? They do come across slow, self centered, and don’t understand how useless this strategy is. Move on!
If you believe in IQs, the average human IQ is 100 with a standard deviation of 15 (or so, depends on the IQ test administered).
Anything above 2 standard deviations from mean is "genius" and anything below 2 standard deviations is "special needs"--as in sent to a special classroom in school.
100. average
>130 Einstein
<70 Cocker Spaniel
The question really is, how close to a cocker spaniel do you think Drip is?
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That was hilariously brilliant. I read it twice, I am still laughing. “My Descent into the Cooler.”
Genius. Sorry you never got your dollar.
I am going to read it again now. You have captured the madness, you have captured it all. I want more. Bravo bravo bravo. 😂
Love your Aristocats perils of Disney story!!!
So many talented writers here!✍💓✍
There seem to be at least a dozen different tools to assess human intelligence. Even the Stanford Binet,
With which I was the most familiar, lists ‘90-100' as 'Average’. I don’t think anybody would want to cop to an IQ below 100, But since Harry is demonstratively below average intellectually, not capable of any passing grades in coursework without cheating, even in an art project, I am going to have to revise my projection down by 10 points. 80-85 is sounding more like it. Into the 70s we are getting into sheltered workshop territory. I don’t think Harry is that badly off, but the areas in which he feels most comfortable involve physical action rather than any sort of mental or intellectual work. He should’ve been born into a family of cattle ranchers and he would be a much happier person.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification
I’m sure I must’ve taken an IQ test in elementary school at some point, but I have no idea of my score. I would hope for something in the high 120s, 130 being Genius by most scales. I would like to claim being a genius, but I know that’s not true. I have a feeling that there are a number of dog breeds which would be more intelligent than Harry and certainly more likeable.
How much longer are we going to have to watch this Freakshow go on?
I guess that depends on the Queen—obviously, I know, but I am beginning to wonder if she and PC are capable of making a clean break. I am also beginning to wonder if HM’s attitude is along the lines of Apres moi, le deluge(pardon the absence of accent marks)
That. Was. Brilliant! I am still giggling. I believe you
and JennS should be awarded the Lattes of the Day (@JennS for the hilarious hair-dos of Hairy Harkle)
And thanks to Magatha for her amazing poems. You are dead on. Every time.
I find I need much more laughter these days.
Thanks Nutties for providing that laughter along with laser sharp insights into the world of Whinge and Cringe
Where does Archie come?
[ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/t-magazine/edith-wharton-custom-of-the-country.html?s=08#click=https://t.co/300ewxo0yD
For those who dont know about the novel, you can read it here: https://www.newyorker.com/books/second-read/what-edith-wharton-knew-a-century-ago-about-women-and-fame-in-america?s=08
Undine Spragg is just as callous and as much a narc as Meghan, has doting parents who give her everything material and emotional that she callously discards which never stops their ongoing efforts to shower her with love, affection and money. She uses and abuses everyone in her quest for money and social status. Is very strategic about her friendships which are strictly transactional and last only as long as they benefit Undine. She's a false, fair weather friend to everybody. She specifically marries for money and titles not simply because it's the norm in her society, but because she wants to be Queen of society and lord it over everyone especially the people she feels never appreciated her self-diagnosed specialness. She's an unfeeling, uncaring mother who neglects her child after he fulfills his mission in helping her anchor a title and the wealth that comes with it.
The comparisons come up repeatedly.
Before Meghan arrived on the scene, i always took the Undine Spragg character to be a fantastic exaggeration. Now? I think Edith Wharton had a time machine!!!!
"She had found out that she had given herself to the exclusive and the dowdy when the future belonged to the showy and the promiscuous"
And like Meghan, Undine rejects sophisticated, exclusive society and returns to America to settle down with a new love interest who is as unsophisticated as she once was, was a childhood friend, but luckily has become a billionaire in the interim which cusions any negative misgivings she might have about him.
Ever since I discovered that my mother's grandmother had Irish origins, I've tried to get a grasp on the history of Ireland. (I learnt of the `family from Co. Kerry' back in 1961; gt.grandma's parents must have arrived before 1823, when their eldest child was born in London. So I wore shamrock on St Patrick's Day, defying school uniform regulations. Much more recently I've found an apparent connection with Norman-Irish barons of Athenry on my father's side.)
Even so, I don't feel have succeeded beyond being slightly more aware than may others and being able to identify wild and sweeping statements about what should be done by those who pontificate without having a clue.
Lord Mountbatten, who meant so much to Philip & Charles, was killed, in 1979, at Mullaghmore, Co Sligo (Irish Republic) by the Provisional IRA (Irish Republican Army). He was blown up by a bomb, along with others of his party and a local lad. The same day 18 British soldiers were killed in an ambush, by the Provos, at Warren Point in County Down, NI. That was just 5 years before Harry was born.
I can only imagine he shut his ears to any information he was given about either family or military history. The Deal Memorial Concert episode showed how little he cares, as did her attitude on the Irish visit. Could he even voice support for the IRA? He's stupid enough.
The paper of note just analogised her to a heartless, title chasing, gold-digging social climber when last month the oldest paper in the country,The NYpost, added her to the silver-tongued, cold-hearted gold diggers' club of Hilaria Baldwin and Heather Mills who deliberately seek out dumb, but extremely famous, wealthy men to vault to their own self-grandisement.
That SAID, the author is pretty ruthless lol! She goes on about Meghan rather abruptly, and she only curves it back around to give a backhanded complement ‘she makes lemonade out of lemons!’ Then immediately starts talking about Harry and how it’s not so easy for him.
We all know Meghan absolutely loathes the gold digger narrative and this woman pretty much labels her a ruthless social climber who will dump Harry.
I would not be surprised if this gets popular that Meghan will sue the NYTimes over it. She will claim its defamation. She runs from the truth of who she is. She will not tolerate such a negative narrative in such a large publication, in the midst of her desperate victim PR narrative to turn the tides of opinion. The biggest thing Meghan fears are unknowns coming to learn about her through articles like this.
Regardless of the motive, bravo to the author for writing the article and including Meghan’s ‘story’.
As it happens I have my own angle as to the destroyed portrait of Sir Winston in that I represented the gardener who so he said had been entrusted with the destruction of the said painting. My involvement stemmed from what we would now call a racial slur aimed at the gardener by a certain well known broadsheet. I am happy to say our action for libel against the paper was successful. I suppose none of that is in the movie you reference.
Not that I necessarily believed a word my client said and far too often he was 'tired and emotional' - if you are familiar with that euphemism.
What do you think this portends for her career? Remember that the New York Post compared her to Hilaria Baldwin. Hilaria claimed not to know who Alec Baldwin was just like Meghan claimed not to know about the RF. The New York post was shading both women as liars.
I'm really begining to pity her. She's expending so much money just to get people to like her without bothering to know why she offends people's sensibilities. I kept saying that the UK has long seen her for whom she is but that it will take time for the US to realise.
I never knew that a time would come when a woke paper like NYT will publish such an article about their American princess.
She got a high profile gig and messed it up so badly. How can anyone give up being a working member of the RF with all of its massive machinery to go and hustle for spotify and Netflix deals where you have to compete with the likes of Joe Rogan?I don't understand.
And talking about podcasts, will they be producing once a month or what?
So far, haven't seen a single gay rumour about Meghan though there are plenty about Harry.
Several months ago - possibly a full year ago, Cindy Adams, doyenne of NY trophy society whote a furious article about Meghan who she variously describes as ill-mannered, calculating and a social climber who targeted the 'twit Harry' after failing to find the rich, European husband she had been shopping for earlier.
https://pagesix.com/2020/01/14/column-meghan-markle-knew-exactly-what-she-signed-up-for/
Cindy might be older than the hills, but she's a gateway to standing innthat crowd. I knew then that Meghan would find it a very difficult battle to climb if she set her sights on NYC society.
This article from NYtimes cements her fate. She's done in NYC without having tried at all.
Which means Harry had already arrived in Hollywood without stepping foot in the place....lol.
@Swampwoman: Yep.
Which means Harry had already arrived in Hollywood without stepping foot in the place....lol.
Heh. Yep. Hollywood Harry, embraced by the glitterati, as long as he doesn't stray from the "woke" script or speak out against *their* conspicuous consumption.
@ Nelo: I'm not surprised the NYtimes wrote this piece despite their wokery. I think i'm just surprised at how quickly they wrote it.
Several months ago - possibly a full year ago, Cindy Adams, doyenne of NY trophy society whote a furious article about Meghan who she variously describes as ill-mannered, calculating and a social climber who targeted the 'twit Harry' after failing to find the rich, European husband she had been shopping for earlier.
https://pagesix.com/2020/01/14/column-meghan-markle-knew-exactly-what-she-signed-up-for/
Cindy might be older than the hills, but she's a gateway to standing innthat crowd. I knew then that Meghan would find it a very difficult battle to climb if she set her sights on NYC society.
This article from NYtimes cements her fate. She's done in NYC without having tried at all.
Well, now, this presents a dilemma. The very snobby commies that hate HER and everything that she has done hate ME because I'm middle class, because of where I live, the fields in which I've worked, that I like to work with my hands, and how I've written extensively about the damage the welfare state does to the people that it purports to protect.
I may have to become a sugar. (Cognitive dissonance intensifies.)
I don't get it at all. How can someone have a powerful friend like Oprah, yet can't get break even in Hollywood?
"@Acquataine, how can Meghan have someone like Oprah and Tyler Perry in her corner and still find it difficult to break into Hollywood? Oprah gave Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil their TV careers. She made Gayle King a millionaire. She helped Tyler Perry a lot. She was powerful enough to get Monique backlisted for many years. Yet, the best she could do for Meg is to flog oat lattes?I don't get it at all. How can someone have a powerful friend like Oprah, yet can't get break even in Hollywood?"
I'm sure @Acquataine will have an interesting answer. My answer is
1. Oprah doesn't have the clout she used to for a variety of reasons. Oz and Phil were a long time ago. And even Gayle's emergence wasn't that recent. My personal view is Oprah "jumped the shark" when she publicly entertained running for president.
2. The pandemic has changed a lot of things.
3. Maybe Oprah is hesitant to get too involved. She supposedly also has that mental health film with Harry still kicking around.
4. Maybe Oprah DID help them with Netflix and Spotify.
5. Meghan really stinks as an actress. I went to high school with actresses with more talent. There's only so much anyone can do as Trevor discovered.
I have wondered if the `real Archie', if such there be, suffers from Foetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS), given his mother's liking for the stuff.
So I had a look for FAS and FAS Disorder and found this on the Drink Aware site:
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/alcohol-fertility-and-pregnancy/foetal-alcohol-syndrome-fas#fasdsignsandsymptoms
"It is more difficult for a specialist to diagnose FASD than it is FAS. This is because children with FASD may not have facial deformities. It might not be until they start going to school and interacting with others that one or more of the following symptoms – which also affect children with foetal alcohol syndrome – show up:
Difficulty with group social interaction
Egocentricity
Failure to learn from the consequences of their actions
Hyperactivity and poor attention
Inability to grasp instructions
Lack of appropriate social boundaries (such as over friendliness with strangers)
Learning difficulties
Mixing reality and fiction
Poor coordination.
Problems with language
Poor problem solving and planning
Poor short term memory"
Remind you of anyone?
Incidentally, I was reading `Supervet' Noel Fitzpatrick's new book yesterday and discovered he'd been invited, and had attended, the Harkles' wedding, evening do and all. `Why?', one might ask.
Was she angling for a photo opportunity or a chance to be included in Channel 4's filming at Fitzpatrick Referrals, his establishment near Guildford. Odder still, Noel's mammy (ie. Mummy/Mommy) in Ireland received a Christmas cake from her. Naturally, NF thinks MM's lovely - but WTH?
We can argue that Oprah isn't as influential as she used to be but what of Tyler Perry?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/896451/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Guy-dog-beagle-Noel-Fitzpatrick
Was she hoping for free treatment? Or did she figure out that she'd be able to could go direct without getting a referral from an ordinary vet? Keep everything quiet? Not be seen carrying Guy into the surgery (US: `Office') by anyone not covered by professional rules?
The Express yesterday reported that H's mention of the riots in his latest offering has upset BP & he's been told to keep out of other countries' politics.
Will he take any notice? She won't.
@Acquataine, how can Meghan have someone like Oprah and Tyler Perry in her corner and still find it difficult to break into Hollywood? Oprah gave Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil their TV careers. She made Gayle King a millionaire. She helped Tyler Perry a lot. She was powerful enough to get Monique backlisted for many years. Yet, the best she could do for Meg is to flog oat lattes?
I don't get it at all. How can someone have a powerful friend like Oprah, yet can't get break even in Hollywood?
Nelo, I am waiting on what Acquitaine says as well. I *think* (and this is only opinion) that it comes down to the transactional nature of Hollywood "friendships". Oprah has a few friends and a LOT of people that want to use her as a ladder to achieve their goals. Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil made her a lot of money and contributed to the success of her show and were what American (women) wanted to watch at that time. I doubt that they would meander in uninvited if they were in the 'hood to lounge on her sofa, drink her wine and borrow her shoes like a "real" friend. Tyler Perry is legit talented; before he was famous, I was listening to his "Madea" books on long drives. She may have brought him to wider attention but the talent was there.
Which brings us to Meghan. I haven't seen what her talents are besides serially victimizing men. She doesn't appear to have been working on any other knowledge or skills. Oprah has to have *something* to work with.
If I were them, I would go full reality show and not even bother pretending producing a documentary which would be very boring. Or better still, they can look for an already finished product like the Obama's did with American factory and put their name on it. Only these two options makes sense.
I wonder why they have not released more podcasts.
Firstly, i second what @Lizzie said.
Her sponsorship / mentorship to (super) stardom programme appears to have sputtered out towards the tail end of her TV show, and if you think about it only worked if she was pushing Therapy ( Drs Phil and Oz) or lifestyle particularly books ( all those authors +Rachel Ray)
Her forays into Hollywood / hot mess sponsorship have never worked out. Even Radio wasn't successful for her though she sustained that for a decade with a series of celebrity guest interviews - an Oprah versionnof the Howard Stern show.
She tried mentoring / sponsoring Fergie, Lindsay Lohan and now Meghan.
Despite her profile and clout, her Hollywood career is not good at all. Only two successful films on her resume; The Colour Purple and Precious. Besides these 2 projects, every single project associated with her has either failed outright or under performed despite triple A list global marketing and media attention simply because of the connection with her.
Tyler Perry has a very specific niche and he stays in his lane.
Meghan definitely doesn't want to be in Tyler Perry's lane because she doesn't value anything he has to offer professionally though she enjoyed ( enjoys?) The fruits of his success.
Well, if he were a member of my family flashing his lack of intelligence to the world, I'd be telling him to sit down and shut up as well. Is he smart enough to take that advice, though?
All hot messes whose main problems are self-destructive behavior. Jesus saves, but he'd have a real hard time with them.
"We can argue that Oprah isn't as influential as she used to be but what of Tyler Perry?"
Not sure M wants what he sells. But maybe Tyler figures he did his part to help by flying a huge private jet from the US East Coast to the Canadian West Coast to pick them up and fly them to LA, lending his house to them for months with a baby and two dogs in tow (dogs who swam in his pool), allowing his "guests" to erect ugly wire fencing around his hilltop house, allowing his guests to use security personnel he paid for... I think it was also suggested he may have been the contact for the mental health group in Atlanta H&M Zoom crashed.
Now that she is supremely arrogant and desperate for cash and enraged by lack of traction, plus litigious and a hand biter, she may be seen as an even greater nightmare. Think the “avoid” and “block” actions In Hollywood are going to be increasing organically against Meee, and the subtle levels of avoidance will be escalating.
All they have left are fickle James Corden, and a tenuous relationship to David Foster; that’s over when he moves on from McPhee, as is his way. I think the oat milk latte plug was their severance package from Oprah.
I like your analysis of the situation regarding Megs and Oprah. Makes good sense.
PS — did you see the Express article yesterday about M being “head over heels in love” with Trevor early on, as per Thomas Markle Junior? It is a poorly written little piece that bounces around and mixes facts, but it has some odd little gems.
*. One sentence says M married Trevor in Montecito (red alert!)and another line references their wedding with friends in Jamaica. Does she have a habit of forcing a fast secret marriage, and forcing a parent to pay for a bigger wedding too?
*. The Express article also says that Megs suddenly became close to her paternal grandmother is the last few months before the woman’s death; and oddly, the grandmother at this time suddenly developed a weird negative attitude to Thomas Sr and Thomas Jr. (Was someone doing a little pre-death granny fortune hunting like a carer on the Riviera?)
*. Best of all, Thomas Jr then says that at the grandmother’s funeral, Meghan, who has been acting madly in love with Trevor just a few months earlier, was now “scowling” at Trevor “and him cowering like a puppy dog and doing what he’s told.”
Thoughts?
Interesting theory re FAS/FASD. This, however, would mean that Megsy carried her child - she would have had to drink while pregnant. As always, it's hard to say with Meg. If we think she used a surrogate, this cancels the FAS/FASD theory.
Could he even voice support for the IRA? He's stupid enough.
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That would surely be a fools errand but not as foolish as pissing off the UVF (including breakaways in that camp) and the Orange Order, which surely he has by marrying Meghan and all that implies. Hes' fuc'd either way...
Stupidity at the grandest level, I'm afraid. The BRF must know this, yes?
Perhaps this is why they generate such high security bills? Rhetorical question.
Perhaps this is why they generate such high security bills? Rhetorical question.
Meaning the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, just to clarify for any new readers.
I was thinking about Megs herself and her life in utero. Do we know anything about Doria's relationship with the bottle?
I was playing Devil's Advocate, I suppose, on the outside chance that if the child's really the fruit of their loins, carried naturally, he could be damaged in that way. They commented on what a calm, easy child he was; my step-niece was like that and her mother, girlfriend of step-son, was a great one for a binge.
@Lavender Lady: as far as I'm aware, the NI Loyalists are fiercely loyal to the Crown, so I'm not sure how they'd regard Harry if he appeared to cosy up to, say, the Provos or today's equivalent thereof. An interesting thought.
There's an excellent book called `Fighting Like the Devil for the Sake of God: Protestants, Catholics and the Origins of Violence in Victorian Belfast' by Mark Doyle. IMO, it's a balanced account which examines, among other things, the effects of an Anglican bishop's efforts to convert Catholics in the mid-19thC.
See see:https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Fighting_Like_the_Devil_for_the_Sake_of.html
<Protestants, Catholics and the Origins of Violence in Victorian Belfast
I'll leave it at that - it's dangerous ground.
Security bills: the main terrorist threat in the UK nowadays is regarded as coming from militant/fundamentalist Islam; in H's case that is intensified by his time in Afghanistan.
Nevertheless, I imagine there are still those from nearer home whom they could infuriate.
As it happens I have my own angle as to the destroyed portrait of Sir Winston in that I represented the gardener who so he said had been entrusted with the destruction of the said painting. My involvement stemmed from what we would now call a racial slur aimed at the gardener by a certain well known broadsheet. I am happy to say our action for libel against the paper was successful. I suppose none of that is in the movie you reference.
I'm thinking you need to write your memoirs and share more memories like this . . how interesting that you are in this way tangential to Sir Winston. The Crown episode ends with Clemmie Churchill (Dame Harriet Walter) watching with angst from the window as the painting burns. Clemmie knew it was a terrible idea and there would be repercussions. There is a gardener or two tending the fire, but that's where the episode ends.
So, I take it this certain well-known broadsheet was criticizing Sir Winston's minority staff member for his role in the destruction of the painting via use of this racial slur? I'm glad you won; that was unconscionable on multiple levels. Just using the word, for one, but if this domestic servant had been following orders given directly to him by Mr. Churchill, how can he be blamed for the loss of the painting? Sir Winston hated that painting so much, I'm surprised he didn't throw it on the fire himself. It's not like burning it would have been the gardener's own idea.