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 Here's a fresh post to continue discussing Sussex news and developments.

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Superfly said…
@charde - who is this person you are quoting about all the gossip in the beginning? Who on earth writes like that?

You'd think an 'insider' would have a better grasp of the English language, perhaps include a paragraph or two and maybe a comma somewhere where it belongs. As interesting as it is, it's appallingly written.

Juicy though. However, I'm in the camp of non-believers when it comes to the pregnancy, and I have also stopped feeling sorry for Handbag Harry a long time ago. He's getting what he deserves at this point.
Superfly said…
Hikari asked

"who in her right mind wants to look grossly LARGER than she is at any time, pregnant or no?"

Only someone who is FAKING their pregnancy, and is therefor absolutely desperate to have people believe it is real.
Sandie said…
With re. to visiting the UK with Harry and Archie, I don't think Meghan cares two figs about a diplomatic drama. It would ensure that all attention is on her. Even this early speculation is making sure that she is front and centre, so I can see why folk would think that she is behind the DM article. However, it is hypocritical to the point of being bizarre.

I do see that she would not want to be anywhere near a family gathering as the only person other than Harry who does not basically ignore her (after an obligatory kiss kiss on both cheeks then move on) is Edward!

I bet that she is spitting nails about the Diana statue unveiling. That would be an iconic photo op, like the meeting with Arch Tutu. Would she wear another 'creation', chosen from the Internet and ill fitting like the green preying mantis outfit, or would she go for bespoke and specially made for her? How would she be Calafornian relaxed but paying homage to Diana? The dread of getting together with Harry's family must be deep for her to give that up!
Acquitaine said…
@just sayin' said…


"I also seem to recall that there was a claim long ago that the ‘Queen and Prince Phillip admire baby Archie’ photo was actually photoshopped from a picture of the Queen and Prince Phillip admiring a horse at some racing event. If true, Doria may have either been complicit in staging the setup, or was herself a victim of Photoshop Meg."

The picture was carried by the official Instageam account of the royal family - liaded it for one month before removingbit. The Royal family retained copyright of it wh8ch is why you never see Megsy reproducingbit anywhere else or even producing secret behind the scenes off prints of the moment as she usually does.

Also, the Queen used that picture in the Christmas message broadcast for 2018.

Meghan is capable of many things, but photoshoping an image of the Queen into an official royal family announcement would be both impossible and illegal.


Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said...
"With re. to visiting the UK with Harry and Archie, I don't think Meghan cares two figs about a diplomatic drama."

I interpreted " diplomatic drama" as the palace wanting to avoid keeping Meghan out of all tye celebrations whilet having her continually inserting herself in them as much and as publicly as possible.

Do you remember the drama of her ( with Harry) trying to insert themselves into the public viewing of PoW investiture regalia when it was dessignated for heir couples only?

In the end a couple of BP staffers including The Queen's equerry had to step in and herd the Sussexes away.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qag5-McpMKA

We later learnt that on another occasion the Sussexes deliberately exited Buckingham Palace private rooms via a walk through an ongoing investiture ceremony in the Ballroom hosted by Prince Charles as if there were no other ways to exit the palace except through a public ceremony taking place.

I think that is type of situation they are trying to avoid.

Failing that they need to hire the Morocco protocol lady every time the Sussexes show up in UK because that lady meant business and it was glorious to watch her herd Meghan into proper protocol like she was herding a very reluctant cat.
Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said...

"I wonder why he uses Duke of Sussex now. Higher-ranking title (but not without the HRH)? Respect for the Queen, who gifted the title to him? Because Meghan would be called Princess Harry/Henry of Sussex?"

In the UK, a peerage title is ALWAYS higher ranking than non-peerage title.

"Prince" is not recognised in the peerage which is why everyone without a peerage title is a commoner even if they have'prince' infront of their name.

The Highest ranking title innthe peerage is 'duke' therefore Harry is going by his highest ranked title of Duke.
LavenderLady said…
@Jocelyn,

Thanks for the Hyacinth bit. I could hear her voice in the script! Great memories of all the laughs from that show over the years :)

@Magatha,

I love all of your work but Megsy's Mirror is the Pulitzer winner! You topped even yourself with that one.

@WBBM,

Hurry back. I hate missing your comments. I am hoping you get a look at The Dig. Save the casting of Lily James, IMO, it's a wonderful film in many ways. I have a question for you for when you get back about the findings of that dig. Mrs. Pretty's sense of duty and love of her country shines through in the film.

@abbyh, @Charade,

Thanks for everything you do. Hugs.
Maneki Neko said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

Loved your reporting from BP, very funny! Maybe you could be our special Court correspondent?

@Magatha

In great form again, keep it up.
OKay said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis Your comments to Magatha, in Hyacinth's voice, are delightful. I'm a Canadian girl who LOVES Brit-coms. I can hear her reading all that right now!
Hikari said…
To give you a laugh for your Saturday . . .

Meghan & Harry present their new baby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BwU-FXXOWM

**********

For contrast, here's the real thing. We could make a drinking game out of how many times MM touches her hair & giggles like a teenage mom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKerUNvVaYs

The hits just keep comin' . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFL54Q7zV34

********

Harry's demeanor in the presentation video is hard to reconcile with a man who is actively complicit in perpetrating a giant fraud about his fatherhood and may be holding a doll. I don't think this baby is a doll--but where has this Harry got to? Where is this ebullience over being a father, now that Archie is getting old enough to actually play with?
Sandie said…
@Aquitaine

That makes sense.

Just Call Me Harry holds onto the high-ranking title!

I don't think it is an absolute rule though (that a person would use the title with highest rank). Camilla is known as Duchess of Cornwall, but Charles goes by Prince Charles, and not even Prince of Wales any more.
Sandie said…
@Aquitane

You assumed that the source of the article in DM is BP. Other posters pointed out that it could very well be the Sussexes (the article claims the source is someone close to the Sussexes).

I did not say that Meghan would not create a diplomatic drama. Quite the opposite, in fact. I said she would not care two figs about creating a diplomatic drama and would not stay away for that reason.
TeddyTheMaltese said…
Hey if anyone is ever in need of old bananas for banana bread, just take a look in my freezer! :) I have way too many old bananas saved on the premise that one day I’ll need them for banana bread LOL
Sandie said…
https://harrymarkle.substack.com/p/harry-and-the-travalyst-report/comments

Comments section for the new Harry Markle post.

I disagree with a lot of what the blogger says. Ironically, it confirms that Harry is right and that people are not informed about sustainable tourism, or the countries that follow this philosophy.
Catlady1649 said…
I loved the Hyacinth Bucket reporter post,upthread. Reading it in Hyacinth's voice. Fabulous
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Superfly said…
Just catching up with all the comments, I had no idea that MM supposedly gave birth at the Portland.

I gave birth at the Portland. I stayed for 2 nights, but had a c-section. I find it hard to believe that they'd just wave her bye-bye after 4 hours, and even harder to believe that she'd leave so quickly. As a first time mother, the Portland nurses and midwives are there to assist you in everything. My husband gave our child the first bath with the nurse, because I was bed bound. That happened the day after the birth. During my stay there, I was taught how to breastfeed properly, and if I failed, how much bottled milk to add, how to burp properly and what to look out for.
Of course MM could do all of that at home with a night nurse, but in a hospital setting, all these services are there to give first time mothers confidence and answer questions. I too had a night nurse when I went home, still, I would have not left the hospital after 4 hours without taking full advantage of the safety and security that, that particular setting provided for my baby and me.

Just another reason I don't believe her.
This is Mrs. Hyacinth Bucket, the lady of the house speaking. A grand thank you to all of you lovely Nutties who enjoyed my first reportage from the gates of Buckingham Palace. I fell asleep on the the chair by the window in the living room shortly after I posted. I had been waiting for the vicar to pass by (he just loves to have a little tete a tete with me), and I told Richard to wake me if I fell asleep. Of course, my dear Richard forgot, and I woke up this morning with the most dreadful backache. My first step this morning is to call the sofa manufacturer to discuss the quality of their furniture. I shall not have shabby furniture on the premises! Richard has been removed to the garden as punishment.

Yes, I shall take up the extreme honor of reporting throughout dear Harry's triumphant return to the palace. I know that my sweet Lilibet has provided a place for me to stand on the balcony during the festivities, and I know that she will want me to be right at her side. She does depend on me so!

I'm off now to find fabric for my military uniform. Of course, it will be a bespoke garment, as nothing less will do. I just don't understand why my dear Sheridan isn't coming home to help with my Trooping the Color arrangements! He says he far too busy with school right now. My Sheridan is such a brilliant scholar!

This is Mrs. Hyacinth Bucket signing off now, and again thanking you for your delightful compliments. I shall return. Over and out!
Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said…
"@Aquitaine

That makes sense.

Just Call Me Harry holds onto the high-ranking title!

I don't think it is an absolute rule though (that a person would use the title with highest rank). Camilla is known as Duchess of Cornwall, but Charles goes by Prince Charles, and not even Prince of Wales any more."

Firstly, where are you reading that Prince Charles is no longer using The Prince of Wales title? Or downplaying it in some way?

He is always The Prince of Wales in all media even if later in the article they revert to Prince Charles rather than continually spell out PoW.

Calling him Prince Charles is shorthand in articles for people who may not be familiar with titles and usually that casual familiarity is in gossip media. The same ones that keep calling Kate or Meghan Duchess Kate or Duchess Meghan.

For branding reasons, Harry and Meghan have gone overboard at using their title such that there can't be anyone who doesn't know that they are DDoSussex, and yet articles still revert back to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

Secondly, Camilla is the PssoW as well as DoCornwall, but at the time of her marriage, despite great strides in improving her public image, there was still alot of antipathy towards her using the Princess of Wales title particularly from the still rabid Diana fans who made it clear that the title was strictly Diana's ownership despite the fact that it is Charles and therefore his wife's to use regardless of who they might be.

It was therefore decided that Camilla should use DoCornwall to appease that Diana lobby.

This is the same reason they offered up the idea that she would be Princess Consort when Charles becomes King instead of Queen Consort. It would be the first time such a title was used in the British monarchy.

As people have come to know Camilla and like or tolerate her, the idea of her taking up her rightful title as Queen Consort isn't as polarising as it was at her marriage and most people seem relaxed about her getting it.

The funny thing is that those same rabid fans don't seem to have realised that Diana was also DoCornwall.





Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said…
"@Aquitane

You assumed that the source of the article in DM is BP. Other posters pointed out that it could very well be the Sussexes (the article claims the source is someone close to the Sussexes).

I did not say that Meghan would not create a diplomatic drama. Quite the opposite, in fact. I said she would not care two figs about creating a diplomatic drama and would not stay away for that reason."

You are right that i think this is a BP planted article, but even if it is Sussex planted, both our points still stand because Meghan would want to cause drama as publicly as possible and BP would be left trying to diplomatically ease the situation.

I gave 2 exampkes of Meghan doing just that.

And suggested BP should hire the Moroccan court lady because she succeeded in keeping Meghan in line on almost entire trip.
New Lady C out. She calls Harry nuts and says he's setting himself up for a huge fall. She asks, "What does the couple (The Harkles) have to hide? What secret are they guarding so jealously?"... "They are pushing a censorship agenda." "They would prefer the world to be muzzled."

Lady C pulls no punches in this episode.
madamelightfoot said…
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@crumpet,

This is Mrs. Hyacinth Bucket, the lady of the house speaking. You, dear, also host candlelight suppers? I would love to attend your charming little soiree. Do you have enough china for your supper? I would be happy to provide some daily use china if you need it, but my Royal Daulton china with the periwinkles on them are far too expensive to loan to just anybody. They must be dealt with such great and disciplined care. The last time I used my Royal Daulton, with the periwinkles, my neighbor, Elizabeth, (not my dear Lilibet, of course!) shook so much that she spilled some tea and nearly broke a tea cup. I keep telling her that she needs to see a doctor for that nervous condition of hers.

So, yes, Richard and I will gladly attend your little gathering, and I will guide you through the small, but extremely important details that will make your party a resounding success, almost as if it is one MY famous candlelight suppers. My candlelight suppers are pure perfection, and I'm sure your little supper will be almost as successful as mine!
Hikari said…
I don't want to wish my life away, but I'm starting to get on tenterhooks re. Summer/Fall 2021 and what it will bring.

The vaunted 'Megxit' review (vaunted from the Sussex side only) has been 'summarily cancelled'. Reading the tea leaves: It was an invention of the Sussexes and there was never any review. The only thing under review was the couple's security costs, which I believe Charles agreed to fund for one year only, pending their income. Now that they've trumpteted multimedia deals of $150 - 200,000 dollars about, Charles has sufficient reason to cease.

And if, as we suspect, the true financial picture is dire, those inflated deals having fallen through, because the Sussexes failed to impress on their 'spec' assignments . . It would behoove BP to let that leak out. Flush or broke--one year was the deal. A 36-year-old man is just gonna have to buck up and dig into his own pocket.

The Duke of Edinburgh does not want a big party and TTOC will likely be scaled down again. Some limited spectators will be allowed from those who purchased tickets for last year's event, but ER should have no one on the balcony with her again, to avoid more petulant snitfits emanating from California.

All eyes will be on July 1st. Will Harry attend, or boycott since Megsie won't be going? The Duchess of Windsor was never permitted to accompany her husband when he came to pay respects to his late brother and mother--Mugsy is Wallis 2.0. I think Wallis was not back in England until it came time to bury David in Windsor. Let us hope this does not give our Montecito Duchess any ideas.

Who knows what she's plotting now. She wants to be talked about constantly even for doing nothing. I'd say we shouldn't give her the satisfaction but what else do we have to do? :-p
Here's a DM article that says the medical team who delivered Archie didn't want to be identified by name, and that the Harkles also didn't want their names released.

Wouldn't that be a major coup for any doctor to deliver a member of the BRF? That's something that they'd want to put on their resumes. I can't believe that any doctor wouldn't want their names released in this case.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7018979/So-did-deliver-Baby-Archie-Buckingham-Palace-aides-refuse-medical-team.html

@madamlightfoot,
I agree that would be fabulous press for Portland Hospital and the individual doctors.

None of this adds up, and I'm very skeptical about the entire birth "story."
Pantsface said…
@Sandie - thanks for the explantion of travlyst or however it's spelt. To be honest, I think it's a load of guff - the idea not your post :)

The majority of us just want a break away, good weather and as cheap as possible, tbh I have never thought of sustainable travel when I book my 4 weeks a year in the costa's, for me the accomodation is key, but I'm happy to rough it with the ryanair crew to get there, although I do moan the entire flight :0)
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13898457/meghan-markle-erases-first-names-from-archie-birth-certificate/

I cannot even imagine to work out what motivated them to do this ... Harry and Meghan changed their names on Archie's birth certificate.

Is this got to do with branding? Who the heck thinks of branding for a birth certificate?

Or had they made an error in the original?

Surely the correct full name and title she can use because of being married to Harry at the time that Archie was born is Rachel Meghan, Duchess of Sussex? And at the time they were still allowed to use the HRH.
LavenderLady said…
@Jocelyn said,
New Lady C out. She calls Harry nuts and says he's setting himself up for a huge fall. She asks, "What does the couple (The Harkles) have to hide? What secret are they guarding so jealously?"... "They are pushing a censorship agenda." "They would prefer the world to be muzzled."

Lady C pulls no punches in this episode.

*

For sure! She doesn't disappoint with her delicious tea!! Ha ha... :D :D :D
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13898457/meghan-markle-erases-first-names-from-archie-birth-certificate/

I cannot even imagine to work out what motivated them to do this ... Harry and Meghan changed their names on Archie's birth certificate.

Is this got to do with branding? Who the heck thinks of branding for a birth certificate?

Or had they made an error in the original?

Surely the correct full name and title she can use because of being married to Harry at the time that Archie was born is Rachel Meghan, Duchess of Sussex? And at the time they were still allowed to use the HRH.
Catlady1649 said…
I've been catching up with all the posts on the blog. I'm still not getting e mails to notify me of updates. Don't know why !!
LavenderLady said…
Ha ha ha.. watched it again. LCC chews Harry a new one.
Sandie said…
Wallis did return to England with David. It was for the dedication ceremony for David's mother's statue (Queen Mary, the Queen's grandmother). There is a video, and as you can see, the Queen stops to chat to Wallis and David. I don't think she personally ever held a grudge.

https://youtu.be/roZyok-oTBU
Acquitaine said…
@Sandie, That birth certificate change is ridiculous.

By removing her given names she's actually erasing herself as a person. It's not a feminist issue. It's a matter of records. If all records are expunged, historians would simply find that a wife of DoS had a baby. And no hint as to her name to look for her history. In the same way that archaeologists find records of named people and all others erased because they were either unrecorded or they used titles that essentially un-personed them.

Further, the title exists only as courtesy and only if she remains married to Harry.

In the event of divorce and Harry remarriage, is the new DoSsex Archie's birth mother even if there are no children from the new marriage?

Another example of Meghan thinking herself clever whilst injuring herself.

Using the Tudors as an example, there is a reason we know the individual names of Henry 8 and not just their title as Queen of England ×6.

Actually, every Queen Consort that we know to name has made an effort of come out from behind the Queen of England title. The rest are a forgotten label - Queen of England. None distinguishable from the next.

xxxxx said…
Ridiculously named Travalyst was dreamed up pre-Covid when people had lots more money and could actually travel. My guess is that part of its angle was/is to make travel guilt free. This would be accomplished by booking in participating hotels and resorts that pass a green-sustainability exam. Also by placing travelers on more expensive air flights that have bought carbon offsets. Thus your round trip ticket to a tropical island will cost $400 more because X number of trees will be planted to make up for the CO2 your flight puts into the air.

These above ideas are silly to me, but millions in developed nations believe in them. There is a market for this a few years after Covid.

Btw--- Travalyst is such a nothing that Chrome would not spell correct it for me.
Magatha Mistie said…

Cheers Nutties 😘
Hope this puts a smile on your dial!

Recipe of the day:
Hamstrung/Pulled Dork

Harry thought Meghan would suit
She worked hard on tooting his flute
Once her ardour was dulled
His sex life was culled
He’s now left to shoot his own toot..

xxxxx said…
Ridiculously named Travalyst was dreamed up pre-Covid when people had lots more money and could actually travel. My guess is that part of its angle was/is to make travel guilt free. This would be accomplished by booking in participating hotels and resorts that pass a green-sustainability exam. Also by placing travelers on more expensive air flights that have bought carbon offsets. Thus your round trip ticket to a tropical island will cost $400 more because X number of trees will be planted to make up for the CO2 your flight puts into the air.

These above ideas are silly to me, but millions in developed nations believe in them. There is a market for this a few years after Covid.

Btw--- Travalyst is such a nothing that Chrome would not spell correct it for me.
KC said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...

Apologies for typos - I clicked `publish' instead of `edit' when about to correct them.

January 29, 2021 at 1:03 PM
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I bet all of us who preview do that at LEAST once. Hard to manage tiny buttons on a phone.
Magatha Mistie said…

Tossed Aside Salad

When all said and done
We’ve had so much fun
Not what they intended
We’ve had a laugh and a joke
At their poke salad woke
As their plans are revoked,
and up-ended

abbyh said…

Catlady 1649

I suspect it is because the blog is on moderate as this happens to me as well.

There was another post which looked like a duplicate (which was deleted). I hope this does not upset.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Tooting his flute 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for making us laugh :)
Opus said…
Hyacinth Bucket was played on television by Patricia Routledge (still alive). I saw Patricia Routledge on stage in the west end in 1960 playing Susan Hampshire's mother even though there is in reality only eight years difference in their ages. As with Angela Lansbury who aged thirty-five played opposite Elvis as his mother some actresses are gifted at appearing much older than they really are. Then again some men such as Brad Pitt are fifty-eight going on thirty-five and likewise Tom Cruise. Reality is so sexist and cruel to women.

I still don't believe a word the Harkles say and as far as I am concerned the photo of Her Majesty with the Harkles and the doll Archie is in my estimation photo-shopped. We are not however privy to the ways of the Monarchy.
Hikari said…
@Sandie,

Thanks for the information that Wallis did visit England after her marriage. Was it just the one occasion, before David’s death?

There is precedent then, for the unpopular American wife of Renegade former Royal who reneged on his duty to be allowed to attend the statue dedication to a deceased mother. There’s one point to Megsie. Which is why I am surprised that Meg’s non-attendance is being touted now, 5 months away. The Queen is a gracious lady whatever her actual feelings. I doubt very much she would ban Smeg’s from visiting the family, but the statue dedication for Diana is nota BP organized event, I presume that William has full oversight over the ceremony and not even his father will be involved. William is no doubt being strongly encouraged to invite both Sussexes due to PR concerns.

Since Meg had used an ostensible medical excuse as the reason she couldn’t participate in the trial, if she pops up in London looking hale in the summer, the judge might push the trial forward. If she is pushing pregnancy as the excuse, she’d be “due” right at that time. We will just have to see what happens.
Catlady1649 said…
@abbyh
Thank you for the reply. I suspected this might be the reason
Acquitaine said…
@Opus said…
"......Then again some men such as Brad Pitt are fifty-eight going on thirty-five and likewise Tom Cruise. Reality is so sexist and cruel to women."

Only if you don't look too close and ignore the cosmetic improvements. Tom Cruise has alot of improvement and maintenance work.

Brad Pitt not as extensive, but he indulges in the standard maintenance.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki
Just for you 😉

Humper, Dumper, feet like Thumper

As she laid on her back
She planned her attack
Grabbing daft Haz by the balls
With Markus and Co
They rammed her big toe
In the crack of the palace walls..


jessica said…
The DM article explaining Meghan’s change of name on the birth certificate still lists as the location of Birth as Paddington. Portland is not in Paddington.

Seems to me this birth certificate is just a made up one in Megs PR Files.
Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said…
"Wallis did return to England with David. It was for the dedication ceremony for David's mother's statue (Queen Mary, the Queen's grandmother). There is a video, and as you can see, the Queen stops to chat to Wallis and David. I don't think she personally ever held a grudge."

Who didn't bear a grudge?

The grudge between Wallis and The Queen mother was / is infamous. Started long before the abdication with QM thinking that Wallis was a bad influence on David then thinking she was a parvenu who didn't know her place.

It's a well documented grudge / feud.

Likewise Queen Mary had no time for Wallis for different reasons, but ultimately couldn't understand what power she held over David that he would ruin himself.

She was never a warm parent, but as David later said,'She had ice in her veins!', in reaction to her on-going coldness to him and Wallis post-abdication.

Frankly i'm surprised they were invited to the dedication and that they actually accepted because Wallis Diaries about this event emphasised how much she didn't want to be there and how cold entire family were to her.

And The Queen Mother was famously two-faced. The type of person who has a very pleasant public face whilst hating your guts in private and actively working against you. She did it to Wallis and to Diana.



Acquitaine said…
@jessica said…
"The DM article explaining Meghan’s change of name on the birth certificate still lists as the location of Birth as Paddington. Portland is not in Paddington."

The only hospital in Paddington is St Marys and it has the private Lindo wing.

Has the certificate been changed to extent that Archie was born at the Lindo Wing and not The Portland?

If this is true it brings to mind a recent youtube analysis of Meghan's court case where they said that Meghan often tells big lies that she corrects later on and hope no one notices the big change. The woman is an incorrigible liar who actively enjoys telling big lies. And if people or legal documents let her get away with the big lie then she adopts the lie, but if she's found out then she's being victimised and bullied by the person forcing her to correct the lie.



Maneki Neko said…
Thank you, Magatha :)
Maneki Neko said…
@Acquitaine and Jessica

The birth was officially at the Portland, which is in the district of Westminster and not Paddington but for there was a reason why it says Paddington. I can't remember the explanation for it. I thing Wild Boar Battle-Maid explained it at the time.
The district of Paddington is in the borough of Westminster so I can understand 'Paddington, Westminster' for the Lindo wing but not the Portland.
WBBM, I think you explained it.
jessica said…
Looks to me it’s just Meghan trying her best to remind the RF she is HRH duch suss.

More PR, I doubt she cares about the actual birth certificate beyond her PR stunts
Ian's Girl said…
Maybe the name change was to distract from the fact that the location was also changed?

I also thought changes to a birth certificate had to be done through legal channels, but maybe that's an American thing? Or one royals don't have to bother with?
I just can't see Grip passing up an opportunity to go back to the UK with Drip.

If for no other reason than the merching ££££££. Seems The Harkles aren't really drawing in the money right now.
Sandie said…
@Aquitaine

Have a look at the video. Then it will be quite clear which Queen I am referring to ... she who was on the throne as the reigning queen, and still is.

@Hikari

Wallis did accompany David to London for him to have eye surgery a couple of years before this dedication ceremony. The reigning queen at the time, who is still on the throne, visited them.

There are contradictory stories from people who knew Wallis and the Queen mother, but one friend suggested that they were so different and the Queen mother just could not understand or relate to Wallis, rather than hold a bitter grudge. It must have been difficult for her to understand how a couple can show what she regarded as such reckless disregard for duty and honour, I suppose.
Sandie said…
I checked the official government office for rules and procedures for making changes to a birth certificate. The Sussex situation is not even under consideration. I guess they never foresaw that someone would not know what their name is or where their child was born!
Hikari said…
Aquitaine,

I had been under the impression that QM was the one person Diana felt was an ally at the Palace. Legend has it that Diana often visited her and they watched television together. Didn’t Di stay at Clarence House before the wedding?

Since QM was most keen on the match, colluding with Lady Fermoy, and Diana’s pedigree was impeccable, when was the ostracism meant to have started? Was it after Diana began behaving erratically and causing her to get an earful of complaints from her pet, Charles? Or was it from the beginning, with a vindictive QM enjoying mental warfare against a fragile young girl for sport? If the latter, that would be quite sociopathic.

I’m not disputing your info; it’s just very disheartening the more I learn about this woman. Bertie worshiped his Queen, Telling his daughter that her mother was “the most excellent person in my eyes”. The thought that she had him snowed so well along with all the millions of the British people who loved her makes me really sad.
Magatha Mistie said…

Certifiable

By changing his certificate
Is Archie now legitimate
Nah, it’s just another shill
From Megsie and her poisoned quill
Hoping for Queens final blow
Removing Megs HRH logo

Natalier said…
Meghan has been desperately trying to make themselves the defining Duke and Duchess of Sussex by adding THE to their titles. She started using THE in their IG before Megxit. Well, I will always remind people that they are the 2nd Duke and Duchess of Sussex and no better than the 1st. Both Dukes and Duchesses better forgotten and done with.
Hikari said…
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/transition-playbook/2021/01/29/the-meena-problem-491577

Bad news for Mugsy...Kamala Harris has a smart, ambitious, attractive niece named Meena. 36 years old, mother of two, Stanford graduate, lawyer, producer, children’s book author and creator of a statement fashion line called Phenomenal that raises funds for charity. So it looks like there are no slots for adoption in the Harris/Emhoff family. Kamala already has a mentee and daughter substitute.

When her aunt was Nominated as Biden’s VP, Meena wasted no time in capitalizing on her family connections to make money. She published a children’s book based on Kamala’s childhood and tried to get her T-shirts trademarked as official Biden/Harris merchandise. Like Meg she is “ambitious”—Which equates to “hustles to make money” in both cases. Only 10 days into the new Administration, Meena is already being labeled a problem. Just like someone else we could mention. That someone will be copying Meena’s fashion and book ideas very soon—Look for an announcement about a picture book starring child Meg taking on the big old mean sexist dish soap company and cherishing her cat Archie to death. Thomas’s role in this glowing juvenile autobiography will be played by Doria, the woke Black parent who has always been there for Meg and taught her everything.




https://www.politico.com/newsletters/transition-playbook/2021/01/29/the-meena-problem-491577
hunter said…
I say Meghan won't accompany Harry to the UK not only because they all hate her but because she would be expected to arrive with Archie.

By staying in California there is a plausible excuse for why we will (again) not see him publicly.
Hikari said…
thephilibetharchive:Prince Philip Appreciation Post

https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/post/641777353257811968


A selection of photos of young Prince Philip. A blond god as a schoolboy; morphed into a William Holden lookalike circa the engagement...Scroll down to number six in this array. Is that cheeky Harry in naval whites? Nope...but how uncanny is this?

The “James Hewitt is Harry’s father” rumors die right here. Harry is a Mountbatten through and through. Too bad the resemblance is only skin deep.
Fifi LaRue said…
There was something elsewhere on the internet that Rachel Meghan Markle had changed the birth certificate of "Archie" to be Her Highness the Duchess of Sussex."

That must have been a lot of pencil erasings, photo copying, and endless trips to Office Max to get the birth certificate just right.
@Flore said…
@Hikari
“ Meg taking on the big old mean sexist dish soap company”

Thanks for the laugh! I have never seen such a silly anecdote and for a grown woman to keep on bragging about this is beyond ridiculous! It only goes to show that the self proclaimed feminist has never done anything worthwhile for the cause.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Natalier: Haha! MeghanThee Stalion was there first!
Maybe Meghan can compete with CardiB.
So, I looked at some of my web stats that cover Meghan's online popularity, as well as Google's tracker itself...
The most popular day since Megxit was August 3rd, 2020 and it's been a steep decline since. That's when news of her house purchase broke. No one cares about Netflix, nor Spotify news. Netflix (September 8th) gave her a one day spike in interest, but still 40% less than where she was with her Montecito house news.

Then of course the miscarriage story bumped her a bit nationwide, but had very limited effect on the people who are interested in her and Harry and their story/mystery (core group doesn't buy it and has no interest in her victim narrative).

All in all, the fall in Meghan's internet popularity as a percentage is -87.5% (!!!).



Superfly said…
Both Portland and St Mary's are in the City of Westminster.

Also, no. MM 'giving birth' at the Portland is not necessary publicity for the hospital or the doctors. They already are famous in their own right. Wealthy and/or famous ppl from all over the world choose that hospital to deliver their babies.
Acquitaine said…
@Natalier said…
"Meghan has been desperately trying to make themselves the defining Duke and Duchess of Sussex by adding THE to their titles. She started using THE in their IG before Megxit. Well, I will always remind people that they are the 2nd Duke and Duchess of Sussex and no better than the 1st. Both Dukes and Duchesses better forgotten and done with."

Actually that is the correct form.

Every definitive title holder no matter which creation of their title is THE. For once Meghan is using it correctly.

The people who use Queen / King DoS / DoC / PoW / DoY / CoW etc without definitive THE who are using it wrong.

THE is used instead of any first names.

Children of THE monarch also acquire THE infront of their first names eg THE Prince Charles or THE Prince Edward or THE Prince Andrew or THE Princess Anne.

When Charles becomes King, William and Harry will become THE Prince William or THE Prince Henry.

The only circumstances were THE is not used is where a divorce has taken place. At that point the woman loses THE, regains her first name and a acquires a coma between her first name and the diminished title eg THE Princess of Wales became Diana, Princess of Wales. Likewise THE Duchess of York became Sarah, Duchess of York.

When people refer to Megsy as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex they are saying she's divorced from Harry. Ditto people who refer to Kate as Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge or Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall.

If they do divorce and Harry remarries, his new wife will be THE Duchess of Sussex leaving Megsy as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. And if he remarries several times, the current wife will always carry THE Duchess of Sussex form whilst the divorced wives are reduced to First name, Duchess of Sussex.
Acquitaine said…
@Superfly said......

"Both Portland and St Mary's are in the City of Westminster.

Also, no. MM 'giving birth' at the Portland is not necessary publicity for the hospital or the doctors. They already are famous in their own right. Wealthy and/or famous ppl from all over the world choose that hospital to deliver their babies."

The Portland is world famous already and doesn't need publicity, but having a royal birth is a feather in their cap. Every hospital and doctor regardless of their credentials wants that kudos next to their name.

It's why royalty is several rungs above celebrity. And it's something that can not be bought no matter how wealthy or famous the usual clientele.
Acquitaine said…
@Hikari, Initially The QM was friendly with Diana, but once Diana started misbehaving she became less friendly to the extent that she facilitated the resurgent Camilla - Charles affair.


Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said....

"@Aquitaine

Have a look at the video. Then it will be quite clear which Queen I am referring to ... she who was on the throne as the reigning queen, and still is."

Our current Queen always fell in line with whatever her mother told her to do. By that i mean that she didn't go out of her way to be friendly to anyone her mother deemed persona non grata.

However, our Queen is polite and will do polite pleasantries in public with people she despises and or are beyond the pale. That video shows her technique.

Behind the scenes we know she never made any effort with Wallis, and only visited her once - and only because David was on his death bed.

To her, Wallis was a non-person. Polite in public because that is how she was raised. The British are masters at that art form.


Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said.....

"There are contradictory stories from people who knew Wallis and the Queen mother, but one friend suggested that they were so different and the Queen mother just could not understand or relate to Wallis, rather than hold a bitter grudge. It must have been difficult for her to understand how a couple can show what she regarded as such reckless disregard for duty and honour, I suppose."

There are no contradictory stories about their relationship. Yes, they were different people with different interests and approaches to life, but their mutual dislike was documented long before the abdication to extent that we know Wallis publicly disparaged The QM because she thought she was fat, frumpy and unfashionably dull whilst The QM thought she was a presumptious parvenu.

That dislike calcified into a grudge once the abdication took place and The QM together with Queen Mary made sure that Wallis never received any goodies if they could help it.


On the occasion of that Queen Mary unveiling, they wrote letters to individual friends about dreading seeing each other. Those letters have since been become public. There is even a docu-drama about these letters - Royal Wives at War which quotes extensively from them.
Acquitaine said…
@ Maneki Neko said...
"@Acquitaine and Jessica

The birth was officially at the Portland, which is in the district of Westminster and not Paddington but for there was a reason why it says Paddington. I can't remember the explanation for it. I thing Wild Boar Battle-Maid explained it at the time.
The district of Paddington is in the borough of Westminster so I can understand 'Paddington, Westminster' for the Lindo wing but not the Portland.
WBBM, I think you explained it."

I live in Paddington so i know where St Marys (Lindo Wing) and The Portland are situated.

Being in the same district, Westminster, doesn't mean they are close to each other.

St Mary's and indeed Paddington are within easy walking distance of KP. I'd put it at 15-20mins walking distance depending on how fast you walk.

Portland is much further away from KP and requires driving. If you were determined to walk to Portland, it would take about 40mins at least.
Sandie said…
Interesting ... the birth certificate was changed to be the same as William's, and I assume Harry's:

https://home.bt.com/news/on-this-day/june-21-1982-a-future-king-arrives-as-princess-diana-gives-birth-to-prince-william-11363987656319?s_cid=con_cic_aff_affwin_vidAJM_broadband_78888&vendorid=AJM&utm_source=Affwin&utm_medium=Ref&utm_campaign=78888&awc=3041_1612087152_64170bef2831f5b8ca74c97884d9eafc

Harry probably got told off by Meghan 'for getting it wrong' and had to change it. (William thus being shown up for 'getting it wrong' on his children's birth certificates ... it is only the Sussexes who can 'modernize' the monarchy and do things differently, if they wish to!)

My experience of narcs is that they always find fault, reprimand, give instructions, among other things ... Harry has probably accepted all the drama of love bombing/devaluing as a normal part of marriage/signs of a great love, and will stick to it, unlike his father. Or maybe he will grow a pair and bolt!
Sandie said…
@Puds

You bring up two interesting points:

They still got the address for place of residence wrong? Deliberate? Is there not someone at the registry office who can check and ensure that the information is correct?

Can Meghan be a Princess of the United Kingdom if she is an American citizen? Perhaps there are no rules because no one foresaw such a situation? Phillip only got his titles when he became a naturalized British citizen.
HappyDays said…
Kiwichik said: The anon shared that her trip to Toronto after the wedding was for a cocaine fuelled weekend and how she had not been able to yet access her supplies as easily in the UK or party with friends.

@Kiwichick: Your comment jogged my memory of a Crazy Days and Nights blind item from Meghan’s trip to New York City just four months after Archie’s birth, allegedly to watch her “close friend” Serena Williams play in the US Open tennis final. According to the blind item, in addition to watching tennis, Meghan used the trip to score some high-quality drugs, and my guess is like many Hollywood types and people who are frequently photographed, cocaine is their drug of choice to stay slim or lose weight. The blind talked about a drug dealer to the elites was alerted to stock up on his best drugs for very VIP person who hasn’t been able to use for a while was traveling to NYC for the weekend and was looking to score some of the best drugs he had to offer.

It would be easy for Meghan to stock up in New York and bring as much drugs as she wanted back to the UK with her because I understand that royals are treated as diplomats when entering back into the UK, which means their luggage is not searched by UK customs officials.
Sandie said…
Queen Elizabeth II was never antagonistic toward Wallis or David.

When David died, Wallis stayed at BP for the funeral and Queen Elizabeth II asked her to stay on in an apartment at BP after the funeral. Wallis declined and went back to France and I think did not return to the UK until her own funeral. Queen Elizabeth II would not have made the offer if she thought it would deeply offend her mother, who was still alive at the time.

In about a generation from now, people will insist that it is well documented that William and Rose Hanbury had an affair, as all sorts of opinions will become well documented evidence and the story gets embellished. There never was an affair and what was written before William took action was made up stuff.
lizzie said…
Both York princesses were born at Portland Hospital.

I can understand a physician not seeking out publicity. I cannot understand a physician actively resisting publicity if the patient wishes to reveal the doctor's identity. In other words, medical privacy protects the patient, not the doctor! From the announcement by H&M you'd think medical privacy laws were designed to offer equal protection to patients AND their doctors. Not only the physicians but the midwives attending Kate were identified. While there were a few articles about them, so far as I know, they weren't swamped by reporters. And as others have said, if M chose a female team to make s point, why not "advertise" them?

It is odd the skill of M's team was never mentioned by H&M. How unsatisfactory could the team have been if she was in and out in record time with a supposedly healthy baby?
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Sandie said…
By the way, I am not saying that it is incorrect that the Queen Mother and Wallis did not like each other. Both enjoyed gossipy lunches with friends and acquaintances, the QM with a few glasses of alcohol involved, and Alis was also a grwat letter writer, so no doubt they did express their dislike of each other. But that has all been hyped up to a ridiculous degree.

Before their father died, David and Bertie used to socialise a lot, includng weekends in the country. Elizabeth (she who would become Queen Elizabeth and then Queen Mother) and Wallis were also present as wife and mistress respectively. So, they had plenty of occasions to find out that they were not each other's cup of tea.

Ironically, they had a lot in common. Both liked long lunches with friends and acquaintances, always dressed impeccably, liked spectacular jewellery ...
Opus said…
Well I knew my passing remark would be likely to produce howls of protest from those with different genitalia. It may well be that Pitt and Cruise receive cosmetic surgery - I have no idea - but they certainly look no older than thirty and I cannot think that any woman of comparable age can do likewise. What is more amazing though to me especially concerning Cruise is just how fit he is and indeed how brave. There is no way that even for his paycheque that I would jump across a London street from one building to another or sit barefoot on the top of the world's tallest building. Just thinking of it gives me vertigo. Really, I need to go and lie down. America is obsessed with the pursuit of immortality, an obsession ultimately doomed to failure.

Of course some male actors have always too looked older than their age and have played old men even in their prime and without special make-up. Sid James (pre Carry On) for instance, and John Cleese always looked middle-aged before middle age caught up with him. It cannot be that English actors are just naturally older. Roger Moore aged seventy in a rather nice movie called The Quest with Jean-Claude van Damme at the end gets the girl - not van Damme - convincingly too.

I find in the war of the Duchesses and even without skin-whitening (not required) and other procedures that Cambridge is very attractive, but Sussex not so much. With Sussex the fakeness - and slutiness - just oozes through. I know this to be true because my nether regions make clear where beauty lies. This I believe is a test that women cannot carry out which is probably why women seem - to men - to talk so much nonsense about other women. You are after all female trades-unionists - all for one and one for all. Likewise of course men are mystified as to what 'she sees in him'. Men respond to their own sex in a non-sexual manner, those qualities in men that we see being oblivious usually to females.

My mother was all for keeping up appearances so much so that to her face my brother called her Mrs Bucket - not that there was an Onslow. So embarrassing. For my parents it was always 1937 combined with the attempt to return there. Such is life: for me it is always 1966 or 1977 or 1985 or something.
lizzie said…
@Opus wrote

"It may well be that Pitt and Cruise receive cosmetic surgery - I have no idea - but they certainly look no older than thirty..."

Look no older than thirty? In what, dog years? They are physically attractive but I'd never mistake either of them for being less than 45.

It's true though that society views aging differently depending on the sex of the person.
HappyDays said…

Acquitaine said....If they do divorce and Harry remarries, his new wife will be THE Duchess of Sussex leaving Megsy as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. And if he remarries several times, the current wife will always carry THE Duchess of Sussex form whilst the divorced wives are reduced to First name, Duchess of Sussex.

@Acquitaine: I am wondering if Meghan would retain any title at all if she and Harry eventually divorce. Diana and Sarah Ferguson kept their titles even though they both lost the HRH style because they were both citizens of the UK.

Meghan never bothered to become a citizen of the UK and from what I remember from the British commentators during the wedding coverage, any titles she had would be courtesy titles until she obtained citizenship. Well, she had no interest in obtaining British citizenship because as a narcissist, she was only planning on spending a minimal amount of time in the UK to get married, have/get a quickie baby an run back to the State to bank her newfound fame and status into extraordinary wealth.

I think her lack of British citizenship would probably exclude her from being allowed to keep using a royal title of any kind in the event of a divorce from Harry. She is not like Diana or Fergie due that pesky problem of never legally becoming a British citizen. It would be an easy and most likely be a legitimate excuse for The Queen, Charles, or William to be relieve her of any and all titles she currently has, especially if the parting from Harry is as acrimonious as I think it will be. They could say the titles were courtesy titles given to her based on the assumption she was going to become a British citizen.

People with narcissistic personality disorder are extremely nasty in a divorce. They usually go for a scorched earth approach. I think a Harry and Meghan divorce would make the Paul McCartney-Heather Mills divorce look like a Sunday church picnic and include leaks or leaked lies from Meghan aimed at damaging the monarchy and targeting individual members of the RF.

If she doesn’t lose her titles in a divorce, she would likely spend the rest of her life abusing and sullying the titles. Narcs are an extremely vicious and vindictive personality type, and no legal agreement, including an NDA will stand in their way. After-divorce legal battles, including child custody battles, will continue because such battles will keep Meghan’s name in the headlines.

So no matter who is monarch at the time of a Sussex divorce, they would be smart to be proactive and remove her titles on the grounds that as I wrote above, they were courtesy titles based on the assumption she would become a British citizen. She never even took any steps to start the process, so it could be argued that Meghan obtained her titles by deception with no intention of ever making her permanent residence in the UK, and never intending to spend her life in service to the UK and the Commonwealth as a working royal.

Married or not married to Harry, Meghan will portray herself as a victim (because narcissists always fall back on the victim narrative) and she will remain a thorn in the side of the royal family for the remainder of her life.



Does anyone who had
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Pitt and Cruise...Hahahah. Cruise is much more intesne and looks like he is a serious excerciser. I am curious what he does for that. By comparison Brad is laid back and soft. With Angelina he got deep into marijuana, so it seems. I favor neither. They both have been in movies I liked.
I rather have a drink with Brad. Cruise is too brainwashed via scientology.
Superfly said…
Aquaitane, you are wrong and I will explain to you why.

1. Plenty of British Royals have already given birth at the Portland, and none of them was ever some d-list LA actress of a minor cable show. Nobody important, wealthy or both, could give 2 hoots where MM allegedly gave birth. The Portland would not either.

2. Plenty of international Royal have given birth at the Portland. Queens, Princesses, from all over the world, and nobody cared whether MM did or not. They did so because of the Portland hospital's reputation, not because of MM.

3. A Royal endorsement can indeed be great for a company, but it does not mean that NOT having Royal endorsement, does the opposite. For example, if you look at Asprey's vs Hermes, there is no completion, no question, as to which company is better, does better, is more iconic or whatnot.

4. A nobody such as myself gave birth at the Portland. It was before MM. Would I have chosen the Portland because MM chose it? LOL.....

5. The doctors at the Portland are already some fo the top doctors IN THE WORLD in their profession. MM would not elevate their positions any further.

Americans still don't understand that in Britain, nobody gives 2 figs about her. Why do you think she left? She's a nothing and a nobody here. Nobody cares who she endorse, promotes, what she says or does. Not the people, not doctors or nurses, not the RF, nobody. She's a laughing stock and in fact if anything, she taints anyone she's associated with.
LavenderLady said…
@Opus,
I found your thoughts on gender and age very interesting.

Somehow this comment: "I know this to be true because my nether regions make clear where beauty lies", brought to mind your own Liz Hurley. I think she's right up there with Cruise in that she has maintained her sex appeal long after her sell by date; though it takes zero bravery to strip off solely for the purpose of stirring someone's 'nether regions"...

I am unusual for a woman because I can put aside any indignation that my femaleness may want to possess, and actually see the man's point of view. I may not agree but I can understand how men feel and think. As a woman, I can easily grasp why Kate is considered attractive and a keeper and why Meghan is for a good time not a long time. And it does not involve any regions of my anatomy other than my brain.

I have to comment too that I totally get it when you say for you it's still 1966,1977, or 1985 or something. I believe we humans do have a tendency to stay in the era in which we came of age or were just young and fulfilled. It takes great courage to allow those earlier times to gently pass and to embrace our elderhood. Many mental distresses come with the inability to do so. I myself allow myself moments where I go back to 1975. But only for a little while. It makes me happy to allow a time portal moment. It makes the present less undesirable.

@Happy Days,
A very astute commentary on the legality of Meghan not retaining her title due to lack of citizenship. It sure raises some questions. Well said!!
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM,
Re: The Dig. I did read about the controversy concerning the female archaeologist. It's with tongue in cheek I say this: isn't it just like NF to cast the likes of Lily James to sexualize an important historical figure?
And I'm not slut shaming. Dominic is just as sleazy IMO. I view them as equally as slutty lol.

I am curious as the why the artifacts were originally thought to belong to the Crown and not to Mrs. Pretty?
LavenderLady said…
@Superfly,
As an American, I can say with assurance no one cares about Meghan and Harry. Not we plebs anywho. It's those individuals who wish to exlpoit any connection to the Crown that the Sussex's may possess. Can anyone say Oprah Winfrey?


The everyday main stream American man and woman are too busy idolizing (and making very rich) eejits like the K family.
LavenderLady said…
@Superfly,
Correction. I misread your post. I see now that I'm on my laptop versus my wee phone, that you were saying it's those in Britain that don't care what Meghan thinks. Sorry. My bad. :)
Acquitaine said…
@Opus said…
".....It may well be that Pitt and Cruise receive cosmetic surgery - I have no idea - but they certainly look no older than thirty and I cannot think that any woman of comparable age can do likewise. What is more amazing though to me especially concerning Cruise is just how fit he is and indeed how brave. There is no way that even for his paycheque that I would jump across a London street from one building to another or sit barefoot on the top of the world's tallest building. ...."

Not even if that cheque was north of $50M? Lol.

Then again, the incentive includes funding a religion that treats him as a literal god which is probably worth the effort to jump across a street as an exchange.

Full disclosure: i'm obsessed with celebrity cosmetic procedures. I can write essays about the procedures famous people had done. Including Kate Middleton or the current POTUS.... Don't mind me. Lol.






Acquitaine said…
@Happy days: by law only UK / Commonwealth citizens can have or use the titles derived from the British Crown.

To that end a divorce would automatically strip Meghan of her HRH by dint of the Letters Patent 1917 AND the duchess, Countess and Baroness titles by dint of not being a UK / Commonwealth citizen.

Right now the titles are held only by courtesy of her marriage to Harry.

This is why her erasing herself from Archie's birth certificate is idiotic because a divorce from Harry will divorce her from all titles completely.

Methinks she changed the birth certificate as a branding exercise because at that point they were applying for trademarks on SussexRoyal brand they were creating.

It's crazy that given the choice of being known to history as Archie's mother definitively, she erases herself and Archie is born of a title which will be held by Harry's subsequent wives in the event of divorce and remarriage.
Acquitaine said…
@Superfly said…
"Aquaitane, you are wrong and I will explain to you why....."

You completely misunderstand my point. And i think you completely miss the difference between British royalty vs other royalty and the specific kudos the BR endorsement brings to an institution.

It's not a publicity thing in the conventional sense.

And i doubt everybody who uses the Portland or even the Lindo wing does so specifically because the royals used it nor was i making that argument.

...but it gives the institution an extra special something that can't be bought.

In the same way that charities like the NPG are enhanced by having Royal patrons despite thriving very well without them.

If the nuance is lost on you then let me use a different analogy.

Do you think that Hilary Clinton / Jacinda Arden would have tweeted / met Meghan if she wasn't elevated to royalty? She didn't bring any talent to the table and as we now know is completely without substance.

Hilary and Jacinda are substantive, impressive people themselves and yet they couldn't wait to meet / tweet about Meghan. And they did that purely because of her royalty.

That type of enhanced kudos is what the BR bring to the table despite the real, impressive accomplishments of the people or services they use.

You have accomplished billionaires falling over themselves in their eagerness to have that royal connection even if it is with the disgraced Andrew.

It's something that can't be bought unlike celebrity.




Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said…
"Queen Elizabeth II was never antagonistic toward Wallis or David.

When David died, Wallis stayed at BP for the funeral and Queen Elizabeth II asked her to stay on in an apartment at BP after the funeral. Wallis declined and went back to France and I think did not return to the UK until her own funeral. Queen Elizabeth II would not have made the offer if she thought it would deeply offend her mother, who was still alive at the time."

The Queen has never been openly antagonistic to anyone, but the fact that she never bothered with Wallis and David even when she had the power to do so speaks to the category she placed them in. Her way of dealing with unpleasantries is to freeze them out or do the bare minimum if she must.

We know the very few occasions she was in contact with Wallis. Pleasantly executed, but done so at minimum effort or extending herself.

As for putting up Wallis at BP. That's on a par with putting Harry in FC. The Queen doesn't like BP and spends as much time as she can get away with at Windsor Castle. If she thought well of Wallis, she would have invited her to stay at Windsor not BP.

The least she could do was offer BP.

Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said......


"In about a generation from now, people will insist that it is well documented that William and Rose Hanbury had an affair, as all sorts of opinions will become well documented evidence and the story gets embellished. There never was an affair and what was written before William took action was made up stuff."

If only history recording was as simple as a few social media rumours without substantive sources and research.

The so-called Rose Hanbury - William affair has no sources. People saying stuff on twitter doesn't make it true or substantive.

And let's say someone believes it, show the sources.

Anyone who doesn't look at sources, social history, reactions and biases of everyone around them, but simply takes twitter as gospel is going to be someone who believes anything.
LavenderLady said…
@Aquataine said,
By law only UK / Commonwealth citizens can have or use the titles derived from the British Crown.

To that end a divorce would automatically strip Meghan of her HRH by dint of the Letters Patent 1917 AND the duchess, Countess and Baroness titles by dint of not being a UK / Commonwealth citizen.

*

Oh crap!! There goes my hope for that divorce. Now she will never let go of Harry's Crown Jewels.

My hopes are dashed for reals. I'm not kidding. I've been sitting on my popcorn waiting for the news that they will divorce.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Nutties, do any of you think there's a chance he will petition for the divorce?

Fingers crossed.
Opus said…
I don't usually laugh out-loud when reading this blog but WBBMs 'Can't have people thinking that Archie was a found in a handbag in a railway cloakroom with a second-class ticket to the Duchy of Cornwall in his pocket at the time' had me choking on my coffee - and they say women aren't funny. lol

WBBM is also exactly right and without being at all funny about registrations of birth. Knocking up a fake certificate is I am afraid child's play and even a genuine one is no more than a certificate of something recorded elsewhere. Everything as to Archie Cornwall's birth was odd ergo he does not exist. There is more evidence for a man in red coming down my chimney once a year.

Fitzrovia (as I believe we have here discussed before) will not be found on any map and is merely a name that denotes by convention a certain part of London, north of Oxford Street.

Is archaeology a real subject? I have seen Time Team and thus can state clearly that you dig in a field and find a bone or a coin from which you extrapolate with coloured drawings an entire society of people their dress possessions and houses - and all in just two days. Take that Piltdown man for instance.... the fabrication of a local solicitor. The again there are the Dinosaurs where no complete skeleton has ever been found and don't get me going on the wishful thinking which is out of africa.....
Sutton Hoo gold & jewellery would have been deemed Treasure Trove.

`Treasure trove is an amount of money or coin, gold, silver, plate, or bullion found hidden underground or in places such as cellars or attics, where the treasure seems old enough for it to be presumed that the true owner is dead and the heirs undiscoverable.' (Wikipedia's definition).

There is a legal process to be gone through first, to decided whether it was simply lost and whether the lawful owner is in a position to claim it, or whether it was parted from its owner in time out of mind.

In short, it's treated more or less as the assets of anybody who dies without a valid will and with no proven kin to claim it. It goes to the Crown (Not the RF! It becomes the property of the state). The landowner & finder are, however, entitled to remuneration based on the estimated value. It's considered part of the National Heritage.

Usually, if the state does have ownership, the items go to a museum, often the BM, or perhaps to a regional one, like the Staffordshire Hoard in Birmingham.

The law applies to gold and silver items but not to bronze ones.
LavenderLady said…
@Aquataine said,
Then again, the incentive includes funding a religion that treats him as a literal god which is probably worth the effort to jump across a street as an exchange.

*

It wouldn't shock me at all if TC is in some form of bondage to his repulsive "church". They need him for the tax free donations he makes...

Is it no surprise it has been alleged that MehGoon is attracted to Scientology? Except she would want to be top dog.
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM,

Awesome...thanks! I don't always trust what Wiki has to say.

I will research what the dif is between the Crown and the RF. :)
No Opus, both archaeology and palaeontology are are rigorous disciplines, even if you infer the opposite it from, say, Tony Robinson or Neil Oliver.

If I went on telly and spoke about the local council's parking regulations, I doubt if you'd dismiss the entire legal system as an empty construct, built on the assumption that their power to fine me for overstaying was a sole and adequate foundation for the Law.
LavenderLady said…
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Question fellow Nutties:


We have been debating the changing of items on "Archie"s birth certificate.

The changes were actually made 6 June 2019
BUT
The Sun printed the article about it 21 January 2021.

Why wait 18 months?

WHY NOW???
LavenderLady said…
Edited:
Going back into reading mode for now. I have a lot to do IRL right now and don't want to monopolize the blog. Especially since we're on moderation.

Cheers everyone!
@WBBM,

Yes, archaeology is a rigorous discipline. I took many archaeology classes in college (I'm just a few classes short of a degree), and was one of the few lucky ones whom my archaeology professor asked to work with him on a dig in South America for the summer. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I was the editor of the daily newspaper at the time, and had to make a choice between continuing as editor during the summer or giving the position up to do the dig. I chose the newspaper editorship. I've always wondered what my life would have been like if I had chosen to go on that dig and had pursued archaeology as a career.


@Opus,

Maybe this will give you a better idea of what archaeologists do, and it is nothing like what you see on television. It requires a four-year degree at minimum, but most archaeologists have their masters or doctorates to really get anywhere in the field. Archaeology covers a range of disciplines, from geology to biology to history, from working in the field to working in a laboratory. It is a science-based field, and if you don't know exactly what you're doing, you can do serious damage to artifacts or dig sites.

https://www.saa.org/about-archaeology/archaeology-as-a-career

Maneki Neko said…
I looked on amazon.com and saw Samantha's book with the date 26 January. You can look inside the book, there is the list of all 36 chapters and some excerpts of chapters 1 and 2. I gave them a very cursory look, it's just the start of Thomas's life and when he was drafted in to go to Vietnam.
The book can be shipped to the UK, should anybody be interested.

https://tinyurl.com/yy48v5qp
Sandie said…
The Sussexes have put out a statement saying that they were instructed by The Palace to make the changes on the birth certificate.

Who at the palace, and on what grounds?

Why was William not instructed by The Palace to change the birth certificates of his three children?

Wanda said…
An interesting psychological angle to consider in the Meghan Markle and Prince Harry story is the theory of the Dark Triad which I don't think I've seen explored here before.

The Dark Triad consists of the following:

Narcissism:
Narcissistic people can be selfish, boastful, arrogant, lacking in empathy, and hypersensitive to criticism.

Machiavellianism:
Traits associated with Machiavellianism include duplicity, manipulation, self-interest, and a lack of both emotion and morality.

Psychopathy:
Personality traits associated with psychopathy include a lack of empathy or remorse, antisocial behavior, and being manipulative and volatile.


One amazing observation is the number of people with narcissistic traits who are attracted to others with the same undesirable flaws. It's been noted that even those who are familiar with the concept of narcissistic personality disorder and have recognized the pattern in close personal encounters with others in their past, are still drawn to narcissists as they move through life.

It is thought that many such people are narcissists themselves however they fail to RECOGNIZE this fact. A narcissist would of course never consider that they themselves are flawed in any way and they are very easily susceptible to the love-bombing efforts of another narc no matter how intelligent they may or may not be.

I often think about how these trends may be at play in Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's relationship. Although Harry may not recognize the disorder in others or himself, he might be attracted to this type of personality for numerous reasons.

It’s interesting to note that a less intelligent narc may be more responsive to the gaslighting of one with a higher level of Machiavellian traits.
@Flore said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9205463/How-Kate-Middleton-Megxit-helped-heal-Prince-William-Prince-Charless-relationship.html

Great puff PR piece for Charles and the Cambridges. I am not aware of the author’s background but Megalo must be fuming!
The one thing the Harkles never saw coming was this avalanche of good press for the Cambridges and their subsequent surge in popularity. Oh the irony for Miss Popularity...
Sandie said…
@Maneki Meko

Thanks for that link for Samamtha's book. Not without error but, gosh, a class above FF in terms of writing style and structure.
Acquitaine said…
@Lavenderlady: Re TC and his repulsive church.

Former Village voice journalist Tony Ortega and his blog, the Underground bunker, is a great source for all things repulsive church as well as TC.

He includes research that he has done and continues to do on the subject plus 1st person testimonies of people who have left the church and are trying to rebuild their lives.

https://tonyortega.org/
Fifi LaRue said…
Harry won't file for divorce because he's unable to think for himself. Meghan does all the thinking, and directing. She tells him when to jump, and how high.
Superfly said…
@Lady Lavender - never mind, we agree anyway

@Aquitaine - boy oh boy, Hillary huh? Only goes to show how utterly detached from reality, out of touch with the people, and generally delusional she truly is. She's been for years and years now, but what did her MM tweet get her? Except violent, widespread ridicule?

I know what you're saying, and of course the likes of Oprah and/or Hillary wouldn't even know MM's name had she not married Dimwit Harry. But the thing is: Oprah and Hillary themselves have become irrelevant. Hugely irrelevant. Nobody listens to them anymore. You can't compare that to one of the best hospitals in the world for becoming mothers. It doesn't make sense. It's a nonsensical comparison.

So yes, I completely understand what it is you are saying, and no, I truly believe that the Portland Street Hospital does not give 2 figs about MM using them for her alleged birth or not. They're much too busy continuing their brilliant legacy, unlike Oprah and Hillary. Lol
Maneki Neko said…
@Flore


Yes, Megalo must be fuming if she reads the DM article abt how Kate helped heal Prince William and Prince Charles's relationship.

Wait until she reads there is a book out soon, titled The Duchess of Cambridge: A Decade of Modern Royal Style, written by Bethan Holt, a Telegraph journalist. The book is due out on 9 February. Megalo will be spitting feathers. She isn't the style icon she thinks she is.

https://tinyurl.com/y6psbmsc (also Waterstones etc.)



@Sandie

Thanks for that link for Samamtha's book.
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You're very welcome :)
Acquitaine said…
@Superfly: Still not getting my nuanced point so let's simply agree to disagree.





I've already spotted the first "mistake" in Samantha's book.

In the first few pages where you can "see inside the book," on Amazon, Sam first blasts Doria for not worrying about Thomas' heart attack at the wedding. Then, Sam writes that MM's wedding dress cost $750,000, compared to Kate Middleton's wedding dress, which Sam says cost only $299. We all know that Kate's dress was an Alexander McQueen, and it cost approximately $434,000.

"Kate Middleton wore a bespoke wedding gown designed by Sarah Burton for Alexander McQueen that cost an estimated $434,000 to make. It featured a nine-foot-long train and handmade lace made by the Royal School of Needlework. May 14, 2019"

I don't know how Sam could be so far off on the price of Kate's dress. An Alexander McQueen baseball cap costs $420.00!

This mistake makes me worry about the veracity of the rest of the book. I was hoping for a well-written and well-researched book from Sam.
Grisham said…
Just some comments...

Tom Cruise looks near 60 with bad plastic surgery. His colored jet black hair is ridiculous.

We have discussed dark triad over a year ago maybe, which is why you haven’t seen it lately.

No, I no not think Harry is going to file for divorce any time soon. I expect they will make it at least 10 years, possibly more... maybe forever, idk.

Wanda said…
@Maneki Neko said...
I looked on amazon.com and saw Samantha's book with the date 26 January.
_______________

Thanks for this!
I have a feeling Samantha Markle's book is going to be interesting in a number of ways!

She is certainly getting back at her mother Roselyn with the section on how "promiscuous" she claims her mother was in the first few pages!

The writing is better than many assumed it would be and the chapter titles suggest some intriguing topics.

I wonder if any other family narcs will fall out of the tree!

After all, narcs are attracted to narcs and a narc can foster the development of another narc.

And narcs don't care if their behavior hurts others as long as they please themselves.
I look forward to reading this book for whatever it reveals about the Markles and narc behavior.
Narcs also home in on empaths who try to see the best in people, who aren't aware of the perils.

If one has a narc parent, one has been conditioned to respond by having weak boundaries. If you've experienced that sort of relationship early in life. it can seem normal. Like getting involved with a physical abuser because that's what your dad did to you.

I wasn't very good at setting boundaries/ground rules, eg with lodgers/cleaners/`friends'- was seen as a pushover because I tried to be `nice'. Got taken advantage of instead of being firm to start with.

We have talked about the Dark Triad in the past and many of us felt she qualified.
Sandie said…
Do you have a link for Samantha's book on Amazon? I can't find it there.
@Aquetaine,

I've been reading Tony Ortega's site for years, even back to his days at the Village Voice. I think he is the best researcher on Scientology around.
*****************
Tom Cruise doesn't look anywhere near 30 years old. He looks like he's in his mid-50s. In closeups, you can see all of the work that's been done to his face. It looks like a mask now.

He is also aging when it comes to his stunts. When he runs, you can see that he is not as sprightly as he once was. If he looked age 30, he would be reprising his original Maverick role for the new Top Gun movie. He's playing the old Maverick, coming back to help his group because he looks too old the the original Maverick part.

In the new Top Gun, Cruise's character, Maverick, is 57 years old:

"57 years old
For Top Gun: Maverick, Cruise's character is 57 years old. In the present, Maverick is a renowned military figure, though in the Top Gun: Maverick trailer, his colleagues wonder why he never attained a more prominent rank. Jun 27,





@Sandie,

Here ya go!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/173631341X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2ZRB9NVM9713P&dchild=1&keywords=princess+pushy+samantha+markle&qid=1612121630&sprefix=princess+pushy%2Caps%2C268&sr=8-2#customerReviews

This is the page where Sam says Kate's wedding dress cost $299!
Grisham said…
If you watch bling empire episode 1, you will see a narc/borderline character nearly immediately. I don’t even have to name him, and his GF who keeps trying to understand him.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9207569/Prince-William-slams-despicable-racism-against-football-players.html

This article about William speaking out against racial bullying online against football players got me thinking. Are we being unfair to the Sussexes?

I don't think we are, and if they listened and did some introspection, they might learn something that may make their lives a bit easier.

William is addressing a specific situation. The players who were targeted are named and the context is given.

William is actually doing something concrete. He has gathered together a whole lot of organizations to put together an action plan, which includes law enforcement, and an approach has been made to online platforms. He has that power.

All of this connects to his Heads Together work in football and other areas. So he has a well established platform and has established good relationships.

The Sussexes claim to be the biggest victims of online abuse, they ignore what their crazy stans get up to online and have actually personally made contact with one of the Sussex squad, they talk about kindness and so on but have not done anything concrete ...

They no longer have the support and guidance of palace courtiers nor have the framework of the royal family but surely at least Harry must know the right people that they can hire and that they should let themselves be guided by those people.

By the way, the latest from the Sussex squad is that they have turned on Harry for even considering returning to England, and sans queen meghan. They are threatening to report him to the International Court, in the Hague I assume! They are also attacking Joe Biden for daring to go to the UK and consider meeting the royal family. If I was the Sussexes, I would be concerned. If they were still working royals, the Sussex squad would be labelled as a threat and investigated accordingly.
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Jdubya said…
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"Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
I've already spotted the first "mistake" in Samantha's book."

Talk about discrediting herself. $299 McQueen dress. Where can I pick one up?
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

The link I gave at 8.32 pm works (amazon.com)

https://tinyurl.com/yy48v5qp
Jdubya said…
Reading through the parts available on Amazon. Don't forget to hit the "surprise me" part which gives you access to a few other pages. Including that Thomas paid for her education completely ($250,000 pr yr) as well as her apartment etc. He apparently really did go all out for his youngest.

Samantha has a nice method of writing too. Very readable.
Amazon.

Love Sam's chapter list. Especially the last chapter title, "Princess Pushy's Ultimatum".



Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/Murky__Meg/status/1355963965734580227/photo/1

This is from Scobie, who claims that senior palace officials have confirmed that they asked for the change. Also note that the statement comes from Meghan, and not Meghan and Harry.

Omid Scobie, there is no such title as Duchess Meghan!

Who are these palace officials and why make the Sussexes change but not the Cambridges? In fact, the only two royals who have used their title and not their first names for the wife on the birth certificate are Diana and Sarah.

I know it would be petty so they won't do it, but I wish staff from BP and KP and former staff of the Sussexes would refute this.

Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

Many thanks! I used your link and found it!
Natalier said…
@MustSyphone

Seems like Lady C was the one who spotted the change. She must had been researching something.
Jdubya said…
If needed, here is a link to some excerpts of the book - as said, be sure to click on the yellow/blue surprise me part, and it will jump to a few more pages.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/173631341X/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1I4MIJUN9G5Y5&dchild=1&keywords=the+diary+of+princess+pushy%27s+sister+samantha+markle&qid=1612131937&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+diary%2Caps%2C672&sr=1-4#detailBullets_feature_div


@Not MM,

It doesn't seem to be a typo of the real cost of Kate's wedding dress, so it must be a mistake on Sam's part. I'd love to pick up a few McQueens at that price, too.

It's disappointing, isn't it?
Opened a piece of the last chapter with the surprise me button.

Xmas before or after the wedding, Meghan tried to convince Thomas she was an only child (!!), and to disown Thomas and 'babe' (Sam).

LMAO. She really is nuts.
Oh, sorry, she mentions it was the Christmas before the wedding right after the engagement. Meghan was trying to get her dad to 'comply' with her crazy Harry lies that she was an only child, didn't have siblings etc, and knew she couldn't invite anyone to the wedding or the truth of her reality would get out.

I cannot believe the BRF let this whole thing happen. It is so funny and absurd. No one was at the wedding lol.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jocelyn

Not able to view Sammy link,
#emails matter 😉
Do you think she confused engagement
dresses with wedding dresses?
Megs $75,000 engagement dress
compared to Kate’s $299 Issa dress?
🪣💐

The book ends at the wedding.
So basically, from my understanding, Meghan has been giving payback since the engagement for Thomas not going along with her lies and plans with Harry. Thomas could only be involved with Harry if he pretended to not have other family members and say she was an only child.

I wonder if people are going to start sending the Queen copies of this book. How embarrassing!

What's Harry going to think. His family and friends are going to read all of this.
@magatha,

It's possible that Sam did confuse Kate's wedding dress with another dress she wore, but it's still a huge mistake. It's one of the most iconic wedding dresses in the world, and it's far less than anything you could get in the designer(off the rack) section at Nordstrom? Sam should know that a bespoke designer dress costs far more than $299.
@Not MM,

Oh, that's good tea about MM trying to disavow her siblings and half-siblings before the wedding. I had decided not to buy the book because of the $299 dress mistake, but if there's good tea to be spilled in Sam's book, I'll definitely buy it.
Grisham said…
How can her education be $250,000 a year? Plus rent? One of mine wanted to attend Tulane University at $63,000 a year (tuition and fees) — 3 years ago. Northwestern is less than that.

It seems Samantha may not be good with numbers...
Grisham said…
Well, not Meghan Markle, my husband has always considered himself an only child, even though his dad had another son with a different woman about 15 years later. They didn’t know each other or grow up with each other, so the each considered themselves only children. Now, in his situation after the dad died, the two “only siblings” came together and got to know each other and decided they were indeed brothers. Sadly, my half brother-in-law died tragically a few years ago. Now DH will not do a 23 and me in case there are others out there— he doesn’t want to know of any more. (His papa was a rolling stone...)

So I’d have to read the context, but I don’t think it’s abnormal for a child raised alone with a different parent than the others to consider him or herself an only child. Just experience talking here....
@Natalier

Thanks! It just seemed so odd that 18 months later this comes out of the blue and from The Sun of all places.
Ian's Girl said…
With regards to her name post-divorce, I know they'd take the HRH off, but doesn't her legal name actually include the "Duchess of Sussex" part?

Why else would they be allowed to continue to use it, otherwise?

A true feminist would not use her ex-husband's name, but we know she'll cling to it....but so did Diana and Sarah. I understand why, but I feel like it must involve the legal name somehow, too, or they wouldn't be allowed to keep using it.
Didn't somebody figure out that MM's story of writing Gloria Allred and Hillary Clinton about the dishwashing liquid was false because Allred wasn't in the spotlight at that time? And that Hillary Clinton was still in Arkansas, not yet on the national scene?

Samantha writes in her book that it was Thomas' idea to have MM write to them about how women are portrayed in the media. Hmmm.



HappyDays said…
Just read that Joe Biden is going to the UK in June to meet HMTQ. No dates announced. Too bad Meghan will be holding Archie hostage in Cali to make sure Harry will return to the US just as she did during Megxit. That chikd is a weapon, a tool, and a prop for her and nothing more.

She can’t show her face in the UK without being booed or possibly pelted with produce, so she won’t be able to travel with Harry to suck up to the Bidens and attempt to take the spotlight away from the Queen’s birthday celebrations and any meeting or state dinner with Joe.

What a pity, but I’m sure the little wheels in her narcissistic brain are turning away as she tries to figure out a way she can insert herself in the June activities without having to actually travel there and risk the ire of the public. Or perhaps she just won’t be able to stay away and will show up unannounced the way she and Harry crashed the event for the anniversary of Charles’ investiture as Prince of Wales without being invited and were asked to leave.
Grisham said…
Puss, I believe the story about the BC was reported on 21/1/2021. It was changed 18 months ago. (Or whenever they were still in England)
Wanda said…
@Puds

I was able to see quite a bit of Samantha's book by reopening the link a couple of times. Each time I did I was offered different "surprise" peeks into the text!

I read here how some were not sure she would come through with good information but I think perhaps she may well supply some idea on how Meghan's narcissism developed.
@Natalier,

I hope Lady C is researching to write a new book!
Sandie said…
@Puds

The birth certificate was changed in June 2019, about a month after Archie was born. What was published in the media was a copy that was made in 2021. The signature you see on this copy is to certify that it is a copy of the original (printed from computer database).

There was not a computerized system when the first two Cambridge children were born, so the birth certificates are filled in by hand. With Louis, the information was typed in, it was printed and then signed. The difference with the Cambridges is that they showed the media the original, which the media then photographed.

Wanda said…
Not Meghan Markle said...
Oh, sorry, she mentions it was the Christmas before the wedding right after the engagement. Meghan was trying to get her dad to 'comply' with her crazy Harry lies that she was an only child, didn't have siblings etc, and knew she couldn't invite anyone to the wedding or the truth of her reality would get out.
.................

Isn't this what Lady CC wrote about in her book? Meghan told Harry a false tale of a horrid childhood.
If SM is corroborating this it sure seems to cement that aspect of the story.
Sandie said…
@tatty

That was not the case with Meghan. There are photographs of her with her two siblings on different occasions and at different ages (baby, child, pre-teen, teenager) and she was at Samantha's graduation (once again, a photograph), which happened when she was an adult. Plus she was in touch with Samantha's daughters and even posted a photograph of herself with the one daughter on The Tig.
Sandie said…
@tatty

Samantha is more than not good with numbers ... she is clueless!
@Puds
The 21 January date is the date the reporter requested the copy. The actual changes were made in June of 2019 when Grip and Drip both resided in th e UK.
Magatha Mistie said…

Skewered

Meghan La Minger
And her roast chicken dinner
Have much to answer for
Without all her grilling
Spit roasting, and *rilling
She’d never have got through the door

*water flow 😉
Sandie said…
I am inclined to believe Samantha. When Samantha and Thomas Jnr started talking to the media KP tried to talk to Meghan about the situation and her response was that they are distant relatives and she hardly knows them.

It is most odd. There are dozens of photographs showing Meghan with various relatives (siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins) at various stages of her life. As I pointed out, she even posted a photograph of her niece with her on The Tig. How did she think she could get away with erasing and rewriting the history of her life?

Harry, his family, her friends should stop going along with her lies, sit down with her and tell her that she has some serious psychological issues/personality disorder and she must get some professional help.
Sandie said…
@Puds

My understanding is that the statement about a verified copy, signature and date at the bottom of the page refers to the copy of the entire document. The original/first birth certificate copy had the same.

The paragraph above simply makes a note of what changes had been made to the certificate and the media simply showed this part rather than the whole page.

Remember this is an electronic document so bits can be changed and added before printng.
Elsbeth1847 said…

What I am curious about is what was Lady C doing that she just happened to notice this. Most people don't just happen to hang around the registry offices in hopes some piece of paper just happens to fly off the counter and into your book bag and it just happens to be an amended document that people would find interesting.

What is also interesting is that she didn't save it for her vlog.
@elsbeth,

I'm hoping that Lady C is working on a new book, and that she came across this in her research.
jessica said…
I got to through a few chapters.

Samantha was really close with Meghan. She did her hair, and was jealous of Meghan’s beauty and hair as a kid. Helped her with all her homework etc. She spoke to her a year previous to the engagement and claims they didn’t know who Meghan was anymore to have changed so much (since meeting Harry). Meghan was in touch with them all. This estranged family member narrative ‘family she never had’ is really crazy in the context of the book.

To say she was on ‘only child’ and Thomas couldn’t be apart of her new life unless he disavowed his other children, is some grade A manipulative BS. She said something along the lines of Thomas needing to ‘get with the program And become who she sold Harry he was and she was.’ Fascinating book.

It all makes sense. Meghan was swinging far above her capabilities with a Prince and pegged Harry for a moron. They rarely saw each other and long distance. Have her plenty of time to craft and create the perfect ‘damsel in distress look how far I’ve come’ narrative to push all his buttons.

jessica said…
What surprised me the most was Samantha’s long history in television and the industry (commercials and gigs). She involved Meghan in some of those. She and her sister had a lot in common.
Sandie said…
@Puds

Oh, now I am confused!

I thought they issued a new certificate, with a record of the changes, which they can now do electronically.

The date of the certification date still seems to refer to the copy that was made in 2021 and not the amendment to the birth certificate, which was fone in 2019.
jessica said…
Puds, maybe Meghan had an extravagant college life? She was in a sorority (not cheap) at Northwestern (not cheap).

When I went to university my dad covered all my bills, rent, expenses, tuition, partying. Everything. I was extremely lucky. But simple maths was probably around 5k per month. Then tuition. I partied and shopped a lot. I hosted parties, for example. I didn’t work. Out of my friend group at my school I was the only one who had this sort of support. I was pretty sheltered and naive and assumed everyone had a lot of college covered. I suffered from entitlement for a while. It was hard. I wish my parents hadn’t done that, and they had their own reasons (control), but I do try to look at the bright side of how I sort of lived in a bubble while in university.

So, $250k would be a lot, but if she was also traveling (I wasn’t) it wouldn’t be. Depends on her lifestyle. Now, I wasn’t at an elite school. I had friends who were at elite schools. The wealthy set who they ran with. It was insane the stories I would hear. Parents would ship them suitcases full of designer clothes. They travelled during term. $250k per year would be nothing to a lot of those kids. I had a friend, one of my best friends, who really struggled with her roommate. She wasn’t as well off, and her roommate was from a prominent Chinese family. They weren’t friends and didn’t get along. This girl flaunted everything.

I have a feeling Meghan did something similar to keep up with the wealthy kids that did attend Northwestern and just had her dad foot the entire bill. So from that point of view, yeah I can believe the $250k per year price tag. Meghan’s tastes aren’t cheap.
jessica said…
Sandie,

I agree. Something is seriously mentally wrong with Meghan. I think all the lies spiraled out of control. She could use some help considering what has come of it all.
Wanda said…
jessica said...
I got to through a few chapters.
Samantha was really close with Meghan. She did her hair, and was jealous of Meghan’s beauty and hair as a kid.
_______________

So Samantha's book is turning out to be informative!

I didn't see this part yet. Are you sure the book says Sam was jealous of Meghan's childhood beauty and hair and not the other way around?

Most people following this story find Meghan's childhood looks not very attractive at all. It wasn't until she had plastic surgery, straightened her hair and her Dad bought her a new set of teeth that she looked somewhat attractive.
@Puds,

I haven't read that part of the book, but I'm wondering if Sam means ALL of MM's education- The Little Red Schoolhouse, the Catholic schools, and Northwestern?




Jdubya said…
I wonder if, in M's mind, because T and Doria only had 1 child, M considers herself an "only child" and feels T should feel the same way, use the same phrase. She may be Doria's only child and T & D's only child, but she is not T's only child.

Now i feel like i'm talking in circles.

the excerpts i've read on Amazon are quite interesting. She writes very well. No world salad like her sister - oops former sister? Ha.

There was 1 review on amazon already trashing the book about the spelling of Memoir vs Memoire and they hadn't even read the book. I went ahead and reported the review.

I suspect there will be a lot of negatives hitting the site shortly. They need to post those only from confirmed sales.
Magatha Mistie said…

Her Abhorrent

So Sam’s causing quite a stir
Hear the screeching from Megs in her lair
Whatever the cost
Her poor father, he lost
He should now cast Megs as his spare

jessica said…
I reported the review as well, Puds. I agree the book is written fine. It’s much clearer than Meghan’s word salad. It’s presented in a chronological factual format. When she discusses Meghan as a child (no one told her No, shocking.) she mentions being jealous of Meghan. Sam had severe insecurities brought on by working in the industry and a close encounter with a supermodel (she doesn’t name who), and then she really started noticing Meghan’s thick long hair. I think this is to show that Meghan was adored and doted on. They didn’t think lowly of Meghan at all. She discussed how they started to realize they all gave to Meghan without the expectation of anything in return, thus spawning a narcissist. Hindsight, right.

After reading a bit more, I think the McQueen number is just a typo. She was trying to say Meghan’s sense of entitlement was overbearing.

I explained my university experience above, and I think the number $250k is true for Keeping Up With The Jones’ Meghan. She’s all about status and reputation and would have definitely wanted to feel like Queen Bee at the sorority. Explains the ‘issues’ some sorority sisters had with her (my words, not Sams). I think that’s exclusive of her lower education fees. She was the only woman Thomas was paying for, for years and years. He had the cash.

I had parents that gave money, but zero emotional support or engagement. I didn’t get a call from them once I moved to university. I went to the college they told me to go to, for example. That money/control:boundary issue...yeah. It can screw with people.

Sam admits the family has poor boundaries and she only realized it recently.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Have no fear Hildisvini.
Your intellect is phenomenal 🐗
@Magatha -Ta very much. These days I live in fear of dementia though.

On a lighter note:

Perhaps they found Archie at a London railway terminus , labelled `Please look after this boy’?

Or has he since been dropped off from the Royal Train/the old Royal Mail Travelling Post Office, pulled by that Pacific–not-much-Class locomotive, `The Duchess of Loughborough’?

Because he doesn’t qualify as Royal Male?
Magatha Mistie said…

Return to sender - Cash on delivery

The Duchess of RoughBugger
Post code: Chunga, Chunga
Is missing the stamp of approval
By making Kings Cross
She’s forgotten who’s boss
Post haste, letters patent, removal



Magatha Mistie said…

WildBoar
Archie could be left at
Lost (boy) and Found (ling)
Nelo said…
This is a very interesting article published in Forbes magazine. It says the Sussexes have no influence in the US and may not be able to produce successful content for Netflix deal. Its a must read.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2021/01/31/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-the-hollywood-production-deals-the-lawsuit-and-the-press/
Superfly said…
'Acquitaine said...
@Superfly: Still not getting my nuanced point so let's simply agree to disagree. '

Lol, ok.
Crumpet said…
@Nelo,

Thank you for sharing the Forbes article. Not very flattering of the Duo.
Lost boy? Certainly, we have 2 individuals who have never grown up here. Peter Pan isn't restricted to Kensington Gardens.

He and Wendy had better beware of the crocodile - the clock is ticking.
jessica said…
Nelo, thanks for that.

The press is really turning on the Duo now huh? He basically called them good for nothing idiots. In a more eloquent way. So, if the press is pointing out their errors, what can Harry really say about that?

Here are a few tidbits/ quotes that I think stand out the most;

“ In this case, it seems much more important what they did not say, namely, that they wouldn't participate in a documentary about themselves, if done in an acceptable manner, however that is defined in Hollywood production suites. It's reminiscent of their back-and-forth fence-straddling over whether they participated, or didn't, in the very strange book on their exit from Royal life, Finding Freedom.

Sympathetic as they are, as a couple, they do not have the same reach and certainly only a fraction of the wattage that they had in Britain, where they were under the kliegs 24/7. Brutally put, they are going to have to come up with a story other than themselves. And it had better be a good one.

The second difficulty the couple face is intertwined with that of developing Netflix and Spotify content: As they did during their extended and somehow still-headlong process of exiting Royal life, both Harry and Ms. Markle seem to have a contradictory, or at least a highly conflicted, posture toward all media, public, official, and social, and that posture does seem to be an ungainly one that works to the couple's disadvantage, to put it diplomatically. Citing much egregious, often withering online trolling, which to be fair does follow them, they've recently announced again that they will "retire" from social media. Fair enough, but why announce that?

Because: Capping a few years of outspoken public complaints about the press treatment they have received, last year Prince Harry and Meghan Markle went out of their way to "punish" certain publications for various perceived transgressions by announcing a strict no-cooperation policy. The edict includes two of the defendants in the libel lawsuit, the Mail Online, and the Mail on Sunday.”
jessica said…
Maybe the press is pissed off at the fact that Meghan and Harry aren’t the audience draw they all tried to make them be. Wasted opportunity and all that. They can see clearly she’s not a winning horse in the media game and her narrative is too confusing.
lizzie said…
I can easily see Tom spending $150K per year when M was in college. Northwestern's tuition page doesn't go back that far but tuition alone is currently over $56,000 per year. So @tatty--its not significantly cheaper than Tulane. I'm sure it was at least $25-30K when Meghan attended. Add in fees, books, living expenses related to school like computers, sorority expenses, clothes, travel, "personal care" expenses, and so on. I'm sure there were extra expenses involved during her "travel abroad" times as well. I wouldn't doubt Tom would have been expected to pay for any visits Doria made to Northwestern too. Finally, supposedly Tom paid her student loan bills after graduation.

Sam may not be good with figures but I can also easily imagine Tom exaggerating what he paid to Sam. I don't mean M was telling the truth when she claimed she paid for for Northwestern education on her own. I think that's flat-out impossible. But Tom might have made the amount he paid a bit bigger when talking to Sam.
Maneki Neko said…
@Not Meghan Markle

The book ends at the wedding.
-------
It does but it's 'Part 1' so there should be a part 2, after the wedding.



Re the birth certificate, what I don't understand is the the three Cambridge children's birth certificates all show 'Catherine Elizabeth, HRH Duchess of Cambridge'. Why would Archie's be different, especially if requested by the Palace? Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, I haven't seen anything abt it.
Megs is doing her best to make a mountain out of the bc business. Never learns, does she
lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko,

I don't understand the BC changes either.

What I do see

1. On the original BC, Harry's full name was listed after HRH. Meghan's full name was listed before HRH. They obviously (obviously IMO anyway) should have used the same format.

2. It appeared Meghan asked to take her marriage vows under her middle name of "Meghan" not as "Rachel Meghan" which I thought was weird at the time. So maybe officials thought the BC name should match the marriage vows (although we don't know what the license or register said.)

Kate took her vows as "Catherine Elizabeth." And that name appeared on her children's BCs.

I expect we aren't getting the truth about "the palace made me do it."
Magatha Mistie said…

My favourite take from the Forbes article
Fleet Street grinding their blades
Delicious!!

Magatha Mistie said…

Same train of thought WildBoar 😉
jessica said…
WBBM,

It’s extraordinary she made a direct comment on it and still tried to throw the BRF under the bus (erasing first name). Didn’t work out very well because it didn’t even make sense. ‘Why would Meghan do this? She wouldn’t. The Firm Made Her Do It.’ Lol it’s just so crazy. I think she changed it to be in line with their family Sussex Royal branding. Looks crazy now, so time to blame someone else.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

I’m confused by the BC, as per, anything
to do with Megs is bloody convoluted.
Magatha Mistie said…

Are we on the cusp of the Kraken reveal?
Magatha Mistie said…

Freedom Blighters

Megs should have been taught
That litigation is fraught
The lies that she’s spun are in breach
She’s hell bent on suing
Wants all papers wooing
In her aim to end freedom of speech


jessica said…
Also: Meghan’s protest and claims about the first name being erased...and how offensive that is to suggest...

She erased Rachel. For years. All by herself. She needs to be put on meds.
Sandie said…
@Maneki

I did make a comment about the birth certificates for the Cambridge children, but am so glad that you mentioned it. To me, it is the most bizarre part of it.

DM is claiming that BP told them to correct the errors, but in her statement, Meghan simply said The Palace. Of course, when asked to comment, BP replied no comment and did not even bother to add the Sussexes are private citizens this time.

In the long history of the royal family, there have been various approaches to citing names and even addresses, but no one has ever changed a birth certificate becase of inconsequential errors. Get the spelling of the child's name wrong and that may be important to change (happened with my sister but she has had to live with it!).

The story really hit a nerve with Meghan as she had a statement typed up and given to Scobie promptly, despite the time difference. No signature, no letterhead, no calligraphy, no word salad ... just outrage.

Was someone at BP winding them up, or at KP? Did Harry over react to an academic conversation in the office about the correct form to be used for titles (keeping in mind KP had a young staff not a bunch of very experienced old fogey courtiers), or did Meghan throw a wobbly about him getting it wrong when he told her about the conversation?

I know it is horrible, but I do not believe what Meghan said in her statement. It just does not make sense.
Sandie said…
We need someone to explain Meghan's behaviour re. the birth certificate in terms of narc psychology!
Magatha Mistie said…

Mods Rock!

Thank you Charade and abbyh
Can’t be easy keeping us in our place
You’ve kept it all going
Despite nasty trolling
Were lucky to have this safe place

Thank you X

jessica said…
Everything Meghan does looks bad. I’m sure she nagged Harry and changed the BC. It fits with her m/o. Her statement is overboard serious and as pointed out ‘filled with outrage’. There are so many more important things going on in the world. She could have released a statement, “yes we corrected it, silly us, please donate to your local homeless shelter’ . She’s so self absorbed and ‘fruit loops’ that it didn’t occur to her, once again, her responses are inappropriate.

Anyone else think people are getting too close to home with this one, which sparked her outrage? Eventually someone is going to notice the Paddington error. Are we closer to the Archie reveal?
Magatha Mistie said…

Sorry, should have been
“We’re lucky to have this safe space”
Cheers!

LavenderLady said…
@Aquataine,
Thanks for the Tony Ortega link. I will check it out!

Nutties,
Looks as if I signed out just in time yesterday. My Spidey senses were telling me to do so plus I know the shenanigans that follow my posts are coming.

I know I set the precedence for myself when I made certain comments about algorithms awhile back. That was dumb of me but came from my frustrations with said shenanigans. I don't blame anyone but myself. I get it this darkness will follow me on this blog no matter what I do and I understand that many of you are leary of responding to me because of what my posts lead too. It's like playing whack a mole. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for the brave mods here. I agree 100 % with Magatha. They Rock!!

With that said, I feel it's imperative that I not allow said shenanigans to scare me off so I will continue to post here and there. As I've said several times, I enjoy the blog but it's not my life so I'm ok with that. I enjoy the great reading on here. The good out weighs the bad. You guys are amazing to tolerate the mania for so long; longer than before I came and certainly after I will be gone from here. But for now, I will remain. I am so sorry to have caused so much trouble by thinking I could defend myself rather than ignore. I am new to blogging and it has shown.

Hugs,
Lavender Lady
Maneki Neko said…
Just seen a Daily Star headline in Newzit so had a look at the article:


'Prince Harry has won a court case against a tabloid which published two "defamatory" articles claiming he snubbed the Royal Marines after stepping down as a senior royal.

The Duke began legal proceedings against Associated Newspapers, publisher of the Mail on Sunday and MailOnline, after the stories were published in October.

On Monday he successfully sued the publisher for libel regarding the claims, winning "significant damages" which he intends to donate to the Invictus Games Foundation.

After the hearing a spokesman for the Duke of Sussex said in a statement: "Today, the Mail on Sunday and MailOnline publicly admitted in open court that they pushed a completely false and defamatory story.'

I hope this won't give Megalo any ideas that she'll win her court case. It's different, I know, but it might make her more arrogant. Justice Warby, please decide on a full trial.
Hikari said…
Great article from Tom Sykes about Birth Cert Gate

https://apple.news/AWUGvxqhpSOmp8m1Fkon_lA

Sandie said…
This is copied from elsewhere (reference given):

"Royal Biographer Angela Levin is on Mike Graham talking about the Harkles now. Started from 11:50 on the onscreen clock. She said that she asked the Palace about the birth certificate and they directed her to Archewell. Anything to do with the Duchess of Sussex, reporters need to go to Archewell."

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6434#post-67995463

At the time, the Sussexes were full-time working royals funded by the British people, so if BP had instructed the Sussexes to change the birth certificate, surely it is not untoward to make a comment about official royal policy?

I have just remembered that the Sussexes had their offices in BP by the time Archie was born. So, when Meghan says The Palace, she is putting the blame on someone working for them, and completely under their control, but is not naming anyone so she does not have to prove her defence.

Unbelievable!
Sandie said…
But MailOnline said they had settled, they printed an apology and they said they made a donation directly to Invictus Games.

What does Harry gain from being so petulant (he said the printed apology was not good enough and insisted a lengthy statement be read aloud in court and now says the donation was given to him to graciously pass on to Invictus Games)?

Speculation alert: either he is in reality miserable and deeply regretting the marriage and thus lashing out as he feels trapped, or he is so influenced by Meghan that he has forgotten everything he has learned in life and is gladly following he down a path of self destruction, thinking that it is a path to victory.

We have discussed here the hubris and deluded arrogance of the statement he insisted be read aloud. As I said above, this could also be the reckless howls of a very wounded and trapped man.

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