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Miggy said…
@WBBM said:

Up to the age of 10, I used to play with the boy next door. A favourite game was `Leapo'! from my swing - we'd do 10 `swings' then jump and be catapulted as far as possible, usually about 8 feet.

I was a proper tom-boy when young, so games such as you describe would have been right up my street! I'm thankful I grew up when I did... because nowadays someone might be trying to fill my young head with the notion that I might want to change gender! 😳

What is it with us Nutty women?

We're nuts? Let's just leave it at that... 😅
punkinseed said…
Megs looks like a magpie.
Sabrina said…
Hello All!

I wonder if Hot Rob was so irritated at MM and Harry using Montecito as their new "residence", thus drawing attention and publicity to this quiet enclave, that he deliberately was toying with James Corden?

He knew that James also had the info that they weren't really living there. That they were actually crashing at Oprah's, and that is why James Corden got so jumpy and odd during that segment. Hot Rob was just playing, he knows Harry doesn't live there.

I think Rob Lowe is a fairly authentic guy, and VERY talented. He probably sees right through these fakers and does not like it one bit that they have settled on his chosen hometown.
AnT said…
@glumdalclitch, at 7:06 am,

Ha! Your concise fashion summary of the mob of three is perfect and hilarious. I too looked at the video and thought, who in sad dancing hell styled this mess? Thank you for the pithy critique.
OKay said…
Haven't read through everything yet, but I just checked the listings and confirmed that Oprah's special is 90 minutes long - running from 8-9:30 pm EST. I've heard rumours of another special she's doing that has nothing to do with the Harkles, and presumably that will be two hours.
AnT said…
@Sylvia, 7:45 am,

Thank you so much for all of that Barbara Pym Society information! Didn’t know there was such a group! So wonderful to find other fans here! I have seen her papers at the Bodleian, but have never done a journey to her houses or village— I imagine that would be the perfect way to understand the little worlds she created so well in her stories.
❤️
AnT said…
@NotMeghanMarkle, 10:09, 10:12 am,
👏👏👏👏👏 I totally agree.

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@Jocelyn’sBelllinis,
Oooh interesting take on Oprah’s power dressing reverse psychology! I think you are right. She is the casual, comfortable long term real Montecito resident of high standing, who paused in a survey of her garden to question the delusional, overdressed, 2-minute royal tramp who came tripping through a hedge spattered with gull poop, looking for a fight with an elderly queen who lives about 5000 miles away. I like it!


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@Puds,
Your little man on the train story is priceless! So funny, love it. I can totally imagine your astonishment!

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From my connected client just now:

“From £500 a night, to Sicilian widow-Madonna.”

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I am a lurker not a poster. I know some of the stories of markle in Toronto. She is a piece of work. RELEASE THE EFFING KRAKEN. It is beyond belief that this is still going on. Bury them both with the truth.
They look like literal Royal rejects. There's nothing youthful or fresh. Harry has a gut. Oprah's pandering to her own audience. Meghan looks like she is going to a funeral afterward (reminding me of the cemetery walk).
Sandie said…
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2021/03/aristocratic-freedom-and-duty

Written by a priest in Ontario ...
@yorkshirepudding

'I am a lurker not a poster. I know some of the stories of markle in Toronto. She is a piece of work.'

Oh! Do share!
AnT said…

On Twitter, both TourreBakahai and Artemis are on fire with funny commentary on the Oprah clip.😁 with waffles.
NeutralObserver said…
I think the silly trailers were released in a desperate move to drum up viewers, & perhaps a misguided hope that the RF will respond in some way, & spark more interest. In this case, I think the RF should just carry on with 'never complain, never explain.' Don't feed the beast.

I have no idea what kind of deal Oprah & the Harkles have with CBS, but have read in the past that if a network doesn't deliver the numbers of viewers they promised ad buyers, they have to reimburse the sponsors. If that is true in this case, CBS could lose a bundle. It's hard to say who will tune in at this point.
LavenderLady said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9312171/Prince-Philip-leaves-King-Edward-VII-Hospital-London-14-days.html

The article states 'They claimed that he took regular medication with staff briefed to take him to hospital immediately if he was short of breath or dizzy.'

and

'But Dr Malhotra added: 'It's more likely he had an infection elsewhere - it could've been in the urinary tract or a chest infection - and the stress on his body put strain on his heart.

'Therefore he had to be taken to a specialist cardiac centre to make sure heart is functioning while he is treated for the infection. What makes it more likely is his underlying heart issues.' (meaning the infection)

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I myself know this routine. Sounds as if he has congestive heart failure which is being monitored. Stress is def a trigger.

Thankfully, mine was not congestive heart failure but a much milder heart condition that is treated. I am no where near 99 years old but I still have to be monitored regularly for said condition. Even an untreated UTI can put me in danger. My cardiologist has instructed me with the same statement; dizzy, short of breath etc= congestive heart failure.

In any event, due to his age and Royal status, they are doing everything possible to cover all the bases since the Dr. above states it could be UTI or lung which means pneumonia. Neither is something a frail elder wants to deal with.

I am assured, as another individual mentioned, his cantankerous behavior is a sign of good health for PP. Fingers crossed he's giving the staff hell...

Prince Phillip is probably one of my favorite Royals because he takes no prisoners (he's the alpha male Harry will never be. Simpy served his balls to La Markle on a silver platter the second he said "I do"...Ugh)! That PP and TQ are so different makes for quite a nice relationship that compliments each other's weaknesses and strengths.

My hope in this whole ordeal is H$M are castigated every second they exist for putting his family and an entire country in the thumb screws with emotional blackmail. Who's
the mafiosos here?? I just can't see how they are going to come out of this unscathed.
AnT said…
Piers Morgan, is roaring!

He is destroying them for this Oprah whine fest:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9312509/PIERS-MORGAN-service-Meghan-Harry-know-self-service.html

👏🤣💖🥳
Sylvia said…
@AnT @ BlytheSpirit
Thank you both and who brought Barbra Pym to mind again .
These words by Anne Tyler sum up exactly how readers of her books all feel.

After Barbara Pym's death, American author Anne Tyler wrote: 'What do people turn to when they've finished Barbara Pym?  The answer is easy: they turn back to Barbara Pym'


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/226983.A_Lot_to_Ask
Sylvia said…
Wishing Prince Phillip successful treatment at Barts Hospital todsy
Hope he has a good recovery and a long respite .
Wishing him strength to pull through this latest setback.
If PP does not survive long term pray he returns to
HMTQ side for his final days
for both their sakes.
I am astonished at Piers' level of argumentative writing in that piece. Just, wow.

He deserves a standing ovation.
Miggy said…
Royal experts and fans call on CBS to postpone broadcast of Oprah's explosive two-hour Harry and Meghan interview out of respect for Prince Philip, 99, as he's moved for specialist care at heart hospital.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9313027/Call-CBS-postpone-Oprahs-Harry-Meghan-interview-respect-Prince-Philip-99.html
AnT said…
Snips from the Piers Morgan arse-smacking of the Sussexes....but I am leaving out the really juicy parts!


👏””First, Harry decided to prove his lust for privacy by giving an interview about his private life on top of an open-top bus....”

👏. “This all sounds great until you remember this is a couple with have been at bitter compassion-devoid war with both their own families for years.”

👏. “....this is the most tone-deaf load of entitled garbage since Marie Antoinette was told that starving French citizens had no bread and sneered, “Let them eat cake!”


Go, Piers!
We're back to London Transport again - the Tube this time-

Some of the comments on Tourre Bakahai are shouting `Mind the gap!' over the space between socks and trousers!

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Miggy said I'm thankful I grew up when I did... because nowadays someone might be trying to fill my young head with the notion that I might want to change gender!

The same thought has occurred to me!
LL. How interesting. I follow Dr Asseem Malhotra's Twitter feed. He's an esteemed cardiologist with great insight into the best kind of food to eat for optimum health. Suffice to say it puts him on collision course with our friend Mr Schwab and the WEF.
AnT said…
@Sylvia,

I am also a big Anne Tyler fan, and I hadn’t heard that Pym comment before! She is absolutely right, isn’t she? makes me smile. Thank you so much for sharing that. Now I love Tyler even more. Her “The Accidental Tourist” is so gorgeously written that I reread it once a year both as a learning experience and out of sheer admiration. I could spend slow hours with it. “Clock Dance” is in the stack by my desk right now.
LavenderLady said…
@Ant, Not Meghan,

Yes. Piers burned them down. LOL

It appears the British press is not going to forget their legal crap any time soon!
AnT said…
@Not Meghan Markle,

Agreed — Piers left nothing on the table. This is righteous fury with a freshly sharpened sword.
LL. Another thing. I read somewhere that he was charm personified to the nurses and doctors treating him during one of his hospital stays. Definitely cantankerous though. Have you seen that video of him telling the photographer "to just take the f****** picture." A man after my own heart.
NeutralObserver said…
@Puds, What a dope that guy was! He seems just oblivious, thankfully, not dangerous, as some are occasionally on US trains & subways.

@AnT, Piers just about hits every note, in the Harkle hypocrisy song book. What a pair!

I love all the comments on the respective appearance of the two of them. She was skinny little teenager in the Corden phone call, but now is heavily matronly. She looks like she could be Hegs' mother! Oops! Maybe that's the point. Others have pointed out her constant Diana cosplay. I am so creeped out by this couple, & so hope they aren't caring for a young child.

Cheers to all of the Barbara Pym fans. I'm going to reread Some Tame Gazelle. I vaguely recall the curate chasing sister to be a precursor of the hilarious Hyacinth Bucket.
NeutralObserver said…
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LavenderLady said…
@Disgusted TW,
I will check out Dr Asseem Malhotra! Thanks.

Ayurvedic advice for my ailments has me feeling great these days. Low stress is a very good path to take in tandem with regular exercise.

Easy to say, hard to do... Getting off my bum now :D

Cheers!
AnT said…
@LavenderLady,

Piers is in a unique position to slay this dragon from his platforms, and he went for it.

Oprah may be displeased (her “best ever” interview is with petty useless narc idiots? Ouch.). But my guess is that millions were quietly cheering Piers over their coffee cups today. If pubs were wide open, he’d be drinking on the house for months.
LavenderLady said…
@Disgusted TW,

ROTFLMAO! Yes I saw that. He's the MAN!
LavenderLady said…
@AnT,

Oh gawd, so true!

I'd pay his tab for the scalding he gave them today LOL :D :D :D
AnT. A Patchwork Planet is superb too. There is a line where the face of one of the older female characters is described as lighting up when she thought her social worker had said she was "useful" rather than "youthful". I read it in the height of lockdown and that line really resonated with me.
Hikari said…
Not MMM said,

Oprah is going for the 'professor grandma intellectual I-know-things' look.

I daresay, it's working, based on Meg's demeanor. The clips of O. talking sound very no-nonsense, "Look, you're not going to be messing me around today--I've got your number, you manky little pretender . . I eat divas like you for breakfast--I'm Oprah!" O. appears to be glaring at her at points, or looking like, "Yeah, right--pull the other one." If O. looked at me like that, my bowels might turn to water a bit . .though I'm a normal person, not a narc.

I'm pretty shocked at the demeanor of everyone concerned, really. Maybe they just selected the most somber-faced portions to show in the clip . . ."You've just said some really shocking things!" . . .But this is not the way to drum up interest in the interminable 2 hours to come, especially among younger viewers. I really thought we'd see a more relaxed Meg & Harry (pretending to be relaxed anyway) laughing with Oprah over glasses of lemonade, maybe a dog or Archie would wander by. If it's going to be 2 hours of this most stiff, glum and overtly hostile conversation . . yowtch.

Meg is dressed like she's going to a couture funeral. What about this look says 'Happy and carefree in California!'? Melania Trump would favor this dress, I bet. She's got that weird Eastern European avant garde asthetic--and she's 50+.) Harry, for reasons known only to himself insists on dressing like the Little Match Boy, even though born a Prince with a wardrobe allowance. Even before Meg entered his life with her extravagance, Haz wore those same ratty old things every time we saw him. His shoes were full of holes before he met Meghan. That tired light grey suit is the same one he wore to death while they were 'working royals'. No one would begrudge Harry a couple of new suits, when his wife spends easily the cost of a bespoke suit on a Zoom dress we can barely see. Is Harry colorblind? Why does he insist on pairing a light grey suit with brown shoes that clash so horribly? Why does he think he looks good in that non-color? He's got one other suit--the blue one--and he looks so much better in it. He's not had anything new to wear for the last four years--got to be by his choice. He used to have a valet, and he still looked like @#%! all the time.

Oprah was doing a major power play against Meg, in her casual 'Montecito matron leisure knits' look . . . it's a perfectly fine outfit, for visiting the farmer's market or maybe a laid back brunch. Oprah let Megsie show up in her overpriced, ugly couture, once again trying way too hard to impress. Such high heels and an evening gown for a natter on the patio on a lovely California day. Sitting across from 'Laid back Brunch Oprah' and next to her His Royal Hoboness that is her husband, Meg looks stupid, shown up for once again trying oh so hard to be in Oprah's league. Oprah is not smiling, but I sense she is laughing on the inside with Narc satisfaction. She knows exactly how to make Meg squirm.

LavenderLady said…
@Disgusted TW,
Dr Asseem Malhotra has yt clips. Yay!!

Thank you thank you thank you!
SwampWoman said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@glumdalclitch,

Yes! Harry's white shirt. It looks like he's pregnant, too. I'd been reading about MM's dress looking like a seagull pooped on her shoulder, and when I finally saw the clip, that's exactly what it looks like.

Oprah is using reverse psychology by dressing down for the interview. The Harkles attempted to dress up, but Oprah is as casual as can be. That's a silent sign that she's the leader there, not the Harkles. It's an "I'm not impressed with you. I'm in charge, and you're not worth my time getting dressed up' move.



Imagine me doing the SpongeBob laugh, long version, because I looked at them both and Harry was the one that looked pregnant.

*sigh* I thought that this was going to be an uneventful day. Looks like I should catch up on some comments.
Hikari said…
I think Madam tried her usual divatastic high-handedness on Oprah's team--right of editorial approval and deciding which questions were acceptable, ordering lackeys around, and O. said, "Nope, we are not going there. *I* approve everything, and *I* speak to my people, or we pack up and go home immediately, capiche?" O. was in the drivers' seat and Megsie didn't like it at all. I think she looks seething with barely suppressed rage--or scared, or both. It may just be the Botox and half-inch of eyeliner she's wearing, but I really got the feeling that for once Meghan had been completely neutered and held in check by an even more colossal ego than she's got. Not only neutered, but muzzled. Note that Harry did all the talking in these promos. Meg was permitted to make one sort of affirmative noise.

Oh, she mad. What if just prior to cameras rolling, she and O. had had a giant argument (excuse me, 'creative difference of opinion') over showing Archie? O. demanding, Meg refusing, with increasing levels of internal panic, if she can't actually fetch him from the other room with Nanny. Oprah knows things, all right. I get a pretty big "Gonna let Mugsy twist in the wind" vibe.

It's interesting that a big part of Oprah's history had many admitted co-dependent relationships. She used to find her worth through men. She's very open and honest about how bad it was for her. Maybe she does have empathy for Harry and sees this in him, too. It goes along with the theory that she is trying to 'Save Harry' to get into forever good graces with the BRF.

Based on the bits we've seen so far, it does look like O. is encouraging Harry to speak effusively while squelching Meg. Obviously she will be tete-a-tete with Meg for longer, but it felt like Madam was NOT going to be given the opportunity to take over Harry's segment with her blather. O. may feel protective of Harry--or she may be hoping that if Haz is egged on to speak at length, he's gonna f*ck up his rehearsed lines and let something truthful slip. Harpo Productions, Oprah herself and CBS may be getting a lot of negative blowback behind the scenes for scheduling this interview to coincide with the Commonwealth day activities in London. It just is really bad optics to be so transparently trying to mess with the peace of mind of a 94-year-old lady whose husband is in the hospital, on what is for her one of the biggest events of her annual calendar.

And this spectacle is supposed to match the Super Bowl's ratings? What does 'deluded' smell like when it's at home in the air in Montecito?

Punkinseed said:

Megs looks like a magpie.

Yes, she does. Magpies are highly intelligent birds who are renowned for being attracted to shiny objects, which they will steal, and for being incredible mimics.

Meg has two out of three anyhow.
LavenderLady said…
@Hikari,

Thank you for posting your latest. You are another one I read every word! I enjoyed it tremendously.

Ok back to getting off my bum lol.
Is it possible that Haz covets his brother's wife, as his wife covets his brother?

Is his wife stealing her sister-in-law's chin as well as her gestures?

Could she really be that sick?
AnT said…
@Neutral Observer,

Some Tame Gazelle was the first Pym I ever read, so funny. The Hyacinth Bucket-like Harriet! I love their reappearance in An Unsuitable Attachment, leading the sickly curate through Italy like a lapdog.

And such a good observation on iPhone Merching Teen Meg, and this bulky wan older woman in her unflattering black “Remember my New York Times miscarriage” robes with the creepy lava rock gaze. What?

I tell you, a study of her psychological profile would result in a bestseller and a few Ted Talks. Whatever is brewing behind that blank, bore-eyed, pulled-and-puffed face of hers..... The next photo will be Megs in big glasses, sun hat and draping white linen outside a Beverly Hills acupuncturist office. Plus a report of what she sent to Foster and McPhee’s new son: Archie’s hand-me-downs, and jar of waffle mix.

SwampWoman said…
Brown-eyed said: My husband & I get our 2nd vaccines tomorrow and in two weeks I finally will have a haircut. It’s been a year. My hair has been mostly short as an adult and now that I can put it in a decent pony tail, I found my hair is the same shape and has the same loose waves in the same places as I had when I was 5 years old. It surprised me. Different color, of course.

Anyway, thanks to everyone, again.


Congrats on the second shot! I have heard so much about the vaccines altering one's DNA or RNA or perhaps both. Let us know if you acquire any superpowers, please. SwampMan's second shot is in a couple of weeks, and I should like to know whether he will be able to stop locomotives or leap tall buildings in a single bound. Those seem like rather unhelpful superpowers. I would be happy with teleportation.
Sandie said…
Is it feasible for the showing of the interview to be postponed? Who has bought rights, other than ITV in the UK? What about advertisers?

Oprah wants this to break viewing records, but with Phillip still in hospital, the Queen alone at Windsor Castle, and Commonwealth week coming up, with senior royals all involved, this interview could end up being her worst judgment call.

Although the Queen talks about Harry and Meghan being beloved family, I don't think there is any way back for them, on any level. They are both too self-absorbed to read the room though and will probably double up, then triple the present digging of a hole.

Have you seen their updated website for Women's Day? Bizarre. They have thrown together a list of woke ideas that come across as amateur.
AnT said…
@Hikari,

If I could send you a drum of lattes from my favorite coffeehouse, I would. Brilliant, brilliant essay. Yes,,Megs does look like she was told she cannot set up shots, or produce, and she was out in her place earlier during her private Oprah taping, To me, Harry’s shabby clothes say “nobody loves me, they won’t let me be King, my brother got all the goodies” like begging people to pity him and send him suits and shoes. Well, I do wish William could read your comments.

And yeah, Oprah knows. She may be grinding them up for cash, like oats.

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@WBBM,
Yes. Yes. And, yes!

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@Disgusted,TunbridgeWells,
How did I miss A Patchwork Planet? Thanks, will look for it!

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Mel said…
In addition to the dress not flattering her in the least, it looks like it doesn't fit her very well, either.

Notice how the bodice seems way too big for her.
Christine said…
Hello Nutty Friends-

It's going to be a loooooong week. The constant sight of H&M is so annoying. I am only hoping the general public with no opinion on them will start to feel annoyed.

I put up the following comment on a People magazine article of them. "I thought every click of the camera triggered PTSD in Harry and now they are practically erecting billboards of themselves everywhere." I got many 'likes' and 'loves' even but OH did I get some hate. A few people jumped me saying they wanted the fame and attention at their control and choice. I didn't bother to respond because they clearly don't get it and have no understanding of the Royal family situation. A few comments just went right to the racism card. There is a distinct difference in how H&M are viewed here in the US versus the UK. If I had posted the same comment on a DM article (as I have before), I would have been hailed for it.

So just wondering how this will fare for their popularity. The bottom line is, these interviews usually do not work out. Have you ever seen one of these controversal interviews that really changed things 180 degrees for the interviewee?

The previews are trying to make it seem as if it's hard hitting. I call absolute Bullsh*t. Meghan pulls out some good acting faces like she's under intense questioning. Hhahaha yeah ok. Harry looks like a literal dolt. Harry is trying to look like the man in the relationship like "Umm, umm, Oprah, I had to get my family out of there. I'm all the man, I'm in charge, no really, I am!!" . While Meghan is sitting there fuming because Harry skipped a few of her golden lines she wrote for him.

We'll all need mental health breaks until this is over. We'll have to try to thrive and not just survive this interview fiasco.
Christine said…
Looks lIke Meg dumped her poorish jewelry choices. She is wearing thousands of dollars of jewelry in that interview. As others said above, she completely missed the mark on tone.

Plus the black dress makes her look like Maleficient as she sits stroking the red headed fetus she has within.
She missed her opportunity to do 'high end maternity garden chic'.

In their position, Harry should be dressed as the impeccable, enviable Riiiiich, working family man. Meghan should be the hot supportive housewife who also happens to run a foundation and empire (of what? Who knows, I'm speaking hypothetically for their best chance at success). They need to lean into their state in life and characters more, so the average Joe can understand what would be abnormal, yet aspirational social dynamic. Girl wins the prize, guy adores the girl.

Meghan pretending to have more power than Harry from the get-go has been the great error in their ways.

The narrative they keep pushing: girl has sob story, lays it on thick with Prince, wrecks both lives. Prince has sob story.

This doesn't sell.
Christine said…
Sorry, ranting still....

Harry with this narrative that history will repeat itself. What the hell is he actually talking about. That Meghan will get into a car with a drunken driver, not wear her seatbelt and be chased by the paps into a tunnel? If only, if ONLY Oprah could say as a response, "Don't you call the paparazzi to take shots of you Meghan??"
Hikari said…
WBBM,

Is it possible that Haz covets his brother's wife, as his wife covets his brother?

Is his wife stealing her sister-in-law's chin as well as her gestures?

Could she really be that sick?


I haven't studied Kate's chin or Meg's new chin at length, but while yes, Meg is that sick . . after the number of facial procedures she's had, things may be sliding or getting misshapen without her really wanting them to. Michael Jackson's face looked good after a couple of procedures, but after a couple of dozen, he barely had a face left. Meg seems to have gone apeshizz while in L.A. getting as much work done as she can on the Royal sovereigns before those completely dry up.

No reputable plastic surgeon would do procedures on a pregnant woman. That's one of the first questions they ask a prospective surgical patient. Nor would they inject an expectant woman with a deadly neurotoxin to smooth out her lines. She can either be six months pregnant and 'due in early summer', or she can have spent the last six months getting plastic surgery. She cannot be both. Oprah knows this, too. I wonder if we will treated to a walking tour of the house and grounds that will treat us to Meg's newest Bump show. We'd sure love to see Archie's room with all its natural light and the nursery for the new baby. I'm sure the baby nursery even has its own en suite bathroom.

Re. Harry's feelings for Catherine

Who knows, but I do not lean toward him lusting after his brother's wife. I'm sure Harry was jealous of all the time William spent with the Middletons, but he would have framed that as 'They are taking my brother away from me and leaving me here bored by myself'. Catherine seems very much to have a big sisterly vibe toward Harry, or did. Of course, even a platonic sisterly relationship would present a threat to Meg's singular domination of Harry, just as his bond with Eugenie did.

Catherine is not in Harry's low-rent league and he knows it. Harry feels most comfortable with paid companionship and girls who share his chief interests of drinking, drugging, clubbing and fornication, and by jove, he found his level in Meg. When Chelsy and Harry were young, I misjudged her as the same kind of vapid party girl that constitutes his 'type' and maybe she was a bit, when they were first dating. Her clothes were always a bit questionable. Then I learned that she comes from the biggest landowning family in Zimbabwe and is a qualified barrister, though she gave up the law to open her own jewelry business. Clearly, Chelsy outgrew Harry but he has never matured. How different might his life be now if Chelsy had agreed to enter Royal life? She looked genuinely sad on his wedding day, and I wonder what was going through her mind. I hope it was not regrets for letting him go, but I think it was more regret for watching a good friend really c*ck up his life.

We've had the proof that's what he's done and it just keeps getting worse and worse!
Sabrina said…
@Hikari--
I agree with you--the dynamics in that Oprah clip are odd. Meghan was silent but she looked so sullen and disagreeable. Not smiling and relaxed in the least!

The clothing on her part is so strange, agree on that also. If she wore a dress but it was a bit more boho feeling, the kind you can dress up with fancier shoes and jewelry, but also can be very casual with sandals, etc, that could work. That particular dress is boring and out of place in a garden setting. The shoes are the worst part though for me! She couldn't even walk on that grass in those things! So ridiculous.

I love your notion that Oprah dressed the way she did on purpose. I believe it. I haven't watched Oprah in years, but I used to think she was very good at what she did. She is a smart cookie. I hope I'm not wrong on that.

I also don't necessarily agree with previous posts on here saying Oprah has it in for the royal family. I don't think that is so (I hope not). I would think that she would have contempt for people who don't work hard and are not "authentic". Which would be the Harkles.

Interesting idea that she has been hosting them all this time in Montecito. Makes sense. She would do that to get this interview.
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Hikari said…
Christine,

Harry with this narrative that history will repeat itself. What the hell is he actually talking about. That Meghan will get into a car with a drunken driver, not wear her seatbelt and be chased by the paps into a tunnel? If only, if ONLY Oprah could say as a response, "Don't you call the paparazzi to take shots of you Meghan??"

From your lips to O.'s ears . . .

I have watched those clips several times now and what I took away from that bit was that Harry was comparing himself to Diana, in saying that he was so grateful to have his wife by his side as *he* was enduring the nasty evil press and the PTSD inducing flashbulbs. *He* is not alone, like his mother was.

I think that's the tack they are now taking. Mugsy marketed herself as Diana 2.0, but despite her relentless Diana cosplay, nothing whatsoever about her personal appearance or her personality, conduct, utterances, etc. are remotely like Diana. She has ZERO 'Q' factor and she repels people. So, back-up plan is to keep hitting the "Harry is his mother's son" narrative. Now that H is out of the Royal family, by his own choice, he's going to claim that his experiences are just like hers.

Had Diana not given the Panorama interview, I think the BRF would have been content to let the status quo lie--she and Charles were separated, living in separate households, but still co-parenting their children. It was tacitly understood that both were conducting love affairs, but Diana was too indiscreet. Though not living with Charles as his wife any longer, she WAS still his wife--still had all her titles, styles, Royal protection, luxurious KP apartments they had lived in as a family and the respect attendant on still being married in. No one wanted to rock the boat more than necessary and provoke another Constitutional crisis by having Charles be the first divorced monarch since Henry VIII. It was better to let sleeping dogs lie. If Diana had been willing to be a sleeping dog, she could have still been Queen--and even more saliently--lived to see her grandchildren.

She herself fired the shot that would sever her from all her protections and her chance to be Queen, and she did it recklessly, and high on the thrill of her own daring, scheming plan. That high lasted for a day or two, and then she came to regret bitterly what she had done, because there was no going back. She and Charles may have even eventually reconciled, had she not gone that bridge way too far with the Bashir interview. That precipice is the one Harry's on now and once this stupid whinefest airs, the jump off the cliff will be complete.
Sandie said…
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6766#post-69074827

A tweet from someone who says he knows Harry. May not be true, but it is the same story that everyone tells.
Sabrina said…
@Hikari:
O. was in the drivers' seat and Megsie didn't like it at all. I think she looks seething with barely suppressed rage--or scared, or both. It may just be the Botox and half-inch of eyeliner she's wearing, but I really got the feeling that for once Meghan had been completely neutered and held in check by an even more colossal ego than she's got. Not only neutered, but muzzled.

Just saw your next post--totally agree, this was what I was trying to say but you are so much better at it. Meghan did look "silenced" to me in that clip, by Oprah, and she looked pissed about it!

I really hope that is what happened! She is no match for Oprah1
abbyh said…
I'm wondering if the real reason the length of the show was expanded was to add the sad feelings of loss to the existing victim story already filmed?

And also wondering if it will spontaneously generate a movement in the UK to request he and any/all offspring are taken out of the line of succession? For the Queen, it would be the People have spoken and she was following duty to the country. End of problem.

And it would be yet another shining example of how these tell all interviews do not ever yield the results hoped for.

I have yet to read of any reasons why a friend's home was much more suitable for filming. Although certain parts could be similar to an English countryside look, I thought they were trying to send the message that they were happy in their new country and wanted that California lifestyle not English countryside.

That was an interesting piece - first things. Thoughtful.

Snark comments - some people are good.

As for Omid being able to control the more treasonous posters - Good luck with that Dude. Those are the kind who can turn on you just as easily.


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brown-eyed said…
@Wild Woman etc

When we were in London, we stayed in a flat on Cloth Fair in Smithfield, right across the lane from St Bartholomew the Great Church. It still has the Tutor entrance built by Henry VIII. It is beautiful and we attended a Sunday morning service held in a side chapel—there were only 8-10 people present. That trip was my best ever because i majored in English lit and took lots of English courses. I was in heaven in the British Museum, for example. I wish I could have lived there for 4-5 years. Second best was a trip to Edinburgh when my daughter studied there for winter term, Dec-June). What great fun with super yummy Scotch.
HappyDays said…
Not Meghan Markle said…
@yorkshirepudding

'I am a lurker not a poster. I know some of the stories of markle in Toronto. She is a piece of work.'

Oh! Do share!

@Not Meghan Markle and @yorkshirepudding:

I second that “Oh! Do share!”

Even just a tidbit would be nice.
SwampWoman said…
@JennS: Continues the Duke of Sussex in the clip, “You know, for me, I’m just really relieved and happy to be sitting here talking to you with my wife by my side because I can’t begin to imagine what it must have been like for her going through this process by herself all those years ago. Because it has been unbelievably tough for the two of us but at least we had each other.”

Goodness me, how he does babble on! I need to get out my notebooks and take notes for I have no idea what he means. Was it Canada that was so racist (all those years ago)? I never actually thought of Canada as a horribly racist place. I do declare, I learn something new every day! Was it her family that were terribly racist, such as the white dad that doted on her and spent all of his money on her? Was her mom disappointed that she turned out white? Was LA the racist place? She claimed to be a Caucasian, so I suppose she was victimized for being a white woman?

I'm assuming that Prince Nazi Grey Suit Brown Shoes was talking about The Claw's trials with racism without an enlightened being such as himself there by her side to support the poor fainting flower and perhaps offer her a mint julep to help her overcome the vapors. SUCH an alpha male, the heart pitter patters.

Perhaps instead of racism, he was talking about how difficult it was to be a very bad actress in LA. It was tough going because she didn't have sufficient strength of character or niceness to overcome her deficiencies and, through sheer force of voodoo and chicken sacrifice, became successful in Suits. Allegedly.

He may have been speaking about the Queen reaching back through time and space with her Alien Reptilian Powers in an effort to throttle Meghan's greatness while she was just a child and hamper her career, whichever career it is that she allegedly has. Maybe it is her career of 'service'. Soho House could probably comment knowledgeably abut THAT.
Hikari,

Great analysis on Harry. 'I am my mother's son.' The new theme.

All I can think, though, as I'm sure many others is, "Go get help, and get a life."

It's beyond weird that he is having this eternal existential crisis- the life story of his mother's horrible death (and her service), that he derives his meaning and entire worldview from. It sickens me that he makes Diana's whole legacy all about him. Why don't we hear the same from William?

Is this what Meghan has convinced him? Charles and William are kings leave them be. You are the chosen 'Diana' son, who will live as she did? That, is not normal.


HappyDays said…
So many great comments in this thread!

It is very concerning that PP has been moved to another hospital. Sending him wishes for improved health.
NeutralObserver said…
Wow, so many great comments, & here was me trying to tear myself away.

LOL, @Hikari, @AnT, & so many others.

Hikari, your idea that Oprah looks like a crocodile eyeing a juicy critter stranded on the shore is wonderful. I haven't ever seen Oprah in ruthless mode, just read about those who've somehow ruined their lives by opening up to everyone's favorite auntie. I'm sure Oprah has the chops to demolish Megs, I just wasn't sure she would do it. Your posts are very persuasive.

I think CBS & the rest are blowing it out of their you-know-whats in the stories about huge ad sales & international demand for the interview. Below is a link from this past Dec. on how networks have been struggling for both viewers & revenues. As people get vaccinated, & the weather improves, people will want to be OUT, not trapped in front of their tv sets.

https://digiday.com/future-of-tv/tv-networks-debts-to-advertisers-are-piling-up/
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said: I have watched those clips several times now and what I took away from that bit was that Harry was comparing himself to Diana, in saying that he was so grateful to have his wife by his side as *he* was enduring the nasty evil press and the PTSD inducing flashbulbs. *He* is not alone, like his mother was.

*sigh* Throwing away previous notebooks, starting another one: Chapter 1: Delusions of Harry.
JennS said…
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I want to know why Katherine and David ghosted them, too. David is American music royalty.
NeutralObserver said…
I have complained so many times about how the Harkles have treated their respective families, I feel like a broken record. I hope Prince Philip can survive this latest health crisis. Losing him at this time would be demoralizing for the Queen, the RF, & the British public.

Even if the Oprah interview draws a huge audience, & even if Oprah supports them in their whining, I don't think it will help them. With all that the world has gone through in the last year, Prince Philip's fragile health,& the Queen's advanced age, it's not a good look to be sitting in a luxurious setting, in a big, black Armani muumuu, complaining about your suffering. (Loved the DM pointing out the 'scented' vines, like we can smell them, LOL!) (I also loved the suggestion that Megs didn't get the memo on what to wear from Oprah. Could she be that devious?) Only Megs' craziest stans are going to fall for this silliness.
Ian's Girl said…
Pretty sure the paranoid pair are going to claim security concerns as the reason they didn't film the interview at their own place.

And while I can see O trying reverse psychology on them, I think it's also possible that she has enough sense to know what is appropriate for a casual, outdoor interview.

Nutmeg looks as if she stayed up all night getting stoned, suddenly realized O and crew were at the door, at which point she threw on a robe to greet them and promptly sat under some sort of tree or shelter where the pigeons sit and crap all day.

She is perfectly capable of looking good, I don't know why she insists on trying to be too regal/fancy. I mean, I know why obviously, but how does she not see that it doesn't suit her?! There was one point where she looked like a damn turkey buzzard slouched in its nest.
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SwampWoman said…
I have to say that now, after reading Hikari's take on Poor Harry and the Press, I would maybe watch it but I'm pretty sure that my mind will be occupied by more weighty thoughts, such as what in the world is happening to all my favorite raggedy T-shirts for barn cleaning and farm chores? Is SwampMan sneaky throwing them into the trash? It took YEARS to stretch them out and wear them thin into just the right amount of air-conditioned comfort while still maintaining the illusion of being clothed if seen from a distance.
@Not Meghan Markle,

Several news orgs have said that David Foster began to question why he had never seen Archie when he visited Mudslide Manor. He started to question The Harkle's story about Archie, and when he asked them, they dodged the question. Foster and his wife decided that they didn't want to be involved with them anymore.


Whether this is true or not, I have no idea, but that's the tea on Foster and his wife.



Sylvia said…
Posting the Ophrah interview with Sarah Ferguson Dutchess of York
1996 post divorce from Princem Andrew Just a a reminder of what may be asked .The bad British press are mentioned.


Watch "Sarah Ferguson On Being A Royal: "It's Not A Fairytale" | The Oprah Winfrey Show | OWN" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/87zagGHGSFs
Christine said…
How do we feel about the ratings level on the Oprah interview? I have mixed feelings. The Sunday night audience for TV is probably an elderly audience and they probably don't give a darn about H&M. However isn't it coming on after 60 Minutes, which is a very popular show.

Streaming it will probably pick up more viewers. I'm hopeful that the 2 hour timeframe will be too long and annoying for people and they'll feel that they can just read articles or watch snippets about the interview

snarkyatherbest said…
Im thinking Oprah wanted archie and then low and behold we get a blind item explaining that they cannot profit off of images of the royal family (which I presume includes Archie in that deal, hence why we havent seen him) So we have an explanation floating on why we wont see archie (other than we have to protect his privacy crap).

Hikari- oh how i wish oprah and megs got in a fight because I would love to see Oprah start asking those questions and make comments did you try to fit in? here's my story of racism how does your interpretation in the UK fit with that (as in it doesnt). so no one in the neighborhood has seen archie or the paparazzi what do you say to those people that think he doesnt exist or you dont have custody of him?

alas it will be boring and oprah will be markled when all is said and done
Sabrina said…
@JennS:
And lastly, we have Rob Lowe AKA Hot💋Rob - a very community-minded celeb who has lived in Montecito for decades, who has a lot of connections from many industries, is friendly with his neighbors OPRAH, Ellen, and Gwenyth and has the right combination of nosiness, territorialism, confidence and humor to point out that something is not quite right with the Runaway Royals hiding in his town.
I apologize for bringing him up so often but I just get a kick out of HotRob providing a major clue about the Harkles. Here's to hoping Rob reveals some more Montecito Mud.

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JennS, totally agree!

I think he could and would reveal more about them, given the right forum. I like to think he would, anyway. He IS confident enough, smart enough, and personable enough to pull it off. And I don't think he cares one whit whether Harry and Meghan would be upset.

I absolutely think, the more I ponder it, that Rob Lowe was playing with JC. They all must know in that area what is going on with the property.

I wonder if that was why James Corden got so nervous as the story was going on about Hot Rob following Harry's car?

Was it because James didn't know if he was going to end the story by saying he pulled up to Oprah's???
AnT said…
@JennS,

So, do you recall the rumors that Megs pushed herself forward as a replacement for Ellen, when all the bad press about Ellen came out? Similar to the way she went to the governor’s office with Harry to lobby for Kamala Harris’s senate seat?

I think that was a quick way to lose Ellen’s support.

Next, do you remember the CDAN or Blind Gossip blind about how a certain someone had slept with her singer-celeb former school friend’s much older A list husband in the past, and how people wondered if this friend she was trying to be close with knew that, when the two couples began socializing after one couple moved to California? Maybe that, plus the rumor my friend told me about Foster thinking something was up in regard to invisible Archie, turned into Uneasy Thoughts for Foster?

I think a little of A driving B led to outcome C: no more Daddy Foster or BFF McPhee.

Finally, do you remember when Oprah came out of chat show retirement and did a 2-hour interview with Meghan, and Meghan’s snottiness, superior attitude, weird royal voice, and icy envy during the program really made Oprah angry? And how Oprah decided to get colder and tougher during the taping, and add an extra 30 minutes to her show and mow down this offensive untalented Z-List tramp in honor of Ellen and Kamala and Foster and Hollywood —- and as a warning to Megs not to try to climb onto Oprah’s turf, and not to try any more “reveal” shows? And then, how Oprah was photographed laughing over an al fresco lunch with Hot Rob in Montecito a few days later, the same day Netflix and Spotify cancelled the Sussex contracts, which was the day after the Queen stripped every last title during a live groundbreaking interview with Piers Morgan?

Oh, I think that last one hasn’t quite happened yet. But I think it may be coming. 😉
snarkyatherbest said…
oh had a thought or a wish. what if the extra thirty minutes its so called friends like ellen, the clooneys the mcphee/fosters being asked separate questions by oprah about their relationsship with the two and the answers are all the same, barely know them, did a favor for a friend and they shit all over us. not even a thank you for the use of the private jet, etc ok, that is wishful thinking but it would be good if a deeper dive was done in that two hours
AnT said…
@snarkyatherbest,

That is one excellent theory for why we won’t see Archie! They can use that BRF rule, and tell Oprah, we knew that was coming so that is why we couldn’t show you Archie......then Oprah can use it to cover herself, but she probably knows the truth. And is steaming.

In fact, exposing the truth about Archie is probably the only reason they are worth looking at for Oprah, if we forbid other odd theories.
AnT said…
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Oprah should have given her extra 30 minutes to an interview with Hilaria Baldwin,

who apparently gave birth to her 6th child..... five months after the birth of her last baby, 😳😳😳

according to the NYPost, which has a photo of HB and the new baby and her others kids.

Someone also dropped a video showing Hilaria speaking to the UN in 2019 in her accent

on aN officialUN panel as a half-Spanish expert in human health and wellness.😳😳😳

We are officially in the Meghan-Hilaria Twilight Zone.😳😳😳

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@Ians Girl,

Why would they need to go to a neighbor's house to film Oprah's special when they have two perfectly fine and huge houses (The Harkle's and Oprah's) to use for filming? Both houses are mansions with huge grounds. There are plenty of places they could have set up for shooting which would not reveal anything.

I'm questioning whether they filmed at a entirely unnecessary third house. I think they're in Oprah's or The Harkle's back yard.

@Swampwoman,

Losing those tee shirts must have felt like losing that favorite pair of jeans that have moulded to your body for at least a decade and are as comfy as pajamas. I feel your pain.

@Jenn,

Your new avatar is hilarious!

I don't think that Oprah would have them living at her house. She has lots of things to hide, such as her relationships with Gayle and Steadman and her business dealings. Also, I don't think that Oprah shares her toys very well. I think she would even pay for them to live elsewhere, rather than to squat on her turf. Just a guess. Besides, Oprah knows that MM was caught snooping at BP (or KP?) and taking photos, and I don't think Oprah would take the risk that MM wouldn't snoop. Having guests for a few days is completely different than having somebody living at your home, no matter how big it is.

I'd love to know what Hot Rob knows. Corden was squirming when Rob was talking about following Harry home. Yep, something was going on between the two. what does Hot Rob know?

I thought it was interesting that Piers Morgan is a friend of Corden, too. That guy sure gets around. Does anybody else think Corden looks like a big, overgrown baby? I can't stand to watch him.



AnT said…
@snarkyatherbest,

Lol, we both had thoughts about better ways to use that extra 30 minutes!

Love your idea! Hope Oprah reads it!

AnT said…
@JennS,

I want your new avatar printed on a billboard we put up n LA for one day, March 7. 👏👏👏🤣
brown-eyed said…
@ Thanks Swamp Woman.

@Wild Boar . . . Sorry for writing your name wrong. Sloppy proofing.
Sabrina said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis:
I don't think that Oprah would have them living at her house. She has lots of things to hide, such as her relationships with Gayle and Steadman and her business dealings. Also, I don't think that Oprah shares her toys very well.

I would imagine a setup, if this happened, where Oprah is living in one of her other mansions, like Hawaii, and Harry and Meghan are in a guesthouse on her grounds in Montecito. I read that her estate is made up of a few different houses, iirc.

I definitely agree with you that Oprah would probably not let them crash in her actual house that she lives in in Montecito when she is there, but perhaps another house on the property?
Livi said…
Long time lurker here...my first post. I’m from Scotland and live next to the infamous Dumbarton...we did laugh when M&H received those titles.

I feel so sad for the Royal Family with the Oprah interview...you would think that Harry would avoid hurting the Monarchy when his brother and nephew are so important to it. He is on another planet with Megs and I fully expect Oprah to pander to them. I don’t know if I can bring myself to watch it!
JennS said…
AnT said...
@JennS,
I want your new avatar printed on a billboard we put up n LA for one day, March 7. 👏👏👏🤣
.................

I was so disappointed that it can't even really be made out properly. I put Diana's/Kate's tiara on her head and you can't even see it! And I spent a bit of time making the tiara image into a png.😢 I had something else I was going to add but didn't bother after I saw how it looked here. Even when you click on it to view on my profile for some reason blogger shows a really low-resolution version. That always happens with every avatar.
I'm going to find a better place for it somewhere!!!!
@AnT,

I forgot about the blind about somebody sleeping with somebody else's husband. I think there's some truth to that rumor/blind. It's entirely possible that Foster used the services of a yacht at some time and ran across MM. Foster does love the ladies a bit too much.
Brown Eyed - no need to apologise.

I'm quite used to my official names being mangled! I'm not fussy about how my first name's pronounced either, having once been given hell at school from trying to correct someone.

Life's too short/
Ian's Girl said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis, I didn't mean that I believed it, rather that it would be an easy excuse for them.

I've about reached saturation point with the two loons. I know they will always try to stay relevant, but once this interview tanks, I doubt anything big will come their way. Some mild interest when their hatchling arrives, but they have hidden Archie so much ( or whatever it is they are trying to get away with) that I can't see anyone getting too excited about seeing this new one, either.



Livi. Always nice to see a new face. Think JennS has volunteered her services and is going to watch it and then report back.
JennS said…
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@Jenn,

I'd love to see AnT's avatar on a billboard, too, but MM would turn it around and say she's now the lead in a new production of The Birds!

@Livi,

Hi! Welcome to the club!
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The Oprah interview will be after 60 Minutes, a show that skews to a very old base. I think it may get good ratings (people will be curious, as we are), but what The Harkles say and how they act is what will sink them. Oprah, too.

From the Wrap:

"The median ages of some of the oldest-skewing series currently on broadcast television — such as “Blue Bloods,” “60 Minutes” and “Madam Secretary” — nearly reach the Social Security bracket. They also practically double the corresponding age of TV’s youngest-skewing programs, including “Family Guy,” “Vampire Diaries” and “Brooklyn Nine-Nine.”

I'm sticking to my guns and will not watch. Poor Jen, having to deal with two hours of three delusional, self-important people. Thanks again, Jenn for taking one for the team!







JennS said…
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@Ian's Girl,

I understand. I was just ruminating on an idea. I don't think Oprah would even let them live in a guest house on her property for any period of time longer than a few days. She knows she has to watch MM like a hawk.
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Can somebody explain this to me? If the new rules are that no member of the BRF can be filmed, how can Harry and MM be on screen? Harry has lost his military titles, but he is still a member of the BRF. If Archie can't be filmed, why can Harry and MM be filmed? I'm confused about this.






JennS said…
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JennS said…
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@sylvia,

thanks for putting up the video of Oprah interviewing Fergie. Oprah had already made up her mind about the BRf, and she really hates them. A quote from that interview, speaking of diana:

"The tabloids are vicious. You think they're bad here, but over there, they're REALLY vicious. Tried to kill her. Literally, tried to kill her." When, Oprah, when?

Oprah's hatred of the BRF, which she calls a game, hasn't changed. Talk about vicious.

That interview was when Diana was still alive, so I expect the same thing from this interview. A bashing of the BRF by Oprah and leading questions thrown to the Harkles to put the BRF in the baddest light possible. Her jealousy of the BRF is palpable. Probably because she's never been invited to the palace. Oprah will not be ignored, just as MM won't.

I wonder who would win if it came to an out and out fight for the crown between Oprah and MM.
AnT said…
@JennS,

I can see your new avatar very well, even the tiara, on this blogger posting page on my iPad where the full images show in the rectangles. Everyone, just click Post a Comment to see it, even if you choose not to comment.

Maybe little pixelated if enlarged, but still very good and very evident you used Diana’s crown. You also used the Megs image with the perfect expression in my opinion. I love your avatars.
Maisie said…
Perhaps the Harkles are reading this blog and our musings if they are really in Montecito, as they don't get papped in area. A Daily Mail Exclusive: 'A very somber Harry and Meghan go for a drive in Santa Barbara.'
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

Oprah would win. Gayle would leap out from the pool house to hold M while Oprah lets loose and rains hellfire upon her.. But M would only have Haz, who would look around nervously for a security guard, start to cry in fear, then lope off to go pee.

Oprah, in less than one round. Probably, four minutes.
Fifi LaRue said…
@NotMeghanMarkle: It could be that Markle did the same thing to David Foster as she did to Alex Ohanian.
For those who don't know, it was the Sharon Stone move in Basic Instinct. Markle can't help herself, she's looking for her next mark, and Harry is too thick to notice.

It's brilliant psychology on Oprah's part to be dressed casually, while Markle over did her clothing.
Finally saw a still from the clip.

She looks absolutely awful. I mean "rode hard and put in wet" awful even though she's wearing designer clothes and (heavy) make up. She looks OLD! Or at least her age.

Would love Oprah to ask "how is your life better since marrying to the BRF?"

and

"If you wanted to continue your commonwealth patronages (or whatever), why did you move permanently to a non-commonwealth country?
Sabrina said…
@Jocelyn's Bellinis...

I stand corrected, thank you very much for sharing that about Oprah and her past hatred of the BRF. I had not paid attention to those interviews and had no idea Oprah felt that way about them.

Casts a different light on the interview for me. I was thinking that Oprah, being only out for herself, would be very willing to throw Meghan under the bus, so to speak, to get something explosive. Looks like my perspective is WRONG.
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In a battle of the narcissists, I believe Oprah would win. Meghan is out of control, veering from thing to thing like a ping pong ball. I think Oprah is much more calculated and sees the long view.
Fifi LaRue said…
Here's a question I want answered:

Since you left all the responsibilities of RF, have found your freedom, and are living in the California paradise, why aren't you two doing the Happy Dance? You're still both angry, bitter, complaining, and whining. Why?
Maisie said…
Excerpts..."The couple were seen looking very somber while driving around Santa Barbara with the Duchess' mother Doria on Sunday afternoon - hours before two teaser clips from their no-holds-barred primetime interview were shared, sending tremors through the palace by laying bare just a few of the sensitive, and potentially-uncomfortable topics discussed ty the Sussexes.

In exclusive images obtained by Daily Mail.com, Prince Harry, 36, is seen behind the wheel of the couple's Range Rover while driving his 39-year-old wife and 64-year-old mother-in-law near their home in Montecito.

The couple appeared incredibly somber while out for an afternoon drive with Doria, who was sitting behind her daughter and remained partially-hidden from the camera."
Snarkyatherbest said…
Wait. Whose watching archie?
JennS said…
How weird!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9314135/Prince-Harry-Meghan-look-somber-driving-Santa-Barbara-Oprah-teaser-release.html

PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry and Meghan look very somber as they drive around Santa Barbara with her mother Doria - after opening up to Oprah about 'tough' exit from 'un-survivable' royal life during explosive interview clips
JennS said…
I'll have to take their word for it since I don't see Doria in those photos - nor Archie.🤣
@JennS, She looks like she's about to cry, like she got hit upside the head with a 2x4 and is wondering what just happened. However, I don't think she's capable of the real feelings necessary to cry.
JennS said…
This article claims that not only did they re-edit the interview but they also taped additional footage since the Harkles lost their patronages.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9312515/Oprahs-explosive-interview-Harry-Meghan-taped-friends-home.html
JennS said…
@CG33
Yes! She looks a bit like she did on the balcony that time H told her to turn around!
Can you see Doria?
Hikari said…
Re. Glum Harkle photos

Oh, my Gawd.

Well, well, well . . Dare we hope that Oprah humiliated them and basically chewed them new buttholes? If Meg had been able to control this interview and have it only be hearts and rainbows--if Oprah was Scobie--don't we think she'd be smiling in Duper's heaven?

Oprah bested her in the questioning and there's nothing she can do about it because she had no editorial control whatsoever. Then mayhap Oprah said, "Okay, that's it . . We are Done. Move your crap out of my guesthouse and do not call me again. If you harass me or my staff with phone calls and e-mails, I'm releasing the outtake footage. Now go away.

I think this is it, my Nutties--they are toast.

But look--Harry's mastered driving on the right side of the road. He doesn't seem as affected as Meg, but then he always looks like a smacked bum face.
NeutralObserver said…
@Sylvia, Thanks for providing the link to the Oprah interview of Fergie. (As well as all the info on Barbara Pym!).

@Jocelyn'sBellini, I didn't feel Oprah seemed that hostile to the BRF. I thought both Fergie & Oprah seemed fairly likeable. Fergie seemed to be selling a book she had written, but wasn't too pushy about it, & Oprah was interested in how unglamorous life in Buckingham Palace was behind the scenes. (Did Andrew & Fergie live in Buckingham Palace, not Kensington Palace, & didn't the Yorks spend a fortune on some big McMansion which they decorated with Ralph Lauren?) It's not surprising that some royal residences aren't that luxurious. The US president's quarters in the White House are pretty so-so by billionaire standards. Trump complained a lot about them. It was also interesting that the audience that day in 1996 seemed to be almost entirely white women.

@JennS, Once again thanking you in advance for watching the interview! You pushed back on @Snarkyathebest's theory that the blind was an excuse not to show Archie. Does that mean you think Archie will make an appearance? @Hikari & @Snarkyathebest had made me tempted to place a small wager on whether or not Archie will appear. I don't think he will, but I might be wrong. If he does, it will increase interest, but wouldn't they leak that he would be in the program to get more viewers? Not a peep about Archie in the promo drivel, just Harry's weird story with Corden.

LOL, yes, the Harkles must have read this blog & felt they needed to make an appearance driving around, & yes, there's actually no sign at all of Doria in the car. Does Harry driving mean they have no security officers? The pics are from Backgrid, which IIRC, Megs has called for pap shots in the past.
@JennS, yes, I do see Doria in one. She is behind MM. I can see her dreads and glasses. From the DM article, the photo is labeled with this: "Meghan, 39, failed to raise a smile as she sat in the front passenger seat of the couple's Range Rover, while her mother Doria Ragland (seen over Meghan's shoulder) rode behind her in the backseat".
You are right about her looking like when they were on the balcony and JCMH told her to turn around. Chastised.
@JennS, man, and a face like thunder on him.
NeutralObserver said…
@JennS, I too, love your avatar, I don't whether I like it best, or Harry Longstocking. You've had some great ones.
NeutralObserver said…
@ConstantGardner33, Yes, I can see a bit of Doria's head.

They may not have been coming from seeing Oprah, the article just says they were seen 'hours before two teaser clips' were dropped. They do look somber.
Sandie said…
Those who are expecting Oprah to be critical of Meghan in any way are very mistaken. Oprah is not a journalist. She is an entertainer.

Harry, once the most popular royal other than the Queen, Diana's son, still sixth in line for the throne, is her biggest catch ever. Meghan may have got the most interview time, but Harry was always her target. Meghan is being used.

Oprah has a huge chip on her shoulder, about race and privilege, among other things. She hates the BRF. Despite her immense wealth and fame and media presence, Oprah does not have the power and status and respect and historical gravitas of the Queen of England, and never will have. The Queen, and Harry, was born into privilege.

Of course, Oprah also regards the interview as a coup, but I wonder if she is realizing that the interview may be the biggest mistake of her career, and she has shown some very bad judgment calls in the past.

I kind of hope I am wrong because I kind of always liked Oprah.

I have just watched the new documentary on Anne and Zara, and it was an eye opener for me. Meghan the narc must have felt so inadequate in a family of strong characters, high achievers, trail blazers, and so on. Unfortunately, Americans won't watch the documentary, even though it is on YouTube, and will believe the complete false narrative being peddled by Oprah and Meghan and a very confused and brainwashed Harry, who does have family and friends who love him and must be grieving his loss.
Sandie said…
I doubt that it is a happy marriage and since landing in America, they have found it difficult to hide that when papped in public rather than a PR photo shoot.

Poor Harry is stuck with the mother-in-law who is not going to lose her pot of gold! Maybe she supplies the weed so Harry can get through the day!
Maneki Neko said…
@Livi

Welcome to the blog! Presumably, being from near Dumbarton, you've never seen the earl and countess of the same name?? They've never graced Dumbarton with their presence. They probably couldn't even point to it on a map.

@Puds

@ Maneko Neki and @ Miggy, I think you both did some great lists of Megs lies any chance you could repost them nearer to Sunday's show?
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I can't really remember, this must have been quite a while ago. I'll try and find a list or else will write one from memory. The list must be quite long, where do you start? It might be easier to write a list of things she said that are true.
Sabrina said…
They really do look glum in that photo!

They have made so many missteps, things they just grossly miscalculated. Approaches that just landed wrong. The list is loooooong.

Recent gaffes include putting the photo of Harry and Diana and the lines about "I am my mother's son" on the Archewell site, which many people disliked, or the Remembrance Day cemetery photo shoot, which I assume they would never have done if they had been able to see into the future to see the negative reaction.

I wonder if after they lost the patronages and other roles they went off and now they are regretting some of what they said. Especially with Prince Philip seemingly very ill. They realize this was a huge mistake but they can't take it back now!

I hope that's the case!

Prayers for Prince Philip's health...I hope he is doing okay. I like to think Charles looked so teary leaving the hospital because PP had just read him the riot act regarding H & M, and not because his father's condition was very poor.
AnT said…
Staged photo.

“Sigh.Sigh! Oh how sad we are, barely surviving in this shiny new $83,000 Range Rover hybrid vehicle, driving sadly along, suffering through the byways of Santa Barbara where, if people don’t watch our two hour Armani-clad cringe fest, we will know all of Santa Barbara are racist misogynistic haters too, and we will be forced to move our little family yet again. Just knowing this is making us sad, even too sad to plan and do the podcast about famous hat-wearing pregnant feminists which we mentioned to Oprah during our two-hour program to be shown March 7 on CBS. My hidden mother or large carpool lane driver’s buddy doll is so sad too, you are breaking her heart, America, and if you don’t watch our two hour Oprah special, it will be like you are saying the daughters of mothers don’t matter and that Princess Diana doesn’t matter either. Princess Diana Matters! So, we are sad, sad, sad as we drive aimlessly around on a Sunday, the first time we have ever been photographed doing so since we got here, so strange too because it is just a week before our two-hour Armani dress Oprah special. And all we can do is drive drive drive in sheer exhaustion, worn down from people trying to destroy our privacy as James Corden did to my husband just the way Hot Rob basically stalked my husband at a Montecito stop light and shattered him, shattered us, simply left us in an unsurvivable emotional place about living, driving, our hair and life. And now we are somber, panicked, fearful about pulling into the lavish mansion where we live, so on we drive, without security guards, hoping my husband won’t need to pee again. I only allowed him the oars today, not the milk, so we should be okay for another two hours in our $83,000 Range Rover hybrid hell-scape, the same amount of time we will spend on CBS on Sunday March 7 in the Oprah universe where we will spill all, even about how Princess looked at me once. God, will we ever feel safe enough to return to our $14 million mansion where our lobster salad and waffles wait with our chefs? God. We don’t deserve any of this!”
Acting out their permanent emotional state of doom and gloom. They look ridiculous.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie - yep feminist markle couldnt compete with the strong women of the BRF. I would not want to cross the queen, anne or zara Fierce!

Have to agree with everyone, even with her go to pap she wasnt happy and given the pink lipstick i am guessing it was after the oprah interview or retakes. Does that mean there is an interview with doria in there?

Maybe archie stayed with Auntie Oprah and prefers her to MM? ;-)

Finally, like the references to Hot Rob - yeah how does he get better looking with age. we need him on this board to dish the dirt!
Ziggy said…
I wonder what that thing is suctioned to the windshield in front of Harry. My first thought was one of those cameras they put in people vehicles for reality shows, etc., but in that case there would prob be on in front of Meg too.
Maybe a GPS? But I find it odd that the Range Rover wouldn't be fully loaded, including GPS.

So I'm back to camera. Hmm.
Snarkyatherbest said…
ziggy - maybe its his cell phone while he waits for his next Uber customer ;-)
Maneki Neko said…
@AnT

You expressed the Harkles' 'unsurvivable' life so well! Your writing was so full of pathos! This is really a Greek tragedy! I think we all share their pain 🙄.
Ziggy said…
@Snarkyatherbest *snort!!*
NeutralObserver said…
@Sandie, Yes, Anne & Zara are blood royals & don't need to prove their status. Anne's decorating style was attacked when a Covid Zoom video showed interiors of her home. Anne doesn't need an Architectural Digest spread to prove her status. She's a born royal. She probably spends more on her show jumpers than on interior decorating. Her The Windsors character outdoes pre-Marley's ghost Scrooge in her thriftiness.

Your comment about Megs being intimidated reminded me of stories about the Kennedy family here in the US. The Royals, & the Kennedys are very sporty & outdoorsy. Apparently, Joan, Ted Kennedy's first wife, who was an accomplished pianist, felt overwhelmed by the the touch football & sailing loving Kennedys. The Kennedys aren't royalty, far from it, they're from Irish peat farming stock, & Megs is nothing like the gentle Joan, but it can shake a fragile ego if it's confronted with challenges to their self esteem. It's puzzling that 'tungsten' Megs is so fragile, though.

I don't understand why Megs looks so chastened in the driving around in Santa Barbara photos. It does look like she's had her head handed to her, as in TOC 2019. I'm not a psychology expert, so can't explain.
Teasmade said…
You know how H has whined recently about being afraid that history will repeat itself? (Sorry, I can't go find it, but it's been quoted here.) Something about paparazzi, privacy, blah blah blah?

Well, some sharp-eyed viewer has noticed that in the new Range Rover pix, he's not wearing his seatbelt properly. It's "on" -- maybe "fastened" -- but it's "worn" behind his back.

So far no one has pointed out the obvious comparison.
HappyDays said…
Snarkyatherbest said...
Maybe archie stayed with Auntie Oprah and prefers her to MM? ;-)

@Snarkyatherbest: Maybe to save money on child care, they just locked him in the closet where Harry is usually locked up.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9314255/How-Prince-Harrys-TV-grandfather-sick.html

Much wisdom from someone who knew Diana personally.

What I did not know is that Oprah tried to get an interview with Diana and was sent away, but not before Diana gave her tea at KP. Oprah has never spoken of this. Why?

Diana had far more wisdom than her son and more class than Meghan, Harry and Doria combined could ever have.
AnT said…

@Maneki Neko,

I admit I wept a little as I transcribed their pain, I don’t know how they do it. The bravery. I —- damn it, I’m crying again.

🙄
lizzie said…
@Teasmade,

I was just going to say that! Yeah, asking history to repeat itself.
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Miggy said…
Stopped by to have a quick read before heading off to bed. Some great posts tonight!

@Livi, Welcome aboard! 😊

@Puds, I don't recall ever making a list. I could probably add to one though! 😄


Also - re the 'unsurvivable' comment made in the video promo that they released. Wasn't that to do with her being the MOST trolled person EVER? (rather than the bad press)

As for the DM article showing 'glum & glummer' out driving... it has been pointed out that the photos are from BackGrid. So did Megsy call them??
AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,
@HappyDays,

They were probably driving around trying to find a new 3000mAh battery pack for the Snarchie doll. Heading to Vons, hoping they stick them with kitchen items. Harry was sad after being screamed at by Megs for forgetting to order one when he ordered their rolling papers and Bunion-Away from Amazon. Megs was tense because Oprah asked questions after Snarchie’s chest stopped breathing motions and Doria threw him into a duffle bag out of habit; Megs was able to cover by saying he holds his breath when feeling shy or hungry for a waffle.
Oprah said okay, but they had one last chance to videotape him sitting upright by the Wendy House on Sunday evening and that’s it!. Doria, slumped in the back seat in her favorite 1978 gym shorts, was seething that she gets blamed for everything with the damn doll-kid, and that her daughter married the kind of moron who forgets to buy rolling papers. Doria comforted herself that she was at least going to surprise them by doing a secret Literally! With Rob Lowe podcast about Snarchie and Haz, and she would probably get another few $50 a week yoga students out of it, so she wouldn’t have to touch the nine million dollar nest egg this week. At the thought of Hot Rob, Doria purred out loud in her corner of the backseat. Now that was a real slice of man! Too bad Megs’ man-feet had kept her from California gold like that.
snarkyatherbest said…
@ Ant love it Doria purring at Hot Rob!!!!
NeutralObserver said…
@AnT, Lolololololol. I can totally see that scenario, especially Doria being miffed about the rolling papers.
Miggy said…
@AnT said:

Megs was tense because Oprah asked questions after Snarchie’s chest stopped breathing motions and Doria threw him into a duffle bag out of habit; Megs was able to cover by saying he holds his breath when feeling shy or hungry for a waffle.

OMG - I have tears of laughter rolling down my cheeks. Brilliant!! 😅😅😅
AnT said…
@snarkyatherbest,

“Waiting for his Next Uber customer”!! 👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pantsface said…
I have a feeling that this interview is going to be a massive own goal for Team Markle from the British point of view, we don't like whingers, especially overpriviledged pampered whingers when the country has been going through turmoil due to covid, but I doubt us Brits are the audience they are appealing to, after all we are all racist and toxic. So I question who the heck are they trying to win over? I doubt those over the pond have much interest in a couple of losers who had it all but threw it all away, for what? Bad timing (not their fault) re PP but really everything they touch turns to crap. Imagine the furore if PP passes around the time of the interview being screened, (I sincerely hope he doesn't) anyone with a modicom of decency for their unwell grandad would pull the interview until the outcome is known.
Where is Archie's car seat?

I can understand not taking him to interview/reshoot but what parent takes the car seat out every time they use the car without the kid?

No one ever.
lizzie said…
Some good points IMO.

How CAN Prince Harry's TV show go on while his grandfather is so sick? As Oprah's explosive interview with Harry and Meghan nears - and with Prince Philip still receiving treatment in hospital - RICHARD KAY asks an urgent question

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9314255/How-Prince-Harrys-TV-grandfather-sick.html

Sorry if this has already been posted. It's hard to keep up!
Mel said…
All staged. Pic credits are from Back Grid. She called them herself, like usual.

Man, those lips....
AnT said…
@Miggy,

“Glum and glummer”! 🤣👏✨

Yeah of course she called them! Or, maybe it was written into her Oprah contract.

Proof: She was wearing a Car Hat, and her old CNN Heroes lip gloss from her pussy bow blouse granny garden video.

She posed those fishlips into “unsurviving” mode, looked straight ahead. She was ready for those paps!
Sabrina said…
It is weird because it is so unclear who they are trying to appeal to!

If she is courting the younger crowd, then her dress, accessories, and styling in the Oprah trailer are all wrong for that. I don't think they know what they are doing, it is so bizarre.

The two of them have been complaining in an echo chamber for so long it's like they don't realize how tone deaf it makes them look. I hope this is the start of a big downfall for them and this interview backfires royally (haha!).

I think it depends on Oprah to an extent--is she invested in protecting them and making them look good, which is possible if they have future projects or investments together? In that case the show will be boring and repetitive with a lot of word salad and dull softball questions.

OR is she going to go for the gold in terms of a ratings or payday payoff for herself? In that case I could see Oprah pulling something out of her sleeve and surprising them somewhat. Prodding a bit on Archie or on other things.

I'm hoping anyway that it could happen!
AnT said…
@MustySyphone,

You need to reread your Rachel Meghan Motherhood Handbook. Page 12.

Archie’s car seat is “secured in the cargo space behind the backseat. Babies are safer from paps in the trunk or cargo area. Because babies need less air and light than humans, they can be strapped into place In your auto cargo section for up to three days.”
punkinseed said…
We call that area the wayback.
HappyDays said…
Re: The pix of the Sussexes driving around on Sunday:

Either the Sussexes themselves or someone associated with them was directed to tip off the pap agency BackGrid to make sure these photos would happen.

Anybody who knows much about photography will tell you these photos were shot with a telephoto lens, so the photographer from BackGrid knew the route they would be taking and the approximate time they would pass through so the photog could be prepositioned to get the photographs.

For a pair of supposedly private people, these two are incredibly thirsty for attention and aren’t fooling anyone.

But then, as far back as when she was in Toronto filming Suits, the paps said she called them all the time. The Sunday photos are contrived, just like the photos of Meghan driving on the freeway to the airport in British Columbia to pick up her yoga instructor and the photos of Meghan with Archie strapped to her as she walked in the park in British Columbia.

These two people are incredibly pathetic in their thirst for attention, but perhaps this is a week-long plan to keep them in the news either daily or almost daily in the lead-up to Sunday’s interview show. So as with everything associated with the Sussexes, it’s just a bunch of contrived and thinly-veiled hype.
Hikari said…
Not sure what to make of Philip being moved to the much larger, state of the art cardiac center St. Bartholomew’s, or is those in the know call it, Barts. No’. The hospital is one of the top heart specialists in the world, and was made famous of course by Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson. As Philip stay in hospital approaches two weeks, his longest ever, that is concerning. As is the idea that the smaller hospital he was in had maxed out its ability to care for him. On the positive side: he was well enough to be moved, and has not been placed on hospice. If his doctors felt he was near the end, wouldn’t they sent him home with hospice, Since he could be made as comfortable at Windsor for palliative care. Philip is a heart patient, and there must be concerned that this ongoing infection might affect his heart. Philip does not seem at all the type to be willing to die in the hospital, And as long as he is conscious I would expect him to get his way in terms of final wishes.

Sending all good thoughts and wishes his way. Forth Bridge must keep standing to mark the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee. God will have to wait a while longer yet.
Mel said…
Megs was tense because Oprah asked questions after Snarchie’s chest stopped breathing motions and Doria threw him into a duffle bag out of habit; 
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Omg, laughing til I'm crying. We should paste that on the header so we can read it and laugh every day.
punkinseed said…
Pantsfa, I do not know what you mean by "own goal". This dim yankee is not getting the term. Could you please clarify? Many of us yanks cant stand whiney whingers either. It is the big mouth, loud minority who buy into the victimhood mentality.
xxxxx said…
Correct Hikari....One must speculate that the infection is now in The Prince's heart which is bad news. The good news is that Prince Philip has been moved to get the best UK care for this or what ails him.

History of PP's health problems
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/philip/a-timeline-of-prince-philips-health-problems-155954/
snarkyatherbest said…
see if oprah wanted the viewers her trailer should have teased with the question "where's Archie" i would then have to break by promise and actually watch.

@Ant you are too hilarious!!
xxxxx said…
And my prayers and thoughts go out for the indomitable Prince Philip.
They're starting their "I'm so put upon and have been treated horribly by the BRF" act on early to try to jump up the ratings and the gossip about them. Any news is good news and PR for MM. Anything to get her name in the papers and on TV.

Some of the still photos show MM giving her death stare to Oprah. MM probably can't stand that Oprah has so much more money and fame as her, but still wants to be MM's buddy for future use. I don't think Oprah will push them hard, but she's good at winding her way into getting people to say things that they want to avoid.

I think the Harkles are getting paid or a cut of the action for this interview. They just don't want anybody to know because now they're not supposed to profit off of the BRF. Hey, Mr. Taxman, I hope you're watching.

Pantsface said…
@Pumpkinseed - you are not a dim yankee!! It's a British saying, attributed to football (soccer) originally where a player by mistake scores a goal in his own net rather than the opposing sides net giving the opposing side a goal - in general life it means an action that unintentionally harms one's own interests.
Pantsface said…
Also @Pumpkinseed - I love the different sayings we have, depite speaking the same language - I was horrified when a friend of my half sister (Canadian) mentioned that she was talking smack - smack over here is heroin, took a few messages to sort that one out :)
@pantsface,

Ha! That brings back a funny and embarrassing memory for me. In high school gym class, I, at five feet tall, was the worst basketball player in the class. Everybody towered over me. Finally, one day, I get the ball, and head to make a basket. The ball goes in, and I cheer. Then, I notice that I had scored on the opposing team's net. I was crushed, and my friends never let me live that down.
AnT said…
Regarding Prince Philip (and sending good thoughts for his recovery)...

When my grandmother was about 92, she was diagnosed with heart failure. This coupled with edema, which water pills controlled well enough. She was otherwise quite feisty and well, like Philip,

But, she got a severe UTI on two occasions, when she was about 94, and another around 96/97. On both occasions her progress was identical to Philip’s (viewed from out here, of course): long hospitalization on IV antibiotics, then a specially composed tougher round of antibiotics, again by IV. Due to the stress on her heart from the infection, after the infection was controlled and subsiding, she was moved by her heart specialist to his preferred hospital, one with an outstanding cardiac unit.

She was monitored there for two or three weeks more, to be safe due to her age and heart issues. After that she went for two weeks of physical therapy in a sort of physio spa living center, to strengthen muscles (that had weakened from all that time in hospital beds) while still monitoring her heart and making sure the UTI did not flare up or reoccur. She loved physical therapy, so she aced through and was able to come home a few days early, as if it never happened. Even at 97!

So, like Philip, she was very closely monitored and kept hospitalized for quite some time. Her doctors told me UTIs can have a hard effect on already struggling heart muscles. It felt like touch and go to me, both times, nerve-wracking, but every time I visited, I was told this was expected and not to worry.

So, from that experience with my grandmother, I am still firmly holding out good hope for our tough, jaunty Prince Philip.
AnT said…
@snarkyatherbest,

Right back at you! 😁 And that is so true — if Oprah promised us the story of Archie and a reveal, I would break down and watch too. She must know the world thinks everything around that kid is just too strange, don’t you think?
JennS said…
I too am becoming more concerned about Prince Philip.
The lengthy hospital stay and the change in hospitals is concerning. I know from experience with my mother that the longer you are in the hospital the more chance you have of picking up hospital-associated-infections like MRSA. And these days with covid I think most people really want to avoid a hospital setting.
In addition, the DM articles pushing to postpone Oprah's interview seem to be adding to the tension.
I really hope PP doesn't have a TV in his room and all recent Harkle news is being kept from him. If he passes away any time soon I don't think the RF will ever forgive Harry and Meghan for the stress they are causing. I know I would always associate their antics with his death.
Sending prayers and best wishes for the Duke of Edinburgh to live into his 100s.
Prince Charles and his siblings are so lucky they have had their parents with them alive and healthy for so long.
Greyhoundmom127 said…
Regarding the “somber driving” pic and whether it was papped by them- why would anyone wear a wide brimmed sun hat IN the car. Not only that, worn properly it would be pulled down low on the forehead...oh wait, that would cover her face!
JennS said…
@Ant
Thanks for your post about your grandmother - that's a heartening and encouraging story!
Also love your latest humorous posts including the purring Doria chasing our HotRob. Hands off D, he's ours!

@Snarkyatherbest
HotRob has become our unofficial Nutty Blog mascot!🤣
Harry's probably drumming up scenarios to get himself in the papers off PP's illness. He took lessons from when his wife took advantage of her dad's heart attack and played victim. He's at the part where he's thinking about how he can sue Philip, and call it press invasion.

lizzie said…
@Greyhoundmom127 wrote:

"Regarding the “somber driving” pic and whether it was papped by them- why would anyone wear a wide brimmed sun hat IN the car. Not only that, worn properly it would be pulled down low on the forehead...oh wait, that would cover her face!"

True. But the way she's wearing it is probably the only way it could be worn when sitting in a car against a seat back. If it was pulled down in front, the brim in back would come up against the seat back.

I agree it is odd though. Most women would take that sort of hat off in a car. Of course, there are plenty of photos of Meghan wearing a fedora when going swimming with Harry in Jamaica. I don't think most women would do that either.
Humor Me said…
I honestly have no idea what this two hour interview hopes to accomplish for H&M. HMTQ's actions (removal of the patronages) has already been accomplished. H&M are out from the Firm, not the family. Technically, Harry has won (as it appears on paper) as he has what he wants - out from under everyone's thumb (Dad, Wills, the Firm) But, Harry wants to be "relevant". Harry is incaable of realizing how much his actions have dissed his Grandmother. That the Firm is airing a special before the OW show airs in the UK is interesting from the standpoint of telling it like it is: settling all debts and family business.
Hikari said…
Who’s ready for a little break from glum Harkle drama?

Meg’s fellow Narcissist, Instagram addict, faux ethnicity appropriator And all around liar and attention whore, Hilaria (Hillary) Baldwin had just presented Her sixth newborn to the world. There are a few head scratching things about the new arrival however.

Hillary just delivered her fifth child, a son, in September. If she had conceived another baby the instant she got home from the hospital, this child would still be more than three months premature. As I related earlier, I was 10 weeks premature, and tip the scales at under 3 pounds. Take a look at Hillary’s latest Insta worthy family portrait... there is a baby in the photo, who looks very healthy and also approximately four months old, give or take I am not a super judge, but no way is this baby a newborn, and certainly not a preemie that small. If he been born at six months, he’d be in the NICU.

The other difficulty with this scenario is that it would have had to have been an immaculate conception, since Alec Baldwin by his own admission has been living separately from his family for most of the last year Because he works in Manhattan. The rest of the family was at their Long Island house due to the pandemic. This means that Alec is not there to supervise his wife’s crazy, And since it had been several weeks since She was unmasked as a fraud for pretending to be Spanish for the last decade, she needed some Narc fuel. She may have dropped out of college, faked being Spanish and exotic to lore a dumb horny old celebrity guy with gobs of money, and she may be nothing special as a yoga instructor without a fake background to make her interesting, but she has discovered one talent...Cranking out Alec Baldwin Spohn every 18 months. This however would set a new personal best, besides being more or less physically impossible.

Hilaria has so many kids, even she has forgotten what number she’s on. She has labeled this picture with a cryptic “7”. Was she high, did she actually flunk arithmetic or is this some kind of veiled threat to her husband? Alec must be as interested as we are to find out where this baby came from. It doesn’t seem likely that he’s been involved.

I have a feeling that as our society continues to deteriorate, rampant Narco crazy like Meg and Hillary here are going to become garden-variety normal in a few years’ time. I really quail for our future.

Hikari said…
Even Vanity Fair Sounds dubious.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/03/hilaria-alec-baldwin-sixth-new-baby-instagram-announcement/amp
AnT said…
@JennS,

I am hoping for a good outcome for Prince Philip, who will obviously get even better care than my grandmother received. Because the hospital he is going to also specializes in cancer care, I am a little concerned but still, am betting strongly on his recovery.

That said, if I stood tonight in the shoes of the Queen, I would be more than halfway into whatever steps need be taken to reduce the Harkles to untitled rubble. Nothing would stop me. Nothing. Charles would be banned from speaking to me until the act was complete, signed so hard by me the paper would be gouged.

The mere chance the Harkles’ selfish, offensive destructive antics could reach Philip’s ears (via TV, gossiping nurses, etc) and upset him — would fire me onto the battlefield like a nuclear tank corps. These two clowns would be so thoroughly finished, flung so far into no man’s land, they would be be hyperventilating the rest of their lives.

Please, someone, make me Queen for one day.
@Ant,

You'd make a great queen! Somebody needs to take action, and quickly. HMTQ doesn't act quickly, and Charles is somewhat oblivious, so it's up to William (or you) at this point.

I'm so worried about PP. I hope he pulls through. My thoughts are with him and the royal family.
Elsbeth1847 said…
RE: photos of them in the car

What I keep thinking about is how grim they both look. Someone mentioned no happy dance question but this is more like a funeral. Perhaps they got some call from overseas with more bad news? I mentally hear the Star Wars Imperial March (aka Darth Vader's theme).

Sandie, what is the documentary on Anne and Zara? sounds good.


AnT said…
@Hikari,

Thanks for talking about the Hilaria baby narcsplosion. I posted about it earlier today when I saw it in the NYPost, but I think people thought I was kidding. (I suggested that Oprah devote her extra 30 minutes to Hilaria, and it would be the perfect double-crazy program.)

As I said, this is like we’re in the Meghan-Hilaria Twilight Zone now. Plastic babies, invisible babies, babies born full-term at five months....what is going on?

Hilaria’s “7” was meant to include her husband’s first daughter Ireland, who he had with Kim Basinger, per the NYPost.

My question is — did she go completely nuts over being exposed, and is this a baby a purchase or sly adoption to make Alec stick around?

By the way, someone today also released a video of Hilaria in 2019 sitting on an important UN panel as a “human health and nutrition expert” — the giddy UN chairman of the panel introduces her as half American and half Spanish. She gives her responses with a fake accent. Her replies were so laughably brief and stupid, too, something like “in Spain we eat milk and meat” and the beaming UN host praises her knowledge as if she cured cancer.

The link to her UN appearance:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/03/01/hilaria-baldwin-spoke-at-the-un-about-being-half-spanish/

Where do these women sprout from, and how do they get so far?
@lizzie,

If I wear a hat, it has to stay on for the day because it flattens my hair so much. maybe that's why she's wearing it in the car? However, I don't wear 10 pounds of yak hair, so who knows?

As for the fedora, I think she was trying to make that her trademark, but got so much flack about it that she gave it up. I'm sure we'll see it again, though.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

I think William feels as adamant as we do, don’t you? He is going to make something happen if these two don’t self-destruct on the show. I really think so.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari. Could hilarious’ “7” count the child she miscarried? Doubt she would include Alec’s child from first marriage. Hilarious strikes me as one not likely to be filled with any empathy toward anyone outside of her little sphere. 😉
AnT said…
@Hikari,
@Snarkyatherbest,

From the NYPost tonight about Hilaria’s baby news:

“We’re still not issuing a statement or confirming anything — what she posted stands,” the couple’s rep told Page Six on Monday she asked for further details.

???🤔
lizzie said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis wrote:

"If I wear a hat, it has to stay on for the day because it flattens my hair so much. maybe that's why she's wearing it in the car?"

You could be right. But given how M''s hair looked in the Oprah trailers, I'm not sure she's too concerned about flat hair.

But I don't wear hats all that much so I don't know. When I do wear hats, I either wear casual hats (baseball caps, sun hats) that I can easily take off without messing up my hair because my hair is so casually styled anyway on those days I can fluff it with my hands, OR I wear fornal hats (on very rare occasions) but I wouldn't swim in those and they wouldn't be "sun hats."

Regardless, wearing that hat in a car seems to suggest the photos were planned. Otherwise, if a person is as upset as her funeral face is supposed to suggest she is, hiding flat hair wouldn't be a priority.
SwampWoman said…
Heh. To me, Markle looks like she's had so much surgery and Botox that her face doesn't move.
@lizzie,

You're probably right. If she was truly upset, she wouldn't care. I have very fine and thin hair, the opposite of MM's 10 pounds of yak hair, and hats do really flatten my hair badly. I wear baseball caps and very occasionally a sun hat, but that's it for me, too.

I think the photos were planned, too. They were taken by a company that she calls regularly for pap photos, although she will never admit that.
Ian's Girl said…
Big hat to keep sun off of her freshly treated (?) face, prior to interview?

I think they are looking sad on purpose, to tug at our heartstrings, you see. Doesn't she use Backgrid a lot for paps?

I don't even know what to say about Hilarious. I hadn't realized so many of these Hollywood types are batsh*t crazy.
JennS said…
**NeutralObserver said..
@JennS, Does that mean you think Archie will make an appearance? @Hikari & @Snarkyathebest had made me tempted to place a small wager on whether or not Archie will appear. I don't think he will, but I might be wrong. If he does, it will increase interest, but wouldn't they leak that he would be in the program to get more viewers? Not a peep about Archie in the promo drivel, just Harry's weird story with Corden.
..................

@NeutralObserver
RE: Will we or won't we see Archie during the Oprah Interview!!!??🤣

If the blind is to be believed, it was about not being allowed to use family images when they are involved in money-making activities.
The press had reported that the Harkles are NOT getting paid for the interview and the preview clip showed a photo of Diana so I think even if it's true that they can't monetize any family images, they could still use them in this situation.

I don't know if the blind also refers to limiting the actual presence of family members during commercial activities. I don't think anyone could put constraints on that, could they? If the Harkles want to merch baby clothes via Archie I don't know what's stopping them. Even if the RF was not happy with that how could they stop them - they have broken so many other rules already. The fact they haven't merched the kid is another reason why I lean to the Fauxchie side.

Regardless of the blind and whether or not this is a commercial activity, I don't think there is any good reason NOT to include their child on the show...other than there is something shady going on with Archie. My guess however is that he will not be on...not a live version anyway. I think we would have been given a promotional tease if they were going to produce him. Not having him on will strengthen the theory that there is no Archie.

I guess there is a chance footage of him will be shown. As others have said they could show a tape of him that doesn't provide clear identification.
If they only show old photos and footage we have seen already then I think that would be a bad sign and a very big point for the Fauxchie side.
In summary, my bet is no live Archie, possibly new but unclear footage.
🤣🤪🙄🤪🤣
JennS said…
SwampWoman said...
Heh. To me, Markle looks like she's had so much surgery and Botox that her face doesn't move.
.......................
And it looks recently done.
Another reason to doubt she's 5 months pregnant.
She also looks like she has a smaller belly in the Oprah pics compared to the tree one.
@AnT,

I hope that William will step in and put an end to this madness, but he has to go through HMTQ and Charles first, and I'm not sure they would allow him to do what needs to be done.

I wish they would stop the Diana memorial dedication, and put it off for a few years. If Harry (and MM) show up for that, all the attention will be taken away from the event. People will be furious that the Harkles, or even Harry alone, dared to come back to the country that they have so abused.

I'm a bit miffed that HMTQ has not put a stop to this, and now we in the US have to deal with her idiot grandson and his devious, sleazy wife.
Crumpet said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

B'ball. That is so funny. How did you ever survive high school after that. Now, that is almost unsurvivable!

JennS said…
@AnT
Rob Lowe has a feature on his podcast show called LoweDown Line.

"Got a question for Rob? Call our voicemail at (323) 570-4551. Your question could get featured on the show!"

ROTFLOL!!

Hi Rob...Love admiring your hot rippling muscles as your ride those gnarly waves. Just wondering if you've ever spied the child Master Archie with his tufts of red hair?
Sandie said…
I doubt that the story about the Harkles not being allowed to monetize family images is true. How would 'they' monitor and enforce that? The Harkles are now private citizens, living in America.

Even the PR that is still put out in the media about upholding the Queen's values is just that - PR from the Harkles in order to pretend that they are still somehow officially representatives of the Queen.
Sandie said…
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D93C1nQzS2us&ved=2ahUKEwix6LCM5JDvAhUCXRUIHUAdAckQo7QBMAd6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2xNy5ojTw5RQl3W4XcBM-n

Hope this link works for the documentary: Zara and Anne: Like Mother, Lke Daughter 2021
@crumpet,

I went to a small private school, and, luckily, most of the girls were my friends. They did joke about it for awhile, but I did, too, so all was well.

It was so frustrating that they could just toss the ball over my head like I wasn't even there. Oh, the life of a short person!
Sandie said…
A lot of people in the media and on social media are asking why the Harkles are so miserable, always whining, and so on.

When you think about it, Harry had a lot of fun and laughter in his life before he met Meghan. Even Meghan seemed to enjoy holidays with friends, and getting together with friends and family, before Harry.

They keep blaming the media, their families, whatever.

I have a theory ... they are a really bad match and are actually miserable as heck with each other, but they invested so much in this great love story and all the PDA and perfect posed photos ... they can't face the truth and admit their marriage was a really bad idea. Without Harry, Meghan faces going back to the life she had in Toronto, but now with a damaged reputation and two kids in tow. The psychology is too complex for Harry to throw the towel in on the marriage. Go back to what? And two children being ferried back and forth across the Atlantic?

The Harkles are going to stay together, unhappily ever after.
Sylvia said…
How callus & disrespectful all involved in the nasty tv interview are showing themelves to be .
Its a new low. The previews for the programme on the day PP deteriorates.
Unbelievable Yet unsurprising.for sociopaths Barca they are textbook imo
I hope they all live to regret their vile behaviour to HMTW and her family at this time .Karma payback.
All of the people involved in this vile interview.should be ashamed
The veiled warnings/threats to TRF is dhocking but right now ?
What empathy they all lack. Its so apparent not hidden .It's ugly .
The kindness messages they spout should be called outby everyone.

The ghastly pair I their recent paid for car photos.
Are they both trying to make a point about pap intrusion again?
The hat makes her more visible in the car.

Meghan Markle and Harry's Oprah show won't be pulled if Prince Philip's illness worsens

EXCLUSIVE: TV bosses’ refusal to pull Prince Harry and Meghan’s explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey could  detonate a 'diplomatic bomb' if Prince Philip's health worsens, an insider tells the Mirror          




BY CHRISTOPHER BUCKTIN21:59, 1 MAR 2021UPDATED22:33, 1 MAR 2021

Producers of Prince Harry and Meghan’s interview with Oprah Winfrey are refusing to pull the tell-all chat irrespective of Prince’s Philip’s condition.

TV bosses’ refusal has the potential to detonate a “diplomatic bomb” if the Duke of Edinburgh’s health worsens, an insider says.

It is not known whether Harry, 36, has made appeals to Winfrey or makers CBS to postpone its airing due to the health of his 99-year-old grandfather, who had to be moved to a different hospital

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-harrys-oprah-show-23588292.amp
R_O said…
Just finished watching the documentary about Zara and Princess Anne. What a remarkable mother and daughter they are. I've always liked Princess Anne's no-nonsense attitude. Her dedication, sense of duty and devotion to the Royal Family is respectable. She made the right decision not giving her kids a Royal Title. Hence, they had the freedom to live the lives they want and be financially independent. Harry and Meghan should take a page from Princess Anne's book. Give up their titles to live the private lives they claim to want.
Maneki Neko said…
@Greyhoundmom127 and Lizzie

Re the wide brimmed hat that Megsy wore in the car: could it be so that they could be spotted more easily from a distance? It's very difficult to make out passengers in a car but with her big light coloured hat, Megsy was easy to spot for the photographer.
Freshly treated face, quite likely.

Ol' Fish Lips looked as if she's just had more gunk injected - lips puffed up with associated redness of chin.

I saw an `escort' in a late naughty channel last night whose lips were so inflated they looked a car inner tube - bicycle pedals be damned. I was intrigued by the programme because it featured people making porn for the internet in their own homes.

For example there was a dominatrix living in an ordinary house in Swindon with her daughter but with a dungeon on the premises - `Mummy's a sadist, Darling'. Some of her customers enjoy being humiliated by having to clean the house (Imagine, getting the charring done by a bloke who's happy to pay for the privilege - that's what I call a business!)

Another, younger, `star' on the Co Durham coast made so much cash from her antics that had bought herself a £250k Lamborghini - turned her nose up at a Ferrari although it would have been £50K cheaper.

There's clearly a market for that sort of thing, although `so different from the home life of our dear Queen'. Back to what we were hinting at earlier.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-charles-withdraws-financial-support-harry-meghan-022209785-051119155.html

- but only regarding those postal costs, it seems, though they were pretty substantial.

At least it's a start.

Miggy said…
So the UK will be able to watch Oprah on Monday! (ITV)

What joy! 😫
Sandie said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1404357/Royal-family-news-Meghan-markle-latest-court-case-prince-harry-queen-prince-Philip

I will do some digging and see if anyone is covering the court case in depth (remember, copyright ownership and the amount of damages still have to be decided).

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