Let's continue the discussion.
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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There is not an average black family in America who has not cracked jokes at a baby shower hoping the baby won't take after Blue, meaning someone on the mom or dad's side who is so dark they're blue.
There is much talk about cocoa, or carmel or chocolate, etc.
Now, I grant you, that is totally different than having an old coot from the most elite family on the planet wondering aloud about how dark the baby will be, (and honestly, I do believe something along those lines was said, and I bet it was PP, but wouldn't be surprised if HM said something completely innocuous about the baby having a lovely complexion like Doria or something like that) but it was only mentioned to cause irreparable harm, or blackmail them in to all the titles, cash and precious security this bitch thinks she deserves. (And we all know she doesn't care about that, only that she had got it into her head that the security came with a title)
They didn't mention William because they knew darn well bad-mouthing Kate would be the most painful thing for him, and they don't look like asshats dissing the brother people know he was once close to.
The conversation was about speaking with the family (zooms with Archie), he loves his father and then we get to his brother.
He mentions that there is a lot of hurt and that there will be a priority to heal. what? I don't doubt the pain that is there but there is something unemotional about how he talks about this - he will be working to "heal" this.
She lies EXACTLY like the narcissist abuser I worked for in my first managing job, the woman who was sending staff to the hospital with panic attacks, chest pains, actual heart attack, stapled hand, head smacked into wood door,, etc.. Maybe that us why I had such a strong appalled reaction tonight. When we exposed her, with evidence and strong statements to her face she kept lying, looking like Meghan, until our last big evidence, then she fell apart in a screaming crying rage and Spewing excuse and collapsed dramatically (fakery) and was fired.
Someone or something exists to pull Megs plug too. When it happens, Harry will get the eyeful of his life as the banshee emerges.
My guess, she wanted a trust fund for Archie so she could ditch the dumb, boring prince.
Hope their love is truly eternal.
I would love to hear what a psychologist says too. Looking forward to Believing Bruce this week.
All I can say is it seems textbook narcissist/victimizer and resulting victim control to me.
I think we should call for a boycott of every company that had an ad on this program. Watch the ads closely. They are targeted.
I also think that any charity that gives them publicity should be boycotted, too. The Harkles count on people's good nature to not disrespect charities, but if they aren't smart enough to understand that they are being used by the Harkles, they aren't smart enough to handle my money or yours. Just take the publicity away from them in any form.
Elsbeth1847, yes I picked up on that too. Harry doesn’t seem to want anything to do with William. He must know he’s betrayed him.
AnT, I let my husband know you agree with him and he said, ‘damn right!’ And ‘hello!’.
I think for those who support the RF in this mess, Charles actually comes out looking good. If it's true that he stopped speaking to H after they fled to Vancouver and that he cut off funds, then kudos to him! Well done. There's no other way to deal with a couple of narcissistic wankers than to simply cut them off. We'd assumed he was still mollycoddling them and funding them, and perhaps he is, but it doesn't seem to be as bad as I thought and he appears to have drawn his boundaries regarding what they can and cannot get away with. We may not agree with those boundaries, but he apparently does have some. This is, of course, provided what H said about Charles is true.
I just sent an email to one of the Behavior Panel guys. They do deep inspections of body language and behavior (they did an excellent one on Andrew's disastrous TV interview), with probably more than 100 years of experience between the four specialists. I asked them to do one on this interview. Hopefully, they will do it sometime in the future.
But they may have taken it initally to get her a Visa or other resisdency paperwork completed when she moved there. Of course she makes it sound omnious like she was in the tower of london, but theres probably a simple reason she purposely omits for drama.
Ha! Hello Mr Jessica — I totally 100% agree!!
Jessica, by the way —-Harry’s Firm statement that Megs gave birth — and the running child on beach looking yet again different from Christmas Archie... are we supposed to believe writing Archie on everything means they have care of a kid who is heavily verbal before age two, whose hair changes from straight to curly to straight, red to brown, just he changes from baby to 4 year old to 2 year old?
Are we expected to forget the falling bump, wrong sized bumps, and the bump-free evening with Markus at the baby shower in addition to the 11th pregnancy, hospital fakery etc? I also don’t believe she is pregnant now — look at her shoes, her dress fit etc. Your thoughts?
I think Harry must have an IQ of 70.
I also have the impression Megs is making him believe supernatural hoodoo about Diana reaching from beyond the grave to make sure he spends his money on Megs.
Also his no money but for Netflix thing—- they have produced nothing. Paid millions for what?
Re: Psychology. My mother is a therapist of 30 years experience, I asked her to watch and give me a diagnosis and a take on the couple dynamic. I'll report back her take.
In the meantime, wow, Oprah, what a cynical, irresponsible interview to broadcast around the world. Stoking all sorts of ugly implications without a single receipt.
Please let there be a videotape of the dress fitting!
I can't believe that anyone at the Times believes she was suicidal and no one helped her. Perhaps they are just going over points.
We are talking about a chick whose husband and BIL are making mental health their top charity, a family who have had family members going back decades ( including this heifer's own husband!) seek out therapy for a variety of issues.
Well done you! 👏 Fantastic idea! Wow I am dying to hear what they say! Fingers crossed they can do it soon.
Thank you for finding and posting the articles! I am jumping on your posts to read now! I am so gah over the interview between seething and just stunned at the blatant lying, and laughing at what a mess the Harkles are.
Off to read since I am too thumping mad to sleep.
No I don’t believe a thing from these two about ever changing and omnipresent ‘Archie’. Now they’ve put out the lack of security being their excuse to hide him...no chance. Perpetuating this conflicting story of Archie is so strange. New parents should be happy to share everything about their child. They only discussed his race issue (gee hard life for an unborn/newborn) and lack of security. What the hell? Oh and he says hydrate. Which we just tried getting our little one to say (yes he’s up, late nap today- don’t judge! Lol) ‘hydrate’ and he just stared at us then kept playing with his toy. Then my husband exclaimed how odd ‘drive safe’ is. Diana reference? Via Archie? The whole Archie narrative and their obsession with what he is and achieves and not who he is, is scary. Spending the entire time screeching about security and their paranoia, while their home address is splashed across papers? Then revealing the gender of the new baby AND the timeframe for the birth? On primetime??
Nothing they do or say in regards to children and child safety makes any sense whatsoever.
Says to me they are in need of publicity, real bad, and money. Their numbers were down across the board online. We see the silo of information, but there really isn’t a lot of interest for washed up Royals. We still don’t know what they are doing now....
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Is that true in the UK as well? Can that be what they meant?
I had an experience with a cleaning lady, about 40 years old, whom I'd just hired. I've worked with employees for more than 40 years, and many are still friends, so I'm not a horrible boss.
When I was giving her a simple direction as to how I wanted something done, she went into a fit of rage-crying, throwing herself on the floor and screaming at the top of her lungs like a baby. I was truly frightened at her behavior because I'd never seen anything like it coming from an adult. But it seemed phoney to me in some way.
I told her to get up, get her things and get out of my house. she continued to cry and thrash around on the floor, slamming her fists on doors and wall. I'm sure that my neighbors could hear her. I picked her up by the neck of her shirt and threw her out the front door. She went to her car and threw herself on the ground and continued the crying and screaming, rolling around on the ground.
THEN, as I was watching her from the house, she looked around and noticed that nobody was giving her any attention. All of the crying and screaming stopped on a dime.
She got into her car, threw it into reverse, and on her way out, hit a parked car and drove off.
It was the attention that she wanted, not comforting. I ended up calling the police about her hit and run, told them of her mental problems, and asked them to do a welfare check.
For a couple of weeks, she would call me, and I wouldn't answer, but she'd leave messages that I was going to hell, would be burned in fire- very weird things. Eventually, when I didn't respond, she gave up.
"One of my friends married a Frenchman, and they had to have a civil ceremony to make it legal; -the church ceremony is more for... I don't want to say for show, but a church-only wedding isn't binding legally.
Is that true in the UK as well? Can that be what they meant?"
Absolutely not. France doesn't have a "state church." England does and the Monarch is its Supreme Governor/ Titular head.
And if there was such a rule, a ceremony conducted by the head honcho of the COE wouldn't be a civil ceremony. Not sure it counts as COE either since those ceremonies have to be in a church but wouldn't be civil either.
I'd give the cow her name right back to her, yes I would.
First thing BP should do is announce that in light of how deeply Ms. Markle feels about having lost her name, that all styles and titles will be removed, effective immediately. This will naturally include her husband, so there won't be any discrepancy in rank or perceived worth.
Oh my god! That is insane! That person sounds like a classic manipulative grifter, though, and you definitely dud the right thing! A friend working in Rome for a university told me once of a professor who married a woman PhD candidate he only met at a conferees day knew a couple of months, brought her to Italy, married her and she did that sort of thing — in the middle of lecture halls, on the street, in offices, once at an airport — fall down crazy crying fits if someone was watching — she did it to get him to give her money, to force others to put her name on research papers, etc! Students witnessed it and told my friend the woman would look around to see who was there then launch in and only money or deals got her to stop and leave. It was a nightmare so be glad you didn’t fall for it and threw the lady out. Sometimes these people are “crazy like a fox” as they say. The professor divorced his not case after four years of hell and she grabbed a new victim.
"Did "almost 2 billion people" watch that wedding?
Not even close. 18 million UK and 29 in the USA (47) and then there other commonwealth or other places."
So Oprah lied as well!!
Thanks for that.
I wish an investigative reporter would just go through the list of lies and debunk them. Maybe Valentin Low will.
Also the race thing. I'm sure MM suffered some. Especially on S M. I can only think of two: the Staight Out of Compton headline and a chimpanzee reference. Honestly, what is the palace supposed to do? The smart thing is to get off SM and stop reading about yourself. I dont believe for a second MM doesn't read about herself.
Why pay for all thst PR and then not read it?
What these idiots want to do to free speech is terrifying.
Thank you Jocelyn! I agree. Harry seemed even dopier than usual in this interview.
I apologize for the many typos. I was trying to make notes in real time, and it was moving fast.
Also corrections: I said PP was not mentioned, and apparently he was and I missed it.
And I think I heard Archies favorite word incorrectly: He says "drive safe", not " hydrate" . And his favorite word is still "antidisestablishmentarianism" of course.
Great comments everyone! Its going to be interesting by Tuesday.
"She did no research and “never looked up my husband online”. As a result she “didn’t fully understand what the job was, what does it mean to be a working royal?”
Bingo! She did nothing to help herself. Why would she expect others to help her?
Betting she is deeply regretting ever having anything to do with her now, assuming it's true.
Funny how we have to doubt every word that someone says.
These post are so valuable as I am reading and remembering things I forgot and the order.....or exact words. In some ways, it is even worse than I may have heard as I was trying to write and post and missed a couple of things, I even took a call and somehow missed the beach thing with “Snarchie”
..... this article is so damning, so much the BRF or staff could potentially sue her for. I hope Kate does sue, I really mean it. Enough is enough. I feel they are trying to sully the royals to have a story to tell Archie, too, so fir his grasp of family reality alone, some royal needs to sue them for slander. Megs isn’t just lying as usual— she is attempting to change the records of British Royal history for the sake of the political agenda she shares with Oprah and her “employers”....
I'm five feet tall. Throwing a person out the door is HARD! Thanks for understanding just how crazy some people can be.
Thank you again to those of you who watched this horror and reported back.
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@Ian's Girl,
The UK was a member of the EU at that time but I do not believe that would have had any effect. Civil marriages are legal in the UK and were going back to the early 1800s (I think) Anyway, well before the EU. But religious ones are binding too.
The reason? Visa issues.
Agreed.. the suicide claim was so totally made up. She was careful to say she hid it from Harry, notice?
And yet in her lonely, never heave the palace for four months imprisonments, she was merching her heart out, running an illegal borrowed-but-billed clothing ring with Messica, sucking up at Vogue and laughing uproariously in the lame photo shoot for Smart Works, clowning around in hats with editor Enninful, flying to million dollar baby showers and tennis matches, offering a view of her personal landscaping and scraped knees to Mr Serena Williams, making avocado toast and laying out robes for house guests, arranging with oligarchs for Canadian mansions, hanging with Elton John, going to $$$$$$$$$$ spa hotels with Harry, wearing blood diamonds, ordered ugly $90,000 gowns, and doing tons of healthy yoga and meditation while training Harry to do the same and eat better and quit smoking....
And we were told repeatedly that Doria is a licensed social worker and that she was advising the Harkles, remember? So, where was her motherly expert advice to her daughter hmm?
This is such a barrel of nonsense.
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Perfectly expressed AnT
Yet another "untouchable" (and unverifiable) protection for MM against mean people.
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jessica said...
My husband said if they were truly racist they would have never allowed the marriage.
He’s right.
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He sure is Jessica!! That needs to be shared everywhere
She was at least cunning enough not to go directly after the Queen. But Prince Charles took a hit -- which I didn't expect. Though I guess it was better for Meghan that it came from Prince Harry rather than from herself. Then she went after Catherine in the most condescending manner imaginable, which ticks off the center square on my Harpo Hosts Harkles bingo card. Both were of course too cowardly to attempt a direct attack on Prince William.
I'm slightly surprised that Camilla and the York girls escaped unscathed.
Nothing but sticking up for her people just as she should, but of course the strong, independent, invincible woman that MM is couldn't handle a polite correction.
The absolute gall to blab all about while pretending she is sticking up for Catherine is typical, but it does sound like the sort of thing that would get under Nutmeg's skin, if an untrue story about her making Kate cry got turned around from this incident.
Just a thought, it seems like an awfully risky thing to say if not true.
And lizzie, thanks!
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I look forward to watching a billionaire question two millionaires on how hard it's been leaving billionaires, to continue being millionaires. Thoughts & prayers to Harry and Meghan in this difficult time, as they adapt to new staff AND a new mansion. #HarryandMeghanonOprah
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@ Pantsface,
perhaps to the uninformed, but Prince/Princess are not titles, these are styles. Duke/Duchess is a title, and of the highest order. In the UK the only Prince/Princess title, is The Prince or Princess of Wales, which is one notch below The Monarch. The HRH means Haz is a royal duke as opposed to a non royal duke.
@AnyaAmasova: I think they should remove all of the titles and forbid them from using the styles Prince or Princess in their dealings with anything that is a source of earned income for them, including any salaries they pay themselves through Archewell. It would be along the lines of HMTQ forbidding them to use Sussex Royal.
Let them see how far they get making money as Harry and Meghan Windsor. That doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as Duke and Duchess of Sussex or Prince Harry and Princess Meghan.
Look at his body language during their zooms. He looks like a man who has lost all hope, lost the will to live.
@JennS,
These post are so valuable as I am reading and remembering things I forgot and the order.....or exact words.
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Yes, I was hoping we would get a whole transcript. I bet we do by tomorrow!
That article seems a little out of order though. I definitely pasted in exactly the way it was but they tacked on stuff at the end. I guess they were in a hurry to submit it.
You missed black and white Snarkie??? Oh no! And he was on the beach no less....
You could barely make him out and he has different hair than his Christmas Cartoon version. Also did you notice that the Chick Inn was the playhouse on the Christmas card?
Do you know when Oompa is running the rest of it tomorrow morning and during what show? I will record that too.
On Gayle's show, of course, Good Morning America.
We need a list of the whoppers/lies Meghan is peddling:
1) no help for suicide while pregnant- while having access to teams of specialists, and her entire family working for mental health charities
2) stuck in a home for 4 months (wasn’t this towards the end of her pregnancy...)
3) schedule/diary of her time in the RF, total of 18 months including a pregnancy and birth, how many days at the spa getting mud masks with Harry
4) her expense report
5) Kate being a vicious mean girl to the new girl Meghan (this one makes me laugh)
6) not knowing anything about the RF, while also being friends with Eugenie
7) the Savior Complex narratives -are they setting things up for Archewell to be a telechurch 2.0 ‘we can save you too, send us cash’
8) Archie and his directives ‘drive safe’
9) Charles/William
10) protection issues, yet Harry rides around on a bike and we now know all their intimate details (where they live, their kids)
To me, it all comes down to money. Titles to Merch (Sussex Royal and website and trademarks), Harry to merch (Netflix, Spotify), children to merch (girl), titles for protection = funding. Charles cutting them off and Harry’s anger with him, ‘financial independence’ claims in Megxit, now access to Diana’s trust fund because Harry was forced into it. Claiming they didn’t have a plan, yet trademarked and announced Archewell in March 2020.
All the rest pales in comparison to what their actual antics and goals have been: to make money and be sure Meghan gets her piece of Harry’s pie.
Does Harry understand this? I go back and forth, but no I do not think he understands she is using him 100%, while convinced he is her ‘white knight/Prince Charming/hero complex’. She’s the only thing that gives him meaning.
He fears the Queen.
I came across the following comment on the DailyMail, posted by Matt..., from Wales, UK.
"Within the first 2 minutes she said she was friends with his cousin before meeting him... She claimed not to know who is remember. That set the tone for the nonsense that was to come."
A well-to-do friend of ours had a GF like Megs who said sge knew nothing about him, his company, his wealth, or family — nothing! She had a whole giggly eye-batting girl next door act. He believed her for a year until he found a folder of old printouts about him in her nightstand when he was looking for a cough drop. He calls it the head cold that saved his life.
She expects us to believe she could not look things up on a computer or phone, but she could write 10 page letter drafts on her iPhone and fire trademarks open corporate entities with her US managers? See could run The Tig and never spend time online? Book yacht dates and not look up an anthem or protocol tips? Please. She is no astonished Amish teen seeing London for the first time. Her lifelong friend Ninaki told about Megs’ shelf of Diana books and how she watched tapes of Diana’s wedding avidly, and there is a photo of her with a friend holding a magazine that featured Kate on the cover.
And there have been ample stories about help she was offered. She is telling me Harry sees she is suicidal and the Queen loved her and no one could arrange training or education for her?
Nope, don’t believe it. But I do believe all the tales of her thinking she knew more than anyone and rejected advice to be true.
They told her to wear a hat when out with the Queen — she refused.
They told which car door to enter, and, nope.
At the memorial ceremony the man told her wear to stand — she refused three times and kept pushing up to stand with Harry, wrecking the ceremony and almost causing a collision.
They told her where to walk at public street greetings but she dashed around and caused security issues.
She insulted foreign leaders by blowing past a king and his son, yes? And wearing her hair loose into a place of worship,
All of this is ON VIDEO and we can see it. Shut up, Megs, you lying trash and broke rules and ignored directions on purpose.
And how shameful for an educated feminist with five million dollars (eye roll) not to simply hire her own protocol advisor or cultural teacher especially when you were able to slip,out and do the Vogue editing secretly after being told to focus on your actual duties —— you clearly weren’t too trapped for that little escape, eh?
2. Complaining (to people under draconian COVID restrictions) about not being able to go out to lunch with friends. Um, maybe invite your friends over to the PALACE you're living in for a lunch that would be 1000 times more fancy and memorable than any restaurant.
3. Oh Meg; the things you've lost... You didn't "lose" your dad. He's still alive, and you've ditched him because he doesn't fit with your narrative. And the "miscarriage"- I tend to think this latest "bump" will end in miscarriage as well to drum up sympathy.
4. RE: Security. You two act as though security is your only concern- Charles cut you off so you had to move and let Tyler Perry pay for your security. You are both millionaires- pay for your own damn security. (It's never even crossed their minds! Wouldn't want to dip in to their own finances for that. They make me sick.)
5. Charles stopped taking your calls... LOL.
6. The Little Mermaid story was SO CONTRIVED I almost barfed.
7. LOL- Meghan dazzled like Diana on the Oceana tour... riiiight. Everyone is jealous of Meghan.
In conclusion- that was painful and embarrassing. Looking forward to the comments tomorrow :)
Hi and welcome— and what a brilliant comment you found!
Ha, It’s true! And that alone totally blows her whole story out of the water!
Thank you for sharing that! 👏😄
Even crazier they didn’t rent a home for a year. Meghan had to lock the money down!
The article may seem different at the end because they may have been updating in real time and didn't have time to re-write the entire article.
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I'm wound up, but feel the need to back away from The Harkles and Oprah tonight. Piers says he is going to have a great time this morning going over the entire interview. Expect fireworks or at least steam coming out of Piers' ears.
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Nite, everybody, and thanks to those who posted the show and to all who commented. I think all of you did a brilliant job! See you tomorrow for more on the tale of Cry and Deny.
"Do you think the baby will take after our side or hers, darker like her or pasty-ass like you" nothing meant by it at all, just joking among close cousins... because the more I think about it, would Harry have even been so shocked at his grandfather popping out with a comment like that?
I fail to see why he thought mentioning it to Nutmeg was a good idea, but she was probably always pointing out alleged racial slights to him and this may have been something that struck him as the type of thing she was always on about.
It HAS to be someone he is fond of, or he'd have named who it was. (I suppose the argument could be made that it never happened and that's why they won't name names, but for some reason, I believe this one, I think partly because I can hear PP saying something along those lines and partly because I think if Nutmeg was going to make it up, she'd say she overheard it or it was said to her when Harry wasn't around, knowing Harry would believe her)
Good list!
Also, is she saying she was suicidally depressed (and stuck at home without a passport) when she went to NYC for a week for her baby shower?
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Wonder who cleans that chicken coop while they are busy living their "authentic" lives?
The second worst thing he did was publicly admit he had no issues until Meghan.
I bet she turned into ‘hot tea’ Megs that night when they got home.
O’Preying Mantras
I want to slap her silly, smug face
We knew what was coming,
it’s all about race
And her royal life so unfair, and so hard
She took a lo’ blo’
On all, all for dough
As she foisted upon us her OWN PetCard
Such great points.
Re #7 — if Megs dazzled so much, why was Andrew sent down with a daughter immediately to smooth things over with angry hosts?
And why was Harry angry, heard arguing with her constantly, and locked of her room per several staff reports? Her tacky see-through dresses, hanging price tag, her rudely mocking of and laughing at the kids singing the traditional mosquito song, rudely bleating the market to go to a spa with tagalong Messica....Yelling at chefs, throwing tea...blowing off the Invictus duties at the orders of your puppet master Meg......
....yeah, great tour performance, Harry. By the way, see a doctor as the habits you like seem to be eating your memory,
I don't watch them, either. Oprah said at the end that she would be talking about this on GMA with Gayle tomorrow (today).
Nite and great job! Thanks for all of your hard work.
Excellent!
@MagathaMistie,
Yay! Perfect poem for how we are all feeling. Thank you! 🌼💖
The Harkles live in the insane world of opposites — the truth is opposite of whatever they say.
In that context, maybe Oprah actually admitted this was her worst interview ever?
I smell all the burning bridges from here.
She acted as if she is so special and wonderful that the RF didn't phase her. She didn't even bother to learn how to curtsy until minutes before meeting the queen. And then wants us to believe she was able to make a deep curtsy.
She not only claimed to not have looked up Harry but she also didn't check out the monarchy, or how it is run, the protocols nothing! Who does that? With Google and the internet people look everything up
You could be right PP said that. But I'm going with it was either a joke, an exaggeration of what was said and meant OR was made up. Remember they wouldn't say who set up their "blind date" either. They wouldn't say who M's great female doctors were. They are lying I think when they purport to be protecting someone else.
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@Jessica,
The blue sparkly dress was worn to the Cirque du Soleil’s premiere of TOTEM at the Royal Albert Hall on January 16. The baby shower was in mid-February. Fast recovery? Or was Harry ok with his pregnant suicidal wife going off to NYC?
So true, and a spotlight needs to be shone on the Australia tour if nothing else.
The day Meghan claims to be on deaths door and forced to suck it up and go to the event was Cirque are Soleil on January 16th, 2019.
Only one month later Meghan and her inflatable belly are spotted beaming and hobnobbing at the baby shower in NYC on February 19th, 2019. Gayle, Amal, Serena, her college buddies, etc were present.
You mean to tell me, a legitimately suicidal pregnant woman had the energy and emotional strength to prance around NYC for two days with all her closest friends and confidants?! Taking in dinners and lunches and a lavish party?
What kind of support system is that?
This woman is full of shit.
Sorry. I can’t anymore.
Not to mention, if she felt so “trapped” in the UK, why not just stay in the US?
Such great comments from everyone, I will be reading and rereading as I fall asleep and more in the morning! 💕
Astonishing crap kept coming out of their mouths!
Suicidal? Really?? Do we know WHY was she suicidal??
Lie after lie after lie!
Kate made HER cry?!! What a pathological liar!
Cunning enough not to go after TQ (eying Hapless’s upcoming inheritance) but PC who stopped paying for his middle aged brat took a hit!
Any defense you (the survivor) has seems retaliatory when it's really just the truth.
Once again I'm going to say a thank you to Nutty and all the commentators on this blog for introducing me to NPD and frankly, saving my life. xo
She’s not the strong independent woman she claims to be. The ‘powers at be’ stop her, the courtiers stop her, Harry stops her, everyone stops her and lies to her and she’s left in her dungeon cage in the palace unaware of the time of day.
But she’s strong and independent right? Doesn’t know how to Google, doesn’t know how to learn, the Uk is misogynist and racist according to her experience (that was only relayed from Harry).
She doesn’t know how to fly on Amal’s private jet when everyone is against her in the U.K. And get her rich friends to hook her up with a room at The Mark for a month or two, until the ‘powers at be’ decide its time to get her help. Or just stay and move on, and out of love for her new husband divorce him so he can live his admitted happy life without her?
She’s so strong, so independent but just spewed the most needy garbage I’ve ever heard from a middle aged ‘feminist’ in my life.
Mother Knows Best, Herts, United Kingdom, about 2 hours ago
So the Palace lied to protect other Royals... but we're not told what these lies were or who they related to. But they weren't willing to tell the truth to protect Harry and Meghan... but we're not told what these truths were either. And someone made dodgy comments to Harry about Archie's colour... but they won't reveal who. And around the same time there were some completely separate conversations going on about titles and security, but we'll lump those in with the dodgy comments to give the impression that Archie didn't get titles or security because of his colour, and not because of his place in the hierarchy. And they weren't allowed to give tell-all interviews or whinge to the press. And when they said they wanted to go and live financially independent lives, Charles stopped giving them money and they had to live off Harry's multi-million inheritance from Diana instead. Sorry... what was the problem again?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/03/08/meghan-and-harry-share-adorable-new-video-of-son-archie-at-the-beach-14205019/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0uFi7hqpToO38wlZ72UnrgWTQMsYKjTsFOj3o7HN8BcPEJ2kvkbITsA1Q
Re your list item 8) Archie's drive safe.
I am sure that is all about the photo of the SMEGS out driving with Doria sans Archie, released in late February.
The Liars, of course, read all the comments about the lack of Archie in the car.
Right?? What independent self sufficient feminist does not know how to take care of herself and her well-being?? Was she shackled and living in a cage?? What exactly was SOOOOO unbearable?? Did she say??
She could have stayed home with her feet up while pregnant (no one would have blamed her and no one could have forbidden her from taking an early maternity leave!). Unlike millions of pregnant women, SHE had the privilege of having access to a high quality private care system AND did not need the paychecks to make ends meet! But then how could she hoped on a private jet for her over the top baby shower??
This is all so grotesque!
I haven’t watched it but we’re they challenged the Oprah woman???
Thank you JennS for creating our watch party and all the articles! I just know HotRob was here too, I felt his indignant heat!
Such great comments from everyone, I will be reading and rereading as I fall asleep and more in the morning! 💕
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sleep tight and when you wake up...
please see my first receipt to prove one of her lies in the post above.
Hot💋Rob would be so proud of me!🤣
I meant to add this link to my lie-receipt post. It's for the judgment striking out some of her claims in the lawsuit. It lists the MOS/DM articles she complained about including the avocado one.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/sussex-v-associated-judgment-010520-1-1.pdf
I feel sorry for the person in charge of briefing the Queen this morning...
The Princess in The Tower
I am sure The Liars came up with the princess locked away story after reading about a real Dubai princess (Princess Latifa) who was kidnapped by her father and has been held against her will.
Princess Latifa even said her passport was taken (in a video released in February) and that her family said she had bipolar disorder. She also said: "For me it's simple, it's like, am I free or am I not free? So ok, the world is going to know that I'm not free. Anybody who cares is going to know that I'm not free, and I'm not going to go along with their propaganda. That's just how I am."
How do rational, sane people fight against an insane person? The ground rules are not the same, the reality is not the same.
That is some narc testimony. Is this some church or something? Yeah that's just the way it is and love coming at you from all Nutties.
If they said that Archie was denied a role in the BRF due to his skin color, how do they explain the blond-haired, pale-skinned child with the pom pom hat that Harry was holding near the water? I don't think you can get any whiter than that child. Same with the Tutu visit child and the Duck/Rabbit book child.
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@crumpet,
You don't win with narcs. I'm doing research on body language and interrogation techniques, and it says to never get flustered by what narcs say to you. They want something to react to. Also, keep a level tone and leave your ego (we all have one) at the door. Make declarative statements that they have to answer, not a question that requires just a yes/no answer. Think of a bell curve. Start talking to them slowly about common things like the weather, then move into the matter at hand or the info that you want and end with an unimportant subject like the traffic on your way home.
Subjects don't remember the middle, just the beginning and the end of a conversation. Never try to win an argument with them. Build up their ego, and they'll talk. They love to talk about themselves. Don't try the tough approach. It doesn't work on them. It just riles them up. As soon as you get what you want from them, leave immediately. That signals to them that they are just not that important.
This comes from a former Soviet intelligence interrogator who would get info on submarine movements from US sailors on leave.
I've just started this research, so that's all I have for now. I hope this helps.
She and Harry makes no sense at all.
She claims that prior to the wedding, the Royal Family suggested she should continue acting and that she could make a lot of money that way. But prior to marriage, she was asked to shut down her blog and delete her personal Instagram account. She also quit her role in Suits.
To say “no comment” when asked by the media, did she think that maybe this was how the Royal Family was protecting her and Harry. They don’t comment on anything written on the tabloids, be it a true story or not. Airing your dirty laundry is not dignified and classy.
They threw Charles – who graciously walked her down the aisle when she could have done so herself as an independent woman – under the bus because they know Charles is a softie and will forgive Harry.
They were trying to differentiate the Queen and the men in grey suits/the institution. But it is the Queen who runs the institution. The Queen is the head of The Firm.
They were whining about being cut-off by Charles. But didn’t they want to be financially independent?
Naïve is one word that I will never use to describe Meghan.
How can a strong independent and well-educated woman who has a lot of connections not know how to get help when she was having suicidal tendencies? Wasn’t mental health an issue they tackled during their first panel interview as a fab 4 where she said she can’t wait to hit the ground running?
Did you see that one of the ads on the Oprah interview was Serena shilling for a deodorant company?
Right Megalo we believe you didn’t want such a lavish wedding and 500K£ wedding dresses and the celebrity guest list etc etc
WTF we were secretly married ?? Did the Archbishop of Canterbury inform the Queen then??
And revealing on television they are having a girl! SHAMELESS. What about privacy? They kept everything about Archie’s birth a secret but they can blab about having a girl to Oprah🤮
I feel sorry for this poor soul. She will destroy that innocent child. A malignant narcissist mother is the worst.
Ruh roh! William will not be happy!
One of them is so suicidal that she can't call to make an appointment with a psychiatrist because of the men in gray? Was she handcuffed and tied to a chair? What a strong woman and feminist!
The other thinks his wife is the reincarnation of his mother. There are no words.
Does anyone know CofE rules ? Could he marry them twice in a week ?!
Thanks Nutties for your fabulous
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I won’t be watching, don’t wish to risk
my TV!!
Pleased to hear Charles cut them off,
titles now please!!
I woke up to the news the news (BBC Radio 4) that she made rape allegations! Surely our watchful Nutties would have spotted that???
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Also, I don't believe for one moment that the AoC would have `married' them in the garden - Canon Law is pretty strict on that for us lower folk - I really can't imagine Welby falling in with that - a `Church' wedding in a garden? Oh FFS!
I may be wrong but I'm sure that, in England, both Civil and Church marriage venues have to be licenced and even marriage by special licence takes place in Church. Scottish law is different. I gather it just requires the appropriate Officiant - minister or Registrar, to do the honours.
If there was a legal marriage in their garden, it would have to a Civil one, requiring a licence and the Registrar.- show us the receipts!!! Who were witnesses?
We've had tight laws about clandestine marriages since 1753:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleet_Marriage#Marriage_Act_1753
The 1753 Act's also known as the Hardwicke Act.
Or did they jump the broom?
I did wonder if they had some sort of rehearsal in the garden but that doesn't work - it's done in the Church so there's nothing unexpected, like falling over the chancel steps. Who stand where and so on.
Which day was it supposed to have been on? What was Welby's engagement diary really like for that day? When did the General Synod begin in York?
Hahaha as if! Diana had access to several psychiatrists! Not that she was serious enough about her therapy to actually get better... So Megalo couldn’t get help?! Cry me a river!
I am curious about the Archbishop. The Queen is head of the COE so what happened there??
Rather waters down the sacrament of Marriage if you can do it once for real, once for show.
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An Itch to get Rich
Doesn’t give a damn who she hurts
With her lies, wild card blurts
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WTF???
I woke up to the news the news/Today programme (BBC Radio 4, 7am GMT) that she made rape allegations! Surely our watchful Nutties would have spotted that???
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Also, I don't believe for one moment that the AoC would have `married' them in the garden - Canon Law is pretty strict on that for us lower folk - I really can't imagine Welby falling in with that - a `Church' wedding in a garden? Oh FFS!
Show us the receipts! where's the Register - No Register? No marriage! No witnesses? No marriage!
It was possibly some sort of rehearsal but the point of that is is to do it in the actual place ie St George's, unless it was just a read through
I may be wrong but I'm sure that, in England, both Civil and Church marriage venues have to be licenced and even marriage by special licence takes place in Church. Scottish law is different. I gather it just requires the appropriate Officiant - minister or Registrar, to do the honours.
If there was a legal marriage in their garden, it would have to a Civil one, requiring a licence and the Registrar.- show us the receipts!!! Who were witnesses?
We've had tight laws about clandestine marriages since 1753:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleet_Marriage#Marriage_Act_1753
The 1753 Act's also known as the Hardwicke Act.
Or did they jump the broom?
I did wonder if they had some sort of rehearsal in the garden but that doesn't work - it's done in the Church so there's nothing unexpected, like falling over the chancel steps. Who stand where and so on.
Which day was it supposed to have been on? What was Welby's engagement diary really like for that day? When did the General Synod begin in York?
Thanks for putting up that video. I just cringe when I see their poor little dog. I gave MM the benefit of the doubt for a long time that she didn't break his legs, but now I do believe that she is capable of such an atrocity.
I can only hope that Archie and the new baby don't suffer the same fate. They need to be taken away from her because wimpy Harry isn't going to protect them. Cause the wrath of Megs? No way!
I think it's time to watch closely for cuts, bruises and abrasions on Harry and Archie. This has gone way too far. Somebody's going to get injured or worse.
Rather waters down the sacrament of Marriage if you can do it once for real and once for show. Is she so sure Welby will keep schtum. She must be.
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15 hrs ago = 6pm GMT - coincidence or what?
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But forget all of the non-Christians who are suffering. What a saint you are, Welby.
We both know that all kids play in the dirt. They love it. Poor Archie and the new baby will grow up without getting a bit dirty? I'm sad for them. They will have no joy in their lives.
I supposed it's because the Sanctuary's program uses a lot of language and concepts with which Christians would be familiar - not much help to anyone else. It may not even suit all Christians!
First of all, are you OK? You must be suffering from PTSD after reading this horrific account of such an oppressed young girl.
A few points:
- for people who want(ed) privacy, they're disclosing an awful lot of info, including the sex of the unborn baby (the surrogate must have had a scan)
- the claims of suicide (when she was pregnant, I think) echo Diana's attempts when she threw herself down the stairs
- she had no help? ’For many years, the Duchess [of Kent] worked as a Samaritans volunteer herself, answering calls from people in need of support at a difficult or overwhelming point in their lives. From 1971 until 1999, she was the charity's royal patron. She is now an ambassador for the Samaritans.'
The Prince of Wales, who is Samaritans' Royal Patron, has welcomed the Duchess' renewed involvement in the charity.
Don't tell me help wouldn't have been forthcoming. (For non UK Nutties) 'Samaritans is a registered charity aimed at providing emotional support to anyone in emotional distress, struggling to cope, or at risk of suicide throughout the United Kingdom and Ireland, often through their telephone helpline.'(Wikipedia)
I can't imagine anyone in the US would touch her with a barge pole, not only is she such an ungrateful whingebag and so ready to accuse everybody of misdeeds but so 'fragile' mentally that no one should work with her. Spotify, Netflix, take note.
Translation:
`Kate spoke sharply to me so I decided to turn on the tap. Did you see the video where I demonstrated this skill?'
It's what my female narc did to me when I checked her - I felt the tears were fake but couldn't think why at the time. I can now see it was because because they flowed without any of the other signs, such as swallowing hard, suggesting a lump in throat, no catch in the voice, like Megsie Baby when she demonstrated it.
She also claimed to have left out house in tears - not true. The tears had dried, she'd gone all hoity-toity over breakfast and continued her tongue-lashing even as I wished her a safe journey and she started her car.
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And how come M was able to swan off to NY twice, if they held her passport? (`heavily pregnant' with a disappearing bump for the shower & then abandoning her precious, oh-so-vulnerable Archie for the Open).
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Was `Archie on the beach' yet another hired actor?
By Clare Foges
The Times
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Archewell Foundation aspires to change the world “one act of compassion at a time”. The couple’s latest act of compassion towards family and nation is their interview with Oprah Winfrey, screened in Britain on Monday.
A trailer for the tell-all shows the Duchess referring to the royal family as “the Firm”, recalling the John Grisham novel of the same name, in which a young couple are pursued by a murderous mafia-led organisation. One imagines capo dei capi Queen Elizabeth chewing on a Cohiba and ordering that her errant grandson and his wife be dispatched to sleep with the fishes (reputationally at least) with an investigation into the duchess’s alleged bullying of staff.
As the movie quote goes: “Somewhere, inside, in the dark, the firm is listening.”
At this point Times readers may cry: “Who cares? If I want tittle tattle I’ll buy a celebrity rag!” But the saga of the Sussexes matters. It matters because the royal family plays an invaluable role in our nation’s image overseas. Two billion watched Prince William marry Catherine Middleton in 2011. Two billion! In the tiaras and fly-pasts, pomp and circumstance there is a magic that a million dull “inward investment” drives could never equal.
In Her Majesty the Queen we have a soft-power asset of incalculable value. As Sir John Major has said, “when people refer to the Queen almost anywhere in the world, they mean our Queen”. So when you come for our monarch or her “establishment”, you come for Britain’s reputation, too.
Though the Sussexes will always stress their fealty to Harry’s grandmother (their titles depend on it, after all), by suggesting that “the Firm” has been “perpetuating falsehoods”, they are attacking her life’s work. The Queen has spent decades preserving the mystique that is essential to monarchy’s power; in one two-hour interview they have lobbed a grenade through it.
It is not only the monarchy in the Sussexes’ sights; it seems the interview also covers the issue of race in Britain. Here we go again. For the past year those who see racism everywhere have pushed a juicy narrative: mixed-race woman is scorned by dusty, fusty palace and backwards nation that insists on English roses for its princes.
The part of the American psyche that insists on giving all Disney cartoon villains British accents will lap this up; it plays to the stereotype of England as a land of bigoted snobs - and damningly, the Sussexes have not defended the UK. Perhaps they really do feel that they were driven out by racist attitudes. But on what basis? The treatment of the duchess in the press?
Though Meghan has been given a rough ride, this - alas - is common for women in the public eye, not least royals. Fergie was dubbed the Duchess of Pork: was this gingerism? Princess Michael of Kent is routinely called Princess Pushy: is this anti-German xenophobia?
Was it the behaviour of Harry’s own family that smacked of racism? The touching spectacle of the Prince of Wales walking his future daughter-in-law down the aisle hardly suggests such froideur, nor the Queen’s generosity in lending the couple Frogmore Cottage. Was it the general response of the British public that was deemed unwelcoming? Surely not: on the day of the couple’s wedding 100,000 followers crowded the verges of Windsor to flag-wave; at every one of Meghan’s outings crowds pressed against the barricades to touch the Dior hem.
The truth is, it is not Meghan’s race or Harry’s union with a mixed-race woman that many in this country find insufferable but their evident self-regard and self-pity. In Britain it is a cardinal sin is to take yourself too seriously. We like our public figures low-key, self-deprecating, as humble as fame and fortune allow. Perhaps the Queen’s greatest PR master-stroke was the revelation that she serves her own cornflakes out of Tupperware containers.
It does not do to get too grand in this country, even if you are a duke or duchess. Yet whether they are demanding privacy while courting publicity, or enjoying the rewards of royal titles while shunning the responsibilities, or blathering about public service while ditching the boring old walkabouts in Rotherham, the behaviour of Harry and Meghan smacks of self-importance.
No matter the privilege of their lives, the couple seem determined not only to feel sorry for themselves but to air their grievances regularly. Yes, I know that heartache and misery transcend fame and fortune. All the wealth in the world is no insulation against suffering. But still, if you live a life that is unimaginably privileged to most, it is polite and emotionally intelligent to be circumspect about your own problems. To hear the duchess complain to Oprah that “there’s a lot that’s been lost” is tin-eared during a pandemic, when millions have lost livelihoods, lives and loved ones.
Such solipsism feels very much of our time; an age when narcissism is acceptable and viewing oneself as a victim is in vogue. Indeed, the split of public opinion on the Sussexes reveals a cultural schism in our country. In one camp are those who find it alien to endlessly share details of themselves, whose motto is “mustn’t grumble”. In the other camp are those who share their innermost thoughts daily on Twitter, whose mantra is “let me tell you my truth”.
For one side the word “duty” is laden with meaning; to the other it sounds archaic and suffocating. Accordingly, one part of the country thinks it appalling that they ditched royal life when it ceased to suit them; others think it marvellous that they broke free of the gilded cage to sink their toes in the Malibu sand.
We all might have felt more sympathy with the Sussexes if their decision to break from royal constraints had been followed by a period of genuine privacy, humility and respect for the institution they had left. But to enjoy the perks of association with the monarchy while trashing it - and the nation - is galling.
In a game of chess, a queen sacrifice is made in order to gain a more favourable tactical position. The Oprah interview seems like the Sussexes’ own queen sacrifice: a strategic decision to burn bridges with the British in order to build them with the Americans. Well, it’s the Queen’s move now, and there’s only one thing for it. Your Majesty: remove their titles.
The Times
Good point about the language and concepts. I just wish he would have reached out more.
No, Harry, my lad, you are trapped now and have been since you met her and you can't escape but you can't see it, not yet. She's brainwashed you from the word go, like a cult member. You need deprogramming but this herculean task might be harder than deprogramming jihadists.
So I’m just going to toss this one out here.
In last night’s interview with Oprah, Meghan claimed to have felt suicidal. At the time of this she was pregnant with Archie.
Did anyone notice a similarity between Meghan’s claims to Oprah to what happened with another pregnant woman? This other woman threw herself down a staircase in the early 80s. And she just happened to be a royal too. It was eventually widely reported and discussed when it came to light years later.
Yes, I believe Meghan is SO screwed up that she would create an eerily parallel drama of Diana throwing herself down the staircase to feed to Harry. It helped Meghan build her case of victimization by the RF and by the palace to:
A) allow Harry to “rescue” her from the evil monarchy, and B) justify her case to Harry that it was absolutely necessary for them leave the UK as soon as possible.
Aside from Meghan’s creepy obsession with Diana and using her death to manipulate Harry, I believe there is another more recent case of Meghan appropriating and inserting herself into another big news story and thus associating herself with a famous woman and her famous husband while simultaneously generating news coverage for herself.
I think that Meghan did not have a miscarriage last summer. My guess is Meghan had an IVF procedure that failed, which is not regarded as a miscarriage.
But when Chrissy Teigen published incredibly personal and dramatic hospital photographs from when she miscarried at about 5 months, the attention and reaction Teigen was received tremendously sympathetic. Teigen and her husband were lauded for going public with the photos in late October 2020.
After seeing the strongly positive response and sympathy for Teigen, I think Meghan turned a failed IVF procedure into a miscarriage and voila! She suddenly had a piece in the editorial section of the New York Times a month later, dramatically detailing how she hummed a lullaby as she fell to the floor cradling Archie. And yes, Meghan too gained national attention was lauded for it by numerous groups and personalities, which besides casting Meghan as a sympathetic figure, also provided her with a dose of high-grade narcissistic fuel.
These two incidents are examples of what I believe are extreme behaviors, but Meghan has a track record of this type of behavior. We have watched her jump on the latest bandwagons to hit the public eye as she inserts herself into and appropriates a cause, social issue, an election, or even just to wander around a cemetery with her husband at her side with the goal of garnering attention and narcissistic fuel for herself.
Fantastic article! It encompasses everything we're thinking.
I thought she looked happy at first but then began to see more in her expression. Her angelic look became that of an avenging angel, then of a Nike - a triumphant Winged Victory.
Markle puts me in mind of the story of the Maiden in the Tower save that, unlike that captive maiden, Markle barged her way into the tower and then claimed to be imprisoned and the handsome Prince that is supposed to have stormed the tower and saved her was it turns out imprisoned in the tower all along. For some reason that version of the story has never been a staple of fairy tales.
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By Clare Foges
The Times
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Archewell Foundation aspires to change the world “one act of compassion at a time”. The couple’s latest act of compassion towards family and nation is their interview with Oprah Winfrey, screened in Britain on Monday.
@ Longview:
Thank you for publishing this article, and to JennS and everyone for copying and posting the articles from The Times and other paywall publications.
This is one of best leads in a news story I’ve read in years!
"She wouldn't share any details about where Archie was to be born, when he was born or who the attending doctors were (all relevant for a child in the royal succession) yet now she's free to do her own merchandising she's doing a reveal on Oprah. Classy."
Did anyone notice a similarity between Meghan’s claims to Oprah to what happened with another pregnant woman?
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Exactly what I said upthread, I made the same comparison. Does Megalo think we're stupid?
I once heard the other great S.African churchman of anti-apartheid times, Gonville ffrench-Beytagh, on `Any Questions' BBC radio decades ago, perhaps in the 1970s. He was talking about modern church architecture which left `no dark places for a man to weep'. He then related how a friend had killed himself. Gff-B never got over it, such was his unresolved guilt and grief about not being able to `reach' him in his misery. Such impacts spread out from suicide to affect other people like ripples in a pond.
A medical student friend once told me that those who jump in front of Tube trains from a crowded platform seek, at a stroke, to traumatise as many people as possible. Suicide is the ultimate act of vengeance and selfishness, I believe.
Maneki, “harder than de programming jihadists”😂
As the Queen makes her move on the board
No Cheque, Mate
Yes I see what you mean but does Megalo know that D was pregnant with W and not H the nameless?? Her obsession with D is so creepy and his relationship with his late mother’s memory is disturbing. Vomit inducing for Will no doubt.
Hams Leary Wails - The Quivering Jip
Did *Ursula sleep well last night
After dumping her buckets of shite
No doubt she’ll be up with the sparrows
Plotting once more
Another score to the core
Busy crafting her poisoned arrows
*Ursula - the Sea Witch in the Little Mermaid
The Oprah interview seems like the Sussexes’ own queen sacrifice: a strategic decision to burn bridges with the British in order to build them with the Americans. Well, it’s the Queen’s move now, and there’s only one thing for it. Your Majesty: remove their titles.
@Longview: From the reactions of my American friends and family in a wide age range, most who do not follow the Harkles closely, they thought Harry and Meghan were a pair of selfish, petulant arrogant brats. Some even mentioned The Queen, and how badly they feel for her being stuck with these two and all their antics and drama in her mid-90s with her husband in the hospital.
Many times, the arrogance of narcissism leads to the narc’s own downfall. The Sussexes may very well experience this fate in America.
Love 'No cheque, mate' 🤣. We need a laugh!
Let's hope there's a backlash against Harry and Harridan.
I've been there too and felt exactly the same way. I've resisted it over and over again for that reason (Background -I have been in constant pain for nearly 40 years after a bad back injury at university. I spent the first 5 years in one room on total bed rest, on pethedine, morphine and fentanyl later. Used to think blackbirds were dive bombing my bed I was so out of it! I then did Open University, from my bed to begin with, and got a First. One of the reasons Meghan's failure to work to earn her place in royal life infuriates me). Now to see Meghan using suicide as just one of the cards to be played ...
Or did she glide right by that question?
I liked the point above (given us by Longview) as to us British not caring for those who take themselves too seriously and the brilliant (and at no cost) piece of P.R. when it was revealed how the Queen stores her cornflakes. For me in these Covid times the photo of Her Majesty using a standard 1970's grey B.T. telephone - I thought you could only rent them - was more of the same cheap and doubtless unintentional but effective P.R.. Nothing flashy or nouveau Riche about her: she is the real deal - as I believe also is The Duchess of Cornwall (so good when done by Tracy Ullman) and The Duchess of Cambridge (pure home-counties). This of course is one of the great differences as between Britain and America: just making a billion or becoming Deputy P.M. does not in England as two-jags Prescott ruminated upon make you any more than you ever were. A friend of mine has a client who is a member of the Aristocracy (ancestral - not life). My friend says that despite the slight eccentricity - the shabby clothing and being a hen-pecked husband - one would never realise that his client was an aristo. That is how we like it.
Harry and MeAgain want this to be the last word as they never expected BP to start speaking out and making moves.
They’re scared!
@jessica:
Meghan is scared The Queen will take her title, which is the only reason she married Harry or gave him the time of day in the first place.
Harry is scared The Queen will take the titles because no title means no Meghan. She will bolt faster than the horses coming out of the starting gate at the Kentucky Derby.
Timing is everything and -as usual- their timing couldn’t be worse. Besides from the lunatic sugars, any decent person would see this for what it is: airing your family’s dirty laundry while the whole world is going through the hardships of a pandemic. Middle aged brats whining because daddy stopped giving us money and poor us are living off the millions mommy dearest left for me. Well, maybe buying a mansion was not necessary for a small family? A supposedly strong independent woman victimizing herself while living in a palace and now a mansion. If Diana got help for her mental issues decades ago, only a few gullible people would believe that this creature was denied help. Come on! This is such a BIG lie. A flying blue pig would be more credible!
As for okra, she believes she scored something big and she did make a lot of money for sure BUT she came across as a weak and sycophantic interviewer that it will damage what’s left of her reputation. Zero journalistic skills and zero objectivity. Her racism agenda is so obvious it has become truly pathetic, just like woke and joke.
@HappyDays
Yes I see what you mean but does Megalo know that D was pregnant with W and not H the nameless?? Her obsession with D is so creepy and his relationship with his late mother’s memory is disturbing. Vomit inducing for Will no doubt.
@Flore: Meghan might know that Diana was pregnant with William, but for Meghan the details likely never get in her way, especially when she has already been feeding off the corpse of her husband’s dead mother for nearly five years.
I think they are scared of being deprived of Hapless’s inheritance from granny. He should be disinherited. Maybe the witch will let go then.
@HappyDays
Did anyone notice a similarity between Meghan’s claims to Oprah to what happened with another pregnant woman?
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Exactly what I said upthread, I made the same comparison. Does Megalo think we're stupid?
@Maneki Neko: Apologies for missing your similar comment. I will read it. Great minds think alike!
As a narcissist Megalo always thinks she’s the smartest person in the room, so yes, Megalo thinks we’re stupid, The Queen is stupid, Charles is stupid (actually Meghan might be right on Chuck’s intellgence), William and Kate are stupid, the press are stupid, the citizens of the UK and The Commonwealth are stupid, all of America is stupid, and Harry is stupid. But she is right about Harry. He’s as dumb as a box of rocks.
@Joceyln'sBellini, You could have come to physical harm from your erstwhile cleaning woman. She sounds potentially dangerous. I'm glad you managed to show her the door.
@Longview, thanks for posting the article.
@JennS, Thanks for all your work. You must be exhausted.
@AnT, You could be on to something. This may be a way to influence the judge in awarding damages. Who knows what else she's going to claim.
Fellow Nutties, I'm as stunned as all of you are at the utter brazenness of the Harkle fake pity party. I'm so sorry Hairy's elderly relatives have to be put through this.
Were you able to meet other students? The London Region Arts Club was first rate, well worth going the 70 miles to London for. Funny how we used to wait outside exam rooms, wondering aloud why we put ourselves through it. It happened every time for me.
I know now why I've `collected' 3 first degrees, in totally different subjects, 2 by distance learning (incl.OU) - it's because I could never be good enough for my mother. When I told her, with great joy, that I'd got a Distinction for A101, her response was `Huh! Well you didn't do very well last time.' I shared no more OU news with her.
Are you feeling any better now? I do hope so. It must have taken very great fortitude to keep going - I salute you. To be Churchillian - KBO!
@Jessica @HappyDays
I think they are scared of being deprived of Hapless’s inheritance from granny. He should be disinherited. Maybe the witch will let go then.
@ Flore: You’re right in that Granny might cut Harry off, and he’d deserve it. Can you imagine the family sitting around a large table for the reading of ERII’s will, then when it gets to what she has bequeathed to Harry, it’s an 8 x 10 inch photo of herself similar to the ones we see sitting on her desk and in the background at her Christmas message — but she’s giving Harry the finger.
And that’s all Harry gets from Granny!
😂😂😂 I would pay to see that photo!
No need to apologise, I'm sure it must have crossed many people's minds. She's digging herself into an ever bigger hole, at this rate she'll reach Australia soon (any sightings, Magatha?)
Kate making Rache cry? That story will never leave Rache unscathed. Sounds like an incomplete story about a real-life Bridezilla.
My jaw dropped about the Sussexes claiming to be suicidal. My experiences around it were much different. I would hate it if it was them manufacturing a "get-out-free" card to shield themselves from the eventual probing of their bad behavior and lies. After this interview, there will definitely be checking up on the Sussex stories. They've opened a can of worms and they won't be able to close it back up. I don't know how much critical coverage there will be but it will be there. They cannot stop or control it anymore.
Their is publicly available documentation to disprove:
- Archie's inheritance of titles and styles
- Security
- Rache's knowledge about the BRF & Prince Harry
The last one: Rache posted on Instagram a stack of biographies she was reading and it included a book about Diana. She wrote about W&C's wedding on the TIG. Wills & Catherine visited Hollywood, A-listers and all, and you could not escape coverage of it. All our MSM has covered Prince William and Prince Harry extensively for decades at this point. After W&C's wedding, you could not escape coverage in any Pop Culture outlet. What about the "Boom" video with HMTQ, Prince Harry, and the Obamas for Sentebale?
Does Rache really want us to believe she is an actress who doesn't even read news or Hollywood news? No wonder she never made it! She couldn't even manage the basic minimum for her job. Every job I know requires you be up-to-date on industry news. The best performers are on top of trends but also gossip/rumors.
Back on topic, I'm feeling so sad this morning at the damage done to the BRF in the eyes of people who won't bother to check the truth and I'm as angry with Oprah as with Meghan, for allowing it all to go unchallenged. Alexa would have done a better job! How are they to be effectively countered? Refuting her line by line would be descending to her level and abandoning tried-and-trusted protocol, yet allowing it to stand seems too risky, given the extent of her accusations. Prince William must be climbing the walls today.
Remember 9/11? Of course you do! I was just thinking that before 9/11 it was hard to imagine such an awful and cowardly act. What kind of people would do such a thing? We were dealing with an enemy that wasn’t playing by any type of rules. An enemy that was willing to self-destruct to cause pain and suffering to those around them.
I hope the aids from the Palace read this blog. I hope they understand that they are dealing with something way beyond anything they’ve had to deal with before. And I hope they act accordingly.
Harry and Meghan are an emotional Taliban.
Where can I find help for the stress these two royals are causing me? I threw my hot coffee at my television this morning. Am I privileged because I am a pleb and can phone a hotline all by myself?
Now a serious question: What reputable paper will list each of these hypocrisies and and back each one with specifics? I think our societal problems today are due in large part to lack of accountability. Rarely are there specifics to back allegations anymore (and this unfortunately includes the bullying allegations against Meg). Give us the receipts.
If it's in England, in an Anglican church, licensed by the Bishop for marriages, the answer is a resounding `Yes!' That's because before the Reformation, there was no `Civil Service' nor uniform local government. Throughout England, the parish priest was in effect a civil servant - he, and now she, act in their State role when marrying a couple. (`Clerk in Holy Orders' was the origin of `clerk' in other context. I read somewhere that the university Long Vac goes back to plague times - everyone went home in the summer in case plague struck Oxford or Cambridge, causing the eventual collapse of both the civil service and the church).
Historically, the Jews and Quakers were the only groups outside this - their marriages were recognised by the State quite early on.
(for Quaker weddings see https://www.quaker.org.uk/blog/what-to-expect-from-a-quaker-wedding
In other churches or chapels, a civil Registrar has to be present as well.
Perhaps they assumed that saying their own vows in front of J Cantuar constituted a legal marriage - it doesn't. H could have escaped. Again, she didn't look at what the law says. It isn't what she thinks it ought to be. Unfortunately, it looks as if the grand do might have been legal after all, by usage.
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H has revealed himself as having what today we euphemistically call `Learning Difficulties', the older terms were far more brutal.
What did he mean by that? Did MM convince him in Canada the BRF would give in and allow them to be part time royals with all the perks and little responsiblity/time in the UK?
What a truly horrific experience. I can empathize, having suffered from severe depression and very dark thoughts. Well done for coming out of it stronger, something Meg could learn to do. Hugs X
Was this M's wishful thinking or did it depend on them keeping their side of the arrangement?
Maybe even Megalo was hoping to send Hapless back on his own to perform his duties while she soaked in Montecito’s sun with her celebrity pals. I am sure a few breaks per year from her dear husband would have been welcomed...
I think she shot her wad of memorable revelations and now has nothing to offer any media enterprise by way of interesting memoirs. Her life story is dead now.
I bet Harry's two ex's thank continue to thank their lucky stars they didn't marry such an ineffectual lump of a man. He is less than worthless as Meghan essentially said without using words that he couldn't/wouldn't 'protect her' or pay for security for their son.
In a perverse way, the BRF are probably so glad the Harkles left as soon as they did; can you imagine if the snakes continued to live with the family and stayed working for the Firm, what more salacious stories they would manufacture over time. Maybe the BRF should send them flowers and a farewell gift...like a defamation lawsuit (oh wait, aggrieved Meghan didn't name names or identifying specifics just like what common liars do!)
@Princess Mrs. B
I find Camilla very down to earth,
great sense of humour, not snobbish at all.
When I first saw that Clinton interview and heard that emphasis in that denial, I immediately said `He's lying!'
I think it was because he seemed to be saying `I was not the active partner - she had sex with me'
Doubtless other Nutties saw it the same way.
Oh, and Huff Post has answered the Cirque du Soleil point - with photo of her looking weepy, and `I'd just told my husband I didn't want to live any more'.
So he ignored her and didn't do anything to get her help?
Has Someone been watching us? Huffington Post /Yahoo-
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/meghan-markle-oprah-winfrey-cirque-du-soleil-picture-suicide-080603482.html
Take care what you say, Folks, we don't want to give them any more ideas.
Maneki, Ava, & WildBoar
Thank you for sharing your pain,
and your strength and positivity X
What if Kate said something which was protective of Charlotte and it was not placating M? Remember one of M's claims is being able to cry on cue.
If they really did have a ceremony in the back yard - would it have been legal without witnesses? and not signing a book some where?
And about keeping suicidal to herself - unable to tell anyone or reach out for any help?
Wait a minute. She had her hand picked doctors and not the ones HM uses. She missed an opportunity to claim that she couldn't tell her doctors how she really felt in the same way Diana didn't trust the protection from the Palace.
Just wait for the show in the UK. I'm thinking pitch forks in one hand and a cell phone open/on in the other.
I am personally invested in Meghan getting comeuppance because so many people in my life, who do so much wrong, seem to get away scot-free.
@Princess Mrs. B
I’ve not heard that before.
I can’t imagine her interfering with
William and his choice of girlfriend,
given her own circumstances.
She wasn’t even married to Charles
when W&K started dating.
He says BBC journalist Callum May has pointed out that Meg lied when she said sge was married to Harry three dats before the wedding in a backyard. And her saying so created a scandal for Welby, the Archbishop who she says performed the ceremony.
May points out it is not legal for the C of E (1) to marry anyone outdoors, or (2) without a witness.
There are no receipts! Why? It seems, on the whole, the public is extremely gullible, lazy and content to swallow what is being spoon fed. There appears to be no critical thinking whatsoever.
And that’s for the world in general.
Now for these disgusting, lying, sinister people: they continue to carry on, full speed ahead without intervention. There seem to be no consequences for them , as far as most people are concerned. I cannot fathom why their stories aren’t torn apart. They’re totally unsubstantiated and yet...
While those that can be proven, are not discussed.
All the points made here on this blog should be made by the press.
No wonder people feel like giving up. It’s crazy making to survive such a hypocritical world.
Yes I see what you mean but does Megalo know that D was pregnant with W and not H the nameless??
Maybe this was a message to William - the one driving the response that: If I feel under threat, I could feel suicidal again so don't mess with me? especially as a pregnant woman (like your mother) with a baby girl.
In related news, “Europe’s tallest active volcano has been spewing lava for three weeks”
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By the way, anyone who still doesn’t think this is more than just a simple boy meets girl love story,
and anyone who thinks Megs has no political anti-Monarchy financial backers,
should pay close attention the next few weeks.
All I can say to the BRF and especially the Queen: I am so, so sorry.
To Oprah and the Markles, may you always have saggy pants and sand in your bed.
“Meghan Markle my selfless friend lives her life — and leads by example — with empathy and compassion / She teaches me every day what it means to be truly noble”.....
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Harry can never be let off a leash because he can not keep Flower's stories straight. I imagine that is all they do at home. Practice their fictional narrative.
Only Kate is really vilified by name. That gives Flower away. That one specific tells you why Flower was unhappy; Kate. Kate's very existence. William will be boiling mad (as will Carol, et al). Retribution will come, like "a melting ice cube." That is my husband's take, a melting ice cube is how the BRF will do this.
I like PC much more now for cutting off the nit-wit. Long live Prince Charles!
Suicidal in my 5th month, galavanting and prancing around NYC with Marcus and friends in my 6th month? Having received no help from The Palace? I have known someone with an ~approximate 40 year history of recalcitrant MDD owing to sexual abuse as a young teenager. NE Boarding School, 1970s, lots of victims, documented and provable. I know what these things look like. She is a complete liar. Also, "it would be better for everyone else if I died." Sociopathic. Full on. The Palace would not let me seek treatment? What sort of nonsense is that? Call a cab and go to the doctor.
Archie denied a title because of color? Hardly. Read the 1917 Law, bitch. Can you read? You "whip smart" SH?
Harry said he would "go home after work" or "drive home after work" to comfort poor Flower. When was this? The 5th month, because she was traveling during her 6th/7th month? Where was home? FC was not yet ready? Where were they living?
Harry was instructed by Flower to say she "birthed" Archie as opposed to saying something like "after Archie was born." That was a tell.
There are approximately 350M of us spread over 3.8M square miles. The UK has approximately 88M spread over 94,000 square miles.
A "hit show" making money for a studio might have a handful of millions of weekly viewers. The Big Bang, arguably the most successful weekly show in the past couple of decades crested at 18M viewers for its Grand Finale. That is it.
Flower and the nit wit and the Oprah interview is probably relevant to less than 10M people. Yes, The wack jobs on The View will talk about it, all week, and then something else will outrage them. And the usual celebs will tweet something inane about the two.
Assume roughly 340M Americans know nothing about this and do not care and would not care about a former Prince living in Montecito with his puff adder wife.
Puff Adder !!!!!!! 🤣
Large Fire reported in the vicinity of Los Angeles. According to reports, a person said they saw Harry burning the last of his Bridges.
Yes, my adrenaline was in high gear when I was dealing with the crazy cleaning lady. She definitely could have hurt me. I think that's why I was able to grab her by the shirt and throw her out the door.
I've never seen anything like it. She grabbed a door handle with both hands, and fell on the floor, with her body dramatically draped her body to the floor in this long, weird pose while screaming at the top of her lungs. I was really frightened.
Notice on the Oprah interview, that MM's makeup ended at the middle of her chest and her real skin tone below that is a much lighter color. She did her own makeup for this. No makeup artist would do that.
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As far as H/M and the Royals go it is such a flood of acrimony. Letting it hang out. Or 50% of it.