Let's continue the discussion.
There just hasn't been a lot from really either of them together or individually lately, has there? But why? Have they blown all their bridges, connections and are down to toss the proverbial kitchen sink for attention? I don't know. We've heard that moving vans showed up at the house. And nothing more like pictures from a neighbor happy to see the back of them. We've heard they bought a house on Portugal. But the wording was kind of funny. Multiple sources of the same thing - yes but that isn't a guarantee of proof as it could all be from the same source. It was more along the lines of "We've been told that...". It came off as a we really don't know if we believe this to be true or not so we are putting it out there but hedging our bets. Or at least it did to me. And nothing more like exactly when, where or for how much or when they might visit it again. Or pictures of the awesome inside. Or outside. Or requisite ...
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He was ashamed/afraid to get her help
because the counsellors would have seen
first hand what a psychotic, sociopathic Narc
she is!
- They were both in a dark place
- Ashamed to admit that MM needed help
- Family blew off his pain. Back to race.
- Lost opportunities to deal with race
- Members of Parliament letter
- Family has invisible contract with tabloids. If you wine and dine them= better press
- Institution totally enmeshed with tabloids. Holiday parties at palace for media.
- Says family welcoming until Australia tour when A announced
- Stresses how effortlessly MM connected with people.
- Great asset for Commonwealth ( MM)
- Security again. They are going to remove it. MM wries letters begging for security for Haz
Now he sees he was trapped.
And his brother is trapped.
And his dad is trapped.
And he feels bad for them.
ROFLMAO.
H — family was all supportive until Australian tour “then it all changed”....it brought back memories
O are you saying there were hints of jealousy.
H to see how effortless for M to come I and connect on tour to people ....he thinks she did amazing
O why wouldnt family like that He doesn’t answer they move on......
Yeah let’s skip the teapot throwing and cussing at the guy wife, Oprah, and the market and upset staff.....
O is intent on royal,smear
O says M word is you calculated Megxit and you planned Megxit and planned your brand
M— oh my feigned surprise oh can you imagine. Skips to no one told her anything any protocol or even taught her the brit national anthem
She says No helped her or taught her anything in Palace
H was trapped to he says, I was trapped didn’t know I was trapped then I met meg
Oh my god oh my god
O you seemed enjoying life before Meg? We saw photos happy Harry
H oh just the job have to smile
H my mom would be angry and sad but want us to be happy
Back to Archie skin tone after ads
This guy is the dumbest man on Esrth.
Ph / MM - her suicidual thoughts - Iwanted to be there for her. That is not a conversatio we could have. (Huh). It is very trapping. I was ashamed that MM needed help. The family - this is how it is.
PH - metnions the race element. This was also his trigger. Not going to dend well - Oprah pushes and he dogdes the answer. Mentions the 70 MPs who signed letter, but family did not support. Family is scared of the tabliods. what goes on behind clsed doors. They are controlled by fear.
MM mentions racism with the tabloids. she mentions death threats.
was MM well received in the beginning - YES. It changed afater the Australia tour and she was PG.
Oprah mentions "the Crown" - was there jealosuy? Ph - I wish we could elarn from the past. Oprah does not understand?
PH - she was welcomed by the family and the world - she was a great asset.
We jump to Canada and protection. and the half in half out. harry - I knew thought I would loose my security. MM - please keep my husband safe.
I am confused.
Opran - are youMM the one who is responsible for MEgxit? MM is incredulous. She gave up everyting for her husband. Mm menitons no guidance from the Family as to how to be royal. PH nods in agreeent.
Oprah - PH - would you have left if not for MM - NO. but then he geos on how he was trapped.
Oprah - please explain how you were trapped. PH - my father and brother is trapped - have some compassion for them. PH - doing what is expeected no matter what is going on in your personal life. PH is NOT answering the questions. What would Diana think - she would be angry.
teaser - archie's skin color convo.
How mad do you think the RF is going to be tomorrow?
Have you noted the endless number of commercials??🤣🤣🤣
Good thing we didn't agree to drink a shot every time the word racism was mentioned.
Now they are insinuating that MM was so good at her job in Australia it caused problems with the palace🤮
And they are whining about losing security without explaining that taxpayers foot the bill in exchange for a working royal. What was wrong with paying for it yourself?
MM is lying about not being trained on the royal protocol. Samantha Cohen was charged with this task.
Palace and people not going to be happy as she clearly says they did not offer any help or guidance on ow to be royal but it was to others.
i'm typing fast excuse all errors.
another group of ads. Next up is "what color is Archie?" We know what they'll say.
Yeah, others were jealous of how well M was able to do her first tour ("effortless")
and then turns around to say that they weren't offering help/guidance for how to be "royal".
I feel bad for HM to wake up and hear this all over a meal.
-H says he was trapped but didnt know it until MM came into his life
-Says whole family is trapped
H says his mother would be angry about stepping down but ultimately wanted his happiness
Oprah very careful to say "stepped back"
How does one redress the bogus racist accusations like this? Seriously? How does the palace address such lies? I'd be demanding a lot of Show Me proof.
I'm thinking as far as not giving Archie a title is because they used a surrogate and Brit. law says child has to be "of the body."
she sounds absolutely unable to fend for herself, do any research on the family. she blames them for her not doing her homework. some "whip smart" woman there, huh.
Did you notice she again did not give a specific date or month when their daughter is due? When asked she said "Summer."
@JennS
@NMM
I cannot even believe this utter train wreck. Luckily it would be impossible for MM to look like a bigger liar or fake. Her fakery is painful. Well everyone in the U.K. has better stock up on tomatoes tomorrow to throw.
i agree. this is even a worse trainwreck than the SA interview.
Then in front of Harry claims she didn’t care about security for herself or Archie, only Harry.
I find that hard to believe
Oh. pic shown of archie
BUT IT'S THE OLD ONE WHEN HE MEETS THE QUEEN
They can' show a NEW pic??????????
Didn't know anything about the RF, but had photos and collection of books about RF. Too lazy to Google the person you are marrying? Garbage! Americans are going to eat this up because they are too lazy to google or fact check anything.
Archie's skin tone. Harry said he will never share who said it.
They are in big trouble.
Charlotte and Louis weren't even entitled until TQ made it so.
PH - we did not have a plan.
Oprah - the family cut you off. PH - I have what my mom left me.
He mentions diana on her own - can't imagine.
PH says he has spoekn more to Q this year than in past.
PC? takin calls, PH is let down, but he will always love him.
PH - I have tried to educate them.
Oprah mentions race - Archie's skin tone, That conversation. PH will not shasre that convo with his family.Oprah - but that was the beginning.
Oprah - so if you had the support, you would still be ther.
PH - we did everything we could, MM we protected them
PH - never our intention (regarding the $1M deals). they talks the streamers, etc. PH - I need to pay for security.
MM mentions ctory telling - about them??
teaser - any regrets?
They must be the luckiest couple on the planet. Just falling into bliss and all.
Give me a break.
Utter rubbish! The Royal Family helped Katherine of Kent decades ago. She was hospitalized for depression.
Someone needs to tell Little Miss Liar to learn some history before trying out ridiculous lies.
Archwell as means of speaking through a truthful lens, and to give voice to people who are underrepresented.
the Harkles should just just declare themselves saints now. nothing is by their own doing. Everybody was against them.
what has happened regarding the deals does not jive with Sussexroyal and the merchadizng that was stopped. That has not been covered at all.
- Didnt have a plan
- Charles cut them off financially first quarter 2020.
Huge bills for security
- Very long pause relationship PC
H is disappointed
- Wont share discussion about As skin tone
- Family suggested MM keep acting at first because they didnt want to support her
- Very vague on relationship William
My family cut them off financially in first quarter. So had to do Netflix to support family and “have all this”
H thinks Diana foresaw this and left him money to help with this moment
H is let down by his dad.....Archie’s his grandson! But a lot has happened but h will try to make it heal relationship
So she has cut him off from his father too... He slides away from O asking about William.....
Guys he is as dumb as we thought and totally led by the nose by her.....
He is a whiny middle aged man that dad cut him off and no one help them
M insists they exited w sooo much respect....
h says the millions were never the intention
M wild to insist they never thought of money and millions they never even had a plan! Money what? Money millions just happened!
—- she thinks no one knows about her million trademarks?!! Oh my goddddddddd.
Archewell babble from suddenly revved up hard sellMegs with her every one has a story blah blah
H seriously is lost forever with this spider. UK, H is gone, he has no idea how dumb he sounds admitting she is his puppet master and he clearly has no idea of the set up she had with whoever before they left
They basically sounds like they are complaining about NOT having unlimited funding, while doing whatever they want. Please sign them up for some adulting classes.
Margaret's messes, Andrew, Diana of course, Fergie, so many more. The queen will be fine. Charles and William? Fine too, but not for awhile. BP will close ranks tighter than ever before. I don't blame them after this.
Wouldn't it be amazing if the queen let Oprah interview her as a rebuttal? Now THAT would be something.
The problem with the idea is that at some point, you realize that family or friends are not always going to be giving you exactly what you feel you should/need or want them to. That is reality of the human existence.
She has got Harry so completely hooked on her bs that he will never recover. Didn't know he was trapped til she pointed it out, dear God.
Ms. Whip Smart little orphan Annie there...with the college degree, can't Google it?
Didn't H know it? Why didn't he teach her?
So we said if no archie was shown and an old photo was used we would be very suspicious
And that is what happened
AND
Harry says how happy he is in CA mentions the house the dogs but I did not hear him mention ARCHIE
We see archie's chicken inn but NO ARCHIE
Now Harry says the rf are removing everything - well that's not true they still have the sussex titles/ line in succession
NOTHING they said makes a bit of sense and I also think they crossed the line with this interview.
we got a very brief b&w glimpse of Archie on the beach
I hope the BP lawyers are ready to fire
William for sure will never speak to Archie again
Mr AnT —- I would never put someone like her M on the stand— the juries would see thru her in five seconds
H says M safely delivered Archie......he is still deluded or protecting her lies
One of them must drive like a lunatic if their toddler feels the need to caution them.
If you only knew, you stupid sod.
Yes — depressing fake celebs
- Says " hydrate" favorite word
- Hs is "so proud of us"
We did what we had to
- H has no regrets
- MM regrets trusting palace to protect her. Deliberately mislead
- Greater than a fairy tale today. Thriving, blah, blah
- Harry behind move. Saved us all.
No questions re bullying
Harry had 3(?) calls with the Queen and 1 with Charles who wanted him to write everything down. Then Charles taking his calls. (I’m under the impression that the Queen and the family would have been thrilled if Diana had gotten treatment, so why woukdn’t they want to help Meghan.)
Not in America, she has her voice back.
Harry: Ashamed to admit the problem to other family members. No one to turn to. Close friends helped. Family: this is just how it is.
Harry: No public support by family. 50 women in Parliament called tabloids out, but the family never did
Family afraid of the press (my words). Symbiotic relationship between papers and the RF. Hurts Harry that family never acknowledged the racism.
Harry not happy before he met Meghan. Felt trapped. How would Diana feel? Unhappy and mad. Would want them to be happy.
Grandmother always been very supportive. I think he said his father was, also, but my husband interrupted, so mot sure.
Family cut them off financially in 1st Q 2020. Money Diana left him was what they fell back on. Good relationship with his grandmother. Feels let down by Charles but wants to repair it. Just needed help to pay for security.
Harry: Skin color conversation. He will never share that conversation.
If had support they would not have left. Did every thing they could do to protect the family. Now beautiful house and family.
Any regrets? No, Harry is so proud of his wife for surviving (my word). Her regret is believing them when they said they would protect her.
Mentioned that family afraid of papers. Respects grandmother’s decision on patronages, military, etc.
Archie on beach. Dark brown/black hair. Couldn’t see face.
Harry. Thinks M saved him. She thinks he saved her life and their family.
Maybe she played assistant Midwife for the surrogate.
PH metnions control.
oprah mentions the loss of patronages and military titles.
she mentions the titles in the interview - I support the Q and can still support.
Oprah - I heard you are being punished now.
video of Archie - doing things iwth Archie.
PH - no regrets. I am proud of my wife. We did what we had to do.
MM - my regret is believing them that I would be protected. I was not supposed to feel, to know. I am thriving. This is a miracle. this is just the beginning.
I have a Happy ending.
Oprah - to PH - being trapped - did she save you - yes,other forcs at play. MM - he saved us. "find a way for Archie"
endng credits.
more on CBS this morning tomrrow (and the milking begins).
I hope that means the duchy purse is closed
There is going to be more of this shown tomorrow morning!!!
How many will drag out old stories discrediting these claims? How many will cover up the lies and deception?
These two are legit insane. The interview was pretty boring overall. Won’t move their US popularity needle at all.
Drive safe?
Do you think that one of the reasons PC was thrown to to the wolves had to be that the Dutchy purse snapped shut and they were mad?
They can't get to the Queen but PC and PW and K all were targets.
and that if she did she would not be here?????????????
I'm sure she reads everything
She tried to sue over several articles
and we think she reads comments/blogs
why didn't their noses grow really really long during this interview?
Are any British Nutties awake?
I can't believe how bad this was
Bad as in how much they revealed and how much they maligned both the staff and family
I mean, there they were, unprotected according to them...and nothing happened that seems to have warranted being protected against, so... just the lack of security, then?
I'm really surprised at the charles complaints
if the purse wasn't snapped shut before it will be now - i hope
HIDE THE CHECK BOOK CLARENCE HOUSE!!!
I think this would be a great time for the RF to " Never complain, never explain ". It will only add fuel to the fire. No retaliation, just continue your investigating and watch the Merchers implode from the sidelines. This too shall pass.
but I'm really shocked
What does everyone else that watched think?
Weren't they worse than we thought they would be?
They threw the whole family/monarchy/staff under the bus
does anyone have any guesses as to who they claim said something about the color of her baby?
It was a family member but not the queen
But the COE highest rep colluded with them so that the $42 million dollar wedding complete with ridiculous veil and PP dragging himself there with new hip and cracked ribs from a fall, QEII post-cataract surgery, Kate post-partum, Zara about to deliver. & and angst over Thomas's attendance despite heart attack was just theater? They were already married? Did I understand that correctly?
I thought I heard H say the Firm is removing titles, too. Everything.
I do not believe for a minute that MM does not read about herself. She is such a narc she can't help it!
I am shocked how much they threw everyone under the bus--even Charles.
The palace will be a mix of utter fury —— and yet, almost giddy that the Harkles have openly displayed their criminal lies (Megs) and the fact that Harry is a dumb moron under her total control.
Charles will agree to the ax.
William may hop a plane to California first thing tomorrow, in order to stop Kate and Anne, already in transit, from beating Meghan into a pulp on the chicken yard. Because he wants to watch as MI6 grabs the pair of them and disappears them to a South American prison farm. But Carole Middleton called Uncle Gary already and he has four big guys driving to Montecito from Vegas to take care of the woman who dissed Kate for three years.
If Philip hears how this went, he will 100% force the Queen to do full title and style stripping at once.
I hope everyone in England stands on their doorstep tomorrow at ITV showtime and emits a raspberry while given a big thumbs down gesture
I am shocked, too, that they threw everyone except HMTQ it seems, under the bus.
Maybe that will be part of tomorrow?
After she lied to them and said she wasn't doing it, you'd think they'd be keeping a sharp eye on her comings and goings.
Hydrate. Archie's new favorite word. It is in the Urban Dictionary. Sexual reference.
Drive safe. Archie's favorite good bye to his Ma and Pa. Also in the Urban Dictionary. Surprisingly does not have a sexual reference. But, "What some people say as a generic salutation when parting company instead of saying what they really want to say, such as fuck off or something to the same effect. Generally reserved for those who are not cared about in the least bit or are despised to the core of their being."
They got married before hand because they wanted something just for themselves. Where they said what they wanted to say.
Could the prior marriage be the reason that the whole Royal Family looked disgusted at the wedding? What a sham.
Thank you all team Nutties to those of you who suffered for the last 90 minutes...go take a shower now.
I wished I lived in the UK, so I can GMB with Piers tomorrow morning.
Done just for them, don't you know. What a sacrifice this pair have made for us commoners.
Hydrate. The Urban Dictionary is getting a workout.
1) security - this was huge. they expected to be protected, period.
2) a title for Archie. NOW they bring this up? 18 months later?
3) MM's mental health - I am sorry, but I find it incredulous that a man who touts mental health and getting help for issues was unable to get help for his suicidal wife. Not buying it at all.
4) Money and where is comes from - Harry is obviously clueless if he can make the statement about moving to LA and getting $deals and then saying "it was not supposed to be this way". That tells me that Harry expected to do his thing and be paid, period. I get that he had to spring for "security" using his inferitance. but the rest if it???
5) she said/ she said. There is a lot of fodder that should have been answered before now as to who shed tears around the wedding. IF it happened as MM says, that mess should have been cleaned up. IF it happened as written (KM tears), MM just destroyed that relatioship (she is a good person).
I do not see how they can have a relationship with his family after this. I just don't.
SirStinxAlot
re the prior wedding
but didn't they say it was only 3 days before?
they did say no one else was there but the minister, so maybe the family didn't know.
The early wedding was another shock
I thought Harry looked unhappy that she told that story
the funny thing is I think I remember the palace did make a statement about that at the time saying it was not true.
so that would mean mm is lying about them not backing her up
Lord have mercy.
My take in general:
Oprah wanted to use Megs to set up a huge race issue in the UK to force hate if the monarchy. Destroying Kate was the “must do” task of the night, and Megs gave it her best bad Hallmark acting to get the task done.
And Oprah pressed and pressed Harry to throw his whole family under the bus, using mental health and racism implications with no names of course and using the invisible Archie for a crowd-gasp of a racism allegation.
Meghan clearly lied and lied to a laughable degree. Two friends are texting me freaking out at her bad acting and lies and one was a fan until tonight.
Oprah re-edited and threw down to try to evade any Palace or U.K. press blowback by having these two use the suicide/racism/pregnancy cards. Sorry Palace staff.....Sorry Australian governor’s house staff.....your bully abuser cannot be touched because she was so depressed as she hurled abuse at you and wrecked your sanity and lives. Meghan didn’t have any way to know the English anthem and was depressed so she had a right to attack dozens of you! She is biracial and pregnant, so shut up with your issues, even if you are POC too. She helped Harry escape you too and she is a saint and all of you made her lose her father too! And yeah she was pregnant because Dumbo Sneaky Harry her puppet said so.
This was a set up....from the word go, from 2018 or 2016 or before that. My tin tiara turned to gold tonight.
JennS, others, what do,you think?
So if Archie has dark brown/black hair, who the hell was the kid in the christmas card?
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Or the striped shirt kid with mm that her friend just put and quickly deleted?
The one with the photoshopped violet hair?
Trapped in the castle like Rapunzel. I automatically went for the "like" button.
This whole story of the pure and genteel princess, trapped by the mean old queen, with nobody to help her, is pure storytelling badly done.
MM, I though you were the "whip smart" feminist, so strong and courageous. Wrong. Now go cry in a corner again, of course while breastfeeding. You can't make this stuff up.
I mean, come on, can't you just hear him?! Merely conversationally curious and not meaning to be ugly, but still. And of course they'd know better than to rat him out, especially at the moment. Daresay also HM, again, not meaning anything by it, just curious, like wondering if he'd be redheaded, etc.
Or maybe Princess Michael, but they'd have had no compunction about saying it was her.
I am betting it was something M decided on shortly before the wedding just in case H tried to change his mind?
It may have been too late to cancel the whole public wedding by the time the RF found out due to all the expenses already incurred.
I have NOT watched the entire interview yet. someone posted above a short stint about 70 members of protection officers signing something. What did they sign? what was that about?
Ugh - back to scrolling thru it all.
The people of UK will have their pitch forks out tomorrow. They paid for that lying grifter to have a $42 million wedding and security and allowances for 2 tears!! No one forced them to have a big wedding,princess Beatrice announced she would have a small private affair right after engagement announced. No one forced them to take tiles or quit acting, the queen gave them the option. Now they want title for Archie of questionable birth because they think they will get security paid for? But other blood royals living in UK don't get taxpayers security. They are shameless cons looking for handouts.
Bet they hope this interview makes the RF look bad and the public will plea for them to have freebies instead of working. They apparently have already got lucrative deals with Spotify and Netflix. Why gripe about paying their own way.
@JennS-- Palace statement about M not making Kate cry was designed to protect Kate not M (in M's mind)
In fact, it was Canada that first pulled the funding for security, after 80% of Canadians said that they did not want to pay for it.
I mean . . . it's POSSIBLE someone said it in a not-nice way, but it could also have been just another one of those "who will he take after"-type of conversations that you have when someone's pregnant. Or when you've paid someone to be pregnant for you, but I digress.
I still have a piece of paper where my father worked out in fractions what percentage my notional child would be, using my and my husband's heritage. It was pretty easy, since we were each almost 100% of one, 100% of another. (I put it in her baby book.) So why can't to be a charming, family discussion instead of another thing the media's going to clamp down on and never let go of, like that stupid Compton headline? AND ALSO . . . what are the odds? (Not a serious question!) He is unattractively pale, like minus-white, and she is, what, 75% white? So again, in my mind it was idle chat and it's going to turn out the be the "WAR DECLARED"-sized headlines tomorrow.
Which is what she wanted.
Wow, good call — I forgot that!
@Ian’s Girl
Yes! How lame and disgusting and embarrassing — he actually expected to sit on his ass in LA being asked to shake hands while daddy paid allowance forever. What a massive loser!
@ConstantGardener33,
I missed the hair color thing? What?!
Justin Welby, the CoE, is such a tool.
Just this month,
"Sandro Crepulja
The Church of England has refused to bless radical plans for home weddings proposed by the Law Commission.
Last year, the Commission – which advises the Government – recommended that pubs, hot air balloons, rivers and lakes would be suitable locations for weddings to take place, if officiated by a state-recognised individual.
It also said weddings could take place in private homes, and that the proposed changes would allow couples to pick from a wider variety of both religious and non-religious ceremonies.
Religious content
However, Mark Sheard of the CofE’s Mission and Public Affairs Council said the “commercialisation of the wedding ceremony was undesirable” and that “the public nature of marriage necessitated that weddings should not be held behind closed doors”.
Can he be fired now?
What is worrying is all the Twitter folks who have swallowed it hook, line and sinker. No one does any homework these days. Look it up. Titles. Security. It's not hard. Just as she could have looked up the national anthem any any other thing she needed to know. She's never off the internet for God's sake.
More to the point, Oprah just let those inaccuracies and falsehoods just stay there, unquestioned. She's supposed to be a professional interviewer. I knew what she would be like but I didn't expect it to be this bad. And my contempt for Harry is now ... I can't even find the words. And he expects to come here in July? He expects his brother to play nice? After THAT?
But it still means she did not tell the truth.
A statement was made and she did not reveal that.
Just like they did not point out that security is paid for by taxpayers.
They made it seem as if the RF with all their wealth stopped paying for the security.
And I remember reading that Charles was helping them pay for it himself!
The lie about not getting help - she could have taken antidepressants!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes no sense
Thinking there will be a bit of uproar about that one.
And the gawt-damned arrogance of that gazillion dollar wedding being for the world, I mean Jesus Christ.
I need to stop, I"m getting foul-mouthed. I'm sorry!
Harry acts like he's being chased by invisible monsters. If people hate him so much as to make him a target, he should recognize that he said the trouble began after the pair made their engagement announcement. Can't Harry put two and two together to make four?
I know she lied about the Kate dress fitting situation. But her spin would be the palace was protecting Kate. Although FF....
Antidepressants, maybe not. She was either (supposedly) trying to get pregnant, pregnant, or breast-feeding...
They were counting in this; they know they are done with the BRF, so they have got to gin up their cash cows from among those ignorant of how things work.
I am only shocked that Harry didn't know all this. And maybe he did and is just going along with it, in which case, he is more vile than she.
The comment was about the letter that the 69 female members of Parliament signed in support of Meghan. ot about Protection officers
It is rare in real life for a non psychotic person to "check in" to a psychiatric hospital unless a suicide attempt was already made.
Why didn't she just book an appointment with a psychiatrist? He/she could have made a housecall.
She seems to have only wanted to go to a hospital because it was more dramatic.
I would like to list the lies that were made.
I recognized so many - outright ones, lies of omission, reshaping of events
And I also recall receipts that could be used to prove many of the lies were indeed false.
She seems to have only wanted to go to a hospital because it was more dramatic.
.........
perhaps because she was setting up a storyline
as you said a doctor could have made a castle-call and prescribed antidepressants
I suffer from (not imaginary) depression and after starting medication I felt better in 4 or 5 days
"She seems to have only wanted to go to a hospital because it was more dramatic."
True. And her "miscarriage" required going to a hospital too. That's not so common either.
Harry’s money was inaccessible.
She whined and complained and was told no and didn’t get help for herself. So they moved to the US (this part doesn’t make sense at all, claiming Tyler saved them with House and security and that’s how they ended up in the US?! And yet, Harry goes on long bike ride with Archie....right)
Now she’s fine. Harry’s money is jointly in her name and property.
Wow, how magical is that anti-depressant!
Be curious to see if Nutmeg will now try and tell him it's ok to show more of (to her mind) a more merchable daughter? (Enough time has passed, we will just pay for more security, etc)
And I am still concerned about a girl, given all the mental women on both sides of this family.
It was lie after lie, and we can prove most of them. I missed the first part, but came just before Harry appeared. He is unsaveable. His intellect is in the gutter, he's been brainwashed, and I think the only thing to do is to remove all titles immediately.
They think they got away with not mentioning or blaming HMTQ, but their comments were so pointed in her direction that they didn't have to name her. The implication was there. They just threw Charles under the bus instead.
Diana used that excuse too, of not knowing what to do and no one helping her, when she had spent her whole life close to the royal family, her grandmother was a lady-in-waiting and someone was nominated to answer all her questions. Meghan is doing a low-rent version of Diana, as we've all already noticed. She must have planned this from the very first date with Harry, if not before.
In the second hour, she says that she wrote to the Queen to say that she didn't care if she and Archie ha no security as long as Harry had security.
This interview had more holes than Swiss cheese, but I imagine that the average American viewer would not know.
Harry saved Meghan (yet again- this storyline she pushes with him lol)
Oprah saved them from Canada,
Tyler saved them from lack of security.
A random saved their job/ lack of income.
They saved Archie from a future around racist Royals.
Diana’s trust fund Saved Harry (not his meanie dad)
Yeah, they just to fumbled into all of this! Everyone saves! They expect people to believe this crap?
Can someone bring out the Sussex Royal receipts, the hot tea scandal, the backend merching deals...
The absolute gall of these too is astounding. They contradict themselves in the interview quite a bit.
Having multiple accounts here really drove home the critical moments so thanks again.
AnT - I love your version of everyone rushing to LA to open cans of whupass.
NOTHING they said makes a bit of sense and I also think they crossed the line with this interview.
Definitely think they crossed the line with this interview!!! You don't throw everyone under the bus like that. They have burnt all their bridges!
Liked the comments about how they didn't have a plan and that they left for LA that way. This, this is why PC wanted them to write it down on paper. He was trying to see where they could/would have problems and try to get those worked out before they jumped ship. Totally reasonable.
I would think that the Palace could easily put out something about how prince/princess was not (contrary to what M said) an automatic birthright and that the proof was in the letters for the births of PW&K.
Archie on the beach. Black and white - not shocked but also easier to pull off a color comparison to any other shots (I'm on team pillow). But also that we see him running around, the dog on the beach but it's so fast - where do they get to do all this private time at the beach without any other people?
Not being able to get help? as someone pointed out, she managed to sneak off to help with the Vogue shoot. It's not like they took her phone. Even Diana used to slip out to see movies and she was the most or one of the most followed celebs where everyone wanted a shot of her (and trying to pass herself off as not herself would be a big payday).
“I have read so many times that Sophie, Countess of Wessex, tried to help Markle but that she did not want to listen to her.”
If they have to explain, I’d love them to call in Sophie for an interview. “Hey O, Sophie wants to chat.”
I'm not sure if the RF should respond or not, but I'd love see them take this on point by point.
Your overview list is great! Harry can't understand that a good relationship with the press is actually helpful to the monarchy. Drinks and dinner (or golf) is the major way to get new clients. and to appease old ones. It's part of doing business, and that's what The Firm is- a business, not a pretty play palace as MM thinks, or a jail, as Harry thinks.
Harry is much more of an idiot than I had realized. I put his IQ at around 90, well below average.
"all the narcs I know threaten or mention suicide when they are caught out."
Exactly. They do! I had one threaten suicide to me if I left.
Exactly. Even in my family, some have olive skin and black hair and dark eyes from my dad’s French side or uncles’ Italian roots, and others are very blonde from my mom’s family UK Dane Russian mix, or auburn from her French-Russian side roots, and family often wonder what the next baby will look like as it is exciting and fun. Some of us were born with eyes of two colors, so we talk about that. Together we often look like groups of friends, vs family. It is just conversation. But as staff reported this week, the two of them were determined to find negativity and rejection in everything. If something negative was said, of course that is awful. But with the Harkles, who knows what the truth is.
@lizzie,
Exactly.
I have friends from the UK now living in Minneapolis—he is from Liverpool, she from Kensington in London. They just texted “she a complete t**t, he a wet leaking t**, repay the taxpayers, exile not enough for these embarrassing pricks” plus a row of rage emojis.
Facebook: Crickets.
Nobody in this area cares. They're just some California celebritards.
Diana said herself, in those tapes
released a couple of years ago,
that the RF provided counselling for her.
Yes, GWAH Katherine, Duchess of Kent
received counselling for depression after a miscarriage.
Just caught a bulletin on local radio
“Megs complained about RF cutting off funds,
And the colour of Archie’s skin”
Nothing else!!
It’s International Women’s Day, and Megs
offering, taking a dig at Kate!!
If we go back and line up her actions it was only ever about money.
Saddens me that the Royal Family's hands are tied behind their back.. they get punched repeatedly but can't hit back.
Regarding narcissism: my late father was a narcissist who would often threaten suicide when he didn't get his way. It scared me as a young adult, I would call my mother because I was worried, but she had been through it so many times and told me to ignore it. Of course, she was correct.
William had no mud thrown at him, wonder why.
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good point!
perhaps because he will have control of the duchy money when he is PoW?
There is no return from this. This didn't just burn the bridges but it torched all the fields and houses on this side of the Atlantic.
JennS: I don't think that Oprah cared whether they were telling the truth. The point of the interview was to make the Harkles look good.
Saddens me that the Royal Family's hands are tied behind their back.. they get punched repeatedly but can't hit back.
................
It seems they have been hitting back more of late.
Maybe they should bring legal actions.
I know the RF does this on occasion.
This is no where near normal circumstances. They could get ruined over these racism and suicide claims.
I agree, I think they retapped or re-edited to give all that emphasis to the fable of Kate making her cry.
Superb catch on the Netflix thing!
In my opinion, they did less to William
*because they need his money in future, since they trashed Charles per their orders from OprahWorld or their bosses
*because Megs thinks If William hears Kate made her cry, he will dump Kate and run to marry and protect poor little helpless delicate Megsy
*because he scares them — Megs talks big but runs and hides every time, and Harry knows his brother’s fury can crush him
I found it on USTV GOTV. I just looked up where to stream the interview and that popped up. I tuned in late and only got there about two minutes before Harry came on. It was easy to get to the interview, although I don't have cable.
I think Oprah sped up the questions and quickly switched topics to keep us frantic to keep up, hoping that we'll give up trying to get every bit of info from the interview.
- Archies titles. She is so mad the Cambridge kids have them
and Archie doesn't.
- Security. They are furious at habing to pay for it.
- Lack of "protection". I'm still not sure what this is
about.Not being able to clap back, SM? I remember the
stories that the palace was stymied because the stories were
true.
- Loss of patronages. Particularly the Commonwealth roles
- Prince Charles. Wouldnt take calls, $$$$%
- Stil demanding half-in, Half-out. Pushing that hard
- Race, Race Race. Pushed by Oprah a lot
- Kate. She is the bully, not MM
- The Royals who can make money.
- The rules. Who dares asks them to follow protocol.
- Nothing new here
Absolute lies:
- They changed the "conventions" to make sure Archie wnt uave
title
- Unable to get help. Denied help due to optics,even though
suicidal
-Kate made MM cry
- MM nrver reads about herself. They really stressed this
- MM never looked Harry online. Knew very little about RF.
Didnt know Diana gave interviews
- Married three days prior to £15 million weffing?
- Did 2 billion really watch that wedding?
- The level of threat they live under
- I dont think anyone in the family asked anout Archies skin
color
- The palace took her car keys and passport? BS!
- Grieving her "lost" father
- No preparation or Guidance for MM
- They wanted to do hospital pics with Archie when nborn
- MM is an old pal (pre-Harry)
Oprah let them get away with:
- No bullying questions
- Both suicidal? At the same time? hmmm
- Archies favorite word is Hydrate
- This would have been a great tome to publicly thank Tyler
Perry
- Rescue chicks from a factory farm???
- Let Mm get away wit claiming criticism was "because she was
breathing. Not one question regarding private jets, etc.
- Harry mentionef trying to"educate" his family. More self-
righteous bloviating?
- She soft balled the whole interview
Surprises:
- The pre-marriage
- Archie at the beach
- PC not taking Hs calls
- Claim been cut off financially and security since 2st
quarter 2020
- Baby is a girl
- MM suicidal
Oprah kissed ass all the way through. No real questions at all. O can't believe O got paid 9 mil for this.
No mention of the bullying,politics, Prince Philip, flouting
the rules, the endless PR, commoditizing their childnbornir titles? These questions were agreed upon in advance. So much for Oprah, the great interviewer. Doria would have been tougher on them.
A complete bust, except there are a few lies that need to be addressed. The "I told them I was suicidal and they blew me off" bit, along with accusations about actively lying about her.
They are the same old complaints. I wonder though...is the suicidal stuff her protection from a bullying investigation?
She may have used this with Judge Warby.
This is routine for politicians and others who want good relations with the press.
But Oprah just sat there like a lump.
If the Sussexs are loosing their titles (doubtful) this may have been a preemptive strike to make them reconsider. It would appear to be retaliation, even if it was planned months ago but not announced.
I have said all along that Nutmeg has got Harry so convinced about the need for security that he has put his foot down about him being seen at all. (Again with the proviso assuming he is real)
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This could make some sense
But why no photos taken by the couple themselves?
A normal approach for this program tonight would have been to show some recent clear photographs of Archie as well as some footage.
Instead we got one photo - an old one - the one where the newborn meets the queen and pp - one that many have thought was photoshopped
and a very brief black and wife clip in which you can barely see him.
I didn't watch. Just followed thanks to those who were willing to sacrifice for the rest of us. Thanks!
I may look at bits that I'm sure will be available.
I am cautious re: diagnostic guesses. Generally though I would not have guessed M was depressed and/or suicidal while doing royal stuff. The only sign I can see in retrospect was her horrid personal hygiene. (Wrinkled clothes, unkempt hair, visible eyelash glue, dirty shoes, holes in stockings when worn) But there could be lots of reasons for that. And I suppose early morning awakenings could be meaningful (but I doubt it especially if she immediately started emailing staff!)
A personality disorder from the old Cluster B isn't unlikely IMO.
Re: Harry-- I don't think his apparent lack of intellect is due only to a learning disorder as has been suggested by some.
At the beginning of the program, Oprah makes a point of saying and confirming with MM that...
-they agreed no topic is off-limits
-they were not paid for the interview
-MM has not been told what questions will be asked
I find the third claim in particular difficult to believe
Did "almost 2 billion people" watch that wedding?
Not even close. 18 million UK and 29 in the USA (47) and then there other commonwealth or other places.
https://observer.com/2018/05/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-wedding-vs-prince-william-kate-middleton/
@Teasmade,
Exactly. Even in my family, some have olive skin and black hair and dark eyes from my dad’s French side or uncles’ Italian roots, and others are very blonde from my mom’s family UK Dane Russian mix, or auburn from her French-Russian side roots, and family often wonder what the next baby will look like as it is exciting and fun. Some of us were born with eyes of two colors, so we talk about that. Together we often look like groups of friends, vs family. It is just conversation. But as staff reported this week, the two of them were determined to find negativity and rejection in everything. If something negative was said, of course that is awful. But with the Harkles, who knows what the truth is.
Yep. Our extended families could be a United Nations meeting. It is always exciting to see who the baby will resemble/what genes will be on display. Our grandchildren range from looking as though they've stepped out of a Nordic country, to Mediterranean, to cafe au lait skin and curly black hair. We think they are all perfect. Eye colors range from clear ice blue to gray green to medium brown to such dark brown as to appear black.
@Elsbeth1847
@louise
Agreed.. the suicide claim was so totally made up. She was careful to say she hid it from Harry, notice?
And yet in her lonely, never heave the palace for four months imprisonments, she was merching her heart out, running an illegal borrowed-but-billed clothing ring with Messica, sucking up at Vogue and laughing uproariously in the lame photo shoot for Smart Works, clowning around in hats with editor Enninful, flying to million dollar baby showers and tennis matches, offering a view of her personal landscaping and scraped knees to Mr Serena Williams, making avocado toast and laying out robes for house guests, arranging with oligarchs for Canadian mansions, hanging with Elton John, going to $$$$$$$$$$ spa hotels with Harry, wearing blood diamonds, ordered ugly $90,000 gowns, and doing tons of healthy yoga and meditation while training Harry to do the same and eat better and quit smoking....
And we were told repeatedly that Doria is a licensed social worker and that she was advising the Harkles, remember? So, where was her motherly expert advice to her daughter hmm?
This is such a barrel of nonsense.
If we go back and line up her actions it was only ever about money.
Harry and Meghan must pay the price of their burnt bridges
The Sussexes cannot enjoy the perks of royalty while trashing the institution — it is time to remove their titles.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-must-pay-the-price-of-their-burnt-bridges-xkljbb5hh
The fact they sensationalize a normal conversation to try to create racist hate is absurd.
Charles went to therapy for 14 yearsearly in his marriage to Diana. Others, including The Queen, have been in therapy. They would not deprive a person who needs mental or emotional help, because they've been through it themselves. William has gone to therapy and so has Kate.
"According to royal reporter and biographer Sally Bedell Smith (via The History Channel), Prince Charles attended sessions with Dr. Alan McGlashan for 14 years after seeking help in the early years of his marriage. “Charles’s friend Laurence Van der Post says McGlashan perceived Charles as ‘misunderstood and starved’ of ‘really spontaneous, natural affection,’ and provided the prince with ‘the respect his own natural spirit deserves.'"
Like??? Why would they let Harry marry her if they didn't want a "dark-skinned" baby in the family?! Obviously, once two people get married, the next expected thing is to have kids. According to M, the RF was ok with the ostentatious wedding, but when she got pregnant, it suddenly dawned on them that the baby may not be white?! And they had a problem with that?
Make it make sense!! GRRR. LOL
And the hilarious irony is that Archie looks as white as it's possible to look. I didn't watch the video, so I don't know what "brown/black haired" Archie was shown - I'm just going by the photos of him that we've all seen.
Also, I'm brown (lol I hate all this color-specific self-identification, but I have a point), and here's my hypothetical situation: If I had married into the RF and then found out that my "mixed race" baby is being discriminated against cos of his skin color (!), then I would FLAUNT that baby PROUDLY as much as I could (lovely photoshoots galore!), and not hide him away as if I were guilty of something (ahem). These two clowns don't realize that Archie's future self confidence will be tied to their behavior. When he grows up and finds out that all of this went down, and that his parents' response was to HIDE him from the world as if they were ashamed of something, he's gonna feel some shitty feels.
JMO, obviously. I seriously doubt that anyone in the 21st century would make such comments after that wedding (but maybe that's my privilege speaking). I'm pretty sure if THAT wedding was allowed, then there was no problem with any future babies' skin color. She's quite messed up in the head. I wonder what BP will do in response.
You ladies are AMAZING!
Thank you all.
Harry also talk about being in therapy for (?)seven years. Was his therapist not available to see Markle?
She may have used this with Judge Warby.
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You know she did. The ultimate get out of jail free card.
Right up there with being heavily pregnant. Or miscarrying.
He’s right.
Same here with local news on Florida east coast and the trending news of Oprah interview on CBS local news.
I can't believe I watched the whole thing- two hours of "her truth".
What do people do when they see babies? They coo. They say "Oh, what pretty blue eyes!," or "lovely brown curls!, etc. Those statements have nothing to do with race. It's just a cute baby.
I am getting really tired of being called a racist just because I don't like MM or Harry. It's their whole demeanor that's unlikeable, except to young minds who don't have much life experience or don't read comprehensively.
Exactly. My Italian/German cousins had two daughters in their two families. Each child had Asian characteristics when born, so much so that a nurse apparently marked Asian-East Indian on a form for one girl. Both girls retained characteristics, unlike their siblings, and decided to do their DNA about 5 years ago at age 15. A few other cousins and uncles did it with them for fun. We learned there was a 16% East Asian highlands Himalayan factor across everyone’s reports, which keeps updating with better info.
We're in shock! I never knew someone who could lie so easily and smoothly. Talk about speaking with a forked tongue. MM can tell many porkies at once. She lies smoothly and effortlessly and seemingly without caring there are receipts to prove she is lying!
Did she forget about all the visitors they claimed to have?
Meghan before wedding. Messica and creepy make up artist after the wedding.
The five People magazine friends who described her house and office.
Jane Goodall, Hilary Clinton and Ellen Degeneris after Archie's birth.
I'm sure that I am forgetting some.
Waaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaaa!
I told you that I'd scream if I ever heard the words, "her truth" again." The truth is the truth. "Her truth" is her opinion.
👏👏👏👏👏
Exactly! Let’s see the price and nature of her “trapped” life. And your husband is right.
By the way, that whole “they married three days before the public wedding in secret thing” Megs admitted to Oprah.
So, the big wedding was unnecessary, a waste of taxpayer funds and fraud? Did the Archbishop tell the Queen? Is that why she was angry?
Or did Megs rush an early wedding to make sure he didn’t back out upon last minute pressure from friends or William?
Every single thing with these two is a sly, secret scam.
Remember when William had a DNA test and it showed that he had a small amount of east Indian blood in him?
"Prince William will be the first British king with proven ancestry from India, a DNA test has revealed. His rare mitochondrial DNA comes from his 5 x great-grandmother, a 'dark-skinned native of Bombay.'"