Let's continue the discussion.
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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I agree! Meghan might think Oprah opens the door for unlimited ‘set the record straight’ interviews on every network, but as we’ve seen before she far overestimates her importance and relevance. Yes, there is interest in this interview because most people want to see her weasel around questions. They want to see the freak show live. They don’t want to hear Meghan’s side of anything. Her sugars are far to young to use their Sunday night free time with MeAgain. At least she and Oprah’s team know her drama is technically for the older audience that she attracts due to BRF.
Beyond this, Meghan will have to become a victim of Harry. Go on TV, whine about his abuse and mental issues. Write the book. The book wouldn’t ever be about the BRF, it would be all about Harry the monster. How she couldn’t navigate life with him, how he made her give up life in BRF, how he’s abusive and absent minded, how he was full of so much hatred, how after the marriage he turned into someone she didn’t recognize and...she didn’t feel safe.
That’s the mega bucks end game for Meghan, and I’d wager it’s a couple years after her ‘second’ kid. She’ll need to move on.
Harry is stuck. Good riddance to them both.
Her comments are a top Yahoo News! Story:
"Cry me a river... the plight of being a game show host, fairly unknown actress, to suffering in a palace, with tiaras and 7-figure weddings for TWO WHOLE YEARS to being a household name w @Oprah on speed dial, fetching 7m for interviews, hundreds of millions in media deals," tweeted Frankel, referring to Markle's past appearances on the game show Deal or No Deal and her lavish 2018 royal wedding.
Despite her feelings about Markle, Frankel went on to say that she does sympathize with Prince Harry.
"I 100% give Harry a break. This isn’t the way to generate less press & cannot be filed under the guise of wanting privacy to prevent a repeat of previous events," said Frankel, who defended her right to share her personal opinion
"I chose reality TV, to work towards making money, to be scrutinized and criticized. I took the trappings and the beatings along with it. It’s a rose with petals and thorns," she said. "People beg to enter the often toxic institution I signed up for. That WAS the life I chose. You can’t play stupid and smart."
Prince Andrew, the second son, well, we all know what happened there.
Prince Harry, the second son, catastrophic decisions and a messed up life.
Please, please, please! Let Prince Louis find a fulfilling and meaningful way through life. He seems like such a sweet boy right now. I hope he isn't messed up in the way the others were. Maybe there's a good chance, given that with the rules change Princess Charlotte is "the spare". She seems to have a strong enough personality that maybe she'll be okay, too.
I do wish all three Cambridge children happiness and success.
Here, here. I hope someone made sure that article received the attention of the Queen.
They will never stop until cut off completely from the BRF.
Nutmeg will have told any him amount of lies about Trevor to explain why she had to drop him so quickly, or perhaps how her love for him (Harry) was so strong it couldn't be overcome, try as she might.
He is still in her thrall, and while I think he is starting to realize that the palace doors have shut, this might just add to the "You and I Against the World" aspect of it for him; "Look what I gave up for the woman I love and our children."
It will take her dropping him for the scales to drop from his eyes, I think, and even then I feel like he is such a resentful bastard that he might always blame his family and/or the evil press more than her. Time will tell, I guess.
Opus, I was inelegant in my phrasing about the Flashman character; I did know it came from Tom Brown and didn't mean that Fraser had stolen it or anything.
Hopefully someone will toss the interview up on their own youtube channel where I can watch it without adding to the viewing numbers.
The leaks about the "olive branch" and it being their final say tell me they know they have effed up, but even then, we now see she immediately wants another interview to dig a deeper hole still. Absolutely zero self awareness on her part, especially although again, I think dawn is starting to break at some level upon Hazbeen.
GazzerD, Adelaide, Australia, 2 minutes ago
As most have said, only one loser here and unfortunately its Harry, from war hero to hostage zero.
She will run out of steam and the media will sweep her bag under the rug she crawled out of. They have nothing to sell except boring poor me stories. Like children, the adults will ignore the tantrums and go on with their lives.
Without funding, the planted PR stories will dither away too. When Hollywood opens back up there will be new celebrity news drowning their crocodile tears out. Hopefully, the RF cuts them off financially. H has a trust fund, he is well equipped to take care of himself. If he blows it, its on him. Life lesson learned. Let him pursue the "financial Independence" they claimed to have wanted in the Megxit manifesto.
She won't leave him til he is broke, financially and mentally. What Harry wants, Harry shall get. Kharma is a b**ch. Let them reap what they sow. The RF will be fine.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20210120104980/prince-william-kate-middleton-home-anglesey-photos/
@ConstantGardner, I have no idea who the 'famous friend' Lena Gonzalez is, & my guess is that her own district probably are only vaguely aware of who she is, either.
@Animal Lover, @Acguitaine, & others who are surprised that the NYTimes would print an even vaguely snarky article about the Harkles, the NYTimes used to be SO much better. Many years ago there was a glamorous, handsome black NYC congressman named Adam Clayton Powell,(Google him, although his online info might have been tidied up.) He mostly gadded about NYC watering holes for the rich & famous, & didn't do much for his constituents, & the NYTimes would make that pretty obvious in their coverage of him, but their coverage was subtle & came no where near libel. The children writing for the NYTimes these days either aren't allowed to write like that, or don't know how.
Harry and Meghan are the perfect leaders of the new international woke elite
Victimhood, sanctimony and hypocrisy are the new markers of class in our postmodern landscape
NICK TIMOTHY
7 March 2021 • 9:30pm
Nick Timothy
Part 1:
Oprah Winfrey’s choice of words in inviting the Duchess of Sussex to “speak her truth” revealed more than perhaps she realised. For in this already-famous interview, Prince Harry and his wife are not only presenting their own account of their relationship with the Royal family. They are, like the debutantes of the past, announcing their arrival among an international social class for whom the truth – reality itself – is simply another commodity, to be bought, manipulated and sold on for profit.
Across the worlds of the arts, academia, business, sport and public life a new paradigm exists. Whereas once those at the top adopted airs and graces to distinguish themselves from hoi polloi, and more recently the rich and successful sought to prove that they earned their privilege through intellectual brilliance and hard work, Harry and Meghan now belong to a world in which they need to demonstrate their own victimhood, and place themselves above others by “educating” the masses about what they call social justice.
This world is built on a strange, and very American, fusion between postmodern philosophy and its critical theory descendants on one hand, and self-indulgent, on-the-couch psychiatric narcissism on the other. Meghan can be invited to speak “her truth”, rather than “the truth”, because, many believe, truth is little more than a social construct.
If you accept – as postmodernists once posited, and liberal elites now seem to accept – that discourse is oppressive, you accept that language, institutions, customs and traditions exploit the weak and maintain the prestige and power of the strong. You accept that even the exploited themselves participate in their own oppression, by adopting language, stories and social roles that keep them in their place. What, then, is truth?
Because nobody can understand how those social roles are constructed, we cannot understand our own words or actions. So it is that those around us – particularly if they are members of oppressed groups themselves – understand better than us the meaning of what we say and do. And so it is that we find ourselves amid a torrent of offence. For the intent behind our deeds is irrelevant, as are the opinions of witnesses. All that matters are the perceptions of “the victim”.
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It's exactly what Camilla Long wrote about in her Times article I posted yesterday.
She predicted the Harkles will make a living on complaining about the monarchy and I think she's right.
Here is a quote from her article:
But unlike in all other royal scandals, there are no signs the car will ever stop. There will always be another interview, another stakes-raising clap back, another round of petty “truth”-telling on what Kate said about tights at the wedding. There will be years of this — attacking the royal family is now Harry and Meghan’s bread and butter. It seems amazing to me the Queen didn’t strip these chancers of their titles and choke off the cash long ago. What do they have to do for that to happen — slap her on live television? If the Palace bullying story is a way of establishing a case to remove their titles, they need to hurry up.
Rupert, or his editorial heirs, have obviously decided what side they're on. The Murdochs have always been pretty canny, as much as I dislike admitting it.
Not even logic is allowed to get in the way. The couple can complain that “the Firm” treated them badly, even as they attack the Royal family while Prince Philip lies ill in hospital. They protest that news reports of Meghan’s behaviour towards junior staff are a smear campaign orchestrated by Buckingham Palace, yet it is surely more likely that the Palace has been embarrassed by its failure to investigate complaints at the time. The likelihood is not that Meghan is being attacked because of who she is, but that she escaped scrutiny for that same reason.
Rejecting a life of royal service, Harry and Meghan felt able to taunt the Queen, declaring, “service is universal”. But the service they provide, if that is what you can call it, is based on their fame, and their fame is derived from the Royal family. Relentlessly, they are now using that same fame to earn many millions of dollars.
Such hypocrisy is part and parcel of the class they have joined. Disney issues racism warnings about Dumbo, Peter Pan and The Jungle Book, but produced Mulan last year in Xinjiang, working with Chinese agencies engaged in human rights offences. McKinsey, the management consultancy company, advises firms on how to avoid “micro-aggressions” and “misgendering” staff, while instructing its employees not to protest against Vladimir Putin in Russia. English football uses the language and branding of the anti-Semitic and Marxist “Black Lives Matter” campaign, but remains silent on the use of slave labour in preparing Qatar for the next world cup.
From celebrities flying across the world to participate in Extinction Rebellion protests to corporate bosses who preach social justice while treating their workers abominably, the defining characteristics of this powerful international class are hypocrisy, sanctimony and absurdity. And Harry Windsor and Meghan Markle are the perfect prince and princess for their new social set.
Petered Panned
Megs lives in Never Land
Plotting and scheming, as planned
With her latest mean ploys
I’m ready to Pan
Her dissing, Harry’s Nan
Left on her OWN, ‘cept Lost Boys
The trail of destruction they leave in their wake – to their families, junior members of staff, the monarchy and our constitution – seems to matter little to them. After all, they and their new friends must tell themselves, their truth is rather different.
Meghan and Harry seem to understand these mind-bending rules of woke society and are prepared to exploit them to the maximum. He, the grandson of Her Majesty the Queen, and she, the multimillionaire actress, are busily constructing a narrative in which they pose not as privileged members of a wealthy elite but as victims of oppression.
Any expectation that they might show restraint or sacrifice in the service of an institution that itself serves hundreds of millions of people worldwide is dismissed as an outrageous example of control, and a denial of their own right to self‑expression.
Oprah Winfrey asks whether Meghan has been silenced or merely remained silent. Meghan herself complains that the Royal family prevented her from granting interviews that nobody would have cared about had she not married into the Royal family. Preposterously, as Meghan encouraged Americans to vote against Donald Trump – an obvious breach of royal protocol – Harry complained that in Britain he never had the right to vote. Such is the adversity and discrimination princes face these days.
In this woke world, words and reality do not even need to correspond. Harry can lecture Britain about “structural racism” – a theory that holds us all culpable for systematic discrimination against minorities – without dwelling on his own past behaviour, which included calling a fellow soldier his “little Paki friend”. Meghan can lecture the world about the need for kindness and justice without acknowledging her own alleged bullying of junior royal staff. Scrutiny is dismissed as “racially charged” and “misogynistic”.
*Please note: I think this is not a very meritorious claim but nonetheless they unfortunately have already had some success in suing on lesser things.
Have any nutties seen the 1940s film "Leave Her to Heaven" with Gene Tierney? Ravishingly beautiful technicolour. About a young woman who is extremely possessive, jealous and manipulative. Wanting to keep her husband to herself, she prises him away from her family who are close to him. Then she drives his best friend away. Then, in one of the most memorable scenes in 1940s film, she lets his handicapped little brother drown in front of her, just feet away. Then she kills his unborn baby by deliberately falling down the stairs. I won't tell you the end but it's really twisted. I watched it this evening and the systematic dismantling of the husband's life, replaced by isolation, seemed very topical.
As litigious as the Harkles are, in particular Meghan, I wonder if she is setting things up for a Personal Injury suit against the BRF.
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That's where I think she's headed. Something was already said that if she won the summary judgement she was going after big personal injury damages.
Thank you for posting the article. The author has it right!
@Museumstop and ConstantGardener33
So the "interview with Oprah Winfrey would be the 'last word' on their rift with the Royal Family" but she "may do another Oprah interview" and "is keen to go on the offensive"? If this is true she’s not right in the head.
Yes, if she goes to the mat over the bullying allegations she truly must be mad. I hope that any Round 2 with Oprah would be followed by a flurry of lawsuits for defamation of character directed at Markle by the women she bullied.
Some claimed one of the producers of the Harkle interview was someone that either took pictures or published pictures of Princess Di after her accident. And said ,what say you harry?
Anyone know if thats true?
Dont know if this is a real news source, but uf this is true. Gross
He probably had no clue and of course did no research and left it to MM
Ugh, sooooo distasteful, when he realizes, that should screw with his mental health more.
Or maybe he really doesn,t give a crap and its all partnof their act?
But alas I’ll switch between both. I’ll be here viewing any comments!
In American jurisprudence, if one has a pre-existing condition of mental anguish (such as depression which is approx. 20% in women) it will enhance one's claim of harm as they are considered 'vulnerable. Past mental illness could bolster the case that Megs needed protection, indeed help, from an institution that has shone a light on mental illness. Conversely, if the mental harm is new then an attorney can argue that an otherwise strong mentally fit person experienced such serious harm it created the mental distress complained about.
An opposing attorney would have to be very careful IMO in attacking someone with mental illness as the optics are bad. In fact, the past mental illness could perhaps be protected from disclosure due to HIPPA. In addition, one only has to look at victims of rape to see that any mention of their prior sex life is off limits. Many victims of abuse do not seek help due to being ashamed, scared, unwilling to relive the trauma or in Meghan's case she could say it was not allowed due tp a variety of reasons the least of which is the BRF controlled her activities 24/7.
I am only being the 'devil's advocate not that I believe in her victimhood (its more like everyone in the BRF should be protected against Meghan and her mouth at this point. lol
Oprah’s expression - side eye.
“You really ARE pregnant”
here here we will tell you at end of show what kind of baby we bought/are having .....
Wedding—— “out of body experience”..... phwaw yet she was smug....
The day planned fir the worlld ———! Arrogant....
Repeats she didn’t know much about royals, repeating the lie
She keeps looking to the side .........
6” stilettos on gravel w mu mu dress while pregnant.....
Oh she is old pals with Eugenie before she knew Harry.........
Oh my god —— JennS....oh my god,.....the naive 36 year old with international relations study...
‘Thank god I didn’t research them or I’d be in my head about it!’
While she’s sitting with Oprah!
Lmao
Presented by Oprah....
Pictures of the wedding - Out of a fairytale. Pix of their last visit in London.
Megxit....and Megahn pix.
Meghan walks into the setting PG - socially distanced.
MM does not know the questions before hand, and not getting paid for this.
she starts off with the marriage ceremony. A sense of Magic.....
where were you - out of body experience that she was present for.
this day was planned for the world (really?).
what did you think it was going to be like - I went into it Naively. Mom questioned her about did Diana do an interivew Denies looking up husband on-line before relationship.
She says she had questions going in....she says she had no idea what id yould be like. Perspection and reality were two differernt things.
Oprah talks HMTQ - meeting her - not a huge formality when I first met her.
Harry asked her if she knew how to curtsy. She thought it only happned outdside.
she practiced before she met HMTQ.
teaser - were you siletn or silenced...
-2Billion watched wedding?
-They are raising chickens?
- Wedding was"planned for the world"
- She didnt know much about Royal family
- Didnt know Diana was interviewed
- Never looked up Harry
- Friends with Eugenie before Harry
- Completely confused about what role expected but was judged on those expectation
Whose fault was that? Talk about marrying in haste to repent. at leisure
She learned to curtsy outside the Lodge before going in before meeting HM. She did a deep one as that shows respect.
I got the impression one she did for the wedding was not deep.
Meghan has a hen farm.
"....if one has a pre-existing condition of mental anguish (such as depression which is approx. 20% in women) it will enhance one's claim of harm as they are considered 'vulnerable. Past mental illness could bolster the case that Megs needed protection, indeed help, from an institution.."
Perhaps. But wouldn't one have to have disclosed the past mental illness for an institution to have that responsibility? It certainly works that way with other "invisible" disabilities and ADA, for example.
My husband, ‘where is Archie?’
Trying sooo hard to be the surprised little girl next door instead of a worn yacht hooker
Using the sort of music you heard when they looked into things like Lockerbie and 9/11 — stop me from kicking my tv
Ohhhhh now the day after at—- Casa Harkle....walking lawn in wellies! Dogs chickens “I always liked rescuing”and then we see Harry the rescued lame silent slumber
Peaceful here......we got married three days before our wedding! w Arch bishop!
Oprah presses her.
Meghan says Kate made her cry!
Ah she did hear of the Kate cry thing and says it never happened and she gives liar face and is about to blame Kate
She says Kate made HER cry!
Oh but kate apologized fir hurting Megs and sent her flowers oh my god he face is pure pure 12 year old liar face
“Reverse happened”. Kate was upset about flower girl dress and it upset a, and made M cry....all Kate’s fault she should not ha e done it know what I went thru w my dad
kate made mm cry!!!!!!!!!!!
over bridesmaids dresses
She says the dress fitting is true but it was Kate that attacked her!!!
She claimed Charlotte was too fat. Meghan wow what a bitch.
She said she apologized and she forgave Kate, so she doesn’t want to get into the details.
She has her butch face on. — wow she is bla,ing the whole palace for the Kate thing.
She is lying — oh she isn’t blaming Kate, Kate is a good person..........we are seeing how M has lied her whole life right now
Hopefully, William is ringing up the good French swordsman; one must be merciful, after all.
she tried to sue about the avocado story!
what a liar
and back on the patio - the drama started:
she hadnot heard of Hurrican Meghan. Making Kate cry (she heard) was a turning point - MM - it did not happen. I did not make Kate cry. Where? MM sighs and ssays the reverse happened. She apologized, bought flowers. She did what I would have done if I hurt someone. I would not wnat that to come out about her....
OPrah - the reverese, explain - MM cried. It was around the flower girl dresses. Mentions he dad. this was a big think MM cired. Oprah - you were going through wedding, etc. anxiety - a confrontation over flower girl daresses and she apologized. It happened to me. Why didn't friends so what happened. MM shrugs. I hope Kate would have wanted this correctied - she is a good person.
Oprah talks about Kate praised, MM shamed (the hand on the bump for instance). MM is incredulous. they laugh over some of the comments.Was there a standatd for Kate - mm I don't no why.
Teaser - first mied race person to marry into the family....
Rescued chicks from factory farms
Claims she never made Kate cried. Kate was one at fault, apologized and set flowers
Says Kate hurt her feelings and made her cry. Was unsupported by her.
Mm has forgiven her so wont give details.
Institution wouldnt tell truth or let anyone else corrected
Comparing Kate baby bump/avocados stories for how she was portrayed and double standard for Mm
Bump holding
Avocados
O: “A standard for Kate and a standard for you?”
Oprah dives straight into mixed race “first mixed race of royal family”
here it comes after the ads
‘Why is she such a terrible speaker? Is that her real voice? She’s incredibly boring.’
Wouldn't she have to prove that the RF eere responsible for inflicting mental anguish on her. Not the media or public. At what point is she responsible for seeking her own therapy? Personal accountability. They are willing to cause this gigantic circus for more attention for the narcissist, but too much to handle when sil doesn't want to go shopping with you? Pretty sure any trained therapist would think she is as wacko as the rest of the world.
What a bad actress.....lots of M saying “hmmmm,” over and over at Oprah questions as if a sigh of knowing suffering but in silence
Anyone here think she is
Oh my god her fakery! Such bad facial expression for lue and acting sad and suffering what a massive ass
Not being protected, they are willing to lie to protect other RF family members but not willing to tell truth to protect H and me
Read on LSA Meg said Kate made her cry??? Ugh. Glad i am recording it vs watching it live.
and then I was silenced. I was silenced. How?? - everyone in my world was told "no comment" - MM - I am being protected - I belived that. ONce we were married, it worsed, I was not being protected, others were protected, not me and my husband. You did not feel supported by the fmaily - Mm separates them - the family and those who support them, HMTQ has been wonderful to me. Did you feel welcome by everyone. - the tennis match is brought up. MM - everyone welcomed me. but my experience is not what it looked like. The firm - you can't do this because it will look like that"
MM sasy she went nowhere. - Obsession with how things look, - she felt lonely. She was allowed very little to do. she mentions the lookdown.
Teaser - the color of the baby's skin (not verbatim).
-says she was silenced
-claims RF said they would protect her
- Claims RF lied to protect other family members but wouldnt tell truth for her
- Says HM was great to her. Gave her earrings and necklace (pearl) and shared her lap robe in the car
-Admits everyone welcomed her but her oversaturation had them asking her to stay on. Lonely. Comparable to lock down
- Says there were convos about Archie: no title, no security and concern about what his skin color would be
Complaining they would not let her have lunch w friends because you Are over saturated everywhere in press, she felt so lonely
O. You felt alone when you are in love w a prince.. compares it to lockdown being lonely
🔥☄️🔥☄️🔥
M ..
“Place would not Give Archie security title and had discussions how dark his skin would be when born “
Oprah stares gasps WHAT!?
I hope the Palace has lawyers watching this sh*tshow and I hope they are ready to sue and strip styles
I guess she could not do what she wanted to do because of what it would "look like". Okay....that makes no sense.
I hope the Palace has lawyers watching this sh*tshow and I hope they are ready to sue and strip styles
BTW:: It was mentioned earlier in the interview by Oprah that Meghan was the first biracial person to marry into the RF, which as I recall is not accurate.
Publicly calling the RF racist is the craziest thing I’ve heard from her.
She’s still boring AF though.
They would lie to protect other family members.
And then it moved on to how the photos of Kate at Wim were not what it looked like
BUT there is an obsession with how things looked rather than how she felt about it
Thinks press needs hero versus villain. (Meghan v Kate)
She didn’t make Kate cry; Kate made her cry.
They will tell the sex of baby #2 tonight when Harry joins them.
She spent some time again denying she knew much abt the Royal Family.
They have a chicken coup.
Palace people silenced her. Everyone in her world (her parents) told to respond to media with only “no comment” and they said they would protect herthem. She came to understand that they (she) were not supported.
What she experienced was nothing like what it looked like from the outside. Not allowed to do many things. She was isolated.
When she was pregnant: “they” talked about not giving the baby a title and talked about how dark the baby’s complexion would be. Went right to a break.
Megs loves to insert her own action words on situations. Not surprising that if someone brought up hair color or eye color or complexion like most folks wonder about in a benign speculation, that Mugs would spin it into "concern" in some way to insert a racist insinuation. Foul!
-Asked for help from institution for a long tome
what kind of help? Didnt answer
-Character assassination allowed to continue
-Wanted Archie to be a prince
-Says Archie wasnt going to get security because he didnt have a title that provided that
- No explanation for A not being Prince. She really wants that Prince title like Cambridge kids. Stresses safety for A with security
- Says they changed convention for Archie. They actually pulled it fom him. Liar
Oprah asks
Oh my god M was fried tired even though it is so beautiful there.....people were surprised to see her pain .......she had been suffering and asking fir help
O help from what
M. Uh uh uh uh mmmmm uh uh looks to side thinks,,,,“Her continued reality....what it would Be”
That fake bitch Oprah does not say to her with all,the struggles and poverty in Africa how can you be whiner
Back to no security for Archie.....back to blaming palace for tabloids and no prince title so thus no security for baby..... they don’t explain it to her she heard it thru H.....I thought welll..... oh M has no attachment to the grandeur the most Important title she has is mom..,...but oh her sin gets no title like other grands ....
Ha she doesn’t care of title....but but but but but it isn’t their right to take it away.... I thought they said they didn’t want title....O asks....M say no it is not
Titles are pain!
Only cares about security.
“All the grandeur surrounding this stuff is an attachment I don’t have.” She then claims her best title is “Mom.”
All of this makes me even more furious at Harry. He has to have known all this, why didn't he tell her? Or did he, and is just letting her spew this crap?
Palace would not tell world of la k of title
O pressing why no traditional title ....no says M not it at all.....
She was scared offering up baby knowing he would not be kept safe
Yeah it is all about title,,,o why no title. Race?
M can I give honest answer.....conversations of his dark skin when born....o asks who is asking...m does not answer just nods
O hold on. A conv w who,,,,,,who.......M looks tearful....it would be v damaging to them (oh harry relayed to me but she won’t tell O who
M was nit able to follow up w why skin color was issue,,
Fake tears fake face ......commonwealth is color representation but....
Archie reads books if you see it who can be it and Archie says you canbe it
-Denies saying ahead of birth werent going to do birth like others
-Again with titles and security for Archie
- Oprah: who brought up skin tone baby Archie. Wont say who but implies it was family
- Again the race stuff.
- Commonwealth countries so happy to see POC.
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Opran - what was going on with you - the pictures look beautiful. But we were "on" - it was exhausting. I needed help - for what - we weren't being protected. My was PG. What are reality was going to be.
She saw the beginning of character assasination.
She talks Archie - prince or not. He was not going to receive security. No security. No security - Oprah is stunned. She talks titles or what, points to family and says our son needs to be safe. Oprah asks reason for no security - Mm: no explanation, but will not quote anyone. Mm talks her son being safe - if he would be called a prince will it make him safe. She also mentions color and not being titled. she mentions when Charles becomes king - will he be titled/ safe? she has no answers.
Oprah says that it is not true that they did not want Archie to have a title.
Oprah menitons the birth pix at hosptial. And MM says it was not that - and brings it back to a title and safety. Oprah mentions the birth pix and them wanting to do things there own way. MM is defensive and firm about her decision.
Opran asks about Archie - and no title. When I was PG - we had conversations about safety and no title and how dark his skin could be - MM is delibertly vague. MM/ PH did talk skin color, but refuses to talk about if it was said with the rest of the family. Oparh - are you saying that they were having problem IF he was brown? MM mentions the Commonwealth - and mentions her oolor and representation, and does not answer the question.(video of Commonwealth people).
teaser - what ws going on - MM I did not see a solution.
About Archie not getting a title, did they not want that? Did they not claim they want a private life for Archie?
Asking for help after Australia trip. Not protecting them. Would not defend her. While pregnant talked about: Didn’t want him to be prince and would not receive protection. Not clear what protection means. Oprah pushing on that. Meghan keeps saying there is no protection. Heard this from family members and also from Harry. She keeps talking about child not being safe. Saying not right that he wouldn’t get a title or be a prince and therefore bo protected. Says not treated like other great-grandchildren. Absolutely believes title equal protection. Does she think was abt race? No answer then. “Tandem discussions” happened on no title and no protection for kid and also about how dark his skin would be. These were family conversations with Harry. Although she doesn’t admit it, she thinks they did that because he is biracial.
I thought Letters was changed only for Prince William's kids.
Need someone to set the record straight.
Yes!!! lol
And is Oprah pushing that narrative
I sure hope they call her on these lies.
So far surprises: Kate made me cry at fitting, they actually married three days ahead of wedding, they actually changed the "convention " to prevent prince title A, RF worried A would be "too brown"
WTH
She is throwing H under the bus too w this,,,...totally
Her face is such bad acting, fake emotion,,looking aside, dare not speak, teary fake eyes omg.......
Harry is her new target!!! Harry is toast!
Yup 👍
Sue her, Palace, strip her and H now
Where was Harry? She could have gone to any hospital.
@SirStinxAlot
First she was living in the UK so the ADA is not binding to the BRF (maybe some knowledgeable UK Nutties could tell us if there is a corresponding UK law similar to the ADA). The ADA also protects those that 'think' they may have a disability, or even if others think they have a disability.
Meghan is firmly and clearly stating on camera she thought the BRF should have protected her and that she asked for it. So she has set the stage they knew and did nothing (eg. the SA tour remark filmed for all to see 2yrs ago that no one asked of she "was ok"). Generally it is safe to say in personal injury law, the victim is not required to get 'help'. Think about this way, why should one expect a victim of mental damage make to good choices when they are mentally unwell. The court does not require an injured person to mitigate the damage caused by another (eg. would a court expect a sexually assaulted victim to get counseling or else lay blame on them for their own distress).
Meghan in this interview is clearly laying the groundwork she couldn't get help due to "the Institution". Now Meghan threw down the worst possible thing, it drove her to consider suicide. She said the Institution rebuffed her pleas for help.
She sat up at night. She was ashamed to admit it, she didn’t want to be alive anymore
Liar face again
She went to ask institution most senior people to ask for help they said no it would not look good....so she went to HR in palace for help.....they told her yes,,it is hard but nothing they can do as she is not a paid employee of inst......this was emails —+ find the emails
Were you having suicidal thoughts? “It was clear” so she went to one of Diana’s best friends she would understand they took her passport and keys when she joined palace.
O — you were trapped!
M. Yes It is the truth
Jesus Christ.
Interestingly, most of the royal family have gone to psychologists/psychiatrists at one time or another, so I don't believe this at all.
say goodbye to any political career, MM
She could not check herself in for help:
She was on the verge of suicide but was not allowed to get help or check in even though she asked for help from the institution. Could not be left alone because she might kill herself.
-Keeps saying she doesnt read mefia
- criticism "happeningng because she was just breathing"
-Says constant thoughts of suicides
-Institution denied her request for rehab!! "Wouldnt look good"
- went to HR!!! Nothing we can do because she wasnt a paid employee
+Turned to Dianas best friend for help ??
- They took her car keys, passport and kept her prisoner. Couldnt just go to rehab
-This is so over the top
- Tears
- Had to go to Royal Albert hall and wept throughout
- Stresses the courage needed yo ask for help
More M tears
O so sorry to hear that.......Harry gripped her hand at event next night during vent lights down she wept and wept....oh you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors you should have compassion for people.....
Just not for her dad of course! O you know h and I are working on a mental health special
M can’t tell H as H is carrying the weight of world on his shoulders!
——. I may throw up now.
Thanks. But I was responding to your post about US law.
racist mentions.....
almost unsurvivable - where you in some kind of mental trouble. a breakting point.
MM - I did not see a solution. He mom - why aren't they protecting you.
Harry was suffered loss, I didn't walk to be alive anymore. I was a clear and constant thought. He just cradled me. I needed help - She talks aobut the Institution and asking for help - she went to HR and asked for help. HR - said we cna't help you becasue you are not a paid emplyee of the institution. so we had to find a solution.
MM - I was having suicidal thought. I reached out to one of Diana's firend.s Oprah - did you think about going to a hospital - "I couln't do that.". I surrendered everyting of my life. Oprah - you are describing being trapped. MM - that is the truth.
MM - we had to go to an event- she looks great, but she had just had the talk with PH about being suicidal. PH - had to go, MM - I cna't be left alone, but they both went to the event. I cried at the event. "We were "on". You have no idea what is going on behind closed doors.
Opran mentions the mental health issues that PH/ PW are heading. and MM talks bout how dark a place your are in.
Teaser - do you fear a backlash...
My husband — completely lying how can you watch this? Is this that wh**e that prince married? Idiot
It doesn’t make any sense that Harry couldn’t get her help.
And, the plug for the mental health thing O will do with JH.
- Active role the Firm is taking in perpetuating falsehoods
+ Grieving her lost father???
I am not going to live my life in fear, just truth.
I don't know how they can expect us to be silent when they are prepetuating falsehoods aobut us.
I lost my father (huh?) my baby, almost lokk my name, but ......
teaser - did you blind side the queen.
She is truly twisting everything around
throwing them under the bus
the palace is going to be upset tomorrow
so many lies / reshaping of stories
such a phony
I absolutely don't believe the royal family was worried about how dark her baby could be
Oh now she's saying she didn't want to be alive anymore
And the "institution" refused to help her
I knew this was why they weren't doing an interview of the two of them together as a couple
They didn't want Harry sitting next to her while she skewers his family with lies
He is responsible for whatever his wife says so there is no escape from any blame for him even if he hides while she maligns.
Oprah is eating up the racist stuff. I think she's falling for it because she WANTS it to be about racism.
I think this interview is pretty bad - she's making a lot of harmful claims against the RF
I saw in the DM that aides are staying up to watch and will report to the Queen tomorrow morning. I feel really bad for Her Maj
Since others are doing the live posts I'm going to focus more on writing a full report after watching my recording
Also, she said I've lost (pauses, looks around) and then says we've lost ... she lists her father, the baby and her name.
I'd like to point out that she doesn't mention any other family members or that Kate is still referred to as Kate Middleton and they've been married for how many years now? Losing her name was happening.
She just freaking blamed the Palace for the loss of her father........
Hang on to your hats folks... H is up next.
This baby is a girl H says....
I think this is going to be a disaster for The Harkles. The strong, woke woman crying about how alone she felt, couldn't get help. Well, suck it up, Buttercup. Pick up the phone and call someone if you need help. She went to HR to get help???? Strong women don't advertise their trials and tribulations to the world.
So far, I am struck by how Meghan looks like she is lying, the stories are fantastical and she doesn't name names or give details.
God help me.
She is banking on the palace not being able to do anything to a suicidal chick.
I hope they prove her wrong, in a big way.
Her advising Oprah to check for the emails is interesting; she has had this planned.
Oprah presses and they talk in circles and don’t let out any details or specifics.
Than you too! I was speaking about US law btw. But since she was a resident of the UK and the incidents happened there I would think the forum for any potential legal action regarding the BRF would have to happen in a UK court.
Asking for help but could not get it.
Race and social media increased the risk to HAMS.
Does anyone else think that H’s hair looks thicker?
Lack of support ot understanding cause of them leaving? BOTH
Oprah is pushing the race card hard. Harry says he never blindsided the Queen.
Now Harry
- Gender: A girl. Due in summertime
- Harry has said amazing 10 times
- now whining about security.
- Stayed with Tyler Perry because he offered security.
- Security gone due to change in status
- Said they have had conversations for two years with family
- H also asking for help and denied
- Back to in and out like so many others
- Heres Diana...the same problems but add in SM and race
- Repeating script of racism by UK. Says hes asked for calm from media three times
- Never blindsided HM. Says that story came from inside the firm
- PC stopped taking Hs calls because he too matters into his
own hands
Gender - It 's a girl ( Iwas right aobut the pink stone ring).
Harry is happy - he has his family. Baby due in summertime (vague)
Pix/ video of Megxit.
Canada - security was cut off. Move to LA, with security.
archwell.
again - security mentioned by MM. Harry - security was being removed. Oprah - what was removed - change of status. PH - the risk had not changed. Defends his parttime royal.
Oprah - video of megxit. Ph/ MM defense statement.
Oprah - did you blind side the Q, what wAs the topping point. It was desparate. You left becuase you were asking for help and couldn't get it? MM metnios senior members and non senior members (thereit is). So MM sasy, elt's step back.
Taking a step back for constat battles - PH. I was seeing history repeat itself.
I can see the same thing happen. they could help - (apparently did not). He says they were the tipping point??? Is he speaking of unconsicious bias? He is bouncing from his mom to them as a couple. Oprah again - why did you leave - lack of support, lack of understaning PH. It was both - the fmaily and the firm. Denies blindsiding the Queen. Oprah pushes again - he denies it again. Says PC stopped taking his calls. Harry took matters into his own hands.
teaser - who manipulated.....
In the world according to them, PC stopped taking JH's calls (after the 2nd one where PC asked him to put it on paper - what they wanted to do and how they were going to do this).
Not an unreasonable request at all.
I wonder how long that lasted????????
ROTFLOL!!!!!
None of their story makes sense. Husband says it’s for clickbait and sympathy lines. Nothing more.
Again they pushed the idea that they wanted to step away from being senior royals and be like the not seniors who live on palace grounds, only get asked to work once in a while but still are able to have other full time jobs.
But, my impression is that those non-senior royals don't get security and having security is a big deal with them.
The outrage that they lost security with the not being senior royals change in royal status while in Canada.
then it was the day before at gayles?
Little red house is named "Archie's Chick Inn"
But where's Archieeeeeeeeee?
O why did I leave
M jumps in babble
O asks H for answer
H says PCharles said put it in writing...,,then his dad stopped taking his calls as H took matter
O wants to hook and pin H in stuff now and M seems nervous her puppet may talk
You guys this is so bad.......a ruthless grifter, her dumb husband.....every bridge burnt.
Omg M equates her life to the Littie Mermaid cartoon about losing voice w prince but she gets it back at end.....smiling fake as she tells this clearly made up fake story....H slumps nearby
H again no help, no help wah......it wasn’t just affecting wife it was affecting people everywhere
now Harry is saying that he's mentally anguished. Harry says he was ashamed to admit she needed mental help. so, he did nothing???
Really?
Jesus Christ.
Praises female members of parliament for that stupid letter of support for spoiled lying M remember that..,
O being tougher on H than on M trying to force him to trash royals or uncork royals,,,,
O is Clearly doing this to screw the royals, and BRF........
Weird interview.
Thank you everyone for providing updates about the interview. I can’t stand to watch it and hear her whine and lie.
H calls M the greatest person to represent the commonwealth.