Fresh post to continue the conversation.
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
Comments
I think that’s why she came up with the “we got married three days before the wedding” story. It was mean to be a big eff you to the British Public, who paid for it, and the Royal Family. It’s the whole “we didn’t want the big wedding but were made to have it” so people stop throwing that back at her that she was given a fair chance, the RF aren’t racists etc because of the massively expensive wedding.
He did say it, I remember thinking please someone say something, but of course yes that would have been far too embarrassing live on national television too. :o/ I don’t think Welby could stand in front of the head of The Church of England and State and not utter the full wedding ceremony spiel.
I’ve checked The Book of Common prayer and it’s part of the THE FORM OF SOLEMNIZATION OF MATRIMONY from the Church of England so Justin Welby would have to ask it during the ceremony.
It could be there is something there re: Trevor. And so the BS about a garden wedding was just to force the church to document they really were married on the 19th. I think though as others have said it was just a way to say FU and suggest they didn't want the big expensive wedding. Hogwash. I'm sure they could have had a tiny wedding but what about all the celebs?
The LibDems are a formal political party in the UK, originating from the alliance of the Liberal Party (a truly old party) and the Social Democrats (SDP) who broke from the Labour party about 40 years ago.
They are often successful in local politics but did very badly at the last GE.
@Maneki
I remember reading that the Queen
gives the final nod to all royal brides outfits.
She said no to Megs veil, no veil.
Megs acquiesced, and then turned up
in that monstrosity, complete with
copy cat Commonwealth flowers.
That’s part of the reason why
The Queen was not Amused at their wedding.
Yes, they absolutely could have had a small wedding (cost wise very arguably what the British tax payer would have preferred given the outlandish security costs of the day), this was what Megsy wanted. A small wedding wouldn’t have bought her the fanfare or attention. Didn’t she want Westminster as the venue but was refused?
From the minute she got the ring
on Harry’s nose, she wanted it all.
Was denied Westminster Abbey,
and the red carpet.
Poor thing, had to make do with
Windsor, and no carpet, after refusing
the blue.
Carriage ride through Windsor,
not quite London.
Endured a swift kiss on the church steps,
not BP balcony.
That’s how it goes when you marry the frog,
not the Prince.
Wow I never knew the Queen disapproved of Meghan’s bridal wear? Personally, I thought it looked awful on her. The sleeved boatneck reminded me of Michael Kors when he attempts to do ‘upscale chic’ in his Michael by Michael Kors line. Basically, what someone would wear thinking they were at an aristocratic garden party, but really they look like they are shopping at a Nordstrom for a Grandmother’s garden party :). If that makes sense? A wannabe dress is how I viewed it. Hated it, and the veil. She could have worn something much more beautiful for the event, like Kate did.
Bulldogged Drummed Out
It’s All Over, Red Rover
No more White Cliffs of Dover
As they’re hanging just above the abyss
Nowt left to score
For Haz, and his Chore
And the world is now taking the p.ss
@Jessica
Yes, I read that the Queen disapproved
Megs wearing a veil, never mind that said
veil included the Commonwealth flowers!
Can’t provide proof,
because much of what we’ve read before,
such as ELF resigning due to Megs,
has mysteriously disappeared?
I like how from this Oprah interview, this wedding fluff is what M/H are dancing backwards on first and compounding the lying about this. By lying some more of course.
Daniela Elser news.com.au
PART 1
Palace fights back in PR battle after Harry and Meghan’s explosive Oprah interview
The most famous book of military tactics, The Art of War, was written in the 5th century BC by Sun Tzu, but it’s starting to look like an equally devastating treatise on battlefield strategy is being written by royal courtiers in London.
In the weeks since Harry and Meghan’s history-making interview with Oprah Winfrey (and their allegations of royal indifference to her declining mental health and of racism), the palace’s response has seemingly been one of futile determination to minimise the scale of the crisis.
After all, Buckingham Palace took nearly two leaden days to put out a scant 61-word statement in response, saying the “concerning” issues the couple had raised would be “addressed by the family privately,” before the entire clutch of HRHs left proceeded to gamely get on with their packed schedules of remotely jollying along a shattered Britain.
The message they were attempting to send to the world was clear: That the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s outpouring was nothing more than a temper tantrum, all foot-stamping and finger-pointing; prime time sound and fury signifying nothing more than a ratings smash for CBS and a childish outpouring of perceived grievances. The adults in the (throne) room would sort out the mess.
All of which felt decidedly lacklustre, as if the royal family have spent the last few weeks pitifully clinging to their tried and tested “How to survive a PR disaster” guide that by now is dog-eared and yellowing from overuse. (Prince Andrew, much of the blame for this rests on you.)
Basically, it was starting to look like the royal family was out of their depth as the Sussexes’ nimbly outmanoeuvred the lumbering royal house.
Except now it looks like the House of Windsor might have been playing a far savvier and more cunning game all along, plotting and planning the sort of fightback that Tzu would have appreciated.
PART 2
The first, big clue came over the weekend when the Sunday Times published an extensive profile of Prince William called, tellingly, “The Other Brother.”
Written by the paper’s royal correspondent Roya Nikkhah, the piece was positively stuffed with quotes from a who’s who of big names, including former Conservative leader William Hague and Prince William’s former private secretary Miguel Head.
Mr Head shared far more personal and revelatory insights about the prince than any that have entered the public realm before.
None — absolutely none — of these people would have opened their mouths within yelling distance of a journalist and her trusty tape recorder without royal approval.
Next, William appeared in a video for Comic Relief saying that mental health is a subject “close to his heart”.
Meanwhile, Seyi Obakin, CEO of homeless charity Centrepoint of which William has been the patron for 15 years, took to the pages of the UK’s The Telegraph to combat the claims of royal racism, and talk about how they got to know one another while spending a night sleeping under a bridge.
Then came reports across the British press revealing that the palace is considering appointing a diversity chief, with royal sources putting it about the place that the move had already been in motion before Harry and Meghan’s Oprah blitzkrieg.
Starting to see a pattern here?
PART 3
Rather than parrying with the Sussexes and trying to directly land a few punches (metaphorically speaking of course), instead the palace has crafted a far more canny approach, having bided their time and made the decision to retaliate on their own terms. Rather than going on the defensive, they are primarily focused on going on the offensive.
Without uttering Harry and Meghan’s names, the palace seems to be working to neutralise their most damaging claims about mental health and racism, while simultaneously providing a stinging counterpoint to the Duke of Sussex’s version of 21st century, prime time emoting princedom.
Boosting William and buffing his halo not only stands the royal house in good stead for the future but carries with it an implicit criticism of his younger brother’s approach.
The unspoken message of much of the palace’s William-focused media onslaught seems to be, “This is what a Prince dedicated to duty and his country looks like, a man focused on hard work and not sulkily going on TV to gripe about his family for two hours.”
Similarly, in the narrative being pushed by the palace, to William the throne isn’t an onerous burden to be borne with resignation but a glittering opportunity to help create a better, modern Britain.
Notice that Charles does not factor into the palace’s version of The Art of War — we are not seeing glowing profiles of our next king or hearing his associates speak out to defend his egalitarian bonafides.
The world has barely heard a peep from the next-in-line to the throne aside from a rather tender image of the Prince of Wales with wife Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, that was posted to mark the first official day of spring.
PART 4
The palace has realised that it is the younger generations whose hearts and minds they crucially need to win over and who better than a conservation-focused king-in-waiting who (according to them) played a pivotal role in ending China’s export ivory trade? Who has slept under a bridge in the name of combating homelessness? Who has already decided he doesn’t want to preside over a chronic plaque-opening version of a royal family but wants to muck in and tackle things such as racism in football and mental health?
However, don’t think what we have seen over the weekend, this carefully calibrated round of media manoeuvring in the UK, is the totality of the palace’s pushback. Rather, this is the opening salvo in what could well be a protracted trans-Atlantic PR battle.
In April, William and his wife Kate, Duchess of Cambridge, will celebrate their ten-year wedding anniversary.
In May, the Queen will return to London for the opening of parliament for the first time since 2019. (Quick Jarvis, one needs one’s mace!)
While June’s Trooping the Colour has been cancelled for a second year in a row, an alternative event at Windsor Castle is being considered — the same month Ascot will take place, albeit socially distanced.
At all of the events — perennially red letter engagements in royal calendars — expect to see a concerted and vigorous campaign to push the image of a unified royal family, the message being that Megxit and its aftershocks are nothing but a piffling trifle which has not swayed the royal house from their course one jot.
We can also expect to see both William and Kate rolled out with even more gusto and regularity. While the couple, who are the only working members of the royal family under the age of 55 years old, have been shouldering responsible for giving the monarchy a touch of youthful verve (“youthful” being a comparative term in the royal world) since Harry and Meghan traded Windsor the sunnier climes of Montecito, I think we will see more of their heartwarming double act.
This is what I've been dwelling on since I heard the news about Catherine St Laurent. What do these splashy, high-powered appointees DO all day, working for the Sussexes? Whose only visible output seems to be grandiose announcements followed by a damp squib.
Well, those toilets at Montecito ain't gonna clean themselves! (Not that I think that they actually live there, because I don't.) She probably had her sanitizing the baby bumps, washing the wigs and hanging them out to dry, doing the laundry, delivering and picking up the dry cleaning, picking up groceries, IOW doing whatever menial tasks that needed doing. Meghan can't be out in public with the hoi polloi herself; what if people followed her back to where she *really* lives?
PART 5
Last week (hardly a coincidence), it was a noticeably playful William and Kate who appeared in a St Patrick’s Day video.
Expect to start seeing more of this human, real version of royalty that could not be further from the gloved-hand-waving-from-a-Rolls version of royalty that has long been the standard.
Ditto their children, Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis. While the Cambridges have always doggedly guarded the privacy of their brood, the last year has seen the trio of adorable HRHs appear even more in public via carefully planned social media outings. (Seeing five-year-old Charlotte in a video asking David Attenborough if liked spiders might have done far more for the cause of monarchy than a decade worth of Princess Anne opening home counties rec centres.)
Again, while any outing would be stage-managed and painstakingly choreographed, the royal family wants the public focus to be on these younger generations of Windsors.
Make no mistake: We are just seeing the beginnings of this propaganda fight.
So, while Tzu might have written, “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”, the palace courtiers’ strategy appears to be more along the lines of “the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without appearing once on a patio with Oprah”.
If anyone inside the place is taking notes they could have a bestseller on their hands.
*******
That was a nightmare to paste! Kept including captions etc. even when I meticulously avoided including them. Only worked pasting paragraph by paragraph. It's a long article but worth including I think. I pasted it as the last free access article I linked to (the Guardian) was then pasted in entirely by a fellow Nutty, so I'm wondering if people prefer to read it all here. Anyway, I won't be doing this again in a hurry! :-)
Stirred but not Shaken
Shut all the doors
Demanded Philip, Zut alors!
You’ve taken Queen and country
With guile, and effrontery
You’re lacking in much, more
than in mores...
My college aged daughter was initially indifferent to Meghan Markle and couldn't understand why she was so disliked. It was after seeing parts of the Oprah interview, reading about it, learning about the British monarchy, etc., that she understands the dislike.
In fact, she had a two and a half hour video call with other kids her age who believe the narrative that MM and Oprah have tried to spin.
I think I understand now why she now has so many supporters. The biggest takeaway from my daughter's discussion was that, although they themselves don't like Meghan Markle, they believe her narrative because her 'white' husband is sitting next to her and supporting her.
Hardly appropriate for Megs then.
LOL. Takes me back to the times I had to buy presents for wives, collect prescriptions, go to homes to find things they'd lost etc. etc. I even had to spend a solid week reformatting, making a PhD thesis look better for a relative of my boss. That was the last straw. I can never watch The Devil Wears Prada. As they say these days, it triggers me!
I expect we've all seen that photo of the stony look on the Queen's face as she looks at Meghan by the altar. You really couldn't get greater defiance than that. The length of the veil! What Meghan is doing to the Queen now is yet more of what we saw that day. Zero respect. Mind boggling.
Thanks Ava C
Much appreciated. I didn’t realise how much work goes
into copy/pasting etc. Thank you, and JennS etc. X
"Somebody mentioned the Liberal Democrats—was that you? The organization that plucked a 20 something bartender out of one of the working class New York boroughs and Got her elected to the United States Congress."
The Liberal Democrats is a political party in the UK.
You are confusing it with the Justice Democrats, a political organisation in the US originally started by progressives in the Democrative party.
Young people have so many problems at the moment I'm amazed they have ANY sympathy for the Sussexes. I'm really interested to try and understand their outlook as they seem so different. When I was their age in the early 1980s I was protesting about nuclear weapons and Mrs Thatcher and UK mass unemployment was worse than now, proportionally speaking, so we had our own huge issues. However I don't remember being as vulnerable and idealistic as young people now. It was grittier then. Of course it's just my view.
When I was my niece's age Charles and Diana's wedding took place. I didn't resent the wealth of the monarchy on display that day, despite living in a rough area of the north-east, because they were so distant. The monarchy was just THERE. Unchanging. It was part of national life. I DID resent the endless carryings-on and sheer drama of Princess Diana, years later. I just wanted her to get on with her job, which she did superbly when her mind wasn't focused on causing trouble and playing to the gallery. Older Nutties may remember how badly she behaved on that tour to South Korea. She behaved like a sulking five-year-old. A national embarrassment. I wanted to smack her. I feel the same about Harry now, however incorrect that may be these days.
"According to multiple web sources, a divorced person has to provide a copy of the decree absolute (not decree nisi) before applying to be married in the COE. Perhaps this was skipped for Harry's bride but I don't think as a rule the church depends on people speaking up at the "show just cause" part of the ceremony to avoid bigamous marriages."
I'll add that The Queen's consent isn't just verbal. It has to be written and made public otherwise no marriage.
Her written consent is given after discussion with the privy council which is a council of our high level politiciahs, military and Judiciary.
One could argue that it is a rubber stamping exercise, but it isn't given without the proper supporting documents especially when it was already a proven fact at the engagement that Meghan was a divorcee.
The written consent is given months after the official engagement.
Without the written consent, there can be no marriage.
Harry and Meghan's written consent was given by the privy council on 14th March 2018.
https://www.royal.uk/instrument-consent
Blogger Magatha Mistie said...
Thanks Ava C
Much appreciated. I didn’t realise how much work goes
into copy/pasting etc. Thank you, and JennS etc. X
My gracious me, where have my manners flown to? Thanks for the reminder, Magatha Mistie. Yes, indeed, thanks so much to Ava C and JennS and all the others that labor so diligently to give us copies of the articles so that they can be discussed.
Just wanted to share with all Nutties:
My college aged daughter was initially indifferent to Meghan Markle and couldn't understand why she was so disliked. It was after seeing parts of the Oprah interview, reading about it, learning about the British monarchy, etc., that she understands the dislike.
In fact, she had a two and a half hour video call with other kids her age who believe the narrative that MM and Oprah have tried to spin.
I think I understand now why she now has so many supporters. The biggest takeaway from my daughter's discussion was that, although they themselves don't like Meghan Markle, they believe her narrative because her 'white' husband is sitting next to her and supporting her.
Heh. I was wondering if he had an electroshock device attached to his genitals to ensure his compliance.
I wrote a post yesterday I didn't actually put here in the end, about how I was worried that I was seeing an equal number of stories saying that Charles was leading the response and that William was. I remembered reading that royal households are in perpetual rivalry, even though their principals are close relatives, even fathers and sons. The rivalry never stops.
So I have been worried this will splinter their common front against the Sussexes, over time. Charles, as we know, is very edgy about anyone else on his turf. For me, William doesn't have the baggage his father does. He didn't have a damaging interview in front of millions of people as his father did with Jonathan Dimbleby. He never had an excruciatingly embarrassing conversation with his mistress played in full by the Sun newspaper for anyone who wanted to hear it. William has maintained an iron privacy, got on with his job, has a strong marriage and happy family, so he is the one to lead the response here.
William's mere existence tells us, here is the OTHER brother, who suffered even more as he was older and went all through his parents' breakup. Diana essentially deprived him of a childhood by leaning on him and not trying to hide the worst of her distress. Yet William has surmounted all this. The road Harry is taking is the one he has chosen. It doesn't have to be this way. Harry has nothing to teach people except what to avoid.
So yes, the more William leads the better it is here. Leading by example. No need to deal with the Medusa over the sea and her slave boy.
That's why many spouses of extremely wealthy individuals flock to the UK to file their divorces because they can set aside their prenups.
Secondly, the royal families of Europe and UK keep their money in ironclad trusts that divorces can't touch.
Tessy of Luxemborg tried to use the family wealth for her divorce settlement and the Judge reiterated and reinforced this fact.
Meghan can't touch Harry's trustfunds even if she sues him for her share under equitable lifestyle divorce rules unless he specifically gives her that money out of the kindness of his heart.
Any money they make together that is specifically outside his royal trusts is a shared pot. The Netflix and Spotify deals are in her best interest because those fall outside the trusts. If she was foolish to add them to his trusts then she's an idiot.
Just to add, how did black eyed Megs mafioso granny image fit into any PR strategy on the Oprah royal freak show, masquerading as an Interview. It sort of blows my simple girl next door theory out the window. Perhaps it was a granny next door image she was after.
Well, the granny that wanted to roast Hansel and Gretel in the oven for dinner, maybe.
@Maneki Neko -
re Thorn & Eth - yes, they were in Old English, aka Anglo Saxon, as well.
I normally `insert' when working in Word but couldn't think how to achieve it here.
Ans. Draft in Word, then C+P.
How about these: Breiđermurkursandur; Þingholtstræti
Old American maps used `dh' for `ð' - mostly in English a `d' without a bar has to function for it, also Google doesn't recognise it.
To say nothing of Leðurblökumaðurinn -
Whereas most other European languages call Batman `Batman', that's Batman in Icelandic!
`...now ask me why I haven't learned Icelandic'. (Credit to an image on Google that eludes me now)
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2mps2n/til_that_batman_is_called_le%C3%B0urbl%C3/%B6kuma%C3%B0urinn_in
Icelandic is pronounced according to Icelandic rules- eg `k' before `l' is a `p' ie `Keflavik' (main airport) is `Keplavik', which means the volcano called Krafla sounds unfortunate to English ears!
Hillary is a mafiosa granny. I don't know that she ever spends unsupervised time with her grandchildren. If she does, they probably feed her raw meat in advance so that she isn't hungry.
I wonder how MM reacted to the news of Bea & Jack's wedding? It pulls the rug from under her `forced grand do' narrative.
I think that is one of the things that we aren't supposed to notice...
about not even getting married in UK at all. Nothing to do with Covid, even though H$M would say it did.
Also. I am not a fan of veils in general, I think they look ridiculous and detract from the gown. M was especially ugly because it was so big. I did like the simple dress style. It would have been better if it actually fit. White roses in the the hair or just the tiara like Eugenie did would have made so much more of a statement. Less is more.
@Ava C
It’s worrying if there are two camps,
Charles v William.
I feel Charles has earned his chops,
not just through his trusts etc,
but for the fact that he was born to be King.
His life, from birth, was pre determined,
would be cruel to deny him this.
Wills, I’m sure, is happy to wait.
Charles and Camilla's wedding was the perfect model for his younger son's wedding to a divorcee - discreet civil marriage in Windsor Register Office, followed by a private ceremony `of Prayer and Dedication' in St George's. In the eyes of the Church, Charles was in the clear, with no previous wife still living, the bride was the divorcee. The same went for Harry.
I imagine that any suggestion of following the same pattern was greeted with expletive-laden derision. Hence, Wallis's car and the rumoured warning to the usual Royal catering firms that they should suddenly find themselves fully booked that weekend, before any official enquiry was made.
I wonder if the evening guests were greeted by a pay bar, as so often happens at parties in pubs these days? At least they got a `Buddha bowl'.
Exactly, I remember that about the veil, yet as usual Megs did what she wanted. So now they're claiming they didn't want a big do. Sure! Their pants must be on fire!
Further to the story about the veil, I seem to recall that the Queen didn't want Megsy to wear pure white as she was a divorcee. Once again, Megalo did as she pleased and wore a white than white dress (should have used it to advertise Persil or Ariel).
Blogger Magatha Mistie said...
@Ava C
It’s worrying if there are two camps,
Charles v William.
I feel Charles has earned his chops,
not just through his trusts etc,
but for the fact that he was born to be King.
His life, from birth, was pre determined,
would be cruel to deny him this.
Wills, I’m sure, is happy to wait.
I doubt that William is rudely kicking Charles aside; it was probably a strategic move on the RFs part to let William take the lead. After all, it is his family that has been suffering. Charles and the Queen can continue to refuse to take his calls re money.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-harry-is-taking-on-a-new-job-title-chief-impact-officer-at-betterup-11616500802?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Hf6LDbRMjU
@Maneki
Their arses are on fire!
@Swampie
I agree, strategic move, Wills will win!
Thank you much for supplying that news.com.au article. (at about 12:28PM, 23 March, for those reading later). One of the best I’ve ever read. I like the content on William, and certainly hope this really is part of their new strategy for the war against the Harkle onslaught of lies and threats.
It occurred to me while reading that The Long, Long Veil might be an appropriate title for a future exposè in the Sunday Times Magazine, given her trail of deceit, sliding like a long white snake over the ancient stones of the monarchy.
✨✨********✨✨
@JennS,
And thanks to you for giving us the Valentine Low article about the lates too Archewell upheaval. I zeroed in on the fact that the departing Catherine St-Laurent plans to start her own non-profit......suggests to me she must love being in the non-profit world but found something amiss with the Harkles’ company-non-profit version of one, in spite of all the name attention it was getting. Maybe she realized it was just a slush fund for the spend-y Megs.
Though I always find it telling that people think they need to start more and more of these nonprofits, which dilutes the impact of existing organizations somewhat. The handful of people I know who started one, some of whom I helped with free work as they launched, either due so to aid a very specific small unserved need, or told me they were put off by the corruption and useless expensive management layers in their previous larger non-profit jobs.
@Acquitaine: I believe Harry currently receives some money, the equivalent of a couple hundred thousand dollars a year, which I am guessing are the annual dividends from the invested amount of his trust fund from Diana. From what I’ve read, he has access to the whole amount at 40.
Meghan can easily spend the amount of Harry’s annual trust fund allowance on shoes and high-end wine with some blow to help keep her weight down, but if they are still married in September 2024 when he turns 40, she will make sure that money is quickly spent too.
Narcissists are experts at tapping into the funds of their victims. As soon as the principal of the trust fund is accessible, she will tap into it.
I have a friend who was with a narc for three or four years. He was able to talk his way into getting access to her accounts. He gave her a magnificent whopper of an engagement ring that was quite impressive.
It was impressive until she discovered he bought it with HER money.
Even if she wants to bail out of the marriage in 3 1/2 years, she’ll hang on just long enough and get Harry to move Diana's money to a financial vehicle she can access.
However, I think their deformed marriage will limp along for a minimum off 7 to 10 years if not a lifetime. That title is everything to Meghan and it is unlikely she would be allowed to keep it or any of the lesser titles grated at the marriage because unlike Diana and Sarah, Meghan is not a British citizen or a citizen of The Commonwealth.
(My guess is she does not hold a British passport and still travels using a US passport because she is not a resident, did not reside in the UK long enough, and never became a British citizen. After all, she never intended to make her life in the UK, so why bother? The marriage was solely a snatch-and-grab operation to get the title, have a quick baby, and run back to the US with Harry on tow to provide an operating platform for herself.)
Harry is too stubborn to admit to himself, his family, the UK public and the world that he made a massive mistake in spite of the reservations expressed by William and his closest friends. The only things I see that could shorten their marriage is massive financial problems. And of course, Meghan would blame Harry and exit, sticking him with all the debt. In a divorce, her attorneys would perform all sorts of legal gymnastics to allow Meghan to retain her title.
Of course I did. Thank you for pointing it out.
@Ava C
I loved Camilla’s wedding outfits, perfect.
As for Meghan’s, used tissues pushed
back in the box.
It was impressive until she discovered he bought it with HER money.
Reminds me of Elizabeth Taylor's disgust when Eddie Fisher bought her a gorgeous yellow diamond ring and earrings to entice her away from Richard Burton (among my favourites of all her jewels) and then she discovered she'd paid for them herself.
Re. Justice Democrats
You are right and I mistyped. Had 'liberal Democrat' on the brain. Thanks for the correction.
Love that story of your mother trying to sew the gowns with little children about! Probably terrifying but also seems like it may have imparted a sweet energy into each creation. 💕
My grandmother and her sisters ran two of their own dress shops in Europe, making dresses, coats, suits, and gowns. Your comment reminds me that my grandmother would have been appalled by the fit of Megs’ gown (I know my mother was!) and would have bemoaned Megs constant choice of ill-fitting bras. My grandmother believed the wrong undergarments and poor posture could destroy the finest wardrobe. The proof: Megs!
Side note: even though she was about 80 when I was born, she managed to sew exquisite, highly detailed clothes for me and for my my dolls until she had a debilitating stroke when I was 7. I loved sitting next to her as she explained fabric quality and color or print choices, stitching merits, etc. I loved going through her boxes of extravagant buttons (she was still making elegant evening coats, and suits etc.). I am sure I was the only little schoolchild In my group of friends walking around in embroidered fine silk undergarments, and running around playing games outside in little Chanel-style jackets over my play clothes. I still have some of the clothing and marvel at the work. Before me, she’d made a lace over silk satin fitted cocktail sheath for my godmother, plus a full length gown with matching coat, for a week of dinner events associated with the movie premiere of Lawrence of Arabia. I wore the cocktail dress to a few events myself in my 20s/30s. The craftsmanship of that dress makes me understand why those who can indulge prefer bespoke clothing.
I can’t even imagine how your mother made those dresses in her bungalow with children about, because you know she was aware of every delicate detail. But how wonderful that she managed it.
https://www.betterup.com/en-us/about-us/leadership-team
I look back on the 1980s as a golden age. Not that at the time I was happy with Mrs Thatcher but at least she stood up for her country (her covering with the Union flag of the models of the tails of the BA planes being a powerful visual instance of this). The 1980s which seemed to have happy popular music (as had the sixties) were not stuffy as had been the 1950s or depressed like the 1970s (and the same went for 70s music) but neither was it a time as now where one cannot write a letter without the risk of being accused of being a terrible person for having normal views and where even a joke will give one a criminal record and a spell in Gaol, all the while being prevented from leaving ones home, or having a job, and where if one goes for a walk and sits down one will be arrested (I have observed this). What have we come to, especially when a grifter like Markle and her unpleasant husband are able to constantly wrongfoot our Monarchy.
It’s worrying if there are two camps,
Charles v William.
I feel Charles has earned his chops,
not just through his trusts etc,
but for the fact that he was born to be King.
His life, from birth, was pre determined,
would be cruel to deny him this.
Wills, I’m sure, is happy to wait.
I was just musing that Charles has gone completely underground since we saw him leaving King Edward's Hospital teary-eyed.
Then Clarence House came out with this delightful photo of the next King and his consort, on the heels of 'The Other Brother' story on William . . a gentle reminder perhaps that William is not quite next in line yet.
https://www.womanandhome.com/us/life/royal-news/did-you-spot-this-surprising-detail-in-prince-charles-and-camillas-home-photo/
The Royals are participating in 'Check in and Chat' and the photo accompanied C&C's glimpse into their private life at home. It's a really great picture. One feels that, regardless of what is happening around him, and despite the public's very lukewarm enthusiasm for his (still eventual) Kingship--at 72 years old, Charles is happy.
If he's taken his profile down considerably in the wake of Oprahgate, this is no doubt him falling on his figurative sword for the good of the Firm. William is the more effective PR weapon against the Sussex onslaught. Even though Charles walked Mugs down the aisle in the stead of her father, found the black choir, arranged the wedding reception (and paid for it) and has been the visible face of welcome to Meg in the BRF (even bestowing upon her, in the best upper-class British tradition), an affectionate nickname (rofl), he's lumped in with the racists. He is also, unfortunately, at least half responsible for the human walking mess that is Harry. Best for him to lie low while William the Photogenic takes point.
Also William is the living rebuttal of Harry's claims that being born a Royal hostage in an uncaring, unfeeling 'Instititution' and losing his mum at a vulnerable age has made it impossible for him to thrive and do sod all with his life. The message is: I am Diana's son, too, and I am proud to be a Royal. I have dealt with my pain and I'm moving into the future for Britain. Two brothers; two responses to the same profound loss and expectations of duty--one a rousing success; one a resounding failure.
The BRF needs to keep hitting on that message. They don't need to deny anything the Sussexes say if they can keep calm, carry on, and show the polar opposite to Harry's whining and abandoned loyalties. Showing, not telling.
Aww, you know Catherine (I need to work on that too!) is probably so thrilled to meet her sister’s new baby. What a charming little pack of friends the Cambridge and Matthews children will probably be...along with the children of Zara and Mike. What a loss for Archie, if he exists.
A friend sent me an email a few days ago that I just read today: fresh rumors Catherine might be pregnant are flying around, per my friend’s group of colleagues andvcontacts in the women’s clothing businesses in the UK, I doubt they are right but we’ll see.
Maybe far fetched but I will chuck this in the wedding mix anyway. There were rumours that the BRF got Megs to sign a Prenup Agreement at the last minute just before the wedding. Perhaps Megs dragged Harry off to marry him in secret in the garden with Welby and the ghost of Diana as a witness before she signed the prenup. Megs not being as intelligent as she makes out she is thought by having Welby there the head of the CofE the marriage was legitimised.
Best theory so far, considering Mm's devious, lying, sneaky ways.
If true that they're not legal in the UK, mm wouldn't have known that. Just like she didn't know H had not much cash or a castle to his name.
Reminds me of Elizabeth Taylor's disgust when Eddie Fisher bought her a gorgeous yellow diamond ring and earrings to entice her away from Richard Burton (among my favourites of all her jewels) and then she discovered she'd paid for them herself.
@Ava C: That’s right! I wasn’t old enough to remember Elizabeth Taylor being married to Eddie Fisher. I wasn’t really aware of her until the 80s, when she was hanging out with Michael Jackson and then married Larry Fortensky the construction worker she met in rehab at Betty Ford, but your response jogged my memory of reading about Fisher gifting her those jewels. The Taylor-Fisher marriage only lasted about five years.
Harry will be extremely lucky if he only wastes five of his prime years of life on Meghan, but by then he’ll likely be such an emotional wreck that he’ll need to have a psychiatrist on speed dial. Ditto for those two children stuck with these two breeders as parents.
Agreed.
As the author of the article posted by @AvaC pointed out, offense is better than defense now. William is a superb offense weapon now, on all the grounds you’ve covered.
My cousin swears that Harry’s next wife will be an aging Venice beach “psychic” so he can nestle in and “talk to mommy” every day.
😬
@WBBM
To conclude the OT posts about Iceland (my fault!), did you watch Trapped (2 series) on BBC4 a couple of years ago? No available on iPlayer any more (I just checked) but I believe it's available on Amazon Prime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapped_(Icelandic_TV_series)
Seriously though- Chief Impact Officer? How embarassing! lol!
No, the marriage is still legally valid, but he (and his descendants) would or could lose his place in the succession.
Imagine the firestorm if her Maj had withheld her consent. And half of those people are now clamoring the removal of their dukedumb.
@Hikari
Keep Buggering on!
@HappyDays,
My cousin swears that Harry’s next wife will be an aging Venice beach “psychic” so he can nestle in and “talk to mommy” every day.
@AnT: Thank you for my morning chuckle.
Thinking of Meghan, with her colouring she could have looked good with a simple dress and a high, properly structured non-wispy updo with a small, delicate tiara, I guess a bit like Audrey Hepburn when she went to the ball in My Fair Lady, although it seems sacrilege to mention her in the same breath as Meghan, especially because with that style you need a profile to go with it. Is it true you can't have updos like that with extensions? They have to be lower? Meghan needed a better hairdresser and makeup artist that day. A bit of old-time glamour. She could have looked so much better.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-harry-is-taking-on-a-new-job-title-chief-impact-officer-at-betterup-11616500802?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Hf6LDbRMjU
It's not behind a firewall and the comments are 100%, well, they could have come from here, let's say.
Do read the "job description". And do read the comments!
Oh yes, the spin! We all remember how much she wanted to the big over-the-top wedding, the tiara, PC walking her down the aisle after her "brave" solo walk in the beginning. The carriage ride around Windsor, etc.
All I can think about as I read your post was the article that was posted yesterday--thank you to the poster--about how narcs lie all the time. So true.
I hope they never recover from that whine fest of an interview. They have all been tainted by the BS--OW, GK, H&M. How they ever thought that was a good idea is beyond me. Meanwhile OW is laughing all the way to the bank.
Because upsetting MM would be the reason Catherine got pregnant. LOL
My late step-monster ran up over $200k in credit card debt behind my father's back--after years of ridiculing her own sister for doing the same thing. Before he found out, most of his capital was lost to margin calls in 2008-9 because he'd borrowed against it to pay her other bills. I thought she was squirreling money away somewhere, but we only found a couple hundred in cash in her papers.
I just went back and read every one of the comments. You'd be hard put to find a positive one about him. Thanks for reminding us to take a look at them.
Would anyone expect him to help you improve your mental health? And I'm shocked he managed to land a job! I've only read the first paragraph, I'll read the rest now.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9393225/Prince-Harry-gets-job-San-Francisco-based-mental-health-firm-Better-Up.html
Young people have so many problems at the moment I'm amazed they have ANY sympathy for the Sussexes. I'm really interested to try and understand their outlook as they seem so different. When I was their age in the early 1980s I was protesting about nuclear weapons and Mrs Thatcher and UK mass unemployment was worse than now, proportionally speaking, so we had our own huge issues. However I don't remember being as vulnerable and idealistic as young people now. It was grittier then. Of course it's just my view.
When I was my niece's age Charles and Diana's wedding took place. I didn't resent the wealth of the monarchy on display that day, despite living in a rough area of the north-east, because they were so distant. The monarchy was just THERE. Unchanging. It was part of national life. I DID resent the endless carryings-on and sheer drama of Princess Diana, years later. I just wanted her to get on with her job, which she did superbly when her mind wasn't focused on causing trouble and playing to the gallery. Older Nutties may remember how badly she behaved on that tour to South Korea. She behaved like a sulking five-year-old. A national embarrassment. I wanted to smack her. I feel the same about Harry now, however incorrect that may be these days.
@Ava C, my daughter and I thoroughly enjoyed reading your comment. It was extremely relatable. The world feels too complicated now, my daughter says.
*
Heh. I was wondering if he had an electroshock device attached to his genitals to ensure his compliance.
@SwampWoman, my daughter and I really did laugh out loud while reading your reply. I cannot comprehend why Prince is doing this.
Oh my goodness, the dresses your mother made for that bride sound exquisite. The fabric alone! Stunning choices! And to think of your mother doing the button work down the back of the gown....perfection. Ah, that is true skill. I can imagine it all worn by the beautiful bride you described. Thank you for sharing this story. 💕
My favorite comment:
Translation: he'll get paid a boatload of money to hang around and schmooze with officers and clients of the corporation.
Actual "impact" - zero.
copy & past
https://www.lipstickalley.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2F64.media.tumblr.com%2F8bc22b18a3549663e41d1d78b3df3eb9%2Fd4ad19788f5f790f-e9%2Fs250x400%2F326e66e096dfba38333189a67fa04ed07e917297.gifv&hash=ac9687610552d48ddaa2450842a519d9
Explaining why he has taken the job, Harry told the Wall Street Journal in a suitably corporate response: 'I intend to help create impact in people's lives. Proactive coaching provides endless possibilities for personal development, increased awareness, and an all-round better life'.
He added: 'This is about acknowledging that it isn't so much what is wrong with us, but more about what has happened to us over the course of life. Often because of societal barriers, financial difficulty, or stigma, too many people aren't able to focus on their mental health until they're forced to. I want us to move away from the idea that you have to feel broken before reaching out for help'.
The company's boss Alexi Robichaux says that Harry is an ideal fit for this latest 'meaty role'.
...
A statement on the company's website said: 'Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex is a humanitarian, military veteran, mental wellness advocate, and environmentalist.
'As co-founder of Archewell, he is focused on driving systemic change across all communities through non-profit work as well as creative activations.
I still don't see how he can be qualified to help in the field of mental health. He couldn't even help wifey when she was made so unhappy by his own family!
Not only that but he's pig-ignorant and a gullible, childish, uneducated thrower of tantrums.
This company (can't be bothered to look up the name) is lucky I'm not on the hiring committee or executive board of any potential clients.
Lol! Yes! Of course it would alllllllll be about “getting back at” Megs, what better reason to have a baby? Sadly that would be the sugar line if Catherine ever has another.
@AvaC,
I worked with a man once who said when he was started out in advertising, working here and there as he finished his schooling and gained studio experience, he had a gig as a part-time, fill-in limo driver. Somehow he was assigned one day to fetch Elizabeth Taylor from her hotel during her Little Foxes run, and she liked him so much (he was handsome, funny, sweet and charming when I knew him about ten or 12 years later) and she kept requesting him as her driver. She also loved that he could give her B12 injections in the limo every evening before they left for the theatre! He said he learned how to do basic vitamin and fluid injections at his other part time job at an uncle’s veterinarian clinic but never expected it would come in handy in quite this way! He said she was funny, charming, beautiful, and told him a million stories during his short employment with her. You are so fortunate that you got to see her on stage!
Have you ever seen Megs give Doria the "stare"? this is a first for me. Here is the link to the video - hope it works.
copy & past
https://www.lipstickalley.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2F64.media.tumblr.com%2F8bc22b18a3549663e41d1d78b3df3eb9%2Fd4ad19788f5f790f-e9%2Fs250x400%2F326e66e096dfba38333189a67fa04ed07e917297.gifv&hash=ac9687610552d48ddaa2450842a519d9
--------------------------------------
Nice find
Yep and California may be a community property state but his Diana trust is not considered part of it. if anything in a divorce he gets half of what they earned (but not spent!) while in the US.
Harry's trust from Diana was drawn up in the UK. It is administered in the the UK. Megalo-Maniac cannot touch it in a divorce. But Harry can withdraw from it at age 40, so they say. Megs can get her grubby little paws on this money.
Yes, he is emotionally stunted and that's why I fail to see how he is in any way qualified for the job. Ah yes, his lost his mother too! Thanks for reminding me, I'm not sure many people know!;)
In the period before he married and then, later, left, his Royal Family role, Harry's palace staff referred to him as "The Hostage."
Kinda disappointed GameStop is looking for execs Harry strikes me as a gamer type
"The prince, who says he has been using BetterUp's app since January, began talks with them about a role last Autumn after being introduced to USC graduate Mr Robichaux 'through a mutual friend'".
*******************
Considering Harry's increasingly odd behavior and his looking like a hostage, I don't think it was the best idea that Harry mention that he's been using their mental health app since January! Oh, I am laughing so hard.
Can you imagine Harry, with his little, but empty, briefcase and his one, wrinkled tan suit, toddling of to work every morning? LOL!
I'm sure that MM is gleefully thinking up all of the evil things that she can do while Harry is out of the house. Is Harry going to drive himself to LA to work, or is he going to take a helicopter or plane to work? What about his bodyguards? Will The Harkles need to double up on PPOs, one for Harry at work and one or two for Megs and Archie?
I'm just sitting here laughing that Harry thinks this is a real job. He doesn't get any employees and will basically just hang around the office until they wheel him out for the next puppetshow.
Harry had better watch out. MM may just find a richer man while he's off doing his mental health song and dance. When the cat's away...
Megsy wanted a long veil
Alas, this was a fail
The Queen said 'no way'
Meg said go away
Her dress was dazzling white
We knew it wasn't right
The Queen said no
Nothing would stop Megalo
Megs is a fake ingénue
Just a common parvenue
Looking for the big prize
Tried to pull the wool over our eyes
But we are Nutties Flavor Blog
We are all agog
To know what will happen
When they release the kraken 😉
`I clean the windows and I sweep the floor,
And I polish up the handle on the big front door'?
(apologies to WS Gilbert)
What a small small small world.
Let’s just say I know someone who knows Harry’s new boss from a past job. A nice bubbly sort of flaky young privileged US California-Dallas guy who was forced as a young teen to live in England for a few years with his family, hated it as a rainy sad place, came back and was into coding, got into a couple of tech jobs in Silicon Valley, quit the second job from stress and feeling lost, took time off got some therapy and came up with this idea to help people who work at various companies...... I suppose they bonded over being lost and daddy money and miserable yucky wet England and their mutual Stanford pals and his work is hard and humble-bragging?
Because they sell their app to corporations to help employees, not sure how Harry has any skill set of any type for this in any way. Just another funnel of backer money is my guess. Oh the lucky lucky Harkles! Untalented, whiny, bitter and lazy 40 year olds dependent upon daddy and grafting and lawsuits and attacking their families and unleashing horrific troll bots and doxxing ,....the Perfect CV! 🤮
Harry’s new erm job lol Exactly your comment....he told Oprah he was too scared to say anything to anyone about Megsy health issues. Gosh emotionally stunted and scared witless. As Pantsface correctly states he’s nothing but a mascot, a joke one at that.
No, Harry, as chief "impact" officer, will be thrown against the wall by staff to see if he will stick. The meetings will discuss velocity upon impact. That should help everybody's mental health.
I'm getting a mental image of Harry being repeatedly thrown at a velcro wall.
@Maneki Neko - Last one then.
We watched the first `Trapped' (filmed in Siglufjorđur on the N coast although supposedly in Seyđisfjorđur on the E coast. Seyđisfjorđur is the town at the very end of the skateboard descent in the Walter Mitty remake. It has also appeared in various skyr ads. We've been to both.
Thanks for the tip about the 2nd `Trapped'.
Glad to hear the YouTube 1.25/1.5 playback speed is working for your Lady C videos, omg I agree it is SUCH a timesaver (!!) and I'm thrilled y'all are enjoying this trick.
She's an absolute delight and I love watching her laugh over something naughty somebody writes and she says "OOOHHHHHH DearWriter, you are such a CARD!" and then she hoots her long laughs. Man she speaks slowly in real time.
ANYWAY - I wanted to share a post with you from my Facebook haterade group where we also bash on MM for funsies. It's really a hobby.
Someone named Tina posted this insightful comment:
Sadly Diana loved and hated the press, she was happy to use them at times, and they are the last people to throw your hat in with in her position. She may have disliked the grey suits of the palace, but they would have kept her safer than the cocaine addict boyfriend she put her trust in.
Interestingly, Diana refused Royal security, this was a huge mistake, and now Harry is whining that he has no royal security! Harry is really angry at himself, and, I suspect at MM as well, but he has channeled all his bitterness and anger sideways at everyone else.
He is jealous of his family, and of what William and Catherine have. It has the touch of a Greek tragedy. He has nowhere to really call home, no family, no true friends, no respect from his vile wife, no respect from the public and no way out. He looks like a caged animal being poked with a stick, and his keeper is mm.
Great inside tea! The two exec officers look like they need a good smack across the face. They look like two entitled little bit*hes who need a good scolding.
Interesting that one of the corporations that they work with is Chevron. Where's Harry, the environmentalist? Oh, he's being paid, so to hell with the environment, huh, Harry?
I don't know why I think this is so funny! I've been laughing since I woke up this morning and saw the headlines.
https://mobile.twitter.com/richardaeden?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
From the betterup website.
Everyone is senior, top-tier management - chief, director, head, vice president ...!
Is it possible this "job" could be that pair's way of trying to re-write history to worm out of the bullying allegations?
Those two probably think if Harry manages to land a chief sockwasher job in a company helping employees, the great unwashed will assume he's fully qualified for keeping employees happy so therefore any claims that their staff were unhappy must be false.
YouTube at a faster playback speed has changed my life for the better and I am forever grateful. 💕
Meghan unmasked; losing supporters; Oedipus Harry/Piers Morgan/Sharon Osborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsN60MKvPA4
Is he the example of what NOT to do for mental health?
He could not seem to help his wife when she desperately needed help....
He has struggled to help himself with his own mental health issues....as the public sees everyday. With hostage videis and lashing iut at his country, family, and anyone that will listen.
Its nice he finally has a cushy job (very well paid?) as a result of his priveledged status and circumstances.
But when will he have time to work with his podcast, netflix, and archewell full time jobs?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-harry-is-taking-on-a-new-job-title-chief-impact-officer-at-betterup-11616500802
Just as the Chevron involvement suggests `greenwashing'.
----------------------
Badly fitting wedding dress - that reminds me.
I had one bridesmaid 1st time round. Mum made her dress, having been a professional. As far as we were aware, everything was fine, with final check about a week earlier. On the big day though, the bridemaid's dress fitted as badly as MM's did.
Mum was furious - tight-lipped and through gritted teeth she hissed `I got that dress fitting perfectly! The little monkey's let it out!'
Bridesmaid later emerged as a full-blown narc. Was it, in both cases, a matter of `F- you!'
Do they not do their due diligence before signing on?
Do they just take the job because they think it'll be cool working for royalty and don't really look into what they will actually be doing?
They seem to come into their jobs blind. Unaware of the taint of the Harkles.
Unaware that the Harkles are nothing and nobody, no money, no gravitas, and are widely mocked.
You would expect that high and people would be doing a lot of due diligence and not be leaping blindly into a job.
Makes you wonder if the Harkles are overselling their jobs. These people don't seem to realise that they are just glorified dog walkers.
They seem to think they are walking into a job with the cache of working for the Obamas for example, or the Gates's. Which couldn't be further from the truth.
What is with these companies and their desperate advertising gimmicks lol
We also have the suspect "waffle" comment that was probably cross-advertising for MO's Waffles & Mochi show. Eventually, we will figure out where the crocodile comment fits.
@Sandie,
Oooh will go look at the BetterUp site in a minute! I wonder if they will include Harry the Impacter at some point, in his crap gray suit.
I heard the story about Harry’s boss ages ago from the person who worked with him. Maybe two or three years ago now. Recalled the name because of the humorous breadth of the story I was told, and mostly because I knew someone with the same last name.
There is a billion dollar tech company (I won't name the company) that actually has a "Chief Evangelist."
Maybe they will use Just Call Me Poor Harry as the poster boy for what can happen if you ignore mental health! Phwaw. That will scare people into signing up.
Have you ever seen Megs give Doria the "stare"? this is a first for me. Here is the link to the video - hope it works.
Maybe it isn't her fault...some of us have resting *itch face, she has resting psychotic killer face.
The picture of Harry on the BetterUp site is from the B&W ones H&M had done in the fall for TIME or at the time of the TOME mentions.
I think the scenario is exactly the opposite. It is not what you know but who you know. Those big names were probably only in those potions due to familial and social connections. Once hired they were not able to walk the walk and were informed they would be let go. Give them notice and work out the severance package. The HAMS only hired them due to their connections, not necessarily their skills. HAMS offered big bucks and the big names took the $$$$ and ran while they searched for their next mark. Meanwhile, they get to add "Royal" foundation to their resume.
@Hikari
Keep Buggering on!
With apologies to Sir Winston, I imagine there might be quite a bit of buggering going on in Montecito or wherever the Sussexes are. Based on Harry's constant smacked bum demeanor and visible discomfort in the body language with his wife, I still think that Megalo is holding buggery over his head in some form or other.
Where's Markus Anderson these days, eh? Do we have any Toronto-based Nutties here? MA seems to have disappeared entirely from the scene. Might he be enmeshed in a menage in Montecito? That latest B&W 'family portrait' under the Tree of Life was telling. Harry is ducked down, his head nearly entirely obscured like he was trying to get out of the shot entirely and didn't quite make it before the shutter snapped. He's as close to invisible as a corporeal being can get. His whole posture is saying "I had nothing to do with this--she doesn't even want me here."
I think it hilarious that Meghan keeps griping about "the men in grey suits" while her husband constantly wears a ratty old grey suit and holey shoes.
info@betterup.com
or
sales@betterup.com
On two separate occasions a few years ago I was brought with a small team by the CEOs of two different well-known companies to see if we could help them with some issues.
These instances happened about ten and fifteen years ago.
CEO #1 met with us in his gorgeous office suite. In a corner the entire time sat a portly serene bald man about 50, in an actual Nehru-type jacket with matching sarong skirt made of unbleached muslin. He said nothing the entire three hours, just stared. Fine, we agree to help and leave. We later learned the muslin man was the CEO’s private guru and spiritual advisor and he attended every meeting. Never heard him speak, but he really launched himself into the lavish lunches,
CEO #2 had an official “spiritual counsel”, this blonde woman about 60 who wore flowing Eileen Fisher-type garments, huge Ankah on a belly-length chain of giant red stone beads, and looked like an angry version of Dolly Parton from the neck up. She wrote in “spirit characters” on a tablet during our meeting, and was rather glaring and hostile to the women in the room. She sat next to the CEO, and kept whispering to him, disrupting the meeting over and over again. So we voted to pass on doing that brand.
Neither company seemed like the type of place that would be run that way, but they were. Maybe Megsy can get Doria that kind of job!
Lol!!! I can see it now: “Come one, come all! Meet a poor sap reject prince of the UK! Bonus: his SuIcIDaL wife! Live on the BetterUp Zoom session for Executive Leaders in middle management, Lesson 68: How to make a break from the workplace when the going gets tough and drift to another employeer who understands the words *freebies, entitlement, and our number 1 value before work, ‘compassion!’*
Lolololol. Yikes. Why are they still using this guys titles in press releases. The Palace is fine with all this? Royal association?
I’m guessing ‘archewell’ is being shuttered or sidelined, but kept in use for their tax schemes.
Harry having to answer to a company is hilarious to me. They are going to be expecting entirely too much from someone who can ‘barely get out of bed everyday.’ Though, I was wondering what they were going to do with Meghan ‘having a baby’.
So let’s see:
1) Archewell the ‘nonprofit’ which is now a bunch of PR rejects
2) Archewell the ‘company’ which is a production studio for Netflix?
3) Archewell ‘audio’ - guessing Spotify doesn’t have a great contract with them
4) Merching during photo releases
5) Non official UK patronage’s
6)the children’s book for dead parents
7) BetterUp CIO- job with actual duties measured against KPIs (results)
8) Oprah’s ‘mental health’ series on Apple (does this conflict with BetterUp??)
Any other ‘jobs’ these two have taken on? Why does Harry need a job at a tech co, if Netflix and Spotify have hired them at a trillion dollars?
Oh my god, you’re right!
Do you suppose she is forcing her hate upon him by allowing him no other clothes? Wow.
Lol!!! I wish so much that your comment (and list) could be on page one of the Times, the MoS, and the Sun!
Submit it, MoS can run it next to their court-ordered mea culpa banner! 😂😂🤣
“Poor sap reject prince”! Someone who can barely get out of bed every day! ......Gold, pure gold.
It occurs to me that actual “impact directors” are probably going to teased by their colleagues for months now.
By the way:
Average annual salary for an impact director in California is @ $42,000 a year (or 9 Meghan dresses) according to Zip-recruiter.
But with all the experience Harry brings to the table, I assume he will be paid more like one million dollars, of course.
9) Travelyst
10) Political activism - meetings with governors
thanks for the email addresses. Just sent my own questioning their decision.
LOL! Perfect. Didn’t even cross my mind about international expansion efforts, but that makes total sense! What BetterUp doesn’t yet know is Harry is loathed across the world! I want to see these ‘companies’ in Europe take a meeting with Traitor Harry and see how well that goes in the press for their bottom line. BetterUp is going to get *Harkled.
The one idea that’s nice around Harry having a 9-5, (I know but I can dream lol), is that he will be away from Grip and around ambitious younger women who are in the marketing and advertising teams at prime age to settle down. He’ll be coming into regular contact with Meghan’s greatest fear- a beautiful, smart, non-lunatic who has true compassion! I have my popcorn ready for that! She’s kept this guy in her basement and now he has to go out and earn some money solo. Love it.
—————————
The James Corden show???? What was that all about?! If he’s known about this gig for a couple months, why was he so solemn and dreary on the bus?!
Yes!
Apologies if this was mentioned but the cap he wore for his papped electric bicycles ride was the campaign hat for a man running for Senator from Missouri.
Now how the hell did Harry or Meghan get that particular hat?
She is going to run for it, on funneled cash. Watch and see.
👏👏👏👏👏👏🤣🤣. Brilliant! And the scary part is this is probably exactly what he will say! 😂😂😂
At least their creepy backers have a sense of humor getting him a job like this, I guess.
Blind Item #5
The ginger haired one can't do anything about the fact that the company he is working for will never make a profit and would be out of business tomorrow if money was not so cheap. Second, I hope he knows the people who work for the company in the positions that interact with the public are paid barely above minimum wage and the company is quick to throw them under a bus to make more money. I'm sure he will fit right in.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/03/blind-item-5_23.html
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/mar/21/the-wannabe-food-influencer-wanted-by-fbi-hargobind-tahilramani-?utm_source=pocket-newtab
“Prince Harry has been using BetterUp’s app and a coach for a couple of months, and he said filling out the initial questionnaire was a bit awkward because his background doesn’t fit a multiple-choice list of questions. “I realize I’m an outlier so there’s no need to get the engineers on it!” he joked, adding, “I was matched with my coach who, quite frankly, is truly awesome and has always given me sound advice and a fresh perspective, which is so valuable.”
-----
I have this vision of H sitting there with his cell phone, tap tap tap his life's problems in to it. He's an "outlier" and so no one can relate to his life. Drop the Royal term and compare. Lost his mother (not the only one), dysfunctional family (anyone?), very wealthy & privileged (not your average problem but not the only one), crazy wife (not alone there), misunderstood (yeah right).
I keep hoping that one of these days when I wake up in the morning I'll no longer be in the Twilight Zone. Starting to lose hope, though.
Cheers, ladies.
Yep. I'm sure than Harry can handle that!LOL. Does this company know that people all over the world are laughing at them today? Everybody else knows that Harry is an imbecile, except for them. Why not them? Great PR move, self-satisfied idiots.
*****************************
As for Harry's pathetic gray suit, I think MM has convinced him that light gray is his color (it washes him out), so that she can be the queen bee and stand out in her $5,000 dresses. Now that he's making some money, maybe she'll let him buy a new suit and some decent shoes.
Here's hoping that Harry turns up for work wearing shoes this time.
******************************
They aren't releasing how much money he will make on this new job, so I'm guessing that it's a pittance. I'm sure that their mental health product will sell much better now, as they've added a clown to their executive board.
I wonder when they will get tired of one trick pony Harry, and how many more startups can Meg and Harry run through? Surely these cos will wise up with non-compete agreements?
Interesting observation about the lack of shouting about his salary. They press released Netflix and threw out a number. Nothing since then. Spotify mum.
"I firmly believe that focusing on and prioritising our mental fitness unlocks potential and opportunity that we never knew we had inside of us," Harry said in the blog post.
ROFL!
That's our Hazza, all right--firmly priorising his mental fitness and unlocking his potential! I can just see him eagerly embracing his 'duties' and expanding the roster of coaches and customers.
Does 'other duties' include polishing the office doorknobs and keeping them shiny? He might be able to handle that, with a tea break (or something stronger) every 10-15 minutes. Then he can start on the windows.
Provided by Jdubya--
“Prince Harry has been using BetterUp’s app and a coach for a couple of months, and he said filling out the initial questionnaire was a bit awkward because his background doesn’t fit a multiple-choice list of questions. “I realize I’m an outlier so there’s no need to get the engineers on it!” he joked, adding, “I was matched with my coach who, quite frankly, is truly awesome and has always given me sound advice and a fresh perspective, which is so valuable.”
Oh, my sides!!!
Harry could not pass Art without a teacher doing his project. A D in Geography is for him, a good grade--he passed! (barely, and he probably cheated for that, too.)
Haz *might* be able to locate the United Kingdom and California on a map (with hints). Show of hands everybody who believes that he 1. Knows what an 'outlier' is and 2. Can spell it.
What a hoot!
We'll see Harry outside, washing the Land Rovers of the two other exec officers, after he cleans their private executive bathrooms and gets their coffee.
“Prince Harry has been using BetterUp’s app and a coach for a couple of months, and he said filling out the initial questionnaire was a bit awkward because his background doesn’t fit a multiple-choice list of questions. “I realize I’m an outlier so there’s no need to get the engineers on it!” he joked, adding, “I was matched with my coach who, quite frankly, is truly awesome and has always given me sound advice and a fresh perspective, which is so valuable.”
---------------------------------------------
Reading this and reflecting on H&M statements in recent past. Just everything this couple says anywhere, any time is all so calculated towards PR, financial agreements and brand associations. Sometimes the exercise of dissecting the what, how, why about H&M seems futile because everything is a smokescreen. To them, the joke's on us.
Well, at least when Harry takes his private jet to Silicone Valley for the work week, that will give Markle time to find the next husband, one who's got money, and plenty of it. She miscalculated Harry's worth.
The one where John Cleese tries to return the dead parrot? LOL! "It's pining for the fjords!" Hahahaha!
Wait! The Upper Class Twit of The Year Awards is perfect for Harry!!
This company, BetterUp, is an app. It really seems like it is similar to that website called BetterHelp.
Remember back in 2018 when all those YouTubers were saying they were stressed and getting depressed because they were filming and uploading their videos to YouTube? Well, BetterHelp was the site they promoted to their viewers to get help. Turned out anyone could sign up and be a counselor for BetterHelp. BetterUp seems to be very similar to BetterHelp except that it's an app.
Are things so bad in Silicon valley that they seem to name similar services using similar names. BetterUp and BetterHelp. Maybe someone should do some digging and compare the two services.
And why do they want HARRY as the face of their company? Oh well, prepare to be Markled, BetterUp.
-------------------
Here's a link to https://www.betterhelp.com/
Hazza: "I am not a robot" worked hard for this sinecure and deserve a fancy title.
Me to Hazza: Please prove you're not a robot.
The comments there are interesting as quite a number were from Americans who DO realise what a piece of work Meghan is. Feelings were running high about her expressed disdain for the St George's wedding compared to her garden 'wedding'. Yet another way to insult the British people who paid over £30M. I suddenly realised, from one of the viewers of Lady C's latest, that Meghan has never once - to my knowledge - expressed thanks to the British people for that day. She thinks WE should be grateful! Like medieval peasants. (In fact we were worse off as the ordinary folk at royal weddings in the past sometimes had fountains running with wine for their own pleasure - as with Catherine of Aragon's two weddings).
Interesting that Lady C mentioned that no matter what Diana did to Charles, he always instructed staff never to brief against her. The same instruction has gone out for Meghan, though like many Nutties, Lady C thinks this may be unwise. She said the Palace should fight fire with fire, otherwise they'll get scorched.
Mind you, thinking of the no briefing against Diana time, I remember friends of Charles, like Nicholas Soames, spoke quite freely about Diana being unhinged. I guess you can't really control Churchill's grandson ...
I keep wanting to type Butter Up
Yeah there’s no money in this. Mental health concepts are everywhere and they say their major clients are hotels and retail, two naturally cheap industries that put the money into facilities and stock, and which are bleeding cash now.
Smokescreen, to get investors, to then sell it off. How much you want to bet Harry got his job by promising a huge future Netflix or Oprah donation? He and Oprah are still working on their mental health documentary, right?
PR incest is all I see, and a way to give Megs time to stalk Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, or Charlize Theron.
Meghan Markle’s crystal necklace has a hidden meaning (Yeah like Meghan keep anything hidden?)
As confirmed to Page Six Style on Tuesday, the Duchess of Sussex, 39, paired her $30 puff-sleeved Velvet Torch dress with a far pricier piece: a $1,295 trapezoid-shaped lapis lazuli pendant from The Airelume, the “collection of wearable talismans” by her friend Taryn Toomey’s brand, The Class.
“Lapis lazuli aids in self-expression and revelation of one’s inner truth,” the product description reads. “This stone is widely regarded as a token of sincerity and wisdom – and is especially helpful to anyone in need of a boost in self-confidence and a stronger connection to their inner voice.”
Never mind the fact, I can get lapis lazuli at a local second hand shop for $30, nothing says I'm a butterfly emerging from my royal coo-coo-n like dropping $1300 on a tacky necklace made with semi precious stones.
Grip and Drip (who came up with that? it's brilliant) are comic fool's gold. Their PRs in over drive to distract us from the proven lies today. Coincidence or conspiracy? ;)
I give it 30-90 days, the standard probation period for a new employee to prove they aren't an unqualified idiot.
(Your moniker is funny and nostalgic. I used it way way back in the day when I commented on poli-stinx on yahoo.)
It drives me crazy when organisations pay vast sums of money to word salad experts who come and deliver utterly pointless, patronising pep talks to overworked, underpaid employees of whom they know nothing.
“Please prove you’re not a robot.”
I can’t stop laughing. So true, so true!
Harry as an employee has only three points of reference:
- Doing as the Queen said
- Doing as the military said
- Doing as Megbats says
Nothing there ^^^ prepared him to be a self starter, planner, concept generator, or problem solver. Maybe a team player? Hmm, ask William about that one. I also think he has attention span issues. He is screwed before his first day unless they are just using him to read into a camera.
The fact that the people who own this app think Harry (whose life is a mess created of horrible choices and mental issues) is qualified to be a key officer for a mental health initiative, of all things, suggests this business built on nonsense and will fail hard.
I suppose “They” decided this would be a noble, salable job for the First Gentleman when Megs becomes the US president In 2024.
Thanks. My cat is diabetic and farts like crazy these days. I tell him "Sir, you stink" alot. He is such a sweet kitty and loves to snuggle. A rescue my now teen daughter adopted at age 3. Getting down to the last of his 9 lives, Its going to be hard to let him go when the time comes.
Thanks! I wouldn't know where to start looking. Just get a feeling that SW is involved somehow. Drip just doesn't command respect on his own (just his title) so I'm thinking there has to be some kind of "quid-pro-quo" going on. Maybe somebody invited to the wedding has to return the favor?
On another note, someone on twitter (I thin k) pointed out the ridiculousness of having Drip be associated with this app, considering he blew up his own family.
Maybe we should market ourselves as the Sussex Advice Agency to the rich and powerful. Our slogan being "DON'T". In fancy writing of course. We could save their money and their reputations.
Feelings were running high about her expressed disdain for the St George's wedding compared to her garden 'wedding'. Yet another way to insult the British people who paid over £30M. I suddenly realised, from one of the viewers of Lady C's latest, that Meghan has never once - to my knowledge - expressed thanks to the British people for that day. She thinks WE should be grateful!
Too right. Just look at everything the Sussex wedding did for British tourism!!
(erg.)
Can any UK-based Nutties tell me exactly how many weeks it was after the tourism-boosting nuptials that the cheesy wedding souvs were in the .99p bin . . anybody?
As I had done for W. & C.'s wedding seven years prior, I took the morning off work to watch the festivities. Royal weddings start very early over on this side of the Pond. Like, 4AM early. People on the West coast (3 hours behind me and 8 hours behind London) don't bother going to bed at all.
To this day I still can't fathom why anybody would clamor to take credit for her hair and makeup that day. For THAT she imported a style team and pitched a hissy fit over a hairdo rehearsal with a tiara?? I realize that plastic hair is very difficult to work with but surely a professional should have been able to do something better? Terrible.
That huge spectacle was entirely for the couple who would have pouted and screamed racism from the off if they'd been told they had to do something simpler considering that the bride was a divorced foreigner with no citizenship and the most nebulous commitment to her third or fourth religion. But *now* they claim they were bullied into having a gargantuan, impersonal wedding filled with Hollywood movie stars whom Meghan had never even met, all for the 'optics' of seeing the Windsors' first black princess sacrificed on the altar of soul-killing 'tradition'.
They really are Too Much.
@snarkyattherbest...glad my silly comments gave you laugh.
@Fifi LaRue....remember the brief period when GameStop stock when thru the roof due to day trading? That didn't last long. Stock valuations means little, especially when it comes to start ups like this. I'm willing to bet it is worth upwards of $2B, in monopoly money.
ROFL, Lady C did say, in her latest video, that Lauren Sanchez better make sure to keep Jeff Bezos well away from Meghan Markle!
Exactly. I hate it too. Many HR departments are easily fooled by million dollar greed-motivated sweet talkers, though. I once worked for a huge company and moved on, then got a call from the chairman emeritus to come back and figure out what was wrong there. The happy successful place I’d left three years earlier was a wreck of depressed, jittery, destroyed souls crying in the bathrooms and going home early with panic attacks. People sat at desks like zombies and productivity was way down. This was not directly what I do, but I had revamped teams so I snooped a bit for a week. People were terrified, even old friends, and told me horror stories of being screamed at and put down and threatened by “expert consultants”.... I finally asked the chairman what happened between the day I left and the day he called? Finally found out the new president (a giant gasbag fraud grifter as i found out later) had brought in a “mental health and positivity” company to “restructure” things over the summer..,.cost, a cool 7 million. I am sure some went into the grifter President’s pockets.
@AnT. I think you just found the perfect job for Hazza when he ummm transitions from Chief Impact Officer duties.
Your suggestion was good, but I just thought of another . . .
Crash Test Dummy
Really, that's perfect for Harry. He's already so brain-damaged, what are a few more blows to the cranium? Won't make any difference. He can moonlight at Trader Joe's at the weekends passing out samples of Yorkshire pud and blood sausage and stuff in the 'Olde England' section. That would give him a little taste of home, and Meg would be OK with that so long as he wears his ankle monitor and doesn't stray from his aisle. I think they make pretty decent money at Trader Joe's. He could no doubt pick up some extra shifts returning carts in the parking lot if this ButterUp thing falls through.
I remember those tourism figures as well. The Harkles were trying to excuse the millions wasted on Frogmore and the wedding by saying they had enormously elevated tourism. Figures proved them quite wrong, as you say.
There isn't enough PR in the world to really convince investors that Harry's got viable brain cells and a personality, is there? I can't believe any companies are falling for that.
That’s it! His perfect employment scenario! 😆
Well, Harry CAN say he watched his own wife abuse and harass a number of employees until they wept and quit and fell apart emotionally for several years, so he brings that valuable personal experience in, and thus can relate to the Impact of some situations in the workplace.
And that’s when the gathered BetterUp clients can call him a dummy.
(I am hearing “batter up!” from baseball with that stupid name.)
@SirStinAlot,
My beloved Norwegian Forest cat rescue was diabetic when he got older too! I did the injections and testing and we even traveled back and forth from Germany with his insulin in a cold pack and more waiting at either end of our trips. What finally helped him was extra outdoor exercise running in the village fields, then I noticed he was obsessed with catching mice or birds to eat and his levels would get better. I got rid of all dry foods (horrible for pets in my opinion), then put him on wet canned game foods they had there like duck, venison, rabbit. You can get that here too now. And my neighbors there gave me fresh goat milk and meat for him too. One elderly neighbor made him nine broths and a soup of fresh caught fish too, which he loved, You can get that now too. He improved dramatically and I kept him on his new diet with vet checks, and we went from heavy insulin use to only having it for a rare emergency. Hang in there! I agree, a change of diet can be a miracle worker. ❤️
It must have been strange for her to join heading up a mental health focused Charity and the cofounder bails to take a job at a for profit company in the mental health space.
@SirStinxAlot,
Sorry should explain - a “nine broth” as I understood was a nourishing soup made from nine (or close to it) kinds of organ meats, other meats, from whatever they had on their little farms or in the kitchens —even sardines. Duck and duck eggs too sometimes. No chicken though. And they fed the soup to their pets and farm cats as a sustaining meal. My cat was crazy for it. Perked him up and he lost a bit of weight which helped.
Now what about Meghan? What job could she do, cuz you know acting didn't work out and politics is a pipe dream. Meghan the Montecito Medium?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf26Q-E2YNY
@AnT...thanks for sharing your diabetic cat story. 100% agree about dry food. Diabetes skyrocketed in cats after the introduction of dry food, which is largely fillers and sugar. Cats are carnivoires. They need meat.
Aww, your kitty sounds like he is enjoying the good life life! My cat was 100% indoors too, also due to city living, except when we were in the country house in Germany. He had safe land from house to river and fields, and was always supervised by me, neighbors, or the village dog pal who herded him away from danger. I don’t really believe in letting cats out, but my elderly neighbors talked me into it saying I had to try something and their cats played outside, for health. I gave in when my vet there said we had to try something and “nature” would help. I think because he was doglike, obeyed commands it worked for him, in that place, at that time. But I had to leash train him for three months as to the parameters of roads and fences. He learned though, and only crossed the one road in my arms when the elderly neighbors had him over on Friday nights for fish and television (he would sit on the sofa with them and they would take him up to bed too, so cute). On Saturday mornings, I would bring him home but he lovvvvvvvveed being with them. Her broths saved him.
Absolutely true! Our current two cats only get get meats, a certain canned food and goat milk and broth.