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Opus said…
Off topic I know but I am shaking my head at the accusations of woke-heresy against Shaw's Pygmalion which I can only charitably ascribe to Americans ignorance of England (as soon as an English person opens their mouth one can always tell almost everything about them - not so I think in America - and the different classes keep their distance just as much as do the two sexes). Professor Higgins does not, like a latter day Harvey Weinstein or Rochdale rape gang, ply Eliza (who is a good girl) with drink and inveigle her into his home for the purpose of having his wicked way even though at the end of the film Opus' first law of proximity is invoked namely that if you put two people of opposite sexes together then eventually they will have conjugal relations): his interest in the 'baggage' is to win a bet. He is less a misogynist and more a misanthrope and anyway what is wrong with misogyny? hey I was born that way/it is my lifestyle choice and I do not consent to Gynophilia.

Eliza is usually played by well spoken women like Julie Andrews but I prefer it the other way where a common girl like Twiggy who is naturally souf-lonan alters her accent to pass as a Duchess. I doubt however that even the Professor would have managed to pass-off Meghan Markle as anything better than she is.

One of the things I like about the film is the way the set designer has rearranged the various parts of Covent Garden in a case of art improving on real life. I far prefer the My Fair Lady Covent Garden to the on-location Covent Garden in Hitchcock's Frenzy - the market now long-gone. I had a school friend who lived opposite the opera house in those days (which is where I last saw him - he used to say the only women he knew in London - and this when he was a schoolboy - were prostitutes).

Sadly these decades there are no flower girls outside the opera house, the floral hall has been gentrified and the cost of tickets has in my adult lifetime become the preserve of the seriously wealthy - that was not the case in my salad days when I was a fairly regular fixture in the stalls. Bravo Colin we used to cry out making our preference clear - when it came to conductors.
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JennS said...
More TEA about Markle's past picked up from various sites including LSA, DataLounge, Daily Mail comment sections, Twitter Feeds, etc.
I can't confirm any of this personally of course...🀣

🍰☕️☕️🍰☕️☕️🍰☕️☕️🍰

#1 There was apparently a first take of the engagement interview that wasn't nearly as sugary as required and they redid it. The red flags are a good bit more obvious in that first take. The story about the Corgis immediately taking to MM was not true - just a PR invention added to the narrative.

#2 In discussions on Datalounge about Lady C's book prior to its release these comments were made: "So Lady C has more than one verification that Meghan did indeed throw her hot tea at Admiralty House during the Australian tour because she deemed it unpotable."
"The story first surfaced after the Australia trip that they were staying at Admiralty House in Sydney as guests of the Governor-General, when she threw HOT tea at a staffer. The wife of the Governor-General made a formal complaint about the incident to the UK's Foreign Office, who arrange these trips."

#3 Also from DataLounge: "I worked as a Production Assistant in the Canadian TV/Film industry from 1995 to 2013. I still live in Toronto, and I have many friends in the business. I know some people who worked on Suits and I've never heard a single positive thing about Meghan Markle. When the news broke that she was dating Harry, I know for a fact that members of both cast and crew were praying that she'd get married and quit the show. I wonder what Markle is going to do now that her number one mouthpiece (aka Jessica Mulroney) has to be cut off."
From a different poster re Suits - "Basically what I heard was that she was a total bitch to the crew, several directors hated her, and she and Gabriel Macht did not get along."

#4 Meghan's topless photos have not been completely scrubbed and are still online. As far I know, these are the original legitimate pictures taken along with Lindsey Roth and another friend while they were on vacation. They became public before the wedding and MM claimed they were not her!
NSFW - https://www.hotcelebshome.com/2018/03/16/meghan-markle-topless-leaked-pics-nsfw/

#5 MM's racy photos from Suits and the burger grilling video became an issue for Kate in her case against the French magazine that had taken pics of her without her knowledge while on vacation with William.
https://www.her.ie/news/provocative-meghan-markle-pics-used-magazine-topless-duchess-kate-case-408106

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Unknown said…
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JennS said...
More TEA:
🍩☕️🍩☕️🍩

This story was left here on this blog about a year ago by a woman who posted with us for a short time. The woman is a physician in LA and her sister was seriously bullied by Meghan in high school. She told the story in several posts that I've grouped together here:

My younger sister went to school with Megs (that’s what she was called then) and found herself the object of cruel bullying. On the surface, Megs appeared polite and dutiful. But scratch that same surface, and Megs was unnecessarily mean to those who were unique or eclectic. Ironic that.

Megs presented a faΓ§ade of appearing “polite and dutiful”.
Perhaps more than either of these descriptors, she was CHARMING. Thus she could SEEM polite and dutiful to teachers, administrators and those high on the social hierarchy. But she was anything BUT polite or dutiful to others.

I only met her once (and briefly at that) picking my sister up at school. But I heard about her frequently. I’ve attempted to maintain some sense of balance in following her, as I know how kids can be towards their classmates. And as they grow, so do their perspectives, and actions. Some adults have looked back to their younger years and recognized their folly. But not all.

According to my sister, Megs was a “Queen Bee”. Again ironic. Neither of us watched the movie, Mean Girls (perhaps because it cut a bit close to the bone), but that was the sense that was conveyed.

There were accusations of tirades (for appearing “different”), name-calling and ostracism; the general bullying stuff.

But it became a bit more involved when my sister was accused of something she adamantly denies and was later vindicated of such by a 3rd party. This took approximately 4 months time, though, and she insisted Megs and her gang lied and planted “evidence” to the contrary. (Involving drugs). (My sister maintains to this day that Megs had access to substances via her parents.)

(Our folks were strict, and both my sister and I were “good kids”; if a bit introverted and shy.)

To spare the details, a third party provided evidence that overwhelmingly cleared my sister. But Megs and her friends were not punished. They were “popular” and threatening. And she got along well with staff.

As mentioned above, she was apparently VERY charming.

That era was awkward and painful for my sister. She has grown through it, fortunately. But difficult remembrances.
There was some hope that M had changed: successful. Prominent. Well-to-do.
But, alas, it appears that not to be the case.

So those that state Megs flew off the handle may have a thread of truth. I spent much time consoling my sibling and encouraging her in the face of ringleader Megs. Such cruelty at a young age. To this day I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around it. Perhaps it’s related to sensitivities of those of us who gravitate toward the healing professions. Different from the Pretend World of Hollywood or Social Climbing SoHo.

If she is (as an adult) as she was when younger, eventually there will be a tipping point. And all those who struggled as a result of Megs may come forward. (NDAs be damned.)
She seems, though, to be devolving quite quickly. At what seems her (and H’s) own hands.
Fascinating to watch this from afar given my sister’s history.

I’ll conclude with something that is complete conjecture: Doria is enigmatic for a reason. I find there is little about her, and she remains a pivotal, yet mysterious figure in relation to all that has transpired in regards to Meghan: now and when she was younger.

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So it seems Markle is not only a highly SKILLED and CRUEL bully, she is also willing to lie to set up those who become her targets. And she apparently can very easily gaslight and fool those who are not targets into thinking she is an upstanding person. I really feel bad for all her staff. I hope all their stories are told and some form of justice is attained.
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JennS said...
@Magatha
Harry in his onesies!
I had an avatar with him dressed in onesies with a pacifier in his mouth
that I considered resurrecting.
But I can't take the sight of him right now!
I prefer Sodapop Curtis at the moment.
πŸ’“πŸ’‹πŸ’“πŸ’‹πŸ’“
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Magatha Mistie said...
@Jenns

I’d love to see the original engagement vid.
Harry must have forgotten his lines!!
Didn’t she complain that the interviewer
wasn’t sycophantic enough?
Re-watched Notting Hill, not seen it
for donkeys, serious Julia Roberts
vibes from Megs, even a puce pussy
bow blouse moment!!
She really does, in her head,
live in La La Land.
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Magatha Mistie said...
@JennS

Yes, Sodapop Curtis!
Our Rob is similar to Cillian Murphy πŸ’“
Either would have been welcome
to leave their slippers by my fire,
pre Mister Mistie πŸ˜‰
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HappyDays said...
@JennS: THANK YOU for posting the comment from the woman whose sister was bullied by Meghan in high school. I’ve been looking for this woman’s recollection of Meghan’s bullying for quite some time.

Here’s another bit of TEA about Meghan’s bullying. This time, it’s a comment that I believe is still visible on Quora from a woman who states she was in the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority chapter with Meghan at Northwestern. It sounds like classic Meghan behavior. That Meghan quickly wormed her way into nothing less than the British Royal Family is beyond any fiction bestseller. But as the saying goes: Truth is stranger than fiction.

This woman describes Meghan, as “cruel,” which I define as far beyond “mean.” To me, cruelty indicates that the person being cruel derives a certain sort of sick pleasure from mistreating another person (including children), or an animal. Most people would be mortified to be described as such.

From Quora:
Question:
Is Meghan Markle a nice person?

Anonymous
Answered March 27, 2020
I was friends with Meghan Markle in college (Woo go Northwestern!) so I can answer this one.

My personal opinion is that she could be very nice but also very cruel. It all depends on who you were. To her “crowd” or friends like me, she was very nice and friendly.

But to people she disliked or did not care for, or people who displeased her in some way, she could turn like a switch and become very mean.

At one point, her bullying of two friends of mine ( I will call them “Sam” and “Katie” ) became so bad, that both friends would refuse to come to events if they knew Rachel was there. One of them considered quitting the sorority because of it.

However, even though Rachel could have a few bad moments, I do not think she is a horrible person. She could also be very nice and friendly, which is how she was most of the time. What people need to realize is that most people are not 100% kind, compassionate people. Most people are not nice to every single person they meet, and I do not believe it is fair to put her on a pedestal and expect her to act perfectly 100% of the time.

Was what Rachel did to my friends wrong? Yes. But most people I knew in college could be quite mean, and could bully others at times, and I am willing to bet the person reading this has been mean to people as well.

So who are you to judge?

So while I do not think Rachel is the next Mother Theresa, I do not think she is a horrible human being either. What I think she is, is normal. And I think she should be treated like a normal human being.

P.S I would like to say I was never a “best” friend of Rachels, though I was involved in the sorority she was in and knew her well enough for us to call each other friends. Also, Im going Anonymous so I dont get death threats or nasty comments from anyone. Sorry, but I will not be answering any questions/comments. And no, Rachel and I are no longer in contact with each other, we went our separate ways after graduation.
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Magatha Mistie said...
@HappyDays

Regarding Megs cheating on Cory.
I remember Megs having a ‘secret’
photographed meeting with
Christian Jones at a cafe when she
was pregnant.
Rumours on DM etc, reckoned a story
was coming out about her having an affair
with her personal trainer
whilst married to Trev? More whitewashing?
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Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
@Happy Days -

It sounds as if the Poster from NW-ern had drunk the Kool Ade.

it's true that when someone who is normally OK shows their teeth, we tend to interpret this as showing their `true' colours'.

With narcissists, though, I've come to believe that being horrible is their true default position. Queens University Belfast research on narcissism , published in 2019, showed that it benefits those who exhibit it - they're more successful and happier than they would be otherwise - but they are really vile people underneath.

This part of the report suggests how the rest of us might do better - not sure that I agree-
https://www.qub.ac.uk/Research/feature/narcissism-can-lower-stress-levels-and-reduce-chances-of-depression/#:~:text=Empty-,Narcissism%20might%20be%20a%20dark%20trait
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Magatha Mistie said....
@HappyDays

I agree with the anon, most people
have been mean at sometime,
but, most people are not deliberately
cruel when something displeases them.
You’re right, cruel is a strong word,
and sums up Meg.
I can imagine her as a child
pulling the wings off butterflies.
As an adult, detaching the balls
from her men!!
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Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
I've started wondering about how H would react (to be hypothetical about it) to her being `unfaithful'.

If the rumours about the sex tape are true, might that suggest it's no big deal? Perhaps he likes seeing other blokes in action - as opposed to watching her in action with other blokes? Slight difference.

All speculation, of course.
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Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar

Haz no longer knows what he likes.
Whether he’s Arthur or Martha,
he likes what Megs tells him
Meglov’s Dog.
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lizzie said...
@HappyDays,

Thanks for the Quora post purportedly from a sorority sister of Meghan's. Sounds to me like she is simply trying to justify her own mean behavior in college and perhaps beyond.

I agree with her that "most people are not 100% kind, compassionate people. Most people are not nice to every single person they meet..." We've all lost our tempers-- at a bank error, the failure of a repair person to show up after waiting all day, a spouse who does X one time too often. But it's a big leap from those behaviors to bullying people so badly they would refuse to attend events if we are present. I also think it's possible that sorority was full of "mean girls" because the poster says "most people I knew in college could be quite mean, and could bully others at times."

While the definition of "bullying" has changed since I was young (and not for the better IMO) when I think of people I knew during my high school and college years, honestly at the very most, 1-2 were what I'd call bullies. Hardly "most people." Back then though, a person being bullied had to know it was happening for it to be bullying. Apparently that's not true today. Two high school friends privately giggling at home about another student's outfit are likely to be called bullies by today's definition. In my day, the other student had to be aware she was being ridiculed for it to be bullying. The definition has also become elastic the other way-- horrendous behavior to subordinates is defended as mere "assertiveness."
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Teasmade said...
Thanks as always, JennS! Some nice summaries.
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Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Magatha - I'm sure you're right!
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TheGrangle said...
Prince Albert of Monaco weighs in....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9405323/Prince-Albert-Monaco-blasts-Prince-Harry-bombshell-Oprah-interview.html
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Magatha Mistie said...
Mickey Enfin’

The mouse with no house
takes the Mickey
Because of his smears
He’s caught in arrears
There’s much about Mickey
That’s tricky

Thanks to Jan Moir’s article:
Mickey Mouse Harry!
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Miggy said...
Harry pinching a guy's nipples.

First time I've ever seen this.

Gross! 😣

https://twitter.com/hrrysgreysuit/status/1375220115277406210
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Miggy said...
Ugh! I just scrolled way down on that Twitter thread that I posted above.

It appears that Harry has a nipple fetish!
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Magatha Mistie said...
@TheGrangle

Thanks for that.
I’m sure all the other Royal houses
are disgusted with Harry.
They will feel for the Queen.

God Save the Queen
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SwampWoman said...
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I've started wondering about how H would react (to be hypothetical about it) to her being `unfaithful'.

If the rumours about the sex tape are true, might that suggest it's no big deal? Perhaps he likes seeing other blokes in action - as opposed to watching her in action with other blokes? Slight difference.

All speculation, of course.

I would think that his predominant emotion would be relief if they are, in fact, sexually active together. The predominant emotions that I get from them are fear (his part) and contempt (her part). I suppose hate can be a basis for a marriage, too, but I certainly wouldn't want to be a first responder to such.
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TheGrangle said...
@Magatha Mistie

Prince Albert has his own skeletons as do the whole Grimaldi family, the difference being that they have the humanity, respect for the family and dignity not to whinge in public. His own mother, Princess Grace was a real 'Hollywood Star' (as opposed to a little known television Tart)and who, by all accounts, had quite a reputation in Hollywood. However from the day of her marriage to Prince Rainier, she did the USA proud and was an excellent example of how it is possible, with the right motives and a little intelligence, to adapt to Royal life and earn the respect of the people.
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Magatha Mistie said...
@Swampie

Or last responder πŸ˜‰
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SwampWoman said...
lizzie said: 
I agree with her that "most people are not 100% kind, compassionate people. Most people are not nice to every single person they meet..." We've all lost our tempers-- at a bank error, the failure of a repair person to show up after waiting all day, a spouse who does X one time too often. But it's a big leap from those behaviors to bullying people so badly they would refuse to attend events if we are present. I also think it's possible that sorority was full of "mean girls" because the poster says "most people I knew in college could be quite mean, and could bully others at times."


I've always been a firm believer of the old adage that one can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. What Megsie (and the other mean girls) seem not to have learned is that the honey is continued after the fly is caught if you ever want more flies.

I agree that the person writing about Megs in that post seems to be a prototypical mean girl herself or, at the very least, too fearful of the others in the sorority to stand up and say this isn't right.
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Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Just a reminder about the photo of the reactions to Lord Guthrie's fall on Hrrysgreysuit- to be fair to Harry, to me it looks like a sharp intake of breath with teeth together - it's a wince. I'd probably do it myself in that situation - it's typical of someone who knows what it's like to fall heavily onto a hard surface from the saddle.
Or give a horrified gasp like Catherine.


As for Markle, I have no hesitation in saying I’m sure she’s sniggering.
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SwampWoman said...
Magatha Mistie said...

@Swampie

Or last responder
πŸ˜‰

Yep! They often join together in attacking the people responding to the call for assistance!
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Magatha Mistie said...

@wildBoar

‘Twas a laugh behind her hand.
Her hand is slightly bigger
than her big mouth.
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Miggy said...
@WBBM,

Just a reminder about the photo of the reactions to Lord Guthrie's fall on Hrrysgreysuit- to be fair to Harry, to me it looks like a sharp intake of breath with teeth together - it's a wince.


I would have agreed, but for the fact that his eyes are smiling!
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Magatha Mistie said...

@Swampie

Remember, there was only
the “three of them”
Haz, Megs, and the tree she was peeing on..
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