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Public life, private conversations, and the Sussexes

If you fear that anything you say privately may be revealed publicly, you cannot express yourself freely. You can't play with ideas, you can't think aloud, you cannot debate and discuss. You can only repeat concepts that have been approved by the authorities. Your mind is in prison. 

When there is no distinction between public and private conversation, you can trust no one. Not even your family.

Which brings us to the Sussexes. 

Taking a private conversation public

During Harry and Meghan's notorious broadcast last week, the couple gave contradictory statements about an unnamed family member who had - in a private conversation - expressed "concern" about the Sussex child's skin color. 

Putting aside the fact that most families speculate about what an unborn child might look like, the revelation that someone had been "concerned" took what had been a private family conversation into the public sphere, where it was never intended to be.

Was it (supposedly) wrong that the speaker had felt concern or wrong that the speaker had expressed concern about the baby's looks?  

(My guess is that we are probably talking about a throwaway remark like "Maybe we'll call him the Dark Prince" or some other dry humor blown out of proportion by the Sussexes.)

Anyway, if the speaker had simply wondered about the unborn baby's physical characteristics, was the "right" thing to do to keep it to himself or herself, even in front of close family?

If we cannot speak freely to our family, to whom can we speak freely?

A chat with William and Charles

On Tuesday, CBS anchor Gayle King revealed that she had been in touch with Harry, who said he had spoken to his father and brother after the interview.

Harry told her that the conversations were "not productive", said King, who added that what the Sussexes really wanted was for the Royal family to condemn the (supposedly) racist press coverage of the pair.

Once again, the Sussexes had dragged private conversations with the family into the public sphere, spitting on the family's attempts at de-escalation and reconciliation. 

If I were William or Charles, I would be reluctant to ever again speak directly to Harry. The chance that he would repeat - if not record and release - whatever was said to him is simply too high.

Two ironies

There are two great ironies in the Sussexes' public release of private information.

First of all, Meghan recently (unexpectedly) won a court case confirming her right to privacy concerning a letter to her father. (There were rumors at the time that the Royal Family leaned on the judge in order to avoid a precedent that would affect their own privacy.)

Apparently Meghan believes the right to privacy applies to her but not to others.

Secondly, the Sussexes are trying to make it in Hollywood, where the ability to keep a secret is highly valued. (How many romantic leading men are secretly gay? Which goody-two-shoes celebrities have a drug habit? Who is funnelling money to left-wing terrorists or right-wing terrorists?)

Information is currency in Hollywood. How can potential business partners trust the Sussexes with any type of information? Will they run and tattle to their media contacts any time a business deal goes wrong?

It's hard to know what the Sussexes want at this point, but it seems unlikely they're going to get it. 

Comments

lucy said…
Regarding Montecito, I do not feel like they live there. Maybe they were flopping there but I just can't see them "taking a mortgage" out for this house. Wherever they are now is probably provided by Oprah in exchange for interview/future super secret projects 🙄

The one big tell though is she didn't have HGTV or Architectural Digest redecorating and furnishing for free and cut of the merch

One thing I was thinking of that I keep forgetting to mention is Archie's "title"
Am I reading correctly that he will be known as "Master Archie Harrison Mountbatton-Windsor" ?

How will that go down with the "woke" brigade?
Here in the states word "master" is rather frowned upon. Trying to cancel it even (i.e. Masters golf.)

"Master Archie" Whitest baby ever birthed between a ginger and "black woman" (allegedly)
It will be interesting if fuss made of "master"
Should have already happened though,no? Been heavily discussing his name since interview. Poor fella ,so much drama

It also had me thinking to the "what color skin" accusation going around. I wonder if somehow Meg was going to say the RF made her use surrogate as they didn't want "dark baby" . Just a thought . Goodnight!





lucy said…
@jessica asked "what's left?"

3 words. "Markle Family Reunion"

Harry better get a job quick before he and the family has to pedal down to Mexico to meet the dad she never had so he can pay water bill 🤣

It's funny but not.

Other than that? The Divorce lmao you know Oprah will want Harry interview, he is the draw. But Harry, he should go talk to Piers 😂

I cannot believe this is their life now. Ok now I say goodnight :)
Anonymous said…
Blogger Portcitylass said...

So everyone paying attention knows the royal family supports diversity. Why then, all of a sudden, does the Queen feel the need to hire a diversity chief? To me, it makes Her Majesty look weak.

I agree. It’s tantamount to raising the white flag to the Left.
@lucy,

Hot Rob must know if he lived right next door. I'm sure he would have seen moving vans, handymen, painters, etc., turning into the entrance to Mudslide Mansion if they lived there. I think his saying that they are as rare a sighting as the Loch Ness Monster, that he also doesn't believe that they live there.

If they did buy it, it's an investment as they rent it out for filming purposes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8840231/Harry-Meghans-Montecito-mansion-rented-700-hour.html

My aunt rented out her restaurant for a major film, and it completely shut down her restaurant for weeks, when they filmed only about 15 minutes of the movie there. She was paid well for it, and anytime I want to see her, I can just watch the movie, as she's in it as an extra.

We need to send Jenn to track down Hot Rob.

@Puds & @Portcitylass:

I don't think HM can win on the `diversity Czar' - can be damned either way.
As for apologising, it can be too much like admitting liability.

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I'd been starting to think that MM could have created all of this chaos without backing, so monstrous is her ego.

The Corey story gives me pause for thought though - who did pay?

Would the RF have cared that much for H's happiness, even if they had married already? Or...?


I'm going round in circles.

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@JennS - Many thanks for the C+F tip - it'll save a lot of time and apologising for not being able to name the Nutty who posted the point being answered.
Big public Trooping the Colour not happening this year, as well as last:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/03/19/trooping-colour-cancelled-second-year-plans-pared-windsor-castle/
Miggy said…
Like we didn't already know.. 😉

MEG TIED THE NOT Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s wedding certificate proves couple did NOT wed three days before Windsor ceremony.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14411884/meghan-markle-prince-harry-wedding-certificate-three-days/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign


* Includes copy of marriage certificate.
Meghan ‘clearly misinformed’ with claim about earlier wedding, ex-official says

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/meghan-clearly-misinformed-claim-earlier-053547171.html

So that's saying Welby misinformed them?
Miggy said…
From the same Sun article a brilliant piece by Petronella Wyatt! 👏👏👏

“FURIOUS” is not an adjective one would normally associate with the Duke of ­Cambridge.But, oh brother. The dice have been rolled and Wills has found himself on the receiving end of a pair of snake eyes, courtesy of Prince Harry.

Along with his anger at Harry’s betrayal, what irks William is his brother’s claim, aired on the Oprah moanfest, that he is “trapped” in the Royal Family — a field hand and bond servant to “duty”.Of course, these days “duty” and Harry don’t exactly go together like horse and carriage.

His ­conversion from swashbuckling Army blade, ablaze with loyalty to Queen and country, has been notable for its startling rapidity. He now does something La Meghan calls “thriving”, which seems to be ­exclusively at the expense of his family.

It pains me to say it, William, but I could have told you so.

Not until the parched California hills freeze over will there be a reconciliation between you and the Prince of Sighs and Mother Teresa of ­Montecito. It would shatter Meghan’s crystalline “truth’ and suggest that recollections do indeed vary.

“Duty” is not just the foundations on which a Monarchy is built, There is familial duty, duty to one’s parents and grandparents, duty to one’s ­brothers and sisters. We have seen precious little of this from Harry and Meghan.

William, and other members of the Windsor clan, cannot get their heads around this. Not being Californian woke-ists, they do not expect others to bend to their ethics, or view of the world. William’s only “narrative” is to get on with it and not let the side down, something the Duke and Duchess of Sussex regard as bourgeois and archaic.

Meghan had already caused “irreversible damage” to her own family, by snubbing her half-sister, Samantha Markle, and first alienating then discarding her poor father. Now, with the steeliness of a gangland hitman, she has turned her sights on the most famous family in the world.

She had done nothing to deserve this fame, apart from persuading an impressionable prince to fall for her charms. And like all delusional narcissists, she felt not a jot of gratitude or loyalty to her benefactress.

Now the Queen can give her nothing she wants or needs, her Majesty has been discarded like a pair of worn-out ­Louboutins.

Could it be that Herself aspires to create an alternative royal family in the United States? To set herself up, not so much as a People’s Princess, but as a queen over the water? It would not be beyond Meg and Haz to start a sort of monarchy of the downtrodden, a protectorate of victims of sexism, racism, British newspaperism and other unbearable oppressions.

Thus, Meghan’s strategy depends on the Sussexes being against the Royal Family and its core values of duty and its hereditary principle.

As Prince ­William must realise, painful though it is to this increasingly impressive young man, a reconciliation just ain’t going to happen. Remember that Meghan and her haunted hubby have accused the Windsors of racism. How would their new, ethnic minority fan base feel if such a crime was forgiven?

And what of poor Kate, painted as some snobby creature out of Downton Abbey, who makes poor American girls cry. How could Meghan possibly make it up with such a monster?

No, there is nothing in it for the Poseurs over the Water.

I implore you, William, stop “reaching out” to this pair. Nothing’s sacred to them. Not loyalty, not discretion and certainly not duty.

Meghan is a Mean Girl and on this, recollections don’t vary.


Miggy said…
Article about the wedding 3 days earlier now in the DM too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9387275/Proof-Meghan-Harry-did-NOT-secret-early-wedding.html
I likr this footnote to the Sun article:


By Petronella Wyatt, author and journalist

“FURIOUS” is not an adjective one would normally associate with the Duke of ­Cambridge.

But, oh brother. The dice have been rolled and Wills has found himself on the receiving end of a pair of snake eyes, courtesy of Prince Harry.

Along with his anger at Harry’s betrayal, what irks William is his brother’s claim, aired on the Oprah moanfest, that he is “trapped” in the Royal Family — a field hand and bond servant to “duty”.

Of course, these days “duty” and Harry don’t exactly go together like horse and carriage.

His ­conversion from swashbuckling Army blade, ablaze with loyalty to Queen and country, has been notable for its startling rapidity.

He now does something La Meghan calls “thriving”, which seems to be ­exclusively at the expense of his family.

It pains me to say it, William, but I could have told you so.


Not until the parched California hills freeze over will there be a reconciliation between you and the Prince of Sighs and Mother Teresa of ­Montecito.

It would shatter Meghan’s crystalline “truth’ and suggest that recollections do indeed vary.

“Duty” is not just the foundations on which a Monarchy is built, There is familial duty, duty to one’s parents and grandparents, duty to one’s ­brothers and sisters.


We have seen precious little of this from Harry and Meghan.

William, and other members of the Windsor clan, cannot get their heads around this.

Not being Californian woke-ists, they do not expect others to bend to their ethics, or view of the world.

William’s only “narrative” is to get on with it and not let the side down, something the Duke and Duchess of Sussex regard as bourgeois and archaic.

Meghan had already caused “irreversible damage” to her own family, by snubbing her half-sister, Samantha Markle, and first alienating then discarding her poor father.

Now, with the steeliness of a gangland hitman, she has turned her sights on the most famous family in the world.

She had done nothing to deserve this fame, apart from persuading an impressionable prince to fall for her charms.

And like all delusional narcissists, she felt not a jot of gratitude or loyalty to her benefactress.

Now the Queen can give her nothing she wants or needs, her Majesty has been discarded like a pair of worn-out ­Louboutins.

Could it be that Herself aspires to create an alternative royal family in the United States? To set herself up, not so much as a People’s Princess, but as a queen over the water?

It would not be beyond Meg and Haz to start a sort of monarchy of the downtrodden, a protectorate of victims of sexism, racism, British newspaperism and other unbearable oppressions.

Thus, Meghan’s strategy depends on the Sussexes being against the Royal Family and its core values of duty and its hereditary principle.

As Prince ­William must realise, painful though it is to this increasingly impressive young man, a reconciliation just ain’t going to happen.

Remember that Meghan and her haunted hubby have accused the Windsors of racism.

How would their new, ethnic minority fan base feel if such a crime was forgiven? And what of poor Kate, painted as some snobby creature out of Downton Abbey, who makes poor American girls cry.

How could Meghan possibly make it up with such a monster?

No, there is nothing in it for the Poseurs over the Water.

I implore you, William, stop “reaching out” to this pair.

Nothing’s sacred to them. Not loyalty, not discretion and certainly not duty.

Meghan is a Mean Girl and on this, recollections don’t vary.
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

Snap! 😅
@Miggy - great minds, and all that!
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

Hahaha!

BTW - was looking at the volcano live feed that you posted just now and it's snowed overnight. It looks even more spectacular now!
@Miggy - pure Mordor!

Tolkien was heavily influenced by Iceland - the really old houses of turf & rock,(before they imported ready- to-assemble from Norway, ie proto-IKEA) were more like hobbit holes.
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

pure Mordor!

Yes, absolutely fantastic. :)
Found a great alternative name for the pair in a comment on my local news.

Markle and Spencer


To borrow from UK adverts:
...this is not just drama, this is M&S drama
SirStinxAlot said…
H$M could have been married in another country previously. Meghan is such a liar, you really never know. They supposedly have a photo of the private nuptials in their bedroom. At least one other person plus security would have been present. I do hope the RF continues to cut them off financially. I could care less about the titles, as long as they are not allowed to use them for personal gain in private business deals. Sorry to say but the RF needs to stop contact with them as well. Maybe a phone call around holidays and birthdays to wish them well. H$M will continue trashing as long as the RF give them ammunition.
@ Lurking With Spoon:

`Markle and Spencer' Brilliant!

I'm torn between `Ooh, Betty!' (`Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em - Michael Crawford as dim `Frank Spencer' - this is a remarkably apt clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miG3Db-1-pI
- about PR!)

- and Ratner saying some of his trinkets cost less than an M&S prawn sandwich, and wouldn't last as long. Now we know what sort of sandwich H needs in order to complete his picnic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ratner
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Big public Trooping the Colour not happening this year, as well as last:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/03/19/trooping-colour-cancelled-second-year-plans-pared-windsor-castle/


OFF TOPIC DISCUSSING COVID ALERT: I can't say that I'm surprised; the news of the rise in cases outside of the UK is alarming. In our state, the age of vaccination for people with no medical conditions requiring a vaccination has gone down to age 50 starting today. That should* cut down the deaths in the most susceptible age groups. The Governor did say that he expects that *anybody* over 18 can get a vaccine by May.

*The Brazilian COVID variant is concerning in that it appears to be killing previously healthy younger adults and some newscasts from South America are talking about parents and children dying together. The Federal government is encouraging and enabling an invasion of Central and South Americans across the US border without so much as a health check and are distributing them throughout the US. If huge clusters of the Brazilian variant break out and begin killing our populations (again), I wonder how they're going to spin it this time.
SwampWoman said…
SirStinxAlot said...
H$M could have been married in another country previously. Meghan is such a liar, you really never know. They supposedly have a photo of the private nuptials in their bedroom. At least one other person plus security would have been present.


Aaaargh, I'm going to have to poke my mind's eye out with a STICK at the mental picture that presented!
brown-eyed said…
Covid vaccine

@JennS asked about vaccine side effects. My spouse and I have had both shots of Pfitzer vaccine. I had no side effects at all and no soreness. My spouse felt “fuzzy” for an hour after the 2nd shot, but then was fine. We were literally in and out of the vaccine appointment in 30 minutes—from walking in the door to getting back in the car to drive home.

@Swampwoman, sorry you felt so bad after your shots, and especially sorry the sheep got you.
Happy Camper said…
Snarkyatherbest said…
Ah news reports that meghan wants to be the peace maker:


@Snarkyatherbest: She doesn’t want to be the peacemaker. She wants something for herself.

My guess is this blind item in Crazy Days and Nights that ran Monday, May 31, 2021:(or else the Harkles are running out of money)

Blind Item #4
The one thing the alliterate one wants more than anything is for the children to have titles. The way that would normally happen is when the current royal in charge, passes away. However, the new royal in charge has the discretion to not award those titles. So, why on this Earth would that be the person you tick off the most. 
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