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 Let's continue the conversation about the Sussexes...

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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said...
@Ava C

At the time of the Cambridge marriage, it did bother me that in the 21st century, a vibrant and educated woman like Catherine felt that waiting around for her man, a man who was incredibly slow to make up his mind, was the ‘safe bet’. She’s got a lot of energy, and certainly keeps her self fit, but I did think she could apply herself to more than tennis and shooting photos for Daddy’s website while she waited for William to make up his mind. Growing up rich is a great disincentive to work—And Catherine’s parents are multimillionaires, even though they have worked for that money “in grubby trade”. Catherine does not seem to be a spoiled person, but if she had been raised by her ambitious mother to focus above all in marrying well, Any sort of entry-level job she could’ve taken after university would absolutely pale in comparison to becoming the future Princess of Wales. But even if a typical 9-to-5 office job would have been logistically difficult for a serious girlfriend of a Wales man— given the resources of her family and her comfortable life that meant that she was not obligated to earn a paycheck in order to pay the rent on a bachelor girl flat and subsist on beans and toast like other recent university graduates, Kate could have found something more meaningful to do with her time. She could’ve found some volunteer opportunity in the arts, using her art history degree, or tutored children in reading with a literacy Council or Giving her Athleticism, thrown herself into sports charities. Beatrice trained for the London marathon to raise money for a charity; Catherine could have done similar in her local area.

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Seems as if the press will never release us from the "Waity Katie" business .... but perhaps there's something to it, albeit not what we may expect.

Could it possibly be that Catherine wanted nothing more than to be a wife and mother? And if Carole Middleton encouraged her to marry well, she took that seriously? Sounds like quite an aristo thing to do, IMO. I also think that, reading stories about Catherine and William's days at university, how they enjoyed their carefree lives. I dunno, I guess I don't know enough about that to make a judgement.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Meant to add that, love her and admire her as I do for so many reasons, Catherine to me is kind of .... well, not H grade level thick, but not destined to be an intellectual bright light.
lizzie said…
Here's an article dated April 22, 2021.

https://www.brides.com/prince-charles-camilla-parker-bowles-relationship-timeline-5179379

The headline is:

Everything to Know About Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles' Relationship

Charles and Camilla have been married since 2005.

While I think press outlets should use a person's preferred/legal name in published stories, I'm not sure why the use of "Middleton" is such a hot-button issue. Everyone knows the Cambridges are married.

There was a writer active on Quora (a man and I do think that's potentially relrvant) who repeatedly argued agsinst the use of Middleton, stating that after the wedding, "Catherine and Kate Middleton don't exist anymore."

I'm not sure most women go to the altar with that sentiment in mind.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

It bothers me that people try to judge other people about their life's priorities. At the moment in time that the world is trying to be more inclusive, some still judge a woman's desire to prioritize a home and family life as being somehow not up to standard.

Catherine is doing a great job at what she's doing. She seems happy. That's all that matters.

I am a woman working in high tech and I know that not everyone is cut out or even wants to do intellectual work. That's perfectly fine. The world needs all types of people

Ian's Girl said…
@Girl with a Hat, thank you. I do feel like women who choose being wife and mother over a career get very short shrift these days. ( And I have never had the slightest interest in having children. Or a career, for that matter.)
Surely the consort of a king has a vital, national, role to play in ensuring how her children develop physically, mentally and emotionally to be the best they can be for the most unusual life ahead of them? The role of a monarch carries great responsibility, even if it bestows great privilege.

Life being what it is, any, possibly each, of the Cambridge children may end up on the throne - all 3 of Henry VIII's children became monarch, 2 of Charles I's sons, 2 of James' II's, daughters, 2 out of the 15 of George III did.

Think of the times the Heir hasn't made it - Arthur (Henry VII's eldest); Henry (James I & VI's); Frederick (Geo.II's); Charlotte (Geo IV's); Eddie (Edward VII's); and David (Geo V's).

The present problems have their roots in the mess C & D made of bringing up their boys - thank goodness William was `the sensible one', capable of overcoming the setbacks.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Ian's Girl,

You're more than welcome. I think everyone's contribution to the world should be appreciated, that is, if they aren't hurting anyone else.

I have to work to support myself and I enjoy it, but if I were to win the lottery, I'm not sure I would be enjoying it as much. ;-)

Ava C said…
@Girl with a Hat - I am a woman working in high tech and I know that not everyone is cut out or even wants to do intellectual work. That's perfectly fine. The world needs all types of people.

This reminds me of that recent discussion Hikari and I and other Nutties were having about the 1980s. Given my own choice I would only ever have wanted to be a wife and mother. I think it's fine to dedicate yourself to that if you do it properly, as women used to be brought up to do. I have a collection of housekeeping manuals covering a century or so and a beautiful, rare copy of an 18th century one. You can see it was very much a job.

In the 1980s you weren't supposed to want to 'just' be a wife and mother any more and I found it very difficult, being in my 20s then. It was something you kept to yourself. We have now achieved a bit more of a balance but it's not an even balance. To some extent you still need to justify that particular choice. We see that in the way Catherine was and is judged.

I know I was critical of the long lead-in time the Cambridges had after marriage, and I knew about the Queen's halcyon early marriage in Malta, but again the standards are different for senior royals. If you marry an heir to the throne you marry the job. I was worried Catherine wouldn't adjust but I wouldn't criticise her for anything now. She has my warmest regard for helping to make it OK to devote the bulk of your time to your family (big proviso - if you can afford it). She's proved her critics wrong. Now her children are firmly established on the roads they need to follow to become healthy, well-adjusted adults.

We're going through a period of accelerating social change and I do hope that part of that will be not judging people by their life choices and occupations. Things are immeasurably better than they were when I was a young adult. As long as the excesses of wokedom can be reined in, I am optimistic. I'm sure Catherine will be playing her part in how it all develops.
Grisham said…
I’ve been forgetting to say that I think the DM article is correct in that Catherine and William figured out a great way to deal with the paps by releasing their own chosen photos of their kids on special days. I know Harry in particular probably hates anything that feels they are obligated to put themselves on display, but I’m sure the misses would love to make money on pics.

As for the CNN correspondent, she has a full time job and lives in New York and I’m sure you all have figured out that for me that is too much of a rabbit hole to go down. I went to Twitter that someone linked (sorry, can’t remember who) and that Twitter account is absolutely cyber stalking the woman, her colleagues and CNN. As a result, they all blocked that person, who then sees that as “proof” she is complicit.

This bothers me greatly because I have recently found out that my bay shit crazy unhinged and dangerous narc is cyber stalking me. I feel this nutty account is secure because there is nothing in here that links to who I am other than general information— HOWEVER, my narc found me and found one piece of specific information I put on a different website that she blabbed to people (thanks, narc, for slipping up so I now know what you did and how you did it since that was one specific piece of information I had placed in only one place... not royal related).

So it’s a round robin with obsessed people: “Brynn poses as Meghan and that is brynn’s child and she blocked me so that is proof she is in on the fraud”..... but neglecting to mention when you have a stalker, no contact and no response is the way to handle it. They thrive in any acknowledgement, even negativity.

Plus, if you scroll down, that Twitter account had some different opinions on other people that seemed crazy also... it was the last thing I looked at before I fell asleep, so I can’t remember what that was or even the Twitter account name. I believe it might have been about the queen..... oh, yes, I believe it was about how the younger Mountbatten woman who helped Phillip at Wood Farm was his long time lover and companion, so this person is obviously into royal conspiracy theories.

I mean, even the queen can’t get away from drama or suspicions about her own pregnancies, such as is Andrew Lord Porchie’s child. Why is he in the succession? Etc.


My thoughts for today....
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
As long as life is long, there will never be a substitute for Mother.

IMO.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Ava, yes I agree.

Whenever I read your name, I recall Ava Gardner.
Grisham said…
All I wanted to be is a wife and mother. I had a short career and haven’t worked since my second pregnancy in the 90s. I’ve been very happy, my kids are happy and my husband liked having me available all the time and flexible for things like spur of the moment trips, etc. I agree Catherine’s job is so important right now to raise their children in a loving stable household, and I’ve been glad for the piece of the pandemic that has kept William home with them (more than usual). Their kids will be grateful for having their parents’ time.
Grisham said…
Oh, I just checked and it seems Brynn Gringas alluded to the conspiracy theories.

She quoted a Patricia Arquette tweet to her and some others that says “good to know you guys have whack job conspiracy theorists too” and Brynn replied “Glad I’m not alone @pattyarquette considering their theories are endless and based off of a very personal post about my recent miscarriage”
Grisham said…
One last thing.... Brynn’s son is like 3 or older so the idea doesn’t make sense at all. Plus, he doesn’t have Strabismus, but that is all I’m going to say about that. Someone tried to make pics like he had the eye condition, but they only put a pic of one eye, so it seems clear to me he was looking up and over at something and it’s not Strabismus.

I don’t want to deal with this part any more though because I am uncomfortable with the cyber stalking of this woman. It’s wrong.
AnT said…
hmmm.....

For the Nutties who are interested, you might want to read this 2014 article from "Toronto Life" by Emily Landau that pretty much confirms what you are thinking. A few industry friends in Vancouver and LA have mocked her for years. I was able to find this article just now, which they were once hooting over. I will post a few key sections below the link, since the article itself is too long to waste space on here. But those interested in this topic will probably find it...enlightening:

https://torontolife.com/city/in-lurv-with-lainey/


PART ONE:

In Lurv With Lainey: Elaine Lui’s rise to the top of the gossip pantheon
BY EMILY LANDAU | APRIL 2, 2014


BY EMILY LANDAU | PHOTOGRAPH BY ANDREW SOULE

Elaine Lui is 40 but has the bearing of a 16-year-old, boundless and brash, her body language filled with aggressive eye rolls, giggles and wild gesticulation. Sitting in a green room at the CTV studios on Queen West, writing a post for her blog, LaineyGossip, she takes a long drag from her e-cigarette, a bejewelled bauble that looks like a tube of lip gloss and emits a trail of vanilla-scented vapour. Then she resumes clacking away at her keyboard.

That e-cigarette goes everywhere she does, doubling as a calling card and neurotic crutch. She sucks it surreptitiously at restaurants, blowing vapour out the side of her mouth. When she gets excited, she waves it around like a Canada Day ­sparkler. At parties, it dangles between her fingers while she stands back and monitors the room. She started smoking it in 2012, giving up regular cigarettes soon after. In one slender, shimmery package, it crystallizes Lui’s paradoxical persona: she’s at once a bubbly, bitchy, perma-teen gossip queen and a shrewd social anthropologist with an arch Dorothy Parker wit. She polarizes readers with her candor and celebrity partisanship.

[...]

CONTINUES ---- SEE my PART TWO I'll post ---->
AnT said…
PART TWO:

In Lurv With Lainey: Elaine Lui’s rise to the top of the gossip pantheon
BY EMILY LANDAU | APRIL 2, 2014


[...]

Elaine Lui started honing her gossip receptors as a kid, when she spent hours by the mah-jong table at the family home in Toronto. Her parents, Judy and Bernard, immigrated here from Hong Kong in 1970, taking whatever odd jobs they could find—they stapled papers, washed dishes, cleaned hotel rooms. Eventually, her dad found stable work as an accountant. When Elaine was six, her parents divorced and her mother returned to Hong Kong. Her parents reunited when Elaine was 16, but in the intervening years she lived with her dad and would visit her mother on holidays. “My mother and her friends would talk about Mr. Hong’s won ton stand and the Chinese actresses on TV,” Lui says. “That was how my mother was communicating with her friends, how they exchanged ideas and expectations.”

Bernard was determined to give his daughter a quality education. After hearing that the Toronto French School was the best in the city, he worked night shifts and weekends to save enough money for tuition. Lui credits him with fostering her consuming work ethic.

During her tenure at TFS, she was one of only a handful of Asian kids. She saw white people wherever she looked: at school, on TV, in magazines. “I wanted to be white,” she says. “I wanted to not have weird lunches.” These days, Lui uses her blog to analyze the intricacies of feng shui and the Chinese zodiac, the mainlanders’ obsessions with French luxury goods and ­Hollywood’s exclusion of Chinese actors from the star system. Her mother is also a major character on LaineyGossip. Lui calls Judy the Chinese Squawking Chicken—it’s a literal English translation of her childhood nickname, Tsiahng Gai, which she earned because of her shrill voice.

[...]

Lui and Szenowicz decided not to have children—partly so they could focus on their careers, mostly because they didn’t want them. “I don’t [want to be a parent] for all the ‘superficial’ reasons,” she writes in her book. “The time, the sacrifice, my career, the desire to travel without having to worry about dependents, the freedom to sleep in, to spend money on myself.” She’s rankled by the notion that her life will somehow be incomplete without kids—a subject that comes up often on LaineyGossip, where she criticizes celebrities like Jessica Simpson, who sold her baby photos to People. “I hear it all the time. ‘You won’t understand, Lainey, until you have a kid.’ It’s as if I can never be actualized as a person, as a woman,” she tells me. “If I had to have that fight, I could say I love my blog just as much as you love your child.”
Hikari said…
@AnT,

That roast of Lainey Lui is hilarious. So she's now 47 years old and still stuck mentally at 16, "Queen of the High School Mean Girls".

"Candor and celebrity partisanship" is the epitome of diplomacy in writing.

Seriously, what nearly 50-year-old still goes by 'Lainey'? That sounds like a 4-year-old girl at preschool or a junior varsity cheerleader. What a pointless life she leads, rather like her celebrity idol, Smeg.

I really take issues with 'shrewd social anthropologist with an arch Dorothy Parker wit.' As if. Dorothy Parker was a goddess. She'd say you can lead a wh*ore (and her wh*remonger) to culture but you can't make them think. Sounds like Lainey and Harry's tart are sharing one brain with Messica Mulroney and boy does it show.
AnT said…
And again for those who didn't care to wade though the article (though I only posted about 1/12th of it), the key comment from Lainey, BFF of Harry's wife, about having children.

****(PS: absolutely no judgment from me as I have no children either, though I think kids are great, and many of our friends are childfree by choice and it's all good!! Kids and parenting etc etc are not for everyone, just as mountain-climbing, performing opera, or being a superhero are not for everyone. Respect the personal decisions. I am only posting this per the discussion about it yesterday in relation to her)****


In Lurv With Lainey: Elaine Lui’s rise to the top of the gossip pantheon
BY EMILY LANDAU | APRIL 2, 2014

Lui and Szenowicz decided not to have children—partly so they could focus on their careers, mostly because they didn’t want them. “I don’t [want to be a parent] for all the ‘superficial’ reasons,” she writes in her book. “The time, the sacrifice, my career, the desire to travel without having to worry about dependents, the freedom to sleep in, to spend money on myself.” She’s rankled by the notion that her life will somehow be incomplete without kids—a subject that comes up often on LaineyGossip, where she criticizes celebrities like Jessica Simpson, who sold her baby photos to People. “I hear it all the time. ‘You won’t understand, Lainey, until you have a kid.’ It’s as if I can never be actualized as a person, as a woman,” she tells me. “If I had to have that fight, I could say I love my blog just as much as you love your child.”
Girl with a Hat said…
So Lainey Lui criticizes Jessica Simpson for merching her baby photos to People. I wonder what mental gymnastics Lainey has to do to remain on friendly terms with Harry's wife who makes a living merching her alleged child, Archie. Lainey also found belly cupping to be very vulgar, and yet Lainey continues to take Harry's wife's side on her blog on an almost daily basis.

As an aside - By the DM et all not printing that pap shot of Meghan and Archie on Louis' birthday, Harry's wife may have lost a lot of money.
Miggy said…
Lady C video.

Lady C CONFIRMS Harry's frosty reception/Meghan &The Queen/Philip's money/Diana movie & Harry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBhhVlt3OxI
AnT said…
@Hikari,

Exactly!!! I completely share your sentiments. Dorothy Parker indeed! Dorothy would have spit-roasted this Elaine queen. The article is sooooooo suck-up, schmaltzy bad, but in a way that would probably make you laugh.

Here is a comment someone called Stella wrote:

I've seen this woman around Toronto the last few years and must say i feel sorry for her, she is a 40 year old woman gossiping about things she could have no real idea about, she lacks talent and charm and comes across as a desperate older woman trying to keep her job relevant. god toronto life, if this woman is famous than you must be the new york times.

Another comment you'll see, left in 2014 (poster's initials -- JC):

Where to begin with this one?! First of all, I’m told…she doesn’t really have the contacts she claims to have to provide sources. Third and fourth sources does not a true story make. She’s actually known in the industry for swiping what she can and turning it into her own and just recently got caught double selling a story. Although she won’t show it on camera, the girl is nervous underneath…about being found out. She knows her time is pretty much up and here’s another tidbit…the girl can’t even get the proper accreditation for Cannes. Has anyone noticed they stopped sending her and in fact even brought her back early the last time for not bringing the goods. She’s what we would call a “fangirl”, always on the sidelines, never invited to the actual parties. No wonder she drinks. But somehow the producers of The Social believed her, then again…what’s that ripoff show supposed to be about? I could go into a frickin’ Earl’s Restaurant if I wanted to hear that kind of chatter. Low on substance. And if you don’t think she reads these comments on the forums about her, think again. She’s that scared of her future so she’s trying to swing it to work it longer but “I’m told” things aren’t what they used to be. tick tock
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

Lainey is jumping on the woke bandwagon. She only pushes POC actors, designers, directors, etc and tries to tell us how handsome certain Korean pop stars or African American actors are on a daily basis. The Asian movies should all win the Oscar, the Chinese actresses are all the best dressed, etc.

I knew she hated white people and now I see it's because she wished she was white. She has a longstanding hatred of Catherine Cambridge, probably because Catherine is everything Lainey could never hope to be.

Oh, and Lainey is so culturally naive and ignorant, she thinks that Poland, the country that her husband's ancestors originated from, is the cultural jewel of Europe.
AnT said…
and....could this be why she is wildly cultivating Harry and his wife:

The book is part of Lui’s ongoing campaign to diversify her expertise beyond celebrities, a mission that also includes The Social. That project came about last year when CTV decided to produce a daily talk show modelled on The View. After a protracted audition process, packed with screen tryouts and chemistry tests with potential fellow hosts, Lui was cast alongside CP24 anchor Melissa Grelo, eTalk reporter Traci Melchor and relationship expert Cynthia Loyst for a live panel show that mixes celebrity and expert interviews, lifestyle segments and girlfriend gab time.

...and a bit more of the sycophant writer inadvertently snarking on her:

When Lui landed the job, she and ­Szenowicz bought a house—their first—in the Beach, a snug semi with a little yard for their beagles, Marcus and Barney. When I asked her why she picked the Beach, she didn’t hesitate. “The dogs. We needed somewhere with a lot of green space, near water, where the people were dog friendly. Plus, there are lots of schools, which means they can run around the fields on weekends.” Even people without kids want a good catchment area.

AnT said…
By the way, for those in deep, I posted the comments on the LL article because of the language used in the last "JC" comment --- which I'd never read before today, but which makes me go "HMMM!" because it sort of echoes those mysterious "torontopaper1" tweets that have been cryptically sussing out Harry's wife for a few years now......does anyone else here know what I mean? The ending "tick tock" wording of the JC comment on the Toronto Life made me jump & wonder.....someone knows more about her, will it emerge?

Anyway last tidbit from the voluminous article, this re SOHO HOUSE --- it makes me wonder more about LL's role as Harry's wife's press BFF (along with melty Omid Rabies, and Toronto's own Messica).....

A friend of mine who works the TIFF circuit and had seen Lui in action noticed that while most reporters approach stars directly at parties, gingerly sidling up to them and fawning, Lui stands back and observes. She remembers a Soho House party in 2011, where the guest list included George Clooney, Keira Knightley, Bono and Jon Hamm. “Lainey had no desire to befriend them, but she noticed everything.” The resulting post was a meticulous character study about how much ­Clooney seemed to like Ewan McGregor, and how C-lister Emile Hirsch monopolized Clooney for 15 minutes, clinging to his side and smarmily sucking up. Lui reported similar machinations at last year’s Weinstein Oscar party. “The elite occupied the inner chamber,” she explained
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT, great info.

By the way, I think Lui's interpretation of what she sees is often ridiculous.

She does this thing where she looks at a pick or a video clip, and assumes what's going on. She's been off the mark on almost all of the things she pretends to pick up from people's body language or hidden meanings. Way, way off.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

I know what you mean -- and this old article while confirming a lot also weirdly reminds me of the background of Harry's wife, in an almost mirror-like way:

1. The seeming wish to be white
2. Mother departs for years, lone child raised as an only child by dad til the teens
3. Dad works hard to spoil said child with a fancy, costly education
4. Child, now an adult, pulls mom back in for merchandising and writing purposes (book, Chinese horoscopes, culture bump)
5. Child, now an adult, continues to behave as a loud, crude, caustic teen
6. Child, now an adult, consumed with money, marching, selling (LL wrote a book to sell, MM got a crown and a kid)

Now -- I have close friends in Poland from two elite, moneyed arts (art, music, film, acting) families, so they might take a bit of offense at your comment about Poland being the cultural jewel of Europe to some degree --thought they adore Paris most of all. I do think the rise of Krakow in the arts etc is changing some thoughts. But, I know what you mean with regard to the way LL makes her self-serving statements.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Agreed re LL's interpretations -- she's often/usually way way off through her endless prism of teen-like desire to get attention by being a caustic raging 8itch.

My friends often snarked that she's a wannabe fantasist whose words are swallowed whole without much challenge. Even in a crowded tacky gossip field, she's considered a bottom-feeder despite her Canadian fame.
AnT said…
@GIrl with a Hat,

You may like this part of the LL article --- and again, how (to me) it
relates yet again to the way Harry's wife seems to operate (mimic?):

Some of her critics berate her for playing favourites with celebrities, others for her informal, juvenile tone, still others for perpetuating the lowbrow muck of celebrity gossip. Fair enough. Lui, who’s certainly written her share of attack posts, shrugs off the hate. “It’s part of living on the Internet,” she says. If she’s striking that many nerves, she figures, she must be doing something right.


Remember too, Lainey uses her career for money. Harry's wife needed a baby to secure her bag. I don't think that makes Harry's wife a more maternally-inclined figure.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT, I have many friends from HK or whose family is from HK who are just like Lainey Lui. I mean the life path as well - remaining an overgrown mean girl well into their 40's, not liking kids, treating other people like they are inferior to you, trying to score tickets to the hottest event (when I lived in Nice, these friends would contact me daily about wanting to stay with me during the Cannes film festival), lauging at other people about their clothing choices while they feel that they are the second Coco Chanel, overexercising so that they can stay slim, etc etc etc. It's like they are all following a template for their lives.

I wonder if Harry's wife also has this kind of template for her life and what group it's based on.
AnT said…
VF, 2018, on Harry's wife in Toronto (again, just picking out some key sections):

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/04/meghan-markle-is-going-royal-can-her-friends-come-too

......But Toronto-based gossip writer and TV host Elaine “Lainey” Lui says that, while Markle wasn’t a constant presence on the scene, she was in with what would be considered, “by Toronto standards, the social influencers.” Lui adds, “I wouldn’t say she was the type to be out every single night, but I would say that she was pretty selective about the events she did attend, and that crowd was Toronto society.”

Markle’s inner circle (etc)....

As royal commentator and author Heather Cocks told me, perhaps the surest sign that the Toronto friendships are authentic is that we haven’t heard much from the socialite squad since Markle and Harry’s relationship went public. [...]

“Her Harry-era crew is totally on lockdown,” Lui notes. “I think that’s super-smart of them, because, first, they’re hoping for an invitation [to the wedding]—why would you jeopardize that? And number two, her social circle in Toronto is quite affluent. They don’t need to sell a story to the Daily Mail for $10,000.”

But it’s hard to make any predictions about what Markle’s future in the royal family will bring. It is possible that Markle will chart a different course from those before her. Govani notes that she has a “Lone Ranger” quality to her, despite having so many friends. Her worldliness and independent streak could very well be an advantage. Govani remembers talking to Markle at a Toronto party about the time she spent in Buenos Aires (she worked at the U.S. Embassy there for a few months during her college years) and contemplating how adaptable she seemed: “One thing that makes me think she could easily absorb the role is that she’s picked herself up and lived in many different parts of the world,” he says. “She’s a bit of a shape-shifter, able to adjust to any social context.”
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat said:

"@AnT, I have many friends from HK or whose family is from HK who are just like Lainey Lui. I mean the life path as well - remaining an overgrown mean girl well into their 40's, not liking kids, treating other people like they are inferior to you,.....

^^^^^. fascinating perspective and excellent points! I only know two women from/living in HK, who I knew while living in EU -- met them at parties in Germany and Italy. And so your comment made me sit up because... hmmm, yes, both are actually quite like the HK women you knew and have described.

So that really makes me think you're onto something, especially if we link LL's story to MM, and apply it to this key thought you've shared:

[...] I wonder if Harry's wife also has this kind of template for her life and what group it's based on.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

the other thing about these HK women is that they dream of having a white boyfriend and/or husband. Lui is the same. She goes on and on about POC but ended up marrying a white guy with a Polish background.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Interesting re the other Hong Kong women you know, and LL and her husband selection. Again, MM may be following a template.

Now, I'll really make your hair stand up with this next Lainey life"template" for the future life of MM:

Lui majored in French and history at Western and, after graduation, took a job with Rogers, training employees to install Internet connections. In January 2000, she ran a seminar in Vancouver, where she met Jacek Szenowicz, a ­handsome, sleepy-eyed Rogers manager who was enrolled in one of her sessions. He initially pursued a relationship with Lui over email. After five months of long-distance dating, and 14 real-life days spent together, Lui moved to Vancouver and in with ­Szenowicz. In November 2001, they were married.

* Email long distance relationship
* only 14 real life days together
* but moved right in
*met and married in under 2 years

.......Girl with a Hat, I think we've cracked this.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

Lui also has that strabysmus in her eye.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT

absent mother as well.
Pantsface said…
@Lurking with Spoon
I typed Montecito into what3words and the three words given are... tools, commented, crowns. I can't help laughing at it. The tools who think they should have crowns are definitely commented on!

You couldn't make it up :) lol I only discovered what3words recently in my new job, engineers use it to pinpoint the exact location of electricity sub stations, particularly in new build areas, so thought it might be more up to date than google maps - but I'm in the UK, don't know if it's the same in USA, good luck with your sleuthing x
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

I guess this might further support my theory of mimicry and murky friendship, as well as your suspicions re the LL-MM twinning template and real life hypocrisy too....


As her blog gained momentum, Lui started to take sides and play favourites. The deeper she immersed herself in the celebrity world, the more obsessed she became with the industry’s hypocrisies and artifice. She cultivated a gimmick, branding herself as an opinionated loudmouth. Lui slammed the film industry for ghettoizing Asian and black actors. She berated female stars like Jennifer Garner for sacrificing their careers to support their husbands’ fame. She sneered at reality TV stars for walking the same red carpets as A-listers. She simultaneously stoked controversy, riled up her readers, and slyly inserted herself, her friends, her mother and her ballsy opinions into every post.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Finally --- She blasted Jennifer Garner, but **hypocrisy alert** her own husband quit his job to support LL' life and work --just as Harry quit his job and life to support his wife's plans and dreams... TEMPLATE!!

(and note the ad base data here too.....)

As the site grew, Lui partnered with Uptrend Media, a Canadian agency devoted to online advertising. “They were like me—young, boutique, hungry. I was really optimistic,” she says. Uptrend gathered market research on Lainey’s readers, and found they were mostly urban women with household incomes of more than $100,000 per year. They used that intel to lure early advertisers like Procter and Gamble, and Johnson and Johnson, and split the revenue with Lui. Szenowicz quit his job at Rogers to work on Lui’s site.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Yes, agreed, I also noted the maternal absence in my list above:

2. Mother departs for years, lone child raised as an only child by dad til the teens

But didn't notice the similar adult strabismus --- this is now truly uncanny, and a bit unsettling.

She's a life poacher.
DeerAngels said…
Please bare with this, caffeine didn't work today.

Is it possible that Harry got another woman pregnant? Rent a doll/actor until needed? Harry's wife cosplays being pregnant? Pretty sure one could see a wide white band in the tree pic, right along where her legs were bent.

Are they threatening to name the mail order baby Diana? Aw, they seemed to have lost the invite again for upcoming Hollywood award show.
xxxxx said…
Lainey Lui .... what a silly pointless stooge. H and M are silly and pointless so they attract the same. Same as H/M, this odius Lainey Lui is good for laughs, some comic relief. But lets admit her career is doing great. She has a blog that my bet it is profitable. LL is still on TV and Jessica Mulroney is not. JM has been banished and vanished over a minor tiff with a jealous POC who was looking to get a noted white person's scalp. To enhance this POC's fame and fortune and to enhance her status within Toronto's POCs.

Some people call this Clown World. These on line/twitter mobbings and shenanigans.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said,

"As the site grew, Lui partnered with Uptrend Media, a Canadian agency devoted to online advertising. “They were like me—young, boutique, hungry. I was really optimistic,” she says. Uptrend gathered market research on Lainey’s readers, and found they were mostly urban women with household incomes of more than $100,000 per year. They used that intel to lure early advertisers like Procter and Gamble, and Johnson and Johnson, and split the revenue with Lui. Szenowicz quit his job at Rogers to work on Lui’s site."

Link??
AnT said…
@Lt Nyota Uhura,

The link is this, an article from 2014:

https://torontolife.com/city/in-lurv-with-lainey/

I also posted it above with the first post of several I made about this article. If you want to read more of the article, the first of my comments was published on April 24, beginning at 8:07 PM as follows:

hmmm.....

For the Nutties who are interested, you might want to read this 2014 article from "Toronto Life" by Emily Landau that pretty much confirms what you are thinking. A few industry friends in Vancouver and LA have mocked her for years. I was able to find this article just now, which they were once hooting over. I will post a few key sections below the link, since the article itself is too long to waste space on here. But those interested in this topic will probably find it...enlightening:

https://torontolife.com/city/in-lurv-with-lainey/


AnT said…

What's in the 2021 Oscar presenters' gift bag
(Value $205,000)
that Harry's wife won't be getting tomorrow



https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnchmielewski/2021/04/22/inside-the-200000-oscar-2021-gift-bag-from-a-spa-retreat-to-poetry-for-neanderthals/?sh=308466be1c71


Every year, celebrity and product-placement marketing company Distinctive Assets puts together a gift bag that the 25 nominees for best actor, actress and director awards take home with them, whether they win or not.

Each of this year’s swag bags is valued at around $205,000. That’s a combined value of $5.1 million, just $1 million shy of the worldwide box office for this year’s best picture front-runner, Nomadland, which tells the unglamorous tale of a woman who’s lost everything in the Great Recession.

[...]

Several of the gifts promote health and wellbeing, like the medical-grade masks from 99Guard, IV on Call concierge vitamin intravenous infusions to bolster immunity (or recover from a hangover), C60 Purple Power antioxidants and Violet breast health supplements. Other gifts with a new age feel include the Taiyi Institute's TYQA sound acupuncture disc, which uses soundwaves instead of needles to promote healing, and Soul Shropshire’s candles are made from essential oils.

That’s not to say there aren’t lavish getaways in the mix. Consider the $12,000, four-night stay for two at Golden Door, a Southern California spa. Those looking for a more secluded, Covid-safe get-away can retreat for a three-night stay at the Pater Noster Lighthouse on the island of Hamneskär on the west coast of Sweden, where the light-keeper’s home on the rocky isle has been converted into a nine-room boutique hotel. “It doesn't get much more socially distant than that,” said Fary.


Read more at the link:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnchmielewski/2021/04/22/inside-the-200000-oscar-2021-gift-bag-from-a-spa-retreat-to-poetry-for-neanderthals/?sh=308466be1c71
AnT said…
^^^^. Apologies, I wrote "PRESENTERS" when the bags are for the NOMINEES.

Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT, I had a person in my life who had a very similar early life to mine. We came to know each other in a foreign city but I assumed it would mean we would become close friends. We couldn't as we were too different, or rather, mirror images of each other. She was a narc and I am a narc magnet.
AnT said…

And yes, everyone, Harry's wife, the multi-millionaire Netflix producer/director philanthropist, took time to merch her "nursery school run" coat, mask, jeans and shoes:

https://news.yahoo.com/meghan-markle-madewell-maternity-jeans-134932335.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFCGfOOqdXZTuGn0f-l42BSDu-8io9DTRpdlrYs9xyA1zrrYBOttEvMPcVadEDO3qO3tHzrf2xbOmCidxbR01rouDEucLMz_ALdRYSGl1DLkuvGJBfGsAiKz8lVr2CA47cIexDYNrecmLq2XoQSNDl6Qvy5TSMddcJDrRr3Ax0lw

Dressed in a collection of laid-back styles from some of her go-to brands, Markle was seen wearing Cuyana’s $295 USD/$369 CAD Pleat-Back Anorak, a Rothy’s face mask made from recycled plastic, and a pair of cream Valentino Garavani Roman Rockstud Flat Mules.

The true standout from her look had to be the 39-year-old’s stunning take on maternity fashion. She wore a pair of DL1961 Emma Skinny Maternity Instasculpt jeans, which fans originally thought were Madewell’s Maternity Side-Panel Perfect Vintage Jeans.

If you’re in need of a new pair of pregnancy-friendly denim, you’ll want to act quickly because these "perfect" Duchess-approved jeans are, as expected, already selling fast."
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Ugh. I'm sorry to hear that. I've spent time in the narc magnet club, too. It's not fun.
AnT said…

NEW, FROM THE INDEPENDENT:

PRINCE CHARLES AND PRINCE WILLIAM ‘MORE UNITED THAN EVER’, CLAIMS ROYAL EXPERT

‘The notion of “sovereign” is what has reunited them,’ Katie Nicholl claims

After the recent death of Prince Philip, Prince Charles and his son Prince William are reportedly “more united than ever” in their vision for the future of the monarchy, a royal expert claims.

Speaking on True Royalty TV’s programme, The Royal Beat, Katie Nicholl explained that while the Duke of Edinburgh’s death marked “the end of an era”, it was going to “open up a conversation that would tiptoe around those big future issues about where the monarchy is going to go and that inevitable handing over of power”.



.....There is more, but the paywall leapt up and stopped me, sorry.
jessica said…
Meghan wasn’t able to adjust to upper class society of British culture. She moved from LA to Toronto for an acting gig. Not exactly the Middle East or Zimbabwe. She never changed her social structure or status until Harry and couldn’t hack it. At all. Now she’s embarrassing the BRF and all European Aristocrats.

AnT, you point out the conundrum that is Markle- pimping out clothes for $5-15k paycheck, whilst trying to associate with deep pockets and old money. What’s her deal?

If she only stuck around for 5 years in the BRF, she’d have goodwill and amazing contracts. She wouldn’t need to merch. It’s too low level.

I just don’t get it.
AnT said…
interesting comment on LSA:

If she has her baby in the next week or two people will side eye that miscarriage story. So my question is, does she know she can't keep the birth certificate secret? I'm really curious. Even if she has a home birth it's still public record.
AnT said…

@jessica,

Everything you said is why I am also side-eyeing that bizarre VF chunk from the woman acting like Harry's Wife ever made a go of it internationally anywhere.

She spent ten seconds in S America. courtesy of an uncle she now ignores, before allegedly sloping off to Spain with an older rich man she'd met. She lived like a typical cosseted studio baby (here's your flat & your job) in Canada. She failed quickly in the UK and spit at the people, culture and royals on the way out.

AHHHHH but here you go from an Express article about how Doria was a travel agent:

Doria is currently a yoga instructor living in Los Angeles, although rumours suggest she could soon move to the UK to join her daughter.

Meghan travelled extensively before she became a Royal Family member, often choosing Europe for her favourite destinations.

Regularly posting on her Instagram, which she shut down shortly before getting engaged to Prince Harry, she boasted a number of stunning destinations.

Italy, Malta and Greece were some of her favourites which she explored with many of her friends in the media industry.

She also traveled further afield to New Zealand and Iceland, along with work trips to Afghanistan and Rwanda.

After meeting Harry, she joined him to Botswana for her 36th birthday, to Jamaica for a friends wedding and to Norway for New Year.ed further afield to New Zealand and Iceland, along with work trips to Afghanistan and Rwanda.


.....This planted article seems to confuse two-day work trips, and travel with friends for drinking, sunning, yachting and merching, with actually adapting well into other countries and understanding other cultures in some true manner.

Pantsface said…
@Jessica = me neither - I don't get it, a few years of towing the RF line and she could have quite literally have had it all, by all accounts, they wanted her to succeed, she really is her own worst enemy
AnT said…
@jessica,

A brilliant, educated, cultured and also very stylish woman I worked for when I was beginning my career was a self-made success in a very competitive niche of the creative/PR field. She was older, and made her way when the field was filled with men, and earned everyone's respect. She looked like Grace Kelly, worked incredibly hard, had a great sense of humor, but was invariably polite, calm, organized and resourceful.

Your comment just reminded me of an observation she once made about an actress we were dealing with, explaining something to a coworker and I about an issue we were dealing with:

"She has everything now, yes, but she grew up loving dimes. All she really understands is hunting dimes."
Hikari said…
AnT,

Re this comment you found re. LL:


she doesn’t really have the contacts she claims to have to provide sources. Third and fourth sources does not a true story make. She’s actually known in the industry for swiping what she can and turning it into her own and just recently got caught double selling a story. Although she won’t show it on camera, the girl is nervous underneath…about being found out. She knows her time is pretty much up and here’s another tidbit…the girl can’t even get the proper accreditation for Cannes. Has anyone noticed they stopped sending her and in fact even brought her back early the last time for not bringing the goods. She’s what we would call a “fangirl”, always on the sidelines, never invited to the actual parties. No wonder she drinks. But somehow the producers of The Social believed her, then again…what’s that ripoff show supposed to be about? I could go into a frickin’ Earl’s Restaurant if I wanted to hear that kind of chatter. Low on substance. And if you don’t think she reads these comments on the forums about her, think again. She’s that scared of her future so she’s trying to swing it to work it longer but “I’m told” things aren’t what they used to be. tick tock

My god, it's like LL and MM could be the same person! Alliterative initials and all.

When you are young and cute, you can get away with being an airhead. But teenage airheads better grow up or else die young because nothing looks more pathetic than women pushing 40, 50 years old, still desperate to be considered peers and BFFs with 20 year olds. I predict that both of these celebrity vultures are going to end their days like the Duchess of Windsor, another past-it party girl who used up men and who never had children because she was too busy sucking up the glitterati, did. Wallis was a forgotten, deranged, skeletal recluse in her end days. That glory wasn't just faded; it was obliterated.

Such an end couldn't happen to two more deserving witches.

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AnT said…
@Hikari,

Well said. Your comment makes me think of the uncomfortable aging party girl aspects and the cringe-inducing desperation of those "real housewives" tv reality stars of BHills and NY. I think I have seen maybe 20 minutes of each, encouraged to watch years ago by a friend who thought one of them was somehow fabulous. She was enamored of their "success" and party lifestyle. I was put off by women in their 50s acting like greedy throughtless teens. And the terrible glopped-on "style"!!

I don't know if they are airheads or not, didn't watch enough. But maybe I would say that I saw them as canny rodents, able to sniff the ground laboriously for bits of edible treasure til they die off.

Will MM (and yes -- pretty strange that she's alliterate like LL unless that was part of the template that Girl with A Hat mentioned above) end up like the Wallis Simpson? I don't know. Wallis's life and denouement seem pretty awful and sad to me. But, like the husk of a dead shiny insect, she was able cling to some fantasy of style that certain fashion world people craved and admired.

Harry's Wife has nothing in terms of style, talent, charm or ability to trade on.

She'll evaporate like any other older semi-royal, or sink like the Z-lister she is, or more likely. do one or two more obvious heinous things in her wild desperation that will chalk her right off the map. I sense in my bones that something is going to unravel there soon.
AnT said…
@CookieShark,

What you said about cardiology patients breaks my heart all over again for Philip.

Everyone (who is sane) knows you must treat heart patients with love and care, not attacks and emotional blackmail. But Harry and his wife had other plans for Philip. Perhaps (this is absolutely conjecture on my part) Harry's wife thought there was $$ to be had either way: blackmail into silence money, or, do him in.

The @barkjack twitter piece on her merching makes total sense. It's not that well-known, her teen sugars aren't shopping it much, and the cuts from retail third or fourth partied like that with middleman expenses are going to be minimal (paying those who run and host the site must be done). Like other celebs, she was trying to become known for something, so I won't fault that, but.....Amazon-level cheap style? Please.

Jessica Alba and Gwyneth Paltrow have worked hard to establish their brands (love them or hate them). They had goals and connections and used what they had while they were still known for their talents. Harry's wife has no ability, no taste, no concentration skills, no goals, no passions. She is an empty box that just flits around like a deranged bat from one thing to the next, paying others to try to do her Tig blog and merching. Plus she is stuck in the 90s, with a dead personality. Plus all the oversaturation of bad boring press and games is leading to the end of her tiny window of opportunity. She may stay married to Harry forever, but they are tainted, at least in LA and NYC.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9507845/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-met-streaming-firm-Quibi-Kensington-Palace-YEAR-Megxit.html

"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle met US streaming firm Quibi at Kensington Palace a YEAR before Megxit — but rejected bizarre show on 'princesses and puppies'

A US media firm suggested the Duchess of Sussex front a show called Princesses And Puppies during a meeting at Kensington Palace – almost a year before she and Prince Harry unveiled their Megxit plans, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

The couple met executives from streaming service Quibi on January 30, 2019. Yet during an interview with Oprah Winfrey earlier this year, Prince Harry said the couple ‘didn’t have a plan’ after they quit as working Royals in January 2020 and signed lucrative deals with Netflix and Spotify only after the family ‘cut me off financially’.

According to a source, the couple had previously discussed various projects with executives at the now-defunct Quibi.
One idea suggested by the firm’s founder, Jeffrey Katzenberg, was for the Duchess to host an online show that combined Royalty and pets.
‘Meghan seemed to find that idea offensive and though she was gracious in the moment, people in the room were a bit appalled that this was the pitch to her,’ said the source.

‘Jeffrey thought that puppies and princesses both sold well so if you put them together you’d have something incredibly commercial.’ ....
‘There was discussion about a sustainable travel programme and another show about Harry’s charity interests in Africa. There was talk about Meghan narrating a nature documentary. Quibi held several discussions with them.’

The Duke reportedly had one further in-person meeting with Quibi executives in London in January 2020 – the month that the couple stepped back from Royal duties – but the talks petered out."...
more at the link.
JennS said…
@AnT

Have you seen this Twitter thread? It includes comparisons of Archie photos and possible substitutes....there are numerous sets of photos if you scroll down or open new threads.
The resemblance is uncanny! Do we know if MM and this woman Bryn are friends? Could MM be photoshopping B's child into her photos to pass off as Archie? What do you think?🤔
https://mobile.twitter.com/kennn21710790/with_replies
I have to laugh-that that was all Katzenberg thought of her. Pretty low.
jessica said…
AnT,

The dime comment is perfection. She’s right. Some people can’t change their spots no matter how hard they try. So much for *whip smart*. I suppose in relation to money it comes from being ungrateful. Gratefulness comes with perspective.

As for Doria, it would make a lot of sense if she worked for an Airline. This would explain Meghan’s travel - free.

This all reminds me of Bezos. He claims he married his first wife because she was resourceful. That’s Meg. She was resourceful and got to
The next level. Here she is still behaving as a resource gatherer.

Perhaps this is a lesson in neglecting real work? Gwynn and Jessica Alba, they each have Oscars and known businesses. They work with teams. Meghan isn’t near their stratosphere, and I think that’s because she focuses on the fluff (being papped) and not the substance.
JennS said…
One idea suggested by the firm’s founder, Jeffrey Katzenberg, was for the Duchess to host an online show that combined Royalty and pets.

‘Meghan seemed to find that idea OFFENSIVE and though she was gracious in the moment, people in the room were a bit appalled that this was the pitch to her,’ said the source.


ROTFLOL!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,

That Quibi story is an incredible find! Can you even imagine the chairs and crockery thrown around Nottingham Cottage after that meeting? Interesting too that even at the supposed height of her royal "youth" and "charm" and fresh off her "big starring role on Suits", that's all Katzenberg and his team could imagine for her.

Considering the links between Katzenberg, Dreamworks, and former Dreamworks exec Steve Mnunchin (a much rumored regular LA client of Harry's wife back in the day of escorts and cash), perhaps only MM's famous downward dog move came to mind?

Seriously though, to think of this callous, dead-souled woman with the trail of murdered, abandoned and injured pets behind her, presenting such a program is horrible.
AnT said…
This cringe slovenly "royal" with her bad pancake makeup and eye-glue, in her bulging, tight off-season clothing, bending over terrified puppies, her eyes darting around as she tries to make animal small-talk,
her ten-pound donation to Mayhew in the press.....wow.

So much for her Jane Goodall moment.
AnT said…
@JennS ,

I hadn't seen that site of image compassions, no --- fascinating! I'll look at it and circle back. Great find!
@AnT, it's hilarious for so many reasons. Lots of clues given about what the top-level execs like Katzenberg really think of her(yes, gotta wonder about talk re Mnuchin and others), how high she really thinks of herself esp as an actress, the coded dig about her and her questionable history with dogs. It's fantastic. She must have gone ballistic.

She would've made a great rep for Tupperware-"It doesn't break when you throw it!"
(I grew up eating from the old tupperware bowls, drinking cups, etc.)
JennS said…
@AnT and CG33

What's especially funny is that Camilla Tominey already broke the Quibi story last month BUT we did NOT know that MM was only offered pooper-scooper duty as her big break!!
I'm sure she was highly offended by that animal show suggestion no matter how much of an animal lover she tries to portray herself as. And I'm also sure she will not be happy that this nugget of info has gotten out! I love it!
What I don't understand is why Katzenberg and Meg Whitman of eBay fame were so excited to get the Harkles signed on??? Only to turn around and offer a doggie show? I wonder what they offered Hazza? Maybe a circus clown show?
Hikari said…
@ All Nutties-

I hope you don’t mind a brief diversion, but I wanted to share and incredible new website I found.
We are a pretty international community here, and I know that many of us are curious about places other Nutties live. In this time of pandemic lockdown and restrictions, I suppose most of us are feeling pretty penned in, especially if we are used to traveling for work or doing a lot of social activities that are in available right now.

Heygo Is a virtual tour company featuring local guides in cities around the world showing off their favorite places. These are live streamed so the tour guests are literally on the ground walking with the guides as though we were there for one of their in person tours. Each tour is approximately 45 minutes to an hour, in English. It’s free to sign up for an account and there is no charge for these tours. The site is tip supported, and tips are appreciated but optional. The split is 60/40 In favor of the guide, with the rest going to website maintenance. You can book as many tours as you want. Today, I traveled to Montmartre and Chelsea through the magic of live stream for $20. Tomorrow, I have got myself booked to Oxford, and Sorrento, Italy. For the first time in ages, I am actually excited about a Sunday home alone.

One of my tour guides mentioned he had only been doing this for about six weeks, so I think the company is quite new. I would have appreciated knowing about it sooner, but I’m glad to have found it now, and it seems to be early days. The tourism industry is finding creative ways to stay alive. They are actually hiring now, so if any of you live in an area of tourist interest, enjoy talking to people and Have a selfie stick and an idea to pitch for a tour, you could become a guide.

My second tour of the day took me down the Kings Road in Chelsea, the epicenter for the music and fashion explosion of the 1960s and 1970s. BRF tie in—The tourist started in Sloane Square, Native habitat of the Sloane Ranger. Diana’s old flat at Earls Court is nearby. The red double Dekker buses were running, and Londoners were pretty well packing the sidewalk dining areas, even though according to our tour guide Paul, who was wearing a winter jacket, it was cold.


https://www.heygo.com/
Animal Lover said…
@Kate K,

Welcome, I hope you continue reading this and post some more. Like you and several other Nutties, I had a favorable opinion of MM, mainly because I never heard of her and thought she was a private person. My opinion of her changed after her wedding and her relentless PR drove me to this blog when it first started. I wanted to know what was the deal with this publicity crazy person. While I don't hate her I find her annoying and agree with many others she is a social climbing narcissist.

Isn't it interesting none of the British papers including the tabloids showed the picture of Archie? Was that because they are doing a blackout and not playing MM's game or are afraid of a lawsuit?

Getting back to blogger Kate K's concerns, who knows how deep MM's interest in racial /social issues is. Maybe suspect it's just a means to an end, in that it provides her with favorable attention if she opines on these issues.

I think she's an ambitious but superficial woman who views the world with cursory interest unless it relates to her specifically or is to her benefit.

It will be very interesting if the results of the investigation into the allegations of MM's bullying is released or leaked to the press.
Pantsface said…
@WWBM -I love Calvin Robinson, he seems to be the voice of reason, despite his heritage sees things are they really are in the UK at least, breath of fresh air
Animal Lover said…
Lainey use to be a fun gossip site to read but changed around 2017-2018 and started getting preachy, so I stopped reading her. I read gossip to be entertained and don't want too much politics interjected from the left or the right.
HappyDays said…
AnT said…
@CookieShark,

What you said about cardiology patients breaks my heart all over again for Philip.

Everyone (who is sane) knows you must treat heart patients with love and care, not attacks and emotional blackmail. But Harry and his wife had other plans for Philip. Perhaps (this is absolutely conjecture on my part) Harry's wife thought there was $$ to be had either way: blackmail into silence money, or, do him in.

@AnT and CookieShark:

Her father is a heart patient too, and we already know how she’s treated him so far.
JHanoi said…
Hahaha .......Puppies and Princesses

Starring JH as the poor whipped puppy and his wife as the Princesses......
AnT said…
@HappyDays,

Ugh, good point about her father.

Sociopathy in a wig.
Kate Kosior said…
Appropos of nothing, I'm putting my best guess for a baby name out there as Frances... It was Diana's middle name, and goes fairly well with Archie, and will probably play well in the UK, where there are more traditional names than McKinzleigh and all the other nonsense we have going on in the US with baby naming. But if I"m honest, I love Wokeisha Diana Avocado and I'm secretly pulling for that one!
Hikari said…
Has Markle finally Markled herself?

From the pinnacle back to the gutter hustling for a change in less than three years. That takes a special kind of anti-talent.

I have only seen the recent fake Archie photos in one place. Hollywood Life described the merching items in detail along with MSRP but did not run the picture. Has she pulled another of her picture kill stunts, or are all the media resolutely refusing to run this picture, even the fashion magazines?

With all due respect to the Nutties who believe that Markle had H’s baby—That may be, if Archie is a four year old girl.

What will June and the debut of Angel Diaria Avocado Wokeness bring? I look forward to Harry’s wife’s efforts to convince us she has had another magical infant.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Thanks @ Blogger AnT for link :)

AnT said…
@Hikari,

Thank you so much for mentioning the virtual travel site you found — heygo! I am definitely going to try it. What a lovely idea.

I miss traveling so much and seeing friends in distant places (that have never seemed so distant as they are now).....I was actually watching a basic Munich live webcam last week one morning, the Marienplatz one from Ludwig Beck, just missing everyone and everything so much.

I look forward to selecting a tour for tomorrow!
Ziggy said…
@ AnT and Girl with a Hat... I'm loving the Lainey chatter and the strong comparisons with Harry's wife- I've noticed those too.

I can also confirm that Lainey was in a relationship when she first met her now husband Jacek, and cheated on that man with Jacek. Just like Harry's wife cheated on Corey with Harry.

So many similarities!!!

(Lainey admitted that on her blog at some point. As I've said, I used to read it daily! Don't judge me, lol ;)
And thank you GWAH for your support about my comment on the previous page- sorry bout' that; I had too much wine and apparently felt the need to vent! lol)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said...
Has Markle finally Markled herself?

From the pinnacle back to the gutter hustling for a change in less than three years. That takes a special kind of anti-talent.

I have only seen the recent fake Archie photos in one place. Hollywood Life described the merching items in detail along with MSRP but did not run the picture. Has she pulled another of her picture kill stunts, or are all the media resolutely refusing to run this picture, even the fashion magazines?

_____

Makes me wonder exactly how much, or how little, the Merching One actually earns.

Mind you, I'm no slave to fashion. More so, a slave to comfort. In this day and age of Covid, we don't have the disposable income, nor the wish, to copy someone else. Especially her.

(Musing in my own head ...) ... Once upon a time, she may have had some modest success with her blog, or her televised appearances. Royalty may have seemed a quantum leap.

Not now.
AnT said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura,

Aye, aye, Lt.! (In my best Scotty voice). ;-)
JennS said…
Kate Kosior said...
But if I"m honest, I love Wokeisha Diana Avocado and I'm secretly pulling for that one!
...................

Ahhhh! That was my creation but it was originally laid out like this:

Wokeisha Diana Cancelenia AvocaDoria Markle-Windsor

The tabs seem to think she will name it after Her Maj or PP.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@Lt. Nyota Uhura,

Aye, aye, Lt.! (In my best Scotty voice). ;-)

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Good thing you're not Lt. Sulu, Lol (reference to the Mirror, Mirror episode of orginal Star Trek) (where Uhura slapped Sulu across the face)

Thanks :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JennS said...
Kate Kosior said...
But if I"m honest, I love Wokeisha Diana Avocado and I'm secretly pulling for that one!
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Ahhhh! That was my creation but it was originally laid out like this:

Wokeisha Diana Cancelenia AvocaDoria Markle-Windsor

The tabs seem to think she will name it after Her Maj or PP.

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Y'all are all missing the boat. Somehow, a Beatle name like Harrison has to enter in. Maybe McCartney ;) Me, I like either "Ringo" or "Starr."
HappyDays said…
Jessica said...If she only stuck around for 5 years in the BRF, she’d have goodwill and amazing contracts. She wouldn’t need to merch. It’s too low level.

I just don’t get it.

@Jessica: A likely reason is that as a mid-range narcissist, Meghan only reacts to ‘now.’ Yes, she has long-range planning, her two most notable being the stalking of Harry from the point of her divorce being finalized in February 2014 to when she had him officially bagged and tagged in May 2018 wedding.

The second long range plan was her plan that eventually became known as Megxit. She likely started that plan to snatch and grab a royal husband, a royal title and anchor Harry with a quick baby well before the marriage, possibly after she banged Harry’s brains out for a week on their third “date” in Botswana.

But as a midrange narcissist, she continually shoots herself in the foot by allowing things she thinks must be addressed ‘now,’ which are actually based on pettiness, to hurt her long-range goals.

The Oprah interview was shooting herself in the foot. She let the pettiness of casting herself as a victim of the royal family and UK media and broadcasting it to the entire world by bomb-dropping in that interview get in the way of advancing herself as a celebrity. It hurt her and Harry far more than it helped. People in Hollywood and companies that might have thought about working with her, might have second thoughts if they think she will toss bombs at them later. She and Harry are now untrustworthy in the eyes of many people.

She didn’t just shoot herself in the foot by talking to Oprah. She shot her foot clean off.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger HappyDays said...

But as a midrange narcissist, she continually shoots herself in the foot by allowing things she thinks must be addressed ‘now,’ which are actually based on pettiness, to hurt her long-range goals.

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You have nailed this one.

I have read where staff complained of plans conceived at a moment's notice, expected to be executed at same. It seems neither H nor his wife cared about any ancillary concerns.
JennS said…
Happy Days said...
She didn’t just shoot herself in the foot by talking to Oprah. She shot her foot clean off.
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Oh my, at least it was a nice BIG easy-to-hit target!

_______________________________

@Lt Uhura

I like Ringo and Starr too!

Some others:

Liberalabeth
Cannabisha
Elsbeth1847 said…
Wow, just wow.

AnT
I think about your comment of "the dimes" and how it may have blinded her to the options of greater options (Quarters even). I am reminded of the phrase: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (or a dime not a quarter or $100 bill).

If perhaps) she felt always a little out of not fitting in (in terms of the expensive private schools all through her education but perhaps limited options to take advantage of everything they offered) then she might have had years (decades even) of practice for feeling not being accepted for who she was, maybe feeling as scrounging for money (somehow lesser and more like a scholarship student or work stipend than an endless just write the check for me student) and now certainly not interested in accepting the offers of help from the one group who wanted her to feel accepted, wanted and to be a part of their future (the BRF and anyone they pitched as "helpful to adjust).

My point is that people stick to the behavior patterns they feel comfortable with (even if they, on some level, know don't work [now at this point in my life or maybe based on the past] ... comfort often trumps scary future ie different outcome).

Or you see people taking control (like bossing around others at a birthday party before others have a chance to respond/react). A good defense/offense can be helpful to gain control when you, yourself (might) feel not in control (since you control others).

Or maybe any and all?

Quibi: perhaps this is why we saw the comments about only willing to consider A level roles. After the feeling of this has insulted me?, the response may have been to send a message of don't bother me/us with puppies and other less than stellar options (been there/done that and will not do that again so do not insult me?).

Elsbeth1847 said…
I am reminded of the phrase: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (or a dime not a quarter or $100 bill).

forgot the not (sorry)

I am reminded of the phrase: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (or NOT a dime not a quarter or $100 bill).
AnT said…
Oh. My. God.

Now we know for sure why Harry went to the funeral.Hint: it wasn’t grief or love.

A Boston frIend just texted: Page Six! So I looked and .....

...Finding Freedom is being reissued in early August, with All New chapters on the Oprah interview and the death of Prince Philip.

Plus chapters on the bullying allegations and their Netflix and Spotify deals.

So, before you all start to scream and/or run to throw up, think about this: FF is marked down to the bargain bin tables in the US.

Who is paying for this reprinting w new chapters?

And you know it will revolve around the magical birth of baby Diana on July 1.


AnT said…
Sorry--the link about the new edition of Finding Freedom:

https://pagesix.com/2021/04/24/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-biography-getting-new-chapters/


They just can’t stop going lower and lower, can they?

Maybe she thinks she will be able to hit the talk shows this time.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Elsbeth1847 said...

.... My point is that people stick to the behavior patterns they feel comfortable with (even if they, on some level, know don't work [now at this point in my life or maybe based on the past] ... comfort often trumps scary future ie different outcome).

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I read, and re-read, your post very carefully. You made very good points.

We all tend to comfort over risk.

I do have to take issue over the fact that we all must make our own decisions, in the end. And we must deal with the consequences. There is no avoiding that.

In the case of someone who has been known to jettison people, situations, lives in the quest of who knows what ambition, well, at some point the rubber meets the road.

@AnT, if everything was going so rosy as she'd have us believe, with regards to the Spotify and Netflix deals and all of those millions of dollars, there'd be no need to do this. The last gasps of a desperate, dying...something. That pig Markle's been busy typing away. And now that the lawsuit was found in her favour, she can go crazy writing unfettered. No need to keep up a facade now.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
Oh. My. God.

Now we know for sure why Harry went to the funeral.Hint: it wasn’t grief or love.

A Boston frIend just texted: Page Six! So I looked and .....

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$$$$$

Me, I'll wait for the DM excerpts :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Page Six must be loving this whole thing Lol
Midge said…
@AntT
Just saw that announcement too- it's coming out August 5th for those of you who want to rush out and reserve a copy!
I gather they talk about the "queen's choice" in taking away their royal patronages and Harry's military titles which sounds like an attack on the queen.
AnT said…
@Elsbeth 1847,

All excellent points. You may be right. And now she’s circled back to living in her familiar scrounging rut, no matter what, because it is her learned behavior chasing those grubby dimes. And being a slob. And breezily lying about everything from calligraphy to French to being a star, instead of working on mastering anything.

Yet she has also gone to great lengths to mimic others, from Lui to Messica to Diana and Catherine. And hire a huge staff.

So she is some weird self-sabotaging scrounger who brought a Prince to her junkyard. She has aspirations, then she blows them up. Ever hear the saying, She jumped over five dollars to pick up a nickel? That’s her too, I suppose.

So now she will work with Omid and attack the BRF even more with hateful, crass lies and “reveals” in FF reissue.

Burning the castle for a dollar once again.
JennS said…
@AnT - Here is the origin of that Finding Freebies news from the Times:

No holiday from royal feud as Sussex ‘hagiography’ gets a summer update
A new edition of Finding Freedom, which chronicles Harry and Meghan’s new life, may reopen royal rifts


Roya Nikkhah, Royal Editor
Sunday April 25 2021, 12.01am BST, The Sunday Times

After the death of her beloved husband and a tumultuous year for her family, the Queen, who turned 95 last week, might reasonably hope for a quieter few months ahead.

Any such hopes look set to be dashed when a new version of a book about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex is published this summer, raking through royal rifts that continue to rock the monarchy.

Finding Freedom, a flattering biography of Harry and Meghan, giving their account of their departure from royal life via friends and Sussex sources, is being updated with new chapters. They will cover their interview with Oprah Winfrey, allegations against Meghan over the bullying of royal staff, which she denies, and Prince Philip’s death.

The updated edition is also expected to take in their new life in America, their multimillion-pound deals with Netflix and Spotify and the Queen’s decision to strip them of all royal patronages earlier this year. Harry is understood to remain devastated by the loss of his military roles.


The book will be reissued on August 5 and is likely to exacerbate tensions between the Sussexes and the rest of the royal family, particularly between Harry and William. A senior courtier said: “The Oprah interview detonated a bomb under the royal family and most of them are still reeling in shock. The book will not help.” Another senior royal source said: “After Oprah, what else is there to say?”

Despite Harry’s brief reunion with the royal family last weekend for Prince Philip’s funeral, relations remain at a low ebb. William and Harry did not walk next to each other in the procession, though the brothers were seen talking as they walked back to Windsor Castle after the service. Senior royal sources have dismissed suggestions of a separate meeting between Harry, William and Charles, who retreated to Wales after the funeral without seeing his son again. Harry returned to America last Tuesday, before the Queen’s birthday on Wednesday.

Published last summer, Finding Freedom covered the period from 2016, when the couple met, to their departure from royal life and move to America last year. Described by some critics as a “hagiography”, it recounted how Harry was “pissed off” with his brother, who he felt behaved like “a snob” when he advised Harry to “take as much time as you need to get to know” Meghan. In the book she was said to be “disappointed” that the Duchess of Cambridge wasn’t “welcoming enough”, while Harry believed the Prince of Wales valued his image over his relationship with his son.

The authors, Carolyn Durand and Omid Scobie, said they had “unique access” to those closest to the couple. The Sussexes have denied collaborating with the book.

The Queen may take some comfort from the fact that, when the book comes out, she will be with her closest family in the private sanctuary of Balmoral, her Scottish estate, where she is said to be at her happiest.
JennS said…
I don't think Page 6 got this directly from the Harkles this time. It looks like Roya Nikkhah from the Times broke the news. Page 6 is quoting the Times.
Roya is sometimes sugary with the Sussexes but she doesn't seem happy with them in this article...see my post above.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33
@Lt. Nyota Uhura

Yup. Things can’t be that rosy or they — oh wait, remember they plan to take months off now and not produce anything for awhile in accordance with their new work ethic, per Omid a couple of days ago?

This is what they are taking time off to do — scribble the book that Omid will pretend he wrote. A book she can use to start promoting Baby Diana, and her own political ambitions.

I hope that limp little fangirl Justice Warby finally feels deep humiliation that he took the side of the poor little privacy princess.

I hope WIlliam calls Charles and says, I told you so.
Hikari said…
@Jenn

For all the snarky fun we’ve been having naming Markle’s newest Moonbump Variations on Diana plus woke plus avocado, I’ve just had a terrible thought: she will have sourced a girl infant from somewhere… Surrogate, black market adoption—Some desperate pregnant teenage girl in LA would be willing to sell her baby...Who knows, but there will be presentation photos somewhere somehow, and her payback for continuing to be gray rocked by the royal family?

She will call this child Philippa Elizabeth Diana. To twist the knife into HM’s heart, and copy/taunt the Middleton girls.

This child will be eighth in the line of succession, Following the precedent that HM herself set by acknowledging Archie.

Watch and see if she doesn’t. She is that vindictive. It’s not just about a lavish allowance anymore and being featured on the balcony; she’s determined to make everyone suffer even from 5000 miles away. Something, as they say, will have to be done.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Yes, seeing this, I am sure you are right, and this Roya piece is the source of the Page Six report. Thank you so much for pasting the whole original article here. I agree: Roya sounds like she has realized she’s been kind about loathsome creeps.

So, think about this: I cannot imagine Harry showing up to the Diana statue unveiling and looking at his brother, when they both know his vile wife is putting the final spit polish on this book. I mean, of course his wife will make Harry go, and he will fly over, but I hope WIlliam says enough and doesn’t allow him anywhere near the unveiling. William can have him hauled into Customs and searched instead.

Anyone left who still doesn’t think Harry is as bad as his wife? Anyone?

And this may be why her eyes were smirking above her mask in that Archie goes to school photo, in which the woman who was devastated by miscarriage carries a four year kid on her 10-month bump. She knew she is forging another sword to jam into the Queen’s heart.
@AnT, between this(and H's weird actions at the funeral), the pap shot the other day, and the leak about H meeting with Wallis, it makes me think they're seriously broke and scratching for pennies. If you have enough money, and things are good and headed in the right direction, you don't need to do low class gutter stuff like this. I wonder if Spotify and Netflix have quietly dropped their asses and with no payments.

I imagine she's been writing as things happen, so it's all ready to go.

Agree with you about Warby. I hope he feels like an idiot. He is one. And about William telling Charles "I told you so". I have no confidence in Charles, but plenty in William.

There was a new CDAN blind today as well: "The alliterate one has been told if she wants any shot at that dream appointment, she needs to vocally support the state leader and also vocalize that a recall is wrong."

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/04/blind-item-4_24.html
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
For the 12 or 20 people who actually believe the S's, this will be happy news.

Won't translate into any $$$.

Won't generate any new "buzz."

(But they wish😈) (Sorry, Charlie, no tuna)

Friends, we are witnessing the end of the beginning, to borrow from Britain's Sir William Churchill. :)
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1427562/Royal-news-the-crown-prince-philip-netflix-royal-family

Royal Fury: Axe The Crown for ‘disgraceful’ Philip portrayal - Netflix ‘damaging family'
FURIOUS MPs, former Cabinet members and leading Royal experts are urging Netflix to scrap the next series of The Crown, or rewrite the character of Prince Philip, whose portrayal up until now they describe as "inaccurate" and "disgraceful".
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
"Royal Fury" my left ..... cheek. As if they could do anything about it. People know it's a bunch of bull, and have known since the thing aired.

Anything for clicks!

JennS said…
@Hikari and Ant
Scary is the thought of a Philippa Elizabeth Diana. Yes, I agree there just may be a real baby this time sourced from who knows where.
I just left a post on the Times site below the article about how the family really needs to do something instead of just gray rocking - which I've been saying over there as well as here for some time. The idea of doing something about the Harkles has been met w/ resistance by some of the Times readers who thought it below the dignity of the RF - until more recently. Now they are suggesting the firm get their lawyers and the government involved. I feel heartened by that but it remains an issue about who will get the ball rolling. I think William may have to push his elders into taking care of the situation. At the very least I'm thinking removing them from the line of succession should come first...whether the children are real and of the body or not!
If I were William I would want to defang the Harkles not just for the sake of the monarchy but even more so for the health and emotional wellbeing of his father and grandmother.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@ConstantGardener33

” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9507845/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-met-streaming-firm-Quibi-Kensington-Palace-YEAR-Megxit.html”

I’m curious about this. I don’t know much about what goes on behind the smoke and mirrors in Hollywood. Why all the sudden this leak right now? It seems like very few people would know about these meetings as they were in the early stages. According to the article, the three principals wouldn’t/didn’t comment.

“Princesses and Puppies” doesn’t sound very flattering. It’s almost if someone is trying to embarrass her. More of the Kraken maybe?
Natalier said…
@ShadeeRrrowz

We had known about the Quibi more than a month back. Can't rmber which paper published it. The part about Princess and Puppies is new though.

I wonder if Prince Harry was insulted that he was already seen as the puppy/dog to the new princess. Or was he too dim to notice?
Hikari said…
As a fan of The Crown, Principally the first two seasons—The upset over the subsequent two seasons, particularly the 4th, is understandable—I find the portrayal of Philip To be suitably multi layered for a man who may have. Extremely simple on the surface, but was in fact remarkably complex. Two of the very strongest episodes of the first two seasons are both Philip-centric. “In the Company of Men” documents what he was doing for 5 months in 1956 when his wife sent him on a Commonwealth tour solo to open the Olympic Games in Sydney, and “Paterfamilias” in S2 Focuses on his disenfranchised youth, his Complicated relationship with his relatives, the tragedy of the plane crash that killed his sisters family and newborn infant, his seminal time at Gordonstoun and his fraught relationship with his eldest son.

Series Philip is portrayed as very probably a womanizer in his earlier years, chafing in his role and possibly involved in the group central to the Profumo scandal. In S3 he is depicted as having a midlife crisis and ashamed of his mother, who had come to live at BP in her final years. He is often impatient, sometimes snappy. Fond of fast cars, pretty girls and flying machines. One time member of an infamous lunch club, and acquainted with various beauties in the performing arts. I think all of these aspects of Philip were at one time or another, probably true. But what shines through in the portrayal I said by what will ultimately be three different actors is Phillips steadfast presence at the Queen’s side, even when things were rocky. Over a marriage of 73 years, how could there not have been rocks and shoals? What matters is that he stayed the course to the very end. If anything, I think show runner Peter Morgan who has Written or cowritten every episode is a Philip fanboy. He shows Philip with human foibles, not a plaster saint. Plaster saints are so boring as subjects for drama.
@ShadeeRrrowz, I hope it's a steady drip drip from ...someone. You know the old saying about strange bedfellows. It is enough to slowly undermine any foundation or credibility of theirs(H&M), and possibly blunt the efforts of supposed backers. Better this way then everything coming out all at once, then it's easier to take seriously.
Hikari said…
@Jenn

Or apropos of “Archie”, which is not a diminutive of a grander moniker, she could call a girl baby “Charlie”...Which is normally a cute nickname for “Charlotte”, so what better way to needle Charles and Cambridges in one swoop?

I feel pretty certain they will do something awful with this name.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Natalier

“We had known about the Quibi more than a month back. Can't rmber which paper published it. The part about Princess and Puppies is new though.”

Sorry I should have been more specific.

I remember seeing the article (in DM maybe?) about a month ago. I meant it seems like someone is trying to embarrass her by leaking the title.
AnT said…
@JennS,
They really must get Harry out of the line of succession, sooner the better. He isn’t mentally stable, he is treasonous, and once he is off the list, the wife will leave him as fast as her twigs can carry her on those giant hooves.

@Hikari,
I read your name idea and oh goodness..,,I think you may be quite right.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

you forgot to mention how the series The Crown makes Philip responsible for his sister's death in the plane crash which isn't even based in fact.

Lady Colin Campbell has a much different take from yours on the way Philip was portrayed and she thinks that it was a hatchet job. In fact, she uses the death of his sister and his role in it as an example of how poor Philip was maligned by Mr. Morgan.

I am beginning to think that you and I disagree on a lot of things.
jessica said…
Finding Freedom 2.0 ?!

You’ve got to be kidding me. This woman is so fucking desperate to rewrite every story and have _the _last_word. Is this really how she plans to monetize her Royal status? Is she planning for this to become Archewell: The Movie?!

Facepalm. Make it end. Give it up Megs. No one cares but us here because we are in amazement at how utterly bonkers you are.

JennS said…
@Nutties
I've got my 'file cabinet' blog open despite the fact it's still a mess but I wanted to share some articles...

You can get to it by clicking on my avatar or use the address: https://acacheofclues.blogspot.com/

Organizing it wasn't easy since Google Blogger is so primitive but I've used both "Posts" and "Pages" as files for info.
There is a drop-down menu on the right-hand side with titles.

It's all far from finished and some files are empty and some have not even been started.

I've only included info that has been published in the public domain...in newspapers/mags etc.

There are files for specific topics, news articles and for tea. The tea is from articles as well...

I also have the transcript of the entire interview posted.

Plus a linked list of all the blind gossip articles on the Harkles and I'm working on a list of video clips.

For those who are asking questions about the Quibi deal - I have the original Telegraph article posted there.
Also @AnT and KCM1212 I believe you had wanted to see the nasty Sussex article Tom Bradby wrote for the Times last year...

There are some photos that I won't be able to keep up for long - they are of Harry with Chelsy and are in the Miscellaneous file. Just wanted to show how different he seemed to be with her than he is with MM.
🤣
jessica said…
Finding Freedom: Free at last

Finding Freedom: monetize the monarchy

Finding Freedom: enslave oneself to praise oneself

Finding Freedom: what is lost, can be found

Finding Freedom: out from the grift

Finding Freedom: Via our Grandmothers Grandchildren

Finding Freedom: what doesn’t kill us makes us richer

I’ll be here all day
hunter said…
Hey cool JennS thanks!
hunter said…
My goodness you have quite the resource trove! You should drop a line to Harry Markle and let her know, maybe she'd find it useful too.
JennS said…
@Hikari
Oh gosh Charlotte / Charlie sounds right up her vindictive alley.
@AnT
Twigs on Giant Hooves - LOL!!!!!!!

Please look at the pics of H with Chelsy on my blog.

I know Harry ended up being a huge disappointment but I blame MM far more for all of this. I'm too tired to type my theory about it right now but I've been thinking about how so very detached he has been.
jessica said…
Philippa Charlene Doriana Mary-Elizabeth Cam Windsor...we also need to expect that she will throw in a nod to Camilla for
The $$$ so let’s add in Camilla- Baby Cam.
jessica said…
Oh and she’ll definitely give a nod to herself like she did with Harrison on Vinyl baby. So we can also toss Rachella in there or Megatha (sorry Magatha)
JennS said…
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AnT said…
@jessica

😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
AnT said…
@JennS,

So excited — just made a first quick visit to your blog! Excellent trove of information!

1) these photos of Harry and Chelsy make it even clearer how warped his union with his wife is
2).the Bradby piece shows me Bradby is an idiotic lightweight— young couple? And he was not really getting the inappropriate nature of their whining in Africa
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: Thank you for the link to the city guides! Looking forward to using the site.

There are so many good names suggested for the baby. Hikari came really close with Charlie as an anagram.
It'd be fun if for every guess we could put $5 USD in a pot, and two winners, one for the first name, and a winner for the
middle name.
Fifi LaRue said…
Charlie Harriet

or

Charlie Henrietta
Hikari said…
@Girl

I’ve been enjoying our disagreements for some time now.

I know Lady C has her fans here; I know she occasionally spells good tea, but in all honesty I find her virtually unlistenable a lot of the time due to her very slow and effective way of talking. She’s got some good contacts and good information I suppose, but we must remember that she and Peter Morgan are both in the same business of entertainment. Actually, I might better say that she and Lainey Lui are in the same business of peddling gossip for personal gain. Lainey could be construed as the street walker level of the business, while Lady C is the venerable courtesan tier. But they are both peddling the same product. I think Peter Morgan would agree that he is doing a high-gloss entertainment, and not a documentary series. But we’re both Lainey and Lady C diverge is that they claim to be giving us ‘truth’, don’t they? If I audiences swallow every detail of the Crown as fact, Morgan never claimed to be writing historical dispatches. But the other to invite us to believe that they have hotlines to “what actually happened”. In everything media-based, caveat emptor.

Morgan doesn’t make P responsible for his sister’s death. He creates a scene in which P’s grieving and estranged father blames him for her death—not the same. Feelings are not facts. No one still lives who can say what the real feelings were. It is drama. Lady C did a hatchet job herself on the Queen Mother, and since she wasn’t part of the QM’s inner circle and is operating on hearsay and tittle tattle fir her living, How is she more unimpeachable then Peter Morgan? Are we not entertained? Yes—And that is her chief purpose just as it is Mr. Morgan’s.

We’ve all got to earn our crust somehow. Lady C is an ongoing source of humiliation to her former husband who once felt obliged to apologize to Prince Charles personally for her creative output regarding his family. We can’t forget why she’a in the business she’s in—the Royals provide her income and attention and that wellspring isn’t going to be drying up any time soon. The Harkle debacle is like winning the lottery for her. Castle maintenance being what it is, darling. Lady C is absolutely unique, and a very interesting person but strip away all the affectations and she knows what side her bread is buttered on. She’s basically in impeccably dressed ambulance chaser. Peter Morgan is a playwright; he does not pretend to be a journalist or a biographer. Nevertheless, he can offer insight into his subjects even when dramatic license is in play.




lucy said…
Wow @JennS I cannot wait to check out all your information! I did check out misc pics. What a fool He is 😂
She is beautiful. I wonder if T takes off her wig, eyelashes and makeup for bed?
JennS said…
@AnT
I'm glad you found the Bradby article - it was the second one in that post the 'poisonous' one! I'm having some trouble when pasting into the fields - at times the text is not being very obedient.

Yes, the Chelsy pics really tell a story. The two of them were obviously close. I have more but once again this program is primitive and the pics would not sit where I wanted them to...
We never see MM and H intimate the way H and C were. He had a better friendship with C as well. You can see her laughing at his jokes which I don't think we've ever seen M do. He looks happier, more content and at ease, more natural and more in love! There is one photo where Kate and Chelsy are both laughing with H. Can't ever imagine MM sharing a moment with Kate and Harry like that!
Hikari said…
Affected not effective...Anyone who has to be speeded up artificially to be tolerable on the ear is not that effective.

I have just ordered several books on the QM including LCC’s. I am looking forward to a superlatively bitchy read and by all accounts I’ve heard from here, she won’t disappoint.
JennS said…
@Lucy
You're talking about Chelsy being beautiful right? I think so too. She unfortunately, felt she could not handle the royal life and came to that decision at William and Kate's wedding while viewing all the pomp and ceremony.😢
Elsbeth1847 said…
FF the 24th edition up next?

Seriously, comments made by wordsmiths here have pointed out how much JH's wife has this drive that if only they can talk to you/make you aware of their side of the story ... that then (poof) you will be on their team instead of the other.

Combine that with my comment that people stick with the familiar pattern (because it is familiar) that this will be stories we have heard before ... from the first edition or the interview or all the various close friends with no names attaced mention stories but with more details than the first time you read it. We might read something we could classify as "new" but then, like with the new compared to old versions we have heard:

Ask: Why are we only hearing about this detail now instead of before? huh, like if it were that important and needed to prove a point, if it was so supportive, then why would this detail have been excluded the first time around? ... shouldn't it have been there way back when?

or why now? why do we need to hear this additional information at this point in time? Who does it really benefit? who does it diss?

On a side note, I don't know much about publishing but I knew someone who would rant/rave that they were unable to update their book to a newer edition over facts. I don't know the accounting involved but they were most unhappy with their publisher.

With that in mind, if they have to come up with the next version of what has already come out, it sounds like they are running out of areas they think they can tap money. Normally I would think about how they are diversifying their talents but we aren't seeing/hearing of anything to sustain interest until the final product emerges in any of the past directions (Apple TV/O mental health, Spotify, Netflix, the speaker's circuit or the new job). So the book deal must have been either lucrative enough to think of another one or they are really digging for change in the sofas.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

I disagree. I don't think that Lady C and Lainey Lui are in the same business at all. I think Lady C is more of a historian of personal lives while Lainey Lui is a gossip monger. Lady C checks her sources and formulates opinions with the legal repercussions in mind.

She has the mind of a writer which is why she takes her time when speaking. She has an extremely good vocabulary and an encyclopedic knowledge of history. The amount of details she retains for a woman of 73 is phenomenal. She is a pleasure to listen to and she always educates me which is the ultimate compliment I can give anyone.

And she has been privy to a lot of information which she will never reveal. If only one could get her to talk.... maybe someone needs to get her drunk. ;-)
JennS said…
@Hikari

I too could not stand to listen to Lady C - I found myself wanting to reach into the screen to pull the words out of her mouth.
I only watch her occasionally at high speed with the captions on and while doing something else at the same time!

Did you see my Chelsy pics?😁
Midge said…
@JennS
Just looked at your Chelsy pictures- I see what you mean. A world of difference.
Hikari said…
@Jenn

I know not being able to handle Royal fishbowl life is the official reason Chelsy gave for ending things with H, and at the time I believed it. Now, with the ugly side of H undeniably out there—Including the highly disturbing allegations of violence toward women—I think that explanation may have been a face-saving measure: H’s (punchable)face mostly...But maybe hers too. If she had been an abused girlfriend, That’s usually a source of shame to the victim. If memory serves, H and Chelsy had actually broken up prior to W &C’s wedding, but she agreed to attend as H’s plus-one. He may have been hoping to woo her back as a last ditch effort. That was really the first time I got a good look at her in a formal setting; I had only seen a few photographs of her before, And I didn’t realize at the time that they were on the skids.

I was very underimpressed with her attire at the wedding and had her pegged as a party girl—ie H’s standard type. I was surprised to learn thatcher father was the biggest landholders in Zimbabwe—So, not a little club girl after all, but from a very wealthy and influential family—and she has a brain as well—a qualified barrister. Smart cookie, and ambitious. A woman like this would be miserable married to H, and that would be only partially from Royal pomp. The irony being, if each had been deserving of her, They might have found a meaningful life at least part time in her native Africa, where are the pomp would not have followed them. H never really wanted that kind of life, or else he wouldn’t be behaving this way now. He had many chances to live outside of the Royal pomp before running to LA.

Chelsy looked as sad as I’ve ever seen anyone look at H’s wedding. Not sure if she was sad for herself or for him, but it’s sure been a disaster on every level. Considering their complicated history, it was sporting of her—and Cressy too—to show up. If it were me, I don’t think I could have managed it.
Natalier said…
This video will have you LOL. How her dress came about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXERIVa7ixU&t=18s
JennS said…
@Midge
Yes! Indeed! The first pic alone where their heads touch - there is absolutely nothing like this between H and M. M leads H around with her claw like she is his Mommy.

@Hikari
I don't know if H and C would have made it but I think they had a good close relationship-much better than the one he has with his mommy-wife.
They were young but they were together for many years. I don't believe those rumors about H being violent with women for a number of reasons. I don't think C would have stayed w/ him that long if he was abusive.
I agree that H and C might have made a good part-time royal life together living half the year in Africa. I suppose H was too immature at that point to get his act together. He still is. C did do a brief interview and spoke about not liking the royal attention. They had broken up but had gotten back together and she went with him to William's wedding. Unfortunately, it was there that she realized she did not like all the ceremony and attention. The pic of her with Kate and Harry is from Peter's wedding which William didn't attend. I think Harry escorted kate that night as well as Chelsy. Can you imagine any attempt like that with the Megalo? There were rumors that H and C spoke over the phone before his wedding and they both cried - I wonder if that story was true.
The stories about a girlfriend saying H was not very nice were from Cressy. She posted a vague insta comment that folks assumed was about H. Supposedly it was about his cheapness. He would not pay for her airfare as his date to a wedding (Pelly) in the US.
Harry was never an angel but none of this would have happened if MM had not come along. He's practically a zombie now.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jenn

I believe the rumours about Harry being violent because men aren't always violent with their partners. They are violent with someone they feel is below them, and there are countless examples of men attacking prostitutes that are said to be good husbands.
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Opus said…
Hang on there. Most men are not violent towards their partners (permanent or temporary or prostitute). If one watches Andrew Lawrence it is MM throwing the cutlery at Harry not the other way round. What about that nutcase Caroline Flack! Most men (I regret to inform the ladies here) will tell you that they have never hit a woman but if pushed will sheepishly admit to being the victims of female violence - but of course that does not matter and cannot be taken seriously because who complains about being hit by a girl indeed usually that is a compliment as it reveals that 'she is interested' at least enough to hit you. Of course if a woman hits a man, 'he deserved it'.

One of the things I like about this blog (apart from the high calibre of the writing) are the avatars and I would thus respectfully ask Ava C kindly to provide one.

Elsewhere I have seen it suggested that Prince Philip died from an adverse reaction to the second jab: one day he is under his own power walking out of hospital and a few weeks later he has died. It can happen but if it was the jab the government would ensure that was covered up.

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