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Open post: The Death of Prince Philip

 I'm very sorry to hear about the passing of Prince Philip, just a few months before his 100th birthday.

He was an outspoken man who was always one of my favorite Royals.

Here's a space to discuss his passing, as well as any implications it will have for other ongoing Royal events, such as the Sussex saga. 

Comments

Portcitylass said…
US mag has JH on the front with the caption, The Billionaire Prince.
Portcitylass said…
And Google decides when I'm lass or girl these days. Too lazy to change it.
Anonymous said…
@ConstantGardener33

How neat! I bet that house has so many stories.

The house does have many stories, but unfortunately I’ve forgotten the ones the Galton family told me. It was really something to look out the windows and see Hampton Court right there! The most vivid memories I have from my visit (aside from the tunnels that housed a unique species of blind mice) are of Mrs. Galton’s exceptional culinary skills, and the formal dining room with murals painted by her—the theme being Lawrence-of-Arabia-ish. She could have been a set decorator. The family were very gracious hosts to this American rube.
CookieShark said…
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@Rebecca, wow, she painted that? So impressive. She did a wonderful job. It's such a warm room. Agree with you, I can't even imagine looking out to see Hampton Court next door. So wild! I get excited when Lucy Worsely posts photos of it on her facebook page. I love the history of it. What a location-to be able to go out for an evening walk and have it be *there*. Would be like jumping in a time machine. My imagination would run wild. Thank you for sharing it with us.

I'll put the link here in case anyone wants to see what we're talking about:
https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/58274968/
AnT said…
VANITY FAIR now tells us that

"After returning theUK for the first time since officially stepping down as a senior royal and moving to California last year, Prince Harry is catching up with his family starting with his cousin and close friend, Princess Eugenie. Eugenie is the first member of the royal family to see the Duke of Sussex sine his arrival back in his home country, according to PAGE SIX. Harry reportedly flew into London's Heathrow Airport on Sunday and then went directly to Frogmore Cottage where he is quarantining in accordance with UK coronavirus restrictions ahead of Prince Philip's funeral on Saturday. The princess, her husband Jack Brooksbank, and their newborn, August Philip Hawke Brooksbank, have been living at Frogmore for the past few months, the residence on the grounds of Windsor Castle that Harry and Meghan Markle lent to the growing family after moving to America. This is also the first time Harry will get to meet Eugenie's son, who was born in February and given the middle name Philip after his late great-grandfather.

"But while Harry is getting the opportunity to reconnect with his family, he's still reportedly very worried about leaving his pregnant wife back in America. The Duchess of Sussex was unable to make the trip, as her doctor advised against traveling since she is currently very pregnant with their second child and is due early this summer. Harry is reportedly planning to stay "for a week" according to a source who spoke to Us Weekly and "He's already really missing Meghan and Archie and has been FaceTiming them every day to check in. He actually speaks to Meghan a few times a day because he worries [about]leaving her when she's so far along in her pregnancy."

SO LET'S PARSE THIS. He got to the UK Sunday night. This article was published 6 hours ago, on Tuesday morning in the US. Which would be 4:30 AM in Montecito. Yet: He has been FTiming them EVERY DAY. What kind of Every is that in about 24 hours?
@AnT, sounds like an MM-written piece. Doesn't make any sense. Jack and Eugenie moved out of Frogmore, right, and haven't been living there. And they'd let him, someone quarantining from another country, be in the same house as a newborn with no immune system? And now she's back to the "my doctor said I shouldn't go" excuse? Can't keep her lies straight. Again.
JennS said…
@AnT

Well, that is an obvious submission from the Montecito camp!🤣

I wonder if they are setting something up because he will end up leaving the UK before the funeral even takes place?
Perhaps he will have a fit when he finds out he will not be able to talk them into allowing him to wear his uniform and he'll throw his toys out of the pram and refuse to participate.
AnT said…

So per the VANITY FAIR article (post at 8:35 PM above):

•Harry just flew in and s quarantining at Frogmore WITH THE BROOKSBANKS and their NEWBORN INFANT.

•Harry and Megs have "lent" them Frogmore Cottage, a residence they demonstrably do not own, and were only renting themselves. Frogmore House is a 17th-century English country house and it is owned by the Crown Estate.

•Harry is FaceTiming and calling Megs and "Archie" EVERY DAY, even though he allegedly left Montecito Sat night and flew a red eye to London Heathrow, arriving Sunday evening in London, and this article was scribbled up for morning publication this morning US time, so what is "every day" spread across barely two days since he left Mudslide Manor?


SO IN THE WORLD OF OPPOSITES where Megs and Harry now reside, this means:

*.Harry is staying alone at Nottingham Cottage, versus bringing the gift of Covid strain #787 to Eugenie, and versus having Megs invite the paps thru her favorite VF mouthpiece eto disturb his cousin and her new infant and camera-traumatized Harry's privacy.

• Yah, if the Brooksbanks are staying at Frogmore, it is courtesy of the Queen and the Crown Estate, not the Harkles. So either the evil and envious Megs wants the young family pinpointed and attacked by creeping paps, while she dwells in secrecy in CA, or they aren't there, OR, she actually put this out because she doesn't know where Harry is, as he is not answering at Soho or Nottingham Cottage.

* Either (1) Harry is drunk on a floor and not returning calls. Or, (2) he is not making calls, because on the ride in from Heathrow the Range Rover pulled over, Lord Geidt showed him the first folder of the first truths about "Meghan Markle" and Harry became hysterical, was sedated, and is now in chemical coma wearing a blue HEADS UP! sweatband, under guard, as psychologists prepare to intervene.



@AnT, love the mental movie of Lord Geidt and The Folder!

She is getting in an "I'm *such* a nice person because I have lent Jack and Eugenie Frog Cott. I'm letting them live there." Even though we all know no one's living there and it belongs to The Crown.

You are right about it being the opposite of whatever is true: he's at Nott Cott, not answering the phone, ignoring her, etc. ha! I hope they stationed a deprogrammer in his room.
SwampWoman said…
ROFL, I agree with JennS and AnT: I did a giant eye roll when the article said that he is quarantining and the first family member he met was Eugenie. I'm pretty sure that Eugenie, Jack, and baby August are (a) not living in Frogmore, and (b) wouldn't be exposing their newborn to any cooties that Harry might be carrying.

I'm pretty sure that the RF regard both Harry and Meghan as something one may carelessly track into the house on the bottom of one's shoe after visiting the doggy park.
AnT said…
@Constant Gardener33,
@JennS,

Sorry, was scribbling the part 2 of my comment! Yes agree with you both! DEFINITELY another lame piece of nonsense pushed out of Montecito, DEFINITELY! The usual "source" and the usual media used. Senseless content. Syrupy, makes no logical sense, and contradicts actual obvious facts....shall we go on?

This hints to me yet again that Markle was not allowed to come, and will be expressing her feelings about this exclusion through increasingly weird PR.

Will she suddenly wing in "risking her life!" to be near her beloved Philip, and her poor little Harry? I don't think so, because she hates confrontation, and this lion's den would terrify her puny bully's bravery. And, because she can simply sit on her arse on the one dingy white cheap sofa in "Montecito" and simply say she was secretly there and her sugars will believe it. And then she can say she had a "miscarriage" at Frogmore and again, no one asked if she was okay so she flew bravely back to CA on Oprah's jet. Cue Oprah interview parts 2 and 3.
Christine said…
AnT- hahaha! OHHH now that's a visual!

I am CERTAIN Megs is pulling out all her narcissistic, sociopathic tools on her 'multiple' calls to Harry every day. Can you imagine it?

Harry- Oh hi Meg, how are you doing love? I just got back from having a few cocktails with Eug and Jack and meeting their baby who is the cutest and.............

Meghan- *Silence*

Harry- Megs, what's the matter love? Are you okay?

Meghan- *Rubbing her stomach* I've been having some pains H.

Harry- Oh no!! Well, can I do something, er, what can I do to help??? Maybe I shouldn't have come over here!? I mean, it's nice to see my family and all, and well, they've waved to me a few times when I've seen them outside and well, I think I saw the top of George's head and I was hoping well....

Meghan- *Long Silence* Did you call your father for a meeting as we discussed??

Harry- Well, I tried, I mean, I guess he must have changed his number and I'll try to see if I can get the new one from the footman but Meg, I'm so worried about you and I hope you'll be okay and well....

Meghan- *Moans rubbing stomach* Don't worry about it. Markus is coming over here tonight.
*Click*

Harry- Hullo, Meghan, hello???

LOL something like that
JennS said…
**@SwampWoman

LOL! The RF seems to be tightening the reins a bit more than usual with Harry this week but I wish they would release some info via their palace sources about where he is and what he is up to in order to cut off her ability to weave her numerous tales.

The London Times/Valentine Low has a new article about who is making the 30-person-cut. I had posted the original list from the Telegraph the other day but now it seems they may be re-doing some of that list. He also states some family members will be able to follow the ceremony on a special streaming service rather than having to watch it on television.

Perhaps Harry could be relegated to the streaming service room if he doesn't behave. (My opinion/speculation only)
@AnT, it's like her mind is breaking down. Nothing she is putting out makes sense, and there are even contradictions in a single release, let alone between releases. Short circuiting because she was rejected, and lost control. The RF took back the upper hand here. Agree with you that we will likely see increasingly weird PR from her. She cant't cope. These all reek of panic and desperation.
Museumstop said…
@AnT

Hahahahaha that was brilliant, 'chemical coma wearing a blue HEADS UP! sweatband'

Oh gosh ROFL me too!

Meghan and Harry are being true to themselves. The only ones who can contain their mania and change course of their plans are the people these two are shooting at. I need a scene a la the movie 300, 'This is Sparta! (Britannia)'
lucy said…
@PortCity wrote:

"US mag has JH on the front with the caption, The Billionaire Prince."

LOL!!! 😭😭😭

Oh my gosh so funny!! Somehow I feel so denied in not being able to see it. Where was it?

Found this old one. Meg looks so masculine. Harry, manic
https://www.foliomag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/5384-us-weekly-Cover-2017-March-13-Issue-755x1024.jpg

Lots of great posts! Loved reading of Prince Philip and his 50 year old trousers. The picture frame..sure to be within possessions. So incredibly innocent, heartfelt and romantic.

I also too was reading article on web of how enthralled he was with all things UFO. Giant map even dotted with pins representing alleged sightings. Lol , awesome! I wonder of HM thoughts regarding this particular pastime.

I know I am forgetting much more . And yes to post of thought of Meg implying zoomed funeral for her. LOL!

Plain sad her saying Archie will hold Philip in his heart. Makes about as much sense as Archie gasping at beauty of Vancouver or Africa or wherever that faux sentiment was attached, at 6 months of age.

I did see post ABC covering funeral. Thank you so much to poster! I knew network would cover, pleased to see it will be live.

Great posts abound, thank you!


AnT said…
Tuesday night, Nottingham Cottage:

Harry lifts his head from the unmade rumpled bed which smells faintly of mildew and hope. The torn top of a crisps bag clings to his sweat-damped temple, and he brushes it off. Dim light filters into the dark room from the lone window, along with the sound of a distant car. Painfully, he raises his head, and squints at the glint of bottles scattered across the old priceless wool carpet, along with an empty pizza takeaway box. His street clothes feel stuck to his sweat-soaked body, in a strangely familiar way, and a sudden sense of jubilation fills his soul.

It was all just a bad dream!! Life is back to normal, as it always was, waking every day in dirty clothes, hungover, no plans, alone! There is no "Meghan Markle" or "Markus Anderson" breathing down his neck with their tapes and threats! There is no stack of notes about the doll they call Archie! No need to talk to James Corden ever again, or squat by an empty plastic playhouse in an abandoned theme park while an angry woman called Doria screams at him to pretend he is talking to a kid!

Oh my god! This means there was no pandemic either!! No Oprah interview! And --- Grandpa is still alive!

Harry's eyes light up! Why, his uniforms must be in the closet!! He'll take a shower, a real shower, and put one on and go see his Pops and Grandpa --- and Grandma, and she'll give him money for the pub tonight and maybe the polo fees!!! And maybe he'll meet a nice bird, or call Chelsea or that little brunette who played Victoria on the telly, what was her name -- ah yes, Jenna!

Leaping up so quickly that his old suede shoes fly off the bed, Harry clutches his forehead. What a bender! What day is it! he grabs his IPhone and flicks to his favorite website with all the comments, DM....

Wait....what? What? Boris is PM, whinging about more lockdowns? Royal funeral Saturday? What? What? No...it' can't be.

He slumps back onto the bed. He flings one arm across his suddenly damp eyes, and feels the scabbing from a recent human bite wound. Running a finger across his right wrist, he feels the bump of the tracking chip implant she made him get at Christmas...the only gift he got, which hurt a lot, and Markus and Meghan, drinking and laughing in their apartment didn't care....

An Adele song suddenly broke the silence. Harry jerked and grabbed his phone again. "Adele! I'm here but --"

"Nobody can stand you, you daft little prick, you helped kill Phil, didn't you know, with your Oprah show with your American stick insect! You stupid stupid prick! Stay away from funeral, you hear me? I'm singing at it and I don't want to be pelted with tomatoes from the crowds who are ready to do you in, you miserable git! Don't text me again!!"

Harry stared into space as Adele clicked off. What now? What to do? It was all real, all of it....there was no place to go, no place Megs wouldn't track him to and ---

He brow cleared. Africa. He looked around for his bags.
Re PP's Savile Row tailors:

Patrick Grant - he's about to be on TV again in a new series of the Great British Sewing Bee. (BBC 1, 9pm tomorrow) It's such a joy to see the beautiful tailoring he wears - there's so little well-cut clothing about in everyday life these days.

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@Rebecca -

I'd forgotten your mention of the Hampton Court Tunnel.
Ray Galton - one of my comedy heroes!

It's possible there was originally a natural sink hole already there in the chalk that may have been enlarged. Chalk is relatively soft and it could have even been done manually.

There are plenty of instances of people whose war work was so secret that they didn't even tell their spouses. What went on at Bletchley Park was so hush-hush (eg decoding Enigma) that little was known until the papers were declassified 30 years after the war. It was still largely ignored until the site was saved from redevelopment about 20 years ago and became a major Heritage treasure.

Only then did people feel free to talk, having signed the Official Secrets Act 60 years earlier. There was even one married couple who had both worked there but neither the knew the other did to each other until they were of advanced years.

I used to read PoW escape stories in my teens - and how the tunnellers used to hide the spoil in specially sown bags in their trousers and drop it surreptitiously on the `kick it around till you lose it' principle.

The first headmaster I worked for had been a decoder at Bletchley and a colleague in the science department of another school where I taught had been a behind-the-scenes technical chap at Stalag Luft III, of Great Escape fame. It was only when they'd died that I heard about it what they did in the War.

There may have been public access to WGP in the war but there were ways and means of concealing things.
AnT said…

The story of Philip and his 50 year old pants was delightful. Made my day. Aw PHILIP!


@Christine, LOL!!!! love your play dialogue!! We're are both imagining wild scenarios!! "...and well, I think I saw the top of George's head and I was hoping well...." : LOL!!!!! You KNOW this is exactly what is happening. He sits alone as life swirls by and Megs and Markus have a vacay without the wiglet-stuffed bump!
Anonymous said…
@ConstantGardener33

I'll put the link here in case anyone wants to see what we're talking about:
https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/58274968/

Thank you so very muchfor the link to the Ivy House listing! Yes, that’s the very same mural Mrs. Galton painted in the dining room. And I vividly remember the small but cozy kitchen where she worked her culinary magic. They were such an interesting family, well-connected but very humble too. I felt so lucky to have met them and experienced that beautiful home.
Christine said…
Oh my gosh, thanks for these laughs AnT! What can we do but laugh?! Harry made his rumpled bed full of bottles and broken dreams, now he's gotta sleep in it!
JennS said…
@AnT
Another good story AnT!🤣
It reminded me of how I read that Markle complained the second-floor ceilings in the old historic NottCott were so low that Hazza could not stand up straight. I've since on occasion imagined him bumping his head and getting knocked out when attempting to access the second story of his wee cottage.
abbyh said…
Not very strict about quarantining if they could see each other. Certainly not the spirit of how to be safe around people you love (which could lead to criticism of Royal rule flouting).

Could be risky to the baby. And we don't know if any of the people have had any of the shots (or if they have, how far along they are in the 2 week build up after a shot). Nothing about that but yet could be helpful in explaining behaviors.

KCM1212 - this is a nice explanation which rather fits the timeline we didn't understand at the time. Picking up on their focus on compassion and have yet to demonstrate it to close family on either side - bullet point.

The weird PR - that does sound more incoherent than usual. Is anyone really paying attention to the claim she willing to forgive them? now? - considering all the focus is Funeral, who will be one of the 30, all the stories about him, on HM's loss and what a tragic childhood, the necessity of walking 2 steps behind his wife and so on. Why not say that during the interview (why wait)?

On a different note: I have started seeing the royal People edition out on the shelves. Nice photo of Catherine.


(Lurking - I am sad that you had that experience under such a painful and difficult time.)

AnT said…
@Constant Gardener33,
That's kind of what I think too --- his escape is driving her mad. She was told not to come, was told her passport would be rejected, or realized she couldn't travel due to whatever muck she fed to Mr Justice Warby about pregnancy being equal to a deadly disease.

She is stuck by her own games, she never expected Harry to scoot back to the UK after she's been ordering him around for three years. And now, she's cracking. A narcissisist cannot be controlled or caged this way, and she did it to herself.

I wonder how far she'll snap, will she and Doria create a pregnancy emergency? Something extreme will happen, Friday or Saturday, because she is out of her mind, and to prove that she is the most important person ever in the world, she will do something to force him to choose. In this way, she will feel more powerful than the Queen. She made Harry choose her over friends, choose her over family, choose her fantasies over his military career and upbringing, choose the US over the UK. Now she will want him to "ruin" the funeral by claiming press and forcing him to choose her on a world stage yet again.

You know who needs to step in and handle this? Carole Middleton. Yes, I said it. She will never let this arse and his one-dollar wife ruin the monarchy for Catherine and William. Let her join with Lord Geidt and let Harry have it. (Not that I care if he goes back to Megs or not, he is worthless, but I do NOT want him letting the machinations of Megs to ruin the funeral week. Philip and the Queen deserve better. I would suggest Anne, but I think she would outright kill him at this point.)
AnT said…
@abbyh,

Agreed. The nonsense about how Megs is "willing to forgive them" is classic abusive narcissist language (they beat you to the ground, but are willing to forgive YOU for falling). Others with extensive experience of narcissists can explain this better than I can.

I also think it may be her brainless way of either trying to get a last-minute invitation to the funeral, for her Oprah contract; or, her way of trying to seem "nice" because now Harry is squarely in the land of the staffers she abused, the family she trashed, and powers potentially greater than her own. So she wants to seem "nicer" to Harry so if someone has a word with him, she won't appear as thoroughly evil as she is. See? I am NICE! I forgive and love your family, really! As a narcissist who thinks every word she says is the truth and will be believed by everyone because she says it is the truth, she won't realize how insane this sounds. Depending on what she has said to Harry for two years, it might sound stranger to him than it does to us -- but she won't understand that.



`Demanding apologies' from those they've wronged, then eventually claiming that they've `forgiven' those they have wronged, are two more pieces of narc behaviour I've known directly, as I expect other Nutties have.

---

`...smelling of mildew and hope' - an exquisite juxtaposition!
AnT said…
@JennS,

LOL!! I hadn't read that about the low ceilings!! Well, gosh, no wonder she felt their only option was to move into a wing of Windsor Castle ("you can have til Thursday to move your hats and bits out, dearie, there's a good girl, Queen."). Must have wanted George's Hall with its two-story-high rooms!
Anonymous said…
@WBBM

I'd forgotten your mention of the Hampton Court Tunnel.
Ray Galton - one of my comedy heroes!

My friend Sarah had told me about her dad’s success as a comedy writer, but in the most understated way. And Ray was so kind and charming—no pretenses whatsoever. It was only later when I read about his career that I realized how accomplished he was.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Yes -- the apologies -- thank you for explaining this. I know from your posts you went through hell with a narc, you can understand her behavior from a vantage point (unfortunately enough) that many of us cannot.
Anonymous said…
@AnT
(I would suggest Anne, but I think she would outright kill him at this point.)

It could always be made to look like an accident. “Oopsie, I didn’t mean to push H down the elevator shaft to the crypt.”
JennS said…
@Rebecca
Thank you for the apology re the Bradby story. It seems the idea had enough meat on it to be credible and I thought it might be true. I left an explanation about the genesis of the rumor and an apology to the blog in an earlier post which I hope you found.
I try to be careful with how I word everything that I post here and although I presented it as something that was being discussed on LSA and wrote "if it was true" to clarify the rumor status in my original comment, I felt responsible for bringing the story here. It still might have some truth to it so we shall see. But I don't think there is anyone here who would deliberately plant a rumor with an ulterior motive.
😁🤗😁
AnT said…
@Rebecca,

True enough! Or, being trampled into pulp in the stables by her excitable new 17-hands-high stallion, Justice Without Mercy?
AnT said…
@Rebecca,


But, actually, pushing him down a shaft into a secret crypt actually with her own two hands -- ta ta! Naff off! -- would probably be much more satisfying for someone like Anne, so I withdraw the stables accident. :-)
AnT said…

FROM THE SUN!!!!

MEGHAN Markle "should be quiet" if she doesn't want to be the centre of attention at Prince Philip's funeral, a royal expert has said.

Angela Levin made the fiery jibe after the Duchess of Sussex's pals reportedly claimed she stayed in the US to avoid stealing any limelight from Philip.

Meghan, 39, has not confirmed the comments from her friend and has not said anything publicly about her absence from Prince Philip's funeral.

But according to the Mail, the source said: "Meghan said her main concern right now is supporting Harry. She said she left it up to him as to whether or not she would attend the funeral."


The friend added: "Meghan said it's during these times when family should come together, put their differences aside and unite as one.

"She said this is what Prince Philip would want and that she's willing to forgive and move forward."

But Angela Levin said it would be audacious of Meghan to assume she could steal the Duke of Edinburgh's limelight and the Duchess should instinctively take a back seat ahead of his funeral.

The author of Harry: Conversations with the Prince, wrote on Twitter: "If Meghan didn't want to be 'centre of attention at the funeral', told 'friends' she 'adored Prince Philip' and that she was ready to 'forgive the Royal Family,' she should be quiet.

"Instead all three comments show her patronising and grandiose behaviour. I don't believe them."

Explaining her comments to The Sun Online, Angela said: "I think it’s astonishing that somebody who has been a member of the Royal Family for a very short time has the audacity to think she is going to be the centre of attention at a funeral of the most extraordinary man of 99 who was the husband of the queen for over 70 years.

"I think you should instinctively take a back seat and if you feel that you will be [attracting attention] you don’t say anything about it.

"You come and you’re very quiet, you sit in the back and wear black as you are told. If you don’t want to be centre of attention then be quiet."

The Duchess of Sussex, who is expecting her second child this summer, was, however, advised not to travel to England for the service this weekend due to her pregnancy, a Senior Palace Official and Buckingham Palace spokesman confirmed.

Meanwhile, Harry made the 5,400-mile journey from the United States back to the UK over the weekend.

The Duke of Sussex was seen getting off a British Airways flight from Los Angeles that arrived at Heathrow at 1.15pm on Sunday.

He will now have to quarantine for ten days — though he can leave it after five days if he provides a negative test under the Government’s approved Test to Release scheme.

Harry will be allowed to attend Philip’s funeral regardless though, because guidelines state those coming in from abroad can leave isolation “on compassionate grounds”.

It is the first time the Duke has been in the UK since last March — and will be the first time he and William have seen each other since his and Meghan's explosive Oprah interview.

But Ms Levin believes the brothers are unlikely to discuss the bombshell interview ahead of their grandfather's farewell.

"I don't think Harry and William will talk about it much before the funeral," she said. ###
AnT said…
PART 2 of 2,
THE SUN comments from Angela Levin -- the article ends this way, I missed this when copying and pasting:


"1.) Harry has got to be in isolation and 2.) It’s not really appropriate to do that.

"I think people are looking after each other in their sadness but I think a proper conversation could occur after the funeral."

The royal commentator added: "I hope that it can just begin something."


##
JennS said…
@Wild Boar

It seems like the monarchy has some 'control' over the UK and the press right now with the mourning period regulations.
And I've read about many regular television programs being temporarily suspended in order to show programs on Prince Philip. The newspapers are justifiably filled with the Duke of Edinburgh.

Do you think the RF could ask the media to refuse to run Markle's obvious schizophrenic PR plants at least until the funeral is over? In your opinion is this something they would be able to accomplish?

If she is already this bad on Tuesday, I hate to see how she will progress through the week especially after Harry appears in public.
I wonder if H has read the NHS guidelines?

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/how-to-avoid-spreading-coronavirus-to-people-you-live-with/

How to avoid spreading coronavirus to people you live with

If you are self-isolating because of coronavirus, there are things you can do to reduce the chances of spreading any infection to the people you live with.

Try to stay away from people you live with:

If you have symptoms, you should stay away from other people you live with as much as possible.

If you can:

stay on your own in one room as much as possible and keep the door closed

avoid using shared spaces (such as the kitchen) at the same time as other people – eat your meals in your room

use a separate bathroom - otherwise, use the bathroom after everyone else and clean it each time you use it, for example, by wiping the surfaces you've touched

How to reduce the spread of infection in your home

Do
wash your hands with soap and water often, for at least 20 seconds

use hand sanitiser gel if soap and water are not available

cover your mouth and nose with a tissue or your sleeve (not your hands) when you cough or sneeze

put used tissues in the bin immediately and wash your hands afterwards

clean objects and surfaces you touch often (such as door handles, kettles and phones) using your regular cleaning products

consider wearing a face covering when in shared spaces

keep windows open in the room you're staying in and shared spaces as much as possible

Don’t

do not share towels, including hand towels and tea towels

If you live with someone at higher risk from coronavirus
It's especially important to try to avoid spreading the infection to anyone who's at higher risk from coronavirus (such as people who are 70 or over, pregnant or have a weakened immune system).

If you live with someone at higher risk, try to arrange for them to stay with friends or family while you're self-isolating.

If you have to stay at home together, try to keep 2 metres (3 steps) away from each other. If possible, try not to share a bed.

Information:
More information about self-isolation
Read the full guidance about self-isolation on GOV.UK.
@AnT & Rebecca, my thought was Anne on horseback dragging him around the fields by a rope tied around his feet. Justice Without Mercy can run really fast cross country when it wants to and has great endurance.

@AnT, yeah, I think she's losing her mind without him at hand to control(physical distances makes all the difference in situations like this), the RF regaining the upper hand; and these releases are illustrating her increasing mental instability and desperation. I was laughing so hard at your vignette just seconds before a phone interview! Was worried I wouldn't be able to clamp it down in time.
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AnT said…
@JennS,

Conversely, all the abominable "Meghan says" articles make her look worse and worse, even absolutely bonkers, at a very serious time in the UK. ....and maybe this will build up public scorn to such a degree that even dense Harry will be made to see what a *itch and a cad they are, and how the public view them now?

If he is indeed sitting alone in quarantine for a few days, he'll be on his phone and a laptop eagerly looking for stories about himself and the Missus. Let him get an eyeful.

Then, let him go to the service among respectful, normal, well spoken women in his family and their kind spouses. Perhaps this will help him see that he has been lodging with a harridan? Perhaps the appalling, loud, hate-riddled behavior of a 40 year old angry teen-woman won't seem so cute anymore?

The crowds will not jeer him on the day of the funeral, out of respect for Prince Philip and the Queen. Meanwhile, he is in isolation, and I doubt family is beating a path to his unknown door. S

So, let the articles and the truth of speakers like Angela Levin spin into the press and let the comments tell him the truth. Let him say peevishly to a friend on a call that this is so mean -- and let the friend respond with a long pause then a ".....welll..."

I think Harry is 99% hopeless, and I don't much care what happens to him anymore, but I would love the penny to drop while he is in the UK so that when he returns home the true horror of his situation with a screaming batsh** crazy wife, fake child, etc slams in in the face. Then he may actually leave her, divorce her, and the UK can get rid of the clinging poisonous spider once and for all.
AnT said…
@Constant Gardener 33,

Your comment:

"...my thought was Anne on horseback dragging him around the fields by a rope tied around his feet. Justice Without Mercy can run really fast cross country when it wants to and has great endurance."

....is making me HOWL!!!!!!!!! Oh my god, yes, this. This must be Handbag's fate.
The BBC went over the top in its response, imo, by running reports of Prince Philip end to end, on a continuous loop it seemed. About the only other news was on the `red button' text.

I'm not sure what was on the other channels, apart from programmes I didn't want to watch anyway. I found it relentless and would have appreciated some reflective, calm, music to break it up.

The BBC has had a record number of complaints - I don't know how many were from angry republicans/anti-monarchists, or from people like me who felt in need of comfort, whether in words or music, rather than the same information over and over again. Goodness knows why they had to handle it in this way. It seemed to go on for days...

I suspect the BBC is a law unto itself
I think the PR tantrums we are seeing is due to the fact Meghan knows no one is buying the 'pregnant can't fly' claim. That story died pretty fast. She's panicked. She wasn't invited and is person non grata.

What's interesting to me is that Harry knows his own wife wasn't invited and went anyway! He really didn't stick by her and their part this time.
@AnT, yes it must be his fate, especially after he threw his Auntie Anne, of all people on this earth, under the bus to the literal world with the racism accusation. It's unforgivable. He has it coming.
@ Not Meghan Markle -

Hear! hear! I'm sure you're right!

YankeeDoodle said…
As always, I am days behind comments. Just a few remarks:

Alice Roosevelt, the flamboyant, acid-tongued oldest child of President Theodore Roosevelt, was quoted as “My father is the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral.” Teddy was a great man, but he needed constant attention. Alice was friends with every President, was the most important person in D.C. for her entire long life, and was famous for her quips. She had a pillow in her drawing room that was needlepointed with her favorite saying: If you have nothing good to say about anyone, please sit next to me.

When I spent my junior year abroad(third year of four years of university/college) I sloshed through, head bent, the tunnel under Jerusalem that King David had built in order to escape from his enemies. It was endless, and after thousands of years, still in use!

The HAMS are unraveling. Every thing they do or say is a disaster. They are so toxic that the Wuhan laboratory would not touch them.

YankeeDoodle said…
Junior year in Israel*
xxxxx said…
Well done today Ant! You are turning out possible Megsy scenarios that have me laughing. She should hire you ghost write the rest of the her movie about her ongoing life.
AnT said…
@Constant Gardener33,

I actually forgot they put the blame on Anne! How on earth did I forget that? Oh, yes, you are so right. Anne, and Zara, and worst of all, big Mike, will have little pouting, thoughtlessly cruel Harry in range now.



@Not Meghan Markle,
Yes, yes, yes. Great comment. I don't think she ever wanted to return to the UK, but she didn't want to be banned. Control!

And she certainly didn't want him to go out of her clutches. I wonder actually if the ongoing financial investigation of the foundation, and investigation of the bullying claims, have her more than a little frightened right now. Perhaps she thinks someone might spill some hard truths to Harry, or show him some video footage or receipts. I don't think that would actually happen, but since she spills every bit of info herself she might think others would do the same.

JennS said…
@AnT

That Sun article from Angela Levin is great and I will save it for my file!🤣

Yes, I have to admit it's interesting to watch MM go bonkers and I would love for Harry while away from the control of The Claw to read articles about his nutso wife!
Seeing it from the UK perspective might open his eyes but I think that might depend on how he is received by his family. If they are cold to him and if he asks for certain concessions, money etc while there and doesn't receive them he may just lose it himself. Remember his red and angry face at the Commonwealth event with the 'preying' mantis on his arm?

I am not completely sure Harry will make it to the funeral. I think there is more of a chance he will than he won't, but I won't be surprised if he loses it, chucks the pram toys and runs. Or SHE will cause him to run back to the US prior to Saturday due to some type of dreamed-up emergency over Fauxchie or Wokeshia.

I feel bad for the RF and am caught between wishing the press would not print any of her PR games and waiting for the next bat-shit-crazy story to add to my files! We do need some entertainment while the Kraken is put on hold and if her behavior this week helps to bring about their demise then I'm all for it!
🤪🤣🤪🤣🤪
KCM1212 said…
@AnT , @Constant Gardener33

"Justice Without Mercy"????lolololol
and
dragging Harry through the sagebrush, " really fast cross country"

omg...you guys are killing me!

although...that is really a perfect name for a race horse.

I saw that a woman finally won the Grand National....

(say it with me, girls)

"Nuhn uhn, Velvet won it YEARS AGO (1944)"

JennS said…
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@WBBM,

I saw the BBC complaints article in the DM. It ran the same article for 2 days. I’m sure there were a lot of anti monarchists commenting (they were harsh and rather mean) and/or some very bored people. My general feeling was that no one is forced to watch, lots of other channels to watch etc. Sky, channel 4 and 5 all had coverage of his life and death too. Radio 2 had music for two days with some commentary, which I personally enjoyed, but each to their own.

I suppose a few decades ago many people around the country would be wearing black armbands (I saw a few wearers on the telly). Maybe the continuous coverage on the BBC was to show deference and wanted to reflect some kind of modern day public mourning along with remembering Philip’s life (I saw one documentary presented by Dan Snow; it was excellent). I honestly don’t know, but seeing the BBC is so anti-establishment these days, it does come across as rather hypocritical. :o/
KCM1212 said…
JennS

I would love to see her intercepted (well in advance) by Williams RPOs, and what the crowds see on the screens is her being dragged away, screaming, with her paper crown askew and her black dress ripped. Leaving a trail of yak hair and pillow feathers in her wake.

And about 5 thousand cell phones recording every bit of her drunken rambling.
AnT said…
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Miggy said…
New Lady C video

Lady C REVEALS Meghan/Harry troubles/Royal Family struggling 2 cope/know they're disturbed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFx4i5E7140
AnT said…
Meanwhile in Oprah's Guest House #7,

"There! That will teach him to disobey!" said Megsy to the oatmeal-scented air of her bungalow. Her giant stainless steel shears flashed as they zipped through the last of Harry's gray polo shirts and rumpled suit and old baseball cap. "How dare he go to an old man's wake, when I have taught that family do not exist?"

She turned the volume up so Sheryl Crowe's "If it Makes You Happy", played on repeat, blared out as she kicked the pile of chopped up fabric under the white sofa that was her only furniture. Then she decided to kick the sofa for good measures as she howled along with the 90s's tune. The sound was so loud, she didn't hear the St. Rob Shelter animal rescue van pulling up to rescue her rescue chickens and her two rescue dogs, and zoom away to sanctuary, leaving just a large plastic doll behind in the dust of the Archie Chicken Ranch.

"Why hasn't he called?" she hissed at the large photos of herself in Reitman's polyester office wear on the wall, pictures which were normally covered for Zoom calls by three stark pictures of beaver nests she'd stolen from Tyler Perry's garage. She grabbed her phone and punched in his number and let it ring. "Where are you? Where are you? You sniveling little nothing! Call me! Or else! You may be Steven Spielberg but you're no princess and I want a movie!! This is your last chance to have me star as the new utterly diverse "Indiana Diana Jones: Raider of The Doomed Palace"! I can stop being pregnant at any time in literally in ten minutes. Call my girl Rachel by five, or I will turn the eye of Isis upon you, I am warning you! I know people, and I can have Netflix and US Weekly and Montecito Coupon Clipper ban you! You're nothing without me, remember that! Look what happened to the Queen!"

She threw the phone and it hit the horsehair-stuffed 7 Month Bumpsy laying on the sofa just as it rang. She leapt for it so quickly, her 7-foot-long Tuesday wig flew off.

"Oh goddamn it, what do YOU want? The whole world knows I am heavily pregnant and you abandoned me, for some old dead man, so this better be about the tiaras and money you are bringing back, Harry!" she barked into the phone. "Oh, the stories! Yes I have more stories coming out, and I don't feel like holding anything back, and Markus is busy writing more upstairs, so you better be. -- what? what did you say to me? Who wants a word with me? You know I charge $10,000 for a word with me for every five minutes and -- who? What?"

Meghan stood stock still. The red velvet and ermine robe she wore seemed to wilt on her square frame as the strident firm voices of Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley filled the air of Bungalow #7. "‘Darling, if you want to talk bollocks, you’re better off downing a bottle of whiskey. At least that way, you’re unconscious by the time you start to take yourself seriously you bloody awful little strumpet. You are the town bicycle aren't you! And no 55 year old woman shaped like a pack of cards is a pregnant billionaire even in LA, darling, so we are taking Harrykins with us and you are about to get Ab Fabbed, darling. Our little Meghan's Crazy program is going to be this Sunday's biggest ITV hit as we help the country laugh again after poor dear Phil. Expressly made at the request of Her Majesty, thrilling! So darling this is your funeral now, so do buy some better hair and go shave something, won't you? The press will be at your bungalow any minute! Come on, Harry, you sack of homeless bald spots, let's give a girl some beard burns while we call the press! No more crying or being hit by cheap shoes! that's right, you can laugh again now! Oh, no those bottles are for the divorce next week, you naughty boy!"
KCM1212 said…
Kate could act as peacemaker between William and Harry on day of Prince Philip's funeral
The siblings are understood to have spoken on the telephone since the Duke of Sussex landed in the UK
By
Camilla Tominey,
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
13 April 2021 • 8:00pm

The Duke of Cambridge will not be reunited with Prince Harry until the day of their grandfather’s funeral, when the Duchess of Cambridge is expected to act as peacemaker between the royal brothers.

The siblings are understood to have spoken on the telephone since Harry landed in the UK on Sunday, and hope to finally see each other in the flesh on Saturday morning, ahead of the 3pm ceremony at Windsor Castle.

It will be their first face-to-face meeting in more than a year and comes after Harry and Meghan gave an interview to US chat show host Oprah Winfrey suggesting an unnamed royal had queried Archie’s skin tone as well as describing William as “trapped” in the monarchy.

Sources close to both couples insist that they will be putting their differences aside for the sake of the Queen as the family gathers at St George’s Chapel to remember the Duke of Edinburgh, who died on Friday, aged 99.

The key revelations from Harry and Meghan’s Oprah interview
Prince of Wales “stopped taking” Harry’s calls after their royal departure.

As one royal source put it: “They know it is not about them on Saturday - it is about honouring their grandfather’s memory and supporting their grandmother.
“I would be extremely surprised if that wasn’t front and centre of both their minds.
“They will be keen to spend time together as a family, in the same time zone for once.”

Another well-placed insider said: “The entire focus is on the Queen. No exceptions. A family unified.”
AnT said…
@KCM1212,
Oh my, I would lovvvvvvvvvve to see that too!!!! Can you imagine!!? Dare we hope?!?!
KCM1212 said…
Part Two

The Duchess of Cambridge, who Harry described as the “big sister I never had” when she became engaged to William in 2010, will help to broker peace between her husband and brother-in-law.

Kate, 39, was said to be “hopeful of a reconciliation” with Harry and Meghan before the Oprah interview, telling friends she did not think it was too late to “pull them back in”.
During last month’s prime time two-hour tell-all, Meghan accused Kate of making her cry during a bridesmaid's dress fitting before her wedding to Harry in May 2018 and questioned why she had not acted to correct reports it was the other way round. She said Kate “owned it and apologised” with a handwritten note and flowers.

Claims later emerged suggesting Meghan had slammed the door in Kate’s face when she made the peace offering on the doorstep of Nottingham Cottage, the Sussexes’ former home at Kensington Palace.

With pregnant Meghan unable to attend the funeral on doctor’s advice, it is hoped that Kate may be able to foster a rapprochement, believing it to be “incredibly sad” that William and Harry are not on better terms.

According to one source: “Being so close to her own siblings, Pippa and James, and having witnessed first-hand the special bond between William and Harry, she has found the whole situation difficult and upsetting.”

The Duchess of Cambridge, who Harry described as the 'big sister I never had' when she became engaged to William in 2010
The Duchess of Cambridge, who Harry described as the 'big sister I never had' when she became engaged to William in 2010

More introverted than her public persona might suggest, the level-headed Duchess has been credited with “taming” William’s sometimes fiery emotions since they married a decade ago.
Unlike her husband, who is a “bit of a news junkie”, the mother-of-three tends to shy away from press coverage and has gained a reputation for her unflappability in the face of a royal crisis.

KCM1212 said…
Part Three

William “hit the roof” when paparazzi photographs emerged of his wife sunbathing topless during a private holiday in the south of France in 2012 but Kate largely shrugged it off. When the couple won 100,000 euros (£92,000) in damages from Closer, the French magazine that published them, they donated the money to charity.

The source added: “She is certainly someone who shies away from conflict and will be hoping to sooth the tensions.”
Meghan’s friends have suggested she is willing to put the past behind her and turn over a new leaf in her strained relationship with the royals.

They said the Duchess believes Prince Philip would want to see the broken bridges mended. The Sussexes' second child, a girl, is thought to be due as early as June - another opportunity, perhaps, to bring the family together, albeit via transatlantic video call.

After flying from Los Angeles on a scheduled BA flight and landing at London’s Heathrow on Sunday lunchtime, Harry is currently quaranting at Frogmore Cottage, his former Windsor home, where he is required to remain until Friday at the earliest.

Although he will be allowed to attend his grandfather’s funeral regardless "on compassionate grounds", he can only leave self-isolation after five days rather than 10 for another reason if he provides a negative coronavirus test under the Government's “Test to Release” scheme.

Because he has to take a PCR test, rather than a more rapid, lateral flow test, which produces a result in minutes, it is unlikely he will be confirmed as negative for Covid until Saturday morning.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are currently spending the Easter holidays at Amner Hall, their Norfolk home, with their three children Prince George, seven, Princess Charlotte, five, and Prince Louis, who turns three later this month, and are not due back in London until the end of the week.

With the guest-list limited to 30 under the latest government coronavirus guidelines on indoor worship, no great-grandchildren are believed to be attending the funeral.

It is thought the Cambridge children will return to Kensington Palace with their parents to prepare for the start of the summer term on Tuesday. This would potentially give them the opportunity to see ‘Uncle Harry’ outdoors before he returns to the US.

Yesterday (Tues), Harry’s spokeswoman declined to discuss his movements after the funeral but said he would be “following Covid-19 guidance” throughout his stay in Britain.
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I say eff that.
Kate should not have to play peacemaker with that traitorous little gremlin or his wife
KCM1212 said…
@AnT

I am crying!!!

I especially love the call to Speilberg, the beaver nests and St. Rob rescuing the rescue critters...
AnT said…
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AnT said…
@KCM1212. said, "I say eff that.
Kate should not have to play peacemaker with that traitorous little gremlin or his wife"


.....KCM1212, I am so glad you added that to the end of your article post because I was furious by the time I got through it! I agree with you 100%. Why should it be Kate's problem to pacify the little monstrous Harry and bring "peace"? To me, that is placing a silly burden on her, and moreover, as a story it is merely playing further into the Harkles' hands and their desire to appear "back in" for future royal-based deals.

There is absolutely no way to allow these two thoughtless, lying, heartless criminals back into the fold. There is no need for a word of reconciliation after what they did, especially after the Oprah interview. William doesn't need to "make nice" with his brother, and then be hit with further mess and accusations and alleged secrets being spilled by his psychotic wife. Megs threw Kate under the bus, lied about her, implicated a child in her wedding drama, scheduled an Oprah program for cash while Prince Philip is dying. This is over. The family thing is done unlessl Elon Musks sends Megs permanently to Mars in a sealed titanium drum.

This is an article that speculates on something I am sure no one wants any longer: a reconciliation between a vicious useless little man and his hardworking, respectful brother.

We have a family member I loathe for a specific reason. After years of second chances, I was done with them about five years ago.I might nod at this person at a funeral, and be publicly civil. But I would never, ever entertain a single word out of their mouth ever again, much less some well-meaning move of reconciliation. This isn't a novel; this is life, and some people are what they are and if what they are is deeply toxic, that's it for me.

So, I tend to imagine that at this point, William might feel the same about Harry. Sad, but sorry, bye. Kate need not waste a moment's thought about their relationship. I think after that Oprah interview, and Harry's lack of defense for Catherine, Anne, and the family, even kind Catherine probably no longer cares. She's not stupid. Frankly, we don't even know how kind Harry was to her in the threesome beyond a few laughs for the camera, and we don't know how he treated her during the Megs years. She might be well over him too. She looked it at the Commonwealth Day Service. She, and Sophie, and William, were done.
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

So glad you got a smile from it. These two have me so mad this week, I felt a need for some levity. ;-) I hope Prince Philip will understand!!
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

Sorry in my rant, I forgot to mention that I simply LOVE "that traitorous little gremlin" as our new description for Harry. It's perfect.
Miggy said…
Philip knew real suffering, unlike the Sussexes. (Brendan O'Neill)

https://medium.com/@burntoakboy/philip-knew-real-suffering-unlike-the-sussexes-e2702e1edd8c
SwampWoman said…
KCM1212 said: I say eff that.
Kate should not have to play peacemaker with that traitorous little gremlin or his wife


I'm with you. I actually said that out loud, too.

I think they should smuggle in a riding whip for Princess Ann's seat, and put Harry directly in front of her.
@AnT, I don't know what you do for a living, but as my Irish friend says, you are wasting yourself in it-unless you happen to be a screenwriter!! The beaver nests, St. Rob, and I read that bit in Joanna Lumley's voice...You have a gift! Brilliant stuff! Thank you for making me laugh. The anxiety and stress lately have been truly overwhelming. I am grateful to you.

Yes, not fair to Kate to have to be peacemaker. Her and William aren't the ones that did anything wrong. They were both victims of the rotten duo. Being the perpetrators, it's up to H and M to beg for forgiveness, and even then they don't deserve it and cannot be trusted ever again. It's over. There's no possibility of rehabilitation. Too much damage was done.
Anonymous said…
Lots of speculation in the Tominey article. I do not believe for a second that Kate and William want Meghan in their lives. Ever.
Mel said…
After everything the Harkles have done and said to Catherine, she owes H NOTHING. If he wants peace, it's up to him to make it happen.

If mm truly forgave Catherine way back when, why the h*ll is she STILL talking about jt????? I forgive you, but will use it as a club to beat you with at every opportunity.

If mm truly forgave her, it would no longer be a topic.
AnT said…
@Miggy,

That article from medium.com is amazing. Thank you for posting the link.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman said,
" think they should smuggle in a riding whip for Princess Ann's seat, and put Harry directly in front of her. .........and I am helplessly laughing.


@Constant Gardener33,
I know you've been up against a lot lately, and I have you in my thoughts; if I was able to give you a little laugh too, I am happy.
Opus said…
In the end Radio Three resumed normal service on Monday morning. I did not e-mail (not sure how that would work) to complain and frankly as hardly a day goes by on my favourite radio station without my feeling the need to complain at least once I regard complaining as a waste of everyone's time. (Hint: I want you to continue to pay the licence fee so I may listen to what interests me for free).

Andrew Lawrence in his impersonage as Sebastian Fat-Salary explained the corporations position as to the non-stop coverage of the death of the DoE. What worries me is what will they do when The Queen dies. They can hardly broadcast for less than three days indeed surely they must broadcast for considerably more, yet that will outrage the television watching audience even more than the three days (over a weekend - a locked-down weekend at that) devoted to the DoE.

Tominey's latest strikes me as a case of being required to provide a thousand words. She has no better idea than you or I as to what is happening. Are we even sure Harry is in England? Even if he is, the notion that he will comply with the covid restrictions is surely moot. What are they going to do should he breach: imprison him? prevent him from attending the DoE's funeral? Return him to America? Come on! I am sceptical as to his attendance at the funeral: this is the same person who a month ago trashed his entire family (and the nation) in the most public manner and with the present equivalent of kryptonite. It may have been written by Markle but his eulogy to the DoE:viz "please return all company property to the appropriate officer when leaving the premises. Thankyou for your service to Archewell enterprises" which is more or less what he said hardly persuades me that he will attend the funeral but if he is in England he has an ulterior purpose. Expect drama so as to upstage the funeral.

Here then is my own tribute the DoE: despite being married to the world's richest woman the pair of them lived austerely. We should all follow their example.
Miggy said…
@AnT,

You're very welcome.

It's my turn now to say 'thanks' to you and to others, for the fun you all bring to this blog.

Laughing helps to keep me sane throughout this Harkle madness :)

KCM1212 said…
@AnT
If anyone would truly enjoy your tales, I think it would be Philip!

I agree with CG33, you should be writing.

Has anyone watched the new Lady CC video? I seldom do, because they are so long, and well, can drag a bit (God Bless You @Hunter!). But I enjoyed this one. Its modest sized for her, a mere 40 minutes and she talks a lot about Philip, and also what the RFus going through (especially with Harry). She also says the interview caused trouble between them (yay) because M blindsided H with the skin color bit.

I tend to not believe that. Oprah has an edit button and it wasnt used. The asshats had enough clout with her to forstall any meaningful questions, so....

But she does talk about the RF as a family. And when I think of how my family handled a very difficult sister (who was not a narcissist, thank the stars) and completely banjaxed it up, I sort of get it.

What do you do when you love someone and know to cut him off will probably result in his absolute ruination? In addiction programs when a family members asks how to help they are told "pray for a quick bottom".

I loathe them both, but I do feel for the RF. Especially HM. She has lost too much in the past few months. I believe the interview, Harry trying to milk her before Megsxit and the "service" remarks killed H for her.

Like a little boy with an axe damages an Oak.
JennS said…
I didn't realize just how obnoxious Omid Scobie is and how far he goes to carry Markle's narratives until I just saw this article he wrote for Harper's Bazaar on 3/10 following the Oprah interview.
How can this man be called a "royal editor" when he is clearly working against the monarchy? I will never understand how an institution as powerful as the Firm would not just quietly shut down someone like this - someone he is publishing lies and actively working against them.


Stifling, Toxic and Racist—Duchess Meghan Never Had a Chance at The Palace

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a35783710/meghan-markle-prince-harry-interview-essay/
KCM1212 said…
@swampwoman

She would have him begging for mercy, Swampwoman! LoL!
Miggy said…
Not sure if this was posted earlier but it's a good read.

If you were William, could you forgive Harry? In the circumstances of their grandfather's funeral, it's the noble thing to do... but AMANDA PLATELL fears the brothers' rift is beyond repair.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9467589/If-William-forgive-Harry.html
The Queen 'understands' why pregnant Meghan Markle hasn't flown from US with Prince Harry to attend Prince Philip's funeral, a 'California source' tells People magazine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467581/Prince-Philips-funeral-Queen-understands-pregnant-Meghan-Markle-flown-US.html

Snip: "The Queen reportedly told pregnant Meghan Markle she 'understands' why the duchess has not flown from the US with Prince Harry to Britain to attend Prince Philip's funeral on Saturday.

Amid claims in the US that the duchess skipped it to avoid being 'centre of attention', a source in California has insisted that the 94-year-old monarch told Meghan she 'understands' why she did not come.

Revealing she and Harry were 'in contact with the Queen' after Philip's death on Friday, the source also told People magazine that it was 'always a given that Harry would return to England for his grandfather's passing' and that Meghan had 'expressed condolences' when speaking with the grieving monarch. "
Nelo said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467689/amp/Prince-Andrew-wants-wear-military-attire-Prince-Philips-funeral.html?__twitter_impression=true&s=08

Andrew is stupid
SirStinxAlot said…
I am skeptical MM ever spoke with the Queen. Her condolences are as empty as her soul, not needed not wanted. H maybe but not MM. Jmo
Snarkyatherbest said…
AnT. Love your post. And yes if Princess Anne doesnt do her in then getting ab fabbed by Saunders and Lumley would be great. Pay for view. I would sign up for that
She's going nuts just like we discussed earlier. She's out of control melting down. People is a known outlet of hers, a "source in California" is herself, and going by the rule of opposites, she never spoke to The Queen, never expressed condolences, etc.
xxxxx said…
Nelo said...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467689/amp/Prince-Andrew-wants-wear-military-attire-Prince-Philips-funeral.html?__twitter_impression=true&s=08
Andrew is stupid


Yeah he should wear his blindingly red military getup that he appears in on the balcony during The Trooping. Lit up like a red lightbulb. Along with every colorful medal he can find in his drawer. (sarcasm) I should not be cynical, Andrew was in the Falklands war and has no blots I know of in his military career.
KCM1212 said…
Oh, @Miggy

That article from Medium is excellent! Brendon O'Neill calls himself a Republican, but he is kinder to the RF than many, including Royal Experts with an addiction to plastic surgery.
He is fair.

I quote from it:

"But here’s the thing, here’s what was different about Philip and the generation he belonged to.

He didn’t wallow in his pain. He didn’t pour it on to the world. He didn’t make a public spectacle of his suffering.
Rather, he got on with life. He marshalled his inner moral resources to overcome his early difficulties and the emasculation he felt in the British royal family and did what he felt he needed to do: pursue a life of service to an ideal larger than himself – the Crown.

In contrast with today’s fashion for seeing every slight and burden as an intolerable assault on one’s “wellbeing” that must be gabbed about endlessly in therapy or on Oprah, Philip said in response to an interviewer who asked him about his hard early life that it was just life. The question is how we deal with it.

So, resquiat in pace, Prince Philip. With his passing, the old era seems to be passing more and more too."

Thank you for the link.

@Opus

"Here then is my own tribute the DoE: despite being married to the world's richest woman the pair of them lived austerely. We should all follow their example."

I think Philip would take that as a great compliment.

And @MuseumStop

I loved the story of Philip and his trousers. That says so many noble things about him.
jessica said…
Funny, on Friday the only news that came out was that Harry spoke to his dad.

Meghan had to put out that she has direct contact with The Queen, to try to distract and one up the confirmation that Harry is quarantining (thus has not spent time with Eugenie anywhere, much less Frogmore)

She’s losing it.
Elsbeth1847 said…
I am of the belief that it is not up to Catherine to broker peace.

If there is any truth to the story that Megs slammed a door in Catherine (or anyone else)'s face, then that is one of those kind of moments that Maya Angelou was talking about when she said something about listen/be aware of when people tell you who they are.

I know that there are people who think they are experts and therefore pontificate about how William should be the greater of the two and he should make the olive branch gesture (it will make him look kingly).

If JH has done any sort of appeasement privately, then there could be a case to consider something. But publicly there has, however, been nothing which indicated they were attempting to undo any of the damage done by their machete wild swinging statements in all directions. Negotiating with people who do not believe they have done anything they should not have will not be terrible productive.

So, from where I'm sitting (not seeing everything nor hearing everything that the BRF has access to, I would be concerned that any attempts at brokering a peace would be viewed as total capitulation that JHAMS will be given everything they want. And, if we think this is ugly, when they run into a brick wall of that was not our intention/what we were offering, the napalm will start up again.

JennS said…
**@Puds
Thank you for looking into the Bradby story some more. With the recent article claiming William will no longer interact with him over his bias for Harry, I'm finding myself intrigued well beyond the idea that he could possibly interview Harry this week. Even if an interview were not to take place any time soon I can see some potential for this story to be quite interesting as it seems to have some weird angles including this...

**@Midge Thanks so much for the reminder that Bradby threatened the RF with tales of Harkle interviews once before. I had forgotten about that and will look up that article in the Times record.

And this...

Some interesting pieces picked up in Dan Wooton's DM article about William ending his relationship with Bradby are as follows:

Quotes:

Communications between Duke of Sussex in California and Bradby in London have become commonplace.

Among senior royal aides, there is growing anger at the way Bradby and ITV News seem to have become a mouthpiece for Harry and Meghan's gripes about the Royal Family.

More recently, Bradby is believed to have been central to ITV being granted the rights to broadcast Oprah Winfrey's incendiary interview with the pair, where they lobbed a number of grenade-like allegations at the monarchy, including claims a senior royal had made racist comments about their future child's skin colour.

The Mail on Sunday revealed earlier this month that Bradby has 'significant sway' over how Meghan is portrayed more widely on ITV.

They reported he may have been involved in pointing the Duchess 'in the right direction' over how to complain about Piers Morgan's criticism of her on Good Morning Britain, which resulted in him quitting the show.

A source told the newspaper: 'Tom Bradby has a certain caché at ITV as their newsman. He is also the man with the golden goose in the bosses' eyes as he has a hotline to Prince Harry.'


IMO I think Bradby has thrown himself all-in with the Sussexes. Perhaps someone's suggestion upthread that he will be writing a book is likely, or maybe he will be starting to report on something other than the royals? ITMT I guess being the "hotline to Harry" is enough for him?
JHanoi said…
I love the stories of PP's thriftiness. Its a wartime greatest generation thing combined with a hardship childhood. We could all learn something from that!

And I suppose thats where JH gets his one grey suit and holey shoes from...but PP always looked elegant, not rumpled, maybe it was his subtle pocket square
xxxxx said…
KCM1212 said...
He didn’t wallow in his pain. He didn’t pour it on to the world. He didn’t make a public spectacle of his suffering.
Rather, he got on with life. He marshalled his inner moral resources to overcome his early difficulties and the emasculation he felt in the British royal family and did what he felt he needed to do: pursue a life of service to an ideal larger than himself – the Crown.

In contrast with today’s fashion for seeing every slight and burden as an intolerable assault on one’s “wellbeing” that must be gabbed about endlessly in therapy or on Oprah, Philip said in response to an interviewer who asked him about his hard early life that it was just life. The question is how we deal with it.


Prince Philip - The epitome of the British stiff upper lip that Megsy was railing against. Aside from this kind of discipline that wins wars, PP knew how to enjoy himself. He took up painting, he traveled all the time to represent the BRF and Great Britain. Often without the Queen. He visited 80 or more counties, He took up carriage driving and competed in this with the commoners and Aristos. He manned the BBQ grill at Sandringham 3-4 a week in summers. He did other cooking too as an amateur Palace chef. He was very diverse in the best sense of the word.

PP and his painting talent - https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/09/prince-philips-secret-painting-talent-with-the-queen-among-subjects-14385118/
JennS said…
@Jessica

I was just on LSA and found myself in a thread that was loaded with Markle's stans. Ugh.

They seem to be claiming that royal reporters were the ones who originally stated Harry was staying at Nottingham Cottage - which makes more sense. But the stans are saying that the Harkles' PR people/spokesperson corrected the press with the info that he is staying at FrogCott.

I don't know why this is so important to them - the stans and the Harkles, other than to perpetuate that they have a relationship with Eugenie and family, to cover that they may have been kicked out of that house, or to cover for suspect handling of the restoration and whether they ever actually lived there as a family. If Harry needs a UK address what is wrong with NottCott? All very weird as usual.

This thread was also loaded with the most horrible comments about William. I just don't understand where that comes from.
KCM1212 said…
@JennS

I find the pandering to the Sussexes by relatively intelligent members of the media to be a source of wonder and botheration.

It seems so obvious to any thinking person that the duplicitous duo is on the downward swing of the pendulum.

And they are the architects of their own downward spiral through deceit, greed, envy and aggrandizement.

How can anyone wish to through their lot in with them? They risk their reputation, their careers and, I think, their souls.

It's proof that "like attracts like". Those devoted to them all seem Renfield-like in their abject toadying.

And honestly, it seems sinister.

The Oprah interview will be remembered as the gong sounding the end for the Harkles and their minions. The callous timing and MMs remarks have inextricably linked it to Philips passing.

They have created and released their own Kraken.

It will will take a little time, since Harry seems to have some cachet left (??) but bankruptcy and ruin are clearly their future.
SwampWoman said…
All that horse hockey about Catherine having to be the peacemaker for the sake of the family sounds like just another way for Meghan and her flying monkeys to shift blame for her and Prince Charmless' actions to Catherine for not working hard enough for brotherly reconciliation.

That idiotic due does not seem to get it. This isn't about William and Harry. This is about Harry and Meghan insulting his entire family, from his grandfather on his deathbed to his grandmother the Queen, his aunt and uncles, and his cousins. Then that idiot bint had the excessive nerve to demand an apology from the Queen because of bint's bad behavior!

KCM1212 said…
Talk about duty!

The Queen returns to work today to host a retirement ceremony for the Lord Chamberlain


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467695/Queen-hosts-retirement-ceremony-former-Lord-Chamberlain-Earl-Peel-death-Prince-Philip.html
Teasmade said…
xxxxx et al: With all these stories of Philip's talents and accomplishments, is it not occurring to H&M that they have neither? That they have done nothing with their lives recently? Through their twenties and early thirties, they had gainful employment. In his case, arranged for him due to his position. In hers, the result of some striving no doubt but given a huge boost by her father or her husband. But none now, and definitely no accomplishments.

We will never be reading of books published or previously unknown avocations or skills, and certainly no "little people" coming out of the woodwork with charming stories of encounters with a witty, humble personage.

I mean . . wouldn't you wonder, if a relative died and the papers were full of their accomplishments . . wouldn't you think, "gee, I *may* have fifty more years to live (if the drugs and alcohol don't get to me first). Do I have enough time to learn to paint, write a couple dozen books, play an instrument, do some good in the world, learn a few languages, and earn some adoration?"

Now more than ever do I hope she's reading here, and that he is getting someone to help him sound out the syllables or just read aloud to him.
Girl with a Hat said…
I am not surprised at Philip's varied interests.

I did his natal astrological chart after reading an article that said that his time of birth was 10 a.m. in Corfu Greece June 10 1921.

It seems that Philip had a Leo Ascendant with many very fortunate aspects and a few not so fortunate ones.

His natal Mercury trines his natal Uranus which is probably why he seems to use his brain so much and is interested in so many subjects.

His natal Mars conjuncts his natal Sun which explains his energy.

However, his Mars (and his sun because they are conjunct) square Saturn which is the harbinger of a difficult life. However, his Saturn conjunct Jupiter.

Ziggy said…
Awesome posts today- thanks all.

You really nailed it with Meg breaking down now that Harry is away from her, and the resulting batshit crazy PR from "sources."

You can really see Meg's narcissism coming through in these stories. She "doesn't want to be the centre of attention at the funeral," the Queen "understands why she isn't attending." What absolute gall to imagine that she could possibly be the centre of attention in this circumstance, or that the Queen has given her a second thought during this painful time.
Petunia said…
Meghan didn't talk to The Queen. Meghan herself is the source for that lie, or Scobie is. All of those stans on other sites....I wonder how many of them are MM, how many are Scobie, and how many are just a few people with multiple screen names.

I've been watching some commentary on various topics by Alan Bond on Sky News Australia. Worth a listen.
Girl with a Hat said…
A good one ! Angela Levin, the royal correspondent, wrote:


“If Meghan didn't want to be ‘centre of attention at the funeral’, told ‘friends’ she ‘adored Prince Philip’ and that she was ready to ‘forgive the Royal Family’, she should be quiet.

“Instead all three comments show her patronising and grandiose behaviour. I don't believe them.”

And mentioning about doctors advising her not to fly, she added: “Interesting that Meghan's doctor has advised her not to fly because of her ‘condition’ yet so far has been happy for her to have a baby at home.”


https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1422740/meghan-markle-prince-philip-megxit-prince-harry-queen-elizabeth-ii-latest-news
AnT said…
@Ziggy, ]

Your thoughts match those of journalist Angela Levin who said a few strong things in the Sun today:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2694469/meghan-markle-attention-philip-funeral/

(Full text posted above, on April 13, at 10:27 PM.)

JennS said…
KCM1212 said...
@JennS
I find the pandering to the Sussexes by relatively intelligent members of the media to be a source of wonder and botheration.
And honestly, it seems sinister.
The Oprah interview will be remembered as the gong sounding the end for the Harkles and their minions. The callous timing and MMs remarks have inextricably linked it to Philips passing.
They have created and released their own Kraken.

.....................

Great Post @KCM1212!

Someone like Scobie is a little easier to write off as a sycophantic toad but some of the others like Tom Bradby and Chris Ship are more puzzling. It's interesting that both of the latter two work for ITV.

I found the Times article that @Midge quoted and it was indeed threatening. The title alone is terribly disrespectful to the RF - "Harry and Meghan’s escape from the poisonous palace." The Harkles have been hanging the threat of an interview over the family's heads for years now via Bradby, Ellen and Oprah.

I completely agree that the Oprah interview will forever be associated with Prince Philip's death. The Harkles are stained by those circumstances now and I think that may be one of the reasons MM is unraveling. ​
It has also been interesting to note how Gayle and Oprah have taken heat over Philip's passing and how the stress from the interview and their pushing of MM's narrative may have exacerbated his condition. Even CBS seemed uncomfortable when they reported his death without mentioning the interview.

Thanks also for the timeline list from Tumblr. I've been working on a few timelines to put on my blog and can possibly get some use out of that one for reference.
I've got articles and other info but was struggling a bit with how to organize it. There is just so much info to deal with that I've had to narrow it down to what aspects interest me more.
Ziggy said…
Thanks @AnT for the Angela Levin article:
"Audacious, patronizing, grandiose" indeed!!
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

So interesting to read the astrological profile of Prince Philip. So often those star profiles seem quite right. Thanks for looking that up and posting it.
AnT said…
@Ziggy,

Lol, that was my favorite part about the Angela Levin piece too!
AnT said…
@JennS
@KCM1212,
It is bizarre, and I know what you mean, it seems so weird and sinister. What can those three men (Bradby, Ship, Scobie) expect to get out of this longterm? Still can't see they are backing two legless horses?
AnT said…
@Teasmade,

I love the thoughts in your comment, every inch of your post.

This part--- "wouldn't you think, "gee, I *may* have fifty more years to live (if the drugs and alcohol don't get to me first). Do I have enough time to learn to paint, write a couple dozen books, play an instrument, do some good in the world, learn a few languages, and earn some adoration?"--- is so true. I absolutely cannot fathom how they have every opportunity at their fingertips, every sort of connection, and they dribble their time away on Oprah and trying to make the world think they live in a mansion with a doll.

Can they be so shallow that they think selling oat milk and complaining about their pampered lazy millionaire lives is going to be viewed like some huge stride forward for mankind? I suppose the answer to that is "yes" and that, in the face of the death of Prince Philip, just makes me see Harry is hopeless. She is of course hopelessly deranged.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Ant, that's my interpretation of his chart. I would be interested in seeing a pro's interpretation.
Girl with a Hat said…
Does anyone know how many languages Philip spoke? I suppose he spoke English, Greek, German, Danish, and French but I'm not sure.
JennS said…
If Bradby did an interview with Harry it would consign his career to history. Why would ITV request one and on what basis? I can’t think of anything more inappropriate (with its timing to name one thing etc) in an antagonistic kind of way than something like that.

It doesn’t happen as much, but the press do restrain themselves a little when it comes to reporting on the Royal Family. There is a lot of misinformation and fake news on the internet etc. I give little credence to some of the stuff I read and this is one such piece.

..................

I think Bradby has already chosen sides and attached himself to the Sussexes - see my other posts. He seems unafraid to speak very negatively about the monarchy and I do not find it difficult to believe he would interview Harry over his grandfather's death nor do I find it difficult to believe ITV would air it after the mourning period or that it could become another article like the one he wrote for the Times.
I enjoy researching and know potential 'tea' when I see it. Even if this interview never happens this story most certainly had all the right ingredients to make it a possibility, has a background that fits in with Harkle history and was worthy of some investigation.
AnT said…
NEWf from US WEEKLY, posted 7 hours ago:


Family first! Prince Harry has met Princess Eugenie’s newborn son, August, upon his return to the U.K. for their grandfather Prince Philip’s funeral, a source exclusively tells Us Weekly.

The Duke of Sussex, 36, was introduced to his cousin’s little one, who she shares with husband Jack Brooksbank, while staying at Frogmore Cottage, the insider explains.

Us confirmed earlier this week that Harry has been quarantining at the U.K. property, which he and wife Meghan Markle were gifted by Queen Elizabeth II in 2018, since arriving in town following the Duke of Edinburgh’s death on Friday, April 9. Philip’s memorial service is set for Saturday, April 17.

* * * * * *

So again this sulky ginger germ bag arrives from California on a commercial flight in his rumpled soiled clothing and filthy old shoes, and is introduced to a newborn and holes up with her parents to "quarantine" -- what?????????

The "insider" spewing out these stories is certifiable and will cause an investigation of Harry's "quarantine" and then the Brooksbanks may be banned from the funeral along with Andrew unless all get tested. But, maybe that is the frantic "insider's" goal. AND why would an "insider" keep letting the world know where security-crazed Harry is, anyway? Wouldn't this endless pounding about Frogmore be dangerous? Or, are we learning that only Megsy requires privacy and high security?

I still don't believe for a minute that anyone is at Frogmore. Sorry, Megsy. No pictures, no proof. I think the Brooksbanks remain in the lodge with Fergie and Andrew, and Harry is in Soho House or Nottingham Cottage.

AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,
well, you did a very good job with it, I think.

I just found this for you, and plan to read it too:

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Philip_Mountbatten
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT, I've seen different times of birth for Philip, but it was just released that he was born at 10 a.m. I think the link you have has 9:46 p.m. as time of birth
@AnT

I would be surprised if Drip is holed up with the Yorks as well. Stranger things have happened though. But what's in it for the Yorks? Are they hatching plans to (together) squeeze more money out of HM and eventually work their way back into being royals for PC?

Whomever is leaking these stories needs to give it a rest. This is so disrespectful. May PP rest in peace and his will exclude Drip. There. I said it. I hope to high heaven Harry is cut out of the will.

PP's estate is estimated at around £30.000.000. if you divide that (equally) among 4 children and 8 grandchildren, that's about £2.000.000 each. Or enough for Grip and Drip to live 4-6 months on. Thats it.
lucy said…
@GirlWithHat

I really enjoyed your synopsis of Prince Philip's birth chart!

Curious which site you utilized (if any) I always found this one to be most thorough (anyone can edit birth info to look at own self if interested) you really need to know exact time of birth, without it "houses" drastically change

IMO, on broad level and with limited knowledge, this did seem to resonate with PP. Now up top is "compatibility" feature. If you knew HM birth time it would be interesting to get peek into how they favored/contrasted one another. Their longevity is testament to their love and loyalty ,superseding any chart, but may make for interesting read :)

Apologies for long link, hope it works



https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?natal_input=1&send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=10&narozeni_mesic=6&narozeni_rok=1921&narozeni_hodina=10&narozeni_minuta=00&narozeni_city=Corfu%2C+Greece&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Corfu&narozeni_stat_hidden=GR&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat_hidden=Ionian+Islands&narozeni_input_hidden=&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_sirka_stupne=39&narozeni_sirka_minuty=37&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=19&narozeni_delka_minuty=55&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=placidus&hid_fortune=1&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=1&hid_vertex_check=on&hid_chiron=1&hid_chiron_check=on&hid_lilith=1&hid_lilith_check=on&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&tolerance_paral=1.2

AnT said…
@JennS,

For your investigations:

Tom Bradby: Smooth operator
Successful author, associate of the royal family, dashing denizen of Westminster. Few media figures can match the lustre of ITV's political editor, Tom Bradby. But how much of an Establishment figure is he really? Ian Burrell finds out

Monday, 12 March 2007

Tom Bradby seems almost too good to be true. With his square jaw and fine head of hair, the political editor of ITV stands on College Green, outside Parliament, delivering his pieces to camera with diction that comes courtesy of Sherborne public school.

His CV (with stints covering Ireland, Asia, the royals and Westminster) is the stuff of any media student's dreams; when he is not making television news he is writing critically acclaimed novels, funded by a hefty advance from an American publisher.

Having just turned 40, he has friends in high places, being the most trusted media confidant of Princes William and Harry. Then at the end of the week, Bradby heads off to domestic bliss in rural Hampshire. His living room opens out on to a swimming pool; his three young children excel at sports and his wife, who has her own jewellery design business, joins him in critiquing the plot for his next thriller. He even gets a three-day weekend.

There aren't even any dark corners in Bradby's political past. "You can look through my background with a fine-tooth comb and never find anything overtly political that I have done because I have never done anything overtly political; that is because I am not interested in politics in that way." Contrast that with BBC political editor Nick Robinson, Bradby's predecessor and for the past 18 months his chief rival, who even now gets teased over his student politics as a Young Conservative.

Bradby admits that it is quite unusual for a political journalist "not to have a coherent set of political views" but, as he tries to bring a fresh approach to the reporting of Westminster, he is determined to "remain a completely unreadable book".

Then, after an hour of talking, sitting in the temporarily unoccupied office of the ITN chief executive Mark Wood, Bradby the prolific author discloses what could amount to some of the most personal chapters of his own memoirs, should he ever choose to write them.

Far from being the flawless figure he appears on screen, he acknowledges that his dream of working as a foreign correspondent took him on a journey that left him struggling in what he terms a "psychological morass".

He is also still troubled by the recollection that he allowed one of the biggest scoops of his career to slip through his fingers. And having been drawn into one of the most high-profile media trials of modern times, he feels "very uncomfortable" that Clive Goodman of the News of the World was jailed for intercepting royal phone messages, (including one that concerned Bradby's friendship with Prince William), even though he was angered by the intrusion.

Bradby is a straight talker, a quality that has won him the admiration of the management at a revitalised ITV News, just as it enamoured him to the staff at Buckingham Palace and to William and Harry. He is now working his charm in and around the Palace of Westminster. "I spend an exhaustive amount of time developing contacts - lunch, dinner, breakfast, drinks, coffee - trying to build relationships."

READ MORE:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110824223553/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tom-bradby-smooth-operator-439839.html

JennS said…
@AnT
LOL at legless horse!!!!!
I think in Bradby's case he may be added to the group of middle-aged to older men who seem to have succumbed to MM's 'charms' along with Welby, Warby, and Prince Charles.
For Omid I would guess it's all about his ties to Markus?
And Ship is perhaps afraid of the squad?🤣🤣🤣
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

ah -- okay, for 10 AM, try this one -- they are the preferred astro source for those I know who are very into astrology....

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Philip,_Prince_(Duke_of_Edinburgh)
JennS said…
Ohhhh how interesting Ant! Thank you!😁
I read earlier today that he wasn't too pleased when he ended up on the royal family beat.
He may just not be a fan of the monarchy and thus sided with the pair that wanted out.
And easily fell for all their stories!
Girl with a Hat said…
I was curious about how Lainey Lui, Meghan's gossip monger pal, would report Philip's death.

She didn't really address the issue but chose to discuss the comparison of the tributes written by William and Harry, instead. Of course she preferred Harry's.

But, the reason I am bringing this up was that prior to Philip's passing, she wrote about how William broke any links to Bradby and said that this was an example of poor decision making on William's part. I was surprised to see her give this small story so much importance.

Now, I think that Bradby is a Meghan operative. There's no question about it if Lui is harping on about it.
Ralph L said…
I suppose he spoke English, Greek, German, Danish, and French but I'm not sure.

I read English, German, and French somewhere. I wouldn't think they spoke much Greek or Danish when he was growing up.
His mother must have learned to lipread Greek as an adult.

I learned recently that many of the later Romanovs (and Vladimir Nabokov) spoke English as their first language because they had English nannies.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Ohhhh you might be right about Bradby. He seems.....eager, dull, and oily? So might be quite charged up by her doe-eyed but meaningful looks and deep-tissue arm stroking. I was absolutely startled to find he is an ITV news presenter as he seemed like the flaccid easily-led beginner or small market type in the ghastly "No one asks if I'm okay" interview. Seriously shocked that he's actually got an extensive background. War zones, high-value publishing, even politics -- but Miss Suitcase Squarepants led him by the nose into a disaster. Or, by another appendage as you suggest!

Omid, check, yes, little creepy wannabe on the Markus love team. Ship is of course a longtime weasel and I agree, nightmares about the little squad claws probably terrify Shippy. So he ran with his lunch tray to Megs' table.
AnT said…
@GIrl with a Hat,

EXCELLENT scoop re Lainey's take on the WIlliam-Bradby split. Okay, that makes me think as you do --- that Bradby is on the Megs payroll in some way. I do think she is paying some of these sycophants with promises: "I'll get you a Netflix contract too, you'll write and direct programs for Archewell" etc. If Lui is all over it, I think the word "operative" is very well chosen!
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AnT said…
@JennS,

Per your comment, here's a bit on Bradby from that article that may answer your question:


When he came back to London, Bradby was "quite sort of disillusioned and pissed off, frankly". For the first time, he considered leaving ITN.

The offer of a new role as royal correspondent was not one that immediately appealed to him. "If you have started out in life wanting to be a foreign correspondent and hang out of helicopters and then maybe one day end up as political editor, being given the royal beat didn't immediately strike me as something that I'd wanted to do." That all changed when he started to mix with royal contacts and was told secrets that had "your jaw slamming against the table". "I got really interested in the Royal Family, which I never thought I would - the whole constitutional position they are in, the way that people respond to them and what it reveals about us as a society. It was all quite compelling. It's such a unique position."

Bradby managed to find a tone that appealed to the royals, injecting humour into his coverage and showing an appreciation of their position while avoiding obsequiousness. "The one thing the Royal Family can't abide is sycophancy. They detest it. One or two of them are quite conscious of their position, but toadying they can't stand. They are perfectly willing up to a point to accept you being quite robust on air."

Though he criticised the Windsors over such matters as the Paul Burrell trial and Harry's Afrika Korps fancy dress uniform, he worked his contacts - he and the princes have mutual friends - to pull off a coup that was the envy of the rest of the royal media pack. For 10 days in 2004, Bradby was allowed to accompany Harry on his gap year project in Lesotho, where he was helping children who had lost parents to Aids.

"It was perceived as some great PR inspiration and I can't tell you how far that was from the truth. I'm not saying it didn't end up being great PR for them - of course it did - but it wasn't some great plan on their part. It was something I drove through with this mate of his who thought it would be a good idea."

Since the making of that documentary, Bradby - who had previously lunched with William and built a relationship with him - has been seen as the journalist closest to the princes. He is humble enough to emphasise that "I don't hang out with them", though he stills sees them occasionally in a social context.

It was one such casual connection - a suggestion that Bradby could lend William some broadcasting equipment - that sparked the police investigation of the interception of royal voicemail messages, leading to Clive Goodman of the News of the World being sentenced to four months in jail. <<<< THIS ALSO MAKES ME GO HMMMMMMMMM!!!]

----

So who's this "mate" of Harry's who thought the appalling whining Africa interview show would be a good idea? You know what I think....
AnT said…


@JennS,

also. --- notice the bit (bolded here by me) about:


The offer of a new role as royal correspondent was not one that immediately appealed to him. "If you have started out in life wanting to be a foreign correspondent and hang out of helicopters and then maybe one day end up as political editor, being given the royal beat didn't immediately strike me as something that I'd wanted to do." That all changed when he started to mix with royal contacts and was told secrets that had "your jaw slamming against the table".. "I got really interested in the Royal Family, which I never thought I would - the whole constitutional position they are in, the way that people respond to them and what it reveals about us as a society. It was all quite compelling. It's such a unique position."


....I cannot help but feel there is something as fishy about Bradby, as there is about Markus, as there is about A o C, as there is about MM at this point.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Princess Anne shut Ship down

(happened just the other day! Anne knows what he is, I suppose!)


https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1421279/Princess-Anne-question-Prince-Philip-remarks-ITV-Chris-Ship-video


"Following the announcement of Prince Philip’s death, ITV has reflected on the Duke of Edinburgh’s life and the legacy he leaves behind. Since the news, several clips of archive footage of the Prince or of those who knew him have been aired to pay tribute to the Duke. However, in one brilliant clip, Princess Anne shut down ITV News Royal Editor Chris Ship as he questioned her on father’s remarks.

Publicist Rob Cooper shared the clip on Twitter and wrote: “The way Princess Anne handles this question about Prince Philip by @chrisshipitv is brilliant.”

“Is it possible to do an interview about your father without touching on some of the criticism he received for some of his off the cuff remarks?

“Often criticised unfairly if you look at the context in which they were made.

“But nevertheless if you were to talk to anyone about your father they would say, ‘Oh yes, he’s sometimes very direct in his speech.’”

Princess Anne replied: “You might do if that’s on the basis you assume that everybody’s read the same newspapers and seen the same headlines and assumed they were true.”

“Yes,” Chris replied before Anne remarked: “Moving on?”

“Yes,” the ITV News Royal Editor agreed sheepishly.

Chris shared the clip on his own Twitter page as he praised Princess Anne for manoeuvring past his question.
Snarkyatherbest said…

My theory on Ship is he wants off the royal beat. He is fairly snarky on Twitter especially when prince archie was born and just seemed like he was too good for doing baby watches
Curiously said…
The more MM opens her mouth the more support she's losing.

Here's a snippet from a news.com.au story today

After the story aired on Channel 7’s Sunrise, host Edwina Bartholomew told viewers: “that just really gets my goat.”

I’ve reserved judgment about those two for quite some time, but if that is true, it just makes me so angry.

I still liked Harry and Meghan, I just, I just feel I’ve turned now.”

There is a video at the link:
‘Shut up’: Sunrise host blasts Meghan: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/sunrise-host-blasts-meghan-markle-over-reason-why-she-didnt-choose-to-attend-prince-phillips-funeral/news-story/b42c1099f3a1d7593308c6a8dcfd0059

Maybe I don't follow the right people but as the days go on from PPs death I'm seeing more comments in support of the RF and less for the Harkles.
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AnT said…
@JennS,

What a great idea to go check back through Oprah’s Instagram, and fascinating that people are still remarking on the interview and shaming her for it now that Philip is gone. Others made the connection too, between that cruel inflammatory interview and the affect it may have had on his demise. Those comments are passionate. Oprah is finally getting schooled by those who see she went too far, and performed in such a poor, biased manner.

I am so glad to see this, versus the idea people swallowed that Oprah show without question.

What’s more, the limited designation generally will mean only her approved followers can comment —- so those weren’t trolls.

Great sleuthing yet again.

JennS said…
Oprah does have another Instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/oprahdaily/
It is here that she has the posts - 5 of them - about Prince Philip. There are negative comments here too although not as many. People are accusing her of taking advantage of the RF after throwing them under the bus. She also has additional extended info about the RF that I can't get to as I'm not a member.
Ralph L said…
About Catherine making her cry
Meghan: I would have never wanted that to come out about her ever, even though it had happened. I protected that from ever being out in the world.

Yet she's telling about it now. Sounds like Mr. Wickham.
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO Markle is desperate, she wasn't invited to the funeral, Harry went. She is texting, calling, and emailing him constantly to control him. I hope Harry has the sense to turn off his phone, and not read his email for the duration of his visit to the UK.
JennS said…
@Ant
Good to know that those comments came from her followers...almost ALL of them were negative!
If you take a look at her second account you'll see she is profiting by reporting on PP's death and folks are calling her out on it. She also has a post up on Harry's Netflix show for Invictus. There are quite a few negative comments here too (a lot of more intelligent ones) spread out over all the PP and the Invictus posts. I'm sure there are more posts about the Sussexes going back further but I can only get to a certain point as a non-member.

Am I terrible for feeling some happiness over her getting grief from her followers? It's a relief to know that people see what we have seen and it just seems right that she gets called out in some way for this. Between the two insta accounts, I think I've seen her now get called out on just about everything we have said from the fostering of the narrative and lack of questioning the lies, to the racism/division and the unfairness to the RF.
Portcitylass said…
Lucy

I saw the US mag at the grocery checkout in NC. I always scan the checkout mags for jcmh and mm.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Oprah earned those negative comments the moment she uttered, “What? WHAT!” In her preplanned program of lies. Feel no guilt about enjoying them.
AnT said…

Hmm. Wish it might have been more like this (parody):


The Queen understands why pregnant Meghan Markle hasn’t flown in

Warming hearts with her unexpected appearance at a reception for the Earl Peel just days after the death of her beloved husband of 73 years, the recently widowed Queen paused in her hostessing duties to answer a question from a member of the press.

“No, no, Meghan won’t be with us this week,” said Her Majesty, a sad but gently radiant vision in a softly creamy ensemble. “No, we are not offended by her absence. Quite the opposite. One paid the salty little baggage to keep far away from One and One’s dear husband’s funeral. How much did We pay her? One paid her with this free advice: do not attempt to join us, or to reach One’s grandson Harry, or One will force your private jet out of the sky and then have your manky arse removed from Heathrow Arrivals in an unmarked van which shall transport you to an unpleasant patch dear Mr Putin has offered. Yes, that is how One paid her. And One is otherwise prepared to have special forces go in and bind her up with that dreadfully common wedding veil if One reads one more story about Frogmore. One has dogs at Frogmore, you see, great large lovely vicious police ones from One’s army, trained to target gingers and those who have no soul and plastic dolls. Harry? No. Harry is locked in his father’s basement, re ocr ring from his dog bites, where one is having him write a full confession with a chicken bone dipped in bronzer. So you see, One quite understands why Meghan Markle won’t be flying in this week. Pardon? Ah no, One’s dear beloved late strength-and-stay most certainly did not like Meghan. In fact, my darling Philip said five minutes with Miss Harborhussy FreePants 1994 — that was his little nickname for her you see, after we saw the files — was like ten years in a gulag, and that she was all the proof we needed to know both poor Harry needs to be removed and committed. But, One thanks her for her service.”

/s
jessica said…
Oprah is shilling for the duo on Instagram? Really?

Eyeroll
JennS said…
@AnT
Thanks so much for pasting the Tom article!💓
Yes, he does have much more of a life behind him than one might initially think - may be in part because he looks younger than he actually is! I believe he is in his 50's.

Hmmmm now I wonder what secrets he was told that made his jaw drop and who his sources were???
It could be that TB is losing interest in the royals now considering he wasn't too keen to start off. It's a shame and even more disappointing that he maligned the monarchy when he seemed to have such an understanding of their roles at one point in his career.
I will let you know when I get the article he wrote posted in my blog - it is NOT nice and very "Harklized".

I had originally thought when they did that interview in SA that TB was more or less humoring them with their whining. He in fact seems to have believed every word.
......................

💓I also love the Princess Anne and SHIP story!!! I'll check it out on his twitter.
JennS said…
Ralph L said...
Maybe why MM didn't leave home:
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2021/04/13/coronavirus-vaccine-facial-filler-mild-reaction-swelling/2211618264660/
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@Ralph L
Great find! How funny when thinking of our vain Markle! She has so much filler in her face and lips I wonder if she will ever be able to get vaccinated!!! I can just imagine her face and mouth swelling up....LOL!
JennS said…
AnT!!!
Love your Queen parody!!
Markle in a Putin patch!! Love the dogs who target those with plastic dolls! Harry will be in need of a straightjacket!
AnT said…
@JennS,
When I first saw the TB interview with M&H, I thought he was some unemployed ex army pal of Harry’s, since he seemed foolish, unprofessional and let her ramble that way in a place when so many have truly suffered. Then I read he was a journalist and watched again and assumed,as I said earlier, that he was a rank beginner, an amateur with a tiny “news” website or similar. It wasn’t his youthful look. I thought he was about his age, perhaps trying to start a second or third career and being cajoled to play the role by buddy Harry. So his extensive background astounded me. He had to have chosen to play dumb for the Harkle tour goals,
AnT said…
@JennS,
Lol! Couldn’t resist. Harry in a straitjacket indeed, something to replace his lost uniforms, eh?

@Ralph L,
It would be so funny if that was the cause and her face puffs didn’t decrease for months. Back to photoshopped mum and baby pictures!
JennS said…
AnT
Your observations about TB in that interview are very interesting...to be honest I never watched the whole thing. I only saw pieces of it - the part with her whining about no one asking if she was ok and some of Harry's moaning and groaning. I did not get much of a look at him other than to think he seemed a bit of a milquetoast. I did however get the impression that he was not into the royal beat. How surprising that he apparently brought up the viewing numbers in his news program! I wonder how one can be a good reporter if one believes everything someone tells them - because he has absolutely bought Markle's whole package of lies.

I have some other info to report but have been holding off as the topic is for Philip. Maybe later in the week I can post it.

Off to my bed now. Will look for you tomorrow and have Tom's Times article for you to read.
😴😴😴
Ava C said…
I haven't entirely caught up yet, but two points to make.

1) Why should the scales fall from Harry's eyes just because he has a couple of days to read the news coverage of his wife? He has, for a certainty, already seen multiple examples, first hand, of far worse from his wife than has ever been reported. Yet he has stood by her, as she tore other people apart. Including someone known to have been the Queen's right-hand for years - Angela Kelly.

2) I'm not convinced about Catherine as peacemaker. Cast your mind back to that ceremony at the Cenotaph when William couldn't get away from Harry fast enough. Camilla, next to Catherine on the balcony, gave what was almost a nervous giggle and looked conspiratorially at Catherine (a rare mistep for Camilla). While Catherine was the epitome of steeliness. She stood there, ramrod straight. A Queen Mary for the 21st century. You knew she was 100% behind William. She was entirely focused on him. He was acting ruthlessly as he is our future King and she is our future Queen. They were one.

I increasingly think there will be no true resolution to this mess until William is in charge. Of course it's entirely possible the Sussexes will have imploded by then. Judging by Meghan's PR this week, she won't even last until King Charles III.
Ava C said…
I always find the Guardian's Marina Hyde funny, and I read today:

"People are far more performative online in accordance with their consciousness of being watched. My colleague Jonathan Freedland made me laugh recently when he noted how Twitter had turned everyone into the archbishop of Canterbury, somehow feeling that every major news story requires them to issue an official statement."

She's making an uncomfortably accurate point but it's interesting that the AoC is the example used. According to Wiki "Welby is the 105th in a line which goes back more than 1400 years to Augustine of Canterbury, the 'Apostle to the English', sent from Rome in the year 597."

So we've gone from "Apostle to the English" nearly 1,500 years ago to "Californian-Style Rent-A-Quote".
JennS said, I think Bradby has already chosen sides and attached himself to the Sussexes - see my other posts. He seems unafraid to speak very negatively about the monarchy....

I never said I believe Bradby was on the Monarchy’s side, he’s a truly a very nasty piece (I said that further up thread) and he’s very much the Duo’s mouthpiece a king with others. His South African interview with them, said all we need to know about who’s side he’s firmly on. I just do not believe any new interview with them would go down well in Britain and this is why I think Bradby would be committing career suicide.....not necessarily now, but further down the line.
lucy said…
@PortCitylass

Thank you for reply, I thought it was online somewhere


😔


https://64.media.tumblr.com/073e4b109ed3d812b0c4890190ac2613/279e8d2bb2ed7f4d-69/s1280x1920/8ee55dcbf7a642d26115f58e8ea972bbfe7a5c18.png
I thought the latest Lady C video was very insightful. She said Philip of all the royals understood madness. She( paraphrasing) said the family know he’s Harry’s not well and that there have been some issues between Harry and Megan over some of the Oprah interview content, because they clearly weren’t on the same page (racism slur), and with other inconsistencies etc. With Harry being away from Megsy and now with his family, Lady C said the family and her are hopeful he’ll begin the slow progress of seeing the women he married for who she really is. She’s also hopeful they both seek help for their mental issues.

I’m not sure Megsy sees herself as mentally ill. Plus what Harry had done is unforgivable, because it was all done on the worlds stage. Some types of damage are beyond repair. :o/
Acquitaine said…
JennS: re Tom Bradby.

It's not so much that he's believing the Sussexes. More that he is seeking revenge for being cast out of the royal fold.

Tom made his career on the back of his close friendship with William. He was always rent-a-quote on all matters William despite having a career that wasn't royal reporting.

He used that friendship to gain more power within ITV.

Something happened that caused him to be cast out and it's more than the unfortunate SA documentary with the Sussexes.

The way he went about PR-ing for the Sussexes was malicious in the extreme and absolutely no caution in issuing threats to the royals - William - as if he has no idea that is head of state he was threatening.

It went beyond crossing a line and into treasonous territory which revealed personal anger and malice towards the royals.

Meghan can be excused for her Hollywood ignorance in thinking that this was ok, but Bradby has no such excuse given his professional background and knowledge.

He lost serious his credibility when he did that and no one in the establishment will trust him again. Only the morons at ITV who let him continue to throw his weight around in the mistaken idea that his caping for the Harkles means he still has the royal connection. Or perhaps they hope he'll deliver dirt via the disgruntled Sussexes.

Also, when he was doing that, UK journalists (not RRs) were having a field day on twitter because they thought he'd lost his mind and or wondered why he was throwing away his career for the Sussexes.

Bradby was revealed as using his influence to remove Piers Morgan from GMB. That influence was largely connected to his royal friendships and the Sussexes.

The morons at ITV aren't good at reading the room as far as his behaviour during Megxit or perhaps they thought it was a storm in a teacup and wasn't indicative of the state of his friendship with the other royals or he lied to them about it.

Either way, William revealed the broken friendship to make it clear that Bradby doesn't speak for him or the royals and isn't a friend anymore.

The taking Sussexes' sides excuse was exactly that. An very convenient excuse all round.

No one blithely throws away their hard fought career to threaten the head of state and the future head of state in favour of the inconsequential, no power 6th in line who will eventually fade away unless something major went down to provoke that level of required revenge.

Bradby is using the Sussexes to hit back at William which is very convenient for him.

The question is whether his power at ITV holds now they know he is out of the circle and has no more influence.
Ava C said…
Surely the backlash against Oprah will build and build. And you never know, Americans may learn a little more about the monarchy, reading about Prince Philip, to expose Meghan's lies which were already obvious to the British people.

I would say Netflix must be increasingly nervous but none of us here think they'll have paid in advance. I expect they can call a halt whenever they want. Invictus isn't going to set the world on fire. It will only leave a sour taste in people's mouths ...
@ Acquitaine,

I wholeheartedly agree with your comment regarding the nasty weasel Bradby. A fabulous summary.
So many typos this morning! Apologies! :o/
What if The Queen invited Thomas Markle to Prince Philip's funeral? Can you imagine the self-implosion at Mudslide Manor! Whoosh! Up in flames!
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

Prince Philip didn't speak Greek as he left Greece when he was still a baby. He spoke English, French and German.
Magatha Mistie said…

Bowled Out for 99

Philip had a bloody good innings,
despite a few sticky wickets
A deft spin bowler
He bowled his maiden over
His allegiance, and humour, was legendary
Run out, just short of his century
He’s left us all stumped, Just Crickets

Mel said…
Prince Philip didn't speak Greek as he left Greece when he was still a baby. He spoke English, French and German.
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So he would have known right off that madam couldn't speak French. Haha.
Miggy said…
I'm amazed at how much I didn't know about the 'real' Prince Philip and the many wonderful things he did.

This story, posted by a reader of Norman Tebbit's autobiography shows what a thoughtful man he was.

Brought a lump to my throat!

https://twitter.com/Remisagoodboy/status/1382166637458100233/photo/1
Miggy said…
@Acquitaine - great post!

Tom made his career on the back of his close friendship with William. He was always rent-a-quote on all matters William despite having a career that wasn't royal reporting.

Didn't he meet William due to the fact that his wife Claudia worked with Catherine at Jigsaw?

Claudia is a jewellery designer with clients within the RF, so I wonder if her husband's treachery will now start to affect her business too?

Sorry to be nasty... but I hope they are both now Markled!

Magatha Mistie said…

@Ava C
Yes, I remember that balcony scene.
Kate exhibiting the ‘Queen Mary’
steely backbone. Catherine and William
make a formidable team.

@Jocelyn
Let’s add Samantha to the pot!

@Aquitaine
I didn’t realise Bradby used his influence
to get Piers Morgan removed.
Quite the revengeful weasel, going after
William, and Piers.
His fall should be epic.









Magatha Mistie said…

@Miggy
Claudia looks beautiful, and much taller than
Tom, small man syndrome?
He has sneaky eyes, an overlarge forehead,
and a weak chin.
Another chinless wonder, matches Haz.
Acquitaine said…
@Miggy: Boy did Tom Bradby remind everyone that his wife Claudia was a close personal friend of Kate from their Jigsaw days.

Really promoted that idea as if it was his doing and therefore reflected well on him.
Miggy said…
@Magatha,

Yes, she towers over him. I wonder what attracted her to him?

He's always struck me as smarmy and I agree his eyes are sneaky looking! I switch the TV over if his face appears.

*Ponders*

Maybe he has large feet? 😜
Acquitaine said…
@Mel said…
"Prince Philip didn't speak Greek as he left Greece when he was still a baby. He spoke English, French and German.
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So he would have known right off that madam couldn't speak French. Haha."

Ditto The Queen and i suspect all the same generation royals as they speak fluent French.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Miggy
Hahaha 🦶 Megs has large feet also,
bigger than Harry’s? 😉
Would explain much!!
@ Acqutaine said, Something happened that caused him to be cast out and it's more than the unfortunate SA documentary with the Sussexes.

I wonder what happened that caused Bradby to be cast aside by William etc? To think Tom slithered up William’s leg to befriend him, then stabbed him in the back, Tom obviously uses people to gain advantage...a trait he has in common with Megsy.

@Miggy

I turn over when I see smarmy Tom’s face as well. He has such a stern and hard look about him.
In today's Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9468143/BBC-diversity-chief-says-Idris-Elbas-TV-detective-Luther-isnt-black-real.html#newcomment

One rule for BBC actors, another for a cable network actress...
Ava C said…
I expect William always preserved that distance with Tom Bradby that he would with any member of the press - or indeed anyone not in his immediate family - whereas Harry has no boundaries.

Perhaps the chance to get closer to a royal than ever before made Tom Bradby jettison every atom of common-sense he possessed. Not only did he give up his career for the sixth-in-line but soon that royal and his worthless spouse would be sharing literally everything with literally everyone.
JennS said…
@Aquitaine

Did you read any of the extensive posts @AnT and I as well as several other Nutties left re Tom Bradby? They go back well into the previous page. We researched him and already covered everything in your post including the fact that he may have been involved in Piers' ITV removal. The only thing I learned from you is that TB may have a more serious desire for revenge than I realized. I apologize if this sounds abrupt but I have been given a hard time over a Bradby discussion twice over the last 2 days. And it's really rather frustrating to spend a couple of hours researching and posting information along with fellow Nutties only to have someone else turn around and lecture us with the same info.
SwampWoman said…
@AnT: It is 6 a.m., I just sat down with my first cup of coffee in order to prepare myself for young Mr. 4-year-old grandson's arrival, and immediately snorted it all over my desk. I blame you and Miss Harborhussy FreePants 1994!

If *any* grandchild of mine acted this badly while MDH was dying, there would be no forgiveness and no forgetting. I don't believe in letting venomous snakes wander freely through the premises.

Do the rest of y'all get the feeling that this is all deliberate distraction? That the media are putting on the front page things (like the Harry and Meghan saga) that don't matter while doing a throw-away paragraph about things that do?

Well, youngest grandson came in, hugged me, and told me that he loved me and he came back today just like he promised (grin). He also informed me that his tummy had NO PANCAKES, so I've received my morning orders.
JennS said…
Raspberry Ruffle said...
JennS said, I think Bradby has already chosen sides and attached himself to the Sussexes - see my other posts. He seems unafraid to speak very negatively about the monarchy....

I never said I believe Bradby was on the Monarchy’s side, he’s a truly a very nasty piece (I said that further up thread) and he’s very much the Duo’s mouthpiece a king with others. His South African interview with them, said all we need to know about who’s side he’s firmly on. I just do not believe any new interview with them would go down well in Britain and this is why I think Bradby would be committing career suicide.....not necessarily now, but further down the line.

Raspberry Ruffle said...
@ Acquitaine,
I wholeheartedly agree with your comment regarding the nasty weasel Bradby. A fabulous summary.
....................

I did not say you thought he was on the monarchy's side. What I was and am saying is that he was capable of that rumor and if you agree with Acquitaine's info which is the same as what Ant and I uncovered, then you should not have been so quick to call the first Bradby intel I brought here fake news.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1420396/kate-middleton-news-waity-katie-tom-bradby-prince-william-meghan-harry-spt

Do I smell a frantic attempt at mending fences here? Bradby doesn't seem to have done much hitherto to correct M's perception of Catherine getting an easy ride.
Acquitaine said…
@JennS said…
@Aquitaine

"Did you read any of the extensive posts @AnT and I as well as several other Nutties left re Tom Bradby?"

No. Haven't logged onto the blog for afew days. Only read the last page this morning. Sorry you feel lectured, but the comments i was responding to were trying to figure out other reasons for his behaviour and i responded to that.

It's no deeper than that.
Acquitaine said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
"https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1420396/kate-middleton-news-waity-katie-tom-bradby-prince-william-meghan-harry-spt

Do I smell a frantic attempt at mending fences here? Bradby doesn't seem to have done much hitherto to correct M's perception of Catherine getting an easy ride."

I can never decide whether to take the express seriously in their reporting.

They seem to have good sources sometimes and at other times they are confusing. This article feels exactly that as it's a copy and paste of a DM article that they've simply added their own headline.

And it makes both of them, Tom and Megsy, look bad for that 'waity Katie' jibe in the interview followed by removing Piers for objecting to the interview that included that jibe.

Perhaps it's the express doing filler royal news in the same way that they spent every day since Diana's death including an article about her to their content.

I'm confused by the intent of this article regardless of content.

xxxxx said…
Tom BradVoid. As in now null and void to Prince Willian. Lesson here is don't play at suck up to the Montecito Mountebanks, the rebels without a clue. As the countdown to Prince Philip's Saturday services continues. With Hapless/Megsy will we see an explosion or an implosion?
JennS said…
Ava C said...
Surely the backlash against Oprah will build and build. And you never know, Americans may learn a little more about the monarchy, reading about Prince Philip, to expose Meghan's lies which were already obvious to the British people.
.....................
@Ava C

I'm assuming you're referring to my posts that uncovered the feedback Oprah has received for the interview on her Instagram account.
It seems to me there was already some anger towards her over the interview but when PP passed away it took it to another level and I think O will be permanently stained by this. She and Gayle and the Harkles are going to forever be associated with bringing terrible stress and grief upon the RF while PP was lying ill in the hospital followed by his death shortly afterwards.
I also have some research that I will post later today on the negative feedback Gayle King is receiving.
It's just occurred to me that I now believe I understand why the Harkles have not started a new Instagram account. They would be flooded with negative comments!
Acquitaine said…
@Raspberry Ruffle said...


"I wonder what happened that caused Bradby to be cast aside by William etc? To think Tom slithered up William’s leg to befriend him, then stabbed him in the back, Tom obviously uses people to gain advantage...a trait he has in common with Megsy."

Users united!!

We see the transactional nature of this trait in Megsy very clearly, but it's something Tom has in abundance too.

I've always found him too smarmy and oily to watch.

I think David Cameron has a similar quality.
Magatha Mistie said…

Disbarred Desperado

Do we really believe
That the Queen would receive
Meghan and her unholy rort
As she farewells, Saturday
Her Prince, her mainstay
I doubt she’s given maggot much thought
Maneki Neko said…
@AvaC

I expect William always preserved that distance with Tom Bradby that he would with any member of the press - or indeed anyone not in his immediate family - whereas Harry has no boundaries.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Exactly. William is circumspect when dealing with the press, and with good reason. He also knows he's not just anybody, he is mindful of his position hence the need to be careful. Harry has no such reservations. Maybe he wants some interviewers to be his friends. It doesn't work that way.
Acquitaine said…
@Miggy: i love all these Philip anecdotes coming out.

No wonder Megsy's PR is now trying to attach her to Philip and that imaginary special bond she now insists they had.

Wasn't so special when she was claiming that the Palace was using his health to muzzle her and her Oprah interview.


JennS said…
@Acquitaine
I hope you have the opportunity to catch up on the pages you have missed.
Tom Bradby came up in our conversation due to a rumor I brought here from LSA that the Sussexes had booked him for an interview. First I was accused of planting a false story here on this blog and then I was subjected to a post that insinuated I fell for fake news. I think the Sussexes teaming up with Bradby once again has potential, and I will keep my eye open for any more news about TB and the vile pair.
Ava C said…
@JennS - I think O will be permanently stained by this. She and Gayle and the Harkles are going to forever be associated with bringing terrible stress and grief upon the RF while PP was lying ill in the hospital followed by his death shortly afterwards.I

Yes I was referring to your post - very interesting thanks JennS. You would think Oprah and Gayle would have seen this backlash coming. I wonder if the Sussexes led them to believe that Prince Philip (aged 99!) was in better health than he in fact was? Sadly, it is more likely that they just didn't care either way.

A mistake surely. People of every race relate to caring for your family and showing respect for your elders. Oprah and Gayle knew how shabbily and cruelly Meghan had treated her own family. It was out there for the world to see. Now they have aided and abetted her while she did the same to the family to took her in and gave her unparalleled privileges and opportunities. A family headed by two people in their nineties with more than two lifetimes of true service behind them. The next time Oprah and Gayle take the moral high ground I hope their audiences will remember this.
Is this an insight into the BBC's coverage? Why I felt it failed for me -

As an example - I often use Radio4 Extra as something to go to sleep by - fairly unchallenging most of the time. Instead of replacing programmes containing humour or other inappropriate material, it was easier/quicker/cheaper(?) to broadcast Radio 4 on that wavelength instead, an endless loop of Prince Philip material.

They hadn't bothered to have prepare an emergency schedule, of say appropriate music or poetry perhaps, with occasional news bulletins perhaps. They were already being criticised for their future plans for TV which may focus on youngsters - `tough luck if you're not into Radio 1 or BBC3 - you've lived too long already' seems to be the attitude.

I'll listen or watch all night to follow genuine breaking news (Lockerbie & Pan Am Flight 103, in 1989) or Elections/Referenda until the results are clear, but not to hear/watch the same reports over and over again.
SwampWoman said…
I was hitherto unaware of Bradby's existence until that execrable interview from Africa about how badly the freeloaders were treated while they were supposed to be doing a goodwill tour of Africa. (I do not think that they know the meaning of that term.)

As a disinterested (well, okay, maybe not completely) observer, I do believe that the UK owes Bradby a vote of thanks for exposing the Harry and Meghan sh*tshow for who and what they are.

Now, I shall quietly back out of the room and get on with the day.
Magatha Mistie said…

Fair Winds and Following Seas

I didn’t realise I’d feel
So much sorrow, it’s real
For a man that I’d never met
He’s been part of my life
Along with his wife
Something that many don’t get

Acquitaine said…
"JennS said…
"@Acquitaine
I hope you have the opportunity to catch up on the pages you have missed.
Tom Bradby came up in our conversation due to a rumor I brought here from LSA that the Sussexes had booked him for an interview. First I was accused of planting a false story here on this blog and then I was subjected to a post that insinuated I fell for fake news. I think the Sussexes teaming up with Bradby once again has potential, and I will keep my eye open for any more news about TB and the vile pair."

Goodness me!!

I'd be inclined to think that was fake news because who could be that idiotic even if the media are reaching out for interviews, and they are.

However, this is Meghan and Harry we are discussing.

They had no shame giving an interview whilst knowing he was on his deathbed.

And when the media pointed out the poor timing, their response was that it was a palace plot to muzzle them.

So....as unlikely as that rumour sounds, it will come as no surprise if it turns out to be true regardless of the media company that gets the interview.

These two have no bottom.
xxxxx said…
JennS said...
I hope you have the opportunity to catch up on the pages you have missed.
Tom Bradby came up in our conversation due to a rumor I brought here from LSA that the Sussexes had booked him for an interview. First I was accused of planting a false story here on this blog and then I was subjected to a post that insinuated I fell for fake news. I think the Sussexes teaming up with Bradby once again has potential.


I think Bradby, Sussexs and (you think he is all yours) Hot Rob is a better team up.
The music your hear in the background is oldie, "You Don't Own Me" (Lesley Gore)
KCM1212 said…
@Miggy

Oh, I loved that Prince Philip story! What a generous man!

@JennS

Great sleuthing on the Oprah tea! I am so happy she is finally getting slammed. This is her "Geraldo" moment.

And Bradby is slime. He keeps issuing low-level threats with tell all interviews. Bring it if you got it. No wonder W cut him loose. Another sign of wisdom.

Were you looking for that story of MM pretending to be her own PA and losing her mind over a photo shoot? Its at the link Miggy gave us for a PP story.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Remisagoodboy/status/1252701837397983233

and Swampwoman...your grandson kills me! What a doll he is!
Midge said…
@Magatha Mistie
Your poem perfectly captured what so many of us are feeling - thank you for that!
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