I'm very sorry to hear about the passing of Prince Philip, just a few months before his 100th birthday.
He was an outspoken man who was always one of my favorite Royals.
Here's a space to discuss his passing, as well as any implications it will have for other ongoing Royal events, such as the Sussex saga.
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Pretending not to be loaded with Malice...
Over to you, Magatha!
`They're changing the codes at Kensington Palace...
Anything to deny her access...'
The weather is so delightful (in old Blighty)
Nothing at all frightful
It is snowing in Windsor in honor of
The return of the Prodigal Son
As he returns home to face the Royal music
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Windsor, England, United Kingdom
Updated a few minutes ago
34°F
Precipitation: 30%
Wind: 8 MPH
Humidity: 93%
Rain and snow showers Mon 12, 7:53 AM
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Snow in Windsor as Queen Elizabeth ponders 'huge void ...
https://news.trust.org/item/20210412050306-wgozj
44 minutes ago · WINDSOR, April 12 (Reuters) - A spring snow storm struck Windsor Castle on Monday where Queen Elizabeth pondered the huge void left by the death of …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUIZWyieAk
As we are still not allowed to mix indoors with someone from another household, funeral or not, there can be no 'reception' after the funeral (I went to a family funeral very recently). So the possibilities for interaction should be severely restricted.
I would pay big bucks to watch that. Piers is onto something.
But wait, if he has a direct line to Fergie ...come on piers spill. the. tea!!!!!!
I typically fly one way everywhere, as I find my booking separately to work out more flexible. I’ve had fun explaining that to customs at Gatwick more times than I can count :D. One time I ended up in what I call *Airport Jail*, you know that little contained plexi-glass area next to customs, where you’re on full display to others waiting in line. 😂. For whatever reason they had to interview my husband on the other side of the gate to verify his income. They didn’t believe I could afford to book a one way ticket back. I guess I looked an absolute state from my travels 😆. Quite funny thinking back on that. So silly.
1) PARK THE EGO. Philip's biographer and long-time friend, Gyles Brandreth, revealed: 'He said to me more than once: 'It's a big mistake to think about yourself. No one is interested in you in the long run. Don't court popularity. It doesn't last.
2) DON'T WHINE.
3) WORK HARD.
4) READ.
5) AVOID SCANDAL.
6) STAY OFF OPRAH. 'Give TV interviews, by all means,' Philip said. 'But don't talk about yourself.'
7) KEEP FIT AND DO EVERYTHING IN MODERATION.
8) STAY GROUNDED.
9) JUST GET ON WITH IT. Philip was a from a generation that believed in the power of resilience and the stiff upper lip.
10) DO YOUR BEST.
Wise advice that the duo could, and should should, have needed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9461707/PIERS-MORGAN-Park-ego-dont-whine-work-hard-JUST-IT.html
Snap! You posted as I was finishing copying & pasting ;)
I haven't been able to confirm the story about Harry booking an interview with Tom Bradby -
It does not exist. Someone upthread needs to verify their facts before posting (or perhaps the misinformation was deliberate?)
I’ll eat my words and apologize if it turns out to be true.
When I finished reading it just now, all I could think was ‘How are Meghan and Harry going to succeed at *anything* being so consistently *weak*.
Haha!
Yours has more detail, so I'll delete mine. :)
@SitStinxAlot, I live in hope! My only worry is although I can be patient, with everything going on right now they have the potential to cause so much more damage emotionally to Harry's family before that point.
@Ava C, it just makes me so mad and upset at everything as it's so unfair on HMTQ (and PP), I think I ranted a little when I got to the part about them but they're bringing out the worst in me right now. I don't often get angered to the point where I need to release it physically, but the last few days I've been tempted to go and trim the hedges whether it's snowing or not (my favourite stress relief is hunting the garden shears out, it's so satisfying to imagine that each sprig of hedge is whoever's got on my nerves enough to deserve it... lol).
Destabilising is the word I've been looking for to describe how I feel about the situation in general, thank you. I too have been worrying about how bad it will be (compared to right now) when HMTQ joins her beloved, but I couldn't find the words to express it when I was talking to hubby about it.
@Lucy, that was a lovely article, it brought a tear to my eye as well. My favourite reading spot when the weather's nice is sat on the front step in the sunshine with a blanket over my knee while the dog's in the garden. From now on every time I go and sit there with a book I'll remember that PP enjoyed spending that time outside in his last days.
Kind of OT but also kind of related:
I was thinking back to my daughter's funeral last autumn, my ex caused so much extra stress due to repeatedly phoning the funeral director and the crematorium to try and take over the arrangements behind my back despite the fact that he hadn't been bothered to attempt to visit her or even text her at Christmas for 5 years and hadn't offered to pay a penny towards any of the arrangements. It makes me wonder whether the Montecito Morons might have the arrogance to attempt that too. I don't think they'd get any further than my ex did (we'd already pre-warned any officials that he has history of this kind of thing so they were prepared for it) but I wouldn't put it past them to give it a try...
Oh and as for Harry's suit... Maybe he'll do what my ex did and rock up at the very last minute in dirty jeans and a tshirt. I don't think I've ever exercised as much self control as I did on that day!
I was reading it on Roya Nikkhah's page as you posted.
It's a wonderful tribute and puts Harry's to shame.
https://www.royal.uk/message-duke-cambridge-following-death-duke-edinburgh?fbclid=IwAR07H-v445n0LW7kU3mpFX_bHg4RtAiGCXK9jAkQVUBk-_i00RqHqJBjwIE
Beautiful and personal and moving.
H&M are probably losing it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1422066/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Philip-tribute-Archie-Harrison-news-Duke-Duchess-Sussex
That's the kind of thing I was imagining that pair might try, trying to pull rank to alter who can attend.
How did these statements get released in tandem?!
I checked the time the statements were posted on The Express’ website. Williams was first and then Harry’s about 30 mins later. I also thought Williams was having a dig at the Harkles. 🤭
"I think Harry only flies private when Meghan is with him. Meghan will only fly private since she married Harry. She is much too royal for The Royals, snigger."
The Queen said as much about Princess Michael after being told about her grand lineage which the Princess leads with.
Amazing that they, PssMichael and Meghan, didn't become fast friends or frenemies to outdo each other on who could be more snooty.
Going gack to your PJ comment, another story made the rounds, but isn't gaining as much traction as the PJ one. It involves Harry's office staff and an established tradition of informal meetings at the beginning of wach work day in where Harry happily made the teas and coffees.
Allegedly after Meghan joined the household, she insisted on hiring a butler to make the teas and coffees at these meetings.
Yours has more detail, so I'll delete mine. :)
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No need, Miggy.
@Hikari; Always enjoy your commentary. The kidnap theory is a real hoot. Don't know if she would actually have the temerity to pull that on off. Out of curiosity I found the laws & punishment for fake kidnapping in California. I was shocked that the penalty is a misdemeanor charge with up to one year in a county jail & $1,000 fine. However, the offense also includes paying restitution to the law enforcement agency or agencies for manpower, wages and use of special equipment (helicopters, etc?) used in the search. Also, a minor child kidnapped, especially a young child, is cause for the FBI to investigate, even if the child was not taken over state lines. So, our Meggy would have a rather large payment for all the brouhaha she caused and the world would finally see that she is indeed a nutcase. So I say go ahead, Megs! Have at it. Just please wait until after the funeral, I just want to say thanks to all you lovely Nutties for your knowledge, wit and kindness you have bestowed upon us. I've learned so much and it is a pleasure to check in daily and mostly lurk. Stay safe from the dreaded Covid everyone!
I am sorry about your daughter, I had no idea. What was already a very painful time must have must been compounded by your ex's behaviour.
I hope the Harkles remember that silence is golden and that they (MM) don't pull any stunts.
I am so sorry to read about the loss of your daughter, and what your ex put you through at such a difficult time.
Oh, my dear. How terrible for you. And compounded by your ex. I'm so terribly sorry. {{hugs}}
"Huge mistake in their PR statement to say Harry claims Prince Philip was ‘cheeky right till the end’. Huge."
I'm so intrigued and missing something. Is that because H again spills intimate family details?
please tell me your thinking there.
I love it when they make huge mistakes.
i have been seeing all over LSA about an interview Harry/Tom Braby but i've also tried to confirm it and cannot find anything on it. someone on LSA asked for receipts but i've never seen them.
He is there for (1) his future whining documentary, and more grief crap for Oprah and BetterUp to peddle; and (2) to try to hustle money from the Queen or his father.
Everything I read about the brothers having a chance to “mend the rift” makes me laugh in scorn. William knows Harry is a fully consumed viper at this point. There will be ice, there will be scarfing. He has no idea.
My deepest condolences on the loss of your daughter.
I can't fathom that kind of loss, with the mess of a narc ex on top of it. Good for you to bite your tongue. I might have let the air out of his tires. Minimum. May his McDonald's orders always be wrong.
😊
That is an excellent curse.
Women who leave their abusive narc husbands know this all too well. This is when a lot of the murders of women occur.
All this to say, I wonder if the Oprah interview wasn't done BECAUSE they knew Philip was dying, rather than doing it DESPITE knowing Philip was dying.
It's all spoken in the way of a 10 year old making jokes with his mates. La la la, here we are, making jokes with each other. Hey! He said fart! Ha ha, aren't we funny?
He acts like they're equals, out on a lark.
PW's sounded like something a man would say who is honoring his superior. A sense of deference and respect. H's showed no respect.
PW's sounded like he had put some thought into it, into honoring his grandfather. H's sounded like he was running at the mouth.
PW sounded like a senior royal is expected to sound. And then there was H.
Photo of Harry arriving back in the UK yesterday.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210412110672/prince-harry-uk-return-prince-philip-funeral/
does Harry have his tail between his legs? disgusting POS
All this to say, I wonder if the Oprah interview wasn't done BECAUSE they knew Philip was dying, rather than doing it DESPITE knowing Philip was dying.
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Good insight. Possibly. I would put nothing past them.
Maybe they were told then that mm would not be invited to the funeral? And this was her narc revenge for that?
Another thought: based on the vast difference in the size of her bump between the black dress and the chicken coop outfit, my suspicion is that the black dress portion was filmed at least a month earlier, if not more.
The chicken coop portion was the add-on, after they knew PP was direly ill.
@Mel, you said it well. William's sounds mature, while Harry's sounds juvenile and slapdash. How would he know PP was "cheeky til the end"? He wasn't around for a whole year and couldn't be bothered to get on a plane to say goodbye. He waited until he was dead to show up. I'm sure the harpy had final say and posted it-it would be hard for him to do since he just got to London. She either wrote it, or he wrote it and sent it to her to post. I hope they keep H far away from other members of the family. Good thing it is warmer out so there's less chance of William strangling Harry on sight with his scarf. Harry needs to shut up and keep a low profile.
He's smugly grinning.
God - I despise him!!!
So sorry for your loss and the added stress caused by your ex. :(
in French, there's an expression for a face you want to slap or punch.
I think Harry's smug grin would qualify for that expression "face à claques"
yes, I am sorry for this horrible thing that happened to you and how a horrible human being couldn't allow you to grieve in peace.
Yes, of course!Thank you
I was offended by using the Latin motto of the Royal Marines.
He was trying to emphasize the comradery between Philip and himself, as well as between himself and the RM.
I am not sure there are many people less deserving of illustrating both connections.
Also saw that hello magazine has a pic of Harry arriving in I’m. Someone already did the search the pic was from a year ago. Seriously gonna have a lot of chaos and false flags all week.
My new speculation whatever Megs has planned big for herself will be made on Cambridge anniversary
Also. Pic of George and prince Philip. So adorable. I am sure Kate has a million of those. I want to see the private photo albums with the kids. Must be soooo cute.
Here's one of those:
https://images.app.goo.gl/zSPQkzXimK9CrF3n8
Don’t know if anyone saw. Twitter is debunking the hello magazine photo. Saying it’s well over a year old when Harry was visiting Lewis Hamilton
1. When my father died after a long difficult illness, my manager at the time turned up at the funeral, two hours from our office. He told me and a couple of my coworkers he was there because he felt we were just trying to get the day off, and proceeded to find my mother and demand she show him her ID to make sure this event with flowers, coffin, and 300 mourners, choir and priest “was real”. She was shocked and walked away in tears. My nimble cousin and her boyfriend, two university students with a funny streak, found out which car was his and had it towed by someone they knew. When I got back to work the following week, I burnt his ears off with what I had to say.
2. When my aunt died, her daughter suddenly appeared (after a ten year absence), tried to change the service arrangements made by her normal siblings, tried to access the great-aunt’s large bank account and jewelry collection, tried to hustle her grieving, sick father. Two male cousins intercepted her, removed swag, and bundled her back to the airport with a terse warning. She was also a spoiled whiner, like Harry.
3. When my best friend’s amazing mother died, one of her nephews, a young NYC businessman who never had time for his family, suddenly reappeared. He told guests like me how close they were, not knowing that we knew the truth. Later he confronted her children about why he should be given two of the nicest properties she owned, as if she didn’t have children or a formal will. They ignored him.
My point:
People like this exist, and do haunt funerals. I think in fact they absolutely love to come to funerals to cause drama when people are most vulnerable. I have no doubt Harry may reveal more of his ugliness to his family over the next week. I hope they totally ignore him.
Yes, you're both correct re the photo date.
The use of an old photo and “someone saw him at the airport” sound like more “Archie speaks French and I lunch with Mrs. Obama” fakery to me. Since the Harkles are all smoke and mirrors.....
Excellent catch.
I think Harry's smug grin would qualify for that expression "face à claques"
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Yes! Actually, that's one I reserve for MM every time I see her face (I can't bear to look at her or listen to her any more), "tête à gifles".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9462169/Friends-Meghan-say-stayed-doesnt-want-center-attention.html
EXCLUSIVE: Friends of Meghan Markle say the pregnant duchess remained in Montecito because she 'doesn't want to be the center of attention' at Prince Philip's funeral - but reveal she adored the duke and they had a 'special bond'
"Meghan Markle stayed back in Montecito, California, while Prince Harry flew to London because she 'doesn't want to be the center of attention' at Prince Philip's funeral, her friends claim.
Despite the pregnant Duchess declining to return to London with Harry to join his family in mourning for the late Duke of Edinburgh, friends say she and Prince Philip 'had a special bond and she adored him.'
'Meghan said her main concern right now is supporting Harry. She said she left it up to him as to whether or not she would attend the funeral,' an insider with close ties to Meghan Markle tells DailyMail.com.
'Meghan said it's during these times when family should come together, put their differences aside and unite as one. She said this is what Prince Philip would want and that she's willing to forgive and move forward,' they said.
While it's possible that Meghan could fly to the UK to join Harry before Saturday's funeral, the insider added that her mother Doria is 'adamant' that she not travel while pregnant.
'Doria insisted that Meghan stay behind and support Harry from afar. Like Harry, Doria is very protective of Meghan and doesn't want to see her putting her own health at risk. Stress is the last thing Meghan needs right now.'
The Susssexes are expecting their second child - a girl - this summer.
'Meghan said attending or not attending Prince Philip's funeral isn't going to change her relationship with the Queen. She said the Queen understands her absence and would want her to stay safe and healthy for the baby,' the friend said.
'Meghan said this is the opportune time for Henry to mend his relationship with his brother and his dad. She doesn't need to be there for that.'"
More at the link.
harry's choice if she were to attend the funeral
were these the five friends from people magazine?
wow someone is upset when she didnt make the 30 cut. Cue the anti-Tindall and anti cambridge pr because Mike and Kate made the cut and the monster of montecito didnt
Man, she's desperately scratching around like a cat trying to cover its #2.
LOLOL ;)
'Everybody tells sweet young mother me what to do all the time, I'm so clueless and innocent, like a small child wandering in a purity garden of kindness and compassion' 'harry and doria make all the decisions for me because I'm so delicate' 'oh and the queen and I are besties it's not me that has an issue with the BRF- it's Harry, it's always just him, I've just been an innocent victim of his internal rage avenging Diana, I have no participation in the take down of his family, they made Harry sad and if they don't make up with him on this trip we will seek revenge because we are the ultimate victims, FOREVVVVVER!'
-Meghan's thought pattern
She's gaslighting everyone and Harry right there in her article. She is looking absolutely crazy.
It's literally her only trick in the book. She will not let 'half in/half out' go.
She is so sick putting out gossip articles to make herself look good during Philips funeral. She obviously was not invited.
The BRF is going to be on high alert around Harry. This woman is deranged beyond measure.
"Meghan Markle stayed back in Montecito, California, while Prince Harry flew to London because she 'doesn't want to be the center of attention' at Prince Philip's funeral, her friends claim.
Herself has been BANNED from attendance and it totally seething about it, as she just knows that the eyes of the entire world would be on her and her sexy fake bump. The old, pale male and really stale dude in the coffin . . why would anybody care about HIM?
Despite the pregnant Duchess declining to return to London with Harry to join his family in mourning for the late Duke of Edinburgh, friends say she and Prince Philip 'had a special bond and she adored him.'
The Queen begged her to come, but Herself declined, because she is more powerful than the Queen of England. SHE decides, see? Totally not invited. Meg's encounters with 'The Duke' seem limited to his attendance at her wedding (under compulsion, whilst recovering from hip surgery at 96 years old. How painful do we suppose that would have been?) and what may have been an entirely fictitious 'run-in/photo op' at Windsor Castle once. But that's our Meggy for you--she forms instant special bonds with people she meets twice. She adored him so much, she went on international television to throw him under the bus as a chronic horrible racist while he was recovering from heart surgery in hospital, with weeks to live. That's our Meggy--compassionate as the day is long!
'Meghan said her main concern right now is supporting Harry. She said she left it up to him as to whether or not she would attend the funeral,' an insider with close ties to Meghan Markle tells DailyMail.com.
Well, which is it, Meggy? Did Herself decline or did she leave it up to Hubby to decide for her, being the pliant and docile 1950s style housewife that she is? Immaterial, as Her Majesty decided the matter for both of them.
'Meghan said it's during these times when family should come together, put their differences aside and unite as one. She said this is what Prince Philip would want and that she's willing to forgive and move forward,' they said.
So big of her. How does this woman transport her gigantic head without a hydraulic lift and how does she squeeze it through doors?
While it's possible that Meghan could fly to the UK to join Harry before Saturday's funeral, the insider added that her mother Doria is 'adamant' that she not travel while pregnant.
'Doria insisted that Meghan stay behind and support Harry from afar. Like Harry, Doria is very protective of Meghan and doesn't want to see her putting her own health at risk. Stress is the last thing Meghan needs right now.'
Oh, look--the elusive Dorito is hauled out of mothballs to portray a loving and protective mother. So, so far in this story, that's three people besides the Queen who dictated Meg's attendance in Windsor on Saturday: 1. Herself 2. No, it wasn't--it was Harry 3. Actually, Dorito put her petite foot down and said No. In addition to her social worker cred and her yoga credentials, Dorito must have got certified as an ob/Gyn/doula/midwife since we heard from her last. Which was never--Dorito NEVER has spoken a single word about her daughter to the presss, ever. She gets spoken FOR a lot, though.
The Susssexes are expecting their second child - a girl - this summer.
So they say.
'Meghan said attending or not attending Prince Philip's funeral isn't going to change her relationship with the Queen.
That is the only true statement in this article. Her Majesty has no relationship with MM and will continue to not have one.
She said the Queen understands her absence and would want her to stay safe and healthy for the baby,' the friend said.
Sure, Jan. MM is now capable of Royal mind-reading. Because having just lost her husband of 73 years, of course the Queen's foremost thought is of the comfort and security of Meg and her moon pillow in California.
'Meghan said this is the opportune time for Henry to mend his relationship with his brother and his dad. She doesn't need to be there for that.'"
True . . she's never around for any mending phase, only the 'destruction' phase. She is perhaps sweating bullets that Harry might not come home though, so I doubt highly that this is going to be her last word on the subject. We've still got most of a long week in front of us. I look for there to be a major crisis in Montecito by the weekend.
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Harry's been well-schooled by her. How in the HELL would he know that Philip (likely sedated in his last days) was cheeky to the end? As best as I can figure, he hasn't seen his granddad since "Archie was born". Heck, that may mean it's been even longer than that. Christmas 2018 possibly. That is the last family event at which both PP and the SHAMS would have been present.
She's a bit dim.
I agree with above, excellent curse!
As for Handbag, I wish for him a rash that won't go away . Annoying but not fatal.
But how does this mesh with the CDAN that the Yorkies are tight with Handbag? Fergie appearing to support Piers and yet rumoured that Bea and Eugenie are in league with Grip and Drip?
Hikari you had me cracking up. She can't keep her story straight. She's so desperate to hide the truth. She couldn't even fly to the lux hotel in London to support her husband (because then the truth would be obvious). OH did she want to go! Her prey has gotten away.
Completely agree that Harry is going to pay BIG time for showing up for sideshow Philip.
When can we start laughing at this sad saga with real people and throw tomatoes sat her?
Anyone else think the public is catching onto her complete lunacy with that inappropriate drivel?
Well, according to this article, Philip saw Harry as late as May 2019 at Lady Gabriella Windsor's wedding. Clock the huge smile on PP's face (also, who is standing directly behind him--quel surprise!) PP would have sat out Trooping and by the time Christmas rolled around, the Sharkles had bolted for Canada. I think PP's relationship with the renegade ginger twat ended for good two months after this photo was taken due to the Deal debacle.
It was certainly a different scene seven months after this, when PP stormed off the Sandringham estate altogether to avoid the ginger traitor.
I can picture the exit:
Driver: Where to, Sir?
PP: Just DRIVE, dammit, man! I'll tell you when to stop.
Viewing Harry's smirking face in the car, I'm thinking, the man is seriously not dealing with a full deck. Who smiles while on the way to view his grandad's body, who he hasn't seen for two years? He's not right in the head. Not just low IQ, but brain damage. That is really the only way I can regard Hazza without wanting to do something more permanent than slap his face.
She probably has Harry convinced it's her friends being misinformed and once again, shucks, going to the tabloids and being harassed due to how famous she is!
I wouldn't be playing roulette with the UK government, if I were her.
Loved your analysis of the article! She can't stand not being in control so is doing everything she can think of to show she is. I'm so glad she is ready to "forgive"!
Everyone is ignoring Meghan. Rightfully so, how utterly disrespectful of her.
Thank you for the DM article about MM not wanting to be the centre of attention. You could have fooled me. I was gobsmacked. If she really didn't want to be the centre of attention then she would have kept her trap firmly shut. She can't even remember her own lies - which is it now? First, her physician advised her not to fly, then she stayed in the US because she didn't want to be the centre of attention (like giving this message to 'friends'), then she left it to Harry. And for good measure, Doria, the concerned mother, didn't want her to fly.
So she and Philip - who she 'adored' - had a special bond? In her mind, maybe. As for her relationship with the Queen, she doesn't have one. I thought the BRF were nasty racists who kept her prisoner, anyway.
'Meghan said this is the opportune time for Henry to mend his relationship with his brother and his dad. She doesn't need to be there for that.' Yes, mend a relationship that she help destroy.
He [Harry] finished with the Latin words ''Per Mare, Per Terram.'' - 'By Sea, By Land' - the motto of the Royal Marines. I doubt that Harry knows any Latin, although the phrase is very basic. He had the gall to quote the motto of the Royal Marines who he dumped for a cheap film premiere in order to tout for work for his wife.
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The DM says Harry (in the article above) is quarantining at FrogCott but in another article they said Nottingham Cottage. I wonder which it is.
When can we start laughing at this sad saga with real people and throw tomatoes at her?
As avidly as I have followed this international trainwreck since the Corpse Bride nuptials, and I've done my share of laughing, the sad/disturbing elements have completely edged out the entertainment value for me. The wedding was bizarre, but I didn't start to get the feeling that Meg was seriously off-kilter until 6 months into the marriage with 'Square Bump' (ie, her very first solo engagement as the Duchess. She kept us laughing (mostly in disbelief) throughout the world's longest gestation period. I really began to get properly scared about her psychotic behavior during the polo match incident. Really . . I thought, 'This HAS to be 'the' moment she's finally done it! Who can deny the crazy now? She's carting around a doll in broad daylight and other people see it! All of Harry and Wills' well-heeled friends! But the next day, though the telling photos were there, in their toxic Technicolor glory--the Duchess of Sussex looking like the Madwoman of Chaillot with her plastic babe--and the expressions on people's faces!! Yet--nothing was said or done. The MSM crowed how chic Meg looked in her designer shades and olive green bivouac tent . .what an attentive Mum! To a nearly-newborn who never once twitched, cried, moved his little foot or head, needed a diaper change, hat, suncream . .and was swaddled in a heavy blanket despite being unprotected from the July sun.
Clearly at that moment, the RF should have been seen to act publicly to escort Meg and 'the baby' from the polo ground, followed the next day by the release of a statement that the Duchess was suffering from postpartum mental health issues and was getting needed rest, medical care and evaluation. That never happened, so she's been rampaging unchecked since then. Clearly, they underestimated her, as someone said. Massively underestimated her level of mental disturbance and Harry's too. The thing is, when she's not in the throes of a complete psycho meltdown, she appears and sounds quite plausible . . articulate, even, to casual observers.
She is a dangerous, malignant, seriously disturbed woman. Yet even now, as she spectacularly decompresses on the world stage, she's STILL getting glowing press coverage and support from celebrity friends. How much longer, truly, can this go on? People are starting to wake up but she's still got powerful media voices shilling her line.
Harry's not all there, either. Instead of jet setting round the world and giving television interviews to Oprah, these two people both should be in secure mental facilities. I'm incredulous that either of them is still on their own recognizance.
Hikari- Yeah Harry looks like an idiot smiling in the car. I honestly think he's thrilled to be back in the UK, even though his grandfather died. He's hoping to get some advantage back in this trip, mark my words. And Meghan is hoping so too...otherwise Harry would never be allowed to go back to England.
To everyone talking about Harry having to quarantine for 5 days, 10 days...he won't have to do any of that. He can skate by all of that stuff.
William's statement about Philip was wonderful. It was intimate and very kingly if I can say so. Lots of digs in there against Harry. I don't think I'm seeing things. Wills makes it clear that he has spent a lot of time with his grandfather, learning from him, etc. He makes it clear that his wife also knows and loved him well. He makes it clear that Will's children spent time with their great grandpappy. He also makes it clear that there have been 'the hardest times'which other than Diana's death, likely relates to his bonehead brother.
As for Markle's statement through her friends, I just can't dignify it with any response or analysis other than what you all stated above. She's a true piece of work.
I think what Harry meant was Philip was able to hold the attention of every and any type of individual in a room, not taken literally as any type of room. Lol ;o)
May God save the Queen and grant her many years yet, but at her age, how many can 'many' be? 5? 7 if she equals the Queen Mother's record. I totally believe ER capable of making it to her 100th birthday and even beyond. And it doesn't sound like QM was gaga in her last years and in fact survived long enough to sadly bury her younger daughter--a turn of events she could not have foreseen.
I am thinking that ruling out a complete turn around of attitude and a divorce, Harry would only be tolerated back home for funerals. The Queen's and his father's, principally. After that, what happens when William takes the reigns will be interesting to see. Harry is no doubt counting on family buckling under to demands for money and access as long as his father lives. If Chas emulates his parents, we could be in for 20+ years of occasions like the one now unfolding. Not sure any of us has the stamina for that.
I can see that I'm going to have to be strict with myself and do a full boycott of Internet news this week. Even when I am trying to look up something else, every time I open my Internet browser I am smacked with the smug unbearable faces of the Harkle creeps. I have read many very excellent tributes to Philip over the last few days, but now that Harry is in Blighty, the pro-Harkle press is going to be insufferable.
My prayers go out again to Her Majesty and family who have another stressor to deal with in addition to their profound loss. I am so angry I am on the point of wishing that Prince Gormless the Untrustworthy would get hit by a bus and the family could throw together a 2-for-1 special. That is terrible but that is honestly how I feel.
**@Nutties
I apologize if I brought a bogus piece of intel into the blog.
The rumor came from LSA where it was discussed and mentioned numerous times. Their info is usually very good.
In my defense, I did not state the story as fact and maintained it was a rumor by qualifying with the phrases “if it was true..”, etc.
And once nothing materialized any further and googling did not result in any more info developing, I posted again letting everyone know it had not been confirmed.
**Rebecca said...
It does not exist. Someone upthread needs to verify their facts before posting (or perhaps the misinformation was deliberate?)
I’ll eat my words and apologize if it turns out to be true.
April 12, 2021 at 3:35 PM
**@Rebecca
That was me who brought the story here to this blog but I can assure you that my part in posting it here was not to leave a deliberate plant.
May I ask how you are certain the interview booking is NOT true? Have you seen a rebuttal of some sort from Tom Bradby?
I will delete my prior posts regarding this story and just leave this one post here as a record of where the rumor started. And as a reminder to watch out for the small chance that it just might end up being true.
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My original posts:
JennS said...
I just read on LSA that Harry booked an interview with Tom Bradby of ITV!!!
How utterly disappointing he is!
So if true, is this an attempt to get some Harkle focused footage to incorporate into a future project? Is he actually monetizing his Grandfather's death?
If this story is true I think the RF may have made a mistake allowing him to attend this funeral.
April 12, 2021 at 12:52 AM
JennS said...
I haven't been able to confirm the story about Harry booking an interview with Tom Bradby - we'll have to wait and see if it materializes.
April 12, 2021 at 9:59 AM
If this interview does turn out to be a real thing, I'm sure Harry would make sure it didn't air until he'd left the country.
It would not be overstating the case to say that the Harry and Meghan problem is probably being talked about not only in Parliament but in Whitehall as well. Together and separately, Harry and his wife represent a direct threat to the peace and security of the Crown. What's going to be done about it?
On a different note - serious question:
Before FF, did the different palaces really try to out compete the others? I know in the book there was something about how competitive they were towards each other in terms of scheduling, taking on projects as power moves so someone else could not do anything similar but I don't remember reading anything like that before the book.
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You're all complaining about Prince Andrew's very brief interview. Better be prepared. ITV will seek out Harry for an interview and it will be orchestrated by Tom Bradby. That is, if it hasn't been arranged already.
Your excellent group analysis of this latest bit of insanity has me both nodding and laughing. I also share your disgust. Just quickly read the article. Center of attention! My god. She definitely was told to stay away. She is as you say losing her raging narc mind.
Question:
So if Dr Doria (and the Imaginary Ob/Gyn from two days ago) insist it is unsafe for the holy Young Mother to fly, how then is it safe for a 40+ year old woman to give birth at home on her yoga mat? Hmm?
I wonder if right now, Markus is trying to calm her down with “supplements” and wine? He is probably tired of sweeping the crockery up.
I also wonder if her next master stroke will be to pull a Mrs Danvers, and try to torch Mudslide Manor for press and to explain the disappearance of “Archie” the doll, the blood diamonds, all their “original Netflix scripts” on their burnt non-backed-up laptops, etc. it has to be something huge to pull attention from an important royal funeral and week of mourning, and something they could get another few Oprah specials out of along with insurance money....someone, get those poor dogs out of there for the time being.
One bright spot is that a funeral is the kiss of death (pardon that horrible pun), for a narcissist. You can't make the death of a beloved family member all about yourself, although from her latest statement, she's certainly trying! Also, in this case, they have the added detriment of having given that horrific interview while poor Philip was holding on during his last days.
Bottom line, it will be really nice to NOT see Meg at the funeral and as much as we can all try to focus on Philip, the Queen and the family, of course, there will be hijinx from the Harkles. Thankfully there is all of you wonderful people to run analysis on and b.s. they try to slip through
When you reach extreme old age, anger and frustration are debilitating and can even be fatal. Harry put his grandfather through that for months. I'm so relieved he didn't come back sooner, so that Prince Philip was able to reach that state of peacefulness and acceptance we all would want at the end of life.
William's statement shows deep love and understanding and a close bond with his grandfather. I love the reference to Prince George too. My paternal grandfather died when I was two and my mother actually was heavily pregnant with my brother. It always mattered to me that I had some time with my grandfather, even if I can't remember it. By all accounts he was a real character. Archie was removed from his wider family virtually at birth. When you compare his life to his Cambridge cousins, it would make you weep if his mother hadn't turned your heart to stone first.
Oh and Megs not wanting to be the centre of attention! As people say, here she goes. Cue endless contradictory untruths. Like a Californian Vicky Pollard for those who know the show 'Little Britain'. Trash will out. Yet again undermining the very thing she needs to stop her currency rate crashing. The royal connection. Proving yet again that she was always a crass conduit to the press, so toxic she can't even be allowed in the country. How many mistakes and missteps can one person make?
I have always believed that Meghan used to, or still does, or has, had a sexual relationship with Markus. Notwithstanding his bisexuality, that's definitely her go to. We'll have to check on Little Girl Sussex to see if she has the Harry look.
If that's true, surely Eugenie, hubby & baby can't be there as well?
Does anyone know where Beatrice and her husband live?
Is there anything more utterly pretentious than MM fearing she might become the center of attention at Philips funeral?
I can't find the words. Its like every time she opens her mouth, frogs jump out.
And I couldn't be happier. She is unraveling. And revealing that ghastly face behind her mask.
Yesterday I happened on a Shallon Lester video regarding The Interview. Shallon is not for everyone. She does not suffer from a surplus of humility, and for those sensitive to the F-bomb, she must be torture, but she had some really interesting things to say about the "queen of the victims and her prince" mentality.
Primarily, she asks "why? Why would you announce how weak you are to the world? You have just told the strong that you are prey." She also adds some tabloid insights, since she used to be an editor at The Star.
If you are stuck in traffic, its pretty interesting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vAkBuXeJTFY
I am in agreement with other Nutties that said that Eugenie and Jack bailed on the Frogmore thing after all of the mayhem over it. I think they live somewhere else.
I'm not sure I believe they ever lived there at all.
Does anyone know where Beatrice and her husband live?
St James’s Palace. (I think)
I agree -- I think Markus is her forever twist and partner in crime. I keep wondering if he has anything to do with Archie as well (if an Archie exists). Once Megs splits from H, she will probably turn up as something like the hostess of Soho House-Perth, courtesy of Markus, both still on the hunt.
The mysterious Markus Anderson is even more elusive than Dorito.
My impression of MA is not of one who swings to women even some of the time but he is definitely deeply involved with Smeg. As the “facilitator”, to be euphemistic Of various Recreational transactions peering guests at his hotel with available local talent, MA Was the chief architect of Operation Bag a Royal Halfwit. I can totally believe that Meg keeps him close...He’s got so many receipts on her. And on Harry. Perhaps he lives with them Ménage a Trois style...Playmate for Harry maybe. I didn’t consider H’s sexuality ambiguous until circa 2017, but we’ve heard so many stories since then. I no longer think Harry is strictly heterosexual. Certainly Markus knew how to procure other things H is into. Now that they’re stateside, Meg has to use her contacts. MA was the open the acknowledged boyfriend of Edward Enninful for at least two years. He’s not been seen or heard from since the Harkles fled to North America, but The persistent rumor is that he is shocked up with them wherever they’re living, and has followed them around since Tyler Perry’s, persists. Maybe it was he who Hot Rob saw pulling into Mudslide Towers.
AnT- Yeah Markus is hungry like Meghan, not well off and scratching for a living like she used to be. Markus is also bi,not wealthy and would never give Meghan all his attention so he didn't pass the husband sniff test. But they are definitely partners in crime!
It's telling that Dimwitted ol 'Arry isn't annoyed by Markus always lingering around. Meghan probably always says..."Oh Markus is gay, you know that"
I actually used to know of a girl who had a gay male friend who was always around. The girl had a boyfriend and he never said anything because it was known that the guy was gay. It turned out that this girl had been sleeping with this gay friend basically on and off for years. They also had a bizarre pseudo relationship. I don't know whatever happened but just mentioned it in comparison to Meghan and Markus.
The-center-of-attention article in the DM says H is quarantining at Nott Cott.
Like everything associated with the Harkles this little building is long on mystery and short on the facts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9462169/Friends-Meghan-say-stayed-doesnt-want-center-attention.html
Markus is also bi,not wealthy and would never give Meghan all his attention so he didn't pass the husband sniff test. But they are definitely partners in crime!
It's telling that Dimwitted ol 'Arry isn't annoyed by Markus always lingering around. Meghan probably always says..."Oh Markus is gay, you know that"
I actually used to know of a girl who had a gay male friend who was always around. The girl had a boyfriend and he never said anything because it was known that the guy was gay. It turned out that this girl had been sleeping with this gay friend basically on and off for years. They also had a bizarre pseudo relationship. I don't know whatever happened but just mentioned it in comparison to Meghan and Markus.
Cf. my comment above . . If Markus is kept around, it's as a playmate for both Megs and Harry, I'm thinkin. I think MA has been there from the beginning, with their relationship in all its facets.
This reminds me of the relationship that Lord Snowdon had with his best mate Jeremy Fry and his best mate's wife, Camilla. (the irony . . ) Tony carried on sexual affairs with both of the Frys, separately and together, and Mrs. Fry was in fact up the duff by Tony when he got married to Margaret.
Sexual depravity amongst the upper classes is so commonplace, it doesn't even rate comment.
Good grief at the Meghan Markle attention whoring. Why not just show up and twerk on the coffin?
ConstantGardener33 said…
Man, she's desperately scratching around like a cat trying to cover its #2.
You know those moments when you burst out laughing and get asked what's so funny? LOL I tried to explain through the giggles but poor hubby still looks like he has no clue what's going on. I'll definitely be passing those gems along when I phone mum tomorrow, she'll find it hilarious. I know I shouldn't find it amusing but hearing my normally very polite and proper elderly mother letting rip about Meghan with the kind of language I'd expect from a sailor sets me off every time.
Many thanks to everyone for your kind words :O)
I'd watch "Morgy and Fergie", yes I would.
But how does this mesh with the CDAN that the Yorkies are tight with Handbag? Fergie appearing to support Piers and yet rumoured that Bea and Eugenie are in league with Grip and Drip?
I think that those CDAN "releases" are from Megs, and she's desperately trying to get people to believe that she is still in favor with some of the royals. Nope, sorry, not after the way she attention whored at Eugenie's wedding.
Jessica I just saw your post on piers and fergie. Hmmm Megs said she met the queen with Ferguson there and Georgie showed her how to curtsy? Could piers be throwing Meg shade. I know that’s now how you met the queen and fergie knows.
But how does this mesh with the CDAN that the Yorkies are tight with Handbag? Fergie appearing to support Piers and yet rumoured that Bea and Eugenie are in league with Grip and Drip?
I think that those CDAN "releases" are from Megs, and she's desperately trying to get people to believe that she is still in favor with some of the royals. Nope, sorry, not after the way she attention whored at Eugenie's wedding.
I think this whole story of 'an alliance' between the Harkles and Harry's York cousins is utter tripe invented by Meg for PR.
Consider Eugenie's deep and reverential curtsy to the Queen on her wedding day. That surpassed even Catherine's, if not her own mother's in 1986. Eugenie has never once, to any knowledge, been anything less than profoundly respectful to her grandmother. When the two are pictured, it's always with smiles and laughter. Bea likewise gets smiles from the Queen, though she is seen somewhat less often in photos. But look at the visible favor the Queen bestowed on her at her wedding--the Queen's own dress and tiara, with HM and PP both smiling in the wedding photos with the new couple. Even more open favor to Beatrice than her sister, considering the special circumstances of that wedding. Again, Beatrice, unlike Harry, has never embarrassed the Queen publicly.
Why would the York girls start embarrassing the Queen now, and sneaking around her back to broker clandestine real estate deals and 'alliances' with their mental black sheep cousin who stuck two fingers up to the Queen and to Prince Philip and buggered off to America?
I don't believe they have.
If Eugenie and Jack are now inhabiting Frogmore Cottage (not sufficiently proven as fact to me), then they are there by the grace and favor of the Queen, who gave it to them to live in, having revoked it from the ingrate grandson and his grasping tart. It was never Harry's to 'let out' on his whim. Never.
E. and J. were staying at Royal Lodge in the lead-up to the baby due to Covid restrictions and for a more peaceful life. There's equal chance that they returned to Eugenie's childhood home with baby August until such time as she returns to work in London, if she does. Ivy Cott is still there. Small, yes, but I've heard it's got three bedrooms. A lot of young couples manage with fewer bedrooms. Frogmore Cottage has all of a sudden become this super desirable property that E. wants even Meg and Harry didn't think it was good enough for them? More spin. Eugenie's Easter family photo was most definitely probably snapped in Windsor somewhere, but likely not the garden of FroggyCott.
Perhaps Eugenie spoke to Harry on the phone or they did a Zoom chat recently. At this point, the York cousins would probably be the *only* family members willing to speak to Harry. Who else is he going to call? Not his brother or father. Not step-mummy, who I'm sure is dying to rip Megalo's head off and p!$$ down her neck. Auntie Anne? Same. Uncle Edward probably isn't too keen, though he was the friendliest face at the CW service last year. Not Andrew. That only leaves E. and B. Probably E., as the cousin H was closest to at one time. But agreeing to talk to him on the phone does not an alliance make, particularly not after how he allowed his wife to insult Eugenie's whole family at her wedding. That and the snit over the emerald tiara isn't so easily forgotten. Harry thinks everyone else's attention span is as short as his. Wrong.
Even if E. is willing to let bygones be bygones over wedding drama, Harry and his tart have done much, much worse since then.
@Hikari,
I agree — those CDAN blinds about the York’s are certainly from Rachel with the Hotmail. Trying to look like “well, the cousins love me!” because she smells their newlywed/new baby popularity and wants some of it and may fear they will glide into the openings the Harkles left behind. Plus, perhaps she thinks it makes her look younger for her brand, to be close to the 31 and 32 year old sisters. She has publicly alienated all of Harry’s friends and all his family, three future kings and a Queen, in two years, and now has to scrounge up some sort of vague connection to use to sell her “royal link” to potential clients.
Funny how we don’t hear about her close bond with new mother Zara, who is closer to her in age? Just the doubtful dribble about Zara forming peace between the brothers over the Di statue. My guess is Megs is terrified of any Canny Anne adjacent connection. Megs runs and hides from conflict, and I think Zara could lash her to smithereens at this point.
I wish someone from William’s camp would tell CDAN that even though Harry is in quarantine, a slim blonde in sunnies, cap and trench has been making nightly visits to his cottage with Waitrose bags, and warm laughter and the scent of roast.... beef fills the air.
From that time onwards I regretted Charles' determination to slim the working monarchy down to his own line. Choosing his waste of space son over two such suitable people as his two nieces! I hope he's learned his lesson now.
There won't be enough royal to go around, if the Windsors are to remain more than figureheads in national life. I expect Beatrice may take a back seat but Jack and Eugenie are naturals. They could do a lot to restore equilibrium. As I said before, with the Cambridges there would be two happy young families. Just by existing they are the best possible antidote to the Sussexes who get sleazier by the day.
@Hikari,
Meant to add that I think there is no way York girls would be encouraged by their parents to befriend the Harkles now. Andrew needs to keep his nose clean to be allowed to continue to live in his home as his life splinters to bits over the Epstein thing. Fergie needs that too, and the risk of angering William with a Harkle misstep when Charles already loathes Andrew.... Fergie isn’t overly bright but she knows she needs a free place to live, and likely wants her girls to have a chance at some kind of royal living.
There is nothing for the Yorks to gain from the Harkles —- unless Megs is trying to get insider info from the Yorks by dangling a carrot, pretending she can ink Fergie a million dollar storytelling VO deal on her nonexistent Netflix kids program series.
Anyway, Harry stubbornly returns to the family he just pissed on a month ago, and puts out an embarrassing post, while Rachel keeps spitting out ridiculous stories and blinds.
We know see even a incredibly huge family loss cannot slow their elbowing or lunacy. What’s more, William knows it too.
-opinion piece about about how H signed off from this tribute'.
The comments are scathing, general view is that she wrote it. Interesting that the comments haven't been pulled.
I always tell myself it's because there have been so many cover-ups carried out to hide certain behaviors and particular parts of their history, because they have told so many porkies to hide their real agendas, and because they have become such a divisive pair that their inclusion in anything royal from now on will have to be handled with kid gloves. And this may include not being honest when reporting about them and having to manipulate the public with certain narratives.
Why can't Harry's arrival back in England for his Grandfather's funeral be a story told without strange conflicting details and odd narratives pushed in articles, and with some photographic proof of his presence?
First, we are told by The Sun "A black Cadillac Escalade was seen leaving their home on Saturday evening taking him to LA airport where he boarded an early-hours flight for the ten-hour trip."
Who could have possibly seen Harry leave Mudslide Mansion in the secluded private area he supposedly lives in? Was Hot💋Rob on the job watching out for Hazza's departure in between buying one Montecito mansion after another? If the paps caught this where is the photo?
And why aren't there any photos of him at either airport?
Next, we have conflicting stories of where he is staying with some press outlets/newspapers reporting it as FrogCott and others saying he's at NottCott. This might not be so weird except for the fact that their entire history of residing in Frogmore is suspect.
In my opinion, Nottingham Cottage at Kensington Palace makes more sense for Harry to quarantine.
If Eugenie and family are living at FrogCott why would they want someone who has just arrived from another country during a pandemic to quarantine with them and their NEW BABY?
If Frogmore Cottage is empty and Eugenie doesn't live there, why open such a large building for one person during a visit that will be for a week or more? Would that not require more staff and what about covid / quarantine protocol for those staff members?
NottCott is MUCH smaller than FrogCott and as far as we know is not occupied. It just makes more sense to stay at NC.
So why is there a secretive confusing mix-up about his housing arrangements?
I read in the Telegraph that Harry must officially report his 'quarantine address'.
Is Frogmore Cottage still needed as a UK address for Harry?
Is there still something so secretive about the Harkle's history with Frogmore Cottage including the money spent on it, that all this deception and the contradictory stories stem from those secrets?
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“IF the family knew a month ago that PP was going to die, does anyone think that info was shared with H?”
I think the Harkles were informed, but assumed they were being lied to so they would put the brakes on their Oprah interview. I’m sure Megsy thought they were trying to “silence” her from telling “her truth” by using the Prince Philip card.
Now that the worst has happened, nothing will ever come of it. Let’s face it, they’ll never talk to any journalist that would have the brass to call them out on this. And if someone did, we’d just get a word salad about how he was 99 and they couldn’t sit on “their truth” because they needed to “thrive not just survive” and couldn’t wait until Prince Philip returned to his maker for that to happen.
Curious, IF the family knew a month ago that PP was going to die, does anyone think that info was shared with H? They would have had an entire month to prepare their statement, but instead got "thank you for your service". It just seems dumb and unexpected. H knew PP was in the hospital and didn’t bother to call or zoom (if do we would have heard about it). He is as bonkers and self absorbed as she is.
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I think the Harkles knew PP was not going to last long - I'm sure the family would have told them. And most people guessed that he was in trouble. I remember talking to my Dad about PP when he was in the hospital and had the heart surgery. My Dad sad he didn't think PP would be around much longer.
I saw in one article that Harry is blaming covid for not returning to England while his Grandfather was still alive. That is total bull. He was too busy setting up his deals/new jobs, doing the Oprah interview and posing for pap photos on the beach with his dog.
This is the 'new Harry' thanks to Markle. You can see in old photos that Harry had a good relationship with his Grandfather and both shared a love of joking around. Markle took something that was spoiled but still had some good spots around the edges and turned it into a rotten to-the-core putrid foostie mess.
I think the Harkles were informed, but assumed they were being lied to so they would put the brakes on their Oprah interview. I’m sure Megsy thought they were trying to “silence” her from telling “her truth” by using the Prince Philip card.
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I've thought about this, but see my last post....it was obvious that PP was very ill. The public all knew he was in trouble how could the Harkles not believe this?
She might try to lie and claim this as an excuse for her callous behavior. It really is no excuse anyway since they knew he was in the hospital and had been for some time.
Shame on them as well as Oprah and Gayle!
Or maybe Megs doesn’t know which one and is trying to create drama so some one would check it out seeing she has few allies in London. Maybe his location finder was turned off. Now that would be a story
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This is a funny theory and I would love it if she was being kept in the dark!
Maybe there is a conspiracy to whisk Hazza off to some kind of deprogramming center or mental health facility. Perhaps he is quarantining and getting de-programmed at the same time.🤣
Her antics have reached new levels of crazy today. She couldn’t handle the BRF getting respectful attention over the death of a prominent long term member? She seems lost in this alter reality as if the Royal Family is a scripted soap opera. I believe she doesn’t understand what Royal means at all, and is still desperate to fit it into the fairytale mold she envisioned. Didn’t she say she was living a dream more perfect than a fairytale? And compare herself to Ariel, the Disney Princess? She cannot accept that is fantasy, and is lost in a deluded world trying to convince everyone the Disney version is true. What the hell is wrong with her? Is she really this detached from reality?! A real live human sadly passed away. What is so hard to understand about this? It’s not a fairytale, it is a tragedy deserving humble respect!
I just can’t believe she smugly puts out the statements she does. Part of me thinks, “oh yes, keep putting your foot in your mouth.” And the other part of me is completely mortified that she thinks any of this is a good idea.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/12/keir-starmer-says-press-coverage-of-meghan-markle-was-not-racist-14397562/
I would say better late than never but in this case I doubt it. The damage is done now and it was his duty to stand up for the truth far earlier than this. Instead he watched many of his MPs dance to Markle's tune.
Just saw daily mail had an article that harry may have to quarantine 14 days after his return to US. So at least one week away from her and likely two more. Three weeks at least- how good are the deprogrammers?
also an article about senior royals accompanying the queen when she does engagements so she wont be alone. harry meghan - blew it big time
Re a tunnel between Heathrow airport and Windsor, Windsor is about 10 miles (16km) from the airport so a bit long for an ordinary tunnel (except for the tube or tunnels under mountains). I've never heard of such a tunnel. In any case, the BRF are collected from the tarmac and driven away discreetly so I'm not sure why a tunnel would be needed but I could be wrong.
a 10 mile long tunnel would be a feat of engineering. The Chunnel is 30 miles long, more or less.
Now, there could be a tunnel from Heathrow but it doesn't necessarily have to go to Windsor. It could just end up on a street or highway somewhere.
I found your Tom Bradby post to be supportive.
And I agree with **@Humor Me that Harry is perhaps being kept under wraps because the RF does not want him to do anything whatsoever to mar the funeral nor the week of mourning. It seems like they have him under control. It's a good thing too because I think that Bradby interview sounded just like something they would have planned.
I see there may be a photo of Harry in England after all? I haven't checked the DM yet...
David Muir, the anchor (news reader for our Brit nutties) of the ABC Evening News announced at the end of a story on this evening’s broadcast to update Prince Philip’s passing and funeral plans noted at the end of the story that the ABC television network will have live coverage of Philip’s funeral beginning at either 9:00 am or 9:30 am Eastern Daylight Time this coming Saturday. I didn’t catch the exact time because my dog started barking, but that network’s coverage starts at one of those two times.
I thought someone said they saw one and wondered why he was grinning away in the back of a car.
I can't seem to find it.
I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.
It's meant to be what we would now call 'closure' but 'sleepers in that quiet earth' had the opposite effect on me. Horrendous. Maybe because if you're asleep you're not dead?
To get a little more on topic, did you know Emily Brontë based Wuthering Heights on a true story? Of a man who systematically dismantled and dispossessed a family in Yorkshire? Halifax if I remember rightly. I think that's why Meghan has a horrid fascination. We're watching a Gothic novel come to life.
I believe that picture was an old one Jenn (discussion is up thread). Harry was on his way to visit Lewis Hamilton?
I'm not sure who caught it, but it sounds like its getting pulled from the stories.
Again, somehow the Harkles are diverting attention from HMs pain and PPs life.
"Once, coming down the back stairs with him after some lunchtime function at a club in central London, we passed the kitchen. The duke stopped, turned back and marched in, unannounced, to meet the chefs and dish-washers.
There was laughter, back-slapping, joshing: an enviable display of people skills and unselfconscious charm. The only time I’ve seen it quite as well done was recently — by Prince William."
Thanks - it must have been removed completely now as I don't see the photo anywhere.
My father is just like him. We always joke "Just Do It" is his answer to everything. And maybe it is. He never gets anxious about anything. I asked him why and he said that when, as a child, you've spent night after night in an air-raid shelter, hearing bombs landing and knowing people are trying to kill you, nothing else really worries you after that. My grandfather kept working after the raid that killed his brother and sister.
When the generation that remembers the war dies out, we will have lost something incredibly precious. I often think it's no coincidence that the vacuous, drama-queen tribe that follows the Sussexes seem to have no knowledge or interest in anything outside themselves and their own petty lives. They are incapable of measuring their suffering against others. Even if it's right in front of them, as it was for Harry and Meghan in South Africa.
So much was made of young Harry in Africa, but it was deception, pure and simple. I've now come to believe he was using those children, orphaned poverty-stricken and even terminally ill, just as Meghan cynically carried out those one-off faux humanitarian gestures, including the vital issue of menstruation affecting young girls' lives and education. There's no limit to what they will use to satisfy their own wants. Charities must recognise them for what they are. They are parasites. Stop hosting them. Starve them. If royal patronage is needed, seek the real thing. Or find someone else entirely. Someone with real achievements under their belt.
I've read a few things that said that the more trauma you experienced as a child, the easier it was for you to get traumatised later on.
Philip and your father seem to have a natural sense of how to overcome trauma and to be resilient.
I'm concerned that Harry in quarantine will have way too much time for online coaching from Meghan. I can't imagine him curled up reading a book. Probably the only rebellion open to him while he's here is fast food deliveries! If they can get to him that is. Calling all Deliveroo riders. Do YOU know where Harry is?
https://www.insider.com/fox-host-links-harry-meghan-interview-prince-philip-death-2021-4
Archie Harrison will dearly miss Prince Philip, say Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1422137/Archie-Harrison-latest-news-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Prince-Philip-royal-family
That story from Skippy is so funny — like the Beckhams! What a wit he had.
@JennS,
The ginning Harry in a car photo was shown to be from early 2020, per its original posting on someone’s March 2020 Twitter thread. Not current. Which is why I am still swinging my hips an stamping my booted toe saying Prove you’re there, pal. I hope Rob is sitting on their road with night vision goggles right now, waiting. Who’s ponytail guy? Where is Archie? Where is Harry?
JennS, I also loved your earlier post about why does every damn thing around the Harkles have such a game!
@Puds,
(1) Working on creating a couple of events a few years back, looking for unique night venues, we were shown two unused tunnel systems under two different cities. One extremely old,1800s, and one maybe 50 years old. Were told they were fairly extensive. Both known to area artists. Really strange to see! All that effort! (2) yes yes yes! isn’t it astonishing that the world press corps seemingly have no idea where Harry is now or even any proof he lives in Montecito?
@jessica,
Per your 1:23 AM comment,
Agreed and doesn’t it feel like this very sad week is also unexpectedly turning into a sort of litmus test for the level of her madness?
@Ava, that's interesting about how people move on from trauma.
I've read a few things that said that the more trauma you experienced as a child, the easier it was for you to get traumatised later on.
Philip and your father seem to have a natural sense of how to overcome trauma and to be resilient.
I think that children that are encouraged (or forced) to develop competencies in different areas when young grow into far more resilient adults than those that were "protected" from walking to the playground to play with friends unsupervised, empty lot softball, earning spending money, having a lemon-aid stand, mowing lawns, cleaning their rooms, and learning to do household chores. Children that have had a history of striving, achieving, experiencing setbacks and losses will just grow up IMO capable of more.
Adults who have been wrapped in a protective cocoon as children seem to turn into adults that are afraid to take on any challenges or, conversely, adults that are so convinced of their superiority to the extent that they refuse to work for less than $50.00 an hour even though they have no discernible skills.
Perhaps there are certain ages that children are meant to develop competencies, such as the very young in acquiring languages.
@JennS
I apologize if my reaction to the Bradby interview rumor seemed harsh. When I read the comment I became very upset at the idea that Harry and Meghan would stoop so low, and I went straightaway to find the stories about it in the British press. There were none, though, and somehow I felt duped.
The contrast between William and Harry’s statements about their grandfather could not be starker, could it? William’s was so heartfelt and moving, yet dignified. And that last paragraph—he really took it to his brother and sister-in-law. Bravo.
Medieval castles had emergency exits (sally ports) so it had occurred to the builders that defenders might want to `sally forth' and attack, or need to escape unnoticed.
During the last war, when the immediate danger was aerial bombing, followed by risk of invasion, the King, Queen and the 2 young princesses spent much time at Windsor. Apparently, at night they would board the Royal train, presumably at Windsor Royal Station, barely 150 yards from the nearest gate to the castle (it's now a shopping centre) and would be taken to spend the night safely, deep in a railway tunnel (I've no idea where) in comfort. Is that where the tunnel idea came from?
Heathrow airport began as a small airfield in the 1920s - a handy bit of flat ground on Hounslow Heath (once notorious for highwaymen). Heathrow Cottage(s) is/are what the 17thC remains of the hamlet that gives its name to LHR (ie Heath Row), originally called just `London Airport', before Luton, Gatwick & Stansted became anything much. (I've heard warm recommendations of the B&B at Heathrow Cottages - v handy if you prefer not to patronise one of the hotels on Bath Rd!
See https://www.heathrow-cottages.co.uk
During the war, Heathrow was an RAF station but afterwards the government was very devious in getting hold of the land permanently in order to start building what is there now without raising protests. It's just over 5 miles minimum between the boundaries of the Great Park and LHR.
Post-war emergency escape plans for the RF were said to have involved HMRY Britannia, now a tourist attraction in Leith, Scotland, so we can forget that.
There are rumours of post-war secret tunnels & disused Tube tunnels in London which are a matter of national security so I doubt if a)they lead to the Portland or b) they'd allow MM anywhere near them.
Diana used to get in and out of KP, it was reported, by being driven - while she lay on the floor out of sight. A van-like Land Rover would be ideal. When we bought a Defender, 20+ years ago, I'd been plagued by other motorists playing silly blighters when I was driving my little Polo. The LR dealer laughed when I said I'd feel safer in a LR - as he said,
`They won't know if you have a large dog or a loaded shotgun in the back!'
Did you see the articles about how William dumped Bradby after 20 years of friendship due to the bias he was showing Harry? That may have been what he was referring to in the tweet you saw.
@Nelo
Do you have a link to the Bradby info? Thanks
As I've said I haven't been able to confirm the Bradby story but the idea that Harry would book an interview with someone to discuss his grandfather outside of what the rest of the RF is doing sounds IMO just like something he and Markle would plot. I imagine he would want to affirm his place in the family along with his royal connections, plus create something to perhaps use later for a documentary or Netflix project.
I hope the RF keeps him on a leash during his entire visit.
It doesn’t happen as much, but the press do restrain themselves a little when it comes to reporting on the Royal Family. There is a lot of misinformation and fake news on the internet etc. I give little credence to some of the stuff I read and this is one such piece. :o/
Capital punishment was abolished in the UK in 1967, apart from for Treason or arson in HM Dockyards. Even those exceptions have gone now.
The last beheading in England was of the Cato St conspirators (1820) - not by axe though. Old ways of execution lasted a long time - the last burning at the stake was in 1784, in Winchester. That was of a wife who'd murdered her husband, known as Petty Treason as opposed to High Treason. It stemmed from a belief in a `hierarchy of authority' which saw a husband as `king' of his family.
Burning at the stake was abolished in 1790 - I once read of a Winchester servant girl who was boiled alive at Winchester in the 18thC for the murder of her master.
You beat me to it regarding the possibility of a tunnel from Windsor to Buckingham Palace or Heathrow. I’ve never heard of one either and I was thinking that would be one supper long tunnel. How would they transport any royal in a tunnel? The issue of practicalities when they can discreetly use a car. There are tunnels for maintenance of pipes etc under Windsor but not used as a means of travelling to and from to my knowledge.
During the War, my father bagged several of the King's partridges, using his service rifle, when on the road through WGP. He'd just pick them up, put them in his RAF van and drive on, unobserved.
He'd post them to my mother who was very grateful for them, as long as they weren't delayed somewhere in the railway system!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/crown-jewels-nazis-second-world-war-hidden-windsor-castle-queen-elizabeth-ii-king-george-vi-
The biscuit tin presumably would have been a big one like this -
https://www.militariazone.com/food-rations/a-good-large-british-1943-dated-biscuit-tin/itm20883#.YHVqE-hKjIU
Grocers used ones of a similar size in the 1950s.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-to-go-maternity-23900607
Altogether now: Maternity leave from what???
Spiders go on weaving their webs to the end.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14632350/prince-william-tribute-harry-dig-omid-scobie/
Re the video of William and footballers, I remember it, it's very funny. The footballer is Peter Crouch.
The video shows William's sense of humour and how down to earth he is.
https://youtu.be/hpUyNyeTM9A
Yes, on maternity leave from what? If she's using a sure, this could be to reinforce the idea of a genuine pregnancy.
I read the article (thanks for the link). In any case, this is maternity leave before the birth, which is now supposed to be in early June, in addition to the time off they're taking after the birth. Maybe those Netflix deals etc are slow to materialise, or else it's an excuse not to do anything. Anyway, anything to be in the news until at least Sunday.
I agree, the maternity leave excuse is the covering reason why she won’t been seen to be busy with all those so called Netflix Spotify etc projects because they aren’t any or as you state slow to materialise?
One other possibility is it is another way for her to continue "Royaling" since Catherine also would take official leaves.
American style Social Justice demands that Megs unique voice of diversity be heard on this solemn occasion. Otherwise the entire UK is racist. Including N. Ireland, Wales and the Isles of Man and Wight.
'American style Social Justice demands that Megs unique voice of diversity be heard on this solemn occasion' - is this a joke? What 'unique voice of diversity'? She must be the only 'diverse' woman on the planet. It is a solemn occasion, so all the more reason for MM to keep schtum for once in her life. There should be a ban in the press on her name and photos until after the funeral.
"Archie Harrison will dearly miss Prince Philip, say Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1422137/Archie-Harrison-latest-news-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Prince-Philip-royal-family"
But will Archie Harrison "dearly miss" his other grandpa, you know the one that's still alive who he's never met?
@CatsMeow
More hilarity from Scobie.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14632350/prince-william-tribute-harry-dig-omid-scobie/
Yes, William's tribute was both heartfelt and a massive dig at the harry Meg. It's also funny that Scoobie Scoobie Doo says, "I think if there's anything that's sort of beautiful about this week and in the days leading up to the funeral it's about seeing a family unified in a way that we haven't seen in so many years."
Of course that logic doesn't apply to Thomas Markle. He's Archie's grandpa too. You know the one he's never met. The one Harry's never met either. Of course he did have the audacity to pose for tabloids to make himself look sympathetic. Only the harry Meg's entitled to do that! And he really blew it having a heart attack from the stress before the wedding.
Regardless of the pathetic spin here, we know this funeral isn't healing anything because these 2 narcs don't give a fig about family. They've made that loud and clear.
Yes I saw them! Bradby would have to have ZERO insight to understand the loss of access to the Royals in a significant way impacts his career much more, than the loss of access to Harry Montecito. I understand some of these long term reporters have a soft spot for Harry, but they work in *journalism* where bias is meant to be kept at bay. I’m sure Meghan is convincingly charming in short doses, and reporters love the vibe she gives- she *wants to talk* she doesn’t want to be *silenced*. I get the allure.
How so many journalists hitched themselves to Meghan and Harry is beyond me. She’s nothing more than a chumped up (all talk) gold digger who’s also destroying the guy they claim to care about! Perhaps Bradby is playing the long game. Maybe he wants to write the book with Harry’s approval when she leaves Harry. There are reasons we can’t know, but publicly and personally I’d assume it’s a huge loss to lose access to the future King, versus the drama housewives sideshow in Montecito.
I doubt they’ve been in contact with Bradby, and like the other commenter here- I’ll eat my shoe if an interview comes to pass. Meghan gives me the vibe she wants women to conduct any interviews to soften their situation. Will Harry do an emotional interview this week? He shouldn’t, but I hope so. How can his agent (Megs) let this moment in history pass without a big non-silenced approach.
Here is a quote from Bradby- I don't have his whole article:
In his piece for The Sunday Times, Bradby offered what may be interpreted as a warning to the House of Windsor: “We just don’t know what comes next. If their co-operation in the ITV documentary was qualified honesty, what would the real deal look like? I have some idea of what might be aired in a full, no-holds-barred, sit-down interview and I don’t think it would be pretty.”
“I suspect the royal family would carry British public opinion still perhaps only just but its international standing is a key part of its value to the British state. If that were to be tarnished, it could be very damaging indeed,” he wrote, adding, “But the family urgently needs a meaningful peace deal with the young breakaway couple, because a protracted war would be very bloody indeed.”
I suspect William dumped Bradby after the atrocious South Africa documentary. He’s truly a nasty piece, and does appear he’s writing veiled threats aimed at the royal family.
Harry deserves no place at his Grandfather’s funeral I don’t think it bodes well for the aftermath. I don’t trust Harry not to spill the beans to Gayle King etc.
Megs attack on the Royal Family calling them racists after one comment was made 4 years appears to have had a negative impact on the Queens beloved family of Commonwealth Countries that Prince Philip and Queen worked so hard for. How dare the American style Social Justice demand that Megs unique voice of diversity be heard on this solemn occasion. We demand Megs lets Philip have the peaceful funeral he deserves, they ruined his last few months of life with the Oprah interview attacking his family now his funeral too?
America has a much larger race problem and woke problems than England/UK. Megs is operating by American standards. Americans is who she is pitching to these days for fame and fortune. Woke Americans on the East and West coasts rule twitter. Woke UK people do not participate as much in viciously twitter mobbing those who offend them.
We all know that the BRF liked the idea Megs coming into The Firm, due to her mixed race they figured she would do great as an ambassador for the Queens Commonwealth Nations organization. Thus Megs and Hapless had top appointments to this org. Megs acted very enthused to become a working Royal in her (she did all the talking while clasping Hapless' hand) infamous engagement interview. Alas, the M/H Commonwealth was not meant to be.
And..I know there are rumours this story is not true,but if it is how dare Harry make demands that if he can't wear a uniform then William can't, and the family possible feeling they will have to comply with this demand because Megs will scream racism. Harry can wear a suit just like the Queens eldest grandchild Peter a fellow non working royal and like Zara's husband a businessman.
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I was under the impression Harry can't cosplay the uniform because he no longer has his military titles. If they give into him on this, they may as well give him the titles back.
The thing about Harry and Meghan is that, like children, they are utterly convinced that if they could only get their side of the story out, the world would understand and love them.
Megs started out by leaking "her truth", then by having her friends talk to the press, then with the Bradby interview, then with all the PR stories, then with Oprah.
Every time they try this they reveal themselves as being even more repellent than we thought before. And so they blame the press, other people, the RF for making them look bad.
Their entire PR strategy seems to be to trash others. If they can make Kate, or William look bad, then they will be loved.
It always has backfired, but they keep trying it. They seem utterly incapable of learning.
That Bradby comment does sound like a warning. But it was said before the Oprah interview, right? I think they used what they had there. Oprah would have seen how relatively minor and easily disputed their bombshells were and tried to dig for more.
Let them keep blathering "their truth". The truth is they are despicable, and the thinking world despises them.
I love the idea of a press moratorium this week. That would be a beautiful thing.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210413110884/meghan-markle-supported-doria-ragland-prince-harry-uk/
This bit is enraging, about Doria:
She'll no doubt help with childcare duties and comfort Meghan, who is said to have been close to her grandfather-in-law Prince Philip.
"Who is said". Only by the Wicked Witch of Montecito and her minions. Meghan honestly seems to believe people will buy this.
What self-control the royals are going to need, watching those two clamouring Me! Me! Me!. That tone-deaf tribute showing Harry had no idea how his grandfather really was. Of course he doesn't want to face up to how he treated a 99-year-old man on his deathbed. He'd rather believe he was the resilient hail fellow well met character of his childhood. Now Meghan needs comfort because she was so close to Philip.
IT.
WON'T.
WASH.
Perhaps we shouldn't discount the possibility of a very short tunnel from the castle to a secluded location in the Gt. Park, from where they could be picked up in vehicle, away from prying eyes?
I think that’s very possible. About 30 years ago I visited the family home of an English friend whose father was a BAFTA winning TV/screenwriter/playwright. Ivy House was a historic property located just a few hundred yards from Hampton Court Palace. Mr. Galton took me on a brief tour of the centuries old subterranean tunnels linking Ivy House to the palace. A bit creepy but very interesting.
Marie Claire
Prince Harry Is "Really Missing" Meghan Markle and Will Only Stay in England One Week
Mehera Bonner
Tue, 13 April 2021, 2:51 pm BST
Prince Harry is currently in the United Kingdom for Prince Philip's funeral—his first time home for over a year. Harry went home by himself due to Meghan Markle's doctor advising her not to travel at this stage in her pregnancy, and apparently the Duke has been in touch with her and Archie constantly.
“He’s already really missing Meghan and Archie and has been FaceTiming them every day to check in,” a source tells Us Weekly. “He actually speaks to Meghan a few times a day because he worries [about] leaving her when she’s so far along in her pregnancy.”
According to the source, Harry will stay in England “for a week." He arrived on Sunday April 11, which presumably means he'll be flying back to California on April 18.
Unfortunately, Harry won't be able to spend too much time with the royal family due to quarantining for a full five days ahead of Prince Philip's funeral on Saturday. But the royals hope that Harry and William have the opportunity to mend their rift.
As royal reporter Katie Nicholl told Entertainment Tonight, "There is every hope that this will be the beginning of the thawing of the rift between William and Harry," later adding "I think the feeling certainly amongst senior royals and those who know the royals well, is that this will be an opportunity for the brothers to be together, to spend some much-needed time together."
(Reminder of time/date of funeral omitted)
I wonder if he really is suffering separation anxiety? I imagine him behaving like a dog, yammering, howling, whimpering and clawing at the door to be let out.
Pathetic.
Good job he won't get much chance to talk to the rest of the family - or will we be told that he and Wills healed the rift by telepathy during the funeral service?
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Hi Cat. Thanks for posting my ask yesterday. I’d like to expand on it because some of the events of the last few months didn’t make sense at the time but they do now and they show how calculated and manipulative Harry has been leading up to Phillip’s death. People are cutting him some slack because of the bereavement but I really don’t think he deserves it.
So, a quick timeline recap:
Apr 2020: H&M (brattishly) leave the RF but COVID knocks their plans for world domination on their back.
Jan/Feb 2021: The end of the Megxit review period approaches - an ideal time to relaunch their brand, after a lacklustre year.
Feb 2021: 16th, Prince Phillip is admitted to hospital with an infection.
Feb 2021: (We now know that) all the RF are told that Prince Phillip is not long for the world and are invited to pay their respects. H chooses not to visit his grandfather. H also starts harrassing the palace to get Megxit wrapped up, way ahead of schedule. The Palace have no idea why, at this point (stories about this confusion and potential extensions emerge in the press at this time).
Feb 2021: Oprah interview filmed. Details of it leak. Palace subsequently removes Royal titles and patronages from H&M. Everything regarding these two and the Palace seems rushed in this period. Events and announcements appear to be reactiionary, rushed, unplanned.
Feb/Mar 2021: Many calls for the interview’s release to be postponed. MM’s ‘friend’ tells the press that MM feels the RF are using Prince Phillip’s poor health to ‘muzzle’ her.
Mar 2021: 7th, Interview is released. It contains many shocking / baseless exaggerations and lies, designed to smear the RF and cause maximum scandal. It acheives this aim on both sides of the Atlantic, with weeks of acrimonious fall out.
Mar 2021: 16th, Prince Philip leaves hospital after heart surgery, aware of the interview and aftermath.
Apr 2021: 9th. HMQ announces the passing of her huband HRH The Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh.
Now imagine if H&M had postponed the release of the interview ‘to spare Prince Phillip’s feelings’. There is no way they could then release it immediately after his death. The optics would be terrible. In this scenario, the release would have to be postponed for at least 6 months, to maintain any illusion of decency. MM is on a mission and that interview was key to raising her profile. H&M are already pretty irrelevant in LA and are becoming more so. In summary, she had to get the interview out before Prince Phillip’s death or it may never have seen the light of day.
A tell-all interview had been threatened for some time - by Tom Bradby and others. I assume it was pencilled in for just after the scheduled completion of Megxit (5-Apr-2021) - ie after they had gotten everything they could from the RF. That would have been logical timing, BUT I believe it was cynically brought forward BECAUSE OF the news that Prince Phillip was likely to pass in March or early April. I believe that news of Prince Phillip’s imminent demise triggered a scramble to produce and broadcast the interview as quickly as possible (they didn’t want to wait 6 months or more), which in turn forced Harry to push to get Megxit wrapped up ahead of the original end date.
Given the sad circumstances, both sides would normally have agreed an extension to the Megxit review. The Palace would have wanted space to concentrate solely on Prince Phillip’s care and likely funeral and a loving grandson would want to help them. At this point, the Palace had no idea about the interview. Harry however, did know about the interview and could not accept Megxit ending on time, let alone an extension. He knew that the interview was damaging and hurtful and would likely result in punishment; hence his need to wrap up Megxit BEFORE the interview became public knowledge. So, H pushed to bring the Megxit end date forward and con everything he could out of the RF before they found out - despite the additional burden it put on them at an already emotional time. He was only thwarted when ITV realised what was going on and alerted the Palace. All the while, H knew that his grandfather was nearing the end and his grandmother was preparing to face life without her partner of over 70 years.
The whole episode shows both H&M to be highly cynical, manipulative and extremely selfish. They knew Prince Phillip was seriously ill when they filmed the interview (apparently they had arrangements that its airing would be postponed in the event of his death). They made outrageous and baseless claims within it and STILL released it having been told that Prince Phillip only had a few weeks left to live. No matter that it would cause a dying man and his family great upset. They set out to destroy the institution and family that Harry’s loving grandfather had given his whole life to, and did so in his very last few weeks of life. All for a bit of PR.
The above is my own assessment of recent events. Harry, IMHO, deserves zero sympathy this week. He may have actively hastened Phillip’s death and he knowingly made things harder for the family in the period leading up to it. IMO He is scum and has I think, finally hit rock bottom. It is laughable that his brand is based on 'compassion’. I hope that Harry leaves after the funeral and never returns. I hope their brand and business fail appallingly and I seriously hope that any children they have are taken away from that narcissitic cow and her fuckwit of a husband. They deserve literally nothing but each other.
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I think that if there was some natural feature like the cave thing, it could be easily incorporated. I doubt that there would be something man-made. Too many people would be needed to work on it (potential to talk even way back when). It probably would not be in the direction of Frog Cottage if that area is as swampy as I remember the talk. Swampy area means water and water has the potential flood or create safety issues (damage to the rock eating away overhead).
helenaaurellia posted:
After his mother had been taken to a sanatorium and his father abandoned him to live with his mistress,Prince Phillip would move from relative to relative, never having a permanent home, living out of a suitcase. When it was the turn of his cousin Bertie to have him (otherwise known as George VI) a valet unpacking his suitcase found just two worn out and patched suits. The king had to lend him a dinner jacket, since Prince Philip didn’t own one.
When Prince Andrew of Greece died, he left his personal possessions to his son. Prince Philip took his fathers suits, had them altered to fit him, and wore them for years, thus doubling his wardrobe at a time when he could not afford to buy new clothing. (He also took a picture frame his father used to carry around a family photo. However he replaced the photo with one of Princess Elizabeth).
This habit of thrift remained with him even after he could afford to spend freely. After George VI’s death his suits were altered to fit Prince Philip. (This is an old family tradition. Edward VIII wore the suits of George V after he inherited them).
Also, in 2008 he sent a pair of trousers to his tailor to be fixed. They had been made for him in the 1950s. His waist had grown just 3 inches in over 50 years.
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I found this
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/prince-philip-has-his-51yearold-trousers-unpicked-and-restyled-into-the-latest-fashion-6826238.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14633437/meghan-markle-prince-philip-death-forgive-royal-family/
KISS & MEG UP Meghan Markle ‘ready to forgive’ Royal Family after Prince Philip’s death and ‘wants to put differences aside’
Just checked - there is no article like this on the MoS/ DM site as I just looked over the MM tab. WTH??
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Prince Philip has his 51-year-old trousers unpicked and restyled into the latest fashion
30 August 2008
As a belt-tightening exercise it takes some beating. The Duke of Edinburgh is keeping up with fashion by having trousers he had made 51 years ago altered to a modern cut.
Prince Philip has asked his Savile Row tailor to change a particularly favourite pair from the baggy style that was popular in the Fifties into something more contemporary.
The thrifty 87-year-old had the trousers produced as part of a bespoke suit in 1957. But now he wants them to chime with 21st Century tastes and has instructed John Kent – his personal cutter at tailors Norton & Sons – to straighten the legs.
Patrick Grant, one of the directors of the firm whose suits were worn by Lord Mountbatten and a young Winston Churchill, said the Prince wanted a ‘snappier’ look. ‘John has been making the Prince’s clothes for many years and has a Royal warrant,’ said Mr Grant.
‘About six weeks ago, the Prince sent him a pair of trousers that he wanted recutting to give a slimmer, more fashionable look.’
The original suit was made of a heavyweight worsted cloth, with a distinctive grey and brown herringbone stripe. Mr Grant said the seams had now been unpicked and resewn to narrow the legs.
Mr Grant added: ‘The Prince likes substantial cloth. He certainly gets plenty of wear out of all his clothes.’
Friends of Prince Philip said it was not unusual for him to keep favourite items of clothing for decades, repairing or altering them when necessary.
At naval events he is often seen in the same uniform that he wore at his wedding on November 20, 1947.
One friend said: ‘He is part of the thrifty wartime generation that never wastes anything. If he likes something, he doesn’t see the need to throw it away.
‘As he gets on for 90, he is still well dressed and up with the trends. But maybe family members have been ragging him about his baggy trousers and he has finally decided to get them changed.’
He added: ‘One of the most remarkable things is how he has managed to maintain his waist size when most of us have seen it expand.’
Although it is long after his days as a youthful and debonair naval officer, the Prince is still praised by fashion experts for his impeccable taste. In the latest list of the best-dressed men in Britain, compiled earlier this year by GQ magazine, he appeared at number 33, beating the likes of Hugh Grant.
Buckingham Palace declined to comment, saying it was a personal matter for the Prince.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9466553/Prince-Philips-commitment-Commonwealth-pictures.html
Thank you for the link.
There's a wonderful comment to the article, that I am copy pasting here.
Linnea., Stockholm, Sweden, about an hour ago
Nice photos. Prince Philip has also been to Sweden many times as his aunt Louise was the Queen of Sweden back in the day. She was quite private so the only phoros are from his official state visits. You always hear about Louis mountbatten but his aunt Louise also doted on philip as she sadly could not have children of her own. She had a huge influence on prince philip as she took him under her wing and I even suspect prince edward named his daughter after her as he is a frequent visitor to scandinavia. Queen Louise was very loved by the swedish people. She had the same fierce can do/no fuss attitude like prince philip. She nursed wounded soilders in WW1 & she impressed Charles De Gaulle so much that he attended her memorial service at the swedish church in Paris which he didn't do for any other royal. She would have been so proud of prince philip and his service. I hope they are reunited now. Rest in peace. x