May the discussion continue.
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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It works for me!!
I'd have preferred the Yorkie's husbands being left out so a blood relative or The Duke's secretary could attend, but I suppose one could say the same about Penny.
I think it's possible Peter might have come by his place between The Brothers Grim honestly, him being the eldest grandchild, and the one I'd always heard was HM's favorite, but it's far more likely that he's there to keep William's hands from Harry's throat.
I don't understand why anyone who was entitled to wear a uniform didn't get to wear one, barring Andrew's Admiral get-up ( but the rank he was entitled to would have been fine imo). And that does include Harry, if his service allowed it. Not his ceremonial uniforms, but if he was entitled to wear something, why not let him?
Also want to say a quick thank you again to all of you who post articles, and such insightful comments.
I suggested not using their real names a couple of weeks ago, but nobody got the point. I'm so glad that Lady C had the same thought. If we don't use their names or titles, it takes away their power. Their names are the only real power that they have, and if we continue to post that we will not be using their names, hopefully other people will catch on, too.
I've been reading along here, but just haven't had the urge to get into more discussion about them. It only gives them what they want- more people talking about them, even if it's in a negative way.
Not using their names or titles is also an online way of us turning our backs on them, as they have done to the public so many times.
Just bolsters my feeling that his wife was merely the spark that set off the ugly rage inside him.
@jersey girl,
I suggested not using their real names a couple of weeks ago, but nobody got the point. I'm so glad that Lady C had the same thought. If we don't use their names or titles, it takes away their power. Their names are the only real power that they have, and if we continue to post that we will not be using their names, hopefully other people will catch on, too.
I've been reading along here, but just haven't had the urge to get into more discussion about them. It only gives them what they want- more people talking about them, even if it's in a negative way.
Not using their names or titles is also an online way of us turning our backs on them, as they have done to the public so many times.
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I just naturally stopped using her name a couple of years ago. I'm so glad none of my grandchildren were girls and having that name as a possibility, lol. If I never hear it again would be too soon for me.
I posted a lot of comments here today because Ava C brought up JFK Jr. But in the past few days I've kept my opinions to myself as an American, a Royalist American. But out of respect for all who are mourning this huge loss of Prince Philip.
I learned so much about him this week and what a amazing yet tragic life he lived. He rose above all that befell him as a young child growing up. He married the love of his life and in all respects he was a man's man. Loyal and devoted to family, the country, and the Queen.
I can't even imagine the pain the Queen is in at the biggest loss of her life. So sad to me knowing he's gone forever from her life. I hope she's a strong woman and goes on to rule for years to come.
I don't remember seeing your comment about not using their names thereby losing their power, but it happened only today that I saw it thought yes, yes, yes. I too hope it catches on. Not acknowledging her will kill her.
@Humor Me
I think you're right. More going on behind the scene and we just don't know the full story, we may never no either.
Either way, once they learned there was going to be a total ban on uniforms I don't know why the pair of them didn't tell QEII that they didn't mind wearing suits and to allow everyone else to wear their uniforms. Making this decision to have all wear suits to a WWII hero and military man's funeral seems drastic and leaves the public with even more of a bad opinion of A and H.
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@KCM1212
Yes, I'm definitely saving the O and G comments. I spent too much time on them. I'm also going to keep an eye on their social media to see how the 'markling' continues down the road!🤣
Isn't that weird about Tom Bradby getting the job of covering the funeral? I wonder if that was the genesis of the rumor about him.
It is disappointing attendees are limited as one bright note of a funeral is afterward at meal everyone coming up to you sharing obscure stories, humorous interactions..
I do hope HM is aware of how beloved Prince Philip was to not only those who knew him, but those like me , who respected him from afar. So many great stories have been shared. Thanks also to poster who shared dinner link, PP eating with his hands. He certainly was a special man.
I've always called them The Harkles or Harry and MM, but I'm not doing that anymore. Not Dumbarton, either. Just "him" or "her."
Remove their names, and you remove their power. They have nothing else. I'm glad you're doing the same. I hope others follow your lead. If the BRF won't "erase" them, then we will!
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I am appalled that he and Andrew are being so petty about the uniforms. The Queen needs her family to support her during the most difficult time in her life, and these two bozos are fighting about wearing uniforms? How rude and heartbreaking for The Queen, a 94 year old woman who has devoted her life to service to country and the Commonwealth. To me, that's pure emotional abuse of an elder, nearly criminal.
Apologies, a long day here. I did see your amazing list postings of the G and O comments. Thank you so much for pasting them here, because it was heartening to see that others have their eyes open! People are seeing through the nonsense at last, and also seeing these two tv divas, O and G, for what they are — smug, plumped up tricksters with agendas, but without accountability for their actions.
They are on the way to being Markled too.
I like both Eugenie and Beatrice, but if I were their husbands, I would give up my spot, like Boris Johnson did, so someone closer to Philip could be invited.
I agree with you. I was very surprised that they were invited. Pressure from Andrew??
Yes....I heard that as well, the new commanding officer had no time to indulge a spoiled toddler soldier, plus that would be bad for morale and even quite dangerous if he was an unprepared soldier. You may be right that this is where his “but I am H” righteous snotty behavior was sealed into the marrow.
I see so many parallels between Courtney Love and Meghan- Kurt & Courtney even interviews Courtney's father Hank who definitely made me think of Thomas Markle. It's an interesting watch and I recommend both movies.
There's also a good one called Sad Vacation about Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungeon.
Courtney was definitely Nancy 2.0; both of them toxic succubi. And I see Meghan as the 3.0. Time will tell if Harry meets the same premature death as Sid & Kurt, but I know none of us would be surprised.
@Petunia
I like both Eugenie and Beatrice, but if I were their husbands, I would give up my spot, like Boris Johnson did, so someone closer to Philip could be invited.
I agree with you. I was very surprised that they were invited. Pressure from Andrew??
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@Petunia and Rebecca
I agree with you too and was also surprised they were included in the 30. They were NOT on the original list the palace released earlier in the week. They haven't been in the family that long and appear to have usurped Philip's Mountbatten relatives and/or Prince and Princess Michael - all family that has known Philip for most of his life or at least many decades.
And I too thought the switch to include them was due to Andrew's insistence.🙄
'Harry and Andrew squabbling about funeral fancy dress is what you expect from Kardashians'
The Queen has lost her husband of 73 years, Prince Philip, and has now had to intervene in what his son and grandson wear to his funeral
The Queen’s whole life has been about duty. Putting personal feelings to one side, doing what is expected of her, stoically, constantly, without a murmur of complaint.
And yet, even she must have been stifling an eye-roll, struggling to hold in a “Really?” when she was dragged into a petty row about outfits this week.
Squabbling over who wears what to a funeral is more what you’d expect from the Kardashians rather than the Windsors. And yet, here one is.
The Queen has just lost her husband of 73 years, and was back at work four days later.
She faces the ordeal of a public funeral when surely, if she had any choice in the matter, common sense decrees that she would prefer to say goodbye to Prince Phillip in private, without the eyes of the world on her.
However, duty before self. And so, as always, on she will undoubtedly go.
Meanwhile, stage left, Prince Harry – who had to give up his honorary military titles post Megxit – reportedly let it be known that he still wanted to wear the Blues and Royals dress uniform to the funeral.
He was last seen in this on his wedding day, proving that he’s learnt nothing about the fashion faux pas of outfit repeating from his stylish wife, but let’s not focus on that now.
If Harry was banned from wearing this, because he technically no longer had the right to, he would be the only senior royal not in uniform. He would stand out like an even sorer thumb than he’s going to anyway. Awks.
And then, taking awks to a whole new level, the problem of Andrew. He’s stepped back from public duties, but not officially been stripped of any military titles.
r given an interview to the FBI, despite multiple requests, according to New York state attorney Geoffrey Berman. The rank that Andrew had reached in the Navy when he retired in 2001 was Commander.
He was made an honorary Vice-Admiral in 2015 and was due to be made a full honorary Admiral on his 60th birthday in 2020, but obviously those plans were quickly shelved.
So what did Andrew reportedly want to wear to his father’s funeral on Saturday? The full Admiral get up.
A position he hadn’t earned, even honorarily. It would make just as much sense for him to rock up in a Superman costume, or an Elsa from Frozen dress.
And so, the poor old Queen apparently had to step in. She is said to have made the decision that no royals will wear military uniform “in order to present a united family front”.
Now the male royals will be wearing mourning suits, so they will look like the Men In Black. Maybe they will have those memory erasing sticks, too. Let’s hope so.
Despite the Queen’s very best efforts, that’s the only way anyone would believe this family is united.
Leilani from Barbados is very cute, she has great energy, and she is on the cusp of Seeing Her for What She Really Is.
I watched the one on the Oprah interview.
It was really interesting what she picked up on and how she changed her mind.
Great suggestion! Thanks!
In keeping with the call to strip the maleficent Montecito morons of their names, henceforth I will be calling them TS3: Toxic Succubus 3.0. For the ersatz Royal 36 year old man-baby, I’m just going with WPOS. W for Worthless and you can guess the rest.
This is not the future anyone saw for WPOS when his mother was alive. He is a waste of oxygen. She pollutes everything she touches. They have made the world uglier because they exist. May God preserve the Queen and all those who remain faithful to her. The loss of her rock must be even sadder with all the fighting among her family. She, and those who are the future of the monarchy, are in my prayers.
Thanks for the Polly Hudson piece in the Mirror. I wish that Harry and Andrew would be embarrassed about all the negative press coverage aimed at them, but I doubt they feel any remorse at all. The pair of them are dead weight hung around the increasingly fragile neck of the Monarchy. I wish to God Charles would convince the Queen that she needs to cast them off permanently in order to ensure that William will one day be able to fulfill his destiny as King.
"Thanks for the Polly Hudson piece in the Mirror. I wish that Harry and Andrew would be embarrassed about all the negative press coverage aimed at them, but I doubt they feel any remorse at all. The pair of them are dead weight hung around the increasingly fragile neck of the Monarchy. I wish to God Charles would convince the Queen that she needs to cast them off permanently in order to ensure that William will one day be able to fulfill his destiny as King."
Elegant summary Rebecca.
I love the idea of no names. It's grey rocking, isn't it? It will drive her mad.
I wonder how much of the uniform mess was the wife. Hissing into his ear that if he can wear his uniform to the funeral, he can wear it at TOC or Remembrance Day. And ultimately, the military titles back! "You're entitled" She whispers "They shouldnt have taken the titles, you earned them"
And "oh yeah, we need them. Dont come home without those titles. And your cut of Philips estate."
1. Including the husbands of Eugenie and Beatrice: my first reaction was the same, that they should give up their spots to make room for people who have been "in" longer, or who are closer to Philip and the Queen. Then I had a second thought: perhaps this is our first sign, and a bigger sign to H, that these two young couples will in fact be drafted in as young working royals to help handle the load. William and Catherine are senior and throne-bound, but as parents of a young family, could probably use more workplace help. Eugenie has shown herself to be excellent at this on her own, and Jack seems lovely. So perhaps this funeral is also our first look at the next official BRF working generation. Charles may wish to "slim down" the monarchy but there are a lot of ribbons to cut and boards to take part in, and William may have said to him something must be done. Remember the stories that when H and M first bolted, Catherine and William were dismayed because they had counted on the help of They Who Shall Not Be Named?
2. Ah, I am smiling like a cream-satiated cat, thinking of Mike Tindall with his eyes on the sulky H and fed-up William, and his rugger fists ready to fly. Peter too -- my guess is that a son raised by Anne isn't going to be a shy flower. Brilliant move on the part of the Queen. Why should William have to deal alone with the emotional loss of his grandfather he actually cared about, with the weight of the ever-approaching king-dom-role certainly on his mind, all while H is elbowing, bristling or muttering? Nope!!! Put someone sane and tough between them, around them, to keep H to the rear. Perfect. I have a fondness for Mike TIndall, who seems like a cheery bloke, no one's fool, a great husband and father, and who stepped into the family with a strong sense of self and has done well with it. Mike and Zara and Anne are the royals I'd most like to have a pint with! Mike has that physical size and sport-built muscular "don't F w me" strength too, and often reminds me of Mr AnT. I know what H would be facing if he decided to act up at a funeral and Mr AnT was watching, and it wouldn't be pretty. So I have faith in Mike. He can jolly H out of a funk, or haul him off his feet to the dungeon. Either way, H will be marched like a child with a minder. And William will be safe.
Wow, perfect!! Remember that one. We need to use it more.
I'll bet some are gathering to watch the streaming video together, while lifting a pint in Philips honor.
Apparently the streaming video is sans the commentary we will have to wade through.
"family adder"=beautiful!
May I echo @KCM1212's sentiments: what you wrote about the Polly Hudson piece, and H and A, is so beautifully said. Indeed, they are a "dead weight around the increasingly fragile neck of the Monarchy"...
I will think of this vivid phrasing any time I see either of them.
Adding to my TS3 and WPOS, ‘TWSNBN’ for when the twin disasters are a unit in their magical mushroom kingdom of FFS-land, pop.: 2.
1. There is an ongoing investigation and PA needs to do his part and tell investigators what he knows, because there are many victims of the Epstein saga. who deserve closure. His doting fatherhood or son duties have nothing to do with this. Even if he is not a criminally implicated, he needs to say what he knows. A man who wants to strut around in an Admiral's uniform should have the balls to answer questions. Because this case is enormous.
2. There are more than a couple of unfortunate photos. PA had GM and JE to his home, to his daughter's teen birthday party of all things, and let them sit on the throne. This was a relationship that lasted years. If he is innocent, fine, but he knows things that could and should be shared, be it about victims or cash. His years of tightness with GM is nothing to sweep away.
3. I definitely think others, Americans, should be pursued and questioned in the same manner PA is being pursued. There are certainly those who may know even more than PA and have dirtier hands. It may be they think PA is the key to getting those other big fish, if he talks and names names. I don't know. But just because there are others who did the same or worse with JE, and must be pursued, doesn't absolve PA.
4. PA isn't entitled to wear an Admiral's uniform, never earned the rank, got it as a 60th birthday prezzie. How ridiculous for a grown man of six decades to even want a title and uniform he didn't earn! Anyway he agree NOT to wear it until he'd cleared his name. He hasn't bothered to clear his name, so, no uniform.
5. PA has had fingers in many a sketchy financial deal. So yes, his knowledge of the Epstein finances is probably important.
LOL!!! oh, love it. "FFS-land: pop. 2" made me screech-laugh just now
I love that WPOS (Worthless POS) name you gave H. 🥰😜😜 And so he will be referred as WPOS from hereon.
The after talk and fallout will be interesting from the Megsy side of this equation. Her propaganda machine will be running full tilt as soon as Harry is back in Montecito with his controller. H might already have his return ticket booked, so he can say to Charles that he is already committed to getting back to his new home ASAP.
If anyone could hack the frantic communications between H and M this week... What a treasure trove of crazy on top of crazy this would be.
@JennS,
Including the husbands of Eugenie and Beatrice: my first reaction was the same, that they should give up their spots to make room for people who have been "in" longer, or who are closer to Philip and the Queen. Then I had a second thought: perhaps this is our first sign, and a bigger sign to H, that these two young couples will in fact be drafted in as young working royals to help handle the load.
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@AnT
I had the exact same idea about the RF possibly wanting to give the York husbands some attention due to planning to incorporate them along with their wives into part of the working force - perhaps part-time?! It makes sense considering they are short-handed.
I too like Anne and her children....I think Peter is nice looking - the best looking man in the family. I've been thinking some more about how he will walk IN BETWEEN the brothers. The media is not saying that the brothers and their cousin will walk together, they are instead making a very specific point that he will be placed between them. I'm thinking Harry and William's relationship is in very very poor shape right now.
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I feel that the reason why the 2 new in-laws are part of the 30 is to show the WPOS and his wife that those married in can become their dearly beloved. It reflects how unsuitable the wife of the WPOS is. Also, it shows that the royal family is not mainly a bunch or elderlies. Noone can call them antiquated.
The no-uniform policy may be a good move too. Harry isn't entitled to wear one, but if he were the only one not in uniform, that would give the megalomaniac grounds for whining. I wonder when Harry's flight leaves? FlightAware has no non-stop lights from LHR to LAX late enough in the day for him to make it after the funeral, but American Anirlines has two at 11:00 a.m. the next day, and Virgin has one at 8:05 a.m.
Ooh, that is a brilliant deduction.You may be right. WPOS will be faced with a load of secure young married-ins having happier lives. Even one from Italy, where Megs’ beloved wine is created, and where some acting coworkers thought Megs was created.
And though Autumn and Peter separated, she still lives (separately) at Gatcombe Park where they are raising their daughters.
I absolutely love the WPOS title and will heretofore refer to they who shall not be named in this way.
(In my head I say "waa-pose" and it just works!)
I'll fill my Mom in on this as we love to sh*t talk the FKA harkles. ;)
perhaps this is our first sign, and a bigger sign to H, that these two young couples will in fact be drafted in as young working royals to help handle the load.
That is a very good point.
@KCM1212
@AnT
Thank you very much! It means alot coming from you.
I think the relationship between the brothers is now a non-relationship. The press about how WPOS called William to say they should “Park their problems” until after the funeral is such laughable corporate-speak, probably straight from using the BetterUp glossary of terms. Another load of press release fakery to make WPOS look like the calm diplomatic healer caring about granny and the solemn occasion —— but whoops, he was actually having his tantrum over what to wear as we now know.
I am sure WIlliam is sick of these press games, sick of his wife being dragged by the WPOS-ess, sick of being accused of racism by a ragged harridan who lied, played with foundation funds, bullied people, has a fake kid and had zero intentions of staying no matter how much money she was given. William won’t forgive or forget. Now with this uniform business and the WPOS-ess offering to “forgive” the royals.....I think WPOS is dead to William. Mike and Peter will help block the view and the stench of the traitor WPOS on Saturday.
@JennS
I feel that the reason why the 2 new in-laws are part of the 30 is to show the WPOS and his wife that those married in can become their dearly beloved. It reflects how unsuitable the wife of the WPOS is. Also, it shows that the royal family is not mainly a bunch or elderlies. Noone can call them antiquated.
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@Natalier
Oh that's a good point too! Let's them rub it in as much as possible! We have other multiple married-ins who did not try to take down the monarchy! I wonder what MM has planned for the next couple of days - should be interesting. I have a feeling Gayle may check in on her at some point - if not while she's covering the funeral then maybe on her morning show. Oprah is promoting the Harkles on her Instagram account and in her magazine.
I like your WPOS for you know who. As for his wife, The Claw is a good possibility.
Thank you Nutties 😘
Great comments/articles and wit,
much to devour, loving WPOS!!
Surprised Duchess of Gloucester
isn’t part of the ‘30’
Didn’t expect Duchess of Kent to attend,
she looked very frail at Eugenie’s wedding.
Chilly atmosphere, Wills should lend his scarf
to the Queen, help ward off WPOS!!
@Jocelyn
WPOS wife, how about FAFF
Failed Actress Failed Families?
That's a good one!
Spare Parts at a Funeral
‘arry and Andy, what a pair
Uniform traits, of those born spare
Both in need of a dressing down
From those in charge of the Crown
They deserve a good slap in the face
From the Queen’s velvet glove
Aided by Phil, from above
These f..kwits are a sodding disgrace!
@Jocelyn
Or MAFS, Married ‘arry For Shill
I was expecting to see Lady Pamela Hicks whom Philip and The Queen are close to, and to name one blood relative.
It must have been a complete nightmare for The Queen to put together such a tiny list of attendees, especially knowing Philip who had such an immense reputation had met, affected and knew so many individuals throughout his long life.
thinking of Mike Tindall with his eyes on the sulky H and fed-up William, and his rugger fists ready to fly. Peter too
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Peter used to play rugby for Scotlandwhen he was at school (Gordonstoun). He has played as a junior international for the Scottish Schools team and in 1996 toured South Africa with the full Scottish rugby team.
So Mike's got help if needed.
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@SwampWoman
'Adder' is good but personally, I prefer viper 🐍. Adder is just a snake (certainly appropriate here) but the definition of viper, as well as a type of snake, is 'a malicious or treacherous person' - or both in MM's case. Anyway, I'm sure your part of Florida must be teeming with snakes more poisonous than an adder. Any names?
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Incidentally, in the past several days I have used 'MM' instead of other names quite a bit. I can't even look at her face/listen to her voice and now I find I don't particularly want to use her other nicknames. I think TF or 2F will do - two faced.
You'll have to change that avatar. I always recoil in horror when I see that face!😱
It must have been a complete nightmare for The Queen to put together such a tiny list of attendees, especially knowing Philip who had such an immense reputation had met, affected and knew so many individuals throughout his long life'
This^
HMTQ certainly doesn't need this from Jeremy Vine
TV presenter said: 'I'm imagining it will be thirty people who are white'Jeremy Vine asked guest on show whether she thought it would be a 'problem' Footage of the exchange has been circulated widely on social media todayIt follows BBC receiving 109,741 complaints over amount of coverage on Duke
Jeremy Vine has been blasted for turning Prince Philip's funeral into a 'race issue' by pointing out that all the guests are white.
The Channel 5 TV host, 55, asked a guest on his show whether she thought it was a 'problem' that all 30 attendees would be white at the Windsor Castle service which will be held on Saturday afternoon.
Jeremy Vine is blasted for turning Prince Philip's funeral into 'race issue' by pointing out that all the guests are white - as Andrew Marr apologises for using the phrase 'Indian bride' after 100,000 complain about BBC coverage of Duke's death
In the clip, Vine says: 'We are going to see a group of 30 people who are going to be at this very restricted funeral, and I'm imagining it will be 30 people who are white.
'I'm just trying to think whether there's anybody of colour in there and I don't think so. Do you think that's a problem?'
Social media users reacted to the interview, with one saying: 'I am genuinely staggered at this statement from Jeremy Vine. It's pure race baiting.'
Another wrote: 'Jeremy Vine is cancelled
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9475465/amp/Jeremy-Vine-blasted-turning-Prince-Philips-funeral-race-issue.html
Carter USM - After The Watershed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dqC7B4kS4
Exhibit F, the reporters said
Loved you to death after the watershed (referencing her alleged NSFW films)
Between the Open University and closedown
You were dead
He's warmed your cockles with his magic tricks
Glasses, bottles, bottles, filter tips
John Player Special
Number 666
Exhibit G from the family firm
His bride to be taking twisted turns
To give you French kisses
And Chinese burns
You see, she'd had a skinful and she couldn't stop
Like a pitbull in a china shop
This line cracks me up every time:
And David Icke says
Goodbye, you silly cow
And while I'm sharing obscure 90s songs, this one also could be about them. I'm put in mind of when they tried copyrighting a wide range of random items for one of their "foundations" (or whatever it was).
Carter USM - Shopper's Paradise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44rPjA0vhaI
My favourite bit - I have to chuckle because it describes the two inhabitants of head office perfectly:
Top floor Shoppers' Paradise
We've got a drunk Father Christmas and the Anti-Christ
There's nothing of value, there's no V.A.T.
@Raspberry
I’m surprised Pamela Hicks wasn’t invited.
Isn’t she Prince Philips cousin?
Having said that, I think she’s in her nineties?
beautiful looking woman.
@Maneki
Sorry for repulsing you, I’ll change it,
hard to find a nice photo of her!!
Sorry, I was only joking, I would never ask anyone to change their avatar but what a repulsive photo! As if we couldn't be more repulsed!
There are no nice photos of her
Pall Maul/Pallmoral
Haz will be flanked by cousin Peter
Tackled, and placed, as a beta
If he goes for a try
Breaks the scrum
Runs for Grand-mum
He’ll find that Mike kicks him
sky high
@Maneki
I was due a change 😉
In drifting about the internet yesterday I came upon a story about the Queen posting photos of royal relatives Charles had sidelined (such as Alexandra) and it was taken as a sign the Queen was by necessity veering away from the slimmed-down monarchy, now the Sussexes have made it unworkable. I wonder if the Queen's remaining years will be devoted to a last-minute reset? Firmly establishing the Wessexes being a major part of that. Charles can't keep being allowed to back the wrong horses.
Prince Charles looks hollowed out by grief. He's not going to just snap back is he? He has a huge amount to cope with. The disaster of his first marriage rocked the Windsors to their foundations and now his younger son is doing the same. Who would want to be in his shoes? He also has complex grief to cope with, which is exhausting. Camilla looks as if she fully realises what a crossroads they have reached, and they both look so tired. So tired.
I expect many other Nutties remember that wedding day ten years ago, when the Middleton family did such an excellent job. They didn't put a foot wrong. Across the board excellence. It felt like they were bolstering everything for the future. Like strong canvas backing for a rather fragile old tapestry. Well we weren't wrong. Now we really thank our stars for Catherine and the young Cambridge line. She, unlike the Sussexes, has delivered. Literally!
Inglorious Bastards
A sad state of affairs
For Charles, and his heirs
Not to mention the hurt
to the Queen
Through their vile deeds
Haz and Andy, bad seeds
They’ve caused so much strife,
it’s obscene
I don't know where you found that photo but I like the tiara and the 🇸🇦earrings 😆
For example, some people could be ill or feeling under the weather. In the old days, one would grit one's teeth and go come hell or high water. But that's changed (or should have) with COVID regardless of plans for social distancing. Even someone with bad spring allergies causing sneezing and coughing might think twice about going to a public event (with multiple senior citizens) these days.
Others may have declined to give someone else a place but haven't announced that. (It made sense for BJ to make that announcement but perhaps not for others.) Last, invitees might have private reasons for declining. For example, attending alone might have been too much for 91-year old Pamela Hicks but no need for that information to be shared with the public.
@Maneki
Hahaha, earrings are tarnished,
much like madam!! Tiara courtesy
of Claire’s 😉
Whole photo nicked from another site?
God Save the Queen
I cannot imagine
what the Queen must be feeling
As she prepares to farewell her mainstay
It can’t have been easy
To let go, to release him
She’s now left alone
to hold sway
Neither Andrew nor HPOS got their own way, even if the others had to cut their own noses to do it.
I wonder if putting Peter between the brothers was just to reduce embarrassment or if they think there's a real risk of William duffing him up afterwards, round the back of the chapel, if he says something outrageous?
Prince Charles looks hollowed out by grief. He's not going to just snap back is he? He has a huge amount to cope with. The disaster of his first marriage rocked the Windsors to their foundations and now his younger son is doing the same. Who would want to be in his shoes? He also has complex grief to cope with, which is exhausting. Camilla looks as if she fully realises what a crossroads they have reached, and they both look so tired. So tired.
If Charles is almost a basket case, then he should stay with the Cambridges for a month. He will be revitalized by seeing their children running around without a care. Showing that life goes on, the Monarchy continues, and that he must stay strong for the incoming generations, including Wills and Katherine.
I also was always suspicious of Charles' slimmed down monarchy. He should have known Haz was enough of a flake to ruin this, to run off with some floozy. Slimmed down was his indirect way of sabotaging Andrew and his lovely, loyal daughters. All because Charles and Andrew dislike each other. An ego-tripping blunder by Charles.
As sadly as Charles looks now, he will be OK in a few months. Good that is now Spring, the season of new growth for all.
@Lurking
Your mum is right, never thought of
it that way, spot on.
So very sorry for your loss X
She's got everyone tuned to her frequency -- see what poison she's brought to your shores.
I’m surprised Pamela Hicks wasn’t invited.
Isn’t she Prince Philips cousin?
Having said that, I think she’s in her nineties?
beautiful looking woman.
Yes she’s Philip’s cousin, she’s the remaining daughter of Louis Mountbatten, Philip’s Uncle. Her older sister Patricia (whom I personally couldn’t stand) couldn’t be more different from the lovely Pamela.
@ Lizzie re why Pamela isn’t one of the 30 invited.
Yes, it’s absolutely possible she declined the invitation due to her age. I wonder whether the new Countess of Burma (formally Lady Penny Brabourne who is in attendance) is representing the Mountbatten family and/or another reason why Pamela isn’t going?
I also wonder due to the limited number being able to attend the funeral, whether there will be other groups of close family and friends who will be able to pay their final due respects to Philip, before he’s finally laid to rest.
I have to say also that when I see royals dressed in military uniforms to which in any real sense they are not entitled (other than by reason of their social rank) they always look to me as if they are part of the chorus of a Sullivan or Romberg operetta that is to say ridiculous
Tomorrow however they will continue to look ridiculous with their face nappies and socialist distancing. The winter flu is over and the Queen needs to give Bojo a bollocking. My view is: thank god for the Middletons thus showing the superiority of the middle-class over the Upper and over the Walmart Princess.
Re: HMTQ certainly doesn't need this from Jeremy Vine....
He’s a horrible man, he’s come out with some gaffes over the years, but this is the worse one yet. Yes, he’s long overdue to be cancelled! .
Charles wanted a slimmed down monarchy, but I don’t think he wanted it to get this slim. With Harry and his wife out, the future of the monarchy is only the Cambridge family. That’s a lot of work for one little family.
"Frankly at that age I would skip all funerals and only go to bday parties where there is cake."
LOL, Snarky
That is as good a philosophy as I have ever heard!
Thanks for the chuckle
PART 1
In a dark side room at Windsor, a newly-arrived WPOS stood alone, looking peevishly around the empty gloom, one eye twitching. "So, oi, someone, where's my uniform, then?" he muttered, kicking a table leg. "Where's my dresser, and the drinks tray? They told me to be here at 7 AM and it's 9."
At that moment, three figures loomed up from a shadowy corner. Tindall, Peter, and Jack. Dressed in black mourning clothes, they gazed at the suddenly flustered WPOS with cold eyes, and approached.
"Who said you lot could be here?" WPOS demanded. "Do you remember who I am! The people's prince! HM's favorite! You should bow by the way! I said, bow! Bring my uniform, dress me, and bow!!"
"Shut it up, Six. I called this meeting," said a surprisingly husky little voice, and from behind a chair, Charlotte emerged wearing small brushed black coat and an icy frown.
WPOS stared, then laughed cruelly. "Is this some joke? Go home you brat!"
Charlotte walked closer and stared up at her uncle. "You look a mess, you smell, your hair is stupid, and I outrank you, Six. I'm Four, the Enforcer you've heard about. You bow to me. They don't bow unless I say so." She looked him up, and down, and shooked her glossy neatly combed head. "You, wear a uniform? You, march with the boys? You, mean to mummy and gran gran? Take care of this, Uncle Mike, please and thank you."
PART 2
Tindall grabbed WPOD by the front of his rumpled sweat-stained old gray suit, and growled, "Argh, you puny little blighter, you rancid piece of rotting rabbit pizzle, you weedy rotten knock-toothed little bleeder, answer me this, then, if you want to march with us: How many fingers does a human newborn baby have?"
WPOS blanched. He went pale to the roots of his reseeded and dyed ginger scalp. His own sickly strained hands, dangling on bony, bitten wrists jutting from the fray ing ends of his shrunken wash'n'wear suit, curled into damp little fists. "....uh, uh, uh!" he bleated, his red eyes rolling wildly.
"Aye! How many, then?" hissed Jack Brooksbank, grabbing WPOS by the scruff of the neck with one surprisingly muscular hand and arm kept well fit by lifting endless cases of luxury tequila into parties and Fergie's bathroom. "How many do they have, you ruddy flipping' little wanker! 'Oh look at me on tv, I'm the ginger people's prince, look at me dance in Holly bloody wood with my manly wigged hooker, ain't she a fine slag!" Jack added in a snarling high falsetto, lifting WPOS slightly off the ground with his powerful salesman fist and shaking him about like a ragdoll. Charlotte giggled. "Do it more, Uncle!" she laughed.
"Yah, thinks he's going to tap-dance into hizzoner'sfuneral, does he, with that little wet pout?" snarled Jack, shaking WPOS again.
"You make me sick, you little sobbing baby man!" intoned Tindall, releasing WPOS'd gray mustard-stained $295 suit so suddenly, that WPOS staggered backward into Jack, who punched him accidentally in the kidney, then did it again for good measure. "Ask me bride for money, will ya?" he hissed.
"Yer own kid's a plastic dummy, ain't it, and now, you are too," Tindall said. stopping back. He smoothed down his own tailored mourning coat, and adjusted his neckwear.
Charlotte is definitely the star of the Cambridge show. She takes in (drinks in everything going on around her) everything while her older brother seems fearful and a bit dazed. The Future King, Prince George must grow out of this and he will. Charlotte is always Charlotte forward. No wonder the wife of WPOS was jealous of her just before her wedding, to upset Catherine with some nasty arse MM behavior.
Oh no! White people, mostly relatives, attending a white person's funeral!! Whatever next?? Do African kings and dictators invite white people to their funerals and installations?
Yes, when the moon will turn into green cheese.
PART 3
"Buh buh buh! whined WPOS, trying to shrink into himself in terror. Charlotte frowned, stepped forward, and kicked him in the shin with the unexpectedly sharp toe of her polished little school shoe. "Baby! Liar! Big old stupidhead baby!" she said. "This is for the no tights at your stupid wedding and my foot blister, and for sending mummy a knife for Christmas, and for making granny sad and giving daddy headaches!" she said and kicked him hard in the balls. As he doubled over with a shriek she walked out of the room, calling over her shoulder, "Finish him, boys. The works, what gramps said do before he went to sleep."
Peter stood up from a chair. "There's something you need to see, old, man, before we decided if you walk with us today, or, even get to live." He pulled an envelope from his mourning coat, extracted some photos, and held them under WPOS's running nose.
"That second nanny you hired? Summer? It was Autumn, you idiot, working for Her Majesty ever since since your wife beat up the staff and locked you out of the bedroom she shares with Markus and her other pal, Omid-Jessica. Autumn took all these. You bloody stupid sardine's arse."
In one photo, WPOS's wife could be seen, bald except for scalp tattoos, laughing uproariously as Markus buckled a big cloth bump onto her square body. Other phtoos showed Omid-Jessica rolling on money with the WPOS-ess, and WPOS carrying a large plastic Archie doll by a leg, or shooting rescue chickens, and sitting with Oprah perusing a baby catalog. The seventh photo showing her striking WPOS with an oat milk ladle.
WPOS stared. "But she is my soulmate!" His pink eyes blazed with sudden rage. "She is my leader! She wants me to be in this funeral march for our reel, and I will be! She should be Queen! She is telling secrets on television to Gayle right now and you can't stop us, so, there!"
Tindall and Jack looked at Peter. Peter dropped the photos, seized WPOS's face, kissed his forehead and stepped back, nodding at Tindall, who nodded back. Jack went to moved something from the shadows with the help of a fourth figure.
"Where's my uniform! I want it now! now!" shouted WPOS. "What, wait, what is that big steel box for?"
"Gulag, pronto, pronto," said Edo, emerging from the gloom, and gliding up smoothly on silent leather shoes to click titanium cuffs around WPOS's wrists. "No more the Hollywood or march for you, no, no. You speak speak Russian? Oh no, it is the wife who is a language expert, yes? I hear she yell Daddy in flawless Greek, Arabic, and Chinese, hmm? Ah, don't cry, my cousin, your little Queen is on her way to join you there in your new Siberian paradise. Lots of work there! You can earn some money I think! Sorry, but, hey guy, you know, you're both just not okay. Your grandma, she says, bye bye."
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We thought we'd shed that kind of ostentation following WW1 - will we now have to employ a black mourner or two, if we don't happen to have any in the family? Just to demonstrate that we aren't racist?
Thanks for making my day! Laughed so hard at your parody.
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The in-fighting of who's going to wear what uniform to Prince Phillip's funeral is just tacky. Thank God Her Majesty the Queen is sensible. If I didn't know better I'd think that some members of the Royal Family were hillbillies. Or, as some like to call them, white trash. The Royal Family is just like other dysfunctional families, just with more money and better costumes.
Sadly, when emotions become predominant, it doesn't seem to matter what "class" is represented. People will fight over Momma's pearls whether they are real or fake. People will fight over dishes whether they are the finest China or from Walmart.
I have seen fistfights break out at funerals and it wasn't just among the trashy. I think the daggers will *really* be out after the Queen's demise unless Charles starts stomping some butts behind the scene ASAP.
Another poster interested in numerology posted something on number 9 and the date etc. some time last week, I think. I can't remember who it was.
Found it, thanks to another Nutty who mentioned 'find in page'. It was posted by @Curiously on 9 April at 5:03 pm.
Phoney Markle.
Phoney Anyone.
Nice photo of Edward Sophie and their daughter. i know their son is on the funeral list but it would have been good to have him there to so he can get used to all that will be happening tomorrow.
Am I bad that i am glad my hubby have to be out of the house tomorrow so i can watch the funeral. Hes anti H&M but hes not that big on the Royals in general and would likely have talked during the whole thing. Now to decided if I watch on online or on cable and who is going to get the nod.
I knew the Duke of Kent was the Grand Master. I’ve seen a few documentaries about the Freemasons and with him in it in all his gear. ;o)
There are plenty of groups whose members do help each other our on the quiet but whose influence isn't noticed. Masons and their families, though, are automatically under suspicion. There are whole areas of my life that I don't mention to my cousins, lest I elicit a sour response.
8 is the big best number in Chinese numerology. 4 is their unlucky number. Though.....
"number 9, though an odd number is gloriously among the lucky numbers." Didn't John Lennon keep repeating this number in a song. Prolly glommed onto via Yoko.
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Throughout the ex-Beatles' life the number nine popped up constantly, sometimes coincidentally or purposely. Ever since John Lennon was a boy the number nine followed him throughout his entire life. Some people have a lucky number. John Lennon has a number that follows him around, even beyond the grave.
How The Number 9 Followed John Lennon His Whole Life ...
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They were either too ill or old or both to continue.
It was revealed in 2013 that Alexandra developed polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR), an inflammation of the muscles that leads to stiffness and agonising pain, and would reduce her schedule considerably from then on out.
It's been getting progressively worse and she barely makes any public appearances no matter the occasion. It's always a surprise to see her at the occasional event because she is said to be very ill.
The Duke of Kent has been hospitalised on too many occasions with a series of strokes since 2013. Latest one was late 2020. He also had a serious hip injury in 2015 which put him out of commission for quite some time.
Frankly it's a miracle he's outlasted Philip because his health has been very bad since that stroke in 2013.
As we know, the Duchess of Kent opted out of royal life in 2002 and lives a quiet civilian life teaching music at a local school and is a piano teacher for hire. She pops up for royal occassions, but has kept to her determination to give up royal life and her HRH styling.
Duke and Duchess of Gloucester don't receive the attention the other members do, but they have been working quietly in the background for decades. They finally retired last year from front line duties, but they continue to carry out duties as needed.
The Michaels have never been working royals though they've represented The Queen occasionally.
I do agree with you that Charles was short-sighted in cutting out the York sisters because time was never on his side as far as the older generation of royals who should have been retired as soon as the younger ones reached maturity a decade ago.
He was also displaying his poor judgement in creating plans around Harry whilst knowing his poor character. Perhaps he thought he could be managed and or would mature out of his prolonged juvenile phase and or he would pick a good mate to add to the royal fold. Chelsy and Cressida looked good on paper which in turn might have blinded them into an assumption that whatever his faults, Harry would pick well in marriage.
I considered “666”, the Mark of the Beast, for She-Hulk. It surely fits so I may use it sometime, but AnT’s MWH—Manly Wigged Hooker—is pretty irresistible.
AnT,
Your WPOS Pre-funeral march scenario does Guy Ritchie proud? Who knew that Euge’s Jack was such a ruffian in the Queen’s service? Excellent.
Charlotte (HRH #4) is the Anne of her generation. I’m confident that the current sad state of affairs would not be happening if the Princess Royal was on deck to be Queen Anne in place of her brother. Charlotte appears to have many of those same qualities. What her WPOS uncle is doing to the equilibrium of her family and Daddy’s future is inexcusable.
Thank you nuttie's for sharing stories, feelings of loss to a great man. Even if one didn't know him in person, he was remarkable man who's loss is felt around the world.
Whatever her name, shot her political chances down this week. When former PressFirst claim Dr said no flying other than the norm drugs used? Then not coming as it would take away the focus of PP, that caused the DM comments almost almost broke the net 😆😂.
That (California) Condor poop dress was probably for PP funeral. Since whatever her name was told it would not be allowed to funeral she wore it to interview since it had to be merched.
There will be some karma thrown towards what's his name. No surprise he had tantrums about uniform. His whatever needs those pics. Was surprised about PA.I am trying to find a way to stream PP funeral. Nobody will hold his hand unless he tries to get near a senior royal. The royals have enviable ways to snark with class.
It's better no uniforms I guess. But I did enjoy the thought of real royals wearing their uniforms and seeing whatever his name and PA in suits at the back behind with other non working royals. It's good to know whatever his name will be kept away from the senior royals.
It's sad Charles cannot get his boy shitcan from funeral or quit enable whatever their names. Otherwise I fear his reign will be all about those two.
".......WPOS blanched. He went pale to the roots of his reseeded and dyed ginger scalp..."
Roots of his reseeded ... dyed ginger scalp - that's brilliant! I hope WPOS and his viper somehow gets to read this.
I know that The Duke of Kent is their Grand master and that Michael is a member - they were photographed at a meeting years ago.
Growing up i was told about the Freemasons as some sort of grand conspiracy on a level of the illuminati and to be afraid of anyone associated with them, but their perceived power seemed to recede as they were parodied by numerous entertainments over time. Especially the secret hand shakes and silly clothes.
These days i'm not sure anyone takes them seriously as the deadly organisation they had been rumoured to be, but that reputation is purely superstition above all else.
These days i'm always surprised to find anyone who freely admits to membership because they aren't at the forefront of news anymore.
That said, outside of the realms of conspiracy and myth, they appear to be a longstanding men's club / union that grew out of a needed close association in earlier centuries which probably gave them power as a collective in the same way that a union gives workers power.
I have really been enjoying your transcripts! I hope you continue on as you are talented and thoroughly engaging. I was however prompted to fact check H's "mustard stained $295 suit" I thought for sure that was exaggerated as I had it around $120 in my head. Imagine my surprise (horror.) to come across this article.
LOL!
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a35756132/prince-harry-j-crew-ludlow-gray-suit-oprah-winfrey-interview/
I will concede to your amount as his suit was obviously purchased circa 1980. I kept reading for plug on the shoes. Never happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😋
Yikes!
Why William and Harry will not wear military uniform to Prince Philip’s funeral
Move – which breaks with centuries of royal tradition – made in order to present a united family front at Saturday's ceremony
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/04/15/royal-family-will-not-wear-military-uniform-prince-philips-funeral/
Camilla Tominey, ASSOCIATE EDITOR
16 April 2021 • 5:06pm
Part 1
Members of the Royal family will not wear military uniform at the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral after the Queen decreed that they should don morning coats with medals or day dress instead.
The move – which breaks with centuries of royal tradition – has been made in order to present a united family front at Saturday's carefully-choreographed ceremony at Windsor Castle.
The 94-year-old monarch's decision followed intense discussions over who should appear in uniform after the Duke of Sussex faced the prospect of being the only senior royal not in military dress despite twice seeing active service in Afghanistan.
A row had also broken out over the Duke of York's demand to go as an Admiral despite his promotion to that rank being deferred after he stepped back from public duties in November 2019 over his relationship with the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
A Buckingham Palace spokesman confirmed on Thursday: "Members of the Royal family will be wearing morning coat with medals or day dress. That’s to say, members of the Royal family will not be in military uniform.”
The spokesman added that "all the arrangements have been signed off by Her Majesty. That's all there is to say".
Courtiers had been concerned that Prince Harry – who was forced to give up his honorary military titles after he stepped back as a senior royal and moved to the US last year – would have been left embarrassed if he was not allowed to appear in uniform alongside relatives in military dress.
It is understood the former captain, 36, had wanted to wear the Blues and Royals dress uniform he wore on his wedding day in May 2018.
The issue was compounded when Prince Andrew, 61, who flew Royal Navy helicopters in the Falklands War, demanded to wear the uniform of an Admiral, having not been stripped of any of his military titles despite having stepped back from public duties for the "foreseeable future".
It is thought that the Queen resolved to spare Prince Harry any public humiliation by ordering everyone to dress the same – morning coats and black ties for the men, simple black outfits for the women.
On Thursday night, Christopher Joll, the regimental historian of the Household Cavalry, questioned whether the move was necessary, pointing out that as Colonel-in-Chief of the Blues and Royals, the Queen could have permitted Prince Harry to wear a uniform.
"He would have been perfectly entitled to wear his Blues and Royals uniform with the permission of his commanding officer, which in this case is the Queen," he said.
"He could have worn his No. 1 Dress ceremonial uniform rather than the frockcoat he wore to his wedding. At a ceremonial funeral, ceremonial dress is usually worn. In the end it's all down to the Queen – she is the fount of dress codes."
It is believed to be only the second time in more than a century that members of the Royal family have not worn uniform to the funeral of a monarch or their spouse.
Discussions on the issue reportedly went down to the wire, with senior aides including the Master of the Household, Vice-Admiral Tony Johnstone-Burt, trying to negotiate a solution.
It came after a close source to Prince Andrew said he would "do what is appropriate" and had no intention of distracting from his father's funeral, which will take place at St George's Chapel at 3pm.
The event is known as a royal ceremonial funeral, based on the one held 19 years ago for the Queen Mother, the wife of George VI, at Prince Philip’s specific request.
On that day in April 2002, all senior royals entitled to wear uniform did so, although they wore mourning dress to the private funeral of the Queen's sister Princess Margaret weeks earlier as well as at the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales, in 1997.
Are you thinking of "Inspector Morse" and spinoffs and "Line of Duty"? They (the Masons) still seem pretty terrifying in those settings! But maybe because they ARE safe to bring up now?
"Acquitaine - is charles hesitancy because he doesnt want another young woman to take away limelight like diana did...."
I don't think it's about any specific person taking his limelight.
He is always jealous about *anyone* taking away his limelight and has always acted selfishly and territorially about this. No one is allowed to outshine him.
On the plus side he has shown a remarkable and thoughtful public endeavour, but make no mistake, he's always happiest when he is the star of the show and has repeatedly and consistently sabotaged and ruined his family to make himself look better and or keep the spotlight on himself.
In many ways he is like his mother who comes out swinging if the monarchy is threatened, but in his case he comes out swinging if he feels he is threatened even if his actions destabilise the monarchy.
That's his archilles heel.
And this Sussex vs Cambridge feud is entirely his fault, but his silence and abscence from the results tells me that he benefits from it in some way and that is why he doesn't rein in his wayward son.
For all the reasons cited above (and then some) is precisely reason PA should not interview/speak with FBI. He is under ZERO legal obligation to consent. His behavior borders on criminal. If FBI really feels his input imperative let them subpoena him. Then he just pleads 5th ammendment.
In eyes of public does it make him creep? I leave that to public but from legal stand point he is doing absolutely as he should. Anything he says will surely be used against him. He really is innocent until proven guilty, and I have yet to see him charged with a crime.
Thank you for posting the article.
I feel, time and again, the Queen is making it clear this is a family right now, not the 'Firm' as the Diana cosplaying wife called it in the interview.
The article makes it clear, that if it serves a greater purpose in doing so, then tradition such as wearing of uniforms will be put aside by the family. That may serve as a guide for more important decisions to come.
With each passing day, H has lesser and lesser to take back to the wife - no dramatic pictures, no uniforms, perhaps no money. Of course Saturday will reveal the extent of it. Maybe it will make him pause to think about the other things he gets from Britain and his family there. Just maybe.
"@Acquitaine: " but their perceived power seemed to recede as they were parodied by numerous entertainments over time"
Are you thinking of "Inspector Morse" and spinoffs and "Line of Duty"? They (the Masons) still seem pretty terrifying in those settings! But maybe because they ARE safe to bring up now?"
I think some shows present them in terrifying ways and others take the piss eg Monty Python, Midsomer Murders, Hale and Pace etc
There was a time in the 90s when every comedy sketch show on tv had a silly Freemasons bit.
I wasn't a fan of Inspector Morse though i loved Lewis so i missed out on their presentation of the Freemasons.
And i think i'm the only person in UK who hasn't watched Line of Duty. Don't know why, because i love police procedurals.
It sounds like Harry asked to wear his uniform, and although the Queen was sensitive to Harry being the only one out of uniform she would not back down and allow him to do so.
Perhaps she might have considered it but at the same time, she had Andrew demanding that he wear his admiral's uniform - a new uniform that he had already asked his tailor to make.
I'm guessing that we would have seen Harry in a suit with all other military family men in uniform if it wasn't for Andrew's behavior.
Did you catch this part...
"Discussions on the issue reportedly went down to the wire, with senior aides including the Master of the Household, Vice-Admiral Tony Johnstone-Burt, trying to negotiate a solution.
It came after a close source to Prince Andrew said he would "do what is appropriate" and had no intention of distracting from his father's funeral,."
I think Andrew kicked up a huge fuss over his new admiral's uni!
If there were no problems with Andrew and no Epstein issues we might have had a funeral with all military men in uni except for poor poor Harry. I would have preferred to see that as it would strengthen Harry's new non-royal position.
(From the Telegraph article by Camilla Tominey) “Courtiers had been concerned that Prince Harry – who was forced to give up his honorary military titles after he stepped back as a senior royal and moved to the US last year – would have been left embarrassed if he was not allowed to appear in uniform alongside relatives in military dress.”
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I think that Harry already has far more things to be embarrassed about now and in the future other than wearing a uniform.
Agreed - the Middleton family has really done an excellent job of adopting a super low key proper existence.
I need to return to AnT's story, I saw there is a part 3...
ANT YOU ARE KILLING ME this is the best ever lol "Shut up Six." ah ahahahaha ha ha!!!
I can't believe that (if true) he has had a tailor start making his "Admiral" uniform?!?
He can't do both, and so he needs to make the decision (i.e. either put himself in legal jeopardy or totally relinquishing a Royal role).
Like those that shall-not-be-named...he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
What a putz.
I was left stunned by his words and thought how naive of him and really innocent he was to think this woman who knew nothing of life as a royal could have influenced him to such a degree, that for 35 years Harry himself didn't have a clue that he was trapped.
Yet here he was in this marriage with this crazy woman for 3 or 4 years and may never know how truly trapped he is now. Of course she will never tell him and he certainly didn't have the ability to think for himself when determining he was trapped in his royal life.
I don't know if anyone else caught that moment and had a certain feeling about it. But I gave it great thought, probably more than I should have. Is is trapped now for as long as she wants to keep him around. Because clearly he doesn't think for himself anymore.
Wouldn't that be considered Stockholm Syndrome, when a person only thinks of what his capture is telling him and he believes it to?
But it all goes back to when he sprung her on the world stage and I thought to myself, what in the hell is he doing with this woman? But I always trust my own instincts and I knew then that there was something not quite right with her and her ability to get into this man's life. First thought it how did she get there? How was it that she left her own country where there are plenty of men available and she was able to get with this particular man of all the men in the world? And why, why was it necessary for her travel this distance to meet this very man?
Clearly at the time I had no idea what she was, where she came from, or what her personality was. I know she snowed a entire country, an entire family (bar Princess Anne and staff), and the world at large. She never got under my skin in such a way, there was always something wrong and I didn't know what it was that made me feel that way.
To this day I still don't know what possessed her and how she wound up where she is today. She was never royal to me and never belonged in that family or with Harry, yet there she is. I know I could never be a part of that family and would never be interested in doing so because I'm an independent American woman with a career, a life here, and found plenty of healthy, young, career oriented men, good husband and father material.
I think what perplexes me the most in her motives is that video her father taped with her playing in the yard with her friends and she's playing a queen or a princess with a wand and tapping all the other kids with her wand. Is that where he obsession began? Is that where he mind was stuck in wanting to be a royal? Is she too stunted in Cinderella land where everything is sunshine and floating hearts in the air? She's so sick with so many undiagnosed mental disorders that it's frightening she's managed to have a life before Harry was set in her sights. Ugg..
the DM seems to have a new order of procession, with William in top tier with Charles, Lord Snowden and Prince Andrew, then Peter Philips on his own, then Princess Anne, Prince Edward, Harry Thing, then Annes Husband Sir Tim Laurence.
They really are keeping Thing and William apart.
..............
Oh that's surprising! I just saw a nice chart showing who was walking where on the Times and grabbed it to show Nutties...it has Charles and Anne first / Andrew and Edward second / followed by the brothers Grim and Peter, and Earl Snowden and Tim last.
I wonder where the DM got that info?
'Clearly at the time I had no idea what she was, where she came from, or what her personality was. I know she snowed a entire country, an entire family (bar Princess Anne and staff), and the world at large. She never got under my skin in such a way, there was always something wrong and I didn't know what it was that made me feel that way.'
.... You said it all.
Agree, this is what I’ve read and I’ve now read three times that Andrew did concede and back down. Harry on the other hand appears to have needed a much bigger kick up the backside. His ego just can’t accept no for answer, and that’s truly saying something because Andrew is noted for being pompous and full of self-importance himself.
Looking to see all the body language tomorrow between them all, which is appalling because it should solely be about celebrating and remembering Philip.
I checked the DM but all I found was the same order the Times reported but with an additional 4 aides added at the end. Do you remember where you saw that other order? I hope it's not true. I like the order with PP's 4 children in the first and second rows.
@HappyDays
You're welcome. And yes there is much for Harry to be embarrassed about! Perhaps near the top of the list would be allowing his wife to stow his 'jewels' in her handbag.🤣
"Maybe he was threatening to wear the grey suit tommorow.."
LOL!!!!!
I bet he packed that wretched thing too and something tells me he has *1* and somewhere someplace right now is an aide frantically running around with Charles' credit card trying to fetch pair of shoes 👞👞😅😅😅😅
Maybe Virginia plans to go after PA civilly? I do not know for sure it is black smear and his arrogance does him no favors and for life of me I cannot imagine why he chose to do that interview. It was so cringe I could not watch more than 5 minutes. Not only did he do interview he did it completely unprepared. Boggles the mind really. He really should, as mentioned not talk. His hopes of returning to engagements? Admiral outfit? Ugh.
@JerseyGirl I picked up same thing in interview. Could you imagine if genders were reversed? Rather bias not more fuss was raised as it really was disturbing.
Thank you Jenn for continued articles! Also the O and G tea. I really hope CBS has lowest ratings of coverage, that will send nice message.
What is the weather over there tomorrow?
One simply isn't done.
This is what Harry doesn't understand.
As long as he stays out of the United States the Feds won't go near him. It's really that simple.
He can live out the rest of his life as a free man, never convicted of any crime, and die alone in old age.
Oh no she didn't. Yes she did. From yesterday 😒
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1423734/Meghan-Markle-suits-picture-duchess-of-Sussex-prince-harry-royal-family-latest-news
Good PR is perfectly feasible for Andrew. The one thing that makes it look worse for Harry over Andrew, is the Commonwealth Day Westminster Abbey possession. Mole (H) and Maggot (M) kicked up an almighty stink when they were told they wouldn’t be in the possession, but William and Catherine were. To resolve it...none of them were in the included . The uniform nonsense is just another appeasement.
Andrew has been seen riding with Queen in the last few days, I’m sure if she was that annoyed with him and the uniform nonsense she might not want to spend private time with him. On the other hand Mole is No. 1 person non grata in Britain right now, I can’t imagine the Queen wanting to spend time with him. Maggot will have carry on to festering in Moneticito spinning whatever nonsense she wants to put out in the press. No one is listening in Blighty though.
Not sure if you listen to Lady C, if you haven’t you should give her a whirl.
My grandpa was a Mason, FWIW.
Possession should have been procession in my last comment! Lol I’m sure a few of the royals would love to take possession of Mole (H)!
I did see the corgis article so I'm confused because it seemed to have a chart that reflected what the Times reported. I'm not sure what you saw? Maybe the DM just changed it again? I'll try to post the charts on my blog.
As far as the 'kick up a stink' - we use that phrase here too. I was replying to someone else who said they actually 'read' that Harry caused a fuss. I haven't seen anything saying he kicked up a stink.
I was just guessing based on the various articles about the uniforms and specifically how this one from the Telegraph was worded, that Andrew was the bigger problem. I'm sure both of them whined about their costumes but I just have the feeling Andrew was worse. He wanted that step up to Admiral.
In addition to the reasons I wrote about in my post above - Harry has been quarantined so he wouldn't be able to campaign for his own uniform-wearing as easily as Andrew who was seen with the Queen. The news has stated (the last time I looked) that Harry has not spoken to the Queen yet and he will not see her until the funeral due to his quarantine.
Also Andrew has more of a 'right' to wear the uniform as he hasn't been stripped of his military standing. I can see him being angry that a no-uniform decision was made. And the Telegraph article makes it sound like there was a row going on about the uniforms up until the last minute when Andrew said he would agree to wear a suit. That makes it sound like Andrew was the bigger problem and it wasn't until he came on board that they were able to settle it.
It's not a big deal - just something I thought I sensed. I'm sure Harry was a nuisance too - he did ask to wear his uniform. I just think H might not be so pushy at this moment considering how his interview is being tied into PP's death. But who knows, maybe he will end up doing an interview with Tom Bradby and whine away for his future documentaries!
Glad you liked the O and G tea! That's a good point to check out CBS's ratings for the funeral coverage. I'll be interested in Bradby's ratings as well!
That is one of your best, and that is a high bar!
I loved Charlotte, Jacks powerful salesmans fist and well, everything.
I was waiting for the boss baby to come out and clean house, but Edo was hilarious.
Thanks for the laugh.
Thank you for the Telegraph article. I love Camilla Tominey, but I'll admit I was thinking "oh, heaven forfend either WPOS1 or WPOS2 get their feelings hurt." But I get it. Maybe they truly just wanted to honor Philip.
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Both of the second tier fatheads made incredibly serious errors in judgement that have cost them something dear to them. Good. But those actions have caused embarrassment to HM, PP, the RF and the U.K.
Honestly, its kind of lucky they are invited at all. There are any number of parents who wouldn't allow it. The Queen has taken plenty of heat for these two, and she is still most generous with them.
Spiff up, show up and shut up.
Actions=consequences
I like your style! I lost one family member (close and extended) a year for 35 years, so I also don't go to funerals anymore, either. Weddings, yes, but no funerals.
PP's death hit me hard for so many reasons. My mother passed away a few years ago, on Easter morning, the 5th of April. Well, the third of April was my parent's anniversary (father is also deceased, as well as my sister) and the seventh of April was my mother's birthday. It's the week from hell for me, as my mother was the last of my family. April 3rd, 5th, 7th.
I'll never go to another funeral again, and have it written in my will that there will be no funeral or remembrance service. Just cremate me and place my ashes in the family vault.
But I will go to a wedding that is joyful and eat cake!
@Lucy
Glad you liked the O and G tea! That's a good point to check out CBS's ratings for the funeral coverage. I'll be interested in Bradby's ratings as well!
CBS deceptively edited their 60 Minutes "interview" with Gov. DeSantis and lied about it (one of their operatives shows up at a press conference and accused Gov. DeSantis of favoring Publix because of campaign donations when *everybody* that can wield a needle, Walmart, Sam's Club Pharmacies, CVS, Walgreens, County Health Department, and the Navy (among others) are being used.
The Palm Beach Mayor was interviewed for 45 minutes before the segment aired and CBS' 60 Minutes had NOTHING from him in it including that it was his and the county administration's decision to use Publix.
“I participated in speaking with the producer of ’60 Minutes’ for probably over 45 minutes and gave very direct facts about the governor’s meeting that I had with him here in my office a few months ago,” Kerner said. “And when I watched the piece, I was just taken aback really that none of my comments, none of my perspective was included, and certainly the facts bear out the truth that this was a decision that I made, that county administration made, and really has been a wonderful addition to our overall plan here in Palm Beach County.”
Kerner said that he had met with DeSantis multiple times throughout the pandemic and they had worked well together. He also said the decision to work with Publix was a “no brainer.”
If the CBS network's premier investigative news report cannot honestly cover Florida's efforts to vaccinate as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible using resources available, how can they be trusted to honestly cover the funeral of a very important foreign leader? If they cannot comprehend that the Florida governor does not sit around making proclamations from on high but instead, each county has their own emergency management program with plans approved by the state and have made their own decisions about how to proceed with assistance and advice from the governor's office, how can they understand a foreign monarchy?
Their funeral coverage will probably be a hatchet job of outright lies and misrepresentations to cast the family in the worst possible light.
Not that Dim and Grim care. More inheritance for them. I feel terrible for Queen right now.
And Gayle will mention every third sentence how the RF is "facing serious issues this year after having chased
the stars of the family out due to racism charges and a deplorable record of mental health assistance"