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Open Post: Loss of Prince Philip Continues

 May the discussion continue.


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TheGrangle said…
First!! ( I think....)
JennS said…
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Maneki Neko said…
The Cat with the Emerald Tiara has a post on a petition on change.org to get the Markle's to stop pushing themselves in American mainstream media. Good luck with that!
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara.tumblr.com/
@ Acquitaine,

I’ll be pre-booking Gyles Brandreth book Philip: The Final Portrait to be released on the 27th April, it’s bound to be a consuming read and full of Philip’s quips and antidotes. ;o)
Ava C said…
Looking at the DM's headlines, Princes Andrew and Harry are actively competing for the title of My Family's Biggest Idiot. Andrew was indulged by the Queen. Harry was indulged by Diana. God save us from pampered ne'er-do-wells.
Acquitaine said…
@Raspberry Ruffle said…
"@ Acquitaine,

I’ll be pre-booking Gyles Brandreth book Philip: The Final Portrait to be released on the 27th April, it’s bound to be a consuming read and full of Philip’s quips and antidotes. ;o)"

Me too. I've pre-ordered it.

Though i felt the serialised DM column this week that discussed Philip and Fergie was rather cruel to include one of the toe sucking pictures.

I presume this was an editor's decision because the article was about their relationship rather than the picture.
Magatha Mistie said…

Fair Winds and Following Seas

I didn’t realise I’d feel
So much sorrow, it’s real
For a man that I’d never met
He’s been part of my life
Along with his wife
Something that many don’t get

jessica said…
DM has an article on Mark Zuckerburgs security costs, as Facebook pays for it and reported it in their filing.

“In 2019, Zuckerberg's $10 million budget not only bankrolled a 70-plus person security team, but was also reportedly used for a 'panic chute' and a bulletproof conference room, among other things.”

In 2020, the cost jumped to $25 million and covers himself, his family (wife and two children) security and all travel including private jet expenses.

I really think this is why we do not see Meghan and Harry out anywhere, all year. They cannot afford to take security everywhere and look important running to Whole Foods. Hence the massive whine fest over security during Oprah.
Perhaps Bradby and Scobie need to be reminded of `Lord Haw-Haw' - `Gairmany calling - Gairmany calling...'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw
TheGrangle said…
With the dastardly duo having done so much to bring attention to their well documented MH issues, I wonder why more capital isn't being made of this in order to destroy any last vestiges of credibility that they mayor may not have?

Watched a documentary on them on french TV last night,'La face cachée de Meghan & Harry (RMC story) For those that are concerned about journalistic credentials, contributors included:-

Anne-Elisabeth Moutet (Paris-based journalist and political commentator. She is a columnist for the Telegraph and also writes on French affairs for the Weekly Standard and for Newsweek in the US. She often comments on the news on the BBC, BFM-TV, ARTE, al-Jazeera and France 24. This blog contains stories she wrote for these, as well as for The European, The Sunday Times, Tatler, Prospect and the Chicago Sun-Times.
Jean des Cars ( Historian and biographer)
Lady Colin Campbell
Philip Turle ( France 24)
Pierrick Geais ( Vanity Fair France)
Adelaide de Clermont Tonnere (Section editor point de vue, french literary prize winner)

Within the first five minutes, the Oprah interview had been shot down as 'a cascade of lies' and ' with nothing sincere about the interview whatsoever'.
Oprah was heavily critisised, the staff bullying and the dodgy earrings were discussed and Meghan was described as a narcissist with a past 'Plus que douteux' ( more than doubtful). The overriding opinion was that Harry was equally culpable and equally vicious, with both obsessed over perceived and trivial slights. Her total unsuitability to be a member of the RF was universally acknowledged.

This is the second documentary that RMC have put out, the first was before the interview and again, they were pretty much lambasted and laughed at for being petty and childish. Clearly, they are not pulling the wool over anyones eyes!

This, on the other hand I can't verify, but it's doing the rounds on twitter. Yankee Wally'tweeted it:-

Wally
@yankeewally2
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13 avr.
Answer to Why is Oprah Winfrey now not taking Meghan’s calls? Breaking news - it is alleged that MS Winfrey’s production team for the interview identified Meghan’s fake BUMP and brought this issue to MS Winfrey after the interview. by Stacey Chapman .

Seems to have come from this quora thread: https://themarkles.quora.com/Why-is-Oprah-Winfrey-now-not-taking-Meghan-s-calls-Breaking-news-it-is-alleged-that-MS-Winfrey-s-production-team-for-1?ch=2&share=3b33328f&srid=uLooU0

If its true, it may explain why Maggot has been so quiet recently.....
JHanoi said…
DM
Article about Serena williams signing a deal for a docu series about her life and stories to tell.

I wonder why she didnt go to her BFF production company at Netflix to sell her docuseries and stories? Obviiously by signing directly with Amazon Serena gets all the profits, but does shes already filthy rich and married to a zillionaire. Couldnt she share some of the wealth?
Usually in that CA celeb crowd the friends use and help each other, scratch each others backs to get more fame and money. Its interesting.
Daniella Elser in NZ Herald gives cause for hope:

Under the headline, 2 days ago:

Daniela Elser: Photos prove Harry and Meghan have lost battle

...However, Philip's passing comes after the royal house has barely emerged from one of its most bruising and tumultuous periods and which has triggered a painful British — and international – reassessment of the very institution of the monarchy.

Which is what makes the appearance of crowds, many of them young families, toting flowers so powerful and portentous.

What those bouquets really signify is that despite everything, the royal family has emerged in one piece after one of the most bruising episodes in its storeyed and tumultuous history during which Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, took explosive aim at the institution.

n early March the couple took part in a lengthy TV interview with Oprah Winfrey which may well go down in the history books as the most damaging blitzkrieg Buckingham Palace has faced since Nazi bombs landed in the grounds in 1940.

Over the course of two hours, the sombre duo lobbed explosive claim after explosive claim at the royal family, including that when Meghan experienced suicidal thoughts her requests for help were denied and that during her pregnancy an unnamed family member raised "concerns" about their baby's skin colour.

While the house of Windsor had never previously been known as a lovey-dovey, touchy-feely beast, in the Sussexes' telling their image morphed from cool indifference to one of callous disregard with an abhorrent vein of racism running through the institution.'


And so on. I'm very glad that DE seems to have seen the light.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/daniela-elser-photos-prove-harry-and-meghan-have-lost-battle/
Magatha Mistie said…

I’m sure the truth will be revealed
after the funeral.
Meg was excluded.
Sure she will claim every ‘ism’ and more.

lucy said…
phew. Thought there would be 100+ posts. Emails please! :)

@Magatha not sure how I missed your avatar LOL! But I never miss a poem. I really enjoy them, thank you

Nope no plastic surgery here
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/b1/05/f6/b105f6dcb46579512dd4f403af404b1e.jpg
Maneki Neko said…
'We will look after Granny for you': Princess Eugenie pens an emotional tribute to Prince Philip and says she will remember his 'spectacular life'

In the post, Eugenie said she 'would remember learning how to cook, how to paint, what to read' as well as her grandfather's 'favourite beer' and BBQing ability.

She finished the statement by posting: 'Thank you for your dedication and love for us all and especially Granny, who we will look after for you.'
~ ~ ~ ~
A very touching tribute.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9470351/We-look-Granny-Princess-Eugenie-pens-emotional-tribute-Prince-Philip.html
AnT said…
@Acquitaine,
Thank you for sharing all that hot tea about Bradby on the previous thread. He IS a weasel! I hadn’t heard of him prior to the Africa interview disaster, found him smarmy and unprofessional. I then found an old article about him and my creep radar pinged (posted a link and excerpts on the previous thread)... but goodness, what you have shared makes his rotten core even more apparent. Glad WIlliam banished him.


@Magatha,
Hello, love your new pieces about the latest here!
Magatha Mistie said…

@Lucy
Thank you, glad to give you a smile.
Hard under present
circumstances, much appreciated 😘

@AnT
Cheers AnT 🥰
AnT said…
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@Magatha, I love your poem. That was beautiful. I feel that way, too-feeling very sad about someone I've never met. The more I read about him, the more I think about how amazing it would've been to spend time with him. I had never heard his voice until watching a post at Skippy's last night where he talks about the carriage driving. He was such an interesting, well-rounded, and grounded, person.
Is the fact that Bradby didn't want the RR job a sign that he may be a crypto-republican, despite claiming no political position at all? Did he take the job although coming from a position where he begrudged giving them even the time of day?

Did he hoover up the critical gossip and keep it for future use but the advent of the HuMbugs represented a heaven-sent opportunity to use it in order to do down the RF? Despite the `friendship' with Wills?
Bradby is just mad that no one in the industry takes him seriously anymore.
WBBM said, Is the fact that Bradby didn't want the RR job a sign that he may be a crypto-republican, despite claiming no political position at all?...

Yes, I wonder whether he’s a secret republican at heart. Can we sign a complaints petition to Ofcom to get him removed from ITV for being anti-monarchist? ;o)
KCM1212 said…
Left this on the last page, but I am moving it over here.
Because I can.
@Miggy

Oh, I loved that Prince Philip story! What a generous man!

@JennS

Great sleuthing on the Oprah tea! I am so happy she is finally getting slammed. This is her "Geraldo" moment.

And Bradby is slime. He keeps issuing low-level threats with tell all interviews. Bring it if you got it. No wonder W cut him loose. Another sign of wisdom.

Were you looking for that story of MM pretending to be her own PA and losing her mind over a photo shoot? Its at the link Miggy gave us for a PP story.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Remisagoodboy/status/1252701837397983233

and Swampwoman...your grandson kills me! What a doll he is!
Hikari said…
The DM article/posting of Eugenie's tribute to Philip is nice, but it's marred by several glaring errors. I get very frustrated by the shoddy quality of Internet 'journalism', where there appears to be little to no editorial eye being applied before the "Post" button is hit. Back in the day, errors like misspelling Princess Eugenie's title in the subheading (Princes) or attributing to her multiple 'newborn sons' simply would not have been permitted to occur so routinely as they do in the digital sphere. I really think the writers or some staff intern are posting these without bothering to spell-check or get editorial sign-off on the results.

There is another matter which I don't know constitutes an error as such but the details are contradictory from story to story about where Philip is to be buried. This, as others, says Frogmore Gardens, site of the Victoria/Albert mausoleum. Multiple other sources state that Philip will lie in the Royal Vault in St. George's Chapel until the death of the Queen, at which time both will be laid to rest together in the King George VI Memorial Chapel at Windsor Castle alongside the Queen's parents. Which scenario is more plausible, do you think? This article is very interesting but it too, alas has a glaring spelling error in it. At last check, there has been only one William IV (Victoria's uncle), not multiples.

https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/st-georges-chapel-windsor-castle-royals-buried-vault-can-you-visit/#:~:text=St%20George's%20Chapel%20is%20the,VIII's%20third%20wife%2C%20Jane%20Seymour.

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How many monarchs are buried at St George’s Chapel?

St George’s Chapel is the site of many royal interments, including ten former monarchs.

Five, including Henry VIII and Charles I, are buried beneath the Choir, along with Henry VIII’s third wife, Jane Seymour.

Who is buried in the Royal Vault of St George’s Chapel?

The Royal Vault at Windsor was constructed between 1804 and 1810 for George III, who died in 1820. He is one of three former Kings of the United Kingdom buried there, alongside George IV and Williams IV.

After his memorial on Saturday 17 April, Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, will be laid to rest in the Royal Vault. (my note: Princess Margaret also rests in the Royal Vault.)

When the Queen dies, the Duke will be moved to the King George VI memorial chapel, where the Queen’s father, George VI, and the Queen Mother are also interred, to lie beside his wife of over 73 years.
Magatha Mistie said…

Thank you@ConstantGardener
It was heartfelt X


AnT said…
@AvaC,

AvaC, on the previous thread about Philip's death, you said, "1) Why should the scales fall from Harry's eyes just because he has a couple of days to read the news coverage of his wife? He has, for a certainty, already seen multiple examples, first hand, of far worse...."

That was how I felt until I thought about it over the weekend.

Here's the thing: a major family death like this is jarring on several levels. For Harry, it's possibly approaching a level near the loss of his mother, and a harbinger of the loss of his father and the queen, the two people he's managed to keep on side in spite of all havoc. Due to Harry's mental health, this may all land on soft ground.

Megsy's public fits tantrums, coupled with the fits only Harry has witnessed, are appalling. He has seen her insult staff, press and business partners, lie to judges, cast hateful aspersions at the UK, and even cut off her father, a man he never met and with whom he thus has no attachment.

He has seen the covey of her awful friends. He knows the questionableness of his "son" and upcoming pre-ordered Baby Di. After awhile, yes, even all this subterranean madness has probably seemed as normal to him as her nightly removal of hair, teeth and hoof covers. It's LA, baby!

BUT, now. Now he is back in the UK, alone. And in that old familiar prism, perhaps he is seeing her bizarre and disrespectful behavior play out with regard to his grandfather, the tent pole of the family. He is seeing her insistent digging on the grave in the press during a somber week. Her blatant lack of respect, the stories of his unlikely stay at Frogmore, keep rushing forward like a tide bringing in ocean trash. All as his grandfather's resting place is being prepared.

He is on site, feeling the cold shoulders, seeing the looks of distrust, feeling none of the jolly warmth old Hooray Harry had once basked in. He is in his homeland, devastated by COVID, something he didn't really have to feel amid the swaying LA palms as he splashed and pedaled and peddled about. He is in full immersion now. He is without the Creature's hand gripping on his arm or pressing his back. Friends are likely not ringing. Headlines are not welcoming. Pubs are not offering a pint. Staff are likely cool.

When he steps out of isolation, into the funeral procession among his former family, and the chill is apparent, the kids have grown, there is bigger business than Harry's tears to attend to, he will see that Life has clearly gone on smartly without him. The military band will play and he has no place at the table. The force of what he did will strike and create a fissure in his armor of arrogance.

The memorial service, the casket, the queen will be the second strike, to his heart or mind.

Watching others walk off afterwards, supporting each other, friendly to each other, back to the familiar structure of their lives, will be the third strike, to his gut.

When his phone begins to bleat as he walks alone to his car, and it's Meghan screeching again about "did you ask for, did we get--" ---- he may finally feel flattened, and wonder what he gave it all up for. The press reports he will jet straight back to LA immediately following the funeral, suggesting to me he already feels the chill --- or Meghan has ordered him back as the Queen of California.

But, wait til Saturday. Because really, what can an insipid group of BetterUp clowns say to a Prince who lost his country, to make him feel better?

I predict this week breaks Harry in some deep way, heralding future grave issues with the Meghan Markle Life Plan.

"
Hikari said…
In the wake of Princess Eugenie's lovely, personal tribute to her grandfather, along with adorable photos of the York girls with Philip over the years, and several photos of Eugenie, Jack and little August Philip, PP's namesake, I predict that right this moment, Mugs is churning out some guff about *her* very special bond with 'The Duke', where she goes on at length about that time they 'bumped into the Duke' and had a laugh while on their way to the hall to Present Archie, the Unbreathing, Unmoving Newborn. That was really sporting of Philip to come down to Windsor from Wood Farm at Sandringham on a random Wednesday for the purposes of bumping into Meg and the Blessed Babe all wrapped in swaddling cloths. Yes, May 8th was a Wednesday that year, so the changes of Her Majesty being at Windsor, her favorite weekend retreat (pre-Covid, generally just at the week-end) in the middle of the work week were rather remote, never mind dragging her husband down from Norfolk. But no doubt, seeing as Philip was 'in town', he probably popped 'round to Frogmore Cottage for a barbecue before going back to Sandringham where Mugs impressed him with her facility with vegan sausages, and patted 'Arch' on the head before getting into his car.

Wait for it.
Hikari said, but the details are contradictory from story to story about where Philip is to be buried. This, as others, says Frogmore Gardens, site of the Victoria/Albert mausoleum. Multiple other sources state that Philip will lie in the Royal Vault in St. George's Chapel until the death of the Queen, at which time both will be laid to rest together in the King George VI Memorial Chapel at Windsor Castle alongside the Queen's parents. Which scenario is more plausible, do you think?...

I totally agree at the shoddy journalism. I posted similar inconsistencies on the last blog post regarding where Philip will be laid to rest. Made even worse by the fact the inconsistencies were within the same article! I tend to give up second guessing the truth...we’ll know in time. To my knowledge most Monarchs and their immediate family members (Princess Margaret) are laid to rest in the royal vault at St George’s Chapel.

Here is the article again...

https://mol.im/a/5575883
KCM1212 said…
@Magatha Mistie

Just the title "Fair Winds and Following Seas" choked me up Magatha. Thank you, that was lovely.

@Ava c

I cant figure out why it would even be on the table for Andrew to wear an Admirals uniform, Ava. His promotion to Admiral was deferred until he can "clear his name".

It's so odd, that I suspect it's more MM PR, designed to wind Harry up and create a permanent break with his family.

@The Grangle
That is very cheering news! I'm so happy France is calling Oprah out. Tge tide really seems to have turned.

@JennS
Can't wait to hear the Gayle tea. Toady.

@AnT
loved the story on the last page!! I can't quote it here, of course because I apparently have no memory left, but I literally laughed out loud. Thank you
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14644534/meghan-markle-prince-harry-regrets-oprah-interview-philip-death/

ROYAL REGRET Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have ‘regrets’ about Oprah interview following Prince Philip’s death

Snip: "MEGHAN Markle and Prince Harry have "regrets" about the Oprah Winfrey interview following the death of Prince Philip, according to reports.

The explosive tell-all chat was aired while the Duke of Edinburgh was ill in hospital - and according to sources, the Sussexes regret the timing of the interview.
Prince Philip passed away at Windsor Castle on Friday aged 99 - sparking an outpouring of grief.

A source close to Meghan and Harry has now told how the Duke and Duchess of Sussex "wish things could have been different" but still believe it was something they had to do.

And they hope that their relationship with Charles, William and Kate will be better "one day".

They told Heat Magazine: "They needed to have their say, and they couldn't see any other way to do it.

"Harry and Meghan's love and respect for Prince Philip and the Queen was never in doubt."

And the source added that Harry was "upset" that Philip never got to know Archie and won't meet his great-granddaughter.

This comes after Harry and Meghan are attempting to mend the royal rift ahead of the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral on Saturday."
Miggy said…
@KCM1212,

Oh, I loved that Prince Philip story! What a generous man!

Indeed... and I'm hoping more will come to light in the next few days/weeks. :)

What I find really sad, is that it took Philip's demise for me to realise what a truly wonderful man he was.
She's so busy, writing all of this crap. Well, her and Markus, I imagine. How pathetic. She can't keep her trap shut for a single week. Meltdown Meghan. Each new one is a sign of increasing mental instability. Unreal. It just keeps going.
AnT said…
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@Miggy, totally agree with you. I never thought much about him or gave him credit while he was alive. Only now am I discovering what a fascinating and decent person he was. Harry had the best possible role model right there and learned absolutely nothing.
AnT said…
Oh, FFS. If you take a whisky shot every time you read the words "pregnancy" or "unborn" or "birth"below, you will be quickly drunk, so please don't. Buckle up for this one, my darlings:


How Meghan Markle Feels Missing Prince Philip’s Funeral Amid ‘All The Family Tension’
Meghan's doctor wouldn't clear her to fly to the U.K. because of her pregnancy. \
But she isn't feeling relief, a source told E!.


On Saturday, Prince Harry will publicly reunite with the royal family for the first time since his and Meghan Markle's big bombshell Oprah interview to attend Prince Philip's funeral. Meghan Markle won't be with him, as her doctor didn't clear her to fly to England due to her pregnancy being so far along. But despite family tensions, the Duchess of Sussex isn't exactly feeling relief getting to avoid facing the royal family, E! reports. She really wanted to be there, a source close to her said.

“Meghan wishes she could have flown to the U.K. to support her husband but has been advised not to due to her pregnancy,” the source explained. “She would have put all the family tension aside to be there with Harry.” The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the source added, “are still not on amazing terms with the family.”

Harry, on the other hand, feels it's better for Meghan and their unborn baby girl's health that the Duchess remains in Montecito, California. “Harry wants to make sure Meghan and the baby are healthy and not involved in stressful situations [such as Philip's very public, televised funeral],” the source said.

Page Six reported yesterday that Harry will fly back to California shortly after the funeral finishes so he can be back with Meghan and their son Archie. Meghan is due to give birth to the couple's second child this summer.

And while over there, Harry has been thinking a lot of Meghan and talking to her. Us Weekly reported on Tuesday that Harry has been in constant touch with his wife. “He’s already really missing Meghan and Archie and has been FaceTiming them every day to check in,” the source said. “He actually speaks to Meghan a few times a day because he worries [about] leaving her when she’s so far along in her pregnancy.”

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a36118500/meghan-markle-prince-philip-funeral-absence-feelings/

@AnT, good morning! She must be on the marching powder in order to be cranking this stuff out 24 hours a day with seemingly no breaks.
Miggy said…
Perfecting a fitting send-off for Philip: Soldiers from the Household Cavalry, Coldstream Guards and Royal Regiment carry out rehearsal drills as preparations step-up for funeral.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9470243/Soldiers-carry-rehearsal-drills-ahead-Prince-Philips-funeral.html
AnT said…
@AvaC said, Princes Andrew and Harry are actively competing for the title of My Family's Biggest Idiot.
LOL! I agree, but I also agree with the idea it may be just another ludicrous Rachel Tale planted to cause trouble?

@The Grangle,
Excellent news from France. They are not gullible or blinded by the Harkles, are they? Thank you so much for sharing this.

@KCM1212,
Trying to write things now and then just to alleviate the the grim horror we all feel from Megsy's antics --we can't all be getting fresh rage wrinkles due to her cruel nonsense during this sad time. Handsome Phil wouldn't want that.
Hikari said…
@AnT

After awhile, yes, even all this subterranean madness has probably seemed as normal to him as her nightly removal of hair, teeth and hoof covers. It's LA, baby!

Hoof covers! Oh, my sides . . ! There's a latte and a dozen pastries for that.

BUT, now. Now he is back in the UK, alone. And in that old familiar prism . . .He is on site, feeling the cold shoulders, seeing the looks of distrust, feeling none of the jolly warmth old Hooray Harry had once basked in. Staff are likely cool.

When he steps out of isolation, into the funeral procession among his former family, and the chill is apparent, the kids have grown, there is bigger business than Harry's tears to attend to, he will see that Life has clearly gone on smartly without him. The military band will play and he has no place at the table. The force of what he did will strike and create a fissure in his armor of arrogance.

The memorial service, the casket, the queen will be the second strike, to his heart or mind.

Watching others walk off afterwards, supporting each other, friendly to each other, back to the familiar structure of their lives, will be the third strike, to his gut. I predict this week breaks Harry in some deep way, heralding future grave issues with the Meghan Markle Life Plan.


I would like to believe that in accordance with your scenario, that Harry will begin to see the magnitude of his mistakes and feel the impulse to repent of his horrid behavior and reach out tentatively to try to repair bridges with his family. If he chucked Meghan in and abandoned her to the rented earthquake fault Airbnb and her collection of moonbumps, dolls and wardrobe of fake hair and dentures and hoof covers to stay in England and try to mend the relationship with Granny, Dad and William & Kate foremost, that truly would be a best-case scenario. I do think the Markle plan for world domination is teetering on the verge of imploding. They lobbed that grenade of the Oprah interview when they did because I believe it was their final ace to play. Most likely the Netflix and Spotify deals have quietly folded, due to lack of any content or even solid pitch ideas coming out of the Sussex camp. The juvenile couple of tossers figured they'd sit back in their Montecito mansion and pocket huge sums for simply being themselves. Actually having to work very hard at a 10, 12 hour day of production meetings and networking to 'produce' anything, ie., 'work' didn't really occur. They want to live like big shots for nothing. Their corporate partners are wising up that this was a terrible investment.

Having seen Meg talk and work the cameras on one of her better days, I can see how she'd be capable of flattering and convincing some most likely male executives that she really is the person she promotes herself as. She can sound articulate in tiny helpings if one doesn't deconstruct her word salad too hard. In the context of a 20 or 30 minute pitch meeting, she can probably weave some charming and convincing bullshit to ink some kind of promissory deal. But that's all the further it goes. Behind the pitch, with the flirting and the hair touching and the earnest SJW soundbite pablum, there's no There there. But she really doesn't seem to understand, nor does Harry, that they will continue to get paid astronomical sums just for being the cute/sexy 'young Royals'. They are neither cute, nor sexy nor young nor royal, but in the short term, they have gotten enough fawning attention to reinforce their delusional branding of themselves. That's literally all they have to trade upon.

Hikari said…
If Harry sees and feels it all slipping away (it slid away some time ago and the Oprah interview was the final coup de grace) I think it far more likely that the sense of isolation, of being cold-shouldered, distrusted and ignored is only going to fuel his sense of petty grievances and entitlements even more. The distant reception he experiences will be used as 'proof' by both of the SHAMs of just how cold, unfeeling, racist and unkind--Bullies!--Harry's family has always been. Any mistreatment as perceived by him will be due to his wife and bab(ies) being biracial, not due to what he himself has done. What Meg and Harry have in common most is their mutual utter lack of personal responsibility for their own actions. Both refuse completely to accept that their own negative actions bring the negative consequences. I don't think Harry's granddad's funeral is suddenly going to bring this revelation about at his age. He's had too much reinforcement of all his very worst negative traits since he met the Thing.

We haven't seen the old Hooray Harry for at least 5 years now, and based on what we have found out since, most likely almost everything we thought we knew about Harry prior to 2017 has been glossy, deftly stage-managed PR spin. Sure, it was easy to enjoy a lark with the cheeky bachelor Prince at a time when there were very few expectations of him. The press corps that got to have a laugh with Hazza on his gap year and admired his joking around with some local kids have dined out on that image for years and applied it to Harry's mythos. Hooray Harry, Hero Soldier Prince of Aghanistan and Granny's Favorite Grandchild *is* mythos from soup to nuts. The Harry we now see before us is the real Harry with all of his more positive props and PR-spinners removed. With every passing day, he reminds me more and more of Great-great-Uncle David, who sent his Duchess peevish, caustic letters from London when he returned for funerals of his brother and father. Roundly mocking everyone as 'cold, dull, dumpy and plain', nasty to him, etc., with no apparent self-awareness about his own role in their attitudes at all. Harry is exactly like that, except for the writing letters part. On his own, I think Harry capable of 140 characters for a tweet and not much more.

So I think things will remain as fractured and frosty as ever, Himself just as petulant, entitled and pissed off over not getting his way. He might behave slightly better by himself, without The Claw pawing at him, but in private . . there may very well be a fistfight between the brothers, and Harry will not prevail. He is weak in every sense: physically, morally, intellectually, emotionally. I would not blame William one bit for taking a swing at him. Who knows what awful things he may say when they are alone?

If Harry could be compelled to stay in England (I don't think 'persuasion' is going to work) they might be able to make some progress with him, but I think the family will be eager to see him gone ASAP--off to the airport by Sunday, if not sooner. I do not foresee any chummy family lunches/teas happening. Harry is eligible to leave quarantine on 'compassionate grounds/funeral leave' provided he's got a negative test, but technically quarantine is still in force, so I doubt he would be allowed to mingle with family. At all. Any difficult conversations to be had will be at a social distance and then Harry will be told to get TF out of the country. Of course, he'll have to rush home to Herself who's 'pregnant' and that's the face-saving excuse which will be offered to the press as to why Harry was unable to stay longer with his family.

Redemption is not going to be happening. That's my theory.

AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33, you wrote:
And the source added that Harry was "upset" that Philip never got to know Archie and won't meet his great-granddaughter.

Oh my god.

Well, great, Harry, glad you finally noticed another major flaw in your plans. Now put that "upset' emotional juice into a little bottle, take it home, and throw it at Megsy's head, won't you?

And while you're winging back, why don't you try making a little list of all the other family members "Archie" won't get to know. And the family "Baby Di" won't get to know. See how that goes. It will help with your bottle throwing later.
@AnT, right? She keeps pumping out this garbage. And it's only Wednesday!
Acquitaine said…
@Hikari: Re Burial arrangements vault vs chapel vs Frogmore.

Moving bodies from one to another has been going on for centuries as space required.

It's unclear why Philip is being put in the vault temporarily when they can put him in the chapel straight away unless they are building a tomb that will house PP and The Queen and it's better to disturb the area once to inter both at the same time and then seal it.






Acquitaine said…
@ AnT said...
"@ConstantGardener33, you wrote:
And the source added that Harry was "upset" that Philip never got to know Archie and won't meet his great-granddaughter.

Oh my god.

Well, great, Harry, glad you finally noticed another major flaw in your plans. Now put that "upset' emotional juice into a little bottle, take it home, and throw it at Megsy's head, won't you?"

Wait, their PR said Archie was always popping up in Zoom calls to PP and The Queen......

These people can't stick to the facade they create.

It's too late to be upset at the consequences of his decisions.

Then again, his wife is already pushing the imaginary Philip bond, i'm willing to bet we are going to get lots of regret / PTSD stories about how he wasn't here to be with Philip in this final year just as we've been getting them about Diana.
@Acquitaine, epic spewing by Markle. It's in all directions, and she can't keep her lies and story lines straight.
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Hikari said…
Above . . I omitted a crucial 'not' and meant to say 'mother's funeral' not father's.
KCM1212 said…
@AnT and
@ConstantGardener33, you wrote:
"And the source added that Harry was "upset" that Philip never got to know Archie and won't meet his great-granddaughter.

Oh my god.

Well, great, Harry, glad you finally noticed another major flaw in your plans. Now put that "upset' emotional juice into a little bottle, take it home, and throw it at Megsy's head, won't you?"

It must be kind of fun being one of MMs PR geeks. I imagine they get off the phone after she dictates another mini-masterpiece and laugh themselves sick. They probably have a even little awards show for the stories that display the most effrontry, the meanest snipe, etc. They drink too much and have a delightful time.

Right up to the moment one realizes that her soul has withered to the point that it has not actually been seen in a few months.

And that she just realized it now.

hunter said…
Has anyone posted the link about how Zara just wants Meghan Markle to shut up already?

AnT - I really enjoy your writing.
Miggy said…
Media should focus on Prince Philip's funeral - not hurtful Harry, says ANN WIDDECOMBE

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/ann-widdecombe/1422784/prince-philip-funeral-bbc-news-who-will-attend

Doubtless the BBC will rise to the occasion again this coming weekend when it covers the funeral but there is one sort of commentary that it should resist: speculation about a healing of the rift between William and Harry.

I fear an army of body language experts and lip-readers will be on hand to interpret the smallest interaction between them. It will impose another unnecessary strain for them all at an already difficult time.

This funeral is about the Duke, not about Harry, and the headlines and commentary should reflect that.

I find it difficult to believe that any reconciliation is possible as long as accounts of conversations are going to be blabbed by his wife to her American TV presenter friends, who will in turn provide a running commentary.

This self-indulgent ex-Royal did damage enough to his family and country and piled pressure on the Queen when the Duke was in hospital with his last illness.

He now needs to prove he can exercise discretion and consideration for others and that he can persuade his wife to do the same. Until then let the speculation cease.
AnT said…
@Hikari,
Lol, thanks for the latte and pastries, I'm famished!

You wrote:

So I think things will remain as fractured and frosty as ever, Himself just as petulant, entitled and pissed off over not getting his way. He might behave slightly better by himself, without The Claw pawing at him, but in private . . there may very well be a fistfight between the brothers, and Harry will not prevail. He is weak in every sense: physically, morally, intellectually, emotionally.

Harry will be told to get TF out of the country. Of course, he'll have to rush home to Herself who's 'pregnant' and that's the face-saving excuse which will be offered to the press as to why Harry was unable to stay longer with his family.

Redemption is not going to be happening. That's my theory.

Eloquent as always, and you are undoubtedly quite right. I definitely see no redemption for Harry. And yes, he may likely retain his framework and choose to lash out at the RF, through Megs' "sources", about how cold and mean they were to him during the funeral week.

The one thing I do foresee however is the advent of uncomfortable fractures of his mind. He will struggle with them, not understand them, and have more angry fits, more sleepless night, more buried guilt. He will try to brush it to the back of his empty ginger melon, but the rips and fractures in his cognition will remain, and they will quietly wreak havoc in the world of Meghan's Plans. He will probably willingly remain to die along the highway of Megs' life, as you suggest, but I firmly believe that their happiness scenario will be left permanently cracked and more dysfunctional by whatever else happens this week.

And I totally agree -- they have been sitting around thinking their nonexistent sexy youthful charm and royal veneer is all they need to succeed. As California eventually reopens fully, Meghan will find out she isn't young there in the land of 16-year-old beauties, she isn't royal there, there are a million sexy charmers in line in front her, and you can't threaten a producer or throw a tea cup at a top director or produce shows simply by thinking about them. Especially when you are only phantom rich, totally uncreative, disconnected, and now known to be a lawsuit-mad, secret-spilling *itch.

If the story is true that Oprah's filming team spotted the fake Baby Di bump and reported it to Queen Oprah, ohhhh my. That connection will melt and disappear. And, it might amp up Foster's comments around town, and the duo will be labeled forever as ridiculous, clumsy lunatics. I'll ask my LA friend if she's heard anything more.
xxxxx said…
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AnT said…
@Miggy,
Applause for Anne Widdecombe! Thanks for finding that article and pasting it here!!
@AnT re: the Oprah team seeing fake bump-is that why Oprah said to her "You're really pregnant?" or whatever it was?
xxxxx said…
@Hikari
There could well be a fistfight in private between the Royal brothers. I keep reading how Wills had a fiery temper that Katherine tamed. This Wills temper can easily resurface if Harry gives him some mindless, insulting, inane shit.

If we see Harry getting off the airplane in Los Angeles with a black eye or two, then we will know.
Maneki Neko said…
@TheGrangle

Thank you for these two finds, great tea. I didn't think the French would go in for that sort of investigative journalism into the BRF (if MM can be described as a member of the BRF). That was brave of them to describe Megsy's past as 'Plus que douteux' (nothing very 'douteux' about it).

I hope this and the fake bump story find their way into several mainstream British and American media.
Hikari said…
@AnT

The one thing I do foresee however is the advent of uncomfortable fractures of his mind. He will struggle with them, not understand them, and have more angry fits, more sleepless night, more buried guilt. He will try to brush them to the back of his empty ginger melon, but the rips and fractures in his cognition will remain, and they will quietly wreak havoc in the world of Meghan's Plans. He will probably willingly remain to die along the highway of Megs' life, as you suggest, but I firmly believe that their happiness scenario will be at least be left fractured and gimpy by whatever else happens this week.

I concur. I will restate what I've said a number of times already: I don't believe that Harry is ultimately going to survive his association with Meghan. I think there is a very high possibility that he will die from misadventure (drug OD) or suicide (possibly staged to look like an 'accident') . .or even murder (also staged to look like an accident) though I think that last one is remote. Most likely is that his lifestyle of recreational Class-A hobbies, drinking, reckless behavior and constant stress will do him in. If Harry survives past 40, I'd be frankly surprised. Look at how he's deteriorated physically (not to mention mentally and emotionally since his engagement.) This is what life with a Narcissist does to a person. But Harry's one himself, so the effects are amplified. It's a fascinatingly tragic case study of a beta Narc being abused by the Alpha Narc he's in cahoots with. Harry was sheltered and supported by his family and insulated from most of the negative consequences of his interior failings. As long as Narcs are getting what they want, they can come across as happy-go-lucky charming individuals, and I think this described Harry for most of his life. When he got in trouble (the Army; Vegas; the big fail with the American Army) he was out of his comfort zone/playpen of KP walls with his life micromanaged by courtiers to get him dressed, sober him up, get him to appearances on time, etc. Take away Harry's supports and what we get is what we are now seeing.

Hikari said…
Recently I stumbled upon a vintage interview from the 1960s with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor at their home in Paris and I was shocked to the core by the appearance of them both. David looked like an 85-year-old and was a visibly quivering wreck. He made monosyllabic noises while Wallis, looking desiccated and hard as nails did all the talking. They both looked freeze-dried. David in particular reminded me of those veterans who came home from the Great War more or less catatonic. A sad, pathetic, disgusting wreck of a human being. Wallis would spend her last years as a recluse, seen by no one and gradually starving herself to death.

This is what a life of unfettered 'freedom' on his own terms is going to net Harry. I don't care about Markle. Markle is a cockroach; she will survive, like cockroaches always do. Harry is not strong enough to withstand her for decades. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Charles will live to bury his younger son. Harry does not look good. In fact, he looks so terrible after one year of 'freedom' in the California sunshine that HELLO! had to use a picture of him from last year to put in their story of 'Harry coming home'--that pic of him in the blue shirt grinning like a moron in a car is from January 2020, nearly a year and a half ago. I think things are really dire for Harry, but he's so brainwashed by this point that he will do anything his wife says. What she thinks is now what he thinks. Harry has been possessed by her, like Professor Quirrel with Voldemort growing out of his head, sucking him dry. There is no more demarcation where Meg stops and Harry begins. They are one. But she'd dump him tomorrow . . 'baby' and all . .if she could get her claws into some tech billionaire. After he's utterly destroyed and most likely dead, she will move on. It's what she does.

The only aspect of Harry's future I see clearly is a burial plot in Frogmore Cemetery, next to the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. I don't know how long it will be before he's there, but whether a few years or 50 years . . they are going to be miserable. That's what he's got to look forward to. To which I say, 'You made it, you lie on it, son.' There's no pity for him left, only resignation.
AnT said…
@Acquitaine,
Superb catch --- that's right! they said were constantly Zooming Grandpa and Grandma! Such silly sloppy liars. Her "marketing team" needs to quit before they are unemployable laughingstocks thanks to Rachel with the hotmail.

---

@KCM1212,
you wrote: It must be kind of fun being one of MMs PR geeks. I imagine they get off the phone after she dictates another mini-masterpiece and laugh themselves sick.

Ha, you are probably onto something! These underpaid Gen Z workers fed up to the teeth with this stupid client, and having a go at her by crossing the streams of their messaging. We ought to start sending SS some ready-for-distributuon story ideas. "Meg takes Guinness baths to make sure her unborn daughter comes out speaking in an accent." "The Queen uses BetterUp to get over the loss of her husband and crows, It works!" and "Zara admits Meghan helped deliver her bathroom baby via iPhone coaching."
xxxxx said…
@Hikari
There could well be a fistfight in private between the Royal brothers. I keep reading how Wills had a fiery temper that Katherine tamed. This Wills temper can easily resurface if Harry gives him some mindless, insulting, inane shit.

If we see Harry getting off the airplane in Los Angeles with a black eye or two, then we will know. Or wearing large sunglasses as a black eyes cover up.
Hikari said…
@xxxx

There could well be a fistfight in private between the Royal brothers. I keep reading how Wills had a fiery temper that Katherine tamed. This Wills temper can easily resurface if Harry gives him some mindless, insulting, inane shit.

If we see Harry getting off the airplane in Los Angeles with a black eye or two, then we will know.


That fiery temper appears to be a legacy from the Royal men--George V and his sons all had it, and the Duke of Edinburgh could curl courtiers' wigs when in a mood. William's nickname at nursery school was 'Basher' because apparently he had a tendency to hit other children and/or objects when he didn't want to share.

In time he learned that bashing people is not the way to make friends and isn't a good look on a future King, but if Basher resurfaces during this visit we will know it was because he was provoked.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,
I don't know, from the post earlier in the threads here it sounded more as if the crew noticed it in scanning footage in post production. But, you could be right. I assumed Oprah was merely facetiously referring to tabloid gossip. But she did seem a little too surprised, especially when Megs strode in with an 8 month bump after her previous miscarriage fame. Maybe Oprah left that in as her future "out" -- "Well, as you can see, I was very surprised by what I saw walk in....something seemed odd, but I tried to get through it!"

@hunter,
Thanks -- I miss your posts though, so I hope you comment more when you have time. Sometimes I simply don't have time, but I am in a brief pocket waiting for some artwork.

@Hikari, you wrote:
"...a vintage interview from the 1960s with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor at their home in Paris and I was shocked to the core by the appearance of them both. David looked like an 85-year-old and was a visibly quivering wreck. He made monosyllabic noises while Wallis, looking desiccated and hard as nails did all the talking.". <<<< I think I saw the same footage a few years ago, because it killed the whole glamour aspect of their tale for me. Yeah, they could dress themselves thanks to the royal money, and friends. But they were really left as wandering, diminished, rather caged creatures, weren't they?
Anonymous said…
@Hunter

AnT - I really enjoy your writing.

I second that. It’s a real pleasure to read.
KCM1212 said…
@AnT

"We ought to start sending SS some ready-for-distributuon story ideas. "Meg takes Guinness baths to make sure her unborn daughter comes out speaking in an accent." "The Queen uses BetterUp to get over the loss of her husband and crows, It works!" and "Zara admits Meghan helped deliver her bathroom baby via iPhone coaching."
--
Brilliant. Utterly brilliant. I particularly like the Guiness one.
AnT said…
If William wants vengeance, I would suggest hustling Harry off with Mike Tindall, getting him massively drunk, then having a tattoo artist tattoo the word "TRAITOR" across Harry's forehead, then dropping him back off at Frogmore/Nottingham Cottage/Soho House/the riverbank.
@AnT, ahh in post-production. Got it. Wasn't sure about the timing because it seems like there's so much editing and pasting together of bits and pieces. Noticing it in PP makes sense. I'm sure the staff are up close and personal with every shot during that phase of the process.
JHanoi said…
So much for MM making this week "not about her" haha

Everyday sources `close to her' drop new tidbits ...all about her.
First she wasnt coming because shes heavily pregnant.
Then the palace repeats the same line so MM sources now say , she didnt want to be a distraction at the funeral.
Now close sources say the Harkles regret the interview happened so close to PPs sickness death, but they had to be authentic LOL
Since JH landed close sources say, hes been in constant contact with the claw several times a day, worried sick about her pregnancy health.


Now hes sad babygirl or the child not brought up with social constraints of a girl, didnt get to meet and spend time with grand PP. Hmmm seems to me can rectify that situation ASAP with Archie and HM now!!and baby girl in a few months!

as horrible as this sounds, i think the MM SS approach to PPs passing is that political philosophy, 'never let a tragedy/crisis go to waste` to get more PR. And theres no such thing as bad publicity.


AnT said…
@Rebecca,
@KCM1212,
Thanks. The antics of this pair of bold fools makes it almost too easy to spew.
Ava C said…
@AnT - I can see your point about the possible effects on Harry of being back here but, when you think how brief a stay it will be and in isolation most of the time, it won't be enough to offset his wife's malign influence. The pandemic is doing Meghan's job for her at the moment. Keeping Harry away from his family.

As I wrote the previous paragraph I was thinking "but hang on, he's as bad as she is". However, on reflection, I don't think he is. He's essentially weak but she is evil and beyond redemption. With a different partner he would still be living here. An increasingly obscure royal but within a family rather than a social media construct. He has done some terrible things to his family but weakness always has the potential to do terrible things if controlled by a terrible person or by the sheer force of events.

Hopefully the Saga of Harry will teach the Royal Family to pay just as much attention to the upbringing and training of their younger children as for the oldest. If I was Charlotte or Louis I would keep my head down, do my homework, qualify for a proper profession and earn my keep. From what I've read so far, things look hopeful. Lots of time playing outside, restricted screen time, plentiful hugs, healthy food, stable routines. Can you imagine the older Cambridge children being allowed a bar in their basement?
London Gent said…
Blimey, take a break from the Internet for a few months, re-visit the Nutty Flavor Blog, and get inundated like Captain Kirk by (Harkle) Tribbles (obscure reference to American Star Trek original series)!

All joking aside, had to take a break from the Internet due to family/work/lockdown concerns, and, whilst really, really (REALLY) wishing to take innumerable swipes at the Harkles for innumerable reasons, had to make the decision break it off cleanly, to save self from stress and, wait for it, 'get on with it', Duke of Edinburgh style :-) However, thankfully have more time on my hands now, and, pleased with self for waiting patiently, have been busy attempting to catch up. Hopeful I'm not too far behind. First impression: Was it you, @ Hikari, who said/wished the Duke of Cambridge would flatten Harry with one punch if given the chance? Well, sums up my feelings quite well, I'd say. In fact, HRH will have to join the queue, Lol.

Can't possibly respond to the hundreds (yes, literally) of posts here that have 'nailed it' regarding the Harkles, whether keeping up with latest media posts, giving stellar insight or simply helping keep others' spirits up. Might seem silly, but I'd like to give you all a ~bow~. Monarchist to the death, you all deserve huge thanks for 'keeping the flame'.

If I may, I would just like to thank @ Magatha Mistie for this:

Fair Winds and Following Seas

I didn’t realise I’d feel
So much sorrow, it’s real
For a man that I’d never met
He’s been part of my life
Along with his wife
Something that many don’t get

(I started missing HRH when he turned 90, dreading what was to come. Thank you, friend.)
EverMore74 said…
Wishful thinking: the Iron Duke's last service done for the crown, even in death. Maybe Harry's presence at the funeral of his grandfather will remind him of all the people he has left behind for whatever the reason. Maybe he asks for help . Don't want to go back. Help me!!
KCM1212 said…

From Victoria Arbiters Twitter Feed:

Victoria Arbiter
@victoriaarbiter

For US viewers hoping to watch Prince Philip's funeral on Saturday
@NBCNews
has confirmed it will be carrying live coverage beginning at 9.30am ET. #PrincePhilip #Royal

and

Victoria Arbiter
@victoriaarbiter
·
1h
And, for Canadian viewers hoping to watch Prince Philip's funeral
@CTVNews
has just confirmed to me live (commercial free) coverage will begin at 8am EST and will include the Canadian memorial service. #PrincePhilip #Royal #Canada

Humor Me said…
@Magatha and fellow Nutties:
thank you for your poem and all your posts, and thank you to Nutty for a fresh column.
I cannot keep up with your posts!

As a proud 'Daughter of the American Revolution", it is not lost on me the irony of my feelings about the Monarchy. Philip, and HMTQ, and the royal family, have been a part of my 68 years on this earth. As the majority of my antecendants are from the British Isles, I have a "there but for the grace of God" moment; I am proud of the Long relationship between the USA and England. Allies in war and peace. I have visited London once - and always hope that I may return.

So i mourn with you and fret for the Queen at the antics of the "Second Sons" and pray for her and the family to have Peace. Actually, for all of us to have Peace.

Hikari said…
AnT,

I think I saw the same footage (of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor) a few years ago, because it killed the whole glamour aspect of their tale for me. Yeah, they could dress themselves thanks to the royal money, and friends. But they were really left as wandering, diminished, rather caged creatures, weren't they?

Comparing The Delusional Duck and Duck-Ass of Montecito with the D&D of Windsor was trending nearly as soon as they got together, when they started trying to monetize Sussex Royal, and some Internet wags had a lot of fun pasting Haz and Mess's heads onto old photos of David and Wallis. But as time goes on, and since the Schism of 2020, the parallels are inescapable. The chances had to be astronomical that the British Royal family would be infiltrated by a sociopathic American gold-digger through their weakest link not once but twice. Their manifestoes and their chafing to 'escape' so they could monetize their Royal brand and just play all day with multimillionaires is so stunningly similar.

We have to keep in mind that what David did was still much worse; in cahoots with Hitler, who he thought would place him back on the throne in a Vichy-style government presumably after the Luftwaffe, egged on by David from the Bahamas, had obliterated David's brother and his family. This is the quality of individual that Britain cut off in order to install her rightful King, is my view. The BRF was still pretty generous to the traitorous ex-King and his gold-digger, considering, but *their* grandiose plans for their post-Abdication lives didn't come to pass, either. The parties palled fast and they became nothing more than aging, pathetic curiosities, full of regrets.

In Harry's case #6, Not-remotely-close-to-being-favorite grandson, decided to pitch a tantrum and do a runner with his showgirl to Hollywood. Haz is and remains, constitutionally irrelevant. Where the Windsors and the Sussexes differ is that the insurrection David and Wallis were doing was kept hush-hush, between just themselves and various clandestine security services . . and private letters. They did not, to my knowledge, denounce the monarchy in the press and undermine the national confidence in it, even if what they were doing did constitute trying to set up a rival court. Publicly they pledged their support to the new King.

David may have tried to grandstand when coming back to Blighty for funerals but he was swiftly shut down from so doing. Harry and Meg get freer reign for their selfish antics from a sycophantic press that just won't STFU and is trying to play both sides.

The BRF will weather this storm but the Sussexes are going to continue as bleating juvenile irritants for as long as they can milk it.
AnT said…
@AvaC,
You, like Hikari, are certainly right about Harry and this being too short a stay for anything to sink in about what he has done, caused, harmed.

I suppose I just remain hopeful that something will fracture his smug peace. As you said so wonderfully above, she is entirely evil, while he is terrible but weak. I can only hope that weakness leaves room for a lifelong lament to take root and haunt him the rest of his days. Perhaps though, he is so empty and self-absorbed, that isn't possible. He still doesn't seem to think he was wrong about skipping the Deal ceremony for example.
Anonymous said…
@JHanoi

So much for MM making this week "not about her" haha
Everyday sources `close to her' drop new tidbits ...all about her.

It is very disappointing that the press is accommodating her. Is a one week moratorium too much to ask? Out of respect for Prince Philip and the Queen?
Hikari said…
AnT,

I suppose I just remain hopeful that something will fracture his smug peace. As you said so wonderfully above, she is entirely evil, while he is terrible but weak. I can only hope that weakness leaves room for a lifelong lament to take root and haunt him the rest of his days. Perhaps though, he is so empty and self-absorbed, that isn't possible. He still doesn't seem to think he was wrong about skipping the Deal ceremony for example.

I doubt Harry is experiencing true peace, and probably never has. He self-medicates to an alarming degree. We just really don't have a clue what their life of 'freedom' consists of behind closed doors. Even with Covid restrictions and unavoidable security concerns (despite their puffed-up self-aggrandizement, Harry's status does make them targets, and going out for a coffee run stroll like other celebs in L.A. would be difficult. Though I doubt anybody would recognize *her* if she wasn't with him, and that must just drive her even more insane)--this couple is massively secretive beyond all reason. Little August Philip is what, a month old? And already we've got more photos of him than exist of 'Archie' who is supposed to be two years old next month.

I mused in an earlier post that I'm coming around to the idea that Harry isn't just of below-average IQ; it's totally possible that he's got some sort of cognitive impairment. Actual brain damage, either congenital or as a result of the any number of sports injuries he's sustained--that visible goose egg on his forehead, for example. If he's sustained a brain injury that would explain some of his poor impulse control, anger and arrested development. A combination of intellectual disability, chronic substance abuse and stunted personality development might just mean that Harry is actually unable/unlikely to experience remorse or guilt or be able to participate in self-analysis.

We like to joke around about 'Half-wit Harry' but what if he really is . . brain-damaged and therefore not 100% culpable for an inability to make good decisions or focus on anything much long-term? The laissez-faire attitude of his elders in regards to his supervision when he was a young teen and the choices made for his schooling and 'career' in the Army--all designed to have him, at least for show, keeping pace with William--were certainly not in his best interest.

It's a tragic, tragic story. One with no end in sight at the present time, but its 'ending' is not going to be good news on any level.
Anonymous said…
@KCM1212

For US viewers hoping to watch Prince Philip's funeral on Saturday
@NBCNews
has confirmed it will be carrying live coverage beginning at 9.30am ET. #PrincePhilip #Royal

The trouble with the US coverage is that the TV hosts on every network feel the need to talk continuously. They never shut up and let the events speak for themselves.

Is the BBC the same? Or will they yammer on ad infinity also?


KCM1212 said…
@Hikari

You are spot on, as usual.

Although I would suggest that if there were anyone around today who had a shot at placing the Harkles on a throne, they would be all over that persons Christmas Card list.

I would hope they would decline to take out William et familia, but I wouldn't place any bets on it.
KCM1212 said…
@Rebecca

You are so right! I saw someone mention the BBC will be available on YouTube (probably after) or thru Roku, or some streaming services.

I get BBC through cable. I hope they won't chatter.

I will mute them, I swear.
AnT said…
Pregnant Meghan Markle's pregnancy with a baby
kept her from attending Prince Philip's funeral with
the non-pregnant Royals, leaving a pregnant pause
for all to wonder "Can Harry cope without his wife
who was grounded by her pregnancy?"


By Facetia Rachel Arklem

As the world mourned the loss of Prince Philip, loyal consort of Queen Elizabeth who herself was pregnant four times with children resulting from pregnancy, all hearts and minds were centered on just one thing: Would Prince Harry, the issue of Princess Diana's most important pregnancy, be able to attend the funeral for the royal consort who favored Harry and his pregnant wife Meghan above all others?

Unfortunately, the answer was an uneasy one. Harry, husband of philanthropist Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, could attend because his family longed for his presence, and also because he was not pregnant. As has long been discussed in scholarly halls, men do not endure the burden of pregnancy, and have created an unequal world where pregnant women like Meghan Markle are often left behind and cut from invitation lists as they endure the misogynistic travails of being pregnant, the result of having been made pregnant by the very men who deny them the right to travel to world events when pregnant.

Today, pregnant Meghan Markle is alone in her house in California, during a pandemic, struggling to take care of the result of her first pregnancy, while heavily pregnant with her second, after her privileged husband Harry jetted off unencumbered to England for the services for his late grandfather, who lived a celebrated life but also was a man who did not have to suffer travel bans due to pregnancy.

A source tells us that pregnant Meghan is "being brave about being pregnant just now, though astonished by how the archaic and racist royal family chose to schedule a formal funeral without her" just because her pregnancy left her pregnant and unable to travel. The source said, "Meghan is aware she may give birth at any time, though certainly in a more modern and civilized fashion than Harry's cousin Zara, who was forced to give birth on a bathroom floor just because she is a woman in an archaic sexist family." Meghan, who is pregnant and alone this week, has a lavish birthing suite in her mansion, complete with flute players and small waterfall, thanks to her "Hollywood friends who insisted this baby be born in proper Oscar-worthy style, and not the frightening, antiquated atmosphere that little Archie endured."

How is Harry coping away from his prepared and pregnant young bride? "He calls her nonstop, and misses her deeply," confides a source. "He Zooms with her and Archie constantly, and worries because, in fact, Meghan is pregnant and may have a baby anytime between right now and the Fall. This is weighing heavily Harry. He is therefore adding a new service to his Travalyst enterprise which will be known as Pregalyst, to help pregnant women like Meghan, who is pregnant, find destinations that will accept them in their pregnant state and private jets who will fly them. He hopes some good can come from this latest slight to his pregnant wife, who already endured so much abuse from his family."

When asked about Meghan's trip to New York City from London when she was heavily pregnant during her pregnancy with son Archie, the source pointed out that "Meghan was only about two to six months pregnant at that time, nobody really knew due to the mysteries of pregnancy, whereas now she is like three to eleven months. As Meghan says, It is a pity a woman isn't on the throne, because then this sort of thing wouldn't happen anymore. But she is being brave."
Hikari said…
@KCM1212,

I would hope they would decline to take out William et familia, but I wouldn't place any bets on it.

The Harkles don't really want to be King and Queen of Britain. Mugs is all about status and material things, so would she love to festoon herself in the Crown jewels, plunk her flat ass down on the throne and 'rule' in Buckingham Palace? Sure--in the same way that little kids dream about being Disney Princesses and Marvel superheroes. Nothing they say or do is grounded in reality. Harry would love to supplant his brother and crow that 'he won!' . . he gets ALL the toys and the biggest house and courtiers to wipe his arse, he doesn't even have to do that for himself.

But imagine Harry as King. After no more than 5 minutes with his first Red Box, realizing that being King isn't fun after all--it's slogging through *paperwork* with tons of hard words in it, and having boring meetings all day long with the Prime Minister and sundry supplicants . . He's not capable. They both want all the trappings of absolute power with none of the actual work involved.

The Harkles aren't organized or dynamic enough to take anybody out, except for trying to assassinate them through ill-judged press pieces. Let's just say if anybody will be taking anyone 'out'--it's gonna be King William Corleone V. He has warned traitorous Hazbean Fredo not to take sides against the family. We know what happened when Fredo didn't listen. When William ascends, Haz-Fredo, if he's still with us, will have reasons to wish he was never born.

If I could advise William right now, I'd tell him that he wants a wartime consigliere for what's coming. He needs Lord Geidt in his corner.
@AnT, be careful or she's going to try to hire you!
Ralph L said…
my note: Princess Margaret also rests in the Royal Vault.

The DM said her ashes are in the George VI chapel, but they probably also said she's on the chimneypiece in Frog Cott.
KCM1212 said…
@Ant

Lololololol. I want some of whatever is in your coffee cup, girl! You are on FIRE!

HG Tudor has a couple of videos out on the demise of Prince Philip and Markles response to it

https://narcsite.com/2021/04/11/meghan-markle-a-less-than-royal-narcissist-part-38-1-the-dukes-demise/

is the first. Going to listen now.
@Rebecca, the BBC chattered through the first half of the gun salute. They shut up about halfway through and switched to occasional informational comments so I wonder if something was said behind the scenes.
KCM1212 said…
@Hikari


"If I could advise William right now, I'd tell him that he wants a wartime consigliere for what's coming. He needs Lord Geidt in his corner."

THIS!
Hikari said…
AnT,

Having already awarded you a latte and a dozen pastries for 'hoof covers', I'm now stumped as to how I can properly honor 'Pregalyst'. I think that entire article rates a case of Crown Royal and a hot tub date with Hot Rob in Montecito. If you prefer some libation other than Crown Royal (a personal favorite of mine), feel free to substitute another, but make it nice and alcoholic.

I am still wiping my eyes.
Christine said…
Hello All-

Great reading as usual. So much good stuff. It's like going to a really good buffet and not knowing what exactly to eat because it's so good. I agree London Gent! And a bow to you as well.

A few things-

Beautiful poem Magatha!

I didn't know Wills was nicknamed Basher! Kind of cool

Meghan and Harry ARE Wallis and Edward. Do you believe in reincarnation? I don't but I might start.

The Royal Family released some pics that I haven't seen before. Such sweet pictures of Philip with his grandkids, etc. One pic has baby Charlotte staring at her Grandmother and the Queen looking back. I'll see if I can get a decent tag of them.
Girl with a Hat said…
you can also probably stream the funeral on cbc or on australian television and it will be calmer and more sombre.
Christine said…
Well here's the DM link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9471405/Prince-Philip-Kate-William-release-photo-duke-Queen-seven-great-grandchildren.html
AnT said…
@Hikari,
My pleasure. The best defense is a chuckle.
London Gent said…
Here's one for HRH the Duke of Edinburgh, who once said a favourite joke of his was the American tourist who wanted to know, 'Why did they build Windsor Castle so close to the airport'?

https://newsthump.com/2021/04/10/meghan-markle-claims-prince-philip-had-a-small-private-burial-three-days-ago/
xxxxx said…
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Hikari said…
@Ralph,

I initially queried Google about PM's final resting place and what I got back was the Royal Vault in St. George's. This excerpt is from a contemporaneous article in the Irish Times:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ashes-of-princess-to-be-put-beside-father-s-coffin-1.1050235

BRITAIN: Buckingham Palace has confirmed that the body of Princess Margaret will be cremated at Slough Crematorium after Friday's "royal private" funeral service in Saint George's Chapel, Windsor. Thereafter her ashes will be placed in a casket beside the coffin of her father, the late King George VI, in the castle's Royal Vault.

The break with royal tradition apparently reflects the princess's desire to be reunited with her beloved father in death. It is believed cremation was the only option as there is no more room in the Royal Vault where he is buried.

Despite the concerns of her doctors Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, is said to be determined to attend her younger daughter's funeral, which falls 50 years to the day of her husband's burial at Windsor.


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The Queen Mother lived to see her youngest daughter buried; she passed away 7 weeks later. According to Wikipedia, one week after the QM's death, she was interred in the King George VI Memorial Chapel alongside her husband, and the ashes of her younger daughter were transported then also, to be placed beside her father's coffin, in accordance with her wishes. If Margaret had survived her mother, her ashes would have gone directly to the resting place of her father, just like if Philip had survived the Queen, I suppose his body would have been immediately interred in the King George VI Chapel alongside her. In death, as in life, Philip must follow after the Queen. (Though I take personal comfort in thinking of him having been able to run ahead of her once to that better place where he waits for her to join him.) Though not too soon, Your Majesty.

From Wiki:
Margaret's coffin, draped in her personal standard, was taken from Kensington Palace to St James's Palace before her funeral.[163] The funeral was held on 15 February 2002, the 50th anniversary of her father's funeral.[164] In line with her wishes, the ceremony was a private service at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, for family and friends.[165] Unlike most other members of the royal family, Princess Margaret was cremated, at Slough Crematorium.[166] Her ashes were placed in the Royal Vault in St George's Chapel before being transferred to the tomb of her parents, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother (who died seven weeks after Margaret), in the King George VI Memorial Chapel two months later.[167][164][168] A state memorial service was held at Westminster Abbey on 19 April 2002.[169]

I suppose it goes without saying that ex-spouses don't rate a berth in a royal vault. Diana's at Althorp and the late Earl Snowdon, who died in 2017, is also in his family plot.
Christine said…
Kate is a beautiful woman but I hope she never cuts those bangs again! :)
xxxxx said…
"An Army Scholar, Geidt enlisted in the Scots Guards and attended the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He was later commissioned in the Intelligence Corps.[9]" --Wikipedia

"If I could advise William right now, I'd tell him that he wants a wartime consigliere for what's coming. He needs Lord Geidt in his corner."
_______________

Lord Geidt is only 59. I thought he was in his 80s --- He is clever and connected to the max! Thus he is probably busy making money in the private sector. None the less I am sure he would do his patriotic duty to serve as a frequent advisor to Prince William.

For those unfamiliar with Lord Geidt, he was the Queen's advisor for years. Charles and Andrew stupidly conspired to force him out, to get rid of him as if he were a lowly errand boy for the Queen. Geidt is 20x smarter than Charles and Andrew combined.

"After ten years as Queen's Private Secretary, Geidt stepped down in October 2017." - Wikipedia
BTW:

from the Moonbump.com website:

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Let it not be said that she didn't patronise British industry... (tel area code is 01462 - Hitchen, Herts)
TheGrangle said…
@Maneki Neko

Thank you! I find generally french investigative journalism to be pretty good, they seem to be able to make full use of their Liberté, particularly for stories relating to egalité and fraternité. Documentaries on the suicide scandal at France Telecom and Renault for example were hard hitting and thorough.The Royal family remain of great interest to the Republic and the Queen is very much respected, so there is a similar sense of unease here at how she and the family have been treated. Adelaide de Clermont Tonnere is well connected and is a descendant of Princess Isabelle d'Orleans and Jean des Cars has written a biography of the Queen and I certainly had the feeling throughout that they all knew more about Madam than it would have been decent to say at the moment and whilst the Royal family are mourning Prince Philip.

I would love the Oprah tea to be verified - Someone further down the linked thread said that Oprahs production team had all been asked to sign NDAs as a result. If it's true and it comes out, the rest will hopefully unravel very quickly.

AnT said…
@Hikari,

Excellent point — William needs Lord Geidt indeed, this minute, now. Perhaps the connection has been made.....
Anonymous said…
@AnT

Hour Pregalyst piece is positively brilliant. It should be featured in the Daily Mail.
KCM1212 said…
HGTudor nails it.

The second part is dead on.

https://narcsite.com/2021/04/11/meghan-markle-a-less-than-royal-narcissist-part-38-2-the-dukes-demise/
AnT said…
@Rebecca,

Lol, many thanks! Just trying to keep us all prepped and buffered against the next barrage of nonsense press from Meghan, and this seemed like her next likely path. I suspect she will try to double the crazy by Friday.
Anonymous said…
Meghan better get cracking on photoshopping images of herself, Jin Jah and phantom Archie with the DoE and the Queen. Maybe in her yoga room at Frog Cot.
London Gent said…

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1382378241437138945
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

I keep meaning to say this, and clicking on HG Tudor’s latest reminds me so here we go:

Am I the only one who is 100% certain that Hugh Grant is the voice of HG Tudor? I would bet any amount on it. The same unique rhythms and cadences throughout, the same joking air behind the words, the rush, the slow, the verbalizations of certain words. It is uncanny. Either Hugh knows the writer and enjoys and relates to the content, or is the writer. I cannot shake this supposition. Someone tell me why I am incorrect.
AnT said…
@Rebecca,

Ha! I love it. Yes! You know she is screeching at her team to create the images, and you know some fed-up intern is adding a third subtle chicken leg.
Hikari said…
@xxxx.

For those unfamiliar with Lord Geidt, he was the Queen's advisor for years. Charles and Andrew stupidly conspired to force him out, to get rid of him as if he were a lowly errand boy for the Queen. Geidt is 20x smarter than Charles and Andrew combined.

I respect the Queen a great deal, but from time to time in her reign, she has committed several quite inexplicable blunders which have been incredibly damaging in the long-term out of proportion to how they must have seemed to her at the time. Most of the time, her (rare) missteps are rooted in her desire to avoid conflict within her family and an absolute anathema to having her rigid personal routines disrupted. Her strategies have probably aided her in attaining such a great age, but there are times when they have not worked in her favor. Aberfan, the public tiff with the PM in the 1970s over trade sanctions with South Africa due to apartheid; her avoidance of the Diana matter until forced to make a public display . . to these we must add allowing her most trusted, competent and valuable senior aide to be run out of his position by her petulant children.

Courtiers come and go; and over nearly 70 years as monarch, she's seen a lot of staff turnover, and outlived most of them. It may have seemed like the preferable course to keep the peace in her family and let go the source of the tension, albeit with a nice pension and a later sinecure appointment to the QCT Youth Ambassadors program, where his brief, ostensibly, was to babysit Meghan and Harry.

Letting Charles and Andrew make life so unpleasant for her Private Secretary that he decided to leave--at the PRECISE TIME she was going to need him most, though no one could have predicted, a month before the Sussex engagement, how bad their behavior would get--is shaping up to be one of those rather epic sovereign blunders that probably seemed innocuous at the time. This was four years ago; the fact that ER let Lord Geidt go with so little fuss, accepting the Charles-approved pushover Sir Edward Young in his place might have been an early indication that HM was losing the stomach for the mantle of rule.

Since when do One's disagreeable boys get to decide One's most important staff, all on the basis of 'We don't like him, Mummy'? Apparently the tensions arose from what ER's chinless boys felt was a lack of deference to them from her lackey and his diligence as her gatekeeper. Ie, they couldn't get past him to see Mummy whenever they felt like it. The flame that lit the final torch seems to have been Charles getting his nose out of joint over his staff not being cc'ed in a memo about a meeting at BP. Whether Clarence House was relevant to this meeting is unknown, but Charles used that as the excuse to get Geidt sacked (officially called a 'resignation'). This may have been the only time in their lives that Charles and Andrew were actually united about something and the novelty must have caught HM unawares and made her flustered. I have no other explanation.

Hikari said…
How different (for the better) might things be now if HM had called her agitating sons in to her and boxed both of their ears and sent them off with a 'Lord Geidt will remain Our most valuable servant--get over yourselves and stop irritating Mummy. Don't make me tell Daddy that you both are being prats."?

The Private Secretary is, as best as this American can tell, akin to the President's Chief of Staff. The closest advisor to the head of state; the one who helps him/her the most to set the agenda for the day/week/month/year. The chief Aide-de-Camp; the one who has final approval of all meetings/speeches/communications involving their boss that gets released, and who oversees the other staff serving the head of state. Without question, 'the' most valuable aide a person in such a powerful position can have, and not easily replaced on a dime. The one who fills that position should not be subject to the whim's of the head of state's children. But that's exactly what happened with Lord G.

Charles's ego was threatened by someone of such strong character, someone not sycophantic enough to his rank, so LG had to go. With ER's heir and her favorite agitating for Geidt's removal, ER bowed to the pressure to keep the kids happy. To the detriment of us all, I can't help feeling. It's too late now for do-overs, but it does seem that Charles owes LG an apology. If LG is not completely burned out on the Royal family and would be amenable to working for William, he would be a valuable asset. He need not interact personally with Charles . . but Chas would do well to get over being butt-hurt and recognize the advantage to having LG back on-side. The RF is going to senior staff who aren't afraid of going to the mattresses to protect the monarchy. I think LG and William could work very productively together. LG is seasoned; it'd be a shame to keep him on the discard pile.

If Charles doesn't toughen up and see the error of his egocentric approach to staffing, then he deserves what's coming his way, is all I can say.
AnT said…
@Hikari,

That disposal of Lord Geidt — now Baron Geidt, I believe? — for such a ridiculous reason is shocking. Allowing her sons to dictate who would be banished from such a key role? Well, it explains much of the chaos that has occurred since then. After that, I hope Geidt would be amenable to a return. Do you remember the photo in which he holds Megs’s hand in a death grip as he bends to give her a Michael Corleone kiss? She was unnerved. He knew about her, I am convinced and so I hope WIlliam can reach out to him in some way, or has Lord Geidt on the job behind the scenes as of mid-March. Geidt’s extensive work in international intelligence gives him the chops to suss out the truth of Megs and her cronies. I wonder what he thinks of all this.
Humor Me said…
@AnT and "Facetia Rachel Arklem"

What a good summary - thanks for the laugh.
Christine said…
Sorry I know many of you mentioned this, but I just got the chance to read this and I call complete and utter bullsh*t on this story that Meghan wrote and released about 'Kate set to be peacemaker between William and Harry'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9469009/Harry-William-reunited-time-morning-Philips-funeral.html

Meghan knows that the death and funeral of Philip has cast a VERY bad pallor on her and Harry since the interview. She is desperately trying to turn the narrative here. Most of the world believes that the party that has to make peace is the party that lives in California. The entire tone and tenor of this story is sociopathic narcissism. So William needs to apologize and make peace??? For exactly what. What has William done that he needs to atone to Harry? Is there something us plebs have missed? OHHH because he asked his brother to use caution and wait a bit before proposing to 'this girl'. Katherine the Duchess of Cambridge, wife and mother of the future King's children has to play peacemaker. Katherine who was ripped to shreds in that incredibly passive/aggressive story that Meghan spouted to world. It's unbelievable in it's hubris, but that's Meg for ya.

AnT said…
@Hikari,

I think Charles is a write-off. He won’t toughen up, not suddenly in his 70s. Plus, he is compromised by his recent major mistakes. William is the only hope, and I hope he can be as demanding of his father (and Queen) as Charles was with the Queen.

You have me thinking about that four-years-ago timing. I wonder if Andrew knew that Lord Geidt knew much too much about the Epstein thing, and was eager for once for that reason to step up and second Charles’ pouting desire to remove Geidt over trivial power issues?
AnT said…
@Christine said “it’s unbelievable in its hubris” and “that’s Megs for you!” Exactly. I completely share your view; it’s utter BS.
Ava C said…
@AnT - Pregalyst - absolute genius!

Funny you mentioning that photo of Geidt and Megan as I was thinking of it earlier today. The only time I've seen her visibly rattled. What an idiot Charles was to get rid of Geidt, or rather, force Mummy to get rid of Geidt. If Charles was Henry VIII he'd have tried to have the Reformation without Thomas Cromwell.
Museumstop said…
Sorry if this has been posted and discussed, but given the Tom Bradby analysis we have had here, this should be interesting. Bradby will host ITV coverage of the funeral.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9471673/Tom-Bradby-helm-ITVs-coverage-Prince-Philips-funeral-despite-Prince-William-fall-out.html
London Gent said…
@ Christine and others,

Yes, of course you're right. "Most of the world believes that the party that has to make peace is the party that lives in California."

Even Americans. Whilst it seems that too many Americans are in thrall to wokism and other hysteria, the Harkles are losing whatever cachet they may have had, or still have, fairly rapidly. Just why Americans have given themselves over to such a time of national madness, such as has not been seen since the Salem Witch Trials, allowing the Harkles amongst them to enjoy some kind of Robespierre-like stature, is completely and utterly beyond me. I can only hope it passes, and fairly quickly, before lasting damage is done.

But the signs are there. The barrage of PR is even penetrating the minds of the wokest of leftists, even those die-hards who (even them) cannot ignore reality forever. It smacks too loudly and stridently (and humiliatingly) of desperation. Not to mention falsehood. And disrespect. The sh***ng in their own beds, the biting of the hand that feeds, the craven insistence that 'they only mean the best' even as they do the very thing they claim they are not ... Shakespeare said it centuries ago. And the Royal Family knows it. The longer they rise above the fray, without saying a word, the faster the serpent will eat its own tail.

I'm seeing signs of mockery sprouting like green spring shoots everywhere, where once there would have been groveling. Getting harder to protest that the Emperor's new clothes do in fact exist. Markle LIED in the interview. Harry WHINGED about getting 'cut off' whilst enjoying millions. During a PANDEMIC. People don't forget these things. Americans won't, either. And where you see mockery, you see the beginning of the end of the Pretenders.

Even the slime that inhabits the halls of Hollywood. Let's see how many 'A-listers' 'flock' to Markle's 'even bigger than Archie's' 'baby shower' 'blowout'. This will be, or already is, a bellwether for the Netflixes, Spotifys et al. of the world who will think twice about risking any kind of money on the Harkles.

My takeaway: They're b**sh**t crazy. As in, sectionable. They are not going to last much longer.

Ava C said…
@Museumstop - couldn't believe that about Bradby covering the funeral for ITV. Crass. Cue amazement on Twitter. Asking if it's April Fool's Day again.

I really don't see what ITV are playing at, especially now the tide is visibly turning on Oprah and Gayle. People are losing patience with Sussexist traitors (appropriate new word since Meghan is single-handedly setting pregnant women's liberation back by at least 50 years).

I'd be less surprised if it was the Wokeist BBC. Maybe it's in Bradby's contract with ITV that he gets the big-time jobs, the way David Dimbleby did at the BBC.
KCM1212 said…
@museumstop

William is not going to like that much. Perhaps he and H can sit in special gazebo together and ask attendees "who are you wearing?"

Thats pretty snarky, but he certainly does not deserve to cover this event.

Oh, AnT
Now I'll never un-hear Hugh Grant! Lol, I usually prefer reading opinion, so this is the first time I've listened to him. He does have a yummy deep voice and a nice accent. I will listen to the next with Hugh in mind.

He does a funny bit about picking up his "chickens of authenticity" from his butcher. He's named one David Peckham, and another Cluck Morris.
Ava C said…
On second thoughts I'm pleased about ITV's decision. People can show their support for William by watching the BBC funeral coverage and then the advertisers will want to know what the hell happened. Money talks. Better than a petition.

Honestly, the funeral hasn't even happened yet and already it's degenerated into who says what, who has to apologise and "Mummeeee! I want to wear a Vice-Admiral's uniform! I'm old enough now!!!"
Museumstop said…
@Ava C
@KCM1212

Now imagine if during his coverage, he includes a live dial-in, zoom-in from Meghan. The way she had the cameo on Harry's bus tour with Corden. Would Archie feature?
London Gent said…
Son of the mother. https://archive.ph/Kam84

So they're ~all~ going to be in civvies, so that ~no one~ walks away without a prize?!? That's the suggestion, anyway.

And for anyone who thinks it's trivial ... it's not. Not by a long shot.

Honestly, Your Majesty, do NOT dismiss your veteran subjects and their families like this. You will regret it. Even after all these decades.

Please. PLEASE remember your husband's long service, and huge service in World War II.

Don't do it.

Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari said

I mused in an earlier post that I'm coming around to the idea that Harry isn't just of below-average IQ
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I think we can say that Harry is not a great academic, however this has nothing to do with IQ. If his IQ was below average - and to measure this he'd need to do a properly administered standard IQ test - this would have come across in the past during interviews. Pre Megalo, he seemed normal enough when he spoke and interacted with friends etc. He might not have been professor of astrophysics material, granted, but that doesn't mean his IQ is below average.

I used to know a woman who left school at 14 and was definitely not academic. She was, however, quite intelligent and clever. The problem here with Harry is his emotional IQ. This is where he is lacking. He is weak, as has been mentioned before, and I think easily led, which is a disastrous combination now that he's with Markle. He really needs deprogramming.


Hikari said…
@Ant

William is the only hope, and I hope he can be as demanding of his father (and Queen) as Charles was with the Queen.

I think William has, and will always be, deferential to the Queen. He'd likely not insert himself into staffing issues or things that are the Queen's purview while his granny is alive. Charles was emboldened by his position as heir to be a squeaky wheel about Mummy's staff. If William were currently Prince of Wales, he'd have more clout, but as it is, he has to wait upon his elders. I do think he has not been afraid to make his voice heard in all this--he went to Granny and got the Gruesome Twosome relocated from KP. He must have persuasively stated his position because it worked--the Harkles got kicked out. He's been a sport and made the ceremonial appearances alongside the two tossers that he was expected to, but his own personal feelings are still visible due to his RBF and his talent for impromptu scarfing. Also his ability to walk (away) fast. The last Trooping appearance was very instructive . . normally Wills and his family are center balcony flanking the Queen, as befits his status. The way he hustled his family to the farthest side of the balcony from the Harkles he could get without his wife going over the side was indicative of how he prefers to handle this conflict with Harry. Ie, Stay as far away as humanly possible. Do not engage. Do not look at him/it. Walk fast. Thank God Kate has long legs and can keep up. He probably fears losing control and smashing the little prick's face in if he gets too near because cameras will capture it all.

William has not been afraid over the years to have it out with his father. I don't think he'd be afraid to hire LG because his father wouldn't like it. Baron Geidt is obviously the best go-to guy for the current situation, or he could put William in touch with some of his friends who are of a similar cast of mind. To what extent William has full autonomy over his advisors is unclear, but they probably have to be vetted by the Palace. Once William *is* the Palace, he can hire whom he likes, but BG is the perfect age right *now* to be of service. If they wait until William is King, or even Prince of Wales, BG might feel he is too old. Plus, now that he's a Baron, why go back to the grind of Royal service?

Charles really screwed the pooch on that one. If Geidt is only 59 now (same age as Diana would have been) and served for 10 years, retired for four, he was appointed Private Secretary while only mid-40s, surely rather young for such a senior post, and having already had a career in intelligence? He must be an exceptional person. And maybe the only person in the world who can put the frighteners on Madam? She was in no way awed by the Queen, who must have seemed to her like just another frumpy old biddy to run roughshod over. But BG made her poop herself a bit. He's probably very well-versed in interrogation and has dealt with many sociopathic Narcs in his time. That's why he was such a loss to the Firm. Charles is a bonehead because if he'd kept LG around, he could have referred all of Harry's whining calls for handouts to *him*. How often would Harry phone up to abuse Granny and Pa if the only person he could get on the line was LG? The whining from California would have dried right up, I imagine.

Hikari said…
How Harry can even entertain walking into that service and facing everyone is beyond me. Only 29 other people there and he's screwed them all over. Nowhere to hide. I'm toying with the idea that he won't attend after all. If he's actually in the UK, he may lose his bottle at the last moment. OR--if there are plans afoot for an 'Extract Hazza' operation, perhaps it will be announced on Saturday morning, just before the service that due to testing positive for Covid-19, the Duke of Sussex will be unable to attend. That would buy him, what, 2 weeks of uninterrupted Meghan-free time for deprogramming . . whether or not he actually tests positive. That is just what Meg and the world will be told. Harry's phone and laptop will have been confiscated as potentially contaminated. I really hope that she has not been able to reach him in any form, despite calling and texting every 10 minutes. If he does show, speculation over the body language between him and William; who looks at him, who doesn't, who does or does not speak to him, etc., will threaten to overshadow the guest of honor. With such a small group of mourners it will be impossible to NOT show Harry, however devoutly that would be wished for.

You have me thinking about that four-years-ago timing. I wonder if Andrew knew that Lord Geidt knew much too much about the Epstein thing, and was eager for once for that reason to step up and second Charles’ pouting desire to remove Geidt over trivial power issues?

That is a very plausible theory. Andrew aligning with Charles didn't seem to be a natural fit in all of this. Chas would have many more dealings with the Queen's private secretary than Andrew would have, just in the normal course of things. Andy's all about his titles and proper deference too . . but if Sir Christopher was ex-intelligence, it's safe to assume that he knows a lot about where certain unsavory skeletons may be buried.

I guess the Queen made him a Baron by way of apology for sacking him, eh? Which means his peerage even outranks Edward's.
Museumstop said…
@London Gent

If that's what comes to pass, then shame, utter shame.

It also means that Harry rather than remorseful, has been Meghanised beyond cure. Alas Hikari, your fears for him may just come true.
Ava C said…
I can't get over the tone of MM's PR, the latest one to come out being Vanity Fair, quoting the source(s) we heard earlier:

Meghan Markle Reportedly “Wishes” She Could Attend Prince Philip’s Funeral to “Support” Prince Harry

What are supposed to be the most heart-rending bits are actually the ones that make you want to shake her so hard her wig falls off ...

Meghan Markle reportedly would’ve been at Prince Philip’s funeral this weekend were it not for her pregnancy, regardless of any lingering tension between her and the rest of the royal family.

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She would have put all the family tension aside to be there with Harry,” the source added.

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it seems that Harry would’ve preferred to have his wife with him, as well, as Us Weekly reported on Tuesday that he’s very worried about leaving his pregnant wife back in America

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he worries [about] leaving her when she’s so far along in her pregnancy,”

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Harry wants to make sure Meghan and the baby are healthy and not involved in stressful situations,” especially given that she suffered a miscarriage last summer.


That last one is ... oh I just don't have the words.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/04/meghan-markle-attend-prince-philip-funeral-support-prince-harry-pregnant
Maneki Neko said…
@TheGrangle and other Nutties

Re the French TV programme you were watching, RMC Story dévoile la face cachée de Meghan et Harry - RMC Story reveals the hidden side of Meghan and Harry - I looked up the title and found the article. You can translate it into English (see the bottom of your screen).

It's nice to see it in print. I hope the word spreads.

https://tvmag.lefigaro.fr/programme-tv/rmc-story-devoile-la-face-cachee-de-meghan-et-harry_81f44288-9ba9-11eb-b05b-ee8394de8b98/



Peppa said…
I've learned that Martha MacCallum of Fox News will be covering Prince Philip's funeral at 9 a.m. Martha covered William & Catherine's wedding. I will be watching her commentary as I've always been very fond of her. I like her style & personality. Although she will probably have some comments about Harry, I'd rather watch the news network that called out H & M 's BS rather than coddle them. She's lovely, I think you won't regret tuning in.
London Gent said…
@ Blogger Hikari said...
How Harry can even entertain walking into that service and facing everyone is beyond me. Only 29 other people there and he's screwed them all over. Nowhere to hide.

Would take a lot more bottle than ANYONE would ever have. Knowing he is in fact, the JUDAS everyone knows him to be.

@ Blogger Museumstop said...
@London Gent

'If that's what comes to pass, then shame, utter shame.'

Yes. It also means that Harry rather than remorseful, has been Meghanised beyond cure. Alas Hikari, your fears for him may just come true.

Museumstrop, this is exactly what every military trains AGAINST, the Meghanisation of the enemy. Give it up, admit your wrongdoing, go ahead, you know you're wrong. What use is it to train, then? Eh, Harry? Blegh. Step away, man. Don't be Lord Haw Haw. You will die a piece of sh**te that no one feels sorry for.

Not that I think it will drill through his thick head. Was the undoing of better men than him in history. Just hope he goes down the drain, and quickly.

JHanoi said…
The military uniform thing is an interesting dilemma for HM.

Because PP was a decorated serviceman during WW2 and proud member of the military, would have probably been his career choice inder different circumstances. So uniforms make sense at his funeral.

But alot have the honorary titles and have served , but only PAndrew and PH have served in war. So having only those two in civies doesnt make sense to me.

PH was earned was promoted to Captain, so since his Honorary stuff was taken away, why cant he just wear the Captain uniform that he earned? It wont have as many shiney colorful baubles on it, but his ascetic is more California now, so its cleaner and modern lol.

PAndrew is a little stickier, he earned Commander, and last had honorary Vice Admiral. He should not wear Admiral. Id either keep him at Commander or Vice Admiral, but he stays in the shadows to not distract from the day.

The rest can wear their earned or honorary uniforms.

Jmo
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Snarkyatherbest said…
Ava c. Second sons.

Can these royals (Andrew and Barry) stop acting like it’s about them ans think about honoring their dad and no bugging their mom with idiot requests. They seriously need to reopen Tower of London.
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London Gent said…
@ JHanoi,

The Queen, as Head of State, has the last word on protocol.

Protocol states that Royal office-holders hold their officers at her pleasure. Normally, office-holders of Royal Honoraries appear in their uniforms at all State occasions. That is, whose honoraries have been earned many times over by service, such as by HRH, for example, Royal Australian Corps of Signals. This is only ONE military obligation the Princess Royal has held. Do an Internet search on how many times she has sought out her corps, and how much they think of her.

If anyone has the right to wear the uniform, it is she.

But ... the 'Harkles ....' ..... so hard done by .....



Button said…
@ Hikari and others who wonder the same thing.
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I too, do not understand how the hell Handbag can even dare show up at HRH The Prince Philips` funeral and sendoff. If he had just one iota of a clue, he would have given some excuse as to why he could not attend and have had his flunkies draft a letter, that would eventually been seen in the dallies, as to why not.
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Seriously, perhaps he just doesn't really give a shite about it all and is just there to stir the pot and graft some more ' freebies ' by way of blackmail.
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Who the hell knows.
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Sad state of affairs.
JennS said…
Gosh, that is very disappointing that Bradby has been tasked to cover the funeral for ITV!
That decision seems meanspirited.
Why upset the family during a funeral?
Are they shorthanded? What does ITV have against the monarchy?
Ava C said @Museumstop - couldn't believe that about Bradby covering the funeral for ITV. Crass. Cue amazement on Twitter. Asking if it's April Fool's Day again.

I really don't see what ITV are playing at, especially now the tide is visibly turning on Oprah and Gayle....


The majority of the DM’s article stating he’s covering it are pretty scathing and rightly so. I’ll be watching the funeral via Sky News. I can’t stomach the BBC and avoid it whenever I can.

Not sure if this has been posted already...apologies if so.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9471673/Tom-Bradby-helm-ITVs-coverage-Prince-Philips-funeral-despite-Prince-William-fall-out.html
Nelo said…
So it's been confirmed that Bradby will be doing a special on Philip's funeral. He will definitely be interviewing Harry and possibly the Yorks. Its obvious the Yorks are now in an alliance with the Sussexes.
London Gent said…
@ Jenns,

So, the fake-y Hollywood-y stuff Markle wants to emulate, isn't the Emerald City, lol. And now people are seeing it. Rest assured, they are.
London Gent said…
Just would like to point out to our SAINT MEGHAN, She who is the Patron of All that is Good, that .... someone else beat her to it.

Actress Hedy Lamarr.

From Wikipedia - 'At the beginning of World War II, Lamarr and composer George Antheil developed a radio guidance system using frequency-hopping spread spectrum technology for Allied torpedoes, intended to defeat the threat of jamming by the Axis powers.[10] She also helped improve aircraft aerodynamics for Howard Hughes while they dated during the war.[11] Although the US Navy did not adopt Lamarr and Antheil's invention until 1957,[3][12] various spread-spectrum techniques are incorporated into Bluetooth technology and are similar to methods used in legacy versions of Wi-Fi.[13][14][15] Recognition of the value of their work resulted in the pair being posthumously inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame.'

Markle's contribution .......................
SirStinxAlot said…
Maybe Im cruel but this seems like such a snub to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/royal-family-releases-unseen-pictures-170942734.html

No Archie of course, and not photos of PP with him bei g published by the media either. Lmao I love subtle shade.
Este said…
I think having everyone wear plain clothes might be the best move strategically speaking and not because I have any sympathy for the Harry Meg but simply because I think it risks overplaying their upper hand here. I feel like between everyone knowing they dropped that interview packed with lies and half truths while grandpa was gravely ill, William's massive (and well earned) dig at them in his glowing tribute of his wife and children having a grandpa and now the picture of all the grandchildren BUT Archie is enough. The uniform issue might be overkill, especially with Andrew trying to maneuver his way to getting one. I think the point's been made. I also don't think Harry would have made the trip to skip the funeral, if for no other reason how it would make him look. I imagine tho he must have some feeling for his grandfather and if so is gonna have to live with dropping the interview knowing his was dying and knowing that the British public knows it too. Meghan had a real dilemma here....worldwide coverage BEING there versus being in the same room with family who despise her. My guess is Hazza made the decision for her. Now way Fredo could go back with her. I think even dimwitted Fredo knew that.

This is a complex game of chess and you know what they say about revenge...it's a dish best served cold.
Snarkyatherbest said…
The Andrew tantrum. Do you think Phillip helped the queen to make the decision to push Andrew into private life and now that Phillip isn’t around he’s thinking “I can work my way back in, finally”

Hikari. Your comment about Harry not surviving long- a friend and I were talking about this today. The narc talked a lot about her mental health and suicide issues with Oprah and we know narcs take something true and twist them. Maybe he’s been suicidal and she convinced him to be bold and leave. And then they get to California and covid hits further isolating him for over a year. And now he goes to England and realize what he has lost Easily could see him spiral down.Megs could be looking at an inheritance instead of a divorce pay out and can use the grieving widow act to land hubby number 3 or 4.
Museumstop said...

Sorry if this has been posted and discussed, but given the Tom Bradby analysis we have had here, this should be interesting. Bradby will host ITV coverage of the funeral.

Thanks, I hadn't seen it - I'll watch BBC & record ITV
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London Gent said…
@SirStinxaLot, just wondering ...

How do you see the Royal Family in the future?
London Gent said…
@JennS -- Okay, this is the wrong answer --
@London Gent

"Yes folks are seeing it and what a relief that is! If you have a chance check out my similar post for Oprah - there were a lot more people who returned specifically to express disgust after Prince Philip died.

I don't know when Oprah is going to back down though. She has not admitted to the falsified headlines shown during the interview nor apologized for any of the show content that has been proven to be false/lies.
And in addition, she is plugging the Sussexes on her Instagram! She's even using her coverage of Philip's death via Insta to promote the Harkles."

What the MF hell?!?

This was NOT me, hope you can help figure out.
Midge said…
I somehow managed to post this on the old blog- didn't realize I had both tabs open- so will repost here:

@Magatha Mistie
Your poem perfectly captured what so many of us are feeling - thank you for that!
SirStinxAlot said…
Considering the family has photos taken of them ALL the Time, it seems so odd that between the time Archie was born in May til the move to Canada in November they couldn't get all the kids together during the summer time for a few pictures. Then again the Harkles were jet setting in Nice, Ibiza, South Africa etc. Instead the family released a never published before older photo of the Queen, Phillip, and great grand children. If Archie exists and was ever included in a family photo, Im sure they would have published a more recent one. Especially since the Harkles are moaning about Archie and Wokeisha not really getting to know their great grandpa like the other great grandkids.
Este said…
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/03/meghan-harry-kate-william-tension-commonwealth-day

The only reason I'm sharing that article....look at that picture! Harry looks furious, William & Kate look very upset and Meghan looks like the cheshire cat plotting revenge. This is a woman who would have ZERO issues facing the family she burned. In fact, she'd be even more smug and insufferable. And I don't believe for one minute she turn up the opportunity for world wide coverage for any other reason than Hazza told her to stay home. And he did it because it's his family and unlike his wife, he probably has some last vestiges of shame. Nothing will get mended between him and William and Gayle will make sure to let us know this. So what. Damage's been done and the RF has recovered from their treachery. What goes around, comes around.

Long haul, I don't see how he can stick with her. He'll stay for the 2nd baby. He'll try until he can't take it, which my guess is 3-5 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEPbK1skAU
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Nelo said, So it's been confirmed that Bradby will be doing a special on Philip's funeral. He will definitely be interviewing Harry and possibly the Yorks. Its obvious the Yorks are now in an alliance with the Sussexes.

I’m not 100% sure what you mean by this, Bradgy is covering the funeral as most of our main channels are (with their own presenters), is this what you mean? I’m mystified because reporters aren’t usually on standby to talk to the royal family during funerals, I’m sure it’s against protocol and in addition in incredibly poor taste. Put it this way...it’s never happened before and I personally think Hell would freeze over if Bradgy even attempted it. :o/
London Gent said…
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...
Considering the family has photos taken of them ALL the Time, it seems so odd that between the time Archie was born in May til the move to Canada in November they couldn't get all the kids together during the summer time for a few pictures. Then again the Harkles were jet setting in Nice, Ibiza, South Africa etc. Instead the family released a never published before older photo of the Queen, Phillip, and great grand children. If Archie exists and was ever included in a family photo, Im sure they would have published a more recent one. Especially since the Harkles are moaning about Archie and Wokeisha not really getting to know their great grandpa like the other great grandkids.

Yep. All about the facade. Same during the War.

Let's put out photos, any photos, to show WE are SO WONDERFUL!!!!

Mmm-hmm. So easy to do. Problem is to figure out what is fantasy versus reality. Goes back so far. Most of us are new at it.

New in the DM...

Three of Prince Philip's German family will attend funeral and are isolating in Ascot before service after Duke said he wanted 'blood' relatives represented...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9471993/Prince-Philips-close-family-Germany-isolating-Ascot-funeral.html
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Maneki Neko said…
@SirStinkAlot

Maybe Im cruel but this seems like such a snub to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/royal-family-releases-unseen-pictures-170942734.html

No Archie of course, and not photos of PP with him bei g published by the media either. Lmao I love subtle shade.
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That's what I thought for a split second but if you look at the photo, it's an old one. Louis is a baby, so is Lena, Zara's second daughter. They were both born in 2018, so a year before Archie was born... So there's no snub and no shade.
SirStinxAlot said…
@London Gent....I really haven't followed the RF dramas until MM came along. I saw photos of Kate on magazines in the checkout line. Lots of photos of H in nazi uniform, las vegas, hot tubs filled with girls, drunken violent rage etc. I have always thout H is a spoilt petulant brat.
I think the only reason that the US FBI wants to chat with Andrew is because of the money/business side of his Epstein relationship. The story about sex with Virginia is just a distraction and tarnishes his reputation.
Don't give two figs about Charles. He seems weak and over indulgent of H$M poor behavior. Hes never corrected H behavior growing up either from what I gather. Hence the international embarassment he is now. Reap what you sow.
Not sure what to think of William. But seems genuinely committed to his role as future king and loving father.
As for MM, I liked her right up until the poop hat event with W&K. She stuck her tongue out at the crowd, and all I could think was "This is not going to end well". She was 36ish at the time, acting like a 13 year old hanging on H arm. Just creepy. No class, just trash. As an American I could tell then she was a con artist. The youtube videos that poured onto the internet of her behavior was just upalling (even by our standards). I was embarrassed. I tried to rationalize her disheveled appearance and behavior for a while but it was hopless.
I think W&K will raise their children with a more grounded approach. The fact that they have Charlotte in the mix changes the dynamics. I recall an artcle saying Charlotte is "the boss". If true, she will take after Anne I think. George will be brought up like W. Loius is a wild card. He could be like Andrew or Edward since hes the baby. Hopefully the latter.
As for Archie and the new daughter, they will continue to be ghosts. I doubt H will leave M. He has dug his hole too deep. My guess is suicide or overdose. M wants that royal title too much to leave. Now shes nearly 40+ and has too much bagage. Her vindictive personality and psycho babble is well documented. She can't be trusted, looks fading fast, high maintenance, dishonest, no class, no skills, no chance of enthralling a "better" husband and keeping her 'royal' status.

Just call me DUCHESS.😜


Snarkyatherbest said…
Hmmm maybe Megs is photoshopping a session where she is writing on bananas with prince Philip since she was his favorite. Or archie bowling with prince Philip and the queen.

Watch for articles that Kate and Camilla demanded Megs not be allowed to attend because they are jealous of her special relationship with the queen. After all she’s the daughter Philip never had (sorry Anne 😉).

Actually I bet a major bender will be happening Saturday morning. In Montecito. All the drugs all the time. Marcus makes Megs a paper tiara with a big green circle in the center. Yes Megs you would have looked fabulous in black. Yes Megs no one can “mourn” like you. You are the better actress. None of them even know where the cameras are. Amateurs. Here dear, have another Chardonnay.
SirStinxAlot said…
@Maneki Neko, I elaborated in my second comment about the "shade".
Humor Me said…
@snarkythebest -

you guessed it - from the DM 4/12/2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9461799/DAN-WOOTTON-Palace-rattled-Andrew-comeback.html
SirStinxAlot said…
@Snarkyatherbest...maybe Markus can buy her a real plastic emerald tiara from Party City or Amazon to help console her grief. You know she is still simmering after all these years about petty slights and percieved slights. But said after the O interview, we spoke are peace and are ready to move on. ....But wait theres more!!!
Hikari said…
@Maneki Neko

In my comments about Harry’s cognitive abilities, I actually wasn’t thinking specifically about his academic performance. There are plenty of bright children who do not perform up to their potential in school For a variety of reasons that had nothing to do with their IQ points. When someone is consistently low performing every year across all subjects the way H appears to have been, Exploring whether this student has learning difficulties/delays and would benefit from an IEP or a different school it’s a legitimate question. If Henry needed help in this area, due to learning disabilities he does not seem to have received it, but was passed along from grade to grade in the top elite prep school in the country while only managing to barely pass one course without cheating. You’re right that other factors Besides iIQ can contribute to a student success or failure in school. I would submit that a reasonably right student with reading ability and retention who attended lectures most of the time should manage to pass more than one class. But my concerns about hairy transcend just school performance. He definitely evidences A great deal of immaturity for his age. It’s obvious that he doesn’t think of himself as much beyond the mid-20s, i.e. back when life was fun and less complicated and he had more hair and was cheeky rogue Harry and he could get away with that act because he was 24 years old. He is in fact now on the shady side to 40. I think he exhibits profound deficits in his executive functioning. This to me goes beyond immaturity. Back when Harry was happier and in a secure, cushioned environment where he had an entire team devoted to making him look and sound more competent than I think he actually is, He could manage brief remarks that work. For him and in which he was drilled by his team. H of old was capable of some rather charming spontaneity, such as when he broke into a few bars of You’ll Be Back at the Hamilton show. None of us out here in plebe land know Harry and his capabilities beyond staged photo ops and appearances so I would be leery of saying he’s perfectly normal in the way his mind works. How would we know for example what his interactions with his friends are like? We’ve seen some smiling and laughing pictures at weddings and stuff sure, but we don’t have live footage of him interacting. Unless you do. I think a persons intelligence level can be measured by their resiliency and their ability to be a quick study and cope in unfamiliar situations, with unfamiliar material. In that light, Harry is floundering. If he has a cognitive disability or some organic brain problem causing his executive functioning deficits, that would be somewhat mitigating toward his current behavior. I want to keep trying to save him and explain why he is acting this way, but he is foiling me.
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Ava C said…
@JennS - many thanks for all that work giving us the Gayle backlash. Things are really starting to shift now.

I absolutely loved the comment about Oprah's "cowardly lion wig"! Priceless and SO appropriate.
Maneki Neko said…
@SirStinkAlot

@Maneki Neko, I elaborated in my second comment about the "shade".
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My apologies, so you did. It would have been easy to get the Cambridge and the Tindall children together but to have them with Archie as well is a different story. I don't get the impression that the Markles mixed with other family members, so there were few, if any, opportunities to take a photo of Archie with the other royal children, assuming he exists.

lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko wrote about the 2018 picture of the great grandchildren:

"...if you look at the photo, it's an old one. Louis is a baby, so is Lena, Zara's second daughter. They were both born in 2018, so a year before Archie was born... So there's no snub and no shade."

Its not direct shade because you are right, Archie hadn't yet been born when it was taken. But Louis was born in April 2018 and Lena in June 2018. Yet they weren't "too young" to go to Balmoral that summer (unlike May birthday Archie in summer 2019.)
Hikari said…
@Sir Stinx

That charming poop hat moment was Christmas 2017 at Sandringham, when the Harkles had been engaged somewhat less than four weeks. Four weeks is all she lasted before sticking her tongue out at her first official family photo call. Unofficially official, because even though she was just a fiancée, She got to attend Christmas and had a weekend invitation to William and Kate’s home. Kate herself had been Williams girlfriend for 8+ years by the time she got engaged, and she was not permitted to attend Christmas as a fiancé, despite her longevity and the fact that she was engaged to marry the future king. The rules were never bent until Meg at the scene, But one month end and the family was demonstrably trying with her. It makes it all the more galling That Meg would behave so terribly toward Catherine during the wedding preparations, considering that she had been a guest in Catherine’s home. EnV of Catherine is her constant companion and it eats her alive.

The engagement interview was so stiff and weird, but at the time I chalked it up to nerves. All the wedding drama was super weird, but I chalked that up to her being a transplant to a foreign country with nobody familiar around her and her father undergoing a major health crisis. I really was prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt. Things begin to curdle for me We could display at Eugenie’s wedding and the very inappropriate clothing and behavior during the Australia tour. Final straw was the square bump appearance at the old actors home in early December 2018. That’s how far I made it. That day gave me a very uneasy feeling that the new Duchess was a manipulative and potentially psychotic attention seeker. She certainly hasn’t proved me wrong since then.

Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. I still think that with Harry, the problem is his emotional intelligence, rather than his intellect. He probably didn't take things very seriously when younger, unlike William who was groomed to be king one day. Added to that, as I mentioned up thread, if he is weak and easily led and is manipulated by an evil witch then he doesn't have the ability to survive. I fear he is a lost cause.
Hikari said…
@Snarky

Since Megan co-ops everyone else’s situations and ideas and pretend they’re hers, how about this: HARRY was the one struggling with suicidal thoughts during her time in the Firm. Perhaps the enormity of what he had gotten himself involved in by marrying her was heading home? He’s the one on record with mental health issues, stemming from his mothers early loss, which both he and William have talked about frankly. While it’s completely understandable that losing your mother violently in early adolescence would be a permanent scarring event, And there’s no shame in admitting that and getting help, I get the feeling that only William has embraced this philosophy. Having narcissistic tendencies himself, Harry does not want to admit to failure or being anything less then great. The depth of his actual struggles to mourn Diana are known only to him. It seems to me that he has used his mothers death very often as a convenient quote get away with anything because I am a bereaved child“ card. He has said publicly that he barely remembers his mother, and being a 12-year-old boy as he was, Couldn’t really be bothered to speak with her just before she died. Does he carry guilt about this, corrosive guilt? Is there not remembering her a reaction to trauma and his brain is trying to protect him from something so painful in the Remembering? That is possible. It’s also possible that he doesn’t remember much about his mother and her loss didn’t hit him as hard as it did William, and as he pretends it did now, because he is essentially narcissistic and self-absorbed and other people, even a mother, represent the background scenery of his life. Like rearranging furniture in a room, when a piece goes missing it’s not that big of a deal. Regardless of Harry’s actual feelings about his mother, William certainly seems to have done a better job at addressing the pain and moving forward. I feel like Harry Has “rediscovered” a whole lot of painful memories about losing his mother with Meg’s encouragement That perhaps had not troubled him for years. The toxic do you always absolutely exploding the carcass of Diana for fame and money. If that doesn’t trouble Harry, Then he is as profoundly disturbed as his wife.
Hikari said…
Oh dear… Exploiting not exploding. Apologies for that terrible image stupid auto correct.
Teasmade said…
@Maneki Neko: Re H's purported IQ. Of course we can't tell just by looking or supposing. And I agree that the emotional IQ is lacking (he comes by this honestly.) But how else to explain his poor performance in school (also like his mother)? There is SOMETHING wrong there, whether a learning disability or -- well, I don't know. I'm sure there are educators here who could make a better guess than I. And can we still say "dimwitted", even if we can't guess at his IQ?

I'd love to hear some opinions. And no, we haven't beaten this topic to death yet! : )

Ava C said…
@Hikari - there may be something in what you say, especially given the educational privileges Harry received. If he had difficulties I'm sure every effort was made to help him above and beyond other pupils. Staff would have pulled out all the stops (as they did!). Remember that old documentary I noted a while ago, on YouTube, when Harry was on his two-year-gap-year. Watching it now we agreed there were many red flags at the time. He was a P-R-O-B-L-E-M.

What I can't get past though is how he did in the army. Yes he was protected and yes it was hyped to some extent, but even if he can only fly a helicopter with another pilot present, he can still fly a helicopter. Surely that requires a degree of intelligence. It must be because he can do what he wants to do. Unless it is a form of instinctive ability, but surely flying is more complex than driving a car.

I was reading about JFK Jr's faults as a pilot recently and thinking about him reminded me of Harry. His short attention span, compulsive risk taking and over-confidence. Frustrating comparisons with a more cautious, academically gifted sibling. And of course he was also famous as the son of a revered icon. Or two.

There the similarities with Harry end of course. By all accounts he was also kind, considerate and generous. Who eventually managed to pass the New York Bar Exam. Not to mention one of the most handsome, charismatic men of his time. Just thinking of him makes you realise how far Harry falls short in terms of intrinsic megawattage. For we all know what Meghan really would have wanted. If JFK Jr had come calling she'd have dropped her beloved Harry like a radioactive hot potato.
jessica said…
I beg to disagree at the Great Grandchildren photo.

Tbh, I opened daily Mail. Looked at the photo in shock “Did Wills just release a photo of Archie?!” Scoured the sub headline. No Archie. Archie was supposedly ‘present’ in the UK for 6-7 months of his life and ‘met’ everyone at various photo calls, besides just meeting family. He’s almost 2. Once I realized they didn’t post a photo including “Archificial”, I thought “damn! They are throwing down!”

Completely, utterly intentional. And I’m loving it!

Wills and Kate and BP know Meghan doesn’t have a single candid photo of ‘Archie’ with the Queen or Philip.
jessica said…
The question is what happens if Meghan raises the stakes and claims they didn’t release an Archie photo because they are racists??? Shouldn’t she be queuing up her vulgar accusations because they didn’t release a photo with him included?

What would BP do then? Surely they’d be forced to clear the air about ‘Archie’ .
Ava C said…
Seeing the DM headline about no uniforms at all - this is the Commonwealth service all over again, when William and Catherine were not in their rightful places in the procession, solely to appease the Sussexes. There are two terrible 'A' words for the Windsors, but they only seem to remember 'Abdication'.

I am fed up to the back teeth of this endless appeasement. Prince Andrew is allowed to kick serious allegations into the long grass in the hopes that we'll all forget about them and Prince Harry is allowed to trash not only his family but his country. We've literally paid millions for those two. For what? When do we get a say in this?
Charles may not have seen active service in the Navy, when there was an enemy to be confronted, but it was hardly his fault that there wasn't a war on.
jessica said…
Ava,

If I were being generous, I’d guess they don’t want the press distraction and publicly of Harry and Andrew in a suit. It would overshadow the service. At the same time, you are 100% correct. They shouldn’t be there for formal events, or dress appropriately for their status. Everyone suffering from their mistakes is wrong.
Meghan really is barking mad if she can't connect up her accusations that A didn't get a princely handle `because he was black and they're racist' or that he wasn't included in family photos for the same reasons - when the only Archie(s) she has ever deigned to show us, and that rarely, has/have absolutely pale skin with no detectable melanin present.

I take it that the beach photo was B&W because that child has dark hair which could never be described as `ginger' or `red'.
Girl with a Hat said…
I am glad to learn that Philip insisted on having his sisters' family at his funeral because they weren't allowed at his wedding. What a thoughtful man he was!
jessica said…
WBBM, agree. Following her thought pattern, I wonder what she’s going to do about Archie this week??

Puds, had me thinking. It’s a great observation that Meghan sounded like she hated pregnancy between her severe mental illness and the racist comments against her child. Extremely over the top.
SirStinxAlot said…
@jessica...if the Harkles have photos of Archie with QE and PP, perhaps they should have been the ones to release them with H tribute to PP like W did. After all, didn't they scream about PRIVACY? They have been keeping ghost child hidden with photoshop and blurry lenses for 2 years now.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Headline this morning is that all will wear mufti - Capitulation? Perhaps but wiser than have barring H from poncing around in a Blues and Royals tunic, as per his wedding, as that would have been spun by her mouthpieces as yet another insult. I'm not sure if medals are to worn.

It's a great pity that H has subverted his grandfather's wishes. Is he proud of himself for that? Andrew too. What a pair of tossers.

I shan't be surprised if it turns out that there's no conversation at all between H and any senior royals, apart from HM at the funeral. As for masks, they'd have the great advantage of thwarting the lip readers.
Jdubya said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9472295/Prince-Philip-determined-save-Charles-Dianas-marriage-writes-Gyles-Brandreth.html

interesting story
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SirStinxAlot said…

@WBBM...the palace could easily issue a statement if asked saying "We do not have a single photo of Archie, because no one in the family has ever met him." They wouldn't have to come out and say doll or surrogate conspiracy or photoshopped pics distributed my Harkles. Just we don't know, the couple is very secretive and the Palace respects their privacy (and right to copyright their photos for sale) End. I do recall Mike Tindall saying they never met Archie at one point. Not sure if that ever changed but I doubt it.
Also, didn't they recently get a partial win on the pap photos of Archie? Im sure the UK has laws protecting children's privacy and images from being circulated without parental consent as well.
snarkyatherbest said…
Jessica - good call because the family photo is a good look over there release, distracting from Harry and Andrew. I am guessing they have a whole bunch of those ready in case of the pr I think it is good because maybe the next chess move for the harkles is to release a never before seen photo of archie with PP (where Archie is actually driving the carriage?!) Problem is if megs is doing a lot of her own pr she might be behind getting to the photoshopping and marcus is probably saying no, im not doing that Ive got American Idol to watch, im not messing with photoshopping again. Poor Kate, she's got dinner to fix and now has to go looking for more photos of behind the scenes with the family.

Personally, I like the stories and I like the photos, bringing a humanness to the family that is sometimes not shown. But they do need to balance the mystic aspect of royal life too. I dont want to see a pic of the queen hanging the tidy whities on a clothes line and PP in t shirt, shorts, long black socks and sandals holding a bbq fork.
Jdubya said…
From a 2007 article: part 1

It is understood that officers in Scotland Yard's Royalty Protection Squad have also expressed concerns about Harry's penchant for drinking and nightclubs.

Privately they believe that he is becoming 'unmanageable' - putting himself at unnecessary risk of attack from fellow clubbers or even terrorists.

The Daily Mail can also reveal that officers are concerned about the activities of a number of 'hangers on' in Harry's entourage who encourage his excesses.

According to security sources, Army chiefs have spoken informally to senior royalty protection officers about the prince's increasingly erratic behaviour.

Dai Davies, a former head of Scotland Yard's Royalty Protection Squad said: "Harry is not behaving like a senior royal, let alone an Army officer. What he is doing is compromising his security and the security of others. Ludicrous amounts of money are being spent on providing him with 24-hour security.

Harry to face Army carpeting

And another from 2012... after the naked party pics from Las Vegas emerged:

As third in line to the throne the Prince is one of the best protected members of the Royal Family and has at least two armed officers from the Metropolitan Police’s elite SO14 unit providing round the clock security.

Yesterday, there were questions about whether they should have done more to prevent the compromising photographs being taken.

But while the security detail will keep a close watch on the Prince’s activities and vet anyone he is in contact with, experts insist it is beyond their powers to provide a moral compass for the 27-year-old army captain.

Jdubya said…
Part 2

The former head of royal protection for the Metropolitan Police, Dai Davies, said there came a point when the Prince had to take some responsibility for his own security.

Mr Davies said: “The role of a royal protection officer is to protect, and that should cover all aspects of someone’s life. But the Prince is third in line to the throne, just two weeks ago he was representing the Queen and I don’t think he does himself any favours when he lets his guard down like this.”

“From a security point of view I’m sure he’s particularly safe. We are paying huge amounts of money for this young man to be followed everywhere he goes by security.

“But I don't envy their [security officers'] job. It must be a nightmare at times, trying to ensure that he doesn't get into these kinds of scrapes.

Prince Harry's life cannot be 'regulated' by royal protections officers, police chief says

In 2020, he was still treating his security officers with contempt:

Scotland Yard officers protecting Prince Harry and Meghan in Canada have voiced concern about running errands including picking up groceries and coffees.

Protection officers guarding the couple around the clock at their remote bolthole have said they feel they are being treated like “skivvies”.

Former head of Royal Protection Dai Davies said: “I would consider outside the remit of the close protection officers to be running errands and going shopping.

The team are running up huge bills on flights, cars, wages and overtime as they mount a round the clock watch on the couple who have stepped down as frontline royals.

A team of up to 15 highly-trained close protection experts – including some Canadian ‘Mounties’ – are on duty around the couple and nine-month old son Archie.

Last night, a royal security source said: “While the guys are happy to be out there doing the jobs, there is a feeling they are carrying out menial tasks, like picking up takeaways and groceries.

“They are close protection officers – and should be sticking solely to close protection rather than running errands.

“It is dangerous for one thing, because if something were to happen it would not be good if one of them was away running an errand or picking up coffee.

“And they are the ones who would get it in the neck from their bosses if they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

Experts have estimated the annual bill for protecting Harry and Meghan at £3 million to £6 million.
@snarky at her best -

The 1969 that Philip had been so keen on was deemed to have removed some of the Royal Mystique and, in retrospect, was seen as a Bad Thing (but not as toe-curling as It's a Royal Knockout, altho' that only involved the youngsters).

I really must go to bed now,

G'night All.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Jessica

“Tbh, I opened daily Mail. Looked at the photo in shock “Did Wills just release a photo of Archie?!” Scoured the sub headline. No Archie. Archie was supposedly ‘present’ in the UK for 6-7 months of his life and ‘met’ everyone at various photo calls, besides just meeting family. He’s almost 2. Once I realized they didn’t post a photo including “Archificial”, I thought “damn! They are throwing down!”

Completely, utterly intentional. And I’m loving it!”

I totally agree this was shade. Subtle, almost masterful.

Even if said picture of Archie and the rest of the great grandchildren exists, William knew there was no way Harry would give permission for it to be published. Being the good big brother he is, knowing Harry (Meghan) would reject the request (as there is no cash to be made), didn’t bother asking.

That aside, I don’t think there is a photo of Archie with the Queen and DoE, other than the one from the day they “introduced” him to the world. I’d love to see them try to release that one again. They’d be torn apart for that one. Of course, with their lack of foresight, we may see that picture up on the Archwell website.
Museumstop said…
@ Girl with a Hat
I am glad to learn that Philip insisted on having his sisters' family at his funeral because they weren't allowed at his wedding. What a thoughtful man he was!

--------------------------

If so, wow! This man remembered his 73-year-old dues. What a contrast between the dead and the living at this funeral.
AnT said…
@AvaC,

I just saw the DM “no uniforms” headline and I am furious as well. My heart goes out to everyone in the UK witnessing this travesty.

Philip was a military man, and now they besmirch the honor of his service legacy, and alter his funeral, to quell the childish tempers of two absolutely vile, worthless family members who should be kicked to the kerb? These two fools can’t put the Queen and her feelings, and the concept of honoring Philip correctly, before their selfish tantrums? Knowing full well why they lost the right to wear the uniforms?

I truly cannot tell you the words going through in my mind right now,

There is no karma big or bad enough to swallow Andrew and Harry.

Museumstop said…
@AnT

You think in today's daily zoom update with teacher Meghan, Harry must have told her how he put her lessons into action. I stamped my foot and threw the teapot as you taught me, and screamed, 'I get what I want or no one gets anything.' Did I make you happy? Did I pass?
AnT said…
@Museumstop,

Lol! You are probably correct. Can you believe this? The comments in the DM are absolutely scathing.

There is no chance of public redemption for Andrew or Harry now, muscling their grieving mother and grandmother in this way.
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