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Open Post: "The Bench" Interview

New open post to discuss Meghan's upcoming NPR interview for "The Bench."

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xxxxx said…
Enbrethiliel said...
Re: lack of knowledge
It was sketchy at best when Harry's then-fiancée pleaded ignorance during the engagement interview. It's entirely implausible now.


There are two matters Megs might have been ignorant about prior to marriage.

#1 What was the nature of Harry's alleged 20 million dollars. Is it tied up in forever trusts that Harry can only get interest/dividends from? Is that 20 million only Harry's at a certain age such as 40? How much is Charles giving him each year? Does he have the kind of money where he has access to 3 million is a day, a week or a month?
Megs knew that if she inquired forcefully, that H would write her off as a gold digger

#2 Megs might have thought that Hapless was next in line after William. I sure did three and a half years ago. Megs might not have been fully aware how large the Royal status gap is between Wills and H, the second born. I can tell by Megs behavior, that she thought, "When I marry this British Prince I am all set. I will live as royally and as lavishly as Wills and Katherine. So what if Harry is listed behind William. I will have the same Royal lifestyle and status (titles) as all these lazy English Royals I have reading about for ages" "So will our children"
SwampWoman said…
Harry's Wife: A Less Than Royal Narcissist Pt. 60.4 has just been posted on YouTube.
Mesdames! Messieurs1! Place your bets!

What will she do to upstage the unveiling?

Swap the yak hair for a Diana wig and do a pap walk `in character'?

Miraculously survive a staged `car crash'?

Announce another pregnancy?



SwampWoman said…
And now Harry's Wife: A Less Than Royal Narcissist pt. 60.5 dropped on YouTube @ 5 minutes ago.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid, I will have to think on this for a bit, but I do like the "staged car crash" because she was fleeing paps trying to take her picture. She can darkly insinuate it is because the BRF hired the paps to distract her while she was driving in order to kill her, Lili, and Archie in a car crash to cleanse the polluted bloodline.
KCM1212 said…
I'm so curious about that Blind. What day is "special"? Diana's birthday?

One thing that is fun about the 6s is that if a strategy backfires on them (sometimes spectacularly) they just repeat that strategy more forcefully.

Insanity. But interesting to watch.

Puds, I agree! What a good idea to make the media outlets have to disclose that the story was purchased and a result of PR. That whole business seems so underhanded. I admit that I am naive. Before The Debacle, I had no idea how PR works.

And JennS, my thanks as well for the articles. That can be a real chore, especially when tired, and you need your rest. Thank you.

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Hikari said…
Hello, all--

Been taking a wee break from this board for the most part; at first it was choice, and then just before the weekend, my cell phone got stolen at my work place. So, yeah. For a variety of reasons, I have gone a bit off social media for the next while.

But I will follow what happens on July 1st and subsequent with interest, even if I don't comment right away.

Snarky said:

maybe the kraken is intended to be a drip drip drip of info so as not to gang up on the harkles. everytime they get a little momentum something by else drops and keeps going until they look like lying petulant spoiled brats to more people beyond us. and then the fade into irrelevance maybe there is some hope that harry comes home and stays so a door always remains open. plus a divorce could really reveal a big kraken

I guess the baby kraken could be said to be the Palace releasing their 'no more "never complain and never explain" about-face in PR and also in allowing the assertion that the Queen never gave H$M permission to use her name. Also the uncontested assertions allowed to stand in print that Negs is not only a bully, but a psychopathic narcissist to stand is a major development. Never before have those words appeared in print. They were always couched as hearsay. "Markle is Duchess Difficult/has impossibly high standards/misunderstandings/recollections may vary, etc.

Now there it is, in black and white. Psychopath. And wearing that label since Harry first brought her home to meet the family, or at least, just after she was engaged. We all saw the warning signs at the engagement interview. A more skillful actress would not have dropped the mask on her first at-bat, no sir.

What a wonder the Family did not do more to intervene in Harry marrying the absolutely worst influence on him he ever could have chosen. If they'd plucked a stranger out of the audience to be his Cinderella and marry him right then, never having met, there's no way it would be worse than this.

Hikari said…
The Big Daddy Kraken, as I see it, is in three parts . . four, if we count each of the 'children' as a heading:
1. WHAT was the item(s) of blackmail employed against Hazza circa September 2017 that propelled Markle from 'ex girlfriend of nearly a year' to 'Moving in with Haz and engaged' in under 2 months? Oh to be a little fly on the wall of that skybox to hear what was being discussed between the Coven and its Victim at Invictus in Toronto? HOW they did it is also of note. Basically--Harry is complicit now in his own miserable treatment of his family--we all see it. But is that how it STARTED? Had he finished with her before New Year in 2017, or is that only what his family thought? If the answer is no, then why does he look so unhappy . . .terrified at some points during those fateful and to all appearances entirely unexpected encounters with M and her coterie of monkeys? If his girl, the one he wants to marry showed up to surprise him at the Invictus Games, he should look happy, right? Not like he has just soiled himself beside the First Lady of the U.S. and the Prime Minister of Canada.

2. The Children (or Constructs of Children) Known as Archie and Lilibet . . .What did/does the Palace know and when did they know it?

3. What was the impetus for the Unholy Family's flight across the ocean? Rehab for Haz? Were they driven out due to fiscal irregularities with their foundation/Frogmore reno . .or was it because of Archie? Had Megs unveiled an actor baby in front of Bishop Tutu? Because the merde really hit the fan after the SA tour and it wasn't strictly because of the whiny quivering lip interviews they gave to Tom Bradby. Within a month or less of SA, they were gone to Canada on the pretext of 'Thanksgiving with Doria' . . where Doria does not live.

I think of the Kraken as a multiheaded Hydra but these are the Big Three heads for me. That Meg is a bully with mental issues has been set down by numerous witnesses since the Australia House debacle if not before. Her behavior there makes even Tiara-gate pale in comparison.
Karla said…
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Hikari said…
Over the long unbearably hot weekend, seeing as I had no cell phone and my TV's on the fritz, too, I read books. I am about 2/3rds of the way through this one:

What do you do when the person you’re meant to trust the most in the world is the one trying to destroy you?

‘When people met her they thought how lovely she was, this attractive woman with a beautiful laugh. But she was one person in public and another behind closed doors. Who would she be today? The loving mother? The trusted teacher? The monster destroying my life?’

Olivia has been afraid ever since she can remember. Out of sight, she was subjected to cruelty and humiliation at the hands of the one person who should have loved and protected her at all times – her mother, Josephine.


MY MOTHER, THE PSYCHOPATH: GROWING UP IN THE SHADOW OF A MONSTER by Olivia Rayne (2019)

The true story, couched in a novel-style format, of the author's childhood and young adulthood at the hands of her psycho mother. The author is now 29 years old.
I purchased this off of eBay last year shortly after 'Archie' turned one. I am just now getting around to it but it's fitting seeing as M has just 'given birth' to a little girl. Female psychopaths are even more vicious to daughters, who they view inevitably as rivals, as we have often observed in this space. A boy will also be damaged, but he might be spared the full brunt of narcissistic rage at least until he starts bringing girlfriends home to compete with Mother.

From the Amazon review:

While appearing completely normal to the outside world, Josephine displayed all the signs of being a psychopath – unbeknown to her daughter until adulthood – and Olivia grew up feeling scared, worthless and exploited. Even when she found the courage to cut ties, her mother found new ways to manipulate and deceive, attempting to destroy her life with a vicious campaign of abuse.

Now Olivia has come to terms with her past and gives a fascinating, harrowing and deeply unsettling insight into what it’s like growing up with a psychopathic parent.


Olivia's father was extremely passive and allowed his wife to do anything to their child without intervening. If he became too assertive in Olivia's defense, the wife would throw him out and sever all contact until he came crawling back. He was abused, too, but such p***yWhippage on a man is a truly pitiful look. IF those kids are real (for me a YUGE IF) . .then Haz would be the same. Worse, really because I think he'd be incredibly jealous of any children coming into this twisted whatever it is. *HE* is Mummy's Baby, see.

The chapter headings are all traits of psychopathy and let me tell you, M ticks every box.
JennS said…
@Karla

How does that archive work? Are getting the links to the articles from somewhere else - someone who has already searched for and found the Times articles links - or are you searching for them yourself on that site?

I'm paying for a monthly subscription for the Times articles but if they are all available for free via whatever that service is I'll end my subscription.
Please let me know.
Thanks!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I imagine the loss of the military titles is a response to the `Captain General' preferring Disney to Deal.

What do you reckon?
_____

HELL TO THE YEAH.

As a vet myself, and employed by a veterans' news publication, I'm in contact with lots and lots of vets every day. And let me tell you, that is the single biggest complaint against H they have, even above the whole protected toy soldier thing in Afghanistan. If this is what Yanks think of him, I can only imagine what his British "mates" must think. (Actually, I've got a pretty good idea. And it ain't complimentary.)

The late Prince Philip had such high hopes for H, conferring such a prestigious honor on him. Only to have it thrown, no, spit, back in his face.

Nope, to me, H is no better than the guys who pretend they served (known as "stolen valor"). And I have yet to talk with any vet who actually likes/admires him. He is universally despised. I think he knows it, too. Stupid @ss.
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Karla said…
JennS A friend of mine from the UK is sending me the file.
lizzie said…
@Karla and @JennS

Thanks for the Times stuff.

Re: the archived stuff about the Fiji market. Very interesting but I don't know where Lacey got the idea M got a standing ovation for her UN speech. Certainly not in the video I saw.
Karla said…
Lizzie Said...
"Very interesting but I don't know where Lacey got the idea M got a standing ovation for her UN speech. Certainly not in the video I saw"

I couldn't agree more.👏
Karla said…
JeanS if you wish, I hope you post. And I hold the material just for my reading. Just let me know.❤️
abbyh said…
We love people to participate but need to encourage you all to get enough sleep, good solid meals and so on. Everyone adds a lot to this (which makes it so much fun). We all want that to continue. Blogs (such as this one) tend to be free-flowing conversations.

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If you feel someone is stepping on your one last nerve, step away from the keyboard and do something else (go for a walk, pet the cat, check the news, make a cup of tea or something other than fire off some retort to that other poster). Nutty has set up the blog as a kindly sort of place not unlike people chatting in a coffee shop.

Please remember:

None of us own this blog. This is a collaborative effort from all over. So none of us can therefore dictate what the opinion will and will not be.

It is not your job to criticize others. Everyone brings different ideas to the table. And that is what has always been good because without a differing point of view, we don't get a chance to really think out why we think this or that about the topic.

If you feel that something is not right, ask a moderator to recheck a comment. Just write: "Moderator" on a message by itself and we can look for it. We are not on 24 hours a day but we are on it a lot.

Thank you. And let's keep chatting. They certainly give us a lot to talk about.
Humor Me said…
Just my two cents: I do believe that Lacey unleashed a Kraken with the publication of the new chapters, showing that it was William who started the separation and why. Mr. Lacey may be pro -Harkle, but this news shined a spotlight on behaviors that are being supported in the news that are not favorable to the Harkles. The news that William has been "on to" the couple for years says volumes. That Scobie is making fresh allegations at the same time is a diversionary tactic that is transparent. That there was no Father's Day promo from the Harkle camp is sad - it was all about her and her interview, not that her husband is the father of her two children.
The new Harry Markled blog is telling it as it appears - the Royal Family/ Firm needs to circle the wagons as we say over here in the West. In nine days, Harry and William will get the full exposure of what the British people think of them. I hope the Firm is ready to act.
jessica said…
Karla,

It’s amazing to me someone with so much rage and hatred can theoretically make it so far. I know she Markled Harry, and that’s the key that binds her to the popularity known by, but still...
Karla said…
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Elsbeth1847 said…
Suspect that Prince Philip had a few choice words with his wife long before passing regarding the titles. That he did not stay at the Windsor Summit is saying something.

Also at the Summit, I remember talk of not needing a year but that HM still insisted.

6 might talk (or rant) about how he was forced to do the interview so he could do some clarification about the title loss (and it wound up on the cutting floor maybe?) but the reality is that his beloved grandmother was trying to allow him to save some face by not having everyone else except 6 wearing their uniforms.

That is not kind or loving towards someone who has tried to show him kindness instead of humiliation (and public at that).
Museumstop said…
@Puds

Your note on the bullying complaints, its investigation and press coverage got me thinking. What you infer could just be it.

Currently, everything is geared towards drowning that her aspect as a bully. It is the one thorn she can't pull out and this behaviour of hers predates her arrival in the royal family. It's the one thing she can't tell fibs about with no fear of repurcussions.

As we know, once someone speaks up it gives courage to others to do so too. Once instances of her bullying are fully out in the open, what's to stop those from her work days and student days from coming out with their stories - they can't all be the fault of the BRF or all be racist. Keeping the focus on her truths of the RF is what keeps that beast down. Keeps her in the news as an opponent, and in her mind as an equal if not smarter opponent. Her being a bully destroys her fame and victim leverage. I bet she's watching what happening to Chrissy Teigen.

This is why I dont trust Lacey's intentions even if I do lap up the truths he's spilling along the way. His deep association with Netflix and The Crown have me suspecting him even more. What if he's inducing twists and turns to help a narrative that will turn into a script.


SwampWoman said…
Humour me said: That there was no Father's Day promo from the Harkle camp is sad - it was all about her and her interview, not that her husband is the father of her two children.

I think maybe you left out "allegedly" as "her husband is allegedly the father of her two children".
DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the three headed Kraken/hydra.

I posted somewhere on this blog recently that I believe 6 was forced/coerced into marriage by a fake pregnancy and listed my rationale in my post. I distinctly remember that they did break up before the Jamaica wedding which was spun into a romantic idyll at the time by 6w PR.

6 did not look happy to see her as photos from the event portray.
I remain convinced she used the pregnancy card to trap 6.
SwampWoman said…
@JennS: Please accept my belated thanks for the articles laboriously cut and pasted. I confess that I was too tired after arriving home last night to read and ponder them as they deserved; my eyes were crossing because I'd just spent several hours driving home through Claudette remnants and rain always makes me sleepy. I just glanced through some of the shorter comments, made a couple of comments to show that I was still alive but barely, and went to sleep.
Thank you, AbbyH

Earlier, I was trying to answer fully what I took to be a genuine question to the best of my ability.
Hikari said…
I think Granny should send a message that she really really really wants to see her new great-grand, her namesake, and her big brother before she heavens forfend, passes away.

She will ensure the children are given titles upon her passing--heck she will create special titles for them right now! AND she will reinstate Harry's military titles . . .

Just two tiny wee things:

Meg and Harry present both children to her at Windsor Castle with emissaries of the British and American embassies and the Home Secretary in attendance. Mr. Johnson too if he is not busy. Among this company, the parents will present a signed affadavit from no less than 3 medical professionals (at least one doctor; a midwife or nurse practitioner who assisted in the deliveries and at least one other person who administered post-partum care to the Duchess and her newborns, along with certified copies of both children's birth certificates. Surrogacy should be overlooked so long as both children carry H & M's DNA, as certified by no less than 2 independent laboratory tests, if the Duchess can't produce prove that she birthed them herself.

Easy peasy, right? If all is in order with their parenthood than everything will be restored.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
JennS said…
Karla said...
JeanS if you wish, I hope you post. And I hold the material just for my reading. Just let me know.❤️
........................

Karla
I pay $25 a month for subscriptions to both the Times and the Telegraph. Do you know how to use that free link site? Searching within it seems to bring up too many results.
JennS said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Thank you, AbbyH
Earlier, I was trying to answer fully what I took to be a genuine question to the best of my ability.
............

But there was no question.
I did not ask any questions as I am very familiar with how the Times drops their articles especially the royal ones, and being an educated person I am aware of how global time zones work.
And after I made it clear that I felt insulted although you apologized, you still left your posts up.
And now you thanking Abby (who apparently did not understand what happened) is insulting me even further.
smh
I'll be responding further on my own blog.
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@SwampWoman

I am concerned you seem to be doing a lot. I think you're on your own at the moment (your husband is away looking after his mother), you look after the grandchild/ren, you were driving for hours. Do look after yourself x
Karla said…
JennS I have never browsed free sites. I am a member of an anti-Meghan group in the UK. And they are posting The Times files for their followers to read and share. There are open tweets in the UK that follow Valentine Low and interact with him who are also posting the articles of The The Times.
If I knew you were a subscriber to The Times, I wouldn't have posted it here. Excuse. Until....
SwampWoman said…
As I have been sitting here thinking about the Markle effect on the BRF and the UK on the whole, a PSA was done about hurricane season.

It was because so many people have moved to Florida in the past couple of years that have NO idea what hell a hurricane can unleash and how quickly they can intensify. In a hurricane landfall there will be multiple tornadoes in the storm bands, intensive rainfall that can cause flooding, tidal surge, and the relentless wind that will continue for hours. That right front quadrant can and does kill. (Please un-ass the area if you are going to be in that quadrant of a landfalling hurricane. Do not refuse to leave. Nobody will be coming to save you until the winds and rain die down, the flooding recedes, and the roads are cleared of debris.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDgtRFlaZT4

I think the Markle effect was much like a hurricane rapidly intensifying in the gulf as it approaches land, dropping widespread mayhem and destruction from several directions at once. I don't think the BRF knew what hit them at first, nor how destructive she was going to prove to be.
Good analogy, Swampwoman.

I'm closing down for the night now.
DesignDoctor said…
@SwampWoman said:

I think the Markle effect was much like a hurricane rapidly intensifying in the gulf as it approaches land, dropping widespread mayhem and destruction from several directions at once. I don't think the BRF knew what hit them at first, nor how destructive she was going to prove to be.

Agreed. Most people have not had first hand narc experience and have no idea of the destruction and mayhem they cause. And, initially, narcs love bomb and are charming--family and friends have no warning of the private hell they inflict.


Princess Tiffany says that 6w had an all out physical fight a couple of nights ago with Doria at Mudslide Mansion. Evidently, Doria was mad that she'd done so much for 6 and wife that she was enraged that 6w didn't name the new baby after her. It came to blows and Doria walked out in tears.

Now, the interesting thing is that some of the staff in the next room heard the fight and possibly have recorded it. They are keeping the recording for leverage against not being paid overtime for after-hours work (such as 6's wife calling at 5 a.m. to her staff).

After Doria left, 6and wife were on the phone to their PR people, asking how to rebrand themselves because they had relied on Doria as the black family member, who, because she is black, gave them legitimacy to "work" the race card.

Princess Tiffany says some of these revelations are from her sources and part from New Age magazine in Australia. She doesn't know if this is true, and neither do I, but it does explain why we haven't seen Doria lately. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcFQotLtx2Y
xxxxx said…
Puds said...
I think I am coming round to manic Neg.

Hahahah You and me too/ Though I have think that two babies will slow her down, will moderate her manic episodes that used to go on for days or a few weeks. But classic Megs-- a Manic-depressive. Of course we never see or saw her depressive side. She stayed away from public appearances. Though even when depressive she could summon up the strength to make a quickie 20 minute appearance at a patronage. Diagnosis by Dr. XXXXX
JennS said…
@Karla

It looks like the links that your group provides come from a web crawler archive site similar to the Wayback Machine on Internet Archive. I've seen the same links to articles offered on Lipstick Alley. I don't know exactly how it works but I don't think there is any cost. I'll have to look into it some more another time but thanks again for the info.😊
@Design doctor
@WBBM,

You're so right about how dangerous a narc can be, especially when they have co-existing mental health problems.

The narc who was in my life, wanted my husband so badly (her husband was friends with my husband, although she dumped her husband as soon as she cleaned him, a lawyer, out financially).

She tried every 6w trick in the book to get rid of me, but nothing worked. She was laser focused on me. THEN, she sent me a "friendly" email suggesting that she hadn't shot her gun in awhile, and would I like to go out into the woods with her and shoot?

This woman was so nuts that I truly believe that she would have shot and killed me. Harry and those children have a lot to worry about.
Este said…
Oh the RF is out-Markeling the Markles by using "sources" and authors of books involving them to spread the rumors...bullying accusations, that are documented as far back as 2018 to smear them without ever needing to move forward on that bullying investigation. In fact, I'm thinking it's better if the investigation keeps getting pushed back into the dim future, just to let the uncertain stench of uncorroborated allegation against the other to go unchecked. Sound familiar, Dastardly Duo? Meghan demanding to see squat from the investigation has legal significance only if there is action, a public disclaimer on the bullying investigation. The firm did say they would be handling this matter privately, after all, ahem.
I’m sick of the rags: stop telling me things are about to go down.

Tell me when the brutal showdown happens.

They over promise and under deliver
DesignDoctor said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

Oh my! that is frightening. So glad you did not fall for her evil tactics!
@Design Doctor,

Yes, she was completely crazy and very dangerous. I somewhat got back at her one day at an outdoor party for about 100 people. I knew she was going to be there, so I took my camera, along with a long lens and a X2 lens on top of that, so that the lens was about a foot long. She couldn't miss it.

I kept my distance on the other side of the party, but every time she looked my way, which was a lot, I photographed her, over and over again. Hundreds of photos just of her. That madwoman didn't know what to do with another madwoman (me) so she slunk off and left the party.

She was always a little bit afraid of me after that. I think she was wondering if I was photographing her for a lawsuit.

I'd read somewhere years ago that if you think you're about to be raped, to look like the most outrageous madwoman that you can be, and the supposed rapist will back off to look for an easier target. That came in handy when dealing with my narc.



DesignDoctor said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

Brilliant strategy! Kudos to you.

Anyone taking hundreds of photos of you would be unnerving.
lizzie said…
@XXXXX wrote:

"...I have think that two babies will slow her down, will moderate her manic episodes that used to go on for days or a few weeks."

As I've said before, I don't think M is bipolar. But I certainly accept that opinions vary and obviously none of us know for sure.

But IF M gave birth it's very unlikely that would tamp down manic episodes. While we don't know the exact triggers, because of hormonal shifts, puberty and pregnancy are both associated with emerging bipolar disorder or worsening symptoms of existing bipolar disorder. Women diagnosed bipolar disorder are at greater risk post-partum, not reduced risk.

I'm also not aware that having children in the house (adopted, surrogate-birthed, visiting, whatever) would be a protective factor against manic episodes. Mania really isn't under voluntary control. And lack of sleep and stress tend to be associated with worsening symptoms of bipolar disorder.
DesignDoctor said…
@tatty

On behalf of the multiple rescue dogs who have owned me, thank you for your tireless, lifesaving work with those dogs!

I have the sweetest, most well-behaved rescue shih tzu now, who I cannot fathom how he ended up homeless! He went from homeless to pampered, adored companion.
JennS said…
@Nutties

Several very juicy Kraken articles have now been released at the Times!

I'm going to post them on my own blog and open it up for comments so we can discuss each topic and/or article individually in an organized manner. This will also keep discussions on each Harkle angle together permanently in one place for reference in the future.
Anyone wishing to participate is welcome to come on in!

In just viewing the new articles quickly I see they all relate (as do the others already released over the weekend) to those written by Valentine Low and Roya Nikkah in the Times published a few months ago. For example there is a new one on the "murder" earrings.
I already have those earlier articles on my blog so what I thought I would do is add the new ones with the earlier ones by topic and we can review all the info provided for each issue.

I'll need some time - maybe a couple of hours? - to add the new articles and figure out how to set up the comments. I'll be back to let you know when they are ready.

Please note I'm not suggesting people should stop posting here - I'm just offering another place to discuss the kraken in a targeted focused manner.
🤪😂🤣😂🤪
SwampWoman said…
OT

@SwampWoman

I am concerned you seem to be doing a lot. I think you're on your own at the moment (your husband is away looking after his mother), you look after the grandchild/ren, you were driving for hours. Do look after yourself x


I'm okay. I'm mostly concerned for my husband that is the primary caregiver for his mother; he had to retire for medical reasons and has suffered several strokes in the past. Keeping up with everything here is the easiest part. He's been under a great deal of stress with his father's death, the funeral, paying the bills, and juggling finances between here and there.

I'm having an increasingly hard time tolerating the stupid antics of the spoiled duo.
@Design Doctor,

Thanks! It did the trick! Or at least it helped.

@WBBM,

Please take care to not get too overly tired. You've got a lot on your plate, and we need you here when you have the time and energy.
@jenn,

I went to your profile page here to get to your other page, and there's no link to your blog on your profile page.
xxxxx said…
@lizzie
How about this. From her behavior we know about, do you accept or think that Megs goes through manic periods of days or week or two? Sure seems like this to me.
SwampWoman said…
That should be interesting, JennS. I'll probably be asleep when you post them. I'll be interested to see them and read the comments tomorrow night.
SwampWoman said…
xxxxx said...
@lizzie
How about this. From her behavior we know about, do you accept or think that Megs goes through manic periods of days or week or two? Sure seems like this to me.


The good news about having bipolar disorder is that it can be treated. The other problems she is suspected of having, not so much.
JennS said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@jenn,

I went to your profile page here to get to your other page, and there's no link to your blog on your profile page.
................

@Jocelyn

I put it on private while I was working on it but I reopened it now. I think I have the comments set up now and the first "subject" to comment on is ready. It's a post that includes all the kraken articles on the murder earrings and the fiji market issues. Can you please try commenting for me on this post? I have it set on moderation but will release your comment as soon as I see it.
I'm going back now to do posts for the rest of the new kraken articles....😊
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Puds

“EXCLUSIVE: Those close to Meghan Markle suggested the Duchess and Buckingham Palace are heading for a 'brutal showdown' as the former actress remains 'adamant the staff were not up to their job.”

I would love for Harry’s wife to explain how people work for the Royal Family for years/decades and are never let go because they are competent and do their jobs, but somehow every person she and #6 managed to hire or have assigned to them were complete idiots that couldn’t do the job.

Don’t get me wrong- I’m sure there have been people along the way with whom the RF had to part ways. It happens. But Harry’s wife lost NINE members of staff in 18 months. That’s one every other month. Many of them left after working for her for less than a year. Somehow, I don’t think HM or William are going through staff at that rate.

As usual, it never adds up with her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915063/Meghan-Markle-loses-NINTH-member-staff-aide-ran-Sussex-Royal-foundation-quits.html
HappyDays said…
So the Sussexes are STILL sticking to the fable they received the Queen’s approval to name their daughter Lilibet.

This admission by the Sussexes just digs them into a deeper hole.
———————————————-

Headline in The Telegraph:
Sussexes confirm they bought ‘Lilibet Diana’ domain before Queen’s approval

Victoria Ward
Mon, June 21, 2021, 11:57 AM

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have confirmed that they did buy the “Lilibet Diana” and “Lili Diana” internet domain names before their daughter’s name was approved by the Queen.

The revelation will raise further questions about whether the couple sought permission from Her Majesty to use the highly personal pet name or rather “told” her when the baby had been born.

A spokesman for the Sussexes said they purchased a “significant” number of domain names for a range of potential names they were considering.
It suggests that had the Queen strongly objected to the use of Lilibet, the couple did have other names to fall back upon.

The domain name lilibetdiana.com was snapped up in the US on June 4, the day the baby was born and two days before the public announcement, fuelling speculation that the couple had bought it either to prevent others cashing in or with the intention of setting up a foundation in her name.

Several days earlier, on May 31, the domain name lilidiana.com was registered, suggesting that the couple had already settled on the baby’s name.

A spokesman for the couple told The Telegraph: “Of course, as is often customary with public figures, a significant number of domains of any potential names that were considered were purchased by their team to protect against the exploitation of the name once it was later chosen and publicly shared.”

The name Lilibet was first used by the young Princess Elizabeth when she was unable to pronounce her name properly. It has only ever been used by her parents, her late husband Prince Philip and a handful of her closest friends and relatives.

The question of whether or not the Sussexes sought permission from the Queen to use the name for their second child caused a legal row after the BBC reported that they had “never asked”.
Lawyers instructed by the Duke and Duchess said it was “false and defamatory” for the corporation to suggest the couple did not ask the Queen.

The Sussexes have always insisted that they would not have used the name if the Queen had not been “supportive” of their choice.

But rather than confirming their version of events, Buckingham Palace refused to deny suggestions that the Queen had not been asked.

Even the couple's spokeswoman stopped short of suggesting that a conversation had been had with the Queen before Lilibet was born.

"The Duke spoke with his family in advance of the announcement, in fact his grandmother was the first family member he called," she said.

"During that conversation, he shared their hope of naming their daughter Lilibet in her honour. Had she not been supportive, they would not have used the name."

Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor, who will be known as Lili, was born at 11.40am (19.40BST) on Friday June 4 at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital in California.

The Sussexes are both taking several months’ parental leave, although the Duke will be in the UK next week for the unveiling of a statue of his late mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.
@jenn,

I tried to post a comment on your blog, but it vanished as I tried posting it. Twice. Could somebody else check Jenn's page? She needs to know if comments are showing up there. Thanks!
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@JennS
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

I did a test post and moderation is turned on. That's why they aren't posting.
Midge said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis
I just did a trial post per your request. Got the message that my comment would appear after approval so guess I will just have to wait to see if it shows up.
lizzie said…
@XXXXX asked:

"@lizzie
How about this. From her behavior we know about, do you accept or think that Megs goes through manic periods of days or week or two? Sure seems like this to me."

You may be right but I can't say I really see mania.

We don't (so far as I know) have any evidence of pressured speech, rapid speech, racing thoughts, unusual distractibility, abnormally "up" mood, unusual fidgeting, decreased need for sleep (reportedly being a 5am riser isn't enough), or objectively reckless behavior that is out of character (things like gambling, promiscuous sex, reckless driving, criminal activity like shoplifting are commonly seen with mania) Finally, symptoms would need to be present for at least 7 days for mania to be present from a clinical perspective (unless the symptoms are so severe, hospitalization is required, then fewer days.) A couple of days of unusual "up" behavior won't do it (and I'm not sure we've seen that anyway.) I see much of M's "up" behaviors as consistent with the "bend at waist, laugh out loud" faking she's done for years.

About the only symptom I see that could indicate mania is an inflated sense of self. But that can be explained by a couple of personality disorders including Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). And given that the inflated sense of self doesn't appear to be to be episodic but is almost always evident in what we see of M, a PD is more likely IMO vs a cyclic mood disorder.

Obviously I don't know which (if any) diagnosis is correct for M. But IF she's bipolar, I don't think the symptoms will lessen because of the children. I'd expect the opposite. Of course, the symptoms of NPD could get worse too. And honestly, I'd expect them to do that for a number of reasons (children as stressor and competition, goal frustration, possible drug use, aging, etc.)

So we'll see.
JennS said…
Midge Shadee Jocyln
The comments are working now so feel free to comment away!
I now have a second new article up from Lacey about PP's funeral
@midge,

Thanks for trying. I guess I'll try again a bit later to see if I can get a comment to go through.
JennS said…
Jocelyn's Bellinis

Its all working now and I have two sections up for posting on!😊

@jenn,

Thanks! I have some work to do, but will read later.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis
Princess Tiffany says that 6w had an all out physical fight a couple of nights ago with Doria at Mudslide Mansion. Evidently, Doria was mad that she'd done so much for 6 and wife that she was enraged that 6w didn't name the new baby after her. It came to blows and Doria walked out in tears.

Whether it's true or not, it embodies the cognitive dissonance a lot of people felt when we learned the new baby's name. It was baffling enough that they named her after a woman who started a legacy of "genetic pain" and who allegedly lets her courtiers run circles around her. That they also honored her over a woman who had (supposedly) helped them raise their firstborn really calls their values into question. And this is a very neutral way of putting things!

Throw in the new "children's" book and the slap in Doria's face is even more evident. For a book whose authoress prides herself on inclusivity and representation, it seems to represent only her mother-in-law and exclude her actual mother. Where are the allusions to Doria's favorite flower in The Bench?

Oh, wait. Silly me. I just remembered Harry's wife's childhood nickname. As her mother's favorite flower, she's already all over the book!
jessica said…
Hasn’t Meghan proved them all right?

They knew she wasn’t educated enough to be in the family. They knew she would not fit in, or struggle too much. No matter what her personal intent was joining the RF, she proved them all right. Their concerns were valid. How does she not see this?
AnT said…
@JennS,

Thanks — CoC—long day, will be figuring out posting tomorrow.
Doria seems too chill to get into a physical fight.
hunter said…
I agree that Meghan does not at all appear to be bipolar.

I also think those Times articles are a lot harsher on the Harkles than a lot of you seem to think, I'm surprised you consider them supportive.
hunter said…
Hey JennS - I REALLY am enjoying the cache of articles on your blog which I accessed from your username. When I clicked on "Older Articles" or whatever, to read more of them, it bounced me from your site saying:

This blog is open to invited readers only
http://acacheofclues.blogspot.com/
It doesn't look like you have been invited to read this blog. If you think this is a mistake, you might want to contact the blog author and request an invitation.

Well poop, I had not thought it was invite only. Not sure if you made a temporary switch or what.
JennS said…
@Hunter
Sorry about that...for now it's open to everyone - but now that I'm accepting comments I'm leaving it open only when I'm awake. I'm on my way to bed now so you were probably reading there when I switched it to private. I'm not sure why you got that message as I thought I set it to be read by blog owner only. I'll open it again tomorrow and will have more new articles to add.😊
Magatha Mistie said…

A pith-take on Oranges and Lemons

For Ham the Bell Tolls

More bitter lemons
From the St ‘Cito Lemmings
You owe us more tricks
rang the bells of Negflix
You’re Just two small fry
sang the bells of Spotalie
Those tolls you still owe
clapped the bell-ends Soho
Why did you sue me
was the tone of Mail Daily
It’s how I get rich
chimed the St ‘Cito Bitch
Here comes a clapper
to stop your lies, dead
And here comes a hammer
to strike your street cred

Nothing appealin’
In St Pith and Skin



@Magatha Mistie....

A pith-take on Oranges and Lemons


This has to be your best yet! 😂❤️😂
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Pith taking!👏 She's been doing it for years 🤣🤣

÷÷÷÷÷÷÷
Duchess Moaning Markle says

The best way to overcome racism and prejudice is to name your child after the accused.

Compassion in Action 🙏🏽
..........
And

I sent William a sweet ‘Happy Birthday’ video whilst still in My pyjamas this morning.

He blushed.

He still fancies me ☺️
https://mobile.twitter.com/SparkleMeghan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Magatha Mistie said…

@Raspberry

Cheers, meant to add a disclaimer:
No fruit was bruised
during this performance 😉
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

I tried to fit in “Delight/Surprise”
for you;
Bell ringing terms for a
Treble Bob 😜

Banana in pyjamas 😆


@Jocelyn's Bellini's

Your narc story is hair-raising - you were very wise not to take up that sporting invitation but well done to be able to turn the tables in that elegant way.

I catch up on my sleep during the day, so I get about 7-8 hrs in all - it's an absolute pain but I'm sorry to say I think it's age-related....



SirStinxAlot said…
@Happy days...what were some of the other domain names they snapped up? This could easily confirm their story that there were multiple domain purchased.
@Magatha-

Another brilliant one!

Harry Markle, in one of the very early posts, referred to a photo of the Gang of Three (MM, MA,DR) looking as `if they were in the Dock' - I can't recall if she mentioned the Old Bailey but predicted they could end up there!

Might another verse be called for?
SirStinxAlot said…
Blogger ShadeeRrrowz said...
@Puds

“EXCLUSIVE: Those close to Meghan Markle suggested the Duchess and Buckingham Palace are heading for a 'brutal showdown' as the former actress remains 'adamant the staff were not up to their job.”


Oddly, we have seen a high turn over rate here in the states as well. Catherine StLaurent was with the gates foundation for 5 years according to her linked in page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-st-laurent-06929b

Natalie Campbell who worker for the joint offices, then joined H$M when they split, left after a while as well. No telling how many low level people have left.
Magatha Mistie said…

Oooh, I’ll ponder WildBoar.
At the moment they’re being
tried by the Old (Mail) Daily
We need reinforcements,
St Trinians!!

Here’s the gist of an article in today’s Telegraph., what the Sussex’s spokesperson says is in italics - I've cut what we knew already.

“Sussexes confirm they bought ‘Lilibet Diana’ domain before Queen’s approval”

The revelation will raise more questions about whether couple sought advance permission to use Her Majesty’s pet name, or rather ‘told’ her
ByVictoria Ward21 June 2021 • 9:00pm


The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have confirmed that they did buy the “Lilibet Diana” and “Lili Diana” internet domain names before their daughter’s name was approved by the Queen.
The revelation will raise further questions about whether the couple sought permission from Her Majesty to use the highly personal pet name or rather “told” her when the baby had been born.

A spokesman for the Sussexes said they purchased a “significant” number of domain names for a range of potential names they were considering.It suggests that had the Queen strongly objected to the use of Lilibet, the couple did have other names to fall back upon.

The domain name lilibetdiana.com was snapped up in the US on June 4, the day the baby was born and two days before the public announcement, fuelling speculation that the couple had bought it either to prevent others cashing in or with the intention of setting up a foundation in her name. Several days earlier, on May 31, the domain name lilidiana.com was registered, suggesting that the couple had already settled on the baby’s name.

A spokesman for the couple told The Telegraph: “Of course, as is often customary with public figures, a significant number of domains of any potential names that were considered were purchased by their team to protect against the exploitation of the name once it was later chosen and publicly shared.”

The Sussexes have always insisted that they would not have used the name if the Queen had not been “supportive” of their choice.

But rather than confirming their version of events, Buckingham Palace refused to deny suggestions that the Queen had not been asked.

Even the couple's spokeswoman stopped short of suggesting that a conversation had been had with the Queen before Lilibet was born.


"The Duke spoke with his family in advance of the announcement, in fact his grandmother was the first family member he called," she said.

During that conversation, he shared their hope of naming their daughter Lilibet in her honour. Had she not been supportive, they would not have used the name."
Miggy said…
'Enough's enough!' As the Queen launches 'shot across the bows of Harry and Meghan's spin machine' – the Mail's royal experts give their video verdict on the latest extraordinary war-of-words over baby Lilibet's name.

As the briefing battle between the Sussexes and the Palace detonates over Prince Harry calling his daughter Lilibet, Mail's experts who broke the story tell THEIR truths

It was reported the Queen had been consulted on the name, only for Palace insiders to deny this to the BBC

This prompted furious Harry to threaten the broadcaster with legal action and release a statement

But Mail On Sunday royal expert Kate Mansey reveals an insider told her Harry's conversation with the Queen was a 'telling, not an asking'

Mail On Sunday Diary editor Charlotte Griffiths shares her theory that Harry didn't make it clear to the Queen during their phone call that she was being asked to make a decision on the name

Mail Diary editor Richard Eden says the Palace will have found Harry and Meghan sharing private conversations 'untenable'

Plus it's revealed it's '50pc William' behind Meghan's decision to not visit the UK for Diana statue unveiling


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9711589/Mails-royal-experts-video-verdict-baby-Lilibets-name.html
The Mail not only reports on the Telegraph report (!) but has a short piece about what did, or didn’t, happen after the funeral service.

In short , some people (not us!) believed that the brothers talked with Charles for 2 hrs – Lacey states that, according to friends of the Cambridges, this didn’t happen because they feared that anything significant would go straight back to Meghan and leaked elsewhere `via Oprah or some other tentacle of the Sussex network’.

How much weight can we place on Lacey’s use of the cephalopod metaphor? It suggests slime and sinister doings to me!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9710483/Kate-Prince-William-did-NOT-talk-Prince-Harry-Prince-Philips-funeral.html

Thanks, Miggy. The article you've covered popped up between me seeing this post & now!
Magatha Mistie said…

Kith and Spin

What lies, beneath
Thick Pith and Skin
Motivated by greed,
and an obsession to win
Taking a punt, on Li’l Bet
Not a wise move,
one they’ll regret
On the nose, a stab in the back
They’ve now ended up,
on the wrong track


DM articles are coming thick and fast:

Did Harry go 'nuclear' for 'revenge'? Royal expert suggests Prince 'threatened' he would do Oprah 'truth bomb' interview if Queen stripped him of military titles


This is based on `Royal Commentator’ (Me – a better term than `expert’!) Richard Fitzwilliams who supsects the Harkles had been warned about the loss of patronages and titles beforehand and were ready to drop `the Big One’ when the final confirmation came.

Mr Fitzwilliams told MailOnline: 'There is no doubt that harry valued his patronages terribly and there’s absolutely no doubt that if you look at this as a probable revenge.

‘They were told it was made pretty clear to them a year before them at the Sandringham Summit, they more or less knew they were going to lose their patronages.

'There were endless rumours in the years that followed that they were going to keep them - and they were left open.

‘It's also very possible that they threatened they might do this (interview), and perhaps the palace courtiers negotiating didn’t believe them.'


I can’t find a URL for this piece.
I've just enjoyed `Sparkle Meghan' - I hadn't seen that one before so thank you, Maneki Neko.
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

The DM articles are indeed coming thick and fast! :)

I've not had much had time for the blog of late but having read the DM article about William and Catherine NOT wanting to spend time talking to H after the funeral, I'd like to highlight the part where they mention Gayle King...

Ms King, who attended Meghan's baby shower in 2019, said on CBS she had been told by the Sussexes that they had been keen for the 'royals to intervene and tell the Press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant'.

Ms King, 66, who is also close friends with Oprah, failed to give any examples of the stories she was referring to, but added that Meghan has 'documents to back up everything that she said on Oprah's interview'.


... it suddenly occurred to me that those 'documents' that M claimed to have, (that most readers thought were possibly e-mail correspondence or legitimate documents) were in fact most probably the misleading HEADLINES that Oprah refused to take down!

What do you think?


@Magatha,

Loving your work, as always. *Chuckles* :)
Magatha Mistie said…

BP has finally bared their
teeth. It is the Kraken released,
they’ve now opened the gates,
bring it on!
Megs has more to lose
than the RF.
All out now, so there’s nothing left
for the divOrce..
WinKing must be devastated 😉





Magatha Mistie said…

@Miggy 😘

Cheeky sod Gayle WinKing
knows nowt, all for rating$
@Miggy

Excellent point! Those `headlines'!

Now I wonder who had been searching papers other than the British ones?

Who (ahem!) `amended' others?

How did Oprah get hold of them?

Three guesses are probably two too many!

abbyh said…
WWBM it is a side bar (in a gray box on my machine)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9711493/Harry-Meghan-confirm-DID-buy-Lilibetdiana-com-approved-Queen.html

recopied: Mr Fitzwilliams told MailOnline: 'There is no doubt that harry valued his patronages terribly and there’s absolutely no doubt that if you look at this as a probable revenge.

‘They were told it was made pretty clear to them a year before them at the Sandringham Summit, they more or less knew they were going to lose their patronages.

'There were endless rumours in the years that followed that they were going to keep them - and they were left open.

‘It's also very possible that they threatened they might do this (interview), and perhaps the palace courtiers negotiating didn’t believe them.'


Endless positive rumors about something they wanted? Who does trial balloons like that on a regular basis? Well they do tend to swirl around her (birthday cake, baby shower to name a few). It would be really sad if somehow 6 bought the rumor story.

In the sidebar, it mentions the possible warning/threat of the interview during Megxit negotiations in an earlier sentence (meaning the threat is mentioned twice in the brief brief commentary).


wow. Unwrap that:

Doesn't appear to mention the threat to his beloved grandmother but to the people under her.

Threats in negotiations are acceptable behavior practices.

Blames courtiers for failing to not recognize the threat as real.


Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

So they were told, at the
Sandringham summit, they would
lose their patronages.
But decided to blather on,
hoping for what?
Unhinged is a kind word for madness!
Thank you, AbbyH - I couldn't see for looking.

Is it another application of the `Fake it until you make it' principle - pretend it#'s going to happen so the other party thinks it better to concede.

No question of making a concession on one point if other party concedes on another...
SwampWoman said…
I've been watching experts on narcissism lately, and now I'm watching the Surviving Narcissism YouTube channel.

"What Happens When You Longer Play Into a Narcissist's Game": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiJdwBNB6o

"Top 5 Problems Created by Narcissists": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DELgDfcjU

I think it could be helpful for those that deal with these unstable influences. It seems to me that narcissists attempt to make their 'feelings' other people's responsibility and it is a manipulation technique. My response to anybody whining to me about their "feelings" in the workplace is "I'm not responsible for your feelings, you are. I suggest you learn to manage them. If you need help, I recommend mental health counseling."

abbyh said…
Maybe?

I was thinking of it more as a "let me broadcast what I want". If she did that growing up, say for birthday presents, she might have learned this was an easy way to get things she wanted and use that on people when they failed to do so (I'm thinking bf/gf/marriage type later on - part of the narking/ghosting/love bombing).
Miggy said…
Rumour time again...

This is allegedly about their stay at Tyler Perry's mansion.

https://twitter.com/SpringBrad1/status/1407249321595224065/photo/1
Elsbeth1847 said…

The DM has an article about how 6w "demands a point by point list" of the allegations.

Doesn't that sort of prove something about her behavior or at least gives a heads up about what the tone/intensity was like back then?

She would get that normally as an outcome of the investigation when they have finished discovery. And not before.

She can dispute it point by point when she gets the list (and she probably will).

She can call it a smear of her reputation but ... the difficulty is that it is being directed by an outside organization which has even less at stake in what is uncovered/published than she or the Palace. Neutrality.

So this is hanging over her head and will be for the rest of this year into next. Wonder what else is hanging over them that we don't know about? (music: Under Pressure with Queen and David Bowie).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9711525/Meghan-Markle-ready-brutal-showdown-Buckingham-Palace.html

On a different note: I am reading a book about Prince Philip. What a great guy. I wish I had been able to know him personally.

The Cat's Meow said…
Regarding the delay of the release of the bullying investigation...

Though I too am impatient and want lots of tea NOW, I think this is a brilliant move. First, the longer the "drip-drip" happens, the more likely that former staff will continue to come forward -- even those from the US. Secondly, publishing the report next year would RUIN any chances of MM attending the massive Jubilee set for 2022.

That will be the ultimate death-knell of her separation from the RF brand.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar said

I've just enjoyed `Sparkle Meghan' - I hadn't seen that one before so thank you, Maneki Neko.
----------
I did mention the site a couple of times before with a link. Glad you like it. I like her 'description':
American Princess. 👑 Duchess Difficult 👸🏽 Author ✍️ POTUS 2024 🇺🇸 Humanitarian 👶🏿 Pronouns:Me/Mine #MeghanMarkle #parody #comedy #satire 💫
Girl with a Hat said…
@Miggy, higher up on that twitter thread, someone says that Cressida said that Harry was rough in bed. I never heard that but now, it seems that this rumours of him being violent with sex workers might be true.
Maneki Neko said…
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry bought a website in the name of ‘Lili Diana’ almost a week before their daughter's birth and ‘Lilibet Diana’ on the day she arrived - all before getting approval from the Queen about using her pet name, it emerged today.

Four days before Lili was born in California the domain LiliDiana.com was registered on May 31 followed by LilibetDiana.com on June 4 – the day Archie's younger sister entered the world.


Are they now going to accuse the Queen not lying if she doesn't agree with their recollection of events?
--------------------
Apparently, M thought the Palace staff's were 'not up to the job'. Translation: they were not deferential enough. Not so, darling you were not up to the job. Quelle arrogance!
--------------------
Did anyone look at the photos of M at the market in Fiji? I'd forgotten about them, the first one shows M bored out of her skull but then others show her smiling, smirking actually, as she was led out because of a 'security risk' IIRC. She then spent the afternoon at a spa with Jessica... She's a piece of work.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Wild Boar Battle-maid:

"A spokesman for the couple told The Telegraph: “Of course, as is often customary with public figures, a significant number of domains of any potential names that were considered were purchased by their team to protect against the exploitation of the name once it was later chosen and publicly shared.”
_____

This is factually true. I worked for an outfit for a while that sold domain names, web hosting, etc., and we quickly became aware of businesses, public figures, political candidates and so on that bought up numerous similar domain names for protection, as it were.

But, what's not being stressed is H and M did this BEFORE "consulting" the Queen. As if they thought "well, she's going to agree anyway, because US."

Watched the latest edition (at least I think it is) of the Mail's Palace Confidential -- one of the journalists (Charlotte Someone) said she thinks H and M assumed the whole world would find it so sweet, so loving, to hijack the Queen's personal and private nickname, and, as always, it backfired spectacularly.

What I love are the weasel words they used -- we "shared our wish to use the name with the Queen" and not "We asked her permission" like they were supposed to, as an example. Another one: "We wouldn't have used it without consulting the Queen." (Paraphrasing)

One of the Grey Men: It was more telling than asking.

Nice to hear that the Palace is pushing back, anyway. "Enough is enough" indeed. They really need to throw down the gauntlet good and loud.
Miggy said…
@Girl with a Hat,

I can quite easily believe that H can be aggressive, (from what we've seen and heard of him) but I have to ask myself how would that poster know that Cressida actually said that about him? It's the first time I've ever seen that mentioned, anywhere! Hmmm.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Miggy said...
Rumour time again...

This is allegedly about their stay at Tyler Perry's mansion.

https://twitter.com/SpringBrad1/status/1407249321595224065/photo/1
_____

Wow Miggy! I'd give anything to know where THAT one came from! Thing is, rumor it might be, but it sounds more true than not.
SirStinxAlot said…
IMO, the delay is NOT a plotted power move. Thorough Investigations take a long time. The independent legal team is tracking down former employees. Some may have moved and the palace may not have updated information. There are also people in other countries like Canada, Australia, and United states who have alleged allegations against M$H abuse. Even though they are not directly employed by the palace, they are witnesses to the abuse of staff or experienced it themselves. It reinforces the bullying allegations and speaks to the Sussexs character. Im sure the legal team investigating will be extremely thorough. The Sussexs are extremely litigous so they need to cover all their bases before finalizing or releasing any information. I doubt M$H have been involved much in the Investigation, they just want to know who all is speaking out against them to smear those individuals publicly. No credible investigator would release that information until after the investigation is complete to maintain confidentiality and integrity of all involved. Doing so during the investigation would deter victims from speaking honestly or at all out of fear from their abusers.
Mom Mobile said…
@Carol 'Cat Eyes' Davis I think upthread @JennS explained that she would be intermittently setting her blog on private for admin reasons? I don't think she's intentionally being discriminatory. Her blog is relatively new and she's working some things out.

@Lt. Nyota Uhura Love your term "weasel words". So appropriate!

@Maneki Neko I looked at the Fiji market photos also. MM's attitude = Yuck! Isn't that the event where one of the reporters/photographers described her as insufferable (or the like)?
Miggy said…
@Lt,

Wow Miggy! I'd give anything to know where THAT one came from! Thing is, rumor it might be, but it sounds more true than not.

I agree, it does have a certain ring of truth about it. lol

Miggy said…
@Mom Mobile,

I can't recall where I read it now but apparently a journalist saw one M's aides crying in a car after the Fiji market debacle, after M was said to have snapped at her before she made her exit!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Mom Mobile said...

@Lt. Nyota Uhura Love your term "weasel words". So appropriate!
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Thanks, wish I could take credit, but the expression's been around, and yes, you're right, it IS appropriate!

It's what PR machines like SS excel at -- making something sound like it's true when it's not.

Speaking of which, H and M are now up to 9 PR people "on the ground" -- NINE (!) -- and they're still drowning in quicksand. Wonder how many of them they send for lattes, takeout food, etc.
SirStinxAlot said…
@ Miggy..i saw that too after the article appeared about the "Sussex Survivor " group was formed.
Miggy said…
@SirStinxAlot,

Thanks for confirming that it wasn't a figment of my imagination. :)

She really is a nasty piece of work.
lizzie said…
Re: Cressida

It seems to me i read Cressida said publicly Harry wasn't a very nice person. She also posted on her IG page "No matter how educated, talented, rich or cool you believe you are how you treat people ultimately tells it all.'"

I think some have said she was referring to Harry's unwillingness to pay for her plane ticket to his friend's US wedding (as she'd apparently also said he was cheap.) Others have said she meant rough sex. I don't think we know what or necessarily who she meant (Harry's not really "educated' is he?) so anything goes.
Unknown said…
Hello Everyone,

Please refrain from discussing other posters or the history of this blog. Let's get back on subject. Thanks in advance.
Natalier said…
Goodness me, some mentioned that "Cressida said that Harry was rough in bed". I think we can totally discount that.

If I am not wrong, it was one of the girls that he picked up in the US while over there for a training, said that about Harry.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@charade @abbyH

You are doing a super job moderating, thank you for keeping all in line. There really is no need for any of us here to snipe at each other. Even I, bigmouth that I can be, know that. Hope I don't come across as insulting anyone for posting their opinions. Please give a metaphorical elbow in my side if I do.

Thanks again :)
AnT said…
@Miggy:

Meghan Markle ‘hissed’ at Fiji market tour staff, leaving employee in tears

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghans-secret-blowup-during-fiji-tour-revealed/news-story/f0b523293aa8566c93676acd9b4d333c
Unknown said…
Everyone,

I am respectfully asking that we please stick to the Sussexes and the BRF. Please follow the guideline I just posted. If we cannot do that, the blog will be put on moderation. Thank you.
AnT said…
@Miggy,


and, the eyewitness report from RR Rebecca English of the Daily Mail:


“I was there at the time and witnessed Meghan turn an ‘hiss’ at a member of her entourage, clearly incandescent with rage about something, and demand to leave,” recalled Rebecca English of the Daily Mail.

“I later saw that same — female — highly distressed member of staff sitting in an official car, with tears running down her face,” English wrote Thursday.

“Our eyes met and she lowered hers, humiliation etched on her features.”

English linked the two events — Markle’s rage and the staffer’s tears and humiliation — as palace aides have “hit back” before the duchess’ Sunday interview with Oprah Winfrey.

https://pagesix.com/2021/03/04/2018-incident-with-meghan-markle-left-staffer-in-tears-report/



Also recounted here:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14230803/meghan-markle-turned-hissed-staff-member-fiji-tour/
Miggy said…
@Lizzie said:

Re: Cressida

It seems to me i read Cressida said publicly Harry wasn't a very nice person. She also posted on her IG page "No matter how educated, talented, rich or cool you believe you are how you treat people ultimately tells it all.'"

I think some have said she was referring to Harry's unwillingness to pay for her plane ticket to his friend's US wedding (as she'd apparently also said he was cheap.) Others have said she meant rough sex. I don't think we know what or necessarily who she meant (Harry's not really "educated' is he?) so anything goes.


The latest on this, is that Cressida was actually referring to M, as she had stayed in touch with H and had 'secretly' met up with him before the wedding! Maybe she met M too. Who knows?
Miggy said…
@AnT,

Thanks for finding the articles in question! :)
JennS said…
hunter said...
Hey JennS - I REALLY am enjoying the cache of articles on your blog which I accessed from your username. When I clicked on "Older Articles" or whatever, to read more of them, it bounced me from your site saying:

This blog is open to invited readers only
http://acacheofclues.blogspot.com/
It doesn't look like you have been invited to read this blog. If you think this is a mistake, you might want to contact the blog author and request an invitation.

Well poop, I had not thought it was invite only. Not sure if you made a temporary switch or what.

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JennS said...
@Hunter
Sorry about that...for now it's open to everyone - but now that I'm accepting comments I'm leaving it open only when I'm awake. I'm on my way to bed now so you were probably reading there when I switched it to private. I'm not sure why you got that message as I thought I set it to be read by blog owner only. I'll open it again tomorrow and will have more new articles to add.
😊
June 22, 2021 at 8:28 AM
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@Nutties

Sorry for any confusion - I'm still working out how to present my nutty satellite blog.

Now that I'm allowing comments I want to find a way to avoid sugars and trolls. There are 2 ways to do that while keeping the blog public - either use the same "comment moderation" that is occasionally used here, or turn the blog to private while I am asleep or unavailable to moderate the blog myself.

I had the blog on private overnight which means no one should have been able to see it.

⭐It's open to all again this morning and I have decided to use comment moderation for now since I will be in and out today. Feel free to leave any comments on the 3 posts marked as available for commenting. There will be a slight delay until your comment shows up, but it WILL turn up (unless of course it's a sugar/troll comment!)🤣

I'll be on the lookout for more Kraken from the Times today plus I'll be arranging more posts for 'commenting-platforms' by combining additional similar content together into unique posts. I'm planning on working on pulling together all the bullying info today.

When you wish to reply to one of the 3 available posts, you just need to click the word "comment" at the bottom of that post and it'll open up to the comments that are already there.
I'm using the nested comment format so you can easily reply to other people.
😊😊😊
AnT said…
@Miggy,

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1452836/meghan-markle-news-rushed-out-of-market-fiji-un-women-royal-news-latest

Meghan Markle 'fled Fiji market over UN Women grudge': 'Doesn't cope well with rejection'

A ROYAL biographer has offered a possible reason for Meghan Markle's rushed exit from a market in Fiji, saying it may have been a snub to UN Women after the group failed to make her an ambassador.



So, lots of existing memories of the episode.

Illustrating that things like this can be buried, altered or even sanitized, but not forgotten by those who were there.
CatEyes said…
@charade said...
"Please follow the guideline I just posted."

Where is the guideline?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Natalier,

no, we will not dismiss it just because you feel like it. I, for one, am intrigued by the possibility that Cressida did say that Harry liked it rough in bed.
JennS said…
AnT said...

Meghan Markle ‘hissed’ at Fiji market tour staff, leaving employee in tears
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghans-secret-blowup-during-fiji-tour-revealed/news-story/f0b523293aa8566c93676acd9b4d333c
.............

**@AnT

I'm so happy you're here today! I started using my blog for commenting - please come see!
I'm setting up certain posts as what I'm calling "comment-platforms".
Each platform will have a certain Harkle topic with all important data pulled together and a comment section below to discuss that particular subject. I have one for the Fiji market although there is more I can add to it.
😊🤪😊
@ The Cat's Meow said
Regarding the delay of the release of the bullying investigation...

Though I too am impatient and want lots of tea NOW, I think this is a brilliant move. First, the longer the "drip-drip" happens, the more likely that former staff will continue to come forward -- even those from the US. Secondly, publishing the report next year would RUIN any chances of MM attending the massive Jubilee set for 2022.

That will be the ultimate death-knell of her separation from the RF brand.



I agree. If the bullying investigation has take so long that it's results are known just before the Jubilee get going, that's all to the good.

It gives MM more time to screw up/alienate yet more people/be shown up by others and less time for the dust to settle and for them to try and wriggle their way back.

Napoleon again: `Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake'.
JennS said…
Those who are discussing the hissing details from the Fiji market - I think I have that original article and will look for it to move into my Fiji "platform". I also have the royal reporter's tweets from the day of the visit.
There is also the story about Markle's 'other' reason for not wanting the face the UN folks that I have to dig up.

And I'm pulling the bullying stuff into one platform so look for changes made in both those spots if interested...
🤣😱🤣
CookieShark said…
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AnT said…
Cressida Bonas saw future with Harry until ‘he ruined his chances’ by embarrassing actress

CRESSIDA BONAS allegedly saw a future with her former boyfriend Prince Harry - until he "ruined his chances" with her by "embarrassing" the actress through his public antics, reports claim.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1446058/cressida-bonas-prince-harry-vegas-billiards-embarrassed-meghan-markle-spt

The article is all over the place, muddying timelines, but does include this more interesting part:

The photographs did cause a huge stir behind Palace walls, and a source claimed: “Charles said to Harry, ‘As it stands, son, it’s bearable and we can manage it, but is there any more to come out?’”

They continued: “He has not been too angry so far and has advised Harry to keep his head down and let the situation calm down.

“It’s more his style to put his arm around Harry’s shoulder and have a word than to rollick him.”


abbyh said…
JennS has had her own blog for a while now and that is her topics, her space, her set up and her rules.

This is Nutty's blog.

People are free to read and post where they like.

On this blog, there are some general rules which was most recently posted as:

We love people to participate but need to encourage you all to get enough sleep, good solid meals and so on. Everyone adds a lot to this (which makes it so much fun). We all want that to continue. Blogs (such as this one) tend to be free-flowing conversations.

We have vastly different opinions and feelings that may be offensive to others. Feel free to express your thoughts and opinions but keep in mind that disagreement should be gentle and polite. Please be kind. Please use the magic words.

So, what we want to avoid, however, is cranky or snotty comments towards another blogger. Scolding or dismissing another poster's opinion is never appropriate. Although you might read your comments in your mind and think they are not irritating or upsetting - we don't hear inflection or the intensity of your voice (that you do). So it can come out a lot stronger than perhaps you meant it to us on "paper".

If you feel someone is stepping on your one last nerve, step away from the keyboard and do something else (go for a walk, pet the cat, check the news, make a cup of tea or something other than fire off some retort to that other poster). Nutty has set up the blog as a kindly sort of place not unlike people chatting in a coffee shop.

Please remember:

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It is not your job to criticize others. Everyone brings different ideas to the table. And that is what has always been good because without a differing point of view, we don't get a chance to really think out why we think this or that about the topic.

If you feel that something is not right, ask a moderator to recheck a comment. Just write: "Moderator" on a message by itself and we can look for it. We are not on 24 hours a day but we are on it a lot.

Thank you. And let's keep chatting. They certainly give us a lot to talk about.
AnT said…
@CookieShark,

I have heard it was indeed spa related.

She and Messica allegedly viewed the trip as a vacation, with "work things" getting in the way.

Messica's role as "private stylist" was side-eyed with the choice of see-through, thigh-slit clothing + the famous hanging tags.
Snarkyatherbest said…
it’s curious to me why all the focus in the press about fiji market. i get that the reporters feel more free to discuss their observations and i love that they are showing more pics especially the ones of no one crowding the mrs. i do find it curious after all these harkles years and now and year and a half post mexit why? is it just the reporters free to talk or was something more happening in fiji. is it code for “we have lots to reveal” but we will just skip around this one for a day or two. i often think that when these random stories or rehashing come out it’s like code for the harkles to read or a way to taunt them. or i’m just reading too much into this 😉
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Snarkyatherbest said...
it’s curious to me why all the focus in the press about fiji market. i get that the reporters feel more free to discuss their observations and i love that they are showing more pics especially the ones of no one crowding the mrs. i do find it curious after all these harkles years and now and year and a half post mexit why?

My opinion: The Royal Rota has had to keep its collective mouth shut, taking their cue from the Palace, but there is an air of release now, thanks to the Queen's signaling that she's not going to take it anymore. There may be, just MAY be, a bit of revenge from the press, too ;)

is it just the reporters free to talk or was something more happening in fiji.

Yes, the whole UN Women thing is finally coming out. M was incensed to find out that the outfit that failed to make her an ambassador was actually hosting the Suva market event. Hence the hissing at the aide and reducing her to tears in the car a bit later.

is it code for “we have lots to reveal” but we will just skip around this one for a day or two.

Very well could be

i often think that when these random stories or rehashing come out it’s like code for the harkles to read or a way to taunt them. or i’m just reading too much into this ��

No one can *taunt* and get away with it like the British press ;)
AnT said…

A friend just sent this Lacey quote to me, which she found on the Soap blog:


Meghan was less than 12 weeks pregnant and the announcement would normally have been made at a later stage
--another rumour confirmed by Lacey.
Miggy said…
DAN WOOTTON: The act of crass commercialisation that gives the lie to Meghan and Harry's claim that they asked the Queen's permission to name their daughter after her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9713025/Dan-Wootton-Meghan-Harrys-claim-Lilibets-name.html
Sylvia said…
@AnT
another rumour confirmed by Lacey
continued. (from Lipstick Alley )

'but she was already ‘showing’,” briefed an aide, “and hiding it would not have been possible. The rumours would have dominated the coverage and taken away from the entire purpose of the tour.”

Pregnancy did not diminish the energy with which Meghan tackled 14 flights and 76 engagements over the next 16 days,
Sylvia said…
Lace today continues his excerpts
The article ha a picture of #6w wearing the blood diamond earringswith full knowledge of their origins and more kraken.

I've just been looking at this site to find what the professionals think are good books for the very youngest children:

https://www.booktrust.org.uk/booklists/1/100-best-0-5/

Yes, it's a bit out of date but the general principles remain. There's a world of difference, it seems to me, between these and what MM has produced.

BTW, I love `Room on the Broom' even tho' it's a bit old even for the Prodigious Archie and a bit young for me. The animated version in English seems to have given way to trailers but there's a full dubbed version - in Icelandic! That suits me - I can pretend I'm learning the language

https://vimeo.com/523890205
Sylvia said…
@MomMobile I believe it was in Morocco thst a journalist used that'she's insufferable due to #6 behaviour when ignoring protocol being introduced ie barging ahead
pf #6 on the red carpet handling then refusing the proffered dates
@Sylvia & @MomMobile

Yes, that was the incident - to me, it looked as she even poked the dates.

I remember on the Queen drinking kava without hesitation on a South Pacific tour. This was a ritual welcome drink - made from fermented from roots that have been chewed.
This comment has been removed by the author.
I meant to add that it's extremely bad form/major breach of protocol to refuse food or drink offered as a greeting ritual, like refusing sheep's eyes. It can give grave offence.

I should also have deleted the surplus `on'.
Maneki Neko said…
@Mom Mobile said re the Fiji market:

Isn't that the event where one of the reporters/photographers described her as insufferable (or the like)?
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Possibly, I can't remember but what I remember is that a reporter said during the trip to Morocco the following January 'She's repugnant'. Perhaps this is what you meant?
Maneki Neko said…
@Sylvia and Wild Boar

You posted just before me. It was definitely 'She's repugnant', that's how a reporter described her.

Wild Boar, correct, it's extremely bad form to refuse food/drink offered by their host. And she tried to work in an embassy!! She doesn't have a clue and doesn't care about other cultures.

I understood it was at the Morocco that someone said she was `repugnant'.

It wouldn't surprise me if reporters muttered words to the same effect at every single one of her engagements!
Miggy said…
New Lady C video.

Meghan SCHEMES 2 DEFEAT Prince CHARLES 4 titles & support/PALACE resolved 2 Resist/con tricks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BwTcCJkX5M
Natalier said…
Here is a source to the rough story:

https://blindgossip.com/famous-son-got-very-rough/
Midge said…
Here is the article in which Rebecca English tells about Meghan reducing a member of her staff to tears at the market in Fiji:
https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/04/meghan-hissed-at-employee-and-reduced-her-to-tears-in-fiji-visit-row-14188561/
Hikari said…
@XXXXX wrote:

"...I have think that two babies will slow her down, will moderate her manic episodes that used to go on for days or a few weeks."

It's charitable of you to accept that she is currently running after a toddler and caring for an infant in Mudslide Manor. If *only* we could prove that was actually the case . . or not. As an advocate for children and all living things, my sincerest wish is that she not have any children, now or ever, in her care. I would give my own life to make sure this were true, because if she is a mother now, through whatever means, these two little people under her sway will be emotionally destroyed and stunted. If M can drive royal staffers into breakdowns and therapy based on a handful of workplace incidents over a few weeks, imagine what being trapped with her for 20 years would be like.

In general, I think we would be hard-pressed to find any instances, even among the happiest and most well-adjusted of women where the strains of pregnancy, childbirth and parenting infants and toddlers actually *improved* the mental health of the mother. Between the physical demands, the wild hormone fluctuations, the exhaustion and the constant anxiety over the baby's well-being and one's skills at caring for him/her . . even the sturdiest of new mothers get frayed. If M had been on some psychotropic medications, for bipolar or other and had to stop due to pregnancy/breastfeeding (of which she insists she's aces at both), that would not be conducive to improved mental health. I'm just theorizing here about what might happen in normal circumstances of a new mother, not that I believe M is one.

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Re. the whole screaming fight with Doria over the baby name, etc.

Not sure how reliable that source might be--and New Idea is a rag, so I discredit anything htey print, though they seem to be really enthralled with the house of Windsor for an Australian publication. That's just it--they are so far Down Under that I doubt they have any real intel about what goes on in England--there is a lot of anti-Harkle sentiment that is entertaining to read, however.

I disbelieve that:
1. Doria is so fond of her rather odd name that she'd want to see a baby saddled with it, or strive to insert herself into 'Royalness' that way.

2. That in fact this argument happened at all. I don't believe Markle has anything to do with her mother. Doria's name is invoked when M needs some of her 'black' cred, and Doria has been inserted into some photo ops allegedly among the Royal family. I don't believe D. was in England at any point after the Grenfell cookbook launch, when the newly "preggers" Duchess needed to import her black mother for show-and-tell to the minority women of the Grenfell kitchen community. I think Doria cashes the checks, wherever that money comes from and keeps her head down. I do not believe she's ever acted as 'nanny' or mother's helper to her daughter, though she may have been happy to live it up at Tyler Perry's mansion when the Harkles were crashing there. Now that they live in Montecito, a good 45 minutes to an hour away from Doria's depending on traffic, would she really make that drive to scream at her daughter in the driveway of a mansion where M may or may not be living?

D. would have learned early that when one is grifting, best not to call attention to oneself. Doria may be an opportunistic criminal but she obviously doesn't have the same afflictions of NPD as her daughter or else we'd hear more from her. If D. were like her daughter, she wouldn't be so easily controlled/silenced. As it is, she's nearly as enigmatic as Nessie, a blank canvas for whatever role her daughter needs her to play at any given time.
hunter said…
Someone on LSA asked this and I'm hoping one of our UK Nutties will have an idea:

Question: If they turned down the Lady and Earl titles for the kids (the ones to which they have a right to be styled) can they come back and say oh, well, yeah alright we'll take those because its better than nothing? Or is that a done deal?
hunter said…
For people curious about JennS's site let me please clarify - she has reproduced a significant number of stories there from a variety of sources which have often been left behind or forgotten.

On JennS's site, each of these specific articles and the issues they raise can be addressed in the comment section of each (reproduced) article. These articles even have links within them to other articles which is a real pain in the ass to reproduce, just sayin.

Our place here with Nutty is a longform discussion blog with frequent topic shifts which is fine and the latest is always pretty current.

These two sites serve two different purposes, JennS's is more of a repository of proof, I wish you would all be nicer to her.
Henrietta said…
Blogger Miggy said...
Rumour time again...

This is allegedly about their stay at Tyler Perry's mansion.

https://twitter.com/SpringBrad1/status/1407249321595224065/photo/1


This has just blown me away.

SirStinxAlot said…
Can anyone find the article about M bringing bagels to the palace staff? At the time whispers of bullying and texts/emails/ calls had already started to circulate in the media. At the time I thought - harass the staff and then bring them vagels- reminds me of abusive men. They beat up their wife/ girlfriend and then apologize by bringing them flowers. Rinse and repeat.

I recall this blog picking it apart for many reasons. 1) M didn't show up til 10am or later with the goodies, staff had been working since 7-8am. 2) The PR article was exaggerated claiming "Best day ever!" Over some bagels?!? 3) Kate had apparently done the same thing previously. Copycat per usual.

Am I misremembering?
Hikari said…
@hunter

I'm not a UK Nutty, so someone may have better information, but it's my understanding that 'Lord/Lady' would come to the children automatically, even if higher titles are refused them. No matter what happens to Harry's dukedom, he will remain a Prince of the blood and a son of Charles. As a member of the highest aristocracy in the land by birth, it's unthinkable that those children would not be Lord/Lady. Those are styles, not titles, and given that Haz remains royal-born no matter what else happens, I think the kids would be considered that lowest form of noble address.

Her Maj and the Church of England gifted Markle with the title and style of 'Princess Henry of Wales' by dint of her marriage. Harry would have to be stripped of his Princely title he's worn since he was born. Charles's wish for a stripped down monarchy applies to those full-time working royals which would receive monies and security from the Crown. Otherwise titles are only for show and don't cost anything to bestow, especially something as humble as a 'Lord/Lady' style. The Wessex kids are Lord and Lady, and James is a Viscount. I suppose that James will in time become Earl of Wessex when and if Edward gets promoted to Duke of Edinburgh. It remains to be seen now if Louise and James will become working royals in time, seeing as the Sussexes are washouts, along with Andrew. When William is King he is going to need some younger bodies filling the ranks, seeing as besides himself and Catherine, the 'young' working royals are within sight of 60, and the rest are in their 70s. By the time William is King, James and Louise will be in their late 20s or 30s and thus a perfect age. It will help their future chances that their parents are in the Queen's good books and have conducted themselves so well for the Firm. Even so, expect that the Wessex kids will be prepared for careers they can do alongside their Royal work and be more part-time Royals.

What I don't know is whether one's father must be at least an Earl to rate being addressed as Lord or Lady? Because, yeah, if Harry's Dukedom and adjacent titles all go, he would no longer have a subsidiary title to pass on to 'his boy'. But is the son/daughter of a Prince of the realm entitled to be addressed as 'Lord/Lady' anyway? As long as Charles does not let any of the Sussex clan claim Crown support as 'working', I wonder if he would hesitate to deny his own grandchildren the style of Prince/Princess. Rank is so very important to Charles, and making his grandchildren Prince/Princess would be a sign of his own long-awaited promotion to monarch.

However, this entire discussion is moot if the children don't exist except on paper. I wonder what Grandpa Charles may or may not know about THAT.
Sir Stinxalot

I recall reading that she announced the 10am food with the cry of `Breakfast!'which wasn't appreciated.
Miggy said…
@SirStinxAlot,

From this article... it was hand warmers for the palace guards and an ice cream stand for the staff.

I don't recall bagels. (not to say it didn't happen, it may well have.)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1083970/meghan-markle-royal-guards-royal-family-news
Christine said…
Hello, hello all.

It's very interesting to see what is going on in the Markle Saga. To have the Fiji story back out in the public's face is incredibly unflattering to her. That is one instance where it was very hard for her to hold back her true feelings... look at the pic of her at the stand with the ladies selling the pillows and blankets. WOW! What a b*tch! The worst part though is the photo of one of her aides that looks so scared, so petrified looking over at Meghan. It's chilling!

It appears that the bullying case is being built in front of the public's eyes. H&M sure

Magatha should write us a poem about it! :D
AnT said…
Speaking of benches....

From a November 2020 Architectural Digest online article: Prince Charles designed a line of high end outdoor sustainable wood furniture at Highgrove in around 2003, including..... a bench.


Charles Designed a Furniture Line for His Highgrove House | Architectural Digest

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/prince-charles-designed-a-furniture-line-for-his-highgrove-house

By Madeleine Luckel
November 19, 2020

From the article:

.....while casual royal watchers might be familiar with his efforts to help combat global warming and his appreciation for great buildings of yesteryear, not many are acquainted with his efforts in creating eco-chic outdoor furniture. (And no, this hasn’t been covered on The Crown, at least not yet.)

In January 2003, Prince Charles appeared on the cover of Architectural Digest to promote his inaugural collection. The cover story, which was titled “HRH Prince Charles Presents Contemporary Furniture for the Garden,” featured a portfolio of consciously crafted wooden designs posed like works in a sculpture garden. The impetus for the collection was to help the local economy of Herefordshire, which has a large wood industry, and is part of the prince’s Duchy of Cornwall.

The article was filled with insights as to what exactly Charles cared about while working on this project. “Prince Charles wanted the pieces to be sculptural and tactile,” Stephen Florence, a Welsh designer with whom Charles collaborated on the collection, explained at one point. “He saw them, in fact, not only as useful things to sit on and contemplate a garden from, but as things in a garden to be looked at, ornamental in their own regard: artifacts that would enhance the beauty and geometry of the setting.”

Interestingly, the designs were first created for the Prince's Gloucestershire country house, Highgrove House, which is a prominent location during season four of The Crown. (Prince Charles purchased it in 1980, just around the time that the new season begins.) The furniture designs created circa 2003 were also almost strikingly modern, as Florence’s colleague Will Bullough pointed out. “I think that’s one of the illusions, actually—that Prince Charles would want traditional garden furniture,” Bullough said. “The fact that he has often spoken out on behalf of certain traditional designs is really no reason to imagine that he isn't just as receptive to interesting innovative designs. But because the Prince is universally associated with lofty historical references, this furniture may come as a little bit of a surprise to an awful lot of people, who will all be expecting it to be very recognizably traditional indeed—and that it's not, I think, will be a source of great excitement to everybody.”

Interestingly, Charles is not without royal and royal-adjacent acquaintances who have worked or dabbled in the furniture trade. Viscount Linley, Charles’s first cousin and the son of his aunt, Princess Margaret, is a woodworker and furniture maker by trade. Recently, Princess Diana’s brother Earl Spencer, who is Charles’s former brother-in-law, collaborated with Theodore Alexander on a collection. So who knows, perhaps one day we might even get a line of sofas designed by Kate Middleton? Or a collection of Meghan Markle–approved chairs? If the past is any indication, there might just be hope.

Following the line about Meghan in the online article is a photo of a bench designed by Charles.

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Enbrethiliel said…
I also find it interesting that the Fiji shenanigans are getting media attention again. My main question is: Why now?
hunter said…
Hikari says "As a member of the highest aristocracy in the land by birth, it's unthinkable that those children would not be Lord/Lady. Those are styles, not titles
...But is the son/daughter of a Prince of the realm entitled to be addressed as 'Lord/Lady' anyway?"


Harry IS an Earl - Earl of Dumbarton. :D

Under what circumstances are Lord & Lady used, and why do the children not already have these styles if Lady Louise and Lord Sevrin already have theirs?

lol Lord and Lady Dumbarton - maybe that's why they aren't using them
Christine said…
I wonder if the Fiji aides have been interviewed and their stories found to be credible and upsetting to the Royal Family. I am certain we'll see a lot more of these types of older stories or examples that clearly show her bullying behavior.
AnT said…


@hunter

re the use of "Dumbarton" -- exactly, lol.

I am of the opinion that nothing will ever satisfy the Harkles, short of living in Buck House as King & Queen, so why bother trying.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hunter
It's poor Archie who gets the short end of the title stick. His father's lesser titles are Earl of Dumbarton and Baron Kilkeel.

I think Baby $2 can get away with "Lady Lili." It at least sounds nice.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Enbrethiliel said...
I also find it interesting that the Fiji shenanigans are getting media attention again. My main question is: Why now?
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I truly do think the RR, and maybe the press in general, feels as if they've been cut loose from a lot of the restrictions they've been under, both from respect for the Palace and fear of M and H's lawsuits. The Queen has the upper hand, now, she has had enough, and after all, M and H can't sue everyone!

I think the Fiji thing is the first of many salvos. I hope so, anyway ;)
AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel,

Perhaps the press (knowing quite a bit) are annoyed that the Palace will drag out the bullying investigation for a year, and so are doing what they can to illustrate similar behaviors that happened in public and were discussed at the time by recognized press.

Starting with Fiji would make sense. A noted RR wrote about it and the press can point to it safely since there were witnesses.
My recollection about her bringing in what was, by then, a midmorning snack for her staff suggested to me at the time that she'd breezed in with a paper bag of something like doughnuts when they'd already been hard at it for some hours.

I thought that the ice-cream-stand story referred to what she said she'd given to support staff in her pre-royal existence.

Our reaction was along the lines of `Who the heck thinks that's a good idea? Is she trying to make out that she's a loving and considerate to work for? It's no substitute for treating staff civilly in the first place.'
lizzie said…
I do remember the bagel story or at least a story about some sort of bread/pastries being brought to the office. And yes, it was reported M breezed in mid-morning and announced "breakfast!" which was ridiculous for people who had already been at work for hours.(And maybe waked up by text chimes at 5am!)

"Best day ever" I thought was supposedly said about the ice cream bar for staff. I had some low-level jobs in my youth and was periodically a "starving student" but I never would have thought free ice cream once was that big of a deal in my life. And I doubt they did at KP either if it ever even happened.
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I think @JennS's archive is great. I've not visited recently but know there's a lot of good stuff there. Thanks, Jenn.
Enbrethiliel said…
@AnT
Starting with Fiji would make sense. A noted RR wrote about it and the press can point to it safely since there were witnesses.

And apparently, photos, too! I wonder if there's also video, which would be even more damning.

Do you think the teapot throwing story will be confirmed next?
Maneki Neko said…
I was walking past a branch of Waterstones - a large UK bookseller - and decided to see how a certain book fared. I found 5 copies, not prominently displayed and not advertised,and certainly not in the window. The book itself is bigger than I thought, about 25-28 cm long x 20-22 wide and thin, so not good for very young children to hold. Added to that, the book has a dust jacket which, again, is not suitable for a children's book. (@Hikari, is that right?).

Never mind the very dull, uninspiring prose (or was it 'poetry'?), I can't see the book being suitable for children, notwithstanding Archie's love of it.
Enbrethiliel said…
I also remember the story about Harry's wife swooping in with a late "breakfast" for people who had been hard at work for hours. I recall thinking that they must have been really irritated with her to turn their noses up at free food. (At least I was always happy when my boss sprung for donuts or pizza in the middle of the day.)

Perhaps Harry's wife descended upon them right after the morning coffee break, when they would have already had a snack? It would be just like a narc to flub the timing (deliberately?) and then turn the story around on those who had rejected her "kind" gesture.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
DM article: Meghan is ready for 'brutal showdown' with Buckingham Palace in bullying probe: Duchess demands 'point by point' breakdown of claims and will 'dispute them ALL', source claims

Hahahaha! The Palace owes her NOTHING. The demanding M is bringing a knife, and a paring knife at that, to a gunfight.

😈
Christine said…
Another thing- what's with this storyline pushed out again about how Harry is going back to Frogmore to stay with Jack and Eugenie in his 'own suite'. I swear if Jack and Eug are living there, I'll be highly dissapointed! Not that it really matters one way or another but can they not own their own place?!

Anyways, I've been pretty annoyed in general with all things Sussex related but the Fiji story pulled me on. I better go back on my cleanse LOL.

Wills and his kids looked so great on Father's Day though. Those tall genes are really coming through. Charlotte will have her momma's legs.
Christine said…
Lt. Nyota- I just read that too. Meghan, go have a seat somewhere!

The one thing she will do though, is somehow leak the names of the aides that have complained.
SirStinxAlot said…
Just think, all the money the Sussexs are spending on PR. Not only to promote themselves as do gooders but also to combat all the negative articles about the spoilt entitled bullying behavior. H will be broke in no time. Sometimes you don't need a courtroom victory, just bleed your opponent to death financially. The palace has the funds, H has allegedly been cut off by cash point Charles. Any trust fund money is going to dwindle. Any property in trust will need to be sold for $$$$.💵💷🏧
Enbrethiliel said…
What is it with Princess Eugenie? Why is it so easy for Harry and his wife to use her for their PR?

Is it because she's still sticking to "never complain, never explain"? Or is it because she's genuinely sympathetic to them? I confess that I really don't get it. And if the latter case is what's going on, I wish I knew her reasoning. She may have poor judgment in this, but I would like to know what she's factoring in before I judge her, too.
Maneki Neko said…
@Enbrethiliel said re the Fiji shenanigans:

My main question is: Why now?
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I think the gloves are off and the latest is part of Lacey's book. Here is an excerpt from the DM article:

Suggesting that Meghan's swift exit years later was down to what she'd seen as a snub, Mr Lacey quotes a Los Angeles screenwriter who told him: 'Meghan does not cope well with what she perceives as rejection.

'She's nice and smiley as can be until you step in her way or don't give her what she hopes for. Then she can be remorseless – heaven help you!'


The witch in a nutshell.

I hope more tea is released in a constant drip, drip, drip of revelations.
SirStinxAlot said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
DM article: Meghan is ready for 'brutal showdown' with Buckingham Palace in bullying probe: Duchess demands 'point by point' breakdown of claims and will 'dispute them ALL', source claims.


If she is still making demands, the investigation is ongoing and the investigators haven’t given her anything. She just wants to smear the victims publicly. Until the investigation is complete, her attorneys wont get anything. Thats how investigations work.
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said: Re. the whole screaming fight with Doria over the baby name, etc.

Not sure how reliable that source might be--and New Idea is a rag, so I discredit anything htey print, though they seem to be really enthralled with the house of Windsor for an Australian publication. That's just it--they are so far Down Under that I doubt they have any real intel about what goes on in England--there is a lot of anti-Harkle sentiment that is entertaining to read, however.

I disbelieve that:
1. Doria is so fond of her rather odd name that she'd want to see a baby saddled with it, or strive to insert herself into 'Royalness' that way.

2. That in fact this argument happened at all. I don't believe Markle has anything to do with her mother. Doria's name is invoked when M needs some of her 'black' cred, and Doria has been inserted into some photo ops allegedly among the Royal family. I don't believe D. was in England at any point after the Grenfell cookbook launch, when the newly "preggers" Duchess needed to import her black mother for show-and-tell to the minority women of the Grenfell kitchen community. I think Doria cashes the checks, wherever that money comes from and keeps her head down. I do not believe she's ever acted as 'nanny' or mother's helper to her daughter, though she may have been happy to live it up at Tyler Perry's mansion when the Harkles were crashing there. Now that they live in Montecito, a good 45 minutes to an hour away from Doria's depending on traffic, would she really make that drive to scream at her daughter in the driveway of a mansion where M may or may not be living?

D. would have learned early that when one is grifting, best not to call attention to oneself. Doria may be an opportunistic criminal but she obviously doesn't have the same afflictions of NPD as her daughter or else we'd hear more from her. If D. were like her daughter, she wouldn't be so easily controlled/silenced. As it is, she's nearly as enigmatic as Nessie, a blank canvas for whatever role her daughter needs her to play at any given time.


Whenever I hear Doria mentioned, I can almost smell the marijuana scent wafting from her. I imagine that she'd be too stoned most of the time to exhibit anger. Besides, that is a silly thing to get worked up about unless she is a narc herself.
AnT said…

Blogger @Lt. Nyota Uhura said...

DM article: Meghan is ready for 'brutal showdown' with Buckingham Palace in bullying probe: Duchess demands 'point by point' breakdown of claims and will 'dispute them ALL', source claims
Hahahaha! The Palace owes her NOTHING


1. Last time I knew of a real-life biz staffer demanding and complaining loudly like MM, they turned out to be quite guilty as charged, but were just trying to silence their victims (oops! they actually riled up other unknown victims enough to come forward).

2. Agreed, Palace owes her nothing. Miss "Gets what she wants" must be scared of something, though.

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Enbrethiliel said…
@Christine
The one thing she will do though, is somehow leak the names of the aides that have complained.

I agree that she'd be vindictive enough to do that, and I hope the Palace will protect the aides who are cooperating.

On the other hand, it would be hilarious if some aides did get identified and they all happened to be black!
Sylvia said…
From LA poster
More about #6 and his time in the armed forces

'He (#6) had to have a Brigadier mentor him all though his Army career, my husband was his boss at one point and I wish the reporters could get their hands on his records. My husband isn’t allowed to say what happened.

I live in a very military area of the country and have heard mutterings about his behaviour from several sources. One former senior officer said that he would vote for a tour in Hell provided he didn't have to wetnurse Harry again.

The men and women who had to fight felt like they had a child that needed protecting with them. He was nothing but a hindrance. He caused problems.

He struggled with East and West ffs!

Not just dim but actively intellectually challenged
Enbrethiliel said…
@Maneki Neko

And wouldn't it be fascinating if the tea included more stories out of Hollywood? This has the potential to be the most complete portrait of a narc that we ever get!
AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel,

I think there is a good chance a teapot or teacup target (or witness) will be speaking up, yes.
Hikari said…
Harry IS an Earl - Earl of Dumbarton. :D

Under what circumstances are Lord & Lady used, and why do the children not already have these styles if Lady Louise and Lord Sevrin already have theirs?

lol Lord and Lady Dumbarton - maybe that's why they aren't using them


Yes, Haz is still the Earl of Dumbarton, for now. I was projecting as to what his kids might be entitled to be, if anything, if H were stripped back to just 'Prince Harry'. I don't think that will ever be removed.

It may depend on whether the Palace knows that there aren't actually living children to make the gift of titles to? That's why I suggested in an earlier post that Granny dangle the carrot of titles for the bairns, military honorifics restored, etc, on the condition that two living children plus their relevant birth certificates, affadavits and DNA results be presented to Herself and her ministers. Basically, put up or shut up. We've got *no proof* other than doctored photos released by Meghan herself that anyone in the Royal family has ever seen Harry's child(ren). Archie's appearance changes so drastically from 'appearance' to 'appearance' that there is certainly room for doubt. Prove these children exist, and then we will discuss any titles in their future.
Sylvia said…
Skippy blog posted

Tamarindos on twitter

'The truth about those pregnancies'

(The post is detailed and challenging)

https://mobile.twitter.com/tamarindos9?lang=en
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
DM article: Meghan is ready for 'brutal showdown' with Buckingham Palace in bullying probe: Duchess demands 'point by point' breakdown of claims and will 'dispute them ALL', source claims.


If she is still making demands, the investigation is ongoing and the investigators haven’t given her anything. She just wants to smear the victims publicly. Until the investigation is complete, her attorneys wont get anything. Thats how investigations work.
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Right on. And not only that, the Queen is not about to divulge anything from a Palace investigation, much less a third-party independent one.
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Blogger AnT said...

Blogger @Lt. Nyota Uhura said...

DM article: Meghan is ready for 'brutal showdown' with Buckingham Palace in bullying probe: Duchess demands 'point by point' breakdown of claims and will 'dispute them ALL', source claims
Hahahaha! The Palace owes her NOTHING

1. Last time I knew of a real-life biz staffer demanding and complaining loudly like MM, they turned out to be quite guilty as charged, but were just trying to silence their victims (oops! they actually riled up other unknown victims enough to come forward).

2. Agreed, Palace owes her nothing. Miss "Gets what she wants" must be scared of something, though.
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I'd be scared as h*ll, if I were her, because she knows it's all true. I feel pretty safe in having that opinion, because there is so much smoke there, with a forest fire behind it, in terms of all the allegations about her behavior through the years. She always had a kind of posse, tho, up to and including post-Suits days. Wonder if that's still true. (Not that they can help her much.) And your No. 1 item is spot on. Not to get too crude, but as one of my dear brothers likes to say, "He who smelt it dealt it."
Christine said…
I would like the aides to have courage and step forward.

I think the Palace, the Royal Family and the courtiers are no longer afraid of H&M. There was a level of fear that you could sense from them previously, but that's gone. H&M have already done a damning interview. They've already called the family racist, they've already insulted the family, the public and the staff. Also, Meghan has had her final child (according to Harry they are only having two children), so that level of goodwill is done and gone. She could have received more goodwill after Lili's birth but the utter controversy of the name destroyed that. The 'will Harry or won't Harry' come to Diana's statue also has really fizzled out. You just sense that the RF just does not care.

So now the full bullying investigation will go through along with a press and palace campaign fueled by the Queen's recent decision to fight untrue allegations. Things won't be rosy for Meghan Markle!
Christine said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura-

I'd be scared as h*ll, if I were her, because she knows it's all true. I feel pretty safe in having that opinion, because there is so much smoke there, with a forest fire behind it, in terms of all the allegations about her behavior through the years. She always had a kind of posse, tho, up to and including post-Suits days. Wonder if that's still true. (Not that they can help her much.) And your No. 1 item is spot on. Not to get too crude, but as one of my dear brothers likes to say, "He who smelt it dealt it."


Absolutely!!!!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
I'd be scared as h*ll, if I were her, because she knows it's all true.

So would I . . . but then again, we aren't narcissists. She's not afraid that people are going to learn the truth; she's furious that she's not loved and adored despite the truth. What a pesky detail to get in the way of her own "ultimate birthright"!

There was a Twitter user who claimed to be a recovered narcissist and who was staunchly against Harry's wife. She gave the following illustration of how a narc's mind works: Many years ago, she had committed identity fraud in order to pay for cosmetic surgery . . . and when the woman whose identity she had stolen pressed charges, she was angry at the woman for inconveniencing her.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Christine
I would like the aides to have courage and step forward.

So would I, but it's a little like our previous fantasy of Skippy and Harry's other old friends revealing that they may have met Harry's wife on a yacht and "known" her before he did. They'd simply have too much to lose to come forward with that now -- and if Harry has dumped them, it wouldn't even be worth it.

An aide who goes public now would forever have his or her name linked to Harry's wife, no matter what else he or she may achieve professionally. It might be career napalm.
Christine said…
Does Megsy have an assistant now? I'm guessing so since she's such a malignant narcissist. I think now H&M use a firm though exclusively. Having a group of, oh say 5-6 people to manage her probably helps to keep her from doing her targetting of one particular person.

Dear God, can you imagine being her nanny though!? I bet it's a living hell. Like indentured servitude. I would imagine she's been through a large number of nannies. Doria herself probably finds excuses to get outta there too.
Christine said…
Enbrethiliel- Excellent point. We'll probably see unknown informants unless somehow the names are managed to be leaked.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Christine said...
I would like the aides to have courage and step forward.

I think the Palace, the Royal Family and the courtiers are no longer afraid of H&M. There was a level of fear that you could sense from them previously, but that's gone. H&M have already done a damning interview. They've already called the family racist, they've already insulted the family, the public and the staff. Also, Meghan has had her final child (according to Harry they are only having two children), so that level of goodwill is done and gone. She could have received more goodwill after Lili's birth but the utter controversy of the name destroyed that. The 'will Harry or won't Harry' come to Diana's statue also has really fizzled out. You just sense that the RF just does not care.
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Yep, absolutely! right back to you!

They've played whatever aces they hold. Now they're in the pairs territory, and deuces at that. Funny how everything they do turns into @#$%.

I'll go one further -- I, along with others, think they're broke, or getting there fast. Sixteen bathrooms indeed. Multi-million $$$ deal with Spotify/Netflix indeed. It's all a sham, IMO. Upthread, @Miggy posted a link to a Tweet that alleges why they were thrown out of Tyler Perry's home. (Demanding the whole house to themselves, breaking glasses and dishes, screaming bl00dy murder at the staff). O must be putting them up somewhere for the time being. Eh, maybe they're still at Mudslide Manor. But I doubt it.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Enbrethelil i do find it curious. why fiji. why not the wedding stuff why not anything else. it could be good tea or perhaps more happened there than we know. and the brf is signaling you want to play we can play let’s talk fiji. physical altercation with staff? drugs? bab bump left on the bed? sure the RR can dish a bunch and we are seeing new pictures that don’t show people pushing to get to her and we do see her looking disinterested. i still want to know why she wanted to avoid the UN women’s group. i just sense harkles and brf know something by more about fiji than we do.
Christine said…
Oh yes, they do not have much money. I am positive Harry will need to meet with Charles during this trip. And that should be interesting!

I'm still fascinated with Harry's 'job'. I wonder how that's going LOL. Life coaching for some company in Silicon Valley. I wonder how many hours he clocks in
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Enbrethiliel said...

There was a Twitter user who claimed to be a recovered narcissist and who was staunchly against Harry's wife. She gave the following illustration of how a narc's mind works: Many years ago, she had committed identity fraud in order to pay for cosmetic surgery . . . and when the woman whose identity she had stolen pressed charges, she was angry at the woman for inconveniencing her.
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You've nailed it ... geeze, if I shake my head any more, it's going to fall off. HOW do these ... people ... manage to insinuate themselves into the human race.

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