Let's continue the discussion...
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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I've been saying this since day before yesterday. Maybe DM needs to put me on their payroll.
Article says Spare (and TBW) will be a major threat to the monarchy as an institution. Well, who knew?...
https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all
I know polls are always iffy, but this same polling company had his formerly high ratings.
As for all of the appearances with the RF 6 & 6w are claiming will happen in the future, (christening, Trooping, Platinum Jubilee,) Camilla Tominey speculated in the Telegraph a couple of weeks ago, that the 6s' unpopularity might make the RF leery of public appearances with them. The 6s need to reverse their popularity plunge in the UK. As for the US, they're tiny stars in our celebrity universe, which changes with dizzying speed.
The UK tabloids mentioned that the Duke of Windsor wrote a very successful tell-all memoir, but, as we know, he remained a pariah, & had little contact with his family. His wife was exiled until her body was buried after her death.
Maybe #6w needs to unveil a beautiful little baby girl fairly quickly. I'm sure People or VF would love to do a spread.
Another thing that the #6s should consider is that if they hound poor Charles into an early grave, they'll have to deal with King William.
Have one or two on me 🍸🍹. Cheers!
You can bet that Harry’s book will have been heavily edited by Meghan to spew more of her thinly-disguised anger, outright hate, jealousy, and verbal sewage disguised as integrity, empathy, charity, and general goodness. It will be the opposite of who Meghan truly is and has always been and who Harry has become after she quickly snuffed out any decency and humanity that may have resided within Harry’s being.
The pre-Meghan Harry quickly ceased to exist after he met Meghan, who as a person with a probable case of narcissistic personality disorder, quickly and I must admit, masterfully gutted his personality to leave an empty shell, a puppet for her to manipulate, control and use as her mouthpiece.
DM comment: Due to their relationship playing out on the public stage, Meghan’s manipulation and poisonous behavior and its impact on Harry, the royal family, and, as the phrase says, a cast of thousands will be a case that will studied and analyzed by psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals and students. She is a prime example of why narcissistic personality disorder is so incredibly toxic for everyone whose life is affected by the narcissist and the tremendous irreparable damage and wreckage they leave in their polluted wake.
Of course, in law, all children born in wedlock are assumed to be the husband's children unless there is firm evidence otherwise. This is not unknown and I'm sure Nutties can think of another instance.
I wonder if it was the behaviour of former royal children from the wrong side of the blanket that lead to the informal sense of the word?
This gets better and better!
Prince Harry didn't feel he needed permission from Buckingham Palace to write his $20million Megxit memoir, his spokesman declared today. The decision to write a tell-all autobiography has been branded a 'moneymaking exercise at the expense of his blood family' by royal experts and insiders who predicted it would be 'a book by Harry, as written by Meghan.'
Exactly what we thought except for the first sentence.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9805467/A-book-Harry-written-Meghan-Royals-brace-20m-Megxit-memoir.html
Apologies if this has been posted but I didn't see it.
I think I'd say `a cast of millions', billions if you include the Commonwealth. (2.4 billion, according to Wikipedia)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806081/PIERS-MORGAN-Harrys-tell-memoirs-betrayal-far-Queen-royals.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline&ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK
There will also be behind the scenes extortion and blackmail as H/M offer to take out certain scenes and secrets for $$$. If Charles's mental state is not good, it is about to get worse. He was seduced and abandoned by Megs. He fell for her line of BS and wanted her in the BRF as a bi-racial asset to The Queen's Commonwealth organization. A biracial asset in general to the RF, to give them a modern image as GB changes racially too.
If only it would turn out that H isn't Charles's son after all... that he is a bastard in the original sense... Normally that wouldn't matter as much as it once did, except in matters of inheritance and the Line of Succession.
Of course, in law, all children born in wedlock are assumed to be the husband's children unless there is firm evidence otherwise. This is not unknown and I'm sure Nutties can think of another instance.
Diana had her issues and her multiple affairs, but one thing I never suspected her of was slipping in a cuckoo baby for the Royal spare only three years into her marriage. James Hewitt muddied the waters in his bid for attention back in the day by being coy about when he and Diana met, but I'm sure if we went back through Royal diaries and such, they would bear out that Diana did not meet James Hewitt until Harry was two. Mr. Hewitt had dark auburn hair, but with the preponderance of red hair on both sides of Harry's family tree, someone was bound to get it and it landed on Harry. I don't need a DNA test to convince me absolutely that Harry is Charles's. It was not necessarily apparent when he was a lot younger that he's Mountbatten through and through, but the older Harry and Charles both get, the more strongly they look like Philip. The facial bone structure, smile, eyes, even mannerisms is *so* Philip. Charles takes after his stockier Windsor side in his body type but in Harry we see the Duke of Edinburgh's ectomorphic frame. So very different than William, who embodies his mother's large-boned, athletic family. He got the male pattern baldness from the Windsors, lucky him.
I wonder if it was the behaviour of former royal children from the wrong side of the blanket that lead to the informal sense of the word?
Interesting thought. Maybe it's a chicken-and-egg question. Being continually demeaned as second-class (or worse) due to the circumstances of one's conception which one had no control over whatsoever would tend to lead to anger and self-esteem problems. I'm confident that Harry is not a bastard in the 'legal' sense of the word but he has certainly been acting like a right bastard in the more informal sense for most of his life. He seems to have felt that he has been treated as a bastard within his family due to his second position . . despite the fact that he and William shared just about all the perks and he did everything William did until William's marriage. Harry was in fact favored, coddled and overpraised for both his native abilities (low) and his position assigned at birth by everyone who knew him except maybe the Queen Mother. He was encouraged by Diana and others to regard himself as William's equal in rank and privilege. Once Wills married and produced heirs, suddenly Harry found himself demoted. He didn't take it well at all because that is why we are here.
Unfortunately, he's theirs and he's their eternal headache to deal with.
His tweet:- Excellent article (see below) by Richard Sanders, who directed ITV’s “Harry and William” documentary. In the show a fact-based quote of mine was removed by the network due to heavy pressure from the palace—despite there being supportive evidence/reports in the public domain.
The article of course is from Byline Times, who have nothing good to say about the Royal Family.
I wish William would sue the little rat!
I think Page Six since Harry complained about the photo they posted of Meghan and Archie (Archie's first day of school) isn't more so friendly with Harry. Of course, time will tell if I'm right
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Harry discussed how seeing the paparazzi photos of his son (which were taken back in April and published by Page Six)
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a36476796/prince-harry-upset-paparazzi-archie-first-day-school/
You may need a bucket for this one!
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/07/20/the-assassination-of-meghan-markle/
Yes, that's my position too. I've always dismissed the suggestion, so it's wishful thinking.
Would that the deus ex machina could descend from above with a calligraphic scroll for all to read, proclaiming the news that fresh information has come to light that Hewitt really is his dad and H should be grateful for the support he has received over the years- because there's no more coming. Furthermore, if he wants cash, he can do jobbing gardening, like his dad.
It'd be the opposite of those tales in which, at the last moment, it is revealed that the down-trodden hero of the piece is a long-lost firstborn, due to inherit riches beyond even Meghan's avaricious dreams.
"...The experience was bizarre. Perfectly liberal, enlightened, intelligent people would suddenly pass through a portal to the 1950s. Meghan was “conniving”, “manipulative” and “narcissistic”. No antediluvian misogynist trope was crude enough."
Did it not occur to Richard Sanders that there might be good reason why enlightened, intelligent people saw TBW in an entirely different light?
Page Six - "Harry Plotter" take a look, LOL
IMHO - they keep doing this as a form a blackmail: the RF will take them back and give them what they want to shut them up. Everyone wins. The problem is the burned bridges and the nuclear war that has already begun on the side of the Harkles.
They are so obviously trash...and this book will only prove this even more.#6W is obviously saving her "autobiography" for after the divorce.
`Prince Harry didn't feel he needed permission from Buckingham Palace to write his $20million Megxit memoir, his spokesman declared today.'
Well, we can all guess who the spokesman is. The article discusses the money.
From the comments:
Sir Wilfrid, Zurich, Switzerland, less than a minute ago
Migraine can't write and Hazwit can't read so it must be the Scooobster...
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Cotfordjohn, Taunton, United Kingdom, moments ago
I had heard that Harry's Wife,"me again" is a plant by certain people who want to destroy the British Monarchy. It looks like her tame lap-dog is performing as instructed.
$20 million is what they would pay Obama, not Harry, 6th in line to the British throne and falling rapidly in the line of succession and in the Queen's favour....
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That's what I think, too. They weren't expecting the book news to get out yet.
Story of their lives, haha. Megxit was the same thing.
Pretty devious to push for the Royal christening and then do the book later. Talk about the ultimate in backstabbing.
Also, I don't follow UK politics too closely except to know Yall have a bunch of nutters as do we. Would Parliament even vote for the removal of titles? I don't think they would touch it with a barge pole.
TBW = That bloody woman. (as supposedly uttered by PW)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806777/DAN-WOOTTON-reveals-growing-royal-fury-Harrys-tell-book.html
TBW is a quotation from Wm - it means 1That Bl**dy Woman - inert vowels of choice.
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Meanwhile, I' still looking for a readable version of Phil Dampier's comment in todays Express, as feature in his twitter a/c - and found this:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1465119/prince-harry-news-duke-of-Sussex-memoir-book-prince-Charles-fund-money-royal-family
Charles appears to want his money back.
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https://twitter.com/phildampier - item below The Cornwalls on Scilly
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And Angela Levin is pretty scathing about them too.
😳Typo due to manic autocorrect on last comment….it should have read its and not it’s !😫
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" Asked if he knew who made the initial remark, the author replies: "Pass."
He said he had just one source - and wouldn't write about it as it can't be verified.
However, he added: "At the time, the biggest conversation was, 'Did this come from a senior member of the Royal Family, a future head of state?'.
"If that individual is a head of state, then we as a public have a right to know, because of course that is someone that is our head of state, head of the Commonwealth.
Harry & Meg Archewell EXTORTIONATE/BLACKS v Reparations/Lilibet: ILLEGITIMATE? Pearl &PLAGIARISM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUh-SpgIUo0
I like your thinking. TBW certainly is a schemer and has to read Harry’s moods to maintain her control. I wonder when he finds out that the wife did leak the tell- all story to the media as well as setting up the “Archie goes to school” pap shot while he was in UK, if he will even care? Is he so lobotomized that he doesn’t see the imminent train wreck?
Even so, let's not forget there will be the other book coming out exposing the bullying as the true reason for the fallout AND the ongoing bullying investigation that the RF can choose to make public. Also, for all their whining, they lost 22 million and aren't the billionaires they clearly feel like they are and generated in their brief stint as working royals. This is more of the same vile attacks on Harry's family. They know they have to watch what they allege or they will be sued. The firm might not want to do this but things are reaching a point where the Queen, Charles or perhaps William will have to go on camera to defend themselves and expose these two.
It's time to stop blaming Prince Harry's actions on Meghan.
AMEN!!!!!
Since both will come to public in the same period (2022).
Note: I agree with you.
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Angela Levin.
Prince Harry 'wants revenge on William' expert claims: '
PRINCE HARRY'S decision to write a memoir has sparked claims he "wants revenge on Prince William" by royal biography Angela Levin.
Prince Harry is set to write a memoir. Angela accused the Duke of Sussex of wanting to get “revenge” on Prince William because his older brother is the heir to the throne.
He’s enjoying himself now, I think he feels strong and powerful.
Don’t forget he’s always been the spare to the heir and don’t forget he can’t do as well as William because William is going to be king.
“And I think he wants to get revenge and I’ve seen in the last few months he’s got a lot stronger, more demanding.
“When they were unveiling the statue of his late mother in Kensington Palace Gardens – he refused to come unless they agree to certain things that they didn’t necessarily want.”He feels he can get his own back. I’m sorry to say this because he was a lovely man when I spent over a year with him to write his biography but he’s really turned,” she continued.
It’s ludicrous to say, ‘I’m not going to write as a prince’ when he’s still itching to retain his royal titles.
“He wants to have his daughter baptised in Windsor when the Queen has time.So it’s not like fixing a date and letting her decide, it’s sort of a quiet bullying.”
Hikari - dna tests can be faked
Indeed they can. But when done correctly by reputable laboratories, they tend to be much more reliable than merely taking a mother's word for it, particularly if the mother in question is not of unimpeachable conduct. I always say that someone who has been rigorously faithful to his/her partner has nothing to worry about from the results of a DNA test. Though some of the more outlandish theories as to how TW might have somehow harvested 6's baby juice without his knowledge have provided me with a lot of entertainment. If someone was coerced/rendered unconscious by some means to have their gametes harvested or got duped by some disreputable clinic--horror stories abound about fertility doctors impregnating their trusting patients with their own sperm--the ultimate Narco ploy, I imagine--then a DNA test innocently undertaken might spring some nasty surprises.
That's why any DNA test should be conducted by a more than one facility and the results independently verified, particularly in sensitive cases--but when is DNA verification NOT sensitive? It rarely involves nothing but good news for *all* the parties concerned.
If the HAMS were to be required to submit DNA evidence as to the veracity of their status as Royal offspring of a legitimate marriage . . well, it goes without saying that the results of any lab contracted by the Harkles alone should not be trusted. How about the Harkles choose one, Buckingham Palace chooses another and representatives of the British government--the Home Secretary or Mr Johnson chooses a third lab. It'd be interesting, no, to see of all three results would match.
In the case of Harry's paternity, which has been whispered about in nasty tittle tattle since he was a small boy and his mother's special friendship with her riding instructor came to light . . the point I was making is that I don't need a DNA test to know that he's Charles's. We might wish it otherwise but Hazza as an adult is is the very spit of his late grandfather. Philip was better-looking by far but the genetics are unmistakable. Human eyes can lie too, of course but when PC, Haz and PP were sat together side-by-side the resemblance fairly blared out. The family would wish it otherwise now, perhaps. Certainly Philip deserved a better legacy than the ginger toerag d!psh*t who, it appears, will do anything for money. Haz is getting too old now and is too ugly to have a viable career as a rent boy but that's what he's turned himself into. A man-wh*re for sale to not even the highest bidder . . any pseudo-high profile company that will throw some cash at him. It is a blessing in some ways that PP departed us before he could be apprised of this latest travesty.
In general, parrots are pretty intelligent by the standards of the animal kingdom. Like cats, crows and octopuses, they are often thought to be at the level of a 3-year old child. One hears intriguing stories about exchanges with parrots where an apparently-logical brief interaction takes place.
I've known a bird to reply appropriately when I've had a few words with it but the best tale was about one protesting when its owner had to wrap it in cloth to hold it still for a vet's inspection:
`'Ere! What you doing to me?'
Then, when it was released, it declared `That's better!'
Whether the bird had any understanding of the words, or if it's pure mimicry, is debatable. Can the Turing test be applied in this case?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
We don't know what the state of H's brain may be. Has it been reduced to the capacity of that of a parrot, by the booze, drugs, manipulation or his own beliefs and conceptual framework? Has he got to the stage where he has no personal agency left?
To survive a narc, one has to rebel when one can still say `Nobody is going to do this to me' or `I will not allow this person to take my life away.' Possible M gave him so much validation about his view of William, that he got past the point of no return, having been richly rewarded by M reinforcing his opinions.
I honestly don't know to what extent he or Meghan is to blame. He doesn't seem to learned the difference between right and wrong when a child but whether that was the result of his inability to learn or a parental deficiency in teaching is questionable.
Now, I think a whole crowd of psychiatrists, lawyers and philosophers would be hard put to it to decide culpability in his case. Perhaps the M'Naghten Rule about determining criminal responsibility would help - it depends on whether he is diagnosed as being of unsound mind, that is, bad or mad? Or is completely in the throes of Stockholm Syndrome.
H may still have the edge over a parrot but we really can't tell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%27Naghten_rules
The way we've seen him accept her hand on his back, steering him around, or shoving him out of the way on official engagements, from very early on in the marriage (I can't immediately bring to mind any such incidents before the wedding but others may recall some) suggests to me that he already handed over all responsibility for his behaviour to her ie was prepared to be subservient.
There is plenty of evidence of them looking as if they've had a row - but it often seemed that H was still fuming while she looked as if she'd won.
Had she lost, we'd have seen the face-like-a-smacked-arse that she demonstrated on the balcony when he checked her for ignoring the National Anthem.
Just a thought about the announcement of the memoirs ... it is usual for the publishers to make an announcement when the deal is struck, even before the author starts writing (e.g. Obama). Why the long delay with H? Here's my theory ... lots of very unhelpful interference from wife from day 1 with regard to writing and signing the contract. Some intelligent person at Random House realizes early on that they will not get anything publishable from H without a ghost writer, so because of interference of wife and confused mental state of H, get the best ghost writer they can. Even then, the publisher is not sure until an acceptable draft manuscript is complete, because, the process of writing has been a nightmare. (The ghost writer is good so a year to publish a manuscript means it is problematic, even with the best ghost writer.)
I doubt that the publisher would agree to keep the publishing deal a secret for a year simply because H and wifey insisted on secrecy for no reason at all other that that they are out of control control freaks with an exaggerated sense of their own abilities and importance.
The publicity release indicates what kind of Harry is being presented in the book. By the time the book is published, the ridiculousness of it all is going to come back to haunt the publisher, I predict!
I have always maintained that she is a practitioner of NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) and the constant touching is used as both an ‘anchor’ and a ‘trigger’. The intense staring is another strong clue - ‘reading’ eye movements. It’s used a lot by so called ‘life coaches’ and executive coaching. I hate it, it’s dangerous and destructive in the wrong hands as the objective is to gain control of your client (or victim)
Google NLP touching/staring/techniques - I’m certain that it’s part of her control over H.
The way we've seen him accept her hand on his back, steering him around, or shoving him out of the way on official engagements, from very early on in the marriage (I can't immediately bring to mind any such incidents before the wedding but others may recall some) suggests to me that he already handed over all responsibility for his behaviour to her ie was prepared to be subservient.
Despite Harry's Pa's observation that his dimbulb secondborn was "c*ntstr*ck"--Chas knows much about this condition from personal experience--I remain agnostic that whatever allure M had for H is not sexual. If they hooked up at Soho House in Toronto in early days, that's as may be but we all know the legendary brevity of H's attention span. His tempestuous on-off seven-year romance with Chelsy Davy notwithstanding, he's not been known for fidelity to one bird for any significant length of time. Legend has it that he was captivated by Meg on Suits and asked for an introduction. Yeah, right. I think that was a bit of revisionist history. What I think happened is that with the nefarious aid of her flying monkeys Marcus and Scooby Doo and a few others in H's circle, M stalked H at the Soho House watering hole where she was a well-known fixture and, legend also has it, on MA's roster of 'local talent' he'd ring up to entertain single male guests, especially if they owned a yacht.
The stalker nabbed her prey one night or over a series of nights when the prey was likely completely off his ginger face. Or maybe the lure for Haz was actually of the nubile young man variety. I really rule nothing out. I suppose compromising photos/video/audio was taken, then and whenever H was next in Toronto for a bit of the down-n-dirty. Being very sheltered and more or less completely stupid, H was groomed by this malignant set to think they were his friends. Or, we could say that the ginger toerag had found his level amongst these grasping, money-hungry and morally bankrupt connivers. He just didn't realize that far from being their bosom mate, he was actually their patsy . . their Manchurian Candidate.
I don't absolve #6 from responsibility for his own actions, and he's in so deep now, up to his eyeballs, so gleefully complicit that I think he's a lost cause altogether. But these opportunistic vultures smelled the weakest link in the Windsor chain and moved in like the carnivorous predators they are. H's moral fiber was so lacking, his boundaries and sense of loyalty so weak, he was easy to control. I have no doubt this cabal, led by the Commandant M convinced him that ripping down the curtain on 'Royal scandals' and embracing the Wokeist agenda and forging a new life as a global megastar to eclipse his brother were all his own ideas. H is, I believe, incapable on a number of levels of actually having and carrying out schemes of this magnitude. His level of brainstorming consists of deciding which of his minions he's going to send out for 'gear' and Indian takeaway. He was putty in their hands . . but he's that dangerous of loose canons--the village idiot who thinks he's a brilliant and charismatic genius. His wife, too, but H really does operate at the basic level of 'imbecile', I think. As long as he's kept well-medicated with his dope of choice, he's malleable most of the time. When we see flashes of what we thought of as 'the old Haz' from time to time, those are the times I reckon that he was in a rare sober period, such as when he scolded her for the world to see on the balcony in 2019.
I think that H is mostly gone now. Over to the dark side he's always been flirting with.
Re TBW, that's partly my fault, that's what I've been calling her for the past few weeks. Apologies, I thought Nutties knew this acronym. For me it sums up the floozy pretty well, even better that it comes from William.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TSGEpF0Y88
'It's time to stop blaming Prince Harry's actions on Meghan.
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H really believed that he and his wife should be on the same level as William and Kate and they're not.'
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Personally, I think this shows the extent of the witch's work: manipulation, brainwashing etc and/or as @TheGrangle said, use of NLP. IMHO, there is absolutely no way Harry didn't know his place in the hierarchy of the BRF. This is unthinkable. He always knew William was above him in the hierarchy until the witch came on the scene. Similarly, he didn't know he was trapped until she told him. He certainly has his faults but none of this would have happened if the witch hadn't crossed his path/stalked him. Remember how 'the stars aligned' 🙄. Yes, they did because TBW told him. He is just very gullible and malleable and was no match against TBW's wiles. He just parrots her claptrap as if this is what he's always believed/his own ideas: the witch is that dangerous. Only Guantanamo deprogramming would work.
Being continually demeaned as second-class (or worse) due to the circumstances of one's conception which one had no control over whatsoever would tend to lead to anger and self-esteem problems . . . Harry was in fact favored, coddled and overpraised for both his native abilities (low) and his position assigned at birth by everyone who knew him except maybe the Queen Mother.
It seems that both being unfairly put down and being undeservedly puffed up can take their toll. Had Harry's place in the pecking order been very clear to him from the beginning, all this might have been averted.
But then we come back to nature vs. nurture, don't we? Had the circumstances of Harry's childhood been made as ideal as possible for him, would he be a better man today? Nobody knows the answer to this, though we all agree that nothing that happened to him could ever excuse the way he's choosing to behave now.
Whenever Harry's coddled youth comes up, I think of an uncle of mine. He was also the younger brother, and he had good reason to believe his older brother was favored over him. Despite not having his older brother's privileges, however, he was also spoiled in his own way. Basically, he never had to face the consequences of his own actions (or inaction). Well into his twenties, he was guaranteed a roof over his head, three meals a day, a car, an allowance from his mother, and his father's connections to the police to get him out of traffic or drug-related charges. He's in his late fifties now and a lot more respectable -- but that's because his wife, who had hoped he'd eventually shape up into a responsible husband and father, learned to keep him on a very short leash. Does he resent her as he'd once resented his parents? No -- but that's because she's better at making him think everything is his own idea.
I think that putting Harry in the military was a good "short leash" for him for a while. He still got into trouble and left bad impressions on people, but it provided the structure he needed to be halfway stable. Where the BRF possibly miscalculated was in treating Harry like an autonomous, accountable adult. Instead, they should have been like my uncle's wife, making sure he thought everything he agreed to do was his own idea. It's manipulative and sneaky, I know. But he would have been happy and wouldn't be attacking his family as he's doing today.
Granted, this isn't some golden formula. When you can't rely on someone's character and virtue, he's still a ticking time bomb. But I'm sure Harry's wife does a lot of this herself, and look how far she has come. She likely made him believe Megxit and Montecito were his own ideas.
IMHO, there is absolutely no way Harry didn't know his place in the hierarchy of the BRF. This is unthinkable. He always knew William was above him in the hierarchy until the witch came on the scene. Similarly, he didn't know he was trapped until she told him.
The YouTuber Shallon Lester has a great analysis of their relationship, which she first shared as early as the engagement interview days. She says that Harry's then-girlfriend was able to appeal to his "shadow self." That is, the self he always secretly believed he was, but which no one around him seemed to see. We all have a shadow self. (If you remember the best compliment you've ever received -- one that made you stop short and probably ask the person to repeat it, because hearing it just fed your soul -- then you know your own shadow self. And it's not necessarily something we keep hidden; we may be desperate for the world to acknowledge it, but the world never does.) Harry's shadow self was that he, not his brother, was the true "king" of the BRF.
So all his now-wife had to do was keep telling him that he was better than Prince William. That he was a true star, irrespective of his place in the hierarchy, and that all he needed to do to shine was to break away from it. That they would be bigger than the Cambridges -- but only if they could get out from under the shadow of the Cambridges.
Yes, it was all a pack of lies. And he let himself be manipulated, despite multiple warnings from family and friends, because he had a weak character.
So while I agree with @Este that Harry should be held as accountable as his wife is, it's very hard for me to see Harry as a mature adult who is capable of making his own decisions. His wife, who did have to struggle to get to where she is now, is more mature than he is in many ways. He's neither intelligent nor virtuous; even if she hadn't sunk her claws into him, he would have still needed some kind of handler to give structure and direction to his life. I guess the BRF thought that the military and a schedule of royal engagements would be enough, in which case they sorely underestimated how much he needed -- and still needs -- to be steered to do the right thing. He has no internal compass of his own; he will always need an external guiding hand.
Re: NLP (Neurolinguistic Programming)
I believe the Body Language Guy on YouTube said the same thing when analyzing one of the Harkles' appearances together.
This new book may be revenge for the bully investigation or just retaliate for grey rocking the Disastrous Duo and cutting off their funding. They were counting on that $$$ and royal appearances continuing since the beginning. We all know they are salty from having to pay their own bills and security.
I honestly don't know to what extent he or Meghan is to blame. He doesn't seem to learned the difference between right and wrong when a child but whether that was the result of his inability to learn or a parental deficiency in teaching is questionable.
You've put my thoughts into words more succinctly. For whatever reason (though it's too late to play the blame game), Harry hasn't developed into a mature, fully-functioning adult. He will always need a handler. I think the BRF underestimated how much he needed one and were blindsided when a C-list actress and D-list yachter stepped in to fill the vacuum.
Who is JR Moehringer, Prince Harry’s ‘super ghost writer’?
The award-winning journalist is driven by complex father-son relationships—readers should be salivating, the Palace should be very afraid
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Marianka Swain
20 July 2021 • 7:01pm
He has bared his soul to Oprah, bantered with James Corden and launched a celebrity-packed podcast. Now, Prince Harry is set to reveal all in print, announcing the publication of his “intimate and heartfelt memoir” in 2022 with Random House, which he is writing “not as the Prince I was born, but as the man I have become”.
The Duke has reportedly been given a $20m (£14m) advance – a figure some publishing sources suggest is excessive, but is dwarfed by the reputed $65m (£47m) the same publisher paid the Obamas for their joint memoirs – and said he would give “proceeds” to charity.
If we’re being literal, he isn’t solely writing the book, which has apparently been in development for the past year. Prince Harry has employed the award-winning journalist and author JR Moehringer, who has an impressive track record with ghost-writing candid yet canny autobiographies.
There were certainly softer options available, if the Prince just wanted to put out a toothless tome with some hazy empowerment messages (more in line with his wife’s vapid children’s book, The Bench). But working with Moehringer is a statement of intent: that this book may actually have something to say. Readers should be salivating. The Palace should be very afraid.
Indeed, the Royal family is unlikely to be given advance sight of the memoir, although the publisher will be required to show them any extracts that could be considered defamatory. Buckingham Palace aides have so far refused to comment. Although clearly shocked – staff were blindsided by the announcement and family members are only thought to have been told hours earlier – they insist they do not want to “fan the flames”.
JR Moehringer
JR Moehringer has ghost-written several memoirs and has a likely point of connection with Prince Harry CREDIT: www.bridgemanimages.com
Can the same be said for the Duke? Moehringer has spoken of the importance of candour when writing a memoir: “Of [those] I’ve read that have failed for me, often the reason they fail is that the writer has decided not to bare his or her soul,” he said in 2005. “You feel the writer is holding back. Part of the pleasure of reading a memoir is feeling that someone is confiding in you, that they are being honest.”
Born John Joseph Moehringer in New York City in 1964, as he recounts in his own memoir, The Tender Bar, he was always known as JR, short for junior – an awkward moniker since his DJ father abandoned him as a child. To fill that void, Moehringer devoted much of his early life to seeking replacement father figures, which led to him spending long hours in a local bar called Publicans with his Uncle Charlie and his drinking buddies.
That might sound morose, but Moehringer – a natural raconteur – spins those experiences into entertaining anecdotes, soon to become a Hollywood movie, produced and directed by George Clooney for Amazon. It stars Ben Affleck as Uncle Charlie and Tye Sheridan as Moehringer, and has now completed filming, so may well appear next year along with Prince Harry’s book.
But the story that brought him popular attention was for the Los Angeles Times Magazine in 1997 about a homeless man claiming to be boxing legend Bob “Bombardier” Satterfield. In 2007, the article was turned into a film, Resurrecting the Champ, starring Samuel L Jackson and with Josh Hartnett playing Moehringer.
Like The Tender Bar, it’s another tale exploring complex father-son relationships – a prevailing theme for the writer, and a likely point of connection with Prince Harry. The latter has already spoken about his difficult relationship with the Prince of Wales, and we can surely expect more of that in this tell-all memoir. It’s clearly still important to Moehringer, who last month retweeted a message on Father’s Day.
Wading through today's Father's Day contents made me think we ought to be grateful to the non-fathers who take up the role from time to time. Made me think, for example, of "The Tender Bar" and its company of barflies raising a kid.
— JDoyle (@OldHairbag) June 20, 2021
In 2009, he brought his talents to another format: ghost-writing celebrity autobiographies. Tennis great Andre Agassi had read The Tender Bar and asked Moehringer to collaborate with him on his memoir, Open. Rather than the usual inspirational tale of overcoming adversity and acquiring wisdom on the way to the top, the resulting book was a bracingly honest confession from a talented athlete who grew to hate his sport.
From one gulag to another, Agassi was then sent to Nick Bollettieri’s famous Florida tennis academy. It turned out ace players, including Jim Courier and Monica Seles, but at what cost? As Agassi writes: “The constant pressure, the cut-throat competition, the total lack of adult supervision – it slowly turns us into animals.” His response was self-destructive rebellion: drinking, setting fires in hotel rooms, throwing matches.
It was two surrogate father figures – yes, that theme again – who were his salvation: coach Brad Gilbert and trainer Gil Reyes. Still, Agassi’s struggles manifested in colourful ways, like his doomed marriage to Brooke Shields. The pair were mismatched in every respect, including height; Agassi wore lifts in his shoes at their wedding.
If Open is astonishingly candid, that is thanks to Moehringer, who read up on Freud and Jung in order to unlock Agassi’s psyche, and spent around 250 hours talking to his subject. The result is a book that grips not just sports fans but readers who couldn’t care less about tennis: it’s simply a great human story.
Moehringer also had success ghost-writing Shoe Dog in 2016, a memoir by Nike co-founder Phil Knight. This one walked a tricky tightrope: staying interesting while steering clear of the brand’s more incendiary controversies. Bill Gates praised it for relaying the messy reality of starting a business, and noted that the usually quiet, introverted Knight was unexpectedly frank in the book, admitting to happy accidents like landing the iconic ‘swoosh’ logo – he paid a graphic design student just $35, but wasn’t convinced about it – and the fact that he wanted Nike to be called Dimension Six. His employees overruled him.
That’s all very endearing. But Knight and Moehringer smoothly bypass accusations about Nike using sweatshops and child labour, or tax avoidance via offshore accounting. Shoe Dog gives us a cuddly version of the business behemoth, with just enough personal disclosure to mask the corporate strategy.
Moehringer will need to employ those PR-savvy tactics to Prince Harry’s memoir. As with all Archewell activities, it’s about creating the illusion of total transparency, but with carefully managed optics. That should be a breeze for the author, who has covered a wide variety of subjects in his career – from the solemn, like 9/11 and the Columbine school shooting, to juicy revelations from much-scrutinised celebrities who are looking to redefine their image.
Under normal circumstances, authors, including Moehringer himself, consult a raft of family and friends when penning their autobiographies. But these are hardly normal circumstances, and with relations between the British and Californian branches of the Royal family at an all-time low, the prospect of Prince Harry doing the same seems unlikely.
Since George Clooney is bringing Moehringer’s memoir to the screen, and the A-lister is also a friend of the Sussexes – he and Amal attended their wedding, and gave Meghan a lift back to America on their private jet after Archie’s baby shower – it has been claimed that he connected Moehringer and Prince Harry, although sources denied this was the case.
The recommendation may also have come from someone at Netflix: the Sussexes have a reported £100 million deal with the streaming service, and Netflix has optioned the film rights to Shoe Dog.
However it came about, it’s bad news for anyone hoping that the Royal rift will be repaired any time soon. Nothing is off the table, according to Prince Harry’s description of this “honest and captivating personal portrait” – not his childhood, public duties, military service or family life. That’s exactly the kind of outspokenness, with the Prince trumpeting his side of the story, that should horrify the Royal family.
But it’s great news for the rest of us. With Moehringer at the helm, this memoir should be teeming with headline-making scoops. As Agassi said of the explosive Open: “The truth is always surprising.”
'It's time to stop blaming Prince Harry's actions on Meghan.
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H really believed that he and his wife should be on the same level as William and Kate and they're not.'
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Personally, I think this shows the extent of the witch's work: manipulation, brainwashing etc and/or as @TheGrangle said, use of NLP. IMHO, there is absolutely no way Harry didn't know his place in the hierarchy of the BRF. This is unthinkable. He always knew William was above him in the hierarchy until the witch came on the scene.
In FF, he says something about only having a short time period to be productive/be part of the BRF scene before PW's kids start to step in. I always took that as he still knew where he fit in the hierarchy and that, like it is today, it would not be some instant in one day out the next with someone taking over your slots. And that was printed in 2020.
To the casual person, this is actually quite some years in the future before the kids took the full stage. Schools, uni, service? so no matter how you look at it, it would have been far off in the future before he would be overshadowed.
So he knew this much at that point.
So far, the Sussexes haven’t revealed much broadcasting or literary talent. The mass attention they crave only goes with royal revelations
Harry Mount
Prince Harry may not be the brightest spark but surely he can see how hypocritical his latest venture appears?
“I’m writing this not as the Prince I was born but as the man I have become,” Harry said, in the statement about his new autobiography… with the sign-off: “Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex”.
In that one sentence, he encapsulated what many have come to see as the spirit of Harry and Meghan: have your cake and eat it.
To recap, the Sussexes withdrew from royal duties and yet tried unsuccessfully to hold on to their Sussex Royal brand. Prince Harry attacked the press for invasion of his private life. Yet he felt comfortable enough to invite Oprah Winfrey into his backyard – and James Corden on a double-decker tour of LA – to give his side of the story, slanted – so it appeared – against the Royal Family. As the Daily Star claimed, on its front page at the time, “Publicity-shy couple to tell all to Oprah.”
The longer this goes on, many of us long to tell Harry, the more ridiculous it looks.
Even with the end of the Sussex Royal brand, Harry seems determined to persist with this idea that now he is his own man: a private self-made individual. But, it seems so obvious to everyone else, he would not be that man or have the success, coverage and money he’s got, without having been born a prince. Or, for that matter, still calling himself a prince – and the Duke of Sussex.
For example, it is clear that it is only as a prince that Harry secured the reputed $20m book deal with Penguin Random House. If he were plain Harry Smith – a Brit living in LA and working at a startup – he would be of no interest to the publishing world.
It’s hard not to conclude that the Sussexes seem to want all the trappings of royalty with none of the boring bits. Just look at the Oprah interview and how concerned the Duchess seemed to be with the lack of a princedom for Archie – not to mention her clear worry at their current lack of security, previously available while they were on royal duties.
It’s difficult not to wonder what Peter Cook would have made of them. In Not Only… But Also, his 1960s series with Dudley Moore, Cook parodied the famous recluse, Greta Garbo. Dressed up as Garbo, he took to the top of a double-decker and shouted at passers-by, through a megaphone, Garbo’s supposed catchphrase, “I want to be alone.”
The difference was Garbo wasn’t a hypocrite: she did want to be alone. She retired from films at the age of 35 and lived till 84 in near-complete seclusion.
Harry and Meghan could have done the same. If they’d retired to a life of quiet domesticity in LA – as many of us assumed they wanted at first – they’d have eventually slipped into obscurity, after the initial fuss died down.
Instead, the pair are barely off our screens, airwaves and now bookshelves. Hardly a week goes by without some new Sussex media venture being announced, from those megabucks deals with Netflix and Spotify to last weekend’s announcement of a family-focused cartoon series for Netflix, called Pearl.
The duchess, its executive producer, said: “Like many girls her age, our heroine Pearl is on a journey of self-discovery as she tries to overcome life’s daily challenges.”
Certainly, she must be hoping Pearl does a lot better than her children’s book, The Bench, which came out earlier this year – and struggled to sell in British bookshops.
In strict etiquette terms, that’s wrong. She can be the Duchess of Sussex or Meghan – but, as long as she’s married to Harry, she can’t be both.
Still, by using both names, Meg gets all the intimate friendliness she wants to signal to potential buyers, while retaining the status that goes with being a duchess.
The problem is that, so far, the Sussexes haven’t revealed much solid broadcasting or literary talent. The mass attention they crave only goes with royal revelations of the sort they poured out to Oprah Winfrey.
But, when it comes to royal gossip, the Sussexes are feeding off dwindling resources. Living in LA, thousands of miles from Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace, they are getting decreasing access to the heart of the royal action.
Harry is said to be keen to get back to Britain for a royal christening, attended by the Queen, for Lilibet Diana, his newborn daughter. That would make for a nice, uplifting last chapter in the autobiography – and perhaps be an ideal moment to close the book on the couple’s busy publicity schedule, too.
BREATHES there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
'This is my own, my native land!'
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd
As home his footsteps he hath turn'd
From wandering on a foreign strand?
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonour'd, and unsung.
Posted by a nuttie a few months ago but I think of this every time H&M vomit up more bile.
Any Nutties in the LA area? You can "get" NLP in this weekend training!---
https://www.thenlpexperience.com/los-angeles-nlp-course.asp
The Queen could withdraw Harry and Meghan's Platinum Jubilee invitation as insiders reveal growing Palace anger over the 'clearly deliberate' timing of duke's tell-all Megxit Memoir that threatens to eclipse her 70th anniversary year.
Extra snippet:
Prince Harry was facing anger from the royal households last night as his tell-all book threatens to take the shine off the Queen's historic Platinum Jubilee.
The duke's decision to bring out a memoir, which could deepen current rifts, in the same year his grandmother celebrates her landmark was branded 'deeply disrespectful'.
Royal sources told the Mail that inside Buckingham Palace and the other royal households, there was an increasing sense of anger and frustration – not just because he had chosen to write such a book, but also over the 'clearly deliberate' timing of its publication next autumn.
It could be 'the last straw' for Harry and his family, with relations already at breaking point, insiders said.
Having already been writing for a year, the prince is set to turn in a manuscript, which he promised will be a 'first-hand account of my life that's accurate and wholly truthful', by the end of this year. It is set to hit the shelves in 2022.
The Royal Family are fully focused on making the year a joyous occasion, when the Queen will become the first British monarch to celebrate 70 years on the throne, but now fear Harry, and any bombshell revelations, will overshadow it.
Some insiders were last night even predicting that the Queen's invitation for Harry, Meghan and their children to join the Royal Family on the balcony at Buckingham Palace to mark her milestone next June could be rescinded.
One said: 'Her Majesty has been at great pains to try to keep her relationship with her grandson and his family separate from the decisions she needs to make professionally, so to speak. And the invitation for them to join her next year was a genuine one.
'Although things have been very difficult, there was a small, but enduring hope that enough time would have elapsed for things to heal. But the feeling internally [now] is that this book will be the last straw.
'It's emerged that Harry has been secretly working on it for some time and he has made clear that he and his ghostwriter (journalist and novelist J R Moehringer) will leave no stone unturned.
'The suggestion he could even be seen with his family again in the future is looking increasingly implausible. A lot of people suspect this is the end of the road.'
The timing of the book is being seen as yet another snub to the royals after the Sussexes' explosive Oprah interview was filmed and broadcast while Prince Philip lay ill in hospital earlier this year.
Another source added: 'To bring out the book in the year of the Queen's Platinum Jubilee is being seen as deeply disrespectful. There will be a whole year of celebrations... yet it will now be characterised by a drip-feed of revelations, serialisations and, eventually, publication.
'It doesn't matter what reassurances he tries to give his family about what will be in it. The Oprah interview proved how hollow those words can be.'
@Maneki@Puds 🍸
Megnum Opus
Harry’s trite tome will be lacking a spine
Volumes of spite, and chapters on whine
A foolscap folie,
loosely bound in soft cover
Page after page praising megs,
and his mother
the other part of this with all of H's recent psychotherapy (not counting the counseling pre-wifey), i wonder if you have someone who could have helped plant "repressed memories"
I was wondering about this too, then my mind went to the old satanic panic stuff- imagine if Harry comes out saying his family really are reptilian baby blood drinkers or whatever. At this point I put nothing past him and his wife!
Seriously, I didn't think they were being sent out any time soon.
I think the best thing the BRF could do is to drop any "bombs" to get ahead of anything being released in the book.
Sort of like releasing any information someone is trying to blackmail you with makes it worthless.
Even if it means someone chooses to fall on their sword about some detail (rending it less pivotal in terms of damage) than having a similar story processed through the mind and voice of 6/6w.
I can think of a few things that would eclipse the queens Jubilee, worst case scenario being the death of her Majesty, may not be so. Or any other high profile death in the family. Or a major terrorist attack. Or a resurgence of Covid so severe that everything has to be locked down and canceled again. Trashy and peevish falsehoods Spewed in book form by the Queen’s Touched in the head druggie grandson and his avaricious tart are fairly far down on the list of things that could eclipse such a regally momentous occasion. H is pitching a toddler tantrum RIT large, but with so little follow through as he has evidenced so far for any other project, what are the chances that he’s going to see it through? His contracted ghost writer has A good reputation and quality work on his resume. It remains to be seen whether he really wants to be part of character assassination against A 95-year-old great grandmother who is beloved the world over. He may find having to be in such close proximity to the toxic two And attempt to fashion a coherent narrative out of Harry’s stoned bilge and Madam’s Summarily appointing herself co-author and editrix Might be more than he can bear, for any sum of money.
The family is in a pickle, and that I don’t deny, but they have weapons they haven’t even deployed yet. Let’s wait and see.
There’s always a fair chance that H Could OD before first draft is even finished.
Megnum Opus--Great!
I imagine that whoever gets the task of sub-editing `Harry's' manuscript will have a heck of a job sorting it out, whether it's some publisher's drudge or a respected `ghost'.
I hope they're being well-paid, assuming that it's all true.
Absolutely no need to apologise over TBW! 😁 I don’t get time to read all the comments so I must have missed your original comment about it. 😫
New Harry Markle up:
A Memoir Is Added To The Circus Of Vanities And Vampires
@Elsbeth1847
Just for clarification, you quoted Este in replying to her post but the third paragraph (in italics) is my reply to her, not what she wrote. That said, I do agree with you about H knowing where he fits in the hierarchy.
@Raspberry
I thought all British Nutties knew about William calling M TBW 😆
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Finally, well done to @Lil raindrop for the Walter Scott's poem and to @Magatha.
😁I’m failing miserably at being a representative British Nutty! 😂 I try and dodge the Duo stories…for my own sanity. 😀
I don't blame you, sadly there seems to be no end to their shenanigans so they're shoved in our faces almost daily at times 🤪
It's so tempting to wish them bad cess but safest to stick to the original 2nd verse of the National Anthem :
O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all
It could have been written with them in mind - and I feel I need saving from their knavish tricks as well, as I'm sure other Nutties do. Is it really still less than 4 years since she came to our attention?
Btw - Some time back, Wally was rightly incandescent about the Sugars appropriating that verse for their Kween - I wanted to reach for the sick bag when I read it.
The days are long gone when traitors could be trounced in battle or captured and executed in some grisly manner. We can only hope that the security services know what they're up to.
Where is the new Walsingham when we need him?
Y'all want to hear something simultaneously funny and sad? A year ago, I decided that my old eyesore rusty fridge had to go, and replaced it with a shiny new one. The old one was relegated to the back porch where it holds eggs and water for lawn mowing hydration breaks as well as grandkid cold juice and such.
When I returned from my weekly weekend visit with husband and very ill mother in law, the shiny new refrigerator had decided to die in air-conditioned comfort. The faithful 40-year-old eyesore on the back porch (that we could not get a replacement gasket for because it is too old) is keeping things icy cold in 95-degee Fahrenheit heat.
Reading all the shiny new things being promised re TBW and 6 puts me in mind of my new fridge. Shiny, new, but ultimately incapable of producing the results promised for cash tendered one year later.
Hopefully the people that purchased those two will not the same reaction as I did, which is to beat it with a baseball bat. (No, I didn't, but I really wanted to, but I have to find my paperwork first to check to see whether we opted for the extended warranty. Husband had to talk me away from using it for either batting practice or target practice.)
Yes, I agree:They don’t make ‘em like they used to. I also live in Florida and with the afternoon lightning showers,thus electrical spikes, check the breakers and any capacitors you can see on back. Do you use a surge protector on the new refrigerator?
I've been told by a well informed source that Harry's memoir will focus heavily on the death of his mother Princess Diana, and who he blames. It was a terrible tragedy but sad the man can't move on.
Camilla and Papa?
Another friend said HER fridge quit recently and she was advised to unplug it to let it thaw, then it worked again. But mine prefers not to work, even though I left it sitting unplugged overnight in the middle of the kitchen with the a/c off. Ungrateful wretch. Now it is serving as a navigational hazard. My mind says "Get that thang outta the way!" but my back says "Not so fast, Skippy!" Sigh. Time to cowboy up and just do it.
Did I mention that not one but THREE grandchildren are spending the week with me? I decided that I was NOT going to cook this week. Then I went through the McDonald's drive thru yesterday (the ONLY thing 3 kids could decide on) and promptly got inflation shock. I complained to son that 3 crappy takeout kids meals were $20! His reply was "Only $20? You got off easy!" Maybe. I never go to McDonald's so I was clueless about recent price increases. So, kids, what would you like for breakfast? "Pancakes! No, oatmeal! Sausage and grits! No, BACON! Do you have any shrimp? Pizza!" Oh, snap. Pray for me. Grandma's restaurant is now open. The ingredients are on the back porch. Cardio, right?
I think the $20 million is speculation again, like for Netflix and Spotify. $2 million would be more realistic, IMHO.
Thanks for agreeing that at least at that point in his life, his thinking was clear enough about where or who he was within the system. Not sure how many data points they have on him.
Hikari - if he were to OD, there is no doubt his grieving widow would find the internal strength to be able to pull the crumbs of stories told to her together to finish off the book (it's what he would want, n'est ce pas?)
Swamp Woman - grateful for you that you at least had the other one still around. I'm never that lucky.
I don’t buy the the so called $20 million deal and said as much in my first comment on this thread. 😀 Possible speculation but I’m guessing it was the figures put forward by the Duo again, we know how they love to throw out these numbers to show what a valuable commodity, and how popular and they are. 🙄
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A part of the text
"We’re told that Harry says he is not writing the book to deliberately hurt his family, including his brother Prince William and father Prince Charles, insisting that he has approached it as a way to reflect on his life and correct misinformation.
It is not part of a plan to leave his family behind once and for all, they say.
However, royal insiders see it rather differently, as one said: “On what planet does Harry think that this is not a ‘f–k you’ to the family?”
https://pagesix.com/2021/07/20/prince-harry-tell-all-not-meant-to-be-a-f-k-you-to-royal-family/
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"A rep for the Sussexes was unavailable for comment".
Note: Interesting! The sussexes don't want to comment now. But Sussexes "always" have a need to comment, speak, and have the last word.
No worries.
Re the (potential) grieving widow managing to finish the book, it shouldn't be a problem. H might be writing it, technically, but I bet the wife is dictating every word.
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Puds...online radar is reporting this. (If true, I don't know. But I wish it was. However, this is being debated with caution.)
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Prince William and The Palace Will Push Back Against Lies In Prince Harry’s Book, Determined To Take Control Of Narrative. "The family has been slow to conclude that Harry and Meghan are not going to stop. But now that conclusion has been reached they have been forced to change the way they handle the situation,” adds an insider. “Let’s just say that Harry and Meghan are not going to be allowed to totally control the narrative anymore. There will be push back like there has never been before.”
Palace sources are also hinting that this could involve legal action.
If the source who "told" them that is who we all know it is, then the book without a doubt targets Prince William and Prince Charles.
"A way to reflect on his life and correct misinformation" reads so much like TBW. She has been trying "to correct misinformation" since their pathetic manifesto in 2020, and "reflect on his life" must be the new "shine a light."
If Harry wants "to reflect on his life" without hurting anyone, he can buy a notebook and start a diary.
If I was Richard or Rebecca, I would start questioning and investigating this ' Palace source'.
What a trashy, undignified headline for Page Six. She has pulled them so far down into the gutter, it sounds exactly like something she would say.
This reminds me of the DM's headline: Harry and M***** want Lili*** to be christened at Windsor in front of the Queen -- with Duke making "intentions clear". You could tell that the copywriter was as fed up by their shenanigans as we are.
It wasn't very classy for the Page Six copywriter to drop an F bomb into this new title, but as you're right that it's exactly what she would say, it's also very likely a direct quote. One of the Harkles (presumably she-who-must-not-be-named) probably snapped at the latest Sunshine Sachs intern: "Tell those f****** that it's not a F*** You book, for f***'s sake!" And so both the intern and the Page Six writer did something worthy of Reddit's r/MaliciousCompliance sub, though NDAs mean they'd never be able to brag about it.
Prince Harry is putting the Queen in a 'difficult position' by expecting her to attend Lilibet's christening at Windsor after she missed Prince Louis' big day, royal expert claims
Duke and Duchess of Sussex reportedly want daughter christened in Windsor
Are apparently 'happy to wait until circumstances allow' to hold baptism there
Angela Levin described Harry's expectation that grandmother will attend as unreasonable, given she has missed other christenings in recent years
By HAYLEY RICHARDSON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 14:27, 21 July 2021 | UPDATED: 15:31, 21 July 2021
Prince Harry is putting the Queen in a 'difficult position' by expecting her to attend his daughter Lilibet's christening, a royal biographer has claimed.
According to royal insiders, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's daughter Lilibet Diana could follow in the footsteps of older brother Archie and be christened in St George's Chapel in Windsor - with the Queen present.
A source previously told the Daily Mail that Harry said the couple are 'happy to wait until circumstances allow' while in the UK to unveil a statue of Princess Diana.
But Angela Levin has described Harry's expectation that his grandmother will attend as unreasonable, given she has missed christenings of other royal children in recent years.
'That puts her in a very difficult position because she can't say that she is not free for years,' she told TalkRadio TV.
'She didn't go to Louis', the third child of Prince William and Kate. So it's not a spiteful thing.'
The monarch did not attend the christening of Harry and Meghan's son Archie, two, in 2019, reportedly because she had prior commitments.
According to Levin, the Queen sometimes isn't present at such events because 'they're not close enough to the Crown'.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's youngest child Prince Louis, three, is fifth-in-line to the throne, while Archie and Lilibet are seventh and eighth respectively.
Earlier this week royal expert Russell Myers warned it would be 'definitely awkward' if Harry and Meghan were to christen Lilibet in Windsor because tensions are still running 'very high within the family'.
'Meghan isn't flavour of the month with the family. Certainly, the family have always said they will be much-loved members of the family,' he told Today.
'However, we're still talking about the fallout of the Oprah Winfrey interview, Emmy or no Emmy nomination.
'The tensions are still running very, very high within the family, indeed.'
The reunion would come in the aftermath of Harry and Meghan Markle's explosive two-hour CBS interview with Oprah Winfrey which aired in March, where the royal made reference to his relationship with William amid reports the brothers had fallen out in the wake of Megxit.
Prince Harry told the talk show host: 'As I've said before, I love William to bits. He's my brother. 'We've been through hell together. I mean, we have a shared experience. But we're on different paths.
During the interview, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said racism drove them out of Britain and claimed their son Archie was denied the title of prince because he is mixed race.
Meghan also claimed that Kate Middleton left her in tears during a row over bridesmaid dresses and Prince Harry accused his father Prince Charles of refusing to take his calls when the pair moved to the US last year.
Myers went on to suggest that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex reportedly wanting to give Lilibet Diana a royal christening shows an attempt from the royal couple to keep their royal connection.
'Looking at the details, it looks as though they do want some continuity for their family life,' he said.
'Of course, their son Archie was christened at Windsor Castle before they jetted off to set up their new life in the United States.
'However, when you're looking at it as well, what do Harry and Meghan have at the moment?
'They definitely want to keep their royal connection and this will be a sure-fire way to make sure everyone is talking about them in the royal way.'
I see it as aimed at putting HM on the spot, ie manipulation, and I hope it's seen as such.
I rather think H's brain occupies a minute part of a parallel universe somewhere millions of light years away from where the rest of us live, beyond any concept we have of time and space. (sorry if my estimate of distance is wrong - my grasp of cosmology is tenuous, but I'm sure you get the idea.
$20 Million for a book advance? Who says? H&M? Hyperbole.
The invitation to the Platinum Jubilee has been rescinded? Not possible. Invitations go out six weeks in advance of a Royal Family event, according to Lady Colin Campbell.
Prince William's @EarthshotPrize is releasing a book and he wrote the introduction. EARTHSHOT: HOW TO SAVE OUR PLANET will be published in the UK, Europe and across the Commonwealth on September 30, 2021 and in North America on October 5, 2021. https: // google.co.uk/amp/s /www.town
I don't think Harry could ever "put the Queen in a difficult position," though I'm sure he fancies that's what he's doing. It's like a kindergartener threatening to hold his breath until he passes out because he wasn't given a cookie.
Again, the tone of the article is curious. While not as openly fed up as the previous "Harry and M***** want" article (because the DM writer got a stern talking to for it?), neither does it present them in a flattering light. They sound extremely passive-aggressive. This would get a YTA from the AITA crowd -- and the Y would be the Harkles.
I've learned to tread lightly over the years when parents delay baptism for their children. Asking them why they "waited so long" always comes off as judgmental -- and unless one is their pastor, the answer is really none of one's business. But I think I can afford to be judgy here. If one truly believes in baptism as a sacrament of initiation into the Body of Christ, then "happily" delaying it "until circumstances allow" is the most unchristian thing you could do to your own child. Some people who fear an infant is in danger of death will baptize him or her over the kitchen sink or in the bathroom. School children used to be taught the formula of baptism so that they could do it themselves, in case of an emergency. Some hospitals had a tool in delivery rooms that could be inserted into the birth canal to baptize an unborn child, if the mother had difficulty with the labor and they worried the child might die in utero. Generations of Christians created a culture where circumstances almost always allowed for the baptism of an infant. And now these two upstarts can't drive a few minutes to a local church.
And for what? For a photo op? For the chance to say that others are fault for them not doing what is perfectly in their power to do?
They're putting off an essential for the sake of the most unreasonable non-essential there is. The validity of the sacrament has nothing to do with who happens to be in attendance when it takes place. Only the validity of the Harkles' stories does.
Prince William's @EarthshotPrize is releasing a book and he wrote the introduction. EARTHSHOT: HOW TO SAVE OUR PLANET will be published in the UK, Europe and across the Commonwealth on September 30, 2021 and in North America on October 5, 2021.
Not that the BRF should let the Harkles determine anything about their schedules, but . . .
Wouldn't it be juicy if Prince William's book and Harry's book came out at the same time and the former outperformed the latter the way Hold Still wiped the floor with The Bench?
Your list of the ways the Harkles have publicly insulted Her Majesty is the essential context that's missing from the Baby$2 christening nothingburger.
The Harkles definitely want it to look as if the Queen is pretending to be too busy to see her newest great-grandchild -- implying that she'd keep it up for years, however implausible it may be, because she's so racist or whatever. They're making her out to be passive-aggressive in her dealings with them, when they're the ones being passive-aggressive with her. Blatant narc projection!
But the reality is that there are good reasons why she wouldn't want to be around people who have behaved as they have. You don't have to be an expert in royal protocol to understand them. You just have to be an empathetic human being.
… with the sign-off: “Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex”.
LOL @ the amazing contradiction!
Is this book even real? Everytime I see them use their titles, I wince. Not so much H as he is Prince but it is really ridiculous now that they live in US.
Maybe he will drop title when "Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex” doesn't fit on book spine 🤪🤪
PC and HM have had difficulty with grasping the reality of how low 6 could go, wanting to give him another chance, general unwillingness to really rip off that bandage so it was suggested that they give him some disinformation (PE will not get the DoE title) and see if it appears.
It appeared as a schadenfreude move and this now leads to the comment about how there will now be response and loss of control by 6/6w. the final straw
This would loop in the theory about PW being restrained from assuming control earlier and testing people around him.
I see this as the gloves starting to come off in the lead up the release of the book. Why isn't this in the book? Or that? They are now on the defense of the book and their truth.
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Wow! British tabloids.
The Daily Star
Prince Harry might be writing a fairytale, but there'll be no happy ending’
EXCLUSIVE: Daily Star columnist
"Once upon a time, lived a British Prince who fled his palace and family to lead a life of privacy with an American actress.
Little did he know, the actress was secretly a witch who casted a spell on the poor Prince. Now, he’s become a puppet under her control.
The Prince did everything he could to break the curse, even his family back in Britain tried their best, alas their powers were of no match to the wicked witch’s strength.
But, will they live happily ever after? We’re yet to find out"
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Cover of the issue
https://www.todayspapers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Daily-Star-16.jpg
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Hugs❤️
But I'd be on cloud nine if the Queen took the trouble to attend the christening of Princess Beatrice's baby later this year.
Haha, just kidding. I take it back. What the Harkles want even more than a Windsor photo op is "evidence" for their narrative that the Queen is racist. No matter what the Queen does, they'll manage to twist it. But staying above the fray rather than playing their game is still the best possible strategy. As long as it's coupled with letting William the Enforcer do as he pleases.
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They're putting off an essential for the sake of the most unreasonable non-essential there is.
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Precisely.
snarkyatherbest said…
the other part of this with all of H's recent psychotherapy (not counting the counseling pre-wifey), i wonder if you have someone who could have helped plant "repressed memories"
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I've been wondering about the same thing.
Harry before MM was already an unbridled horse. I love the royal family. But in light of deep analysis Harry has always shown erratic behavior with or without MM.
...
THROWBACK from 2002
Spoilt brat Harry: The truth no one will admit'
16 Jan 2002 .
"Undeniably, Prince Charles is a caring father, but he hasn't emerged as either a sensible or a very dutiful one. He seems more concerned with protecting Harry than censuring him. However, there comes a time in any teenager's life when parents need the courage to be angry. They should never confuse indulgence with love.
The tragedy is that Harry may well feel he's got away with things and that when the current furore blows over he will revert to his dangerous, seedy lifestyle'"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94973/Spoilt-brat-Harry-The-truth-admit.html
Thank you for sharing the hilarious cover from the DailyStar. Love it. I love that Brits will see this visual waiting in the checkout line and will easily remember their emotions when Harry’s book comes out in over a year.
I also agree about the wrong priority over the baptism.
Ignoring the opportunity to have the child baptised as Anglican in the US remind me of UK couples who don't get married `because they can't afford a wedding' and then make no provision in their wills for each other or any children in case of the death of one partner.
They have only to book an appointment with the Registrar and produce 2 people who will stand witness, even if they have to ask 2 strangers outside the Register Office for half an hour of their time, to get the full protection of the law in matters of rights and inheritance.
The costs are neglible compared to the full-scale production number they think is mandatory - the Registrar's fees and a small financial consideration for the witnesses to buy themselves some refreshment with which to drink the health of the happy couple.
What's more important - protecting your partner in the event of your death or the presents you'd otherwise expect?
Still what else would we expect of the Harkles? Much as we like to think we got them taped ages back, we are still left gobsmacked at the depths to which they descend - and we're people who already know how narcissists behave - `Cognitive Dissonances R Us'.
Small wonder the Royals misjudged it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/nitk48/6_hours_ago_we_were_speculating_on_the_future_of/gz52m2j/
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SO and I had to get a new sofa, pug and all, and wow. Everything decent is 9 months out. Good thing we are in NC and know some peeps in the business. If you think you will need to upgrade, do it now. It's cray out there.
yes, full frontal of Hunter Biden, naked in all his glory yesterday in the last item as a comment. It was quickly taken down but CDAN is now unfindable online.
I don't think Harry could ever "put the Queen in a difficult position," though I'm sure he fancies that's what he's doing. It's like a kindergartener threatening to hold his breath until he passes out because he wasn't given a cookie.
I meant to tell you before, but this post wins the Latte of the Day! Yes, that's exactly how he is behaving. When a 5-year-old behaves thusly, does his mom fret that she is going to be "Eclipsed"--that he could actually expire and she be thrown into jail for child abuse? Doubtful. If he manages to knock himself out, his body will insist on breathing on its own.
Likewise the RF will carry on and have the Jubilee for HM, pending her continued good health of course.
He's George the Eighth! Adorable future king sports £10 John Lewis polo shirt as he poses on a Landrover Defender in a sweet tribute to Prince Philip in new birthday photo taken by Kate Middleton.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9811275/Prince-George-sports-10-John-Lewis-shirt-poses-Landrover-Defender-tribute-Philip.html
I was looking at the photos and saw your post. A lovely, natural photo showing a very happy child. No need for arty farty b&w pix. The photos of the children reflect the parents' attitude: normal, natural and happy on the one hand and pretentious, artificial, simpering (M) or glum (H) on the other hand.
Great minds! I just saw George’s eighth birthday photo.
Since he was very small, I have always thought that George favored his grandpa Middleton, with whom he seems to share a special bond. Like Aunt Pippa, He’s got Michael’s brown eyes, Making him, I believe, the only royal family member to have brown eyes. I mean the real blood royals, not the yacht girl from Montecito who grifted her way in. But George’s eyes have also had an old soul quality shared by his dad, and now that most of his big teeth come in, I definitely see William’s smile emerging.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1465896/prince-george-birthday-photo-pictures-latest-eight-kate-middleton-william-prince-philip/amp
Behold GB’s sovereign for the 22nd century!
Lilabet$ - crickets
@WildBoar@DesignDoctor- Cheers
Apologies to Miss Muffet
Little Miss Muffed-it
Little Miss Fucket
and her ginger thatched muppet
Scheme and plot all day
Her latest, ghost-writer
will come back to bite her
As the Queen, Will, have the last say
Harry´s Wife : Part 67.3 - Baptism of Bling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfgjvVXMm44
It's an alternative view - how he thinks they might do it in Montecito.
They probably thinks they'll be able to repeat it in UK sometime - tough!
Baptism is once-and-for-all; if it's according to the rules of ECUSA, no Anglican priest anywhere else would do it again.
"Baptism is once-and-for-all; if it's according to the rules of ECUSA, no Anglican priest anywhere else would do it again."
Agree. And I agree that "waiting happily" to baptise a baby sometime later is bizarre if one actually believes in infant baptism. (Not all Protestants do. I was raised in a church that doesn't---Baptist. But once it's done there by the baptised person's free choice, it's for keeps too.) But M expected the world to think Anglican priests will repeat marriage rites willy-nilly for different audiences so who knows what she thinks about baptism.
Keep biting the hand that feeds you petty little cunt. I used to like this guy and thought he and his brother would be a breath of fresh air for the BRF. Just another spoilt rich kid who go told no. Fuck off you and that attention whore wife of yours.
the funny thing is, people there used to be sympathetic to the 6's about this time last year
https://dlisted.com/2021/07/20/prince-harry-is-writing-his-memoirs-and-its-reportedly-got-the-royal-family-shook/
We have always had some difficulty about coming up with a motive for 6w's why (or who may/may not be) backing her.
I saw this and what really caught my eye is about looking at motivation. Maybe this might is a real part of the driving force in response to being told something she didn't want to hear like the word No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE
He's the 2nd son, he was always meant to fuck off. Why won't he fuck off
He’s the most entitled person on this planet
He’s a jealous little shit who’s trying to burn it all down before his brother can get it.
Like I said, they were all pro-6's last year over there.
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People magazine spoke in an article that Harry had already told PC about his desire to write a book a few years ago.
Today Buckingham Palace responded to People and now I can't find that article anymore. If anyone has, please post the link.
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People: Prince Harry Told the Palace About His Memoir — but Would Not Have Expected to Need Permission
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BP
"Prince Harry spoke privately with the royal family regarding the book's publication very recently, a spokesperson told PEOPLE.
The spokesperson added that Harry would not be expected to obtain permission from Buckingham Palace for the project.
Buckingham Palace declined to comment, telling PEOPLE: "Any clarification about the book would be a question for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex."
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-spoke-privately-with-royal-family-about-memoir/
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/578702
"...Active petition to parliament to remove all non-working royals from the LOS...."
Thanks for the info. Good to know.
But that idea as described makes absolutely no sense to me.
IF one has to be a working royal to be in the LOS, what happens if there's a catastrophe? A successful terrorist attack? An unexpected series of deaths or abdications? Does the UK cease to be a constitutional monarchy and become a republic by default? And if the only way to stay in the LOS is to be supported by the taxpayers forever, why is that a good idea?
What am I missing here?
SO and I had to get a new sofa, pug and all, and wow. Everything decent is 9 months out. Good thing we are in NC and know some peeps in the business. If you think you will need to upgrade, do it now. It's cray out there.
@Portcitylass: I heard on the news earlier this week that there is a shortage of foam and that all of the major foam manufacturing facilities, which are located in the southern US were damaged in various storms and the big freeze that hit Texas during the wintet, so they atevtrying to catch up. The furniture, auto, and aircraft manufacturers have been hit hard by this shortage.
Tom Markle Jnr just landed in Sydney (DM)
Quarantining ahead of his appearance on
“Big Brother VIP” alongside Caitlyn Jenner.
Ooooh, could be interesting tea??
I never watch this prog, but I might now!!
@Karla
Yes, he has a look of Charles Spencer,
also, dare I say it, great x3, uncle David?
Beautiful boy, Happy Birthday
Gorgeous George
I’ve put the kettle on 🫖
Night, night karla 😘
While I agree not everyone in the LoS might want to serve, when would these decisions be made? If made at 18, Will very well might have decided to step out. He wasn't exactly anxious to take on royal duties and has only been a full-time working royal for about 4 years. With these new rules, would he have not been in the LoS when not FT?
And even if Will did not choose to step out, the idea of a hereditary monarchy based only on pre-selected "volunteers" seems very odd to me.
In the US there is a legal maxim, "Hard cases make bad law." I think that applies here. Upending a thousand year old monarchy and its rules just so H&M can't get near the throne or even appear to be near it seems quite unwise. Yes, they are awful. But some of the changes contemplated simply to publicly block them are more of a threat to the continued existance of a monarchy than they are.
Certainly if one looks over history, there's nothing to say that a 5-year residency in the UK is needed to be an effective monarch. Or the idea that one must have made a conscious decision to be a working royal-- one could argue that it's likely George VI would have ruled himself out.
"For the time being we have to hope the Cambs don't travel together.,"
I agree it would be good if they stopped doing that but they haven't. And I'm not at all sure they will. (I think Will is stubborn.) And the old prohibition about traveling together applied only to air travel. And that's when it was more risky. But car accidents do happen. And the family travels together by car all the time.
I'm not going to agree with upending everything simply because of H&M. Had those rules been in effect in the past, it wouldn't have been good. And the logic escapes me re: when and how LOS decisions would be finalized. Obviously children can't vote themselves in or out. And how do you address Will's lack of FT royal work until recently? Would Harry have been in his place in the LoS? Or Andrew? Just doesn't make sense. Or if it does (the picking and choosing) then a hereditary system makes even less sense. Have elections!
@Puds
Looks like we could have a book,
and a film, to look forward to next year 🥺
Just in time to commemorate
25th anniversary of Diana’s passing.
Popcorn will be stale by August 2022!!
@Magatha
Your nursery rhyme has inspired me so here is - I'm no competition so don't worry 😆
Megsy, Megsy, quite contrary
How does your money grow
With shady deals and deception
And trickery four years ago
Thank you so much for the info re the Parliament petition. Well done for finding it. I've just signed it.
Here is the link but it's for British citizens or residents (you need to give your postcode although in theory anyone could use any postcode)
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/578702
Sorry, I've done it again!🤦 I'm catching up and saw Puds' post and she couldn't link it. I did look to see if anyone had posted a link and missed your post. Not wide awake...
Maneki 🥰
Maneki Neko
I love how you flow
You’ve got madam down to a T
In less than four years
She’s brought us to tears
Tears of laughter at her
Royal Wee
The Latte of the Day prize! What an honor! I hope a chai tea latte is okay.
Remove all royals who have ever ceased to be active, working members of the royal family from the line of succession. This will ensure only those royal family members who have demonstrated true commitment to proudly serving the nation be allowed to sit on the Throne, thus preserving its dignity.
To preserve the integrity of the Crown, only those who demonstrate willingness to serve the nation, placing the countries interests above their own deserve such an honour as the Crown. Family members who place their personal lives ahead of nation service will fail to earn the respect and affection of the British people and risks their personal activities becoming a source of deep political embarrassment to the country. The Monarchy isn't a soap opera nor should it ever be allowed to become one.
Subtle shade...
Thanks 😁
Since he was very small, I have always thought that George favored his grandpa Middleton, with whom he seems to share a special bond. Like Aunt Pippa, He’s got Michael’s brown eyes, Making him, I believe, the only royal family member to have brown eyes. I mean the real blood royals, not the yacht girl from Montecito who grifted her way in. But George’s eyes have also had an old soul quality shared by his dad, and now that most of his big teeth come in, I definitely see William’s smile emerging.
I think Prince George looks a little like Earl Spencer. But I agree with the "old soul" quality of his eyes. Next to Charlotte, with her more elfish, piercing eyes, he definitely comes off as shy. Some people have seen that quality and worry that he'd be too "soft" to be a proper monarch. I think they underestimate him. His father is the new Iron Duke and his mother is a steel cupcake.
Anyway, I love the photo, too. He looks healthy and happy.
Someone on Instagram pointed out that George is sitting on a Land Rover Defender, which was one of Prince Philip's favorite cars. A lovely, subtle touch!
Tom-Tom Drums
I’m hoping young Thomas Markle
Spills some tea on his sis,
madam sparkle
We may even get juice on her mother
Bring it on, can’t wait for
Big Brother
The LoS is just something that exists, like a maths equation. We might change some of the values in it (e.g., no Catholics qualify), but we can't really shorten it to, say, only twenty people. If, as @Lizzie has pointed out, an unfortunate event happens that wipes out the entire BRF as we know it, we will still be able to trace the family trees to find out whose uneasy head should wear the crown.
It would make more sense to limit the number of senior royals or the people who get the fancier titles and styles. Or for people who break the rules to be removed, while the rest of the line continues to exist placidly without them.
If the petitioners get their wish, I guess this will bump Princess Beatrice up to #6?
@Enbrethiliel
Prince Philips hearse was his beloved
Land Rover Defender, very poignant.
I think Catherine is the new Queen Mary,
resolute and steel backed.
We have always had some difficulty about coming up with a motive for 6w's why (or who may/may not be) backing her.
I saw this and what really caught my eye is about looking at motivation. Maybe this might is a real part of the driving force in response to being told something she didn't want to hear like the word No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE:
Wow! It's an explanation that cuts through all the hypothesising at a stroke - it's certainly true of the narcs I've known, whose behaviour seems to operate against all their best interests.
Given the choice of behaving lovingly, with consideration & cooperation in a context which would reward them with love, respect, emotional and material support, they are impelled to choose the opposite, creating chaos, even when to others it seems counterproductive.
They bait and provoke until they get a reaction which, to their way of thinking, justifies rage and retribution.
Is there some bit of wiring in the brain that sees the `sensible' approach as a threat? If they allow others to be in charge/ the centre of attention, does it destroy them within?
Or are they addicted to getting off on the adrenalin surge? Does it light up the addiction centres in the brain? Is it better than any orgasm they can possibly imagine - so worth the resultant damage to themselves?
The below link might be the Lady C video that goes into detail re LoS. 🥴
https://youtu.be/4dWkYSDreb0
If that’s the case WildBoar
Megs is enjoying multiple orgasms hourly..
No wonder she can’t walk straight/unaided!!
Would also explain her permanent smirk😉
Telegraph reports that JR stood up to Netflix over attempt in The Crown to rewrite history and suggest there were anti- monarchy riots - there weren't:
The Crown wanted scenes of bottles being thrown at the Queen, John Lydon tells Sex Pistols court case,
Former frontman said he refused to allow God Save the Queen to be used in the Netflix drama after learning how it was to be used
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/21/crown-wanted-lie-queen-protests-john-lydon-tells-sex-pistols/
Tells us everything we need to know about Netflix.
“Never mind the bollocks” Netflix
Thank you Johnny Rotten
God Save the Queen
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Puds, thanks for the explanation. All we kept hearing was production is slow due to Covid.
Johnny Rotten, leader of 80’s
punk band ‘Sex Pistols’
was an anarchist.
Now refusing Netflix use of his
controversial song:
“God Save the Queen”
Says it all, good will overcome.