The Sussex camp has been quiet since Princess Diana's Statue Unveiling but I don't think we can expect that to continue. Is there anything left to keep them in the limelight? Let's discuss...
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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"@Jocyelyn, I feel for you. I also am partially vision impaired. Reading is getting harder for me as well so I delete and edit my posts often.
I too worry about the day I can't read a favorite book. I know at some point I will have a system where I will have audio books.:
I want evryone know who may be visially impaired or like me, manually impaired (due to arthritis) to hold a book that there is a completely free way to get audio books, magazines etc... the Library of Congress has in its inventory through its 'Talking Books' and BARD programs. Each state usually has a library source but here is a way to start (888-657-7323) and www.loc.gov/nls and select 'Find your library' One can find their hundreds of thousands of offerings by choosing Select 'catalog Search' on the website.
I for one, have a player that was sent to me (free) and chose selctions whereby librarians/volunteers record your multiple selections on tape. The BARD system uses your phone (apps can be found free on GooglePlay, AppStore, etc...
Every two months the Library of Congress publishes a magazine ;'Talking Book Topics' that features some of the newest book selections, with descriptions, author names, playing times etc..
I take my player along in my vehicle when I drive and so I can enjoy listening to a book I might otherwise not pick up at home as frequently as I like (due to dstractions, like lol, Nutty's blog). I have even listened to cookbooks this way and tried out publications I may not have considered before (so it has sparked my literacy difinitely)..
This service is even available to American citizens living overseas. Sorry to Nutties who might not qualify. :( *But it has been a godsend to me.
Everyone is different with the vaccine and effects after. Take Tylenol ONLY if you need it, (do not pre-dose, as it affects the way the body reacts to the vaccine) and drink water (hydrate - you should be doing that anyway). Thank you all who are vaccinated or vaccinatin. You are protecting people like me - a kidney transplant 4+ years - who took the vaccine and it may not have worked due to my immunosuppressive drugs. Myself and spouse did fine with both doses. My adult childen and their spouses did fine. My grandson #2 DID have COVID-19, which was confirmed by the test that is accurate (not the rapid test with the false positives)(He was infected by his kgn teacher's adie, who was positive) It is a miralce that no one caught it (my daughter was tested twice and was negative both times). It is out there folks. Cyber hugs to you, Miggy.
Chairman Mao and Casanova librarians? What a hoot. Guess it takes all kinds :)
I saw alot of hanky panky up in the stacks as a college student. That was the place for make out sessions lol. Lots of pervs as well. Eww...Library books are very unsanitary. I sanitize everyone I touch- even before Covid.
@Jocelyn,
Thank you so much for the info on programs for the sight impaired. Very helpful!
I now have new screen name of 'UKfan' but I am formerly 'CatEyes' . Accidentally logged out of google and couldn't get back into my acct (lost password/old ph#, etc...couldn't get back in as 'CatEyes' alas!
I don't want to mislead anyone (since some might think it is deceptive I have a new screen name).
If you’ve forgotten your password all you need to do is where you’d login to your Google account (associated with that screen name), is hit the forgotten password link under where you’d enter your password and you’ll get an email sent to you to reset it. 🤗
I heard about Harry Roper-Curzon's marriage about two weeks ago, thanks to ScorpioTwentythree on Tumblr. The parallels are uncanny, aren't they?
My favorite part is this quote: "I must have been a mug. I thought she was a good person. I feel completely and utterly duped. I found it embarrassing when she would go on about herself and talk about money. I put that down to her being Californian." (Haha)
Whoever is advising this Harry on PR has obviously advised him to play the "I was fooled" card. Which may be incredibly embarrassing for him, but at least sounds like the truth. It must be humiliating that he was taken in by a grifter, but because he got out early, credits his family for giving him good advice, and is being forthright about his role in the mess, people are eventually going to forgive him and trust that he came out of the experience wiser man.
Is this a template for Prince Harry to follow? He must know that has a way out. He only has to choose to take it.
Hello and welcome back!
Thank you! I will try it but when i did it before it prevented me because my phone number changed (Google wanted to send text to phone) and my old email was wrong). So here's goes....
@LavederLady
Thank you!
I'm still on the fence about the existence of Baby$2. (We really should have seen an ankle or an elbow by now. Even a plastic one.) And if the Palace ever calls the Harkles' bluff by releasing an updated line of succession with Prince Andrew still in the eighth spot, Harry and his wife can say it was because they had privately informed his family that their second child would be a Scientologist. (The wife might have preferred Catholic, for a more definite middle finger, but given the bad PR the Church is getting in Canada, even she won't be dumb enough to risk it.)
Renouncing a title for Baby$2 will also fit the wife's story that she only wanted the title for her firstborn because it would guarantee security. Now that the Harkles are independent and paying for their own security, they don't need such frippery, do they?
Historically in England, only Anglicans `mattered'. Others may not have owed allegiance to Rome but it doesn't mean they weren't regarded as subversive. They were subjected to `disabilities' from 1660 until well into the 19thC, whether they were Quakers, Baptists, Independent or Calvinists, to name but a few.
Like Catholics, they could not go to either of our universities, so could not enter the professions. They developed the economy in other directions. Quakers, for example, were active in banking (the Gurneys) chocolate (Fry, Cadbury and Rowntree), also in social reform. The Clarks made shoes.
Given the events of the 17C, Calvinists too were particularly suspect. The French ones, known as Huguenots, who escaped to England after the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre may have been fleeing from our enemy, the King of France, but they didn't have quite the cushy ride that some try to make out today when referencing historical treatment of refugees. They did bring important craft skills with them.: silk-weaving, lace-, watch- & clock making, and efficient market gardening. Welby's Portal ancestor is said to have crossed the Channel in a barrel - he set up the firm that made the paper for banknotes (am not sure who makes the plastic stuff we're using now.)
Nevertheless, they weren't the `right kind' of Protestant. Unless they converted to CofE, or joined certain approved French-speaking congregations, they were subject to the same disabilities as other Dissenters (later called Nonconformists). Those who went to Scotland were OK, as they were absorbed into the Kirk, which was of a Calvinist persuasion, having been influenced by Dutch Protestantism.
I hope this clarifies the situation.
Of course royal watchers who have been following this train wreck would take it as confirmation of the Sussex scam. Some American would speculate devious reasons and try to twist it for their own agendas. People have realized H$M are liars on a grand scale. Most people know by now, the Sussexs have no credibility and are hypocrites in every breath.
If you’ve forgotten your password all you need to do is where you’d login to your Google account (associated with that screen name), is hit the forgotten password link under where you’d enter your password and you’ll get an email sent to you to reset it.
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It doesn't always work.
I logged out of my account ages back and it wouldn't let me back in. Went through the whole process of forgot password etc..
They refused to accept I was me even though I had another email plus my phone number to back up who I was.
I gave up and used another ID close to my original one.
The howling from the sugars alone would be epic!
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Gosh that’s a new one to me, worth noting! Thank you. 🥴
@UKfan,
😟 What a shame. Well at least you managed to get back even if under another guise. 😁
I'm glad you won against the technology in the end. Thanks for letting us know yr new ID
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In the Act of Settlement of 1701 we find this clause. "That after the said limitation shall take effect as aforesaid, no person born out of the Kingdoms of England, Scotland, or Ireland, or the dominions thereunto belonging (although he be naturalized or made a denizen, except such as are born of English parents) shall be capable to be of the Privy Council, or a member of either House of Parliament, or to enjoy any office or place of trust, either civil or military, or to have any grant of lands, tenements or hereditaments from the Crown, to himself or to any other or others in trust for him;
http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/act-of-settlement-1701--0/html/ffd48cde-82b1-11df-acc7-002185ce6064_1.html
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Note:
1) (although he be naturalized or made a denizen, except such as are born of English parents) Remembering that Lilibeth's father is English. It made me think)
b) Some clauses have been repealed and replaced by others over time. I still haven't been able to verify if it was repealed or not.
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Magatha... You are brilliant! 🤗❤️ It brightened my day. Today is #itcominghome.
Go, Go England
Hugs.
Re: lost passwords, lost acct. (and almost lost my mind trying....lol)
Yes, that was my experience with the technology of trying to hold onto my Google acct. However decided to use a new name that reflects my feeling for the wonderful UK.
After the 1st jab, it felt like my upper arm had been run over by a bus, but the pain was bearable, so I didn't bother medicating. My adult son,(who has been living with me since the first lockdown) also had Covid 19, and I was extremely lucky that he didn't pass it on to me as I have COPD.
I sincerely hope the vaccine will protect you and keep you safe.
Wishing you all the best and sending those cyber hugs right back at you. ❤
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-planned-secret-dinner-175716284.html
Ah, I'm glad you've posted that as it cuts through everything, tho' it seems to be a statement of customary practice rather then law.
I misinterpreted what you were saying - to me it sounded as if all `strains' of Protestant were interchangeable for the requirements of baptising royals.
My apologies.
Still, we know the #6s push the idea of not conforming to its limit.
@D1,
Re password
Gosh that’s a new one to me, worth noting! Thank you. 🥴
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I'm pretty good with the ins and outs of computers, have been fixing and setting them up for years.
Was gobsmacked when told the didn't recognise me etc..
Bang went my log in name and password retrieval..
I turned the air electric blue.
@UKfan said...
@D1
Re: lost passwords, lost acct. (and almost lost my mind trying....lol)
Yes, that was my experience with the technology of trying to hold onto my Google acct. However decided to use a new name that reflects my feeling for the wonderful UK.
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I ended up with new everything..
Never used to have this much hassle years back in the day.
Seems the more they try to protect accounts,info etc. the more they make things harder.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-planned-secret-dinner-175716284.html
Ree-a-lly???
Now I wonder who whispered that in the DM ear - someone with the intials OS, direct from MM?
Yahoo does come out with some bonkers assertions sometimes - the comment on Duchess C's green dress at Wimbledon was, apparently, ` patriotic'!
The last time I checked, Wimbledon was still in London SW19, not moved to Dublin. Has it been shifted in the last few hours?
Is this the Harkles playing it safe now that the Palace will deny direct assertions? They certainly can't say that there was a dinner, because that will be flatly contradicted. But if they say there were plans, that's vague enough to mean anything. After all, Prince Charles could have been planning things so secretly that he never told anyone -- not a single courtier and not even Camilla. In fact, Yahoo!'s source had to learn about it through an ouija board.
Seriously, what a nothingburger! It benefits the Harkles to say that Prince Charles wants to make amends -- but of course they have to say that with a question mark at the end. This is the kind of "substance" we can expect from them going forward.
England V Italy final....There are some lovely pics of William,Kate and George cheering madly after England scored in 2Mins. Daily Mail
Tbh, I'm usually quietly relieved if England gets knocked out of the running in any football tournament early on, before the louts take over. They disgust me. We are ashamed of them.
Yes, the parallels between Harry (6) and Harry Roper-Curzon are uncanny, aren't they? At least he had his mother who was suspicious of his wife and "turned 'Poirot'", and so did his brother and sister. Remove 'Mexican' and what do you get?: 'Harry says he was ‘completely taken in’ by the ambitious Mexican-American – a consummate networker with undoubted talent for self-promotion.' Rings a bell? As for his wife 'once described by the media as ‘the Mother Teresa of Mexico’', TBW probably sees herself as the Mother Teresa of Montecito! At least this Harry got out of it in time.
"... It benefits the Harkles to say that Prince Charles wants to make amends -- ... "
this.
So much of which is being put out there benefits only them [everyone is trying to make amends (implied for having treated them badly) or this person/or that person is worried (implied scared) of what might happen next (as if they now were hiding in the clothes closet quaking about how the powerful 6/6w will somehow come flying in the window, sword in hand and demand the line of succession be changed/money and jewelry given)] If it somehow makes them (6/6w) look like the opposite of their prior known behavior, I always think of it as a planted piece.
I thought about that other cousin who married the woman from USA/Mexico Kurdish royalty and so on. Is there any linkage with SS/friends of SS? It just sounded in some ways like it was the same playbook. Some differences (her religion/did not appear to convert> civil not coe). I'm not big on conspiracies but this is just hokey how it it parallels the same trajectory, into the some of the same circles.
The sad thing is that the BRF probably "turned Poirot" on Harry's wife immediately, too; he just didn't care about what they found. Perhaps part of him was glad that she was so unsuitable.
If Prince Harry does tomorrow what Harry Roper-Curzon did, what do you think would happen?
"She wasn't the woman she said she was. She lied to me many times, and lovesick fool that I was, I believed her. After the wedding, I felt that to be a good husband, I had to stand by my wife. What kind of a man would I be if I threw her to the wolves? She constantly compared herself to my mother and demanded that I prove my love anew every day. Now I realize that the most loving thing I can do for her is to make sure she gets the help she and many others like her need. I'm more sorry than I can say for the hurt I caused my family, especially my grandparents. I will forever regret not being by my grandfather's side when he passed away."
Congratulations England!
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qw3knmi75S1ud0n32.mp4
Thanks for sharing! Prince George brought a real smile to my face.
@WBBM
I'm so sorry about the louts! A friend in Sweden said she had to deal with them, too, when she watched an away game in Denmark. (After the Swedes won, the Swedish fans were given a police escort to protect them from angry Danish fans!) If only they could do the reverse of that clip and transform into paragons of dignity whenever a match is over!
If Prince Harry does tomorrow what Harry Roper-Curzon did, what do you think would happen?
"She wasn't the woman she said she was. She lied to me many times, and lovesick fool that I was, I believed her. After the wedding, I felt that to be a good husband, I had to stand by my wife. What kind of a man would I be if I threw her to the wolves? She constantly compared herself to my mother and demanded that I prove my love anew every day. Now I realize that the most loving thing I can do for her is to make sure she gets the help she and many others like her need. I'm more sorry than I can say for the hurt I caused my family, especially my grandparents. I will forever regret not being by my grandfather's side when he passed away."
H was lovesick stupid in 2016 and this is how it all went down in your one paragraph. You said it all/
The green dress that Catherine wore to Wimbledon is the tennis tournament's signature color, along with purple. Catherine wears that green color to Wimbledon quite often, as she is the patron for the tournament. Catherine often wears green to Wimbledon to reflect that Wimbledon is the only Grand Slam tournament played on grass. When she is not wearing green, she wears a green and purple pin to reflect her patronage and the colors of Wimbledon. So, yes, Catherine was doing her patriotic duty as patron by wearing green.
I forgot to say that Catherine wearing green at Wimbledon has nothing to do with Ireland. Ireland???
I also forgot to say that this would be very easy to look up the correct info before you post. You're on here all day, and surely you could take two minutes to look things up to make sure that what you're writing here is correct.
and scroll - the address is an office building, probably the phone numbers too
IMO being known for symbolic dressing (sometimes termed "flag dressing") as Kate is has its good and bad sides. The bad side means people sometimes see symbols that may not have been meant and could have been seen as odd if they had been meant. For example, wearing "Prussian" blue on arrival in Germany a few years ago was seen as a possible faux pas, dressing like Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby for Louis's reveal, dressing like Diana on a few occasions such as George's hospital reveal....
I know some of you are familiar with H.G.Tudor, the author of the narcsite.com website and the series of postings that discuss Meghan’s narcissism that began a few days before the May 2018 wedding a continue to this day.
H.G.Tudor will be a guest on a popular overnight talk show here in the States tonight (Sunday night) into early Monday morning. The show is called Coast to Coast AM, and it starts at 1am eastern time Monday morning and goes until 6am Eastern time.
You can listen to it live on the Internet. Tudor’s segment will be the second half of the show, which would put him coming on at about 3:30 am Eastern time. You can listen on WOR Radio 710 AM out of New York City. The Coast to Coast AM website has a list of all its radio affiliate stations.
C2C AM as it is called is not a traditional talk show. It has a main host Monday through Friday night, and then a group of several other hosts on Saturday and Sunday night. The topics run the gamut of topics such as UFOs, Bigfoot and other off-the-wall stuff to a segment on last night’s show about the late American heiress Doris Duke, who likely got away with murdering a friend of hers in the 1960s. Duke has been dead for quite some time, but last night’s guest is a writer who has been digging into the story of her friend’s “accidental” death, which is now now looking like a cold-blooded murder. The book Homicide at Rough Point by Peter Lance was the source of an excerpted article by Lance that appeared in Vanity Fair in late 2020. The book was published early this year. Duke University is named after Doris Duke’s family.
Anyway, here is the C2C tease to Tudor’s segment. It does not say he will be discussing Meghan, but I am guessing it is likely to come up as an example of someone being trapped in a relationship with a narcissist.
I hope I am able to stay awake late enough to catch the Tudor segment.
The tease: Second Half: H.G. Tudor is a diagnosed narcissistic psychopath who provides unrivaled insight into his world. He has written more than 50 books to allow people to understand the mind of the narcissist. He'll reveal how to make sense of entanglement with a narcissist.
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Wild Boar Battle-maid, I am so sorry that you had to read that. It does not in any way reflect the opinion of many others
I’m with you on this.
Thanks!
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qw3knmi75S1ud0n32.mp4
Agree with Enbrethiliel, William's exuberance and for a moment there, forgetting he is royal and FA Pres - that sheer moment of joy! You can feel it.
Prince George was so cute. He also did a little baby jump - echoing his father. So adorable.
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Expressing fondness for the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club doesn't not constitute `Patriotism' as such in my book. The colours of the UK are red, white and blue, of England they are red and white. For Scotland it's blue and white. The only green is in the Welsh flag where it is a foil for the red dragon.
Even the flags of smaller parts of the UK which like to express their non-English/Scottish identity, to whit Cornwall, Orkney and Shetland, are devoid of green.
Wimbledon is just one expression of Englishness/Britishness; one might as well say that wearing light and or dark blue is `patriotic' because of the Boat Race.
Green certainly suits the Duchess of Cambridge but in terms of expressing loyalty to a nation state, ie patriotism, it represents Ireland.
I am aware that the colours of Wimbledon are green and violet/purple, with white – I finally resorted to hiding away my husband’s Wimbledon souvenir bath towel because of the dark- coloured lint it still shed in the bathroom after years of use - and no, it’s not worn out, it’s such high quality it’d go on for years yet.
If those colours are to be identified with any cause at all, it is with that of Women's Suffrage - Green, White and Violet - Give Women Votes, get it?
`British Racing Green', once used in motor racing, is said to have originated as an honour to Ireland when the Gordon Bennett races were held there long ago. Perhaps this is how Yahoo became confused?
I like to think that my memory is still good enough that I can state things I’ve known for almost as long as the Queen has been on the throne without having to check up. (Oh, and I first went to Wimbledon in 1959.)
It should be possible to disagree without it becoming ad hominem.
Politically speaking, WBBM is correct to make the difference apparent.
Sorry for any confusion. It's late here.
Yes, I know I omitted NI aka the Six Counties - it's always delicate, given that orange is claimed by not all of its residents.The official flag is the Union Flag.
Incidentally, orange is used by the Netherlands/Dutch sporting teams although the national flag is another one with blue,red and white.
Criticism of thoughts and ideas are welcome. Ones that get personal are not appropriate.
This is a gossip blog and not an academic resource, so always expecting complete accuracy and no diversity in opinions from anonymous strangers on the internet is not a reasonable standard. You will be better off seeking that elsewhere.
While I appreciate posters supporting each other, I ask that we not escalate disagreements with each other by making it a team sport. Please be peaceful in your disagreements.
Thank you in advance.
I hope everyone is safe, healthy, and doing well.
IMO being known for symbolic dressing (sometimes termed "flag dressing") as Kate is has its good and bad sides . . . dressing like Diana on a few occasions such as George's hospital reveal....
I wasn't a big royal watcher at the time and I thought it was adorable! It would have been cuter if she had worn something "original" that later turned out to be a copy of one of her own mother's post-birth dresses. (But then I imagine what forced meaning people would read into that and realize it would be even more of a faux pas.) It was when Catherine was still dressed like Diana for the presentation of Princess Charlotte that I felt it was overkill. The Rosemary connection was extra unfortunate.
And yes, I wouldn't really have minded if Harry's wife had worn red after her own fashion after the supposed birth of their own son, echoing the color of his mother's red dress. It would have been an appropriate moment for that, unlike the rest of her cosplay incidents.
I do like symbolic dressing, but I see your point that once you've become known for it, you can't wear anything neutral any longer. People will read something into it.
I don't envy you -- being a moderator is one of the tougher tightropes to walk, and the position must always be respected, IMO, regardless of whether we agree with them or not. Each blog has its own way of doing things/allowing things, and the choice always remains with individuals whether to continue participating or head off to other pastures. Harry-Markle, of the Harry Markle blog, is quite strict enforcing his/her rules, to the point where s/he has been cutting off comments to threads after barely 100-plus posts lately. LSA continually deploys the threat of complete thread removal due to rule infractions, which, while pretty draconian, seems to be enough of a stick for individuals to use (along with their blocking function) to effectively "ice out" unwanted posters and keep everyone more or less on the straight and narrow. Regardless, these are the rules and customs of the blog owners, and must be respected, if not agreed with. I share your wish that people can move on (and stay on topic and off tangent).
Back on topic then -- on a lighter note -- some LSAers are claiming H wore shoe lifts a la Tom Cruise at the statue unveiling, their receipts being photos showing PW and H as equal in height (PW is at least 2 inches taller) and photos of H's sock heels showing above the shoe line. 😅😈
Are you a regular listener of Coast to Coast AM? A friend of mine was a fan when Art Bell was still the host, but I've only listened to the interviews with Father Malachi Martin, who was an exorcist.
To be dangerously frank, I've long suspected a strain of the preternatural in narcissism and the like. There's real evil in seeing a fellow human being as a mere tool or source of fuel. Then last year, while listening to an interview with another exorcist, I heard him say that demons often pass on their personality disorders to the souls who accept their influence. That sealed the deal for me.
Now, I'm NOT saying Harry's wife is possessed. I obviously cannot make that call. But narcissism as it is described by people who were victimized by it -- and by H.G. Tudor himself -- has uncanny parallels with descriptions of what it's like to interact and to live with possessed people. It's not all about paranormal activity. Sometimes you look at the possessed person, whom you may have seen every day for years, and realize there's nothing behind his or her eyes. The person you thought they were never actually existed. Not because there's another "ego" in there that's putting on different personas, but because there really is nothing but a void.
Anyway, I'm not surprised that Coast to Coast AM is doing a show on narcissism. and I'm curious about the angle they'll take.
I thought the polka dot dress for George's intro was kind of cute too. But then the symbolic dressing seemed to quickly get out of hand not only with the "Diana dressing" and with some tour outfits, but also with dressing George in Will's old clothes or in copies of his old clothes.
My main point was that people see things that probably aren't meant when a person becomes too well known for "sending messages" with her clothes.
A recent example: M fans criticized Kate for wearing the earrings to Archie's christening that Diana wore when Harry was christened. They said she should have offered to let M wear them that day. IF Kate wore those earrings for that reason, that is weird to me. Kate not know Diana, and it's odd enough to dress like a long-dead MIL anyway, but there's no reason for Kate to dress in ways that relate to Diana's relationship with Harry. That's especially true for an event like the christening of H's first child. So if Kate wore them for that reason, it was creepy IMO. But I personally doubt she did. She also wore those same earrings with that same pink dress to TQ's extended family Christmas lunch at BP the year before. I sincerely doubt that 5 months before Archie was even born Kate wore that outfit as "cover" for her devious plan!
I enjoyed reading your thoughts about how narcissism and demonic possession are entertwined. I think a case could definitely be made for somebody undergoing a profound personality change to the dark side after messing around with the occult. I believe it was C. S. Lewis who wrote that Satan’s most effective strategy is to convince humankind that he does not exist, thus ensuring that we let our guard down.
It may seem odd to say this but if I thought M’s mental disorders had a supernatural cause, I would feel there was more hope for her, because there would be a chance that she could be cleansed of her evil and learn to live life as a normal giving person. If there were a “real” M who had been suppressed by a demonic force and who was crying to be set free, it might happen with the right intervention. I would personally contribute to a donation to Free Meghan with a exorcism. Would that it were so simple. M has amply demonstrated that she has been bad to the bone since she was very small. The defects in the wiring go deep. She does have those dead and soulless eyes, and at times the camera does capture her demonesque true self when the mask slips. That shot of her in the car when she and H were leaving the Mountbatten Festival of Music made my blood run cold. This is, I believe, the face H lives with behind gated walls, the one that anyone who serves her in private sees, To credit this to demonic influence gives her an out—it’s the ultimate in non-responsibility for her own behavior.
While I agree with C.S. Lewis, I also am of two minds about the possession thing. People of old may have invented the tales of possession to explain the inexplicable, for them—epileptic fits...or individuals like M who seem to go through life without soul or conscience. What a pity she was ever born into the world, but I think what we are looking at is human-made damage, both pernicious and permanent.
For instance, in my family, we had a kilt handed down from mother to aunt to me. Same with some dresses, and it would have gone further if either of my daughters had had girls. I gave my sister a necklace when she was my maid of honor, and she had this made into earrings for "something old" (also blue) when my daughter got married. Nothing like valuable jewelry in the royal family, of course! I have many many examples because we're a parsimonious family who buys quality and hangs on to it. Up until this generation (my children) we also dressed pretty old-fashioned, too, like Charlotte's smocked dresses.
I can *sorta* see Kate wearing those earrings (not that I spent any time thinking about it) not as a family thing that she was entitled to, but as a hereditary thing, if that makes any sense.
Again, I don't think about these people much--I'm just on here for the shock value, awaiting the next scandal--but I'm sure they must be walking a fine line between -- well, I was going to say trying to please people, but maybe it's between doing the right thing and displeasing the fewest people. And for that, they have dressers and advisors. Well, except 6w of course. She has neither . . .
In an effort to exonerate Catherine from at least one charge of egregiously insensitive appropriation of her deceased MIL’s jewelry, may I submit the following for your consideration?: The reason Catherine is dressed identically for Archie’s christening in Windsor in July as she did for the Queen’s Christmas lunch at Windsor the previous December, down to her accessories—hair band, earrings and shoes—is because it is in fact the same image of Catherine. C. is known for rewearing her clothes, but recycling every piece of an outfit she had debuted at another formal sitting in the same venue for a summer event and a winter event both is odd, don’t you think?
If you look carefully at Charles and Camilla’s attire, it is the very same outfits they wore to Louis’s christening down to the flower in Chas’s buttonhole. Camilla looks lit and also has water stains on the toecaps of her shoes. Odd. Lady Jane Fellowes looks dressed for a day at the boat races, not a church ceremony. Odd. Nobody’s eye lines match up with the camera except M$H’s. Odd. And C. in her Christmas outfit looks to be about 8 feet tall in relation to her 6’2” husband.
I think we can exonerate C. from being so petty as to ‘steal’ Diana’s earrings from her sister in law, “the glowing mum, on the christening day of her firstborn son”, if this entire tableau was staged.
Wasn't Catherine reported as wearing blue when they supposedly arrived in Windsor that day?
Could the photo faker have `given' C those earrings?
Why the heck would C have thought like that? Did she just think they looked nice?
She hadn't worn them for some while so they'd make a change?
What petty minds the sugars have.
I'm with Hikari on the real reason Catherine was wearing those earrings at Archie's Christening. Even if there was an actual baby whom the Harkles are legal parents to and there was a Christening of him at Windsor, well, the photo is downright weird. Catherine was photographed arriving at the venue in a blue dress and leaving the venue in the same blue dress, with unusually little time between the arrival and the departure.
But I do agree with Lizzie that people will see things that weren't intended, when someone is known for symbolic dressing. My favorite example is the hat with a rose that Catherine wore to the 2020 Commonwealth Service. All the Cambridge stans on Tumblr were dead certain that it was a direct message to Harry's wife: "I know you started the Rose rumors." That Catherine or her stylist simply liked that hat and thought it would be appropriate was considered a far less likely explanation.
I completely agree with you, it was a strangely heavy wintery look for a summer event. Is the headband velvet? Who wears red velvet at a summer christening?
Did the faker just use an unpublished photo from a previous occasion for C?
"While I'm not a fan of outright "costumes", I have to defend some sentimental dressing and report that ordinary people do it too."
"For instance, in my family, we had a kilt handed down from mother to aunt to me...."
I know of families that have done the same thing. In my family there is a branch that has passed down a wedding veil. Looked a bit tattered at its last outing but the bride wanted to wear her grandmother's veil. But to me, it's a little different if a clothing item is handed down directly mother to daughter or granddaughter vs dead mother's estate to son to DIL. In the first case, the wearer likely has some personal sentimental feelings about the item having seen an ancestor wear it. In the absence of personal sentimental feelings, it seems more like wearing a costume to me.
Certainly Kate had a "right" to wear whatever jewelry she wished to Archie's christening including pieces that belonged to Diana. But if she intentionally wore jewelry related to Harry, I think that was a mistake. There was no reason for her to offer to loan the earrings to M but if she chose to wear them for symbolic reasons, that's very weird to me. And it could be seen as an example of an unnecessary power play. It's not as though Kate dressed at all like Diana for her own children's christenings. She's always worn white/cream and Diana wore bright colors. So why copy Diana as Harry and Meghan's guest? It's not as though Diana would be forgotten that day if not for Kate's symbolic dressing. So she didn't have the "job" of representing anyone's "heredity."
And I agree @Hikari @WBBM & @Enbrethiliel
that there are other explanations for the earrings (as I said in my first post.) But IF it was intentional, it was petty and tacky IMO. And once a person is known not just for "recycling" clothes (dumb term!) but for symbolic dressing, anything can look intentional to somebody (like the rose hat! Like Kate had never worn a hat with a rose on it before!)
It is obvious that some type of event happened that day. Is it possible that "Archie" was christened but that the family for some reason refused to participate in photographs?
The only ones who look somewhat natural in that photo are H&M and "Baby Archie"...but we did see the Cambridges arrive. (If others were also seen arriving I do not remember).
Therefore the Harkles had no option but to create that photo. Can any Nutty imagine a background scenario for this possible situation?
This is a gossip blog and not an academic resource, so always expecting complete accuracy and no diversity in opinions from anonymous strangers on the internet is not a reasonable standard. You will be better off seeking that elsewhere.
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I said nothing personal to "scold" @Jocelyn (who has been a regular for quite a long time) but as you suggested I kept it peaceful while merely stating the political position on Anglo Irish relations and the Royal Family. I have learned to stay objective and to stay detached on the blog much as I did in my professional life. It works better for me and the blog.
I understand there are posters here who have hinted more than once that I am not wanted here. Until I am actually told I am not wanted on NF blog by the Admin, I will continue to join in on occasion.
Since, I often sign off to keep the peace and to keep those dissentors happy, maybe I missed something that's been deleted by you... since I canceled the email function?
I really enjoy the academic views on the BRF. They are large part of what makes this blog interesting IMO. It keeps the toxicity down, as we all know gossip as fun as it can be, can turn toxic quite fast.
@WBBM,
I know full well the Union Jack is the flag of England. It is also used in tandem with the flags of Ulster including the Loyalist flags, regularly. The Queen and her family are the whole reason the Loyalist movements are in existence.
Referring to a member of the BRF as a supporter of Ireland (aside from tours to Ireland by the BRF) can be considered inflammatory, as we saw.
Re: sentimental dressing
I think it's lovely when children can wear clothes that had belonged to the younger versions of their parents or grandparents. There really is a sense of tradition and family in that. And they don't have to be little tykes, either. Lady Louise recently stepped out in an old jacket of Prince Philip's and looked like a million bucks.
It seems to me that it only became an issue with Catherine because sugars thought she was taking baby clothes for her children or jewelry for herself that Harry's wife should have had first dibs on. (Honestly, this could be a Reddit post. "I'm okay with my SIL using her husband's old baby clothes for her children, but I feel that she needs to draw the line at my husband's old baby clothes. My in-laws take her side because she married in first and her husband was the favorite son. I get that, but now that I'm here, I want her to respect my place in the family and leave me some baby clothes, too. AITA?") The only time Harry's wife was able to recycle something, well, it wasn't even really recycling. We all know that the child actor in South Africa wasn't wearing the same knitted hat with a pompom that had once been his father's. She didn't seem to have access to any of Harry's old clothes any more than she had access to her late mother-in-law's jewelry.
Not sure about royal jewelry as who owns what seems to be a murky matter, one that I don't follow. Well, except that both 2w and 6w prefer dainty modern pieces; can't remember the name of the maker that Kate used to buy a lot of and what 6w wears is, or used to be, a matter of merching.
Is it possible that "Archie" was christened but that the family for some reason refused to participate in photographs?
If the disgruntled-looking Cambridges had been persuaded to be seen arriving and leaving, they wouldn't have said no to posing for a photo. I think the doctored photo was as much a fait accompli as the baby in its center and the moon bumps that preceded him. Whether they found out later, after getting dressed for the occasion and showing up, or knew beforehand and were just told to come over for the sake of a timeline, is a toss up.
They clearly did not want to be participating in the charade that day, but still played along. Catherine even wore light blue, as appropriate for a baby boy. In her place, I would have been in full black. Let the royal watchers and wardrobe decoders figure that out!
I know the Cambridges will never spill any tea on the photo, but I had hoped for a while that one of the Spencer aunts would. Lady Sarah's actions at the unveiling have rekindled my expectation that we will hear something someday.
I can *sorta* see Kate wearing those earrings (not that I spent any time thinking about it) not as a family thing that she was entitled to, but as a hereditary thing, if that makes any sense.
Indeed. A continuity between generations pictorially represented.
I would go further and say that the DoC was paying tribute to her MiL's memory by including Diana, as the mother of her husband the heir, in the birth of the next heir(s).
Sadly, I do not or cannot ascribe any such good attentions to 6w mostly because hers seems to be for money-gathering purposes.
@Lavender Lady
There was no issue with your comments. I greatly appreciated your knowledgeable response about U.K.'s political colors. You didn't miss anything. I was late to the "party" and had to catch up after waking up for work 4am my time.
Thanks for the clarity. Just making sure...
I agree with @Lt. Uhura. Your work as moderator is very much appreciated. :)
I am sorry that you feel unwelcome here. Please know that you are welcome.
The Union Flag (`Union Jack' when it's flying on a jack staff in the stern of a ship) is the flag of the whole UK aka GB, made up of the 3 individual flags with crosses. (Wales isn't represented within it).
That's why it's called the Union Flag and why it is rejected by nationalists in 3 of the 4 countries involved.
The design is from 3 relevant crosses, superimposed.
I really don't wish to get into the minutiae and a discussion concerning your own flag. I merely stated I am aware the Union Jack is the ***official*** flag of NI, whether some there like it or not. That is the crux of the whole problem there...
Btw, it's ok to respond to me directly. I don't bite. Really, I don't. I'm a Christian person, as you are. I even attend an Episcopal church these days now that Covid is open in my area. All is well...
Good day :)
I agree completely!
I am sorry that you feel unwelcome here. Please know that you are welcome.
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Thanks so much for this. It means a lot to me. I am evolving, growing and learning from my mistakes.
You are very kind.
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I've read a lot of comments on a lot of sites saying that the kickers chosen by the English coach were not the best kickers he had and were all young and relatively inexperienced and that they were chosen so that England could have a black sports hero. So, they lost the championship ostensibly for wokeness' sake. This is why people are angry, because they know the real reason these players were chosen for the psychologically difficult task they were given. It wasn't fair to the players, both white and black, and it wasn't fair to the nation. Get woke, go broke.
If there were a “real” M who had been suppressed by a demonic force and who was crying to be set free . . .
Leaving aside the preternatural for a moment, the question of where the "real" person is seems to have been posed by everyone who has had extensive experience with narcs. They can put on multiple faces, depending on what they think will serve them best. But then who is the one wearing the masks? Is there someone underneath it all whom medication, therapy or some other form of help can set free?
The sobering answer is that there might not be. All narcs are "bad to the bone" and seem to have been from a very early age. These days, however, we're less likely to blame demonic influence than bad parenting.
In the mid-2000s, I discoveredThe Last Psychiatrist blog, which approached narcissism (among other things) in a very original way. Here is one of my favorite posts from there:
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/12/if_this_is_one_of_the_sexiest.html
If you didn't know it was from 2006, and if I told you that he has been watching the Harkle drama unfold since 2017, studying Harry's wife as closely as possible, wouldn't that be credible?
Oh dear, I was thinking it might be a better idea to make that a general remark as there may be others who might appreciate clarification - it's another of our weirdnesses.
I certainly value your presence here and am sad that you thought otherwise.
It was our weak point then and still seems to be so.
Please don't be upset @Swampwomn, the last picture looked like alligator ate 6 & only his head sticking out of his mouth and currently not sure if that's 6w benching a branch? @Miggy is that the girl from horror movie The Ring?
I have taken to practicing audio by listening to tv programs without looking at tv. Still value putting a book in hand's to read. Blessed to have Mom who built our school's elementary library. She started preschool reading hour and held annual book sale to support the library, every dime went to the library.
I wonder if 6 would ditch his hag if he could find an elderly sugar momma?
The coach was following the woke script, and look where it got him.
Makes one wonder just how many ppl may have caught onto this very obvious realization. Did someone higher up put pressure on the coach? Surely the UK citizens are questioning this decision amongst themselves. Makes the UK coach look like a chump. It's unfortunate and unfair about the racism, but let's face it, if the coach had placed a white kicker of the same ability in that high stake shot he would be fired for his stupidity.
Catching up on the day's posts.
Your post re Camilla and Charles' attire for Archie' christening and Louis' got me thinking. I remembered something had been said at the time about Camilla's dress being the same and I checked then and it wasn't. I checked again and although Charles seems to be wearing the same jacket, the tie is different. Camilla's dress is definitely different - unless I'm not looking at the same photos as you.
Louis: https://tinyurl.com/ctaz3vt2
Archie: https://tinyurl.com/xm94cv8f
I recall doing the same when the discussion came up a long time ago. I agree with you. They are definitely not the same outfits. Subtle differences... but they are there if you look!
The blogger writes, "A psychopath doesn't experience humiliation (shame). Narcissist are highly vulnerable to shame. It is the trigger for their rage reactions. In contrast, psychopathic aggression is of the cool predatory variety."
If so, IMO the mrs. is a psychopath, she is a predator, while mr. is the narcissist. When did we last see his rage? When the child asked to see a photo of the new baby. He turned red, and stormed off. Because there ain't no baby.
There must have been shame and humiliation at the unveiling where mr. was 90% ignored by his brother. I'll bet he felt that shame/rage all the way home to LA.
I've got a beta narcissist in my family. His rage is of the sneaky kind, deliberately ruining objects and causing physical damage to ones's belongings. He's done it to me, and he's done it to his boyfriends when they dump him. It's the kind of damage that it takes a few days to discover. I wonder if mr. has the sneaky kind of rage besides the immediate visible rage he displayed at the event before the unveiling? If sneaky, he might be cheating on the mrs. or somehow attempting to derail her in some way. He would need to get even with her. Believe me, I know about that stuff first hand.
The picture of Kate in the car has her in blue, and the article mentions that.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2019070675015/prince-william-kate-arrive-archies-christening/
Since only Williams white shirt shows in the car, we can't tell about him.
One has to wonder what they thought when they saw the weird "Christening photo" in the press.
I don't recall any negative post to me from you. We've always gotten along just fine and have exchanged many a pleasant post.I'm glad that you're here.
@WBBM,
It doesn't matter what YOU think the definition of "patriotic" is, but here's Webster's definition, which is exactly what Catherine was doing at Wimbledon- being a patriot for her country:
"One who loves or supports his or her country." A synonym for the word patriot, is "loyalist."
From dictionary.com:
Patriotic:
The word "patriotic" is a noun that means "devoted love, support and defense of one's country, national loyalty. The term often applies to state and federal representatives."
It's as simple as that. That is what patriotic means. You could have looked up the definition, too, before you attempted to argue with me yet again.
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"The picture of Kate in the car has her in blue, and the article mentions that."
It does. But there is also a big swath of pink in that picture. I'm not so sure the blue isn't a coat. Kate has at least 5-6 baby blue coats.
I do think the photo is odd and definitely think there was some photoshopping done. But the Express photo doesn't convince me one way or the other.
https://news.yahoo.com/british-army-parachutist-crashes-roof-134320357.html
That's really interesting that the psychologist says that narcs work from a position of shame and that psychopaths have no shame. Then the shame reaction for a narc is rage. That's the first clear definition that I've seen on here.
I agree that H must have felt the shame/rage while flying home to 6x. I think he may also have felt fear in facing his narc, 6x, coming back to Mudslide Mansion without any agreement with the BRF.
"Colours
The present colours — dark green and purple — were introduced in 1909 following the discovery that the previous Club colours of blue, yellow, red and green were almost identical to those of the Royal Marines. The decision as to why dark green and purple were chosen is not stated in the Club's records"
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/about_aeltc.html
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Kate honored her sponsorship position.
If she was reflecting her patron honour, why didn’t she wear green and purple? A horrid colour combo is a given, but personally I don’t see it as her honouring her position. 🥴 They usually mention symbolic gestures (in this case clothing worn) in the media. I will add that haven’t checked to see if there was a mention. 🤗
It must be quite stressful for parents trying to decide whether their children should be vaccinated and, if so, which variety to use.
If she was reflecting her patron honour, why didn’t she wear green and purple? A horrid colour combo is a given, but personally I don’t see it as her honouring her position. 🥴 They usually mention symbolic gestures (in this case clothing worn) in the media. I will add that haven’t checked to see if there was a mention. 🤗
Maybe she just couldn't force herself to put on a purple scarf (shudder).
Jocyelyn I also suffer from dry eyes, though not as bad as yours. If you haven't already check what you are washing your face with. I find that anything with sodium lauryl sulfate in it makes my eyes much worth. Following a recent examination I was told that the inside of my ears were also dry and told to squirt medical grade olive oil (marketed as Earol in the UK) down them. Stangeley this seems to have also helped my dry eyes.
Cheere!
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Kate Middleton’s Dress Is a Playful Nod to Wimbledon History
"..the dress also served as a subtle nod to the tennis tournament’s signature color scheme of purple and green, with the latter hue chosen for Middleton’s dress also reflecting Wimbledon’s status as the only Grand Slam tournament played on grass court."
https://www.vogue.com/article/kate-middleton-wimbledon-green-dress
All of you are confusing your country's colors, red, white and blue, with the colors for
Wimbledon, which are green and purple.
I'm not going to explain this further, because I know this is just tit for tat as far as some people are concerned on this blog. WBBM doesn't like me for correcting her completely incorrect posts, so of course, she will disagree with me.
Then, RR, you piled on, too, with complete nonsense. Your post doesn't even make sense. Can't you tell the difference between your national colors and tournament colors? I'm sorry, RR, that you are so colorblind that you can't see that Wimbledon is a sea of green.
For both of you, you should be concerned more about being CORRECT in your postings rather than ganging up on somebody with a opposing view. It's a lame and pathetic attempt and both of you are really quite laughable.
Oh, I hope that you are having a nice few days away. Any news that we have of other countries is that they are ALL GOING TO DIEEEEE (and so are we). Have a lovely time.
Imagine putting a 19 year old in a situation where the entire championship depends on him. This is what the English coach did. He had several white, experienced, better players to choose from, but went with this young man? That's not fair to the poor guy. Nor to the older players.
As someone who comes from an academic background, I will say that depending on one specific dictionary established during one specific time-period to give you the definition of the word "patriotism" is rather simplistic. How do you think those definitions come about?
Linguists and philosophizers have been debating and trying to establish the definition of words like "patriotism" for centuries. The key question: what constitutes patriotism?
So it's not unreasonable for someone, anyone to question whether wearing green and purple because it is the colors of their nation's sport tournament is patriotic. You may opine that Catherine wearing that dress constitutes patriotism but whether it "truly" is, is debatable for a lot of people including experts.
I haven't read all the comments so I'm not sure what happened, but despite our differences, I think your absence from this blog will be a real loss to everyone, so I hope that you reconsider your decision to take a break.
However, I understand that these things can be stressful, so I respect your need for a respite.
I didn't take your post as directed towards me I was just giving the Anglo Irish political perspective concerning the idea that perhaps Catherine was making a statement with her choice of clothing. Thank you for your kind words. I too have enjoyed your past posts :)
@WBBM,
Understood. Thank you. I'm late for the party as @Charade says. I was out for the day and just now checking in.
Enjoy your few days away but hurry back :) We will miss your insight and wonderful stories of your life growing up in the UK!
@WBBM,
Wherever it is that you're off to - relax and enjoy! 😊
And don't forget to pack your brolly! ☔
As an "academic", are you also a linguist? Is that what your degree is in? Linguistics? If not, then I believe Webster's Dictionary over somebody who says they are "an academic." People who work for fake online "universities" call themselves "academics", too. You should be embarrassed by trying to pull rank as an "academic." LOL.
I come from a long line of academics (who would never call themselves academics in public), and I can tell you that they are as often as wrong as anybody else. Being an academic doesn't mean that you're right, and using "I'm an academic" as your source isn't worth the time it took you to write it. I'm kind of embarrassed for you that you would think anybody would be impressed as being an "academic."
There are highly intelligent people who have their doctorates from the top 5 who are working at Burger King. I know of two former Harvard professors. One is running a bodega in upper NY state and the other is jobless because nobody will hire him.
Now, you're telling me that definitions FROM A DICTIONARY (Websters) aren't legit, and that yours are better than Webster's?? Give me a break. I also didn't need a "lesson" from you about dictionaries. Of course, each one is different. I'm just shaking my head at the idiocy of trying to say that YOU are more correct than a dictionary.
Now, I've spent hours on this silly subject, so please stop with the "I'm an academic, so take my word for everything." That's ridiculous.
"And don't forget to pack your brolly"
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You gave me a laugh...I was thinking your 'Brolly' was maybe british slang for underwear when I saw the little emoji (looking like panties or a thong). I thought no, but maybe?
Now people are going to have a laugh at my expense.
In the Pacific Northwest, we use the word "bumbershoot" for umbrellas.There's even a bumbershoot festival every year.
PNWers have a funny relationship with umbrellas. We know that a person is from out of the state if they're carrying an umbrella. We pride ourselves on never using one. I don't know why, except that we get more drizzly days than rainy days?
Fresh item on Blind Gossip: https://blindgossip.com/spinning-the-freeze-out/
Spinning The Freeze Out
We told you that a famous family decided to adopt a new strategy in dealing with its rogue member.
They are freezing him out.
You may have noticed that Sonny’s family has rarely mentioned him in the past few months.
That cold approach was also evident during his recent visit.
While there were media reports that Sonny was meeting with this family member over lunch and that family member over dinner… that actually was not true!
You mean his team was lying to us? Gasp!
Total private interactions with family? One.
There was one only one discussion and it was not pleasant. Multiple non-family members were present to prevent any misinterpretation of the issues. Only one family member was present. The discussion was formal and brief and centered around several business matters. It will not be made public.
A formal agenda of business items that could only be discussed with witnesses present? That sounds intriguing!
Business aside, what about social interaction with his family? Sonny was in close proximity to dozens of family members who have not seen him in a long time. Didn’t he meet up with them?
Multiple requests from him to meet with various family members were politely but firmly declined.
The bottom line is that the entire family knows that they can not trust him. Any private conversation would be taken straightaway to the media and twisted to suit his agenda. They will not be fooled again.
Any reports or suggestions coming from his team that he had a private dinner with one family member or engaged in a long heartfelt conversation with another family member are fabricated.
So although his team is trying to spin the visit, the truth is that everyone in the family really is avoiding Fredo Sonny right now.
The freeze out continues!
Oh that's interesting...it made me look up 'bumbershoot'. Thanks.
PNWers have a funny relationship with umbrellas. We know that a person is from out of the state if they're carrying an umbrella. We pride ourselves on never using one. I don't know why, except that we get more drizzly days than rainy days?
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I saw that same phenomena in Ireland a good while ago. Things may have changed. The locals thought it was cheesy to use an umbrella. That's one way how they knew people were American (along with other tell tale signs...lol).
It pissed rained so much you'd think they'd use them but nope.
I got the impression the above was preceding and or a cause of the below:
So rumor has it that Vice Pres Kamala Harris sent a friendly text to MM to ask for a pic of the little peanut! This text has not been answered. Again, this is from the video I watched, she says she has inside info.
She also said Meghan is FURIOUS they're not making big money and apparently Oprah is absolutely DONE with Meghan (not necessarily Harry) that Harry is miserable and that the BRF keeps a door open for his return (as we know) with the stipulation he must return alone (no Meghan, maybe w/ ghost kids).
What else did she say? Spotify is pissed about their crap deal, the girl they hired is too little too late, OH she said Doria was seen picking up numerous bags from Gayle's house, suggesting that either A) Meghan had kicked out Doria who had crashed at Gayle's (and was picking up her stuff) or B) that MEGHAN had crashed at Gayle's possibly after a fight w/ Harry and Doria was picking up Meghan's stuff.
"Royal Gossip 101" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSFwCeNK4ck
Hey guys!
Fresh item on Blind Gossip: https://blindgossip.com/spinning-the-freeze-out/
Spinning The Freeze Out
We told you that a famous family decided to adopt a new strategy in dealing with its rogue member.
They are freezing him out.
You may have noticed that Sonny’s family has rarely mentioned him in the past few months.
That cold approach was also evident during his recent visit.
While there were media reports that Sonny was meeting with this family member over lunch and that family member over dinner… that actually was not true!
You mean his team was lying to us? Gasp!
Total private interactions with family? One.
There was one only one discussion and it was not pleasant. Multiple non-family members were present to prevent any misinterpretation of the issues. Only one family member was present. The discussion was formal and brief and centered around several business matters. It will not be made public.
A formal agenda of business items that could only be discussed with witnesses present? That sounds intriguing!
Business aside, what about social interaction with his family? Sonny was in close proximity to dozens of family members who have not seen him in a long time. Didn’t he meet up with them?
Multiple requests from him to meet with various family members were politely but firmly declined.
The bottom line is that the entire family knows that they can not trust him. Any private conversation would be taken straightaway to the media and twisted to suit his agenda. They will not be fooled again.
Any reports or suggestions coming from his team that he had a private dinner with one family member or engaged in a long heartfelt conversation with another family member are fabricated.
So although his team is trying to spin the visit, the truth is that everyone in the family really is avoiding Fredo Sonny right now.
The freeze out continues!
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Yep! Lady C called it. She said they are being "iced out" by the RF & co. I have believed for a long time now she has the ear of someone in the palace. This points to my belief being substantiated.
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SHE HAD US ALL FOOLED!! I do not find Skippy or her resources credible. While I may still read them, everyone else is more credible but... it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Over on LSA they are discussing the possibility of SIDS for Lili but they think it is toooooo far out there (convenient) on the back of the miscarriage, etc.
Also I created an account over there (on LSA) and whatever, fight me.
I don't think Skippy's sources are credible, either. I do read her blog, along with just about every other Harkle blog, and sometimes the ideas brought up there are outlandish. I can skip the puppies and rainbows, too.
As for signing up at LSA, I read there too, but haven't joined. I will not fight you! LOL. I'll look for you over there.
What you wrote about H's London visit and the freezing out, coincides with that Bookworm has been saying on her blog. I posted about it on Jenn's blog, so check there.
Bookworm does say that H is still welcome back into the BRF, but MM will never be allowed back. They do not trust him, so he will be left out of many things because he's basically a security risk now.
If all that from blind gossip is true that is really sad. So sad that H was in quarantine for 5 days and not one visitor. I suppose he had some interaction with Princess Eugenie. Or did she leave his meals right by his door after knocking? Cold sandwiches, a cookie and a beer?
I am pretty sure family members could have come over to Frogmore to visit H. Just sit outside 10ft away and no one is going to get Covid. Sit outside shooting the breeze with Harry. Might have to shout a bit when airplanes are overhead.
Yep! Lady C called it. She said they are being "iced out" by the RF & co. I have believed for a long time now she has the ear of someone in the palace. This points to my belief being substantiated.
@LL and Hunter:
I am wondering if the RF and/or their staffers have been reading the numerous comments all over social media outlining Meghan’s narcissistic personality disorder and how Harry was caught up in her web of deceit, toxicity, manipulation, and control and finally consulted with psychology/psychiatry experts to determine the best way to deal with Meghan.
The best way to deal with a narcissist is to cut them off. It removes a major source of narcissistic fuel for the narc and it also considerably cuts the narc’s ability to control the RF. It frustrates the narcissist to no end to lose that kind of fuel and power, and it may cause Meghan to vent her anger and frustration on Harry, who most likely in private is already the object of emotional abuse as he has probably already bern in the devaluation stage since shortly after the wedding.
Harry is very much now between a rock and a hard place. He is not able to carry out her orders as her minion because his family has hopefully frozen him out, which in turn freezes Meghan out.
My guess is Meghan will try on or more of the following to lash out at the RF, create drama, cast herself as the victim, and do something so outrageous that attempts to FORCE the RF to take notice of her and react. Any reaction will do, be it negative or positive. For example, she may seriously overstep the boundaries of selling their royal ties in an incredibly tasteless or overly commercialized manner.
Her message: YOU WILL NOT IGNORE ME!
As to the jewelry, it was said before Fauxie's birth that HM and PW had decided that 6w would not be allowed to wear any thing from the royal jewelry collection until her behavior improved. Obviously it did not.
I do not think Kate would throw shade like that--tacky she is NOT. She was raised better than that. IF she wore said earrings to the christening, it was an honest overlook IMHO.
I bet that you are right that she will do something outrageous to get attention. Perhaps she should claim to be transgender and take testosterone. (That's one of the wokest things she could do now.)
My £ is on her claiming spousal abuse.
I really hope the Oprah/Gayle/I forgot the third person wanting nothing to do with her is true. She really screwed Oprah over (although I think Oprah knew she was lying but didn't suspect the public outcry/pushback would be so hard. Frankly Oprah looks like a dick in all this (is that the right term? I'm never quite sure).
Doria. Third person was Doria which would explain why we have heard nothing or seen nothing from her in a very long time.
"The Royals often dress their children in "Hand me downs" for several reasons I suppose. The biggest is that it prevents "merching" of the children. So when George wears William or Harry's old clothes it is so that the royals are not seen as pushing a brand, like Baby Gap (although Diana was big in to Osh Kosh)."
Makes sense although it still seems a little weird to me for George to wear Harry's old clothes. (That would be seen as weird in my family, for sure.) But when have we seen other royal children dressed in their parents' old clothes? Maybe I'm just forgetting (quite possible!) but I don't recall seeing any of TQ's children dressed in their parents' old clothes (except for ceremonial garments worn by a parent like the christening gown.) And while Princess Anne is truly "The Queen of Rewears" IMO (as she rewears decades-old outfits and looks good!) I don't recall seeing photos of Zara in Anne's baby clothes.
Even though I'm the one who brought up the earrings Kate wore to the christening in this thread, I don't really think she did it intentionally to throw shade. If she had worn them intentionally, to me that would have implied a kind of "ownership" or "guardianship" of Harry and Diana's relationship that would have been very strange given that Kate never met Diana. And would seem especially odd now that we know a bit more than we did at the time about how bad the Cambridge/Sussex relationship was then. But if one is known for symbolic dressing, including wearing symbolic jewelry, I'm not sure there can be "honest overlooks" or unlikely "coincidences."
Harry wore clothes that William also wore. The embroidery and smocking suites come to mind. People are reading way too much into this. Suggest the truly curious go back and look at photos of W & H and photos of G & L. There. Also, did it every occur to anyone that 6w couldn't be trusted with heirlooms and/or why put Archie in them if he is not to be photographed (except pap shots for money).
This is dumb thing to argue about. If the child is not in public who cares what he is wearing? The 'going to school " pap shot was complete with what he was wearing....i.e. merching. only the onesie and loaded diaper in duck rabbit was an opportunity.
And remember she tried like hell to merch for H & M while on SA tour.
I get that you've decided this is a dumb point to discuss. But you are the one who stated royals "often" dress their children in "hand me downs." Do you have a link showing anyone doing that but the Cambridges?
I can easily imagine in a normal family a mom (or dad) getting upset if a SIL dressed her kids in the mom's husband's old clothes. There is sibling rivalry in lots of families and its not all about merching. It's one thing for TQ and PW to decide to limit M's access to the royal jewelry collection (personally I'm not sure that ever happened and even if it did, that would have nothing to do with Diana's personal jewelry anyway) But it would be weird as hell to limit Harry's access to his old stored clothes. And George was photographed in clothes (e.g., red shoes) that supposedly were Harry's and never were Will's.
I don't have a bit of sympathy for H&M's whining about royal hierarchy. But I do have some sympathy IF other family aspects favor W&K to an odd degree. The notion that Kate should be in charge of maintaining the Diana/Harry legacy via photographic symbolism even though she never knew Diana, H&M not being allowed to dress A in Harry's clothes... If they happened, those things would be weird IMO.
Totally agree about the 19 year old. Poor guy. Hope he recovers.
The Harkle saga is getting a little boring as of late. I do wonder if 6w thinks she can maintain interest with just sending 6 out and about. Imo, most are just not that into him as much anymore without his connection to the RF. If they were going for the movie star route to be bigger than the Cambridges they need to be in the public eye often which they aren't. Out of sight out of mind. Plus they've played all their cards. The only thing left is the merch and how is this possible wout visibilty? They better bring those children out if they want to maintain public interest.
He surprised me when he said that while in quarantine, H met with Cressida being that she is close friend with Eugenie. It was so out of the blue that I went wtf. Anyway, it was a new video cause I only heard it last Fri or Sat. Not sure if we can believe this as Cressida is/was on another hol with her Harry, as seen on her IG.
I think the viper is deciding which way to go, guided by the top 2 narc sociopath in Lala land:
- ala Jolie where the husb is an alcoholic, drug addict, not safe around children
- ala Amber Heard where husband is abusive
I think she will go the Jolie route.
Well, as for Princess Diana's jewelry, I think they were left in a will to her children. Diana had access to the crown jewels and many did not belong to her. Kate uses many of them due to her position as the future queen. So if Kate wore Diana's earring at Archie's christening and if this piece was by Princess Diana, she must have left that piece to William.Remembering that Kate's engagement ring was left to Harry. And, they say, he gave it to William. Am I right about this or not?
"The Princess not only had unfettered access to the Queen's royal collection, which she often took full advantage of, but she also amassed her own impressive trousseau, which was a combination of gifts and purchases. Many of the latter pieces were given to her sons in her will, with the express desire that Prince William and Prince Harry would share them with their wives one day"
https://www.tatler.com/gallery/every-time-the-royals-have-worn-princess-dianas-jewellery
I'm writing on a friend's tablet, and I can't figure out how to do links on it, so if I remember, when my new laptop arrives, I'll provide a link.
Concerning the handed down clothes, we oldsters here remember pure cotton sheets, and how soft they got with wear and washing. You just don't get the quality of those anymore.
So, I believe the white embroidered shirts and short trousers are family treasures that will be passed down from generation to generation. These aren't clothes from The Gap. These are handmade clothes that will last several lifetimes.
I studied kilts and kilt making for several years, and quality wool kilts are passed down from generation to generation. These are not from the tat shops that sell kilts to tourists. Those bespoke kilts are extremely valuable and a "tank", the word for an 18 oz kilt (very heavy) can run into thousands of dollars. They never wear out. It is a rite of passage to hand down your kilt to your son.
One of my kilt-making friends is a biologist, and when she went to Antartica for research, she brought along a kilt she was hand-sewing.The finished product was just beautiful. She made it for another friend of mine in the kilt community, who has the largest collection of bespoke kilts in the world. He has two rooms full of the most beautiful kilts.
Can we talk sporrans, Prince Charlies, flashes and sgian dubghs (pronounced skeen do) now?
"So if Kate wore Diana's earring at Archie's christening and if this piece was by Princess Diana, she must have left that piece to William.Remembering that Kate's engagement ring was left to Harry. And, they say, he gave it to William. Am I right about this or not?"
I don't think anyone really knows for sure what's true about "Big Blue." The story is Harry chose that ring when keepsakes were divided but later let William have it for Kate. That may or may not be true. All we know for sure is Kate was given the ring. (I always thought it was little weird for an engagement ring from a failed marriage to be passed down as an engagement ring.)
I don't think anyone is disputing whether Kate had a "right" to wear what she did to A.'s christening. No one is suggesting her access to Diana's pearl earrings wasn't legitimate. At least I know I'm not. But having the right to do something and that thing being the right thing to do aren't always the same. I'd argue they weren't the same here.
The same fact and multiple interpretations, since the truth is lacking.
I do not think Kate would throw shade like that--tacky she is NOT. She was raised better than that. IF she wore said earrings to the christening, it was an honest overlook IMHO.
Since her image was clearly edited, I'm entertaining the possibility that an image of her wearing the earrings was chosen precisely to make her look petty.
Good Night🤗
Over on LSA they are discussing the possibility of SIDS for Lili but they think it is toooooo far out there (convenient) on the back of the miscarriage, etc.
I can't remember which of the Nutties said that faking a death is so much harder than faking a birth. Officials become involved and you really do need to show a body. This would take the Harkles out of their depth very, very quickly.
Now, if one can traffic a live child, one can also presumably acquire a body. (Note: NOT kill anyone, but maybe use an existing dead body.) I'd still like to hope, however, that Harry's wife hasn't stooped to that low.
My bet is still postpartum depression and possibly another suicide attempt (while Harry was in the UK for the statue unveiling), conveniently leaked right before Prince George's birthday. The UK media may or not believe it, but Harry's wife's hope will be that Catherine will have to take interview questions about it during engagements, as she had to take a question about Baby$2 while with Mrs. Biden.
So rumor has it that Vice Pres Kamala Harris sent a friendly text to MM to ask for a pic of the little peanut! This text has not been answered.
Hilarious, if true! Hadn't Harry's wife already experienced being snubbed by high-ranking Democrats at the start of the year? Then out of the blue, a text message that could have been sent by one of us in a trolling mood!
apparently Oprah is absolutely DONE with Meghan (not necessarily Harry)
So many people have been DONE with Harry's wife, but we only get to deduce it from months of silence on the other parties' end. It's so rare these days for celebrities to be in an uncontrolled environment where they are asked uncomfortable questions. Catherine had to talk about Baby$2 during an engagement, but no one else really has to worry that they'll have to comment on the Harkles in public.
@Enbreth,
You gave me a lot to ponder in your post. I agree with you on the possibilities of their next move. To add to your possibilities, may I add "kidnapping?" It would take care of that pesky security problem (how could Charles not pay them for security after a kidnapping?) It would also put the spotlight on 6 and 6x as they did interviews,trying valiantly to get their child back.
Pixelfated
Whatever they’re plotting
they’d better be quick
The doors are closing on meg,
and her pr.ck
Selling out, the kids for a pic
Is all that’s left,
for this one phony trick
I don't see them doing something like that. Disappear by not producing pictures until forgotten I can believe. Sadly a lot of kids do this when "home schooled".
Endex
We all know right, from wrong
It didn’t take very long
To bite the hand
that regularly feeds her
We’re fed up with her lies
And her baseless, victim cries
Sod off now, Enough,
that’ll teach yer!
The photo was a master stroke from the narc. And an excellent example of projection, to boot!
Hail Hildisvini 🐗
I think the viper is deciding which way to go, guided by the top 2 narc sociopath in Lala land:
I'm sure she'd love to discard Harry following either Jolie's or Heard's playbook, but it would destroy the lovely Disney princess fantasy she tried to weave during the Oprah interview, when she literally compared herself to the Little Mermaid and said that what Harry had done for their family was "better than any fairytale." I think she hopes he will get really drunk and have an accident or overdose on drugs. A widow carries a mystique that a divorcée simply doesn't.
And can you imagine Archie recreating little John F. Kennedy, Jr.'s salute as his father's coffin goes by? I'm sure his "mother" has!
In case it isn't clear, I actually hope for the best for everyone. I'd really like Harry to get out before it's too late and issue an apology similar to Henry Roper-Curzon's. He could live quietly in England while they rehabilitate his image, so that he can appear publicly at his brother's coronation in a few decades, even if he never becomes a full-time working royal again. If there truly are children, I want them to be with loving, long-term caregivers -- the family they never had, if I may be so ironic. And if therapy or meds could help Harry's wife, I'd like that for her as well. I wish for everyone in the saga to find peace . . . including all my friends the Nutties!
You were not out of line.
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Don't know for how long everyone. Just how it has to be.
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Re: kidnapping
What would really be devious is faking a kidnapping in order to hide a real kidnapping.
There must be many biracial infant girls in the US foster system who would, for the right price, be easy to cast as the rescued "Lili."
But if this is indeed what they're planning, they have to tread extra carefully. Kidnapping and trafficking are some of the most serious criminal offenses one can commit. And I'm sure that a certain retired senior royal, whose daughters she has slighted, would love it if she were exposed for doing more or less the same thing his shady friends have been accused of doing.
The link (Cairns Post, seen in Newzit) comes with a warning: the sugars' tweets are reproduced. Sick bucket at the ready!
https://tinyurl.com/3mryhtwb
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@Enbrethiliel at 1.05 pm
Thumbs up for your post, I couldn't agree more. Well said.
@WildBoar
Thank you, for your knowledge,
and your wit. X.
Regarding Christening photo and earrings. I agree that the entire photo was faked *and* earrings deliberately included if Catherine wasn't already wearing them. For a couple hours yesterday I was searching for picture I *just* saw less than a month ago. It is Prince Philip and HM looking at a horse in same clothes and stance as when they "met" Archie. It was a side by side. Does anyone remember seeing that?
During failed search I found refresher of worst M ad/acting/commercial/thing (thanks for Rietman ad!)
https://mybuntyworld.tumblr.com/post/642115698715459584/the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-more-acting
I also came across that photo someone asked about long ago with M as kid in bedroom surrounded in Diana posters. I found it! However I think it is proven photoshop
https://64.media.tumblr.com/6ebb0bd2b2385ece35e41b4acf5d1ee1/d54973154468c250-80/s640x960/e1027c509feb9d3f9d8793dea989066100e219fc.jpg
You gave me a laugh...I was thinking your 'Brolly' was maybe british slang for underwear when I saw the little emoji (looking like panties or a thong). I thought no, but maybe?
Haha 😄 Glad it gave you a chuckle! Shame the emoji's aren't a tad larger, as I agree they're difficult to distinguish at the best of times!
https://nypost.com/2021/03/16/gofundme-to-pay-off-meghan-markle-and-harrys-mortgage-goes-bust/
Had to laugh. They raised $110 between 3 supporters. One actually gave $100. Crazy.
Even the sugars are beginning to show some sense.
"Dick" works for me! And I agree that Oprah knew that 6w was lying, but she had money and a big comeback to make. She didn't have any f**ks to give about deliberately hoodwinking the public in promulgating lies about the RF worldwide; she just cared about being called out about it because it diminished her brand.
https://nypost.com/2021/03/16/gofundme-to-pay-off-meghan-markle-and-harrys-mortgage-goes-bust/
Had to laugh. They raised $110 between 3 supporters. One actually gave $100. Crazy.
Even the sugars are beginning to show some sense.
I think the sugars are mostly paid-for trolls and bots. If the sugars were collecting money from the sugars, seems to me that 6 and 6w would be the ones paying for it. Seems counterproductive to me, but so many of the things that they do are counterproductive.
The idea of securing a dead child in order to claim a death is quite morbid but creative thinking and I like it. I am imagining them claiming SIDS or something and when the medics come the baby is three days dead.
Oh boy.
My other thought is, in a pinch, they can adopt a child from bad situations. They would then get a 3-yr old Archie with severe behavior problems and a mixed race baby who (let's imagine) may be detoxing off various substances. A complete trainwreck!
Well who knows I guess we will see.
I would like to point out Adele is pretty private and I understand she has a son and I don't think I've ever seen a picture of the kid. Does Adele's son exist? Somehow I think yes but I haven't seen him.
I have the same link you posted.
What I would love to see is her try to pass off a fully black baby and just watch the world freak out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmEAufjsmI
It's very well balanced criticism! I agree with River and the commenters who found the tone of the tweet rather rash. Prince William does sound as if he's trying to get on some trendy ideological bandwagon rather than defend the players as befitting his role as President of the Football Association. And River is right that it's "pie in the sky." Precisely how does William propose to hold the abusers accountable? By having their social media accounts deleted or sending online mobs after that? It gets a few "woke" points -- but only a few, because we have to deduct those he lost through the Harkles' insinuations. (What a sad little social media game.) In a nutshell, that tweet won't age well.
My other thought is, in a pinch, they can adopt a child from bad situations.
Precisely my thinking! They'd have an easier time trafficking a "Lili" than an Archie, though. We've never seen their daughter (if she does exist). And Harry's wife does seem to have learned something from 2019, when she paraded four or five different Archies about.
Re: Adele and her son's privacy
The first celebrity I associate with very protective parenting is Andy Samberg. We don't even know his daughter's name! And well, we don't really need to, do we? Samberg's fans respect his stance not just because he's her father, but also because he doesn't play sneaky, teasing photo games with them, saying he wants privacy but then acting otherwise.
It would be easy for the people in the UK, testing here before any more money to you.
And, what would be interesting would be to have testing done on both sides of the pond. One public and the other legally but not made known.
And yes I am absolutely determined that Lili must be visibly mixed race or Meghan loses her trump card.
What I would love to see is her try to pass off a fully black baby and just watch the world freak out.
Yep. In the immortal words of the late professional baseball player Oscar Gamble "They don't think it be like it is but it do."
Was posted previously -- https://blindgossip.com/spinning-the-freeze-out/ -- Spinning The Freeze Out
JULY 12, 2021 BLIND GOSSIP 90 COMMENTS
Why did William single out the racists but no mention o the yobs who attacked Italian fans and destroyed everything in sight, who stormed the stadium in order to get in free, etc? Aren't these actions just as destructive? Or are these actions acceptable in England? (I am beginning to think so)
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So the silence from Monetecito - at first I thought well maybe they are holding back so the Lilibets$ pic will bring renewed interest, push the brand whatever. But then I thought, she cant be silent for long, its not her style. Now I am thinking there are some serious things going on with them. No baby? trying to secure one? $$$ troubles, divorce narrative starting? something weird is going on and I cant figure it out. In the meantime if i see one more pap pic of Catherine Zeta Jones in resort caftan..... clearly the paps need work, why are they not out in montecito?
So, things are no all copacetic in Moneycito? Goodness, WHAT a shame. At first, I thought Harry had killed her and hidden her body before he left for London. Maybe she was in a large trunk that was in the baggage compartment on the plane and was subsequently unloaded and disposed of. Maybe Doria did the deed while he was gone. Or, wait, wasn't Doria spotted picking up some of 6w's belongings from Gayle King's place? It was Gayle and Oprah what dunnit! (Shouldn't have crossed Oprah. She didn't get to the top of a cut-throat profession without being proficient with the knife to the back.)
/Just kidding. I'm hoping that she has to work out her debt to the cartels, or the Russian mafia. Maybe Jill Biden was so taken with Catherine that she had her kidnapped and set on the ground in Afghanistan in California Casual Slut Clothes after the last troops were loaded as a BFF thing. Maybe Kamala was *really* pissed about the no baby pics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F5NiWiQ9c
I was reading about the situation in South Africa and it sounds very worrying. Hope our SA Nutties are OK, all the best to you. Take care x
Why did William single out the racists but no mention o the yobs who attacked Italian fans and destroyed everything in sight, who stormed the stadium in order to get in free, etc?
Prince William didn't comment on the other examples of bad behavior because British royals (at least based on the Queen's template) generally don't comment on any bad behavior. That he broke that unwritten tradition for one specific type of behavior that tends to grab headlines these days makes him look as desperate to be "relevant" as his sister-in-law. Sad to say.
I also agree with SwampWoman's reading of the situation:
@SwampWoman
I think PW is overcompensating in the opposite direction due to the accusations of racism against the RF and by extension, himself.
Another sad part is that he set himself up here. His tweet made it really easy for Harkle supporters to call him out on "hypocrisy." Had he said nothing about the hot-button issue, but instead made it about his support for individual players who were in a high-pressure situation, for the whole team, and for English football in general, well, the worst is that he would have come off as bland.
July isn't his month, is it? At least not this year.
The Okra interview with #6 and 6W has been nominated for an Emmy. Cannot confirm the category.
If it was not so pathetic, it would be funny.
swamp woman. love it!! can’t see 6 getting his hands dirty on that. had to be doria. or princess anne. where is princess anne these days? nah. princess anne would ha b-slapped her publicly and not in private 😉
Well, if Doria would off her own dad*, why not an ungrateful, verbally-abusive daughter?
*It was actually the dog (wink wink).
https://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees-winners/2021/outstanding-informational-series-or-special
I agree with you reply to Girl with a Hat but as President of The Football Association, William had to say something. I don't think he could have stayed silent.
Queen? That’s my best guess.