Meghan Markle hasn't been getting many wins lately with much more negative press, getting snubbed by the Obamas, and heralding her 40th birthday with a 40 x 40 women's work campaign that took off like a lead ballon. Princess Eugenie seems to be in her and Harry's corner and perhaps she can look forward to winning 2021's "Grifter of the Year" award. Today as of 8:53 AM EST, she's #1 on Griftie's nominee list.
You can vote here: https://grifties.com .
Let's discuss this and more.
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I'm not sure how grifters & hustlers differ. Is it an either/or situation or can someone be both?
I thought they were pretty much the same.
Grifter... person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
Hustler... one who obtains money by fraud or deceit : scammer, swindler
I have absolutely no idea whether Grifter and Hustler are the same or even slightly different. I personally don’t use either word, I’m just repeating what Lady C said. 😁
I scrolled down to 83 on the list. Some of the entries were hilarious (like "My Husband's Ex-Wife," currently at 57) and the Grifties have a long way to go before they reach the prestige of the Razzies. Yet I'm fond of polls like this, which serve as mirrors of public opinion. (Obviously, some mirrors are better than others.) To see that "normies" overwhelmingly share our thoughts on Harry's wife is always a pleasant surprise.
But one slang meaning of the word "hustler" is prostitute. Other slang meanings do refer to making gains by deceit. But a non-slang meaning is less negative--hustler can mean a person who is a "go-getter" or "determined to succeed."
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hustler
Hustler
People who are forced to use their Brains to make it in this world.
They outsmart the smart, cunning, and has streetsmarts. They know how to get money and is skilled at doing it to. Also they can be so sly that they can sell you stuff you don't need.
1. Nine To Five Job.
2. Working in A Strip Club
3. Drug Dealers
4. Selling fake Designer Purses in front of stores
5. "I'm a Hustla I can sell Salt To an Slug", verse by Cassidy
Grifter
A Grifter, is somebody who can influence anybody, anywhere, at anytime, into doing whatever they choose to have them do, that will result in the grifter's personal gain. Usually monetary, but really anything that benefits him or her somehow.
It's absolutely NOT all of these technical things that puts this person in a specific box or particular "genre" of criminal. This person can literally become anyone or anything they want to. Not necessarily sociopathic, but I'm sure it helps to be dead inside. Learning other people and how they react to any given situation is a must, because that is the core of what a grifter is: a student of human behavior. And once they have that mastered, the world is their playground.
Con artist, scam artist, Only a real grifter will leave a person thinking that they achieved exactly what they wanted to get out of whatever endeavor was initiated by the grifter. I read other definitions and people said things like "they don't have a home of their own and they move around from place to place"... I'm sure this CAN be true, in some circumstances. But again,
You cannot pigeonhole a real grifter. They can be whoever they want to be, and that includes a person who has a normal life,
In their own home. Someone has been watching way too many movies, and the stylized depiction of a "professional" con artist, is way way too romantic for what happens in the real world. Grifter's are operators that are on the highest level of running the con game on people.
Here's the traditional definitions of hustler and grifter from Merriam Webster Dictionary:
Hustler-
a person who hustles: such as
a: one who obtains money by fraud or deceit : SCAMMER, SWINDLER
A financial hustler who orchestrated the theft of $6.5 million from investors …
— Shayna Jacobs and Alec Tabak
… most of the eight major frauds Minkow helped uncover in the past year have involved hustlers trying to sell investments to church groups.
— Adam Zagorin
b: one who lures less skillful players into competing at a gambling game
a pool hustler
This is where the chess hustlers have seized their opportunity. Camped out at the picnic tables in Harvard Square, these seasoned locals will play with you—for a price.
— Evan Zigmond
c: an athlete who plays with alert energy and aggressiveness
By always being the teacher's pet, by being a hustler in football practice and by being the fringe member of many social groups but the leader of none, Kelly managed to mask his insecurities.
— Michael Reese
d: PROSTITUTE
a male hustler
"Beat" is old carny slang. According to Beat Movement legend … , Ginsberg and Kerouac picked it up from a character named Herbert Huncke, a gay street hustler and drug addict from Chicago who began hanging around Times Square in 1939 …
— Louis Menand :
Grifter-transitive verb
to obtain (money or property) illicitly (as in a confidence game)
intransitive verb
to acquire money or property illicitly
Other Words from grift
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I think it's safe to say TBW fits all of the above, though many people including Lady C and Piers Morgan has come out and said in public- on TV from America and UK- she is a narcissist/psychopath.
@xxxxx wrote:
'"She lived on three cans of solid white albacore tuna in water daily PLUS salads and cooked vegetables. Obviously zero bread, pasta and other starches. The three cans of tuna were pretty much the only animal protein she ate while losing the poundage..."
I hope your sister continues to do well. But nothing is simple. Eating just one can of tuna daily even for a temporary "diet" (especially albacore) invites mercury poisoning.
She is perfectly OK no mercury poisoning.
BUT
Even more cool is that when you are thin and healthy and your liver and kidneys are working well.... You will excrete all toxins lots better including mercury. So getting mercury overload by eating lots of certain fish, does not apply equally to all people.
Of course liver/kidneys are your foremost organs for blood filtration and toxin excretion...
I believe swordfish is on the mercury list?
"Overall, larger and longer-lived fish tend to contain the most mercury (4). These include shark, swordfish, fresh tuna, marlin, king mackerel, tilefish from the Gulf of Mexico, and northern pike (5). Larger fish tend to eat many smaller fish, which contain small amounts of mercury."
@XXXXX,
Thanks for the info. Of course, a 20-year old's body is different from a 60-year old's. And there are fish that are worse for mercury than tuna. But everything I've read says not to eat any kind of tuna every day, and albacore while higher in some good things is worse for mercury. As a larger fish, it has almost 3 times as much mercury as the "light tuna" species. So eating 3 cans a day of albacore for months seemed worrisome as a diet plan. But I'm glad she's doing well.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/306246
A hustler gives you something for your money. They hustle up opportunities for themselves. Sometimes overpriced opportunities. But you get something out of it. They sell you an overpriced item or service.
A grifter gives you nothing for your money. It's a donation on your part. You give them something and they give you nothing.
Hustler - had its own magazine
Grifter - did not
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Perhaps M/H brought this up in their Royal discussions before Megxit.
I'm sure they did -- because the oft-repeated sugar talking point at the time was: "What about Prince Andrew?" And there was at least one huffy reference to the Yorks setting "precedent" in the manifesto.
Again I must wonder why Princess Eugenie decided to support "dear Megan" so publicly.
Do you mean that she'll try to portray the Obamas as a new set of bullies? I wouldn't put it past her . . . but gosh, wouldn't it be stupid of her?
She might do it because she thinks she has nothing more to lose among the "elite," but then she'd be sunk in the court of public opinion. The Obamas may be very divisive, but those who like them really like them. And those who don't like them already dislike the Harkles as well.
One article in the previous thread said that Michelle Obama was unpleasantly surprised to have to field a question about the Harkles in one of her interviews. Her response was basically word salad -- but the main thing is that it was non-committal. I don't think she'd appreciate a repeat of that moment, especially if she'd have to be on the defensive.
Oh, man, now I really want Mrs. H to poke this dragon! Naughty me . . .
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my definition:
Hustler - had its own magazine
Grifter - did not
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I love your handle. I'm snarky too but it doesn't work for me here. 😆
Oh dear - daily mail has an article by an expert that 6s wife has a calm and soothing voice perfect for podcasts/ At first I rolled my eyes but then I thought well, this will make the leap to where are their podcasts for spotify? Is this a brf pr reminder that she hasnt fulfilled her contractual obligations for spotify? or is this her attempt to get a separate contract away from the juggler.
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I saw the article this morning too! It was a few days back before this article existed that I asked the question here if the way MM speaks in this video is the same way she speaks to H. IMO she is using a fake voice not her natural one in the video and has a totally different voice when she speaks to H. She seems like a screamer to me.....
Nothing about TBW's scams strikes me a `petty', nothing like pinching postage stamps out of the petty cash tin. It's all been on a grand scale, conning an entire nation, defaming the majority, grabbing millions of pounds of dosh, to say nothing of treating her in-laws with cruel contempt.
Before, I was reluctant to call her evil but I have no hesitation now.
LL - yes I am snarky, i need outlets for my snark because it is so much more than one household can handle ;-)
I have to read this article; sounds like a doozy!
barbra streisand talkng about prince charles courting her before diana.
Babs was a huge star in the 1970s, at the very same time Chas was a royal bachelor-about-town. She always did have a nice bod. But surely if Chas 'courted' her, it was for some Hollywood playtime, not because he thought he could really bring her home to Mummy. The Crown heir was never going to be permitted to marry 'an Actress' or out of his faith, either. As for narcissistic wokeness, we've got the template for #6w right here, albeit with talent which #6w doesn't have a drop of. Babs is aces at ghosting people she's done with; for a very interesting read, find a copy of "Barbra & Me: A Love Story" by Barry Dennen. Barry was the older (by three years) man with connections in the theatre world of New York City whom 17-year-old Barbara (as was) attached herself to and shacked up with in Greenwich Village in the early '60s. Barry became her manager/agent, stagecraft coach, her arranger for her early nightclub acts in the Village; he and his friend, a makeup artist and costume designer crafted her look--hair, clothes, makeup--and taught her how to be a stage performer. The raw talent of the voice she always had, but before working with Barry, she didn't even have a clue how to hold a microphone or move on stage. Barry was her manager, her sugar daddy and also her lover, briefly, but he was gay as it turned out and going through a confused period. But he genuinely loved her, and was devastated when she moved out without a single word of explanation right after she scored her first Broadway success in a supporting role in "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying"--the role that would lead directly to her starmaking turn in "Funny Girl". Barry was instrumental in creating "Barbra Streisand (the suggestion to drop the other 'A' from her name was also his)--and she dumped him without a backward glance.
Once, 25 years later, he saw her on a New York street in her stretch limo while he was walking his dog and wrote that she stared right at him without a single glimmer of acknowledgement.
All of these people deserve each other. Meg is cut from a template prevalent in that shallow world. It's just that her lack of native talent or much in the way of physical attributes makes her stick out a mile as a wanna-be. If she was a better actress with some awards to her credit, she'd blend right in.
I saw her show twice once with Tom Cruise jumping on the couch and once with John Travolta. But looking back on her journey I remember the time in the early 90's when liquid diets were the newest fad at the time.
OW really slimmed down on it. I worked with women who did it too and it always worked temporarily and the weight came right back on.
I realize the topic has already been discussed and you nutties have already moved on to a new one, but yesterday I had a cortisone injection in my wrist so I had no feeling in my hand for the rest of the day. Today is the first time I finally got the feelings back in my fingers.
It's really hard for me to keep up here with all of you because I have carpel tunnel in both wrists and this is my last resort before I have to seek a surgeon, but it's difficult for me to write so I'm hoping these shots work for a while before I have to face a knife.
O/T - I know this site has asked a few times to change the topic of PA and I will only mention this once and I'm done. It's really about Ghislane Maxwell. For the American nutties here, I watched a three part documentary on her. It was on the Oxygen channel for those interested. It starts from her as a child to where she is today. It was interesting, worthy of a watch. I'm sure there will be repeats or on demand availability.
https://wikidiff.com/grifter/hustler
HUSTLER
English
Noun
(en noun)
One who hustles: especially somebody who pretends to be an amateur at a game in order to win bets.
A pimp.
A prostitute.
A male prostitute who sells his services to men.
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GRIFTER
English
Noun
(en noun)
A con man. Someone who pulls confidence games.
:1939 . "We're all grifters. So we sell each other out for a nickel". The Big Sleep .
:1958 . "That was the train the drunks and the sinners rode—the gambling men and the grifters, the big-time spenders, the skirt-chasers, and all the jolly crew". That Hell-Bound Train .
This is useful but a little old-fashioned, I think, to say a 'hustler' is only selling sex.
I think of the difference thusly:
A hustler deals in short cons. They will smooth-talk and lie to you to get you to part with your money for a fake Fendi or a phantom beachfront condo or a Ponzi scheme. Their aim is to get your money upfront. These relationships are short-term by necessity, since a victim will soon catch on that he/she's been ripped off, but by then the hustler is on to new marks.
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A grifter, on the other hand, is into the long con. They may take months/years to build up a mark's trust enough to get named executor of an estate . .or get down the aisle. Their aim is much larger: not just a quick pay-out but the whole caboodle. They craft entire fake lives, resumes, children? in support of their narrative, and they are in it for the long haul.
If Meg had accepted the initial payout from the RF pre-wedding to Go Away, she'd have been considered a hustler. Short-term investment for a quick and easy reward. She didn't.
Grifter, writ large.
JG--have you looked into transcription software that would allow you to dictate messages instead of typing? That's what I do most often on my phone. It's not perfect and sometimes the results are unintentionally hilarious but correcting typos would be easier on your hands than having to type the whole thing.
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@Elspeth
I know the topic has moved on and we have a new post, but just one final comment about Big O.
When Oprah was a teenager, she was actually a contestant in the Miss Mississippi beauty pageant, and she was tiny. There was no evidence of a huge frame at that time. She admitted later that she starved herself to be at her pageant weight, as do most of those girls, I imagine. She started to gain weight once leaving University and going to work as a broadcaster. When she started her local talk show in Chicago, she was plus sized, but probably half the size she is now. When she had gotten up to 267 pounds and realized that she was the same weight as Mike Tyson, heavyweight champion of the world, that’s when she went on her crazy liquid fast diet, getting down to 120 pounds and a size 8 and wheeling her equivalent in fat out in a wagon on her show. Very swiftly, within months much of that weight had returned. Of course, because for six or eight months she hasn’t been eating solid food. Other less extreme diet have followed through the years, where she will drop some weight, But it never lasts. Based on her size currently, she probably wishes she were 267 again.
I used to watch the show the biggest loser, which highlighted the fact that people who are chronically extremely heavy, and have issues with overeating are not merely suffering from physical and metabolic issues, though most heavy people will claim that they have a sluggish thyroid or similar That prevents them from losing weight, without addressing their daily big Mac habit Or the fact that they routinely eat an entire chocolate cake at a sitting. Comfort eating can often be a mask for emotional trauma. O has been open about being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and becoming impregnated and losing that baby. The little girl that grew up in an environment of poverty and abuse is still inside the morbidly obese celebrity with the billions of dollars and the fancy wardrobe. At 67 years of age, Oprah is not going to become a thin person. She hasn’t dealt with her past, despite talking about it endlessly, and I doubt she ever will because she is looking for reconciliation and peace in the wrong places. She’s not right with God, choosing to worship her self and hedonism instead. She’s got the money to have all the best in clothes, cosmetic procedures, beauty beauty treatments to be well turned out even heavy. But the fact is I can’t bear to look at her anymore, for the same reason I can’t stand to look at Harry’s wife...They are both Self promoting liars lacking a moral core. So whatever problems their lifestyle choices bring upon themselves, in my view they deserve them.
She has often used the term Hustler when describing MM, always in the context of not one to sit around for opportunities, she will go out and get what she wants.
Sort of like what she did in order to nail her husband. She found the place, the people, and circumstances to get in with the right crowd in order to find that rich man. Not sure if it started out as she was chasing after H.
According to many here, she had Prince William in her sites as he fell directly into her age group. So I don't know if her original target was H or in a general way a rich man.
But if nothing else can be said of her, she did her homework and the foot work in order to nab H.
While it has some great features, it hurts my wrists and I usually only use it for the map app. I don't use it for this site at all. My phone does have that translation app and I do use it for texting, but again the phone is too heavy for my hands.
At the moment I have the feeling back in my fingers and I don't feel pain in my wrist, but the pain in my fingers is now back, but my biggest concern is my wrists so I'm happy so far. It's only been 24 hours.
(Lady C) has often used the term Hustler when describing MM, always in the context of not one to sit around for opportunities, she will go out and get what she wants.
Sort of like what she did in order to nail her husband. She found the place, the people, and circumstances to get in with the right crowd in order to find that rich man. Not sure if it started out as she was chasing after H.
But if nothing else can be said of her, she did her homework and the foot work in order to nab H.
#6w certainly hustled for her opportunities. If she'd taken the payoff money offered before the wedding, or else agreed to a quickie divorce and settlement by now, I'd keep her in the 'hustler' category . . maximizing *quick* payouts is a hustler specialty. But she's got so many guns going at once . . there's the Racial discrimination con, the mental health con, the 'caring humanitarian' con, the 'vulnerable young mother'con--complete with what many (including myself) argue are completely fictitious children . . and she's dug her claws in for the long haul. She has systematically destroyed H's reputation and autonomy and now has her sights on attacking, discrediting and dismantling the reputation and peace of mind of the entire royal house. This is way beyond 'Hustler'. A hustler is far more likely to cut bait and find other victims once she comes under suspicion or has too many questions asked. Grifters are going to double down on their fake-crafted identities and stories because they believe they can pull it off. It's not just money she wants, though she is very materialistic--she wants power, influence and global icon status. So she is doggedly going to cling to this vision because she's got so much invested in it.
Also I think a significant piece is that 'hustlers' most often work alone on their short-term cons, while grifters, with their more complex, long-standing cons often employ associates to play their parts in the success of the enterprise. #6w has many cohorts--Marcus A., Doria, any celebrities which have attached themselves to the SuxSixes in any capacity. She's got a whole grifting empire going on.
I've known both in my lifetime, unfortunately. I consider the long term game with Hustlers is your term game as Grifter, although I've found these duplicitous people can be intermixed. They can run short and long term games when it suits them.
In terms of MM herself, she seems to play both sides. She is notorious for ghosting those who no longer of any help to her long term plans. But she can also maintain the long term plan if it is considered useful in her plans.
Having children with H is her long term plan. Using people and tossing them away is her short term plan.
But she seems to be in trouble now, knowing not only the humiliation of not getting invited to a party with the movers and shakers of the political and celebrity world.
Her failure of a skit with Melissa McCarthy for her own birthday, not only hightlights what a fake she is, but that she carries no real clout. I believe a few days ago the number was something like 200 of her sugars signed on to the 40x40 initiative.
I also think she may find herself stuck with H because she isn't getting any younger. Those eligible rich men aren't looking for a 40+ year old woman on a mission to destroy the RF and has already destroyed her own family. She's snake venom in that world of men now. They know too much about her.
Great comment (above) @ Hikari one which I totally agree with too.😃
http://www.word-detective.com/2008/08/grifter/
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According to my millennial adult children, the word hustler means drug dealer, to hustle means to sell drugs.
When I was coming of age in the 70's, when we used the word hustle, we meant to move your ass, be quick, get it done. Perhaps the dance the Hustle was creating based on this definition.
It's interesting how words from my youth now mean something entirely different much to the embarrassment of said adult children. To finger someone meant to rat them out (point the finger in their direction), thongs were rubber flip flop like sandals, straight meant you didn't do drugs etc. It was when I said I needed to hustle-to get some chore done- my younger adult child laughed and asked if I was dealing now...
Needless to say, I now use old school phrases with caution.
The other thing which differentiates #6w from others of her ilk (the hustling/grifting ilk) is that her mental health/psychological grasp of reality is questionable. As is her emotional maturation status. She can look pulled together in a highly produced glossy segment, but she simply cannot sustain for any significant length of time the facade of a polished, highly educated, sophisticated international humanitarian. That's what she 'wants' to be. In reality, she's an emotionally stunted person who is stuck at the level of charitably, an 8th grade girl. An incredibly stubborn, completely narcissistic 14-year-old who is adamant that her fantasy vision of her life is going to come true.
I think most con artists of either stripe know exactly what they are and what they are doing. Ie. are tethered in reality. The facades of success which they present to the world and to potential marks are part of their branding, but there is a separate interior reality that they don't lose sight of. Increasingly I feel like MM has totally bought into her own PR, or rather, uses her own PR to prop up her completely absent sense of self. This is shared by Harry as well, perhaps to a slightly lesser extent with him, but so profound is the sense of perpetual grievance these two cart around with them that I think they actually have convinced themselves to a large extent that they have actually been that persecuted. It becomes not only easier but also necessary to double-triple-quadruple down on their own version of 'reality' because without it they really are nothing and nowhere.
A typical con artist will be fully aware of how his/her presentation 'for business' diverges from his/her real self, but I'm thinking the Harkles have lost the ability to distinguish the two, if they ever actually had it. That's why I think the continual pity party and increasingly horrible allegations will never stop with them. Their mutual mental health issues mean that whatever they try their hand at is doomed to long-term failure, even if it makes a lot of noise in the short-term.
Frankly I am very surprised that, having fired all the other guns in her arsenal she hasn't tried out the 'sexual harassment' one. Imagine what lobbing the grenade of 'Charles/William (or both) sexually assaulted me. Because I'm Black and they wanted to do it with a Black woman. In fact, it was a three-way, and both of them said racially insensitive things about the color of my skin and my hair texture and so forth while they were abusing me."
That'd be subterranean low . . but what a way to hurt both Kate and Camilla, not to mention their husbands. I won't rule this tactic out, especially if she doesn't get that high-profile invite to the Jubilee next year.
Just so you know, the surgery for Carpel Tunnel Syndrome is a piece of cake. One of those "why did I wait so long to get this done" type of things. Sore wrist/hand for a week to 10 days then you are good to go. Got mine done 6 months apart as you do not want to be unable to dress yourself!
Another term she has used to describe madam is "an operator, par excellence".
Merriam-Webster's definition of operator:
"a shrewd and skillful person who knows how to circumvent restrictions or difficulties".
Par excellence means better or more than all others of the same kind.
Just so you know, the surgery for Carpel Tunnel Syndrome is a piece of cake. One of those "why did I wait so long to get this done" type of things. Sore wrist/hand for a week to 10 days then you are good to go. Got mine done 6 months apart as you do not want to be unable to dress yourself!
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Thanks for being one person with a positive result. I've had this for several years now and everyone I have talked to had nothing good to say about it, hence my apprehension.
But it was back in late 2018 I was in my first car accident, a fender bender really. I gripped the steering wheel as if my life depended on it. I wasn't even going 5 miles per hour, but I still did it. Having never been in a accident before I had no idea what I should do in those circumstances.
Both my wrists are even worse than what they were. But your positive experience makes me feel less anxious if I get to that point. I just know it's progressing and if I continue waiting I will lose my ability to use both of my hands.
@Jersey Girl
I am very surprised to hear that so many people you have talked to have had negative experiences. I have had probably 10 to 12 friends/co-workers who also had the surgery and had no problems and that is what encouraged me to go ahead and get it over with. It has always been viewed as a very minor procedure with no negatives as relief is pretty much a given, although to somewhat different percentages of improvement to different people. Happy to answer any questions you may want to ask me.
Social Climber
https://youtu.be/Fv0V3zWxfHA
I think Lady C. is very astute but I question her assessment of #6w as “A shrewd and skillful operator par excellence”.
I find Lady C and other commentators like her to be very hesitant—with cause, considering how litigious the Suxsixes are—to discuss TW’s probable psychological disorders and how they manifest, including the potentially fake pregnancies/children. Everybody has to tiptoe around these topics since any official medical diagnoses are not in the public domain.
TW is relentless. But any “skill” was mostly a combination of luck—living in Toronto At the precise time Soho house was opening there And being pushy enough to climb onto the social set Of which Eugenie was a part, and being willing to sell herself however she needed to. Bulldozing her way into parties and other social events where she actually wasn’t officially invited Isn’t skillful either, but it could be considered a form of shrewdness. Little Rachel learned early that she could manipulate people into giving her what she wanted By simply refusing to acknowledge social norms, Like politeness. Other better bred people will give in and tolerate her rather than make scenes. This is what she banks on.
Let’s face it, if she were really that tremendously shrewd and a skillful player, she’d Be charming everyone and certainly would’ve gotten an invite to Obama’s birthday party. Sharp eyed viewers smelled a rat about her in the engagement interview, in fact then we’d only known her name for a few weeks. That’s not skillful; she showed her true ugly raw self-serving colors almost immediately. If she snowed anybody it was H, but he’s always been dumb and selfish too. No grade school was required to get him into the sack, or collect compromising information to force him down the aisle. Rachel didn’t have to be skilled When she knew she always had the incendiary device of the biracial card. She’s been exploiting that for years. That’s as shrewd if she gets.
I very much agree with you and was throwing in that other description of madame to add flavor.
Lady C has to be careful, as a public figure and having taken others to court over things published about her, she is more than familiar with libel. She did discuss illegitimacy several weeks ago and later I noticed that she had edited that portion out.
Lady C wrote a book several years ago about Lily Safra which had to be pulped, I suspect out of caution because of legal action taken/suggested by LS. She then came out with Empress Bianca which was loosely based on LS's life though not mentioning her by name. The biographer Isabel Vincent wrote Gilded Lily: Lily Safra: The Making of One of the World's Wealthiest Widows which was published in the US. Vincent's biography was quite amazing, suggesting that LS mercenarily had something to do with the deaths of two of her husbands.
HR Tudor has suggested that #6W is a mid-range narcissist. Mid-rangers are not aware of their condition. If she were a narcissist of the highest order she would be very self-aware and much more skillful in the way that she manipulates, as you described in your last paragraph. She would have more fans and fewer detractors.
I just wonder what Lady C meant in her video from several days ago when she described that Harry had NO balls down south. Does she mean that his testicles have not descended or does he not have the balls to stand up to his wife?
Any ideas?
Hikari, thanks for the link to Taz. That was interesting. The wife was the shiny penny for a short while, and now no one cares.
The wife did not celebrate her birthday with all her good friends: the Fosters; the Ohanians; Heidi Klum; Ed Enniful; Tyler Perry; Oprah; Gayle; Misha; Jessica; Chrissy Tiegen; JayZ and Beyonce.
My SIL is a small-time grifter. She does live-in home health care for the elderly, and sucks up to them big time hoping for a payout, or to be in the will when they die. She's gotten a couple of tokens of money, but nothing big time, cause she's not smart enough to play it hard.
just wonder what Lady C meant in her video from several days ago when she described that Harry had NO balls down south. Does she mean that his testicles have not descended or does he not have the balls to stand up to his wife?
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Maybe it means he literally has no balls or, testicular agenesis. He can still have facial hair and low voice, just no way to reproduce with that birth defect.
Lady C is an expert on these types of disorders. Recently she hinted about TBW not being fully female soooo why not?
We can speculate that maybe they met at some type of hush hush support group for celebrities.
A stretch, I know.
A stretch, I know.
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Well, that could explain a lot. Not out of the realm of possibilities.
She sure seemed frantic during the engagement interview that H was going to spill the beans on how they met. Remember how she started frantically clawing at him and speaking over him?
I do remember her strange behavior during that interview. They both were nervous but his was more giddy, she came across as phoney, like she was auditioning for a part. I never felt that they were relaxed, in love and calm with each other. Their energy as a couple has always come across as frenetic to me. At the time I never thought they were covering up some dark secrets. Now I think it *is possible...
Whatever the truth is, he perhaps literally and certainly figuratively, is lacking his gonads. I think she wears them along with his 👖!
I don’t go OT very often, but figured I’d chip in my two cents’ worth about carpal tunnel surgery.
I have had it on both wrists several years apart and both came out great. My carpal tunnel was from being hit by a drunk driver is two separate collisions several years apart. I was hit hard from behind when I was at a stoplight waiting for it to change. Both times I saw them coming and grabbed the steering wheel. In one wreck the right wrist was injured and in the second wreck, the left wrist was damaged.
My advice is to look for a board certified surgeon who specializes in the hand, shoulder and elbow. They should be able to do a carpal tunnel release easily. I used arnica gel on the incision after the initial healing took place to help with the scar. It is a small scar. I have worked at a computer for several years and do not have any problems. But you may want to wear a wrist brace for support the first couple of weeks.
My best advice is to do your homework and get someone who has lots experience with wrist procedures when choosing your surgeon.
The procedure only takes a few minutes and is unusually done with a local anesthesia. You will need someone to drive you.
the Oprah interview would have been better with more rings of truth in it (and no Megs, those are not for sale!) She could tell how she was pulled into a life of yachting, preyed on by desperate older men, powerful men, blackmailed into keeping it going. Maybe allude to a royal encounter, then harry saved her and the family knew she had a past and always treated her like dirt and they had to leave. "No one understood the trust issues i have after all these years" but alas, that woudl show weakness of some sort and she would never show her vulnerable side.
This is actually a really good angle. She'd be even more of a Cinderella, with Harry swooping in to save her out of love, not carrying about a past that she was pressured into having. Unfortunately, his family wasn't as enlightened as he, with Prince Andrew being especially hypocritical. It would still be honking lies, of course, but it might have kept her sympathetic for a bit longer. We're getting really fed up with the race card, but a vulnerable young woman can still tug at our heartstrings somewhat.
I think she knows the BRF have the good on her and havent used them if she makes up anything more damning and not these subtle suggestions she knows they could release it all, harry be damned.
If she followed the above scenario and admitted to things in her past, she'd take this trump card away from everyone who has it. She'd be putting her misdeeds in the prettiest possible light, of course, but after she reveals them herself, anyone else trying to use them against her would look bad.
There was a Blind Gossip item recently about a celebrity (most likely Matt Damon) who used this strategy. He had been caught using a slur and realized he was in danger of being canceled for it. So he got ahead of the news by admitting publicly that he had used it until recently, but that his daughters had finally helped him see the light. That was smart. Accepting short-term damage for long-term gains. But Harry's wife has never really thought long-term, not even where her supposed children are concerned.
Thank you, Hikari, I agree it's a very worthwhile watch.
Cheers Nutties, much appreciated 😘
Apologies: Tom Tom the Piper’s Son
Tom Long Gone
Tom Tom the vipers dad
Tried his best, but was surely had
His daughter turned, as cheap meat
And Tom was ghosted, tout de suite
Hints of ‘off meat’ and ‘rotisserie’😉
Thanks for telling us about it, @Hikari. I agree with @WBBM that it's worth watching.
Taz outlines four broad phases in Mrs. H's life, based on how she positioned herself. First, the sexy starlet phase. Second, the Africa-loving humanitarian phase, which was necessary to snag Mr. H. Third, the inexperienced and badly treated royal wife phase, a set-up for Megxit. And now we're seeing her Real Housewife of Montecito phase, which does seem to be her "real" self at long last. She has "found freedom" from the Suitsproducers who wanted to write her character off the show, from the U.N. Women organizers who had no idea she'd be a one-and-done hustler, from the raycissssss British Royal Family, and of course, from her own family. Surely she is using all this freedom to be herself at last . . .
I'm not sure how much Taz knows about narcissism, but she has chronicled the modus operandi of a true narc. Narcs show you whatever face they need to show you, in order to get what they want. And as more and more faces are revealed to be masks, you reasonably wonder who they truly are underneath all of them. What happens when there are no more masks? Will we ever meet the person whom the narc actually is inside?
The chilling reality is that there is no true self. A narc is simply a pit that goes down and down into the darkness, with no bottom. As soon as Mrs. H figures out that her current mask isn't getting the desired results, she will discard it and find something else to put on. And I have a hunch that this is about to happen soon.
Losing out on an invitation to Obama's birthday bash would have sent Harry's wife a very clear message. A year and a half of hard work, making Zoom calls, "shining a light," pretending to have a miscarriage, pretending to be black, and courageously bashing the BRF for not being woke enough . . . All of that was not enough to convince the Obama's clique that she was one of them. And then her 40x40 initiative, which she must have hoped would make her seem as connected with the American a-list as she'd like to be, revealed how much of a c-lister she still is. The mask is not only failing to work, but it's also being laughed at. This must feel intolerable.
Any predictions for what face she's going to put on next? New physical nose optional!
I agree with everything in your 12:32 pm comment
And now we're seeing her Real Housewife of Montecito phase, which does seem to be her "real" self at long last. She has "found freedom" from the Suitsproducers who wanted to write her character off the show, from the U.N. Women organizers who had no idea she'd be a one-and-done hustler, from the raycissssss British Royal Family, and of course, from her own family. Surely she is using all this freedom to be herself at last . . .
TBW as a Real Housewife of Montecito is her fantasy but not her true level. She is still having to plan, manipulate , act out a character that she is not. It must be exhausting for her; she must be exhausting. They have two little ones under the age of 2.5 years which by itself is exhausting although I do recognize they have nannies. Ironic that Harry is replicating his childhood and all that “genetic” pain. Stress
They have less than six months to get their Archewell trademark papers in order or lose it. More stress. They have Spotify and Netflix breathing down their necks for content. Stress. (I believe Spotify will just ask for their $$$ back.). Harry has BetterUp that he needs to fulfill his contractual requirements whatever they are. Stress. Oprah declined being Lili’s godmother and is probably declining their calls. Stress. Oprah interview shown to be full of lies and half truths. Stress. 40x40 video went down like a lead balloon. Stress. No invite to Obama’s party which was broadcasted to all in the press. Stress. Taxes, salaries, Harry’s a tight wad, Heckled by patrons in a Montecito bar….the list goes on and on.
I don’t think TBW is happy. She is working harder than she has ever hustled before and she is not seeing the results. Plus Harry is a non starting lug , he’s no help. Yup, What a web we weave when we practice to deceive.
Do Nutties think the 6s will ask to return to the fold when the timing is right?
@Enbrethiliel
Knowing megs love of all things retro,
I’ll take a stab and suggest
“women can have it all”
A successful career, happy family,
a desperation for fame.
The fact she doesn’t work,
and isn’t a mother, won’t stop madam.
Preaching life balance, out sourcing,
pliable partner, and a mountain
of avocados, and bananas,
not to mention unearned $,
will ensure Family Harmony.
Archewell will be replaced with
Ihaveitall, for now…
@Maneki
Just the off cuts…
@Maneki
Just noticed your photo,
hahaha, love it 🥰
@Elskainga
Wow! They’re in strife!!
Love it.
The Marquise de Merteuil is a self-described, self-made woman. She writes that she is her own creator. As a young girl Merteuil refused to let fate or society describe her, and began to compose herself. After her husband died, she set about educating herself and creating a reputation. Since then, she has remained at the top of the heap through careful manipulation, never once letting her guard down.
The Marquise is not particularly interested in love, nor does she seem to believe that love exists except as that capacity men and women have to enslave each other. Though she admits that it is possible that she and the Vicomte de Valmont once loved each other, she seems to have no interest in renewing that affair even when the opportunity presents itself.
As a letter writer, she is shrewd, with a particular gift for lifting phrases out of other people's letters and using their words as if they were her own. This nasty side of her self-protective instinct is reflected in her downfall. The disease that disfigures her has an interesting result: other people's true opinions of her are, metaphorically, written on her face.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/dangerous/character/the-marquise-de-merteuil
The parallels with this 18th C novel struck me near the start of this saga but I hadn't seen it spelled out so clearly until now!
We can take comfort in knowing that all her surgery will eventually fail to `beautify' her and her true nature will be written across her face for good.
@WildBoar
But, how did her husband die??
I've had the photo for quite a while now! I did make it brighter a while back. I like how the Queen is glowering at TBW 😁
@Maneki
Her face said it all…
God Save the Queen
O/T @Maneki
Me & Mister Mistie had first jabs
this week, Astra, no probs at all.
Follow up jabs 4 weeks time.
Mistielets booked Pfizer, early
September.
Quoting Spark Notes on another "MM": The disease that disfigures her has an interesting result: other people's true opinions of her are, metaphorically, written on her face.
With what we've been noticing about Prince Andrew, Sarah, and even Oprah, Harry's wife ought to be shaking in her shoes. (Not to mention Harry himself!)
There really is only so much that cosmetic procedures can do before the outside starts to match the inside.
Thank you!
TBW as a Real Housewife of Montecito is her fantasy but not her true level. She is still having to plan, manipulate , act out a character that she is not.
You're right that she must be so exhausted. Imagine having to do this every time, everywhere you go, with everyone you meet. Even with Harry, who has already seen at least two of her carefully constructed masks crumble, she is constantly manipulating and scheming.
When I think about what narcissists put themselves through, I honestly wonder how they can stand it.
I can think of only one other mediocre individual who ascended in the same vein and that was Jeffery Epstein...
Friday Singalong 🎤
Apologies: Shirley Bassey
Big Spender
Jig Render
The minute she cased out the joint
We could see she was a ho on a mission
A ghost unfriender
Plain looking, messed up mind
We all knew exactly
what goes down with her kind
She jumped straight on the point
And popped the corks
of many men at sea
Hey pretender
Big rear ender
Spend, some special time
for a fee…
What a world of difference there is between putting yourself -- your real, authentic self -- in the right place at the right time . . . and paying someone to help you create a "self" based on what you think someone will want to see.
They are going downhill fast, instead of ascending in celebrity circles. I think their currency is going to run out soon. Harry's forthcoming book, if it further trashes the RF, is going to take them down, much like the Oprah interview eventually did.
I think they'll stay married because the billionaires have not taken any interest in TBW, and TBW needs Harry's money. Lady C thinks that Harry's downfall is coming. Mental breakdown? Overdose? Suicide attempt?
Why the he11 did Harry agree to stand outside the house, juggling his balls? He agreed to participate in his own humiliation????
Watching this pathologic behavior being displayed on a global scale, for 4+ years, has damaged the Crown. It suggests that the entire family has poor judgement. I think that perception is far worse than Prince Andrew's poor personal judgement.
She went up to read Art History; William chose Geography to start with but he was the one to make the change to the same subject, so they both ended up doing Art History, IIRC.
Admittedly, it is a very small university (about a tenth of the size of Glasgow University, for instance) but even so there's no guarantee of meeting a specific person.
I don't think so.
@Enbrethiliel I recall a ridiculous, posed PAP shot of TBW right after she moved to London. Show this to your friend: https://www.celebstalks.com/prince-harrys-gf-meghan-markle-stays-with-him-in-kensington-palace-during-work-hiatus/
TBW is singularly focused on obtaining obscene wealth, while using charitable causes to soften her "crazy."
he has been reduced to the comedic role of the organ grinders monkey.
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I am flattered you chose to use my comment from a few days ago about H being her organ grinder's monkey. It's a great comparison innit? 😂
"She went up to read Art History; William chose Geography to start with but he was the one to make the change to the same subject, so they both ended up doing Art History, IIRC."
Think that's backwards. Will started with Art History but switched to Geography.
Iirc, both the 6s were walking down the sidewalk in Montecito and may have stopped to look at the menu in the window. The bars doors were open and patrons were heckling them to go back to England. 😃🤣🤣
I sincerely apologize for appearing to quote you without recognition. I am not sure I read your comment, but I certainly could have. My friends and I have been discussing the Harkle fiasco, comparing it to medicine show snake oil salesmen, organ grinders and circus acts. We have also used more colorful analogies. She is such an obvious schemer, her behavior begs for these comparisons. Again, I apologize.
So, they got heckled by bar patrons. Hmmm, that must have been on the sleazy side of town in Montecito, because don't the very wealthy there completely ignore the Harkles? Because the Harkles are nobodies, cringey, and just ick.
I will no longer be moderating Nutty's blog alongside @abbyh anymore. It's been one year and I stayed on longer than I planned. Circumstances have aligned so I need to move on.
Following the Sussexes gets toxic and uninspiring very fast. What has been wonderful are all the lovely and fascinating Nutties that have passed by here with their personality, knowledge, stories, and endless charm. I also feel deep gratitude for the quieter Nutties who posted FYIs, links, articles, and bravely put their thoughts out into the world when it meant receiving criticism or not even getting a response. Thanks for letting me come along with all of you on this crazy rollercoaster ride.
I feel dazed thinking about how I became a moderator and while I tried my best, I couldn't meet all it's challenges. I hoped to give back to this place because here was a reprieve for so many of us. There are days I wake up and cannot believe I lost 17 friends, neighbors, and family members to Covid. Yet it happened and in December my Mom was diagnosed with an illness that requires special care. For so long, every morning I expected bad news or horrible news.
I apologize for my emotional rambling but I had to let all of you know what you did for me. I'm not much of a writer but maybe with many years of practice, I'll be able to match half the wit and wisdom of those writing here. You gave me hope and smiles when I needed them most. I don't know if we will meet again but I know that so many of you will be in my heart and etched in so many precious memories. Thank you so much for that.
May the worlds of everyone here always be filled with peace, joy, and good health. You will be dearly missed by me. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.
Goodbye,
charade
Best wishes to you today and always!
Goodbye!❤️💓
...
" I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside
I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that
And may I say, not in a shy way
Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way"
(My way)
https://youtu.be/qQzdAsjWGPg
I wish you all the best for the future - thank you again.
Take good care.
I always said being a moderator was a thankless task and the fact you stayed longer than you had anticipated shows true dedication to us Nutties. Thank you! 😁Wishing you and yours the absolute best and hope you drop by just to say hello to us Nutties. Thank you from a Nutty from across the pond. 😃❤️🇬🇧
Best wishes to you and your Mom and thank you for helping to keep this blog on track.
You'll be sorely missed.
All the best to you and your Mom. Take care.
Your calm demeanor in handling the unfortunate challenges that sometimes arose is much appreciated. I'm so, so sorry that a few obnoxious people made you feel that your efforts weren't worthwhile. I think most of us truly appreciate what you offered us.
Wishing you all the best. You'll be sorely missed! Hoping that you find time to stop by and chat as time goes on.
It was wonderful working with her.
All the best to you, Charade. Thank you for everything you did for the blog as moderator. I appreciate the all the work that moderators do in online spaces.
I am sorry you have had such a difficult year with loss. Thanks again.
I hope things getter better for your and your mum! Your work was appreciated by many!
I have known you so briefly, but my interaction with you was kind and gentle.
I am so very sorry about your losses through Covid.
And, I will pray for you and your mother. I hope that your future has days of joy, love and laughter.
Thank you for all you did and hope to see you again.
No worries at all my dear. Sometimes I feel like I'm typing into the Grand Canyon with no echo. It's always so nice to get a nod when I say something someone likes or uses. Please don't worry. I meant that in fun!
Spare does come across as her circus act. He just needs a uniform with the silly hat and shiney buttons... LOL! ❤
Charade knows I will miss her greatly. I am grateful for her staying as long as she did.
It was wonderful working with her.
As Charade's fellow Mod, you're certainly going to feel her loss the most, so I sincerely wish you all the best in continuing this thankless job without her.
@Charade,
I am so very sorry to hear of your many loses. I can't even imagine how hard it must be. I'm especially sorry to hear of your mom's illness. My mom has been gone now for nine years and I miss her everyday. Cherish every second with her! You are in my heart of prayers.
It's so sad to see you go. You have done one HELL OF A JOB keeping this blog from falling apart. I've learned so much from your steady and calm way of dealing with the pain in the butt-ness over the past year or so. You my dear have helped make me a better person (and blog member). I truly hope you come back now and then just as a poster.
Best wishes always!
Lavender Lady ❤❤❤
I, too, would like to thank you from the bottom of my Yankee heart for taking on the thankless and often challenging role of moderator here. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you try and deal with a staggering number personal losses due to COVID, and the health crisis your mother is facing.
With all my best wishes for the future,
Rebecca
Charade
Thank you for all you’ve done
Can’t be easy, nor much fun
Herding cats with a velvet whip
I wish you well, Toodle pip
Please take care of yourself, and
your mum X
Will miss you 😘
Compassion is not a virtue -- it is a commitment. It's not something we have or don't have -- it's something we choose to practice. Brene Brown
How interesting that we don't know of any outreach to Brene from 6w. She (BB) is supposed to be really the go to guru replacing others in the USA quoatable guru world (or at least in my current travels).
Charade - you will be missed.
@Puds
I’m reading Captain Tom’s book
“Life Lessons”
I'm going to be MIA for some time because I have to take care of personal things but I hope to join all of you again.
This blog is filled with so many lovely people. Stay safe, healthy, and happy. Thank you truly!
My deepest condolences on your many losses. And also helping your mother. God Bless you both (I hope it's okay to say that).
Your calm presence has often calmed the stormy seas of the blog and you will be so missed. But also for your wit and insight. You are a kind person and that comes through.
Wishing you the very best, and I hope we will see you again.
Vaya Con Dios
So sorry for all your losses.
Thank you for your wonderful contribution moderating here despite all the issues facing you.
Wish you and your mom the best. Hope that you will be able to return here someday.
So sorry to hear about your losses.
You will be very much missed. Thank you for all you have done on the blog.
With much love to you and your mother. XX
Take care & Best wishes :)
I hope you still get to read this. I wish you peace, happiness and all the best in the future. Thank you for all you have done as a moderator here.
But you did not, and we are so very grateful.
It's high time they learned what real suffering is, not that they would care if all their relatives succumbed to the virus. The real suffering for them comes from being ignored - bring it on!
Meanwhile, the area in which I live is seeing a sharp increase in virus cases among the 18-30 yr olds who are in work (and it looks as if they may be passing it to older folk as well.) In addition, we are in shock about the shooting of 5 innocents (including a little girl of 3) by a social inadequate with a hatred of women - a new kind of terrorism it seems - more events that put the Harkles' miserable, oppressed existence into proportion.
I'd be happy to see them back here only if they were tried, convicted and sentenced to full-term life-imprisonment for treason, based on their attempts to subvert the Line of Succession.
The question has now been raised publicly so we might get a new `inclusive' definition of `terrorism', not restricted to the political/religious groups recognised so far.
Attention is now focussed, however, on why the Plod let him have his firearms licence and weapon back, probably taking the usual line of ` We can't do anything until he actually commits an offence.'
@WBBM said:
Attention is now focussed, however, on why the Plod let him have his firearms licence and weapon back, probably taking the usual line of ` We can't do anything until he actually commits an offence.'
After relieving him of his weapon they sent him on an anger management course and then returned it to him 3 weeks before he went on his rampage!. During this time his mother, (who he also shot) and other relatives are claimed to have begged the police and NHS to help him with mental health problems!
SERIOUS QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED! :(
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@Charade,
Look forward to seeing you here again in the future. Take good care of yourself.
It's difficult trying to get help when you believe one of the family has a personality disorder/ major mental problems because suspicion immediately falls on you yourself as being the unbalanced person. One has to express it solely in terms of concern for the deranged person's welfare, without the slightest hint that one is scared stiff for one's own safety.
Not easy
It happened to me when I was first trying to achieve some sort of rapprochement with my Narc ex. After all , what sort of woman says that her husband is looks like a kind of psychopath? One who has problems herself, of course!
One counsellor told me I was a `very angry woman' - I had to fight the urge to say `Of course I b----y well am!'
I eventually got him to come to a session with me - after he'd almost burst into tears and then stormed out, the counsellor more or less apologised. That is, she conceded that my only problem was him!
Mind you, he did threaten to tell my employer that I was mad, so I'd lose my job. Not a very bright move, seeing that he relied on my salary.
I just said - `Go ahead - see if they believe you'.
re Gavin Gringras - we talked about it a while back but don't recall any external reports. Can any other Nutties remember how the thought originated?
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus-idUSKBN25U2IO
This article on Quora has a good amount of info on Gavin Gingrass.
Thank you so much, charade, for your work with the blog. I also deeply appreciate it and wish you everything good going forward.
https://duchessdiaries.quora.com/Is-Gavin-Gingrass-the-new-Archie-I-have-to-say-that-I-was-a-bit-confused-when-I-saw-these-photos-of-Meghan-with-Arch
O/T COVID
Then you are extremely fortunate and lucky not have not known anyone who has either died or been affected long term by COVID. All the people I’ve known who died were in mostly in their 50s and 40s and had no underlying illness. The youngest is 23 and could potentially end up with life long disability issues. Perhaps be empathetic enough to spare a thought of those Nutties deeply affected by COVID; it isn’t scare mongering by discussing it. Just knowing and understanding it can be fatal and leave its horrid legacy behind. 😔
Going back on topic now and lurking. 🥴
this article talks about how India beat its covid problem using Ivermectin
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout
India was having 400,000 covid cases a day. Then, they started using Ivermectin as a preventive and a healing measure. Now, they see 4 cases in provinces with hundreds of millions inhabitants without using masks or lockdowns.
@Raspberry Ruffle, @Charade,
I am sorry you have known so many losses. It must be very difficult on the psyche just to learn about someone you know getting sick, let alone dying. Please know that you are not alone if you need help in dealing with this.
Gavin Gringas is a cute looking baby and adorable looking toddler. Archie although cute as all babies are, was not blessed with good looks. This quite obvious in the SA and Montecito pics. So to me, those are two different kids.
@SirStinx,
I have a relative who declined to be vaccinated He was young and healthy with no underlying health conditions. He completely bought into the idea COVID was no threat to him. Ended up in the ICU on a high oxygen concentration with blood clots in his lungs. Was about an inch away from being intubated. He's out of tbe hospital now but still takes daily breathing treatments. Fortunately he didn't die but its unclear if his lungs will return to their pre-COVID state. He's 29. I wish he'd been a little more fearful.
I'm also bothered by the implication that those with "underlying health conditions" were on death's door anyway even before COVID and so their deaths from COVID don't matter. Of course, they matter to the people they left behind. Plus, many of the underlying conditions that complicate COVID are conditions that for many people can be lived with for 10, 20, 30 years with no real problems if given proper medical management. But I guess it's a sort of "blame the victim" psychological defense. If I tell myself I don't have underlying health conditions (and I'm not elderly) it makes me feel safer. But it may be a false sense of safety as my young and healthy relative found out.
I disagree. I see a very strong resemblance.
I had a friend who had twins but everyone wondered whether they were identical because they looked quite different, partly because one of them had his little face muscles stuck in a very cute facial expression. I was of the opinion that they were identical, and when his little face got "unstuck", I was proven right. All this to say that I think I'm pretty good with faces.
This blog is a respite for people who are fed up with Harry and his bloody wife. It has survived a lot but is very vulnerable right now...
Please let's not give into the temptation to take advantage of this vulnerability.
I am asking with all of the decency I possess.
We can do this, Nutties. We've got this!
And so what if people have underlying health conditions? Does it mean that their lives don't matter? It's just the luck of the draw that they get those underlying conditions; it's not like they did anything to get those. If you've been lucky enough not to get one of those underlying conditions, good for you. But it's not like sick people did anything to deserve their illness. Which is what is implied.
So what if the person is old? Does it mean that we don't care about their life? They deserve to live as long of a life as they can. Just because they're old it doesn't mean that their life doesn't matter.
I am sorry for your loss. Thank you for your words here, they are truthful and compassionate.
You're right. Every life matters. Everybody matters or nobody matters.
If I can do it, anybody can. I am pledging to you Nutties and to this blog to scroll on as was voted a couple of years ago.
70% voted: Stay the way things are: I'll scroll through the crazy posts
869 votes were cast.
Anyone wanting to make this pledge with me? It's a pledge for a peaceful blog not to me, so don't be shy Nutties. I will stay quiet. I give you my word, to ignore and to scroll and roll.
There is strength in numbers.
Thanks!
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I thought SA baby looked quite a bruiser but I don't think he was the same child as`duck rabbit'. Still, I may not have a good eye for young babies, not having had any of my own.
It seems safe to say though that TBW has an even worse idea of young children's faces - and sizes - than I have and expects us to believe that, in the immortal words of her husband, `they change so much over 2 weeks'.
I still believe that the `birth certificate' purporting to be that of Archie is not what it appears to be. To echo Samatha's words, there's no evidence that the children exist
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Back to MM topics. I saw this being discussed on Tumblr and went and researched a little bit about it. This was an article published February 12th 2013. Here are some excerpts from the article that are pretty interesting.
She makes it sound like she's been all over the world. Have we heard about the New Zealand trip before?
https://www.jaehakim.com/travel/go-away-with/go-away-with-meghan-markle/
Q. As a child, did you ever wish you could go on more conventional trips like your friends?
A. You know, this is all I knew. Just like being an only child was all I knew. I was always aware of how unique and cool it was that my mom got to take me to all these cool places because of her job and connections. It was so much fun traveling, primarily with my mom.
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Q. Are you an adventurous eater?
A. Oh gosh. I eat everything! My poor husband has to try to keep up with me. In Vietnam two years ago, I was eating everything I had seen Anthony Bourdain eat.
😂😁What exactly were her Mum’s connections?! 😂🙄 Does anyone know?
`Oh gosh. I eat everything! My poor husband has to try to keep up with me. In Vietnam two years ago, I was eating everything I had seen Anthony Bourdain eat.'
Ye gods - did that include the still-beating heart of a cobra? I once heard an account of AB doing that in a radio programme.
It was all I could do to keep my previous meal down.
It might explain why she is as she is though...
She wasn't an only child, although it may have felt that way since her siblings were so much older.
I have a sibling 15 years younger than me. They had a vastly different life than I did, but it doesn't mean they were an only child.
They never refer to themselves as an only child.
Why did she even bring that into the conversation? It was irrelevant to the topic of traveling.
She could have said, because my siblings were so much older yada, yada. But she didn't say that, she lied that she was an only child.
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I eat everything??? Nothing about vegan during the week, no eggs. More lies.
Although that could have been true at the time, and she evolved to vegan later. But that isn't what she said in the later interview. She implied that she's always been vegan.
It makes me so mad that she never gets called out on her lies. She gets by with saying anything that sounds good at the time. So infuriating.
There's a good explanation by this lady of what was really going on! (SueMe)
Just Chattin' - Was Meghan's Acting Career Built on a Scam?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYV_I-gD3RY
Thanks for the link from 2013 re TBW's travelling.
Q. What has traveling taught you?
A. It really shapes you from a young age and makes you really empathetic of people of whatever culture, wherever they’re from. (my emphasis)
'empathetic of people of whatever culture', really? Like the BRF and
ordinary Brits? I'm surprised she didn't thrown in 'compassion'.
Re TBW in NZ, I thought I'd read something about it and found it: she went to NZ on honeymoon with Trevor Engelson. I remembered something about a camper van.
https://tinyurl.com/yrjau7yk
Meghan’s fanbase on social media is becoming increasingly ludicrous
Another troll pretended to me and lodged a false complaint
The social media trolls were back out in force this week, taking great offence at a feature I had written for this newspaper pointing out that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were conspicuous by their absence at Barack Obama’s 60th birthday party for progressives.
Such is the lunacy of the extremist end of Meghan’s online fanbase that I had Twitter twerps suggesting that I had been asked by Prince Andrew to write the story to divert attention from him being sued by Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
It didn’t seem to matter that my Obamas article was published on the Telegraph website before the latest Andrew story came to light.
As “evidence” for this characteristically idiotic claim, they began retweeting photographs that were taken of me with the Duke of York when I interviewed him for his 50th birthday in 2010 – this was, incidentally, before it emerged he had made the catastrophic error of visiting Jeffrey Epstein in New York after the latter had been convicted for procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute.
Meanwhile, another troll pretended to be me and lodged a false complaint with the Fundraising Regulator against the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s Royal Foundation. Obsessed or what?
But the point about journalists “ignoring” the Duke of York story in favour of Sussex-bashing isn’t just preposterous on the basis that no one would know about Andrew’s ties to Epstein if it wasn’t for hacks like me writing about it for more than a decade. It’s that the Duke has had the worst press of any royal in recent memory.
But the point about journalists “ignoring” the Duke of York story in favour of Sussex-bashing isn’t just preposterous on the basis that no one would know about Andrew’s ties to Epstein if it wasn’t for hacks like me writing about it for more than a decade.
That's very much the same as Dan Wootton, (who incidentally, I can't abide!) said when he was interviewed on the Triggernometry channel last week.
Dan Wootton - Will Harry and Meghan Destroy the Royal Family?
As for her fans ie:the sussex squad - they're all nuts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZUxg0Erls
That’s the equivalent of Brits going to Europe either for a holiday or a day or weekend in France/Paris etc…nobody makes it a big thing or deal because it isn’t. 😃
We? She could have just as easily said Trevor and I. Especially since he probably paid for the whole thing.
You can't tell me that she paid for a trip to New Zealand with her money. I bet anything that was all Trevor's money. And then she acts like she got there all by her little self.
There is no implication whatsoever that that was her honeymoon. They were still married at that point so it would have made sense to use his name
Q. Camping or five-star hotels?
A. Both! It all depends on where you are. We went campervanning through New Zealand for 14 days once and it was amazing. We hiked through the glaciers and visited the wineries in Marlborough. Then we went off the North Island off the coast of Auckland and stayed four nights in a beach house.
I also spent several weeks mainly touring the South Island in a camper van. New Zealand makes it so easy. There are water and dump stations everywhere and you can park your van for the night just about anywhere in such beautiful scenery except for private property and where posted no overnight parking. My husband and I so loved our time in NZ that we traveled there again the following year!
Reading Sam’s book, I felt such a sadness. And, I suspect you may be 100% correct. Sam seemed very genuine in her writing and recollections (despite the shortcomings of the book.). Sam and Thomas Jr. apparently were marginalized by their stepmom. Reading between the lines,I sense entitlement for an unappreciative Doria and M, while Sam and TJ were left to fend for themselves. Very sad. Too bad, in retrospect, M does not have compassion for her siblings. M is truly cold…
Last message for a while. I don't want to keep derailing the blog with my posts. I just needed to make sure that everyone who sent me messages knows I got them all and I am deeply grateful for each one.
I want to send my condolences to @Mel, @Raspberry Ruffle, and everyone here who lost someone during this pandemic. Whatever everyone's experience here, may we all heal and recover from the visible and invisible scars left on us by the pandemic.
I am a lucky person to get so much back from all of you. Thank you truly. I hope I can come back soon to chat with the truly kind and caring hearts here.
https://grifties.com
Doria managed to inflict a lot of damage all around.
It would have been creepy at best of times but at the moment, in the context which we discuss... Well, it makes you think:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9894103/Wallis-Simpson-dominated-Duke-Windsor-actually-liked-new-book-claims.html
Following on from the Sue Me optical illusion (`Cinderella or Sherlock Holmes) we now have this:
`Cinderella as Meghan Markle' - or is it the other way around? The trailer to a revamp/remake of the Disney film presenting MM's story as a fairy tale.
From Sky News Australia - The Bolt Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGrLTzFj6KI
Corden is involved with it. Need I say more? Apart, that is, Prince Charming seems more like a young William than his brother (at 2.46)
@Puds - cheers 🥰
“Life Lessons” CaptainTom
A lovely little book, a gentle stroll through
a long, well lived life.
Uplifting, his overall message
‘Be Kind’
Whipping Boys
Wally and Eddy
Meggy and Harry
True matches made in hell
None could portend
They’d both meet a sad end
By their wives, knelling their bell…
@WildBoar
OMG!! Exactly!! Hahaha
The fairy Godmother looks/sounds
like Oprah in drag!!
Good onya Andrew Bolt 👍
The Glass Stripper
Poor Cindermega
Once more a sl.t beggar
Using Jess and Markus,
fugly sisters
Spinning her tales
Off the back of white males
The shoe fits all
with these lowly D-listers
Her giant shoe would fit
‘em all, with room for spare…
Taking this retelling on its own merits, I don't mind it that much. There are other modern movies that have the bone structure of Cinderella and that are interesting because they twist the familiar formula. (E.g. In the Miley Cyrus movie So Undercover, the protagonist gets rescued by a fairy godfather who sends her off to university -- which is probably the modern equivalent of a royal ball for a young woman who wants to better her economic status. Marriage to a young man of equal or higher status to hers, optional.) A part of me is very organically interested in this new movie.
Another part of me wants to reach for the barf bucket. Inasmuch as this movie is a positive take on what Harry's wife has done to the British Royal Family, it's just going to be propaganda.
So is the prince in this movie going to give up his crown and live off his wife's dress shop?
It really does seem that every British person ever can't stand Corden. They're happy that he hauled off to the USA and hope that he stays there forever. He may have a nice career in America, but it must still rankle to have been rejected by his own people. And if he feels that they were unfair to him, perhaps he also feels that they were unfair to Harry and to Harry's wife.
He's also in Oprah's pocket as a Weight Watchers endorser, so he's definitely a part of that clique.
ugh! tell me this is more SS PR and a joke!
I would lose all. (or much) respct for Kate if she teamed up with TBW !!!
has she lost her mind???
Charade -you’ll be missed while you’re on your break. thank you for the great job you did as mod… it is a thankless job!
Interesting how so many things come back to that clique.
Samantha was a little vague in some details of the story, but this is what appeared to happen…
Thomas and his first wife divorced while Sam and Thomas Jr. were children. Apparently, Sam and Thomas Jr. originally lived with their mother after her divorce from Thomas Sr. This was in the middle of the US somewhere. (I just gave Sam’s book to our local thrift shop. So, I can’t check the details. Sorry!)
Thomas Sr. was very determined to be successful in his career managing the lighting for TV and movie productions. Right after the divorce, he moved to California and began looking for work in Hollywood. He worked very hard and in a few years worked his way into a well-paying job doing lighting for television shows.
In the meantime, Sam and Thomas Jr. were unhappy living with their mother. Sam mentioned her mother had some mental/emotional issues and was not providing a good home environment for the siblings. So, once Thomas Sr. was established in his career in Hollywood, he brought Sam and Thomas Jr. out the live with him in CA.
From the book, Sam and Thomas Jr. appeared to have little contact with their mother once they moved to CA.
Something that surprised me was that the siblings lived with Tom Sr. for years before he met Doria. Then, when he met Doria, she moved in and quickly moved the family to a neighborhood she liked better — but there never appeared to be any consideration for the children’s needs. They moved schools multiple times and seemed to have very little parental support or supervision. The children seemed ignored by Doria and they did not like the way she treated them. Then, when M was born, everyone focused on the baby’s needs.
M seemed to grow up in an environment where she learned from day one that no one mattered but her. Very sad.
It sounds as if Sam has some things in common with Cinderella, too!
But in that case, Harry's wife finds herself in a much less flattering role . . .
I wouldn't worry about a joint project between Catherine and her sister-in-law. Page Six seems to be the sister-in-law's favorite manifestation tool these days rather than an accurate source. But even it has to admit: "Sources close to the royal family have denied the report."
My guess is that the sister-in-law is testing the waters, to see if BP will make good on its promise to deny false stories she makes up about the BRF.
@Stephanie 123
Thanks, very interesting.
Poor Samantha, and Tom.
They didn’t stand a chance
Doria was on a mission.
Like mother, like daughter…
It really does seem that every British person ever can't stand Corden. They're happy that he hauled off to the USA and hope that he stays there forever. He may have a nice career in America, but it must still rankle to have been rejected by his own people..
He’s a one trick pony who just isn’t funny. He has a big ego and thinks he’s more talented than he actually is…..that’s why he’s not liked. Brits tend not to like egotistical people who think they’re somehow better, we make fun of people like that! 😂🤪
Thomas Sr. sure can pick 'em.
I'm sticking with Doria having Borderline Personality Disorder.
What? There's going to be a Cinderella movie starring TBW? In reverse? A nobody becomes a princess then throws it all away to be an excruciatingly cringey celebrity because being a princess was akin to being a scullery maid. Uh huh. Guaranteed flop at the box office.
The long game is working.
The plonkers have shot themselves
in her big foot.
Time and patience…
God Save the Queen
I am back from attending mother-in-law's funeral yesterday. It was smaller than father-in-law's funeral, as may have been expected since husband and mother-in-law had been COVID positive, and many of the mourners would have been octogenarians and nonagenarians. We had N-95 masks that we passed out; the funeral homes had the safety theater Chinese paper masks. One family member that just turned 40 claimed that, since he hadn't previously gotten COVID, he was immune and refused a mask. Well. Okay, then. I support your freedom.
Was it security theater on our part? Definitely! We were wearing them to reassure "elderly" relatives (which means anybody older than we are). Husband tested negative for virus before the funeral. When I returned home early this past week, I tested at the Health Department and, when I didn't get my results in a timely manner, a friend called a friend that works for the CDC who then called for my test results (which were negative) so that I could attend the funeral comfortably in the knowledge that I was not endangering others. (I wonder if my name is flagged now in labs and in the county health department as a Person of Interest to the CDC.)
It appears that the only break that Haiti ever catches is in the earth's crust.
If anyone is deserving of some compassion amongst those 3 children, it's Samantha and her brother. And yet Mm wouldn't be caught dead showing either of them an ounce of compassion.
I thought showing compassion, being kind, was her big selling point. Her brand. Hmmm...
I think Thomas and Doria were in their own world, quasi-hippie marriage and relationship. My evidence is where they got married, as posted before here. At the Paramahansa Yogananda Fellowship in LA. The grounds are very nice there and suitable for outdoors marriages, https://yogananda.org/locations-international-headquarters. Paramahansa Yogananda wrote a well-known autobiography, was one of the first yogis to hit it big in America back in the 1920s.
I think Thomas did not get along at all with his first wife. So he put her and their children in the back of his mind. To concentrate on Doria and M. Megs got his attention, the best schooling, he paid for her university, she got his funding. This way Megs thought she was as special and as doted on as an only child. She was half treated as one by the Thomas-Doria duo.... Who were off in their own fantasy world.
Thomas Sr. sure can pick 'em.
I'm sticking with Doria having Borderline Personality Disorder.
I'm sure we have all witnessed people ending up with several different people, but all of them having the same personality defects whether it is an addictive personality (such as one ex having an alcohol problem, another being a meth addict), lying, stealing, cheating, etc. Some people would speculate that it is a karmic lesson that must be learned. I think that it is because it feels familiar and comfortable and it is easier to fall into old patterns than learn new ones.
Remember that God does not place burdens upon us that are heavier than He knows we can bear.
Keep your chin up, and blessings on you to help you through this rough period.
Hugs!
Remember that God does not place burdens upon us that are heavier than He knows we can bear.
Keep your chin up.
Are all of those humanitarians in California going to rush to help Haiti with their huge earthquake devastation?
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You may well ask. What about women in Afghanistan now? Will our feminist bl**dy woman organise some support? Very difficult, I know, for anything to reach them but our compassionate thespian could mobilise opinions.