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Forward Momentum

Spotify seems to be picking up some steam.  Isn't that interesting.

What might we read into this?

Her voice.  Sounds serious so what audience is it being pitched to?

Where is H (as she calls him)?  Will he be brought in to show how men can be supportive at some point?  maybe?

Could this be the real start for a political career or, could it just give more ammo to her critics?


According to the promo, the talks will get into the history and talk with assorted people how "labels" or "stereotypes" continue to exist and how that intertwines with how women are not making breakthroughs (if I am reading it right). Unite for Female Empowerment might be a banner then.  But will it really change how most everyday first worlders (not working in, say Hollywood sort of job) view the topic as applicable to their life or is it more like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?


Are there other topics to follow ... eventually?  With the current topic, a little bit can go a long way.  Heavy handed, anger or sounding like preaching at not to and it can easily come off as a single note played in different keys set on repeat.

What, how and who will she bring to the table to educate? Mostly, just how will this actually bring about change because it takes more than just listening to a podcast once in a while to change the world?  And (maybe I'm playing the stupid card here) how will all the people of the world who are the real problem (road blocks) to this change she wants to investigate going to be able to begin to think of changing if they don't have a Spotify contract for starters?  


Oscars - anyone watching or are you waiting for the photos of how people are dressed first?


As a side note: I just wonder sometimes about the concept of female empowerment through time.  When I look at the past, for all practical purposes it got the most recent big push in the late 60's.  So 50+, almost 60 years.  And how far have we really travelled if this is still being talked about so much as if all gains before yesterday have been erased? Who does and how do they measure that progress?   What was the end goal?  and how close are we when we think about where we started? or why does it feel like the goal posts keep shifting?


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Girl with a Hat said…
hi, first commenter. Hi Abbyh! hope everyone is well on this beautiful Sunday
TLG had quite a bit to say about Maggot’s Spotify Podcast…namely the creepy voice! I’ll be back! 😜
Maneki Neko said…
@abbyh

Re female empowerment, I think TBW has set the process back several decades. She's been propped up by men most of her life, first daddy then an assortment of boyfriends/husbands. Would anybody have heard of heard if she wasn't H's wife? I know the same could be said of Catherine being William's wife but she never had any pretensions to change the monarchy/the world.

Re Spotify, 'Meghan and Harry, who have an £18million podcast deal with the music giant, are unhappy about misinformation on the platform.'

As one commenter put it:

You First, DC tri-state , United States, about an hour ago

I think I finally got it. Any opinion that contradicts theirs is "misinformation" but their opinions are their "truth". Yup, I got it.

OCGal said…
William’s speeches are genuine and heartfelt and show him to be an honorable man. #6 & #666 spew nonsense as welcome as projectile vomit. I expect Meghan’s upcoming Spotify podcast will be anything but genuine, heartfelt, and honorable.

‘LONDON, March 27 (Reuters) - Prince William has said he is committed to service and "For us that's not telling people what to do. It is about serving and supporting them in whatever way they think best, by using the platform we are lucky to have."’

We can all compare and contrast William’s honorable goals and stated course of action to those of the execrable #6 and vile wife #666.

I believe that William’s speech given at the end of last week’s Caribbean tour included the above zingers meant partially as a pointed smack down aimed directly at the Douche and Douchess of Suxx-Bigtime.

William said he (and Katherine’s aims in the long haul are to be)

1. Committed to service. #6 & #666 fled from serving anyone but themselves

2. Not telling people what to do. #6 & #666 are constantly telling people what to do, while they themselves never step up to the plate. “Do as I say, not as I do” should be the Douche and Douchess’ motto on their self-styled Coat of Arms

3. Serving and supporting the people in whatever way they think best. #6 & #666 have no intention of supporting anyone’s self determination: they persist in trying to ram their illogical, unattainable, wildly off-the-mark recommendations on us all

4. Using the platform “we are lucky to have”: William and Katherine feel lucky to have this platform to do good, while #6 & #666 delusionally feel entitled to a worldwide platform, and have thus far used it to monumentally negative result

Notice William mentions service, support, and luck in reference to himself and Katherine. Those words don’t pass the lips of the Douche and Douchess of Suxx-Bigtime.
Maneki Neko said…
Apologies if this has already been mentioned in the previous post - I checked but I don't think so.

The BLG has a video on *'s Archetypes podcast and noticed her voice was much deeper than usual. He likens it to 'Elizabeth Holmes on meth' 😂. I didn't listen to her tripe but listened to him and the voice is definitely deeper, to sound more authoritative and commanding, I presume. I don't think she realises it would take a bit more than a deeper voice...

https://youtu.be/DpCc8IAzRHE
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I've just posted the same! 😆 Great minds and all that.
snarkyatherbest said…
OCGal ha 6 and 666. love it!

agreed Wm speech was heartfelt

saw on the other thread someone comment on Charles and any jealously of the Cambridges. i would hope in Charles old age he would gain a little wisdom and appreciate them more and not play dueling courts. i did think it odd he and Camila were in Ireland at the same time as the Caribbean visits. not well planned. i would hate to think charles was helping tweak the controversies with the press.

it is the weekend of the prodigal son reading and i do think at some point charles will welcome back his son. hopefully not with the current wife and hopefully with a truly contrite son. as our priest said today cheap grace is no grace at all if you keep asking for forgiveness but never change your ways.
KnitWit said…
This woman never shuts up. Non stop word salad generator. She can't blab for an hour a week? She could revert to her Tig topics and give a recipe for roast chicken. She would have more success as a " lifestyle" icon like Goop or Martha Stewart. Think of all the shady deals she could make. She could blab about all the expensive swag she gets.... her silly jewelry, horrendous outfits, "natural beauty" products, etc.

The lifestyles of the rich and aimless holds a voyeuristic, aspirational appeal.

Woke b.s. word salad is annoying. No one us interested.


Fifi LaRue said…
IMO Trotter's podcast is not going to get much in the way of listeners/subscribers. She doesn't have much of an intellect, she is mostly disingenuous in everything she has ever said; she sorely lacks wit and charm; and, she is unable to make back and forth conversation. On top of all that, Trotter's voice is grating because it is the voice of a really disordered individual trying to make nice in public. Those kinds of voices are high pitched, and overly sweet, and that's what makes her voice unlistenable.
KnitWit said…
What defines an " empowered" yacht girl? Plying her trade reverse cowgirl instead of missionary? Requiring her sponsor/bf/husband to provide a gold Amex with her name on it?

lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko wrote: "Re female empowerment, I think TBW has set the process back several decades. She's been propped up by men most of her life, first daddy then an assortment of boyfriends/husbands..."

Yes. And it sure seems to me she's not only lived off of men, an unflattering stereotype, but she also portrays herself as a weak fragile (young) mother who must be protected from the challenges of ordinary life. That's not exactly a picture of a strong woman either.
Sandie said…
Hi everyone! I have been keeping an eye on the dastardly duo and must admit that they have become predictably boring!

What are the chances that the Spotify podcasts never actually happen? This is the third time an announcement has been made with no definites given, not even dates, and a complete change of direction each time.

She obviously has no understanding of the concept of archetypes at all. The work of Caroline Myss is probably the most accessible and practical approach to Jung's work:

https://www.myss.com/free-resources/sacred-contracts-and-your-archetypes/appendix-a-gallery-of-archtypes/

Note that archetypes are not good or bad, and are often used in stories (books, movies).But, it seems that the focus will be on her story of being a victim ... I was silenced. I was shamed as a 'bad' woman (never mind what she attempted to do to her sister)...

Do you think he will ever get tired of her and see her for the shallow, stupid, grandiose woman she is?

Oh, and congrats to her for stirring up bogus controversy about the Cambridges' tour and then releasing her nothing burger announcement about the podcasts to draw attention to herself (and perhaps keep Spotify happy for a little but longer). How many to justify calling it a series? She keeps repeating the same behaviour of grandiose attention seeking.

Perhaps tomorrow I will feel sorry for her, but right now I am simply annoyed!
Sandie said…
Perhaps she will buy listeners for her first podcast and then proclaim herself forevermore as having done the most listened to podcast ever ... Like she did with her book, when she bought herself onto a bestseller list for the week.

FifLaRue perfectly describes her lack of appeal as a podcaster in the post above.
Mel said…
I saw some place that the Cambridge is trip was supposed to be this coming up week, but because it was during Spring break for their children for their children they said no can do.

So their trip was moved up to this past week. Which unfortunately conflicted with PC's trip.

Apparently he OK'd the clash because he was thinking because of the time differences. That his things would be publicized at a different time than what the Cambridge is were.

Apparently he wasn't counting on most of the Royal Rota going on the Cambridge trip.

I think the Cambridge's need to rethink access for the Royal Rota. If they can't provide honest reporting they shouldn't be allowed much access. Reporting on protests is fine, reporting them as a much bigger deal than they were is not fine.

Fabricating whole quotes is really not fine.

At a bare minimum I would have lost their luggage. And I would have had some heavy duty thoughts about not letting them fly on my airplane either.
Jaw-dropping documentary on Channel 4 last night (`The Traitor King') - to be repeated later in the week (Thurs, on 4Seven -channel 49 I think, better check it).

It dealt with the true extent of Dk of Windsor's collaboration with the N*zis. There was no suggestion of a cover-up - the evidence wasn't hidden, available in BBC archives, Churchill archive at Cambridge, Parliamentary papers. Captured German papers helped as well.

As usual, cock up rather than conspiracy explains the `lack' of evidence. The historians just hadn't bothered to/got around to interrogating these records. Apparently, Churchill threatened to Court Martial him for disobeying orders, as he still held military rank.

The very worst thing is that he broadcast to Germany, urging the bombing of Britain to beat us into submission. Shortly after, they tried and went on trying. Appalling the a `king' should connive at the destruction of his own people and kingdom..

Apparently he still saw himself as king, couldn't grasp that the was out on his ear. He so wanted to come back as king that he was prepared to use the Luftwaffe to achieve it.

The parallels with Twat and* are chilling, almost everything that was said about Windsors anticipated what we have said about Sussexes. Not so much the Diana playbook as the David'n'Wallis script.

I repeat, it wasn't a cover up - just nobody looked for evidence in the right places.

Yet again, I start to wonder just which nasty regime is the Sussex puppet master.

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On a lighter note, even if the Sixes had been at the Oscars, she's have been thoroughly upstaged by Will Smith. Just shows how so much of what we are told is going to happen is so much hot air.
Maneki Neko said…
Today is the second article by Jan Moir in the DM lambasting William and Catherine. The first was four days ago when she claimed 'this tour has left me dying of embarrassment... and if the Duchess's glue-gun grin gets any more fixed, someone is going to have to chisel it off when she gets home'. Charming! They behaved impeccably, perhaps she would have been happier to see the other brother and his strumpet instead.

Today she writes 'It couldn't have been more colonial if Prince William had worn a pith helmet or driven a tank through Kingston'. What a lot of twaddle. She as been controversial in the past but her criticisms are unjustified in this instance, in fact readers comments on her bitchy article are mainly positive.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10657803/It-colonial-JAN-MOIRs-verdict-royal-tour-thats-split-opinion.html
HappyDays said…
Does anybody know if the Harkles showed up at the Oscars? From what I can tell, they were not presenters (thank goodness), but were they even there as invited guests or did they show up at any of the numerous after parties?
I do not see any articles thst say they were present at all.
Maneki Neko said…
@HappyDays

Rest assured that if the Harkles had rocked up at the Oscars, we would know! There would be pix right, left and centre, TBW would have seen to it. Luckily, we've been spared the sight of some horrendous concoction worn by * as well as her simpering face. (Mind you, I looked at some pix and saw some frocks that were absolute horrors).
Mel said…
and if the Duchess's glue-gun grin gets any more fixed
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Here's what she could write about Mm:

And if the Duchess's legs get any further apart they might get stuck like that. Or maybe they already are.

Mel said…
All that money that MM spent on SS writing about whether or not she would be at the Oscars, completely wasted. Karma struck again.

For days to come, absolutely *nobody* is going to be writing *anything* about the Harkles.
gfbcpa said…
The late drummer of the Foo Fighters (Taylor Hawkins) was slapped across the face by PH in 2015. Taylor told PH he was tired and jet-lagged from the flight to England was having a hard time staying awake. PH slapped him across the face and said, "Are you awake now?" Link to the video and article are below.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10658045/Late-Foo-Fighters-drummer-Taylor-Hawkins-SLAPPED-face-Prince-Harry.html
snarkyatherbest said…
ha no at appearance and it’s the one oscars everyone is talking about 😉.

the will smith chris rock jada dynamic intrigued me. he goes all -in(planned or unplanned) in defense of his wife. she just sits there. video during the commercial break have others talking to him and she does nothing to talk to her husband. doesn’t move from her seat just sits amongst the turmoil. a lot of talk about her habits with other men while married to him. a lot of talk that she rules the roost and openly trashes him on her facebook live show. made me thinks of trotter and her duke. she creates turmoil he is all over the place probably trying to please her and all the ”offenses” launched at her and she just sits drinks her oat latte and watch the buzz of activity all around her sheepishly grinning “i did that”.

Mel said…
sheepishly grinning “i did that”.
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Smugly grinning.
Museumstop said…
@Maneki Neko

I am so tired of reading 'tone-deaf' this, 'tone-deaf that'. Jamaica isn't complaining about the Land Rover ride - I can't see what was so bad about it, this is a done military honour. And when did white clothing become oppressive?!

Here's what Philip Davis, Bahamas PM, tweeted yesterday, "I want to thank the Bahamian people for giving a great Bahamian welcome to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. You shared our culture and stories of how climate change impacts our beautiful islands. Together we have shown the world it is Better in The Bahamas."

This woke victim Olympics by the 'others' to find out what was offending, what had colonial overtones has become tiresome, frustrating and is definitely a bait.

This tour opened my eyes to the extent predetermined motives can upstage facts as we see them occur in real time. It is obvious several commentators had decided to colour the tour with a single perspective of race. No matter if it wasn't playing out as they envisioned it. Sure, Jamaica had its issues, but so what. Dissent is sign of a good democracy. People have the right to voice their political opinions. But I do feel it was whipped up by malicious intent to collide with a goodwill gesture.

I see royal tours cultural - soft diplomacy outings. William and Kare weren't there to sign trade deals or create a bloc agreeing on military cooperation. They were there to interact with the people, sample local culture and resources and maintain good Commonwealth family relations. In my mind, they did just that, and behaved impeccably while at it.

The intent and analysis of the RR, of commentators sitting miles, oceans and cultures away, of Twitter warriors - especially Harkle servants - however just pure gutter.
Would Jan Moir rather Duchess Catherine looked as miserable as sin? I would have expected better of JM than that.

It must be hell trying not show any discomfort when one knows one is being set up at every turn.

BTW, has anyone wondered why Channel 4 chose now to release the David/Wallis film?
Museumstop said…
@snarkyatherbest

Oh nice catch about Jada and the dynamics between the couple.
Teasmade said…
I (like all of us) never expected to see her at the Oscars.

You would THINK that they'd be ashamed of starting these rumors (I know they're paid placements, not rumors), and then it never happening, would embarrass them. All it does is first, point out their desperation and after the fact, reinforce that they are talentless rejects.

I just think that in this position, I'd keep quiet.
HappyDays said…
Maneki Neko said…
@HappyDays

Rest assured that if the Harkles had rocked up at the Oscars, we would know! There would be pix right, left and centre, TBW would have seen to it.

@Maneki Neko: Thanks for confirming the Harkles didn’t show up at the Oscars. You just KNOW if they had been there, they would have tried to bring a video crew. However, I am a bit surprised they did not manage to show up at any of the after parties, especially Elton John’s party, which has become a fixture of the Oscars after party circuit.


Sir Elton just hit a milestone birthday on March 25th when he turned 75, and one would think that if Harry and his puppet master were still close friends with Elton and David, they would have been at his party and made sure a photo was released. But perhaps they are not as close as they once were. Even though Elton’s husband David is reportedly working on TBW’s woke cartoon series Pearl, Sir EJ himself may be keeping a certain amount of distance between himself and the Harkles as they continue to dig themselves into eventual obscurity. He might also be getting reports of negative behaviors by Harry’s wife from his husband as he collaborates with Harry’s wife on Pearl.

EJ likely realizes that in the long run, he is better off aligning himself with the REAL ROYALS in the form of HMTQ, Charles, and William. After all, Sir EJ didn’t receive his knighthood from Harry or his wife, did he?
White in all forms appears to be cancelled -

White undies? Bin them!
White teeth? Pull 'em out?
White hair? Shave it off! - so let's cancel New Zealand
White cat? Put it to sleep!
White horse? Shoot it!

Ya gotta wear nothing by but black, even in blazing sunshine - never mind being mistaken for a New Zealander. Kiwis seem to wear All Black, all the time, as a statement of national pride. In a restaurants, aprons are black, so are table cloths & napkins.

Let's cancel New Zealand !!!

Who''s going to accuse whom of appropriation?
Fifi LaRue said…
All that blow harding about sitting front and center, and presenting the award for Best Picture.

That proves that everything that comes out of the Harkles is fake news.

Elton John hosts an annual Oscars party. The ticket cost is $5,000 and dinner is an additional $9,000.
With all of Twit's money, they both could have easily afforded to attend, and rub shoulders with the Hollywood glittterati.

So, the Harkles not being at Elton John's party tells us that the Harkles are personnas non grata with EJ.
What did they do to earn EJ's disdain? Hmmm.
Mel said…
I think Mm puts out the will she/won't she crap just for PR.

She knows she won't go to these things. She can't handle being in a crowd of people all dressed better than her, with actual experience in the industry. The only way that she can handle a crowd if she is clearly defined as the Queen Bee. No one can get too close, no one can try to converse.

She will lecture, you will listen from a distance. She'll wave and then exit to the limo.

She can't handle being compared to other people because she knows that she's nobody. All she has going for her is ex-Suitcase girl.
Mel said…
What did they do to earn EJ's disdain? Hmmm.
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Besides being overall jerks?

Saw this on Tumblr:

Mr. John had some medical issues & required care. At this time, he was asked for a loan of EJ plane for a vacay the 6's ex-royals wanted to take. Mr. John was ill & wanted to have it available to himself. Calls resulted in a "huffy" dialogue, which then resulted in a "huffy" response from EJ.
Rebecca said…
@Teasmade

You would THINK that they'd be ashamed of starting these rumors (I know they're paid placements, not rumors), and then it never happening, would embarrass them.
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The rumors were beyond-the-pale delusional. That if it weren’t for the Princess Diana film, * would have presented the Oscar for Best Actress—even though tradition dictates that the previous year’s Best Actor winner has that honor. That she and Ginger Nuts would present the award for Best Picture—even though it’s always announced by Hollywood royalty.

I’m glad GN won’t be attending the memorial service for Prince Philip tomorrow. Everyone in the RF that matters will be there, and that doesn’t include him.
OKay said…
@Mel That's a hell of a nerve, getting huffy with someone from whom you're asking a favour!
DesignDoctor said…
@Mel
That story of EJ wanting to keep the use of his private plane for himself in case of a medical emergency causing a huffy response from the 6's is a perfect example of the selfish and entitled behavior of narcs who focus only on their own needs and ignore the (real) needs of others.
Good for EJ for standing up to them.

As an aside, the movie CODA is a wonderful story and movie. It deserves the Best Picture Oscar!
SwampWoman said…
I can remember being a teen and going to an Elton John concert. Not that anyone heard the music with all the screaming fans...sadly, he doesn't look like he's going to be with us much longer, nor does Phil Collins. All my youthful heartthrobs are passing on. Yikes.

Sorry for the ramblings re my misspent youth (grin). Re the plane that belongs to EJ and the demands for its use for a 'vacation', I have to believe that the dense duo couldn't be THAT crass. That would be a real idiot move.
snarkyatherbest said…
EJ must be doing alright because he's in the middle of his farewell tour.

But clearly with the duo not at any oscar party they are not part of the hollywood crowd they have markled themselves
Hikari said…
Swampie,

Is there really any doubt that the SixSh*ts are indeed both that stupid AND that crass? Of course they are. There are no depths to which they will not sink.

The longer this sh*t show drags on, the more I marvel that 2 such sadistic narcomaniacs existed and found each other across an ocean and a continent. PH was committing outrages long before he met *. I believe the ginger nut we see now Is the same as he’s always been within the booth some of his family and people that knew him well. He had the entire Palace machine covering up for him, and now all of those supports are gone and as his manager, image consultant and puppet master, all he’s got is his wife, who started devaluing him as soon as she’d collected her courtesy title.

The world, and two families, would have been infinitely better off had those two sociopathic grifters never been born.
DesignDoctor said…
@SwampWoman
I do believe hey could and would be that crass!
From personal experience, narcs do have unbelievably crass behaviors that normal people would not dream of doing!
lizzie said…
I do believe the Sussexes could be that clueless re: EJ's plane. Probably not quite the way it apparently was presented on Tumblr but close.

Maybe they tried to suggest they'd be happy to change the dates of their vacation (after all neither H nor M has a job)...say instead of the 1-7 of the month they'd be happy to change to the 5-11. Surely EJ would be ok with that! And he'd recognize their sacrifice! But maybe he didn't.

Or if not, well, they'd agree to allow him to use the plane during their vacation...sigh...if he really and truly needed it as long as it was available in X days for them. But maybe EJ acted like a big meanie and wanted it all to himself!

It's even possible they offered to share publicly how generous EJ had been to them and while they knew it would violate their privacy to share so much information they'd happily do it to help EJ out... but somehow EJ wasn't impressed by that and then they got huffy.

I do think it's significant they weren't at EJ's party. I personally think the phony PR about presenting an award this year came up only after they knew they weren't invited to anything.
HappyDays said…
Teasmade said…
I (like all of us) never expected to see her at the Oscars.

You would THINK that they'd be ashamed of starting these rumors (I know they're paid placements, not rumors), and then it never happening, would embarrass them.

@Teasmade:

I do not know how long you’ve been following the Susssex Saga, but the rumor about being asked to be presenters at the Oscars isn’t the first time a rumor like this was floated that wasn’t true but useful to attempt to pressure someone or in the case of the Oscars to cave-in and make the rumor true.

I recall that very shortly after the engagement was announced and it was announced that Meghan would be the first non spouse invited to spend Christmas with the royal family, a rumor persisted that Meghan’s mother Doria was also being invited so she would not have to spend Christmas apart from Meghan. That rumor never came true. Doria was not in the UK at Christmas 2017.

The second rumor was that the Queen was going to throw Meghan a birthday party for her birthday in August 2018. That didn’t happen.

The third rumor that I recall reading about, and this was a pretty weak rumor, was that Kate was going to throw a baby shower for Meghan in the UK. It seemed exceptionally odd because I’ve read that the British royals do not have baby showers because it is viewed as being in bad form. They already have the funds to purchase all the baby items they want or need.

Of course being in bad form apparently didn’t prevent Meghan being feted at a baby shower thrown for her in the US in New York City in February 2019 at an estimated cost ranging from about $230,000 (£175,000) up to just over about $430,000 (£328,000).
HappyDays said…
Teasmade said…
I (like all of us) never expected to see her at the Oscars.

You would THINK that they'd be ashamed of starting these rumors (I know they're paid placements, not rumors), and then it never happening, would embarrass them.

@Teasmade:

I do not know how long you’ve been following the Susssex Saga, but the rumor about being asked to be presenters at the Oscars isn’t the first time a rumor like this was floated that wasn’t true but useful to attempt to pressure someone or in the case of the Oscars to cave-in and make the rumor true.

I recall that very shortly after the engagement was announced and it was announced that Meghan would be the first non spouse invited to spend Christmas with the royal family, a rumor persisted that Meghan’s mother Doria was also being invited so she would not have to spend Christmas apart from Meghan. That rumor never came true. Doria was not in the UK at Christmas 2017.

The second rumor I remember was the Queen was going to throw Meghan a party for her birthday in August 2018. That didn’t happen.
OKay said…
@HappyDays I think that the rumours of a baby shower in the UK were also dismissed because Brits just don't do baby showers. Of course, Harry's wife didn't know that at the time she started blabbing about it.
HappyDays said…
OKay said…
@HappyDays I think that the rumours of a baby shower in the UK were also dismissed because Brits just don't do baby showers. Of course, Harry's wife didn't know that at the time she started blabbing about it.

@OKay: Thank you for including the rumor about Kate allegedly planning a UK baby shower for Meghan. That was also an event that did not happen.

You are exactly right. Royals do nit have baby showers because it is viewed as being tacky and generally in bad form because royals already have the funds to be able to purchase any baby items they need or want with their own money.
Fifi LaRue said…
Re: Sixsh*ts not attending Elton John's fundraiser. Back in the day I was acquainted with very wealthy people. The do-gooders held yearly fundraisers to help their favorite charity, such as Boys & Girls Club, hearing loss, etc. I was employed to be part of the entertainment at some of these functions. I can tell you that the people in those circles all supported each other's charity by making huge donations, showing up, and lending their name/the name of their business. It was part of their social strata. Trotter and Dollar not showing up at Elton John's fundraiser shows us that the grifters do not make donations to charities, they keep all their monies coming in from their "charities" for themselves. The Sixth*ts are not philanthropists. They are not charitable. They are grifters.
DeerAngels said…
Let me see if I have this right. So if EJ was ill and/or preparing or in middle of concert tour, they expected him to fly commercial or lease another plane? Yeppers I can believe it as it sounds like their mo.
Mel said…
Is it possible that the ex-royals were invited to Elton's after party but declined?

They either didn't want to or couldn't donate the dollars?
SwampWoman said…
I thought maybe Ginger Nuts would surprise us at the ceremony since his family connection is the *only* thing he has going for him. In light of this, I would speculate that the Family said no, you are not welcome.

Fredo is dead to them.
snarkyatherbest said…
FiFi. exactly right. it buys access. they think their names/titles alone should be enough but not in those circles.

glad trotter’s husband didn’t show. would have taken away from all of it. my guess was the family said no or yes but without the wife and without cameras (i read protocol from the service was no texting inside per one of the royal reporters). could you imagine if they were there. she would prob show up in red with a big arrow in her hat so they would be recognized in the distant picture. as it is we will prob see PR that the queen was crying because they weren’t there. and she perked up after with a video call with at cb ie and likibuck$.

i’m still fascinated on the will smith jada thing. i so think she has him wound up like a top (as my mom would say). and for all his bad behavior i think trotters husband is the same way. she brings out the worst in him and feeds the crazy narrative.
OCGal said…
@snarkyatherbest, you just brightened my day considerably!

What an hilarious mental image you gave us when you conjectured, that had Hazbeen and Trotter been at Prince Philip’s memorial service, “she would prob show up in red with a big arrow in her hat so they would be recognized in the distant picture.”

Oh, I do so hope that the vile twosome compulsively read this blog: Trotter will have a bruise on her forehead from smacking herself for not having thought of always wearing a hat sporting a gigantic arrow pointing straight at herself.

I give you a tip of the hat for the marvelous imagery.
lizzie said…
@HappyDays wrote: "...the British royals do not have baby showers because it is viewed as being in bad form. They already have the funds to purchase all the baby items they want or need."

I don't think it's just that the BRF doesn't do baby showers. They haven't been done in general in England & the UK although they are apparently becoming more popular these days. But they are seen gift grabs by just about everybody, not just royals. Also they are considered unlucky because showers are given when the baby hasn't been born & something could still go wrong.

https://americantobritain.weebly.com/traditions.html#:~:text=The%20English%20do%20not%20have,your%20eggs%20before%20they%20hatch.
According to one commentator, reacting to Andrew supporting HM at the service "Nobody has done more damage to the Royal Family in recent times than Prince Andrew."

Well, I think we'd dispute that. Not a proper assessment of relative damage, just appealing to that Puritanical sexual hypocrisy and outrage that so many of my fellow countrymen enjoy so much. I don't think he's even on a par with Edward VII. * &TW have blackened the reputation of us all in front of the world, as well as those whO should be their nearest & dearest.

I regard A's conduct as pretty reprehensible but still less sulphurous than that of his nephew
and his woman.
I’m struggling with the Andrew outrage. 🤔The man wasn’t arrested or found guilty of anything. His Father has died and he was at the Thanksgiving service to honour and remember his late Father. 😟 Prince Charles could’ve walked with The Queen but he didn’t, Andrew was in attendance because his Mother wanted him there and to support her. 😕

In a nutshell he had every right to be there. It was every bit personal and not public duty. 😕 Whether or not he should’ve been on such prominent display, no matter how short…is a matter and decision down to The Queen. 😕

I’m glad the two Muppets Maggot and Mole didn’t turn up (not that they were expected) at the Thanksgiving service. Lady C’s latest video goes into some depth how the two Muppets interview with Oprah is the disruptive force behind the recent racial issues which were levelled against the Cambridge’s during their Caribbean tour. 😔
lizzie said…
I agree @WBBM. I'm not cheering what Andrew did, but it's hard to see him as the the one person whose behavior has caused real damage to the BRF.

And what PA apparently did with that particular woman was done in a different time. I am old enough to remember things really were different, at least in the US. And look at the "famous" US citizens associated with Epstein. While we don't know exactly what they did, it was probably along the lines of what PA did. But nothing has happened with them and probably nothing ever will. And to me that behavior pales in comparison to Edward VIII's near-treason and H & M's constant accusations and appalling behavior anyway. But seeing sex as a problem is politically correct these days (or rather seeing certain kinds of sex as a problem is PC.)
Henrietta said…
Mel said:

Is it possible that the ex-royals were invited to Elton's after party but declined? They either didn't want to or couldn't donate the dollars?


I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that they were invited and declined for any reason. I don't think MM would be able to stop herself from going if she was invited.

There's some gossip going around that the Sussexes' fell out with EJ and DF over the use of EJ's private jet. (I'm sorry I didn't note the source.) But my guess is the bigger break in the friendship had something to do with "Pearl." David probably knew when to stop pushing it to Netflix and MM probably just kept going, smartest person in the room and all that.
Henrietta said…
Apologies for not reading further up the thread re EJ.
Longview said…


Blind Gossip:
Family Stunt Is Being Planned

March 29, 2022

You may have noticed that for the past few years, this actress has presented excuse after excuse as to why she can’t travel.

It’s not that she can’t travel.

She can. And she does. A lot.

She has moved several times, including between countries. She has no problem hopping on a plane to see friends or to attend significant social events where she can be seen.

The travel limitations only seem to suddenly kick in when it comes to visiting family.

She’s pregnant. Or she’s given birth. Or she is tending to the child/ren. Or she is concerned about Covid. Or concerned about security. Or whatever.

While she and her famous husband appear to have been nothing but royal pains to both of their families, they love to talk as if they are all about family and happiness and positivity.

Similar to Will Smith spouting some word salad about how he is a vessel for love five minutes after smacking Chris Rock across the face, the words and the actions of our couple just don’t match up.

Yet our couple is so image conscious that they are not above starting their own rumors to make themselves look happy and successful and busy and important.

Yes, they started that rumor about being asked to present at [a recent televised event].

It was a lie, just like the last time they started that same rumor.

Oh, boy.

Anyway, we hear that they are planning yet another publicity stunt!

Apparently, this one will involve the family. They will be playing up to some relatives on his side whom they have treated badly in the past.

They absolutely need to keep that association with his family. They know they are nothing without it. To that end, they are working on a way to keep that association forever.

The gesture has to signal that they are being respectful and genuinely care about the family. However, they will be the only ones deriving any benefit from it.

The scheming never seems to stop with these two!

Snippy said…
@gfbcpa, Oh my gosh, thank you for posting that link! I had no idea H had assaulted the beloved Taylor Hawkins! Very likely 1. he has a huge sense of entitlement to assume he could get away with doing violence to someone knowing there would be repercussions, and 2. that probably wasn't the first time he's inflicted violence an someone. That kind of action is not a one-off and doesn't come out of nowhere.
HappyDays said…
lizzie said: I don't think it's just that the BRF doesn't do baby showers. They haven't been done in general in England & the UK although they are apparently becoming more popular these days. But they are seen gift grabs by just about everybody, not just royals. Also they are considered unlucky because showers are given when the baby hasn't been born & something could still go wrong.

@lizzie: You’re right, in England and the UK, baby showers are not popular. Thank you for the reminder.

As a narcissist, Meghan is all about collecting as much high-end merch as possible, especially if it’s free. I have read multiple times that if an event had any sort of goodie bag or gift room for people attending the event, Meghan was sure to be there to pick up as much swag as possible for herself. Unless they have been removed from various sites, I also recall photos of Meghan either at the swag rooms or with gift bags she picked up at the swag rooms.
Rebecca said…
Prince Philip’s memorial service was lovely, and it was heartwarming to see 5 of the great-grandchildren there. Although I’m glad Ginger Nuts didn’t make it, his absence drew a great deal of (deserved) negative press. Seeing how shrunken and frail the Queen looks made his selfishness and egotism all the more egregious. In my book he has gone from being an epic embarrassment to a bona fide villain.



HappyDays said…
Rebecca said: Seeing how shrunken and frail the Queen looks made his selfishness and egotism all the more egregious.

@Rebecca: I’m guessing that since he will be in the neighborhood so to speak, and his grandmother is truly showing her frailty, Harry might try to sneak into the UK after his Invictus event to see the Queen and then sneak out.

If Meghan manages to prevail and keep their two kids away from the UK because of her narcissistic pettiness and need to always get her way, well let’s just say I wouldn’t want to be Harry or Meghan and have to face Harry’s family and the British public at a royal funeral.

Meghan would have to come up with quite a whopper of an excuse to not attend the funeral of HMTQ.
Hikari said…
Happy Days,

Depending on how soon Her Majesty leaves us, Smeg could always arrange to be heavily pregnant again. That’s what she did the last time there was a Royal funeral. And in my own opinion, which is admittedly not shared by all, that was quite a whopper of an excuse if she wasn’t actually carrying a child. That time or the first time either. She never has original ideas, so I wouldn’t put it past her to try and “squeeze out another one”. I just can’t For the life of me imagine that if she actually had two adorable tots living with her full-time, That she could so resolutely for years on end resist trotting them out for photo ops, Particularly after an event like yesterday with so many cute royal children in attendance. You’d expect her to do everything possible to compete, But she hasn’t, and that makes me ask why.

I’m going to make a statement which will prove to be controversial, and I may well be wrong, but at this point in time, I believe that we will never again see either of the odious pair at any Royal event. After Harry’s egregious behavior at the funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh, and the unveiling of the Diana statue, I think he’s done. The Oprah interview has caused too much damage, and the royal family knows that those conniving worms would not respect protocols one iota and would attempt to secretly tape or film these events, in all likelihood to get fresh blackmail material over more allegedly racist treatment of Harry’s wife or similar. Personally I think Smeg is banned from the UK for life, Harry’s wife or not. She never did bother to become a citizen, and there very well could be some criminal irregularities and she’s been advised to stay out of the country or face prosecution. As for Harry, Who has sunk lower then a snake’s testicles In the estimation of his family and the British public, neither do I think he will ever darken a Royal threshold, at least publicly. I do not think we will see him at the Queen‘s funeral, nor the coronation of his father or brother. His presence would overshadow these events through his notoriety. He is a traitor to his family, and why should they tolerate his presence amongst them for any reason? He gave up his right to be included in anything. Especially after his ghostwritten book comes out, he will be shunned. A whinefest in which he will no doubt accuse members of his family of killing his mother, etc. is not going to heal any rifts. Frankly, when surveying the prospect of H living another 50 or 60 years like this, I don’t really see what he will have left to live for. Dumb toxic clod.
Elsbeth1847 said…
The idea of trying for fresh blackmail plus secret filming or taping - I could see that with a potential of spouting off in a similar vein as When did you stop beating your wife kind of comment but about the alleged racist comment.

snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari i hope you are right that he/they won’t be at any royal event. gotta smart all the press coverage especially if the royal great grand children who did know their great grandfather sadly it was also good prep for what this coming up. the poor queen looks so frail i think she will do her darnedest to complete the jubilee but after that …. so it’s on weak king charles to determine what will happen. and he is hard to read. maybe it will be easier once the son trashed the family in his upcoming book
Mel said…
Hikari...agree with all of it. Deeply concerned about H. He is not a happy, satisfied,
or contented person. Definitely don't get dad vibes from him the way you do from PW.

Mm being banned, definitely agree, wish we knew more about that.
I’ll wade in here and say banning anyone from entering the UK isn’t in anyway straightforward or easy. The fact we don’t easily ban the dangerous and the potential life threatening types should tell you all you need to know that Maggot isn’t banned. She might be seen as persona non grata but sadly nothing along the official lines. 😟
lizzie said…
@Hikari, The only part of your statement I find "controversial" (in that I think it's very unlikely) is your statement that M has been banned from the UK for life.

Even leaving aside M is the granddaughter-in-law of the Queen and the daughter-in-law of the PoW, its not that easy for a country to "ban" someone who: is married to one of its "prominent" citizens and supposedly the mother of two others AND has been admitted many times before so any record of past criminal offenses was deemed not a problem AND has been married in that country AND (most likely) did apply for UK citizenship albeit did not complete the process AND is from a country whose citizens do not need a visa to enter the UK AND holds a valid US passport. I also seriously doubt if there had been a ban it would have been conveyed to M that the ban means if she tries to enter the UK she will be admitted but then will be prosecuted for past UK crimes. I mean either she's banned or she isn't.

I know lots of people think there could be a ban so I may be in the minority but I just don't think that has happened. I also don't think H is a good actor nor is he able to keep his feelings to himself. If any of that had happened, H would be showing signs and/or would have made a comment essentially giving away the big secret. (Surely we don't think all that would be a secret from H if it had happened.) Honestly I put this in the same category as the college super glue story. Fantastic and extremely unlikely to be true for lots of reasons. But none of us can know for sure!
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: You have been very insightful concerning the Suxsh*ts...

They probably have received calls from a Personal Secretary that Haznoballs and Trotter would be advised not to visit during official events, that no royal car would pick them up, no quarters would be made available for their stay, that their presence is divisive. A private visit with JH, maybe, but probably not. Seeing as how no one would get within a 10-foot pole of JH at PH's funeral or the statue unveiling says everything.

You just know that if Trotter did show up for HMTQ's funeral service, she'd be dressed in something outlandish, grinning the entire time, looking for all the cameras, besides having hidden cameras and mics on her person.

There are no Harkle children. If they existed, Trotter would have them dressed adorably, and they'd be photographed endlessly, especially during Royal family events. The children would be the perfect foil to take away attention from the Royals.
Look! Haznoballs is teaching Archie to ride a bike. Trotter is baking in the kitchen with Lilli, a photograph and their favorite recipe in the pages of People magazine. But, no, nothing like this occurs because there aren't any children.
Maneki Neko said…
No invitation to the Oscars? Fear not, there's always the Beckham's bash!

'Spice Girl Mel B has sparked speculation the Duke and Duchess of Sussex may be attending Brooklyn Beckham's wedding, after she revealed Victoria and David are inviting their own friends to the big day next weekend.'
The wedding is in Palm Beach but I don't know if it's safe for them to travel to Florida 😉? It wouldn't look too good after them missing Philip's memorial but I'm sure all the celebrity mags would give them a lot of coverage, which is all that seems to matter to them (her). They would claim Florida is safer anyway - if they are invited and they go, that is.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10668389/Will-Harry-Meghan-guests-honour-Brooklyn-Beckhams-wedding.html
snarkyatherbest said…
So Alec Baldwin’s “spanish” wife just announced baby number 7 just as things are coming down the pike on his murder charge. so i am thinking it’s possible that we could have a third trotter pregnancy for the jubilee and another for the Queen’s passing. and then there is charles coronation. Prince of Wales investiture for Will.Harry could be on the hook for a dozen babies here soon 😉. maybe to get some or traction Archie will come out just to appease the Disney execs 😉
Enbrethiliel said…
Hello, fellow Nutties!

I've finally settled into my new place and have leisure time for blogging again. I confess, though, that taking time away from the Dollar drama was the vacation my spirit hadn't known it needed.

Re: Will Smith's assault of Chris Rock at the Oscars

This is the best analysis I've heard on the incident. Start at @41:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62mKyOPWC9k

For those who'd rather read, here is what the guy said: "Let's put this into perspective real quick. Let's break down what actually happened here. Will Smith did not slap Chris Rock because Chris Rock made fun of Jada. That did not happen. That is not true. That is the narrative people want you to believe. Chris Rock makes fun of Jada Pinkett-Smith and her bald head and Will Smith goes up and gallantly protects his lady. Right? That's the narrative. Will Smith slapped Chris Rock because Will Smith can't slap Jada . . .

Jada Pinkett-Smith -- didn't take his last name, by the way . . . What she also did, I don't know if you guys remember, but Jada called will a cu*k on her show . . .
[The streamer gives some background on Jada's affair with August Alsina, a friend of her son, which began when August was still a minor] And by the way, it wasn't just this instance . . . of Will doing this. This one thing, oh, she cheated on him, whatever . . . This lady unmans will on [her live talk show]. And since then, for two years now, Will has been Hollywood's cu*k . . . Will has been trying to reclaim masculinity from this event with Jada, since it happened. He can't do it though. He can't find the way. And that's because Will has lost it. He doesn't know how to be a man anymore.

And of course I immediately thought of the Dollars. Harry certainly doesn't know how to be a man anymore. And one day, he may go down the same path Smith has and try to reclaim his masculinity by doing something stereotypically male (e.g. "defending his wife's honor"). But whatever he does, it won't have any real sense of manliness, strength, courage, principle or character behind it. It will be the equivalent of an impoverished aristocrat flashing a counterfeit designer bag. They're the clearance rack royals and he's a clearance rack man.

The only thing missing from the analysis is the very high possibility that Jada Pinkett-Smith is a narcissist. The Smiths supposedly have an open marriage; but in that case, why was Will so torn up when he was on Jada's show to talk about the affair? (Choosing a teenage friend of your own son as an affair partner is totally what a narc would do. It shows up your husband, your son and maybe even your daughter, in one fell swoop. Jada's later devaluation of August by calling what he thought was a beautiful relationship a mere "entanglement" is legendary.) The livestreamer also mentions that Jada was especially focused on debunking the idea that Will had given her "permission" to have an affair -- a narrative would have let him save face somewhat. By insisting that "permission" on his part had never been necessary and that she would have done what she wanted anyway, she just humiliated him further. Which was probably her entire aim.

Anyway, I'm pretty certain that * has taken some notes. Her new goal is to clear the bar that Jada has set and to make Harry humiliate himself in public to defend her. That is, to humiliate himself even more than he already has.
Museumstop said…
Just wanted to say that after my learning curve with the 'tone-deaf' Caribbean tour variety of 'journalism', it's now the turn of the Prince Andrew memorial commentary.

Totally agree with WBBM, Raspberry Riffle and lizzie.

It's prejudice before facts, Twitter-grade virtue pandering before rationale. Hmpf.
NeutralObserver said…
Have to wonder if Charles is behind all the Andrew vitriol. He seems to get a bit fratricidal at times. I vaguely recall some sort of spats over kilts & loos.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1254725/prince-charles-news-prince-edward-royal-family-feud-kilt-scotland-spt

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4515693/queen-prince-andrew-charles-toilet-fight/

I'm not an Andrew fan. He seems pompous & dim, not a good combination. As for the lawsuit, the allegations have not been proven beyond a doubt, & even if true, his behavior was legal at the time & in the places it is alleged to have occurred. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Andrew feels he has fallen on his sword by settling the suit, so his' mother's jubilee won't be spoiled. He probably felt entitled to walk his mother to her seat at his father's memorial service, & I can't really fault him for doing so as a family member, however badly it reflected on 'the Firm.'

I see Andrew's behavior as very unappealing personal acts, but Edward VIII & Harry's acts are political, & therefore much more dangerous & troubling.

I have no idea what has really gone on in the Andrew situation. Lady Colin Campbell's entertaining videos cast doubt on the numbers being thrown around as to the size of the monetary award, as well as Prince Andrew's behavior. One of her videos even made me wonder if Andrew is gay. She kept emphasizing his naval service. In the USA, the navy is often jokingly referred to as the 'gay' branch of the military, you know, all those months & months at sea on ships & submarines.

Andrew does seem to be vulnerable to flattery from very dubious rich people, so he is a danger to the RF in that respect, but many of them have had lapses of that sort. We know that there's no love lost between Charles & his younger brother, & he's been accused of being envious of his popular oldest son & his wife. What a twerp Charles seems to be.

I thought the memorial service looked lovely & was happy that the queen could pay tribute to her beloved husband in a fitting way, although I thought the actual funeral was bleakly beautiful & fitting as well.
My bet is that * is now a permanent persona non grata whose presence is deemed not to be conducive to the public good.

At least, I hope so.
Mel said…
Mm might not be formally banned, but perhaps told in no uncertain terms that if she sets foot on British soil there will be legal consequences for whatever it is that she has done?

But she'll probably get away with it all. She sure seems to be adept at escaping consequences for her nasty behavior.
snarkyatherbest said…
Enbre. welcome back. i agree with your jada assessment. does make you wonder what harry will do to prove himself. cut off his family blow them up in a book and for what. it will only destroy him and she will walk away. however if jada and trotters ever get into it my money is with jada. now that cat fight i would pay for.

neutral observer. i do like the royal occasionally complaining and explaining but the andrew dust up in the press as a result of the memorial service is just stupid. i’m curious who was allowed to talk to the press. is charles putting up edward to prove he deserves the DoE title by doing his biding and complaining. did charles do it. did will do it because i’m now thinking it could be. it takes the press away from the spin on the caribbean tour and everyone assumes it’s charles complaining again.

wbbm. we know she reads here. we dare her to go to the UK. prove to us that you weren’t banned. and we don’t mean a photoshop of you and likibuck$ in front of Buckingham Palace waving at granny 😉
Welcome back Embre, great to see you, we’ve missed your input! 😃
lizzie said…
@Mel wrote "Mm might not be formally banned, but perhaps told in no uncertain terms that if she sets foot on British soil there will be legal consequences for whatever it is that she has done?"

But what has M done that would have meaningful legal consequences? It must not involve Harry since he's free to enter the UK...Surely she couldn't have pulled off a surrogate birth/"warming pan baby inserted into the LoS" situation without Harry catching on. And he went on the record in the stables taking about the birth of his son. Anything else we've speculated about M doing was mostly tasteless, I'd think, not illegal. And if there was a financial crime involving either the Royal Foundation or Sussex Royal, she wouldn't be the only one on the hot seat. I just can't see a legal threat situation as a viable way to keep her out of the country. Plus who is supposed to have delivered this threat?
Henrietta said…
Neutral Observer said:

As for the lawsuit, the allegations have not been proven beyond a doubt, & even if true, his behavior was legal at the time & in the places it is alleged to have occurred.


The allegation against him by Guiffre is sex trafficking: that she was brought to specific locations by Epstein et al. to have sexual relations with others, including Andrew, and she had been too terrorized to say no or run away. In the U.S., when he allegedly had sex with her in New York, she was 17, under the age of majority in that state.

Sex trafficking is never legal at the times and in the locations where it occurs nor is sex with a minor. (In the U.S., this is called statutory rape.)
Henrietta said…
Lizzie said:

But what has M done that would have meaningful legal consequences?


Well nothing that we here on this blog can prove, but I can think of lots of things that could have possibly happened! The top three being having illicit substances in one's possession, buying or selling such substances, and drunk driving.

It's one thing to be royal by birth and to engage in those activities, but it's something else entirely if you're a newcomer who has married into the Royal Family without the Queen's approval and who then proceeds to provoke her! I would love to see her attempt to re-enter the UK because I feel absolutely sure she's either been banned from the country because of her illegal behavior and/or she would be facing criminal charges upon her return.

Maybe she'll be reckless enough to try it when Charles succeeds to the throne.

We can but hope!
@Lizzie

perhaps it was getting designer clothing free, wearing it, sending it back and then charging Charles the full value and pocketing the money? Or merching and pocketing the money? (Royals do not merch. period.)
Hikari said…
I don’t think Trotter would potentially be in trouble with the Home Office for merching or defrauding Charles of her wardrobe allowance. The Mysterious House, Frogmore Cottage, appears to have absorbed untold millions of pounds for reno and furnishings that may never have actually materialized…but if anyone with fiscal authority gave the grifting American newbie any sort of blank cheque for that property, that’s on them.

I think if there are serious charges against *, they are likely drug related—I’m not talking a dime bag here and there for personal use, but something more large scale. H used to send his equerries out for “gear”, but what a blood Prince of the realm may do, Especially the son of the future king, and what his imported foreigner short term bride with the dodgy past and the equally dodgy acquaintances may do before official tolerance is exhausted is different, I imagine.

The crime that would trump all is interfering in the line of succession as many suspect she has done. Twice. Harry is complicit too…which is why he is also in exile. I think “Megxit” is a smokescreen. They were permitted the face-saving fiction that leaving was their own idea and they did it on their terms. If we disregard that propaganda for a moment and consider that they were forcibly ejected from the Royal family, Not because they were lazy or pushy or dressed badly or sucked up to Hollywood types instead of performing royal duties…But because of “Archie” and the show they put on for all those months before and after he “was born”—Their subsequent actions make sense in the light of being entirely a vendetta against the family that has repudiated them and their schemes. As long as they draw breath they are not going to stop making the royal family pay for refusing to play their games.

I don’t believe for a moment that * ever started any citizenship process or intended to. Just like she and H didn’t present their baby at the American embassy in London to register the birth of an American citizen abroad. Archie and Lilibet would be entitled to dual citizenship, if they were real, and what is photo opportunity that would’ve been back in London…Something Smeg could do for press that Catherine never could—*and yet Smeg never did it*.

I have my certainty.
snarkyatherbest said…
Lady Musty the clothes could be considered fraud. i like the buying selling of illegal substance idea. some say she has some goods on harry. perhaps they told her stay away or we will unleash all we have on you. that would certainly keep her away.

saw a squad member on scoobie do twitter with a meme on royal mistresses with the rose rumor in there. i used to get angry about that stuff. now when they do crap like that it just means all of this is getting to them. the positive cambridge appearances in particular.

hmmm are trotter and her husband waiting til invictus for us to have any sightings. will she show. if not maybe the ban is like a protection order can’t get within 1,000 miles of the Queen 😉. will she stay home with a little buggy pap walk. easier with lilibuck$ harder with archie. will she release her podcast where she interviews herself on the first day of invictus? lots of questions here
Fifi LaRue said…
What did Trotter do that was illegal...hmmm...how about blackmail?

Faking a pregnancy to try to get a plastic doll in the line of succession...

Drugs...

Lying about being pregnant, and forcing a marriage...

Blackmail...

Lying about the condition of one's body, intersex, then announcing an impossible pregnancy.
snarkyatherbest said…
oh hikari yes maybe something more extensive like bringing drugs back into the country from trips abroad? maybe there wasn’t a “surrogate” but there was a child trafficking scheme to acquire a baby illegally. that could be part of it.
i agree. she/they were kicked out hence her coming to social media to announce it like it was their idea. and also the vindictiveness by going after the family. brf should have just had them/her arrested. the uproar would be short lived. they could have feigned ignorance. blame it on that divorcee american and showed the country that no one and none of them were above the law.
I read somewhere that Epstein wanted to bring down the Royal Family -can't recall where I read it. Might it be over Diana? Was he connected with Soho House? Might he & his associates be the conspirators?
Maneki Neko said…
@Henrietta said

It's one thing to be royal by birth and to engage in those activities, but it's something else entirely if you're a newcomer who has married into the Royal Family without the Queen's approval and who then proceeds to provoke her!
-----
Unfortunately, the Queen did give her consent the marriage, officially anyway, although I'm sure she and others must have had reservations...

I'd love to see her barred from entering the UK but as she hasn't been charged with a crime, then she can come here. Immigration-wise, she's free to enter the country ☹
.........

@Fifi

I think * being intersex is an interesting theory but impossible to prove. * could have used surrogacy - again, we can't prove it, unfortunately - because she wanted to keep her nether regions, which have served her so well, intact. In any case, a narc like her wouldn't probably sacrifice her body to the discomfort of pregnancy and the indignities and pain of labour.

lizzie said…
I won't quote anyone since several folks answered my question about what M may have done legally wrong but I will comment.

I had mentioned the warming pan baby possibility in my post but find it pretty unlikely law enforcement (LE) in the UK knows anything about Archie's birth. But if they do, then the RF including The Queen must be knowingly complicit in maintaining the fiction that Archie is in the LoS, not merely suspicious but choosing to look the other way. (And if he doesn't exist, who did the Archbishop baptize? That event is in the court circular. Is the CoE complicit too?) Surely if LE had proof that either Archie doesn't exist or that he was a surrogate birth that wouldn't be kept secret from HMTQ. (Heck, keeping it secret from her could even be a crime for LE!) And the new idea that M is intersex... I do not buy that. But if M lied to convince H to marry her, depending on what the lie was, that likely isn't a crime. It might invalidate the marriage though. It's certainly not a provable crime without Harry's help. And who is she supposed to be blackmailing? Harry? Again, not only do we not have proof, the authorities can't prove it either without H's help. M would have to be an idiot to not realize that.

Some of the things mentioned like accepting freebies are tasteless & tacky but aren't crimes. I know royals aren't supposed to do that but it's not a crime if they do. And depending on how the support from Charles was set up, selling off clothes bought with a clothing allowance may or may not be a crime. And even if it might be, Charles would probably have to assist in any prosecution. But as has been mentioned here before, if he's using Duchy of Cornwall money for the support of either of his adult sons and their wives, that's technically not ok. As people have stated here that money is supposed to support Charles's household, not the households of his adult sons.

I don't doubt M&H used drugs. Harry publicly admitted to drug use in the past. But assuming they used & possessed drugs in the UK recently I'm not sure how M could possibly prosecuted without H being caught up too. Do we expect LE to announce H gets a pass because he's royal? At least right now H is free to enter the UK even if he's in "exile" in CA. And the idea that M was peddling drugs on a Mafia-type level seems extraordinarily unlikely to me

Finally, I may have missed it but who is supposed to have told M she'll be prosecuted if she returns? New Scotland Yard/Metro Police? The folks involved in H's court case? Or something like MI5? Would MI5 really get involved in the peddling of clothes? Or what was whispered in H's ear to get him to the altar? With all the serious crime and terrorism, I know that's not the sort of thing I'd want to see the FBI working on in the US!
snarkyatherbest said…
Lizzie. agree with a lot. at this point if the royals covered anything up it looks bad. i think the charles clothes thing was he paid for clothes and they were actually loaners so if she defrauded by submitting fake receipts for items she never owned that could be fraud. i think the surrogacy has legs in that she was keen to photoshop the queen into a pic quickly . the royals knew and now they are complicit. the coverup is worse than the crime (just ask richard nixon 😉) i think we egg her on and try to get her to prove she can come to the UK. she could show up and dance naked in St James Square but not be at any official function. fly out for the prince philip funeral last year or the diana statue unveiling but not be there but couch support your husband who’s a snowflake and likely needed support as those were likely difficult for him in light of all that had gone on. she could have set up the royal family by showing she was supporting her husband but they were being vindictive by. i inviting her. but she didn’t which to me is telling that she won’t comeback or can’t comeback
Henrietta said…
Snarky said:

will she release her podcast where she interviews herself on the first day of invictus?


LOL!


I'm not 100% sure where I heard this -- probably LSA -- but there's a Reddit "thread" that's named something like "St.MeghanMarkle" and they're essentially having an open house where posters can ask questions of another commenter, secondhandcoke, who has a Hollywood contact with info on MM. I'm not very good at Reddit so hopefully that's enough info for you guys to find it if you're interested.

Secondhand really has a lot of tea, but here's some of it:

~ the Harkles weren't invited to any Oscar week events.
~ they were not invited to EJ's party basically for a reason I had hypothesized, that she and David Furnish had a falling out over Pearl.
~ that Spotify is willing to let MM do a podcast or series of them, which they anticipate will bomb, because they're trying to claw back whatever they can of their advance money.
~ she confirmed that MM really blew it with Disney by walking in with a list of demands and requests typical of Mariah Carey and then did such a bad job with the voice-over.
~ said she'd heard the same rumors about the UN that everyone else has heard of their getting kicked out for covert taping. Also that they were both deflated when there were more security people than fans at their events.
~ and basically just saying the MM has burned bridges all over town and nobody wants to socialize with them or do business with them because of her craziness and her antics.

There's a lot of really good tea over there. I'll see if I can post a link.
Henrietta said…
Reddit link I mentioned before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/tqkxo6/ama_your_chance_to_ask_usecondhandcoke_a_question/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

You can access secondhandcoke's previous comments on Reddit similar to how you do it on the DM.
OKay said…
@Henrietta The age of consent in New York state is 17, raised from 14 in 2017. No, Virginia was NOT illegal where and when Andrew met her.
Fifi LaRue said…
As Hikari has sleuthed, the Harkles were told to get out after they showed up in South Africa with toddler "Archie" that no one in the RF had ever set eyes on.

Blackmail: Hazbeen with his hand trying to loosen his collar when Trotter crashed some event at which he attended with Trudeau.
And Hazbeen's hand over his mouth like he's trying not to vomit at his own wedding.
Trotter forced him into the marriage.

Drugs, major quantities. That's how one person gets another to be compliant.
Henrietta said…
Blogger OKay said...

@Henrietta The age of consent in New York state is 17, raised from 14 in 2017. No, Virginia was NOT illegal where and when Andrew met her.


I'm mistaken then. I confused it with the age of majority in New York which is 18.
KnitWit said…
I just checked out the reddut link.

They are sharing links that Obie Scobie is facing bankruptcy.
HappyDays said…
Interesting item about the Harkles in today’s Blind Gossip. I included a comment that may prove to be quite prophetic. I think anabelle77 ‘s prediction that the Harkles will ask Catherine to be godmother to Lilibucks is a cunning strategy for the Harkles to maintain their attachment to the royal family for decades to come. Let’s face it, the Queen is nearing the end of her life and Charles is in his 70s, so neither will be around longer than the Harkles.

William and Kate are the future of the monarchy and they are popular, so who better to hitch your wagon to for the next 40 or 50 years?

I hope Kate does not agree to be used by Meghan and Harry.

Besides, when the Harkles eventually christen Lilibucks, they will likely hold the ceremony in a bank because they worship the almighty dollar/pound above everything else.

BLIND GOSSIP
March 31, 2023

You may have noticed that for the past few years, this actress has presented excuse after excuse as to why she can’t travel.

It’s not that she can’t travel.

She can. And she does. A lot.

She has moved several times, including between countries. She has no problem hopping on a plane to see friends or to attend significant social events where she can be seen.

The travel limitations only seem to suddenly kick in when it comes to visiting family.

She’s pregnant. Or she’s given birth. Or she is tending to the child/ren. Or she is concerned about Covid. Or concerned about security. Or whatever.

While she and her famous husband appear to have been nothing but royal pains to both of their families, they love to talk as if they are all about family and happiness and positivity.

Similar to Will Smith spouting some word salad about how he is a vessel for love five minutes after smacking Chris Rock across the face, the words and the actions of our couple just don’t match up.

Yet our couple is so image conscious that they are not above starting their own rumors to make themselves look happy and successful and busy and important.

“Yes, they started that rumor about being asked to present at [a recent televised event].”

“It was a lie, just like the last time they started that same rumor.”

Oh, boy.

Anyway, we hear that they are planning yet another publicity stunt!

Apparently, this one will involve the family. They will be playing up to some relatives on his side whom they have treated badly in the past.

They absolutely need to keep that association with his family. They know they are nothing without it. To that end, they are working on a way to keep that association forever.

The gesture has to signal that they are being respectful and genuinely care about the family. However, they will be the only ones deriving any benefit from it.

The scheming never seems to stop with these two!

Comments section:

annabelle77 says
I’m predicting they will ask Catherine to be Lilibet’s Godmother. They know Catherine is a kind person who tries to take the high road at all times. William will be livid. Harry and Meghan are just slimy and sleazy enough to do this. I hope to hell the Cambridges tell them to take a long walk off a short pier.
Re idea of Royal cover up:

Perhaps the thinking was `Now isn't the time to deal with it - it may only become relevant when H is No1-in-line and that, God willing, may never happen.

They didn't realise that M was incapable of leaving it at that and waiting patiently like a good girl to see if her chance came about by natural causes. By that time, we all might have loved her & not looked too closely.

Some hope.
Maneki Neko said…
Hollywood A-listers Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have reportedly hired Sony Pictures alumna Fara Taylor to lead the marketing for their new media company, Archewell.
. . .
Taylor is also a founding member of I am a voter, a nonprofit civic organization that was founded by current Archewell COO Dayani, who joined the team just three months before Taylor.

Dayani reports directly to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, and oversees growth strategy and day-to-day operations at the company, according to Fortune Magazine.

She said at the time that she joined the company because 'I am so inspired by the vision and unwavering dedication of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to create a more united, truthful, safe and equitable world.

'I am thrilled to build upon our shared mission to drive systemic cultural change.'
-------------
'inspired by the vision and unwavering dedication of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex' 🙄. Translation: more of the same drivel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10673395/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-hire-Fara-Taylor-lead-marketing-Archewell.html.
Henrietta said…
One interesting passage from secondhandcoke:

My understanding for alm the press about collaborating with David Furnish, Meghan had no interest in an actual collaboration and kept expecting Furnish to say he [had] participated in the creation of a show that drastically is basically a plagiarized copy of better women's work. David Furnish is a legitimate writer. I know Meghan THINKS she also is, but we've seen the shit she's written, and given that she cannot write, and is nowhere close to developing an original thought in the next few years, people with real talent who have built by reliable reputations for themselves are running for the hills, far, far away from the deranged duchess.

Some other tidbits from her:

• She doesn't expect MM to work again as an actress in Hollywood because of all her burnt bridges.

• She confirmed BG's story of MM making a play for Gates. Says she also made a play for Bezos and multiple other men.

• Says St. Laurent left because of how MM treated her.

• Says no one in Hollywood is taking either Harry's or her calls.

• Says Spotify was the partner who threatened her with legal action if they didn't get some product before a certain deadline in a big sit-down meeting.

• She's heard Harry was at the rodeo for a Netflix assignment.

• Netflix thinks they can still get some product out of Harry (e.g., Invictus and maybe something else involving that rodeo appearance).

• Says that they fired 20 staff in 2020.

• Says Harry's been seen in San Francisco with a blonde co-worker from BetterUp (no name, she's not a public person).

• Says MM's ability to merch clothes is drying up because she's no longer sample size and her reputation has tanked.

• Says to expect more gossip about her because as individual sources come forward, they embolden others.

• Disputes the claim that the Elephant movie had already been narrated before MM's doing so, and she gives the backstory to the elephant donation fee. Apparently she talked Disney into making out the check to Archewell for tax purposes. Then, when Disney checked back to make sure it had been donated to the elephant charity, she never got back to them. (Hence the rumors that she never actually sent the money.)

One thing that surprised me the most was that she even talked about how MM has a personality disorder that can't be treated. Damn! Never expected to hear that Hollywood executives used psychology experts in handling their business matters!

OCGal said…
@Henrietta, thank you so much for the juicy synopsis of secondhandcoke’s Reddit Ask Me Anything on #6 and #666.

I loved reading your synopsis!
Longview said…

Another Blind Gossip. Someone in the RF needs to pull Harry's cousin into line. This is unbelievable.

When Hairy Met Salad
March 31, 2022 Blind Gossip

We told you that this celebrity couple was planning some sort of of stunt involving family.

At the time, we did not know what they were planning.

We do now!

We’ll call our celebrity couple Hairy and Salad.

When they first met several years ago, it only took a couple of weeks before they began planning an entire life together. Salad would leave her acting career so they could live a life of meaning, living overseas, raising a large family and healing the world together.

It hasn’t really worked out that way.

Something that is especially irksome to Salad is the fact that her last child did not have the impact she expected.

She was unable to score the multi-million-dollar payday she wanted from the media. She even named the baby after one of Hairy’s famous relatives, hoping that would cement both the child’s legacy and fortune. It did not. If anything, the bonds of family have broken down even more.

Instead of giving up… Salad is now doubling down!

Enter Hairy’s female cousin and her husband.

Hairy and Salad recently hosted Cuz and Hubs on their home turf.

Was it a simple family reunion, full of laughter, catching up on family news and enjoying the sight of all their lookalike children running around?

Ha! Don’t you know Hairy and Salad at all?

This was a business meeting. About money and family. In that order.

It turns out that Cuz and Hubs are in dire financial straits. Although both have jobs, her family situation and his bad business gamble have practically wiped them out. They are now worth less than $2 million. That might seem like a lot of money to most people. However, when you are part of high society, that kind of bank doesn’t get you too far!

Hairy and Salad are not nearly as wealthy as they pretend to be, but they do have a lot more money than Cuz and Hubs. They decided to use that to their advantage.

You see, Hairy and Salad want another baby. But not for the reasons that most people want a baby.

They want another baby primarily to name it after [Hairy’s father and brother]. That way [Hairy’s father and brother] can never completely cut them out as the child would be their namesake.

Unfortunately, Salad is unable to conceive. While we don’t exactly know why, her advanced age may be a factor.

This is where Cuz and Hubs come in. Hairy and Salad know all about Cuz and Hubs’ financial woes. So they made them a proposition.

Hairy and Salad asked Cuz to act as their surrogate. For cash!

Hairy and Salad offered Cuz and Hubs the princely sum of $1.5 million upon delivery, plus an additional $1 million after the baby’s first birthday and $.5 million after the baby’s second birthday.

The plan is for the two women to be “pregnant” at the same time. Ideally, [Cuz] will conceive twins. One will go to [Hairy and Salad] and one will stay with [Cuz and Hubs].

After a lot of discussion, Cuz and Hubs agreed. They will be using Hairy’s sperm and Cuz’s eggs so both babies will be related to both couples. No, Hairy and Cuz will not be sleeping together! This will all be done via IVF. We don’t know what they will do if only one child is conceived.

It is a very practical arrangement.

Actually, it does work for both couples.

Harry and Salad will get the namesake baby… Cuz and Hubs will get $3 million, which will more than double their net worth… Cuz and Hubs can go on to have other children if they like… and all of the children will be lookalike blood relatives (just in an unusual way).

Now we just have to wait for Salad and Cuz to announce their “pregnancies”!

Snippy said…
@Longview, that must be their April Fools post, cause I doubt Hairy and Salad have $3 mil to toss around. (“toss”, “Salad”, see what I did there hehe)
Fifi LaRue said…
@Longview: LOL!!!!
HappyDays said…
@Longview: The first blind today on the Blind Gossip website that said the Harkles were planning something big to reinforce their place in the royal family was believable on its own, but it being added to the second blind about Eugenie carrying a surrogate baby with Harry as the sperm donor is far-fetched on its own, but paired with the first blind is most likely a pair of blind items that combine for one big April Fools joke.

BG usually does an April Fools blind item each year

Also, if it was true, Harry would be having a child with a paternal cousin. That could be a genetic mess. The kid could be even more stupid than Harry. Plus they would likely not be able to keep such a scheme a secret.

That’s a pretty good April Fools joke.
@Snippy - I hope it is an April Fool!

Remember the year when she was alleged to have claimed that Wm had screwed her after an evening of intoxication & that she was pregnant by him?

All thoroughly distasteful. I could believe it of her but not of the other parties though.
Maneki Neko said…
@Longview

Interesting BG item but does sound a bit far fetched to me. I doubt Cuz would give up a baby who is genetically hers, albeit to a cousin. As Snippy said, probably an April Fools post.
Henrietta said…
"'I am so inspired by the vision and unwavering dedication of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to create a more united, truthful, safe and equitable world.'"

Can you imagine four words that describe M&H less than "united, truthful, safe and equitable"? I'm surprised Dayani didn't throw "loyal" in there as well.
gfbcpa said…
That is something they do annually...an April Fool's joke. One year I think they even had a blind on April 1 about either PW or PA being the father of Salad's first child.
snarkyatherbest said…
yep i would trust the trotters to pay after a baby was delivered. talk to netflix and spotify. sure hope it’s an april fools joke.
lizzie said…
It's got to be a joke. No way would Eugenie use IVF to try to get pregnant with twins. Period. Not with her history of scoliosis. (She needed a C--section with August.) I don't know if the recent pregnancy stressed her back but carrying twins very well might.

I don't know what she's up to with H&M but not that. I absolutely do not believe it. I also doubt Jack wants a child that is genetically Harry's.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Agree: the joke story for this year.

Not just because of her medical history but because it has holes of how to get the baby declared dead on the UK side and get the living baby to Montecito for that set of expectant parents. Not like they can put it in a pet kennel and schlep it through immigration without raising questions.
Hikari said…
It's got to be a joke. No way would Eugenie use IVF to try to get pregnant with twins. Period. Not with her history of scoliosis. (She needed a C--section with August.) I don't know if the recent pregnancy stressed her back but carrying twins very well might.

That aside . . .there's the supreme ookiness of getting impregnated by her cousin whilst supposedly happily married. What's Jack supposed to do, stand by and watch the insemination procedure?

This is so incredibly gross, even as a joke. It was bad enough when they published that William and she had had a tryst while their spouses were sleeping.

I can appreciate the brazen creativity of the BG writers, but really, they need to refrain from giving Smeg any ideas. The sad, sad thing about her toxic character is I could totally see her cooking up this idea. But it's a long leap from Eugenie having a papped dinner with the odious couple to envisioning her being willing to go along with this. In their circles, as stated, $3 million isn't a terribly huge amount of money. If Euge and Jack were in financial difficulties, they could ask Bea and Edo for help rather than agree to cook Sussex spawn for cash.
gfbcpa said…
I have always believed that the surrogate she used was based in either the United States or Canada. I don't think she used a surrogate based in England because of the surrogacy laws there being much more strict, I believe Archie was born 4 to 6 weeks before the NYC baby shower was held and she used the shower as an excuse to fly to the United States and pick up the baby and fly back to England with him in tow. She probably used the same surrogate or a different one based in Calfornia two years later.
Hikari said…
I bet the Blind Gossip editors chortled particularly hard when they came up with this bit:

Was it a simple family reunion, full of laughter, catching up on family news and enjoying the sight of all their lookalike children running around?

Under this arrangement, any children conceived would be second cousins (I do believe first cousins procreating is generally frowned upon most places in the civilized world nowadays, not that this arrangement would be legally recognized or admitted to), God help the children if they look anything like Haz. Eugenie has got the gene for red hair, of course, but it appears Jack does not. Though if Euge popped out red-headed twins, she could always point to Sarah, as of course, Beatrice got the red hair. But since when are cousins 'lookalikes', necessarily? Unless of course . .what if the result were *identical twins*? It'd be tough to split the babies then and pretend they are only cousins. Which they would be, of course, in addition to being full siblings.

Back in the 1960s, a teenage Patty Duke played 'identical cousins' on her eponymous sitcom, and it was a stupid idea back then, too. If I had a cousin who was identical to me, I'd get her to take a DNA test with me and then we'd sit both sets of parents down for a truth-telling session. Because a significant portion of my cousin's genes should not belong to me and vice-versa.

The funniest part of course is the "all" the "kids" running around. I'd love for her to show her two present children she claims to have running around, yes indeed I would. Lili at 10 months should be crawling now at least, if not cruising and walking by her birthday in June. Yeah, sure.

Hikari said…
You see, Hairy and Salad want another baby. But not for the reasons that most people want a baby.

They want another baby primarily to name it after [Hairy’s father and brother]. That way [Hairy’s father and brother] can never completely cut them out as the child would be their namesake.


I think we are all agreed this is the April Fool's spoof this year, but as I said before, I could see her trying this on, I really could. But if the aim is to have a boy to name Charles William or some variation of this, well, they already "have a firstborn son" (sorry, quotes are inescapable to me when discussion Smeg's "children") who was the likely candidate for such a name. There is NO hint of royal heritage anywhere in "Archie Harrison". Why would naming a thirdborn kid after his royal side be a more potent namesake than naming the firstborn thus would have been? "Archie" is not really a child at all but his "parents'" business brand, which they no doubt came up with prior to their marriage whilst getting baked at Soho House. We all thought that Moonbump Mountbatten-Windsor was going to be a little girl named "Diana", didn't we? Then out pops a boy--surprise! Well, because even with the change to the laws of succession subsequent to the birth of Charlotte, in that system boys are still prized over girls. They will grudgingly make do with a Queen Regnant but males are still preferred, being traditional. No doubt the SixSh*ts thought they could maximize the perks of having a titled Royal baby were the first one a boy.

Whatever . . these two exhaust me.
Girl with a Hat said…
In Trevor Coult's latest video, he says that:

- no one seems interested in Harry's coming book - it's not being placed on shelves the way
it should be for promotional purposes

- Omid Scobie is being investigated for financial irregularities.
Hikari said…
@Elspeth

how to get the baby declared dead on the UK side and get the living baby to Montecito for that set of expectant parents. Not like they can put it in a pet kennel and schlep it through immigration without raising questions.

Indeed. What would have to occur then is that a 'heavily pregnant' Eugenie would have to make a trip to the U.S. and 'give birth prematurely', but secretly, of course, and then go back to England 'to deliver' but she'd already have had the infant so she'd have to wear a fake belly and lay low until 'giving birth' officially in London at some later time. No reputable doctor would allow a woman in her third trimester to make such a long flight, especially not with previous health concerns.

Or would Smeg want to emulate the "Micki and Maude" scenario, in which Dudley Moore impregnates his wife and his mistress and they both go into labor *at the exact same time* at the same hospital and he's got to attend two simultaneous deliveries of two women who don't know about each other? It was a riot as a romantic comedy but doing it real life . .? Logistically impossible.

Kudos to BG for outdoing itself this year but if Eugenie and Smeg suddenly both turn up "pregnant" this year, that's gonna look very suspicious!
lizzie said…
I agree @Hikari the Patty Duke Show was kind of silly. But it was the 1960s and just having one person play two roles and be on screen for both roles at the same time was kind of cutting edge then. And while they still wouldn't have had identical kids, Patty and Cathy's fathers were supposed to be identical twins.

Identical twins are much more common after IVF than after natural conception though. That happening would put a crimp in the (joke) Eugenie plan.
snarkyatherbest said…
FlyingWig warning issued for montecito. according to daily mail Tom Cruise arranged a prescreening of his new Top Gun movie for the Cambridges, several other members of the royal family and trusted friends if only someone just had to make a mess of it and huff and puff her way to California. a few musty old churches at times but heck you too could have been sitting with Tom Cruise. Ha Hollywood royalty loves the real royalty. ouch. that burns 😉
OKay said…
Hikari said...

Kudos to BG for outdoing itself this year but if Eugenie and Smeg suddenly both turn up "pregnant" this year, that's gonna look very suspicious!

Considering about whom we're speaking, I would not deem it impossible. Improbable, but not impossible.
@Hikari-

In the Uk, those of us with ancestry here going back for centuries are a darn'sight more closely related than you'd ever imagine.

If I got on a well-filled bus in the area my father came from, I'd be related to a significant proportion of the other passengers - at least according to mathematical probability. I saw someone on national TV once with the same surname, from the city his grandmother came from, who was so like my father I couldn't believe it.

Yet when I checked him out (I'm the family historian) I got back over 200 years and still couldn't find the link. My husband came from a town in Scotland where his surname was quite common but I can see the family resemblance in bearers of the name who spell it differently and simply come from somewhere else in the Central Valley.

First cousin marriages are seldom a problem but it's as well to check for lest either partner carries something like the cystic fibrosis gene. The real difficulty may be when there has been first cousin marriage repeatedly, for generation after generation, which is practised in some cultures here, done to keep the money in the family. (No names mentioned).

The Royals aren't that closely bred - Elizabeth & Philip were often described as `first' cousins but they are not. They are/were both gt-gt-grandchildren of Victoria so were 3rd cousins - a very different matter. Do you know who all your 3rd or 4th cousins are? I certainly don't know who mine are.
Rebecca said…
If it turns out to be true that * and Ginger Nuts will ask Kate to be godmother to Lilibucks I hope to God she will not accept. She’d be the target of enraged Sussex fans for sure, but better that than having that stinky albatross around her neck for the rest of her life. I do worry that like the Queen, though (with Andrew), she might let her Christian faith influence her decision, and say yes.

I still can’t shake the nausea-inducing image of Andrew walking the Queen to her seat at Prince Philip’s memorial service. Both Dan Wootton and Jan Moir wrote excellent opinion pieces on PA’s shameful exploitation of his mother’s affection for him, and I hope Charles and William will show some backbone and see to it that he is well and truly banished from this point forward. If not William should make plans for a career change.

Hikari said…
@Wild Boar,

I don’t know all my distant cousins, no. My parents have 5 siblings between them and if I do the maths right, I have 13 first cousins. We were not a close extended family at all and I’ve not even met half of these people.

It’s news to me that first-cousin marriages are still permissible anywhere, though I understand the reasons they occurred in the past. I’m sure marrying a distant cousin is pretty common in more insulated communities. But for first cousins who grew up together to become sexually involved is bordering on incest to me. To my mind, it’d be far less shameful for Eugenie to become a prostitute—high end, of course—than to agree to be impregnated by her moronic cousin and then sell her baby to the moron’s sociopathic wife. Becoming a courtesan would leave her with more dignity.

Thank God it’s just an April Fool’s jolly. Though I can’t say as I find it very funny at all. First the intersex rumours, now this. Her notoriety is complete.

Magatha Mistie said…

Saturday Singalong 🎤
Apologies: The Eagles
Desperado

Desperate Measures

Desperadoes, why don’t you
stop burning bridges
Your lies and your grudges
come home to roost now
Oh so tiresome
We know that your reason
About being in season
Doesn’t add up somehow

Nosferatu, you ain’t getting younger
Your greed and your hunger
Sees you left home alone
And freedom, from Kingdom
All just bull talking, Royalty stalking
Left with nothing to own…

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Yes, growing up I seemed to be related
to half my home town!
What fascinates me,
the dialects, almost lost.
Grandad, different dialect to Grandma,
from the same place but…
‘enry ‘iggins would’ve had a field day!


Magatha Mistie said…

Vainglorious

She has to be worried
Megxit rather hurried
Not what she really wanted
All her dreams and schemes
Let down by fake themes
Laughing stock,
debased, and much vaunted

Hikari said…
@Magatha,

I truly lost it at “Nosferatu, you ain’t gettin younger”. 🤣🤣🤣

I have a serious proposition which I hope you will consider. Over these last few years, you have brightened our landscape with your brilliant riffs on the Harkle Debacle in verse. You have a brilliant knack for this art form. By now there are hundreds of these. I know you’ve said that you don’t save them anywhere, but they are still here in the archives. Would you consider doing a #70 by 70 Retrospective of your top ones in honor of the Queens Jubilee? I see they have just launched a project in photographs of her Majesty’s reign for this initiative.

Giving her blessing to the Harkle’s marriage Will certainly not prove to be one of ERs best regal decisions, but we’re here would like to participate in her Jubilee year in our own special way. As our unofficial poet laureate, which I now declare to be “official”!, Will you consider trotting out your greatest hits for this once in a lifetime occasion?

Long live her Majesty, God save the Queen. Each one of your pithy and devastating takedowns of the toxic clods may ward off the bad juju.
@Hikari,

I had a friend whose parents married their first cousin. It’s legal in the UK. You are generally advised to make sure there’s no hereditary health issues. I wouldn’t say it’s common for first cousins to marry, but certainly not unheard of. 😃
SwampWoman said…
Good morning (or good whatever it is wherever you are whenever you read it);-]

Good gracious, I have to go busily attend to business for a couple days and come back to read in the a.m. (after a late night of traveling and being too tired to sleep) that Beatrice is allegedly in negotiations about renting her uterus to the Ginger Nuts so that their children could be womb mates. Did I really read that, or was that a side effect of the mushrooms in my ketogenic coffee creamer? (Staring suspiciously at coffee.)

Now that I think about it, there is probably not much difference between reading the press about the Pretenders while under the influence of various substances than when not under the influence.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

You'd be surprised at the number of countries that allow first cousin marriage. It is legal in the UK, among other countries, and is widely practised by certain ethnic minorities. Consanguinity is the cause of many genetic disorders and of course the state, aka the taxpayer, has to pick up the tab...

@Magatha

Good to see you again. Nosferatu!🤣 The name is apt. Vainglorious sums up what * has become.
The most recent Lady C video is the very best to date. Lady C got to speak with a royal in attendance at Prince Philip’s memorial service. We’re trying to work out whom Lady C could’ve spoken to, we think it was either Princess Anne or Sofie. Anyhow, the royal goes into specific detail about Maggot’s persona etc and why neither her or Mole attended the memorial. What the royal said, backs up what so many have said over the years; we are dealing with a true sociopath who will stop at nothing. 😟

Royal REVEALS why MEGHAN &HARRY shunned PHILIP's MEMORIAL/ REVENGE/CRITICISMS&SUPPORT4QUEEN/DireTimes

https://youtu.be/ZWObtvQRyMM
OCGal said…
@SwampWoman, to put your mushroom-addled mind at ease, the uterus-rental story was a Blind Gossip April Fool’s joke (we hope!). The website annually, on the 1st of April, sneaks in a zinger that is at first pretty plausible, but shocking, and only after awhile of turning it over in one’s mind does one realize that it simply must be a joke.

This Blind Gossip item was cryptically referring to Eugenie and Jack needing money and this outlandish agreement is the reason the Suxx*ts and they met up recently in Montecito, and made sure the paps saw them being all chummy at dinner.

Although I say the Blind Gossip tale is outlandish and meant to be delightful fun, the more I mull this over, and knowing #6 & #666’s thirst for unlimited wealth and their unflinching proven ability to do anything to get it, I now fear they will somehow entwine Eugenie and Jack in their nefarious schemes, and force a Royal Family mega-payment-for-silence and to drop the scheme.

Ughhh, I feel distaste in my mouth and mind that the Monte$h*t$how duo have successfully pulled so many implausible stunts, that there is a slight possibility they really did propose this reprehensible scheme to Eugenie and Jack. I would put nothing past them.
The Cat's Meow said…
Love @Hikari's idea!

I absolutely vote for a @Magatha Jubilee celebratory retrospective.
Fifi LaRue said…
@WBBM: In the US there is an on-line company that does DNA testing. DNA goes in, results come out. People who participate can set up family trees. I have 4th and 5th cousins, but don't know any of them, except for one.

@Magatha: Nosferatu! LOL!

The old bag will become heavily pregnant several more times, and/or more miscarriages.
OCGal said…
@Hikari and @Magatha,

I agree with Hikari who asks our poet-laureate Magatha to do a #70 by 70 retrospective of her best works in honor of HM the Queen’s Jubilee.

Prince William rolled out the Earthshot Prize and related gorgeous book. He might like to do the related project of Magatha’s work as “Mirthshot” Prize and related book. In my dreams it could happen, couldn’t it?
SwampWoman said…
I'm applauding the idea of the Magatha Collection for the Jubilee celebration!

Sandie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

Thanks for the recommendation re. Lady C's latest video. It is most interesting. The biggest eye opener for me is that the royal family seem to be aware that they are dealing with a dangerous toxic malignant grandiose narc who will never change and will never stop attacking. Also interesting (but fits perfectly with her narcissism) is that she will never forgive and always hold a grudge against Philip and the Queen.

I wonder if any of them think that they can get back the husband, who, despite his faults and difficult behaviour, was a beloved son, brother, grandson ... The Queen epitomizes the concept of Christian forgiveness and tolerance, but I am not sure about the rest of the family.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

the best line from Lady C's video where she revealed what the royal said to her is:

"Meghan is the most dictatorial person I have ever met and I've met real dictators who ran countries."
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie - you can forgive but not forget and it doesnt mean you have to go back to the relationship you had before (or so said one of my Jesuit profs)

Magatha - Great prose!!!

Girl with the hat/raspberry ruffle - yes but shes the least successful because all she conquered was a questionable spare with no country to run. Shes a failure in that regard!!

Althought the blind gossips does make you wonder if there were some business propositions with E and the Trotters. Could they pay E and her husband to be in the their reality clips or any part of netflix filming. Will E be the first guest on the spotify cast (and when is that suppose to drop again? crickets?) Trying to lay into Jack's contacts with the Clooney's and now owner Diageo? Will be interesting to see if there is anything else.

I guess the next up we have is invictus. Trotters wife has to do something.
Lady C's informant could have been any one of a number of European royal families who are related.
@Sandie and GWAH,

I’m still absorbing the video! Not that I’m in anyway surprised, but just hearing it said by individuals who’ve had to endure her and him.

I’m relieved that the royal family are truly aware of what type of persona they are dealing with ie Maggot. As truly atrocious Maggot is, Mole trumps her because it’s his family and country that’s the target of their actions and words. He’s backing her up and allowing it. 😖

There are so many great lines…too many! The most frightening one was where Maggot believes she’s superior to everyone, no-one is safe around someone like that. The worst thing the pair did was to deliberately time the Oprah interview in full knowledge Philip was dying. So, so wicked and evil! 😔

She’s a dictatorial egomaniac, and I agree with the person that said the royal family should sue for libel. 😒
snarkyatherbest said…
interesting. so Sarah F posted a long list written on the 40th anniversary of the Faukland war. andrew wrote it. a pretty good piece. only signed it HRH Duke of York. post has been pulled. 1) he was suppose to be off social media 2) wasn’t supposed to use HRH. the interesting thing is that he agreed no social media. other than archwell are the trotters publicly in social media. no. another thing that suggested kicked out not bowed out andrew - at least if you post it just sign it A. a little humility would be helpful but like trotters wife he just can’t help himself.
@WBBM,

Re Lady C’s informant

Lady C said it could be one of a hundred. There were several European royals there. She made it clear that she didn’t want to give away who the informant was, which is obviously very understandable (she needs protect the source for a variety of reasons). It’s a royal who’s had close contact with the family or the rest of the family, and the pair. Put another way, can we believe that for example the Swedish or the Spanish royals are clued in to Maggot and Mole’s behaviour? I don’t think a distant family would be so knowledgeable or could be so emotionally evocative? I think Lady C understandably and deliberately threw a red herring in there to throw the listener off target. 🥴


@Sandie,

The royal family would be totally foolish to forgive Mole, he’s as bad as his uncle David, just in a different way. He deserves permanent exile. 😒
Girl with a Hat said…
@Snarky, I doubt that Prince Andrew is doing his own posts on Instagram. I am never surprised to find how technologically illiterate most people are let alone spoiled, entitled Princes of the realm.
Mel said…
A perfect article about the Harkles. Coherently spits out everything we've ever said about them.

If they do bring the children, the Body Language Guy, HG Tudor, and the public will have a field day pointing out discrepancies between past photos and the children who are presented to the public.

https://globalnewsink.com/prince-harry-and-toilet-deodorizer-promoter-meghan-markle-will-not-be-attending-the-queens-jubilee/
DesignDoctor said…
I agree Magatha should do a 70 X70 publications of her brilliant writing for the Jubilee!
DesignDoctor said…
@GWAH
Working in IT, I am always astounded at how much people don't know about tech. Especially people of PA's age bracket.
Fifi LaRue said…
The top commenter on Lady C's latest video suggested that Haznoballs was so mentally impaired he needs a conservator to handle his affairs. The commenter also remarked that the RF could destroy Evil Dictator easily with information drops about her actual behavior, past lifestyle choices, etc. IMO everyone is on their best behavior while the Queen still draws breath. Everyone is being respectful of her from the family, to family friends, anyone else who's had to deal with Trotter. Once HMTQ is gone, I think things will change, and change fast for the vile viper. The gloves will be off.
Meowwww said…
Bizarre Twitter battle today. I follow many sugar and many Cambridge fans. They are going all out today posting pics….Catherine pics are rebutted with TW pics. So strange.
Ralph L said…
The Queen and Philip were also 3rd cousins on the Danish side.

a teenage Patty Duke played 'identical cousins'

Now Cathy adores a minuet
The Ballet Russe and Crepe Suzette
But Patty likes to rock 'n roll
A hot dog makes her lose control
What a crazy pair!

I've always wondered about that hot dog part.
Sandie said…
If anyone wants to venture into the frightening fascism of the dastardly duo:

https://botsentinel.com/trackers/hate-tracker?tracker=1

It is the list of accounts that they have shut down via Bouzy. In his feed, he lists more accounts, including YouTube accounts, that he is now targeting.

Fifi LaRue said…
@Mel: Thanks for the link to globalnewsinc. Very interesting and entertaining. There's a photo of someone we can assume is Doria's mother. 100% white. So Trotter's got to be about 10 - 20% black. She sure started out life homely. Homely in the US has a much different meaning than in the UK.
Maneki Neko said…
OT

Diana statue

We went for a walk around Kensington Gardens and saw the statue in the Sunken Garden. It's a bit underwhelming and doesn't do Diana justice, IMHO. It seems a little big bigger than life size but I thought it would have looked bigger, more imposing. There is no public access to the Sunken Garden but you can walk around it. The closer you can get to it is about 5 metres away but then you see it from the back, which is rather pointless as hubby said. When you're on the opposite side it's a bit far to see it properly. The garden itself is pretty and tranquil.
Sandie said…
Maybe off topic, but the ignorant media and commentators have no understanding of the Commonwealth and have whipped up a frenzy over nothing.

Of the 54 countries in the Commonwealth, only 14 have the British monarch as their head of state (a ceremonial role). India, Pakistan and all countries in Africa, plus many others, do not have the British monarch as head of state. As an African, I find it bizarre that the Queen should be head of state for those 14 countries and wonder why it is considered such a calamity for any of those 14 countries to do what African countries, India, Pakistan, etc. did over 50 years ago - chose to be fully independent and be part of the Commonwealth as fully independent and sovereign countries.

I have tried to think of a common thread but have discerned at least two commonalities that may explain this:

Countries where immigrants (mostly British) are in control and not the indigenous people: Such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

Countries mostly populated by former slaves: Such as Jamaica.

Note this is a cursory analysis and anomalies that spring to mind are USA (the settlers booted out the British and built their own empire), Papua New Guinea (indigenous inhabitants but a Commonwealth realm).

Why on earth would anyone in the royal family be offended or feel diminished in any way if the remaining Commonwealth realms catch up with the majority of countries in the Commonwealth, many decades late, and choose to become a republic without the British monarch as head of state? Pakistan and India get as many high-profile royal tours as Australia and Canada, and they have equal standing in the Commonwealth.

My view of the dastardly duo is that ignorance is their friend, indifference is twisted to demonstrate support, celebrity culture is a perfect setting, and fascism works very nicely on those who choose to think and speak up, on any platform. Personally, despite the deluge of propaganda disguised as PR, I think most Americans do not think they are important enough to pay any attention to other than for occasional entertainment. This results in a lack of the criticism they get in the UK (Brits are understandably angry about how they were conned), which is interpreted as popularity. I do hope our dear Duchess does try for political office - she will soon find out what Americans really think of her.
Ralph L said…
Section 9. Clause 8. No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

So she'd have to give up the duchess and Princess Henry titles to run for federal (and probably state) office in the US. If they were automatic due to her marriage, does that mean she has to divorce, too? I doubt this has ever been litigated in court.
lizzie said…
#Ralph L wrote about the Nobility clause...I don't think that's what that clause means. I think it means while holding federal office, a person cannot accept a title without permission from Congress. ("No person holding any office....") That is to prevent divided loyalties and corruption while in office. In reality, to have any chance of winning any office she'd likely have to stop using her title but I do not think she'd have to give it up. Now Harry would have to in order to take the oath if he wanted to become a naturalized citizen of the US. I don't think he wants to do that. But if he did, her title would be gone too since it's a courtesy title.
Ian's Girl said…
Recessive genes around medical issues are the only problem with first cousin marriages.

I mean, aside from the yuck factor, I get that, but we are mammals, after all, and many mammals mate with their parents and siblings with no ill affect.

My father has 10 siblings, my mom 13; I have 81 first cousins on one side, 114 on the other ( why yes, we're hillbillies, however did you guess?!) and I wouldn't swap body fluids with any of them, but red hair, left handedness and blue eyes are likely the only issues that would arise, and I have all three myself, so it's possible any children I had would have one or all three traits anyway. Only one of my many brothers have blue eyes, 2 are left handed and none are red heads, so it's a crapshoot at best.

I would LOVE a Magatha 70 for 70, and would even chip in to have it bound!

I have no issue whatsoever with PA escorting his mother, and fail to see how anyone could. ( I respect their opinion, just saying I don't see what the problem is)

I believe Lady C's source(s) are well placed, but do not believe it is any of the immediate Royal Family. I absolutely believe it's someone very close to them, though, who has been given the tacit approval to leak.

Are the Ladies-in-Waiting type staff privy to day-to-day life things like this? I just don't see Ann or Sophie ringing up a youtuber, of the nobility or otherwise, to spill tea, although I suppose Ann might be more likely to have been at events where she'd have met actual dictators. Are any of the Argylls close to anyone in the RF?
Sandie said…
https://thetig.meghanpedia.com/how-to-be-both/

Blast from the past ... A Tig post 5 months after she met her Prince. Interesting to see the persona she used at the time, and how, since then, events have shown that it is a load of grandiose nonsense.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-6.4800055/page-492

National Enquirer article copied and pasted in the link above. Hilarious! Why do they always sue the British media, especially DM, but ignore American media? Is it because it is easier to sue in the UK and they believe being royal gives then an advantage in British courts?

Finally, Elon Musk has acquired a majority stake in Twitter after expressing his unhappiness with the suppression of free speech and conducting a poll. Are the days of the fascist Duchess shutting people down through her minions coming to an end?
Sandie said…
Apologies ... largest stake, not majority stake. Musk is now the biggest shareholder by far.
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Finally, Elon Musk has acquired a majority stake in Twitter after expressing his unhappiness with the suppression of free speech and conducting a poll. Are the days of the fascist Duchess shutting people down through her minions coming to an end?

Apologies ... largest stake, not majority stake. Musk is now the biggest shareholder by far.


Heh. I know this is off topic, but I've read that Elon Musk was really aggravated by Twitter banning Babylon Bee, a satirical news site (which is really funny, and the even funnier thing is how many leftists thought that it was 'real' news). I'd be extremely surprised if Mr. Musk doesn't have enough votes under control (friends that have quietly bought up shares) to have controlling interest. I also would not be at all surprised if gamers would jump in buying up stock. They (gamers) would be eager to back Mr. Musk's play.

Would it interfere with the fascist royals? Probably not. Running out of money to pay minions would be the quickest way to shut them down.

World events, etc. etc. always conspire against them.
Svetlana said…
@sandie

you might have warned that Tig post was vomit inducing. I’d just eaten my breakfast.

Im almost embarrassed for her. One more thing, not only does she not explain the frickin dishsoap letter was a CLASS ASSIGNMENT she can’t even concede it was an ASSIGNMENT. I loathe this woman and the self-obsessed treacle that comes out of her mouth.
snarkyatherbest said…
swamp woman. would be interesting if Musk has Cathy Woods on his side. she’s a big tech investor and until this year her Ark funds have done phenomenally. most of the other large shareholders are BlackRock (founders of ESG initiatives) and Vanguard. all held in mutual funds so they may not play ball with Musk but it will be intriguing as what he may push about banning and shadow banning. and it’s ironic since he is still under SEC orders about tweeting at least about Tesla after his infamous buy out tweet while on recreational drugs. that being said and bringing it back to theTrotters it may be harder to ban people like Murky Meg and Yankee Wally and for that we will all be grateful.

as for the trotters. must be hurting financially because we don’t have the daily PR. are they truly going to wait til invictus which is a few weeks away. and what schemes are they planning for the June Jubilee celebrations.

also not sure if someone caught it but more info is coming out about funds from a dubious character given to prince andrew. in the guardian article they noted the turkish businessman transferred £25,000 to Princess Eugenie’s bank account. her response. she didn’t know who the giver was. yeah happens to me all the time 😉the over £750,000 for Beatrice’s wedding didn’t go through her so her denial will hold up. but geez between andrew and fergie just how much money scandals can you have? kinda make Montecito look like amateur hour and interesting all this is coming out now. maybe Charles ans William are getting tired of Andrew’s antics and are showing they will put out drips of info if you don’t play ball. a good reminder to the Trotters

Mel said…
Yeah, I saw that someone put $25k into my bank account.
No idea who it was. Oh well.
Think I'll just spend it someplace.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2022/04/blind-item-11_5.html#disqus_thread

Blind Item #11
I very highly doubt she will accept the offer, but one of the shopping channels is trying to make a deal with the alliterate one.
SwampWoman said…

Blogger Mel said...
Yeah, I saw that someone put $25k into my bank account.
No idea who it was. Oh well.
Think I'll just spend it someplace.


Wait, what? What do you mean it was a mistake and I have to pay it back? (grin) I'm all upset because MY banks will not let anonymous people deposit money in my account. If random people want to give me money, I think they should be able to.

SwampWoman said…
To be fair, maybe lots of people put $25,000 (or I suppose it is 25,000 Euros or pounds) into Princess accounts for their wedding present. $25,000 in whatever denomination for them might be like $100 to somebody like me.
Ralph L said…
In the US, you can give $10,000/yr to someone without paying gift tax and without them paying federal income tax. (I think that's still correct). Anyone know what British rules are?
Elsbeth1847 said…
Umm but if you are in public office (at least federal level), things can roll a little differently in that you have to report any gift above a certain price (maybe like only $400 but it has been years since someone casually mentioned it about a wedding gift) to avoid the appearance of ... impropriety. It's not saying that you cannot accept expensive gifts maybe but it is about recording who gave what and when which is important.

I would guess that there could easily be something similar for state and local governments. Good question Ralph. What kinds of rules are there in the UK for politicians and the BRF?
Rebecca said…
Oh dear God she’s back:

Now Meghan tries to trademark the word 'archetypes': Duchess bids to stop anyone else using the word -which first appeared in the English language 470 years ago - after deciding to use it for the title of her Spotify podcast

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689601/Now-Meghan-tries-trademark-word-archetypes.html
snarkyatherbest said…
Ralph L. not sure about UK but in the US all deposits over $10,000 require a special report to the government and the funds are held up for several days. the banking laws were to make it harder to money launder although there are creative ways to get around that so i am told.
SwampWoman said…
Ralph L., I believe it is $16,000 gift per person this year.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Rebecca: It's a fruitless battle, and Trotter knows it. It is merely to gain attention for her podcast. It's PR. Haznoballs is paying for that PR? Just goes to prove that her podcast is going to be empty words, empty content, and BORING. It's a pathetic, desperate move on Trotter's part.
gfbcpa said…
Adam Neumann, the founder of WeWork, tried to do the same thing with the word "We".

(You just can't make this stuff up.)
lizzie said…
@snarkyatherbest, I think that's right, its now $16K in the US. The recipient generally owes no tax no matter what except on the amount generated by the gift (like interest, for example, if its invested but the gift itself usually does not count as income for tax purposes.) I don't know about UK rules. But in the US the giver pays the gift tax, not the recipient unless a special arrangement is made.
Maneki Neko said…
@Rebecca

I've just seen the article about the witch trying to patent the word Archetypes and was going to post when I saw your post. Unbelievable! Her delusions know no bounds. Next she'll patent her name (M....n) and no one else will be able to be called the same!

TBW 'will speak to historians, experts and woman who have experienced being typecast.' Is 'woman' a typo or does this mean she'll interview herself and no one else?? Anyway, we know she will mention herself in all these podcasts.
Then she asks 'But where do these stereotypes come from?'
These three words (archetypes etc) are not interchangeable.

Maneki Neko said…
And let's not forget Jung's archetypes, plus the 12 literary archetypes. I hope *'s application will be rejected outright.
In the UK, it's £3000 under certain circumstances eg wedding presents. I've never had to go into this in any depth gone.

Trademarking: a certain supermarket chain in the UK, focussed originally on frozen food, attempted to trademark its brand name - Iceland (Ice-Land - geddit?). It was opposed of course by the country of that name and the supermarket lost. At one point, it was Icelandic owned - I've lost track of it now but did find a branch in Akureyri a few years ago. So, that's another pointless lawsuit for her.

She might be able to trademark a particular graphic presentation I suppose - `ArcheTypes' I suppose. What next - Archeology?

As for ‘labels that try to hold women back’ , how about `Stupid Cow'?
Sandie said…
Wow!

She just keeps repeating the same behaviour: Grandiose ideas with no depth or substance; borrowed ideas, which she then copyrights/trademarks; getting attention with announcements; no actual delivery; ignoring failures and blaming others.

She misunderstands the term archetypes. She is stuck in the last century in her portrayal of women as victims. She holds grudges, formed from her self-absorbed narcissism, and her actions are completely warped by her consuming desire to destroy those who 'slighted her'.

Just my opinion (except the bit about not understanding archetypes)!

TheresaLongo has some interesting information on the memoir. I will share the link when I am back on a device where I can copy and paste links.
Girl with a Hat said…
I read that she and Hairy were going to present a virtual award for some Canadian awards show. No more info apart from that. It's in the CDAN thread that I posted above.
Fifi LaRue said…
What do you all strive for? What are your goals? To get the animals fed, and make sure they're healthy?; to get something created?; to nurture your children?; to be healthy?; to advance your education?

Trotter's goal is to get her name in the paper everyday.

There was a story that Trotter spent about a year in the UK chasing after men, looking for a husband. She had no luck. That's because there's nothing inside her. No intelligent conversation, no wit, no charm, no considered opinions, no discussion of books read, no interesting stories of her travels, no personal achievements, no interest in other people, no talk about her creative endeavors. Nothing. All she was able to put out was the sex kitten look. She hooked exactly one person, the village idiot, with a drinking/drug problem.
Sandie said…
https://theresalongofanpagerome.blogspot.com/2022/04/more-on-upcoming-memoirs.html

More on Upcoming Memoirs
Harry entered the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst May 8 2005 somewhat against his will. He was not interested in the stifling discipline and utter control the Institution continued to impart upon him, according to him. In April 2006, Harry completed officer training and was commissioned as a Cornet (second lieutenant) in the Blues and Royals, a regiment of the Household Cavalry in the British Army.

The army stint was their last ditch effort to rehabilitate and fortify his strength and character but Harry writes that this effectively was their way of casting him out (not the first time) rather than respond to his needs with a warmer embrace. The literary work will call for a breakdown of barriers around closeness and touch. Founding Invictus games and stepping into his career as a working Royal was certainly a time of pride as it seemed Harry finally found his philanthropic footing but he will divulge: it still wasn't roses as a Working Royal. Again this coincides with the theme we outlined for you before: Markle will be set as the catalyst and cast as his partner in crime, rather than an instigator.
Sandie said…
@WBBM: As for ‘labels that try to hold women back’ , how about `Stupid Cow'?

Definitely chuckle of the day! But, the comment echoes what I have come to realize about our dear Duchess: she is as thick as two planks, two two extra-thick planks
Sandie said…
By the way, Spotify already have a few podcasts about archetypes, one of which is entitled simply 'Archetypes'.
snarkyatherbest said…
lizzie my point was more that banking laws require reporting of transactions over $10,000 the Biden administration wants $400 bank transactions reported to the Treasury and IRS regardless of if it’s claimed on taxes the guise of the law is to catch money laundering hard to suddenly get a $10,000 deposit without more info on who deposited and for what reasons. gift taxes an different thing. just wanted to clarify my angle on this.





snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie. saw the Theresa Longo comment online. the word salad does make the case someone who is good at word salad is editing the memoirs, as we suspected. it will give us a good insight into how she spin things to him to justify further distance from the family. it’s almost like revealing a big part of her playbook. maybe not the smartest move on Trotters’s part
Sandie said…
https://uspto.report/Search/Archetype

Ok, I'll give her some leeway on the dastardly ignorant use of the term archetype because the word has already been misused and shallowly exploited many dozens of times.

But I am not going to give her a free pass on her dated victim view of women. Of course some men stereotype and victimize women, as do the media, just as some woman do the same to men. People are complex, society is complex ... and never in human history have we had such easy access to so much information, disinformation, opinions, propaganda, entertainment, tools ... Gossip, manipulation, censorship, fake stories, bias, etc are not new, but having the access to so much means we can far more easily be fully informed and develop personal strengths that we need to navigate this new world, as long as we protect freedoms such as free speech... Just my opinion.
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/barkjack_

Their Twitter account is back up, but difficult to view without a Twitter account.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Agree with above.

The whole idea that it is just labels holding people back and that if we only know the name of the label like that will be enough to turn things around.


Think about mainstream USA with the big pushes for STEM. This is about really educating people about how keep women interested in those fields because so many women have already made the hard earned gains already - the path is now more of a sidewalk.

With kids having smart phones, being in a rinkydink one stop light town now can read/be influenced by the world outside the town (meaning you don't have to drop out or get married when you are young). You can hear about people being on The Voice or ACT or people who aren't rich or famous getting a cable show if they are willing to put in work. That stuff trickles down even if the family doesn't like it.

So where is this happening exactly that we need to educate people?


But you know what I find really funny about the whole pitch about labels combined with the word women? that she embodies the fairy tale ending of marry the prince and you can have the big house, kids, lots and lots of fancy clothes and have you your picture in the paper all the time.

Elsbeth1847 said…
arg should be AGT not act

According to to a report on Yahoo news, a poll shows a significant no. of UK citizens wd prefer Wm as next king.

Haven't looked into it as am sahttered from tryig to complete an arachaeoldy paper - I'll kleave thetypos so youcan se the state I'm in..
Rebecca said…
Today it’s also being widely reported that * has officially ended her patronage of Mayhew animal rescue. Another encouraging sign that perhaps she will never return to the UK?

Some good pithy comments about her attempt to trademark Archetype in the London Times. One suggested that instead of naming her faux feminist podcast after her male progeny she should call it Lili-pod. Another stated their intent to get a trademark for the word Sussex to prevent her and Ginger Nuts from using it.
snarkyatherbest said…
i like lilipod you can leap from one podcast to the next. it sounds like a happy little frog. archetype sounds like archenemy. much darker and aggressive. trotter missed on this one, again

WBBM. - love the typos (which started as tupos) i have no such excuses. just fat old fingers and until recently a tiny old phone
Maneki Neko said…
Now the insufferable * has ended her patronage with the animal charity Mayhew. I wasn't aware she was still their patron. She was never interested, except for a few photo opportunities.

The DM article publishes her letter to Mayhew as well as some 'nuggets' illustrating a 'host of causes for women's rights on their Archewell site' such as CELEBRATE with TREATS from a BAKERY GIVING WOMEN a SECOND CHANCE. Translation? And making everything about women doesn't make her a feminist.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10692931/Prince-Harry-Meghan-break-silence-Prince-Philips-memorial.html
Girl with a Hat said…
https://dlisted.com/2022/04/06/meghan-markle-has-filed-to-trademark-the-name-of-her-podcast-archetypes/#comments

dlisted has a thread about * trying to trademark the word "archetype".
Sandie said…
Definitions:

archetype
noun
1.
a very typical example of a certain person or thing.
"he was the archetype of the old-style football club chairman"
2.
PSYCHOANALYSIS
(in Jungian theory) a primitive mental image inherited from the earliest human ancestors, and supposed to be present in the collective unconscious.

stereotype
noun
1.
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
"the stereotype of the woman as the carer"
Similar:
standard/conventional image
received idea
cliché
hackneyed idea
formula
a person or thing that conforms to a widely held but oversimplified image of the class or type to which they belong.
"don't treat anyone as a stereotype"
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She has confused the two terms, hasn't she?

As I said in previous posts, she is not the first to do so because the word has been registered as a trademark by numerous people who also do not seem to understand what the term means. She will distinguish it from other trademarks using the same term with the use of a specific typeface and a specific context (hence she will run into trouble if she submits a wishlist of how she will use this trademark and ticks off everything but the kitchen sink .. as I assume she will be asked to provide proof that she will actually produce something more than a few podcasts using this trademark).
Ralph L said…
The DM has a wonderful MM photo spread that I'm sure you all will want to enjoy. Strangely, there are no comments yet.

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